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Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No 1 Board of Directors 050923
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A
A
B
We
only
have
the
confirmation
on
on
for
item
nine
I
did
include
it
in
the
email.
I
didn't
include
them
in
a
packet,
but
there
was
no
action,
so
I
just
confirmed
and
put
no
action
on
the
item
and
those
are
in
your
emails.
E
A
E
A
Of
the
approved
minutes
for
the
April
11th
moved
by
Mr
castillion.
Is
there
a
second
Ed
buying
Mr
Martinez,
any
discussion
there
being
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
against
not
motion
passes.
Thank
you
very
much
item.
Five
is
Citizens.
Comets
citizens
are
required
to
fill
out
a
witness
card
no
later
than
2
45.
A
still
time
and
can
be
found
here
at
the
1110
Houston
city
hall.
Comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker.
No
more
than
three
persons
will
be
allowed
to
speak
on
any
side
of
the
issue.
Speakers
may
not
pass
their
minutes
to
another
speaker.
Comments
should
be
relevant
to
City
business
and
delivered
in
a
professional
manner.
All
derogatory
remarks
will
be
permitted
and
we
do
have
a
signed
speaker,
Mr
Garcia.
A
You
want
to
come
up.
Welcome,
sir
hello.
D
D
Two
items
that
I
kind
of
just
wanted
to
talk
about
the
primary
one
is
an
issue
that
that
have
that
I've
taken
into
basically
action
because
I've
seen
right
now
with
the
turf
Wards,
you
know
furtherance
of
a
lot
of
the
improvements
in
downtown
and
one
of
the
key
elements
of
it
being
residential
Redevelopment
in
the
downtown
mean
meaning
multi-family
apartment
units
or
housing.
Whatever
that
case
may
be,
whether
it's
public
or
private,
that's
being
constructed
out
there.
D
That's
not
even
supposed
to
be
applied
to
to
those
units
or
to
those
building
projects
is
adding
a
further
financial
difficulty
for
them
being
implemented
and
with
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
right
now
in
our
community.
Just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that
and
furtherance
of
the
the
this
board's.
You
know
main
tackle
downtown,
which
is
basically,
you
know,
trying
to
revive
it
and
by
Reviving
it.
D
You
know,
bringing
that
multi-family
aspect
back
I
have
had
some
discussions
initially
and
I
have
protested
for
for
for
a
hearing
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
the
misapplication
and
misinterpretation
of
the
of
the
ordinance
by
the
parks,
development
by
the
parks
department
and
just
looking
to
just
advise
you.
So
if
there's
any
interest
out
there,
especially
since
the
sports,
one
of
its
main
parties
to
bring
up
downtown
the
residential
component
is
one
of
the
key
components
and,
and
it
doesn't
exempt
public
or
private
from
from
that
fee.
D
So
like,
for
example,
I
know
that
the
city's
got
some
current
housing
projects
that
were
initiated
sometime
back
and
Miss.
Tina
Martinez
is
initially
fulfilling
those
those
projects
and
you
know
getting
them
done,
but
that
extra
cost
to
those
units
and
making
them
a
little
bit
more
costlier
always
affects
the
bottom
line.
D
They're
talking,
it's
called
the
the
Parkland
dedication
fee.
It
was
initially
meant
in
2008.
D
It
was
brought
up
to
basically
cover
a
loophole
that
basically,
when
a
developer
brings
a
subdivided
proper,
bringing
the
development
in
or
a
subdivision
for
development.
You
have
properties
that
come
in
on
the
resident
residential
component,
so
there's
a
formula
based
formula
based
on
the
number
of
housing
units
and
that's
a
fee
that
the
developer
has
to
pay,
which
there's
no
question
about
that.
Basically,
the
loophole
that
would
come
into
play
was
basically
when
the
development
comes
in.
D
D
Basically,
when
you
start
building-
and
you
change
the
zoning
from
commercial
to
multi-family,
now
you're
affecting
the
the
heads
in
the
area
or
the
the
amount
of
people
in
the
area,
so
that
that
fee
was
developed
to
accommodate
that
extra
number
of
people
in
that
area
to
provide
for
Park
improvements,
which
is
adequate
because
you
don't
know
what
to
start
that
they
were
going
to
build
it.
D
So
that
was
to
cover
that
not
necessarily
to
be
applied
in
the
lots
of
record
already
Zone
already
planted
subdivisions
or
not
subdivisions,
but
basically
existing
neighborhoods.
What
was
the
name
of
the
ordinance
Parkland
dedication,
Markland
and
it
was
initiated
in
2008.
F
D
Of
concern
to
me,
and
especially
anybody
building
apartment
units
in
the
inner
city,
I,
know
Mr
salio
that
we,
when
the
fast
ones,
work
together
the
key
elements
of
trying
to
make
it
more
affordable
and
now
trying
to
add
this
feat
to
it.
You
know
just
to
say
that
you
want
money
for
Parks,
which
is
great,
but
you
know
when
you're
affecting
affordable
housing.
D
Do
you
want
affordable
housing
or
do
you
want
to
park
so
just
wanted
to
address
that
with
the
board
and
then
the
second
item,
real
quick
is
basically
the
business
development,
District,
I,
I,
hope,
there's
a
push
for
that.
D
I
think
it
would
help
in
solving
a
lot
of
these
little
issues
that
develop
whether
it's
the
the
higher
assessment
values
that
are
currently
going
and
implemented
in
the
downtown
and
in
the
city
as
a
whole
or
like,
for
example,
right
now
addressing
literal
problems
like
this,
that
you
know
could
address
for
a
whole
number
of
property
owners
downtown.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Guys
thank.
A
All
right,
so,
at
moving
on
to
item
six
presentation
items,
there's
two
items:
no
items,
no
action
to
be
taken
on
either
of
these
items,
discussion
on
any
downtown,
related
effort
or
activity
or
board
members
interest
or
concern
is
there?
Is
there
any
topics
that
the
board
wants
to
discuss
openly
on
this
item?.
A
And
two
I
I
do
agree.
You
actually,
with
both
items.
I
didn't
realize
a
park
like
dedication,
ordinance
was
being
implemented
in
the
inner
city,
so
that's
striking.
We
do
need
more
information
on
that.
So
hopefully,
if
you
have
it,
you
can
share
it.
That
would
be
great
and,
of
course,
with
the
business
district
I
think
that
needs
to
be
formulated.
We've
talked
about
having
small
successes
and
bringing
people
creating
buy-in.
A
G
Well,
I
I
wanted
to
thank
Mr
Garcia
for
coming,
but
I
also
wanted
to
illustrate
how
difficult
Mr
Garcia
is
very
familiar
with
the
workings
of
the
city
and
how
to
get
things
done
and
that
he's
having
such
a
a
situation
with
something
that
he's
labels
as
misinterpretation
of
an
ordinance.
G
G
So
the
lack
of
of
an
advocacy
group
for
the
Redevelopment
of
downtown
is
is
glaring
yeah,
and
so
the
support
for
the
Management
District,
the
business
district
is,
is
imperative,
and
and
thank
you
for
the
idea
for
the
of
the
round
table
again.
That
is
needs
to
happen
right,
yeah.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
going
to
move
on.
We
do
have
administrative
updates
that
we're
trying
to
structure
in
administrative
status,
update
on
ongoing
work
items,
including
listed
the
items
listed
below
so
I
kind
of
formulated
this
agenda
Rick.
To
give
us
a
little
bit
of
structure,
doesn't
have
to
look
like
that
in
the
future.
But
you
know
you
all
can
control
how
that
gets
delivered.
H
Good
afternoon,
chairman
members
of
the
board,
Rick
Solis,
with
able
City
also
joined
by
Edward
Charles,
with
KCI
Technologies,
so
kind
of
a
little
presentation
here
to
go
over
these
items,
but
these
items
sort
of
spawned
some
other
items
that
are
also
on
the
agenda,
so
we'll
sort
of
take
them
as
they
come,
but
just
a
real
brief
update
on
these
onboarding
work
items
that
that
we
listed
a
sort
of
re-populated
the
list
a
little
bit
first
off
on
the
import,
the
tourist
website.
H
We
actually
looked
at
that
it's
ready
to
go.
We
have
a
draft
I
think
there's
some
questions
about
how
to
host
it.
Now
and
I,
don't
know
I!
Guess
we
can
sort
of
contact
you
guys
to
see
if
there's
something
that.
F
H
The
city
can
host
it
or
the
tourists
I
think
it's
like
a
a
fee.
You
know
there's
a
fee
to
hosted.
Obviously,
if
we're
going
to
host
it
on
our
own
I
think
we
for
our
for
what
we
for
our
purposes,
I
think
it
was
going
to
be
like
23
a
year
or
something
minor
like
that.
H
We
can
discuss
how
we
want
to
handle
that,
whether
we
do
it
as
reimbursable
back
to
the
tours
through
us
or
if
we
get
the
city
to
host
it
I
think
that's,
that's
the
only
missing
piece
that
we're
missing
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
that
to
the
table.
Obviously,
there's
no
action
can
be
taken,
but
I
just
wanted
to
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
you
guys
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
done
here
in
the
next
week
or
so,
you've.
H
Yes,
yes
and
I'll
resend
out
again
just
so,
maybe
maybe
you
weren't
on
the
board
Mr
Heather
before
so
we'll
send
that
out
again
to
make
sure
that
everybody's,
it's
very
simple
streamlined.
You
know
we
didn't
want
to.
We
just
try
to
make
it
as
simple
as
and
clear
as
possible.
I
I
Web
server
website
server
like
throughout
so
I
think
that
might
be
a
request
that
that
the
church
wants
needs
to
make
to
the
city
again
of
or
if
you,
if
you
decide
on
just
hosting
it
on
your
own
I
mean
there
might
be
some
funding
to
be
able
to
pay
for
that
on
your
own.
If
you
link
it
to
the
city,
I
know
there
was
discussion
on.
Maybe
it
would
be
not
its
own
landing
page,
but
maybe
through
the
planning
department
or
through
some
other
department.
That
was
never
I,
guess
solidified.
A
I
think
we
can
do
both
have
our
own
address
and
then
suddenly
get
through
the
planning
department
as
well,
and
then
you
you
meet
both
ends
and
I.
Think
underlaying
under
a
department
could
get
difficult
to
reach.
I.
Think
having
its
own
address
would
that's
my
opinion,
would
would
be
more
accessible
and
well.
H
A
H
A
H
Was
the
only
last
little
missing
tea
that
we
wanted
to
cross
right?
So
we'll
do
that
and
as
soon
as
it's
live,
we'll
send
everybody
a
link
and
they
can
start
looking
at
it
and
then
we'll
coordinate
to
get
it
linked
from
the
city's
web
page
as
well,
and.
A
G
H
It
will
be
live
the
next
update
on
the
mural
program.
I,
don't
really
have
an
update
there.
I
know
there
was
conversations
with
the
Arts
committee,
but
I
don't
have
an
update
at
this
time.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
talked
to
anyone.
Why.
A
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
the
council
member
and
in
the
spirit
of
the
60
days
that
we
gave
that
to
come
back
if
it
doesn't
reach
that
I
think
we're
going
to
be
back
to
on
doing
that
on
our
own
and
it's
spearheading
that
quickly.
A
We
also
talked
about
storefront
raps,
so
to
speak,
I,
don't
know
the
exact
term,
but
there's
you
know
the
window
of
people
that
want
to
so
we
would
be
rolled
under
that,
unlike
what
we
heard
here,
that
last
meeting,
that
we
should
work
with
the
art
with
the
Arts
group
and
that
they
would
be
ready.
H
Okay,
well
we'll
we'll
certainly
reach
out
again
and
and
I'll
get
with
Viviana
when
I
see
her
next
and
we'll
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
that
process
going
on
our
end
to
push
it
along
the
next
item
on
the
way
finding
a
monument
markers
I
did
talk
with
Edward
this
morning,
they're
looking
to
survey
the
property
by
Webb,
County
Heritage,
the
other
Monument
sign
so
they're,
going
to
look
to
survey
that
area
so
that
we
can
start
that
process
of
getting
those
drawings
done.
H
So
that's
all
the
other
wayfinding
stuff.
We
need
to
reconvene
the
committee
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
so
we'll
have
a
more
a
thorough
update
at
the
next
meeting.
A
A
They
asked
for
a
document,
so
Ms
Martinez
sent
me
a
document
that
I
kind
of
carved
out
I
need
to
send
it
to
the
board
for
them
to
look
at
and
then
after
that.
We,
if
you
all,
can
set
up
some
meetings,
so
we
can
go
back
to
them
to
the
technical
team,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
be
the
County
engineer.
Yeah.
H
A
Work
through
him
and
kind
of
work
through
finishing
up
that
agreement.
This
was
before
the
new
commissioner
came
in.
So
it's
it's
been,
it's
been
quite
a
while
okay,
but
if
you
can
put
that
as
a
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
work
towards
that
with
me,
I'll
send
I,
know
I
did
the
draft
of
the
document
and
I
waited
for
the
new
commissioner
to
go
in
and
I
sat
on
it.
J
A
I'll,
send
you
the
they're
meeting
information
when
they
approve
that
item.
So
so,
if
they
ask
you
and-
and
we
left,
we
left
it
subject
to
some
sort
of
agreement
with
them.
So
I'll
circulate
that
to
everyone.
J
H
Better
lighting,
yes
with
better
lighting.
Yes,
the
next
item,
the
Plaza's
parking
alternative
layout,
Edward
and
I
met
last
week
to
talk
about
this.
A
little
bit
further.
I
think
the
plan
that
we
have
works.
E
Last
year,
prior
to
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
September
30th,
the
city
authorized
transfer
of
eighty
thousand
dollar
stores
this
project.
This
is
partial
funding
for
the
project
itself,
how
much
80
000.
so
the
minutes
already
set
up
so.
A
H
H
With
regards
to
the
alternative
layout
for
the
parking
again
like
I
mentioned,
it's
a
question
of
who
can
execute
this
design?
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
comments.
J
Yeah
I
mean
the
the
drawing
that
was
put
together,
and
the
concept
that
we
presented
at
a
meeting
a
few
few
meetings
ago
may
be
good
enough
just
to
work
off
of
for
the
traffic
department
or
maybe
public
works,
or
one
of
the
other
department
stores
going
to
go
out
there
and
do
the
restricting
we
just
need
to
determine.
If
there's
additional,
do
we
need
to
complete
a
plan
set?
Is
this
something
that
the
city
decides?
A
J
Sir,
so
that's
part
of
the
question
I
guess
you
know
if
if
we
can
determine
that,
if
traffic
department
or
one
of
the
city
departments
is
okay,
we're
moving
forward
with
the
exhibit
that's
been
presented,
then
there
wouldn't
be
any
additional
work
for
us
and
no
additional
scope.
But
if
somebody
decides
that
we
need
to
put
together,
you
know
a
set
of
construction
plans
or
something.
Well,
then
yeah
I'll
have
to
put
a
scope
together
for
that.
G
J
Think
with
the
traffic
department,
because
if
you
do
re-stripe,
then
how
that's
addressed
with
the
parking
meter
division
right
of
traffic-
that's
gonna
have
to
be
addressed.
I
Also,
can
I
suggest
that
maybe
a
letter
from
the
board
to
the
city
manager
addressing
this
this
question
of,
will
the
city
go
move
forward
because
very
it's
the
board
suggesting
this
change
so
on.
You
know
on
city
right
away,
so
the
board
can
request
officially
requested
from
the
city
manager,
and
at
that
time
the
city
manager
will
address
the
church,
the
the
traffic
department
and
direct
them
to
move
forward
and
not
move
forward.
G
The
to
be
because
all
the
people
in
this
room
are
capable,
but
nobody
here
that
I
can
see
is
Instagram,
is
actually
running
a
business
downtown
and
that
that
brings
a
different
set
of
ideas
to
the
table.
So
in
the
Viva
Laredo
comprehensive
plan,
the
suggestion
was
the
requirement.
The
suggestion
was
to
that
the
parking
Department,
the
traffic
department
should
have
a
traffic
committee,
especially
connected
to
the
central
business
district,
and
that
is
yet
to
be
created
so
before
people
come
and
are
upset
about.
A
F
A
Iglesias
and
I
used
to
attend
regularly
and
make
comments,
and
we
they
took
our
input,
but
we
weren't
made
members
of
that
committee.
So
I
don't
again.
This
is
several
years
ago
recovered.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
create
a
committee,
but
I
do
agree
that
people
need
to
be
informed
that
changes
are
going
to
impact
their
businesses
for.
H
Sure
I
do
know
that
that
committee
is
their
next
meeting,
is
June
6th
I
think.
A
H
H
Yesterday
on
May
the
4th,
we
met
with
mpo
staff
to
go
over
the
parameters
of
the
Grant,
and
then
yesterday
we
met
with
TxDOT
to
actually
get
some
questions
answered
as
far
as
how
we
want
to
formulate
our
application
for
this
money
just
to
kind
of
give
everybody
an
update
or
a
refresher
of
where
we
were
at
this
is
what
this
is,
the
the
exhibit
that
was
included
in
in
the
document
that
we
presented
to
them.
That
shows
the
areas
alongside
us
that
we
wanted
to
Target
I.
H
Think
the
actual
scope
of
work
would
be
from
Water
Street
all
the
way
up
through.
So
these
three
blocks
would
be
part
of
the.
What
we're
calling
phase
two
scope
of
work
I
think
we
had
a
very
productive
meeting
yesterday.
It
did
generate
some
questions
that
were
going
to
have
to
address.
I
know
that
Grace
is
here
from
planning
and
Edward
can
also
answer
some
questions.
I
do
as
far
as
what
are
the
next
steps
that
we
need
to
take
for
that.
H
Obviously,
we
need
to
confirm
the
extent
of
that
phase,
two
scope
of
work,
which
I
think
we've
already
done.
It's
those
three
blocks.
Now
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
the
wording
correct
on
how
we
want
that
to
be
in
the
contract
with
them.
The
agreement
apparently
they're
very
particular
about
what
we,
what
we,
how
we
write
it
and
what
we
commit
to
and
and
they're
going
to
hold
us
to
it.
So
we
just
want
to
be
very,
very
specific.
H
Once
that's
done,
Edward
will
need
to
present
a
design
proposal
for
that
scope
of
work,
because
that's
phase
two
for
him,
which
is,
can
happen
in
conjunction
with
all
this
other
stuff.
The
after
that
there
will
be
a
I
think
we're
in
the
process
of
completing
this
project
and
information
formed
to
be
able
to
obtain
a
project
number
from
Tech
stock,
and
then
they
would
prepare
I
guess
the
city
of
Marina
would
prepare
this
pre-advance
funding
agreement.
H
Once
all
that
happens,
then
we
would
come
back
to
the
tours
to
adopt
a
resolution
to
basically
approve
the
agreement
between
the
tourists
and
tech
stocks.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
next
steps.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
it.
J
If
I,
if
I,
can
add
to
that
last
one,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
as
that
as
that
free
AFA,
the
advanced
funding
agreement
textile
calls
it
an
AFA.
So
as
that
free
AFA
comes
back
from
TxDOT
to
the
city,
I
guess
it
would
come
to
the
tours
board.
J
But
formerly
the
City
of
Laredo
Council
will
have
to
adopt
a
resolution
and
then,
once
that
resolution
is
adopted,
what
we
were
understanding
with
from
TxDOT
yesterday
was
that
you'll
have
that
resolution
and
then
the
advanced
funding
agreement
goes
and
that
that
kind
of
formulates
the
formal
agreement
to
be
signed
by
all
parties
TxDOT
and
the
City
so
yeah.
It's
maybe.
A
Right,
Council,
right
and
I
see
Mr
Chavez
nodding
in
agreement,
so
Rick
went
through
that
in
so
when
he
was
saying
that
they're,
very
particular
detailed
with
what
I'm
reading
from
it
so
I
was
at
that
meeting
yesterday
or
that
was
yesterday.
A
Yes,
yesterday,
anything
that
we
say
any
section
that
we
say
we're
going
to
complete,
we
need
to
complete
it,
meaning
that
if
you
find
obstacles
you
gotta
pay
for
for
solving
those
obstacles,
and-
and
so
they
make
it
a
point
to
make
sure
that
you
know
if
it's
if
it
needs
it
needs
to
meet
Ada.
If
you
face
an
impediment,
you're
going
to
have
to
clear
it
and
fix
it
rebuild
it
whatever
you
need
to
do
so.
A
The
feasibility
part
of
this
with
our
Consultants
needs
to
be
very
thorough,
so
that
we
don't
miss
anything
that
could
potentially
cost
us
a
lot
of
money
in
trying
to
comply
with
with
the
agreement.
So
texasat
made
it
very
clear:
it's
a
million
dollars
that
it's
allocated,
that's
what
we're
going
to
go
back
to
them
for
they.
If
we
can
get
this
all
done
by
September
we're
looking
at
a
reduced
match,
we
pledge
20
now
we're
looking
at
5.8.
H
A
The
one
thing
they
did
ask
us
to
is
to
not
be
over
and
overly
ambitious
on
time
frame,
because
it's
we
want
to
represent
that
we're
actually
performing
well
and
not
asking
for
extensions
which
I
agree
with,
and
so
so
when
we
come
back
with
this
to
the
board,
you
will
see
a
letting
date
for
the
project,
that's
pretty
pretty
forward
or
maybe
even
be
in
2025,
but
what
TxDOT
has
indicated
to
us
if
we're
ready
to
go
earlier
at
that
time
that
we're
ready
to
go,
we
submit
plans
to
them
and
Noble
was
ahead
with
with
the
project,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
not
the
record.
A
So
everybody
understands
there's
austerity
that-
and
the
resolution
probably
needs
to
begin
here.
So
everybody
on
this
board
understands
that
commitment,
so
I
hope
that's
clear
to
the
board.
So
in
terms
of
you
can't
say:
well,
we
can't
do
an
obstacle
and
we
weren't
able
to
complete
it.
It
would
require
you
giving
the
money
back
or
taking
care
of
that
issue.
That's
basically
what
we
do
over
here.
A
H
One
thing
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
with
regards
to
phase
one
phase
two,
so
we
have
this:
the
Four
Corners
at
Saragosa
and
Salina
Street
that
are
I,
think
we
have
three
corners
right
in
phase
one.
We
have
three
quarters
of
paper.
H
Essentially,
what
we're
doing
now
is
taking
that
scope
out
of
phase
one
so
that
funding
whatever
money
you
guys
are
going
to
spend
on
that
can
go
back
into
the
rest
of
phase
one
for
something
else
or
whatever,
because
we'll
be
doing
this
with
phase
with
the
what
I'm
calling
the
phase
two,
the
the
grant
money
essentially
I,
do
know
those
conversations
you
know.
H
Obviously,
since
we're
doing
this
with
with
the
federal
funding,
there's
a
lot
more
kind
of
hopes,
we
got
to
jump
through
right,
so
environmental
clearances
serving
like
there's
a
bunch
of
extra
stuff
that
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
that.
We
didn't
have
to
do
as
part
of
phase
one
or
we're
just
dealing
with
local
with
with
your
the
tourist
money,
essentially
so
so,
while
that
lighting
date
will
get
pushed
out
further,
we
probably
need
that
extra
time
anyway.
H
Just
to
make
sure
that
we
get
everything
and
because
they
won't
give
us
the
money,
unless
we
do
it
just
exactly
the
way
they
they
already
gave
us
the
checklist.
It's
like
10
pages
right
so
we'll
make
sure
that
we
follow
it
to
the
team,
so
I
think
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
other
comments.
H
Exactly
because
we
do
want
this
just
completes
all
the
way
to
torvideo,
but
we
would
like
to
extend
that.
Like
you
know,
we
want
to
do
from
Farragut
to
Victoria
too.
You
know
I
think
all
that's
important
to
Encompass
in
this
project.
H
We
felt
like
when
we
were
walking
it
that
that
was
actually
in
pretty
decent
shape.
The
sidewalks
were
fairly
wide
and
walkable.
You
can
certainly
analyze
it
from
a
standpoint
of
maybe
adding
trees
or
lighting
or
those
kinds
of
things
to
make
everything
look
consistent,
so
that's
kind
of
why
we
targeted
those
areas.
It.
G
I
would
just
like
to
comment
on
the
savings
connected
to
this
to
these
monies,
these
text
out
Monies
the
savings
on
those
three
blocks
on
those
three
corners.
Yes,
potentially
maybe
we
could,
if
we
have
some
of
that
money,
to
do
something
on
well
with
the
overhead
utility
problems
and
also
the
the
south
side
of
the
street
and
I
continue
to
to
repeat
that,
because
there
are
three
anchors
that
are
actually
working
and
producing
in
downtown
Laredo.
There's
a
lot
of
empty
vacant
stuff,
that's
not
working,
but
along
Saragosa.
F
G
La
Posada,
and
there
is
the
outlet,
mall
and-
and
this
committee
began,
to
improve
the
walkable
experience
between
those
three
anchor
working
tenants
and
well
anyway.
What
you
know
we
have
that
if
we
get
that
savings,
maybe
we
can
do
something.
I
know
it's
a
very
complex
issue,
Edward
contested
and.
J
H
I'm
actually
yeah,
we
haven't
updated
on
one
of
the
action
items
on
the
Utility.
H
Know
well
because
it's
part
of
the
action
action
item.
So
if
we
talk
about
it,
then
the
last
thing
on
the
list
I
just
wanted
to
point
out,
so
the
development
of
competitive
procurement
method
instruments
for
upcoming
solicitation.
That
was
actually
one
of
the
last
topics
that
we
talked
about
with
TxDOT
they're,
very
particular
about
how
you
let
these
projects
out
in
terms
of
the
procurement
method.
Essentially,
they
prefer
hard
bid.
H
It's
like
you,
give
everybody
an
opportunity
and
they,
whatever
the
whoever's,
the
lowest
qualified
bidder,
is
that's
who
you
go
with.
They
did
explain
to
us
that
there
is
a
way
to
qualify
the
bidders
ahead
of
time,
but
you
need
a
lot
of
time
to
do
that,
because
you
got
to
give
everybody
Apple
time,
there's
a
certification
that
they
need
or
whatever
you
know.
You
can't
just
say.
Well,
you
have
three
weeks
to
get
it
done.
H
You
know,
but
you
know
really,
that
it
would
take
six
months
to
get
that
certification
or
something
that
effect
you
know
so
we'll
have
to
talk
about
it
today,
but
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
that
that
as
we
move
forward
with
this
process,
if
that's
something
that
the
board
chooses
to
do,
we
probably
need
to
talk
about
it
sooner
than
later.
So.
A
So
can
I
expand
this
real
quick
for
the
board,
so
what
that
means
is
instead
of
doing
just
a
straight
bit,
you
would
have
a
separate
phase
that
precursor
face
where
you
would
do
a
pre-qualification
process
that
so
that
you
don't
involve
in
the
bidding
process.
You
don't
involve
qualifying
them
on
experience
or
anything
else.
You
should
have
done
that
on
the
pre-qualifications
right
and
that's
just
to
weed
out
folks
that
maybe
shouldn't
be
bidding
based
on
on
qualifications,
so,
but
they
made
it
very
clear.
It
can't
be
part
of
the
same
bidding
process.
H
Now,
with
phase
one
I
think
since
it's
through
the
city,
we
have
whatever
leeway
the
city
allows
to
to
get
this
project.
Mr.
A
H
A
And
the
in
the
in
the
action
line
where
you
we're
going
to
be
talking
timeline
because
I
know
Edward
and
I
visited
about.
You
know
where
we
are
in
terms
of
this
committing
and.
A
If
not,
then
we'll
move
on
to
board
Vice
chairperson
election
nomination
and
election
of
board
Vice
chairperson,
so
the
the
ordinance
that
created
the
terse
allows
for
this
I
think
it's
it's
a
healthy
thing
to
have,
and
I
would
like
to
open
up
that
opportunity
to
to
nominate
a
vice
chairperson
for
the
for
this
board.
C
A
A
Thank
you,
sir
and
I.
Do
try
my
best
to
be
here.
It
does
happen
on
occasion
that
I
can't
but
I
appreciate
you.
Stepping
up
and
I
know
that
you
you'll
do
a
great
job
as
Vice
chair.
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
move
ahead
to
action,
items,
update
and
discussion
with
possible
acts
related
to
the
implementation
of
the
terms
number
one
mural
program
and
any
matters
incident
there
too.
I
didn't
know.
If
we
were
going
to
be
bringing
back
any
action
on
this,
so
I
left
it
there.
A
It
doesn't
seem
that
we
have
any
additional
items
to
discuss
there.
So
no,
unless
the
board
wants
to
discuss
it
further,
but
I
think
we're
good
item.
10
then,
would
be
update,
presentation,
discussion
with
possible
action
related
to
the
test
number
one.
Ongoing
Improvement
design
work
and
coordination
with
the
City
of
Laredo
Department,
says,
may
be
required
or
requested
by
the
design
teams
standing
the
standing
item
that
we
have
for
our
Consultants,
but
I
added
the
coordination.
I
know
some
of
the
board
may
want
to
be
updated.
J
Okay,
so
we
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
update
of
some
of
the
meetings
that
we've
attended
in
the
last
I
guess
since
the
last
meeting.
J
So
right
after
our
last
meeting
in
April,
we
attended
a
meeting,
a
review
meeting
with
the
city
manager
and
councilwoman
cigarroa
and
the
department
heads
and
at
that
meeting
it
was
just
kind
of
a
meeting
that
got
us
all
together
and
we
essentially
presented
the
plans
that
we
had
and
which
they
they
had
seen,
and
we
just
kind
of
talked
out
different
topics,
different
issues
or
different
comments
from
the
from
the
Departments.
J
So
you
know
just
a
couple
of
notes
here
that
I'll
kind
of
run
through
we,
the
with
in
relation
to
the
utilities
department,
the
utilities
director
was
there.
He
says
that
they're
currently
working
on
upgrades
to
Water
and
Sewer
on
several
of
the
downtown
blocks,
and
he
really
just
asked
us
if
we
could
provide
a
phasing
for
this
project
and
he
will
coordinate
with
his
staff
as
far
as
doing
those
upgrades
so
that
he's
ahead
of
us.
So
his
idea
is,
you
know
which
I
thought
was.
A
good
idea
is
they'll.
J
You
know
we
tell
them
we're
going
to
work
on
this
block
first
and
then
this
block
second
he'll,
get
to
the
first
block.
Do
his
upgrades
before
we
start
construction
most
of
his
upgrades
seem
to
be
underground,
where
they're
kind
of
sleeving
through
some
of
the
some
of
the
mains
and
then
maybe
doing
some
service
upgrades
from
what
I
had
understood.
So
he
would
get
ahead
of
us
construction
wise
before
we
did
that
work.
So,
therefore,
when
we
do
our
surface
work,
his
underground
work
would
be
done
and
out
of
the
way.
J
So
we
just
need
to
coordinate
that
with
him
as
we
get
to
that
stage
include
water
lining
that
Piper.
He
said
water
and
sanitary
sewer
from
what
I
I
had
understood.
Yes,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
every
block
is
going
to
have
water
and
sewer
we
didn't
at
that
meeting.
We
didn't
discuss
the
finite
details
of
what
his
design
team
his
in-house
design
team
is
working
on.
Did.
A
J
J
That's
I
mean
maybe
we
could
talk
about
them
coming
back
and
doing
that
or
doing
construction
doing
that.
That
might
be
a
coordination
effort
that
we
would
have
to
take
on
between
his
department
and
the
contractor.
J
Most
projects
like
this
in
my
experience
is
we
put
it
in
for
the
contractor
and
the
contractor
puts
a
usually
a
small
little
budget
to
do
it
and
they
just
you
know
as
they're
redoing,
the
concrete
for
the
sidewalk
they'll
just
take
that
meter
box
or
that
manhole
just
adjust
it
and
then
finish
it
to
the
final
grade
so,
but
that
was
that
was
the
update
we
had
from
or
the
comments
that
we
had
from
utilities.
G
Had
a
group
of
children
with
me
downtown
last
week
and
we
were
walking
down
Zaragoza
close
to
Flores
Street
and
they
got
the
giggles
because
they
wanted
to
know
why
it
smelled
like
sewer
and
I.
Didn't
know
what
to
tell.
J
If
you
had
and
I
say
that
kind
of
leaving
flexibility
to
the
city
or
the
downtown,
if
there's
a
certain
block
that
needs
to
stay
open
and
they
need
to
jump
to
another
block
out
of
sequence
during
construction,
then
it
can
be
done
whether
you
have
a
festival
or
something
down
a
particular
block
and
timing
right
timing
of
the
year
when
construction
starts,
but
he
just
that
that
was
a
directive
that
we
got
from
him,
which
is
simple
enough.
If
we
need
to
meet
with
him
further.
J
If
you
ask
us
to,
then
you
know
we,
we
can
talk
about
some
further
details,
but
again
his
his
discussion
with
us
was.
They
were
already
addressing
Water
and
Sewer
upgrades
in
the
downtown
area
and
they're
currently
working
on
that
with
his
in-house
design
team,
and
he
just
wanted
to
know
what
order
we
were
going
to
go
in
and
if
and
if
they're
working
on
one
of
those
blocks,
then
they
would
be
ahead
of
us
before
we
started
our
surface
Construction.
That
was
that
was
a
discussion.
A
And
you,
you
can
certainly
invite
him
for
a
tour.
I
joined
you
if,
if
he,
if
you
get
him
to
to
come
downtown,
the
Arturo
Garcia.
J
Okay,
we,
we
also
had
some
comments
from
the
fire
department,
so
fire
department
was
in
the
meeting
and
spoke
to
them.
You
know
they.
They
certainly
had
a
concern
about.
You
know
space
and
having
their
fire
trucks
being
able
to
drive
down
certain
streets
there
and
they
had
requested
at
that
meeting.
Excuse
me
at
that
meeting
they
had
requested.
Maybe
we
just
conduct
a
field
visit
so
that
they
can
conduct
essentially
a
test
run
with
their
aerial
truck.
J
So
the
discussion
at
our
meeting
with
the
city
manager
and
the
councilwoman
was
that
they
they
have
to
have
an
aerial
ladder
truck
in
the
downtown
area.
So
we
need
to
be
able
to
account
for
that.
So
we
followed
up
with
another
meeting
which
I'll
get
to.
I
J
You'll
see
that
there's
a
follow-up
meeting
on
on
our
on
our
slide
here,
where
we
did
meet
with
the
fire
department.
But
that
was
a
discussion
at
the
meeting.
They
wanted
to
do
a
a
test
run
on
etor
Vida
Street,
which
the
blocks
of
Ito
Vida,
Street,
Salinas
and
convent
in
that
area.
Kind
of
already
have
the
the
narrower
streets
with
the
bump
outs
and
the
parking.
So
you
see
there
that
we
I'll
I'll
come
back
to
what
we
saw
at
that
meeting,
but
we
did
have
that
meeting.
J
Department
again
traffic
department
had
commented.
They
had
already
provided
US
Written
comments
before
the
meeting
with
the
the
city
manager
and
the
city
councilwoman,
but
he
did
just
iterate
again
that
he
is
hoping
or
he's.
His
request
is
that
we
consider
posing
off
pedestrian
Crossing
on
the
north
side
and
convent
intersection.
J
His
discussion
there
was
that
currently
at
the
Saragosa
Convent
intersection,
there's
three
phases
to
the
traffic
signal.
So
one
phase
moves
traffic
on
Saragosa,
one
phase
moves
traffic
north
on
Convent
and
the
third
phase
is
simply
just
to
have
pedestrians
cross
on
the
north
side
of
convent.
So
he
is,
his
request
to
us
was
to
have
the
the
pedestrians
cross
only
on
the
south
side
of
Convent
in
Santa
Rosa,
and
in
doing
so
he
could
improve
the
traffic
signal
phasing.
J
So
there
was
some
back
and
forth
on
that
discussion
and
and
part
of
that
back
and
forth.
There
was
I,
don't
recall
exactly
who
brought
up
the
idea,
but
there
was
an
idea
brought
up
about
well
what,
if
you
consider
closing
between
Convent
and
Salinas,
closing
it
to
vehicular
traffic
and
making
a
pedestrian
only
like
the
other
section
between
Flores
and
convent.
Can
you
think
of
that
I.
G
Think
that
that
definitely
is
going
to
take
some
looking
into
with
some
input
from
the
stakeholders
that
are
owners
there,
and
also
we
looked
at
what
they
had
done
in
novel
Laredo
in
the
get
at
all
type
where
the
medical
is
over.
There.
F
G
Done
some,
they
live
I'm.
G
F
G
If
you
sit
there
at
La,
Mina
and
watch
the
traffic
coming,
the
pedestrian
traffic
that
comes
from
the
bridge
right
there
whoever's
going
to
the
bridge
or
going
out
of
the
way
they'll
be
on
the
south
side
of
the
street,
but
everyone
else
that's
going.
North
crosses
over
right
there,
where
there's,
no
traffic,
where
it's
already
closed
and
and
then
they're
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
So
they
were.
There
already
is
a
closed
section
where
there's
no
traffic,
where
The
Pedestrian
can
cross.
F
A
G
There
could
be
some
way
finding,
certainly
right
there,
because
I
believe
in
Texas
I'm,
not
a
DPS
Trooper,
but
I
believe
that
you
can
turn
you
could
turn
left
on
a
red
light
if
it's
a
one-way
street.
So
that
is
the
situation
that
Zaragoza
and
convent
right
now,
but
the
traffic
backs
up
because
most
people
don't
know
that
and
there's
no
sign
there.
That
says
that
you
could
do
that,
but
certainly
closing
the
street
has
always
been
kind
of
on
the
table,
but
it
would
take
some
conversations.
G
You
know
with
the
people
that
it's
going
to
affect
the
businesses,
because
there
are
a
couple
of
businesses
that
are.
You
know
that
they
have
merchandise
and
then,
where
how
would
you
deliver?
You
have
to
go
around.
J
So
certainly
that
is
a
very
different
approach
to
what
we've
got
in
our
scope
right.
Our
scope
is
certainly
accounting
for
pedestrian
traffic,
but
you
know
widening
the
sidewalks
on
that
block,
but
certainly
we're
keeping
into
account
that
we've
got
to
allow
vehicles
through
there
so
taking
out
the
vehicle
perspective
is
kind
of
a
change
in
philosophy
on
that
block
and
would
require,
in
my
opinion,
looking
at
much
more
of
the
downtown
area,
because
it's
it
can
be
a
domino
effect
and
how
you
affect
traffic
right.
J
So
you
know
there's
traffic
that
comes
out
Salinas.
It
goes
that
way.
So
if
you
close
that,
where
do
you
send
them
and
how
do
you
send
them
and
it
can
be
a
domino
effect
of
discussion
and
I
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up,
because
if
you
know
if
the
tours
board
asks
us
to
look
at
that
as
a
design
team,
then
you
know
that's
going
to
take
some
some
some
time
and
some
scope
and
there's
much
more
there's.
J
Other
people
involved
traffic's
going
to
be
involved
in
the
discussion
engineering,
but
we
also
have
the
taxis
on
that
block.
So
if
you
close
that
off
now
that
whole
discussion
with
the
taxis
on
that
block,
get
relocated
and
so
on
so
forth
and-
and
you
know
again,
certainly
if
you
close
that
block,
how
else
do
you
move
the
traffic
around
the
area,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up?
It
was
an
interesting
concept,
an
interesting
approach
that
I
thought
was
presented
at
our
meeting
there,
but
we
would
need
some
direction
if
it
needs.
A
G
H
G
G
Part
of
the
exploration
could
be
Salina
Street
that
so
that
you
could
turn
right
or
west
to
get
to
Santa
Maria,
because
that's
a
that's
what
you
can
do
now.
Is
you
go
through
the
parking
garage
and
then
you
have
an
easy
out
to
Santa
Maria,
so
you
could
travel
North
instead
of
going
down
Saragosa
to
Convent
and
then
going
north
on
common
there.
But
it
seems
like
that,
wouldn't
be
that
there's
some
landscape
there,
but
it's
not
a
huge
impediment
to
to
traffic.
G
You
could
literally
drive
over
it
right
now.
Yeah.
J
J
You
know
currently
right
now,
when
you
go
down
Salinas.
If
you
do
get
stuck,
there
is
actually
a
swing
gate
there
and
most
of
the
time
I
think
there's
a
guard
there,
not
24
7,
but
there
is
like
a
metal
swing,
gate
and
I
believe
they'll
swing,
it
open
and
they'll.
J
Let
you
through
and
then
that
forces
you
to
go
left
and
then
you
go
through
one
of
the
booths
that
takes
you
to
Mexico,
but
they'll,
let
you
through
and
then
you
end
up
popping
up
on
to
Convent
and
you
come
back
up
that
section
of
convent
one
week
so
yeah
it's
it's
obviously
a
lot
of
permission
to
be
to
do
that
route
and
I,
don't
think.
Obviously
it's
not
you're
not
able
to
do
that.
J
24
7
because
I
don't
think
somebody's
standing
there,
opening
the
gate,
24
7,
but
but
I
I
would
say
that
if,
if
we
need
to
explore
that
there
needs
to
be
several
departments
involved,.
A
A
C
Mister
yeah
coming
back
from
carols.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
have
business
engagement
on
that
because
we've
every
time
we've
talked
about
this,
someone
has
raised
the
lack
of
parking,
and
you
know
you
move
those
taxi
cabs.
Where
do
they
go
next?
Does
that
take
up
other
parking
and
we've
had
that
concern
for
us?
We
definitely
want
to
engage
the
business
folks.
That
would
be
impacted
the
most
by
it.
A
A
F
J
Not
change
the
sidewalk
improvements,
but
it
would
certainly
change
the
intersection.
It
would
change
the
intersection.
It
would
change,
I
mean
I,
guess
it
could
it
could
improve
or
open
up
the
use
of
Saragosa.
So
we
wouldn't
have
the
loading
striping
there.
The
loading
would
still
operate
the
same
as
the
other
block
which
they
would
pull
the
bollards
and
then
you'd
have
the
whole
street
to
load.
J
Yeah,
so
currently,
on
the
other
side,
so
the
side
between
Flores
and
convent
We've
we've
seen
it
and
are
many
times
being
out
there.
There'll
be
a
truck
delivery.
Truck
they'll
get
down.
Take
the
bollards
out,
pull
in
you
know
they
have
all
the
street
space,
do
all
their
loading
and
unloading,
and
then
they
pull
back
out,
put
the
Ballers
back
and
move
on.
So
you
know
it
would
improve
things
from
that
perspective.
You
know,
and
that
could
change
how
our
plans
are
represented
right
on
that
on
that
side
of
things,
because.
G
C
A
That
point
yeah
Mr
gastion
any
thoughts.
G
G
Dogs
right
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
our
projects
went
elsewhere
and
a
whole
one
whole
side
of
the
street
on
just
two
blocks
when
it
doesn't
reach
the
the
anchors
is.
H
You
want
to
say
yeah
I,
think
you
know
one
thing
to
add
to
that:
I
think
part
of
the
just
and
I
was
just
thinking.
You
know.
I
know
we
sort
of
cross
when
we
walk
down
sarigoza
we
crossed
to
the
north
side
and
then
cross
on
the
North
side.
I.
Think
of
of
of
convent
right
I
think
the
reason
why
we
do
that
is
because
that
sidewalk
is
a
lot
more
friendlier
than
the
sidewalk,
where
the
taxi
cabs,
Park,
so
I
think
just
subconsciously.
H
You
know
I
don't
want
to
cross
on
that
side,
it's
a
little
rough
I'm
going
to
cross.
On
the
other
side,
it's
a
little
bit
more
open
and
I.
Think
we're
only
going
to
make
that
more
apparent.
Once
we
do
the
the
tiered
sidewalks
with
the
seating
and
I
think
I
think
that's
something
we
can
certainly
look
at
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
we
can
conduct
sort
of
that
fact-finding
initiative
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
more
information
for
the
board.
Yeah.
A
I
would
make
that
I
would
like
to
leave
that
as
a
motion
as
well
to
to
ask
people.
So
you
can
conduct
that
fact
finding
without
any
directive
from
the
board,
except
to
come
back
with
what
you
find
yeah
on
whether
the
closure
would
work
for
those
stakeholders.
Is
there
a
second
to
that
motion
seconded
by
Mr
Castile?
Any
additional
discussion.
G
Well,
I
just
would
like
to
mention
that
a
lot
of
that
South
Side
traffic
on
the
on
Zaragoza
is
come
is
be,
is
our
pedestrians
that
are
that
are
unloading
at
San,
Augustine,
Plaza
and
then
they're
headed
south
and
they're
headed
to
the
bridge,
and
so
they
they're
on
that
side,
even
though
it's
less
and
then,
instead
of
going
to
Salinas,
they
walk
through
the
El
Portal
down,
Convent,
South
and
and
there's
that
wall
it
is.
It
is
not
because
the
traffic's
coming
off
the
bridge
it
is,
it
is
not.
J
In
May,
oh
with
some
of
the
and
I'll
be
nice
I'll
get
to
okay
I'll
get
to
that
here
in
a
little
bit,
but
there's
certainly
that
was
one
thing
that
you
know
with
some
of
this
fact-finding.
You
know
we'll
need
some
additional
time
to
you
know
get
through
that.
So
we
see
how
it
affects
that
one
block.
A
J
Yeah
and
I
can
yeah.
Let
me
move
on
to
the
I'll
move
on
to
the
next
one,
so
I
guess
in
summary,
in
that
meeting
with
the
city
manager,
those
are
kind
of
the
three
main
things:
utilities,
fire
and
traffic
department.
J
I
guess
I'll
go
ahead
and
jump
real
quickly,
just
just
to
give
you
an
update
on
item
number
two
there.
So
on
April
26th
we
had
a
field
meeting
with
a
t
and
spectrum
and
just
a
reminder
for
the
board
prior
to
the
April
meeting.
One
day
before
we
had
a
field
meeting
with
AEP,
so
we
had
already
had
the
meeting
with
AEP,
walk
the
project
and
discussed
upgrades
potential
upgrades
to
the
the
their
polls
and
the
overheads
and
what
they
can
do.
J
Just
a
brief
update
on
on
AEP
they're,
currently
working
on
looking
at
it
from
a
design
perspective
based
on
our
our
field
meeting
and
and
so
with
ATT
and
Spectrum.
We
walked
the
project
with
them,
informed
them
that
we
met
with
AEP.
Aep
is
looking
at
providing
us
with
a
cost
to
upgrade
their
wood,
poles,
the
steel
poles
and
moving
a
few
poles
on
that
side.
J
I
will
say
on
the
two
blocks
of
Saragosa
a
t
and
Spectrum
generally
their
their
response
was
that
if
AEP
comes
in
and
upgrades
the
polls
or
relocates,
the
polls
and
they'll
take
their
services
and
put
them
on
the
new
polls
and
when
they
do
that,
they
generally
agree
that
they
would
clean
up
the
aerial
view,
and
so
they
they
they
did
note
or
they
did
understand
or
see
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
aerial.
J
You
know
there
could
have
been
a
service
to
a
business,
and
so
there
was
wires
going
to
the
business
business
closes.
They
cut
the
wires
and
leave
them
there,
so
they're
dangling
or
they
cut
the
wires
and
roll
them
up.
And
so
you
see
a
big
old
roll.
A
big
old
nest
bundle.
So
they've
agreed
that
you
know
some
of
those
things
have
have
been
left
on
the
power
poles
and
the
aerial
wires,
and
so
generally
they
agreed
that
they
would
come
in
and
clean
things
up
and
they
would
look
at
that
cost.
J
We're
waiting
from
AEP
to
get
a
a
final
design
location
of
the
poll
so
that
we
can
share
that
with
a
t
and
spectrum
and
then
they
would
go
ahead
and
provide
us
with
their
cost
estimate
to
do
that.
But
generally
that
meeting
went
very
well.
We
did
walk
the
two
blocks
of
Saragosa,
which
is
what
we
walked
with
AEP.
We
did
walk
the
other
blocks
of
it.
J
F
J
J
We
talk
through
them
that
that
line
actually,
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
is
a
main
line
that
a
t
has
that
provides
fiber,
optics
or
communication
to
the
bridge.
So
that's
an
important
line
for
them
wow
and
it
just
it's
coming
from
the
their.
Their
infrastructure
comes
along
the
west
side
of
Flores
Street
there
at
the
San,
Augustine
Plaza,
so
Flores
and
Saragosa
they're
on
the
west
side
of
Flores
and
they're
coming
north
south.
J
So
when
they
hit
that
quarter
where
the
pawn
shop
is
they
turn
and
then
they
come
at
this
diagonal
and
they're,
headed
towards
the
bridge
with
there.
So
that's
an
important
infrastructure
for
them,
but
we
did
discuss
potential
design.
Ideas
of
you
know
maybe
Crossing
perpendicular
and
then
you
know
coming
across.
You
know
and
they're
going
to
look
at
they're
they're.
Looking
at
that,
okay,
it
talks
about
Underground.
J
F
J
Know
underground,
they
didn't
really
provide
any
comments
in
the
field,
but
they're
underground
concept
is,
is
a
lot
like
aeps
it
it
could
get
expensive.
J
Now
we
did
talk
about
the
potential
in
certain
locations
of
you
know.
If
they
can
cross
perpendicular.
J
Would
there
be
a
possibility
for
us
if
there
were
just
happened
to
be
two
polls
where
they
can
come
down
and
go
across
then?
Could
we
leave
them
a
conduit
and
have
them
at
least
that
portion
would
be
underground?
And
generally
they
did
say
that
that
they
could
work
with
us
on
that,
but
something
like
this
at
a
diagonal
I,
don't
it
didn't,
seem
like
they
would
be
possible
to
put
it
Underground
at
a
diagonal
like
that.
J
So
and
then,
of
course,
a
lot
of
the
other
things
that
you
see
is
in
in
many
of
the
businesses
and
eight
we
saw
with
aep2
is
the
services
are
kind
of
coming
in
aerially
through
a
Weatherhead
up
on
the
top
of
the
building?
So
if
we
change
servicing
buildings
to
underground,
we
could
provide
conduits
underground
and
look
at
that.
But
then
it
could
cause
the
building
to
have
to
do
some
improvements
in
order
to
accept
the
infrastructure
underground
versus
above
ground.
J
So
we
did
discuss
that
with
the
utility
companies
so
generally
they're
they're,
all
working
through
looking
at
this
on
their
end
and
they're
supposed
to
come
back
and
provide
us
with
costs
and
are
you
going
to.
A
J
We
could
we
could
leave
the
sleeve.
Yes,
we
so
as
part
of
the
extra.
The
additional
scope
we
were
looking
at
to
to
coordinate
and
get
a
cost
from
them
is.
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
get
some
design
from
them
or
some
input
from
them,
and
then
we
can
take
that
input
and
see
how
we
can
apply
it
to
our
project
and
then
provide
potentially
an
exhibit.
J
Yeah
yeah
it
it
so
we
would
have
to
provide
conduits
for
all
the
different
utility
providers.
A
J
Yeah
we
we
can.
We
can
generally
just
look
at
that
and
put
the
conduits
in
problem
with
putting
conduits
in.
Is
you
know
if
you
just
leave
them
in
and
they
don't
get
used,
then
you
tend
to
have
the
conduit
sticking
up
out
of
the
ground
or
you
know
we
would
need
to
think
of
another
idea
of
how
we
can
I.
Don't
see
them,
you
seal
them,
conceal
them,
maybe
put
on
a
pool
box
so
that
that's
placed
in
the
sidewalk
improvements
that
we
do.
J
So
that's
generally
the
update
on
a
t
and
Spectrum.
So
let
me
go
to
so
just
two
days
after
that
meeting
was
a
field
meeting
that
we
had
with
the
fire
department.
So
on
April
28th
we
went
to
we
met
with
the
fire
department.
We
had
the
Fire
Chief
Fire
Marshal
it
was.
They
had
a
lot
of
their
staff
present
at
that
meeting
and
what
they
did
is
they.
J
They
had
requested
to
conduct
a
trial
run
of
their
aerial
ladder,
truck
on
the
section
of
ite,
which
is
the
existing
section
that
has
the
bump
outs
in
the
parking.
So
we
met
out
there
and
there's
a
few
pictures
on
on
what
they
did,
so
what
they
basically
did
is
they
brought
their
aerial
truck
and
what
they
do
is
they
bring
their
aerial
truck?
Whenever
they
come
to
downtown,
we
were
told
by
the
driver
that
they
will
typically
come
down.
J
Santa,
Ursula
and
they're
coming
down
Santa
and
then
just
depending
on
where
the
fire
is
in
downtown.
Then
they'll
turn
on
one
of
the
blocks
off
of
Santa
Rosa.
So
any
of
the
blocks
that
go
east
to
west
they'll
turn
that
way
and
then
they'll
make
their
way
around.
So
it
the
the
the
the
understanding
I
got
from
them
is
the
aerial
truck
needs
to
have
maneuverability
East-West
on
the
streets.
They
don't
typically
will
have
the
aerial
truck
make
a
turn
on
the
north-south
streets.
J
They'll
typically
get
the
aerial
truck
to
position
itself
so
that
it
has
access
to
those
streets.
If
there
was
a
fire
on
the
side
streets,
so
what
they
did
is
they
went
down
onto
ecobee
there.
You
can
see
here
in
these
pictures.
They
they
Park
themselves
and
I.
Don't
know!
H
J
So
yeah,
so
what
what
happens
is
the
aerial
truck
will
will
park
wherever
it
needs
to
position
itself
for
the
fire?
And
then
the
aerial
truck
has
booms
I?
Guess
they
call
them
booms
or
legs
that
stick
out.
So
it's
got
four
legs
that'll
stick
out
and
they'll
extend
out
up
to
almost
21
feet
about
20
feet,
six
inches
from
end
to
end,
not
20
feet
each
Direction,
it's
from
from
end
to
end
20,
20
feet.
J
What
we
were
seeing
was
it
kind
of
levels
or
or
puts
a
good
footing
for
the
fire
truck
that
allows
the
aerial
ladder
to
allows
the
ladder
to
to
come
up
and
what
we
noticed
or
what
we
saw
was
in
that
particular
block
of
it.
J
There
was
you
see
it
right
here
in
this
picture
in
this
picture
over
here
to
the
you
see
right
there,
where
my
pointer
is,
they
had
parked
one
of
their
Suburbans
right
there
and,
as
one
of
the
booms
came
out,
it
did
not
have
the
ability
to
fully
extend
because
the
vehicle
was
there,
so
one
boom
was
able
to
extend
in
front
of
the
vehicle,
but
the
other
boom
couldn't
fully
extend,
and
so
without
fully
extending
the
vehicle.
What
we
were
being
told
is
it's
essentially
a
safety
mechanism
for
the
ladder
truck.
J
So
if
a
boom
doesn't
get
fully
extended,
then
the
ladder
truck
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
turn
in
that
direction,
because
I
guess
it
could
potentially
tip
over.
So
in
order
for
the
ladder
truck
to
have
full
360
degree
maneuverability,
when
it's
extended,
all
booms
need
to
be
fully
extended
out,
so
it
takes
up
quite
a
bit
of
space.
J
They
know
that
because
this
is
an
existing
Street
and
that
is
an
existing
problem
that
they
have
to
deal
with
today
and
every
day
if
they
have
a
fire
on
that
street.
So
they
wanted
to
just
kind
of
show
how
their
ladder
truck
worked
in
that
maneuver.
In
that
manner,
we
took
measurements
of
everything,
the
length
of
the
truck,
the
width
of
the
truck
the
length
of
the
Booms
The
booms
from
tip
to
tip.
We
took
video
and
measurement
of
all
of
that
and
took
real
good
notes
of
of
the
ladder
truck
generally.
J
What
they
mentioned
was
you
know
they
they
will.
They
understand
the
the
project
and
will
work
with
us
on
that
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
account
for
some
of
their
parameters
that
they
need.
You
know
need
to
be
looked
at,
so
what
they
did
was
we
we
looked
at
at
this
particular
Street
when
we
were
when
we
were
done
here.
They
wanted
to
look
at
the
Saragosa
between
Convent
and
Salinas,
so
so
we
walked
down
to
that
particular
block
when
we
walked
to
that
block.
J
They
drove
down
to
that
block.
So
when
they
the
way
that
they
get
to
that
block,
is
they
have
to
go
all
the
way,
Santa
Maria
and
at
Santa
Maria,
because
it's
wider,
they
have
the
room
to
turn,
so
they
go
down
to
Santa
Maria
turn
South
and
go
all
the
way
down
to
Saragosa
Santa
Maria
Zaragoza,
which
is
kind
of
that
middle
part
of
the
outlets,
and
then
they
turn
on
that
street.
J
And
then
they
come
down
Saragosa
right
by
the
outlets
right
in
that
section,
that
had
was
improved
a
few
years
ago,
and
they
did
note
to
us
that
when
they
go
through
that
section,
it's
they
do
feel
it
kind
of
tight
and
that
there
are
times
that
you
know
vehicles
are
parked
there.
They
sometimes
hit
mirrors
and
stuff,
and
so
it's
you
know
they
did
Express
at
their
concerned
about
some
of
that
in
that
particular
area.
But
that's
how
they
got
to
so.
J
They
went
that
way
and
then
crossed
over
Salinas
to
get
to
Saragosa
and
and
convent
I
mean
it's
Salinas
and
you'll,
see
that
in
in
this
first
picture
up
right
here
and
so
what
they
did
is
they
kind
of
positioned
themselves
there
and
we
kind
of
explained
to
them
about
where
our
sidewalk
was
going
to
come
out
to
in
our
design
which
in
the
picture
would
be.
You
know
somewhere
about
right
here
and
so
they
kind
of
position
themselves
there.
J
Now
we
did
ask
a
question
and
and
said
you
know,
can
your
booms
be
placed
on
a
sidewalk
and
they
said
sure
you
know
our
Boons
can
extend
out
and
we
can
set
our
feet
on
the
sidewalk,
the
they
they
did
mention
you
know.
We
would
be
concerned
that
if
our
boom
is
sitting
on
a
sidewalk
and
it's
putting
all
that
weight
on
the
sidewalk,
could
it
potentially
crack
the
sidewalk.
J
So
you
know
one
thing
we
can
consider
is
you
know,
maybe
in
certain
sections
of
where
they
are
going,
there's
a
potential
that
their
booms
can
extend
onto
the
sidewalk.
Then
we
can
design
the
sidewalk
a
little
bit
thicker
or
maybe
with
some
rebar
instead
of
the
common
welded
wire
mesh,
to
give
it
a
little
more
strength
so
that
it
doesn't
crack
the
sidewalk.
If
ever
they
need
to
do
that.
J
So
I
think
that's
a
simple
design
fix
on
our
end
to
account
for
that
that
issue
that
they
have,
but
they
that
that
was
the
General
comments
that
we
got
from
them.
So
two
two
main
things
we
got
out
of
it
number
one
was:
they
need
the
ability
to
turn
on
Santa
Rosa.
J
Our
previous
design
had
some
bump
outs
and
some
things
at
the
intersection
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
do
exactly
like
we
had
wanted
to.
We
still
can
do
some
improvements
at
the
intersection,
but
we
might
have
to
look
at
a
different
approach
to
them,
but
they
they
need
that
ability
to
turn
at
that
intersection.
So
we
have
to
allow
for
that.
We're
currently
analyzing
that
intersection
right
now.
We've
made
some
improvements
and
we're
going
to
get
back
with
the
design
team.
Just
so
that
we
can
finalize
that.
J
The
second
thing
that
they
that
that
they
needed
was
they're
like
look
we'll
work
with
you
on
certain
areas
of
E
turbide,
but
we
we
need
an
ability
to.
You
know,
stop
somewhere
and
extend
the
booms
out
so
we're
currently
looking
with
the
design
team,
we're
looking
at
some
options
as
to
how
we
can
accommodate
their
needs
on
that
without
affecting
the
the
whole
project,
so
that
that
was
the
feedback
that
we
got
out
of
that
meeting
on
the
28th.
J
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
comments
or
questions
for
plans.
So
we
are
we're
probably
going
to
be
able
to
re,
come
back
with
exhibits
to
the
fire
department,
so
the
fire
department
did
ask
us.
J
Can
you
please
provide
us
some
exhibits
that
show
our
trucks
turning
and
what
it
looks
like,
so
that
we
can
give
you
our
blessing,
my
My
Hope
Is
that
we
can
get
back
with
them
next
week
with
these
exhibits,
we'll
run
them
through
the
design
team
one
last
time
and
then
get
back
to
the
fire
department
with
those
exhibits
and
hopefully
get
some
blessing
on
that
I
would
say
that
between
you
know
this
fact
finding
on
Saragosa,
I
I
would
say
at
least
we
could
push
another
month.
J
You
know
30
days
to
address
the
fact
finding
and
to
get
through
the
fire
department.
J
I'll
get
I
guess
get
a
blessing
from
the
fire
department
on
our
final
design
so
that
we
can
finalize
plans
so
and
then
you
know
to
be
upfront.
You
know,
certainly,
if
there's
some
back
and
forth
with
the
fire
department
or
some
issues
there.
G
Have
a
question
looking
at
this
picture:
can
you
put
the
pictures
up
there?
J
J
G
So
if
you
go
back
to
the
other
picture
on
Saragosa.
G
J
J
Obstacles
like
that
aerial
yeah,
they
don't
have
much
of
a
choice.
I,
don't
think
I
mean
they.
If
there's
a
fire
on
that
street
they've
got
to
get
there
and
they've
got
to
find
a
way
to
if,
if
they
have
to
go
aerially
with
the
latter
that
yes,
they
would
have
to
find
a
way
to
do
it.
I
mean
I'm
sure
they
come
across
without
getting
obstacles
every
single
day
all
day,
I,
don't
know
how
they
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
fire
department
and
how
they
address
that.
J
Is
the
one
poll
that
AEP
is
looking
at
cleaning
up
for
us
generally,
I
would
say
on
this
block
in
our
discussion
with
AEP
is,
if
you
look
I
know
it's
hard
to
see
in
this
picture,
but
these
the
block
of
Saragosa
behind
the
outlet
shops
when
they
did
the
outlet
shops.
J
There
are
steel,
poles,
steel,
poles
and
they're
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
so
AEP
kind
of
went
out
there
and
said:
can
we
just
take
our
South
Poles,
because
here
you
have
polls,
you
have
overhead
lines
on
the
south
side
and
the
north
side.
So
they
said
we
are
connect,
we're
going
to
consider
putting
steel
poles
on
the
north
side
and
strategically.
You
know
on
some
spots
and
there's
already
some
there
so
some
of
those
polls
they
said
they
could.
J
G
But
so
I
mean
I,
don't
really
see
the
difference
between
a
aesthetically
between
a
wood
pole
and
a
steel
pole.
Who
cares?
You
know
it's
a
poll
as
a
poll
right.
The
problem
is
all
of
this
stuff,
all
of
the
wires
going
back
and
forth.
G
So
if
you
go
back
to
the,
if
you
look
at
this
picture
right
in
the
middle,
which
is
the
designated
walkway
between
those
anchors
and
then
you
go
over
one
to
the
side
to
the
itubida,
if
you
go
over
a
slide,
oh
sorry
to
what
this
one
looks
like
over
here,
where
the,
where
the
ladder
truck
is-
and
there
are
no
utility
poles
and
no
utilities
overhead
or
on
the
side
or
down
the
pole,
it's
it's
a
much
more
attractive.
G
And
pedestrian,
friendly,
walk
and
and
of
course
is
the
is
the
street
that
looks
the
best
downtown,
but
I
was
struck
by
this
by
when
I
saw
this
ladder
truck
here,
how
could
how
can
it
work
on
on
Zaragoza.
J
They
make
it
work,
I
guess
they
did
not.
They
did
not
bring
the
aerial
portion
up
on
Saragosa.
We
didn't
need
to
see
that
we
had
already
seen
it
on
this
other
block.
From
our
perspective,
what
they
wanted
to
show
us
on.
Saragosa
was:
what
are
you
doing,
Improvement
wise,
where?
How
would
we
position
our
vehicle
and
what
would
the
booms
need
to
do
and
so
that
that's
we
just
looked
at
it
from
a
ground
perspective
on
Zaragoza.
That
was
the
second
stop
we
made
it
was
public
works
at
those
weeks.
J
J
Which
Saragosa
between
Convent
and
Salinas,
yes,
yeah
I,
think
we
did
mention
that,
maybe
at
the
last
meeting
you
know
that
we
need
to
consider
how
we
look
at
that.
J
A
J
Yes,
sir
yep
yeah
and
we've
we've
kept
him
aware
of
our
different
meetings
and
and
given
him
at
least
a
summary
after
after
the
meeting
do.
H
J
So
we'll
yeah
I
guess
we'll
bring
back
we'll
share
immediately
when
we
get
them.
If
we,
if
we
need
to
the
exhibits
that
we
put
together
for
the
fire
department
and
certainly
we
need
to
share
with
fire
department,
engineering
and
everybody
else,
okay,
great.
A
A
C
J
Yeah,
no,
no,
no
yeah
yeah!
As
soon
as
we
have
those
done
and
I'm
hoping
we'll
have
those
ready
for
early
next
week,
we'll
be
sharing
them
with
the
fire
department,
with
the
fire
chief
and
Fire
Marshal
and
an
engineering
department
and
getting
them
to
just
to
say:
okay,
they're
they're
good,
with
the
approach
that
we
are
taking
for
them.
A
For
in
terms
of
just
committee
work,
you
all
are
planning
to
have
some
committee
meetings
or
a
combination
of
sort
of
meetings
to
get
some
of
this
business
done
right.
Yes,
wayfinding
and
traffic
I'm,
just
trying
to
think
of
what
what
Mr
Garcia
brought
up
during
public
comment
of
Parkland
dedication,
I
mean
I'm,
going
to
study
it.
A
A
J
Did
well
I,
guess:
I'll,
let
you
guys
develop
the
the
communication,
but
did
you
want
us
to
meet
with
traffic
ahead
of
time,
for
the
plaza
or
for
the
for
the
the
Plaza
parking
yeah.
J
F
I
F
H
J
It's
a
little
more
complicated
I
think
is
a
little
more
complicated.
It's
got.
I've
noticed
that
it
has
taxi
parking
on
one
end
or
maybe
even
two
ends,
and
then,
of
course
you
have
the
traffic
portion
in
front
of
La
Posada,
and
then
everybody
drops
off
on
that
southwest
corner
so
that
one
may
be
a
little
more
complicated,
but
we
can
certainly
look
at
it.
A
A
Anything
else
that
the
board
wants
to
entertain.
Okay,
so
then
we'll
have
no
action
on
that
item.
The
last
item
is
discussion.
Possible
action
regarding
invoices
submitted
by
able
City
and
KCI
Technologies
I
didn't
see
a
KCI
invoice,
so
we
only
have
one
for
Eagle
City.