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Port of Entry Advisory Committee Meeting 120722
A
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started,
I'm
going
to
sit
in
for
the
chairman
and
the
vice
chairman,
and
if
Arturo
Dominguez
comes
he's,
probably
dealing
with
traffic,
he
can
take
over.
So
we'll
call
this
meeting.
It
is
606..
This
is
the
Port
of
Entry
advisory
committee
and
it's
Wednesday
December
7th
at
city,
council
chambers.
A
The
first
thing
we'll
do
is:
do
a
roll
call
and
Gene
Lindgren.
That's
myself
are
in
prison,
Carlos
Fernandez,
don't
see
Carlos
Rafael
Miner
Jose
David
Gonzalez.
He
was
excused
out
of
town
Guillermo.
President
Luisa
president
Juan
Pascal
Russia
Arturo
Dominguez
Milo,
Richards,
David,
quick,
William
Young
in
zaloprida
president
Robert
Morris
Jr,
president
Gary
Jason.
B
A
D
A
All
those
in
favor
of
approval
of
the
minutes,
all
right
any
notes,
minute
approval,
passes
item
five
section.
One
next
item
on
the
agenda
items
for
discussion
is
the
presentation
by
Clean,
Air
Coalition
on
impacted
business
and
any
other
matters.
Incident
thereto.
E
E
F
F
A
Yeah
so,
in
the
meantime,
we're
waiting
on
some
of
the
presenters
and
in
in
folks
that
would
like
to
be
here
for
the
items
one
and
two
we
will
skip
to
item
three
discussion
and
update
regarding
the
insufficient
fund,
U-turn
survey
and
any
other
matters
incident
there
too.
G
Evening,
members
of
the
committee
on
Macros
Marketing
Manager
for
bridge
system.
Let
me
put
the
presentation,
as
you
know,
in
September
we
discussed
doing
a
survey
turns
on
Commercial
Crossings
at
Bridge.
Four
three
and
four.
G
This
is
item
five,
four
right
during
the
survey
that
the
timeline
was
from
October
11
to
November
30th.
We
had
a
total
of
549
surveys.
You
can
see
that
it
was
235
during
the
month
of
October
314
during
the
month
of
November.
They
might
not
match
with
the
amount
that
we
have
reported
for
the
month
of
October,
because
of
course
we
started
a
little
bit
late
in
a
month
and
we
had
some
instances
where
the
driver
did
not
cooperate
to
fill
out
the
survey
out
of
the
survey.
G
We
were
able
to
dissect
that
90.96.86
is
Spanish
speaking
78
of
those
are
drivers,
17
are
employees,
three
percent
are
owners
and
two
percent
decided
not
to
disclose
the
relationship
to
the
account.
The
recommendation
is
to
send
a
communication
out
in
Spanish
because
of
the
land
correct
now
out
of
the
questions,
our
questions.
Where
were
you
aware
that
they
accounted
and
have
funds?
95
of
them
responded
that
they
were
not
aware.
G
53
responded.
They
were
not
aware
that
they
could
add
money
online,
telephone
or
in
person.
63
mentioned
that,
knowing
that
there
was
an
out
of
repression,
replenish
option
and
out
of
that,
we
decided
or
I
decided
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
information
regarding
specifically
the
ones
that
replied,
but
they
were
owners
out
of
the
owners,
as
you
can
see,
is
very
similar.
The
majority
responded
that
they
were
not
aware.
G
It
was
only
19
out
of
the
total
amount
of
surveys
that
mentioned
that
they
weren't
owners
and
that
mostly,
were
not
aware
that
they
could
have
those
options
in
hand
because
of
the
low
contact
with
Avi
account
holders
and
Eblens
was
suggested
as
a
collaborate
collateral
effort
to
reach
the
correct
audience,
which
is
the
owners
of
the
ABI
Tech.
This
is
the
e-blast
that
was
sent.
G
You
can
see
it
here,
this
e-blast,
we
send
it
with
a
frequency
of
every
two
weeks.
The
first
one
that
we
sent
had
an
open
rate.
We
send
it
to
5194
subscribers
I'm.
Sorry,
the
open
rate
was
39.4
percent,
628
bounces,
four
ounces,
gripe
15
clicks
of
action,
and
then
you
have
the
desktop
and
mobile
open
rate.
Now
we
resend
it
yesterday,
two
weeks
you
can
see.
The
difference
is
four
less
subscribers.
The
Open
rate
continue
to
be
34
around
the
30,
something
percent.
G
We
had
less
bounces.
We
have
less
unsubscribes
and
more
clicks
to
action.
It's
the
the
the
users
are
responding
to
the
server
to
the
Eblens.
Now,
according
to
Constant
Contact
trade
and
transportation
industry,
standard
open
rate
is
32
percent,
so
we're
doing
good,
we're
well
within
the
norm
and
a
national
numbers
or
standards
for
an
opener,
it's
21.
So
it's
really
good
information.
You
can
also
see
the
heat
map
that
the
users
are
actually
clicking
and
where
they
are
clicking.
G
We're
not
only
making
connections
with
them
regarding
adding
funds
to
their
account,
because
that
eblas
redirects
to
that
site,
but
we're
also
being
able
to
get
more
followers
for
our
social
media
and
in
that
way
continue
communication
direct
communication
with
them
now,
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
continue.
This
is
item
number
five.
G
All
right,
as
you
can
see
the
billboard
that
was
promised
it's
right
now
running
in
Bridge
one
at
the
outlet
shops.
You
can
see
the
video
and
picture
of
it.
It's
looping
every
40
seconds.
This
is
the
campaign
to
increase
ADI
users,
it's
also
running
at
Bridge
2..
G
G
G
The
flyer
we
are
printing,
20,
240,
000
copies.
It
will
be
double-sided,
English
and
Spanish,
both
yes
English
and
Spanish,
and
distributed
with
the
crossing
receipt
at
the
bridge
system
to
our
cash
payers.
Any
questions.
A
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
This
looks
like
great
work.
Are
we
continuing
the
surveys
into
December.
G
A
Yes,
I
guess
it's
just
in
my
opinion
that
that
provides
that
extra
educational
moment
when,
especially
when
a
lot
of
the
people
didn't
know
about
the
replenishment
option,
anybody
have
any
other
questions
or
comments.
B
Yes,
we
can
committee
members
good
evening
evelymon
for
the
record
as
a
recommendation
by
by
you
all
here,
also
requesting
additional
Avi,
Lanes
I,
don't
know
if
you've
noticed
it,
but
at
bridge2
we
have
set
up
Lane
five
as
dedicated
ABI
as
well.
So
we
have
two
lanes
dedicated
for
Avi
users
and
we
have
four
lanes
for
cash
paying
customers.
So
if
you
are
not
aware,
I
know
we're
running
marketing
campaigns,
especially
coming
into
our
heavy
traffic
times
with
Paisanos
coming
in
for
the
holiday
season.
B
Also
to
let
you
know
that
the
route
for
the
Avi
users
will
be
set
up
this
Friday
and
will
continue
in
place
through
the
27th
of
December.
So
you
have
the
special
Avi
route
for
our
local
commuters
and
two
exclusive
Lanes
and
we'll
be
there
for
your
our
customers,
convenience
and
not
to
get
caught
in
the
traffic
of
IH-35.
H
Good
evening
committee,
Kent
Richard
bridge
for
the
record
I
did
give
you
a
couple
of
handouts:
the
insufficient
funds
for
the
month
of
October.
As
you
can
see,
for
World
Trade
Bridge,
we
had
385
u-turns
that
went
up
a
little
more
than
our
normal
320
330
gives
a
breakdown
on
the
number
of
counts.
That
has
you
know.
One
account
had
14
u-turns
for
the
month.
H
I
have
talked
to
the
front
office
and
they
assured
me
that
they
are
making
phone
calls
to
these
companies
that
continues
to
have
these
u-turns,
so
they
can
add
more
money
to
their
account,
whatever
it
is
to
try
and
get
this
number
reduced.
So
it's
a
continuing
job
to
try
and
get
it
lower.
I
did
look
at
the
new
November
numbers.
We
don't
have
the
breakdown
yet
on
the
number
of
accounts,
but
we're
looking
about
330
u-turns
for
the
month
of
November.
So
we're
still
hanging
into
those.
A
Yeah
I
think
we're
hopeful
that
the
efforts,
the
social
media,
the
email
blast,
the
the
the
signage
and
then
the
fines
who
will
eventually
stick
and
we'll
see
those
numbers
come
down.
Yes,
because.
H
H
H
He
has
had
some
on
the
prior
months.
I,
don't
know
those
numbers
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
was
making
sure
that
they
are
making
phone
calls
to
them
this
all
these
people,
especially
the
ones
that
are
three
four
five.
Six.
You
know
the
the
ones
that
are
one-time
offenders,
they
are
still
reaching
out
to
them
and
letting
them
know
as
well
as
well
it's
when
they
come
in
to
pay.
You
know,
then,
like
let's
put
some
more
money
on
your
account.
We
don't
want
to
have
all
these
returns
going
on.
H
J
H
I
K
H
D
A
Well,
the
good
good
discussion.
The
item
on
the
agenda
today
is
actually
to
have
this
discussion.
If
we
wanted
to
consider
making
some
changes
and
recommendations
to
pass
along
the
city,
council
we'd
have
to
have
an
item
on
the
agenda
with
possible
action
right.
This
is
just
a
discussion
item
at
this
point.
F
Do
we
want
to
take
up
a
decision
at
the
next
meeting,
I
mean
coming
into
2023.
You
talk
about
making
a
tiered
system
after
three
you
pay
50
after
10
pay,
a
hundred
right
I
mean
we
need
to
at
least
consider
it.
You
know
the
numbers
have
been
great,
but
we're
sticking
at
that.
300
I
think
the
intent
is
there
and
they
see
that.
But
obviously
it's
a
trade
Community
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
hamper
it,
but
at
the
same
time
that
congestion
on
Mines
Road
is
being
held.
How
serious
are
we
taking
it?
F
H
H
B
Will
continue
to
educate
our
customers
and
and
if
it
continues,
then
we
can
take
your
suggestions
to
City
management
and
and
proceed
with
your
recommendations.
Well,.
L
I'm
here
now
and
so
I
I
don't
mind
taking
having
a
missing
one
draft
of
revision
to
the
ordinance
and
introducing
it
to
the
council
in
the
first
meeting
of
January,
we
hear
your
recommendations
loud
and
clear
and
we
feel
I
feel
I.
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
it
it's
and
we
need
to
continue
to
educate
I
like
the
tiered
system.
L
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
we
can
certainly
bring
maybe
bring
you
the
drafts
for
your
meeting
so
that
we
and
then,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
help
us
navigate
through
that
draft
and
then
on
the
second
meeting
missing
one
we'll
introduce
it
to
the
council
for
their
consideration.
So
let's
have
a
draft
ready
to
show
you
to
see
how
you
all
feel
about
it.
You're
the
industry
that
will
directly
be
impacted
and
and
your
input
is,
is
good
to
have.
So.
L
A
K
I
can
see
where
the
drivers
might
say
they
don't
know
what
the
Eli
means
so,
but
if
they're
getting
the
owners
are
getting
an
email
or
a
text
or
something
that
they've
reached
a
threshold,
then
there's
really
not
much
excuse
for
them
to
not
take
care
of
that
and.
B
We
do
have
that
option,
but
it's
not
mandatory
that
everybody
have
a
credit
card
on
file
and
participate
in
the
auto
replenishment.
I
mean
everybody
manages
their
business
different.
How
we
have
customers
that
mail
us
checks.
We
have
customers
that
their
drivers
go
right
before
they
cross
and
deposit
their
toll
for
their
Crossing,
get
back
into
their
truck
and
cross.
So
they
manage
on
your
reaccount
holder,
manages
their
accounts
differently,
but
we
will
continue
to
encourage
the
auto
replenishment.
B
J
L
L
A
E
Alrighty
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
so
much
and
members
of
the
commission
and
staff.
My
name
is
Tricia
Cortes
I'm
with
the
Rio
Grande
International,
Studies
Center,
and
we're
part
of
the
cleaner,
Laredo
Coalition
I'm
here
with
council
member
Vanessa
Perez
and
Valentin
Reese
who's
also
active
with
us.
E
Okay
and
we're
here
to
update
y'all
on
sort
of
where
things
are
with
the
issue
regarding
ethylene
oxide
emissions,
which
is
centered
in
the
Kilim
industrial
park
off
of
Mines
Road,
and
we
wanted
to
bring
y'all
up
to
speed
and
then
make
an
Ask
of
your
groups.
E
E
The
EPA
regulates
close
to
200
air
toxics
and
ethylene
oxide
is
in
the
top
two
or
three
in
terms
of
its
in
terms
of
how
danger
it
is
dangerous.
It
is
to
the
human
body.
So
six
years
ago,
in
the
science
on
ethylene
oxide
has
been
evolving
in
December
2016.
E
Knowing
this
didn't
scale
back
or
say,
let's
rethink
this:
they
instead
decided
to
increase
production
and
their
usage
earlier
this
year
in
early
August,
the
EPA
did
do
their
list
of
top
23
high
risk
of
sterilizer
facilities
in
the
United,
States
and
Laredo
is
on
that
list,
and
just
to
give
you
just
an
idea,
looking
at
self-reported
data
by
the
company
to
the
EPA
they
opened
in
2005,
and
we
need
to
update
this
with
21
numbers
that
look
similar
to
2020
numbers
and
again
this
is
all
self-reported,
but
this
company
has
released
you'll,
see
on
the
far
right
column.
E
Many
many
tens
of
thousands
of
pounds
of
this
carcinogen
into
the
air
every
year
and
you'll
see
in
2016.
That's
when
the
EPA
reclassified
ethylene
oxide,
but
production
really
increased
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
we
rank
in
the
United
States
among
a
hundred
other
sterilizer
plants,
the
graph
on
the
left.
This
is
all
EPA
data
self-reported
by
these
companies
in
2019.
We
rank
second
in
the
country
and
you'll
see
on
the
right
2020
we
ranked
sixth.
E
But
if
you
look
at
the
chart
on
the
left
in
Willowbrook
Illinois,
it's
an
affluent
Community
outside
of
Chicago
also
near
an
industrial
kind
of
area,
but
their
emissions
were
far
less
than
what
we
have
here
in
Laredo
and
they
they
did
close
it
down
and
there
were
a
lot
of
factors
that
went
into
that
from
their
community
and
their
state
so
to
provide
some
perspective.
So
how
toxic
is
that,
like?
What
do
these
numbers
mean
right,
like
these
thousands
of
pounds
and
these
rankings?
E
So
when
trying
to
describe
how
toxic
this
chemical
is
to
people?
The
reason
Laredo
is
in
those
top
20
threat,
top
23
facilities
in
the
United
States.
It's
because
we
are
at
a
cancer
risk
level
of
one
in
a
thousand,
and
what
that
means
is
that
we
are
being
exposed
to
about
11
parts
per
trillion.
This
is
so
minute,
and
yet
it's
so
dangerous.
So
how
do
you
get
perspective
on
just
what
is
one
part
per
trillion?
E
That's
the
equivalent
of
one
drop
of
water
in
20,
Olympic-sized
swimming
pools,
or
one
second
and
32.
000
years,
I
was
just
going
to
mention
that
other
communities
like
Illinois
they
are
really
restricting
their
sterilizers
to
emit
no
more
than
150
pounds
a
year
and
even
then
some
places
feel
that
that's
too
much.
So
we
have
work
to
do
obviously
and
that's
why
we're
working
on
this
so
hard.
E
So
the
short
term,
it's
ETO,
it's
colorless,
it's
odorless
for
the
most
part
and
the
short-term
exposure
is
known
to
cause
these
problems
to
these
sorts
of
organs
and
irritations.
E
The
long-term
exposure,
which
is
what
we're
worried
about
because
of
the
volume
of
emissions
since
2005,
is
that
it
really
elevates
the
risks
of
cancer
and
particularly
cancers
of
the
white
blood
cell,
as
well
as
breast
cancer,
but
Non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma,
myeloma
and
acute
lymphocyte
leukemia,
and
the
reason
why
ethylene
oxide
is
so
dangerous,
but
why
it's
also
so
effective
as
a
sterilizer
is
that
it
can
penetrate
through
almost
anything
and
it's
mutagenic,
meaning
it
goes
in
and
it
can
change
the
DNA
in
a
Cell.
That's
what
gives
its
its
very
high
cancer
causing
Powers.
E
If
you
will
so
because
of
council
member
Bettis
and
the
City
Health
Department,
they
had
to
work
really
hard
to
get
the
state
of
Texas
to
begin
doing
these
cancer
cluster
studies-
and
this
took
a
lot
of
work
to
say
the
least,
and
they
finally
came
in
and
they
did
their
first
study.
Looking
at
the
first
three
census
tracts
the
middle
one.
E
This
was
cancer
study,
one
that
map
and
that's
the
census
tract
where
Midwest
is
located
and
that
study
was
released
on
July
19th
and
they
found
Non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma
at
Double,
the
expected
rate,
and
they
call
it
statistically
significant,
meaning
that
it's
higher
than
the
rate
that's
expected
for
the
rest
of
the
state
of
Texas,
and
because
this
came
out
at
that
level,
they
decided
to
do
the
next
three
census.
Checks:
I,
don't
have
the
map
of
it.
E
E
So
the
work
that
we've
done,
because
those
that
are
impact
I
I
forgot
to
put
in
the
map
so
that
from
the
EPA,
so
that
you
could
see
how
wide
far-reaching
this
chemical
is
in
Laredo.
It's
not
just
confined
to
The
Mines
Road
or
Kilim
Industrial
Park,
although
that's
the
area,
that's
most
directly
impacted,
but
it
covers
a
very
large
part
of
the
city.
E
But
in
that
sort
of
like
specific
area,
it's
businesses
like
yours
that
are
very
much
impacted
with
the
trade
Community
because
of
your
proximity
to
this
plant
and
all
of
your
workers
are
exposed
at
a
very
high
level
day
after
day.
So
we
try
to
do
some
Outreach
and
let
have
people
become
aware.
E
So
we
visited
130
businesses
in
the
KIPP,
the
Kilim
industrial
park,
because
it's
not
that
just
that
you're
being
directly
impacted
but
Midwest
what
they
are
saying
in
a
lot
of
their
presentations
without
any
sort
of
source
to
it
is
that
the
trade
industry
is
responsible
for
ethylene
oxide
emissions
and
there's
nothing.
That
proves
that,
and
they
don't
cite
that.
E
But
you
need
to
be
aware
of
this
and
we're
grateful
to
Mr
perida
in
October
we
had
a
very
high
level
visit
by
the
region,
6
administrator,
as
well
as
the
Director
of
environmental
justice
and
civil
rights
from
Washington
D.C,
Matthew,
Tejada
and
council
member
Bettis.
E
Just
to
begin
this
conversation
and
answer
questions
that
somebody
like
Mr
prida
can
understand
because
of
the
membership
of
his
group,
and
so
this
was
a
meeting
that
we
held
back
in
October
so
in
terms
of
next
steps.
So
because
the
TCEQ
and
Midwest
have
refused
to
do
any
sort
of
fence
line,
air
monitoring
to
get
actual
data
and
not
have
it
be
self-reported
or
be
based
off
an
equation.
E
We've
really
worked:
the
cleaner
Laredo
Coalition
with
our
local
governmental
entities
to
get
their
support.
They've
all
joined
the
Coalition
through
formal
action
and
we've
gotten
the
financial
commitment
so
far
from
Webb
County,
Laredo,
ISD
and
unit
United
ISD
and
the
city
at
a
past
city
council
meeting
has
committed
also
to
to
help
fund
this
initial
fence
line
monitoring
plan
and
the
idea
is
to
use
100
percent
of
every
single
Dollar
in
that
pot.
E
To
hire
an
experienced
third
party
contractor
to
do
the
fence
line,
air
monitoring
and
we're
developing
this
plan
with
the
EPA
so
that
it
has
the
quality
control
the
QA
QC,
so
that
it's
legitimate
and
valid,
and
we
can
share
all
of
that
data
with
everybody
and,
lastly,
we're
here
because
we
would
like
to
meet.
We
know
that
you,
each
of
you,
represents
a
lot
of
people
with
your
organizations
in
your
organization,
a
large
membership.
E
We
believe
it's
vital
that
your
members
are
aware
of
this,
so
that
we
can
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
your
workers,
our
kids,
our
families
and
take
the
appropriate
steps
together
with
y'all
as
well.
So
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
visit
whenever
you
have
your
meetings
through
your
organizations
for
us
to
do
a
presentation
and
answer
whatever
questions
you
might
have
and
our
key
people
are
Sheila
and
lauro.
That's
she.
A
E
L
Okay
and
I
can
give
you
an
update
on
the
city's
part
and
LISD
as
well,
because
I've
talked
to
Mr
Oscar
Perez,
so
one
of
the
assistant
superintendents
for
LISD
as
well
and
they've
committed
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
towards
this
effort.
The
city
right
off,
I
I
discussed
with
Dr
Chamberlain
today,
because
obviously
she
already
reported
to
you
that
we
did
not
get
a
grant
that
we
applied
for
to
help
fund
this.
L
And
so
during
our
budget
presentation,
Council
gave
us
Direction
to
be
a
partner
in
this
effort,
so
the
county
had
committed
to
30
000
lisds,
committed
to
thirty
thousand
uisd,
still
kind
of
out
there
we're
not
sure
where
UIC
is
going
to
be,
but
if
they
were
going
to
hop
on
to
the
30
000.
You
know
number
that's
been
kind
of
floated,
we're
hoping
that
they
do
but
I've
already
directed
Dr
Chamberlain
to
work
with
legal
to
draft
an
mou
directly
with
you
all.
L
So
you
can
initiate
the
first
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
that's
going
to
happen
pretty
quickly.
We
hope
to
take
an
item
to
the
council.
The
first
meeting
in
January
and
and
that'll
be
when
the
first
hundred
thousand
is
funded.
I'm,
encouraging
you
in
the
in
the
Coalition
to
get
an
mou
going
with
LISD
so
because
they're
ready
to
go
to
I
spoke
to
doctor
to
Oscar
Perez.
Yesterday,
okay,
so
they're
ready
to
go
with
their
30
and
I'm,
not
sure
I'm
sure
the
county
already
said
yes.
L
So
if
you
give
a
Nathan
Bratton
to
initiate
that
mou
on
that
side-
and
we
just
have
uisd
kind
of
out
there
and
so
I
just
told
council
member
Bettis
that
that's
a
direction
I
gave
earlier
to
to
Dr
Chamberlain.
So
his
office
is
already
working
with
legal
to
to
get
that
document
in
order,
and
we
have
time
to
put
it
in
for
January.
That's
the
latest.
Okay.
K
Regarding
the
chemical
itself,
it's
my
understanding,
the
Midwest
sterilizes
medical
devices
and
equipment,
and
so,
if
they're
sterilizing,
these
medical
devices
that
go
into
the
use
of
surgery
and
things
like
that,
why
has
FDA
not
could
condemned
this
chemical
is
used
as
a
sterilizer
if
it's
solvent
safe?
If
it's
such
a
tremendous
cancer-causing
agent,
why
hasn't
FDA
taken
up
this
end?
You
can't
use
this
to
sterilize
equipment,
that's
going
into
surgery.
So
then,
why
haven't
all
those
surgical
spaces
come
up
with
cancer
to
boots?
E
Yes,
it's
a
very,
very
good
question
and
we
have
the
same
question
too,
and
things
move
very
slowly
with
the
federal
government
and
the
EPA
is
expected
in
quarter
one
to
issue
a
new
rule
regarding
commercial
sterilizers
and
ethylene
oxide,
and
it's
taken
them
eight
years
and
there's
been
so
many
delays.
But
that's
expected
to
happen
in
quarter
one
on
the
FDA
side.
E
You
know
it
take.
They
put
a
call
out
to
Industry
to
ask
them
to
come
up
with
alternatives
to
epileenoxide
as
a
sterilizer,
the
iso
International
standards
organization
they
just
announced
last
week
and
they
approved
hydrogen
peroxide
as
a
as
a
as
a
valid
and
legitimate
alternative
as
a
commercial
sterilizer,
and
not
to
say
that
that's
going
to
solve
all
the
problems
and
it
can
100
replace
ethylene
oxide.
E
So
it
just
takes
a
long
time
with
the
federal
agencies.
It
takes
a
really
long
time
and
I
also
think
what's
happened.
Is
the
industry
they've
gone
on
a
full
out
PR
campaign
to
sort
of
blast
the
EPA
science
and
minimize
the
risks,
and
so
they
do
that
not
just
their
individual
companies
but
like
their
industry,
trade
group
has
been
doing
that
as
well,
so
I
think
it'll
happen
and
it
just
is
taking
it's
happening
very
slowly.
K
I,
just
love
I'm,
just
think
my
logic
in
is
faulty
sometimes,
but
I.
Just
think
that
if
they're
using
it
to
sterilize
medical
equipments
and
it's
that
dangerous,
it's
concentrated
on
those
pieces.
What
you're
talking
about
with
us
is
parts
per
trig
and
that
are
dangerous
to
us
and
it's
one
in
ten
thousand
people
are
can
possibly
get
cancer.
It
just
seems
if
it's
that
dangerous,
you
would
see
so
much
more
cancer
cases
for
it
so
much
more
concentrated
in
the
use,
and
then
you
get
the
people
that
work
for
the
facilities.
E
I,
don't
know,
oh,
we
don't
know
yet
I
know
the
health
department
is
starting
a
voluntary
hey.
What's
it
called
they're
doing
a
voluntary
Community
sort
of
Health
assessment
to
try
to
get
more
information
about
this.
But
you
know
it's
a
very
good
question:
Mr
Morris
and
we
have
the
same
one
as
you
do
and
we
just
wish
things
would
move
a
lot
faster
than
they're
moving
right
now
they.
M
E
Well,
the
the
the
the
the
lifespan
of
the
chemical,
it's
short,
but
it
still
like
dozens
and
dozens
of
days
and,
if
you're
putting
it
into
the
air
at
such
high
volumes.
You
know
that
accumulates
it's
a
heavy,
even
though
it's
very
small,
it's
a
heavy
molecule
and
it
settles
it
doesn't
dissipate
easily
into
the
air.
So
it
stays
low
to
the
ground.
E
A
I
mean
if
you
know
if
I
could
interrupt
I've
seen
you
know.
Some
of
the
information
publicizing
part
of
part
of
the
answer.
I
think
Robert
is,
is
continual
exposure?
That's
dangerous,
it's
not,
for
you
know
an
hour
or
a
minute.
It's
decades.
Okay,.
L
Yes
and
one
more
point
that
I
made
council
member,
oh
Council,
gave
us
Direction
just
for
it
to
be
transparent,
to
work
with
the
EPA
and
with
the
other
agencies
to
make
sure
that
the
plan
of
analysis
how
they
were
going
to
analyze
and
Sample
was
Within
provable
parameters.
L
If
what
we're
doing
really
measuring
because
of
the
small
trillion
that
we're
talking
about
here,
is
it
even
going
to
be
measurable
with
what's
out
there
to
measure,
and
so
that's
been
something
that
needs
to
be
worked
out
completely
before
I
mean
we'll
be
ready
with
the
agenda
items?
So
it's
going
to
come
down
to
that.
A
N
I
just
want
to
make
two
comments
like
well
a
few
comments,
but
number
one
so
going
back
to
your
this
is
this
is
not
the
only
chemical
that
you
can
use
to
sterilize
the
actual
medical
equipment
that
the
doctors
use
to
perform
their
surgeries
and
everything,
because
a
lot
of
those
are
stainless
steel
right.
The
problem
here
is
that
this
is
kind
of
like
the
business
model
that
they
have,
that
they
package
these.
N
These
things
up
with
their
partner
companies
and
they
sterilize
everything
all
together
in
one
blast,
so
they're
sterilizing,
paper
and
and
other
things
that
are
not
necessarily
the
medical
equipment
and
and
and
they're
per
se.
But
you
know,
and
then
they're
in
their
argument
is
well.
You
know
it's
it's
easier
to
have
it
all
sterilized
in
one
blast
and
things
like
that,
but
as
far
as
like
people,
you
know
going
into
surgery
and
and
and
and
using
equipment-
that's
not
sterilized
I
mean
that's
not
what
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about.
N
Of
course,
we
want
sterilized
medical
equipment,
but
the
question
is:
is
this
the
right
way
to
go
when
there's
it's
a
known
carcinogen?
It's
kind
of
what
happened
with
Roundup:
you
know
they
were
using
it
for
years
and
then
they
knew
that
it
caused
cancer
and
then
they
stopped
using
it.
You
know,
and
going
back
to
Trisha's
reference
to
the
stop
stereogenics
in
Illinois
I.
Don't
know
if
you
all
followed
the
news,
but
about
two
weeks
ago
there's
been
a
lot
of
lawsuits
against
that
company.
N
And
then
by
then
it's
too
late,
and
so
all
these
plus
cancer
cluster
studies
that
we
asked
for
the
data
at
first
we
were
told
yes
and
then
we
were
told
no
and
then
we
had
to
get.
N
You
know
state
representatives
involved
to
push
for
them
to
actually
release
the
data
and
if
you
look
across
all
the
cancers,
even
though
some
of
the
cancers
are
statistically
significantly
higher,
the
incident
rates
for
all
the
cancers
are
still
higher
than
what
the
state
expects
for
us
to
have,
and
so
that's
alarming,
and
we
can't
ignore
that
you
know
as
a
community.
We
can't
ignore
that
if
there's
something
happening,
we
need
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
for
this
evening
of
our
people.
So.
G
D
E
Usage
rate
is
excessive.
The
amount
that
they
use
for
the
is
is
significantly
higher
than
the
amount
of
ethanoxide
that
other
sterilizers
use,
so
they
just
like
overly
use
like
this
chemical
in
their
process.
Maybe
that's
something
that
could
be
looked
at
to
minimize
that
and
there's
all
you
know
we.
We
really
hope
we
can
find
a
solution
to
this.
That
makes
sense,
and
that
keeps
that
keeps
everybody
here
safe,
and
you
know
Laredo
so
medically
underserved
that
the
10
years
that
they
looked
at
for
these
two
cancer
cluster
studies.
E
K
It's
amazing
how
much
volume
that
they
produce
and
bring
over.
So
it's
just
that
sure
volume
might
suggest
why
they're
using
so
much
of
that
chemical.
But
again
it's
not
that
I'm
opposed
the
idea,
certainly
in
the
long
run,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
community
doesn't
have
a
cancer
or
a
case,
like
you
mentioned,
where,
40
years
later
they
take
action.
That's
not
that's!
Not
what
I'm
after
I'm
just
asking
the
questions
of,
if
it's
so
dangerous,
why
don't?
K
Even
the
doctors
and,
more
importantly,
FDA,
say
you
can't
use
this
because
they
won't
let
stuff
into
the
country.
If
it's
have
that
stuff,
you
help
me
if
it's
dangerous
I
mean
they're,
very
I
mean
we
import
stuff
that
FDA
overseas
and
they're,
so
strict
on
things
that
it's
it's
unbelievable
to
me,
that
they
wouldn't
have
a
say
in
this.
M
I
would
like
to
say
something:
our
government
has
done
illegal
studies
on
minority
communities.
Our
government
has
done
terrible
Acts
against
humankind,
people
here,
black
white,
it
doesn't
matter
it
happened
here.
Okay,
we
cannot
trust
our
government
okay,
we
have
to
enforce
or
find
a
way
for
them
to
enforce,
and
it's
up
to
us
because
the
Garment
is
not
taking
care
of
us.
F
As
you
know,
I'm
a
supporter
of
sustainability
and
and
obviously
Medline
used
to
sit
on
our
board
previously
so
being
open
about
that
and
I've
toured
their
facility,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
state
of
the
art
facility
and,
as
you
mentioned,
the
medical
kits
that
they
produce
are
for
hospitals
here
locally
and
and
in
the
region,
and
they
have
a
sister
planting
already
pregnant
so
preaching
at
the
choir,
and
in
that
conversation
the
whole
component
of
triple
bottom
line
comes
to
mind
right.
F
When
we
talk
about
sustainability,
we
want
to
push
it
forward
as
much
as
I
do
as
well.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
serving
the
businesses
and
the
communities
and
everybody
going
forward
and
so
I'm
supportive
of
you
know,
holding
them
accountable.
But
then
this
kind
of
for
me
puts
it
in
a
little
slippery
slope
right
we're
going
to
the
air
which
is
we're
not
in
a
non-attainment.
We
don't
have
anybody
around
for
150
miles.
F
So
that's
why
sometimes
it
can
be
a
little
bit
lofty
for
people
right,
but
it
is
a
it
is,
is
very
deadly
and
or
very
cancer-causing,
and
so
what?
What
leads
me
to
think
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
emissions
put
out
by
vehicles.
F
You
know
when
we
have
a
lot
of
cueing
a
lot
of
the
bridge
delays,
so
that
adds
to
the
whole
air
quality
component
and
it
might
not
I
feel
it's
just
singling
out
one
company,
understandably
they're
doing
something,
but
there's
a
lot
of
companies
and
then
there's
been
a
lot
that
we've
put
into
our
ground
that
goes
into
our
water,
as
you
are
aware
of
that,
and
so
I'm
totally
supportive
of
this
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
what
we're
going
towards
is
providing
Solutions
and
not
just
shutting
down
right.
F
Are
we
creating
a
mechanism
where
we're
adding
these
apus
or
you
know
the
accessories
that
AP
use
the
the
power
units
on
the
back
of
the
truck?
So
that
way,
if
they're
parked
somewhere,
they
don't
have
to
be
idling,
they
can
be
electric
trying
to
provide
more
options
on
the
the
transition,
as
opposed
to
just
just
the
stick
right,
the
carrot
and
the
stick,
and
so
supportive
I
definitely
think
that's
great
to
keep
the
fence
line
monitoring.
F
You
know
continually
the
homes
in
that
area
and
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
development
going
in
that
area,
and
so
it's
a
slippery
slope
but
I
definitely
agree
that
now
is
the
time
right.
There's
no
reason
to
wait
to
tell
the
community
that
this
is
happening.
I
think
this
is
important,
and
sometimes
these
things
hurt
talk
about
right,
but
we
need
to
we
I
completely
agree.
So
I
applaud
you
and
the
group
for
doing
that.
It's
a
tough.
E
And
thank
you
and
I
just
thought.
The
and
I
I
wish
I
would
have
added
it
and
I
didn't,
but
it's
the
EPA
cancer
level
risk
map
for
Laredo,
and
you
know
we're
at
the
highest
level
in
the
country
95
to
100
percent.
The
risk
is
higher
and
you,
if
you
live
in
this
area,
then
from
industrial
air
pollution
than
other
parts
of
the
country
and
then
there's
like
sections
that
are
90
to
95
and
then
85
to
90
and
that
map
it
when
it.
E
When
EPA
looked
at
all
the
sources
it
zeroed
in
on
this
one
stationary
plant,
that
it
is
being
that
this
cancer
level
very
elevated
cancer
level.
Risk
in
Laredo
is
coming
from
this
one
stationary
plants
this
one
facility,
and
so
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
that
those
emissions
really
really
come
down
and
that
there
is
transparency
and
that
there's
fence
line
air
monitoring
we're
having
to
pick
up
the
tab.
E
The
taxpayers
are
for
something
that
this
company
should
be
required
to
do
in,
in
the
spirit
of
transparency
and
being
a
good
corporate
citizen.
That's
providing
a
very
important
service,
but
that,
at
the
same
time,
is
endangering
the
health
of
so
many
people,
and
especially
kids
that
are
specific
that
are
especially
susceptible
and
vulnerable
to
this
mutagenic,
air,
toxic.
I
One
recommendation:
can
you
please
go
back
two
slides
or
just
another
one,
another
one
keys,
no,
the
one
that.
I
I
What
we
could
do
is
make
them
do
the
production
up
there
and
go
make
this
go
down
because,
as
as
you're
telling
here
is
the
pollution
really
really
concentrated?
Why
don't
they
just
go
and
put
up
their
production
down
there
and
do
less
production
here,
because
the
fence
line
would
be
not
it's
not
going
to
be
any
solution,
we're
just
going
to
measure
and
see
how
this
pollution
getting
worse
or
worse.
But
it's
it's
no
solution
to
the
problem.
E
Yes,
so
and
and
Jackson
it's
a
bit
less
their
volume,
but
they've
invested
hundreds
of
millions
of
more
dollars
into
that
plant
for
for
emissions,
control
and
they've,
said
they're
going
to
do
it
in
Laredo
and
that
they're
working
on
it,
but
they
won't
give
a
timeline
and
they've
definitely
said
they
will
not
do
air
monitoring
to
show
if
it's
controlling
those
emissions,
which
is
why
we
want
to
do
it
at
least
now,
as
Chief
Landin
said,
we
need
to
get
like
at
least
a
baseline
data
so
that
when
they
come
in
and
say,
okay,
we
put
in
pollution
controls,
we
can
come
in
and
see.
I
E
One
major
approved
method
for
doing
air
monitoring,
but
it
only
measures
in
parts
per
million
and
so
releases
that
are
smaller
than
that
and
the
parts
per
trillion
those
those
methods
it's
very
hard
to
capture.
So
we
want
to
do
the
EPA,
approved
method
and,
and
that's
going
to
happen,
you
know
they're
gonna
they're
reviewing
the
plan,
but
we
also
want
to
try
to
look
at
some
of
these
other
developing
technologies
that
can
also
start
to
measure
in
the
parts
per
trillion
range,
because
that's
what
we
need
to
that's
what
we
need
to
have
and.
A
So
two
things
that
we've
probably
got
to
move
on.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
but
you
mentioned
the
map,
and
maybe
you
wanted
to
include
that
in
the
presentation.
Maybe
you
can
send
that
to
Ms
Limon
and
she
can
distribute
it
to
to
to
the
committee.
D
A
Of
us
that
have
organizations
and
and
presentations
and
memberships
whatnot,
if
you
would
consider
having
having
a
presentation
and
some
awareness
given
to
the
community
through
through
our
organizations
as
well
I,
attended
the
Laredo
rotary
club
meeting
that
had
a
presentation
from
from
Miss,
Cortez
and
and
now
councilwoman,
seguroa
and,
and
they
also
had
invited
representatives
from
Midwest
sterilization
and
it
got
a
little
interesting,
but
it
was
respectful,
but
I
just
say
it
was.
It
was
interesting.
A
M
Absolutely
endless
question:
historically,
these
companies
that
move
into
cities
to
poison
them
they
move
to
minority
communities
that
plant
over
there
is
a
white
community,
so
of
course,
they're
going
to
do
things
differently,
but
that
is
not
right.
You
know,
so
they
won't
do
that.
Because
of
that
you
know,
it'd
be
so
it's
a
simple
solution.
I
love
that
sort
of,
but
they
won't
do
it
because
of
that.
So
that's
why
they
brought
it
to
Laredo
because
we're
95
minorities
right
like.
M
A
You
very
much
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
recognize
Arturo
Dominguez
who
joined
us.
Thank
you.
Sorry.
Sorry.
A
P
A
Fernandez
as
well,
thank
you
thank
you.
My
head
didn't
turn
that
far
to
the
left,
your
county
was
President.
We
do
have
another
presentation
to
go
through
in
this
in
the
spirit
of
time
and
for
those
that
that
know
me
I'd
like
to
start
on
time
and
end
on
time,
but
it
is
important
item
five
section:
two
discussion
with
possible
action
to
propose
a
pilot
program
to
decongest
FM,
1472,
Mines
Road
on
weekdays
during
peak
hours,
2
P.M
to
5
p.m
and
any
other
matters
incident
there
too.
O
O
The
the
traffic
light
on
Mines
Road,
especially
coming
from
Colombia
to
Laredo
I,
think
we
need
to
synchronize
them
better,
in
other
words,
during
peak
hours,
to
extend
the
green
light,
even
if
the
ones
coming
from
the
arteries
to
make
a
right
turn
and
then
you
do
u-turns
wherever
they
want
to,
but
I
think
we
have
to
work
with
that.
O
The
other
one
is
doing
a
traffic
Route
like
we
used
to
have
when
when
they
were
crossed
through
bridge
too,
it
was
just
35
straight.
No,
nobody
coming
in
through
any
streets,
it
was
just
going
straight
and,
and
you
had
to
do
a
life,
so
we're
looking
at
going
on
killum
towards
35,
that's
a
couple
of
miles
and
then
making
a
right
turn
on
the
access
road
of
35
and
then
getting
Loop
20
the
access
road
and
leading
into
to
the
bridge,
and
that
would
be
the
traffic
Route.
O
O
P
C
A
So
I
I
would
recommend
we
pass
this
to
the
Bridge
Department
in
Ms,
Limon
and
City
management
to
see
if
any
of
these
items,
one
at
a
time.
That's
how
you
that's
how
you
you
eat
an
elephant
right
in
and
see
which
of
these
items
could
be
passed
on
to
the
appropriate
departments,
whether
it's
the
police
department,
The,
Bridge,
Department,
TxDOT,.
O
A
I
Topic
there's
a
another
option
for
that
for
the
traffic
lights,
we
can
use
cameras
that
have
artificial
intelligence
to
sense
the
traffic
and
it
will
automatically
put
the
red
and
green
light.
It.
D
I
A
F
I
I
K
I
think
Arturo
mentioned
it
briefly
about
something
to
do
with
the
police
control
of
it,
directing
traffic,
real
intelligence
right,
real
intelligence.
The
real
intelligence
is
correct.
Now
the
idea
is
that
if
you
go
down
Mines
Road
right
now,
you're
going
to
see
police
cars
stopped
with
their
lights
flashing
at
almost
every
intersection
and
I'm,
not
sure
what
they're
doing
sometimes
they're
blocking
the
road.
K
So
they
can't
turn
right
in
a
certain
way
or
whatever,
but
or
they
can't
come
straight,
but
maybe
we
could
utilize
our
resources
better
by
putting
up
barricades
so
that
the
trucks
can't
go
by
there
instead
of
having
a
man,
police
officer,
sitting
there
for
hours
and
hours
and
hours
getting
paid
and
then
maybe
using
those
to
come
in
and
actually
direct
traffic
at
some
of
these
intersections
during
the
peak
hours,
that's
just
a
thought
that
I
have
that
we
would
you
have
the
resources
that
are
already
there,
let's
put
them
to
work
and
and
instead
of
just
sitting
there
because
I
think
we're
paying
them
to
be
there
right.
Q
For
the
Liberty
police
department
and
and
you're
right
officers
are
there
some
of
the
traffic
traffic
directing
strategies
is
the
use
of
the
police
car,
obviously
for
the
protection
of
the
officer
and
to
direct
the
traffic
from
certain
Lanes,
but
just
from
from
the
last
time
that
I
was
here,
we
did
discuss
about
the
the
program
that
we
were
going
to
do
combined
with
the
bridge.
Do
you
have
officers
specifically
during
this
heavy
time
periods?
Q
Q
So,
just
in
when
we
began
early
October
we've
had
we've
used
about
506
man,
hours
of
just
traffic
control.
So
that's
averaging
about
eight
police
officers.
During
the
day
during
the
peak
hours
from
two
to
about
midnight,
with
three
to
eight
o'clock
being
the
main
peak
times.
Sometimes
it's
relatively
flowy.
Sometimes
it
is,
it
is
heavy,
but
for
the
most
part
we
are
there
and
we
are
doing
the
best,
as
we
can
I
think,
which
are
probably
one
of
the
recommendations
about
having
a
consultant
or
a
professional
company
may
offer
some
solutions.
F
I
was
going
to
say:
is
we
we
partner
with
just
in
regards
to
the
studies
that
we
partner
with
TTI
Texas
Transportation
Institute?
That
does
I
call
them.
There
are
nerds
of
our
team
they're
a
different
entity,
but
they
do
all
our
heavy
lifting
they're
all
the
phds
and
all
they
run
the
models
and
the
simulations
just
most
recently.
What
we've
been
doing
is
we've
partnered
with
these
three
data
companies,
and
so
a
lot
of
this
goes
by
modeling
right
they
how
much
traffic
you
got.
F
That's
going
in
to
see.
Where
do
we
add
the
overpasses
if
they're
going
to
come
through
or
what
innovative
ways
that
we
do
to
the
intersections
one
of
the
ones
that
y'all
are
familiar
with
was
killum,
Road
left
turn
lane
and
then
the
right
turn
lane
to
go
north
caused
a
lot
of
disruptions.
It
changes
the
way
that
we're
going
to
be
implementing
projects
there
right.
We
don't
want
to
happen
during
the
daytime.
F
We
heard
we
heard
the
industry
loud
and
clear,
so
we'll
be
changing
that
I'm
not
saying
for
all
of
them,
but
they're
they're,
taking
into
account,
and
they
want
to
push
that
with
every
contractor,
keeping
in
mind
that
section,
Beyond,
Pan
American,
there's
not
really
a
lot,
but
we
have
right-of-way
to
widen
there,
and
so
we've
talked
about
potentially
adding
another
Lane
on
the
interior,
really
just
working
within
our
right-of-way.
We're
not
trying
to
acquire
any
more
but
from
69
to
Pan,
American,
there's
option
to
add
lanes
and
widen.
F
So
that's
where
we're
at
right
now,
ttis
has
a
few
more.
They
got
a
couple
more
weeks
on
the
other
studies
that
they're
doing,
but
that's
beyond
that
section.
O
The
city,
the
city,
is
that
these
the
traffic
lights,
because
I
saw
Mr
mulio
just
right
behind
his
desk.
He
could
see
all
the
cameras
when
they
call
him
that
it's
clogged
and
he
would
see
that
it
was
moving.
It
was.
It
was
just
a
false
call,
but
he
can
he.
He
actually
would
change
the
timing
of
any
street
light.
That's
what
he
told
me
when.
Q
He
was
back
there
to
my
knowledge.
You
may
be
right,
but
from
to
my
language,
I
think
it's
textile
yeah.
O
F
The
traffic
manages
the
signalization
in
the
timing.
K
K
Events
all
the
time
doing
that
in
in
the
big
cities,
I
thought
they
were
doing
that
here,
because
there
was
a
time
when
the
traffic
was
just
flowing
like
glory
and
then
and
I
saw
him
and
even
I
live
out
there
and
I
saw
one
that
was
there
in
the
intersection
that
I
come
out
of
and
the
officer
was
actively
engaged
in
the
traffic
making
sure
they
didn't
block
intersections
letting
those
through
when
it
was
nice.
But
then
that
happened
for,
like
maybe
three
or
four
days
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
K
O
Wrong
in
helping
change
it,
so
when
we
see
a
a
police
car
part,
you
kind
of
just
lower
the
speed
limit.
That's
that's
really
what
you
control
the
speed,
but
here
they're
they're
not
moving.
That's
that's
the
issue
here.
They
don't
move
just
my
little
roadway
when
the
system,
the
Mexican
system
is
out
just
that
Milo
road
coming
into
Mines
Road
I
mean
you
could
take
seven
lights
just
to
go
through
that
street
and
that's
really
what
frustrates
the
people
in
that
area.
It's
just
traveling
couple
of
blocks.
K
I
think
we
mentioned
last
time
having
a
special
route
for
non-commercial
traffic
during
these
heavy
times.
What
would
prohibit
us
from
having
just
a
special
Lane
during
the
peak
hours
that
you
know
in
some
of
the
major
cities
when
you
go
through
truck
drivers,
can't
drive
in
a
certain
Lane
on
the
inside
Lane
generally?
F
K
N
Had
a
town
hall
in
my
district
and
we
brought
everybody
together
and
text
not
explained
that
because
of
the
because
of
it
being
an
FM
Road,
there's
really
it's
not
feasible
to
do
that,
because
trucks
are
going
often
on
the
road
on
both
sides
throughout
the
whole
way.
So
they
do
that
more
for,
like
an
interstate
highway
or
a
different
classification
of
Road,
they
don't
really
do
that
for
an
for
an
FM
Road
and
that's
what
they
were
explained
to
us
and
Jason
would
know
more.
N
But
the
reason
why
I
think
this
item
had
the
times
here
is
because
these
are
the
times
when
people
the
children
are
are
coming
out
of
school.
This
is
the
times
when
there's
a
lot
of
school
buses,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
trying
to
get
in
and
out
of
their
home,
and
this
happens
to
be
the
peak
time
when
a
lot
of
the
trucks
for
the
industry
are
also
getting
ready
too.
So
you
have
all
this
like
Demand
on
the
roadway
all
at
the
same
time
and
I
think.
N
The
intention
with
this
item
is
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
live
together.
If
you
will,
because
you
know
you
guys-
are
trying
to
work
and
then
there's
people
out
here
that
are
trying
to
live,
and
you
know
we
could
say
well,
you
shouldn't
have
bought
in
an
industrial
area
all
day
and
this
we
could
go
back
and
forth,
but
we've
been
doing
that
for
years
and
it
hasn't
worked.
We've
been
asking
for
money
for
roads
and
we're
not
getting
the
money.
N
So
the
idea
was
to
try
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
clear
some
of
the
the
trucks
off
the
roadway
for
a
little
bit
of
the
day
when
people
are
trying
to
get
to
to
and
from
so
that
way
they
can.
You
know
like
go
home,
you
know
they
can
get
to
school.
The
kids
are
not
trapped
in
school
buses
for
long
periods
of
time
and
things
like
this
and
then
we
can
resume
the
the
trade
activity.
You
know
after
that.
N
So
I
think
that's
what
we
were
the
the
what
I'm
seeing
here
is
that
there's
a
need
for
some
working
together
and
I
did
speak
to
certain
people
in
the
industry
about
like
wool
and
one
suggestion
that
came
up
and
I.
Don't
think
management
is
going
to
want
to
hear
this
Mr
Lundy
cover
your
ears
was
possibly
you
know,
making
it
cheaper
to
go
through
Colombia
during
these
peak
times,
so
that
they
could
go
that
way,
because
what
I
understood
is
to
go
through
World
Trade
is
let's
say
25,
but
to
go
through.
N
And
so
these
are
kind
of
like
the
we're
going
to
end
up
paying
an
increase
police
or
we're
going
to
end
up
paying
in
you
know,
decreased
Revenue,
it's
gonna,
but
at
least
it
would
take
congestion
off
of
The
Mines
Road
during
these
peak
hours,
and
it
would
help
the
industry
utilize
Colombia
a
little
bit
better,
and
maybe
that
would
help
everybody.
So
I
think
that
we
could
maybe
talk
about
something
like
that.
N
As
far
as
like
a
you
know,
a
how
feasible
it
is
looking
at
the
numbers
and
things
and
and
seeing
if
that
would
work.
But
another
suggestion
that
I
was
that
came
up
was
people.
The
trucks
are
trying
to
get
on
from
Mines
Road
and
from
I-69
all
to
the
bridge,
world
trade
and
they're
like
fighting
with
each
other
to
get
in,
and
then
the
people
that
have
been
in
line.
Forever
on
I-69
are
mad
because
the
people
on
minesworld
are
like
cutting
in.
So
what
I
was
thinking
police?
N
Maybe
we
could
eliminate
the
option
of
going
from
Mines
Road
onto
there
and
make
everybody
have
to
get
in
line
through
I,
I-35
or
I-69
and
I.
Don't
know
what
I'm
throwing
that
out
there
for
you
guys
to
chew
on
that
one,
but
I
I
think
that
would
help,
because
the
trucks
wouldn't
back
up
on
my
throat.
F
It's
gonna
make
a
few
comments.
I've
mentioned
this
a
couple
of
these
solutions
to
some
of
them
detects
on
some
to
myself
in
the
mirror,
but
so
the
emergency
situation.
The
reason
this
one
came
up
when
the
Mexican
side
shuts
down
Mines
Road
clogs
up.
As
we
all
know,
it
backs
up
going
north
from
69
up
towards
killum
that
the
faskin
family
owns
that
northwest
corner
right
there.
F
F
F
I
said:
look
I'm
going
to
mention
it,
I
don't
have
any
money,
TxDOT
says
they're
not
going
to
buy
it
and
it
has
to
be
a
partnership,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
ideas
we
discussed
was
potentially
having
an
emergency
storage
yard
for
incidents.
That
happened
and
I
think
that
I
mean
that's
doable
right
or
now
we
do
a
truck
parking
yard
outside
in
those
industrial
parks.
And
let
you
do
a
queuing
system
right,
you
call
in
say,
hey
I'm,
going
to
cross
a
bridge
and
they
give
you
a
time.
O
F
F
F
What
I
told
them
was
that
we
need
to
offer
our
services
in
the
freight
industry
and
our
nerds
on
the
team
to
look
at
this,
and
we
said
we
would
help
out
in
whatever,
whatever
design.
If
we
have
to
incorporate
technology
for
the
communication.
That
was
something
that
we
were
willing
to
work
towards,
but
you
know
decided
to
be
a
city-led
effort.
F
D
A
Ideas
in
I
think.
A
Let's
consider
that
you
know
maybe
obviously
we're
already
feeling
like
it's
January,
but
maybe
sometime
in
January.
We
we
get
a
our
committee
together
and
we
start
kicking
around
ideas
and
and
ranking
them
and
scoring
them
and
then
for
those
that
rise
to
the
top.
Maybe
we
can
have
some
some
action
item
owner,
you
know,
even
if
it
we
have
to
reach
out
to
Texas
Police
Department
Bridge
Department
landowners.
A
I
would
suggest
that
we
have
a
few
more
minutes
left
in
I
hate
to
I
hate,
to
cut
everybody
off,
but
I
think
we
have
one
more
topic
that
we'd
like
to
get
an
update
on
the
liquid
disposal
and
the
surveys
and
any
updates
Mr
Ford.
R
Hi
good
evening,
John
Porter
environmental
and
solid
waste
director
I'll
be
very
brief,
but
if,
if
the
committee
would
like
an
a
more
in-depth
discussion
next
time,
you
know
I
can
come
back
and
we
can
discuss
the
issue
more
in
depth.
A
R
Problem
so
we
we
did
receive
17
responses
to
the
liquid
waste
questionnaire,
bringing
it
up
so
I
can
show
the
committee
where
you
can
find
it
it's
right
here,
this
green
label.
So
if
you
haven't
filled
this
out,
you
do
have
liquid
waste.
Please
fill
it
out.
It
will
help
I
think
we
could
probably
do
an
event
sometime
in
January
February
again.
We
need
to
know
what
what
the
waste
is.
R
The
quantity
is
and
then
that
way
we
can
set
up
what
you
have
to
do:
a
universal
waste
application
which
we'll
send
out,
but
based
on
the
17
that
we've
received,
the
bulk
99.65
percent
of
what
was
submitted
is
is
hazardous.
We
can't
take
this.
This
is
hazardous
and
Ponderosa
can't
take
hazardous
and
the
city
can't
take
cause
of
it.
R
So
if
there's
a
DOT
placard
or
Hazard
sticker
on
that
product
or
it's
on
the
MSDS,
it's
a
good
idea
that
we
we
can't
take
that
and
So
you
you're
gonna,
have
to
take
that
to
a
hazardous
waste
disposal.
Facility,
Robstown
is
probably
the
closest,
but
you
know
we're
still
on
schedule
to
host
an
event,
but
again,
I
need
something
that
that
I
can
legally
accept.
I
did
get
a
email
today.
Somebody
wanted
to
get
rid
of
milk
I
need
to
find
out.
Is
that
liquid
milk?
Is
it
powdered
milk?
R
O
R
Yeah
once
we
once
we
get
a
decent
amount
that
that
one
was
a
a
fair
amount,
but
then,
on
the
other
on
the
other
products
that
were
listed
high
volume
there
were.
There
was
a
couple
that
said:
I
don't
have
any
liquids
now,
but
I'm
interested
in
in
the
future.
So
again
tell
your
friends
tell
your
family
or
whoever
to
fill
out
the
survey.
That
really
is
going
to
help
us
out
a
lot
and
then
once
we
go
through
that,
we'll
we'll
work
individually
with
with
everybody.
A
R
Right
now
it's
your
email
and
your
contact
name
and
then
I
I
get
a
copy
of
it
through
a
like
an
Excel
and
then
I
can
just
email,
you
or
or
call
you
so.
R
And-
and
you
know
on
something
that
that
we
can
definitely
take
you
know,
I
may
have
to
ask
for
if,
if
there
is
an
MSDS,
you
know
I'll
I'll,
let
you
know
or
if
it's
you
know
again,
a
food
product,
I
think
it's
it's
safe
and
and
so
we'll
send
out
that
Universal
ways
form
which
needs
to
be
filled
out,
because
we
we
just
need
to
keep
keep
a
record
of
what
we're
accepting.
O
R
Know
if
it's
a
few
cases
no-
and
you
know
we
could
work
something
out
there.
I
was
going
to
say
I
I
kind
of
I
I.
Don't
don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
you
know
if
it
was
a
palette,
a
small
palette.
R
R
Know
I
mean
if
that's
something
that
works
for
you
I'm,
going
to
get
rid
of
a
pallet
one
at
a
time
I'm
in
that
that
works
for
me,
I
don't
have
to
go
and
open
up
Ponderosa
to
do
that.
R
It
just
depends
on
how
many
pallets
you're
trying
to
get
rid
of,
but
if
you
can
bring
that
you
know
a
pallet
once
a
week
and
then
you're
done
at
the
end
of
three
weeks,
then
you
know
that
that
I
think
is
easier.
I
don't
have
to
move
personnel
and
Equipment
over
to
Ponderosa.
We
can
just
handle
that
at
the
regular
landfill.
R
I
mean
I,
I
mean
I,
I.
Think
I
think
we
can
do
that.
But
you
said:
don't
quote
well:
yeah
I,
don't
want
everybody.
You
know.
R
You
know
and
then
then
everybody's
trying
to
get
rid
of
a
pallet
and
then
then
that
comes
into
you
know,
becomes
a
problem
but
I
think
if
we
work
it
Case
by
case
you
know
we
can
work
something
out
but
yeah
on
on
very
large
quantities.
Multiple
truckloads,
yeah
we're
gonna
have
to
use
the
the
Ponderosa
side.
A
R
Is
the
the
idea
is:
if
we
get
a
large
enough,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
large
enough
group
of
people.
It
just
needs
to
be
a
large
enough
quantity
so
that
I
can
justify
the
rental
of
equipment
to
take
out
there.
Then
I
can
move
some
Personnel
out
there
and
then
we'll
do
it
we'll
do
it
by
appointment.
R
O
O
You
can
probably
bring
it
once
a
quarter
and
just
pass
it
over
everything
that
we
dumped
there
I
mean
that's
it's
just
so
we
understand
what
the
process
sounds
like,
and
so
we
have
a
better
understanding,
but
that
we
can
that
we
don't
have
to
pay
an
extra
freight
to
send
it
somewhere
else
to
dispose
of
it
or
throwing
it
in
ranches
or
things
like
that.
I
mean
that's
the
last
thing
we
would
want
to
do
to
dispose
of
something
and.
R
K
Just
want
to
say
that's
good
news
to
know
that
there's
options
now
I
represent
the
rental,
license
Customs
Brokers,
and
so
we
get
more
merchandise
that
comes
in
that's
refused,
generally
by
FDA,
but
other
stuff
too,
and
we
have
no
way
we
can't
export
it
back
to
Mexico.
We
can't
destroy
it
anywhere
and
we're
stuck
holding
in
our
warehouses
forever.
A
big
part
of
the
problem
that
started
a
lot
of
this
conversation
was
hand
sanitizer,
which
you've
just
informed
us
for
sure
can't
go
there
and
I.
K
Think
part
of
us
were
under
the
understanding
that
Ponderosa
was
Hazmat
could
do
liquids,
and
so,
if
that's
the
case,
then
we're
good
there,
but
there's
still
also
the
other
products
that
just
different
things,
that
are
liquids
that
have
wrong
food,
colorings
or
food
colorings
that
don't
meet
certain
certifications
and
and
they
have
to
be
destroyed
and
there's
no
place
to
do
that
and
the
nature
of
the
cost
of
the
products
and
then
transporting
it
to
some
place
like
Robstown,
and
all
that
is,
is
so
cost
prohibitive
that
it's
it's
not
funny.
R
L
Anybody
we
just
encourage
reach
out
to
your
contacts,
your
groups,
your
get
them
to
fill
out
the
survey
so
that
they
can
get
on
the
list
so
that
we
know
what's
out
there
and
Mr
Porter
is
planning
on
trying
to
see
based
on
the
response,
so
that
we
can
service
you
all.
But
we
also
need
cooperation
to
know
what's
there
to
coordinate
with
him
so
that
he
can
plan
a
certain
Saturday
or
whatever,
and
that
you
all
can
go
out
there
and
drop
off
what
you
can
he's
here
to
help.
K
Excellent
on
that
line,
if
there
are
quite
a
few
trailers
of
refused
hand,
sanitizers
that
are
still
stuck
here
after
since
2020
dangerous
stuff
stuck
in
people's
Warehouse.
Nothing
to
do,
but
they
can't
do
anything
with.
D
K
R
Awesome
so
I
mean
you
know
when
you
get
into
hazardous
waste,
that's
heavily
regulated.
That's
that's
a
tough
issue!
I
I,
I
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
you
all.
O
That
was
like
the
closest
to
them
that
they
would
refer
us
to
dispose
and
then
again
it's
merchandise
that
has
been
refused
by
FDA.
That
is
strictly
prohibited.
If
a
kid
gets
a
hold
of
it,
if
they
swallow
it,
they
can
die.
So
they
don't.
Even
let
us
export
it,
but
you
have
a
lot
of
different
issues.
You
have
issues
that
that
Mexico
is
saying.
Well,
if
you
send
it
back
to
me,
I'll
give
you
credit
the
other
one
is
they
went
bankrupt.
O
Then
you
have
other
cases
that
are
in
in
court
right
now
with
the
FDA,
because
they
don't
they
don't
want
to
give
it
back
to
them.
So
you
have
different
scenarios
and
there's
a
lot
of
warehouses.
I
mean
you.
You
saw
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
interested
because
they
probably
have
some
type
of
hand
sanitizers
in
their
warehouse.
That.
R
O
I
spoke
to
Congressman,
quiet
and
I,
told
him
what
I
mean.
This
is
something
that
they
want.
If
that's
what
they
want.
Well,
they
should
pay
for
the
destruction,
because
nobody
can
they
can't
even
do
anything
with
it
anymore.
So
it's
in
the
hands
of
the
FDA
they
should
be
able
not
dispose
of
it.
Let's
see
what
happens.
O
O
R
I
had
mentioned
that
Council
there
was
a
there's,
a
landfill
in
Missouri
that
caught
fire
and
it
burned
for
six
years
and
costs
200
million
dollars
to
to
put
out
and
remediate
so
yeah.
Landfill
of
fires
are
very
serious
and
so.
A
A
Schedule
next
meeting
date,
item
number
seven:
it
will
be
for
January
I've
lost
track
of
our
normal
Cadence.
Is
it
the
third
week
third
Wednesday
of
the
month?
Is
that
what's
typical?
A
So
if
we
look
at
our
calendars
and
revert
back
to
our
question,
so
January
18th
is
I,
guess
will
be
the
proposal
for
the
next
meeting
date.
A
January
18th
I
guess
we
need
a
motion.
Q
A
We
have
a
second
second,
all
those
are
favors.
Yeah
motion
passes
last
night.
I'm
on
the
agenda
is
adjournment.
Does
anybody
have
a
motion
for
it
in
Germany,
okay,
I
can
I
can
do
that.
We.
A
K
K
A
K
Believe
that
we
make
January's
18th
our
next
meeting
date
at
six
o'clock,
we
have
a
second
second
I,
believe
that
we
have.