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08-02-18 Planning & Zoning Commission
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A
Very
good:
does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
mister
yet
on
this
play?
If
not,
what
are
the
wishes
motion
to
approve?
Second
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all
those
in
favor
aye.
Those
against
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Next
item
is
item
7b.
The
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plan
of
London
Square,
the
antennas
commercial.
The
site
is
1.8.
Tie-Breaker
track
is
located
west
of
Casa,
Verde,
Road
and
north
of
Jackman
Road.
There's
only
four.
This
one
lot.
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A
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H
Good
evening,
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
Olivia
Holland
engineering
I'm
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
on
the
project.
There
are
a
couple
of
comments
that
we
do
would
like
to
discuss
and
kind
of
in
a
way.
The
first
one,
the
easier
one
is
I,
know,
there's
a
comment
by
traffic
and
it's
the
third
one.
If
we
can.
H
There's
a
comment
that
the
street
farmer
Road
and
the
elementary
school
driveway
here
and
farmer
road
that
they
could
be
to
close
when
the
original
landowner
eg
ranch
conveyed
the
elementary
school
to
you
is
d.
There
were
an
agreement
that
a
road
needed
to
be
built
South
on
the
along
the
South
property
line
of
the
school,
and
that
gave
the
school
access
to
that
road.
H
It
just
wasn't
built
when
the
school
was
developed,
but
it
was
put
on
the
responsibility
of
the
developer
at
that
time,
which
carried
over
to
any
other
subsequent
developers
that
purchased
that
that
that
land,
so
this
road
is
bound
by
the
deed.
At
the
agreement
of
when
the
transfer
of
land
was
was
given
to
you
is
D,
there's
an
existing
already
access
easement
there
we're
just
putting
the
road
that's
required
based
off
of
that
agreement.
H
H
J
H
Okay
and
then
so
this
this
road
gives
you
is
D
in
the
future,
an
emergency
access
or
an
additional
access
to
tie
into
this
road
for
for
better
circulation
and
and
that's
what
they've
been
wanting
more
and
more
as
as
you
as
he
develops,
they
want
more
furniture
along
yeah.
They
would
love
to
have
four
roads
around
their
school.
H
H
H
K
Seen
Annie
Kuster
from
traffic
department.
The
reason
we
make
these
kind
of
comments
is
because
when
we
have
driveways
and
streets
there
are
too
close.
That
creates
our
points
of
conflicts
and
the
closer
you
have
them.
The
more
point
of
conflicts
you
create
and
there's
a
bigger
possibility
of
accidents,
because
the
drivers
are
not
gonna,
have
the
time
to
react
and
maneuver
to
make
the
terms
the
necessary
terms.
So
that's
that's
the
reason
why
we
make
that
comment.
K
E
H
And
the
reason
is
because
those
are
the
restrictions
that
we
have
on
the
land
if
it
were
up
to
us,
we
wouldn't
have
that
road
there,
but
we
have
to
we're
bound
by
the
agreement
that
you
isd
made
with
the
original
landowner,
or
we
have
to
put
a
road
there.
There
already
is
an
access
easement
there
we're
just
putting
now
the
improvements
for
that
access
easement.
So.
K
K
H
E
H
We
can
we
can
fix
it
at
the
time
of
one-stop-shop
more
than
happy
to
discuss
that
I
think
when
everything
comes
to
light
and
the
deeds
come
into
light.
I
have
the
deeds
here.
I,
don't
want
to
go
through
all
that
where
the
D
tab,
an
access
easement,
the
agreements
are
there,
you
know
I,
just
I
know
certain
comments
when
they
come
to
P
and
Z,
and
if
we
don't
abide
by
them,
it
could
be
binding
for
us.
K
A
Something
on
this
thing
because
I
think
the
solutions
there's
a
net
that
carbonate
can
I
can
I.
Ask.
Let
me
finish.
Let
me
just
finish:
I,
don't
think
the
solution
to
this
is
that
complex.
You
know,
by
a
budding
this
particular
street
that
you're
built
in
here
through
a
contractual
agreement
of
the
school
district.
If
a
conflict
on
the
right
turns
becomes
a
problem,
they
will
probably
I
mean
from
a
logical
point
of
you.
You
would
close
that
driveway
and
open
one
over
here
is
that
thermal
road
in
the
bottom?
A
K
Books,
you
can
find
you
can
find
it.
It
shows
that
when
you
have
Road
intersecting,
it
shows
it
shows
you
all
the
points
of
conflict.
So
when
you
bring
these
two
roads,
closer
you're
gonna
create
more
points
of
conflict.
It
is
in
a
book.
It
is
not
an
ordinance,
but
it
is
in
the
books
of
the
sign,
because.
D
D
We
had
Colonel
samples
but
notice
it
has
the
same
issue.
Those
never
brought
up
when
we
had
the
sunny
see
that
all
the
mentary
scope,
which
we've
had
that
plat
come
before
us
numerous
times.
It's
never
been
brought
up
for
some
reason.
It's
brought
up
now
and
and
I
just
find
it
suspicious
that
we
bring
in
restrictions
that
have
never
been
used
before
never
been
brought
up
before
yeah.
K
K
Awesome
telling
you
it's
not
an
ordinance,
but
you
can
find
guidance
on
the
books
and
he
is
from
is
based
on
experience
like
maybe
in
the
past.
We
wouldn't
implement
things
that
we
already
knew,
but
then,
after
card
car
start
colliding
in
certain
ways
is
when
we
are
like.
No,
we
have
to
take
specific
look
into
this.
K
D
So
does
you
ISD
UIC
has
a
department
dedicated
to
setting
up
incoming
traffic
outgoing
traffic?
In
fact
they
separate
people
that
are
walkers
as
compared
to
bus
riders
as
compared
to
drop-offs,
and
so
they
and
they
actually
have
people
that
stand
there
and
inspect
these
every
day.
In
fact,
in
two
weeks
when
school
opens
up,
you
is
descends
people
to
do
this.
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
like
sometimes
there's
other
community
inspect
this
a
lot
more
then
the
city
does
and
I
would
kind
of
defer.
H
Can
further
answer
that
and
I
think
see
now
he
is
saying
that,
yes,
we
do
have
guidelines
to
follow
certain
spacing
within
driveways.
However,
in
schools,
since
they're
kind
of
a
different
animal
they've
gone
a
little
bit,
so
it's
mainly
peak
traffic.
It's
not
constant
traffic
all
day,
so
so
the
way
the
traffic
department
has
looked
at
it
is
the
school
has
controlled
axis
into
their
property,
so
they
have
crossing
guards.
H
They
have
security
guards
that
handle
this
type
of
traffic
in
this
situation,
and
so
that's
why
they're
allowed
to
have
these
type
of
driveways
if
it
were
any
other
business,
just
a
regular
business
that
doesn't
have
controlled
access?
Yes,
then,
you
can
really
get
out
of
control
and
have
kind
of
a
lot
of
points
at.
But
since
the
school
before
the
school
starts,
you
go
out
there
and
they
have
their
traffic
plan
and
they
provide
the
parents
with
how
everything's
going
to
flow.
They
put
their
crossing
guards
in
the
correct
place.
H
So
now
it's
more
of
a
controlled
traffic
police
traffic
monitors
to
handle
that
type
of
traffic
flow.
So
I
believe
that
that
that's
how
the
schools
have
gotten
these
these
projects
approved
because
they're
they
have
control
with
what's
going
on
in
their
entrance
here.
It
just
so
happens
that
the
streets
coming
after
the
fact,
but
the
street
is
pretty
much
the
the
monument
first
and
then
the
driveways
come
after.
So
it's
just
one
of
those
that,
yes,
you
would
try
to
avoid
it.
In
this
case,
it's
a
school.
H
K
So
what
might
happen
here
is
that
we
might,
in
the
future,
have
to
make
a
one-way,
although
it
is
very
hard
to
make
one
way
on
big
collectors
like
eg
orange,
we
avoid
doing
that.
We
haven't
done
one
way
in
big
collectors.
Being
being
that
this
is
a
big
collector.
It
will
be
hard
to
implement
a
way.
One
way
like
we
do
in
minor
streets
where
other
schools
are.
So
that's.
Why
we're
we're
catching
right
now
the
problem
we're
trying
to
catch
right
now,
the
problem
that
we
have
seen
in
the
past
I.
A
Think
I
think
Ricardo.
You
mentioned
that
one
of
the
biggest
problems,
usually
when
you
have
conflicts
like
that,
is
because
there
are
no
one
guiding
traffic
in
this
case,
peak
periods
of
the
school
you're
going
to
have
crossing
guards
or
whatever
they're
calling
stumbles
or
the
two.
You
know,
control
the
traffic
flows
and
there's
really
gonna
be
two
peak
periods.
It's
going
to
be
in
the
morning
in
the
afternoon.
Release
I,
don't
believe
that
there
should
be
a
problem
like
I
said
the
way
I
see
this
in
the
future.
A
If
they
do
see
that
the
driveways
are
too
close,
my
guess
is
that
they're
gonna,
probably
exit
out
the
former,
because
it's
again
or
right,
you
just
give
it
a
little
bit
more
spacing
and
it
should
work,
but
with
people
controlling
traffic,
I
I,
don't
see
a
conflict.
To
be
honest
with
you
at
this
point
and.
H
There
is
a
mechanism,
mr.
chairman,
oh
the
traffic
department,
if
they
do
see
conflicts
kind
of
like
text
on,
has
that
as
well.
If
they
see
conflicts
in
the
future
with
an
existing
driveway,
they
have.
You
know
the
ability
to
go
to
the
owners
and
say:
hey
we're,
gonna,
move
your
driveway
or
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
readjust
it
we're
gonna
readjust
traffic
patterns.
H
A
H
H
Give
a
little
bit
of
history
real,
quick,
a
little
quick,
one-minute
history
on
this.
This
project,
you
probably
recognize
in
the
previous
three
months,
where
we've
been
going
back
and
forth
on
on
what
the
plan
should
be
in
this
area.
So
the
original,
the
one
that
I
have
up
here
is
the
original
when
it
was
first
submitted
back
before
April,
and
so
we
submitted
this
project
kind
of
the
way
you
see
it
submitted
right
now.
H
Within
these
comments,
it
was
asked
to
extend
eg
ranch
and
wraparound
to
grass
way
road
which
and
to
provide
the
half
road
improvements
to
go
down.
So
we
went
ahead
and
agree
to
that
comment
and
when
we
got
into
the
running
of
actually
designing
taking
topography,
getting
all
the
necessary
information
to
go
forward
with
existing
design.
H
Eg
ranch
road
is
a
fifty
nine
foot
back
to
back
road
and
towards
the
southern
tip
of
it.
It
comes
down
to
52
foot
back
to
back.
So
the
reason
for
that
is
when
the
school's
platted
they
made
their
portion
a
little
bit
lighter,
but
it
was
originally
always
a
fifty
two
back-to-back
road.
So
when
we
started
designing
the
half
a
road,
it
ended
up
being
26
foot
wide
as
far
as
a
half
a
road.
A
H
One-Half
of
the
of
the
landowner
is
responsible
for
half
of
the
improvements
and
the
other
landowners
responsible
for
the
other
half.
However,
the
way
it's
done
is
what's
in
the
gray
area
in
the
code
book,
because
a
lot
of
times,
if
you
have
a
local
road,
that's
31
back
to
back
and
to
build
half
a
local
Road,
it
really
doesn't
make
sense.
15
and
a
half
or
15
foot
roadway
doesn't
make
sense.
Now,
if
you're
building
them
a
Pearson
type
Road,
which
is
65
and
you're
gonna
go
32.
H
H
Shiloh
Shiloh
was
connected
from
I-35
to
McPherson,
had
a
33
foot
with
that
was
done
because
you
were
connecting
to
roadways
and
you
needed
to
get
traffic
out,
and
so
in
that
case
the
roadways
so
large
that
you
can
build
half
a
road
and
it's
still
functionable
and
you're,
connecting
two
points
of
ingress
and
egress
in
this
case,
where
we're
in
the
same
boat
here
in
the
sense
that
there's
a
different
landowner,
now
EG
ranches
in
the
CIM
different
piece
of
property.
However,
there
is
an
access
easement
there.
H
So
when
we
came
originally
with
the
preliminary
plat
it
was
stated,
can
you
put
your
portion
of
the
road?
So
we
went
back,
we
looked
at
it.
We
started
designing
it.
When
we
started
getting
into
design,
it
ended
up
being
a
26
foot,
Road
now
26
foot
Road
is
not
really
that
functionable
and
number
one.
H
It's
not
that
functionable,
because
if
you
look
at
the
master
plan
which
we
are
looking
to
build,
this
is
phase
one
here
and
if
we
put
half
a
road,
this
suburban
collector
that
comes
in
that's
going
to
be
built
at
its
full
ultimate
stage.
So
when
we
come
with
the
next
phase-
and
we
come
with
the
next
phase-
you're
gonna
have
two
major
roads
that
are
gonna
be
connected
by
a
shoot,
a
short
er
or
a
narrower
piece
of
roadway.
So,
as
we
were
discussing,
we
were
discussing
with
the
client.
H
We
came
to
the
conclusion
then-
and
this
is
the
solution
for
this
scenario.
Instead
of
building
our
responsibility
of
half
a
road
or,
in
theory,
half
a
road
all
the
way
along
our
frontage,
let
us
build
the
entire
width
of
the
road
half
way
down.
So
that
way
you
get
the
full
width
of
the
road
right.
Now,
it's
half
way
down
what
that
happens
is
the
reason
you
also
want
to
do.
H
That
is
because
the
other
side
they're
not
developing
right
now,
so
we
don't
know
when
we're
gonna
get
the
other
half,
it
could
be
two
years
five
years
it
could
be
ten
years.
It
could
even
be
more
than
that.
So
that's
speculation,
which
is
hard
to
do.
We
know
we're
coming
in.
You
can
see
it
based
on
the
project
also
to
build
the
full
road
more
halfway
through
it
gets
beyond
our
suburban
collector.
So
as
we
keep
on
going,
both
roads
are
connected
now
by
a
more
efficient
system.
H
All
the
roads
are
built
to
ultimate
ultimate
with
the
only
thing
was
that
we
asked
was.
We
asked
we'll
agree
to
that
if
we
can
defer
those
improvements
to
the
next
residential
phase
and
that's
when
so
between
the
first
preliminary
approval
and
then
the
preliminary
reconsideration
within
that
time,
when
we
started
to
get
into
design-
and
we
were
in
design
when
we
started
figuring
out
hey
this
isn't
gonna
be
as
good
as
what
we
wanted
to
be
for
the
community
and
for
the
developer.
This
is
his
main
entrance.
H
So
last
thing
we
want
is
people
to
come
in
into
a
shoot
to
get
into
the
main
entrance
of
the
of
the
subdivision,
so
we
proposed
a
plan
to
staff
to
build
half
the
road
halfway.
I
mean
the
full
road
half
way
down
our
frontage,
but
if
we
can
put
those
improvements
in
the
second
phase,
when
it's
actually
needed
now,
the
reason
we
took
it
off
as
well
is:
let
me
go
back
to
the
the
plat
that
was
submitted
here
now.
This
is
a
149
lot.
H
Development,
with
a
five
acre
multi-family
tract
we're
already
building
a
local
collector
next
to
the
school.
This
local
collector
is
41
back
to
back
in
comparison,
you're,
looking
at
a
Country
Club
Drive
Road
that
doesn't
have
any
lots
running
other
than
the
multifamily
just
like
that
Road
does,
and
so
one
of
the
concerns
was.
Can
that
road
handle
the
amount
of
traffic?
Well,
a
local
collector
to
this
magnitude
that
can
have
two
lanes
in
a
turning
lane
based
off
of
the
I.t
on
average
it
can
can
handle
about
eighteen
thousand
cars
average
daily
traffic.
H
This
subdivision
is
estimated
to
generate
about
two
thousand
so
that
local
collector,
that's
already
been
proposed
in
the
first
phase,
can
handle
the
traffic.
The
next
issue
was:
do
we
need
this
for
a
secondary
axis?
At
this
point,
we
did
meet
with
the
fire
department.
The
fire
department
code
is
not
is
more
well,
obviously,
they
followed
original
land
development
code
in
subdivision
ordinance,
but
they
also
follow
the
the
international
fire
code
which
in
Section
D
107.
H
Once
you
get
past
a
design
of
30
Lots,
you
need
a
proposed
a
second
axis,
to
tie
into
future
development.
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
you
have
to
tie
it
in
right
now.
It
just
means
that
once
you
get
past
30
lots,
you
need
to
start
figuring
out
that
in
the
future
it's
gonna
have
to
have
a
second
axis.
So
when
we
go
back
to
our
development,
we
originally
had
a
cola
SEC
here
we're
opening
it
up
here.
Actually,
let
me
get
back
to
the
master
plan.
H
It'll
be
a
lot
easier
to
see
which
the
comments
in
the
master
plan
for
fire
were
addressed
in
the
master
plan,
so
there'll
be
another
axis
on
the
northern
northern
end,
there'll
be
an
axis
here
to
the
suburban
collector
they'll,
be
one
here
and,
of
course,
the
local
collector
that
will
build
it
now.
So,
within
this
149
Lots
we're
providing
four
entrance
and
exits
off
of
this
off
of
the
subdivision.
Now
that
people
wrote-
or
you
already
like,
are
you
gonna,
clear
it
out
and.
H
Say
to
Mary
it'll
be
cleared
up
from
grass.
Wait,
eg,
ranch,
okay
and
it'll
be
cleared
up
for
the
reason
that
we
have
to
tie
in
a
water
line
to
loop,
our
water
line
system.
And
if
you
look
at
the
aerial
of
the
project,
you
can
see
the
school
there
there's
an
existing
18
inch
water
line
that
runs
south
of
eg
ranch
and
then
it
cuts
west.
So
you
can
see
that
there's
already
a
path
there.
H
This
is
the
area
here
where
we're
gonna
tie
in
so
we're
gonna,
clear
a
little
bit
more
here
to
tie
in
the
water
line,
so
in
essence,
you're
gonna
have
a
clearing.
Now,
when
we
met
with
fire
to
see
if
they
needed
this
road,
they
stated
that
they
didn't
need
the
road.
However,
they
were
concerned
with
the
secondary
axis,
because
if
you
can
get
a
secondary
axis
is
great,
so
we
went
ahead.
They're
requesting
an
all-weather
road
down,
eg
ranch
to
connect
to
grass
way
roots
and
which
we've
we've
we've
agreed
to.
H
On
that
all
the
way,
the
road
it's
gonna
follow
the
ranch
road
and
it's
also
gonna
follow
the
water
line.
That's
existing
there,
so
they'll
I
know
there's
a
concern.
If
something
happens
within
the
subdivision,
and
in
here
they'll
have
an
axis
around
an
emergency
axis
around.
There
will
be
technically
a
public
axis
because
it
won't
be
a
blacktop.
It
won't
be
dedicated
to
the
city,
but
there'll
be
an
offsite
access.
You
too
there's
already
a
utility
and
access
easement
there
and
they'll,
be
it's
just
gonna,
be
mirrored
again
for
the
fire
department.
H
So,
on
this
comment,
I
know
the
common
states
that
we
want
if
we
can
revert
back
to
the
original
one,
where
we
build
half
a
road
and
we
just
don't
think
it's
as
efficient
as
this
plan.
We
know
it's.
The
first
phase.
First
phases
on
big
developments
usually
takes
something
like
this
to
get
going.
You
there's
multiple
examples
around
town,
alexander
winfield,
you
know
lakeside.
They
all
had
way
way
more
than
three
hundred
four
hundred
lots
before
they
even
had
a
second
axis.
H
You
know-
and
so
here
we're
planning
on
providing
this
road
here
and
the
section
that
says
in
the
in
the
next
phase.
You
know
so
we're
not
gonna
have
to
wait
until
phase
five
phase.
Six,
that's
our
plan
for
this
one.
There
is
a
comment
in
the
in
the
master
plan
to
reface
the
the
subdivisions
which
we're
obliging
to
that
phase.
Two
will
stay
the
park
because
that's
required
so
phase
three
will
change
to
this
area
south
of
that.
H
F
H
Yes,
an
ex-president
it
had
to
be
residential
the
park
we
have
to
dedicate
the
park
and
provide
access
to
the
park.
You
know
offsite
access,
so
we
can
do
that.
I
mean
ideally
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
sit
here
and
think
positive,
because
I
guess
we
all
should
think
positive
right.
So
we're
gonna
follow
phase
three,
which
is
153
Lots,
so
that
road
will
be
built
all
the
way
to
the
park.
You
know.
So
that's
that's
the
way
it's
planned
now
now.
I
can't
control
economics.
I
can't
control
any
of
that.
H
But
if
we're
seeing
the
trend,
we've
been
seeing
the
last
three
four
years
where
people
are
waiting
outside
this
door
for
lots
to
open
up.
That's
really
a
possibility
this
this
project
that
we
see
here
this
phase,
one
will
probably
be
completed
in
the
next
year
year
and
a
half
on
the
ground
with
the
next
phase,
starting.
You
know
a
couple
of
months
after
that,
but.
H
If
we're,
even
if
we
just
complete
phase
one
not
until
we
do
a
next
one
is
when
the
other
Road
is
needed,
it's
it's
not
a
it's
a
necessity
for
the
entire
development,
but
it's
not
needed
for
this
phase
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
convey
here
and
I
know.
I've
met
with
fire
on
that
I
know.
Maybe
there
might
be
some
don't
we.
L
Development,
yes,
sir
for
30,
Homer
30
dots,
if
it's
a
dead-end,
was
only
one
way
for
over
30
you
need
to,
but
like
he
said
earlier,
with
the
exception,
which
is
number
two
exception,
number
two.
If
you
have
a
future
which
they're
showing
us
on
the
master
plan,
there's
gonna
be
future
voice
in
and
out
so
they're.
Using
this
exception
work
they
can
go
up
to
130
140
and
the
the
document.
A
First,
so
the
fire
code,
the
Wade
reads
right
now
says:
if
you're
gonna
have
and
I
can
see
the
rationale.
Obviously,
in
the
future,
you're
gonna
have
streets,
I
guess
my
concern
right
now
is
we're
going
to
take
off
with
149,
Lots
and,
let's
say,
takes
off
like
wildfire
and,
let's
say
Parma
Road
has
a
problem
and
there's
no
way
out.
How
do
you
get
the
people
out.
L
A
L
A
Let
me
ask
you
a
hypothetical
question
Rick
as
an
engineer:
yes,
sir.
Obviously
as
the
street
comes
in
in
the
future,
putting
caliche
down
and
all-weather
road-
and
you
know
making
it
75,000
pounds,
heavy
heavy
duty,
type
standards,
how
I
guess
and-
and
this
is
just
like
I-
said
a
question-
I,
don't
know
how
much
more
expensive
would
it
be
to
black
top
that
and
just
have
a
functional,
I
I.
H
Back
to
back
with
blacktop
curb
and
at
the
typical
section
that
the
city
requires
there
so
right
now,
we
would
only
have
to
design
for
an
all-weather
Road.
That's
seventy
five
thousand
pounds
in
this
second
case.
It
would
have
to
be
full-blown
city
code
curbing
gutter
base.
It
would
have
to
be
the
surface
the
writing
surface,
so
it
carries
a
lot
more
parameters
that
really
make
this
more
expensive.
H
Also
in
this
area
here,
where
this,
where
we're
creating
this
ditch,
it's
a
crossing,
that's
going
to
require
a
big
culvert,
and
that
also
is
is
it
increases
the
price?
That's
why
it's
really
only
about
850
to
900
feet
in
total
length,
but
that
culvert
I
believe
we
preliminary
size
it
at
two.
Six
by
three
boxes,
if
my
mind
serves
me
correctly,
is.
E
L
May
be
sure
that
those
comments
are
not
coming
from
the
fire
department
because
they
are
complying
with
with
our
code.
They
are
complying
with
the
butter
they're
gonna
they're
gonna
build
it
work,
we're
in
favor
of
it,
but
we're
not
we're
not
telling
them
to
do
it
because
they
are
complying
already
because
in
the
future,
they're
shown
voice
in.
E
J
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
my
name
is
Victor
Lopez
I'm,
the
one
that
reviews
the
plat
for
the
party
department,
mr.
chairman
I'm,
sorry,
my
trust
in
you
and
that
the
Commission,
when
we
reviewed
originally
on
the
preliminary
face
and
everything
that
was
the
first
thing,
that
I
looked
at
the
master
plan.
The
way
the
code
reads:
the
International
fire
code,
which
was
adopted
by
the
city
of
Laredo
back
in
2012.
It
does
allow,
as
long
as
it
shows
future
the
future
streets
to
connect
Ellsworth
to
have
more
exits.
J
Okay,
so,
first,
when
we
I
reviewed
the
plat,
including
phase
one,
that's
why
I
retracted
my
comment
on
the
second
second
time
and
it
did
correct
it.
If
you
look
at
this
one
here,
that
was
one
of
my
comments
that
particular
phase
it
didn't
meet
the
requirements
that
we
were
writing.
So
we
when
I
asked
them.
They
went
ahead
in
there
at
that.
So
that's
a
change
for
the
future.
Okay,
this
one.
Another
comment
that
I
had
was
the
the
width
of
the
cul-de-sac.
J
Well,
once
we
review
closer
on
the
cul-de-sac,
because
we're
showing
50
well
as
long
as
on
the
cul-de-sac
is
that
that
particular
section
of
the
street
is
no
longer
than
150.
It's
allowed
that
field
now
I
will
speak
for
the
engineering
department
if
they
have
to
be
64,
they'll
be
60,
but
as
far
as
us
are
concerned,
that'll
be
enough
for
us,
because
we
can't
for
something
that
it's
not
on
the
code.
Now
as
far
as
the
development,
those
exits
are
there.
So
we're
not
saying
is
a
set
precedence.
J
We
are
looking
at
everything
the
way
we
should
so
two
x's
are
good
yeah,
Oh,
we'd
love.
If
both
exit
face1
the
way
the
planning
department
was
requesting
it,
but
if
we
at
least
for
the
emergency
access
road
to
be
an
all-weather
road
gated
with
thoughts
only
for
you,
specifically
as
an
emergency
access
road,
we're
good
with
that.
Okay,
okay,
so.
J
It
was
never
that
it
was
overlooked
because
we
are
going
to
get
those
things
very
closely
and
including
other
master
plans
that
came
a
long
time
ago.
We
try
to
see,
we
can
change
it
so
much.
We
can
do
because
one
of
the
things
that
what
was
the
quote
at
that
time
we
are
looking
at
the
code.
This
is
a
brand-new
master
plan,
that's
coming
in
and
we
are
thinking
and
all
those
things.
Okay,.
F
A
J
L
J
E
I
B
Have
a
comment,
a
couple
things
yeah.
First
of
all,
if
you're
going
to
design
subdivisions
based
upon
the
fire
code,
when
what
you're
talking
about
is
emergencies
and
life
safety
and
not
talking
about
the
quality
of
life
mobility,
traffic
of
the
residents
in
that
area,
then
you
know
that's
up
to
you
all,
but
a
second
interest
there
absolutely
needed.
If
there's
an
accident
there,
how
are
the
folks
going
to
get
out
gonna
use
that
fire
road
I,
don't
think
so
they
can't
they're
gonna.
They
can
but
they're
not
supposed
to
do
so.
B
There's
no
other
way
for
them
to
get
out
and
on
any
road
I
mean
it's
true.
You
have
a
huge
accident,
I
mean
look
at
I-35,
it's
gonna
get
blocked
right,
but
most
of
the
time
you
go
around
it
here
you
mess
up
that
intersection
and
that's
stripped
there
nobody's
getting
out
unless
they
use
that
fire
access
road.
It's
not
fair.
B
The
residence
number
one
number
two,
it's
true
we've
had
this
happen
before
and
other
subdivisions,
and
we
have
learned
over
time
that
it's
a
problem
for
the
residents
and
for
for
fire
and
for
everybody
else
not
to
have
paved
entrances
going
into
their
subdivisions.
At
least
two
we've
learned
that
so
he's
been
turned
back
the
clock
and
we
can
continue
to
make
the
same
mistakes
over
and
over
look
at
Concord
Hills
what's
happening
over
there.
You
don't
have
enough
connectivity
got
a
huge
problem.
B
He
was
just
here
a
couple
weeks
ago
talking
about
that
Concord
Hills
and
there's
no
Road,
and
we
need
a
road
and
all
this
stuff.
Well,
the
developers
didn't
put
the
roads
in
and
the
Commission
didn't
ask
them
to
put
the
roads
in
and
now
we're
stuck
with
a
problem
where
these
folks
have
got
only
one
way
of
getting
in
and
when
we
get
out,
they've
got
no
other
access
and
that's
what
we're
perpetuating
we
keep
doing
it.
B
All
the
way
down
to
halfway
the
full
length
and
I
think
he
needs
to
turn
it
in,
and
he
needs
have
that.
Second,
access
to
that
subdivision
I
mean
it's
just
the
safest
way.
It
also
ensures
the
city
that
it's
there
if
development
stops,
those
folks
aren't
aren't
frustrated
in
the
future
that
they
never
got
that
extra
access,
that's
being
promised,
we've
seen
that
happen
or
they're
gonna,
get
it
in
two
years
or
three
years
or
what
did
tell
you
Anna?
Don't
worry,
we'll
get
it
in
a
while?
B
H
Agree:
I
do
agree
that
we've
been
progressing
for
the
example
of
Concord
Hills
Concord
Hills.
When
it
was
developed,
it
was
developing
pockets
and
the
pockets
didn't
have
a
way
out.
So
we're
we're
adjusting
is
in
the
master
plan,
we're
not
adjusting
in
the
phasing
and
to
get
development
up
and
going
we're
adjusting
in
the
master
plan.
If
I
were
to
compare
this
master
plan
to
Concord
Hills,
this
whole
1069
lot
development.
Would
it
have
another
out
here?
Our
suburban
collector
is
the
next
east-west
road.
H
That's
going
to
parallel
359,
so
as
development
continues
that
roads
going
to
continue
so
you're
not
going
to
have
the
Concord
Hills
issue
anymore,
plus
we
have
multiple
points
of
ingress
and
egress
throughout
our
entire
subdivision
to
our
neighbors.
So
it's
the
responsibility
also
of
the
neighbors
to
keep
that
going.
H
So
that's
where
we
made
an
adjustment
in
the
evolution
of
the
problems
that
we've
had
in
concord,
hills,
concord,
hills,
you
don't
see
an
east/west
collector
up
until
you
get
to
los
presidentÃs,
which
that's
the
next
one
planned
and
Nathan's
right,
we're
working
on
those
precedences
right
now
and
we're
working
on
a
second
axis,
but
concord
hills
has
over
800
Lots
I'm,
not
I,
know
about
800
Lots,
which
is
you
know,
an
incredible
amount.
I
do
agree.
H
Yes,
we
do
not
want
to
get
to
that
point,
but
we
are
planning
in
the
master
plan
which
we
included
all
the
comments
by
planning
by
the
fire
department
to
add
these
roads
that
never
end
per
se.
We're
not
developing
a
one
1,000
lot
development
and
have
a
cul-de-sac
at
the
end
of
my
collector
know:
it's
gonna
go.
The
only
thing
is
progress
and
development
wish
I
can
do
a
thousand
lots
in
one
face
and
then
we
abide
by
our
master
plan
but
I.
H
E
B
B
Fire
code
is
an
ordinance
and
it
does
say
you
got
to
have
two
entrances.
Okay,
it
just
doesn't
say
they
have
to
be
dedicated
public
right
of
ways.
What
we're
saying
is
based
on
the
comp
plan,
based
on
what
we've
seen
it
needs
to
be
and
dedicated
right
away.
Full
Street,
so
folks
can
get
in
and
out
now.
I
will.
B
I
will
also
point
to
the
fact
that
this
is
an
area
where
they're
coming
in
with
new
development,
there's
no
other
developments
around
their
correct
other
than
the
schools
and
there's
only
one
way
in
and
out
on
e
G
ranch.
Okay,
so
that
is
that
is.
That
is
a
problem
right,
because
you're
gonna
have
all
those
folks
backing
up
when
they
get
up
to
359.
Why?
Because
there's
no
other
development
that
is
pushing
up
that
way.
B
F
H
With
a
stand
up
curb
in
the
middle,
that's
why
we
designed
it
the
way
it
was
would
curb
in
the
middle
yeah,
stand
up
curb
that
it
could
break
away.
So
when
the
other
guys,
when
the
neighbors
come,
they
just
expanded
so
that
that
was
what
was
requested
of
us
as
we
got
into
design,
it
wasn't
efficient,
and
so
that's
that
I'm
here,
because
my
clients
are
here-
and
the
last
thing
we
want
is,
although
an
opinion
has
been
made
that
maybe
the
care
for
the
citizens
is
not
in
our
priority.
H
That's
definitely
in
our
priority.
This
is
about
I,
mean
we're
trying
to
get
citizens
to
come
into
the
development
and
and
purchase
Lots
and
live
here.
The
park
requirement
is
roughly
five
six
acres
or
donating
over
close
to
thirty
acres
and
in
when
everything
is,
is
set
in
and
and
done,
there's
going
to
be
three
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
that
are
gonna
be
paid
in
park
fee
that
we
hope
that
we
come
into
agreement
that
we
put
it
in
that
park.
H
So
this
here
is
being
mirrored
like
the
other
great
parks
in
town,
North,
Central
Park,
where
you
have
trails
where
you
have
ponds
where
you
have
everything,
that's
what
we're
doing
here
and
my
and
my
client
is
wanting
a
put
of
good
product
out
there
now
necessity
and
kind
of
wanting
something
are
two
totally
different
things
on
the
spectrum
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
differentiate.
Do
we
need
it
now
we
don't
we're
still
gonna
get
put
in
we're.
Not
here
saying
we
never
want
to
put
in
the
road.
H
E
I
strongly
believe
that
that
road
needs
to
be
built
before
we
have
to
the
first
place.
It
should
go
with
with
the
first
place,
not
have
a
road,
but
the
whole
Road
see
I.
Think
that's.
The
best
design
I
think
is
the
best
for
the
people
that
are
gonna
buy
they're.
The
people
that
are
gonna
leave
their
proudly
you're,
not
gonna.
Do
their
I
probably
want
you
they're?
E
With
the
fire
department,
I
really
don't
agree,
I
think
the
second
axis
we
granted
and
should
be
completely
finished.
They
come
in
access
to
the
community,
not
with
a
king,
okay,
but
actually
was
a
true
access
in
and
out,
see
and
I'm.
Sorry
for
that
combat
fire
department.
But
that's
that's
the
way
I
feel
I'm
here
to
represent
the
community.
I
might
not
have
a
friend
tomorrow,
but
I'm
here,
to
represent
the
community
in
that
to
side
on
on
something
that
I
don't
agree
with
it
see.
I,
don't
agree
with
that.
E
Kinda
think
is
very
poorly
set
up
before
us
build
the
road.
Let's
have
a
second
a
second
entrance
and
everybody's
not,
and
so,
if
you
talked
about
Burton
on
the
project,
all
the
projects
have
burns.
This
might
not
be
something
that
was
looked
over,
but
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
done
and
I
feel
that
it
needs
to
be
done
on
phase
one,
that
my
company
and.
H
I
will
I
do
want
to
add
real
quick
determine
is
there's
a
second
factor
here
on
the
burden.
I
really
need
to
mention
burden
on
my
client
because
we're
gonna
build
it.
It's
gonna
get
built
the
one
thing
we
want
don't
want
also,
and
we
see
it
all
the
time
is
we
build
roads
to
nowhere
where
there's
not
a
lot
of
traffic
and
I
wish.
H
There
was
a
representative
from
Public
Works
Department
here
and
when
you
build
a
road
that
doesn't
get
used
for
a
long
time
and
that
doesn't
have
the
amount
of
traffic
that
it
should
it
deteriorates
a
lot
quicker.
So
then,
now
you
start
putting
the
burden
on
the
city
and
maintenance.
So
now
my
main
entrance
that
wasn't
used
for
two
three
years
is
damaged
because
it
was
never
used
and
that's
my
main
entrance,
so
we're
also
looking
at
the
aspect
of
putting
out
a
good
product.
That's
gonna!
Last.
E
H
D
There's
no
mine's
gonna
be
changed.
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
preliminary
plat
consideration
subjects
the
following
comments.
With
the
amendment
of
planning.
Note
number
two
to
state
rather
continue:
eg
Road
and
connect
la
finca
up
to
grass
way
Drive
at
the
construction
of
the
second
resident.
I
guess
whatever's
face.
E
A
A
M
Okay,
this
is
the
CIP
program
that
it's
gonna
be
presented
at
the
budget
workshop.
It's
just
a
plan
is
nothing
finalized
errors.
Have
you
know
no
decision
made
on
the
projects
that
are
required
for
a
capital
for
a
CEO
just
once
from
the
enterprise
funds
I'll
get
to
that
in
just
a
little
bit,
so
you
might
be
different
from
the
one
that
we
submitted
to
you.
We
have
made
changes.
M
These
were
the
changes
and
the
amendments
were
gonna
propose
in
the
next
council
meeting.
These
are
changes
to
the
that.
We
learned
that
we
identified
the
the
different
funding
sources
were
wrong:
we're
just
moving
to
correct
the
the
funding
sources,
so
there's
no
real
impact
on
the
one,
but
we
submitted
that
you
should
all
have
gotten
last
week
and
the
next
one
do
they
do
have
an
impact
to
the
CIP.
M
Those
were
projects
that
were
added
were
not
included
in
the
original
one,
which
is
the
I-69
200
by
35,
with
a
total
cost
of
250
for
next
year
and
kill
them.
Turning
lanes
for
1.7
million
cuatro
Vientos
conquer
kills
1.5
by
a
CEO
road
5.2
million
Springfield
Avenue
Extension
305,
a
child
routing
girl
for
4.9
million
and
WC
didi
wrote
477.
M
M
The
biggest
one
in
the
airport
will
be
the
45
million
dollar
hanger
for
the
DHS
headquarters
that
they're
proposing
it's
ongoing
project
nothing's
being
finalized,
but
it's
there
next
will
be
parts.
We
have
the
Convention
Center
there
on
400
parts,
then
transit
and
general
government.
So
far
we
move
for
the
funding
sources.
It's
just
the
same.
That
I
showed
you
just
in
a
different
format,
have
grants
totaling,
21
million
dollars
and
system
revenues?
Eight
million
dollars
DWD
be
long.
48
million
dollars
that
form
another
script.
M
The
unfunded
heels,
that's
where
the
council,
members
of
you
all,
can
recommend
something:
that's
83
million
dollars
that
we
have
in
projects
out
there
in
request
that
there
is
currently
no
funding
source
right
now
identified
so
far,
and
right
now
we're
on
the
process
of
getting
with
with
our
financial
consultant
I.
Believe,
there's
there's
a
window
of
issuing
that
it
will
be
around
ten
million
dollar,
ten
million,
ten
million
or
ten
to
eleven
million,
or
something
like
that.
M
M
Utilities
has
those
those
requests
right
now,
but
they
the
latest
that
I
heard
from
them.
They
can
issue
only
five
which
would
be
for
equipment
and
they
can
move
for
later
years
their
remaining
projects-
it's
it's
based
on
needs
that
they
have
right
now.
But
if
you're
talking
about
capacity,
they
do
have
the
capacity
to
issue
that
up
to
five
up
to
twenty
six,
they
can.
A
A
Sixteen
here
is
we're,
saying:
hey:
we
condition
you
dead
because
we're
going
to
keep
increasing
you
know
the
cost
of
the
utilities
to
the
residents.
I
mean
that's
what
that's
what's
going
on
here,
but
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
look
at
a
enough
is
enough,
if
all
in
terms
of
stuff
going
up
and
I
think
we
need
to
start
looking
at
okay,
it's
the
Utilities
Department
solvent
enough
right
now,
because
they've
had
a
lot
of
big
projects.
We've
got
the
the
plant.
A
N
Good
evening,
man
for
the
record
executive
director
of
Finance
90,
overseen
budget
and
you're
right
as
far
as
the
ordinance
and
obviously
the
ordinance
was
done,
because
this
is
only
a
portion
of
every
other
needs.
That
utilities
has
utilities
has
a
own
CIP,
which
includes
various
projects
and
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
growth.
If
the
water
system
is
the
one,
that's
a
little
bit
more
solvent
the
one
that's
currently
somewhat,
an
entire
position
is
who
are
currently
right.
N
Now,
what
we're
doing
is
we
hired
a
consultant
to
do
a
rate
study
and
compared
to
the
needs
of
the
system,
so
that
we
can
see
exactly
how
much
we
can
afford,
based
on
the
ordinance
that
we
have
in
place?
Based
on
what
you
said,
we
do
not
have
necessarily
excess
funding.
As
an
example,
there's
two
prot
there
there's
one
more
project
out
of
these
26.
That's
not
here
right
now
and
that's
a
48
million
dollar
wastewater
treatment
plant
in
Montana,
so
we
were
to
do
26
in
the
48.
We
body
wouldn't
have
the
capacity.
N
Right
now,
what
we're
looking
at
is
more
body
definitely
going
to
address
the
one:
that's
titled
equipment
variants
for
$5,000,000
the
rest
were
going
to
be
really
analyzed
to
see
which
are
important
and
a
must
in
order
to
continue
with
the
demands
of
the
system.
The
other
thing
that
I
can
mention
too
and
as
to
why
we're
also
only
night.
We
are
currently
on
study
by
Honeywell
to
look
at
the
circuit,
segata
wastewater
treatment
plant.
N
We
are
being
told
that
that
plan
can
be
retrofit
kind
of
like
what
we
did
in
the
north
south
north
side,
water
treatment
and
Shiloh,
which
was
I,
mean
I,
remember
back
then,
I
live
in
that
area,
I
used
to
really
smell
or
play
well,
they
went
ahead
and
revamped
it.
You
think
he
can't
smell
it
anymore.
N
So
right
now
it's
a
turning
point
for
utilities,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
being
looked
at
and
analyzed,
including
the
rate
studies
and
the
projects
and
where
the
demands
are
in
order
that
that
funding
that
we
have
because
of
the
ordinance,
is
in
place,
and
obviously
we
don't
want
any
surgery
increase
rates,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
make
a
decision
based
on
the
demand
of
the
system.
You
know
how
much
capacity
do
we
have
what's
the
future,
they
meant
that
South
is
really
growing.
N
So
we
will
be
looking
at
the
system
a
little
bit
closer
and
the
capacity
that
it
has
and
that's
why
we're
doing
various
things
we're
doing
the
rate
studies
indicated
we're
also
doing
a
study
on
our
meters
to
make
sure
that
they're
all
working
accordingly,
especially
the
big
ones,
to
make
sure
that
all
the
revenues
are
being
captured
and
and
so
forth
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
accountabilities
is
being
done
properly
and
obviously
we
don't
want
any
charade,
but
we're
looking
at
that.
Possibly
based
on
the
metro
systems,
thank
you,
I
just.
E
Have
a
comment:
real,
quick
mr.
Sherman
I
members
are
great,
they
have
contacted
me
and
they
become
if
they
see
a
lot
of
equipment,
all
equipment
on
the
back
yard
utilities
are
not
being
either
use
or
sold.
What's
I
see
that
we
got
five
million
for
new
equipment.
What
is
that?
What's
going
on?
There
I
mean
it's
an
equipment
that
is
gonna,
be
sold.
N
E
N
Don't
really
I
know
I've
seen
some
electrum,
but
I
can't
give
you
specifics.
I,
don't
know
specifically,
what's
in
there.
I
do
know
that
every
year
we
do
different
requirements,
whatever
it's
already
been
sitting
there
for
a
while
that
it's
already
so
it's
pretty
much
because
it's
over
over
it's
for
life,
we
do
have
an
auction
city
white
and
sell
all
that
extra
equipment
that
we
have
right
now.
N
M
Okay,
going
back
to
where
we
left
off
this
is
the
unfunded
CEO
projects
that
will
you
need
to
make
a
decision
with
during
the
budget
workshop
will
be
presented,
I
don't
know
who
wanted
to
go
through
all
of
them,
but
this
is
pretty
much.
The
laser
are
around
70
to
80
projects
out
there
I'm
sorry
how
many
projects
different
around
72.
There
are
20
project
yeah,
well
that
we
have
to
decide
which
one
are
the
priority
for
the
city
and
the
ones
that
make
it.
How.
A
M
These
are
the
main
ones.
Well,
not
the
main.
What's
all
that
made
of
the
82
million
dollars
that
we
have
there,
we
have
from
traffic
in,
like
I,
said
one
of
the
main
ones
will
be
the
forty
five
million
dollar
project
that
we
have
here.
That's
for
the
airport.
This
is
an
ongoing
project
right
now
and
that's
just
preliminary
numbers.
A
A
M
A
Design,
speed
of
a
new
bridge
structure
doesn't
have
to
be
at
highway
standards.
These
are
streets,
it
can
be
designed
at
35
or
40
that
we
can
use
the
existing
right-of-way
and
for
people
who
are
just
you
know,
say
traveling,
north
or
south.
They
can
utilize.
Structures
like
that
has
that
ever
been
looked
at
I
will.
I
A
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
because
I
think
it's
something
that
you
know
I
see
a
lot
of
unfunded
projects,
but
really
are
our
issues
in
that
is
or
mobility.
Yes,
and
because
your
mobility,
we
have
to
start
thinking
out
of
the
box
buying
right
away.
That's
in
a
McPherson
is,
you
know,
cost
prohibitive
with,
but
if
you
can
take
the
existing
right
away
and
say:
okay,
if
you're
gonna
go
over
delmar
over
international
blah
blah
blah-
and
you
just
do
some
real,
very
simple
bridge
structures
that
can
be
utilized
at
low
rates
of
speed.
A
That
may
solve
a
lot
of
mobility
issues.
Given
that
that's
one
of
them
well,
between
35
in
the
loop,
we
only
have
one
north
and
south
connection,
so
I
think
our
focus
should
really
go
into
looking
at.
How
do
you
take
and
if
you
go
to
California
you'll,
see
that
everywhere
California
runs
expressways,
where
you
have
traffic
going
one
way
and
the
top
layer
is
going
the
opposite
way.
M
A
M
A
M
M
N
A
month
for
the
record,
it's
in
discussions,
I
mean
there's
been
several
options,
one
of
the
ones
that
we
can
I've
heard
help
what
I
hopefully
it'll
be
something
like
that
is
that
they
will
lease
the
property
from
us
so
with
if
we
were
to
get
a
contract
as
an
example
with
DHS
and
we've
heard
from
3
million
to
6
million
dollars
annually.
True
or
not
true,
again
its
preliminary
discussions,
the
intent
is
that
we
can
fund
it.
There's
also
been
the
discussion.
N
Well,
if
a
private
individual
comes
in
and
develops
it
and
then
they
rent
it
and
they
pay
only
rent
for
the
land,
so
things
like
that
are
being
discussed
to
it,
but
basically,
right
now,
since
we're
not,
we
don't
have
a
set
plan,
but
they
want.
We
wanted
to
show
that
and
that
there,
because
it's
something
that's
moving,
it's
been
discussed
with
federal
government
and
hopefully
it'll
materialize
and
I
guess.
The
other
point
is
that
we
take
that
out
of
the
83
million
dollars.
That
leaves
is
only
really
38
million
dollars
to
work
with
that.
N
N
So
huge
compared
to
the
10
or
12
million,
but
this
this
is
one
of
the
ones
that
inflates
that
that
number
so
take
that
out
and
really
you're
left
with
38
million
dollars
to
be
funded
from
anywhere
between
10
to
12
million
dollars.
And
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
discussing
during
the
workshops
between
I
visit
13
and
the
15.
This
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
presentations.
N
A
A
C
A
M
Now
we
go
to
the
capital
outlay
request
from
during
the
budget
process,
each
department
submits
a
capital
outlay
request.
These
are
the
requests
that
they
were
submitted
again.
These
are
also
funded
through
either
CIO's
or
system
revenues.
You
see
on
your
on
your
right
side,
the
fund
that,
once
those
were
departments
or
funds
that
they
had
funds
available
in
their
way,
they
were
able
to
fund
the
request
with
their
own
system
revenues
which
is
Community
Development.
It
was
a
I
believe,
a
hot
car,
yes,
T
will
be
the
it's.
M
The
PAC
fund,
which
public
access
channel
environmental
for
quick
cleaning
bridge
fund
for
the
some
ad
for
the
immigrant
for
the
fast
lane,
municipal
housing,
I
believe
how
vehicle
to
and
some
ways
they
have
truck
watch
and
several
another
piece
of
equipment
right
there.
On
the
other
side,
you
have
the
apartments
that
are
basically
more
majority
of
them
are
general
fund,
so
there's
no
actual
system
revenue
to
fund
those
capital
library
requests.
M
So
it
will
be
part
of
the
bond
sale
of
the
decision
to
be
made
on
what
to
recommend
a
Municipal
Court
building
police
fire.
Those
who
being
the
most
significant
with
four
million
and
almost
six
million
dollar
per
buyer
traffic
public
words
and
not
one
of
the
big
ones
parts
and
have
animal
care,
CBB
and
Airport.
M
I
M
M
This
is
the
request.
This
is
just
a
breakdown
of
what
the
department
requests.
Municipal
Court
had
one
generator
in
case
the
power
power
goes
out:
buildings,
six
trucks,
traffic
at
strata,
two
parts
has
two
vehicles:
Animal
Care,
the
washer
and
dryer
network
servant
and
three
vehicles,
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau.
Cargo
van
has
the
same
as
Airport
and
public
words
have
a
whole
bunch
of
equipment
here
for
very
totals
two
million
dollars
for
public
works.
M
You
can
see
all
the
equipment
there,
it's
mostly
automotive
and
backhoe
back
host,
sweepers,
rollers
and
so
on.
The
fire
department,
that's
one
of
the
big
ones,
the
aerial
truck
for
1.5
million
dollars
and
a
RF
truck
1.2
million
dollars,
those
two
being
the
big
ones
and
the
breathing
apparatus.
The
first
740
that's
one
very
important
items
that
they
were
very
identify
as
one
of
the
needs,
as
well
as
a
fire
engine
for
six
hundred
and
eighty
four
thousand
dollars.
M
There
was
just
pictures
of
the
equipment
being
request,
fart
routes
and
networking
ambulances
and
monitors
almost
four
million
dollars
in
requests
from
the
fire
department
and
police.
Basically,
I
just
want
to
replace
5050
full
lip
with
mark
units.
That's
what
makes
the
bulk
of
the
request
for
three
million
dollars
and
that's
basically,
all
the
requests.
We
have.
Oh,
no,
if
you
have
any
more
questions
and
suggestions
and
comments
on
the
CIP.
E
M
They're
they're
supposed
to
get
the
number
from
from
our
purchasing
department.
We
have
what
we
call
the
Bible
by
board
port
and
we
get.
We
can
get
prices
from
there,
so
it
should
come
from
there.
That
leads
our
comparative
price
and
there
they
might
be
changes
by
the
time
it
gets
approved
so
but
it
should
be
somewhere
with
and
that
amount.
A
A
Development
code,
article
4,
section
24
point
62,
zoning
district
and
boundaries
to
delete
the
title
of
b4
zoning
classification,
highway
commercial
district
and
to
adopt
in
lieu
thereof
a
new
title
and
text
new
title
is
highway
commercial
district
and
creating
a
separate
zoning
district
for
the
highways
commercial
district
classification.
Adding
a
new
title
and
text
which
new
title,
big,
five
highway
commercial
district,
providing
for
publication
and
effective
date.
A
Background
on
this
particular
ordinance
would
be
that
the
plan
Department
finds
intensive
commercial
uses
may
not
be
appropriate
in
all
and
currently
zone.
Before
discussion
on
separate
zoning
district
from
the
current
highway
district,
commercial
district
classification
to
remove
the
more
intense
use
and
classified
under
b5
district
maps
continue
b5
district
all
right.
We
are
ready
to
listen
to
this
presentation.
B
Miss
Peterman
we
just
wanted
to
introduce
this
to
the
Commission.
Give
you
as
much
information
as
we
could.
The
motivation
behind
acquiring
a
new
district
or
looking
at
a
new
district
is
that
there
are
certain
uses
that
are
all
lumped
into
the
B
for
that
are
more
intense
and
may
be
less
desirable
than
many
folks
want,
and
so
by
moving
them
into
another
district.
The
standard
uses
in
the
b4
can
be
more
easily
accessed
if
you
will
so,
for
example,
a
lot
of
times
we're
looking
at
a
v4
zone
for.
B
You
know
any
of
the
before
permitted
uses.
We
also
look
at
what
is
the
the
result
if
they
don't
use
it
for
that,
what
expressed
use
and
then
they
open
up
a
bar
or
something
to
that
effect,
and
so
then,
we'll
you
know
kind
of
recommend
against
it,
because
there's
a
fear
that
you'll
introduce
those
types
of
uses
into
a
neighborhood.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
split
out
from
the
before
some
of
those
more
intense
uses
bars.
B
B
Microbrewery,
for
example,
that
wasn't
even
allowed
in
any
of
the
districts.
We
know
how
popular
that's
becoming,
and
so
we
dealt
with
that
in
the
end,
the
b5
is
are
not
in
a
b4
because
you
can
still
get
too
close
to
residential
your
before
as
well
and
there's
not
a
whole
bunch
that
we
shipped
it
over.
But
I
know
that
we
did
shift
over
the.
B
Farms
we
took
them
up
completely.
We
don't
think
those
belong
in
any
commercial
district.
They
should
be
in
that
AG,
hate,
grain
and
or
seed
sale
scores
would
put
them
in
the
b5
bulk
grain
and
feed
storage
to
come
out
of
the
before
put
them
in
the
b5,
a
veterinary
that
has
outdoor
containment
of
the
animals.
We
took
that
out
of
the
b4,
put
them
into
the
b5.
G
B
And
just
some
clean
up
or
to
zoos,
horse
racing
facilities,
Curry's
track
operations
b5,
because
this
is
high-wing
commercial
and
that's
usually,
where
you're
going
to
find
those
kinds
of
operations
and
again
I.
Believe
we
put
the
bars
in
the
b5
and
I
think
we
put
the
amusement
Redemption
machines
in
the
b5.
B
And
so
I
mean
it's
not
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff,
but
those
are
the
ones
that
we're
always
having
problems
with
when
we
get
it
before
we
start
thinking.
Well,
we
give
this
guy
before
then.
These
things
can
happen
there
and
work.
You
know
what
do
is
see
you
pee
instead
to
limit
it
and
so
forth.
This
way,
they're
already
in
the
b5,
they
can
ask
for
the
b5
zone
and
we
know
exactly
what's
going
to
go
on
there
with
these
these
higher
intense
uses,
but.
C
B
E
We
had
a
before
discover
all
the
the
angles
vina
on
a
b5
it
would
have
to.
We
would
probably
have
to
bring
all
the
before
that
are
existing
totally
fine,
converting
it
to
a
b5
okay.
What
are
you
gonna
do
with
them?
You
might
say:
well,
we
might
get
a
force
C,
but
what
its
existing
I
don't
then
have
we
that
are
protected
by
the
v4
right
now.
I
think
it
would
just
be
appropriate
to
bring
them
to
a
b5
if
it
would
ever
happen
that
I
personally
think
that.
B
The
way
that
works
whenever
that
does
happen,
and
you
can
create
a
new
zoning
district,
basically
the
businesses
that
should
be
in
the
beef,
our
in
the
new
b5
that
are
in
the
B
for
will
continue
to
operate.
They
become
non-conforming
uses
there.
They
enjoy
true
grandfathering
and
nothing
happens
to
them
unless
it's
unless
they
clothed
for
more
than
six
months
six
months
or
more,
in
which
case
they
have
an
option.
You
know
they
can
either
move
their
business
to
a
b5,
or
they
can
ask
that
that
particular
tract
be
converted
to
a
b5.
B
We
do
with
our
other
zone
cases,
so
we're
creating
that
level
so
that
we
have
that
separation,
and
we
have
that
flexibility.
If
you
will
to
be
able
to
say
you
know
what
this
area
I
don't
think
this,
but
you
know
too
close
to
residential
and
these
particular
things
that
are
now
B
fives,
which
were
in
the
before
you
don't
want
to
give
them
the
B
forth,
because
you're
afraid
that's
good.
You
know
there
will
be
placed
there
or
site
in
there.
You
that's
not
to
be
five.
B
Does
it
gives
you
that
ability
to
to
to
say?
Well
it's
it's
not
a
b5
you
so
that
they're
looking
for
some
before
so
it
becomes
more
sort
of
balanced
and
we've
looked
at
El
Paso
we've
looked
at
San
Antonio
we've
looked
at
all
so
that
those
cities
have
a
lot
of
different
zoning.
Carry
you
know
categories.
We
have
thirty
you
and
we
need
this
extra,
more
intense
use
to
put
those
other
businesses
over
there.
So
we
can
be
really
careful
with
how
they're
located
that's
what
our
thinking
it.
E
Is
real,
quick,
mister,
otherwise
I
think
mr.
Sherman
that
we're
looking
at
an
ordinance
that
that
the
community
needs
to
get
ball
in
and
I
think
we
at
least
I
think
we
should
have
some
public
hearings
for
you
now
some
of
the
members
of
the
community
are
coming
and
expose
their
concerns,
because
I
actually
read
the
ordinance
to
me,
doesn't
make
any
sense.
I
think
that
having
that
before
will
be
appropriate
of
what
we
have.
E
F
B
B
I
B
Intended
for
the
zoning
classification
to
exist
primarily
along
principal
arterial
streets
of
the
freeway,
into
imposts
Ike
development
regulations
to
ensure
adequate
access
to
all
users
within
these
classifications.
So
to
answer
your
question,
the
guide
is,
and
what
we
would
go
by
is
the
fact
that
they
need
to
be
along
the
major
arterials,
which
are
your
big
big
streets
and
your
freeways.
Okay,
so
not
on
your
local
collectors
and
stuff
like
that.
A
No
but
you're
sure
we
could
do
that.
I
mean
to
be
able
to
make
more
sense
because
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
before
is
everybody
knows
it
right
now
was
highway
and
everybody's
thinking,
major
arterials
and
everything
now
we're
saying:
okay.
Well
now
we're
gonna
put
major
arterials
we're
going
to
put
another
zone
on
it,
but
it's
like
any
major
arterial
that
we
have
of
b1
b2
b3.
F
F
C
B
A
B
A
Yet
we
left
a
lot
of
properties
that
you
know
or
B,
threes
and
now
they're
use.
It's
got
to
be
a
before,
because
the
highest
intent
use
53
before
the
before
now
we're
doing
the
same
thing
again
we're
saying
whatever
was
in
the
before
now.
That
is
supposed
to
be
in
the
B
5.
You
know
if
it's
removing
the
before
you
b5
to
me,
if
you
already
have
an
existing
user,
it
was
a
before
that
is
going
to
now
be
an
eligible
user
would
be
five.
A
That
property
should
be
zombie
five
right
away
as
we
change
the
ordinance
any
twitter
team.
That
yeah
I
mean
I.
Think
because
I
remember
that
the
problems
we've
had
in
the
past
well,
I
was,
and
we
had
people
come
in
and
say
you
know
what
I
had
the
highest
use,
which
is
b3.
Now
you've
changed
them
before
now.
My
compliance
well
technically
I
was,
you
know,
complained
before
mmm-hmm,
something
to
think
about
it
and
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Romania's.
Obviously
this
presentation
to
us
on
this
was
good.