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A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
Tuesday
June
6
2023
city
council
meeting
before
we
get
started,
I'd
like
to
have
a
moment
of
silence
for
Troy
Morgan
and
condolences
to
his
family
Troy
passed
away
early
this
morning.
As
you
know,
he
was
the
director
of
Jefferson
County
EMA,
but
he
served
on
city
council
before
that
and
was
also
our
County
coroner.
He
literally
dedicated
his
life
to
public
service
for
the
city
of
Madison,
Jefferson
County.
So
if
you
would
please,
let's
have
a
moment
of
silence
in
memory
of
Troy
Morgan.
A
B
D
C
E
A
A
I
any
opposed.
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
recognize
our
guest
tonight,
commissioner
Robert
little
Bobby
if
you'd
like
to
come
to
the
podium.
I
know
that
you
wanted
to
maybe
address
council
tonight
and
you're
welcome
to
do
so
at
this
time
or
you're.
Welcome
to
wait
to
the
later
in
the
meeting
under
public
comment.
It's
up
to
you
all
right!
Thank
you,
sir
Chief
Kenny
washer
and
commissioner
Robert
little.
G
G
Also,
the
city
of
Madison
employs
always
pitch
in
and
let
us
use
their
equipment
and
thank
you,
mayor,
Courtney,
who's
all
supported
us.
Unfortunately,
he's
worked
a
gate
with
my
wife,
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
he's
really
got
his
eyes
open
there.
They
do,
but
he
shuttled
car
show
attendees.
So
thank
you
to
him.
Thanks
to
John
Wallace,
Sheriff
Flint,
who
were
in
the
attendance
and
their
office
officers,
were
there.
G
We
had
an
older
couple
who
had
their
car
in
the
show,
and
they
made
a
comment
that
they
felt
secure
and
it
was
a
good
Forum
to
all
the
unnamed
volunteers
who
donated
their
time
to
make
the
show
happen.
G
Thanks
to
all
the
businesses,
large
and
small
who
have
Faithfully
donated
each
year
to
help
us
continue
to
grow.
Most
of
all,
thanks
to
the
residents
of
Madison,
who
have,
to
my
knowledge,
not
complained
when
they
get
invaded
by
cars
and
their
neighborhoods
are
are
uprooted.
This
year
we
had
633
cars,
go
through
the
gate,
so
we've
evidently
done
something
right,
but
thank
you
all
for
allowing
us
to
grow
and
continue.
Kenny
got
anything.
H
No
I'll
just
Echo
what
commissioner
little
said
thanks
everyone,
the
show
has
continued
to
grow
each
and
every
year
the
mayor
asked
me.
We
had
633
cars
this
year.
Mayor
asked
me
at
the
end
of
the
show
he
said:
how
are
you
going
to
Top
This
I
said
700
next
year.
G
A
A
So
an
organization
of
six
people
bringing
a
an
event,
a
unique
event
to
Madison's
Riverfront
that
really
kicks
off
the
summer
that
had
record
number
of
630
cars
and
is
second
only
to
Chautauqua
in
attendance
throughout
the
course
of
the
Year.
This
year,
through
our
the
data
collection
and
Tony's
back,
there
I
believe
we
had
27
000,
unique
visitors
and
over
30
000
over
the
course
of
the
weekend,
and
you
have
a
one
day
event.
A
So
this
also
place
that
our
city
staff
also
added
to
the
flavor
of
the
event
with
movies
in
the
park.
That
was
also
very
well
received,
and
then
our
downtown
merchants
and
visit
Madison
and
the
tourism
apparatus
here
in
the
city
hosted
them
when
they
weren't
down
there.
You
know
looking
at
the
hot
rods,
so
I
think
it
was
a
community-wide
effort
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
vision
and
bringing
it
here
and
all
the
work,
especially
Janine
right
for
making
sure
it
all
went
smoothly
and
Kim.
G
I
A
H
A
Six
weeks,
you
really
did
I
would
be
down
there
at
night
and
you
guys
were
up
there
on
a
lift
up,
making
sure
you're
getting
the
wiring
in
place
for
speakers,
and
it
was
just
an
all-around
fun
event.
I.
A
As
we
move
through
the
agenda,
we'll
also
ask
Council:
before
we
get
to
reports
of
City
officials,
are
there
any
reports,
recommendations
or
other
business
of
standing,
select
committees,
City,
Council?
A
Okay,
now
we'll
move
on
I'll
introduce
Dewey
O'neill,
who
is
here
who's
our
code
enforcement
officer
enjoying
his
18-month
anniversary,
I
think
and
he'll
give
us
an
update
on
blight
and
he's
joined
by
our
planning
director
Nicole
shell.
C
J
J
So
far
to
date,
I
have
had
113
new
cases,
but
I'm,
currently
working
190,
actually
196,
probably
actually
over
200
as
of
today,
because
I've
had
some
more
today
Active
cases
that
includes
unsafe
structures,
though
not
just
nuisance
cases,
so
the
percentage
that
we're
actually
down
year
to
date
is
probably
less
than
that
49.
J
It
is
just
early
growing
season
or
starting
of
the
growing
season,
so
I'm
sure
the
grass
and
weeds
will
pick
up
quite
quickly,
but
primarily
I've
seen
trash
abandoned
in
junk
vehicles
and
then
some
unclean
and
disorderly
premises,
stuff
too
so
we'll
go
through
some
of
that
and
what
I'm
about
to
show
May
disturb
the
10
000
folks
that
led
the
mayor
or
others.
So.
J
These
are
some
issues
photo
on
the
top,
or
the
left
to
your
left
is
quite
a
quite
a
mess
additionally
front
porch
on
the
bottom
right.
J
Most
of
these
things,
I
should
say
have
been
abated,
can
I
just
click
back
to
go
back
to
the
back
one?
Okay,
the
the
top
left?
If
you
see
that
is
something
that's
going
to
be
a
continuous
abatement
process,
we
had
some
volunteers
from
Ivy
Tech
in
mid-april
late
April
that
helped
us
with
that.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
continuous
thing.
It's
a
it's!
A
flooding
issue,
I,
don't
think
it's
a
intentional
dumping
issue,
but
you
do
see
it's
kind
of
blocked
out,
but
there
is
a
sofa
there.
J
J
J
Grass
and
weeds,
like
I
say,
is
starting
right
now
that
is
actually
I
just
inspected
today.
So
we'll
get
that
taken
care
of
here
in
the
next
few
days.
Certainly
by
the
end
of
the
week
on
the
bottom
right
is,
has
been
fixed
and
abated.
J
J
Thank
you,
young
lady.
No
I
apologize
all
right.
Let's
talk,
neglected
vacant
abandoned
and
unsafe
structures.
Initially,
when
I
started,
we
and
I
say
we,
the
building
inspector
and
I
Came
Upon,
or
identified
roughly
100
plus
structures
within
the
city
limits
that
were
per
the
unsafe
Building
Law,
which
is
what
we
use
considered
unsafe,
we're
working
on
more
appropriate
definitions
for
that.
Nicole
may
speak
about
that,
but
we're
working
on
a
a
vacant
and
abandoned
ordinance
that
will
correctly
identify
or
label
particular
properties.
J
J
J
What
were
what
I'm
attempting
to
do?
What
we're
attempting
to
do
is
move
from
this
a
rough
graphic
here,
but
you
we
find
things
that
are
unsafe
and
unhabitable
and
we
want
to
take
them
from
an
abandoned
vacant
and
neglected
status,
obviously
to
something
that
is
safe
and
habitable,
and
the
two
areas
that
we're
working
on
is
the
abandoned
and
vacant
area,
and
we
we
are
working
on
that
with
Nicole
and
I
are
working
on
that
to
create
the
vacant
and
abandoned
ordinance
and
I'm.
Certain
we'll
we'll
hear
about
more.
K
J
That,
yes,
sir
yep,
okay,
we're
going
to
go
through
about
10
10,
different
properties
that
we
consider
we'll
say
the
worst
of
the
worst,
but
they're
certainly
certainly
in
need
of
attention,
and
these
are
those
properties
and
we'll
go
through
each
one.
Craigmont
Street
Elm.
Third,
not
all
of
these.
In
fact,
just
one
of
them
is
inhabited
at
the
moment,
one
of
them
actually
two
of
them
are
not
even
houses
but
they're
structures
that
are
definitely
unsafe
and
we'll
go
through
that.
J
This
is
319
Craigmont
Street,
just
south
of
Main
Street
West
Main
Street.
We
initially
did
an
inspection
there
in
August
and
in
January
the
building
inspector
issued
what
we
call
a
five-day
letter,
which
requires
the
owners
to
contact
us
to
determine
what's
happening
at
the
location.
We've
had
no
response
there
and
we
will
be
seeking
what
we
call
an
inspection
warrant
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
look
at
what's
happening
with
the
structure.
This
is
the
only
inhabited
structure
that
we
know
of
right
now
on
this
list.
J
This
is
what
is
known
as
the
Humes
home
or
709
Elm
Street.
This
property
has
been
on
building
inspectors
radar.
Since
almost
10
years
again,
we
issued
a
five-day
letter
back
in
August
in
January,
Mr
Jenner
sent
an
attorney
letter
to
them.
We
did
initially
or
finally
meet
with
them
in
February
and
in
April
a
notice
was
given
to
correct
the
issues
within
60
days
and
we
are
still
waiting
to
see
what
happens
there.
J
This
is
not
a
residence,
but
you
wouldn't
know
this
is
there
unless
you
traveled
down
the
alley
between
Main
and
third
yeah,
just
north
of
the
red
roaster,
or
not
red,
roaster,
red
pepperoni,
and
all
that
yeah?
This
is
being
held
together
with
bungee
cords,
and
we
are
concerned
that
it
will.
J
It's
certainly
open,
as
you
can
see,
I
apologize
for
the
picture.
I
probably
should
have
taken
a
better
picture.
The
sun
glare
is
there,
but
it
is.
The
walls
are
going
to
fall
and
whether
it's
inward
or
outward
we
don't
know.
Certainly
the
alley
is
probably
not
that
well
traveled,
but
nonetheless
it's
it's
a
concern
for
us.
J
Yeah
776
with
West
3rd
Street,
we
have
had
a
number
I've
had
a
number
of
nuisance
cases
here
since
November
of
2022
in
February,
the
building
inspector
did
deem
the
structure
unsafe
we
were
allowed
in.
J
J
J
So
it
does
look
better
but
again
back
in
February
they
had
a
60-day
notice
to
to
correct
all
the
problems
or
demolish,
and
they
have
yet
to
do
that.
J
J
There's
activity
of
people
being
there,
but
I
have
no
way
to
know.
You
know
I
I
visit
it
once
a
week,
but
it
is
unsafe
from
the
standpoint
that
to
the
right
of
the
actual
home,
that's
about
to
fall,
there
may
be
one
or
two
posts.
Holding
that
up.
J
There
seems
to
be
I,
mean
I'm,
not
a
police
officer,
a
criminal
investigator
or
anything
which
seems
to
be
drug
activity
or
something
happening
there.
So.
J
J
Her
intention
is
to
demolish
the
unit,
but
again
since
February
attempts
to
reach
her
and
decide
what
they're
going
to
do
have
haven't
happened
so.
J
This
is
Banta
Avenue
also
on
the
hill,
not
a
residence,
but
you
can
see
the
severity
of
the
structure
leaning
backwards.
Good
news
is,
as
I
mentioned
yesterday
at
the
BPW,
that
it
is
far
enough
away
from
the
home
in
the
back.
As
you
can
see
the
gray
home
there,
it's
probably
not
going
to
impact
it,
should
it
fall,
but
it
it
in
fact
I
emailed
with
the
folks
today
regarding
this.
So
hopefully
we'll
have
this
taken
care
of
soon.
J
705
Walnut
Street
does
have
we
we've
met
with
the
owner.
We
did
inspections
there
actually
just
recently
and
you
can
tell
and
Tony
when
that
happened.
We
I
think
Thursday
or
Friday
of
last
week
we
secured
the
back
side
of
this
home
with
fencing,
correct
and
I
saw
that
today.
So
the
the
back
side
is
open,
there's
a
there's,
a
fairly
deep
pit
or
basement.
That
is
on
the
back
side
of
this,
but
all
work
and
Rehabilitation
has
stopped
due
to
some
conflict
between
the
owner
and
contractors.
J
J
524
Jefferson
same
owner
as
the
previous
slide.
Again,
it
doesn't
look,
doesn't
look
terrible
here,
but
the
building
inspector
did
demon
unsafe
60
days
back
in
January
I.
Believe
it's
the
in
the
back.
There
are
and
I'm
I'm,
not
the
building
inspector,
so
I
don't
know
the
technology,
but
in
the
back
in
the
flooring,
there's
some
issues
there
that
that
collapse
could
happen
again.
February
we
did
did
issue
that
notice
of
violation
to
get
it
corrected.
J
Moody
Park
is
perhaps
Mr.
Jenner
can
talk
more
if
that's
appropriate,
but
this
is
a
current
picture
just
last
week.
The
good
news
is
the
408
location
has
been
demolished.
The
owner
does
have
a
second
demo
permit.
That
has
not
has
not
been
completed
yet
I
believe
it's
412
or
4
14
is
the
right
address,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
much
more
I
can
comment
on
that,
but.
L
All
of
the
trailers
that
are
in
violation-
and
they
have
appealed
that
to
the
court,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
dealing
with
that
through
the
court
system
we
have,
we
are
looking
at
some
potential
negotiated
agreements
which,
if
that
happens,
it
would
come
before
the
council
and
the
Board
of
Public
Works,
but
we're
not
there
yet.
So
it's
just
going
through
the
process.
A
We
talked
about
yesterday,
Board
of
Public
Works,
that
this
is
a
very
important
process,
we're
going
through
it's
very
complicated
when
you
get
into
the
legal
aspect
of
it,
and
it
can
take
a
very
very
long
time,
but
to
just
re-emphasize
the
importance.
I,
don't
know
if
you
saw
last
week's
Courier,
but
there
was
a
an
article
in
there
about
a
building
collapse
in
the
heart
of
North
Vernon
in
the
news.
A
There's
stories
about
I
think
it
was
Iowa,
maybe
or
Idaho
that
had
another
major
building
collapse
on
top
of
the
one
that
happened
in
Florida
last
year.
It's
this
is
a
really
hard
initiative
to
get
ahead
of,
because
there's
so
many
properties
that
that
fall
into
this
unsafe
category.
The
important
thing
is
to
work
collaboratively
with
the
property
owners
that
is
working
in
tremendous
with
tremendous
results
through
our
PACE
program.
A
But
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
enforcement
side,
if
we
make
it
to
that
side
of
the
arc,
it
becomes
really
difficult
and
very
time
consuming,
but
we're
making
progress
and
we're
seeing
lots
of
investment.
We're
also
learning
a
lot
as
we
go
through
the
court
system,
but
that
also
increases
time
and
cost
right
now.
I'd
like
to
to
council
has
any
questions
for
Dewey
and
then
I
know
that
there
may
be.
Someone
in
the
audience
would
like
to
ask
a
question,
and
let's
do
it
that
way?.
A
M
J
Yeah
certainly
I
rely
upon
my
historic,
preservationist
and
and
Nicole
to
to
direct
me
there,
but
sure
I
mean
it's
hard
to
1809
right
I'm,
not
a
I'm,
not
a
native
sorry,
but
so
don't
hold
that
against.
J
Okay,
all
right
so
certainly
there's
going
to
be
I
mean
I
I
would
I
would
say
that
there's
historic,
you
know
significance
to
everything.
That's
been
around
200
plus
years
on.
M
Those
what
is
the
possible
proposal?
Maybe
selling
them
for
a
dollar
a.
M
So
there's
the
long
process.
Yes,
okay,
what
would
what
would
bring
it
to
the
point
of
of
rising
it
tearing
it
down?
L
I
mean
if
you
get
if
it
gets
to
the
point
where
it
is
deemed
unsafe,
then
we
have
to
go
through
a
process
before
the
Board
of
Public
Works
and
then
the
Board
of
Public
Works
can
determine
the
level
of
unsafeness
and
determine
whether
it
needs
to
be
torn
down
if
it
needs
to
be
boarded
up.
If
it
needs
to
be,
you
know,
taped
off
or
or
whatever,
in
order
to
ensure
safety,
so
that
people
are
not
going
in
there
and
if
the
answer
is
tear
it
down,
then
I,
then
we
can
do
so.
L
However,
it's
at
the
expense
of
the
city-
and
it
can
only
be
done
and
then
you
still
don't
get
ownership.
It
just
places
a
lien
on
the
property
and
so
oftentimes.
You
know,
frankly,
we
just
have
to
make
an
economic
decision
as
to
whether
it
makes
sense
because
it
isn't
cheap
to
tear
things
down
and
what
is
the
ability
to
have
it?
L
L
Well
again,
it
still
wouldn't
be
City
ownership.
It
still
is
owned
by
the
property
owner,
but
you
could
then
enforce
your
lien
and
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
sell
it
for
a
dollar
you
would
you
would
go
through
a
there
would
be
a
process
to
do
so.
You
could
foreclose
on
the
property
to
recoup
your
money
on
the
lien.
L
You
know
and
there's
a
whole
other
set
of
things
involved
with
that
is
there?
Are
there
any
other
liens
on
the
property?
Is
there
a
mortgage?
You
know
if
there's
a
mortgage
on
the
property
that
mortgage
is
going
to
be
in
front
of
of
any
kind
of
a
lien,
so
I
mean
there's
just
there's
a
lot
of
steps
and
a
lot
to
it.
L
That's
why
it's
it's
it's
a
fairly
laborious
process
to
do
so,
and
that's
why
I
would
and,
as
I
said
at
the
border,
public
worksmen
command,
Dewey
and
his
staff
and
Nicole
I
mean
they
think
they're
doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
trying
to
work
with
people
and
try
to
get
them
to
do
things
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
that
process.
That.
F
Mr
Mayor,
yes,
I,
think
in
in
light
of
her
question,
though,
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
mention
that
we've
had
at
least
one
got
right
off.
The
top
of
my
head
property
that
was
deemed
unsafe
and
the
property
owner
ultimately
was
able
to
sell
that
to
an
organization
which
then
came
before
the
pace
board
and
converted
a
tear
down
Pace
Grant
to
a
rehabilitation
Grant,
and
that
building
is
not
done.
But
it
certainly
is
a
process
that
they're
going
through
and
re
rehabilitating
it.
A
Tremendous
raising
property
values
making
them
safer,
reducing
you
know,
unsafe,
uninhabitable
housing.
The
goal
is
to
restore
these
properties
and
get
them
back
on
the
tax
rolls
and
lived
in,
but
also
hold
Property
Owners
accountable
along
the
way.
You
know
the
questions
for
duty
duty
move
on.
Thank
you
good
meeting,
you
all
thank
you,
and
next
up
I'll
introduce
Emily
McKinney,
who
is
here
to
talk
about
our
annual
tax
abatement
recommendations
and
she
is
with
our
Economic
Development.
I
Good
evening,
Council
I'm
Emily
McKinney
the
associate
economic
development
director
I'm
here
to
present
to
you
this
evening,
our
annual
tax
abatements.
We
have
six
current
tax
abatements
with
the
city.
We
have
Grody
Industries
U.S
Premier
tube
vsg,
which
is
vehicle
service
group,
The,
Cotton,
Mill,
Riverside,
Tower,
doing
business,
size,
Riverside,
Tower
apartments
and
the
trilogy
real
estate.
So
I'm
here
to
ask.
D
E
N
All
of
the
edas,
as
we
understand
it,
these
all
have
been
approved
before
of
any
councils
before
us
last
year.
First
time
that
we
went
through
this
in
a
couple
years
and
as
we've
reviewed
them
again,
the
economic
development
Agreements
are
all
based
upon
estimates.
Each
one
of
these
businesses
have
continued
to
grow
without
tax
abatement
in
our
community,
but
those
specific
agreements
that
previous
councils
have
have
set
us.
You
know
as
far
as
we're
concerned
these
these
corporations
have
met
and
continue
to
be
in
compliance.
They're.
D
Joe
since
I'm
an
employee
of
Grody
should
I
abstain
from
the
vote.
You
think.
A
L
L
Do
believe
that
we
have
an
amendment
that
has
been
presented,
and
so
that
is
to
add
to
98.20
section
d,
which
would
state
permits
shall
be
valid
for
a
period
of
no
more
than
90
days
until
work
commences
and
all
work
shall
be
performed
within
the
additional
90-day
period
unless
extended
by
the
Board
of
Public.
Works
and
safety.
Permit
must
be
posted
and
visible
on
the
job
site,
and
so,
if
we
could,
if
there
is
a
motion
to
amend
ordinance
number
2023-9
with
that
language,.
F
L
Hearing
no
discussion,
all
in
favor
of
the
amendment.
E
L
F
A
Council,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
a
remark
as
we
approve
this.
This
is
a
really
significant
piece
of
legislation.
It
is
going
to
reintroduce
I
should
say
a
permitting
process
and
an
inspection
process
well
as
a
warranty
process
for,
what's
that
perfectly.
A
For
a
excavation
in
our
streets
and
sidewalks
and
ride-aways
as
we
have
dug
through
this,
no
pun
intended
yeah,
you
know
we've
the
universe
of
excavations
that
have
happened
over
the
years
in
the
city
is
over
200
that
need
to
be
evaluated
for
completion,
repair,
removal
and
repair,
and
it
is
a
pretty
significant
work.
That's
going
to
take
several
years
to
correct
and
reverse
the
negative
trends
of
of
of
that
process.
A
A
Moving
on,
we
now
like
to
recess
the
council
meeting
and
call
to
order
the
public
hearing
regarding
regarding
ordinance
2023-10,
which
is
to
repeal
and
replace
the
garbage
collection,
ordinance
2013-2
with
respect
to
TSO
rates.
As
we
work
through
this
process
and
I
think
we
are
signing,
or
did
we
circulate
a
sign-in
sheet,
all
right.
Okay,
we
also
have
Gina,
Tony
and
Ken
washer
here
to
help
us
answer.
A
Any
questions
Council
might
have
as
we
open
this
up
for
discussion,
but
let's
recess
and
call
to
order
the
public
hearing
now
for
the
public.
A
Rumpke
is
obviously
one
of
the
largest
waste
management
companies
in
the
country
and
what
we're
now
doing
is
proposing
to
increase
the
rates
at
the
transfer
station
operation
and
a
few
nominal
rates
that
surround
garbage
collection.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
anybody
in
the
public
like
to
make
a
statement
with
regards
to
the
proposed
ordinance,
we'll
hear
those
now.
A
M
A
I'm
ready
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
we'll
move
we'll
reconvene.
The
city
council
meeting.
A
A
We
also
provided
a
history
of
ordinances
from
when
the
transfer
station
was
created
in
1985
recycling
program
began
in
the
early
90s.
There's
only
been
three
rate
changes
in
that
38-year
history
and
over
the
course
of
the
last
30
years
or
so
I
believe
our
transfer
station
or
our
average
rates
have
only
increased
modestly
on
a
weekly
basis.
So
you
had
Financial
projections,
the
last
council
meeting.
We
did
a
presentation
that
outlined
the
condition
of
the
facilities
and
Equipment,
which
are
aging
and
the
significant
deficits
that
are
being
incurred
in
order
to
support
the
operation.
A
D
I
guess
the
first
thing
is:
there's
section
see:
50.03
A2
we've
added
some
or
cleaned
up
some
of
the
language
there,
but
we've
left
it.
The
recyclable
should
be
picked
up
the
first
and
third
weeks
of
each
month.
A
Well
again,
a
lot
of
things
happen
over
time,
that's
in
contradiction
to
what
was
maybe
originally
set
up
and
intended
the
original
ordinance
that
was
approved
a
long
time
ago.
That
then
was
updated
in
2013,
with
new
rates
called
for
every
other
week
Recycling,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
continued
that
we're
just
saying
that
it's
we're
not
changing
the
ordinance.
We're
just
saying
it's
going
to
be
more
frequently
as
determined
by
the
Board
of
Public,
Works
and
safety.
There's
no
plan
to
change
the
frequency
of
the
recycling.
A
But
again,
this
is
all
about
the
value
service.
It's
all
about
evaluating
the
cost
of
service.
If,
if
board
Public
Works
determines
in
the
future
that
it
can
only
afford
to
pick
up
recycling
once
a
week
as
it
was
originally
intended,
then
it
would
have
to
have
to
make
that
change.
We're
not
recommending
that
change.
But
the
saying
is
that
the
flexibility
is
incorporated
to
pick
up
recycling
more
frequently
than
every
other
week.
D
D
D
And
then
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
length
restriction
of
the
Tso,
been
a
Dewey
I,
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
read
through
what
I
sent
over
but
did.
A
So
you
have
a
chance
to
read
that
our
staff
is
here.
They
can
address
the
the
length,
a
concern
that
you
and
Patrick
have
raised.
It
might
be
a
good
time
to
do
that
because
you
know,
as
there
there's
been
the
traditional
six
foot,
but
also
our
equipment
has
changed
since
2013
and
that
I
think
is
prompting
a
different
processing
mandated
by
Rumpke
at
the
TSO
chief.
H
Council
members,
the
major
reason
for
the
change
in
the
length
was
the
change
in
the
compactors
that
major
compact
side
and
the
new
compactor
on
a
recycling
side.
We
actually
have
those
on
a
four
foot
platform.
Now
we
lost
four
foot
of
depth
when
we
had
to
put
them
on
the
platform
so
that
they
would
fit
up
to
the
53-foot
trailers
that
were
Now
using
as
opposed
to
the
42-yard
compactors
that
were
set
on
the
ground.
H
Consequently,
we
have
lost
all
of
our
funnel
of
our
Hopper
and
we
have
lost
width
in
the
sides
by
doing
so,
most
contractors
bring
stuff
in
in
dump
trailers
and
with
the
six
foot
links
and
some
unfudge
a
little
bit.
They
don't
lay
it
in
there
straight
and
it
gets
twisted
and
putting
it
in
those
new
Hoppers.
It
is
an
absolute
mess.
H
We've
had
it
jammed
up
bad
enough
that
we
had
to
get
it
back
on
setup
on
top
of
the
I-beam
to
dig
it
out.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
avoid
and
to
keep
everything
moving
in
in
a
quick
back
in
a
quick
fashion.
We
are
only
talking
about
construction
material
in
that
we're
not
talking
about
a
couch
or
a
chair.
We
can
put
the
couch
or
a
chair
up
against
the
12
inch
concrete
wall
in
about
30
seconds.
We
can
reduce
that
calcium
less
than
less
than
its
length.
It
was.
H
A
A
D
A
D
Patrick
I
guess
in
hearing
Kenny's
feedback
there
I
think
I'd
reverse
it.
Leave
this
the
length
change
but
add
the
discretion
to
take
other
items
that.
D
So
basically
say
the
TSO
Personnel
May
accept
larger
items
at
their
discretion
if
they
believe
that
they
will
not
cause
damage
to
any
of
the
TSO
equipment.
I
can
write
that
down.
So
it's
clear,
but
do
you
have
an
issue
with
that
I
drink
no
I
said
I,
think
prep
a
practical
standpoint.
It
is
going
to
be
difficult
to
ensure
that
everything
that
comes
in
is
under
six
foot
in
a
lot
of.
A
We
can
look
at
the
suggested
language
and
bring
the
amendment
at
the
next
meeting.
If
that's
okay
with
you,
I'm,
okay
with
that
and
we'll
circulate
it
ahead
of
time.
D
The
last
thing
I
probably
should
have
mention
during
the
public
hearing
I
guess,
but
we
had
discussed
a
little
bit
about
adding
a
lower
minimum
charge
potentially
for
to
say
250
pounds.
For
instance,
do
we
have
any
idea
how
many
residents
bring
I
guess
loads
that
are
smaller
than
500
pounds
and
how
many
of
them
would
be
lower
than
250.?
So.
A
H
A
The
future,
as
we
talk
about
implementing
technology,
to
a
process
that
really
hasn't
changed
much
since
1985,
we'll
be
able
to
capture
that
information.
But
we
don't
have
the
information
right
now,
there's
a
very
manually
driven
collection
of
data
for
reporting
to
item
there
and
for
billing
purposes.
What
we
did
with
these
rates
is
we
took
the
per
ton
rate
and
literally
one-fourth
one
half
75
percent,
and
then
100
percent,
and
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
smaller
loads,
also
cost
more
to
process
yep
and
so
again.
D
Yeah
I'm
not
another
problem
with
the
rates.
It's
my
question
would
be
that.
Do
we
take
that
500
limit
down
to
a
250
minimum
limit
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
if
you
haul
a
couch
up
there,
it's
not
going
to
be
250
pounds,
usually
newer
ones,
with
the
electronics
with
the
motors
might
but
a
recliner,
or
something
like
that,
so
you're
going
to
pay
more
to
drop
it
off
the
Tso
and
haul
it
yourself
than
if
you
call
the
city
and
have
the
lightning
loader
come
and
pick
it
up.
Doesn't
there's.
A
A
disconnect
there
to
be
noted
what
I
would
say
here
is
you
know,
we're
trying
to
do
is
eliminate
a
pretty
substantial
deficit
and
we
can
get
creative
in
the
future.
But
when
we
get
some
more
and
better
information,
I
think
the
guy
to
guide
that
decision.
A
As
we
did
went
through
the
financial
projections
at
the
last
meeting
this
will
you
know
this
as
well
as
the
changes
we
made
moving
Staffing
over
to
streets
because
that's
funded
by
by
MBA,
we'll
probably
knock
about
I,
want
to
say
about
a
quarter
million
dollars
off
of
our
deficit,
but
we're
still
looking
at
it
for
projected
couple
hundred
thousand
dollar
deficit
this
year.
That
will
have
to
appropriate
for
it
and
address
address
on
how
to
fully
eliminate
the
deficit.
So
we're
we're
phasing
in
there's
been
a
lot.
A
But
I
think
I
think
start
restoring
some
of
the
solvency
to
that
operation.
It
will
take
investment.
Our
equipment
is
aged,
outdated.
It
is
very
manually
driven,
there's,
no
automation,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
consider
on
how
to
improve
the
operation
to
TSO
current
current
time
for
waste
removal.
L
D
L
So
I
think
Josh
had
a
motion
to
amend.
It
was
frankly
had
some
typographical
error
on
50.03
A2
changing
the
first
Tuesday
of
the
week
to
the
first
Tuesday
of
the
month.
Is
there
a
second
okay,
any
questions
or
discussion.
L
You're
hearing
none
that
moves
on
to
third
reading.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
I
know:
we've
had
some
public
comment
earlier,
but
before
we
close
out
today's
meeting,
we'll
open
up
to
public
comments
for
on
any
topic,
anybody
like
to
address
the
mayor's
office
city
council
Debbie,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
name
and
address,
and
push
that
button,
it'll
get
your
mic
on
there.
You
go.
K
I,
don't
have
my
glasses
on
y'all
I'm,
Debbie,
viewman,
I
live
on
Walnut,
Street
and
I
saw
a
proposed
thing
today
on
Facebook
for
the
Dollar
General
downtown
and
those
Dollar
Generals
have
groceries
in
them
and
the
Dollar
General
part
two
I
actually
lived
in
a
town
who
had
one,
and
it
was
very
nice.
K
Actually,
the
food
prices
were
competitive,
if
not
cheaper
than
Walmart,
so
I'm
here
to
say
that
I
have
a
neighbor,
an
electrical
wheelchair
and
she
can't
get
up
to
the
hill
and
I
called
her
and
told
her
about
this,
and
she
was
almost
crying
that
she's
so
excited
about
this.
So
I
know
people
are
opposed
to
it.
Some
people
are
opposed,
but
I'm
telling
you
from
the
people
like
down
here
where
I
live.
This
is
a
big
deal
and
it
means
a
lot
and
I
appreciate
anybody
who
has
anything
to
do
with
this.
A
Debbie,
thank
you.
We,
the
council,
you
probably
saw
what
Debbie
was
referring
to.
Prior
to
this
meeting,
we
had
a
Redevelopment
commission
which
passed
a
resolution
to
enter
into
a
contractual
agreement
with
Rafferty
Development
LLC
for
the
development
of
a
Dollar
General
market
store
at
the
former
ruler.
We
still
have
some
work
to
do,
but
over
the
course
of
the
next
90
days,
we
will
be
working
with
the
developer
to
get
final
approval
by
Dollar
General
to
locate
a
DG
Market
in
the
former
rural
building.
A
City
Madison
is
partnering
with
the
developer
to
enhance
that
that
location
is
going
to
be
a
very
unique
Market.
It
will
be
a
grocery
store
which
also
sells
household
household
products.
We've
been
working
on
this
as
a
top
priority
for
the
last
three
years,
and
it's
taken
a
lot
of
effort,
Tony
and
Emily
and
and
others
in
our
Redevelopment
commission
to
get
us
to
this
point.
There's
tremendous
amount
of
investment
happening
in
that
corridor.
This.
A
This
is
a
an
anchor
that
is
so
needed
for
Downtown
Madison
and
for
the
residents
here
and
across
the
river
and
for
the
city
so
Debbie.
Thank
you
for
your
remarks
and
for
the
fudge
you
brought
me
earlier
from
scoops
appreciate
that,
because
normally
I'm
arguing.
M
Well,
first,
let
me
just
thank
everyone
for
serving,
because
your
being
here
says
you
want
what's
good
for
the
city
and
my
being
here
says
the
same
thing.
So
I
have
a
couple
of
annoyances,
so
let
me
take
care
of
the
little
things
one-way
streets.
M
M
So
that's
just
one.
The
other
one
is
I
was
so
surprised
to
call
our
Police
Department
and
have
to
sit
through
a
recording
I
thought.
If
any
number
should
be
direct,
it
would
be
to
the
police,
because
sometimes
when
I'm
driving
along
I,
see,
vandalism
occurring
or
I
see
the
big
semis,
where
they
shouldn't
be
and
I'd
like
to
make
a
quick
call
to
the
city
police
to
let
to
alert
them
I
can't
unless
I
can
pull
off
the
road
and
then
wait
for
all
the
spiel
I
I.
Just
think.
D
D
A
M
Just
to
thank
them
for
their
service
all
right.
My
main
question
is
that
I
haven't
seen
any
work
at
Crystal
Beach.
What's
going
on
well,.
A
A
B
A
lot
of
the
work
right
now
is
like
behind
the
scenes
work
like
we've.
Had
the
filters
already
delivered
and
they're
in
storage,
the
work
trailer
is
there.
The
electricians
have
been
there
one
day,
working
on
one
of
the
boxes.
So
a
lot
of
it
right
now
is
lining
up
the
subcontractors
and
ordering
all
the
parts
that
when
we
get
to
a
certain
area,
we're
not
waiting
three
weeks
for
something
to
show
up,
and
so
we
have
the
groundbreaking
on
June
13th,
and
then
you
should
see
feet
on
the
ground
very
very
soon.
Oh.
B
A
We're
actually
on
schedule
and
and
you'll
see
once
we
close
and
Deploy
on
the
do
the
13th
a
tremendous
amount
of
on
the
ground
vertical.
The
pool
has
already
been
demolished.
There's
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
on
the
pull
construction
project
itself
and
so
anyway,
I'm
happy
that
it's
going
to
be
we're
having
groundbreaking
next
week.
A
Around
May,
the
9th
for
training,
substantial
complete
by
the
15th
and
open
prior
to.
A
Yeah
that'll
be
great
yeah.
We
have
one
of
the
best
pool
contractors
in
the
country
building
one
of
the
most
unique
pools
and
aquatic
centers
in
the
country.
M
Interesting
yeah
I
hope
to
review
that
I
was
learned
about
this,
that
we
needed
more
to
do
here
in.
A
Madison
and
that
is
the
Jefferson
cat-
that's
an
article
about
the
Jefferson
County
human
relations,
Commission.
A
A
M
C
A
Anyone
else
you're,
not
our
next
meeting
will
be
Tuesday
June
the
20th
and
it
will
be
outside
at
Oak,
Hill,
Park
or
actually,
maybe
under
our
new
shelter
at
Oak
Hill
Park.
It
will
be
also
celebrating
the
ribbon
cutting
for
the
new
park.
If
you
haven't
driven
by
there,
it's
beautiful
still
under
construction,
there's
still
a
few
things
to
do,
but
you
can
really
see
it.
A
Taking
shape
now
combine
that
with
the
upgrades
at
Gaines
Park
and
as
well
as
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
around
town,
and
then
we
have
one
other
June
20th
we'll
be
having
the
dedication
ceremony
for
the
opening
of
our
mural
Plaza
at
Mulberry
and
second
streets.
A
Oh
23rd,
so
this
is
June
20th,
June,
13th,
Crystal,
Beach
23rd
is
the
dedication
for
the
mural
Plaza,
which
is
a
phenomenal
asset
for
the
city
of
Madison's,
Cultural
Arts
District
and
is
integrated
in
with
all
the
other
Economic
Development.
That's
happening
there,
including
the
DG
Market
Neighborhood,
Market
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
So
tremendous
amount
of
investment
happening
all
across
town
and
I
will
stop
there
and
if
there's
any
questions
for
me,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.