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City of Madison PACE Grant Committee
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There
is
a
score
sheet:
that's
been
developed
and
based
on
your
application,
each
one
of
us
will
separately
score
your
project
mm-hmm
and
there
is
a
minimum
score
to
be
eligible
for
a
grant
based
on
the
average
of
or
the
total
of
the
three
score
sheets.
Then,
based
on
that,
we
will
make
a
recommendation.
We
don't
actually
approve
the
grants.
We
make
a
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Public
Works
they're,
the
the
group
that
actually
approves
the
grants.
You
all
do
not
need
to
be
at
that
meeting.
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Do
that
we'll
do
this?
Those
are
historic,
Windows,
okay,
historic
glasses
and
everything.
What
you
need
is
this
story
coming,
oh
okay,
yeah
I'm,
going
to
keep
them,
go
back
to
the
same
size
and
everything
they're
large
they're,
larger
than
the
normal
size.
Now
that
the
doors
I'm
gonna
have
a
door,
that's
larger
than
what
the
door
is
in
it.
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I'm
going
to
replace
the
front
windows,
Second
Story,
there's
three
of
them:
I
believe
they're,
nine
foot
by
four
they're
older
than
dirt
they're
about
to
fall
in
and
I,
don't
think
they
can
be
repaired.
I've
had
them
looked
at
in
the
past,
I've
been
there
31
years
so
I've
had
them
done
twice
thing
to
be
done
again:
I've
sent
pictures
to
Brooke
and
Nicole
so
I.
Let
them
be
the
judge
of
that.
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All
right
so
to
kind
of
bring
everyone
up
to
speed
on
this
project.
We
applied
for
the
dilapidated
structures.
Grant
back
in
I
believe
was
January.
It
was
the
last
Pace
meeting
and
I
think
we
barely
missed
the
recommendation
by
Point
which,
which
actually
for
me,
turned
out
to
be
a
good
thing,
because
I
was
able
to
go
back
and
look
at
some
of
the
historic
significance
of
that
area.
K
If
you
want
to
turn
to
page
three
page,
two
is
just
an
outline
of
the
Georgetown
neighborhood
again,
but
page
three
kind
of
shows.
The
progress
of
where
we're
at
the
top
left
photograph
is
a
image
of
the
before
photo.
You
can
see
that
the
vinyl
siding
covered
the
entire
structure.
We
went
ahead
and
removed
that
siding
to
reveal
what
we
have
in
the
top
right
photo
there.
So
we
have
all
most
of
that
siding.
K
There
is
the
original
clapboard,
with
the
exception
of
a
few
of
the
discolored
pieces,
were
filled
in
later,
but
they
were
actually
a
fairly
good
match.
I
think
they
were
when
I
spoke
with
a
few
of
the
historic
experts
in
town,
they
were
matched
with
the
correct
wood,
so
we
may
end
up
keeping
those
as
well,
but
I
would
say
about
90
percent
of
that
is
the
original
clapboard
from
experts.
It's
experts
that
we
spoke
with
in
town
and
Below.
You
can
see
the
bottom
and
the
left.
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The
bottom
left
is
where
we
began,
and
the
bottom
right
is
where
we're
at
so,
although
we've
not
we've,
basically
only
stabilized
the
front
portion
of
the
structure,
but
you
can
see,
we've
already
significantly
put
a
lot
of
investment
in
the
addition
of
the
structure,
which
is
the
new
construction
portion.
You
can
see
on
the
top
right
where
we
actually
added
about
500
square
feet
to
add
two
additional
bedrooms
that
will
Encompass
additional
rental
space
which
we'll
cover
in
the
next
page.
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So
if
we
can
just
get
folks
to
turn
to
page
four,
what
I've
outlined
here
are
nine
bullet
points
of
things
that
we
have
updated
since
last
application,
I'll
admit:
there's
several
mistakes
on
my
part
for
the
initial
application
in
January,
one
being
we
didn't
have
an
unsafe
letter
from
the
city.
We
weren't
aware
that
that
was
something
that
was
conducted
I,
believe
that's
a
newer
Edition
this
year,
but
we
were
happy
to
work
with
Landon
and
get
one
of
those,
because
it
was
definitely
definitely
in
that
category.
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So
we
do
have
that
and
I
have
a
copy
of
that
with
me.
If
we
need
that.
Secondly,
one
thing
that
you
know
I
think
that
we
really
want
to
get
more
aligned
with
the
city
on
is
I.
Think
we'd
asked
to
keep
the
existing
plan
of
having
vinyl
windows
and
upgrade
them
to
woodclad
at
a
later
year
to
save
on
cost.
But
we
went
back
and
spoke
with
a
lot
of
different
folks,
and
you
know
basically,
my
lack
of
historical
knowledge
and
the
you
know.
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K
For
it
from
the
city
and
we're
still
in
talks
about
whether
we're
going
to
go
with
a
six
over
six
or
a
one
over
one,
unfortunately
I'm,
not
really
a
window
expert,
we're
still
trying
to
find
some
historic
photographs
of
Walnut
Street
to
see
it
would
be
appropriate
for
that
Federal
style,
but
we
do
have
the
COA
for
that.
The
next
thing
that's
changed
is
you
know,
I
want
to
I.
Think
I
didn't
do
a
good
job
of
pointing
out
the
original
architectural
elements
that
we'll
be
preserving.
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K
There,
those
would
be
reverted
to
historically
appropriate
aluminum-clad
wood
and
the
door
with
the
metal
or
aluminum
storm
door
in
the
it's.
Also,
a
metal
door
would
be
replaced
with
a
period
appropriate
wood
door.
That's
also
we
have
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
so
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
clapboard
siding,
which
is
original
architectural
elements
that
we
would
like
to
preserve.
If.
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Could
but
it's
a
very
labor-intensive
proposition
for
sure
and
then
also
item
six
524
Walnut
Street
was
awarded
a
dangerous
structure
Grant
and
it
was
demolished
since
the
last
meeting
and
today
and
you
can
see
from
photographs
Below
on
page
four
there
on
the
left-
that,
with
the
absence
of
that
building,
it
has
actually
gained
visibility
from
the
alley.
The
photograph
next
to
that
is
a
Google
Maps
printout,
showing
the
orientation
of
where
that
photograph
was
taken.
K
It
can
also
be
seen
from
the
rear
saddle,
Tree
Lane,
which
was
there's
photographs
in
the
original
January
meeting,
highlighting
those.
The
next
item
that
we
changed
was
item
seven.
After
speaking
with
our
director
of
planning,
we've
we're
trying
to
be
in
tune
with
what
the
city
needs
and
being
having
been
to
some
of
the
most
recent
meetings,
the
state
of
the
city
address.
We
understand
that
there
is
a
need
of
residential
rentals,
especially
in
the
downtown
area,
especially
ones
that
maybe
can
bridge
the
gap.
K
I
know
that
there's
also
a
need
for
low
income,
but
we
want
ones
that
will
also
entice
more
tax
revenue
and
maybe
kind
of
a
middle
class
residential
rental.
So
originally
we
weren't
going
to
sell
the
property,
but
you
know
we,
my
wife
and
I,
live
on
Third
Street.
So
we
want
to
see
what's
right
for
downtown
and
Madison
Justice.
K
I
think,
if
that
fits
in
the
city's
master
plan,
better
I
think
we
can
definitely
be
on
board
with
that
number
eight
I
did
it
didn't
do
a
very
good
job
of
kind
of
cataloging.
The
scope
of
investment
we've
had
I've
didn't
include
all
the
final
touches
cabinets
interior
finishing,
but
if
you
go
to
the
next
page,
you
can
see
highlighted
at
the
bottom
we're
targeting
122
thousand
dollars
in
private
investment.
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K
So
those
you
know
we
are
at
greater
than
75
percent
of
the
private
investment
ratio
there
and,
of
course,
0.9
wasn't
really
changed
from
the
last
meeting,
but
this
structure
has
been
vacant
for
quite
some
time.
The
we've
gotten
from
both
accounts
from
the
just
bankruptcy
process,
as
well
as
oral
accounts
of
the
property
there.
K
So
yeah
I
guess
that's.
Those
are
the
changes
that
we
have.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Public,
Works
and
safety.
I
know
that
folks,
there
would
hopefully
be
just
as
excited
as
we
are.
We've
even
been
in
talk
with
Folks
at
okra,
Neil,
Elkins
and
others
who
you
know
if
talking
with
okra.
They
might
even
be
interested
in
partnering
with
us
if
we
can
get
Madison
on
board
the
project
as
well,
but
they're
wanting
some
backing
from
for
their
end
as
well.
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So
you
you've
covered
an
awful
lot
of
bases
here
and
I.
Think
taking
away
most
of
our
questions.
I
I
do
have
one
quick
question
for
you.
You
alluded
to
it,
but
just
to
make
sure
we
understand
what
you're
doing
you're
going
to
try
and
save
as
much
of
the
original
clabbered
siding
as
you
can.
Oh,
yes,
and
where
you
can't
save
it,
will
you
be
replacing
with
so.
K
We
have
a
COA
for
cement,
cementus,
Hardy
Board,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
techniques
that
local
historian,
Architects
Herschel
I,
can't
think
of
his
last
name.
But
Indiana
landmarks
has
a
a
list
of
approved
contractors
that
do
do
well,
and
they
were
saying
that
you
know
cement
to
sport
could
be
used
to
match
quite
nicely
if
using
the
reverse
side
were
less
texture
is
showing
and
there's
some
going
to
be
some
creative
ways
to
kind
of
tie
in
those
pieces,
because
we,
my
wife
and
I,
actually
struggle
on
that
one.
K
A
lot
you
can
tell
from
the
photo
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
transition,
however
I
think
most
of
that
can
be
saved
we've.
We
went
around
and
did
an
analysis
of
all
of
it,
so
we
would
like
to
save
it
all
and
see
if
we
can
get
with
some
historic
experts
on
how
we
can
tie
that
in
with
without
making
it
look
too
inappropriate,
because
it
does
have
high
visibility
on
Walnut.
Now
that
524
is
gone
so
I'm.
K
Leave
that
to
The
Experts
they
have
a
lot
of
good
ideas
that
we
bounced
around
and,
if
I'm
sure,
I
can
get
with
Brooke,
Peach
and
others
that
that
board
would
recommend.
We
work
with
with
the
city
to
kind
of
be
in
alignment
there,
but
that's
definitely
outside
of
my
expertise.
I'm
we're
on
the
investment
side
than
that
story,
but.
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They
were
just
butted
up
against
one
another
and
the
mortar
on
that
seam
is
completely
going
out
from
about
25
feet
up
down
to
the
down
to
the
base
basement
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
grout
that
a
mortar
that's
worked
out
and
on
the
on
that,
that's
that's!
On
the
east
side,
then,
on
the
Southeast
corner.
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It's
the
same
thing,
there's
a
seam
that
that
needs
to
be
repaired
and
a
door
was
closed
off
and
the
bricks
are
not
correct
and
and
going
to
replace
all
of
those
bricks
with
matching
bricks
and
mortar
to
to
match
the
original
House
and
we
got
two
quotes,
and
the
one
quote
was
about
75
percent
more
than
the
one
we
went
with,
and
we
looked
at
his.
We
looked
at
his
work
and
it's
it's
very
good
work
throughout.
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Apartments,
yes,
so
302
is,
of
course,
a
corner
building,
and
so
we
assume
we'll
have
an
apartment.
On
the
second
floor,
an
apartment
on
the
third
floor
and
then
first
floor,
maybe
a
business.
It
was
an
apartment
when
we
purchased
the
property
and
then
the
next,
the
building.
Next
to
it,
we
would
essentially
do
the
same
thing.
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It's
quite
a
project
we're
all
watching
these
huge
projects
around
town.
It
is
an
amazing
opportunity.
I
wish
I
had
a
better
memory,
because
somebody
told
me
that
they
proposed
there
and
they
wanted
off
that
building
ever
sold
if
they
could
buy
the
sign.
Well,
now,
I,
don't
remember
who
they
are
so
I.
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Our
current
plans
are
to
repair
and
replace
gutters
and
downspouts,
as
well
as
it
currently
has
all
aluminum
siding.
There
are
some
pieces
that
are
damaged
that
we
want
to
replace
just
back
to
aluminum
paint
after
that,
and
then
all
new
windows,
which
we
have
had
those
approved
with
the
COA
and
everything.
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O
I
meant
to
have
the
well
I
mean
you
all:
have
the
application,
so
I
guess
to
start
with
the
the
only
two
elements
that
are
we're
not
addressing
the
ACT
Pace
Grant
application.
First
of
all,
we're
also
intending
to
pursue
the
federal
investment
tax
credit
for
historic
Rehabilitation
on
this
project
and
I've,
not
I've,
just
in
and
significant
significance
of
that
is
I
would
hope
that
dhpa
I
mean
the
division
of
historic
preservation,
archeology
and
the
Park
Service
would
accept
this.
O
This
same
plans
that
you're,
looking
at
but
I
I
understand
from
various
other
people,
who've
been
doing
tax
credit
review
projects
that
they
don't
necessarily
always
agree.
So
the
point
is
that
if,
in
fact,
the
dhpa
or
the
Park
Service
require
modifications
to
this
plan
in
order
to
be
approved
for
the
tax
credits,
I
would
be.
You
know.
I
have
to
be
referring
those
issues
to
Nicole.
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O
O
So
they're
going
to
be
these
multiple
levels
of
you
know
compliance
involved
and
then
the
other
thing
oh
yeah,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
more
recently
this
will
come
up
in
the
in
the
course
of
the
scoring
criteria.
But
the
we
had.
We
were
awarded
a
an
unsafe,
structured
determination
by
the
building
inspector
and
I
have
that
here.
O
Yeah,
so
if,
if
you're
going
into
the
scoring
criteria
and
there's
no
quite
no
questions
about
the
specifics
of
the
application,
the
in
the
event
that
that
we
are
successful
with
the
tax
credit
certification
application,
the
plan
is,
it
would
be
income
producing
rental
property
and
so
that
that
would
be
the
question
and
I.
And
if
you
don't
mind
as
I
say,
I
thought
I
could
get
this
on
the
well.
Oh
here
yeah
points.
O
With
regard
to
the
other
scoring
criteria
and
I
realized
that
each
each
of
you
had
each
of
you
has
the
prerogative
to
determine
how
many
points
you
do
or
don't
assign,
but
based
on
based
on
my
past
experience
with
this
board.
I
would
hope
that
that
everybody
would
be
I
mean
all
of
you
would
be
inclined
to
assign
to
a
word.
The
maximum
number
of
points
regard
to
the
specific
questions
for.
Oh,
you
know
for
oh.
O
O
O
Does
the
applicant
provide
more
than
per
more
personal
investment
than
50
percent?
Now,
I
guess
I
guess,
based
on
the
preliminary
cost
estimates,
it
would
be
above
60
percent,
so
I,
don't
know
how,
whether
whether
you're
figuring
it
the
same
way
use
of
the
structure
anticipated
would
be
residential
resident,
rent
or
residential,
and
the
last
category
has
the
building
been
deemed
on.
O
O
O
O
A
O
Semantius
fiber
reinforced
cement
sizing
or
so-called
Hardy
Board,
or
the
lp
compound,
LP
or
other
composite
side.
They
all
have
their
disadvantages
and
also
wood
is
the
only
one
that
is
known
to
last
for
centuries.
But
once
again
the
problem
is,
is
where
you
get
it
here.
I
mean
we're
not
in
Minnesota
we're
not
in
Maine
's
going
to
be,
but
but
all
three
of
those
the
Historic
District
board
has
routinely
approved
over
and.
O
A
L
L
It
was
dated
to
us
in
January
of
2022.
and
so
far
we
have
about
36
000,
34,
6,
000
of
Our
Own
Private
funds.
Just
for
maintaining
architectural
structural
engineer,
maintenance,
Insurance
taxes,
all
of
those
things
to
just
maintain
the
property
to
get
to
the
point
of
what
needs
to
happen
to
this
building,
and
so
now,
then,
after
that
we
got
a
unsafe
letter.
L
The
mayor
started
the
blighted
properties
project.
We
had
already
started
the
research
and
investment
into
acquiring
this
property
under
a
not-for-profit,
so
the
goal
is
to
preserve
it,
as
is
not
to
change
its
structure,
structure
or
its
use.
It
was
used
as
a
rental
property
five
units
and
is
going
to
be
restored
as
rental
properties,
I'm
thinking
praying
as
I
go
about
multi-use
like.
Maybe
there
would
be
some
rentals.
Maybe
there
will
be
a
a
storefront
and
maybe
there
will
be
a
a.
What
do
you
call
it
like
a
Airbnb,
something?
L
A
B
A
L
All
of
that.
So
really,
though,
I
put
about
I,
don't
know
82
000
in
the
projected
of
what
I'd
like
to
see
done
by
the
end
of
this
summer,
that
is
the
roofing,
the
foundation,
the
fire
cleanup
and
possibly
the
masonry
work.
So
our
goal
is
to
do
the
outside
work
and
get
that
where
it's
prevented
prevention
of
any
further
decay
in
dilapidation,
yeah.
F
L
With
whatever
was
going
on
with
the
building,
though
you
know,
it
was
with
people
I
didn't
know,
but
I
I
wasn't
involved
on
on
any
level
about
how
it
was
maintained
when
it
was
rented
when
the
fire.
What
happened
is
just
we
decided
that
we
needed
to
take
these
properties
and
start
we
try
to
sell
it.
L
I
do
remember
that
years
ago
it
was
for
sale.
We
were
going
to
auction
it.
You
know
it's
like
just
wash
your
hands
of
it,
but
we
couldn't
do
anything
to
get
rid
of
it
until
lately,
everybody's
like
we
wanted,
we
want
it.
We
want
to
give
it
to
us,
give
it
to
us,
give
it
to
us.
But
it's
you
know
at
this
point
we
had
developed
a
not-for-profit
and
then
after
that,
I
have
to
say.
L
I
was
spiritually,
compelled
to
look
at
the
history,
because
I
had
no
idea
that
we
had
all
of
these
properties
and
I
didn't
know
about
Georgetown
or
the
black
community,
the
black
Heritage.
So
and
with
that
being
said,
there's
so
many
grants
and
so
many
funding
opportunities.
After
looking
at
the
history,
like
the
other
gentleman
at
5,
20
I
think
it
was
5
26
about
just
the
national,
the
state
and
even
here,
the
local
opportunities
to
help
with
this
project.
L
I
do
have
it's
not
something
I
feel
like
I'm
doing
personally,
I'm
kind
of
spearheading
it,
but
I'm
not
a
contractor.
I
have
acquired
a
Consulting
contractor
so
that
everything
is
done
appropriately
professionally.
There's
follow-through
with
how
it's
done,
and
it's
not
just
you
know,
thrown
up
any
kind
of
way.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
as
the
project
progresses,
that
it
is
well
done
and
it
will
be
well
maintained
and.
L
Award
and
so
to
get
that
done
and
to
get
it
cleaned
out
and
to
get
the
roofing
we
are
on
target.
I
did
talk
to
Mark,
hello,
I
forget
what
his
name.
We
talked
on
Friday
about
the
Cox
Grant,
so
right
now,
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
I'm
pretty
sure
we
have
three
grants
to
do
at
least
the
clean
out
the
foundation
and
the
roofing
and
the
building
is
clean.
We
have
already
cleaned
out
the
top
anything
loose
is
already
out
the
top
and
bottom
and
thankful
to
a
link.
L
They
happen
to
have
a
bin
out
there
that
they
were
going
to
use
for
their
property,
and
he
said
we
can
use
it
and
we
filled
it
up.
So
we
owe
you
so
we
did
take
our
personal
funds
and
had
everything
cleaned
out
that
was
movable,
there's
nothing
in
there.
We
just
have
to
get
the
fire
clean
out
from
the
That's
Falling
in,
and
the
roofing
and
I've
had
contractors
to
go
in
and
give
me
pretty
good
estimates.
L
So
I
can't
say
that
there's
one
decided
on
because
the
estimates
have
been
from
just
you
know:
one
double
the
other
one.
So
it's
really
having
me
Consulting
contractor,
look
at
them
and
see
what
is
it,
what
are
they
really
going
to
do
and
how
it's
really
going
to
be
performed
right
and
what
is
the
cost.
B
P
Yeah
he
said
that
he
had
talked
to
you
and
that
he
wasn't
going
to
be
able
to
make
it
that
you
had
the
application
and
the
pictures
and
everything
and
his
basement
it's
in
pretty
rough
shape.
It
needs
to
be
tuck
pointed
and
it
needs
a
polyester
fill
a
block
column
polisher
in
the
corner,
filled
with
rebar
and
fill
the
cells
with
the
concrete,
because
it's
actually
that
corner
of
the
building
is
sinking.
P
And
then
he
just
notified
me
on
the
phone
that
inside
of
the
home
on
the
second
floor,
the
plaster
is
starting
to
crack
from
the
sinkage
of
the
of
that
clip,
and
then
they
block
up
a
window,
do
all
their
tuck,
pointing
polyester
in
the
corner
and
then
a
block
of
cold
shoot
and
and
then
on
each
side
of
the
steps
where
the
brick
walls
are
all
the
mortar
is
just
deteriorating
out
of
there
and
that
have
no
bondage.
So
we're
going
to
point
all
of
that
and
then
under
the
stairs,
it's
just
like
dirt.
P
P
F
P
A
A
N
A
D
F
D
D
F
A
A
L
F
F
No
I
will
just
give
an
update
on
the
Paul
Brown
Pace
Grant
I'm,
actively
working
on
that
application
process
and
guidelines.
I've
submitted
two
rounds
of
reviews
to
National
Park
Service,
so
hopefully
we
can
get
that
up
and
running.
We
are
going
to
use
a
subcommittee
outside
of
pace
to
review
those
with
one
pace
representative
being
on
that
committee.
This
is
appointed
by
the
pace
committee,
so
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
four
of
you
but
I
believe
Jim
has
offered
to.