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Laredo & Webb County Area Metropolitan Policy Organization Committee Mtg 031521
A
Oh
okay,
good
yeah,
we'll
start
at
1,
30.,
yeah.
Okay,
I'm
calling
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
the
the
laredo
and
webb
county
area
metropolitan
planning
organization,
the
otherwise
known
as
the
npo
today
is
march,
the
15th
and
it's
at
1
30
p.m,
and
we're
meeting
virtually
some
of
us
here
at
city
hall,
others
at
their
respective
places
of
work
and
and
where
the
red
so
moving
forward.
I
don't
yeah.
A
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Moving
on
forward
welcome,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
joining
us.
Moving
on
to
citizens
comments.
We
do
have
a
some
protocols
here,
yeah
anyone
wishing
to
make
a
comic
and
dial
956,
794,
1623
and
and
we'll
get
to
your
comment.
Currently,
we
don't
have
anyone
that
has
called
mr
kirby.
A
D
A
A
You
opposed
same
sign
raise
show
hands
of
your
object.
None
see
not
heard
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
discussion
with
possible
action
on
the
formation
of
a
freight
and
logistics
committee
as
a
subcommittee
of
the
mpo
similar
to
the
technical
committee,
an
active
transportation
committee
and
any
matters
related
there
too.
A
If
you
all
recall,
I'm
not
quite
sure
whether
at
the
last
meeting
or
at
the
workshop
that
we
had
this
this,
this
item
came
up.
It
appears
that
we
do
have
a
you
know,
a
lot
of
interests,
at
least
that
people
have
called
me
that
they
wanted
to
see
this
again
here.
I
do
want
to
just
mention
to
the
group
that
city
council
separately,
you
know
also
would
want
to
consider
something
similar
to
this.
I
think
it's
it's
needed,
be
it
in
both
places
or
one
place.
A
The
last
week
we
I
joined
a
meeting,
a
txdot
meeting
and
what
was
impressive
that
I
saw
was
the
the
el
paso
group.
Apparently
they
do
have
a
steering
committee
with
members
of
both
mexico
with
the
juarez
area
and
the
el
paso
area,
and
they
meet
regularly.
You
know
to
to
discuss
all
sorts
of
transportation
issues,
infrastructure
and
whatever
applies
to
new
to
the
ports
of
entry
and
we're
not
parts
of
entry,
but
more
so
on
the
transportation
side.
A
So,
and
just
by
way
of
history
too
about
two
three
years
ago,
we
we
tried
doing
that
at
least
city
council
and
myself
and
others
by
just
by
giving
away
history
and
not
intending
anything
on
the
negative.
It
didn't
quite
got
us
there
because,
as
you
can
tell
and
and
some
of
us
that
are
involved
in
in
the
this
business,
so
to
speak,
a
government
and
private
business,
we
have
a
group
from
atamalipas
and
we
have
a
group
from
novolion
and
somewhere.
A
Somehow
you
know
we
couldn't
get.
You
know
above
all
of
that.
So
so
I
don't
know
I
mean
hopefully
this
time
we
can,
because
we
need
both
noel
leon
and
antama
lipa's
members.
If
that's
where
we
want
to
go
to
include
our
counterparts
in
mexico,
which
which
I
would
encourage,
I
think
we
need
to
hear
from
him
because
we're
all
one
one
region,
one
community.
A
H
B
This
is
kirby
snyderman,
the
npo
director
here,
that's
a
great
segue.
That
question
is
a
great
segue,
because
that
purpose
is
not
very
defined
at
this
moment
and
what,
as
staff,
what
we
would
ask
is
that
you
allow
us
to
complete
the
freight
logistics
infrastructure
plan
that
we're
going
to
be
starting
here
very
soon
and
I'll
be
going
over
with
you
later
in
the
agenda
about
the
different
plans,
we're
going
to
be
engaged
in
and
that
will
then
give
that
will
give
a
purpose
to
the
committee.
B
It
will
give
them
content
to
meet
on
a
direction
of
what
to
do
when
they
do
meet.
How
often
they're
going
to
be
what
what
subjects
they're
going
to
tackle.
What
I'm
a
little
worried
about
with
the
cities
committee
is
that
it's
okay
to
form
a
committee
on
an
idea
or
a
subject
to
meet
on,
but
then
once
they
meet.
What
are
they
talking
about?
What
are
they
discussing
and
if
there
might
be
a
few
pressing
things?
B
But
if
there's
nothing
after
that,
then
it
can
quickly
fall
apart,
which
I'm
guessing
is
what
happened
to
the
last
committee
a
few
years
ago.
That
was
attempted,
so
we
want
to
make
this
one
very
well
defined,
where
they
give
input
along
the
process,
how
they
give
it,
how
often
they
meet
what
you
know,
what
the
what
so
so
that
they
know
what
they're
meeting
on
and
we
can
include
all
the
people
at
the
at
the
table.
One
thing
I'm
very
excited
that
we're
going
to
work
on
that.
B
I
also
heard
that
el
paso
meeting
they're
working
on
a
bi-national
study
of
how
their
transportation
integrates,
and
we
want
to
do
the
same
thing
here
when
we're
modeling,
not
just
our
traffic
on
our
side
but
we're
modeling
modeling,
both
our
commercial
and
our
our
regular
traffic.
On
this
side,
you
can
do
that
in
one
model
and
really
get
an
understanding
of
where
we
need
infrastructure
in
the
future,
having
not
only
our
input
but
their
input
on
that
side
as
well.
B
H
A
H
Thank
you
listen!
I
I
mayor,
I
think
it's
kind
of
preliminary
our
the
city's
committee
is
still
quite
not
quite
there
yet
as
far
as
figuring
out
the
purpose-
and
I
I
think
the
discussion
at
this
point-
I
get
it.
I
understand
the
discussion
regarding
international
cooperation
as
far
as
transportation
is
concerned,
but
but
I
think
I
think
it's
just
a
little
early
to
to
really
discuss
this,
because
we
don't
even
know
what
it
entails
yet
mayor.
A
A
We
do
have
a
regional,
the
laredo
regional
area,
which
may
be
a
little
too
large,
but
maybe
you
know
maybe
that
that
that
group
of
people
that
body
that
meets
regionally
you
know
could
could
be
some
help
at
some
point,
I'm
not
saying
now,
but
at
some
point
you
know
to
get
the
perspectives
of
both
the
you
know,
the
mexicans
and,
of
course,
us
here,
but
that's
just
an
idea.
Mr
rosales
go
ahead.
F
D
Well,
I,
yes,
I
had
brought
the
idea
of
the
city
committee,
the
the
trade
committee
and
we're
actually
finalizing
that.
Probably
this
week
we
had
a
meeting
and
it
got
rescheduled
so,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
room
for
more
than
one
committee,
especially
if
on
this
one,
we're
gonna
try
to
focus
more
on
the
international
side.
I
can
tell
you
from
experience
all
every
day
this
past
week,
fm
1472
has
been
horrendous
for
the
residents
trying
to
get
into
this
area.
D
D
Ambulances
can't
get
through
people
can't
get
into
town
it's
impossible
to
get
anywhere,
especially
since
we
only
have
that
you
know
if
you're
in
green
ranch
or
in
la
botta
or
in
deer
creek.
You
have
to
go
on
fm
1472,
at
least
until
kilim,
industrial
and
kilim
industrial
left-hand
turn
is
impossible.
D
So
you
keep
going
all
the
way
to
the
loop
and
by
the
time
you
even
have
a
chance
to
get
out.
If
you
are
lucky
enough
on
kilum
to
take
a
ride
and
go
down
riverbank,
you
still
have
to
do
a
loop
and
come
around
and
come
back
up
on
fast
skin.
So
you're
talking
people
stuck
in
traffic
hours
and
then
the
overpasses
are
the
the
traffic
so
backed
up
that
people
taking
the
shortcut
routes.
The
overpasses
are
stuck
they're
stuck
there
for
hours.
F
F
The
right
person
on
it
it'll
really
make
our
job
at
the
as
policy
committee
members
a
lot
easier
when
information
is
brought
to
us
and
help
us
make
more
educated
and
informed
decisions.
So
I
think
it's
important.
You
know
that
we
do
have
these
committees,
but
I
want
to
act.
What
council
martinez
mentioned
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
they're
clearly
defined,
and
we
have
a
clear
goal
in
place
of
how
we
want
to
get
that
accomplished.
But
again,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
as
as
coming
from
the
text
outside.
F
A
B
B
All
that
we're
asking
is,
let
us
go
through
the
planning
process.
First,
the
freight
logistics
infrastructure
plan.
You
know
expect
about
a
year
or
so
and
again
we'll
review
that
as
part
of
the
agenda
later
today
talk
about
what
we're
what
we're
doing
in
terms
of
plans
and
then
that
way,
when
we
do
put
this
committee
together,
they
have
a
very
well
defined
scope.
But
I'll
just
say
briefly,
one
of
the
big
parts
that's
been
missing
in
this
npo
and
going
forward.
B
We're
definitely
seeking
to
remedy
is
that
that
public
input,
both
informally
having
more
meetings
having
engaging
the
public
more
but
also
formally
having
committees
such
as
a
freight
logistics
infrastructure
committee.
Now
what
council
member
perez
is
talking
about
dealing
with
operations,
maybe
dealing
with
issues
with
the
city
or
maybe
there's
a
traffic
issue
that
would
not
necessarily
be
the
scope
of
of
this
committee.
B
You
know
school
district,
every
every
group
out
there.
What
infrastructure
projects
do
you
think
we
need
to
build
and
we
got
three.
So
the
the
bulk
of
what
we
got
in
our
mtp
was
just
from
a
model
that
our
consultants
put
together
years
ago.
Coming
around
this
time,
when
we
go
through
this
process
again,
we
hope
to
get
dozens.
If
not
more
calls
for
project,
which
means
we
have
to
have
those
established
partnerships.
G
A
I
I
I
am
I
am
seeing
what
the
item
is.
I've
kind
of
heard
a
little
bit
of
what's
going
on,
and
I
think
it's
important
me
myself
and
I
I
don't
know
what
direction
we've
gone
to
or
where
we're
going
or
what
we're
heading.
But
I
think
the
mpo
is
the
actual
avenue
that
we
should
be
as
far
as
the
logistics
committee
and
freight
and
logistics
committee.
I
think
this
is
our
job.
I
think
it's
a
good.
I
If
we
especially
want
to
keep
hanging
our
hat
on
being
the
number
one
inland
port
in
the
united
states,
it's
our
job,
it's
our
responsibility
to
be
able
to
start
working
on
some
of
this
stuff.
It
seems
like
we're
always
in
order
for
us
to
keep
number
one.
You
know
I
keep
talking
about
that.
Second,
four
or
five
bridge.
You
know,
there's
situations
that
you
know
we've
been
dealing
with
with
certain
situations
and
aspects
of
this
whole
deal
like
mine's
road.
My
road
is
only
gonna
grow.
I
So
much-
and
I
could
you
know
I
could
keep-
we've
tried
it
and
tried
it
and
tried
it
and
figured
out.
It's
gonna
take
billions
of
dollars.
If
not,
you
know
a
lot
of
it,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
continue
some
way
somehow
forward,
thinking
some
way
somehow
inspiring
others
to
also
just
not
look
at
just
one,
because
you
have
another
industrial
park.
That's
popping
up.
I
I
mean
everybody
talks
about
my
drill
being
the
industrial
park
and,
right
now
it
is,
but
let's
not
forget,
bridge
one
hello
bridge
one.
You
know
everybody
said
when
bridge
two
was
made,
that
they
didn't
want
to
move
their
logistics
company
around
hey.
It
followed
bridge
two
bridge
two,
then
all
of
a
sudden
three,
you
know
now
we
have
this
one.
Everybody
said
they
couldn't.
I
They
couldn't
afford
to
move
bridge
two
from
bridge
two
as
time
goes
on,
we
have
to
expand,
and
history
has
proven
that
wherever
it
goes,
it's
gonna
follow
wherever
our
freight
will
go.
It
saddens
me
that
el
paso
has
seven
seven
bridges
and
three
of
them
are
commercial
bridges
and
they're
ranked
16th
in
the
nation.
I
It's
sad
that
we
have
to
go
through
that
when
we
are
the
number
one
in
the
nation
and
we're
fighting,
we
have
one
and
only
one,
and
then
we
have
a
situation
on
minds
that
we
can't
get
out
of.
We
have
to
expand.
Ourselves
is
what
I'm
saying,
and
so,
if
this
is
the
case,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
we
have
to
be
true
to
what
we
are.
What
we're
doing
here.
I
So
my
advice
is
yes,
we
have
a
technical
committee
very
much
so,
but
we
also
have
to
be
the
champions
on
this
board
to
be
able
to
move
the
freight
and
be
able
to
move
the
people
free
this
free
to
go
and
be
able
to
move
them
freely.
I
should
say
so.
Those
are
my
comments,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
was
if
it
was
that
kind
of
subject,
but
anyway
I
said
my
piece
and
I'll
continue
listening.
I
appreciate.
D
Thank
you
judge
and
mayor
yeah,
no,
my
so
if
mr
seidman,
if
that's
not
gonna,
be
any
purpose
of
this
committee,
then
are
there
any?
Is
there
anything
in
the
works
for
us
to
address
that
issue
that
I
brought
up?
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
here
experienced
any
of
it
last
week,
but
it
was
pretty
bad
as
far
as
the
breakdowns
between
6
p.m
and
11
12
p.m.
At
night
or
midnight.
B
B
It's
looking
at
the
long
range
plan,
I
know
sometimes
there's
been
a
temptation
in
the
past
to
use
this
committee
as
a
way
to
you
know,
bring
up
issues
of
of
operations
or
maintenance
or
traffic
issues
you're
experiencing
right
now,
and
it's
if
those
meetings
are
better
taken
place
with
txdot
out
of
this
meeting,
they'll
gladly
open
their
doors
to
you.
That's
been
my
experience
when
I
work
as
the
city
planning
director
capacity
working
with
them.
They'll
always
take
your
midi.
B
They'll,
always
listen
to
those
issues
there,
and
I
don't
know
if
tito
or
or
if,
mr
salazar,
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
but
certainly
the
mpo
would
be
better
focused
on
longer
term.
What
we're
doing
to
plan
for
the
future
and
leave
those
operations
of
maintenance
to
the
city
and
and
to
meetings
with
tech
stock.
C
C
Well,
I
do
think
that
having
a
committee
like
this
is
is
unbelievably
a
great
great
asset
to
the
npo
and
the
local
folks
of
the
city
of
laredo.
I
think
mr
schneiderman,
your
strides
in
moving
forward
as
far
as
getting
an
npo
chairman
that
is
not
a
city.
Employee
is
in
a
great
direction,
and
I'd
like
to
remind
everybody
that
the
technical
committee
is
a
key
component
of
the
npo.
C
The
techno
committee
is
maybe
something
that
we
need
to
focus
on.
That
is
where
you
have
the
different
representation
of
the
community
to
help
assist
in
the
direction.
As
mr
kirby
stymie
was
saying,
the
direction
of
where
we're
trying
to
hit
the
direction
we're
going
while
these
freight
logistic
committees
are
a
great
asset,
tremendous
asset,
I
would
caution
as
a
subcommittee
to
the
npo.
C
While
they
do
have
a
15-member
committee
on
the
npo,
they
went
from
35
members
to
15
and
they're
still
looking
to
reduce
that
some
of
the
better
greater
npos
throughout
the
state
of
texas
have
a
po
policy
community
five
members
only
and
why
I
bring
that
to
light
is
that
they
have
very
strong
committees,
technical
committees,
that
by
the
time
it
comes
to
the
npo
policy
committee.
The
only
thing
that's
left
is
a
voting
action
on
that
and
to
echo
mrs
ferriss
comments.
Yes,
absolutely
the
issue
that
our
minds
real.
C
They
need
to
be
brought
forth
on
committees
such
as
this
extended
committees.
So
when
we
get
to
this
point,
we
can
move
forward
in
direction
of
what
we're
trying
to
get
to.
I
know
I
didn't
quite
answer
her
question,
but
but
in
regards
to
the
congestion
on
mine's
roads,
if
you
ask
me
right
now,
what
is
it
like
on
my
show?
It's
congested,
but
through
the
previous
actions
of
the
npo
and
the
mayor,
claire
mead,
said
he
was
a
great
factor
that
the
fastlane
project
is
coming.
C
We
have
been
working
on
them
to
get
to
this
point,
so
we
can
move
forward,
but
she
does
bring
a
great
point
as
far
as
operations
with
our
mexican
counterparts
and
and
our
our
customs
and
dps
on
on
this
side
of
the
border.
You
know
we
can
have
a
hundred
lanes
on
mines
road
in
I-69,
but
if
I'm
only
crossing
two
lanes
at
a
time
we're
turning
that
into
a
parking
lot.
C
B
Mr
salazar,
it's
just
a
follow-up
to
that
when
we're
talking
about
planning
and
infrastructure
versus
operations
and
maintenance,
when,
if
somebody
has
an
issue
dealing
with
operations
or
maintenance,
where
would
you
prefer
that
be
brought?
Would
you
want
to
be
brought
to
the
npo
through
a
committee,
or
would
you
prefer
that
be
a
meeting
that
that
the
city
approached
or
the
county
approach
txdot
have
meetings
outside
of
these
formal
npo
meetings?
What
how
would
you.
C
Conversate
with
them-
that
is
that's,
certainly
an
excellent
question,
mr
schneiderman
and-
and
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
forth
and
I
apologize.
They
were
rambled
and
and
didn't
quite
answer
your
question,
but
you're
absolutely
right,
operation
and
maintenance
of
those
highways
and
we've
been
through
this
before
a
quick
phone
call
to
our
local
district
office.
We
can
assist
that
long-term
planning.
You
know
additional
lanes
bypasses
or
whatnot.
That
is
something
that
should
be
discussed
at
the
technical
committee
here
and
brought
forth
with
tech
side
as
well
to
bring
to
a
project.
C
But
when
it
comes
down
to
operation
and
maintenance,
you
know
the
timing
of
the
lighting,
the
the
payment
on
the
roadway.
That
is
something
that
you
can
most
definitely
call
our
local
office
down.
Here.
A
lot
of
you
have
my
phone
number
and
have
called
me
before
a
short
phone
call,
an
email
and
we
can
respond
to
those.
B
Thank
you,
mr
salazar.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear,
because
the
expectations
of
of
the
policy
committee,
members,
y'all
and
also
the
public
when
they
come
to
this
meeting,
it's
so
much
more
effective.
If
we
understand
what
the
purpose
of
this
npo
is
it,
it's
not
a
space
for
us
to
address
all
of
our
issues
with
tax
time
this.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
city
county
to
come
together
and
to
look
at
the
future.
B
What
are
we
doing
for
the
future
to
make
sure
that
transportation
in
this
region
and
this
community
continues
to
support
the
population
and
the
businesses
that
are
here,
and
that
is
pretty
much
the
single
mission
of
this
npo?
Well,
it
can
be
a
space
for
us
to
come
together
on
other
ideas.
Then
we
start
to
dilute
our
our
effectiveness.
A
Okay,
so
if
I
gather
then
based
on
what
was
said
is,
is
that
there's
an
incl,
a
strong
inclination
that
we
use
to
expand,
possibly
the
technical
committee,
but
for
a
long-term
planning
and
and
not
necessarily
have
a
a
subcommittee
that
the
subcommittee
possibly
could
could
be?
You
know,
could
fair
better,
I
think
in
in
the
city
council.
A
C
Surely,
mayor
the
low-hanging
fruit,
if
y'all
can
recall,
we
had
a
list
of
parties
that
was
done
on
a
tti
study
for
the
mines,
road
intersection
and
so
far
we've
brought
a
lot
of
those
to
to
light
with
the
assistance
of
the
rma
and
miss
montemayor.
The
left
turn
lane
at
kiliman.
Internet
industrial
is
a
one
project.
That's
coming
forth.
C
A
I
So
I
guess
my
question
would
be
on
oh
we're
doing
another
technical
committee,
but
don't
we
have
other
committees
already
out
there
I.e
like
the
border
trade
master
plan?
Don't
we
have
also
like
the
bridge
master
plan?
All
these
kind
of
people
have
been
sitting
on
giving
their
their
opportunity
to
speak
and
figure
out.
Other
studies
I
mean
this
is
just
another
way.
A
H
J
E
A
B
B
Is
this
duplication
in
both
of
these
committees,
but
but
here's
what
we're
proposing
we're
going
to
do
a
plan,
a
freight
logistics
plan,
a
master
plan
for
the
region
right
now,
we're
we're
doing
a
bridge
master
plan
and
that's
focusing
on
the
bridge
we're
going
to
focus
on
the
rest
of
the
infrastructure
in
the
region
and
how
that
feeds
into
those
bridges.
That's
why
we
want
them
to
finish
that
plan
first
or
get
significantly
through.
You
know
make
significant
progress
on
that
plan.
B
They
have
a
very
well
defined
mission
and
scope
and
we're
going
to
make
that
table
very
wide.
We
want
to
have
representation
from
any
and
all
on
this
and
the
other
side
to
give
us
the
best
information
and
best
input
possible,
but,
like
councilmember
martinez,
said
that's
probably
about
a
year
or
so
out
from
now,
because
we
don't
want
to
rush
into
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
this
in
a
very
methodical
way.
A
D
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
the
one
for
the
city
is
going
to
be
created
way
sooner
than
that,
so
maybe
let
the
one
from
the
city
go
and
if
mpo
wants
to
create
it,
then
maybe
they
can
coordinate
with
it
from
there
or
maybe
that
committee
can
serve
to
help
in
with
that
input.
That
is
needed
for
that
part
of
the
mpo,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
the
city.
One
then
first.
A
B
I'll
just
say
one
really,
quick,
the
one.
The
one
reason
we
didn't
want
it
to
be,
not
that
you
know
there
won't
be
any
conflict
if
the
city
has
one,
I
think
the
more
input
you
can
get
the
better,
but
the
idea
of
having
it
at
the
mpo
was
because
we
definitely
want
the
county
to
be
included
in
that
process.
Not
for
it
to
just
be
a
city
committee.
B
We
want
it
to
be
a
regional
committee
that
serves
the
county,
serves
the
city
serves
the
the
whole
region
and-
and
that
was
the
that
was
the
plan
with
what
we
were
proposing,
so
we
met
there
probably
will
be
because
we
don't
want
too
much
duplication,
we'll
be
working
with
you
all
very
much
council
member,
but
as
because
we
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
have
conflict.
We
want
to
work
together
and
we'll
definitely
consider
that
as
we're
putting
together
this
plan,.
I
I
I
totally
agree,
and
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
the
county
does
have
to
have
a
be
a
part
of
this,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
consider
some
of
these
committees
that
have
been
whether
it's
the
county
or
the
city
and
bring
them
into
the
mpo,
because
I
don't
know
how
a
a
a
county
or
a
city
could
do
them
by
themselves.
Rather
than
just
have
a
plan,
the
mpo
could
actually
create
it
and
could
foster
it
could
mature
it
could
water,
it
could
water
that
seed
to
mature.
I
A
K
K
C
The
gist
of
the
amendments
is
allowing
texas
to
take
over
on
the
environmental
clearance
of
the
projects.
We
will
be
utilizing
a
contractors
on
board
and
ready
to
go
now.
We
need
to
have
this
accomplished,
so
we
can
proceed
with
the
psne
of
the
project
as
well,
which
is
the
design
of
the
projects,
so
we
can
move
forward.
C
None
of
these
actions
that
we're
taking
should
delay
the
project
anything
and
still
has
the
same
letting
date
so
bottom
line
that
those
letters
should
be
coming
to
judo
de
gerina
and
yourself
for
the
amendment
of
these
contracts.
We
have
been
working
diligently
with
city
staff
and
webb
county
staff.
C
A
E
A
A
C
That
that
is
correct
mayor.
It
is
in
the
letters
that
came
to
you
and
the
agreement
of
our
future
plans
to
take
over
the
ruth
and
john
project
into
it's
all
described
in
the
letter
that
you'll
be
receiving
as
well
as
the
amendment
that's
coming
to
the
county
and
the
city.
I
think
mr
gonzalez
probably
has
a
little
bit
more
details.
I
don't
know
if
he
wants
to
provide
any
additional
comments
on
that,
though,.
F
A
A
B
G
Yes,
and
so
the
report
is
accurate,
the
only
thing
that
I'll
add
is
on
kilim
industrial
boulevard.
We
did
state
that
that
the
construction
should
start
march,
which
is
this
month.
We
have
been
notified
that
there
is
a
traffic
signal,
that's
imperative
to
be
phased
in.
First,
those
traffic
materials
are
a
little
hard
to
come
by
right
now
and
so
in
terms
of
timing.
G
G
Thank
you
so
much
last
month
for
the
resolution
and
support
of
the
viaceo
road.
That
project
will
be
part
of
the
draft
utp,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
perhaps
that
project
getting
funded,
we'll
just
have
to
wait
and
see.
We
understand
the
competition
is
quite
quite
tough
for
category
12.
funds
for
these
types
of
projects,
cat
12
as
a
reminder
is
the
texas
transportation
commissions
strategic
priority
funding.
G
G
A
B
Every
year
we
receive
a
planning
grant
from
the
state
from
the
federal
government
through
the
state.
That's
how
we
can
operate,
that's
how
we
pay
for
projects
if
we
hire
consultants,
it's
also
how
we
pay
for
our
staff.
Now
you'll
recall
a
couple
years
ago,
when
I
came
here,
I
I
said
we
could
do
it
a
different
way.
Instead
of
having
minimal
staff,
one
two
two
people
and
then
consulting
with
for
everything,
every
plan
we
do,
we
could
actually
hire
staff
and
train
them
and
retain
that
institutional
knowledge.
B
Every
time
we
complete
a
plan
and
also
complete
more
plans
and
complete
them
more
quickly,
because
our
turnaround
time
could
be
quicker
because
we
don't
have
to
go
through
the
procurement
process.
Every
time
we
want
to
study
something
exciting
thing
is
we're.
Finally,
there
we've
got
a
great
team
together,
you
know,
gracie,
juan
jason
and
now
julio
are
our
our
newest
team
member
on
the
mpo
and
we're
doing
some
great
things.
B
It
has
to
be
at
least
once
a
year
once
a
year,
but
you
can
do
more
longer
term
and
more
strategic
than
that,
so
we're
in
the
process
right
now
of
developing
a
five-year
strategic
look
at
what
we
want
to
study
now
that
doesn't
mean
we'll
come
to
you
once
every
five
years,
we'll
still
come
to
you
once
every
year,
but
we're
looking
not
at
just
the
next
12
months,
we're
looking
at
the
next
five
years
and
even
beyond
to
say
what
are
the
issues
we
want
to
study?
What
are
the
plans?
B
B
B
You've
got
some
menu
items
at
the
top
about
the
mpo
is
going
to
give
you
where
the
show
you,
where
the
boundary
is
it's
where
you
can
find
our
bylaws,
which
are
the
rules
of
how
we
have
to
operate
the
membership
of
the
policy
committee
members,
the
technical
committee,
one.
Let's
make
a
note,
we
need
to
add
the
active
translation
committee
here
too.
So
we
see
that
membership,
our
staff
directory
and
then
some
compliance
documents.
B
The
next
thing
is
the
meetings
we,
if
you
notice
a
slight
change
we've
now
we've
been
sending
you.
Instead
of
the
packet
we've
been
sending
you
a
link
to
our
website
that
takes
you
to
this
page
agendas
and
minutes
so
that
you
can
always
know
you
can
go
here.
If
you
lose
that
link
or
you
can't
find
the
email
you
always
can
know,
you
can
go
here
and
soak
in
the
public
to
get
our
agenda
our
minutes
to
see
the
videos
of
the
meetings,
plans
and
documents.
B
Here,
you
can
find
all
the
plans
that
we're
completing,
as
as
the
npo,
and
this
is
going
to
be
really
important
because
we're
going
to
be
doing
more
of
this
and
I'll
share
in
just
a
second.
You
can
also
look
at
the
unified
planning
work
program.
This
document
right
here
is
our
one
year
plan
that
we
have
to
submit
the
text
doc.
To
say
this
is
how
we're
going
to
spend
our
planning
grant.
B
This
is
how
we're
spending
the
money
you're,
giving
us
to
study
not
to
build
remember
this
is
not
the
money
to
build
anything.
We
actually
can't
use
it
for
any
infrastructure.
This
is
specifically
to
fund
our
staff
and
to
fund
our
consultants.
If
we
use
any,
then
we've
got
projects.
This
is
our
listing
of
projects
and
any
contracts
agreements
in
mou's.
B
If
we
ever
post
our
qrp,
that's
going
to
be
here
and
then
a
contact
us
button
where
the
public
can
always
get
a
hold
of
us
where
they
can,
they
can
give
us
any
questions
that
they
have.
The
problem
in
the
past
of
putting
our
emails
on
here
is
that
we
put
our
emails
on
the
website.
It
just
gets
crawled,
and
then
we
get
a
bunch
of
spam.
So,
like
all
organizations
we're
moving
away
from
that
and
having
a
contact
button
so.
B
Website
and
what
I'm
now
going
to
show,
you
is
the
work
plan
that
we've
been
working
on
so
instead
of
just
a
one
year
we're
looking
at
the
next
several
years.
Let
me
zoom
out
just
a
little
bit,
and
I
want
to
get
your
input
on
this,
so
I'm
going
to
explain
each
of
these
very
briefly
and
then
get
your
input
on
how
we
should
either
prioritize
these
or,
if
there's
anything,
that
you
see
that
we're
not
focusing
in
on
that,
you
think
hey
kirby.
B
I
B
B
So
the
public
can
see
where
we're
at
what
we're
studying
what
we're
working
on
column
b
is
the
plans
and
projects
that
the
title
of
the
plan
or
the
project
we're
working
on
columns
c
through
g
just
give
us
some
internal
information
about
who's,
leading
the
project
and
who
our
partners
are
on
the
on
the
project
and
then
columns,
h
and
beyond
show
the
fiscal
years.
Where
were
the
quarters?
B
Each
of
these
is
divided
up
into
q1,
q2,
q3
or
q4
of
any
given
year,
and
that
way
we
know
roughly
how
long
the
plan
is
going
to
take
and
we
can
program
how
many
plans
we're
doing
at
a
time.
So
that
way,
we're
not
we're
we're
scheduling
it
correctly.
Now,
you'll
notice.
Some
of
these
repeat:
that's
because
we
have
a
few
different
types
of
plans
that
we
complete
as
an
npo.
B
We
have
some
plans,
we're
required
to
complete
the
federal
government
and
the
state
say:
okay,
every
five
years,
you
need
to
make
that
you
need
to
do
this
plan.
You
need
to
keep
it
updated
every
two
years.
You
need
to
do
this
one
every
one
year.
You
need
to
do
this
regularly.
You
need
to
update
this.
So
that's
all
in
here
we've
programmed
that
so
that
we
we
know
what
what
plans
have
to
repeat
the
metropolitan
transportation
plan.
B
The
mtp
that's
a
plan
that
we
regularly
have
to
update
every
five
years
or
so
transportation
improvement
program.
Every
couple
years,
unified
planning,
work
program
every
year,
our
public
participation
plan.
That's
our
plan,
for
how
do
we
reach
the
public?
What's
our
process
when
we
have
public
meetings?
What's
our
process
of
how
much
time
in
between
meetings
when
we
notice
something
notice
how
we
have
a
10-day
public
hearing
period,
that's
been
developed
through
our
public
participation
plan
and
then
also
in
our
bylaws.
Those.
G
B
Can
change
we
just
can't
change
them
on
you
know
willy-nilly.
We
have
to
have
a
plan
for
how
we're
receiving
public
input.
That
was
the
last
time
that
was
done
was
several
years
ago,
and
it's
only
a
few
pages
long.
We
want
to
really
buff
that
plan
up
to
really
understand,
and
this
is
going
to
be
exciting.
B
With
this
plan,
we
want
to
not
only
give
ourselves
a
basis
for
how
we're
involving
the
public,
but
we
really
want
to
answer
the
question
of
what's
the
best
way
to
reach
the
public
in
webb,
county
and
laredo
city.
What's
the
best
way,
because
I
often
hear
the
council
having
this
question
saying
well,
if
we
do
a
survey,
are
we
forgetting
about
the
people
who
don't
you
know
who
can't
use
the
internet?
How
many
people
don't
have
internet
access
in
the
city?
B
Do
we
know
that
data
is
there,
but
maybe
it's
not
really
accessible,
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
in
this
plan
is
to
say
here
are
all
the
different
types
of
people
and
groups
in
this
city
represented
by
groups
and
age
and
their
their
their
availability
to
certain
technology,
and
what
do
they
feel
comfortable
using
as
a
way
for
us
to
get
their
input?
Would
they
prefer
us
calling
them?
Would
they
prefer
mailed
surveys?
Would
they
prefer
the
internet,
but
they
prefer
what's
the
best
way
for
them
to
for
their
voice,
to
be
heard.
B
So
we're
really
excited
about
that
plan.
That's
something
we
need
to
regularly
update,
but
but
the
feds
don't
tell
us
how
often
we've
got
a
railroad
quiet
zone
that
we're
currently
working
on.
That's
mostly
at
this
point
a
city
project,
but
the
mpo
has
been,
has
some
involvement
on
that
that's
line
six
line.
Seven
is
a
public
transportation
agency
safety
plan.
That's
currently
being
worked
on
right
now:
the
congestion
congestion
management
process,
that's
how
we're
dealing
with
congestion
in
the
region,
how
we're
dealing
with
certain
metrics,
how
we
collect
that
data
and
that's
a
process.
B
That's
a
plan
that
we've
started
and-
and
it's
going
to
take
us
about
a
year
to
complete
the
transit,
comprehensive
operational
analysis.
This
is
a
project
that
we
dedicated
250
000
to
it's,
the
el
metro's
project,
they're
going
to
look
at
we've.
If
you
recall,
we
hired
stantec
national
experts
in
in
this
type
of
planning
and
they're
going
to
look
at
operations
for
el
metro,
the
routes,
how
often
the
routes
go?
What
kind
of
infrastructure
which
kind
of
amenities?
How
do
we
better
what
our
fees
are
like?
Are
they
competitive?
Are
they
discouraging
ridership?
B
A
future
thoroughfare
plan,
that's
something
we
just
brought
the
city
council,
but
because
it
has
something
to
do
with
transportation.
We
were
able
to
provide
the
assistance
on
on
that
looking
at
the
region
having
those
meetings
with
txdot
and
the
public
and
many
different
organizations,
that's
something
we're
going
to
be
doing
at
least
once
a
year,
but
probably
multiple
times
a
year,
because,
as
the
npo,
we
have
access
to
a
lot
of
information
resources,
both
the
county
and
the
city.
B
B
B
It
takes
you
to
a
project
page.
That
shows
you
all
the
different
components
that
this
plan
will
require,
and
you
know
this
is
an
ongoing
it.
This
isn't
all
complete
it's
ongoing,
but
this
helps
us
understand
the
task.
We
need
to
do
to
complete
this
plan
and
this
one's
going
to
be
a
big
one,
but
in
looking
at
it,
what
we
understood
with
the
freight
logistics
infrastructure
plan
is
that
there
are
some
really
good
plans
being
done
right
now
that
we
need
to
wait
for
the
border.
B
The
question
they're
asking
is:
what
kind
of
infrastructure
do
they
need?
How
many
lanes
the
you
know?
How
are
they
servicing
those
lanes?
What's
the
amount
of
throughput?
What
can
they
do
to
increase
that?
What
we're
going
to
be
asking
is
what
about
all
the
infrastructure
that
connects
to
those
bridges?
Is
it
adequate?
What
what
do
we
need
are
we
are
we
measuring
and
are
we
tracking
the
the
growth
and
all
of
that
here
locally
and
where
does
it
go
once
it
gets?
In
you
know.
B
B
You
know
one
of
the
big
questions
that
we
always
wonder
about
is
how
many
of
the
the
freight
and
logistics
companies
that
are
here
transfer
loads
between
us
and
mexican
drivers.
What
does
that
look
like
and
what's
the
impact
to
our
traffic?
So
those
are
questions
we're
going
to
answer
with
that,
and
we're
also
going
to
do
a
lot
of
public
input
or
a
lot
of
public
outreach
with
those
companies
make
a
lot
of
good
contacts.
B
And
then,
as
I
mentioned,
we
want
to
form
a
committee
so
that
we
we
continue
to
to
receive
that
input
regularly.
Moving
forward
we're
looking
at
completing
a
sidewalk
gap
analysis
so
as
part
of
the
transportation
plan
which
we
completed
earlier
this
year,
one
of
the
recommendations
of
that
plan
was
to
complete
a
sidewalk
gap.
Analysis.
What's
that
well
pedestrians,
you
know
the
main
one
of
the
big
purposes
of
the
mpo
is
to
look
at
vehicle
traffic,
but
we
should
also
be
looking
at
the
other
ways.
People
get
around
in
the
city
and
there's.
D
B
Part
of
the
population
that
gets
around
as
a
pedestrian
that
gets
around
on
foot
and
are
we
considering
them,
and
I
think
we
are
we're
concerned
about
them-
we're
concerned
that
they
have
safe
crossings,
that
they
have
good
infrastructure.
But
when
we
spend
money
on
that
infrastructure
it
appears
well,
it
doesn't
appear
the
way
that
we're
spending
that
money
is
not
very
strategic.
B
Put
it
over
here
in
my
district
or
I've
got
some
money,
let's
put
it
over
here
in
this
part
of
the
city,
but
is
that
the
best
place
we
could
be
spending
that
money
to
complete
pedestrian
infrastructure?
Is
it
put
in
where
there's
the
most
pedestrian
traffic
is
it
put
in
where
we
have
the
greatest
need
for
those
that
are
that
that
only
have
the
ability
to
get
around
as
a
pedestrian?
B
Those
are
questions
we
want
to
answer
with
a
sidewalk
gap,
analysis
and
then
actually
perform
the
study
to
say
here
it
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
spend
it
this
way,
but
it
will
say
to
the
county
and
to
the
city
when
you
do
spend
money
on
sidewalks,
here's
your
biggest
bang
for
your
buck,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
study.
That's
never
been
done
in
the
city
before
been
done,
many
other
places,
but
never
here.
So
we're
excited
about
that
downtown
traffic
and
parking
study.
B
You
know
one
of
the
big
questions.
One
of
the
big
recommendations
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
was
to
look
at
downtown
traffic
and
converting
some
of
those
two
ways
back
into
one
of
those.
Some
of
those
one
ways
back
into
two
ways:
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
downtown
area
of
the
city
and
you
look
at
how
many
one-way
roads
there
are
what's.
B
Is
what
do
one-way
roads
do
very?
Well,
they
move
traffic
through,
but
they're,
not
really
good
about
getting
traffic
in
and
out
it's
about
moving
it
through
now,
I
would
guess-
and
we
haven't
done
this
study
yet,
but
I
would
guess
that
the
we're
always
probably
going
to
want
to
maintain
houston
and
washington
as
one
with
major
one
ways
through
the
downtown,
but
there
are
many
other
one
ways
that
we
can
convert
back
into
two
ways.
Why
would
we
want
to
do
that?
B
Well,
because
people
are
gonna,
people
are
wanting
to
live
to
shop
and
to
recreate
more
downtown,
and
we
don't
want
people
to
just
be
going
through
at
high
speeds.
We
want
them
to
be
able
to
access
very
easily
and
get
around
if
you're,
if
you're
new
to
this
city,
even
if
you're,
not
new,
you
might
go
downtown
and
think.
Oh,
my
goodness,
how
do
I
what
that's
a
one
way?
How
do
I
get
down
that?
How
do
I
come
back
this
way?
B
It's
very
easy
to
get
confused
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
quantify
that
and
and
have
recommendations
for
how
we
could
make
those
make
the
transition
back
to
two
ways.
That
obviously,
would
come
at
a
significant
cost
and
we'd
want
to
look
at
where
that
funding
could
come
from
and
how
it
would
benefit.
If
we're
making
this
change,
is
there
a
benefit?
I
believe
there
would
be
and
we'd
want
to
quantify
that
as
part
of
that,
we
also
want
to
do
an
updated
parking
study.
B
So
we
want
to
perform
that
study
in
conjunction
with
the
traffic
department,
with
el
metro,
with
the
county
and
city
all
on
board,
and
we
can
look
at
our
parking
as
a
resource
that
we
don't
just
want
to
eliminate,
but
also
to
be
effective
in
how
we're
managing
that
parking
and
an
independent,
strategic
npo
plan
that
plan.
It
will
look
at
how
we
can
move
from
being
the
npo
under
the
city
as
an
independent
mpo
that
serves
the
county
and
the
city,
just
as.
B
As
well
in
the
region
as
a
whole,
I
try
my
very
best
as
a
director
as
both
the
planning
director
for
the
city
and
the
mpo
director
for
the
npo.
I
take
it
very
seriously
that,
in
this
role
as
the
mpo
director
that
I
serve
the
county
and
the
city
equally,
and
that
this
mpo
should
be
independent
and
shouldn't
be
influenced
by
by
anybody,
it
should
be
presenting
the
information
as
best
it
can.
B
But
it's
difficult
it's
challenging
when
our
staff
are
kind
of
intertwined
with
the
city
staff
and,
of
course,
my
time
is
only
half
the
time
for
a
job.
That's
basically
full-time.
That
makes
it
very
challenging.
It
really
is
a
full-time
job
deserves
a
full-time
director
and
I'm
going
to
present
a
plan
to
you
about
how
we
can
make
that
strategic
move
to
becoming
a
more
independent
npo
with
its
own
independent
director
appointed
by
the
policy
committee.
B
At
this
point,
if
the
city
council
said
you
know
what
kirby
we're,
we
don't
like
you
anymore,
get
out
of
here.
If
they
say
that,
guess
what
you
also
lose
your
mpo
director
and
what
you
want
to
be
in
a
position,
is
you
want
to
have
your
own
mpo,
director
appointed
by
your
policy
committee,
who
is
ultimately
accountable
to
you
to
the
city
and
into
the
county
into
txdot
as
well?
B
So
we're
going
to
be
working
towards
that
and
putting
together
a
plan
of
how
you
can
do
that
and
then
finally,
a
plan
recently
we
we've
been
we've
been
putting
together
the
components
of
we
met
with
the
rma
last
week
to
discuss.
We
want
to
do
a
south
florida
transportation
study.
As
you
recall,
the
rma
completed
a
north
laredo
transportation
study
did
a
fantastic
job.
That
was
a
very
expensive
plan
because
they
had
to
complete
all
that
through
their
consultants.
B
But
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
do
the
majority
of
this
in-house.
Although
there
may
be
a
technical
component,
we
need
to
hire
some
consultants
on
for
traffic
counts,
but
we
would
like
to
complete
something
similar
that
says:
hey
here
is
south
laredo.
Here's
how
it's
we're
expecting
it
to
grow,
and
here
is
the
infrastructure
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
feel
facilitate
that
growth
and
our
idea,
unless
you
want
us
to
push
that
up.
B
Our
idea
is
to
start
that
plan
in
in
later
this
year,
2021
and
for
that
to
be
about
a
a
10
to
14
month
plan
where
we
go
through
that
process
of
asking
those
questions,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer.
If
we
have
some
challenges
with
traffic
counts,
but
I
I
would
think
by
that
time,
we'll
be
done
with
kovit
and
so
we're
getting
really
good
traffic
numbers
that
we
can
use
up
to
date.
B
So
those
are
the
plans
there's.
This
is
not
the
all
that
we're
doing
as
an
mpo.
These
are
just
the
big
plans
and
projects
that
we
wanted
to
get
your
input
on
that
we
wanted
to
say
we
wanted
to
make
sure
as
a
policy
committee
you're
saying,
okay,
kirby,
these
ones
are
our
priorities,
focus
on
these
and
and
of
course,
they're
the
ones
we
have
to
do.
But
we
want
to
receive
your
input
on
this
and,
if
there's
anything
missing
where
you
thought
hey
kirby,
what
about
this?
B
Could
you
study
this
component
of
transportation,
the
region?
We
really
need
to
look
at
that,
then
we
can
also
program
that
in
to
our
strategic
plan,
I
just
want
to
stress
one
last
thing
before
I
turn
it
back
over
to
you
mayor,
and
that
is
that
this
is
not.
This
is
going
to
be
a
work
in
progress,
we'll
always
be
bringing
this
back
to
you,
we'll
always
be
taking
your
input.
B
Although
every
year
we
submit
a
plan,
that's
adopted
by
you
by
the
policy
committee,
we
we
can
always
amend
it
and
through
that
process,
but
we,
but
the
point
of
all
this
is
we
don't
want
to
be
looking?
We
don't
want
to
be
responsive.
We
don't
want
to
be
just
looking
at
12
months
in
the
future.
We
want
to
be
looking
at
several
years
in
the
future
and
how
are
we
spending
the
money
that
we're
getting
very
strategically
so
that
we
can
provide
the
best
information
for
the
city
for
the
county
for
the
region?
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
have
any
questions
you
know
just
so
I
can
make
a
last
comment,
because
I've
got
an
interview
that
I
need
to
take
and
judge
thunder
will
preside.
I
know
we
have
just
one
one
other
item
I
think
which
is
german
yet
to
adjourn
but
but
based
on
when
I
first
stepped
in
as
as
mayor
and
the
fdo
chair.
A
This
is
a
fast
fast,
huge
improvement.
Thank
you
so
much
you
know,
I
know
the
digital.
I
guess
technology
has
truly
improved
and
we're
now
making
use
of
it
here
right.
So
thank
you
again.
You
know
beforehand
I
mean
not
to
criticize
you
know
your
your
predecessors.
You
know
we
had
just
you
know
documents
everywhere.
A
You
know
you
know.
If
you
had
a
compile
or
prepare
a
report,
you
have
to
go
through
all
these
different
files
and
but
now
it's
just
so
so
easy
to
get
to
so
congratulations
and
thank
you
to
the
digital
improvements
that
we've
had
in
the
last
few
years
and
of
course
this
leads
to
transparency,
and
this
is
what
government
is
is
about
as
well.
You
know
we
need
to
be
open
and
transparent,
and
this
is
exactly
what
this
does.
I
thank
you
very
much.
D
B
That
is
something
that
I
think
you'll
you
might
find
reference
to
in
a
few
plans.
That's
not
something
that
the
npo
is
working
on
with
the
railroads,
that's
something
the
city
of
laredo
was
working
on.
I
will,
however,
say
that
that
what
was
proposed
is
going
to
require
literally
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars,
and
so
that
is
going
to
be
very,
very
dependent
on
whether
or
not
they're
able
to
get
funding
from
the
federal
government.
For
that,
and
I
mean
just
being
realistic,
my
guess
would
be
that's
something.
B
Maybe
we
could
see
you
know
in
20,
30
years
now,
politics
could
change
all
that
if
somebody
had
a
lot
of
money
they
wanted
to
put
to
that.
But
we
are
working
on
a
railroad
quiet
zone
that
will
make
improvements
along
with
the
kansas
city,
southern
line
at
all
of
the
at-great
crossings
or
nearly
all
the
upgrade
crossings.
B
But
the
idea
I
think
you're
talking
about
is
the
proposal
for
the
kansas
city
southern
line
to
raise
it
up
so
that
there
were
no
accurate
crossings
and,
like
I
mentioned
that's
going
to
be,
you
know
very,
very
expensive,
and
because
of
that
it
may
not
be
well.
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
not
likely
it's
just
it's
just
something
that
is
very
speculative
at
this
point,
because
it's
so
much
dependent
on
a
lot
of
money
that
we
don't
have.
D
B
Good,
yes
and
the
freight
logistics
infrastructure
plan
will
very
much
be
partnering
with
union
pacific
and
with
kansas
city
southern
to
be
talking
about
what
are
their
plans
for
growth,
so
I
had
that
call
with
them
a
couple
months
ago,
talking
about
okay,
here's
what
you're
doing
right
now?
What
are
what
are
you?
What
do
you
need
for
infrastructure
in
terms
of
the
future?
B
How
can
we
partner
with
you
on
that,
and
one
of
the
big
discussions
we
talked
about
was
where
you
see
union,
pacific
and
kansas
city,
southern
on
the
east
pacific,
on
the
north,
there
there
are
transit
stations.
There
are
depots,
there's
a
lot
of
planning.
We
can
do
to
make
sure
as
the
city
continues
to
grow,
we
don't
create
conflicts
around
those
and
we
have
the
proper
identities,
so
we're
definitely
curating
those
relationships
with
them.