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12-05-18 Technical Review Board Ad Hoc Advisory Committee
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B
Thank
you.
Sir
item
number
three
consider
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
of
november
7th
2018.
F
I'll
make
a
motion
the
way
that
we
push
it
to
the
next
few
seconds.
B
Thank
you
item
number
four
chairman
committee
reports
and
communications.
F
System
communications,
and
can
we
go
over
the
the
communications
that
we're
going
to
png
tomorrow
for
the
both
the
irrigation
orients
and
the
setbacks.
F
A
Okay,
since
I
do
have
a
copy
of
this
report,
I
can
just
read
this
and
you
follow
the
red.
H
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F
M
F
Like
there
was
a
duplicated
word,
I
think
it
was.
It
was
captured.
B
A
D
F
D
A
Okay
and
then
actually,
six,
oh
and
there
it
is-
and
so
here
it
says,
delete
the
dot
and
at
the
end
of
certification,
of
the
irrigation
contract
period.
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C
F
Was
he
annually
correct
on
yourself?
Yes,
okay,
oh
change,
those
and.
A
A
No
irrigation
or
vegetation
shall
be
installed
within
48
hours,.
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F
C
D
K
Is
was
there
a
way
that
we
could
that
you
can
communicate
this
ordinance
to
all
of
them
when,
when
they
get
introduced.
A
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F
Q
F
D
K
H
C
K
By
them,
so
if
this
is
an
ordinance
that
you
see
in
a
home,
you
have
to
comply
with
the
city,
some
of
you
guys
are
developers
the
and
you
create
a
natural
way
right.
Do
you
know
the
homeowners,
the
developer?
Does
he
create
a
choice.
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E
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E
D
Was
go.
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F
F
Modify
anything
anything.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
okay,
here
you
go
down
and
go
down
and
there
we
didn't
have
anything
in
there
to
to
waive
anything
for
commercial
yeah
yeah.
We
had
a
picture
today.
Yeah
see
right
off
the
bat
we
didn't
have
anything
to
change.
Supplementary
standards
for
commercial.
F
We
didn't
have
anything
to
change.
Building
setbacks
on
the
community,
central
business
district,
so
minimize
that
one
a
little
bit
is
that
it
can
make
it
bigger.
K
F
F
No,
that's!
That's
nothing.
F
A
Give
me
a
title
iv.
M
B
P
F
A
F
F
F
F
K
That
didn't
get
documented.
F
K
B
L
Anything
to
maintain
to
discuss
is
gonna,
be
that
chart
with,
with
all
the
values
of
the
setbacks.
That's
really
to
be
the
I.
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B
Themselves,
I
would
think
in
order
to
make
it
into
the
deal
and
that's
what
you're
saying
you
get
to
say:
okay,
yeah,
we
agree
with
it
and
then
switch
it
yeah,
because
that
was
old
or
I
don't
know
if
it
wasn't.
B
Q
D
L
That
would
be
just
the
ideal
thing
just
to
to
provide
the
update.
It's
kind
of
the
same
item,
the
same
discussion
with
the
other
one
there's
my
some
some
grammatical
items
just
to
and
and
the
excuse
really
is
just
we
and
how
long
we
have
the
follow-up
meeting
that
was
today,
and
so
that's
what
we're
able
to
find
some
little
little
components.
But
please,
you
know
accept
this
as
the
updated,
but
the
main
discussion
is,
I
bet.
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J
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L
K
F
Then,
mr
chairman,
do
you
want
to
call
a
special
meeting
two
weeks
after
that,
just
in
case
we
want
to
modify
our
recommendation.
F
D
B
B
F
We
said:
well,
we
did
the
setbacks,
johnny
sent
it
to
sherry
and
it
went
to
the
it
went.
F
At
least
one
of
the
meetings-
andy
who's,
one
of
the
the
vice
president
of
the
builders
association
was
here,
and
one
of
the
was
one
of
the
meetings.
When
you
sent
cherie
yeah.
B
Typically,
we
have
a
very
low
turnout
from
builders
when
they're,
especially
when,
when
they're,
when
there's
a
big.
What
do
you
call
that,
when.
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F
No,
no,
no,
that
was
for
the
irrigation
that
was
for
the
irrigation
ordinance
is
when
we
found
the
when
we
found
the
document
that
we
had
all
worked
on.
But
on
this
one
it
was
always
the
word
document
that
we
had.
Originally,
it
was
a
pdf
I
had
presented
or
had
submitted
as
a
pdf,
which
is
one
of
the
files
in
there
and
then
at
the
next
meeting.
F
F
So
I
converted
that
the
new
website
to
a
word
document,
because
we
didn't
have
the
original
word
document
and
then
roland,
had
said
at
the
meeting.
F
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B
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C
You're
gonna
go
back
and
forth
for
a
while.
I
think
maybe
somebody
go
to
the
png
meeting
tomorrow
and
just
kind
of
review
to
make
sure
we're
not
they're
not
being.
B
Can't
well,
we
tasked
just
to
I
don't
know.
No,
no,
because
we're
just
recommending
something
we're
just
talking
about
a
little
while
ago.
Have
the
tendency
to
table.
B
K
F
E
F
Correct
this
for
the
meeting,
then
we're
good.
That's
the
point,
I'm
trying
to
that's
the
point
that
I'm
trying
to
make
and
then
we
can
have
another
meeting
two
weeks
after
yes,
yes
and
or
you
know,
say
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
stay
with
our.
L
I
B
B
And
then
and
then
so
that
that
way,
when
they
approve
it
or
make
changes
to
it,
they
can
make
changes.
Maybe
staff
can
kind
of
tell
them
hey.
Whenever
you
make
changes,
say
we're
looking.
We
want
to
change
this
chart
and
any
other
whatever
that
corresponds
with
it
and
they'll
land
it
on
the
foot
and
then
that
way,
they're
generally.
I
I
F
A
Okay:
okay,
there's
a
on
the
chart,
the
residential
plan
after
and
there
is
no
date.
F
F
If
you
go
to
the
one
that
victor
sent
just
close
this
one
up
and
go
to
the
one
that
victor
the.
F
Yeah,
except
let's
go
down
to
the
bottom
of
it.
F
G
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B
C
Okay
running
like
you're,
building,
250
300
square
foot,
and
I
wonder
why
it's
always
over
budget
just
oh
man!
If
they
could
not
engineer
it,
I
could
save
easily
like
150
000,
but
that's
what
they're
going
for
fancy
stuff.
What.
C
Get
the
the
north
never
mind
yeah
we
like
doing
that.
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B
F
Okay
and.
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F
Yeah
because
we
didn't
and
that's
and
there's
probably,
we
need
two
exhibits
for
this
one,
one
for
new
subdivisions
and
one
for
existing,
because
at
the
committee
level
the
recommendation
here
was
that
we
didn't
want
to
change.
F
M
D
F
F
We
probably
put
it
on
the
on
the
supplementary
standards.
That's
probably
where
we.
M
F
No,
no,
no
table
503.
No,
that's
the
building
table,
503,
that's
in
the
icc
or
what
is
it
the.
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B
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E
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F
F
No,
not
that
one,
the
one
that's
the
excel
spreadsheet.
F
F
J
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C
E
C
C
Understand,
I
guess
what.
F
F
And
that
you
always
have
to
maintain
your
20
feet
to
park
the
cars,
the
two-car
off-street
parking
20
feet
that
there's
no
syntax
that
can
exceed
that.
Who
could
just.
C
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A
A
And
then
I
guess.
F
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I
Generally,
this
is
that
that's
what
I
was
envisioning.
You
know:
eat
yeah,
that's
you
that
you
end
up.
So
you
end
up
having
so
you
you
can
extend
your
your
home
to
12
to
10
feet,
yes,
yeah,
but
you
have
to
have
a
carport
side
that
has
20
feet
to
park,
and
then
you
can
have
your
decho
and
the
car.
I
So
this
has
to
be,
this
has
to
be
20
feet,
wide,
yeah
or
maybe
18.,
maybe
18
feet
right.
I
know
like
most
garages
inside
are
20
by
20.
You
know
no
for
a
two-car.
F
P
B
I
Plan
yeah
or
something
pay
for
my.
A
B
H
B
Yeah,
that's,
okay
and
really
the
way
to
do
it
is
because
you're
used
to
seeing
lots
like
that,
but
everybody
else
in
the
world
whenever
they
see
the
lot
dimensions.
They
assume
that
that's
all
the
way
to
the
back
of
the
curve.
You
know
that's
where
everybody
else
yeah
for
everybody
and
even
guys
on
png.
H
L
B
D
N
L
The
only
thing
I
just
would
want
to
see
the
on
the
exhibit
we
might
just
generalizes
a
little
bit.
The
only
concern
it's
a
little
technical
thing
is
on
the
code
book
just
to
see
on
the
spacings
and
such
that
we
don't
my
worst
thing
from
when
it
comes
to
the
city
that
we
promote,
let's
say
certain
dimensions
and
it
has
to
be
those
dimensions,
and
I
know
there's
code
requirements.
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C
I
Yeah
I
mean
you
could
go
and
put
notes.
Like
you
know,
all
these
details
are
for
visual
representation.
Only
all
organisms.
C
F
C
B
F
From
mr
porter
we
had
a
meeting,
I
guess
it
was
like
on
the
third
floor
over
here,
one
of
the
conferences
up
there
and
we
went
over
the
deal
in
this
ordinance.
It's
it's
geared
strictly
for
a
commercial,
if
I
remember,
if
I
recall
correctly,
and
it's
when
you're
going
in
there
and
doing
redevelopment
of
an
existing
place
of
an
existing
of
an
existing
property
and
it's
trying
to
protect
the
trees.
Oh.
K
B
K
F
I
I
Your
committee,
environmental.
F
Okay,
the
environment
they
didn't.
I
don't
believe
there
was
anything
here
regarding
residential.
There
wasn't
anything
here
regarding
any
new
subdivisions.
It
was
all
geared
towards,
like
you,
have
an
existing
business
track
and
you're
gonna
modify
the
business.
If
there's
a
big
tree
in
there,
you've
got
to
preserve
it.
That's.
K
K
Told
me
that
they'll
get
power.
I
need
to
have
two
trees
in
front
of
my
front
yard.
P
E
K
J
I
Well
again,
I
understand
that,
from
the
perspective
of
where
I
think
this
ordinance
is
trying
to
go
with,
they
might
not
allow
that,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
how
that
to
me
personally
and
personally,
but
how
that
applies
to
the
building
setback.
Changes
that
we're
trying
to
make
is,
even
though
we
have
a
building
set
back.
Let's
say
the
building
set
by
gets
approved
to
five
foot
in
the
back
right
up
to.
I
That
doesn't
give
you,
I
don't
personally,
doesn't
give
you
the
right
to
just
knock
everything
down
up
to
five
foot
in
your
backyard.
Just
extend
the
whole
thing
correct
if
you've
got
a
tree
or
something
that
requires
you
to
maintain,
because
some
model,
some
other
ordinance
or
utility
to
mainta
respect,
because
some
other
ordinance
and
then
it.
H
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L
L
I
Well,
I
mean
you
have
tree
preservation,
obviously
the
largest
scale
in
san
antonio,
oh
yeah.
I
mean
because
you've
got
a
lot
of
you
know
ornamental
trees,
or
I
mean
a
buddy
of
mine,
built
a
house.
I
remember
way
north
side
1604
and
there
were
like
two
or
three
mesquite
trees
that
they
were
flying
together.
There
was
foundation
around
like
two
or
three
mosquitoes
excuse
me.
O
J
F
Number
one
they're
protected
first
of
all
by
the
us
government
by
the
u.s
corps
of
engineers.
You
know
the
environmental
protection
agency,
but
the
city
has
an
ordinance
that
kind
of
overlays
that
so
anything
that's
tributary.
To
and
above
you
need
to
have
a
buffer
from
the
high
water
mark,
a
certain
distance
that
you
cannot
obstruct
it.
So
if
you
got
fined,
it
was
probably
because
it
was
in
the
green
space.
J
K
K
B
O
F
Green
space
origin
protects
the
creek
system
and
it's
the
the
second
order.
They
call
them
first
order.
Second
order
or
third
order
streams,
and
this
one
you
have
a
first
order
stream
and
then
another
one
that
becomes
the
second
and
then
you've
got
a
third
one
connected
and
then
becomes
a
third
and
then
they
have
either
like.
E
F
E
The
international
boundary
water
commission
years
ago,
where
we
had
to
put
in
a
water
pump
and
we
removed
the
crease.
B
F
I
guess
back
back
then
yeah
we
got
five
minutes
left
so
back
then
so,
and
is
this
ordinance
only
addresses
commercial
development
and
it
defines
commercial
development
in
zones
ae
b1,
so.
L
O
B
B
I
I
kind
of
agree
with
water
a
little
bit
on
that
in
that
I
don't
again
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
saying.
I
don't
know
where
the
direction
came
for
them
to
look
at
this,
like
what
are.
F
F
Right
and
have
them
making
their
recommendation
and
then
trb
then
submit
it,
submit
it
over
yeah.
F
Of
the
committee
is
not
any
right,
in
other
words,
if,
if
somebody
now
that
they
can
build
five
feet
to
the
back
and
they're
gonna
take
down
the
you
know,
20
inch
caliper
oak
tree
does
that
matter.
E
B
I
C
F
I
D
I
D
F
F
N
N
B
F
O
P
D
L
I
P
F
We
got
sidetracked
with
other
with
other
yeah,
but
the
original
stuff
was
in
there.
I
think
the
the
guy
that
originated
was
was
george
outguilt,
yes,
and
I
believe
his
intent
was
protect
the
environment.
L
D
H
I
F
J
K
O
K
F
F
I
Is
gonna
be
just
like
clarifying
my
mind,
getting
some
stakeholders,
stakeholders.
K
F
Replacement
of
fee
shall
be
150
dollars
per
caliber
protected
fee,
so
I
mean
there's.
Trees
have.
F
F
F
It's
rubber,
stamping
another.
The
committee
feels
that
really
this,
this
preservation
ordinance
should
address
some
of
the
larger
trees
and
the
heights
area,
some
of
the
larger
trees
and
the
and
the
you
know
the
older
neighborhoods,
then
this
street
this
that
we
should
recommend
other
and
then
we
should,
if
you
know
the
mesquite,
the
big
mesquite
trees
are
important
to
us.
You
know
as
a
community,
then
it
should.
Q
F
B
D
B
Mesquitas
they
look
real
nice
like
in
front
of
the
lmb
and
all
those
buildings
on
on
del
mar.
You
got
to
do
them
right
and
prune
them,
and
all
that
maybe
there
can
be
an
incentive
like
hey
if
you
choose
to
save
a
tree
over
a
certain
deal,
even
though
it's
not
required
in
here
in
a
residential
subdivision
development
or
anything
else,
then
maybe
there's
some
incentives
in
there
yeah
to
preserve,
like
an
incentive
to
be
able
to
do
that
over
a
certain
point
for
sure
you
get
credit
for
tutorials
yeah
or
something
like
that.
E
B
B
B
D
Q
Q
F
L
B
We
make
a
motion
to
well
when.
B
F
B
I
guess
we
could.
Why
would
we
go
before
what
are
those
red
lines
we'll
set
the
time
right
now?
L
B
E
E
B
Quick
quick,
quick
question
after
the
after
the
I.
B
E
Thing
is
I
got
appointed
by
by
mike.
I
then
reappointed
by
fortran
yeah,
because
I
already
want
out
right.
F
I
That
way,
yeah
yeah
I'll
make
a
motion
item
number
six
for
discussion
at
the
next
special
meeting.
All
right.
F
So
the
special
meeting
we
have
just
on.
Q
B
B
Another
meeting
on
the
19th,
the
special
meeting
we
saw-
we
have
a
quorum
here,
but
unless
people
get
reappointed
like
really
really.
H
J
F
Originally,
when
we
went
up
there,
we
had
talked
about
setting
some
parameters.
Like
somebody
that
said,
you
know
homeowner
kind
of
a
road
yeah
having
some
engineers
having
some
you
know,
developers
having
kind
of
like
the.