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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting, 08/19/2021
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A
A
You
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second
second
and
the
second
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi,
hi
hi.
I
suppose
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
citizens
comments
or
anybody
who
signed
up
right
now
for
citizens
comments.
No,
sir!
No
sir.
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
into
item
number
six
discussion
and
possible
action,
6a
discussion
and
possible
action
regarding
the
I'll.
Tell
you
what
I'm
going
to
do.
I'm
going
to
move
item
6,
a
and
6b
to
the
end
of
the
meeting.
A
All
right,
all
those
in
favor
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
we're
going
to
move
right
into
the
public
hearings.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
people
here
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
it
to
the
public
sharings
hearing
number
one
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
loaded
by
raises
only
approximately
two
acres
of
land,
more
or
less
comprised
of
the
entire
individual
called
one
acre
tract
eight,
a
through
eight
d
conveyed
to
alvaro
properties
ltd.
A
A
E
D
It
is
approximately
two
acres
located
at
8408
casa
verde
road.
The
zone
change
request
is
for
an
r2
multi-family
district.
To
pardon
me,
it's
from
an
r2
to
a
b1
limited
commercial
district.
The
proposed
use
is
commercial
and
apartments,
42
letters
were
sent
out
and
although
it
indicates
that
there
was
none
for
or
against,
we
have
received
just
here
in
the
last
few
minutes.
Eight
responses
in
favor
of
the
proposed
change.
D
This
is
a
location
map.
This
is
an
aerial
view
there.
It
is
on
casa
verde,
the
hatched
across
areas.
This
is
a
street
view.
This
is
a
proposed
zoning.
You
see
that
it
has
r1
zoning
to
the
sort
of
looks
to
the
north
to
the
east,
to
the
south
and
currently
zoned
r2.
You
there's
a
sort
of
a
a
swath
of
b3
just
about
300
feet
south
of
there,
and
it
is
designated
low-density
residential
and
staff
support.
D
We,
although
not
in
conformance
with
the
the
comprehensive
plans
nation
of
low
density
residential.
We
believe
that
the
proposed
zone
would
serve
the
neighborhoods
as
a
store
and
provide
services
for
the
area
residents
the.
So
we
did
identify
that
the
same
zone
change
was
requested
in
2014
and
denied
in
2014.
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A
J
J
K
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G
O
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D
The
applicant
in
this
case
is
sylvia,
guerra,
owner
rafael,
hernandez
applicant.
It's
a
lot
to
block
1865
eastern
division
located
at
303
003
market
street.
The
zone
change
request
is
from
r3
to
b1
limited
commercial
district.
The
proposed
use
is
commercial
they're,
proposing
a
mini
grocery
store.
In
this
case,
the
36
letters
were
sent
out.
One
was
received
in
favor.
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If
I
may
make
a
comment
through
chairman,
real
quick,
I'm
familiar
with
that
area,
that
building
has
been
there
for
the
last
30
years
and
the
purpose
would
be
and
serve
for
the
community
and-
and
I
think
it'd
be
a
result
in
that
area
yeah.
It's
always
at
some
point,
the
previous
owner
passed
away
and,
and
they
closed
it
down,
but
it
was
serving
the
purpose
if
he
opens
back
as
a
grocery
store.
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
the
community.
That's
fine
yeah!
It.
K
A
H
A
A
D
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D
D
It
is
designated
as
low
density
residential
currently
and
we
support
we
support
the
proposal
on
change.
The
proposed
b4
district
is,
although
not
in
performance
with
a
low
density,
residential
designation
for
the
comp
plan,
and
the
proposed
use
is
in
conformance
with
the
predominantly
predominant
uses
along
state
highway
359,
which
are
mostly
commercial
and
industrial.
D
H
D
I
I
don't
believe
anything
change.
I
think
we
just
took
a
look
at
it
and
reformulate
our
position.
Of
course,
this
is
different.
You
know
different
management
and
the
position
looks
like
you
know.
After
reconsidering
the
surrounding
uses,
the
placement
along
a
highway
before
it
did
not
seem
like
it
could
be
out
of
character
in
this
area.
S
S
A
K
R
A
T
T
F
T
D
U
U
T
My
thing
is,
ladies
and
gentlemen:
if
it
was
in
front
of
right
next
to
your
house,
would
you
want
an
autumn
mechanic?
Would
you
want,
and
he
today
it's
him-
that's
the
owner,
but
if
it's
allowed
before
he
sells
off
next
time
it
could
be
somebody
else
we
were
here
a
year
ago.
We
did
have
some
issues
because
it
like
I
said
it
was.
It
is
a
private
road
and
they
were
using
that
road
without
permission.
T
So
I
understand
that
now
they're
trying
to
get
a
permit
to
get
their
own
entrance.
It's
really
close
to
our
entrance,
really
really
close,
so
it's
gonna
get
confused
one
or
the
other.
I
know
eventually
we're
gonna
have
to
put
a
gate.
We
have
signed
to
say
private
road,
but
again
just
think
if
you
were
living
right
there.
What
kind
of
businesses
would
you
want
right?
Next
to
your
house,
we
have
no
traffic,
we
have
it's
private,
it's
a
four
houses.
Four
families
we've
lived
there.
T
I've
lived
here
since
I
was
four
years
old.
I'm
not
gonna
say
how
old
I
am
now,
but
I,
my
kids
grow
are
growing
up
there.
We
see
the
difference
right
now
with
men
working
there.
I'll
be
honest,
my
daughter
was
walking
our
dog
because
it's
always
been
private
and
men
were
working
there
and
she
was
getting
cat
calls
nothing
we've
ever
experienced.
T
I
just
I'm
very
worried
because,
like
I
said
this
has
always
been
family
owned.
We
could
we
were
never
worried
about
who
was
around
us
because
it's
always
been
our
family.
I
understand
that
it
was
sold.
I'm
not
saying
I
understand
it's
business,
but
I
just
wish
it
could
be
a
little
bit
more
restricted
from
a
b4
to
something
a
lot
less
so
that
they
don't
have
that
wide
range.
T
O
O
We
need
to
keep
it
residential
across
the
highway.
Places
are
zoned
r1
on
the
map
so
and
our
side
is
still
r1.
We
want
to
keep
it
r1
for
the
potential
of
residences.
Future
residents
is:
there's
a
middle
school
elementary
schools
popping
up
on
that
side
of
town
off
of
veterans
right,
there's
potential.
M
V
P
V
That
I
was
stayed
and
to
highlight
in
regards
to
the
location.
We
understand
that,
and
the
map
didn't
really
showcase,
that
we're
about
half
a
mile
from
the
sac
there's
also
different
residential
areas
and
next
to
us,
and
I
think
one
of
the
agricultures
just
recently,
you
all
proved
to
turn
into
a
residential
yeah,
and
I
know
that
behind
that
private
road
there's
a
couple
acres
that
the
family
might
in
the
future
that
there's
plants
they
think
that
happened
before
and
it
was
debating
because
what
kind
of
signs,
what
kind
of
traffic?
V
And
since
he
had
that
lot,
which
is
less
than
an
acre
and
no
entrance,
they
were
trying
to
use
the
private
roads.
You
can't.
So
that
was
the
time
they
couldn't
access
it,
and
now
they
are
already
building.
There's
already
construction
they'll
be
down
the
road
right
in
front
of
it.
My
concern
is
what
come
up
throughput
traffic
are
gonna.
Have
there
how
it's
going
to
impact
the
private
road
is
right
next
to
it,
there's
just
one
pillar
that
is
private
and
then
his
lands
start.
So
what
kind
of
business
are
they
going
to?
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G
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R
This
commission
guides
ourselves
by
the
ordinances
and
by
the
by
the
position
of
the
lots
where
they're
located
the
I
understand
mrs
gawona's
concern.
I
really
do,
but
also
I
see
the
applicant's
kids
bringing
something
that
will
actually
actually
complies
with
the
requirements
of
the
highway
frontage.
R
Now
this
is
my
personal
opinion
and
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up,
you're
going
to
be
lucky
that
he
gets
a
v4
because
whatever
he
builds
in
there
he's
going
to
be
segregated,
actually
limited
because
he
has
to
create
a
buffer
between
the
residential
and
the
b
form.
So
it
is
to
your
advantage
that
he
gets
a
v4
because
whatever
is
built
in
there,
he
has
to
go
through
a
lot
of
scrutiny.
V
S
A
P
K
A
T
A
T
A
To
build
anything
else
on
there
like
a
structure
or
anything
like
that,
that
requires
permits
the
city
has
to
approve
the
construction,
they
have
to
approve
plans
and
they
have
to
go
and
expect
that
everything
is
done
according
to
the
plans
and
according
to
the
building
codes.
Okay,
so
that's
the
process
that
the
city
would
follow.
M
A
A
A
E
A
A
It's
gonna
be
up
to
what
the
commission
wants
to
do.
The
commission
has
some
different
legways
that
you
can
go
where
you
can
say.
Well,
we'll
take
it
as
is,
or
we
suggest
that
maybe
we
down
zone
it
to
be
one.
Those
are
options.
It's
up
to
the
commission,
whatever
you
all
want
to
do.
Mr
sherman,
let
me
finish
the
public
hearing,
I
guess
and
then
we'll
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
all
right.
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Here
we
go,
the
applicant
is
lopez
and
sons,
investment
llc,
I'm
sorry,
the
owner,
hilo
tcm
inc,
dbas
tacomayas
is
the
applicant
and
fernando
canseco
is
a
representative.
The
property
is
described
as
lot.
One
block
one
royal
oak
subdivision
phase,
one
located
at
110
willow
oak
street,
the
zone
change
request
is
for
special
use
permit
and
the
proposed
use
is
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol.
D
D
We
did
a
site
analysis
again
dealing
with
all
the
parking.
Sorry,
the
proposed
location
meets
the
minimum
distance
requirement
of
300
feet
between
the
proposed
use
and
the
nearest
residential
district
used
park
school
or
church
as
per
land
development
code.
Section
24-95,
the
approximately
over
400.
M
M
Q
G
A
P
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P
G
A
Thank
you.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
Anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
item
of
the
special
use
department
in
favor
of
the
special
needs
permit
against
the
special
use
permit
against
the
special
abuse
permit
all
right.
What
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission?
I
move
to
approve.
We
have
a
motion
in
the
sector,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
those
against
motion
carriers.
A
D
Okay,
the
applicant
in
this
case
is
laredo
almanaced
limited
daniel
wires.
As
a
representative,
the
property
is
described
as
an
8.2
acre
tract
located
south
of
loma
salisota
boulevard
and
the
zone
change
request
is
from
r1
to
r1a
single
family
reduced
area
district.
The
proposed
use
is
residential,
seven
letters
were
sent
out
and
none
were
received
either.
Four
against
this
is
a
location
map.
D
This
is
a
zoning
map.
You'll
see
that
it
is
zoned
predominantly
r1
to
the
south,
with
I
think
it's
r1a
all
that
to
the
north
and
to
the
east
and
then
all
agricultural
to
the
west.
It
is
designated
low
density,
residential,
that's
the
comprehensive
plan
and
staff
recommends
support.
Sorry
staff
supports
the
proposed
application.
D
We
support
because
we've
we
believe
that
it's
compatible
with
the
single-family
residential
users
in
the
area
it
abuts
large
areas
of
r1
to
the
north
and
to
the
east,
and,
although
not
in
conformance
with
the
low
density
res,
the
load
density,
residential
designation
on
the
comp
plan.
The
proposed
use
complements
the
adjacent
r1
zones
and
there
is
the
proposed
motion.
P
V
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X
M
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D
Y
A
H
A
And
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye,
aye
aye
goes
against.
Motion
carries
all
right.
The
next
item
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo
by
resorting
approximately
2.34
acres,
and
this
is
located
south
of
u.s,
highway,
359
and
west
of
missions,
boulevard
from
r1a
to
r2.
D
Okay,
this
application
was
initiated
by
a
ghetto
2
llc
porras,
nan's
engineering
app
is
the
applicant.
The
property
is
described
as
a
2.343
acre
tract
located
south
of
u.s,
highway,
359
and
west
of
las
mesianas
boulevard.
The
proposed
zone
changes
from
r1a
single-family,
reduced
area
district
to
r2,
multi-family
residential
district.
D
M
M
A
M
F
F
A
A
W
D
The
applicant
or
the
applicant,
the
application,
was
initiated
by
patricia
a
barretta.
The
property
is
identified
as
lot
7
and
8
block
92
eastern
division
located
on
719
corpus,
christi
street
and
the
zone
change
request
is
from
b1
limited
commercial
district,
2
b3
community
business
district.
The
proposed
use
was
not
specified
in
the
application.
K
D
D
Yeah
medium
density,
neighborhood,
mixed
use,
neighborhood,
makes
you
sorry,
neighborhood
makes
use.
We
support
the
proposed
application.
The
proposed
v3
district
is
in
conformance
with
a
complex
designation,
which
allows
all
uses,
except,
of
course,
those
m1
m2
b4.
All
those
that
are
identified
and
the
proposed
one
is-
is
compatible
with
the
commercial
uses
in
the
area.
A
A
D
A
A
L
Chairman
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
blj
llc.
The
engineer
of
record
is
for
residence
engineering.
The
proposed
uses
residential
multi-family
open
space,
the
zoning
for
this
1073
law
developments,
r1a
the
general
locations
parking,
227,
acres,
located
south
of
state,
highway,
359
and
east
of
pg
ranch
road
aerial
view
street
view.
X
Good
afternoon,
mr
chairman
wayne,
with
portland
engineering,
as
you
recall,
we
brought
this
last
time
sure
and
I
believe
that
staff
met
with
some
some
of
the
commissioners
to
clarify
some
of
the
access
areas.
We
agree
with
all
the
comments
I'll
get
right
to
it.
We
agree
with
all
the
comments,
but
we
do
feel
that
we
need
to
clarify
item
number
six,
which
discusses
a
additional
connection
to
state
highway
359.
X
As
we
pointed
out
in
the
last
time
and
shown
in
the
aerials,
we
don't
have
direct
access
to
359,
where
we
have
we're
one
track,
but
we
do
agree
as
much
as
we
are
providing
as
many
connections
through
the
long
range
thoroughfare
plan
that
will
eventually
connect
to
359
we're
agreeing
to
a
traffic
impact
analysis
that
will
address
the
existing
eg
ranch
connectivity
and
its
capacity,
and
we
extend
the
same
comment
to
similar
comments
that
traffic
and
text
that
have
provided.
So
we.
X
A
C
X
C
A
AA
A
X
A
It
does,
let
me
ask
you:
does
anybody
in
the
stab
know?
Does
that
world
go
all
the
way
back
to
which
subdivision?
Because
it
was
it
was
it
was
intention?
The
intention
was
to
get
traffic
from
concord
hills
out.
That's
right,
so
that's
the
end
of
where
the
road
ends
right
now,
right
in
the
concord
hills.
How
far
is
concord
hills
from
las
vincas,
more
or
less.
M
A
R
X
R
Y
Now
yeah
phase
seven
is
is
over
the
threshold
for
the
minimum
number
of
units,
so
they
will
need
a
second
exit
and
it
should
have
been
our
comments
and
we're
going
to
start
included.
But
the
only
thing
that
we
would
need
to
make
sure
is
that
the
second
exit
is
a
minimum
of
half
the
diagonal
of
the
total
development.
From
the
first.
X
G
A
Y
Just
in
this
instance
phase
seven
they're
already
showing
us
that
they're
over
the
30
lots.
Yet
they
don't
have
it
so
they'll
have
to
come
up
showing
us,
but
I
just
want
to
let
remind
them
and
I'm
sure
he
knows,
but
it's
just
on
record
that
they
have
to
have
that
minimum
separation
absolutely
correctly.
Absolutely.
AB
Just
want
to
give
some
background
on
this
eg
ranch
road,
the
one
that
this
subdivision
would
connect
to.
There
was
a
traffic
impact
analysis
done
many
many
years
ago,
also
the
tech
slot
and
looked
at
that.
All
of
these
developments
are
coming
into
it.
Now
we're
never
meant
to
be
or
part
of
that
tia.
AB
So
we
have
typical
laredo
style,
we
put
a
road
and
we
keep
adding
and
adding
and
adding
to
it
what
happened
to
concord
hills,
unfortunately,
we're
getting
relief.
Many
many
years
after
was
needed.
All
I'm
trying
to
is
make
sure
we
don't
get
the
same
situation
here.
We
have
one
road
and
we
keep
adding
and
adding
more
subdivisions
to
it.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
those
cars
out
for
that.
One
traffic
signal.
AB
A
AB
A
W
A
L
A
A
Second
and
second,
but
commission
raised
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi
all
right
and
for
the
record,
I
will
abstain
from
this
particular
okay,
all
right.
The
next
one
is
review
consideration
of
the
revision
of
the
central
village
subdivision
master
plan,
the
intense
residential
and
commercial.
W
G
A
K
O
G
D
AA
K
K
A
P
A
A
L
Yes,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
l91
dc
properties.
Llc.
The
engineer
of
record
is
goa
consulting
llc.
The
proposed
uses
residential
and
commercial.
The
zoning
for
the
504
lot
developments
are
one,
it's
moved.
It
is
approximately
94
acres
located
east
of
cuatrobientos,
road
and
south
of
state
highway.
59.
L
A
G
A
U
A
A
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
for
the
engineer,
all
right
and
that
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve.
There's
a
motion:
do
we
have
a
second
second
and
the
second
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
rosa
gains
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item,
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
plans
and
preliminary
reflights
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plateau
la
finca
space
3
and
the
granting
of
a
various
to
allow
10
foot
front
yard,
set
back
to
lots,
fronting
culver,
sacks
being
locked,
seven
and
eight
block
six
slot.
L
L
X
A
C
AB
R
G
X
Yes,
but
we're
also
proposing
to
always
have
that
same
standard
flat
note
about
the
garages
yeah
we're
all
just
being
being
held
back,
it's
just
so
that
the
building
structure
itself
can
approach
a
little
bit
further
on
those
shorter
cul-de-sac
lots,
but
we
recognize
that
we
want
to
get
that
parking
and
so
we'll
agree
to
keep
that
flat.
Note
that
puts
the
garage
okay.
A
A
A
X
A
L
L
A
L
A
Any
questions
for
the
engineer:
if
not,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission
room
to
approve?
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
second
and
the
second?
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi
goes
against.
Motion
carries
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plan
of
the
windmill
subdivision
phase,
one
the
intense
residential
and
commercial.
A
Motion
on
the
second,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
right
against
motion
carries
the
next
heightened
preliminary
consideration
of
the
replay
a
lot
14
block
11..
That's
michelin,
subdivision
unit
3
into
lot
14
a
block
11!
That's
missing,
subdivision
unit
3!
The
intent
is
to
abandon
a
10
foot
retention
easement
or
what
is
a
dea
and
dedicated
15
foot,
utility
easement
and
a
15
foot
drain
adjacent.
I'm
sorry,
not
detaching
drainage.
L
All
right,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
the
applicant
is
jesus.
The
engineer
of
record
is
getting
engineering
and
surveying
the
proposed
use
again
to
abandon
the
10-foot
drainage.
Men
dedicate
the
15-foot
utilities,
man
15-foot
drainage,
easement,
for
this
one
lot
of
them
is
r1a
approximately
0.12
acres
located
south
of
state,
high
39
and
east
of
baghdad.
L
L
L
U
L
Y
A
L
Christmas
chairman
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
d
j,
alexander
investments,
llc
the
engineer
of
record
is
top
side.
Civil
group
llc,
the
proposed
uses
commercial
and
the
zoning
for
this
one
lot.
Development
is
v3:
approximately
1.35
acres
parks
located
south
of
east
corner
of
university
boulevard
and
bartlett
avenue
aerial
view
street
view.
AA
P
A
L
President
chairman,
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
d
j,
alexander
investments,
llc
the
engineer
of
record
is
top
side.
Civil
group
llc.
The
proposal
uses
commercial
and
the
zoning
for
this
one
lot
on
this
b3
2.66
acres
located
northeast
corner
of
university
of
boulevard
and
bartlett
avenue,
ariel
view
street
view.
AA
C
Y
A
Y
A
S
A
A
A
A
A
Yes,
come
on,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
take
off
all
those
in
favor,
say
the
public
saying
aye
aye
all
right
all
right
can
we
have
a
motion
for
approval,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
a
second
all
those
errors
they
decide.
If
I
say
die
ocean
carries.
Thank
you.
Now
we
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
agenda
and
we're
going
to
go
and
take.
Let
me
see.
AC
Okay,
capital
improvement
program
for
this
for
the
city.
As
you
all
know,
this
is
a
five-year
program
that
gets
adopted
every
every
year
and
gets
we
get
we
we
change
it
as
we
move
along
every
year.
We
get
we
implement
it
and
we
we
make
changes
and
we
add
things
as
we
move
through
every
council
meeting
and
every
year
we
keep
adopting
things
new
to
us
so
this
year
this
five-year
five-year
plan
consists
of
almost
1.5
billion
dollar
plan.
Obviously
not
all
of
it.
It's
it's
funded.
AC
E
G
W
Q
D
A
B
G
AC
Yeah
we
did.
We
approve
a
acip
based
on
on
projects
that
console
requested,
and
we
we
have
us.
We
have
several
slides
that
that
will
show
you
what
some
of
the
biggest
projects
that
console
console
requested
and
some
of
the
projects
that
departments
like
utilities,
which
have
the
most
the
biggest
ones,
the
biggest
projects
and
utilities
utilities,
will
be
one
of
the
biggest
ones
that
have
the
most
projects.
AC
AC
G
AC
G
D
If
we
didn't
get
to
a
sort
of
a
logical
conclusion
in
the
project
like
where
we
had
a
product
that
we
could
present
because
it's
you
know,
money
from
the
government
and
also
they
said
that
we
would
have
to
give
the
money
back
and
then
ask
for
them
to
reallocate
it
to
us
with
within
the
earmark
it
wasn't.
We
weren't
allowed
the
discretion
to.
G
Y
D
G
D
Yeah,
it
was
part
of
the
the
west
laredo
multimodal
corridor,
which
was
cpnl,
fletcher
las
cruces,
a
realignment
and
the
carlton,
the
colton
overpass,
so
yeah.
It
was
all
of
that,
but
the
the
the
legislation
that
allocated
most
of
the
funds
that
are
now
inside
of
carlton
actually
identify
colton
is
the
project
that
those
monies
are
allocated
to.
D
M
A
G
A
A
D
D
G
G
D
Right,
the
the
big
thing
that
sort
of
pushed
the
project
to
obsolescence
was
the
great
the
great
separation
over
the
railroad.
That
was
the
big
thing
that
we're
trying
to
avoid
is
having
those
trucks
get
stuck
at
that
railroad
crossing
over
there
right
at
the
del
mar
mines.
So,
once
texas
built
that
you
know
it,
it
changed
all
the
numbers,
but
once
it
was
built
those
those
monies
were
already
allocated
via
earmark.
So
when
we,
when
we,
you
know,
they
did
all
that
research
to
see.
D
N
D
Of
it,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
delays
with
those
projects
we
had
to
redesign
because
somebody
didn't
want
to.
They
wanted
an
exorbitant
amount
of
money
for
their
warehouse,
so
they
had
to
push
the
bridge
over.
We
had
up
to
90
percent
designs,
so
I'm
imagine
we
had
already
gone
through
tech,
stud
environmental.
D
Had
to
push
it
over
so
we
had
to
start
again
with
those
designs
every
five
years
or
so
our
environmental
rules
change.
So
we've
had
those
issues
I
mean
there
was
a
lot
of
right-of-way
problems.
Fletch
on
cpnl.
We
had
actually
a
project.
Stop.
We
had
one
councilman
came
in
and
said
that
they
didn't
want
the
project,
so
we
had
to
stop
the
project
and
then
another
councilman
came
in
and
said
he
did.
So
we
had
to
restart.
D
AC
D
D
A
Don't
have
money
to
do
that
project,
so
I
guess
the
recommendation
that
I
would
suggest
is
that
you
go
back
to
the
funding
source
and
say
we
don't
have
enough
money
to
complete
this
project
now.
But
if
we
can
use
that
money
to
just
do
a
river
road
to
relieve
traffic
off
of
the
mines
road,
the
concept
was
way
back
to
just
do
a
a
road
that
would
connect
obviously
to
fletcher
lane
to
riverside
road
right
around
what
riverbank.
A
The
riverbank
and
then
take
it
further
and
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
mueller
subdivision.
Indian
sunset
passed
it
faster
so
that
you
can
have
a
parallel
reliever
for
passenger
vehicles
only
to
allow
them
to
get
off
the
mines,
road
and
just
have
this
other
way
in
and
out
for
emergency
vehicles.
Also,
because
that
was
another
big
issue.
We
had
response
time
with
ambulances
and
fire.
C
A
A
D
No,
the,
I
guess
the
the
preferred
design
was
going
to
go
behind
and
go
right
through
sort
of
the
middle
of
fletcher
lane
right.
It's
not
not
at
the
beginning,
like
a
mine's
like
in
the
middle
it'll
punch
through
like
between
those
warehouses
so
and
behind
those
warehouses,
is
that
that
union
pacific,
I
think
it's
the
union,
pacific.
D
A
Think
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
get
somebody
to
come
back
and
look
at
the
prior
plans.
You
know
this
commission
if
you
all
wish
that
let's
take
a
look
at
those
prior
plans,
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
pushes
that
we
need
to
do
is
we
shouldn't
be
putting
band-aids
on
the
mind.
Road
can
double
turns
here
you
get
by
and
it's
the
same
thing
you're,
not
adding
more
capacity.
You're
riding
the
hell.
A
You've
got
more
than
2
000
acres
that
are
still
going
to
be
developed,
industrial
and
it's
all
going
to
come
back
to
the
main
road.
So
you
need
to
take
traffic
off
of
the
mice
road
by
taking
at
least
passenger
vehicles
and
off
of
that
and
just
bringing
it
up
a
little
bit
more
for
commercial
traffic.
A
That's
what
we
need
to
work
on.
I
don't
you
know
I
I
we
need
to
do
something.
You
know
either
that
or
build
an
expressway
or
the
mines
road
for
just
trucks.
You
can
do
something
here.
I
mean
that's
a
challenge
to
you
guys
because
we've
been
talking
about
trying
to
reduce
traffic
on
the
mines
road,
but
yet
there's
properties
that
are
still
coming
in
for
development.
A
A
So
somehow
you've
got
to
get
to
the
world
trade
bridge
and
that's
whether
we
use
the
existing
or
you
build
a
brand
new
one
on
top
of
the
existing
to
get
your
traffic
in
and
out.
But
somebody
needs
to
start
working
on
some
plans
there.
To
I
mean
I
don't
see
our
city
at
addressing
being
that
we're
the
largest
inline
port.
Supposedly,
I
don't
see
anybody
actively
working
to
come
up
with
a
solution.
That's
a
viable
solution
based
on
your
land
use
that
is
to
the
north
northwest,
which
most
of
it
is
manufacturing
and
industrial.
A
A
A
A
All
you're
doing
with
bioceos
is
you're,
adding
queuing.
That's
all
you're
doing
you're
still
coming
back
into
the
same
area
yeah,
so
I
mean
we
need
to
think
out
of
the
box.
Somebody
needs
to
really
start
thinking
on
how
to
redo
things
and
not
just
that
these
band-aids
well,
let's
just
queue
more
traffic
on
by
seals.
Let's
put
them
on
a
char.
A
chart
is
still
going
to
have
to
come
back
through
35
back
down
the
same
way.
A
D
AC
A
W
AC
A
S
AC
A
A
AC
A
K
AC
K
K
W
O
W
C
AC
AC
M
AC
L
AC
AC
G
AC
W
AC
A
G
D
W
AB
Unless
I'm
mistaken,
which
everything
should
be
going
to
be
built
by
the
state,
it's
going
to
be
on
system
highway,
okay,
so
they're
working
out
the
details
of
what
highways
the
city
is
going
to
take
on
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
because
they
do
exchanges
like
that
now,
so
the
city
won't
be
participating
in
that
construction.
That's
the
way!
I
understand
it
could
be
wrong,
but
that's
why
I
understand
it.
AB
AB
Q
W
Q
AB
Q
A
And
he's-
and
I
asked
him
directly-
he
says
the
earliest
textile
would
be
able
to
fund
these
projects.
It's
like
23,
because
the
22
moneys
are
already
committed,
but
that's
what
he
told
us
at
this
commission
and
but
okay,
let
me
ask
you
a
quick
question
dan
before
you
leave.
Maybe
you
can
help.
The
state
is
short
of
money
there
to
complete
the
project
which
is
going
to
be
a
state.
You
know
funded
project.
A
AB
But
it's
only
programmed
to
be
don't
get
me
wrong.
It's
not
the
full
freeway
section
that
we
want
it's
going
to
be
kind
of
like
mine's
road,
like
bob
bullock
at
the
beginning.
Is
that
great?
You
know
they're
going
to
do
the
the
frontage
roads,
yeah
and
so
where
it
connects
to
mines.
Road,
we're,
gonna,
look
at
a
traffic
signal
where
it
connects.
AB
It's
not
gonna
be
a
bridge
there
that's
planned
for,
but
it
won't
be
until
later
so,
and
that's
where
charles
ruthenger
yeah
and
on
on
the
I-35
side,
they
do
have
plans
they've
committed
and
I'm
sure,
there's
a
year
that
they've
already
have
on
that
to
do
an
interchange
at
35
and
then
hopefully
connect
all
that
area.
That's
to
the
south,
where
the
majestic
developmental
that
yeah,
that's
the
that's,
that's
the
big
plan.
That's.
AB
AB
AB
D
All
right
do
you
still
want
those
numbers?
I
was
able
to
find
the
tip
online
here
and
it
is
broken
up
into
two
projects:
the
achar
roofinger
described
as
from
1472
to
0.1
miles
east
of
beltway.
It's
got
a
total
construction
cost.
Of
course.
This
is
with
preliminary
engineering
right
away
all
of
that
33,
but
construction
is
28
million
five,
twenty
five
hundred
and
thirty
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
it
is.
D
AC
A
AC
AC
Allocation,
how
much
84
million
dollars
the
first
payment
the
first
year
was
42.50?
Yes,
and
what
can
you
use
those
monies
for
infrastructure
infrastructure?
There's
we
haven't
gotten.
The
final
guidelines
from
the
the
treasury
department
was
still
waiting
for
that,
but
there
are
some
guidelines
for
utilities:
clean
water
sources,
I.t
cyber
security.
That's
the
only
guidelines
that
we
know
so
far
is.
AC
A
AC
U
G
AC
K
AC
AC
G
AC
AC
AC
They
just
release
a
a
statement,
a
statement
saying
that,
okay,
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
claim
a
reimbursement-
and
it
was
not
not
an
allowable
expense-
then
you
can
you
can
you
can
submit
a
another
reimbursable
thing
or
you
can
supplant
or
something
second,
so
plant
it
yeah
saying
that
okay,
people
are
going
to
make
mistakes
and
they
don't
even
know
what
they're
going
to
correct.
I
understand
okay.
G
Okay,
so
I
I
I
think,
the
as
mr
luinia
said
earlier.
I
think
that
the
consensus
on
the
commission
and
and
and
obviously
the
direction
you
take
is
coming
from
council,
not
not
from
us,
but
that
there
is
a
concern
that
mobility,
in
particular
related
to
trade,
is
somehow
being
left
behind
yes,
and
that
there
should
be
a
re-effort
to
look
for
local
funds
to
make.
G
At
least
one
of
the
projects
whole,
hopefully
by
a
ceo
is,
is
a
one
closer
in
and
the
one
most
affecting
traffic,
and
I
I
think
that
you
need
to
express
to
council
what
the
concern
is.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
take
blame
for
it.
You
you
just
need
to
designate
that
the
commission
as
a
whole
is
is
basically
asking
if
there's
any
way
to
be
able
to
look
at
all
the
sources
of
funding
that
the
city
has
and
to
see.