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Historic District Board of Review- February 28, 2022
A
A
All
right
has
everybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
minutes
for
january.
You
have
you.
Have
any
questions
comments,
it's
very
none.
I
have.
D
Six
for
it
cut
the
bottom
off
that
had
the
I
think
were
the
page
numbers
for
this
document,
but
anyway
this
is
111
east
2nd
street
after
the
discussion
says,
jay
wilbur
asked
for
motion.
Of
course,
rayleen
and
prince
howard
says
based
on
the
future.
I
moved
to
john
morgan
for
the
to
extend
to
john
morgan
for
the
project
at
100
elm
street
to
black.
It
just
ends
there.
D
C
I
did
fix
that
one
if
it's
for
van
and
trevor
crafton
for
422
st
michaels.
I
did
correct
that
one,
but
yeah.
C
C
E
A
C
C
All
right,
so
it
will
read
if
we
pick
up
the
hddr
extend
to
john
morgan,
so
that
is
the
one
for
sorry.
Let
me
just
double
check
that
that
is
the
one
for
the
railings
first
you'd
be
the
roof,
so
we'll
read
for
the
porch
column
and
roof
modifications,
as
presented
in
this
application
for
the
project
at
403,
west
first
street.
B
C
Sorry
about
that,
let
me
look
at
that
one,
okay,
so
that
one
we'll
read
when
we
say
extend,
then
we
will
say:
extend
to
matthew
chandler
to
replace
six
windows
on
the
front
and
14
on
the
east
side
with
aluminum
clad
windows,
replace
the
overhead
door
with
multi-pane,
glass,
wood
or
aluminum,
clad
double
doors
and
side
lights.
C
A
All
right
we'll
go
into
our
review
of
applications.
Just
so
everyone's
aware
how
this
process
goes.
I
will
call
up
the
applicant
for
the
address
that
we
have
up
on
the
slide.
The
applicant
or
someone
representing
the
applicant
come
up
to
the
podium.
You
would
at
that
point
in
time,
state
your
name
and
your
address
that
you
actually
reside
at
and
then
at
that
point
in
time,
brooke
will
go
over
the
application,
discuss
it
with
us.
A
A
H
Thank
you
so
lewis,
joyner
architect,
recommending
john
morgan,
four
one.
Seven.
C
So
this
application
by
john
morgan
and
police
joiner
architect
is
for
a
circa,
1880
italian
zoned,
historic
district
residential.
The
cla
request
is
to
rework
the
existing
second
floor:
port
trailing
to
meet
code
required
height
of
36
inches.
Currently,
the
railing
height
is
32
inches.
C
A
Do
you
want
to
add
to
that
you
can
go.
H
Up
to
the
screen
yeah,
so
the
original
railing
is
pretty
wide
top
rail,
and
this
is
some
modification
at
some
point
and
so
then
bottom
rail
and
then
so
what
we're
proposing
to
do
is
just
maintain
this
section
add
about
just
three
and
a
half
inches
of
a
mole
in
between
and
then
put
it
all
back
together.
H
H
Yes,
last
time
we
were
here
there
was,
you
approved
the
whole
project,
except
for
the
railing
with
the
question
about
what
were
we
actually
going
to
do,
because
we
hadn't
detailed
that
yet
yet
so.
E
E
H
A
All
right
here,
we're
done
we'll
go
to
findings
of
fact
and
jerome.
You
want
to
take
us
to
find
these
back
on
the
gorgeous
homes
and
ruins.
Oh
sure,.
I
51-52
of
the
residential
guidelines
store,
porches,
historic,
porch,
collins
and
railing
should
be
retained
and
repaired
with
materials
to
match.
The
original.
The
original
porch,
columns
and
railings
are
missing
replacement.
Court
columns
and
railings
should
be
should
be
appropriate
for
the
dueling's
architectural
style
and
period.
I
What
actually
applies,
I
think,
that's
from
what
I
could
see
on
that
page.
Did
you
read
number
six
yeah
number
six
original
for
trailing
should
be
rebuilt
rather
than
removed
to
avoid
conflicts
with
building
codes.
Today's
building
codes
generally
require
the
top
of
the
railing
to
be
at
least
36
inches
above
grade,
which
is
often
too
high
for
the
store
torches.
The
torches
is
necessary.
I
D
H
A
A
Going
back
to
it,
and
you
talking
to
mr
morgan,
this
certainly
brings
you
to
the
property
which
the
property
is
obviously
beautiful,
as
it
is
anyway.
It
just
really
helps
and
of
course
me
then
gets
into
all
the
other
stuff
which
helps
a
lot
so
much
appreciate
it
all
right
with
that
motion.
E
C
So
this
application
by
the
american
legion
represented
by
mike
path
and
by
fast
signs
of
jeffersonville,
I
apologize.
I
put
schools
accidentally
on
that
is
a
reference
to
a
circa
1980
building
determined
no
no
style
zone
general
business.
C
C
C
The
display
dimensions
are
going
to
be
6
by
3
foot
18
for
a
total
of
18
square
feet.
It
is
double
sided.
The
grade
to
the
bottom
of
the
sign
is
approximately
18
feet.
The
overall
height
will
be
21
feet,
and
that
is
all
I
had.
E
Was
it
devin
had
a
conflict?
I
believe
and
we
couldn't
or
was
it
evan.
C
So
no,
we
had
to
cancel
the
first
meeting
we
and
were
rescheduled.
There
was
a
problem
with
the
email
that
had
gone.
J
A
J
To
look
at,
I
think
sure,
and
that's
all
that's
all
able
to
be
programmed
in
there.
So
it's.
J
I
C
Our
side,
ordinance
and
our
historic
district
guidelines
are
public
information
available
on
the
city's
website,
while
technically
it
is
the
responsibility
of
that
property
owner
to
know
these
items.
The
city
has
tried
very
diligently
to
educate
people
on
these
guidelines
and
ordinances.
C
C
Yes,
code
enforcement
and
I
also
do
monitoring
whenever
I
I
drive
around
and
look
at
things,
but
our
new
code
enforcement
officer
as
well
is,
in
the
process
of
he's,
been
doing
a
very
good
job
of
nuisance
and
different
things,
but
he's
also
in
the
process
of
being
trained
to
recognize
historic
district
violations
and
different
things.
So,
yes,
there
would
be
multiple
eyes
on
the
project.
I
I
J
Correct
and
mike.
E
So
I
you
know
I
kind
of
agree
with
what
josh
was
saying
in
regards
to
perry.
You
know
changing
periodically.
I
think
we
you
know
would
need
to
nail
that
down.
Also,
I
did
a
little
research
and
called
a
couple
of
other
friends
of
mine
that
live
in
different
cities
and
historic
districts,
and
I
asked
them
how
they
handled
this
kind
of
a
request,
just
curious,
and
they
simply
said
they
don't
allow.
You
know
led
signs
in
historic
districts
for
many
of
the
reasons
that
we
discussed
last
month
and
then
also
tonight
and
then.
E
In
addition,
I
did
find
out
that
there
is
a
place
in
louisville
that
has
a
3d
printer.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
a
3d
printer,
they
were
you
know
the
gentleman
from
american
legion
was
talking
about
you
know
many
of
his
letters
were
missing
or
cracked
or
broken.
E
As
I
understand
it,
you
can
either
bring
the
material
or
they
will
supply
it,
and
he
can
make
those
letters
back
and
continue
to
use.
The
sign
that
he's
got
another
option
would
be
to
create
a
new
sign,
that's
not
led,
and
that
isn't
internally
lit.
As
well
so
that's
that's
kind
of
you
know
what
I've
been
doing
over
the
last
30
days,
just
to
check
in
with
other
historic
districts
and
find
out
what
the
options
were.
If
there
were.
J
And
so
those
two
options,
one
as
I
think
part
of
the
challenge
isn't
just
the
letters
it's
actually
being
able
to
feasibly
like
it
requires
a
lift
to
change
that
and
then
the
sign
is
already
backlit
now
right.
So
it's
just
kind
of
retrofitting.
It's
internally
lit
right,
correct,
yeah,.
D
I
guess
my
concern,
I
mean
I've
been
my
whole
life.
I've
been
in
these,
you
know
volunteer
organizations
where
there's
turnover
after
a
few
years.
Nobody
remembers
where
this
rule
came
from
or
it's
forgotten
all
together
and
I'm
worried
it's
not
that
the
people
that
are
in
charge
now
would
not
do
what
they're
saying
on
this
side
is
that
in
a
few
years
people
say
I
discovered
this
cool
thing
on
the
side
which
it
might
be
flashing.
I
can
do
this
stuff
and
then
the
building
inspector-
I
don't
think
he's
going
to
be
he's.
D
Not
thinking
about
that
and
it's
just
going
to
wind
up
be,
you
know,
decided
all
the
capabilities
it
has
or
will
be
used,
and
it
will
just
not.
It
won't
be
followed
by
the
city.
Everyone
will
kind
of
forget
that
you
shouldn't
be
doing
this
I'd
be
more
comfortable.
If
you
actually
had
a
sign
that
was
within
the
guidelines,
I
mean
in
fact
not
internally
lit,
which
you
know
they're
not
supposed
to
be
internally
lit.
J
J
Just
because
it's
capable
of
going
250
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
I'm
allowed
to
do
that
now
it
could
be
argued:
okay,
well,
maybe
the
local
highway
patrolman,
the
local
sheriff
he
may
or
may
not
enforce
it.
But
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
could
be
what
ifs
like
that
when
it
comes
to
the
different
different
types
of
regulations
and
standards,
and
so
I
guess
it's
you
know
they.
J
They
know
how
they
need
to
operate
it
to
stay
in
compliance,
but
if
they
don't
there's
already
a
mechanism
with,
you
know
consequences
attached
to
that.
You
know
they.
I
guess
we
don't
have
control,
they
don't
have
control
as
to
whether
the
city
decides
to
enforce
that.
But
it's
you
know
it's
there,
and
so
it's
just
like
any
other
law
or
regulation.
I
would
argue
as
to
okay,
the
laws.
C
J
J
I
could
see
if
I
guess
I
could
see
it
more
if
there
wasn't
already
some
sort
of
enforcement
mechanism
there
in
order
to
if
they
weren't
compliant
in
order
to
force
it,
but
but
that
mechanism.
E
In
addition
to
that,
our
current
merchants
on
main
street
and
some
of
our
side
streets
have
complied
and
also
our
sign.
Companies
have
complied
with
the
guidelines.
So
up
to
this
point,
you
know
they
have
not.
No
one
has
even
suggested
using
led
or
digital
signs,
so
would
feel
a
little
unfair
to
me
when,
basically,
as
was
suggested
last
month,
how
they
advertise
is
by
social
media.
You
know
if
they've
got
like
a
margarita
night,
I
think
you
mentioned
last
time
or
they
have
a
special
band
coming
in
for
saturday
night.
L
My
name
is
michael
bath.
My
address
was
residences,
2050
michigan
road
here
in
madison,
and
I'm
the
first
vice
commander.
I
was
here
last
month
I'd
like
to
try
to
address
a
couple
of
things
to
your
concerns,
sir,
that
even
when
you
write
an
sop,
somebody
puts
a
rule
in
place
and
then
officers
get
reelected
things
change
hand.
They
don't
remember
where
rule
comes
through.
L
You
know
yeah,
I
could
probably
have
letters
printed
up
and
then
I'm
going
to
have
to
go.
Find
me
somebody
with
a
lift
truck
every
time.
I
need
change
a
message.
I
mean
things
20
some
feet
in
the
air
so
and
whereas
some
of
the
other
businesses
they
would
actually
be
in
order
to
do
what
we're
talking
about,
would
be
coming
to
you
asking
to
a
fix,
an
electronic
sign
to
a
historical
building,
one
that
doesn't
even
exist
now
we're
not
trying
to
fix
a
sign,
a
new
sign
to
a
historical
building.
L
C
So
our
ordinance
does
not
specifically
state
led.
However,
it
does
talk
about
plastic
material
and
it
also
does
talk
about
internally,
lift
and
flashing
and
motion.
So
no,
it
does
not
specifically
name
led.
I
C
Correct
our
current
guidelines
and
our
ordinance
also
addresses
the
animation
motion
in
flashing.
I
J
L
Absolutely
and
we're
not
looking
and
we
actually
when
we
first
contacted
fastsigns,
we
actually
contacted
three
different
sign
companies
to
get
quotes
in
order
to
try
to
see
what
was
out
there.
We
even
talked
about
that
some
of
the
aspects
of
what
you're
talking
about,
because
honestly
I
was
trying
to
get
lower
price.
L
L
Unfortunately,
a
programmable
sign
that
where
you
can
put
up
a
static
message,
let
it
sit
there
for
a
period
of
time,
be
it
a
minute,
be
it
whatever
and
then
have
that
fade
out
and
a
new
sign
come
a
new
message
come
in,
so
you
can
have
multiple
signs,
multiple
messages
up
without
having
to
again
get
on
a
ladder
truck
and
try
to
change.
You
know
plastic
letters.
L
We
just
thought
it
would
help
us
recover
and
we're
really
looking
to
try
to
get
back
because
one
of
the
other
differences
I'd
like
to
plea
a
little
bit.
I
guess,
is
that
where
some
of
the
other
businesses
they're
in
town-
and
they
serve
a
purpose
here
in
town
but
they're,
for-profit
businesses,
we're
non-profit
and
we're
trying
to
get
our
revenues
back
up
to
pre-code
revenues,
to
where
we
can
start
doing
the
things
again
that
we
used
to
do
american
legion
for
years
here
is
paid
for
the
fireworks
on
the
fourth
of
july
covid.
L
L
I
I
I
realize
that,
but
we
just
don't
seem
to
have
the
reach,
as
some
of
the
other
businesses
do
within
social
media,
to
be
able
to
get
the
word
out
to
where
we
can
again
try
to
generate
our
revenues
to
where
we
can
start
being
benefit
to
the
community.
I
mean
we
don't
make
it
we.
We
run
our
business
from
the
standpoint
of
trying
to
make
enough
revenue
that
and
by
state
we
actually
have
to
donate
so
much
of
it
away,
because
we're
not
allowed
to
make
some.
You
know
a
profit.
L
F
L
I
understand
the
fairness
issue.
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
plead
a
you
know,
because
of
our
mission
of
being
charitable
and
being
donating
to
the
welfare
of
our
community
and
that
we
can
strike
some
sort
of
agreement
where
we
can
preserve
the
intent
of
the
historical
district,
not
take
away
from
the
ambiance,
that's
here
in
town,
but
still
be
able
to
get
our
messages
out
so
that
we
can
do
it
back
to
doing
the
things
we've
always
done.
E
Yeah,
so
signs
are
important
elements
in
the
historic
and
commercial
districts.
Signs
should
be
retained,
maintained
and
preserved.
New
signs
should
be
of
traditional
materials
as
wood,
glass,
copper,
bronze
letters,
plastic
or
unfinished.
Wood
signs
are
not
appropriate.
C
Just
to
make
note
if
I
made
real
quick,
I
did
put
the
sign
ordinance
on
slides.
I
didn't
know
if
you
it's
up
to
you
if
you
wanted
to
repeat
that
or
not,
but
I
do
have
two
slides
of
sign
with
this
information.
E
No
way
to
finish
up
this
sign
is
not,
in
conformance
with
sign
guidelines,
two
five
and
six
and
eight,
because
it
is
constructed
of
plastic.
It
is
internally
lit
with
led
lights,
does
not
resemble
a
logo
or
symbol
and
has
more
than
two
or
three
colors.
E
E
I
I
I
A
I
have
to
you
know,
agree
with
tom
on
this,
that
you
know
right
now.
Our
downtown
is,
I
just
don't
believe,
is
ready.
We
don't
have
an
ordinance
that
really
fits
what
you
know
leds
might
do
and
how
they
might
fit
within
the
within
the
downtown
and.
A
Because
I
really
strongly
have
the
veterans
and
I
believe
strongly
in
what
the
legion
does.
I've
been
here
for
a
long
time
religion's
been
a
major
part
of
this
community,
like
you
said
given
so
much
to
the
community
and
that's
the
hard
part,
but
you
know
we
still.
We
have
to
think
of.
What's
what
will
this
do?
A
We
approve
this
and
then
there's
going
to
be
other
projects
that
are
going
to
come
in
front
of
us
somewhere,
because
people
are
going
to
start
thinking
well,
but
this
is
the
way
we
go.
We
can
start
coming
to
the
board
with
the
same
thing,
so
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
that
and
that's
the
hard
part
in
my
mind.
E
C
C
A
A
C
C
You
can
see
some
of
the
great
room
elevations,
although
this
is
interior,
it
does
show
some
detail
on
the
plans,
another
of
some
of
the
detailing,
if
you'll
notice,
some
of
the,
for
example,
the
bottom
left
shows
an
exterior
door.
C
C
And
these
are
exterior
elevations
of
the
front
and
the
side,
noting
that
when
you
look
at
the
front
sometimes
I
know
these
architectural
renderings
are
a
little
more
difficult
to
gauge
dimensions.
C
N
It's
the
front,
the
port
to
the
left
actually
sits
back.
That's
all!
That's
there
there's
another
door.
I
think,
if
you
go
back
to
the
original
yeah
there,
it's
the
one
see
how
it
sits
back
on
the
left.
So
that's
all
pretty
much
existing
and
we're
really
not
going
to
change
that.
I
think
that
door
will
stay
the
same
as
well.
I
N
B
G
C
Because
there's
evidence
of
the
historic,
original
historic
opening
you've
submitted,
that's
a
staff
approvable
item,
oh.
N
A
N
N
This
is
the
new
addition
that
we're
coming
adding
on
to
the
back
once
we
take
that
down
and
then
just
make
like
a
courtyard
between
those
two
and
the
existing
garage
is
all
the
same.
That's
just
all
interior!
N
N
I
N
I
A
N
N
D
Okay,
so
new
construction,
all
right,
so
it
should
be
located
at
the
rear
which
this
is
should
be
secondary
or
smaller
than
the
originals.
This
is
should
be
of
a
compatible
design
which
this
is
should
not
imitate
an
early
historic
style,
which
this
does
not
correct
and
see
reflect
characteristics,
current
building
period
but
compatible.
It
is
that
and
should
exterior
walls.
Original
building
is
intact,
right,
correct,
and
so
it
fulfills
all
of
the
residential
guidelines
for
new
construction.
D
A
A
G
A
You've
done
a
lot
of
good
things
for
me,
the
reason
why
I'm
not
really
being
really
hard
on
you,
because
I
know
that
you're
you're
not
doing
this-
you
didn't
do
this
purposely.
I
understand
that
and
tried
to
take
care
of
it
before
it
actually
happened,
but
you
know
even
with
that,
the
intentions
are
usually
there.
You
know
that
was
what
you
wanted
to
do,
and
and
contractors
still
do
it
and
owning
it
is
another
thing
right
had.
G
A
Not
have
we
said,
hey,
look,
we
don't
agree
to
it.
Then
you'd
have
to
put
that
structure
right
back
where
it
was
right
and
and
that's
what
we
don't
want
to
have
happen,
and
we
don't
want
people
to
have
to
feel
like
they're
coming
here,
and
you
know,
oh
my
gosh
historic
boards.
You
know
mad
at
us.
Well,
no,
but
you
know
at
least
bringing
to
our
attention
first
yeah.
You
know
so
I
think
at
least
set
it
up
right
and
then
try.
D
Based
on
the
proceeding
findings
of
fact,
can
you
turn
your
microphone?
I'm
sorry!
Oh
I'm
sorry.
Based
on
the
receiving
findings
of
fact,
I
move
that
the
madison
historic
district
board
of
review
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriate
appropriateness
to
john
hines
for
the
rear
and
lateral
editions
at.
A
You
know
seeing
how
you
want
to
look
at
this.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
this
two
separate
motions,
okay,
yeah
all
right,
but
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
motion
with
the
demo
first,
because
if
you
know
that
is
not
approved,
then
really
you
know
going
forward
with.
The
second
thing
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
because
you
have
to
rebuild
his
building
back
onto
the
house.
You
don't
approve
it
really!
Well,
yes,
if
he
doesn't
he's
not
approved,
then
he'd
have
to
rebuild
it
back.
A
But
that's,
but
that's
where
we're
at
and
that's
the
pro
that's
the
problem
and
I
understand
you've
what
your
your
thoughts
and
your
feelings
are
on
it,
because
I
have
the
same
thoughts
and
feelings.
I
guess
I'm
thinking
about
the
applicant
here
and
think
about
what
he
is
trying
to
do
he's
not.
I
don't
think
he
came
here
with
any
malice
in
having
done
this
ahead
of
time,
and
I
think
this
would
be
his
his
well.
D
N
N
A
N
Will
be
wooden,
siding
and
then
the
shingles,
I
guess,
are
going
to
be
the
shin
we're
gonna
match
the
things
that
are
on
it
right
now.
A
G
N
A
N
Existing
house-
it's
just
it-
will
be
a
connection
come
off
of
there
and
then
you
know
we
have
the
windows
that
we
put
on,
which
are
there's
vinyl,
clad
there
now.
So
I
think
essentially,
is
it
vinyl
flat
or
aluminum
they're.
K
G
N
Windows
they're
on
the
existing
house.
If
you
see
the
picture
okay,
can
you
go
back
yeah?
Essentially,
it's
all
sort
of
thrown
together,
there's
two
doors
original.
N
All
coming
out,
four
of
them
are
coming
out
we're
putting
a
new
one
on
two
in
the
little
back
area,
I'm
just
going
to
leave
in
there
they're
existing.
So.
E
N
N
N
I
don't
know
specifically
there's
two
big
differences.
Well,
I'm
not
touching
those
those
are
there.
Those.
N
N
E
Correct,
yes,
and
those
are
transoms
above
each
door,
yes,
and
are
they
they're
currently
boarded
in
or.
E
Board
or
it's.
D
D
N
Well,
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
I'm
trying
to
use
what
I'm
supposed
to
use.
Okay
and
that's
what
we'll
do
there's
nothing
on
it.
It's
an
eyesore
back
there.
You
know-
and
I
realized
I
put
the
cart
before
the
course
which
we've
all
discussed
there,
but
as
far
as
the
really
detailed
specifics
you
know,
we
got
all
the
plans
together
and
it's
going
to
be.
I
think
a
big
addition
to
that.
Neighborhood.
It's
been
an
eyesore
sitting
there.
A
We
do
the
motion
we're
putting
in
the
right
things.
We
know
what
we're
approving
okay
and
so,
if
you're
wanting
to
go
the
the
hardy
border,
you
know
type
the
cement
board.
Basically,
you
know
it's
been
approved
in
the
past
a
lot
of
times.
They
ask
you
to
use
a
smooth
one,
not
a.
A
Is
more
characteristic.
G
E
N
Okay,
so
you're
gonna
do
which
one
aluminum
flat?
Okay,
oh.
E
A
P
Rogers
804
east
1st
street.
Yes,
a
project
like
this
can
give
you
multiple
options
as
long
as
it
uses
one
of
the
multiples
like
we
give
you
lp,
smartside
james,
harvey,
smooth
and
maybe
cedar
based
on
the
valuability,
because
there's
also
a
problem
eating
materials
right
now.
So
I
don't
want
to
see
anybody
put
himself
in
the
box.
Sure
sure
wood
windows
or
wood
will
clad
so
that
he
has
either.
E
A
A
We
don't,
we
normally
have
pretty
well
narrowed
down,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
the
application
is
in
good
standing.
I
know
exactly
what
we're
actually
approaching
that
property
and
it's
not
just
hey.
You
know
you
put
any
of
these
types
of
materials.
N
We're
not
gonna
replace
the
doors
they
were
gonna
they're
gonna.
I
put
that
but
they're
good
enough
to
breathe.
C
Since
we
do
have
evidence
of
the
original
historic
openings
that
is
notably
different
than
the
picture
window,
that
was
there
right.
So
I
do
believe
that
my
recommendation
would
be
that
that
would
be
specified,
because
that
would
be
what
my
recommendation
with
that
is
that
that
would
be
specified.
C
A
N
N
N
N
E
And
then
I'm
assuming
aluminum,
gutters
and
downspouts.
E
C
So
the
question
was
is
because
the
demolition
has
already
been
done.
Does
that
need
to
be
part
of
the
motion?
And
I
was
saying
yes,
it
does,
because
we
have
two
different
issues,
demolition
and
building
of
a
new
addition,
so
they
both
need
to
be
part
of
the
motion,
regardless
whether
it's
been
already
completed
or
not
yeah.
So.
A
A
E
Windows
are
prominent
building
components,
historic
windows
should
be
retained,
maintained
and,
if
needed,
repaired,
original
window
opening
should
be
preserved
or
I'm
sorry.
Original
windows
should
be
preserved
in
their
original
size,
location
and
design
with
the
original
materials
and
number
of
panes
windows
should
not
be
added
to
the
primary
facade.
E
Windows
should
be
repaired
rather
than
replaced
severe
deterioration
necessitates
replacement,
they
must
80
percent
of
the
window
must
be
gone,
deteriorated
windows
can
be
replaced
with
either
baked
enamel
and
not
anodized
aluminum
windows,
so
wood
or
aluminum
plaid
windows
may
be
appropriate
and,
let's
see
original
metal
windows
in
the
20th
century,
I
don't
think
we
we
don't
need
to
cover
the
four
five
we'll
see
snaps
screen
storms.
M
E
To
the
two
over
two,
which
is
very
appropriate,
it's
going
to
be
beautiful
on
the
front
of
that
house
and
then
the
other
windows
that
you're
adding
you're,
actually
restoring
those
windows
back
into
the
original
openings,
which
is
great.
The
new
windows
that
you're
adding
on
the
back
are
appropriate
as
well,
not
a
lot
to
work
with
for
repair.
So
that's
really
a
non-issue.
E
Porches
torches
are
one
of
the
most
defining
characteristics
of
historic
houses.
In
most
cases,
porches
should
be
retained,
maintained
and,
if
needed,
repaired.
New
portraits
should
be
consistent
with
the
historic
appearance
of
the
building
to
which
they
are
attached.
In
most
cases,
historic
porches
are
visible
from
the
street
and
should
be
retained
and
maintained.
E
Torches
on
the
primary
facade
should
not
be
enclosed,
though
screening
is
appropriate
if
the
structural
framework
for
the
screen
is
minimal.
Wood
framing
is
preferred,
though,
though
anodized
and
baked
aluminum
framing
is
acceptable.
Raw
aluminum
framing
is
not
appropriate
if
the
historic
porch
is
missing,
it
is
appropriate
to
replace
it
replacement.
E
Porches
should
use
materials
and
styles
that
are
compatible
with
the
building
to
which
they
are
attached
and,
when
possible,
be
based
on
historic,
photographic
or
documentary
document
documentary
evidence
removing
a
front
porch
that
has
been
added
where
there
was
not
one
historically,
maybe
appropriate.
In
some
cases
we
don't
have
any
historic
reference
of
a
porch.
Do
we.
E
So
porch
details
I
mean
there,
there
was
one
there.
We
don't
know
how
you
know,
there's
been
one
or
two
there.
I
think
the
fact
that
you're
putting
one
back
on
and
as
if
you
can
go
back
to
that
original
design.
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
the
age
of
the
house.
E
So
I
think
the
materials
you're
using
which
I'm
guessing
are
wood,
spindles
wood
columns.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
okay
and
then
the
the
only
difference
from
that
picture,
which
we
don't
know
when
that
was
added-
is
that
this
is
gabled
into
the
existing
house,
but
that
may
have
been
appropriate.
Also,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
any
evidence
of
anything
suggesting
anything
different,
so
I
I
think
that
the
addition
of
your
porch,
your
railings
or
the
spindles
and
the
columns
are
appropriate.
N
C
Thank
you
for
the
roof.
Let
me
skip
forward
to
another
application
on
that.
A
He's
doing
what
he's
matching,
what
he
has
yeah
and
the
pitch
looks
like
it
was
in
congruence
with.
D
G
E
That
the
porch
and
the
columns
and
the
spinners
at
the
top,
I
think
they're
appropriate
to
design
and
ask
and.
N
D
All
now,
based
on
the
preceding
findings
of
fact,
based
on
the
proceeding
findings.
In
fact,
I
knew
that
the
madison
historic
district
board
of
review
and
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
john
heinz
for
the
proposed
torches,
roof
real
rear
ladder
and
lateral
editions
and
windows
and
demolition
located
at
seminole
east
second
street.
Subject,
however,
to
the
conditions
specified
in
the
findings
of
fact
made
previously
two
wits,
the
siding
will
be
lp
or
some
type
of
cement
board
siding
the
wood.
The
windows
will
be.
D
D
R
N
C
This
circuit,
1850,
holland
parlor,
is
known
historic,
district
residential.
That's
the
only
request
is
to
demolish
the
existing
porch
and
railing
to
build
a
new
portion
railing
in
the
same
location,
with
the
exception
of
the
stems,
which
will
be
relocated
to
approximately
two
foot
further
to
the
east,
away
from
the
western
property
line.
C
A
R
R
So
and
in
the
process
of
him
fixing
things
up,
I
was
getting
the
survey
done
and
the
surgery
wasn't
done
yet
when
he
went
ahead
and
fixed
the
steps
it
turned
out
after
the
survey
was
done.
The
steps
are
encroaching
on
the
next
property
so
legally,
I
have
to
take
them
out.
So
I
got
a
letter
approval
from
the
zoning
board
to
do
that,
so
we've
gone
ahead
and
removed
the
crow
screen
part
and
the
you
know
the
basic
area
around
the
steps.
R
Yeah
it's
been
removed
so
right
now
we're
waiting
for
approval
to
replace
the
porch
back.
The
way
it
was
well
knew
not
the
way
it
was
but
and
the
rest
of
force
really
had
a
lot
of
deterioration.
Also
it
was
cracked
in
the
top
there
was,
there
was
flaking
of
the
surface.
R
The
railing
was
was
really
too
low
for
code.
It
was
too
wide
on
the
spindles.
It
was
bent
it
was
rusted
through
and
it
was
it
was
just
wobble.
It
was
completely
unsafe
when
the
hype
that
the
porch
is
on,
so
we
got
permission
to
go
ahead
and
remove
it.
We
just
need
every
mission
to
replace
it.
We
want
to
replace
it
with
concrete
new,
concrete
the
surface
and
everything
will
be
as
close
as
original
as
possible.
R
Looking
around
the
neighborhood
we're
looking
at
other
people's
porches
we're
trying
to
match,
as
close
as
we
can,
and
the
rally
matches
other
people's
railing
in
the
neighborhood
across
the
street,
so
we're
trying
to
make
it
as
historically
recoverable
as
possible.
Given
the
fact
that
condition
is
pretty
pretty
bad.
When
you
know
we
first
started
getting
to
work.
The
other
thing
that
happened
when
they
tore
off
the
steps
is
the
left
front
corner
of
the
house.
R
The
foundation
was
crumbling
as
well.
We
didn't
know
that,
and
so
the
bricks
were
coming
loose
and
there's
there
was
crumbling
of
the
concrete
underneath
it.
So
we
went
ahead
and
had
them
put
concrete
back
in
there
to
support
that
foundation,
which
I
hope,
that's
okay,
but
it
was
kind
of
an
emergency
thing
that
we
didn't
know
that
it
was
a
problem
there
to
do
that.
R
A
R
It's
going
awesome
because,
when
we
removed
the
part
with
the
stets,
where
we
saw
the
chromium
foundation-
and
we
didn't
want
to
have
a
risk
of
there's
something
collapsing,
so
we
went
ahead
and
put
concrete
back
in
not
porridge,
but
just
at
the
bottom
of
it
with
the
footer.
The
footer's
been
put
back
in
with
the
wall.
Yes,
and
that's
I
mean
right
there
we're
stopped,
so
we
get
permission
to
put
the
porch
back
on
and
the
railing.
G
R
You
know
it
would
be
essentially
the
same
size
as
what
the
porsche
was
minus.
The
steps
being
moved
up.
The
steps
actually
been
this
repositioned
from
here
to
right
here,
so
they'll
be
in
line
with
the
property.
The
property
is
not
very
wide.
This
way,
there's
maybe
24
inches
on
this
side.
I
didn't
know
that
my
first
ball,
because
the
survey
hadn't
been
finished
when
the
previous
owner
had
redone
all
this
section.
So
you
cut
out
this
much
of
the
of
the
porch
and
put
new
concrete
here
and
here
which
it
didn't,
look
good.
R
You
know
historically
the
other
way
it
just.
It
was
a
patch
valve
and
there's
a
pretty
bad
pet
shop,
so
we
had
determined,
we
bought
the
house
and
probably
wouldn't
replace
the
portrait
might
get
more
where
it
was.
You
know
originally
had
a
look
and
everything
like
that
as
closely
as
we
could,
given
the
fact
that
it
was
already
messed
up.
So
that's
that's
really
what
I'm
asking
you
just
have
permission
to
finish:
putting
the
boards
back
in
essentially.
R
R
When
you
took
some
of
this
out
in
the
history
of
the
original
steps,
were
in
the
middle
going
up.
That's
where
I
thought
yeah
and
there
was
there's
like
a
stone
here
in
the
middle
it
went
across.
But
then
there
was
also
some
brick
stabs
over
on
this
side,
close
where
this
window
was
that's,
where
some
other
steps
were
so
there's
brick
in
there
there's
fondry
in
there
there's
some
kind
of
stuff
there.
R
So
you
know
a
lot
of
it
and
this
picture
the
wall
I
said
there's
this
was
like
concrete,
original
concrete
and
it's
another
wall
was
put
on
top
of
that
and
there
was
a
seam
that
was
cut
out
here,
where
the
original
steps
were
and
there's
cracks
all
around
it
and
there's
leaching
and
all
kind
of
stuff.
And
it's
just
it's
just
really
funny
and
chromium-
and
you
know
I
like
that:
they'll
kept
the
original,
but
it
just
wouldn't
wouldn't
possibly
do
that.
A
One
thing
what
I'd
say
is
that
you
know
I
know
you
got
permission
to
take
the
steps
out,
but
the
actual
whole
porch
before
you
do
something
like
that
and
demo
something
you
would
need
to
get
permission
to
do
that
before
you
actually
demo
it
now.
The
permission
can
come
either
from
the
board
or
you
know.
If
it's
a
safety
issue,
then
the
building
inspector
can
actually
tell
you.
R
A
A
G
E
E
R
I
So
the
brand
new
retaining
wall
and
bedding
that
you
put
in
for
the
new
concrete
porch
are
you
going
to
demo
that
new
stuff
and
then
move
the
steps
over
because
it
looks
to
me
like
it
looks
to
me
like
it's
with
with
the
new
retaining
wall.
It
stretches
all
the
way
across
the
width
of
the
of
the
house.
It's
the
same
footprint
with
the.
R
Wall,
it's
the
same
footprint
this
footprint
here
this
part
of
it
here
and
this
all
the
way
across
is
the
exact
same
footprint
that
would
request
right
on
the
same
foundation.
So,
let's
not
change
dimensions
at
all,
we'll
set
the
railing
the
same
distance
it'll
be
hopefully
about
the
same
line.
It's
the
same
black.
Are
you
going
to
utilize
the.
R
Was
advanced,
it's
rusted.
It
was
already
wobbling
that
the
flood
supports
broken
off.
They
were
removed
from
the
porch,
so
it's
it's
probably
not
usable
at
all.
Oh
yeah,
it's
really
damaged
with
rust
and
you
won't
be
using
the
old
railing
that
you
agree
with
no,
but
we're
getting
something
as
close
to
that
we
possibly
can
it'll,
be
black
and
it'll
be
more
cold,
which
will
be.
The
skins
will
be
closer
together
than
the
old
one
doesn't
have.
They
were
too
far
apart.
They
were
too
low
and
it
just
didn't
read:
code.
R
E
So
you're
looking,
then
a
36
inch
height
for
the
railing.
Yes,
and
then
are
you
also
considering
and
using
the
posts
that
you're
picturing
here
well.
R
I
C
From
what
I
saw
today
from
a
site
visit
just
to
go
back
and
revisit
it,
everything,
except
for
the
steps
on
the
concrete
portion,
has
been
redone
so.
R
R
No,
the
previous
owner,
did
the
previous
holder
put
a
new
retaining
wall
and
new
step
on
that
same
footprint
that
the
old
picture
there
shows
he
just
patched
it
up,
and
we
didn't.
I
mean
he
did
that
before
we
bought
it,
so
we
couldn't
tell
what
to
do,
but
we
didn't
like
the
look
of
it.
You
know
it's
got
a
new
patch
on
the
side
and
all
the
rest
of
it's
older.
It
look.
I
mean
nothing
against
the
employment,
didn't
look
terrible.
A
C
C
If
I
may
disagree
with
you,
because
technically
the
footprint
is
changing,
that's
why
that's
why
it's
a
dimmer
because
of
the
steps
correct,
correct
it
changes.
I
Nope,
okay
portrait
is
often
the
most
funny
characteristic
of
a
historic
house.
In
most
cases,
historic
portraits
should
be
retained,
maintained
and
immediately
repaired.
New
torches
should
be
consistent
with
the
historic
parents
building
on
which
they
are
attached.
I
In
those
cases,
visible
from
the
street
should
be
retained
and
maintained,
which
is
on
the
primary
facade,
should
be
enclosed,
should
not
be
enclosed
through
the
screening
is
appropriate
if
the
structural
framework
for
the
screen
is
being
is
minimal,
wood
framing
is
preferred
aluminum.
I
I
Original
force
railing
should
be
rebuilt,
rather
than
removed
to
avoid
conflicts
with
building
code.
Today's
building
codes
generally
requires
the
tops
of
railings
to
be
at
least
36
inches
above
grade,
which
is
often
too
high
for
the
store,
of
course.
Of
course,
if
the
new
porch
is
necessary,
consider
raising
the
grade
through
landscaping
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
G
I
Historic
district
neighborhoods
are
irreplaceable
visit
with
physical
evidence
of
madison's
past
the
loss
of
any
historic
building
affects
not
only
the
individual
building,
but
the
australian
landscape
demolition
may
be
appropriate
if
the
building
does
not
contribute
to
the
historic
character
of
the
district.
Applicants
for
demolition
should
explore
possibilities
for
selling
or
reusing
historic
buildings
prefer
we
are
on
site,
but
also
another
location.
I
Demonstratable
economic
hardship
on
the
owner,
moving
a
building
from
its
historic
location
will
be
approved.
Only
demolition
by
neglect
occurs
when
a
building
is
allowed
to
deteriorate.
Your
lack
of
maintenance-
it
is
a
self-composed
hardship
that
will
not
be
it
was
a
self-postpartum
may
not
be
considered
a
mitigating
circumstance
when.
A
I
I
feel
like
the
the
demolition
that
has
been
done
on
the
existing
porch
and
replacement
of
the
new.
Retaining
walls
is
appropriate.
Mitigating
mitigating
factors
to.
D
E
For
the
proposed
demolition
of
the
existing
porch
and
railings
and
new
concrete
construction
of
a
new
front
porch
with
aluminum
railings
height
of
36
inches,
this
includes
the
relocation
of
the
new
steps,
approximately
two
to
three
feet
to
the
east.
From
the
current
location
on
the
west
side
of
the
porch
located
at
816
west,
you
said
that
first
street.
A
Get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
you
can
begin
the
rest
of
your
construction
as
long
as
you
have
the
right
permits.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
S
S
And,
do
you
ask
me
questions
or
do
I.
A
C
So
this
application
is
concerning
circa
1860
19th
century
functional,
historic
district
residential.
The
cla
request
is
to
amend
2018
coa
and
add
one
faux
balcony
made
of
iron
and
reclaimed
wood
to
install
vinyl
windows
on
the
existing
openings
of
the
north
facade.
C
And
so,
if
we
look
at
the
current
pictures
of
that
northern
facade,
you
can
see
several
windows
have
been
infilled
with
wood.
Currently
just
to
note,
the
prior
coa
application
made
approval
to
put
doors
in
these
openings
where
the
faux
balconies
would
be
installed,
and
the
application
has
now
changed
to
include
windows
rather
than
the
doors.
C
And
this
is
an
example
or
actually
one
of
the
actual
windows.
Ms
hollinger
has
already
ordered
the
windows
and
does
have
them
currently
at
you
know,
storage,
I
would
say
so
there.
They
are
two
over
two
vinyl
windows,
and
that
is
all
I
had.
S
Yeah,
let
me
explain
that
I
did
call
all
of
the
views
on
the
north
side
of
that
building
are
all
vinyl
windows.
They
were
that
way
when
we
purchased
the
building
and
when
we
got
ready
to
continue
with
what
had
been
approved
in
2018
bill
peckham
paul
with
kentuckiana
contractors
was
my
was
the
person
that
presented
for
the
historic
board
at
that
time.
G
S
S
So
I
can't
imagine
that
anybody
will
ever
notice
or
know
that
they
are
vinyl
mostly
because
of
the
quality,
and
they
are
very
high
in
vinyl
windows
and
I
had
been
given
permission
to
get
them.
So
when
that
became
a
controversy
about
two
months
ago
or
a
month
ago,
I
guess
it
was.
I
was
told
that
she
thought
that
I
was
replacing
the
existing
windows
with
final
and
I
said
no
there's
nothing
wrong
with
those
windows.
S
There
would
have
been
no
reason
for
me
to
replace
them
and
she
says:
well,
it
doesn't
really
matter
because
that
was
for
doors,
and
I
said
I
can't
imagine
my
bill
was
putting
doors
there
that
opened
out
onto
an
alley.
I
did
not
realize
they
were
doors.
I
thought
they
were
windows
mostly
for
fire
estate
because
they
will
be
coming.
S
One
of
them
will
be
coming
off
of
a
bedroom
and
I
think,
did
you
say
that
only
one
balcony
had
been
approved
and
there
was
supposed
to
be
faux
balconies
actually
on
floor
windows,
but
we're
not
asking
to
do
the
port
window
yet,
just
because
of
the
expense
of
everything
later
on
down
the
road
I'll
come
back
and
beg
commissions
to
do
that
again.
But
right
now
we're
trying
to
add
downtown
housing
in
this
upper
level
of
the
building,
and
so
that's
why
we're
attempting
to
do
these
street
openings
right
now.
S
It's
going
to
be
here
here
and
here
all
where
there
were
openings.
The
windows
have
been
custom
made
to
fit
each
specific
opening.
The
balconies
have
not
been
made
yet
larry
will
be
building
those
out
of
iron
and
reclaimed
wood
very
similar
to
what
we
have
on
the
front
post.
Could
you
show
the
front
of
the
building
for
a
minute?
Please
now?
Well,
because
of
this
suv,
you
can't
see
it.
S
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
building,
but
we
did
the
reclaimed
wood
hitching
post,
because
there
originally
had
been
post
there
and
then
on
the
side
of
the
building.
Larry
also
built
to
protect
the
back
corner
of
the
building
where
it
was
getting
damaged
right
here,
there's
reclaimed
wood
posts
that
are
cemented
into
the
foundation
and
also
iron
rods
to
go
across
trying
to
stay
with
the
character
that
the
building
used
to
be
delivery
stable.
C
That
may
be
on
the
prior
application.
Let
me
take
a
look.
I
We're
on
that
photo
or
do
you
plan
on
installing
the
faux
belt.
S
A
R
S
Now,
on
the
front
of
the
building,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
switch
back
to
that
larry
because
it
faces
broadway.
Larry
did
rebuild
all
of
these
windows
that
have
decayed
and
they
all
have
been
rebuilt
in
black
and
and
restored.
So
they
are
truly
black.
They
still
have
all
the
original
glass,
the
weighty
glass
and
it
was
quite
a
project
to
get
those
rebuilt.
But
you
did
a
great
job.
M
M
So
each
time
you
know,
I've
installed
by
the
windows
at
home
here,
they've
been
approved
by
different
boards
in
the
past.
It's
just
been
seven
years
ago,
and
I've
also
put
a
little
bit
of
plant
business
in,
and
I've
also
put
woodlands
in
the
windows
that
I've
installed
are
not
cheap.
They
are
top
of
the
line
if
they
end
up
coming
out.
M
A
S
A
G
A
Now
you
know
there's
vinyl
that
was
there
before.
Then
our
guidelines
allow
vinyl
to
replace
fire.
You.
G
S
A
S
G
G
S
A
A
That's
all
right
so
brooke
with
the
prior
approval
that
was
provided.
Did
you
look
at
that
to
see
if
it
did
specify
material
or
not.
C
Address
doors:
that's
why
it
addresses
yes,
doors
and
two
of
the
three
faux
balconies.
So
two
were
two.
C
Two
three
there's
on
the
new
on
these
current
plans:
there
are
plans
for
three
and
then
it
addressed
coach
lighting
by
the
first
story
entries
and
then
limestone.
Adding
limestone
to
the
existing
limestone
seal
windows
were
not
addressed.
A
And
certain
that's
why
you
only
have
one
on
this
application.
There's
only
one
for
the
balcony,
because
you
have
two
two
approved.
D
D
G
S
Yeah,
did
you
find
the
drawing
of
what
what
the
new
architecture.
C
S
C
C
And
that
is
part
of
the
application
packet
that.
A
M
G
G
E
S
G
A
A
M
M
E
I
D
We're
not
talking
about
adding
any
number
two
number
three
they
should
be
replaced,
but
what's
there
is,
is
is
final
and
what's
being
put
in
place?
Is
staff
approved
vinyl,
even
though
vinyl,
but
then
we
should?
Maybe
we
should
call
this
aluminum
clad
vinyl.
D
Okay,
so
the
aluminum,
which
is
not
addressed
in
our
guidelines,
because
I
don't
think
that
ever
existed
before.
Okay,
so
number
four
original
metal
windows,
not
appropriate
snap-on
mountains-
we're
not
talking
about,
but
actually
what
are
the?
How
many
is
this
two
over
two
over
two
and
the
mountains
are
internal?
Are
the
muntins?
Are
they
internal
snap-on,
external.
E
D
S
A
M
D
S
C
C
S
D
D
D
D
Sorry,
seven
security
bars.
There
are
no
security
bars.
So
that's,
okay,
all
right!
So
the
windows.
It
seems
like
that
they,
the
proposal,
does
satisfy
the
guidelines
with
regards
to
windows,
okay,
horse
columns
and
railings;
okay.
They
should
be
reserved,
but
through
this
is
going
to
be
new,
so
there's
nothing
to
deserve.
D
Two
is
not
applicable.
Three.
S
D
Pipe,
okay,
all
right,
so
they
talk
about
water,
front,
porches,
you're,
going
to
talk
about
front
porches,
which
is
three.
These
are
on
the
side
and
this
is
an
industrial
style
building.
So
these
are
residential
guidelines.
Here
we
really
kind
of
need-
and
I
guess
you
don't
have
porches
on
a
commercial
in
the
building,
so
the
guidelines-
actually
don't
directly,
aren't
written
for
this
case
specifically
but
we'll
this
is
what
we
have
to
go
by
okay
front.
Porch
is
not
what
it
is.
So
number
four
doesn't
apply.
D
Number
five
talking
about
the
various
styles,
but
I
think
number
five
is
satisfied
because
you
are
trying
to
pick
a
style
that
is
appropriate
to
that
building
to
the
time
and
the
purpose.
D
S
D
Okay
and
original
porsche
rail
should
be
rebuilt,
but
six
doesn't
apply,
because
these
are
new
okay.
Is
there
something
beyond
six
yeah,
okay,
so
residential
ground
sports
columns
to
me
seems
to
be.
The
proposal
seems
to
be
consistent
with
our
guidelines.
D
C
If
I
may
comment
on
that,
just
to
make
note
of
it,
there
is
a
dispute
as
to
whether
there
was
approval
for
the
vinyl
windows.
Okay,
so
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
that.
S
Can
I
yeah,
can
I
finish
well
add
to
that
when
I
did
call-
and
I
and
I
asked
I
said
I
was
told
when
I
called
in
the
fall
that
the
vinyl
was
approved.
Then
the
architect
submitted
the
building
drawings.
I
guess
for
the
rest
of
the
building
project
for
the
interior
project,
not
just
the
exterior
and
she
said,
do.
S
But
anyway,
so
I
she
said,
let
me
look
it
up
and
she
said
there
there
was
no
originally.
When
I
asked
back
in
the
fall
before
I
ordered
them.
She
said
there
is
no
notation
as
to
what
the
material
would
be.
So
I
would
say
it's
okay
to
go
ahead
and
order
that
I
did
say
the
rest
of
the
windows
on
that
side
of
the
building
are
vinyl
and
then
later
on.
When
my
brookie
called
me
and
the
plans
had
been
submitted
to
her,
the
architect
had
turned
in
what
was
that.
S
Maybe
two
months
ago
six
weeks
ago-
and
she
said
we
have
a
concern
about
the
windows
and
vinyl-
and
I
said,
look
I
said
I
know
normally
they
aren't,
but
I
did
get
them
pre-approved
so
then
the
other
person
called
me
and
she
said
I
thought
you
were
calling
to
replace
the
existing
vinyl
windows.
That's
what
I
was
approving,
and
I
said
I
don't
know
why
I
would
be
wanting
to
replace
those
because
they're
in
perfect
condition,
I'm
never
asked
to
replace
those.
S
I
only
asked
to
put
the
windows
in
the
openings
upstairs
on
the
second
floor
so
and
she
says
no.
That
was
for
doors,
and
I
said
that
was
a
long
time
ago,
when
bill
peck
and
paul
made
so
many
mistakes
that
I
really
don't
remember
there
being
doors,
and
I
can't
imagine
why
it
would
be
doors
because
they
would
be
opening
onto
the
alley.
S
I
don't
remember
anything
about
the
balconies
being
set
in
six
feet
or
why
that
would
even
look
right,
because
I've
worked
really
really
hard
to
try
to
get
mobility
to
be
authentic
and
in
age-appropriateness
materials.
S
So
yes,
I
know
she
doesn't
feel
like
she
told
me
that,
but
I
would
never
have
gone
out
on
a
limb
to
ask,
because
I
didn't
have
a
story
for
you
before
and
I
know
what
the
requirements
are.
So
I
would
never
have
told
larry
to
go
ahead
and
order
him
and
pay
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
for
him.
Had
I
not
gotten
permission.
A
Well,
I
I
understand
it
and
I
appreciate
you
wanting
to
keep
the
anonymity,
but
that
really
makes
the
difference
for
me
that
you're
not
telling
me,
because
I
can't.
E
Well,
I
just
don't
I
mean
if
it's
been
pre-approved
well,
we
don't
know
that.
I
don't
know
that.
Then
you
know
I
mean
adding
the
faux
balconies
creates
a
sense
of
false
historic
development.
E
A
So
I
think
you
know
for
me:
I
got
a
think
that
tom
I
I
I
agree,
certainly
with
the
balconies
in
an
alley
like
that
it
would
be
very
difficult
and
cause
possibly
cause
some
issues
there
as
well,
but.
G
S
A
E
Okay,
so
but
yeah,
but
my
issue
is
that
installing
faux
back
means
where
there
were
none
right,
creates
that
false
sense
of
development
during
in
that
period.
A
S
D
M
You
can
use
a
chain
link
chain
sliders,
and
this
is
what
she's
going
to
have
to
do.
But
they're
again,
all
your
all.
Your
very
nice
drawers
for
the
commercial.
S
I
G
M
A
A
G
A
E
S
A
A
C
Is
to
rebuild
the
rear
edition
with
the
same
foundation,
but
two
stories
tall
to
replicate
the
duplex
design,
add
wood
windows
and
steel
doors
in
the
new
openings
to
the
newly
built
river
edition.
You
can
see
the
current
photo
of
the
home
on
the
left,
and
these
are
photos
of
the
rear
edition
that
has
been
built
currently.
O
They
didn't
ask
for
the
demo.
We
got
the
demo
approved
because
it
was
considered
a
galapagos
structure.
The
whole
right
side
was
falling
off,
so
we
rebuilt,
we
rebuilt
the
specs
of
a
duplex,
come
to
find
out.
The
neighbor
told
me
that
she
had
historical
photos
or
had
gone
to
the
library
and
that's
not
what
the
roofline
looked
like
before.
O
C
And
actually,
let
me
clarify
I'm
sorry.
The
demolition
was
approval
was
an
unsafe
structure
declaration.
It
did
not
come
before
before
I
apologize.
B
O
Yeah
because
they
said
it
was,
it
wasn't
new
construction.
It
was
all
right.
Where
did
it?
We
were
I'm
not.
C
A
G
A
O
C
Michael,
do
you
remember
what
approximate
month
you
got
the
building?
Permit
I
mean
I
can.
I
can
certainly
search.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it's
been
a
while.
Okay.
A
C
All
right,
so
the
building
permit
was
issued
in
july
of
2021,
and
it
specifically
states
for
a
remodel
of
the
fire
damaged
portion.
Hdd
are
not
needed
for
the
demolition
and.
C
Is
remodel
for
rear
portion.
O
O
O
D
Q
A
C
That's
why
my
understanding
of
the
previous
building
permit
was
for
demolition
only
because
there
were
no
plans
submitted
for
this
rare
edition
to
approve-
and
that's
just
my
understanding,
I'm
not
the
attorney
here.
So
the
I
mean
devon.
If
the
building.
B
C
G
G
A
G
G
A
All
right
next
application
is
1001
west
first
street.
C
C
This
is
the
current
frontal
side
of
the
building
facing
the
north
and
the
eastern
elevation,
showing
that
rare
edition
on
the
back.
C
A
A
Okay,
so
this
structure
in
the
back,
it's
single
it
looks
like
it's
single
story,
but
you
got
a
a
almost
like
a
basement.
That's
a
garage
type
underneath
right,
based
on
the
the
grading
and
stuff
being
able
to
do
that.
Yeah.
The.
A
P
E
In
an
earlier
rendition,
it
looked
like
you
were
changing
the
roofline
on
the
historic
structure.
Was
that
just
the
way
that
that
was
sketched
out,
it
looks
like
it
goes
like
the
pitch
is
higher.
P
I
think
that's
perspective.
We
have
no
attention
or
john
has
no
intention
of
changing
the
original
roof,
actually
sunny
ash
on
the
house
brighter,
and
I
think
he
just
put
a
roof
on
it.
So
that'll
be
maintained,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
tie-in
on
the
back,
and
the
only
reason
for
that
is
to
install
the
new
staircase.
E
One
concern
I
have
with
the
the
new
addition
is
just
the
massing
of
it.
You
know
our
guidelines
usually
like
to
see
additions
that
are
more
simple
and
this
one
I
mean
it's
like
double
the
size
of
the
original
house.
E
So,
and
I
understand
you
know
what
you
want
to
do
in
terms
of
living
quarters,
but
burke
can
you
do
you
have
the
like
overhead
view
of
the
new
addition
and
the
existing
that
kind
of
shows
the
massing
conflict
that
I
had.
P
Yeah,
so
if
you
look
at
this,
we're
basically
coming
out
about
nine
few
years
yeah,
you
have
to
remember
this
footprint
very
tight
yeah.
It
was
a
real
challenge
leading
to
these
two
bedrooms
under
the
second
before
the
overall
width
of
this
is
32
feet,
which
is
standard,
two-story
house,
that's
kind
of
typically.
P
We
had
to
go
with
the
water
water
structure
in
order
to
get
you
know,
modern
field
johnson
put
a
specific
amount
of
money
into
the
project,
so
what
I
was
trying
to
do
was
give
you
what
we
wanted
and
time
in
the
course.
The
reason
we
pulled
it
forward
like
this
is
so
that
the
massing
of
it
did
tie
into
the
old
structure
and
made
it
seem
like
it
was
supposed
to
be
that
way,
rather
than
just
falling
off
the
side
of
it.
So
if
you
look
at
the
side,
elevations.
E
Can
you
go
back
to
where
the
new
edition
connects
to
the
historic
house,
so
we
can
see
yeah
so
you're,
leaving
most
of
the
wall,
then
on
the
south
side
of
the
historic
structure
in
place
and
utilizing
one
door
opening?
Is
that
correct,
correct?
Okay?
Is
that
an
existing
door
or
window
opening
that
you're
using
there.
P
I
A
lot:
well,
it's
it's
a
lot,
but
so
the
I
got
a
question
for
you
basic
basic
question.
N
P
P
M
P
Since
neither
property
has
been
maintained,
all
the
water
off
that
roof
has
been
going
into
the
back
wall
of
that
edition,
and
it's
running
out
all
everything.
If
you
look
at
the
siding
pictures
that
I
submitted,
the
site
was
completely
running
off
of
it,
because
we
wondered
how
it's
then
it's
down
to
the
frame
and
after
the
floor
does
so
everything
falls
back
about
two
feet.
I
Or
at
least,
and
then
secondly.
Secondly,
you're
saying
that
the
that
the
rear
of
the
property,
the
addition
in
the
rear
of
the
property,
although
there
may
be
some
elements
to
it
in
a
small
area
that
might
be
historic
old
in
the
1800s,
but
but
the
majority
of
that
rear.
I
I
Searches
of
new
newer
construction
and
you
walk
through
the
porch
and
then
you
get
into
the
older
original
construction.
Yes,
the
historically
spoken
part
of
it
is
the
other
side
of
the
house
which
nobody
can
see
and
has
that
sustained
most
animals,
and
so
in
the
original
in
the
original
portion
of
the
house,
substantial
water
damage
to
all
the
timbers
and
foundation
and
everything
else.
P
I
Damaged
that
to
that,
so
does
that
property
extend
all
the
way
to
the
corner.
P
So
there
will
be
getting
rid
of
the
term,
we
were
told
to
get
historic
approval
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
property
that
will
be
vacated
by
the
city,
possibly
so
this
is
step
one.
I
P
E
P
So
sony
ash-
the
previous
owner
had
supplied
john,
that
purchased
the
house
quite
a
bit
of
material
and
unfortunately,
we
don't
know
whether
it's
wood,
sashes
and
wood
windows,
but
one
of
them
have
been
approved
already
and
those
will
be
installed
in
the
main
part
of
the
house.
P
F
P
And
those
materials
like
I
said,
made
with
property
just
like
there's
half
round
gutters
that
combine
with
property
without.
I
P
H
P
E
Is
there
any
issue
with
flood
mitigation
in
that
lower
level?
The
first
street
you
know.
P
A
So
the
big,
the
big
thing
for
me,
will
be
what
I
mentioned
up
front
as
it
comes
to
the
side
and
you're.
Looking
at
the
front
of
the
house,
I'm
looking
at
the
product-
and
I
now
see
it's
new
addition
and
some
of
that
there,
whereas
our
guidelines
would
say
that
you
shouldn't
see
that
in
your
addition.
A
P
Correct
now
what
I
will
suggest,
though,
that
there
are
other
properties
that
were
built
for
that
time
period
in
madison
that
have
a
similar
appearance.
I
can't
think
of
examples
now,
but.
K
I've
studied
a
lot
of
the
ones
just
got
approved
john
hunts,
his
house
he's
putting
that
other
porch
right
back
there.
It's
got
the
porch
on
the
side
that
comes
out
here,
the
one
john
heights,
just
you
all,
just
looked
at
earlier
john's
house-
has
that
same
look.
It
has
the
front.
This
is
a
single
story.
It
has
the
porch
that
sets
back
on
the
back
back
there,
where
he's
going
to
have
the
main
door
going
into
his
place
back
there.
So
it's
kind
of
the
same
thing
so.
K
Name's
mike
cricket
out
of
919
west
first
street,
I
also
owned
921
923
and
927
all
four
houses
right
there.
That
john
would
be
my
neighbor
to
the
to
the
west.
I've
lived
there.
Well,
I
haven't
lived
there
for
this
whole
time.
I've
owned
the
properties
different
times.
K
It's
always
been
a
an
eyesore.
I
trap
multiple
groundhogs
I
mean
the
foundation
is
destroyed
from
where
the
groundhogs
have
been
going
under
there.
I've
probably
hauled
off
20
groundhogs
in
the
last
seven
or
eight
years,
the
whole
floor
structure
the
shot,
there's
nothing
there
that
could
be
salvageable
at
all.
Like
I'm
saying
about
john
heights,
you
have
that
little
bit
of
offset
on
his.
You
can
drive
around
downtown
and
there's
hundreds
of
them
that
have
that
small
offset.
It's
all
the
way
to
the
back.
None
of
the
addition
comes
out
onto
the
brick.
K
G
K
The
basement,
you
don't
call
a
basement
a
first
floor.
The
first
floor
is
going
to
tie
into
the
first
floor
of
the
two-story
brick
part
there
so
he's
putting
just
a
one-story
addition
on
with
a
basement
in
the
garage
or
the
garage
in
the
basement,
I'm
sorry
and
kind
of
like
the
new
ones,
brian's
building
there
on
the
corner
of
vernon.
You
know
the
basements.
K
G
P
I
P
Is
that
a
three-car
garage,
it's
two
single
cars
and
a
golf
club?
Oh
my.
I
Okay,
residential
guidelines,
demolition,
page
80.,
the
buildings
that
contribute
to
the
historic
residential
character
of
the
historic
district
neighborhoods
are
irreplaceable,
physically
physical
evidence
of
madison's
past
the
loss
of
any
historic
building
affect
not
only
an
individual
building,
but
surrounding
landscapes
as
well.
Demolition
may
be
appropriate.
The
building
does
not
contribute
to
the
historic
character
which
this
one
does.
Applications
for
demolition
should
explore
possibilities
for
selling
using
historic
buildings.
I
Obviously,
in
this
case
it's
not
applicable.
There's
one
last
sentence:
okay,
here
we
go.
The
applicants
should
consider
moth-falling
buildings,
which
involves
developing
a
tragedy
for
ultimate
deterioration,
protecting
vandalism
and
stabilizing
the
building
structure.
Until
such
time
of
proper
rehabilitation
and
restoration
may
commence,
demolition
may
be
appropriate.
The
denial
of
demolition
will
result
in
demonstrable
economic
hardship
on
the
owner.
Maybe
a
building
from
its
historic
location
will
be
recruited
only
of
all
of
our
alternatives.
Preservation
of
the
explorer
demolition
by
neglect
occurs
when
the
building
is
allowed
to
deteriorate
through.
A
I
Yes,
I
do
just
with
the
description
you
have
given
me
on
the
deterioration
of
the
water
infiltration
from
the
neighboring
properties,
new
construction
additions,
page
68,
presidential
dialogues
and
planning
additions.
The
best
approaches
is
to
site
editions
where
they
will
not
be
visible
from
the
street
or
where
they
will
have
the
least
effect
of
the
building's
overall
form
and
plan.
I
The
recommended
approach
for
additions
is
to
reflect
the
characteristics
of
the
current
period
and
design,
but
compatible
with
original,
with
the
original
building.
To
avoid
the
extensive
removal,
damage
and
loss
of
the
historic
material,
and
this
condition
should
keep
the
exterior
walls
of
the
original
buildings
intact
as
as
possible
in
the
exterior
existing
doors
and
window
openings
for
connecting
the.
E
E
I
do
not
agree
that
the
project
is
in
conformance
with
the
guidelines,
one
two
and
six
because
of
the
just
the
massing
that
that's
really
the
only
problem
that
I
have
the
materials
that
we
discussed
all
have
been
approved
and
and
they're
indefinitely
in
compliance
with
our
guidelines,
but
the
massing.
I
have
issue
with.
D
So,
okay,
I
actually
have
a
problem
with
both.
I
think,
as
tom
thomas
says,
that
the
massing
is
a
big
problem.
That's
it's
enormous
and
clearly
in
violation
of
the
guidelines,
but
also
demolition.
Also,
it's
not
fulfilled
the
guidelines.
It
is
historic.
We
don't
have
any
pictures
or
that
show
that
it's
really
in
such
shape
that
it
can't
be
restored.
So
I
have
to
assume
that
it
can
be
since
we
have
been
providing
many
evidence.
Otherwise,
so
I
would
say
no
to
either.
A
This
is
a
different
one
for
me.
You
know
I
go
down
by
that
street.
Quite
a
lot
on
my
own
golf
cart
to
go
by
there
and
this
this
structure
is.
A
Is
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
work?
You
know
it's
always.
You
know
difficult
when
we
start
talking
about
additions
to
you
know
a
historical
structure.
I
think
it's
always
you
know
changes
things,
but
at
the
same
time
looks
like
really
what
you're
really.
A
And
so
you
know,
I
I
I
think
it
you
know
trying
to
keep
as
much
historical
parts
of
this
building.
I
I
think
that
the
demo
was
correct,
you
know
and
doing
the
demo
on
the
back
a
little
bit
behind
there.
I
haven't
seen
the
inside,
but
I
mean
I've
been
behind
what
that
looks
like
and
the
new
construction
could
be
a
little
bit.
You
know
it's
a
little
big
and
robust,
but
there's
a
lot
of
property
there
and
there's
going
to
be.
A
Get
the
variance
then
you're
coming
back
to
the
drawing
board
of
this.
You
know
so
you
know
if
the
city
doesn't
give
you,
the
planning
commission
doesn't
give
you
that
experience.
A
So
I
think
with
that
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
most
of
it.
I
could
probably
agree
with
so.
A
All
right
so
with
that
accept
a
motion.
G
A
With
the
building
materials
that
were
discussed
during
the
meeting
that
you
that
might
brought.
D
I
A
Not
approve
all
right
with
that,
you
get
the
coa
in
the
mail,
so
this
has
been
you
know
approved
because
there
was
not
four
votes
against,
so
you
know
you
will
be
able
to
begin
construction
and
demolition
as
soon
as
you
have
the
proper
voting
we're
going
to
make
sure
it
looks
good
all
right.
Thank
you
guys
appreciate
it.
C
C
You
can
see
interior
pictures
showing
where
the
floor
is
sloped
significantly
from
where
the
addition
attaches
to
the
home
to
the
rear.
C
C
C
And
then
you
can
see
there
on
the
rear
edition,
so
some
of
the
changes,
because
the
structural
damage
and
deterioration
on
that
the
proposal
is
to
remove
that
remove
the
fence.
The
rear
chimney
has
been,
has
collapsed
and
is
only
about
the
third
or
probably
a
little
less
than
a
third
standing,
and
that
rare
addition
has
separated
from
the
primary
structure.
C
So
you
can
see
on
the
front
elevation.
The
plans
are
to
repair
and
reinstall
the
decorative
garage
board
and
cordless
tuck,
pointing
and
repair
of
the
chimney
in
the
support
of
a
gas
fireplace,
and
that
is
the
northern
chimney
just
to
clarify
replacing
all
the
windows
single
hung
with
whatever
ones.
The
front
and
rear
doors
will
both
be
repaired
and
reused.
C
C
F
So
brooke
and
I
watched
a
presentation
from
expert
in
philadelphia,
and
he
said
the
thing
I've
never
thought
of
before
then
is
that
the
sash
should
recognize
what
the
previous
sash,
so
the
windows
should
look
alike,
even
if
they
are
different
materials
so
that
the
home
keeps
some
kind
of
presentation,
but
so
good
windows.
So
how
much
does
it
cost
to
fix?
A
window?
G
F
G
F
F
So
the
lexington
boys,
the
least
included
storms
in
theirs,
the
louisville
guys
who
are
doing
crystal
beach.
I
thought
they
just
charged
me
twelve
thousand
dollars
to
fix
the
sashes
fix
the
sills,
so.
F
E
F
H
F
F
H
F
E
Kim,
would
you
consider
replacing
all
13
windows
with
the
vinyl
clad.
F
F
F
D
F
D
D
I
I
F
G
C
Okay,
so
there's
one
two
on
that
south
side.
I
think
there's.
F
D
D
A
D
Yeah,
okay,
so
so
the
other
option
is
repairing
them
and
you
don't
have
to
do
it
all
at
once
and
since
you're,
if
you'd
be
repairing
instead
of
replacing,
you
would
not
even
have
to
come
in
front
of
the
boards.
It
wouldn't
have
to
come
up
here
and
they
can
be
preserved
like
they
are
by
putting
every
relatively
inexpensive
inexpensive,
modern
storm
on
the
outside,
just
to
protect
it
from
any
weather,
any
further
deterioration.
So
I
know
that's
not
what
usually
happens.
D
I'd
like
to
change
our
habits
in
this
town,
where
we
start
following
the
guidelines
and
actually
repairing
these
kind
of
windows,
rather
than
just
tearing
them
out
and
replacing
them
with
something
new,
because
once
you
repair
that
that
can
be
repaired
again
in
like
20
years,
when
it
gets
bad
again
that
can
be
repaired.
These
new
windows
you
put
in
as
the
person
before
you
said
once
they
break
a
spring
or
a
piece
of
plastic
and
breaks.
You
just
throw
it
out
and
get
a
whole
new
thing.
D
E
E
Yeah,
so
I
think
I
see
three
chimneys
one
in
the
central
one
in
the
the
decorative
one
and
then
this
one
that
is
between
that
addition,
you're
going
to
tear
off
yeah.
So
I
am
in
agreement,
I
mean
that's
totally,
not
functional
the
one
in
the
central
part
of
the
house.
I
believe
you
should
keep.
E
F
E
M
I
So
the
chimney:
that's
on
the
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
in
the
middle
of
the
house
right.
It
appears
to
me
that
that
it
doesn't
look
original
to.
F
E
F
E
E
Yeah
chimneys
contribute
to
the
structures,
architectural
character.
They
should
be
maintained
repaired
if
unstable,
they
should
be
rebuilt,
and
I
think
that
to
remove
it
would
not
be
in
conformance
with
guidelines
one
through
three
and
so
chimney
should
be
not
be
removed,
altered
or
if
original
or
architecturally
significant.
E
If
the
chimney
becomes
unstable
or
is
already
collapsed,
it
should
be
rebuilt
to
match
the
original
design
front.
Porch
columns
and
the
brick
railings
porch,
columns
and
railings
should
be
retained
and
maintained.
However,
we
have
discussed
this
on
previous
houses
that
these
were
probably
added
at
a
later
date.
G
E
Let's
see
historic
buildings
are
evidence
to
madison
historic
past.
I
think
it's
quite
obvious
that
the
demolition
of
that
back
edition
is
in
such
poor
condition
and
not
original,
probably
to
the
house.
So
I
believe
that
the
demolition
of
the
rear
edition
is
in
conformance
with
the
guidelines.
E
It
is
not
historic
and
it
is
in
total
disrepair.
It
will
not
result
in
loss
of
historic
materials
to
the
existing
house
and
will
also
restore
the
appearance
of
the
home.
E
So
I
believe
that
you
know
the
that
is
in
conformance
and
then
the
last
one.
The
windows
windows
are
prominent
components.
They
should
be
retained,
maintained
and
repaired
as
needed.
80
of
the
existing
window
should
be
deteriorated
and
if
they
are,
then
wood
or
aluminum
plaid
windows
are
appropriate.
Snap
on
buttons
do
not
replicate
the
historic
appearance.
E
I
don't
think
that
this
is
in
conformance
with
window
guidelines,
one
three
and
five,
because
the
replacement
of
all
the
windows
with
vinyl
are
not
appropriate
replacements,
and
I,
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
consider
one
of
the
other
options.
I
know
they're
more
expensive,
but
I
don't
believe
that
using
vinyl
is
going
to
be
compliant
with
our
guidelines.
Our
current
guidelines.
G
G
B
E
We
have
to
either
approve
all
of
it
or
deny
all
of
it
right.
Okay,
I
do
not
approve
so
you'll
get.
A
Your
coa
in
the
middle,
because
it's
against
so
thank
you
so
much
again
as
long
as
you
get
the
building
permits
to
just
make
sure.
Thank
you
ken
all
right.
Our
last
application
on
is
820.
Fillmore
street
you've
been
waiting
very
patiently
there.
A
Q
C
C
However,
I
do
want
to
note
that
staff
disagrees
with
that
and
would
put
the
approximate
date
between
1927
to
1937.,
but
it
is
a
gable
front
jenny.
Can
you
explain
why?
Yes,
before
okay.
A
C
So
when
the
survey
was
done
that
we
currently
use
the
house
was
completely
plaid
and
vinyl
and
that
disguised
the
historic
character
now
that
this
work
has
been
done,
it's
uncovered
original
historic
wood,
siding
and
some
other
features
of
the
house.
Looking
at
up
on
closer
inspection,
looking
at
the
way
that
the
materials
and
the
construction
is
the
building
elements,
it
it's
an
approximate
date
of
late
20s
to
30s,
mid
30s.
Q
C
All
right,
the
coach.
M
G
C
A
Q
Q
Q
C
Q
C
This
could
include
the
previously
approved
three-foot
edition
they're
wanting
an
additional
two
feet
due
to
the
floor
plan
of
this
bathroom
and
the
necessity
for
it
to
be
handicap
accessible.
But
that
is
the
application.
N
E
In
an
earlier
picture,
I'm
looking
at
that
door.
That's
under
the
that
looks
like
a
newer
bag,
but.
B
Q
G
E
Q
Q
E
And
so
I
see
you
have
a
standing,
seam
roof
it
from
earlier
pictures.
It
looks
like
it's
in
really
bad
shape.
Is
it
I'm
guessing
it
can't
be
repaired
or
can
it
oh.
Q
E
Have
you
considered
or
would
you
consider
using
lp
sighting
I've.
Q
C
G
G
C
G
C
C
A
A
I
need
a
bigger
bathroom
than
that,
so
all
right,
so
with
that
owen,
do
you
want
to
divide
these
passports.
D
All
right,
okay,
doors
and
entrances,
okay,
so
historic
doors
should
be
retained
and
preserved.
You
have
one
that
you're
not
preserving
and
retaining,
but
it
is
not
visible
really
from
any
public
right
of
way
and
it
would
be
awkward
given
where
it
is
because
it
will
look
very
different
than
the
door
on
the
same
wall.
So
I
think
well,
I
guess
I'll
give
you
my
opinion
here,
but
I
think
that's
permissible.
D
Deteriorator
damage
historic
doors,
but
that's
not
applicable
here,
missing
or
slowly
damaged
doors
should
be
replaced.
Examples
that
represent
the
original
placement
doors
might
be
a
painted
panel
water,
the
urine
fiber
glasses.
I
forgot
what
you
said:
the
material
of
your
new
doors
is
going
to
be
yeah.
D
Storm
girls
you're
not
talking
about
security
guards
or
not.
Okay,
now
demo
we're
skipping
down
the
demo
now
okay
of
the
west
wall,
so
is
that
the
only
thing
that
was
the
west.
Q
E
Q
D
D
D
D
New
construction
there
we
go.
I
see,
that's
why
I
don't
have
here
yeah,
so
should
we
locate
it,
the
new
dish
should
be
located
to
the
rear,
so
that
would
be
adding
to
the
front
not
being
with
the
guidelines.
But
this
is
quite
a
minor
alteration.
I
would
say.
D
D
D
G
Q
O
E
D
And
then
signing
citing,
I
don't
think
we
have
to
go
through
everything,
citing
he's
he's
going
from
clabbered
siding
to
born
in
batten,
which
is
a
different
style
and
he's
staying
with
vinyl,
but
it
is
complete
removal
of
what
was
there
and
replacing
with
a
different
style.
So
to
me,
that
is,
in
violation
of
the
guidelines
and
spinal
is
not
approved.
B
E
Well,
with
the
siding
I
mean
vinyl
the
vinyl,
even
though
it's
bored
and
madden
it's
like
splitting
hairs
to
me.
So
I
would.
I
think,
though,
that
I'm
going
to
agree
with
with
owen
on
this
okay.
G
A
E
And
filling
that
in
and
putting
a
new
door
two
to
three
feet
to
the
west
of
that
door
or
what
is
that
north
that
will
match
the
french
doors
next
to
it?
Okay,
so.
A
C
So
february
fast
tracks,
I
did
an
approval,
for
it.
Blue
will
fade
at
109,
east
maine
for
a
fabric,
awning
sign
for
zachary
lee
at
101,
east
main
for
a
projecting
sign
and
vinyl
window
signs
for
john
de
luca
at
210,
west,
2nd
street
for
exterior
storms
and
for
rodney
pettit
at
901,
west
first
street
for
new
aluminum,
clad
windows
to
match
historic
openings.
We
did
have
photographic
evidence
of
that
and
then
february
2021
cla
review
the
court
meets
at
709.
East
first
street
builds
a
new
garage.
C
It
has
been
done
kim
and
jeff
bernard
at
506
east
main,
the
12
by
16
foot.
Porch,
that's
been
done,
charles
request
at
737
jefferson
to
demo
a
shed
that
has
been
done.