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Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone 1 Directors Meeting 071123
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Serving
on
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
any
against
non-motion
passes
item
privacy
assistance.
Common
citizens
are
required
to
fill
out
a
witness
Cardinal
later
than
2
45
and
those
can
be
found
here
at
City
Hall
Chambers
comments
are
limited
to
pre-meds
per
speaker.
No
more
than
three
persons
will
be
allowed
to
speak
on
any
side
of
an
issue.
Speakers
may
not
pass
their
their
minutes
to
any
other
speaker.
Comments
should
be
relevant
to
City
business
and
deliver
in
a
professional
manner.
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A
Moments,
thank
you
very
much.
We're
going
to
move
on
to
presentation
items,
no
action
to
be
taken
on
these
items;
item
six
discussion
on
any
downtown,
related
effort
or
activity,
important
of
board
members
interest
or
concerned.
Are
there
any
topics
that
the
board
wants
to
discuss
as
a
presentation.
A
Not
hearing
any
we'll
move
on
to
item
seven
administrative
status,
update
on
ongoing
work
items
included
listed
listed
items
below
so
this
is
a
generic
list
that
we've
kind
of
kept
the
same.
Somebody
contacted
me
about
being
concerned
if
they
needed
to
be
here
with
a
presentation
from
the
risk
group
and
I
told
them.
Well,
it's
just
an
update.
I
know
you're
still
waiting
on
our
response
from
USDA,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
statement.
I
know.
D
I
will
just
briefly
touch
on
the
fact
that
we
do
have
for
you
all.
Today,
over
the
past
month,
we
did
meet
with
the
mural
subcommittee
team,
and
then
we
had
a
subsequent
meeting
with
the
council
member
to
go
over
some
more
trying
to
get
a
better
Direction
on
the
mural
process
and
how
we
wanted
that
to
go.
So
we
have
a.
D
We
have
a
brief
presentation
on
sort
of
what
came
out
of
those
that
that
meeting
for
for
you
all
today,
we
also
do
did
spend
some
time
with
our
design
team
working
through
the
finalizing
the
Civil
plans.
We
did
have
another
meeting
with
the
fire
department.
The
fire
department
is
here
today.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
them,
we
did
have
a
very
good
meeting.
This
was
on
Friday
I
believe
it
was.
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D
I
was
just
checking
to
see
if
we
were
trying
to
organize
a
meeting
with
with
the
traffic
director,
but
I
don't
believe
that
that
occurred
subsequent
to
that,
so
we
can
I
can
go
through
this
presentation
now
or
we
can
go
through
it.
When
you
all
go
into
the
action
items,
I
don't
know
how
you
all
want
to
handle
it.
A
Any
updates,
okay,
all
right,
any
questions
for
Rick
for
the
team
right.
If
there's
none,
we'll
move
on
to
action
items.
Thank
you
item.
Eight
update
presentation
and
discussion
with
possible
action
related
to
the
church
number
one
ongoing
phase,
one
Improvement
design
work
in
coordination
with
city
of
Greater
departments
as
may
be
required
and
requested
by
the
design
team.
Again
this
is
a
standing
item.
I
added
the
the
coordination
item
with
the
City
of
Laredo,
because
I
know
part
of
what's
remaining
is
to
get
work
out.
A
All
the
all
the
together
all
the
tweaks
that
we
need
to
make
it
work
for
the
different
stakeholders,
including
the
fire
department.
I,
know,
there's
a
huge
interest
in
making
sure
we
coordinate
with
the
utilities
department
so
that
we
are
not
tearing
up
what
we
just
built.
So
that's
going
to
be
very
important.
We
talked
about
how
we
engage
that
department
further
right.
So
you
all.
Let
us
know
you
know
if
you
think
it's
already
happening
or
if
we
need
to
set
up
a
separate
meeting.
We
can
also
do
that.
B
E
Okay,
good
afternoon
board
members
Edward
Ochoa
with
KCI.
We
can
go
ahead
and
go
through.
We've
got
a
couple
updates
that
I
guess
I
can
show
you
and
kind
of
go
through,
so
we've
been
working
over
this
time
as
we
continuously
do.
You
know
tweaking
some
of
our
Design
Concepts
to
get
down
to
you
know
something
finalized
as
we
get
comments
from
from
different
areas.
E
As
was
previously
mentioned,
we
did
have
a
meeting
with
Chief,
Hurd
and
and
chief
Dominguez
and
they're
at
their
office
on
Friday.
It
was
a
very
good,
very
productive
meeting.
We
got
some
input
from
them
that
allowed
us
to
kind
of
come
back
and
and
look
at
our
design
generally.
What
what
we
got
is
you
know:
they've
got
their
aerial
ladder
truck
that
we've
talked
about
that
Maneuvers
in
certain
areas
downtown,
so
we
need
to
be
considerate
of
of
their
maneuverability.
E
We
did
Express
to
them
that
we
are
using
that
concept
at
several
intersections
already,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
that
and
tweaking
it
up
and
I'll
discuss
one
of
the
intersections
here
in
a
minute.
But
what
we
did
leave
off
on
was
you
know
they.
They
had
gone
out
to
the
field
and
kind
of
ran
another
truck
analysis
at
some
of
the
intersections,
so
they're
a
little
bit
concerned
about
where
their
truck
turns
and
lies.
E
And
obviously,
when
you
go
out
there
today,
you
don't
see
where
the
new
curb
is
going
to
be
so
they're
trying
to
take
measurements
and
all
of
that
to
try
to
analyze
themselves.
What
I
had
suggested
at
our
meeting
on
Friday
was:
let's
take
an
opportunity
to
get
the
truck
out
there
again
and
I
can
survey
with
our
survey
equipment.
I
can
go
and
essentially
stake
out
where
that
line
would
be.
E
The
proposed
line
and
that'll
give
us
a
pretty
good
approximation
of
where
it
would
be
in
the
future,
and
then
you
know
they
can
make
their
Maneuvers,
and
we
can
see
you
know.
Is
it
really
an
issue
for
us
and
we
have
to
change
our
design
or
they
can
see
where
the
curb
is
going
to
be,
and
maybe
they're
they're
good
with
it.
E
So
we
agreed
to
do
that
and
we've
got
I
just
visited
with
with
Chief
Dominguez
a
minute
ago
before
the
meeting,
and
we've
got
some
tweaks
that
we're
doing
to
our
design
we're
going
to
prepare
for
next
week
to
to
schedule
some
time
to
go
to
the
field
and
do
that.
Do
that
iteration
I
think
that
one
last
iteration
would
get
them
to
feel
very
comfortable
with
the
design
that
we
want
to
present
physically
in
the
field.
E
We
kind
of
all
feel
it
see
where
it's
at
and
it
helps
us
too,
because
then
we
can
get.
An
idea
of
you
know
we're
running
a
truck
analysis
using
some
software
that
we
have
available
to
us
on.
Our
on
our
design
program-
but
you
know
we're
not
sure
if
that's
exact
right
I
mean
it's
a
software,
it's
an
analysis,
so
we
want
to
we're
going
to
cross-check
each
other,
so
we're
looking
at
doing
that
for
next
week.
So
that's
kind
of
our
update
on
the
fire
department.
E
E
A
Was
just
going
to
say
that
and
thank
you
Chief
Dominguez
for
being
here.
You
know
you,
you
know
we
work
with
you
all
and
with
you
specifically
over
different
projects
in
downtown
Bethany
house
was
one
of
them.
We
appreciate
you
all
being
collaborative
with
us,
so
one
thing
you
know
that
I
wanted
to
express
is
that
we're
all
for
providing
access
to
to
these
fire
vehicles?
I
think
there's
no
other,
there's
no
other
way
to
do
it,
but
where
I
would
like
for
there
to
be.
Some
consideration
is
where
we
know
we.
A
You
know
I've
mentioned
to
you
earlier.
If
we
know
the
ladder
truck
can't
go
up,
because
we've
got
utility
wires
everywhere
that
maybe
we
rethink
whether
those
improvements
are
necessary
because
you
still
are
not
going
to
achieve
it
based
on
those
utilities
right
and
you
you
guys,
can
make
that
final.
A
This
decision
on
whether
those
are
justifiable
or
not,
but
it
would
seem
to
me
like,
if
you're,
going
to
change
substantially
a
design
and
yet
you're
still
not
going
to
be
able
to
raise
your
ladder,
that,
maybe
you
don't
you,
don't
curtail
the
design
that
way.
Those
are
we
talked
about
the
very
quickly
just
in
passing
before
the
meeting
about
these
face-to-face
bump
outs.
He
gave
me
good
use
that
that
somebody
in
the
team
didn't
like
those
either
so
I
think
that's
that
wasn't.
A
The
one
request
I
had
last
time
is
to
avoid
the
face-to-face
you're
restricting
the
driveway
and
it
kind
of
goes
against
the
full
design
of
our
staggering.
So
those
are
my
two
comments,
but
I
think
you
all
can
can
reach
if
you
feel
that
you
can
reach.
You
know
a
a
good
point
of
of
agreement
to
get
all
these
things
done,
that'd
be
great,
but
if,
if
we
concede
a
lot
in
terms
of
design,
aesthetically
and
in
terms
of
walkability-
and
we
can't
get
the
ladder
up
anyway,
we
should
really
talk
through
those
versions.
No.
E
We
did,
we
did
talk
about
that.
We
did
talk
about
you
know
there
are
there.
Is
this
this
one
block?
In
particular,
we
call
block
one
has
wires
crisscrossing
and
we
kind
of
mentioned
that
and
I
think
the
feedback
that
we
got
is
you
know
they're
going
to
go
back
and
analyze
it
and
double
check
it.
One
last
time,
but
I
think
in
that
particular
block.
The
aerial
truck
would
be
able
to
raise
its
ladder
because
of
the
overhead
electrical
lines
and
and
communication
lines
that
crisscross
aerially.
E
So
in
that
particular
case
I
think
they're
we're
willing
to
work
with
us
and
consider.
You
know
on
a
block
by
block
basis
kind
of
consider
things
like
that
yeah.
So
we
did
work
through
those
things
staggering.
They
they
also
didn't
like
that.
We
had
the
bump
outs
together
and
then
I
kind
of
expressed.
You
know
we
were
bringing
we
actually
originally
had
staggered
bump
outs.
E
We
we
brought
the
bump
outs
together
as
a
way
to
possibly
you
know,
put
the
the
booms
and
it
would
leave
a
space
to
put
the
booms
out,
but
I
think
we
were
able
to
work
in
other
work
out,
another
design
concept
that
would
allow
for
that.
So
those
are
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got.
That
was,
you
know
very
positive,
I
guess
for
from
our
end
and
works
for
them
too,
and
so
we're
going
to
come
back
and
bring
those
in
great.
Thank
you.
E
I
wanted
to
show,
just
as
an
example,
I
wanted
to
show
this
intersection.
This
is
block
number
one,
so
this
is
Saragosa
and
this
is
Convent.
What
we're
looking
at
here
at
this
intersection
again
going
back
to
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
fire
department
is.
This
is
the
roadway
area
and
in
this
area
here
where
my,
where
I'm
pointing
is
the
sidewalk
area.
E
So
what
we
intend
to
do
here,
as
an
example,
is
you
would
ramp
down,
and
this
sidewalk
area
here
would
be
at
the
same
level
as
the
roadway,
and
so
that
would
allow,
for
you
know,
number
one:
pedestrian
traffic
Crossing
is
crossing
at
grade
and
and
then
number
two
is
since
we're
bringing
the
sidewalk
down
to
the
roadway
elevation.
Then
it
gives
the
fire
department,
the
aerial
truck,
an
ability
if
they
turn
and
they
happen
to
kind
of
cut
in
a
little
bit
too
much
they
can
run
over.
E
E
So
what
we
would
have
to
do
is
we
would
have
to
put
kind
of
a
small
strip
very
likely
it'll,
be
a
small
strip
of
concrete
that
looks
like
a
a
gutter
or
a
piece
of
curb,
and
that
would
act
as
a
color
contrast
between
Where,
the
Sidewalk
Ends
and
where
the
roadway
begins,
and
that
would
that
that
portion
would
be
on
top
of
where
the
curve
essentially
would
be
or
where
we
would
expect
the
curb
to
be
right.
But
it
would
be
again
at
grade.
E
So
we've
we've
made
some
tweaks
to
this.
To
this
intersection
and
and
and
brought
that
pedestrian
area
down
to
the
pavement
level,
one
of
the
other
things
that
we've
been
discussing
with
the
design
team
is
the
design
team
has
brought
up
a
concept
of
in
the
future,
possibly
having
some
kind
of
a
large
structure
overhanging
the
intersection
of
convent
Zaragoza.
E
It
wouldn't
be
something
that
would
be
part
of
this
project
or
built
with
this
project,
but
it's
something
that
would
be
looked
at
in
the
future.
What
we
want
to
look
at
or
what
we're
considering
as
a
design
team,
is
making
sure
that
we
have
the
room
to
install
something
like
that.
You
know
if
we
set
polls,
you
know
we
don't
want
that
structure
to
be
built
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
we're
having
to
move
sidewalks
and
curves
to
account
for
it
right.
E
So
what
you
see
here
is
you
see
these
four
black
circles
and
we're
labeling
it
as
proposed
future
traffic
poll?
So
the
idea
there-
and
this
is
part
of
the
coordination
with
the
traffic
department,
as
this
topic
came
up-
is
in
in
the
Houston
Galleria
area.
It's
it's
actually
the
traffic
signal
poll,
that's
just
really
tall
and
has
the
anchors
that
hold
the
system
together,
and
on
that
same
pole,
you
have
the
traffic
signal
arm
with
the
lights
on
it.
E
So
this
is
going
to
be
something
if,
if
it,
if
it
gets
completed
in
the
future,
it'll
be
something
we
need
to
coordinate
with
the
traffic
department
and
actually
have
those
traffic
signal
poles
relocated
to
to
this
location
here,
where
we're
showing
so
that
it
does
its
kind
of
double
duty
right.
It
holds
the
aerial
structure
and
it
holds
the
traffic
signals.
E
E
Okay,
so
here
this
is
I'll
show
real
quick.
This
is
the
same,
drawing
same
intersection,
but
I'll
zoom
into
the
intersection,
and
what
we
did
here
is
we
turned
on
the
this.
Is
we
call
this
in
the
fire
truck
turning
movement?
So
all
I
did
is
I
just
turned
on
the
the
fire
truck
that
we're
using
in
our
design,
analysis.
E
E
So
what's
important
for
us
that
we
need
to
see
here
is
you
know
we
need
to
make
sure
you
know
here
we
have
a
little
bit
of
the
green
going
over
the
curb.
That's
just
the
bumper
going
over
the
curb.
We
need
to
make
sure
we
don't
put
a
power
pole
or
a
traffic
sign,
or
something
right
at
that
spot
right.
So
we
want
to
keep
all
those
areas
clear.
E
So
there
won't
be
any
issues
with
them
just
right
driving
over
that
one
spot
right
there,
and-
and
this
is
where
the
traffic
I
mean,
with
the
fire
truck
design
kind
of
getting
pushed
to
the
exterior
here.
The
fire
truck
will
drive
a
little
bit
on
top
of
the
existing
bike
lane
just
to
make
the
maneuver
and
then
they'll
Square
back
up
into
the
roadway.
So
that's
all
that
we're
showing
here
on
this
design
and
again
fire
department
hadn't,
seen
this
yet
because
we've
been
tweaking
this
up,
but
this
is
what
we'll
present
to
them.
E
And
then,
when
we
go
to
the
field,
we'll
Analyze
This
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
Mark
where
this
curve
would
be,
and
we
could
also
Mark
where
this
portion
will
be
here
and
then
have
them,
make
the
maneuver
in
the
field
and
then
determine
what
kind
of
spatially
you
know.
Is
it
working
for
both
of
us.
E
B
A
quick
comment
when
he
says
the
bumper
comes
out.
One
of
the
comments
that
was
made
is
the
fire
truck.
The
driver
is
actually
sitting
in
front
of
the
front
tire
most
of
us
in
our
cars.
The
front
tires
in
front
of
us,
but
in
this
case
it's
it's
behind
the
driver
so
as
they're
turning
that's
why
that
Bumper's
out
in
front
so
if
that
kind
of
helps
out
with
that,
I
didn't
really
think
about
that
until
they
explained
that
to
me.
B
F
E
A
Send
an
email
right
just
to
okay,
yeah
we'll
do
that
I,
don't
think
we
have
an
option.
I
think
we
need
to
coordinate
with
to
address
that
use.
I,
don't
know
that
it
would
change
permanently
I
I
know
the
question
arise
like
what
are
the
options?
Do
we
have
room
to
move
them
back
or
or
on
the
side
street
on
the
other
Street
on
Convent?
You
know
those
options
so
yeah.
E
E
But
yep
that's
what
I
I!
That
was
really
kind
of
the
updates
that
we
had
on
on
this.
This
was
kind
of
one
of
the
main
intersections
that
I
wanted,
that
we've
kind
of
updated,
mainly
because
of
the
the
intersection
layout
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
future
structure
that
we've
been
discussing
and
placing
that
or
trying
to
place
that
for
the
future.
E
E
And
then
the
second
one
is
this
one
that
I
showed
the
Saragosa
Convent.
It's
really
more
at
the
turns
that
they're
concerned
about
some
space.
Again,
we
did
talk
about
some
areas
in
the
middle
like
along.
It
will
be
there
where
we
had
the
bump
outs
brought
in
and
we
left
them
about
12
feet
of
passable
space
and
they're
saying
well.
E
A
H
I
I,
don't
have
those
statistics
I
know
we
have
had
several
fires
in
the
downtown
area,
but
one
thing
I
did
want
to
clarify
when
we
think
of
an
aerial
truck.
The
first
thing
everybody
thinks
of
is
raising
the
Boom
for
rescue
right
to
Upper
levels,
but
that's
not
the
only
thing
that
that
truck
does.
When
we
have
a
fire
downtown.
We
send
multiple
units,
you
have
a
district
Chief,
you
have
an
ambulance,
you
have
a
fire
engine
and
then
you
also
have
the
aerial
truck,
but
each
one
of
those
trucks
serves
a
different
purpose.
I
Fire
engine
is
going
to
go
out
there
and
their
their
primary
duty
is
fire
attack.
But
when
you
bring
an
aerial
truck
in
aerial,
trucks
are
in
charge
of
rescue
they're
in
charge
of
utilities,
cutting
off
water,
the
gas
they're
also
in
charge
of
ventilation.
There's
a
lot
of
functions
that
that
truck
does
that
is
not
the
responsibility
or
duty
of
the
regular
engine,
so
not
being
able
to
get
these
trucks
close
enough
to
these
buildings
can
severely
hamper
your
fire
ground
operation.
I
So
I
did
want
to
clarify
that
that
that's
not
the
only
purpose
of
that
aerial
truck
so
and
and
I
do
want
to
thank
Mr
Ochoa
because
he's
come
and
he's
kind
of
tweaked
it
his
creativity.
His
ideas
is
making
this
possible
because
for
the
fire
department
side
I
mean
we've.
Never
that
I
can
remember,
since
I've
been
here
approved
something
so
narrow.
I
We've
always
tried
to
get
a
minimum
of
20
feet
and
in
some
of
these
areas
we're
kind
of
looking
at
12,
but
the
chief
is
very
invested
in
making
this
work
and
together
going
in
and
redesigning
going
and
doing.
These
runs
I
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
almost
there,
where
we
haven't
touched
so
much
the
Aesthetics
of
what
you're
trying
to
achieve
the
Aesthetics
and
the
functionality
of
the
design,
I
think
has
just
barely
been
tweaked,
while
we'll
still
have
just
the
bare
minimum
access,
so
I
think
we're
we're
almost
there.
I
So
I
think
in
this
next
trial
run
that
we
go
to
I.
Think
we're
gonna
build
to
get
it
that
way.
We
can
get
the
trucks
that
we
need
out
there
because
remember
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
talking
about
the
the
safety
and
lives
of
the
people
that
are
in
those
buildings
and
then
the
safety
of
the
firefighters.
Also,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
the
job
that
that
you
assign
us
to
do.
I
We
want
to
do
that,
but
we
need
the
access
to
be
able
to
do
it,
but
with
the
work
Mr
Ochoa
is
putting
in
the
trial
runs
we've
gone
out,
there
I
think
we're
almost
there,
and
this
is
something
brand
new
for
us.
Something
we've
we've
never
done
before,
and
I
really
really
believe
that
we're
almost
there.
So
you
can
have
the
we
know
how
important
this
is.
I
That's
why
the
Chiefs
putting
so
much
effort
in
it,
so
we're
I
think
I
really
believe
that
we're
almost
there,
where
you're
going
to
get
the
looks
and
function
that
you're
looking
for
the
the
larger
sidewalks,
the
trees,
The
Greenery,
and
we
can
still
have
the
access
that
we
need,
so
that
people
who
are
going
to
occupy
because
remember
we're
trying
to
to
get
downtown
moving
again.
We
want
it
occupied,
so
we're
looking
at
buildings
that
are
going
to
have
more
people
in
them.
I
Potentially
changes
of
occupancy,
also
where
some
of
these
buildings
can
be
turned
into
apartment
complexes.
The
U.S
fire
Administration
talks
about
what
90
I
think
89.
Depending
on
what
year
you
get
the
statistics
89
to
90
of
all
fire
fatalities
happen
where
people,
sleep
and
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
they're
looking
for
in
downtown
area
is
to
start
turning
that
into
apartment
buildings,
and
if
we
can,
these
changes
that
we're
making
are
pretty
much
permanent.
I
A
E
You
know
well
said
by
the
chief:
we've
worked
together
quite
a
bit
on
this,
so
behind
the
scenes
there's
been
a
lot
of
behind
the
scenes
stuff,
but
the
important
thing
here
is,
you
know
getting
this
tweaked
to,
and
this
is
the
first
phase
of
it
right
of
of
future
downtown
improvements,
but
we're
almost
set
in
a
very
unique
design
standard
that
we
hope
once
we
address
when
we
do
phases,
two
three,
four
five
and
so
on
these
we've
already.
You
know:
we've
already
addressed
the
major
issues
with
the
fire
department.
E
If
we
establish
these
standards,
get
them
in
writing
then,
as
we
move
forward
in
the
downtown
area,
we're
respecting
all
of
these
Design
Concepts.
So
a
little
bit
of
a
painful
step,
you
know
so
I'm
taking
a
little
bit
longer
for
us
to
kind
of
iron
things
out,
but
I'm,
very
confident
that
we've
got.
He
said
it
very
well
we're
very
close
to
getting
this
figured
out.
They've
done
a
tremendous
job
in
in
listening
to
our
our
design,
ideas
and
finding
ways
to
to
work
with
us.
H
H
J
E
H
D
Yeah,
we
can
look
at
doing
that.
I.
Think
I.
Think
the
important
thing
to
note
on
the
trees
is
that
there
are
tree
grates
on
those
trees,
so
we're
trying
to
maintain
we're
trying
to
leave
about
from
like
the
center
line
of
the
tree
to
the
wall,
about
three
and
a
half
feet.
So
that's
enough
room
to
navigate
a
wheelchair
through
there.
F
J
H
F
H
H
A
H
H
Thank
you,
I
just
I
had
one
more
well
two
things
really
and
I
I
know:
Mr
Joy,
you've
been
very
helpful
working
with
the
community
and
trying
to
bring
the
stakeholders
in
and
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
work
with
so
many
opinions.
But
I
I
would
like
to
see
in
the
spirit
of
of
openness
and
inclusive
inclusivity,
that
the
that
the
people
in
this
area
that
where
this
is
going
to
happen,
that
they
have
the
option,
the
opportunity
and
I
know
we
did
that
before.
H
But
it
was
early
on
and
there
weren't
these
details
in
place
that
we
could
really
give
the
people
that
are
running
businesses
and
owning
property
there
the
opportunity
to
maybe
come
together,
and
we
could
do
it
there
at
one
of
the
stores.
You
know
that's
right
in
that
area,
so
it's
not
it's
not
cumbersome
to
get
people
to
come
so
that
they
could
see.
H
D
D
I
think
the
brick
was
just
something
that
we
we
talked
about,
maybe
introducing
to
tie
it
back
to
the
airport
area,
with
the
brick
that's
being
used
out
there.
You
know
it
was
an
idea
that
we
that
that
we've
talked
about,
but
the
the
main
reason
for
what
you
see
here
is
we're
really
trying
to
utilize
that
space
better.
That
bench
was
really
not
serving
its
its
purpose,
so.
H
So
what
it
does
to
that
business
right
is
hide
it
behind
a
wall.
It
looks
like
and
I
like
I,
don't
see
the
dimensions
right,
so
I
can't
I
can't
speak
to
you
know
exactly
what
that's
going
to
look
like,
but
but
you
do
see
that
if
someone
has
those
businesses
that
are
well,
that's
an
empty
building
and
and
and
I'd,
you
know
full
disclosure.
A
D
D
G
For
the
record,
and
one
of
the
intentional
that
that
will
be
in
that
high
is
because,
because
if
you
provide
a
sitting
area
for
a
restaurant,
for
example,
if
people
use
on
the
other
side
a
different
level
and
they
might
be
able
to
see
someone
sitting
right.
So
that
is
why
we
made
it
that
high.
But
it
could
be
okay.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah
I
would
miss
Alexander
I
would
think
that
you
probably
want
to
see
where
the
bit
I
agree
with
you
the
bill
where
the
building
face
like
what
is
the
cutoff
for
the
buildings
is,
if
I'm
a
business
owner
which
I'm
not
this,
might
be
an
amenity
that
you're
getting
that's
really
not
costing
the
business
owner
and
anything
and
it's
creating
additional
space
for
them
to
be
able
to
use.
You
know.
A
E
So
so
again
so
everybody
remembers,
there
is
a
great
difference
between
the
high
side
and
the
low
side,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
wall.
That's
at
least
maybe
12
to
18
inches
tall
I.
Think
it's
about
18
inches
on
the
average,
so
you'll
have
that,
but
I
mean
18.
Inches
is
only
up
to
about
knee
level
for
us
right.
So
it's
not
very
much
what
you
do
above
that
I
guess
you
know
you
can
either
bring
it
break
up
higher
and
then
have
rail
or
just
from
that
18
inch
right
eye
area.
E
J
A
H
K
For
the
record,
Marcelo
Rivera
from
Lebanon
Main,
Street
I,
just
wanna,
again
insist
that
Texas
historical
commission
has
reached
out
to
me.
They
are
very
interested
in
the
Zaragoza
project,
because
they've
saw
what
happened
when
the
mall
was
built
and
that
side
where
we
have
absolutely
empty
stores,
all
the
all
that
street
and
they
are
willing
to
look
at
the
design
and
remember
they
have
they're
they're,
also
a
design
team,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
other
downtowns
with
maybe
similar
Pro
problems.
So
I
mean
I
just
want
to
offer
again.
K
A
A
A
K
H
This
looks
great
I'm,
hoping
that
councilor
Seattle
back
there.
Thank
you
for
coming
we'll,
maybe
talk
with
us,
because
this
is
just
one
block,
and
maybe
we
could
include
at
least
maybe
just
get
the
drawings
ready
at
this
point
for
the
south
side
of
the
street,
because
this
is
going
to
look
markedly
better
and
then
the
south
side
of
the
street
is
going
to
look
the
way
it
looks
now,
and
you
know
maybe
the
cost
would
be.
E
So
the
south
side
of
the
street,
the
south
side
of
the
street,
from
what
we've
looked
at
I
guess
is
it
currently
has
sidewalk,
and
then
you
have
steps
kind
of
in
between
the
buildings
and
that
one
I
think
tends
to
be
a
almost
a
whole
continuous
building
the
north
side
of
the
street.
Believe
it
or
not,
there's
small
gaps
in
between
the
buildings
that
have
some
separation,
but
yeah
I
mean
there
were
some
great
differences
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
similar
to
the
south
side
of
the
street.
E
The
south
side
of
the
street
already
had
steps
that
you
would
walk
up
on
in
between.
So
we
would
need
to
look
at
you
know,
certainly
on
that
side
of
the
street
is
how
those
steps
would
incorporate.
You
I
think
it
would
be
much
more
difficult
to
maybe
make
a
Ada
accessible
route
through
over
there,
but
at
least
you
have
the
north
side
of
the
street.
That's
Ada
accessible
right
to
go
from
point
A
to
point
B
or
point
A
to
point:
is
that
permissible,
as.
E
E
There
are
some
ways:
I,
don't
want
to
say
ways
out
of
it
right,
but
there
are
some
Alternatives
that
can
be
considered
mainly
when
you're
looking
at
an
existing
downtown
and
an
existing
facility.
Existing
buildings
limited
space
Ada
does
have
some
some
Alternatives
you
can
consider.
So
we
just
need
to
see
if
you
know
having
an
ADA
accessible
route
on
one
side,
but
not
the
other
is
is
acceptable
to
Ada.
We
need
to
kind
of
look
into
that
further.
E
H
Do
you
have
any
ideas
about
how
we
could
maybe
meet
with
some
of
those
business
owners,
because
there's
Mr
cruthers
wanted
to
be
here
today,
but
he
had
another
meeting
and
he's
represents
the
weather
interests
which
are
open
on
this
street
and
and
I
see
they
have
kind
of
like
a
flat
and
I
think
that's
their
curb
cut
still
in
there.
Yes,.
A
D
A
A
E
E
Corner,
yes,
sir
correct
so
as
an
example
on
the
North
side,
since
we
knew
we
were
working
on
the
North
side
as
part
of
our
scope,
we
got
every
single
door
as
a
spot
elevation
because
we
knew
we
were
working
on
that
side
on
the
South,
Side
I
believe
we
tied.
We
definitely
have
the
curb
tied
and
we'll
probably
have
some
sidewalk
shots.
I,
don't
know
if
we
tied
every
single
door,
it
might
be
a
little
bit
of
additional
field
work,
but
we
do
have
some
on
the
south
side
right
now.
E
A
All
right
so
I'll,
post
this
to
the
board
I,
think
the
item
allows
it
the
way
it's
written
any
other,
as
maybe
requested
by
the
design
team.
So
you
guys
haven't
requested
it.
But
do
we
want
to
entertain
mocking
up
the
a
potential
design
for
the
south
side
of
Zaragoza
without
in
my
eyes,
without
disrupting
the
phase
one
project,
because
I
think
we're
knee-deep
in
finalizing
that,
with
the
board
want
to
entertain
that.
B
A
Everybody
understand
this
is
the
costly,
as
in
my
eyes
it
cost
DS
block
per
square
foot.
You
all
disagree
with
that,
so
so
just
everybody
be
advised,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
think
it
hurts
to
have
some,
even
if
it's
conceptual
design
in
the
event,
I
think
this
block
probably
will
need
to
get
done
sometime
in
the
future.
This
other
half
right.
So
we
kind
of
carved
the
things
that
we
thought
we
could
afford.
You
know
we
keep.
A
Adding
more
will
be
when
this
number
comes
back,
we'll
we'll
have
less
we'll
be
able
to
do
less.
But
as
long
as
you
know,
everyone's
aware
and
advised
I
don't
see.
I
personally
don't
see
an
issue.
A
lot
of
the
survey
Works
probably
already
done,
but
I
don't
want
to
personally
I,
don't
want
to
send
the
team
on
an
engine
to
fully
design
something
when
we're
finalizing
phase.
One
I
think
we're
going
to
be
back
in
that
in
that
area.
Hopefully,
within
18
months
with
the
next
Grant,
so
I
mean
I'll.
L
Yeah
now,
just
to
your
point
that
you
know
I've
really
I
don't
want
to
distract
from
breaking
ground.
I
want
to
turn
some
dirts
in,
and
so
you
know
absolutely
in
the
future
agreeing
we
should
get
the
surveys,
but
I
don't
want
to
slow
down
our
process.
I
know
we'll
talk
about
procurement
next,
but
getting
those
bids
out
sooner
rather
than
later.
So
we
can
start
the
process.
B
E
If,
if
we
have
enough
information,
I
will
certainly
let
let
everybody
know
that
we
wouldn't
need
to
do
additional
work
for
that
from
a
survey
perspective
right,
but
I
need
to
just
go
back
and
look
at
our
files
to
determine
how
much
detail
we
have
and
if
we
have
enough
but
I
believe
we
might
need
to
go
to
the
field
and
maybe
get
some
additional
survey
just
to
kind
of
supplement.
What
we
already
have
and
then
I
think
you're
discussing
a
conceptual
layout
as
part
of
this
discussion,
yeah
so
yeah.
E
That
definitely
would
have
to
be
part
of
our
scope
to
look
at.
In
addition-
and
you
know,
like
I,
said,
investigate
Ada
and
looking
into
possibility
of
whether
we
have
to
make
it
an
ADA,
accessible
route
or
there's.
A
possibility
to
you
know
have
this
to
have
the
steps
that
are
currently
there
and
just
just
kind
of
redo
the
whole
concept.
You
know.
H
E
Yeah
I
mean
I
do
recall
that
we
have
miscellaneous
additional
miscellaneous
improvements
as
part
of
our
scope.
That's
already
been
approved
and
I
think
there
was
some
budget
set
aside
for
that
and
I
think
generally
I
think
we've
used
that
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
look
at
the
park
part
the
angled
parking
right.
E
H
H
E
Already
yes,
ma'am
yeah,
yeah
and
I
like
I,
said:
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn.
I
need
to
double
check.
What
we
have
on
our
CAD
file,
I'm,
very
positive.
We
have
some
shots.
Some
elevation
shots
along
the
South
Side
I,
don't
know
how
much
we
have
I,
don't
recall
if
we
got
a
measurement
at
every
single
door
on
the
south
side,
because
we
did
that
on
the
North
side,
understanding
that
we
had
to
whatever
we
did
with
the
sidewalk
had
to
match
the
door
on
the
North
side
right.
E
H
E
That
would
be
something
we
would
have
to
do
on
the
south
side.
Also,
because
you
know
the
south
side
has,
if
you
look
at
it
right
now,
it
has
steps
almost
between
each
building
or
each
unit.
There
are
steps
on
the
outside
sidewalk,
so
that
tells
me
that
there's
got
to
be
a
drop
in
the
foundation
somewhere
in
between
there.
We
just
need
to
look
and
investigate
is
the
drop
external
or
is
it
partially
internal
or
is
it
both?
You
know,
and
that
just
takes
a
field
visit
to
do
that.
A
E
H
A
H
A
B
H
E
Mean
I
don't
believe
it's
a
whole
ton
of
work.
Honestly,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
whole
ton
of
work,
I'm,
pretty
confident.
We've
got
a
good
amount
of
information,
but
to
get
into
a
maybe
conceptually,
you
know
having
some
information,
conceptually
I'm,
probably
pretty
sure.
We've
got
enough,
maybe
to
do
a
conceptual
layout.
But
if
we're
talking
about
looking
at
exact
elevations
and.
A
E
E
But
if
we're
talking
about
getting
into
some
of
the
details
that
we
have
here,
I'm
not
saying
a
full-blown
design,
but
getting
into
some
of
the
details
that
we
had
on
the
North
side,
where
we're
looking
at
split
elevations
and
knowing
how
high
that
difference
would
be.
I
might
need
to
go
back
and
spot
check
a
lot
of
those
doors
so
that
we
know
how
close
we
are
right.
A
Yeah
that
motion
clear
so
the
so
the
motion
as
I
understand
it
is
to
come
back
or
to
to
request
that
our
civil
engineer
produce
the
information
to
assess
whether
we
have
enough
data
to
do
a
conceptual.
Drawing.
Is
that?
What
is
that?
It
sounds
good
understood
has
been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye.
J
A
A
E
Yeah
I
mean
we're
pretty
much
at
90
percent.
You
know
two
main
things
and
I
mentioned
it
at
the
last
meeting.
Is
you
know
addressing
the
concerns
and
needs
of
the
fire
department
and
making
sure
they
work
with
ours
and
and
certainly
kind
of
hand
in
hand
is
with
the
traffic
department,
because
you
know
as
we're
like
what
I
showed
at
the
convent
intersection.
E
You
know
affects
pedestrian
movement
and
traffic
department
items
too,
so
it's
almost
like
got
to
go
through
one
and
make
sure
everything's
good
and
then
go
to
the
other,
make
sure
everything's
good
and
then
kind
of
get
them
all
together
right.
So
we've
talked
about
doing
maybe
a
joint
meeting
with
the
traffic
and
fire
department
so
that
we
can
hash
it
all
out,
but
those
are
really
the
two
main
things.
E
Correct
so
utilities
you
know
the
utilities
director
had
had
was
at
that
meeting
that
we
had
at
the
city
manager's
office
several
months
ago
and
mentioned
that
he
would
just
stay
in
front
of
us
as
do
go
going
through
construction.
So
I
think
at
this
point.
What
we
probably
need
to
do
is
just
decide
that
we're
going
to
go
in
an
order
block
one
through
block
nine
in
construction
and
just
let
the
utilities
director
know
that
and
make
sure
that
he's
already
got
it
in
his
schedule
to
have
those
improvements.
E
If
he's
got
any
improvements
on
block
one,
for
example,
this
is
Saragosa
from
Convent
to
Salinas.
We
need
to
tell
them
now.
This
is
the
first
one
we're
going
to
start
with
and
then
he
needs
to
make
sure
he's
already
working
or
doing
whatever
improvements
he
needs
to
do
now,
and
then
he
stays
ahead
of
us.
We
will
coordinate
with
him
I'll
work
on
setting
up
a
meeting
with
him.
It's
been
several
months
since
we
met
and
talked
about
that,
and
he
was
very
willing
to
be
in
front
of
us.
E
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much,
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
action,
then,
on
this
item,
we'll
move
on
to
action.
Next
action
item
discussion
with
possible
action
to
authorize
the
use
of
competitive
seal
proposal,
procurement
and
project
delivery
method
for
church
number,
one
phase,
one
projects
and
I
I
added
that
to
the
agenda,
knowing
that
we
still
had
some
pending
discussion
with
the
city
engineer
and
the
procurement
Department
I,
don't
think
I
did
not
hear
back
so
I,
don't
think
we
have
the
update.
A
We
are
trying
to
establish
if
this
process
of
the
construction,
our
construction
project
would
be
eligible
to
use
this
process.
So
this
is
a
process
that
would
allow
us
to
take
in
kind
of
qualifications
and
a
rating
criteria
and
not
just
a
bit
a
bit
number.
So
this
item
probably
will
come
back
next
month.
The
procurement
Department
director
I
believe,
was
out
so
he
hadn't
been
able
to
chime
in
on
this
topic.
A
Just
need
some
clarification:
I'll,
move
on
to
item
10,
update
and
discussion
of
possible
action
related
to
the
development
implementation
of
church
number,
one
mural
in
storefront
program,
setting
key
requirements
obtaining
Property,
Owners
permission
or
approval
and
any
other
matters
incident
there
too.
So
this
is
the
the
SEC.
The
follow-up
of
this
item
to
the
last.
The
last
me
and
I
know:
there's
Rick.
You
spoke
about
several
meetings.
If
you
want
to
kind
of
recap
and
then
take
us
through,
what's
next
steps,
sure.
D
So
again,
Rick
Solis,
with
able
city
we
we
had
a
committee
meeting
where
we
talked
about
some
of
the
items
that
were
brought
up
at
the
last
tourist
meeting.
Probably
item
number
one
was
site:
selection,
I
think
we
have
presented
a
couple
of
sites
and
I
think
at
that
time
the
consensus
was
well
come
back
with
more
sites,
so
so
we've
actually
gone
and
done
that
and
and
as
the
committee
met,
we
developed
some
ideas.
D
Just
some
of
the
comments
that
came
from
that
was
instead
of
using
utilizing
plywood
for
those
storefronts,
somebody
came
with
the
idea
of
maybe
using
window
decals
instead
they're
easy
to
stick
on
and
take
off,
which
I
think
everyone
that
we've
talked
to
agrees
is
probably
the
way
to
go
as
opposed
to
boarding
up
a
window.
Now,
if
the
wind
is
already
boarded
up
well,
then
we
can
use
that,
otherwise
we
can
maybe
utilize
some
of
those
storefronts.
D
D
That
particular
procurement
document
stated
had
a
stated
funding,
amount
and
I.
Think
it's
of
the
committee
sort
of
agreed
that
we
shouldn't
give
any
funding
amount.
It's
it
should
be
like
here's,
a
mural,
you
tell
us
what
it's
going
to
cost
to
include
everything,
and
then
they
can
be
ranked
in
that
order.
D
D
So
in
looking
at
the
different
locations
that
we've
talked
about,
we
sort
of
broke
them
down
into
murals
and
storefronts
right.
It's
all
part
of
the
same
program
now
the
murals
being
areas
one
other
thing,
I'd
like
to
add
that
we
did
figure
out
with
in
talking
with
the
the
building
department,
was
that
murals
per
se
don't
need
a
permit.
Unless
it's
in
the
historic
district
Landmark
work
region,
then
it
goes
to
that
different
process.
But
as
far
as
getting
a
permit
for
mural,
you
don't
need
that.
D
Whereas
for
a
sign
you
would
there's
still
a
in
the
OR
signage
ordinance.
There's
a
process
for
that
that
talks
about
the
approvals
that
you
need
to
get,
but
for
the
most
part,
that's
not
included
so
that
so
you're
not
limited
to
the
size
either.
You
know,
whereas
inside
an
ordinance,
certain
sizes
are
limited
to
a
certain
area
where
we're
not
limited
to
that
in
this
case.
D
D
D
So
we
talked
about
these
two.
We
talked
also
about
potentially
the
there's
a
large
area
here
on
the
corner
street
for
another
mural
and
I
do
know
that
that
wall
texture
isn't
great,
but
it's
sort
of
an
idea
like
it's
also
on
the
way
to
the
outlets
you
can
be
walking
looking
and
seeing,
and
then
what
other
area
was
the
the
corner
of
Selena,
Street
and
and
Santa
Rosa?
D
D
Exactly
that
that
you
can
utilize
this
wall
for
that
I
think
a
couple
of
other
locations
we
talked
about,
and
this
one
the
one
on
Saturday.
We
had
already
had
that
on
our
previous
murals
location,
but
we
still
think
it's
a
viable
location
along
Salinas
I
mean
San,
Jose
Avenue,
and
then
this
other
one
is
also
on
San
Agustin
Avenue
right
in
front
of
the
it's
on
the
south
west
corner
of
the
intersection
of
San
Augustine,
and
it
will
be
there.
D
It's
the
the
diocese
parking
lot
is
right
here
on
the
other
side,
so
as
far
as
murals,
and
we
we
sort
of
switched
it
from
trying
to
locate
in
different
areas
of
the
city
to
really
focusing
in
on
Saragosa
and
then
alongside
Augustine
and
Flores
Street.
We
think
that
that
that's
the
most
trafficking
trafficked
areas
for
people
walking
from
La
Posada
to
or
from
San
Jose
Cathedral
to
Santa,
Rosa
and
then
up
and
down
Flores
and
San
Jose
to
the
Center
for
the
Arts.
D
With
regards
to
storefronts
again,
there's
a
lot
of
them,
but
we
just
sort
of
labeled
a
few
of
them.
There's
this
one
right
at
the
corner
of
Santa
Rosa
right
by
that
billboard,
there's
a
lot
of
glass.
There
I
think
right
now,
there's
a
picture
of
some
hot
dogs
and
but
again
it's
a
beautiful
strawberry.
You
can
see
they
had
already
used
decals
before
for
advertisement.
D
Talked
about
yes,
yeah
yeah,
exactly
so
then
Flores
again
right
in
front
of
Center
for
the
Arts
there's
some
there's
some
other
areas
that
that
that
just
could
use
some
TLC,
even
along
hidal
street,
where
the
Plaza
theater
is
some
of
those
buildings
are
not
Plaza
theater.
On
the
other
side,
so
again,
we've
tried
to
just
identify
different
areas,
I
think
conceptually.
D
A
A
H
A
Think
if
we
decided
to
I
think
in
part
that's
correct
like
if
we
decided
these
are
the
spaces,
but
once
you
invite
folks,
then
it
has
to
be.
There
has
to
be
some
solicitation
like
if
we,
if
we
made
a
decision
that
we're
going
to
use
this
money
in
this
particular
wall,
I
think
that
generally
sounds
correct,
but
the
minute
we
invite
we
invite
the
public,
and
even
there
there's
a
property
owner,
a
private
property
owner.
A
You
know,
I
think
that
would
probably
require
some
analysis
of
whether
we
would
need
to
be
competitive
in
selecting
the
space,
but
I.
Think
part
of
this
invitation
is
kind
of
beating
the
drama,
Redevelopment
and
getting
folks
excited
about
right.
This
process,
but
I
anyway,
partially,
like
I,
said
I,
do
agree
that
the
sport
could
use
those
funds
the
way
themes
of
project
the
project
project
appropriate.
A
A
But
I
do
agree
that,
just
like
we
have
I
mean
we
agree
to
put
a
monument
at
a
particular
Corner.
That's
what
this
board
is
charged
with
deciding
that
so
I
do
agree
that
you
have
there's
that
leniency,
not
100
sure
on
whether
we
if
we
pick
a
space,
if
it's
a
public
space
I
think
we
can
make
that
decision.
But
if
it's
private
space,
private
wall
I,
think
you
know
that's
kind
of
in
a
gray
area.
In
my
in.
D
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J
D
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F
A
D
D
A
L
The
question
would
be:
do
we
want
to
do?
We
want
the
committee
to
take
on
contacting
the
the
business
owners,
which
is
absolutely
fine,
but
having
that
as
part
of
the
evaluation
process,
too,
you
know
the
artist
you
know
here
are
some
areas
and
you
know
I
think
we
want
to
have
some.
You
know
hey.
We
got
a
commitment
from
the
owner
too.
Here
we
go
so
whether
we
want
to
take
that
on
or
have
the
artists
do.
A
F
A
That's
that's
exactly
that's.
What's
before
is
that's
what
he's
bringing
before
us
you
know:
do
you
want
to
define
the
space
the
way
they're
recommending
it
based
on
the
meetings
and
discussions
and
I
think
generally
I?
Think
there's
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
anyone
I
think,
there's
a
consensus
to
do
so.
You.
F
Have
to,
and
and
in
in
past
mural
projects
that
I've
been
involved,
you
have
to
identify
the
space
first
for
the
artist.
That's
going
to
be
the
easier.
So
if
you
narrow
it
down
to,
let's
say
four
of
them
and
four
of
them
suggest
that
they
want
to
then
you
that
will
be
part
of
your
RFP
or
you
know.
When
you
go
or
your
solicitation
for
artists,
you
can
show
these
four
items
right
and
then
they
and
then
the
artist
gives
you
the
most.
L
A
Think
they're
there
thank
you
for
summarizing
it.
So
I'm
going
to
make
this
motion
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
the.
If
you
go
back
to
the
map,
we
accept
the
area
for
this
program
as
defined
in
the
map,
and
that
we
ask
our
Consultants
charge
our
Consultants
with
obtaining
approval
or
agreement
from
the
property
owners
within
those
smart
spaces
or
any
any
other
spaces
in
within
that
mapping
area
and
then,
after
that's
done,
come
back
to
the
board.
A
At
that
point,
the
board
would
then
initiated
solicitation
for
the
the
area,
the
spaces
that
it
deems
it
wants
to.
It
wants
to
proceed
with,
and
the
only
other
thing
that
I
would
add
to
the
motion
is
that
we
add
two
Arts
experts
to
the
that
that
committee
that
will
work
on
this
and
bring
back
recommendations
and
score
the
proposals.
A
K
J
K
A
A
Create
that
concept
of
what
should
be
we
put
on
a
wall
but
I
think
when
Once
the
solicitation
is
out.
We
talked
about
what
things
what
guides
we
would
tell
folks
that
would
be
interested
like
how
many
do
we
think
we
would
fund
like
it'd
be
interested?
Are
we
going
to
fund
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
mural?
Well,
most
of
us
would
say:
no.
We
want
to
fund
various
levels
of
murals
right
with
costs,
so
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
charging
and
I
don't
know
I'm,
not
an
arts
expert.
A
If
I
don't
know,
if
you
want
to
restrict
an
artist
to
certain
things
it
may
not
be,
it
may
be
something
that
you
don't
want
to
do
and
let
them
come
back
with.
I
mean
the
city
has
a
very
good
in
my
opinion
and
what
they've
used
before,
where
you
don't
have
anything,
that's
offensive
right
and
defensive.
Now,
it's
very
subjective,
so
all
of
these
things
I
think
need
to
be
part
of
that
how
we
craft
the
solicitation.
That's
thinking
you
know
in
terms
of
process,
but
I,
don't
know
for
an
artist
you
know.
A
K
A
A
H
H
H
H
A
A
A
A
Discussion
with
possible
action
is
the
next
item
11
related
to
making
street
parking
style
recommendations
to
the
City
of
Laredo
for
parking
spaces
around
the
Laredo
center
for
the
art
Square.
So
we've
discussed
this
before
and
you
all
agreed
that
we
would
come
back
with
an
item
that
would
make
it
official
for
us
to
send
it
to
the
city
manager
and
they
city,
council,
under
the
council
member,
so
there's
been
some
work
additional
work.
That's
been
done
to
show
us
to
get
us
to
this.
Drawing
appreciate
that
Edward
and
Rick
everybody
involved
Edward
go
ahead.
A
E
E
E
So
what
we?
What
we
did
here
is
we
kind
of
looked
at
so
first
thing
we
did
is
we
went
through
and
kind
of
investigated
the
four
four
blocks
again
right:
the
four
streets
I'm
going
to
start
here
on
the
North
side.
This
is
this
is
the
location
of
the
Plaza
theater
right
now,
so
here
what
you
see
in
red
and
you'll
see
red
mainly
on
the
on
the
Turning
corners.
E
What
you
see
in
red
is
currently
painted
no
parking
fire
lane,
and
so
those
are
areas
that
obviously
at
the
corner,
nobody
parks.
But
you
know
it
serves
two
purposes
from
what
we
we
discusses
with
the
fire
department
on
Friday.
When
we
met
you
know
it
serves
a
purpose.
Obviously
you
know,
Fire
doesn't
want
to
have
any
Vehicles
Park
in
there
or
attempting
to
park
there,
and,
secondly,
it
serves
as
a
you
know.
Traffic
Division
can
come
and
ticket
somebody.
E
If
somebody
does
park
there,
if
there
wasn't
anything
painted,
it
said
no
parking,
you'd
be
surprised.
People
would
try
to
park.
So
so
there's
we.
We
went
through
very
carefully
and
kind
of
noted
all
of
these
areas,
so
mainly
at
the
intersections
you'll
see
them
there
here
in
front
of
the
Plaza
theater,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
kind
of
an
island
bump
out
in
the
Plaza
theater.
That's
there.
It's
all
painted
no
parking
fire
lane.
E
You
do
have
some
fire
hydrants
I'll
kind
of
zoom
in
here
we've
got
them
noted,
there's
a
fire
hydrant
right
here,
just
adjacent
to
the
Plaza
theater.
So
the
curb
in
front
of
there
is
striped
red
you
can't
park.
We've
got
a
couple
of
loading
zone
areas
that
we've
denoted
here
in
yellow,
so
you've
got
a
loading
zone
adjacent
to
the
plaza
there's
a
loading
zone
here
on
the
South
Side.
So
this
is
the
Center
for
the
Arts
block.
E
There's
a
loading
zone
here
on
the
south
side
over
here
on
the
east
side
of
the
property.
This
is
kind
of
the
main
entrance
to
the
Center
for
the
Arts.
So
they've
got
a
little
loading
zone
area
that
you
can't
park
and
then
you've
got
some
police
parking
and
then
again
you
can
see
here,
for
whatever
reason
you
know
the
the
red
extends
past
the
past.
The
intersection
Corner
turn
around.
E
So
we've
noted
all
that
so
I
just
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
explain
that
a
little
bit
and
currently
what
you
have
is
you've
got
angle.
You've
got
parallel
parking
on
this
side
of
Flores
and
you've
got
parallel
parking
right
now
on
this
side
of
Hidalgo.
So
looking
at
our
analysis
of
the
whole
area,
we
believe
that
we
can
add
45
degree
angled
parking
on
this
side
of
Hidalgo
Street
and
in
doing
so
I'll
zoom
in
a
little
bit.
We
currently
have
eight
existing
parallel
parking
spaces.
E
There
are
seven
existing
parallel
parking
spaces
and
there's
actually
one
Ada
accessible
parallel
parking
space
right
over
here.
So
by
doing
angle
parking
we
can
get
13
total
spaces
which
would
be
12
parking.
So
we
go
from
7
to
12
regular
parking,
and
then
we
keep
the
188
space.
There
is
a
curb
right
here.
That's
cut
out
that's
at
grade
so
that
the
the
parallel
parking
can
currently
access
the
Laredo
Laredo
Center
for
the
Arts
block.
So
we
just
thought
it'd
be
ideal
just
to
keep
that
at
Ada
space
there.
E
E
Looking
on
here,
if
we
keep
the
parallel
spaces,
the
parallel
spaces
are
eight
feet
wide.
Typically,
so
you'd
have
an
eight
foot
wide
space,
you'd
have
almost
16
feet
of
aisle
driving
space
and
then
the
45
degree
angle
parking
space
would
require
of
a
perpendicular
distance
of
19
feet,
one
inch
just
about
so
this
16
foot
aisle
space.
E
You
know
we
went
back
and
I
went
back
through
and
did
some
research
on
angle,
parkings
and
kind
of
how
they're
done
and
a
lot
of
guidelines
kind
of
talk
about
15
feet
as
being
kind
of
what
they
call
a
normal
use.
Aisle
space
when
you
have
angled
parking
and
where
that
normal
use
aisle
space
comes
into
play,
is
I.
E
Guess
the
way
I
attribute
it
is:
do
you
have
a
high
turnover
piece
of
property,
like
maybe
an
HEB
or
a
Walmart
right,
so
people
are
coming
in
and
moving
out
coming
in
and
moving
out.
You
know
in
a
bunch
of
the
spaces
almost
all
day,
long
versus
you
know,
the
Other
Extreme
would
be
a
very
low
turnover
would
be.
You
have
Anglo
parking
at
a
business
right,
so
you
come
into
work
at
eight
o'clock.
E
Everybody
parks,
nobody
moves
all
day
right
and
then
at
five
o'clock
everybody
leaves
and
then
the
normal
would
be
kind
of
a
hybrid
in
between
you
know
where
you
have
people
that
make
Park,
maybe
an
hour
or
two
or
three
and
and
come
and
go
so
15
seems
to
be
the
ideal
aisle
space
that
kind
of
industry
standard
talks
about
or
normal
use,
so
we're
trying
to
respect
that
particular
space.
So
again,
here
we
have
16
feet
almost
16
feet
and
then
here
on
the
valuable
side,
it's
almost
just
the
same.
E
You
would
end
up
gaining
nine
spaces,
and
these
are
basically
the
only
two
sides
that
we
believe
that
that'll
work
and
as
as
you
can
see
here,
we've
kind
of
noted
the
existing
street
from
face
a
curve
to
face
a
curve
is
43
feet
right
now
over
on
the
Hidalgo
Street
side,
it's
almost
43
feet.
It's
about
42.9
feet
from
our
measurements,
but
you
get
to
the
Lincoln
side
and
Lincoln
is,
is,
is
narrower?
E
E
You
know
the
solid
waste
is
is
over
here
for
a
center
for
the
art,
so
you've
got
to
leave
that
open.
So
this
side,
you
see,
we
have
there's
one
space
here
and
there's
some
striping
and
then
two
spaces
and
you
have
a
loading
zone
and
then
two
spaces.
So
it's
kind
of
sporadic
I
think
it'd
be
hard
to
to
get,
and
then
you
come
to
the
east
side,
which
is,
and
it's
even
narrower,
St
Augustine
currently
is
34
or
about
34
feet
from
Curb
to
curb.
E
E
E
E
So
if
you
do
the
angle
spacing-
and
you
add
nine
spaces
where
you're
adding
some
additional
meters-
the
current
meters
don't
line
up.
The
current
meters
are
lined
up
for
parallel
parking,
so
they
may
not
line
up
for
the
angle
parking,
so
you
might
have
to
relocate
some
of
those
meters.
I,
don't
know
the
exact
cost
to
all
of
that.
B
A
Think
if,
if
there's
an
urgency
to
do
it,
that
way,
yes
I
think
that
would
that
would
be
one
way
to
do
it.
The
other
is
to
give
the
traffic
department
one
last
opportunity
to
to
you
know,
approve
it
or
disapprove
it
through
the
city
manager,
but
it's
really
I'm
going
to
lean
on
the
council
member.
You
know
if
she's
good
with
it,
and
she
feels
that
this
is
what
we
want
to
do.
I
mean
we're.
We've
vetted
this
here
three
times
you
know,
and
we
think
this
is
good
for
the
area.
F
A
B
A
End
it
here
too
not
so
long
ago
we
heard
the
traffic
department
come
and
tell
us
that
they
have
the
least
traffic
they've
ever
seen
downtown.
They
want
to
take
traffic
lights
down,
so
you
know
I
mean
we
were
all
we
were
here.
We
heard
that
so
I
don't
mean
to
you,
know
downplay
the
issue,
but
it's
that's.
We
heard
that
so
I
think
this
is
appropriate.
It'll
give
more
spaces
if
there's
tenants
at
the
Center
for
the
Arts
it'll
give
more
spaces
for
their
guests
that
are
coming
in
and
me
also
for
staff.
A
Yeah
and
I'm
sure
Edward
will
will
make
that
happen.
All
right.
It's
been
moved
in.
Second,
in
any
final
comments.
I'll
then
we'll
call
for
the
vote.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
of
the
item,
all
right,
all
right
against
not
hearing
any
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
not
hearing
any
against
all
his
favorite
vote.
Hi
hi
did
I.
Do
it
twice.
A
H
J
H
I
I
would
like
to
I
would
I
would
propose
that
we
start
maybe
Mr
chill
can
start,
including
the
because
someone's
going
to
need
to
manage
all
of
these
improvements.
It's
that
we
could
begin
to
start
reaching
out
to
the
business
improvement
district
to
I.
Think
there's
five
members
on
there
so
that
they
can
start
being
included
into
what's
happening
here.
I
know:
Dr
Weaver
works
with
them
and
Mr
Haynes
used
to
be
the
president
chair.
H
A
A
Yeah
all
right,
we'll
include
them
all
right.
The
last
item
here
is
discussion
with
possible
action
regarding
invoices
submitted
by
able
City,
Casey
and
KCI
Technologies
as
presented
those
are
annual
packets
who,
to
approved,
moved
and
seconded
for
approval.
Any
discussion
they're,
not
hearing
any
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye,
any
against,
not
emotion,
passes,
motion
to
adjourn
it's
417..
Is
there
a
second?
It's
been
moved
seconded.
H
A
We
didn't
take
any
action
on
that
item
because
we
didn't
hear
back
get
from
the
part
from
the
procurement
Department.
So
we
move
through
that
item.
We
didn't
do
anything
with
it
moved
and
seconded
to
adjourn
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
aye,
any
against.
That
motion
passes
we're
adjourned,
4
18..
Thank
you
very
much.
Everybody.
Thank
you.
Chief
for
staying
through
the
meeting
everybody
miss
Dr,
Devon,
Mr
Haynes.