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City of Laredo Technical Review Board Ad-Hoc Committee Meeting held on July 11, 2018.
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I
know
pretty
much
from
the
last
meeting.
Pretty
much
we're
gonna
be
getting
just
data
from
from
utilities
and
kind
of
have
a
discussion
on
on
the
rates
on
my
what's
included.
Also
in
your
package
area
did
provide
some
some
numbers
when
it
comes
to
the
irrigation
use
and
also
when
it
comes
to
water.
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E
So
you
do
see
a
large
number
of
accounts.
More
than
60%
use
more
than
20,000,
where
your
average
home
use
about
8
to
10,000
gallon
commercial
side.
You
do
see
more
than
50%
or
close
to
50%
use
more
than
30,000
gallons,
but
the
interesting
thing
in
commercial,
those
are
small
businesses
I,
guess
they,
those
at
the
33
31
%
they
use
less
than
5,000.
So
those
are
probably
the
small
businesses
has
a
small
strip,
but
the
bigger
accounts
they
use.
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A
At
the
last
meeting
we
had
some
some
discussions
and
I
guess
everything
was
geared
more
towards
a
residential
side
and
just
off
the
cuff,
they
were
making
some
some
of
the
aggregators
or
and
we're
making
some
calculations
on
on
a
residential.
You
know
home
side
trying
to
irrigate
about
4,000
square
feet
and
I'm
over
the
numbers.
If
that
came
up.
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E
That
can,
as
I
had
replied
to
you,
the
billing
system
is
set
up
based
on
the
volumetric
rate.
It's
not.
It
is
not
based
on
the
lot
size,
so
you
have
a
minimum
rate
and
then
you
have
a
volumetric
rate.
We
don't
have
a
separate
rate
for
irrigation,
it's
the
rates
for
our
residential
rates
and
we
have
a
commercial
rates.
So
that's.
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That's
a
question:
there's
a
system
that
the
city
has
today
is
there
mechanism
to
bill
the
volume
based
on
another
criteria,
say:
okay,
well,
that
you
know,
let's
say
they're
irrigating
an
entrance
and
that
could
be
I.
Don't
know
you
know
1
1
meter
for
a
long
distance
or
you
have
a
situation
like
a
university
I,
don't
know
how
they
how
they
handle,
whether
they
buy
water
for
from
you
or
the
or
the
schools.
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What
the
what
y'all
can
bill
or
according
to
the
to
the
requirements
you've
just
charged
today
by
my
water,
use
or
quantity
of
water,
but
this
is
your
system
capable
of
adding
another
criteria
in
there.
Assuming
that
the
council
wants
to
have,
you
know
different
rate
systems
for
the
irrigation,
or
is
that
a
new
programming
change?
It.
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Could
it
has
to
be
volume
integrate?
We
could
have
a
separate
rate
structure
for
irrigation
because
that's
the
separate
bill
going
in
and
the
programming
will
be.
You
just
change
the
number
you're.
Maybe
the
minimum
now
like
the
minimum
bill.
A
minimum
charge
gives
you
two
thousand
gallon,
that's
something!
Maybe
we
look
at
a
minimum
irrigation
say
if
you
have
irrigation
meter
for
residential,
we
look
at
you
up
to
ten
thousand,
but
we
we
do
like
$20
or
$25
anything
over
that.
Then
you
you
pay
the
thousand
gallon
the
volume
integrate
same
thing.
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That's
what
I'm
saying
in
other
words
I'd
say,
for
example,
you
have
a
commercial
tract,
that's
having
to
irrigate.
You
know
twenty
thousand
square
feet,
and
then
you
have
a
commercial
track.
That's
irrigating
ten
thousand
square
feet.
Can
the
system
work
to
where
you
say
a
20,000
square
feet
requires
you
know
X
amount
of
water
to
keep
the
you
know
the
vegetation
alive
so
that
in
the
system
it
designates
it
as
a
as
a
10,000
square
foot
site
and
then
once
that
exceeds
you
know,
20,000
gallons
or
30
thought
whatever.
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Know
the
volumetric
rate
actually
based
on
the
meter
size.
So
people,
if
you
need
to
irrigate,
say
20,000
square
feet.
You
definitely
need
a
bigger
size
meter.
You
probably
will
have
a
one
and
a
half
inch
to
two
inch
meter.
Then
you
have
a
4,000
square
feet
long,
so
the
volumetric
strains
are
charged
based
on
the
meter
size
and
so
the
smaller
meter
size
you
are
like.
The
residential
home
has
5
8
and
3/4
inch
meter,
which
charge
you
like
10
dollars,
which
keeps
you
2,000
gallons.
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E
But
I
mr.
chairman,
if
I
may
I
think
that
we
we
start
talking
about
the
irrigation
because
of
the
street
yeah
I
I,
don't
I
don't
see.
Even
if
we
raise
the
rate
people
who
has
bigger
loans,
they
will
be
not
stopping
irrigating.
I
I,
don't
know
how
much
I
guess
we
need
to
look
at
our
irrigation
ordinance,
how
much
teeth
we
have
and
how
we
enforcing
it
instead
of
I
mean
even
if
you
raise
the
rates
a
now
you
paying
say,
$20
$30.
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Done
enough
and
there's
some
stuff
in
there
that
that,
probably
if
it's
not
getting
if
it's
not
getting
enforced,
then
it
probably
shouldn't
be
in
there
and
there's
there
some
stuff
in
there
that
some
of
the
inspections
and
I
can
either
because
there's
no
enforcement
of
it.
Then
you
know
why
have
it
and
why
have
it
in
the
ordinance?
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It's
a
component
of
it
and
as
a
component
of
it
is,
is
maybe
changing
some
of
the
some
of
the
requirements
of
what
they
can
install
and
in
those
areas
which
we
I
guess.
At
the
very
first
meeting,
there
was
a
discussion
of
just
having
irrigation
or
drip
drip
systems
if
you're
in
the
right
of
and
I
can
stuff.
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But
so
obviously
we
do
need
to
address
what's
happening
in
the
right-of-way
and
what's
happening
in
the
front
yards
or
any
landscaping
like
if
you
have
a
double
frontage
blocked.
I
would
think
that
whatever
requirements
we
have
in
the
front
yard
could
be
in
the
back
yard
so
that
we
try
to
stay
away
from
the
over
or
the
run
out,
because
I
think
that
that's
where
the
problem?
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A
And
you
see
like
I've
seen
on
some
of
those
have
got
those
rotor
deals
and
the
whole
street
is
wet.
I
mean
it's
going
into
like
the
first
lane.
All
in
term
is
a
five
Lane,
five
lane
road
and
the
first
Lane
there
is
like
75%
when
it
and
then
you
have
already
a
depression.
You
know
in
that
in
that
section,
so
I
think
you
know
yeah
there's
the
same
as
banish
those
evil.
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They
all
suppose
II,
listen,
I,
think
I,
think
this
needs
to
address
both
commercial
and
residential,
and
maybe
it's
a
combination
of
increase
rates
to
where
it
gets.
If
the
the
irrigation
is
excessive,
that
the
bill
gets
excessive,
so
they're
just
you
know
something
that
people
are
going
to
want
to
adjust
the
timer
or
maybe
set
the
timer
twice
unless
less
amount
of
time,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that
Charlie
had
mentioned
at
one
of
the
meetings
that
I
think.
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A
Maybe
do
four
minutes,
you
know
and
then
later
in
the
day,
do
another
four
minutes
so
that
if
that
water
doesn't
doesn't
run
out
and
maybe
by
by
having
a
steeper
escalating
rate,
then
people
will
look
at
their
bill
after
ample
notice
of
you
know
letting
people
know
that
rates
are
going
to
be
up,
check,
check
their
systems
and
all
that
stuff
that
they'll
go
in
there
and
adjust
their
their
irrigation
patterns.
They.
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Do
you
find
me
if
we
look
at
more
breakdown
on
the
commercial,
the
fifty
percent?
Let
me
go
back
and
see
how
many
are
more
than
one
hundred
thousand
gallon
Harmonia
more
than
five
hundred
thousand,
maybe,
and
so
it
will
become
now.
I
only
did
four
thirty
thousand,
because
my
understanding
was
mostly
we
talking
about
residential.
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E
We
doing
a
rate
study
for
the
water
and
sewer,
but
that
doesn't
include
a
separate
irrigation
rate.
It's
mostly
one
rate,
but
if
that
is
the
wish
of
the
committee,
I
can
tell
the
consultant
look
at
it.
It's
a
great
structure
for
irrigation.
Looking
at
some
other
cities,
maybe
San
Antonio,
some
other
city
who
has
water
conservation,
which
restricts
deep
water
use.
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A
I
guess
in
if
there
is
that
recommendation,
I
think
it
seems
to
me
like
it
has
to
be
based.
The
building
has
to
be
based
so
that
it's
equitable
seems
to
me
like
it
has
to
be
based
on
you
know.
If
somebody
has,
you
know,
like
the
the
university
has
a
lot
of
green
space.
You
know
that
they're
they
have
to
have
a
minimum
amount
of
water
to
keep
it.
H
The
solution
I
liked
best
was
was
a
drip
system
in
the
right
away
and
or
zero
scaping,
and
that
because
what
feeds
the
one
that's
been
pushing
the
whole
thing
and
that
serves
as
a
buffer
to
keep
the
water
off
the
roads
and
and
looking
at
rates
down
flip-flopping
on
you,
I
think
you
like
the
water
and
like
everything,
green,
they
don't
care
because
$200
a
month
more,
you
know
they
got
a
daily
gardener.
You
know
fifty
bucks,
the
so
I
think
the
demands
Allah
is
is
inelastic.
H
There's
certain
I
think
the
solution
then
and
they're
Gators
that
were
here
same
degrees,
is
have
a
have
that
buffer
in
the
right
of
way,
but
also
seems
like
Korea
for
you
that
that
that
people
are
getting.
You
know
the
irrigation
water
too,
cheap.
It
seems
like
it
can
be
also
a
source
of
revenue.
Besides
just
whiting
people,
you
know.
H
Rates
on
the
people
of
the
irrigation
system,
the
trouble
hasn't
been
for
as
long
as
I've
been
through
the
utility
fines
and
for
years
we
could
never
attach
right.
It's
it's
all
the
the
people
that
they
can't
afford
in
the
irrigation
system,
when
you
start
messing
with
their
their
water
is
sort
of
building
that
start
raising
hell
with
their
City
Councilmember,
but
that
as
soon
as
r22
says,
I
think
the
best
thing
we
can
do
it
is
put
a
buffer
and
said
you
ride
away.
Keep
the
water.
A
I
How
are
you
keep
water
off
the
streets
and
I
know?
This
is
one
it's
trying
to
change
behavior,
but
I
think
the
new
paving
ordinance
is
going
to
affect
all
of
the
new
subdivisions
going
forward.
So
maybe
we
should
focus
on
what
we
can
do
to
pair
up
with
that
and
say:
okay
and
all
the
new
subdivisions
going
in.
How
can
we
change
or
how
can
we
fix
the
irrigation
portion
of
it?
So
it
doesn't
mess
up
the
streets
that
we're
we're
gonna
be
building
under
the
new
ordinance.
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A
Another
I
guess
my
my
thought
process
on
this
thing
is:
if
somebody's
using
over
you
know
sixteen
or
twenty
thousand
gallons,
that
it
should
get
exponentially
higher.
That's
that's
my
thought.
So
long
as
it's
equitable
and
it's
not
equitable,
then
you
know,
then,
because
the
system
is
not
capable
of
it,
but
I've
been
saying
about
increasing
the
rates
in
the
in
the
irrigation
for
a
long
time.
I
disagree
with
Dan,
yet
I
think
when
you
hit
people's
pocketbooks,
they
come
out.
Fighting
that's
been.
My
that's
been.
A
My
experience
is
any
time
that
you
reach
into
somebody's
pocket.
There
they're
upset,
but
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a
reasonable
deal
and
they
can
irrigate
their
land
with,
you
know,
20,000
gallons
and
you're
not
affecting
them.
You
know
it's
a
matter
of
adjusting
their
their
system
checking
their
system.
You
know
in
an
annual
basis
or
then
I
think
it's
a
fair,
fair
deal
because
I
saw
a
picture.
They
mean
that
water
will
travel.
You
know
six
or
seven
blocks
from
somebody.
That's
over
six
or
seven
blocks
it's
over
irrigating
and
then
along
the
way.
A
C
Like
to
ask
at
the
comment
that
I
agree
with
mr.
chair
here,
where
we
came
up
with
different
options
of
how
we
could
change
you
ordering
sand
and
irrigating
is
the
right
away
area.
And
you
know
everybody
had
different
ideas,
and
we
said
you
know
what,
instead
of
regulating
that
that's
higher
the
rates
and
come
up
with
a
number
so
where
they
can
self-regulate
and
we're
not
regulating
on
what
they're
doing
on
on
equipment
and
they're
irrigation
systems.
C
E
If
you
look
at
the
rate
structure,
anybody
in
residential
use,
more
than
thirty
thousand,
they
already
paying
$5
four
thousand
gallons.
The
rates
start
at
dollar
98.
But
then
anytime,
you
are
over
30,000
you
paying
$5.
So
these
are
some
of
those
they
don't
mind
paying
you
$5.00.
How
much
you
want
to
increase
because
there's
a
say
what
mr.
chairman
say:
they
love
the
lawn,
they
don't
mind
paying
extra
30
40
bucks.
There
are
some
ladies
told
me:
these
are
my
babies
I,
don't
mind
paying
$200
irrigation
bill.
F
We
done
and
last
time
we
had
a
meeting
and
you
will
have
some
very
good
figures.
You
were
talking
about
the
number
of
people
that
are
abusing
the
system
or
the
number
of
people
are
using
excessive
amounts
of
water
and
the
percentage
of
abusers
that
we
have,
based
on
the
percentage
that
you're
mentioning
are.
G
F
There's
something
wrong
somewhere
and
so
no
I
don't
believe
we
should
punish
everybody
just
for
the
sake
of
those
people
that
are
abusing
or
I'm,
not
even
aware
that
they're
using
that
much
water.
It's
amazing
that
we
have
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
hear
your
figures,
because
I
think
you
had
some
excellent
figures
a
lot
of
time.
You
know
that
I
don't
believe
in
punishing
everybody
in
the
city
for
raising
all
the
rates
for
everybody,
because
some
people
are
abusing
the
system.
F
G
F
Think
it's
another
problem,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear,
but
I
I
know
that
you
had
some
very
good
figures.
Last
time
and
I
wanted
everybody
to
hear
those
figures,
and
you
know
like
mister,
get
it
on
he's
having
to
see
it
all
the
time.
Looking
at
all
it,
how
many,
how
many
violations
do
you
see
where
there's
water
running
on
the
street?
C
Why,
the
last
time
during
the
meeting
we
came
up
with
a
mathematical
equation,
or
we
said
you
know,
sixty
five
hundred
square
foot,
Lots
22,
22
hundred
square
foot
home-
and
we
said
you
know
what,
if
you
had
Bermuda
grass,
how
much
water
would
you
need
to
irrigate
that
property?
And
we
came
up
with
that
with
the
average
amount
of
16,000,
gallons
and
so
I?
Think
Maria
was
gonna
come
up
with
some
sort
of
okay?
Well,
you
should
be
okay
with
16,000,
because
that's
that's
the.
C
If
you
go
beyond
that,
you're
gonna
pay,
another
rate,
and
so
everybody
gets
gets
hit
the
higher
rate
proportionately
to
their
lot,
because
the
bigger
lot
needs
a
bigger
meter.
So
you're
gonna
use
a
more
volume.
You
know
you
need
more
water
in
your
irrigation
system,
so
he
was
gonna,
come
up
with
the
numbers
to
present
what
he
thought
would
be
justifiable
for
everybody
with
different
life
sizes,
not
just
the
little
guy
gets
taxed
the
same
amount
as
as
the
other
guy
are
using
twice
as
much
as
water.
It
was
gonna,
be
proportionate
with.
I
All
due
respect
to
all
my
colleagues
and
everybody
else
on
here,
I,
don't
know
how
much
y'all
pay
for
a
water
rate
study
but
I'm
sure
it's
in
the
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
like
real
just
having
real
specialists
that
are
experts
at
doing
that.
I,
don't
think
we're
qualified
didn't
come
up
with
some
kind
of
random
rate
study
scheme
and
and
I
think
if
the
rates
do
go
up
in
the
context
of
what
I
think
we
were
supposed
to
be
looking
at
I
mean.
I
The
only
thing
that
would
make
sense
is
that
it
was
raised
to
raise
enough
money
to
be
able
to
create
that
water
cop
position
again
to
have
actually
somebody
out
there
policing
what
we're
trying
to
prevent,
instead
of
kind
of
arbitrarily
trying
to
come
up
with
some
kind
of
rate
deal
to,
hopefully
that
you
know
it'll
curve
people's
behaviors
enough
to
prevent
the
deterioration
of
streets,
then,
which
I
agree
with
this.
We
can
do
I,
don't
think
that's
the
whole
problem,
I
mean.
E
Mr.
chairman,
if
you
look
at
the
the
table,
I
provided
so
you're.
Looking
at
50
percent
of
thirteen
hundred
thirty
two
hundred
accounts
of
fifteen
hundred
people
be
looking
at
a
high
user
of
the
irrigation
system,
and
is
it?
Is
it
really
worth
it?
I
kind
of
agree
with
mr.
come
to
punish
everybody,
because
of
because
we
have
75,000
customer
and
we're
looking
at
very
small
number
of
people.
I
mean
we
we
can.
We
can
definitely
look
at
a
number,
but
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
irrigation
ordinance.
The
whole
thing
as
a
package.
A
F
Right
I
have
a
problem
right
now,
there's
a
leak
somewhere
in
the
plumbing
in
this
in
this
in
the
in
the
subjugation,
you
know
that
somewhere
we
haven't
been
able
to
find
it.
There's
a
plumber
looking
into
that
problem,
but
you
all
notified
me:
hey,
there's
something
wrong
here.
So
if
you
do
not
find
those
1500
people,
hey,
there's
something
wrong
your
house,
if
you're
using
that
much
water,
you
know,
maybe
we
can
definitely
it's.
A
The
margin
there's
that
forty
percent
or
whatever
it
is
it's
thirty
thirty,
seven
percent
and
those
address
a
different
rate
structure
for
the
thirty
percent
that
are
using
over
the
twenty
thousand
gallons.
That
would
be
kind
of
like
the
motion
and
those
great
looking
look
at
looking
at
at
a
different
race
structure
for
those
users
that
are
consuming
more
than
twenty
thousand
gallons
of
water
and
a
multi
basis,
and
that
sixteen
thousand
I
know
it
was
just
off
the
cop
off
the
cuff,
but
I
think
it
had
a
150
percent.
K
L
K
Grass,
you
know
Alana
me
now
when
it
comes
to
the
big
commercial
properties.
You
do
have
a
two-inch
meter,
but
that
two-inch
meter
can
be
servicing
almost
200,000
square
feet.
You
know,
because
you
can,
you
can
water
them.
You
know
one
day
and
then
the
next
day,
another
section
so
you
know
another,
a
certain
algorithm
or
a
certain
equation
has
to
be
placed
there.
You
know
as
to
commercial
properties,
to
relieve
base
it
on
the
square
foot
that
is
getting.
I
I
do
think
the
issue
in
the
right
away.
One
one
guy
pays
for
the
one
guy
pays
to
install
the
landscaping
and
another
guy
pays
for
the
water
going
typically
like
in
a
subdivision.
The
developer
might
pay
for
some
of
the
landscaping,
but
then
the
HOA
typically
takes
over
the
the
water
bill
or
a
builder
landscapes,
and
then
so
there's
kind
of
a
disconnect
there
between
water
rates
in
encouraging
some
kind
of
xeriscaping
that
I
go.
There
almost
needs
to
be
an
incentive
for
xeriscaping
itself,
separate
from.
F
A
Was
one
of
the
other
comments
was
possibly
in
conjunction
with
rate
increase
that
temporarily
there
be
some
big
incentives
for
you
know
for
xeriscaping
and
that
gets
faced
off.
You
know
fairly
quickly.
It
seems
to
me
like,
on
your
chart.
None
of
the
water
rates
did
you
have
in
here.
You
already
have
a
break
up
for
the
first,
twenty
thousand
gallons,
there's
two
six,
it's
four
or
six.
That's
so
you
already
have
your
at
to
twelve
for
the
first
twenty
thousand
gallons.
A
So,
if
we
were
to,
if
were
to
address
the
rate
structure
above
the
to
twelve
leave
the
first,
the
first
for
the
first
four
categories
by
themselves
on
the
residential
and
then
just
hit
the
next,
you
know
the
next
four
categories
with
a
you
know
with
an
aggressive
you
know,
increase
in
the
in
the
rate
structure
and
sixteen
thousand
gallons
is
already
a
very
generous
amount
for
the
for
the
landscaping
under
extreme
other
extreme
conditions.
Then
people
who
will
probably
not
be
impacted
if
they
had
just
the
way
they
water.
F
F
Own
systems,
because
we
do
we
meet
myself,
setting
myself
as
an
aggregator
I
set
my
system
at
a
certain
hydraulic
and
by
the
time
I
get
it
going.
This
is
a
24
gallons
I'm
what
he
used
in
that
one
irrigation
process
and
I
bought
there
as
a
homeowner,
I'm,
gonna,
change
it
and
that's,
what's
causing
the
problem
to
go
in
and
increase
our
also
our
pain.
So
what
we're
gonna.
C
That
was
the
whole
thing.
Is
that
we're
talking
some
some
numbers
I've
said
well
we're
punishing
the
little
guy.
Well,
we're
already
punishing
them,
because
they're
paying
for
all
city
of
Laredo
is
paying
for
additional
damage
streets,
so
I
mean
it's
a
huge
problem
right
now,
so
we're
already
punishing
everybody.
The
thing
is
that
we
had
discussions
about
how
we
regulated.
We
couldn't
come
up
with
a
decisive
way
of
handling
that
without
imposing
strict
regulations.
So
we
said
you
know
what
raise
the
rates
and
let
it
self-regulate.
L
Parral
everybody
everything
right
now,
it's
the
high
cost
of
living
very,
but
it's
super
high
I
do
believe
in
the
buffer
zone
that
we
need
to
create
a
zone
where
we
can
keep
water,
especially
irrigation
water,
off
our
streets,
especially
when
you're
driving
around
subdivisions-
and
you
can
see
at
night.
People
are
watering
or
subdivisions
the
common
areas
are
being
water.
Even
after
a
flush
rain.
L
You
can
see
the
water
is
going
down
and
and
I'm
bigging
trying
to
conserve
water
for
generations,
down
the
road
and
and
I
believe
that
we
should
focus
on
creating
some
kind
of
a
buffer
zone,
and
maybe
we
can
start
on
a
residential
site
to
create
like
a
drip
system.
But
if
you
guys
implement
something
like
that,
the
drip
system-
it's
it's
not
that
simple
to
to
install
somebody
with
the
proper
experience
have
to
know
what
he's
installing
you
have
to
be
proper
inspected.
A
drip
system
have
come
a
long
way
from
10
years
ago.
L
I've
been
installing
drip
in
MIT,
ihnen,
San
Antonio,
and
even
here
in
the
radome
and
I,
see
how,
if
you
it's
done
correctly,
I've
seen
how
effective
it
can
be
from
keeping
water
runoff
erosion
from
onto
our
streets.
You
know
it
will
it'll,
be
more
money
to
the
consumer
to
developer,
but
I
believe
in
the
long
run
in
the
long
long
haul.
It
will
be
a
lot
more
effective
to
prevent
from
our
streets
our
rig
traps
and
our
curbs
of
giving
way
for
poor
water,
especially
undermining
our
sub
surfaces
and
stuff.
L
Like
that
also
have
you
tried
implementing
some
kind
of
an
inspection
for
the
homeowner
every
quarterly
report?
I
know
we
have
something
for
the
double
check.
Every
year
in
Sperry
your
inspection,
somebody
has
to
go
out.
There
inspect
your
double
check
to
protect
your
water
supplies
and
all
that
may
be
offering
incentives
to
the
homeowner
every
three
months,
not
every
month,
but
every
three
months
to
go
out.
There's
hire
a
professional
to
go
out
there.
L
A
simple
report
you
check
for
rent
stat
if
it
rains
it
turns
off
your
contributor
controller,
make
sure
that
the
controller
is
adjusted
for
proper
seasoning.
If
it's
winter,
like
mr.
Santo,
says
you're
going
to
water
it.
If
it's
summer,
you
upgrade
to
the
proper
requirement
to
the
landscaping.
A
lot
of
people
have
a
lot
of
grass
or
a
lot.
People
have
beds
a
lot
of
people
have
a
mixture
of
of
granite,
stone
and
sod,
and
all
that
you
know
because
I'll
see
a
lot
of
stuff.
Is
that
people
don't
really
inspector
irrigation
system.
L
Every
caller
reports
to
hire
somebody
and
when
they
get
their
bill,
they
can
stick
it
in
there
in
the
bill.
Maybe
the
city
can
give
them
up
a
time
of
15
$20
credit
down
the
road.
You
know
every
three
months
and
mr.
wires
you're
right
about
grading
some
kind
of
a
buffer
zone,
because
by
doing
that
and
doing
the
system,
property
or
maybe
not
using
sprays,
sprays
are
very
old
technology.
Now
you
think
there
are
like
MP
rotors
and
all
that
that
they're
more
better
for
wind
erosion
and
stuff,
like
that.
L
That
will
help
up
the
system
a
lot
and
we'll
try
and
keep
minimize
our
waters
going
to
the
streets
and
all
that,
because
you
know
it's
very
hard
to
come
up
with
a
formula.
Okay
like
me,
and
my
house:
I
do
I
love,
trees
and
shrubs,
and
flowers
and
I.
Try
and
minimize
the
grass
areas,
I
create
more
beds
and
but
I've
seen
a
lot
of
my
neighbors.
L
L
A
L
You
have
like
the
MP
rotors,
you
know
and
you
can
match
them
with
sprays.
The
convection
rollers
you
can
dimension
with
the
with
drip
system,
depend
on
the
ganas
you'll
be
using
if
it's
MP
depended
on
the
space
and
all
that
what's
an
MP
MP
rotor
is
like
it
looks
like
it
goes
on
top
of
a
spray
head.
It
looks
like
a
spray
head,
but
it's
not.
It
really
looks
like
a
multistream
rotor
head
and
I
can
show
you
what
I'm
talking
about.
You
know
they're
very
efficient,
because.
A
H
Well,
anyway,
she
nobody
some
button
plus
guys.
It's
British
system
tell
his
father
how
he
was
out
working
it
when
he
was
a
skinny
little
kid,
and
so,
if
anybody's
you
know
the
business
or
we're
talking
about
before
it's
great
see
again,
because
that's
your
family
is
in
that
strut,
right
away,
not
have
any
type
of
sprinkler
heads,
either
a
drip
system
or
zero
skate
and
I
think
they
already
have
that
in
San.
Antonio
picked
up
well.
A
H
Mr.
con
tus
point
I
agree
with
them.
The
one
feel
strong
about
it.
Too
often
we
pass
ordinances.
One
mistake
happens
in
the
whole
city
that
gets
penalized
for
it
up
our
ordinance
books.
Well,
the
postage
ordinance
are
passed
when
there's
there's
one
big
mistake:
fountain
we
need
to
over
overreact,
but
I
think
a
better
than
P
rollers
in
the
front
yard,
but
in
the
right
of
way,
I
think
it
from
all
of
this
and
to
it
it
should
be
either
the
drip
system
which
is
going
to
cost
more
money.
H
H
That
we
fought
against,
and
everything
like
that
the
city
always
brings
up.
Will
they
do
it
in
San
Antonio?
When
we
tell
them,
we
don't
care
what
they
do
in
San
Antonio,
but
in
this
case
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
what
the
Austin's
and
the
San
Antonio's
do,
because
they
they
have
the
same
issue
that
we
do.
F
L
F
J
A
E
A
E
A
On
the
other,
just
for
the
sake
of
comparison
on
those
sixty
some
thousand
accounts.
What
would
it?
How
does
that
chart
if
you
were
to
plot
a
chart
based
on
you
know,
if
you
were
to
plot
the
same
chart,
the
water
use
their
water
use
on
those?
What
would
you
see
the
same
percentages
as
far
as
or
would
it
be?
Fewer
people
in
the
thirty
thousand
category
will
be
fewer
people.
The.
E
E
A
Ever
southern
the
the
average
or
the
median
they
have
halfway
are
using
less
than
eight
thousand
and
the
other.
Now
we're
not
talking
about
dressing
those
accounts,
but
at
least
that
gives
us
a
clue,
because
I'm
gonna
say
that
there's
a
bunch
of
irrigation
systems
out
there
that
are
tight,
somehow
legally
or
not
to
the
you
know,
with
a
backflow
preventor
and
all
that
stuff
that
are
already,
you
know,
consuming
more
because
it'd
be
saying,
there's
four
thousand
accounts
that
are
consumed
either:
thirty
thousand
gallons.
A
E
I,
don't
have
a
separate
irrigation
meter,
but
I
use
a
heavy
irrigation
system,
so
I
use
average
like
ten
thousand
gallons
so
I
don't
see
to
get
spend
another
25
or
$3,000
to
get
an
irrigation
meter.
I'm,
not
gonna
break
even
in
life's
577
years.
But
yes,
if
my
bill
was
three
$400.
Definitely
and
those
are
the
choice
people
make
because
it's
the
economy
to
why
you
want
to
invest
money
on
irrigation
meter
when
you
saving,
say
10
bucks
a
month
for
20
bucks
a
month.
The.
G
F
Mean
that
doesn't
sound
like
me
if
the
issue
started
with
we're
dealing
with
this
issue,
because
we're
concerned
about
the
street
right.
Actually,
we
were
not
concerned
our
consumption,
but
we
should
be
concerned
about
consumption
too.
You
know
it's
saving
water
conservation,
you
know,
but
he
started
with
this
brief.
The
reasons
ridiculous
to
say
that
for
five
percent
of
people
that
have
meters
or
destroying
streets
of
Manila.
A
H
H
C
H
You
know
at
five
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
finally
hell
out
of
the
people
you
know
and
and
they're
you
they're
you're,
punishing
the
people
of
the
perpetrators
and
not
the
the
other
90%
of
the
citizens
that
are
that
are
taking
care
of
their
their
watering
right,
but
I,
think
new
subdivisions
and
I
think
we're
gonna
find
out
in
the
state
new
subdivisions
and
I'll.
Tell
you
I'll
make
some
calls.
Also
new
subdivisions
are
required,
some
type
of
buffer
in
the
right
of
way
and
I
think
it
for
new
subdivisions.
C
Some
couple
points
to
point
out,
because
somebody
had
just
made
the
comment
that
we
pass
ordinances
without
you
know
thinking
it
through
and
stuff
and
I
also
think
it's
the
other
way
around.
We
don't
we're
not
listening
to
directors,
we're
not
listening
to
the
people
who
are
actually
manage
managing
this
on
a
day
to
day
basis
and
two
meetings
ago,
both
director
Orfila
and
Maria
Sol
mentioned
that
you
know
what
it's
almost
impossible
to
regulate
people
that
maybe,
if
we
raise
great,
they
would
just
regulate
themselves.
C
I,
think
that
was
what
started
the
whole
rate
conversation
I,
don't
think
any
of
the
committee
members
brought
that
up
and
then
furthermore,
two
meetings
ago,
mr.
leonidas
said
that
that
the
ordinance
points
out
that
the
building
department
needs
more
staff
to
provide
the
adequate
enforcement,
the
current
code
ordinance.
Thirty
one
point
one,
forty
one
point:
twenty
nine
says:
if
a
meter,
backflow,
preventor
or
irrigation
system
is
found
to
leak
on
the
private
side
of
the
property
owner
will
be,
we
issued
a
written
warning
for
failure
to
repair
a
control
leak.
C
Failure
to
repair
a
leak
after
the
second
time
will
come
will
constitute
a
citation
and
incur
the
penalties
established
in
this
plan.
So
the
codes
are
already
well
defined
that
literally
not
as
I
mentioned,
there's
not
enough
staff
to
enforce
a
lot
of
what's
going
on
right
now
with
in
regards
to
the
leaks,
so
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
the
the
conversation
with
the
rates
started
with
the
directors
and
we're
just
trying
to
listen
to
stock
to
see
what
they
wanted
to
do.
A
K
A
F
Educated
people
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
can
have
so
we
can
have,
because
we
have
three
ones
that
people
can
call
me
and
we
can
have
to
get
them
to
be
calling
on
three
one
one
we
get
those
coming
in,
not
only
the
building
apartment.
What
every
department
in
the
city
go
ahead.
It
gets
that
report
and
inspectors
go
out
and
check
that
out.
Okay,
I'm,
not
you
were
saying
you
know
I.
Unfortunately,
sometimes
we
need
more
staff
to
go
ahead
and
do
that.
F
But
no
utility
department
has
people
that
police
run
also.
So
we
try
to
work
with
each
other
to
make
sure
that
we
try
to
get
the
customers
satisfied.
But
here
again,
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
find
a
way
to
educate
them
could
be
a
lot
faster
to
go
ahead
and
have
them
calling
on
a
three
one
one
so
that
we
can
reporting.
A
Problems
feeling
of
communication,
so
I
guess
we've
discussed
this.
Is
there
a?
Is
there
a
motion
to
ask
staff
to
consider
a
rate
structure
for
those
users
that
are
consuming
over
20,000
gallons,
which
there's
going
to
be
fewer?
There
I
think
there's
fewer
people
that
are
consuming
over
20,000
gallons
of
water,
which
does
not
affect
the
salarino.
It's
not
going
to
affect
the
average
person.
That's
using
10,000
gallons
is
twice
the
twice
the
amount
of
the
average
user.
A
L
C
Only
because
I'm
going
back
to
two
means
ago
when
it
to
amend
the
motion
and
to
add
that
director,
you
notice
also
supply
some
type
of
information
on
what
staff
he
actually
needs
to
be
able
to
enforce
the
current
ordinance
and
to
be
part
of
the
review
of
the
rate
structure
is
I.
Think
it's
if
that
we've
always
talked
about
that.
It's
a
it's
a
it's,
a
component
of
different
items
that
we
have
to
look
at
and
I
think
that
is
a
very
important
one,
because
they'll,
probably
this
brought
up
right
now.
C
The
whole
thing
about
enforcement
directors
and
not
hasn't
mentioned
that
he
does
not
have
the
adequate
stock
to
cover
the
whole
city
of
Laredo.
The
way
he
should
to
enforce
the
current
code.
So
that's
problem
number
two,
so
we
can
look
at
those
two
items
effectively.
Maybe
we
can
make
a
better
decision
as
a
whole
lake
motion
motion.
A
We're
not
asking
to
modify
the
rates;
in
other
words,
we
want
status
quo
to
all
the
people
that
are
being
vigilant
with
their
meters,
but
if
it
was
me
and
I
was
the
only
decision
maker
I
would
make
it
addressed
aggressively
expensive
for
those
abusers
of
the
system
so
that
when
they
get
their
bill
with
communication
ahead
of
time,
obviously,
in
other
words
take
this.
This
is
coming
up.
You
know
your
bill
can
double.
A
You
know
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
not
adjusting
your
your
system
and
that
kind
of
stuff
to
work,
okay,
20,000,
20,000
gallons
is
enough
to
irrigate
a
large
home
site
and
people
are
using
30
and
40,000
gallons.
Then
you
know
there
should
be
some
self
regulation
to
where
it's
like
I,
like
my
homeowners,
when
they
talk
about
their
their
air
conditioning,
they
tell
me
well
what
temperature
should
I
put
my
thermostat
I
tell
them.
Well,
you
know
you
start
at
78.
You
look
at
your
bill.
A
E
A
What
I'm
suggesting
is
it's
communication
system
yeah?
What
I'm
suggesting
is
that
staff
make
a
recommendation
to
for
a
new
rate
structure
for
those
consumers
that
are
taking
more
than
20,000
gallons.
It
can
be.
Maybe
it's
ten
dollars,
it's
maybe
the
first
rate
structure
is
fine
and
then
the
next
ten
thousand
gallons
that
goes
to
ten,
maybe
the
next
ten
thousand
dollars
it
goes
to
fifteen
I.
Don't
know
what
that
numbers,
what
the
number
is,
but
so
that
it
can
be
a
deterrent.
A
F
F
C
H
A
C
I
B
You're
gonna
have
to
do
is
kind
of
like
enough
FTE
analysis
pretty
much
for
both
full-time
equivalent,
but
the
one
of
these
components-
usually
it
always
becomes
with
with
budget.
So
it's
something
that
we
also
need
to
relate
also
with
the
city
management.
Also,
so
it
doesn't,
they
don't
get
off
guard
on
on.
You
know
that
were
requesting
positions
or
anything
like
that.
So
it's
something
that
we
do
need
to
tell
you
Maul
so
with
with
them
and
so,
but
will
certainly
present
something
of
a
concept
of
regards
to
to
their
request.
A
D
I
mean
my
comment
is
really
you
know
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
what
mr.
come
to
heating
up
too.
Is
that
we're
looking
at
doing
something?
That's
really
gonna
address
one-and-a-half
percent
all
users.
So
where
may
work
we're
considering
looking
at
something,
that's
only
gonna
address
or
hit
one
and
a
half
percent
of
the
64,000
residential
leaders.
So
is
it
really
worth
the
effort
in
the
time?
Let
me
make
another
coming
to
was
I
kind
of
I.
Think
that's
kind.
F
F
It's
so
easy
to
have
somebody
his
tab.
You
know
take
a
few
every
month
and
or
whatever
and
say,
hey
we're,
gonna
hit
you
or
gonna
penalize
you
or
we're
gonna
do
something
to
because
you
see
you
see
that
cuz,
you
sorry,
my
system,
you
say
something's
wrong
right,
and
so
somebody
notified
me
about
it.
So
you
already
have
a
system
that
can
deal
with
it.
I
D
I
J
E
I
I
A
lot
of
water
he's
not,
he
might
not
be
messing
up
the
streets,
which
is
what
we're
trying
to
prevent
I
mean
you
could,
since
it's
only
a
thousand
guys,
and
we
know
who
they
are.
We
have
their
addresses.
You
know,
let's
just
go
and
look
at
200
houses
and
see
whether
or
not
that's
truly
the
problem
guys
over
20,000
square
feet
if
those
guys
are
messing
with
their
street,
so
we're
looking
at
water
conservation
ever
that's
a
totally
different
issue.
G
H
That's
a
very
political
issue,
and
things
like
that.
This
that
see
councils
this
all
involved
around
the
French
train,
which
was
not
a
practical
economic
reason
that
they
wanted.
The
Public
Works
wanted
installed
on
all
air
gate
lines.
Rather
it
could
be
15
dollars
a
foot,
so
it
wouldn't
it
wasn't
a
practical,
and
so
we
told
city
council
would
can
the
idea
of
french
drains.
H
We
would
figure
out
a
buffer
system,
and
so
I
think
our
our
our
our
time
and
energy
ought
to
be
coming
up
with
the
buffer
system,
a
better
sprinkler
heads
for
the
front
yard
and
an
enforcement
and
and
believe
the
right
system
alone.
I
mean
I,
don't
mind
getting
this
study
done,
but
it
does
seem
like
we're,
we're
missing
the
enforcement
and
a
buffer
system
and
that's
what
the
City
Council
wanted.
C
G
C
Want
to
add
something
real,
quick
and
the
thing
is
it's
at
one
percent,
because
currently
right
now
we're
the
dental
users
are
tapping
into
the
domestic
meter.
We
need
to
get
them
off
of
the
domestic.
Sometimes
they
don't
even
have
a
backhoe
preventer.
We
need
to
get
them
back
on
an
irrigation
meter,
and
maybe
we
can
step
out
there's
some
sort
of
incentive
to
get
them
off.
C
The
domestic
aunt
irrigation
and
the
rate
still
go
up,
so
they
have,
to
kind
of
you
know,
work
with
their
systems
and
make
sure
it's
working
appropriately
work
with
dr.
Danada
sand
and
seeing
that
we
can
get
you
know
the
council
can
get
him.
The
staffing
needs
to
enforce
the
codes,
but
to
say
that
you
know
we're
not
going
to
move
this
motion
because
it's
only
affecting
one
percent
is
missing.
The
point
that
the
other
98%
99%
are
on
the
domestic
meter
and
they
shouldn't
be
on
a
domestic
meter.
We're.
G
I
C
A
I
C
C
H
A
B
E
H
Well,
my
motion
would
be
that's
mr.
leonidas
to
come
up
with
what
additional
step
we
have
to
force
that
for
enforcement
for
the
next
meeting.
Let
me
ask
you
in
the
in
the
present
landscaping
ordinance.
Does
it
address
the
issue
of
a
people
of
water
runoff
from
people's
yards
I?
Think
it's
it's
up.
You
know
the
type
of
plant
you
use
and
all
this
other
stuff,
but
I
think
what
I'm
looking
for
to
give
the
city
the
better
count.
Another
City
Council
they're.
B
Because
when
it
comes
maybe
to
enforcement,
there's
there's
maybe
two
parts,
there's
I
know
we
do
have
the
water
cops,
which
is
the
water
conservation,
and
then
we
have
the
other
enforcement
where
they're
pretty
much,
neither
for
doing
a
legal
work
or
or
when
one
of
the
other
factors
that
is
on
the
ordinance
is
the
timing
on
the
under
irrigation.
So
one
component
that
I
would
wish
to
suggest
is
maybe
like
a
public
service
announcement
on
regards
to
that
component
as
an
extra,
not
not
that
it's
the
solution.
Yes,.
M
A
A
A
A
Hasn't
died
because
we've
been
discussing,
we
hadn't
had
a
second,
so
he's
making
a
second
amen.
If
you
amend
your
motion
to
to
just
look
at
the
rate
structure,
in
other
words,
proposal
rate
structure
for
those
users
that
are
consuming
more
than
you
know,
so,
there's
already
a
second.
If
you
just
take
up
the
staffing
component,
though,.
C
There
are
some
ice
percent.
My
motion,
but
I
will
add
to
Tuba
nice
comment
that
I
agree
with
you
Benny
hundred
percent,
but
oftentimes
we've
heard
it
from
landscapers
that
there's
not
enough
enforcement
that
there's
a
lot
of
leakage
and
we've
heard
it
from
director
United.
But
the
thing
is
so
you
know
what
I'm
in.
B
There's
any
change
of
ordinance
that
requires,
let's
say
more
work
from
from
our
department.
Pretty
much
yes,
Benny's
right
for
Vermont
from
our
and
we're
gonna,
pretty
much
try
to
make
the
argument
hey.
You
know
what
we're
gonna
be
getting
more
work
and
then
during
the
budget,
and
that's
why
I
was
trying
to
make
comments
about
the
city
managers
because
I
mean
specifically
I
have
to
be
direct
communication
with
them,
that
it's
a
writing
budget
purposes
that
I'm
able
to
get
that,
but
pretty
much
whatever
work.
B
K
C
M
C
Is
one
of
the
best
departments
in
original
and
I?
Don't
want
to
talk
about
the
fire
department
that
they
have
people
look
at
their
equipment
that
you
call
them
they're
there?
You
know
as
quick
as
anybody
else
will
be.
Why?
Because
they're
there
they've
got
they've
got
staff
they've
got
money
and
we
want
to
get
better,
but
you
don't
want
to
help
them
guys
out,
because
you
know
their
hands
are
coming
off.
We've
got
a
double
it.
M
A
H
E
A
I
want
to
make
you
aware,
if
you
need
technical
assistance,
to
check
your
system,
we're
available
to
check
your
you
know
to
to
coordinate
something
to
send
somebody
out
there
to
help
you.
You
know,
look
at
your
your
system
or
there's
a
here's,
the
list
of
the
hundred
irrigator
Xin
talent,
so
that
you
don't.
So
if
you
don't
have
a
you
know,
so,
if
you
don't
get
surprised
with
with
a
with
a
bill
and
I
think
we
need
to
conserve.
H
A
H
Me
ask
you
this
little
and
Binnington
to
experience
with
working
actually
inside
the
city.
Can
we
come
up
with
a
recommendation
that
we
think
of
the
building
water
department
needs
allocation?
Our
needs
needs
to
be
put
into
the
budget
more
money,
more
enforcement
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
within
our
scope.
We
make
a
recommitment
to
them
or
just
make
a
recommendation
ever
and
and
then
call
our
City
Council
members.
I
was.
G
J
I
What
Danny's,
trying
to
say
is
I
can
every
single
time
that
we're
reviewing
ordinances
as
a
blanket
statement.
We've
noticed
that
there's
a
lack
of
enforcement-
and
you
know
that's
a
major
cause
of
because
a
lot
of
the
rules
are
already
on
the
books
as
far
as
keeping
water
right
away.
You
know
he's
not
enforcing
them,
because
you
know,
because
you
know
folks
being
understaffed.
I
F
We
were
to
make
a
motion
and
address
this
issue
already
and
put
it
to
rest.
You
know
people
who
want
to
talk
about
raising
water
right
anymore,
as
it
is
people
all
over.
The
city
are
complaining
and
we're
paying
to
what
for
warrants
sure.
Okay.
So
when
you
talk
about
water
rates,
people
get
excited,
they
get
Norberto
yeah.
They
want
to
pay
anymore
know.
A
F
F
H
A
No,
it
goes
back
to
the
back
to
the
point
on
on
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
in
the
in
the
ordinance,
if
they're
stuff,
in
the
ordinance
that
were
not
going
to
enforce,
because
it's
not
practical
to
enforce
it,
then
it
shouldn't,
be
it
shouldn't
be
in
there
just
from
it's,
not
practical,
enforce
it
with
would
be
existing.
You
know
with
the
existing
people
and
it
shouldn't
be
in
the
ordinance,
because
then,
all
of
a
sudden
become
selective,
selective
enforcement
and
that's
another
complaint.
Is
that
they're
selective
you
know?
A
So,
let's
move
on
to
getting
the
irrigators
back,
because
I
I
know
that
there's
been
some
concerns.
I
know
that
out
of
those
had
mentioned
a
concern
about
just
having
drip
only
in
the
in
the
front
yards
and
and
and
right-of-ways
and
I
think
you
know
you
had
some
concerns
about
that
as
well.
Does
anybody
else
have
concerns
about
just
having
a
drip
system
in
those
areas?
And
if
you
do
have
a
concern,
do
you
want
to
provide
an
alternative
to
those
two?
Those
two
that.
A
D
If
anybody
else
wants
to
speak,
just
raise
your
hand
I'm
just
saying
I
think
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
y'all
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
drip.
Irrigation
is
a
very
specific
component
of
like
low
water,
irrigation
systems
right
so
again,
kind
of
going
back
to
how
we
address
the
pavement
thing.
I,
don't
think
I
want
to
necessarily
say
drip
irrigation,
but
maybe
we
can
call
it
low
water
irrigation,
because
I
think
that
gives
the
irrigators
Morse
code
Morse
code,
more
hey.
D
We
can
do
this
and
we
can
do
that
and
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
still
meets
what
we
are
looking
for.
You
know
what
it
is
I
do
the
same.
How
we
address
I
think
the
pavement
issue
with
the
pressure
you
know
kind
of
give
them
give
the
designers
more
of
a
because
if
you
specifically
safe
trip,
that's
only
one
component
of
a
low
water
usage
system,
so
I
mean
I
just
want
to
make
that
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
more
I
think
to
me.
K
And
I'm
gonna
echo
exactly
what
you
should
be
termed
something
like
low-flow,
irrigation
or
low
quality
of
irrigation,
because
there
are
a
wide
array
of
different
devices
that
can
be
used
for
different
situations
and
I.
Just
think
that
you
know
we
should
have
like
I
said
the
the
the
necessary
discretion
to
use
whatever's
going
to
be
the
best
for
that
particular
application,
or
that
particular
area
that
we're
gonna
be
watering
or
yeah
what
happened
and
also
efficient,
efficient
irrigation
which
a
chart
that
we
have
they're.
All
the
results
for
those
specific
types
of.
B
And
and
one
suggest
thinking
that
that
I
could
make
I
guess
work
for
time
sake.
We
can
try
to
have
a
maybe
direct
us
to
have
a
meeting
with
the
irrigate
errs
I'm
just
ourselves,
and
we
can
invite
a
committee
member
to
just
to
have
a
friendly
conversation
because,
like
that,
we
can
score
out
a
lot
a
little
technical
and
what
practicality
weekend,
maybe
percent
for
the
next
meeting
as
the
low
water,
generally
speaking,
the
low
water
usage
and
maybe
try.
We
sent
that
for
the
next
meeting.
I
like.
B
H
It
takes
care
of
the
book,
but
we
want
to
talk
about
those
watering
in
the
front
yards
I
know
San
Antonio
they
and
with
Lowe's,
as
a
program
was
where
they
get
but
higher
class
sprinklers
in
the
front
yard.
Because
what?
If
you're
back
20
years
ago
when
I
did
walk
early
in
the
morning,
a
lot
of
the
water?
The
links
came
from
a
broken,
broken
sprinkler
heads.
H
A
L
A
When,
when
the
meeting
happens,
there's
some
items
in
its
far
as
the
as
far
as
the
inspection
is
concerned,
and
it
calls
for
basically
two
inspections.
Well,
I,
guess
three
right:
there's
the
the
backflow
prevention
and
then
there's
a
pre,
backfill,
inspection
and
I,
don't
think
the
pre
backfill
inspection
is
being
done
at
all
right.
F
A
May
be
just
monitoring
the
language
on
that
on
that,
on
that
one
particular
the
one
particular
item
and
I
think
the
other
two,
your
fear
discussion
about
the
education
and
all
that
other
stuff
I
mean
it
was
clear
in
here
that
there's
supposed
to
be
a
maintenance,
you
know
requirement
for
the
system.
That's
supposed
to
be
handed
to
every
you
know
to
every
consumer
once
that
system
is
delivered
to
them.
That
tells
them
how
to
how
often
to
to
check
it.
F
F
A
F
F
Here
again,
no,
no!
No!
That's
why
I
said
we
can
also
on
the
paperwork
we
can
also
put
on
their
oil
consumer,
saying
you
know
what,
from
here
from
here
on
in
mm-hmm,
acknowledging
that
you
have
already
received
this
paperwork,
knowing
that
you
are
responsible,
do
it
for
the
upkeep
of
your
irrigation?
Okay,.
F
A
A
A
B
What
I
wanted
to
do?
Just
brief.
Just
give
you
a
brief
background
of
how
this
this
item
initiated
pretty
much.
Generally
speaking,
we
for
residential,
we
have
20
foot
setback
on
the
front
10
on
the
back
and
pretty
much
they're
looking
into
having
more
flexibility
where
the
owner
is
able
to
pretty
much
construct
more
more
within
their
limits
of
their
property.
These
are
just
examples,
nothing
nothing
set
but
set
in
stone,
but
like
let's
say,
for
example,
on
the
a
lot
of
our
typical
front
yard
violations
have
to
our
car
ports
or
pretty
much.
B
B
But
but
do
we
do
note
that,
there's
you
know
front
utilities
and
other
components,
and
so
that's
why
we
invited
some
other
staff
and
when
it
comes
for
fire.
Also,
when
it
comes
for
the
setbacks,
we
do
have
them
ap
present,
they
could
provide
maybe
some
feedback
on
the
Ruhr
part,
but
that
that's
kind
of
the
gist
of
the
thing
they're
just
trying
to
see.
What
can
we
be
more
flexible
with
her
for
the
homeowner
is.
A
B
But
one
of
the
when
it
comes
for
the
typical
violations
are
when
it
comes
for
the
front.
Setback
have
been
the
car
ports
where
the
building
up
to
the
property
line
when
it
comes
for
the
rear
it
has
been,
which
this
is
more
of
a
fire
which
we
will
be
pretty
strict
about,
is
the
spacing
of
the
a
lotta
structure.
The
second
dwelling
to
the
to
the
first
onee.
B
So
there's
been
issues
with
that
spacing
the
other
common
item
that
goes
with
the
BOA
which
actually
the
BOA
doesn't
support,
is
when
it
comes
to
violations
on
the
utility
easements
when
they
built
on
top
of
the
utility
easements.
So
I
know
that
itself
won't
be
something
pretty
much
that
we
wouldn't
go
recommend
to.
A
B
And
then,
when
it
comes
for
the
enclosures,
usually
there's
generally
speaking,
we
do
see
a
lot
of
them
homeowners
trying
to
do
additions
to
their
property,
and
so,
when
you're,
trying
out
that
extra
bedroom
or
room
to
their
house,
we
do
have
that
type
of
foot
setback
and
so
that
kind
of
restricts
them
from
bringing
doing
that.
So
we've
kind
of
just
general
comments.
I
I
couldn't
provide
to
us
that,
because
it's
it's
really
more
of
an
inquiry
that
comes
that
we
see
a
lot
from.
Are
we
actually
the.
I
M
H
Problem
our
problem
is
in
the
old.
This
comes
from
the
down
Rodriguez
in
his
area
and
a
lot
of
these
people,
the
inspector
struggling
I'm,
looking
for
certain
things
and
a
lot
of
invested
in
it
on
the
standard
setback
requirement,
our
new
ones,
I
agree.
We
got
there's
some
other
dimensional
standards
or
some
others
on
the
Johnny
and
I
think
it
should
be
discussed
and
made
in
the
next
meeting,
but
yeah.
M
I
had
no
problem
because
we
know
our
booth
said
a
lot
of
people
came
across
and
they
wanted
to
build
a
carport
off
from
the
program
and
all
the
houses
in
that
block
already
had
cardboard.
You
know
it
was,
but
just
a
carport.
If
you
move
that
house
closer
what
happens,
people
will
start
parking
in
the
street
and
that
impede
the
flow
RFID
equipment
in
there.
We
have
a
subdivision
here
in
town
for
trouble
mentioned,
but
they
can't
even
get
the
garbage
trucks
in
there
to
collect
the
trash.
G
F
B
H
A
A
B
A
J
M
On
existing
subdivision,
there
is
a
footnote
on
the
table
or
the
setbacks.
All
right
that
says.
If
there
are
other
houses
within
the
same
block
that
do
not
meet
the
setback,
then
you
can
go
to
the
average
setback,
but
not
more
than
50%
of
the
required
setback
and
that's
an
automatic.
That's
only
a
lot
of.
A
A
J
I
J
And
you're
punishing
me,
because
of:
are
you
doing
brick
that
could
happen
in
front
of
my
art
when
the
utility
line
is
across
the
street
is
not
even
on
my
line
on
my
site
and
so
I
can't
build
my
my
cardboard
and
they're
really
known
everywhere.
You
go
you
find,
and
you
know
what,
even
though,
that
they
get
denied,
you
know
they
pop
up
everywhere
and
so
and
that's
why
we're
proposing
that
there's
some
conditions
that
customer
needs
to
build
apartment.
Okay,.
J
C
A
G
A
F
G
J
M
D
F
M
A
A
Then
you
can
only
go.
If
it's
20
feet,
you
can
only
go
ten
feet.
If
you're
a
detached,
then
you
can
go
fifty
percent
in
the
you
can
you
can
get
as
close
as
two
and
a
half
feet
in
the
back,
but
since
the
utility
easements
are
six
feet
you
have
to
separate
and
addition
to
that,
then
you
have
to
be
separated
five
feet
from
the
I
marry
you,
but.
I
I
C
I
I
M
B
This
is
a
concept,
and
this
is
something
also
that
you
know,
let's
say,
for
instance,
I
know
readjust
stepped
out,
but
like
rear
for
utilities.
You
know,
like
hey,
there's
this
concept
of
effect.
Yours
are
concerned
like,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
an
initial
talk,
it's
not
too
much
said
and
so
on,
but
it's
an
initial
concept
because
we
do
want
utilities.
J
B
A
Know
on
the
right
now
we
have
a
20
foot,
building
setback
across
the
board
and
all
the
yards
I
didn't
realize
that
there
was
a
I've,
never
seen
it
and
the
land
development
code
that
you
can
go.
You
know
five
feet
or
10
feet
away
from
the
back.
I
think
everything
that
I've
seen
is.
Is
that
you,
if
it's?
If
it's
a
livable
space,
you
can't
get
any
closer
than
20
feet.
A
A
Diversity
right,
no,
it's
like
a
consideration
to
be
able
to
utilize
more
of
the
you
know,
more
of
the
land
give
the
people
an
opportunity
to
be
in
more
control
of
the
property
that
they
invested
in
and
if
there
is
no
issue
being
10
feet
away
from
the
property
line.
Why
can't
we
move
that
structure
or
add
a
bedroom
for
mom
and
dad
to
come
to
come
move
in
because
we've
got
an
extra
10
feet
in
the
back?
We
can
make
a
room
10
by
12.
B
B
A
Long
as
you're
addressing
the
parking,
in
other
words,
if
you,
if
you
have
a
garage
you
have
to
put
that
structure
you
have
to
allow
for
20.
You
know
you
still
need
to
have
your
for
your
two
cars
and
have
the
garage,
but
there's
also
that
extra
space
in
the
front.
So
we
can
put
you
know,
putting
a
little
bedroom
in
the
front
of
that
of
that
yard.
Still
allow
for
your
toys.
E
A
C
G
B
A
H
A
For
living
for
living
areas,
provided
that,
if
it's,
if
you're
utilizing
a
10-foot
setback
in
the
front,
you
still
have
to
meet
the
parking
requirements
just
like
you
have
to
meet
when
you,
when
you're,
when
you're
doing
a
two-car
garage
that
you
have
to
meet
that
you
still
have
to
have
two
cars
parked
outside,
even
though
you
have
your
two-car
garage.
So
what
I'm
suggesting
for
consideration
is
a
10
foot,
10
foot
and
then
taking
the
consideration.
Anything
exists
for
the
existing
subdivisions.
Is
there
any
requirements
or
if
you
have
overhead
power
I
can.
H
H
A
A
The
only
reason
for
the
template
setbacks
in
the
back
is
right.
Now
we
have
greater
parking
requirements
for
those
apartments.
So
if
you
have
a
20
foot,
building
setback
on
an
r3
zoning-
and
you
want
to
do
4
units-
you
can't
do
for
you-
it's
because
you
don't
have
enough
parking
space,
so
we
have
a
10-foot
building
set
back
in
the
back.
Then
now
we
allow
for
maybe
two
more
parking
spaces
in
the
front.
So.
A
F
F
You
had
some
very
good
point
by
the
way,
the
that
the
fact
that
land
is
getting
to
be
so
expensive
and
we're
limiting
our
taxpayers
from
what
they
can
do
in
their
property.
You
know
we
need
to
allow
to
do
even
more
and
what's
happening
right
now.
That
you
mentioned
was
that
people
are
doing
additions
to
the
property
without
permits,
so
I
mean
if
we
allow
to
do
this
thing.
G
M
A
About
a
younger
generation
mother-in-law
or
I'm,
just
I'm,
just
you
notice
from
our
standpoint
of
being
able
to
utilize
a
whole,
the
whole
property
and
if
you've
got
that
extra
space
that
in
the
front
and
they
can
put
a
10
by
10
room
and
they're
a
10
by
12
room
in
there
and
the
front.
Yeah
I
had
no
problem
with.
J
B
The
other
component
also
that
that
I
do
want
to
just
in
case,
so
we
don't.
We
won't
invite
also
planning
just
in
case
there's
the
comprehensive
plan.
There's
there's
other
components:
that's
not
we're
focusing
right
now
on
the
building
code
and
which
I
think
we're
getting
along
the
same
page,
but
there's
also
the
planning
concept
and
they're
really
neat
yeah.
We
really
need
that
component
kind
of
address
that
that's
the
one
that's
gonna
be
a
bit
more,
have
more
sense
of
it.
Yes,.
A
Issue
at
least
Mario
Pena
brought
it
up
to
me.
He
talks
about
minimum
setbacks
and
there's
a
terminology
out
there
that
there's
a
no
he's
not
been
was
like
maximum
setbacks.
You
know
is
that
there's
a
terminology
out
there
that
you
can't
be
further
than
you
know
ten
feet,
there's
that
there
are
some
requires.