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Description
City of Madison PACE Grant Committee
A
A
A
Typically,
a
cost
to
the
community
in
Madison
we've
chosen
a
different
plan
which
provides
benefits
to
all
citizens
instead
of
spending,
big
bucks
to
tear
down
old
or
degraded
properties,
and
thus
destroy
our
historic
nature
of
our
community.
We
have
chosen
to
provide
a
little
money
via
public-private
Partnerships,
to
incentivize
the
owners
of
those
properties
to
invest
in
them,
thus
resulting
in
far
better
outcomes.
That
would
be
the
result
of
government-only
solutions.
A
Some
of
the
benefits
to
the
public
are
unsafe.
Properties
are
made
safe,
property
values,
increase,
additional
housing
is
developed
and,
frankly,
we
have
a
much
better.
Looking
community
I
speak
to
visitors
to
Madison
every
weekend.
They
all
notice
how
well-capped
our
community
is.
This
brings
back
tourists
who
do
business
in
our
stores
and
restaurants,
as
well
as
the
hotels
and
bnbs
bringing
many
dollars
to
into
the
local
economy.
A
At
our
next
meeting,
which
will
be
on
July
11th,
we
will
have
will
be
begin
to
approach
the
end
of
our
funding
for
this
year.
Based
on
the
history
of
this
year,
I'd
say:
there's
a
very
good
chance
that
the
requests
will
exceed
our
funding.
So
I
see
a
need
for
us
at
this
time
to
determine
for
that
meeting.
If
we
do
exceed
the
funding,
how
we
score
those
applications,
because
we
can
only
fund
up
to
the
amount
of
money
that
we
have.
B
A
C
Guttering
on
the
shelter
and
also
to
do
some
point
tucking
on
the
shelter
we
were
able
to
get
the
guttering
done.
So
that's
been
that's
been
done,
and
so
we've
got
our
funding.
Some
of
our
funding
has
not
been
there
to
do
the
point
talking
and
then
we've
had
some
issues
with
the
contractor
and
everything,
and
so
so
we're
just
asking
that
we
just
go
with
the
gutter
guards
that
have
already
been
replaced
on
the
shelter.
That
was
one
of
our
main
concerns
with
the
water
coming
in
shelter.
A
C
A
Right
so
that
would
reduce
the
the
grant
award
from
7
500,
which
was
the
original
Grant
down
to
3750.
Yes,.
D
E
I
will
just
note
for
the
record,
while
they've
turned
in
the
final
report,
it
has
not
been
submitted
for
a
disbursement.
It's
pending
URLs
a
vote
on
this
matter
before
it
goes
before
the
Board
of
Public
Works.
For
that.
B
I'd
make
a
motion:
we
accept
the
Amendment.
A
A
A
Okay,
with
that
we'll
move
on
to
new
applications
and
before
we
get
started
in
new
applications,
I
want
to
review
the
process
just
very
quickly
with
everyone.
As
we
talk
about,
is
your
specific
application.
We'll
have
you
come
up
and
we'll
have
questions
for
you
ask
you
to
discuss
your
application.
If
and
as
the
application
is
discussed,
we'll
ask
specific
questions.
A
All
projects
end
up
being
scored
on
a
Matrix
that
we
have
and
then
based
on
the
scoring
of
that
Matrix.
There
is
a
minimum
score
for
each
type
of
Grant
and,
if
you've
qualified
for
the
minimum
score,
then,
assuming
that
the
committee
votes
to
move
these
grants,
these
applications
on
that
have
scored
High
Enough.
Then
they
will
go
before
the
Board
of
Public
Works.
We
don't
actually
approve
the
grants.
A
We
make
a
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Public
Works,
who
then
approves
the
grants
for
our
funding
and
again
the
grant
is
a
refund
Grant,
so
you're
going
to
do
the
work
prior
to
receiving
the
money
and
of
course
you
can't
begin
that
work
until
the
Board
of
Public
Works
gives
approval.
Although
their
meeting
is
next
Monday.
E
A
It'll
be
three
weeks
out
before
they
make
the
agenda
for
the
Board
of
Public
Works
with
that
is
somebody
here
to
speak
to
319
East,
Main
Street.
G
G
We
have,
we
would
like
to
there's
an
overhead
garage
door
in
the
back
where
the
out
the
alley
the
owls
meet
at
the
cross,
and
it
has
graffiti
on
it.
It's
vinyl
and
it's
it's
several
years
old
and
it's
just.
We
can't
hardly
operate
it
and
we
would
like
to
replace
that
and
our
gutters
I
don't
know
if
you
have
all
the
pictures
that
I
have.
They
have
several
holes
in
them
and
we
would
like
to
replace
those
as
well.
So
we
applied
for
a
grant
for
that.
G
A
The
the
replacement
overhead
door
is
a
different
look
than
what
you
currently
have
yeah.
G
A
So
has
that
been
reviewed
with
the
historic
board,
or
does
it
need
to
be
Nicole.
E
A
G
I
believe
so,
yes,
yeah,
I,
think
they're
a
half
round,
Galvin
galvaloon
gutters
with
elbows
downspouts
and
Hangers
yeah.
So.
B
A
G
A
Like
replacement
doesn't
need
to
be
approved
by
Board
of
Public
historic
review,
okay
I'm
just
I'm
concerned
about
the
door.
Okay,.
E
D
H
A
It's
about
about
a
40
request
that
we
have
and
purpose
of
the
property
that
that's
your
all's
business.
Is
it
not?
Yes,.
G
We
we
have
our
Prickett
properties.
Is
there
we
rent
the
U-Hauls
there.
Then
we
also
rent
the
side
office
to
a
small
business.
Jessica,
remember
our
last
name
but
yeah.
There's
three
businesses
there.
Now.
Oh,
we
also
sell
the
golf
cart.
Sorry.
A
A
A
All
right
is
anybody
here
to
address
510,
Mulberry
Street.
H
And
sharp
I'm,
a
member
of
central
Holdings,
which
owns
the
property
we've
been
working
on
this
property
since
2020
started
with
roof
replacement,
chimney
tuck
pointing
cleaning
up
that
concrete
work,
repainting
the
front
black
Iron
I'm
kind
of
at
the
point
now,
where
I
need
some
help,
so
we're
going
to
do
repaint
the
entire
exterior
of
the
building
and
we
are
going
to
repair
all
of
the
windows,
they're
all
windows,
that
most
of
them
have
storms,
so
I
think
we
can
salvage
most
of
them.
H
So
I
don't
think.
I
did
have
two
the
basis
of
the
quote
from
regarding
the
repair
of
the
windows.
The
wood
windows
was
based
on
I.
Had
him
come
out
and
fix
two
windows
to
try
to
get
an
idea
of
what
he
was
going
to
be
getting
into.
He
thinks
it's
going
to
take
at
least
two
to
three
days
on
each
side
of
the
building
to
repair
each
of
the
wood
windows.
So
that's
how
he
came
up
with
the
with
the
quote:
I.
B
A
And
once
this
is
complete,
what
will
the
purpose
of
that
building
be?
It.
H
A
H
H
A
Okay,
7
23,
East,
First,
Street.
J
Well,
it's
basically
replacing
replacement
windows
that
have
gone
bad
over
the
years
and
I'm
going
with
glass,
unlimited
and
they're
aluminum,
clad
wood
is
what
I'll
be
using,
and
the
there's
one
by
six
casing
around
those
windows.
Now
that
are
totally
rotted.
Some
of
the
pictures
I
think
you
can
see
that
it's
going
to
be
replaced
with
a
composite
one
by
six.
J
So
and
they'll
also
be
you
know,
white
just
like
what
was
there
but
yeah
going
with
black
aluminum
aluminum
with
three
over
three
grids,
which
I
was
told,
is
appropriate
for
that
house.
A
And
at
this
stage
of
the
game,
do
we
have
a
historic
Board
of
approval
on
the
you.
D
A
J
Well,
it's
not
a
corner
so,
and
there
is
a
garage
at
the
end
of
the
lot.
So
it's
actually
two.
M
A
Okay,
so
tell
us
about
the
project.
L
So
this
is
a
duplex
on
First
Street
that
my
brother
and
I
just
currently
bought
not
too
long
ago,
and
and
it's
it's
in
pretty
rough
shape,
if
you
guys
have
driven
by
or
city
building
inspector,
has
deemed
an
unsafe
property,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
getting
some
some
previous
tenants
out
of
there
before
we
start
construction,
and
so
the
the
plan
is
to
to
completely
redo
both
of
the
homes
into
the
original
footprint
of
what
they
are
now
with
approved
materials
from
the
historical
board,
so
replacing
all
the
windows
with
the
aluminum
clad
wood
windows,
Smart
Siding
on
the
side,
a
brand
new
roof.
L
The
back
of
the
property
on
both
sides
is
where
the
utility
slash
kitchen
is
for
both
of
them
and
we're
hoping
we
can
salvage
those.
But
we
may
have
to
completely
tear
those
down
depending
on
what
type
of
shape
they're
in
once
we
get
inside.
If
that
is
the
case,
then
we
will
rebuild
back
where
that
footprint
is.
A
A
But
you're
going
back
in
with
composite
correct.
A
And
I'm
going
to
treat
these
individually
okay,
so
right
now,
looking
at
the
first
one,
which
was
912.,
your
total
project
is
estimated
at
125,
000.,
correct
and
you're
you're,
applying
for
a
grant
of
25
000
on
it
as
a
as
a
dilapidated
structure.
Yes-
and
you
say
you
have
gotten,
the
city
inspector
has
deemed
that
as
an
unsafe
property.
Correct.
Yes,
sir.
L
That's
the
plan
right
now,
I
believe
we're
going
to
have
I,
say
short-term
rentals.
Sometimes
that
ends
up.
You
know
going
to.
L
A
L
B
N
N
N
A
B
A
Now
is
this
ural's
residence?
Yes,
it
is.
A
I
Evening,
yes,
Jacqueline,
Fraser
and
I
own,
a
property
at
606,
West,
3rd
Street,
I'm
having
the
house
painted
and
they
will
scrape
the
loose
pain
and
fill
were
necessary,
take
out,
take
off
the
storm
windows
and
replace
those
and
I'm
getting
a
new
front
door,
which
is
not
a
standard
sized
door.
So
they
have
to
put
wood
on
the
sides
and
the
top
and
the
storm
door,
which
is
a
standard
size.
I
A
F
F
I
I
A
D
D
E
O
Venom
and
I'm
applying
for
one
of
your
project
grants.
O
Imagine
you
have
a
essay
of
what
I'm
trying
to
do.
Place
seven
windows
and
I
have
the
replace
the
transom
over
the
two
doors.
O
D
O
B
D
A
So
your
project
is
priced
at
14,
653.78.
A
I,
don't
see
an
itemization
on
the
on
the
shrubs.
Oh,
do
you
have
any
idea
what
that
organization.
O
A
A
Okay,
so
your
your
your
project
amount
is
14
653.70,
yes,
sir
and
you're
requesting
a
grand
amount
of
seven
seventy,
three
hundred
twenty
six
dollars
and
80
cents.
Yes,.
O
B
K
I'm
Brooke
Newby,
the
owner
of
the
home.
K
We
do
have
approval
for
those
aluminum,
Wood,
Cloud
windows
and
also
to
there's
some.
It's
all
aluminum
siding
right
now
there
are
some
damaged
parts.
We
do
plan
to
replace
those
with
aluminum
and
then
paint
the
house,
it's
all
kind
of
discolored
Sun
damaged
and
we'll
need
new,
gutters
and
downspouts,
and
then
just
sanding
and
repainting.
All
the
chipped
areas
around
the
door
frames
and
windows.
D
K
B
A
Okay,
760
West
3rd
Street.
P
A
So
tell
us
what
what
you're
doing.
P
We
want
to
basically
take
the
paint
off
of
the
brick
kind
of
bring
it
back
to
Bear,
brick,
mostly
in
the
Western
Wall
on
the
Southern.
Wall
probably
would
like
to
be
done
to
match,
and
then
there
are
two
well
there's:
the
door
frame
is
kind
of
coming
apart.
It's
a
wooden
door
frame,
it'll
be
put
back
wood
and
then
the
the
window
on
the
Western
Wall
is
basically
aluminum.
P
You
know
it's
flat
up
against
the
surface.
You
know
it's
been
that
way.
We've
been
living
there
18
years
it
probably
well
I
have
no
idea
why
it's
that
way,
but
that
doesn't
seem
very
historic
to
me
so
we're
we
would
like
to
have
an
annual
put
in
there
and
I
believe
make
it
wood
framed
if
possible,
but
the
contractor
was
not
quite
sure
what
happened
when
he
opened
up
the
that
aluminum.
P
You
know
flashing,
that's
around
there,
so
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
an
unknown
the
the
moisture,
because
the
paint
the
way
the
paint
doesn't
really
let
water
you
get
out.
It's
kind
of
coming
into
the
house
on
the
inside
of
the
house
there's
actually
a
lot
of
water
damage
from
whatever
water
gets
into
the
wall.
A
And
is
that
gonna?
Are
you
all
planning
to
do
any
tuck
pointing
after
you
get
the
paint
off.
P
Don't
think
it
has
don't
think
I
did
that
so
I'll
have
to
do
that,
but
I'll
we're
not
really
changing
anything
except
for
the
window.
That
might
hopefully
be
an
improvement
in
the
board
size.
P
P
P
No,
our
our
driveways
are
to
the
west
side
of
it.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
gap
in
the
houses,
but
that's
not
an
alley.
D
A
A
I
I
would
think
because
of
that
window
in
the
back
or
that
window
that
you're
changing
the
style
on
that'll
need
to
be
approved
by
the
board.
Yeah.
E
Any
application
that
has
not
already
received
a
CFA
for
work
and
needs
it.
Your
approval
would
be
contingent
on
them
receiving
that
prior
to
Construction.
A
A
All
right
do
we
have
someone
here
to
speak
to
956,
West,
2nd.
A
So
tell
us
about
your
your
project.
Q
P
Q
A
F
We
have
been
advised
by
Landon,
Ralston
and
Mr
O'neill
that
the
building
needs
to
come
down.
So
we
got
a
bid
from
a
con
local
contractor
and
now
I
think
you're,
the
only
folks
that
have
to
say,
okay.
A
Well
again,
we
make
a
recommendation
But.
Ultimately,
it's
the
Board
of
Public
Works
that
that
approves
any
grant
that
we
recommend.
F
I
D
B
A
A
Okay,
6
23,
Broadway
Street.
M
I
got
an
unsafe
structure
letter
as
well
and
I
the
project
and
it
was
deemed
unsafe
and
I
did
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
what
I
planned
to
do
right
now,
I
mean
it's
a
complete
demolition.
You
know
and
I'm
salvaged
everything
that
I
can
Salvage
and
reuse
which
I've
done
before,
and
so
we're
going
to
work
with
the
foundation
tuck,
pointing
and
stabilizing
that
area.
There's
some
Stone
areas
that
need
to
be
relayed
and
a
lot
of
Tuck
pointing
on
the
inside
and
the
outside.
M
M
A
And
your
your
estimated
project
here
is
150
000.
M
All
the
way
to
the
ground
I
mean
you
know,
the
foundation
will
stay,
we're
just
it
needs
to
be
repaired.
It's
got
a
lot
of
damage,
but
we'll
keep
what's
good,
but
you
know
we've
already.
You
know
done
a
lot
of
the
demo
and
there's
a
lot
more
damage
that
we've
uncovered
so.
A
And
you've
got
full
approval
from
the
historic
board
from.
B
R
R
R
And
the
project
has
not
been
approved
by
the
or
reviewed
by
the
historical.
As
far
as
I
know,.
A
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
if
he's
doing
like
for
like
these,
should
be
good
to
go,
should
he.
E
A
Okay,
very
good.
The
only
thing
I
see
in
your
worksheet
that
I
have
questions
on
is
the
gate
on
the
sidewalk.
We
don't
typically
do
fencing
or
that
that's
okay
520..
A
That
would
knock
your
your
your
task,
your
your
budget,
down
to
90,
9,
300.,
okay
and,
of
course,
we
change
the
the
grant
finances
slightly
sure.
R
I
shouldn't
say:
it's
not
totally
inevitable
I'm
staying
there
tonight,
but
it's
not
pretty.
The
eventual
plan
is
for
this
to
be
a
part-time
residence.
For
me,
I
teach
up
at
the
college.
A
A
S
Good
evening
my
name
is
Schwartz.
I
wrote
the
letter
that
you
referred
to
earlier
in
the
Courier
a
few
weeks
back
I
apologize.
If
my
letter
came
across
as
doubting
the
benefits
or
value
of
the
PACE
program.
That
was
absolutely
not
my
intention.
I
fully
support
the
PACE
program
and
helping
the
community
improve
itself.
I
live
a
few
blocks
that
way
it
benefits
all
of
us
in
the
room.
S
My
only
concern
and
the
reason
I
wrote.
The
letter
is
to
protect
you
from
somebody
taking
advantage
of
your
generosity,
Let's
Pretend,
the
following
scenario:
happens:
an
owner
of
a
dilapidated
structure
applies
to
you
for
a
grant.
He
puts
up
25
000
you
put
up
25
000.
He
does
some
work
on
the
house.
S
He
sells
it
for
fifty
thousand
dollars.
He
takes
that
fifty
thousand
and
he
moves
to
Florida.
So
part
of
the
money
is
his,
but
part
is
yours
and
part
of
that
came
from
taxes.
So
it's
a
misuse
of
tax
money
and
part
of
it
is
simply
he's
removing
your
money
from
the
community.
Whereas
all
of
us
we
want
that
money
to
benefit
the
community.
So
my
only
question
is:
how
do
we
prevent
that
scenario
from
happening.
A
Well,
my
initial
reaction
is
that,
as
a
practical
matter,
when
a
dilapidated
structure
comes
before
us,
inevitably
the
applicant
is
putting
no
less
than
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
it,
typically
they're
putting
more
in
terms
of
three
hundred
thousand
or
more
into
it.
By
the
time
their
project
is
complete
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
the
only
thing
that
would
prevent
that
from
happening.
Quite
frankly,
is
a
simple,
practical
aspect
of
being
able
to
complete
a
project
for
fifty
thousand
dollars.
A
It's
it's
simply
impractical
in
today's
in
today's
Financial
World,
given
the
conditions
that
are
necessary
for
it
to
be
deemed
a
dilapidated
structure
in
the
program
that
we're
running
here,
I
I
I'm
sure
you
observed
today.
The
vast
majority
of
the
applicants
we
had
today
were
actually
homeowners
that
intend
to
live
in
the
property
we
do
occasionally
have
somebody
come
before
the
board,
that
is
repairing
a
dilapidated
structure
and
their
intent
is
to
flip
it
and
they're
honest
with
us.
A
They
tell
us
that's
what
their
intent
is,
but
when
we
look
at
the
overall
project
and
again
no
monies
are
are
given
out
until
the
project
is
complete.
When
we
look
at
the
overall
project,
inevitably
they're
putting
250
300
000
into
the
project,
now
we
had
a
couple
here
that
they're
going
to
be
putting
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
project
and
they're
both
dilapidated
structures,
but
they're
also
going
to
use
one
as
a
as
a
as
a
residence
and
one
as
a
rental.
So
you
know
the
fun.
A
So
somebody
who
intends
to
live
in
that
property
does
get
a
higher
score
than
somebody
who's
going
to
rent
it
out
or
someone
who's
going
to
flip
it,
and
the
minimum
scoring
has
been
tightened
up
this
year.
So
it's
more
difficult
to
reach
that
minimum
score
now.
The
truth
of
the
matter
is
most
of
the
projects
that
come
before
us
have
been
vetted
well
enough
by
staff
before
they
ever
come
before
us
that
the
scenario
you're
describing
would
be
pretty
well
eliminated
before
it
ever
came
before
us.
A
But
again,
we
pretty
well
know
what
those
what
the
purposes
of
those
Pro
of
those
properties
are
before
we
ever
do
the
review.
However,
the
review
is
important
because
we
want
to
hear
from
the
property
owner
what
they're
doing
with
it,
how
they're
doing
it
and
that
they've
considered
the
materials
they're
using
and
so
on.
S
A
S
E
Good
question
so
currently,
all
of
our
Revenue,
all
of
our
income
is
from
some
sort
of
tax
Levy,
there's
about
a
hundred
thousand
from
the
city
council,
Appropriations,
300
000
from
Tiff
taxi
financing
district
allocations,
and
then
we
have
a
45
000
provided
by
the
Jefferson
County
Commissioners
through
one
of
their
funds
as
part
of
our
analytical
on
the
jail
project.
E
B
B
B
You
know
the
things
that
that
have
been
accomplished
through
this
program,
just
unbelievable
to
me
and
I'm,
a
rookie
on
the
committee
along
with
Lisa,
but
now
I'm
proud
to
be
a
member
of
this
committee.