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A
Good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
joining
us
I'm,
calling
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
the
Irate
of
urban
transportation
study
at
the
Metropolitan
Planning
Organization,
Policy,
Committee,
yeah
and
we're
meeting
here
at
city
council
chambers
at
11:10,
Houston
Street,
Laredo
Texas
today
is
July.
The
15th
give
me
20
19
and
it's
1,
1:45
p.m.
A
B
B
B
I'm
originally
from
Southeast
Texas
I
grew
up
in
a
family
of
10
kids,
big
family
I,
studied
out
of
state
pretty
normal
year.
Laredo
yeah
I've
got
some
more
stories
to
share
about
that.
I
have
six
older
sisters,
I
studied
out
of
state
and
I've
worked
in
I've
worked
in
six
different
states,
New
York,
California,
Iowa,
Illinois,
Texas
Utah.
B
Maybe
that's
more
than
six
I
also
spent
a
couple
years
in
in
London
England.
The
bulk
of
my
experience
is
as
a
consultant
as
a
private
consultant.
I've
worked
in
over
a
hundred
cities
across
the
United
States
and
fourteen
states,
and
then
previously
before
this
position,
I
was
a
city
planner,
and
one
of
the
larger
cities
in
Utah
and
I'm
excited
to
come
back
to
Texas
and
it's
great
to
be
back
among
Texans
I.
C
A
D
A
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
I
was
against
not
hurt.
Motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
item
B.
That's
a
Roman
numeral
for
beef
I
receive
public
testimony
and
initiate
attend
a
public
review
and
comment
period
for
the
following
proposed
amendments
at
2019,
2020
to
Transportation,
Improvement,
Program,
otherwise
known
as
a
tip
and
there's
there's
two
I'm.
E
D
F
What
we're
doing
here
we're
cleaning
up
a
bookkeeping
error
and
what
we're
doing,
if
y'all
can
recall,
we
decided
to
combine
direct
connector
5
project
with
the
shall
over
change
project,
so
we
combined
them
into
one
date
and
we
move
one
forward
and
one
backwards.
Direct
connector
went
from
system
19
of
fiscal
year.
Twenty
and
Scheidler
interchange
went
from
the
fifth
period
21
to
fiscal
year.
Twenty
thank.
A
A
D
A
E
A
Item
II
and
discussion
with
possible
action
on
the
River
Road
project
and
I
see
mr.
Medina,
you
care
to
say
a
few
words.
You've
been
kind
of
following
this
and
kind
of
spirit
hitting
yeah
sure
yeah,
yeah
I
think
my
understanding
is
is
that
mr.
Muller
Albert
Miller
senior
is
is
running
now
to
visit
with
some
of
us
being,
particularly
in
you
and
and
I've,
been
open.
You
know
whatever
day
you
want
to
schedule
that.
G
G
A
G
By
the
way,
this
orange
is
the
city
utilities
work
plan,
pickle
role
would
be
right
about
here
summer
and
our
properties
that
pink
line.
All
of
that
would
be
our
property,
and
this
green
area
will
be
la
water.
Everybody
all
the
way
from
you
guys
the
property
now
across
a
little
pick
her
out.
It's
on
line
to
donate
land,
so
pick
a
side
consider
and
they
were
Pangos.
Okay,
okay,
okay,.
G
A
H
Good
afternoon
mr.
chairman
Luis
Potosi
a
web
counting
engineer,
we
have
made
some
considerable
movement
on
the
project
milestones
since
we've
last
discussed
this.
We
have
met
with
the
city
of
Laredo
officials
and
discussed
the
unification
process
of
providing
a
unified
document
to
text
dot
between
Webb
County
and
the
city
of
Laredo
for
the
construction
of
the
entire
world.
Section
we've
also
held
a
public
meeting,
as
requested
at
your
fasiqun
Community
Center
that
was
held
last
week.
H
We
met
with
various
members
of
the
public,
including
officials
from
the
school
districts
and
various
other
groups
that
have
an
interest
in
this
area.
We
have
compiled
the
comments
that
were
made.
There
was
a
comment
box
that
was
prepared
and
was
stuffed
with
some
comments
from
various
different
entities.
We
are
compiling
the
comments
that
were
made
and
discussing
them
with
a
consultant
engineering
firm,
we're
moving
forward
with
that
process
in
the
objective
being
completing
the
environmental
document.
H
H
C
E
E
I
E
F
C
H
E
F
We
do
have
a
935
quarter
of
a
project
that
we're
looking
at
from
Shiloh
interchange,
all
the
way
up
north
to
milepost
28.
A
lot
of
those
parties
are
not
funded.
We
do
have
designers
on
board
right
now,
currently
designing
that
the
ones
that
are
funded
right
now
is
the
general
which
is
of
a
bigger
party
right
now.
F
There
is
a
plan
up
ahead
and
the
discussions
that
I
believe
we
had
with
the
county
and
the
city
was
that
once
the
rider
was
acquired
235,
there
was
gonna,
be
no
furniture
out
there,
so
we
can
move
forward
with
an
overpass.
It
is
not
funded.
We
do
not
have
funds
for
an
overpass
at
this
point.
We
are
certainly
looking
at
that
situation.
If
the
right
away
can
be
donated
at
a
width
of
400
feet,
I
think
that's
what
it
was
400.
H
K
F
And
currently
we
do
have
development
authority
which
allows
us
to
jump
ahead
and
start
designing
some
of
these
projects.
It
is
our
intent
and
they're
from
Uniroyal
back
and
north
that
and
every
mile
and
a
half
which
would
have
an
old
path,
some
ports
that
are
not
funded.
But
that's
what
I
planned
this
for
that
long
yeah,
so
that
it
would
help
us
out
tremendously.
We
could
have
quite
a
ride
away
then.
L
H
Discussion
initially
was
that
the
heavyweight
corridor
would
if
they
went
with
the
access
roads
first
or
maybe
some
rapid
deterioration
due
to
some
of
the
heavy
weights.
The
discussion
has
always
been
that
the
heavyweight
corridor
would
be
constructed
first,
so
that
we
don't
get
that
deterioration
on
the
unders.
C
D
A
H
H
Probably
have
a
little
here
an
expert
next
meeting
to
discuss
some
of
these
questions
a
year,
so
the
consultant
still
has
the
environmental
task
at
hand,
but
the
ultimate
scheme
of
how
the
heavyweight
and
the
various
different
access
roads
are
designed.
They'll
also
be
privy
to
that.
So
we
can
explore
some
of
these
in.
J
Utilized
more
than
anything
by
18,
wheelers
and
so
I
think
we
got
a
look
at
this
and
say:
okay,
what
comes
first?
What
comes
second,
that
that's
that's
not
really
of
consequence
here.
What's
of
consequence,
is
that
we're
building
it
the
correct
way
all
the
way
through,
because
whether
you're
turning
or
whether
there's
bumps
this
road
will
get
destroyed
quickly
by
the
weight
I
mean
that's
what
it's
intended
for,
and
so
through
a
design
perform
a
design
perspective.
J
H
A
H
J
H
E
H
A
C
H
And
well,
to
this
day,
if
certain
things
have
changed.
Yes,
it
sharpened
the
routier
section
coming
on
who
really
really
created
the
opportunity
to
do
a
lot
more
than
initially
was
planned,
which
would
go
through
the
industrial
parks
at
Unitec
and
the
achar
industrial
park.
The
Ruth's
intersection
added
considerably
to
the
project
and
has
made
it
a
much
more
viable
project,
we're
not
going
to
a
terminus.
We're
going
continue.
C
Moving
well,
it
was
always
going
to
it
always
considered
the
routing
here,
just
once
they
were
made
aware
and
we're
willing,
you
know,
come
on
board
which
they
did
right
away.
Yes,
I
just
you
know,
the
scope
has
changed
over
the
years
and,
like
I
say
you
know,
we
talked
about
doing
the
frontage
road,
doing
concrete
credits
roads
because
that's
where
you're
gonna
have
your
logo.
You
have
what
every
another
ten
fifteen
hundred
acre.
You
know,
industrial
lots,
lots.
C
D
E
C
D
N
Name
is
jennifer
palmer,
I'm
with
CDM
Smith
and
we're
doing
the
update
to
the
2020
through
2045
metropolitan
transportation
plan.
So
that's
the
long-range
transportation
plan
for
the
region
and
I'm
just
here
to
kind
of
give
you
an
update
on
an
overview
of
what
an
MTP
is.
So
you
guys
have
kind
of
a
background
knowledge
on
what
we've
on
what
we've
been
doing.
Why
we
do
it
and
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
to
date
as
well
as
some
of
the
work?
N
So
that's
pretty
much.
My
my
overview
for
today
we'll
go
through
what
an
MTP
is,
if
you're
not
as
familiar
with
it,
key
components
of
that
process.
The
role
of
the
policy
committee,
as
well
as
the
Technical
Advisory
Committee,
which
we
met
with
this
morning
as
well
relevant
federal
requirements
that
we
have
to
meet
for
this
plan
so
that
you
can
maintain
funding
and
then
just
a
little
bit
of
overview
of
our
schedule
and
our
next
steps.
N
So
what
is
an
MTP?
An
MTP
is
a
twenty
five-year
horizon
plan.
It's
updated
every
five
years.
It's
a
federal
requirement
for
the
MPO
receiving
they're
thought
monies
for
federally
funded
projects.
It's
required
under
law
and
and
funded
it's
prepared
by
the
MPO
and
it's
adopted
by
the
policy
committee.
We
work
with
a
whole
wide
array
of
stakeholders
and
public
in
developing
these
plans.
This
2045
update
is
a
minor
update
as
what
they
call
it.
N
So
every
ten
years
you
do
a
major
overhaul
and
major
update,
but
the
minor
update
is
supposed
to
be
reviewing
the
progress
that's
been
made
since
the
last
MTP
was
updated
and
also
make
sure
that
you're
adhering
to
any
new
federal
laws
and
regulations,
so
there's
two
kind
of
key
components
to
them.
Tp
process
one
is
technical
and
the
other
is
a
public
process.
N
So
the
technical
analysis
includes
things
like
travel
demand,
modeling,
which
we
do
in
concert
with
texts,
odd,
identifying
a
whole
array
of
needs
that
we
need
for
all
different
modes
of
transportation
on
the
region
and
then
ultimately
identifying
a
list
of
long
range
projects
and
a
25-year
span.
So
it's
a
really
big
picture,
as
opposed
to
your
tip.
That's
looking
at
your
five-year
immediate
plan
in
terms
of
the
public
process,
we
go
through
a
whole
lot
in
order
to
obtain
public
input
we
held
in
the
fall.
We
held
some
kickoff
public
meetings.
N
We
held
two
of
those.
We
also
conducted
some
some
focus
group
meetings
on
specific
subjects
with
agency
representatives
and
other
other
agency
members
to
get
their
opinions
on
things
like
Freight,
on
multimodal
transportation
and
bicycle
pedestrian,
access
on
ites
improvements
and
and
things
that
would
that
would
help
the
region
move
forward
in
a
variety
of
different
ways
in
terms
of
transportation,
and
we
gather
all
of
that
to
come
up
with
some
goals
and
objectives
that
are
going
to
guide
the
decision-making
and
how
we
ultimately
prioritize
projects
in
the
region
to
meet
those
things.
N
The
Technical
Review
Committee
is
super
important
in
this
in
terms
of
providing
technical
oversight.
The
MPO
is
actively
involved
in
that,
as
well
as
a
whole
array
of
members
of
different
agencies
within
within
the
Laredo
region,
so
that
we
get
a
diverse
number
of
perspectives,
but
also
they
help
before
we
come
back
to
you
as
the
policy
committee
in
guiding
the
goals
objectives
of
the
plan
and
making
sure
that
we
have
an
accurate
and
complete
list
of
potential
projects
over
the
25
year
span,
both
funded
and
unfunded.
N
It's
really
to
get
a
whole
sense
of
the
needs
and
in
making
sure
that
we're
developing
some
performance
measures
so
that
we
can
see
in
the
next
five
years
and
then
an
annual
kind
of
basis
how
the
NPO
is
doing
at
achieving
those
goals
and
objectives,
as
we
do
that
with
the
Technical
Advisory
Committee,
to
get
recommendations
and
to
confirm
some
of
the
things
that
we
get
through
all
this
outreach,
then
we
come
back
to
you
as
the
policy
committee
and
so
that
you
can.
You
know,
confirm
that
those
recommendations
are
accurate.
N
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
a
good
part
of
this
MTP
process
has
a
lot
of
federal
regulations
and
requirements
to
it,
and
since
the
last
MTP
was
developed,
the
fast
Act
was
was
adopted
on
the
federal
side
for
a
federal
transportation
law
and
there
there
came
with
that.
A
number
of
new
provisions
that
we
need
to
make
sure
updated
in
this
MTP.
So
this
slide
just
kind
of
shows
the
ten
planning
factors
that
you
need
to
make
sure
considered
in
your
MTP
process
and
they
range
from.
N
As
you
can
see,
you
know:
economic
vitality
to
travel
and
tourism.
Resiliency
and
reliability
is
a
new
one
that
was
added
on
and
really
focusing
in
on
system
preservation
on
the
operation
and
management
of
your
infrastructure.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
this
MTP
showing
that
we're
meeting
all
of
these
ten
planning
factors
when
we're
developing
goals
and
objectives
for
the
region.
A
Yeah,
but
from
a
more
a
practical
standpoint
at
what
point,
within
this
25-year
period,
do
we
start
focusing
on
right-of-ways
because
really
you're
aligning
certain
road
projects
whatever,
because
that's
that's
usually
my
experience
has
been
that
you
know
we.
You
know
we
wait
so
long.
You
know
a
Costco.
Well,
you
know,
improvements
are
actually
done
within
those
perceived
brighter
ways,
and
so
the
sooner
we
can
identify
those
corridors.
I
think
that
you
know
what
save
us
a
lot
of
time
money.
You
know
these
projects
with.
A
N
And
that's
really
the
purpose
as
we
get
into
a
long-range
transportation
plan,
is
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
more
proactive
in
those
things,
and
so
as
projects
are
identified,
and
they
really
get
identified
by
you
by
the
public,
by
our
coordination
with
text
dot
and
the
initiatives
that
they
have
going
on,
as
well
as
full
coordination
with
all
the
different
transportation
agencies
in
the
region,
and
we
come
up
with
this
list
of
projects.
But
we
can
also
come
up
with
some
assumptions
about
from
historic.
N
N
It
has
those
assumptions
in
there
and
there's
a
lot
more
focus
on
this
federal
planning
and
now
on
performance,
metrics
and
those
are
really
going
to
help
you
in
looking
on
an
annual
basis
with
text
odd
and
and
others
at
how
well
you're
performing
against
some
actual
quantifiable
performance
data.
And
some
of
those
could
be
these
cost
factors
that
you
mentioned
too.
N
So
this
performance
based
approach
without
going
into
all
of
the
weeds
and
details
with
a
the
idea,
I'll
show
the
pretty
picture
of
it
is,
is
this
you
know
you
decide
where
you
want
to
go
in
a
big
picture,
sense
from
your
goals
and
objectives,
and
and
from
that
you
develop
some
performance
measures.
How
are
we
going
to
know
if
we're
successful
in
doing
that,
and
then
you
also
establish
some
performance
targets
of
what
do
we
want
to
be?
J
N
The
goals
and
objectives
we've
taken
from
the
public
involvement.
The
previous
MTP
update
the
focus
group
meetings
that
we've
held,
and
we
have
some
draft
goals
and
objectives
that
I
can
share
with
you
as
well
we're
going
through
those
with
the
Technical
Advisory
Committee
now
and
then,
when
we
bring
those
to
you
for
formal
adoption,
you.
D
N
A
If
you
will
doctoral,
you
know,
I
just
made
a
comment
to
the
judge,
maybe
mr.
Kirby
and
Rhonda
Tiffin
being
the
planners.
You
know
Rhonda
being
the
the
planner
for
the
county
and
you
for
the
city
you
know,
can
you
know,
can
a
prize
you
know
can
start
developing.
You
know
concepts
or
whatever
as
to
how
you
foresee
in
our
city
and
next
you
know,
say:
10
15,
20
years
he's.
B
Well,
mostly,
that's
coming
from
Viva
la
rata
plan
and
some
of
the
things
that
were
already
that
the
we
had
a
great
amount
of
participation
and
what
citizen
said
they
want
we're
gonna
incorporate
that
in
so
we're
gonna
be
working
that
down
and
then
we're
gonna
bring
that
to.
You
then
say:
does
this
cover?
Does
this
a
good
reflection.
J
Of
the
goals,
everybody
that
ello
plan
helps
with
design
of
roads,
but
not
necessarily
with
where
we
want
the
roads
to
end
up
right
and
and
so
I
think.
There's
a
I
think
the
long-range
thoroughfare
plan
is
the
appropriate
place
to
look
for
that
and
I.
Think
council
just
moved
to
actually
get
the
long-range
thoroughfare
plan,
updated
and
ASAP,
and
so
that's
why
it's
so
important,
because
we're
making
goals
for
federal
funding
we
need
to
have
an
incorporated
of
plan
through
the
city
of
Laredo
so
that
those
goals
align.
J
If
not,
then
we
can
make
any
plans
we
want
to
and
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
incorporate
into
some
of
these
larger
scale
plans
that
we're
doing,
and
so
it's
very
important
that
we
get
this
done,
which
is
why
I
was
asking
about
the
process
when
we
can
get
this
in.
Can
we
bring
them
some
new
ideas?
J
Are
there
some
new
roads
there's
a
lot
of
new
development,
that's
occurring
on
the
north
side
and
a
lot
of
new
developments
occurring
on
the
south
side,
a
lot
of
development
in
Webb
County,
and
so
things
have
changed
from
the
last
five
years
to
now
significantly
and
I.
Think
the
goals
of
the
city
and
the
goals
of
the
county
I
think
have
changed
over
the
last
five
years
and
so
I
hope
I'm,
not
speaking
out
of
turn
here
for
the
county.
J
But
now,
but
there
is,
there
are
some
changes
and
so
having
this
plan
through
the
city
and
hopefully
through
Webb
County,
updated,
so
that
we
know
where
these
roads
are
going
to
be
how
they're
going
to
be
built
and
why
we're
doing
it,
then
we
can
incorporate
it
into
this.
So
I
don't
want
to
turn
this
in
until
we
have
basically
updated
our
plans
as
well
on
the
city
side,
that's
my
and.
A
Also,
typically,
from
the
standpoint
of
time,
blind
forest,
you
know
what's
limiting
to
us
and
obviously
sewer
and
water
and
development
and
the
extension
those
lines
have
in
place.
So,
although
that
kind
of
kicks
in
and
and
okay
but
you're
the
expert
in
the
answer,
no,
you
guide
us
and
mr.
Kirby
and
of
course,
I'm
under.
B
Tiffany
house
my
rules,
MPO
director
I,
will
be
very
involved
in
that
and
we're
gonna
be
adding,
don't
know
we
didn't
talk
much
about
it,
but
but
with
the
unified
work
plan,
we're
gonna
be
I'm,
proposing
to
use
the
money
that
we
are
getting
from
tech
stock
to
actually
have
staff
on
board.
So
we
have
a
GIS
planner.
We
have
a
transportation
planner
we'll
have
a
active
transportation,
planner
and
we'll
have
additional
admin
to
actually
have
a
group
like
most
mpos
do
or
we
can
start
really
diving
down
and
owning
the
data
owners.
A
B
A
great
point-
and
we
will
we're
gonna
work
closely
with
our
partners
with
text
not
with
the
county
and
and
move
forward
in
that
you
ask
the
question,
specifically
dr.
tease
about
the
goals,
so
this
is
two
parts.
The
goals
are
somewhat
separate
from
the
actual
planning
for
the
road
which
what
she's
also
going
to
get
to
and
and
that's
a
process
to
that
we're
gonna
actually
will
have
a
list
of
possible
projects
that
could
receive
funding
from
the
from
monies
that
would
come
through
this.
So
you.
A
Have
a
simplified
version
of
it
now
keep
in
mind,
we
have
83,
we
have
three
59
59
and
then
35
and
a
Road
and
all
the
others
over
here
you
know.
Obviously
we
need
corridors
connecting
to
those
somewhere
somehow,
because
those
were
the
access
points
to
our
city
and
and
the
expansion
of
proposed
development.
The
future
but
I
mean
suddenly
somehow
that's
all.
Oh,
you
know
they
have
to
be
prioritized
and
see
what
areas
they
need
to
come
first
and
then
develop
accordingly.
N
As
we
mentioned
before,
the
the
goals
and
objectives
are
really
the
starting
place,
and
it
sounds
like
you
guys
are.
You
guys
have
been
talking
a
whole
lot
on
the
project
end,
which
is
the
end
result
of
where
we're
gonna
get
to
just
to
touch
really
high
level
on
some
of
the
public
involvement
that
we've
done
to
date.
As
I
mentioned,
we
did
two
public
meetings
in
the
fall.
We
also
have
conducted
some
focus
group
meetings
with
different
representatives
within
the
community.
N
Obviously,
as
with
many
places,
frustrated
with
traffic
congestion,
we
heard
a
lot
about
balancing
the
freight
traffic
with
quality
of
life
concerns.
So
you
know
safety
incidents,
end
up
becoming
forefront
of
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
we
received:
interactions
with
communities
and
freight
traffic
investing
and
more
transportation
options.
A
N
Are
just
the
common
themes
that
we
heard
from
the
public
as
you
start
to
develop
these
goals
and
objectives
they
should
be
surrounded.
You
know
they
should
really
be
built
on
the
things
that
you
hear
and
then
you
start
developing
once
you
have
these
goals.
Well,
we
want
something
that
actually
balances
these
things.
N
Now,
what
are
our
objectives
to
get
there
and
then
what
are
the
projects
that
are
actually
going
to
get
us
there
and
how
are
we
gonna
measure
it
once
once,
we've
gotten
there
to
know
that
we
were
successful,
so
we're
kind
of
you
know
with
these
goals,
really
establish
a
big-picture
framework,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
going
over.
These
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
heard.
No
one
gives
solutions
to
these
problems.
N
Obviously
you
guys
know
this
when,
when
we
solicit
feedback
from
from
members
of
the
public,
we
hear
a
lot
of
what
their
frustrations
are
and
things
like
that.
But
we
don't
necessarily
hear
these
solutions.
However,
they
do
help
us
to
formulate
what
our
goals
should
be.
You
know
our
goal
should
be
to
tackle
these
problems
that
we're
hearing
time
and
time
again,
that's.
E
N
I
think
there's
there's
a
variety
of
there's:
a
variety
of
strategies
that
need
to
be
undertaken
from
a
regional
perspective.
If
you're
trying
to
balance
those
things,
I
think
that
some
of
it
has
to
do
with
land
use
decisions,
you
know.
So
if
you
have
heavy
freight
corridors,
we
were
talking
about
this
thoroughfare
plan
that
that
get
identified
as
as
being
kind
of
the
connectors.
N
E
E
I
mean
I,
know
we're
talking
about
25
years
down
the
road
you
know,
but
right
now
we
have
a
project,
that's
going
to
go
underway
here
before
long
and
if
that's
the
situation,
it's
still
you
know
people
are
still
going
to
be
on
that
secure.
You
know
on
having
those
kind
of
problems,
so
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
could
avoid
those
kind
of
yeah.
N
B
B
Was
very
good,
except
for
one
of
y'all
y'all
armed
traffic
engineers.
This
is
not.
You
know
you.
You
are
trained
in
this
field
to
do
that
and
that's
understandable.
We
don't
want
transportation
engineers
to
make
all
of
our
decisions.
The
whole
point
of
the
MPO
is
to
have
local
planning
and
local
oversight
when
federal
and
state
dollars
are
spent,
so
you're
doing
your
job
by
coming
in
here
and
not
being
a
professional
transportation
planner.
So
it's
okay
to
ask
questions
be
curious,
but
you
do
need
a
certain
amount
of
knowledge,
and
so
you
asked
can't.
B
Isn't
there
some
time
we
could
get
some
training
to
you
know
kind
of
not
have
to
maybe
the
learning
curve
isn't
so
long
or
maybe
we
can
be
reminded
of
some
things
so
I'll
talk
about
that
at
the
end
about
a
possibility
to
do
some
of
that
either
individually
as
a
group.
But
the
point
is
you
want
to
be
able
to
have
that
information
so
that
you
can
make
the
right
decisions
and,
as
a
city
we're
making
transportation
decisions,
we
have
a
traffic
department
there,
the
planning
department,
Department.
B
We
make
those
this
the
MTP,
the
Metropolitan
Transportation
Plan
for
funding
is
about.
The
federal
government
is,
is
putting
dollars
techstop
dollars
into
our
hands
and
what
are
the
strings
attached
and
that's
what
they're
they
want
to
make
sure
that
that
money
is
not
just
spent
in
a
way,
that's
irresponsible.
So
the
the
point
of
this
plan
is
to
make
sure
our
goals
are
aligned
with
theirs
and
we're
spending
their
money
on
projects
that
they
would
agree
with,
with
with
the
priorities
that
they've
set.
So
it's.
B
This
is
not
the
opportunity
to
figure
out
all
of
our
transportation
plans
for
the
future.
That's
what
we
have
the
general
plan
for
that's
what
we
have
our
thoroughfare
plan
that
were
going
to
be
updating
snow
future
use,
so
this
is
not
going
to
cover
the
whole
question
of
how
transportation
occurs
in
the
city
and
the
region.
This
is
specifically
about
where
the,
where
money's
going
to
come
in
and
could
be
spent
two
things
one.
What
are
the
goals
of?
B
Why
are
we
spending
this
money
and
number
two
will
actually
develop
a
project
list
of
potential
projects
where
monies
could
be
spent.
She's
gonna
get
there,
she
doesn't
got
there
yet
and
that's
where
it
gets
a
little
more
specific
on
actual
road
lengths,
and
you
know,
adding
additional
lanes
are
working
on
intersections
or
road
improvements
or
bicycle
lanes,
pedestrian
improvements,
all
the
we're
going
to
have
an
actual
list
of
projects
that
we
can
review
and
that
will
get
more
detailed
to
that
context.
Help
mr.
F
That's
part
of
the
MTP
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
it
can
get
narrow
down
to
more
specific,
the
four-year
tip
which
those
are
actually
funded.
Those
are
going
to
go,
but
working
through
this
plan
like
them
like
this,
the
ladies
explain
it
to
us
is
we
program
for
the
future?
You
know
the
outer
loops
and
stuff,
we
start
planning,
we
start
trying
to
get
to
that
process,
which
is
something
that
we're
doing
and
because
of
the
MPO
established
with
the
city.
F
The
tech
stop
cannot
come
and
literally
for
something
that
say
this
is
what
you
do,
because
that's
what
we're
we're
gonna
work
together.
The
federal
dollars
that
we're
getting
on
the
cat
sevens
was
enforced,
either
with
a
pseudonym
anything
with
the
range
of
the
MPO
we're
gonna,
come
to
you
saying
this
is
work
plan,
but.
J
N
So
one
of
the
so
you
know
as
I
think
it's
been
mentioned
a
few
times
now,
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
federal
requirements
that
go
into
this
MTP
and
as
you
mentioned,
you
know
this
is
a
continuous
process,
so
you
guys
continue
to
make
updates
to
the
MTP
over
time.
It's
a
living
document,
it's
not
like
it
gets
done,
and
we're
done
and
I'll
see
you
in
five
years.
N
But
one
of
the
changes
that
we
do
have
to
update
as
part
of
this
plan
based
on
the
new
federal
requirements,
is
as
a
focus
on
performance
based
planning
and
yeah.
I
had
a
couple
graphs,
and
things
like
that
show,
but
but
the
the
bottom
line
is
that
once
we
have
these
goals
and
objectives
solidified,
we
come
up
with
actual
performance
measures.
At
the
very
beginning
of
the
year.
You
guys
actually
adopted
some
techstop
performance
measures
and
targets,
and
those
are
two
different
things.
N
The
measures
are
the
general
ways
in
which
we're
going
to
look
at
things
so
from
safety
to
travel,
time,
reliability
and
their
quantifiable
measures
that
we
look
at
for
each
of
these
things
and
then
tex
todd
has
established
at
a
statewide
level,
reductions
that
they
would
like
to
see
in
crash
rates,
for
instance,
and
what
their
targets
are
in
the
next
five
years
for
doing
a
lot
of
these
things.
So
those
performance
metrics
have
been
established
and
adopted
by
by
the
policy
committee
so
far,
so
those
will
be
incorporated
into
the
plan.
N
Similarly,
you
know-
maybe
some
of
these
techstop
measures
measure
everything
that
we
need
to
know
about
the
system
right,
but
but
chances
are
that
some
of
these
things,
the
frustration,
the
more
qualitative
things
that
have
to
do
with
you
know,
quality
of
life
issues
and
stuff,
like
that,
we
have
to
figure
out
what
their
performance
targets
are
going
to
be
in
the
performance.
Metrics
are
going
to
be
that
we
look
at
so
that's
part
of
this
process
too,
and
then
you
have
a
document.
J
B
N
B
E
I
believe
so,
yes,
a
years
ago,
we're
never
doing
through
that
process
and
the
reason
why
I
bring
up
my
question
it's
just
for
that.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
25
years.
I
understand
25
years
down
the
road,
but
if
I
just
don't
want
to
start
approving
stuff
up
here,
especially
now
that
we're
fixing
to
incubate
or
it's
in
the
incubator
stage,
I
think
our
arms
are
Road.
Sorry
yeah,
sorry.
C
E
Truth
danger
road,
I,
don't
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
mean
equation.
I
gave
you
and
doc
is
correct
on
the
fact
that
we
don't
want
to
start
something
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
enough
cement
or
it's
not
the
base.
It's
not
correct,
or
you
know
we
there's
gonna
be
too
much
traffic
a
lot
of
heavy
traffic
on
there
and
my
dad
says
it
best.
We
always
start
something
that
seems
like
a
year
later.
We're
fixing
it
and
why?
Why
can't
we
just
plan
it
correctly
and
I.
N
N
And
I
think
it's
a
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point.
I,
you
know
I,
you
know
the
the
MTP
itself
is
going
to
help
set
the
stage
for
some
of
those
things
and
so
that
you
have
kind
of
a
longer
range
idea
of
what's
going
on,
so
that
you
can
do
the
planning
in
advance
and
not
have
it
lingering
out.
But
some
of
the
things
that
that
Kirby
mentioned
about
having
more
data
analyst
that
you're
regularly
reporting
on
are
gonna
be
super
important
to
that
two.
B
C
Has
it
always
been
okay,
but
what's
the
the
most
bang
for
the
buck,
you
know
as
far
as
traffic
lanes
or
traffic
miles
traversed
and
you
know,
or
accident
reduction
I
mean
I.
Remember
mr.
McGee
appeared
the
other
day
talking
about
you,
know
vientos,
and
how
he's
already
done
the
study
and
different
things
like
that,
so
I
don't
know:
what's
really
changed
the
stuff
now
we're
talking
bicycles
and
you
know,
walking
trails
and
different
things.
Hooters
yeah.
F
Just
basically
to
answer
your
question:
mr.
Gailey,
it
has
been
an
ongoing
process
that
we
worked
through
with
safety
of
the
almost
in
front
of
everything.
Unfortunately,
don't
have
the
funny
to
take
care
of
all
the
issues
that
we
have
within
the
city,
so
we
kind
of
prioritize
based
on
the
performance
measures
and
our
planning
trying
to
get
the
biggest
bang
for.
B
C
B
A
good
question,
because
that
makes
sense,
but-
and
there
was
a
day
when
Pharaoh
Graham
would
just
come
in
and
build
roads-
and
you
know
maybe
strike
a
deal
with
a
private
landowner.
I
mean
those
were
several
decades
ago.
We've
gotten
from
there
to
now.
In
2015,
we
had
the
fast
act
where
we've
all
agreed
that
the
better
way
to
do
the
process
is
to
have
an
agreed-upon
metrics
that
were
using
to
say
when
we
should
invest
millions
and
sometimes
billions
of
dollars
into
our
into
our
local
economies
and
transportation.
B
We
should
be
measuring
the
right
things
and,
and
maybe
all
the
time,
maybe
the
number-one
thing
isn't
vehicle
flow.
Maybe
it's
maybe
it's
safety,
and
maybe
we
need
to
consider
multimodal
not
just
vehicle
traffic.
Maybe
we
need
to
that,
doesn't
mean
make
it
all
for
bikes,
but
maybe
we
should
spend
a
few
percentage
points
of
the
money,
we're
spending
on
other
modes
of
traffic
so
that
other
people
can
get
around
older
people
or
children.
So
now
we
have
that
with
a
fast
eques
we
have
some
other.
B
A
K
Great
so
thanks
for
having
me
here,
my
name
is
Steven
Duong
I'm
a
vice
president
urban
planning,
with
a
firm
called
AECOM
I'm
based
out
of
Dallas,
so
I'm
here.
To
give
you
all
kind
of
introduction
a
little
update
to
a
project.
We
are
working
on
and
contractually
obligated
to
the
north
central
Texas
Council
of
Governments
Dallas,
fourth
area
NPO,
but
we're
also
collaborating
with
mr.
Kirby
and
five
other
mpos
along
the
I-35
corridor.
On
and
I
want
to
note
that
in
the
agenda
it
says
the
project
title
is
actually
high
speed
rail.
K
The
what
we're
trying
to
work
at
is
a
couple
different
things,
one
which
technology
should
we
seriously
consider
in
the
state
of
Texas,
specifically
along
this
35
corridor,
between
Dallas
forth
to
Laredo
going
into
the
future,
knowing
that
the
paradigm
of
Technology
around
transportation
is
rapidly
shifting?
The
second
is
depending
on
which
technologies
we
want
to
consider.
K
Sorry
Oh
study
area
for
this
one.
Yes,
so
technically
our
study
boundaries
go
from
the
dallas-fort
Worth
area
to
Laredo.
However,
we
are
studying
in
such
a
way
that
all
the
options
were
looking
at,
for
both
patterns
are
frayed,
do
not
preclude
going
into
Mexico.
However,
our
formal
study
boundary
ends
at
elevator,
because.
A
C
K
E
C
E
K
E
K
I'm
not
in
our
scope.
That
is
not
the
case
in
our
scope.
We
were
specifically
identifying
the
35
from
Radio
to
dallas-fort
worth
so.
The
history
of
this
project,
actually,
which
I
was
about
to
describe,
is
a
environmental
study.
This
completed,
completed
in
2017
called
the
Texas
Oklahoma
passenger
rail
study,
and
that
study
specifically
was
from
Laredo
up
to
Oklahoma
City.
So
our
study
is
in
some
ways
a
continuation
of
that.
What
we
call
it
is
sort
of
a
bridging
study.
K
The
idea
is
that,
before
that
environmental
study
proceeds
to
what
we
call
a
tier
2
EIS,
which
is
more
in-depth,
we
want
to
update
the
findings
of
the
original
study
to
include
the
viability
of
new
technologies
that
were
not
mature
enough
to
be
considered
in
the
original
study.
So
the
original
a
is
completed
2017,
it
specifically
only
studied
high-speed
rail.
Our
job
is
to
then
pose
the
question.
K
I
do
yeah,
ok,
this
in
a
minute.
The
primary
question
that
we're
looking
to
ask
are
whether
the
technology
specifically
high-speed
rail
in
the
original
topper
study
is
the
only
technology
that
should
be
considered
coming
forward,
or
should
it
be
an
expanded
list?
We
haven't
answered
that
question.
That's
the
the
purpose
of
this
study,
any
other
question
before
I
continue
on
and
you
feel
free
to
ask
as
as
I
go
on,
so
the
a
couple
things
that
I
want
to
emphasize
about
this
study.
K
One
is
that
we
are
coming
at
this
from
a
technology
neutral
standpoint.
We
understand
that
high-speed
rail
is
extremely
well
understood.
Around
the
world
has
been
built,
has
an
excellent
safety
track
record.
However,
there
are
new
technologies
that
get
people
really
excited,
namely
Hyperloop
is
one
that
gets
a
lot
of
public
airtime,
especially
in
Texas.
So,
despite
one
being
really
mature
and
one
being
very
new
and
exciting,
we
are
treating
all
the
technologies
kind
of
from
the
same
level.
K
As
time
goes
on,
so
our
studies
in
today
to
complete
just
around
the
turn
of
the
new
calendar
here
we
began
this
March
and
where
we're
at
right
now
was
we've
kind
of
collected
most
of
the
data,
we
think
we
knew
we
need
to
further
the
study
and
we
are
visiting
all
six
MPOs
along
the
35
corridor
that
we
engage
with
to
kind
of
let
them
know
these
are
the
technologies
we're
looking
at.
This
is
kind
of
the
assumptions
we
are
making
about
these
technologies
as
we
go
and
further
evaluate
them.
K
K
We
will
come
back
to
you
for
a
formal
presentation,
much
like
this
one,
to
tell
you
what
our
evaluation
of
these
technologies
are
and
their
compatibility
with
the
greater
larae
Terraria.
However,
we
expect
to
be
engaged
with
you
throughout
the
summer
in
the
fall.
Should
you
have
questions?
And,
more
importantly,
should
you
want
to
provide
input
to
us
on
things?
We
should
really
keep
in
mind
as
we
consider
the
viability
of
these
technologies.
K
This
is
another
more
closer
detailed,
look
kind
of
a
week-by-week.
Our
hope
is
that
we
will
re-engage
you
in
a
more
formal
context
in
the
beginning
october,
pending
schedules
and
availability,
and
we
expect
we
do
these
meetings
with
all
the
impose
and
kind
of
round.
So
we
consider
this
our
first
round
of
engagements
with
all
the
six
MPOs.
K
The
second
round
of
meetings
is,
is
the
October
time
frame
and
then
the
hope
is
that,
should
you
agree
with
our
initial
findings
and
I
kind
of
emphasize
right
here,
actually
that
our
findings
won't
necessarily
say
a
specific
technology
is
the
most
viable
in
laredo.
Our
hope
is
that,
in
the
study
we
say
based
on
the
way
these
technologies
are
maturing
and
the
cost
curves
of
how
they're
being
deployed.
We
think
these
are
worth
considering
going
forward
into
the
future,
and
so.
D
K
K
K
But
but
they
are,
the
private
sector
is
interested.
Hence
this
study
it
exists
and
we'll
get
into
the
technologies
in
just
a
minute
towards
the
end,
so
the
technology
that
we
are
formally
considering
in
this
study
and
I'll
go
over
each
of
them
quickly
and
answer
some
questions
about
them.
I
mentioned
a
couple
them
already.
Hyperloop
is
the
one
I
think
that
gets
the
most
air
time.
They
have
stated
publicly
that
the
Laredo
Dallas
Forth
corridor
is
one
of
their
ten
priority
areas
in
the
entire
world
for
initial
Hyperloop
implementation.
K
That
is
a
sentiment
echoed
by
many
Hyperloop
companies,
not
just
merchants
heart,
big
one
and
Elon
Musk's
SpaceX.
Several
companies
have
made
that
statement.
Also
we're
also
looking
at
maglev,
which
is
a
form
of
high-speed
rail,
obviously
using
magnetic
propulsion
to
move
at
high
speeds.
Traditional
high
speed
rail,
which
is
what
you
see
happening
between
Dallas
and
Houston,
which
is
a
high-speed
rail,
but
it
doesn't
use
magnets.
K
It
just
uses
wheels
on
a
track
at
high
speeds:
regional
rail,
which
is
the
essentially
equipment
of
Amtrak,
which
I'm
sure
you're
familiar
with
and
then
guaranteed
transit,
which
is
actually
a
really
new
concept.
Guarantee
transit
is
essentially
a
high-speed
or
I
would
say
high
in
bus
that
moves
in
a
dedicated
lane,
often
a
managed
lane
or
an
HOV
Lane,
and
it
is
using
dynamic
pricing
in
that
Lane
to
control
the
time
and
speed
of
that
bus
in
that
Lane.
K
The
idea
and
where
the
name
guaranteed
comes
from
is
that
one
for
the
rider
you
are
guaranteed
to
arrive
to
your
destination
of
your
origin
in
a
specific
time,
and
that
is
meant
to
be
guaranteed
financially
by
that
dynamic
pricing
system.
So
if
you
as
a
writer,
are
set
to
arrive
at
a
specific
destination,
let's
say
at
9
a.m.
and
your
bus
using
that
dedicated
Lane
arrives
at
9:05.
K
You
receive
a
financial
refund
on
your
entire
trip,
and
the
idea
is
that
you
use
a
dynamic
pricing
system
and
a
managed
lane
to
control
the
conditions
around
the
corridor
to
ensure
it
guaranteed
transit
time.
So
the
new
concept
that
is
meant
to
be
affordable,
flexible
and
sort
of
a
complement
to
other
kind
of
BRT
type
of
concepts
you
see
being
deployed.
C
K
K
D
C
K
C
K
Right
so
part
of
our
evaluation
will
be
to
say
where
the
pros
and
cons
and
benefits
of
these
system,
how
did
they
stack
up
and
then
to
create
a
whole
system
that
actually
makes
sense
along
35
corridor?
How
does
this
play
out
because
we
realized,
technically,
you
could
do
let's
say:
Hyperloop
and
garetty
trans
between
Laredo
and
San
Antonio
then
switch
to
something
else
between
the
cities,
but
that
would
cause
you
to
have
more
force
transfers
as
a
passenger
having
to
move
between
system.
So
you
lose
a
lot
of
the
benefit
of
the
speed.
K
K
Exactly
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
be
evaluating,
however,
it
will
also
look
at
options
such
as,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
way
heartbeat
works,
it
is
always
intended
to
be
point-to-point.
So,
as
you
pass
by
a
city,
there's
always
an
express
route
and
a
intermediate
stop
that
stops
and,
let's
say,
San
Antonio
in
your
case.
K
So
even
if
you
added
stops,
you
would
not
actually
have
a
performance
to
the
system
because
there's
always
a
bypass
Express
rail,
so
that
is
a
potential
theoretical
I
emphasize
advantage
of
Hyperloop
compared
to
let's
say
traditional
high
speed
rail,
but
we
know
that
that
is
clearly
at
this
point
theoretical,
since
the
technology
has
not
yet
been
employed
in
the
States
at
a
fully
functioning
system.
So
those
are
the
pros
and
cons
will
be
weighing
as
we
kind
of
evaluate
the
viability
of
these
technologies
going
forward.
This
pours.
K
We're
at
this
level
we
aren't
saying
whether
you
should
or
should
not
use
a
specific
right
away.
What
we'll
be
looking
at
is:
does
the
general
I
35
corridor
make
sense
from
an
engineering
perspective
of
these
technologies?
So
if
you're
moving
in
a
certain
speed
with
those
those
kind
of
specified,
turn
radiuses
and
horizontal
and
vertical
clearances,
does
it
make
sense,
then
we'll
look
at
other
utility
corridors
and
other
general
chords
you
say:
does
any
of
these
actually
provide
the
right
environment
for
these
technology
deployed?
If
it
does
is
worth
considering?
K
If
it
does
not,
it
should
probably
be
taken
off
the
table,
so
we're
not
getting
to
the
level.
What
we're
saying
this
particular
right
away
is
better
or
worse,
or
you
should
use
this
right
away.
We're
kind
of
using
the
term
corridors.
This
general
corridor
is
viable.
This
corridor
is
likely
not
liable
for
XYZ
technologies
as.
A
K
All
the
technologies
exist
in
some
form,
except
for
heart
bloom.
Now,
heart
loop
does
exist
technically.
However,
it's
only
in
a
test
track
in
Nevada
right
now
built
by
virgin
heart
b1.
It's
a
500
meter
test
track
in
which
the
system
is
currently
operating
at
about
230
miles
an
hour.
So
how
are
they
are
currently
considering
Texas
Missouri
and
the
Midwest
for
a
5-mile
certification
test
track
so
that
Elaine
Charles
and
new
Commission
on
emerging
technology
can
certify
the
technology
for
deployment
that.
K
There's
also
a
test
track
in
construction
outside
of
Paris
in
France,
there's
only
two
in
the
world
currently
for
hype.
Early
high
speed,
rail
and
maglev
operate
obviously
everywhere
the
world,
as
probably
very
likely
the
most
extensive
system.
Japan
is
generally
the
producer
that
technology,
though,
and
Amtrak
and
regional
rail,
occur
they're
everywhere
sure
so
I
want
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
K
I
think
I'm,
not
gonna
dive
into
the
technical
specs
of
each
of
these
analogies,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
all
one
a
little
bit
of
time
to
ask
me
questions
about
these
technologies,
but
also
to
the
whole
point
of
our
study,
a
significant
part
of
this
to
gather
input
from
you
all
generous
in
one.
Are
you
interested
in
the
technologies
and
two?
If
you
are,
how
would
you
envision
them
being
deployed
in
your
community,
because
that
will
help
inform
the
way
we
score
and
evaluate
the
viability
of
these
technologies?
K
So
friends,
as
we
know
that
Freight
is
a
large
component
of
the
Laredo
economy,
high-speed,
rail
or
sorry,
maglev
traditionally
has
never
really
used
been
used
in
a
freight
system,
and
there
are
large
different
reasons
for
that.
However,
let's
say
the
heart
blue,
while
theoretical
is
intended
to
be
designed
for
both
passengers
and
freight
alike.
Equally,
so
there's
something
like
that
interest
to
you
or
does
the
guarantee
transit,
because
if
it's
affordability
and
scalability
over
time,
despite
a
slower
speed,
really
interesting
or
is
it
all
V
Bo?
C
K
So
there
are
a
couple
different
reasons
and
I
being
not
a
high-speed
rail.
You
know
propulsion
engineer,
let's
say,
can
answer
all
of
them,
but
I
will
say
a
couple
things.
One
is
that
let's
say
you
talk
about
maglev,
it's
using
magnetic
tation
of
foot
above
the
tracks
that
actually
changes
the
load
bearing
weight.
You
can
take
on
the
train
itself,
so
you
could
use
it.
Let's
say,
maybe
for
just-in-time
or
high-value
time
deliveries,
but
you
couldn't
use
your
for
traditional
cargo
because
it's
super
heavy
traditional
high
speed.
K
Rail
also
requires
100%
of
time
so
far
on
the
world,
an
exclusive
track,
close
loop
right
away.
It
does
not
do
well
in
a
true
I
would
say
multimodal
situation,
whereas
let's
say
traditional
freight,
rail
and
commuter
rail
can
share
the
same
track.
So
there's
some
flexibility,
so
they're
different
conditions
that
make
them
viable
technically.
Could
you
use
high-speed
for
probably,
but
it
has
not
yet
been
done
by
those
various
companies
and
I.
J
Think,
as
we
go
through
this
process
as
you
and
the
rest
of
the
MPO
is
along
the
corridor,
go
through
this
process
and
you
start
to
eliminate
areas
or
technologies
that
are
not
viable.
I,
think
that
would
be
a
much
better
time
for
us
to
actually
speak
on
what
technologies
we
would
like
to
see.
Obviously,
we
won't
want
to
see
all
of
them,
but
if
you're
gonna
take
four
of
these
away
because
they
don't
work
in
that
I-35
corridor,
then
it's
a
little
premature
for
us
to
be
telling
you
what
we
would
prefer.
J
I
would
say
that
anything
that
would
allow
connectivity
between
our
area
and
the
rest
of
Texas
and
into
Oklahoma
and
into
Mexico.
We
would
welcome
because
it
would
help
open
our
borders
up
and
and
and
increase
commerce
seem
that
we
are
driven.
Our
economy
is
driven
by
trade
and
we
would
love
to
see
that
we
would
also
like
our
people
or
our
constituents
to
be
able
to
travel
throughout
Texas
Oklahoma
Arizona,
all
the
way
to
Canada
really
quickly
if
they
if
they
chose
to.
J
So
we
would
welcome
any
one
of
these
technologies,
but
I,
don't
think
they're
all
going
to
be
viable
and
so
I
continue
to
think
that
it
would
be
a
little
premature
to
start
talking
about
what
we
want
in
my
opinion,
because
we
don't
know
which
ones
are
actually
going
to
be:
technological,
feasible
and
along
that
35
corridor.
Sure.
K
So
there
are
a
couple
questions
I,
think
that
we
could
ask
to
actually
have
you
can
answer
now
that
helps
shape
our
direction
immediately.
So
friends
is
a
question:
we've
been
working
with
the
other
npos
on
is,
if
you
were,
let's
say
theoretically,
to
have
a
station
for
wanting
technology.
Let's
just
use
high-speed
rail
for
now.
K
As
an
example,
do
you
all
have
a
specific
preference,
and
maybe
your
long-range
plan,
or
maybe
just
right
now,
whether
you
prefer,
let's
say
an
urban
core
station
or
one
periphery,
because
that
actually
changes
the
way
we
would
score
some.
These
technologies
is
being
viable
because
it
would
obviously
change
the
dynamics
of
the
courage
of
the
alignments.
So,
though,
so
some
discussion,
like.
J
J
And
so
when
you
talk
about
trade
that
would
probably
be
in
the
periphery
somewhere,
where
it
wouldn't
interfere
with
our
proper
flow
of
traffic,
that
we
see
what
talking
about
commuter
trains
and
I
think
something
dense,
densely-populated
or
we
would
be
able
to
travel
to
Park
and
then
use
that
rail
for
whatever
vacations
or
work
or
whatever
we
wanted
to
would
probably
be
appropriate.
I,
don't
know
anybody
else
has
any
young,
but.
A
J
We
recognize
the
first
day
you're.
The
limit
of
your
study
is
here,
but
we
are
thinking
beyond
that
because
we
we're
also,
we
are
international
City,
and
so
we
have
to
think
both
ways
here
we
have
to
think
in
New
Mexico
and
in
the
United
States
as
well.
So
that's
why
we
continue
to
harp
on
that
point.
I.
J
Also
have
security
issues
as
well
right,
and
so
we
have
transportation,
there'll
be
a
lot
of
security
issues
and
so
that
that's
something
that
I
think
you
have
to
incorporate:
Border,
Patrol
and
and
everybody
else,
and
just
to
make
sure
that
as
people
are
traveling
internationally,
you
have
that
incorporated
in
there
and
so
I.
Don't
know
whether
that
means
a
substation,
where
you
have
to
stop
people
and
ask
them
to
stop
and
what
County
and
something
along
those
lines.
J
A
J
K
Right,
so
that's:
what's
one
big
consideration,
the
other
would
be.
Would
you
be
in
some
of
these
potential
locations?
Would
you
want
them?
Let's
say
co-located,
so
in
the
Raiders
context,
is
there
an
opportunity
or
facility
or
site
somewhere
that
you
would
be
interested
in,
let's
say
a
co
freight
and
co
passenger
facility,
because
that
would
also
change
some
of
the
dynamics.
We
want
to
look
at
in
terms
of
potential
station
location.
All
six
of
us.
C
J
C
J
Do
believe
that
you're
talking
two
separate
things
and
obviously
they'll
come
back
to
one
quarter
if
you
will
but
but
we
would
want
to
separate
the
freight
aspect
of
it
from
the
passenger
aspect
of
it,
because
I
think
there's
two
different
really
viable
economies.
There.
One
is
the
economy
of
people
and
the
other
is
economÃa
Freight,
so
separating
those
out
as
far
as
being
able
to
because
it
will
take
a
long
time
to
process
Freight
and
we
don't
want
to
be
delaying
passenger
assist.
C
A
J
Can
do
all
sorts
of
things
we
have
just
so
you
know
we
do
have
capacity
to
have
customs
clearance
preclearance
here
for
the
rest
of
the
United
States,
and
so
we're
really
one
of
the
only
areas
and
allows
that
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
reasons.
Why
I
think
Laredo
should
be
the
choice.
Just
so
you're
aware,
then.
J
We
have
two
different
economies
here.
You
have
the
transportation
of
people
that
are
visiting
the
in
New,
Mexico
and
state.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
tourism
aspect,
but
then
there's
also
a
great
aspect
of
it
and
and
so
I.
It
would
be
difficult
and
in
my
mind,
to
be
able
to
have
a
lot
of
18
wheelers
dropping
off
Freight
inside
an
urban
area.
I
think
it
would
be
a
planning
nightmare
for
mr.
snipe
Minh
how
to
get
trucks
in
and
out
of
this
area
without.
K
And
there
are
urban
airports,
suburban
airports,
rural
airports
so
well
well,
I
think
at
this
point
obviously
leave
most
things
on
the
table.
I
think
there
are
very
few
things
so
far.
We
really
ruled
off
from
an
engineering
perspective,
healthy
technologies,
probably
the
the
first
thing
that
we're
really
evaluating
is
whether
the
time
savings
on
these
technologies
make
sense
versus
current
existing
technologies.
So
some
of
them
obviously
are
marginal
versus
others.
K
B
There's
no
update
today,
but
I
wanted
to
let
Great
Commission
other
will
be.
We
will
be,
or
the
committee
rather
I'll,
be
working
with
the
abrazo
partners
on
this
and
also
I
I
live
on
in
dalgo
I
cross,
the
bridge
to
multiple
times
a
week
every
day
on
bicycle
on
foot,
also
in
a
vehicle.
But
eighty.
Ninety
percent
of
my
trips
are
on
bicycle,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
area
and
I'll
be
working
with
on
this
project
and
when
there
is
an
update,
we'll
make
sure
you're
plugged
in
because
I
know
that
was
recorded.
A
J
What
we're
looking
at
this
mayor
and
I
just
would
encourage
you
to
continue
to
talk
to
a
tech
stop
and
to
be
involved
in
all
the
decisions,
because,
ultimately
you
know
a
lot
of
the
right
away.
Is
text
not
and
so
we're
hoping
that
they
help
us
with
a
lot
of
these
things,
and
but
there
was
a
difference,
I
think
of
opinion.
As
far
as
what
we
were
wanting
to
do
in
this
area,
but
I
think
there
is
room
to
work
together
and
I.
Think
you,
you
would
agree
with
that.
I.
F
F
J
If
there's
any
way
to
expedite
this
to
actually
start
getting
people
safely
across
this
quickly,
so
whether
it's
raised
crosswalks
or
whatever
it
may
be,
I
think
we
should
look
at
that
sooner
rather
than
later.
I
think.
F
I
understood
I
think
you
guys
are
ok
with
that
as
well
correct.
We
can
turn
you
look
at
the
crossings
out
there,
we've
seen
those
crosswalks
and
timings
I
personally
walked
through
my
cell
phone
not
too
long
ago.
There's
a
couple
of
things
that
we
can
D
I
guess
expediting
some
of
those
crossings
on
they
find
some
time
for
the
pedestrians
there
I'm
sure.
Working
again,
we
can
come
up
with
something
also.
A
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people.
Well
since
we're
the
number
one
tourist
bus
destination-
and
you
know
people
do
get
off
and
I
think
they
would
want
to
shop
a
little
bit
for
food
and
then
it
would
be
a
food
truck
business.
You
know,
may
may
accommodate
that
need
for
money.
So
that's
something
that
you
owe
me.
You
know
think
about,
especially
that
first
block,
or
at
least
that
you
know
the
first
section
there
that
blocked
it.
That
adjoins
the
bridge.
You
know,
maybe
that
could
work
yeah.
B
J
We've
talked
about
whether
that's
a
possibility,
but
but
I
think.
Ultimately,
there
are
concerns
from
I
mean.
My
big
concern
is
to
make
sure
that
the
flow
of
traffic
continues,
but
number
one
concern
is
the
safety
of
people
crossing
east/west,
right
and
so
so.
I
think
we
there
is
room
to
collaborate
on
this,
but
I
think
it
may
be
leaving
one
intersection
where
people
can
walk
across
something
along
those
lines.
J
Meeting
in
the
middle
I
think
is
what
we
have
to
do,
but,
sir,
as
far
as
inviting
people
I
think
we
do
want
to
invite
and
want
to
beautify
this
area.
I
think
that
council
has
been
extremely
committed
to
that
and
saying
that
we
have
to
connect.
Obviously
there'll
be
some
separation
that
occurs
no
matter
what
and
you
have
a
highway
in
the
middle.
There
is
concern
from
customs
as
far
as
trying
to
move
traffic
as
quickly
as
possible
and
text
out
has
the
same
concern.
D
cos.
J
F
Yeah
right,
I
think
the
biggest
portion
that
you
just
mentioned.
The
biggest
part
of
that
is
that
we
do
have
to
maintain
all
where
the
port
of
entry,
which
is
again
it's
becomes
a
nightmare.
When
you
have
people
come
in
and
going
out
any
reduction
in
travel
lanes,
opting
would
because
of
Nitra
first
backing
up
you
and
we
do
it
to
be
classified
you're,
gonna,
slow
them
down.
It's
gonna
back
up
on
to
35.
You
know,
business
35
is
currently
some
not
a
little
thing.
F
B
So
it's
been
a
month
now
that
I've
been
8090
percent
of
my
trips
on
bikes
in
the
city
and
across
there
daily
and
almost
twice
I've
been
hit
on
that
bicycle
with
people
in
that
area,
and
it's
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
crossing
there
that
don't
cross
regularly
or
there
a
lot
of
vehicles
in
that
through
that
port
that
don't
use
it
regularly
and
and
to
them.
Maybe
their
thought
isn't
looking
for
pedestrians
or
bicyclists,
because
it's
not
designed
very
well
at
all
for
pedestrian
or
bicyclist,
but
I
agree.
B
I
O
O
Intent
of
this
presentation
today
is
to
give
you
an
update
on
what
we
have
been
doing.
It's
just
the
introductory
one
we'll
be
happy
to
come
again
as
you
want
us
to
and
present
as
we
move
forward
in
the
study.
Well,
they've
been
talking
about
safety,
a
little
bit
each
meeting
that
we
start
with
as
text
out
of
Jacobs.
We
start
with
the
safety
minute
and
so
I
figured
that
it
would
be
a
good
time
to
talk
about
safety.
O
One
of
commission
Ryan's
big
thing
text,
Arts
Commission,
is
that
end
the
streak
since
November
2000
there
has
not
been
a
single
day
in
the
state
of
Texas
without
a
fatality
that
is
18
plus
years
and
in
those
18
years
we
have
lost
65
thousand
wives,
that's
very
important.
If
you
look
at
the
counties
about
200
counties
in
Texas
to
54
total
have
population
less
than
that.
So
just
imagine
how
how
big
the
impact
is,
what
we
can
do
we
can
buckle
up.
You
can
help
up.
French
families
remind
about
that
there.
O
The
speed
limit
be
safe,
especially
when
we
are
here
with
trucks
around
us,
be
sober,
don't
drive
on,
while
drinking
and
also
cell
phones
right
now,
the
biggest
single
cell
phones,
a
distraction
and,
like
you
mentioned,
also
take
care
of
pedestrians
and
bicyclists.
They
are
also
there
in
the
and
we
need
to
share
the
road
right
so
today
they
attend
eyes
to
give
some
background
in
history.
Obviously
you
all
are
for
me
familiar
with
the
varied
water.
Loop
has
been
not
about
for
quite
some
time,
look
at
the
overview
and
objectives.
O
What's
the
schedule
that
we
are
looking
at
for
this
study,
what
are
the
growth
trends
in
the
region
that
is
leading
to
this
study
and
and
more
on
that,
then?
What
are
the
segments
that
we're
looking
at
to
the
narrator
out?
What
typical
sections
and
next
steps
in
so
there
was
an
initial
study
completed
in
2007
at
that
point,
it's
not
looked
at
the
lurid
outer
loop
and
came
up
with
an
alternative,
but
there
was
no
funding
so
that
got
stalled,
and
now
we
are
picking
it
up
again,
looking
at
it.
O
O
Also
Laredo
is
going
to
grow
towards
the
east
right
and
when
it's
locked
on
the
west
side
with
the
border,
but
east
is
where
it's
growing
will
draw,
and
we
have
heard
about
the
fourth
and
fifth
bridge
connection,
so
that
will
impact
how
trade
flows
through
a
trade
is
going
slow.
So
that
is
the
other
consideration.
O
So
this
gives
you
a
map
of
what
is
the
connecting
points.
We
are
looking
at
they're,
looking
at
the
Camino
Colombia
and
I-35
ports
north
coming
towards
the
east
and
all
the
way
to
where
the
fourth
and
fifth
bridge
will
be
crossing
that
is
somewhere
in
between
the
city
of
Rio,
Bravo
and
city
of
El
cenizo.
It's
in
that
region
that
it
will
connect
and
it
will
connect
with
all
the
highways
along
it.
The
objective
of
this
study
is
to
look
at
the
feasibility
of
the
proposed
route.
O
This
the
previous
study
has
been
was
done
about
10
plus
years
ago.
Things
have
changed,
let's
take
a
look
at
it
in
terms
of
the
development
patterns,
the
traffic,
what
it
will
look
at
in
100
impacts.
All
of
that
also
look
at
getting
top
the
owner
and
stakeholder
input
there
will
meet
with
the
property
owners
we're
putting
me
to
the
stakeholders.
O
So
this
is
the
project
schedule
we
started
in
March,
so
that
was
when
we
started
have
the
initial
kickoff
meeting
with
the
dist
with
text
out
in
T
PNP,
we
have
looked
at
design
values.
What
the
facility
should
look
like
and
I
threw
in
a
few
slides
what
the
typical
section
is
going
to
be.
So
you
looked
at
the
constraints:
what
are
the
development
constraints,
physical
constraints
and
WOM
do
constraints
like
wetlands
floodplains?
O
O
You
can
see
out
here
that
it's
growing
more
than
four
times
the
rate
of
the
United
States
and
almost
40
percent
higher
are
so
eighty
percent
higher
than
the
state
of
Texas
and
that's
all
considered
E,
not
only
for
Laredo
all
the
border
regions
right,
El
Paso,
as
well
as
the
Rio
Grande
Valley.
If
every
one
faster
Butler
it
was
faster
than
the
other
ones.
O
This
is
the
traffic
map
again
just
to
give
a
reference:
a
lot
of
traffic,
obviously
on
I-35
and
the
loop
existing
loop
20,
not
as
much
towards
the
south
end
on
u.s.
83
but
like
sh
t
50,
and
because
of
all
the
development
along
sh
t
59.
You
can
see
a
lot
of
localized
traffic
and
that's
going
to
grow
or,
as
we
go
further.
This
is
based
on
the
statewide
analysis
models.
A
O
A
O
O
We
also
talked
about
truck
traffic
right.
This
is
a
graphic
that
really
shows
how
much
truck
traffic
has
grown
in
the
Laredo
region.
The
border
crossings,
particularly
if
you
look
back
at
1996,
it's
more
than
double
ten
since
1996,
but
even
since
two
thousand,
eight
or
nine,
when
the
economy
kind
of
slowed
down
since
then,
it
has
almost
doubled
right.
So
a
lot
of
trucks
moving
through
Laredo
as
compared
to
what
it
used
to
be
earlier.
O
This
shows
some
of
the
planned
and
program
improvements.
Obviously
the
we
have
looked
at
the
thoroughfare
plan,
that
is
on
the
left
side,
or
here
the
network,
the
lien
line
or
the
dark
line
that
is
shown
that
was
part
of
the
thoroughfare
plan.
As
Larry
daughter
loop.
We
are
trying
to
connect
it
for
the
north
or
here
near
the
commune
of
Columbia
now,
but
it
walked.
It
was
even
considered
back
when
you
did.
O
C
C
O
C
How
fast
can
we
get
that
identified
or
semi
locked
in?
Because
if
you
look
there
on
highway
between
highway
59
and
359
mm-hmm,
the
majority
is
one
landowner.
On
the
north
side,
you
can
have
one
landowner
for
probably
quite
an
extensive
way
and
I.
Think
it's
very
important
to
the
commissioner
myself,
because
we
have
no
north/south
connector
between
three
59
and
59.
C
D
C
Around
and
and
that's
you
mentioned
earlier-
the
expansion
east
along
to
be
59
here,
getting
schools
you're
getting
you
know,
stuff
going
everyday,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
have
to
go
back
and
have
to
take
out
a
whole
bunch
of
you
know,
housing
or
whatever
it
may
be,
so
the
quicker
we
can
get.
This
alignment
done,
the
better.
You
know
up
north
and
south,
it's
wide
open,
but
that's
the
area
that
we
have
to
concentrate
on
right
now.
It's
highway.
O
But
this
this
study
will
give
us
the
route
options
and
then
it
has
to
go
into
environmental
and
NEPA
and
once
and
schematic
so
once
NEPA
is
cleared.
Then
text
not
has
the
ability
to
start
acquiring
right-of-way.
So,
depending
on
where
we
prioritize
it's
a
bit
project
right,
it's
not
gonna
be
done
one
at
a
time
all
at
once.
O
F
Think,
let's
clarify
something:
it
can't
go
that
quickly,
but
first
of
all
the
first
step
again
is
getting
to
study
down
gain
the
schematic
drawing
out,
but
as
far
as
acquiring
right
away.
At
this
point,
the
project
is
not
funded.
Currently,
there
is
no
funding
for
it.
For
me
to
jump
on
the
static
wine
writer
II
would
be
a
little
difficult
at
this
time.
F
C
One-
and
that
was
that
was
my
my
question,
because
I
think
you
do
have
some
property
owners
that
are
willing
to
donate
right,
but
you
gotta
identify
it
there
lock
it
in
and
then
like,
because
the
county
is
prepared
to
go
ahead
and
start
doing
some
cleaning
and
stuff,
but
we
can
owned
whether
it's
a
county,
road
or
whatever
in
the
interim,
to
be
at
least
be
able
to
use
that
such
and
I
know.
I
was
something
well
know.
Anybody
from
the
RMA
is
here,
but
that
was
something
that
you
know.
F
In
it's
something
that
we
can
work
with
Commission
Carol,
because
that's
a
that's
an
area
of
concern
for
me
as
well.
The
three
5959
gold
quarter
there,
whatever
got
to
the
point
where
we
were
ready
for
with
it.
That's
where
I
would
propose
that
we
start
first
and
then
work
our
way
up,
north
and
south
from
there.
But
unfortunately,
it's
time
this
is
the
first
step
in
moving
forward
and
getting
the
stove.
J
O
D
A
P
Me
just
comment:
something
and
see
we
can
go
from
there.
I
know,
starting
four
would
be
definitely
good
between
59
and
359.
Mr.
Slusser
I've
heard,
while
back
that
cuatro
Vientos
Road,
where
it
stops
right
now
and
beat
them
behind
I
heard
it
was
going
to
go
further
south
and
connect
to
the
underpass
coming
out
from
Rio
Grande
City.
So
how
feasible
is
that
still
in
the
planning
phase
or
taken
into
consideration?
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
big
area.
It's
not
a
you
know
it's
more
feasible
to
start
there.
P
F
P
F
A
O
Yeah
we've
developed
a
couple
of
alternatives,
like
you
mentioned,
connecting
Luke
22,
the
outer
loop,
as
well
as
us,
eighty-three
and
connecting
to
the
page
four
and
five.
So
these
are
the
two
alternatives
that
we
have
right
now
that
we'll
be
working
with
the
property
owners
and
stakeholders
to
make.
We
see
how
it
works
for
damage
and
you
find
them
as
we
go
so.
D
I
This
area
properly
allocated
I
guess
back
in
2007,
there
were
property
owners
were
visited
and
yeah
yeah.
It
looks
like
they
left
a
man
right
there
from
what
was
initially
the
the
alternative.
A
is
what
was
initially
proposed,
the
bottom
portion
of
it
and
I'll
turn
the
Devine
that
curve.
What
it's
doing
is
just
taking
the
route
way
outside
of
the
balloon.
I
C
O
O
O
C
I
know
you
have
you're
gonna,
have
old,
wellheads
and
think
that
they
had
to
avoid
on
you
know
at
the
beginning,
but
a
lot
of
those
are
now
starting
to
be
abandoned,
and
so
some
of
that
corridor
is
opening
up,
but
no
new
drilling
there
whatsoever.
So
that's
you
know.
There's
no
ongoing
exploration
on
the
east
side
of
town.
I
And
on
the
north
side,
let
me
let
me
just
explain
briefly
on
the
alternative
way.
This
is
kind
of
the
initial
thought.
You
know
this
course
as
far
as
we
can
to
the
east,
the
alternative,
a
what
is
doing
is
Venus
I
wrote
235
instead
of
one
especially
that
area
on
the
north
of
Laredo
has
been
high
developed.
Once
truck
traffic
is
coming
down
on
35.
J
C
83,
the
83
connection
is
pretty
open
right
now,
it's
her
fruit
and
stuff.
You
just
go
east
there's,
you
know,
there's
no
development
whatsoever.
The
other
development
you
have
is
on
359
right
now,
because,
where
you
cross
59,
there's
no
development
and
anything
east
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
have
anything.
You
know
it's
it's
clear
sailing
until
you
get
to
communal
Columbia.
So
really
that's
the
only
truck
more
than
359
right
now.
So,
wherever.
P
C
A
O
Few
sites,
so
your
plan
is
to
have
this
as
a
freeway
ultimate
but
as
demand
increases
initially
it'll
start
with
a
two
lane
undivided
facility
and
then
built
out
as
a
four-lane
divided
and
then,
as
we
grow,
have
a
four-lane,
freeway
section.
So
add
the
maintenance
in
between
and
then
expand
or
six
lanes
as
necessary.
O
O
O
F
O
G
F
F
C
A
C
F
A
A
M
Afternoon
it
is
for
the
record
every
engineer
for
textile
on
the
talk
to
you
briefly
about
the
ongoing
projects
and
over
time
the
first
one
they
can
see
the
railroad
bridge
that
one
the
project
itself
is
pretty
darn
close
to
completion.
We
are
looking
at
98%
complete.
We
have
issues
with
illumination
and
signage
still
going
on.
M
The
project
itself
is
a
twenty
five
point:
five
million
investment,
the
next
project
gonna
talk
to
you
about
sei
59.
The
u.s.
59
is
35
overpass.
The
ser
project
there's
also
a
twenty
five
point:
five
million
dollar
investment
is
wearing
that
one
were
eighty
two
percent
complete
we're
still
not
scheduled
for
December
19
were
working
on
British
labs
and
concrete
pavement.
M
C
F
M
M
F
F
C
M
The
checkpoint,
which
is
about
three
point
four
miles
south
of
44,
all
the
way
up
to
the
county
line
that
one
right
now
we
just
started
working
it.
What
about
two
percent
complete
and
that
one
is
basically
going
in
there
and
reconstruction
the
roughly
base
or
the
template
that
exists
right
now,
will
stay
as
it
is
the
roadway
structures,
what
is
being
beaten
up
or
work
done.
M
Nothing
that
want
to
talk
to
you
about
is
another
overlay
project.
The
other
overlay
project
is
a
new
one
that
there's
this
359,
and
this
one
has
two
various
locations:
there's
very
locations
outside
of
Webb
County
in
Duval
County,
but
the
one
thing,
particularly
that
of
interest
to
us
here,
we'll
be
the
ones
with
Webb
the
monsoon
Webb.
You
probably
noticed
Enders
in
Columbia
working
on
new
years,
59
from
when
Avista,
through
a
hero,
basically
corn
in
there
and
melanin
Lee,
also
working
on
on
a
you
know:
wrong
the
OB,
the
northbound
furnace
Road.
M
Let's
cut
some
areas
that
we're
gonna
go
on
and
we're
working
on
doing
the
spot,
base,
repairs
and
overlay
due
to
the
high
traffic
volume
in
that
area.
Working
with
the
contractor
and
that's
going
to
be
well,
that
is
basically
per
night
work
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
continuous
work
during
the
weekend
chefs
now,
there's
another
going
to
be
another
section.
This
one
isn't
55
from
Camino
Colombia
from
the
Columbia
bridge,
all
the
way
up
to
14.
M
F
M
More
project
we
want
to
discuss,
and
it's
just
a
brand
new
project.
We
had
to
pre-con
no
interest
to
everybody
here:
33
38
and
that
one
we
already
had
to
pre-construction
meeting
we're
scheduled
to
start
construction.
This
coming
Monday
a
week
from
today
and
as
construction
starts,
will
brief
you
on
it.
Okay,
any
questions.
No
thanks.
A
C
You
very
much
I,
don't
know,
there's
any
benefit,
but
maybe
David
and
and
Kirby.
The
Commissioner
has
a
project
that
we're.
You
know
the
court
has
approved
for
his,
which
is
the
bypass
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
any
benefit
bringing
it
here,
since
some
City
does
I
think
is
an
exterior
and,
of
course,
textile
involved.
Is
there.
P
I
mean
you're
familiar
with
that
with
that
a
project,
it's
it's,
it's
a
realignment
project,
that's
kind
of
lying,
warm
sure
and
and
align
itself
with
Lomas
and
sewer,
and
that's
going
to
be
beneficial,
obviously,
because
it'll
connect
right
through
cuatro
Vientos
Road,
which
right
now
there
is
no
no
connection.
Everything
is
barricaded
or
you
know,
for
safety
reasons,
but
that
would
definitely
help
out
as
far
as
having
the
flow
of
traffic
for
maybe
three
shelves
connect
through
Lomas
ensued.
All
the
way
to
two
worms,
or
so
from
south
to
East
would
be
definitely
beneficial.
C
F
A
great
it's
a
great
project
when
they,
when
the
Commissioner
gave
over
to
so
we
certainly
looked
at
it
and
you're
right.
It's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
traffic,
not
only
off
of
83
but
359
and
whatnot
to
back
the
neighborhood
and
turn
into
cuatro
Vientos,
but
it
is
a
viable
project.
I
guess
I
would
like
if
y'all
bring
it,
we
can
do
a
presentation
here.
I.
F
F
You
have
closed
the
meeting
like
that
forgot
to
introduce
over
next
to
mr.
Romero
the
biggest
cynic
someone
his
right
is
our
our
newest
director
of
Transportation
Planning
development
and
design
here,
interracial
district,
whom
backto
Gonzalez
we
refer
to
mosquito.
He
was
a
13-year
veteran
for
text
night.
He
went
out
to
the
private
sector
as
a
senior
project
manager
and
he
was
smart
enough
to
come
back
to
work
or
text
that
so
he
will
be
leading
the
charge
more
abusive
and
you
would
see
a
lot
more
than
here
at
these
meetings.
C
Other
business
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
The
tech
stop,
no,
no
they've
been
working
very
hard
with
us
and
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
had
such
cooperation.
So
all
you
and
all
your
staff
out
there
I
know
they've
all
been
working
working
hard
and
it
was
usually
held
down
by
the
leadership
and
I
think
they
would
think
I.
F
A
A
There's
anything
else
that
we
need
to
do
some
more
knocking
in
doors
or
whatever.
Just
let
is
no
to
taking
okay.
That
sounds
good,
any
other
business.
Thank
you.
I
do
have
more
Shinra.
Well,
I!
Guess
we
really
can't
take
action
now,
there's
this
portal
ISM,
but,
ladies
Jim,
thank
you.
So
much
we'll
see
you
next
month.
Yeah
really
thank
you.