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B
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C
A
Thank
you.
We
have
Commissioner
Campion
ahead
of
a
call
from
Commissioner
Joel
yeah
realities
in
San,
Antonio
in
business
and
I
understand.
Mr.
Danny
Lopez
is
also
tied
up
in
business.
He
may
join
us
later.
I,
don't
know
about
Commissioner
days,
but
for
the
record,
I
would
like
to
excuse
the
commissioners
that
did
call
in
some
emotionally.
We
have
a
second
in
a
second
all.
Those
in
favor
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you
next
add
a
new
we
have.
Everybody
can
please
stand
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
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A
A
E
Sir,
yes
good
evening,
commission
members
in
termina,
my
name
is
Roland
Asano
with
a
city
Laredo
I
am
the
I
guess
liaison
for
the
Technical
Review
Board
and,
among
other
things,
the
Technical
Review
Board
has
reviewed
my
against
City
Council,
directed
to
look
at
the
Gason
ordnance
and,
as
you
guys
well
know
about
the
street
ordinance
that
was
passed.
The
new
pavement
ordinance.
So
in
part
of
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
on
how
irrigation
could
have
affected
streets.
Therefore,
the
Technical
Review
Board
looked
at
the
irrigation
ordinance.
E
E
Basically,
what
they
were
worked
asked
to
do
was
to
look
at
as
it
or
not
the
overall
irrigation
ordinance,
but
just
how
it
affected
the
streets,
the
designs
and
dessert
extra
water
being
dumped
onto
the
streets,
and
is
that
really
causing?
You
know
an
issue?
So
with
that
task
on
hand,
they
kind
of
came
up
with
and
I'll
just
kind
of
give
you
a
preview.
D
E
E
Heads
can
be
put
on
the
right
away,
so
so
what
this
committee
said
to
put,
they
can
still
have
landscaping
on
the
right
away,
but
with
drip
irrigation
lines,
not
no
heads,
because
a
lot
of
times
what
they
were
saying
here,
Gators
were
saying
was:
either
a
car
ran
over
it
or
somebody
hit
it
and
they
weren't
sure,
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
had
a
big
leak.
Things
like
that
and
the
we
also
went
over
the
grass
and
how
certain
grasses
need
more
water,
like
one
of
the
fan.
E
E
Also,
the
first
five
feet
inside
the
property
to
move
back
the
irrigation
head
so
that
when
it's
sprays
it
only
lands
to
the
property
line,
and
eventually
it
goes
down
so
a
little
and
in
the
adage
something
about
the
license.
Irrigate
errs
but
we'll
bring
that
up
back
to
you.
What
was
there
and
what
are
the
changes?
So
we
kind
of
put
the
whole
document
there
that
you
guys
have.
E
E
A
E
Inside
yeah
well
we're
making
if
you're
going
to
irrigate
in
your
property,
the
spray
heads
tend
to
blow
off
and
then
and
the
committee
looked
at
this
air
Gator
said
it's
just
the
way
you
design
it
there's
many
different
ways
to
design.
So,
yes,
they
they're
wanting
it
to
move
back
so
that
even
if
there's
win
or
whatever,
there's
not
that
much
runoff
into
the
public
right-of-way
curbing
better,
which
is
the
concern
that
staff
had
brought
up.
When
I
mean
staff,
I
mean
engineering
and
and
public
works
director.
Mr.
E
John
Ophelia
had
brought
that
up
as
well
in
the
Technical
Review
Board
committee.
In
reference
with
the
street
pavement
ordinance,
you
know
to
keep
that
into
account.
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember
the
valley,
gutters
or
whatever
they
are
french
drains.
They
were
asking
for
because
of
the
irrigation.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
against
a
reactionary,
changing
the
ordinance
for
what
they're
proposing
anyway,
that's
their
proposal
there,
and
so
they
want
to
bring
it
up
to
to
this
commission
and
to
look
at
it.
D
E
Well,
we
are
going
to
meet.
We
meet
every
first
Wednesday
of
the
of
the
month,
so
yesterday
was
the
first
well
actually
today's
the
first
but
yeah
next
Wednesday
would
be
the
first
Wednesday
of
the
month
and
we
will
meet
and
based
on
your
you
know,
comments.
Obviously
you
can't
make
a
decision
today,
but
is
this
just
being
brought
up
it'll
be
brought
again
on
December
6th
and
then
again
is
there
just
one
reading?
Okay,
then,
after
that
you
guys
came
at
that
point,
then
we
will
submit
to
Council.
E
D
I
feel
that
that
the
changes
are
good
I
think
it
protects
not
only
the
street,
but
also
some
of
the
items
that
whether
is
private
or
public
property,
but
I
receive
a
couple
of
calls
from
from
some
of
the
readers
in
and
I
would
like
to
see
the
possibility
of
you
contacting
them
and
probably
make
sure
that
everybody
understand
the
change
from
the
ordinance
and
when
you
get
them
together.
If,
if
it's
an
order,
mr.
Chairman
I
would
like
to
be
invited
or
any
of
the
members
for
the
committee.
D
And
what
I,
what
we
want
to
do?
We
want
to
be
able
to
understand,
so
we
can
communicate
with
the
community
and
just
to
make
sure
that
that
that
the
members,
the
irrigator,
the
industry,
that
they
know
exactly
where
they
coin
in
to
and
and
that
we're
not
creating
a
hardship
either
for
them
or
for
the
community
anytime,
that
we
bring
an
ordinance.
It
creates
a
cost
for
the
for
the
industry
and
then
that's
passed
on
to
the
community
and
it.
So
there
is
a
hardship
for
them.
So.
D
E
G
Some
page
anyway,
let
me
tis
the
question
I
have,
for
you
is
obviously
this
page
has
a
strikethrough.
So
when
I
read
this,
this
tells
me
that
everything
that's
on
here
is
the
same
as
the
prior
ordinance,
and
then
the
strikethrough
is
only
the
change
or
is
this
not
have
all
the
strike,
throughs
and
additions
that
were
made
to
the
prior
ordinance.
E
So
this
document
is
supposed
to
represent
any
strike
through.
This
is
what
their
we
looked
at
and
saying
we're
they're
recommending.
Now
this
is
not
the
plan.
Zoning
Commission,
the
Technical
Review
Board,
is
recommending
that
these
changes
be
made
to
this
document
or
to
this
ordinance
right.
This
is
under
the
plumbing
code.
Chapter
25
of
the
plumbing
code,
which
is
most
of
the
irrigation
Falls,
there's
also
a
little
section
in
the
water
conservation.
That
is,
that
is
basically
water.
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A
A
F
E
H
H
D
E
G
E
G
E
A
A
I
E
Did
talk
about
the
how
the
Santos
teen
grass
is
popular,
mainly
because
of
the
price
per
square
yard,
but
that
really
requires,
and
as
we
learn
more
about
it,
Sanna
think
grass
needs
water
on
the
surface,
and
so
the
the
roots
themselves
are
very
small
and
I
know
if
you
guys
know
how
the
how
it
grows,
whereas
the
other
grass
is
the
Bermudez
and
snows
and
that
they
have
a
longer
route
and
there
the
water
can
be
in
the
soil,
and
the
grass
will
be
green
so
anyway.
So
that's
another
reason.
We
talked
about
that.
E
E
Well,
that
was
a
directive
that
was
brought
up
by
again
when
the
street
ordinance
was
done
and
because
of
engineering
department
and
Public
Works
Department
brought
up
that
issue
on
the
street
ordinance.
That
was
more
of
a
directive
that
to
look
at
it
if,
if
it
cost-
and
so
that
was
a
decision
of
the
technical
remover,
so
not
saying
that
was
the
objective
is
to
do
that.
But
to
look
at
that,
that
was,
that
was
what
they
were
tasked
to
do.
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A
C
A
Thank
you,
okay,
with
no
further
ado
on
this
particular
item.
We
move
into
the
next
one,
which
is
the
dimensional
standards.
It
says
discussion
regarding
the
City
of
Laredo
development
code,
chapter
24,
article
four
and
five
for
the
proposed
of
revisiting
the
dimensional
standards,
setback
requirements
and
any
other
matters
incidental
thereto.
Okay,
let's
talk
about
this
item.
E
Well,
basically,
this
is
again.
This
is
in
technical
review
board.
Looked
at
at
this
dimensional
standards
by
as
directed
by
City
Council,
and
so
the
three
proposed
changes
to
increase
the
building
area
and
I
guess
decrease
the
setbacks
in
the
rear
to
five
feet.
But
whenever
there's
easements,
obviously
the
Eastman's
would
dictate
you
know
you
can't
build
over
Nesmith
and
for
existing
or
new
subdivisions
so
being
able
to
build
all
the
way
up
to
the
five
feet
from
the
back
of
the
property.
E
I
E
E
Talk
about
the
corporate
yeah,
okay,
so
basically
allowing
them
to
build
well
they're
building
up.
They
have
a
in
a
lot
of
cases
for
a
lot
they're
looking
at
new
and
existing
of
the
front
lines,
so
the
first
ten
feet
of
the
property
on
the
new
front
line.
Utility
subdivisions
is
the
first
ten
feet
is
for
utilities,
so
obviously
they
couldn't
build
on
that
they're,
not
we're
not
diminishing
any
parking
requirements.
E
A
So
then,
you're,
basically
talking
about,
if
you
your
currently
built
in
a
subdivision
right
now-
and
you
had
a
twenty
foot
front
setback
you're,
saying
that
the
proposal
is
that
any
addition
can
go
up
to
ten
feet.
They're
ten
foot
line
they're
allowed
to
build
ten
feet
into
the
twenty
foot
setback.
L
Commission
I'm
Juan
Salinas
with
the
Technical
Review
Board
I,
think
the
on
the
front
setback
for
existing
subdivisions
I
think
we
we
kind
of
concluded
that
it
would
make
any
sense
for
folks
to
be
adding
to
the
front
I
think
the
rear.
The
proposal
was
at
the
rear,
except
back,
gets
adjusted
within
the
within
the
zones.
Whether
it's
existing
or
new,
subdivision
and
I
think
that
10-foot
front
setback
was
only
in
a
planned
subdivision
in
new
subdivisions
where
it
would
actually,
the
setback
would
actually
be.
A
L
That
was
the
or
five
or
six
foot,
depending
on
the
easements
in
the
rear,
and
that
was
what
we
kind
of
did
there
was
we
had
the
fire
department
there
we
had
the
staff
there,
AEP
was
there,
and
mostly
what
was
discussed
was
I.
Think
what
we
did
there
was
we
kind
of
took
him
to
the
maximum.
That
would
be
possible
so
whether
or
not
the
patio
and
Zoning
Commission
or
the
City
Council.
L
Ultimately,
whatever
you,
you
know,
decide
to
do,
I
think
that
was
we
kind
of
vetted
out
all
the
different
scenarios,
especially
in
new
subdivisions
where
a
EP
is
primarily
going
into
the
front
as
opposed
to
the
rear.
We
just
kind
of
vetted
it
out
of
what
the
maximum
possible
would
be
and
not
affect
anything
as
far
as
aesthetics
or
anything
else.
L
A
A
Did
anybody
actually
study
the
actual
effects
of
noise
on
those
shorter
setbacks?
No,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
because
I
mean
think
about
it.
You
have
barking
dogs
right
right
on
your
no
I
mean
those
are
kind
of
impacts
that
you
know
you
have
to
look
at
when
you're,
when
you're
building
a
community.
The
reason
for
setbacks
is,
give
you
a
little
bit
of
division
so
that
you
don't
have
high
density.
A
Really,
it's
really
what
what
it
is
I
mean
right
now,
when
you
review
setbacks
and
I,
don't
I'm,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
correct
setback
would
be,
but
certainly,
if
we're
going
from
20
to
5,
that
seems
like
an
extreme
okay,
but
I
think
we
need
to
consider
that
aspect
of
noise
pollution
in
between
the
units.
The
second
thing
that
I
would
take
into
consideration,
too,
is
that
everybody
here
likes
to
barbeque
sure.
L
D
We're
gonna
be
able
to
do
plaid,
Morlocks,
okay,
including
crumbs,
so
that's
good
for
the
for
the
industry
for
development,
but
for
the
the
residents
that
live
in
there,
the
residents
are
going
to
be
exposed
limited
to
the
to
the
backyard.
So
we
need
to
be
real
careful
with
that.
We
already
have
couple
of
problems.
One
of
them
is
parking,
we're
building
we're
playing
now,
they're,
so
small
that
any
any
resident
with
three
vehicles
they
have
to
park
on
the
street
and
it
creates
a
hazard.
D
L
Of
course,
and
and
I
think
it
was
I,
don't
think
it
was
premature
here,
but
I
think
it
was
we
kind
of
put
it
on
there.
Just
so
everybody
can
see
and
we
can
start
brainstorming.
So
when
we
come
back
on
the
six
and
what
we're
gonna
do
is
is
bring
a
I
guess,
a
craft
like
a
kind
of
like
a
site
plan
showing
setbacks
and
homes
and
everything
as
existing
and
then
as
proposed
mm-hmm.
H
L
H
Unites
for
the
record
pretty
much
that
one
of
the
council
members,
one
of
the
concerns
that
they
had
was.
It
was
a
from
from
from
the
building
aspect.
We
do
the
item
enforcement
and
so
a
lot
of
the
common
violations
that
we
see
is
people
building
by
dating
the
setbacks,
pretty
much
the
front
and
the
rear
pretty
much
for
the
disguise
discussions
kind
of
made,
and
so
it
was
kind
of
just
trying
to
create
something.
H
That's
a
that
allows
where
we
have
more
flexibility
for
the
customer
and
and
in
trying
to
shorten
also
that
that
aspect
of
violations,
but,
of
course,
having
with
all
the
you
know,
the
ideas
and
concepts
kind
of
put
together,
but
it
kind
of
started
with
with
violations
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
it's
just
trying
to
make
it
more
flexible
for
the
owner,
that
was,
it
was
common
little
days
he
was
actually
the
one
who
introduced
the
motion
to
to
bring
this
item
to
the
tier
VIII
and.
H
C
H
E
There's
also
we're
not
there's
deep
restrictions
like
in
certain
subdivisions
already
says
you
can
build
this.
This
is
not
superseding
that
there's
this
one,
that
there
is
no
established
what
to
do
on
on
a
lot
so
in
certain
low
density
subdivisions.
If
there's
already
lead
restrictions
on
what
you
can
do
that
excuse
me
that
still
dictates.
G
My
question
is:
what
is
the,
what
is
the
effect
of
property
values
going
to
be
where
you
have
neighborhoods
that
have
larger
setbacks
and
larger
yards?
And
then
now
you
have
like
mixed
in
areas
where
there's
going
to
be
this,
assuming
this
passes
with
these
smaller
yards
and
the
homes
right
up
on
the
street
like
that,
I
mean
it's.
Is
that
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
in
terms
of
a
quality
of
life
issue,
or
is
that
something
that
is
not
the
City
Council
or
the
cities?
E
E
G
G
I
G
I
G
I,
when
I,
when
I,
when
the
complement
people
were
here,
one
of
the
guys,
the
one
that
was
doing
the
housing
part.
You
know
we
drove
through
some
of
the
neighborhoods,
and
he
said
problem
with
this
neighborhood-
is
that
the
people
here
they're
not
going
to
really
be
able
to
resell
their
homes
because
of
certain
decisions
that
were
made
on
how
those
neighborhoods
were
laid
out
and
so
I
don't
know
if
he
was
right.
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He
may
have
been
wrong,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
that's
something
that
I
want
to
take
into
account
when
we're
considering
something
like
this.
You
know,
because
we
have
a
directive
right
from
the
City
Council
that
we
need
to
implement
the
complan.
So
that's
a
policy
direction
right,
we've
been
given,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
you
know
coincides
with
that
direction
and.
A
A
A
Just
about
to
say
and
okay
I'm
glad
that
that's
the
case,
what
there's
gonna
be
table,
oh
they
requested
cabling.
There
was
a
big
concern
to
me
as
to
why
this
is
even
going
forth,
because
one
of
the
comments
in
here
very
clearly
states
that
there
is
no
way
they
can
tie
into
sanitary
sewer
some
going.
Why
is
this
coming
to
us
at
this
point?
It
doesn't
make
any
sense.
A
So
it's
being
tabled
in
all
right,
okay
and
the
next
item
that
we
have
preliminary
consideration
of
the
replace
of
lots.
Five,
six,
eight
seven,
eight
block
one
amended
and
see
no
plans,
the
subdivision
unit
to
a
and
interlocks
fire.
A
six
million
seven
be
blocked.
One
and
scene
applies
the
subdivision
unit
to
a
the
antennas.
Commercial
purpose
of
this
replay
is
to
remove
a
gas
line
easement
and
the
no
build
zone.
A
C
Chairman,
we
would
like
to
amend
our
comment
instead
of
comment
number
one
under
planning
that
which
this
currently
says
must
submit
a
letter
notifying
planning,
but
the
will
has
been
plugged.
We
would
like
to
amend
that
to
to
say
especially
use
permit
for
plugging
and
abandoning
of
the
well
shall
be
required
and
or
sorry
or
copy
of
the
process,
especially
use
permit.
A
A
A
In
the
second,
all
in
favor
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
preliminary
consideration
of
the
replant
block
three
block
17,
like
lakeside
subdivision
phase
1
into
Lots
3a
through
3d
block
17,
a
alots
3
through
31
block
17,
real
exact
subdivision
phase
1
into
the
the
antennas
residential,
and
the
purpose
of
this
replant
is
to
create
12,
smaller
Lots
out
of
one
large
lot.
This
is
a
2.2
acre
tract
and
it
is
located
east
of
loop,
20
and
west
side
of
lakeside
subdivision
phase
1.
A
A
Motion
the
second
all
those
in
favor
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you
next
items
very
consideration
in
the
reply
to
the
key
lady
industrial
park,
phase
1
the
10
is
what
is
that
industrial?
Okay?
The
purpose
of
this
replant
is
to
create
three
smaller
Lots
at
a1.
Large
lot.
A
site
is
thirty
point:
four:
nine
acre
tracks
located
west
of
I-35
in
north
of
loop
20,
the
zoning
for
this
three-lap
development
is
m1.
The
proposed
action
is
approve,
subject
to
the
following
comments
from
Planning
from
water
utilities
and
a
notice
to
develop
it.
Yes,
sir,.
G
A
A
B
A
J
A
Questions
for
the
engineer:
if
not,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
Commission
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
subject
to
the
yeah?
Your
comments
motion
to
second,
all
those
in
favor
aye
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plan
of
Pinnacle
industrial
center
in
1472
unit.
Three,
it's
a
forty
nine
point.
Eight
eight
eight
four
acre
tracts
located
southwest
of
the
intersection
of
B
that
come
to
Road
and
West
Peak
Road.
The
proposed
action
is
approved,
subject
to
the
following
comments
from
Planning
from
engineering,
water
utilities,
traffic
and.
A
A
F
F
D
D
A
In
a
second,
all,
those
in
favor
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item,
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plan
of
the
pinnacle
industrial
center
unit
unit
four
and
the
site
is
68.4.
175
acres,
it's
located
southwest
to
the
intersection
of
that
come
to
and
west
Peak
Road.
The
proposed
action
is,
is
to
approve
wait
a
minute.
There
is
no
recommendation,
it
says
proposed
action.
Is
it
to
approve.
A
C
A
F
Just
a
copy
cut
and
paste,
we
had
these
units
submitted
as
one
plat
and
then
there
was
a
preference
by
the
Planning
Department
tab
them
as
two
because
they're
not
contiguous,
there's
a
question
about
whether
or
not
that's
allowable
or
not.
We
don't
really
care.
It
was
convenient
to
submit
him
as
one
plat,
but
we
separated
them
so
I'm.
Guessing
the
comment.
F
D
A
I
A
So
can
you
make
emotions,
we
need
to
him
all
together.
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
take
them
all
together.
I'll
take
a
motion,
the
second
all,
those
in
favor
aye,
okay,
and
we
have
motion
fraction
like
a
motion
to
approve
the
items
we
have
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
I'll
take
another
second,
all
those
in
favor
aye,
all
right,
I'm
gonna
skip
over
then
to
item
10a
and.
A
A
Motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
I
asked
for
item
9a
because
he
has
Commissioner.
Flores
has
a
conflict.
We
cannot
take
action
on
this
item
because
we
will
not
have
a
quorum.
Therefore,
you'll
have
to
repost
it
for
our
next
meeting
and
at
that
point
in
time,
we'll
be
able
to
take
action.
I'll
take
a.