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Description
Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
A
Here
we
go
good
evening.
Everyone
welcome
to
the
minneapolis
city
planning
commission
meeting
of
march
24th
2014
joining
me
today
are
Commissioner
chron,
zur
and
bender,
and
lucky
Pierre
and
guess,
woman
and
horny.
My
name
is
Ted
Tucker
I
serve
as
president
of
the
Commission
at
this
time.
Please
be
sure
that
all
your
phones
and
electronic
devices
are
silenced.
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
to
approve
actions
from
the
meeting
of
March.
Third
2014
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
those
actions.
A
Second,
okay,
moved
in
second
at
any
discussion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
pposed.
Our
next
item
is
to
sort
out
our
agenda,
which
you
will
find
on
the
green
sheets
that
you
saw
outside
on
the
table,
we'll
go
through
them,
one
by
one
and
decide
which
will
be
continued,
which
will
be
discussed
which
will
go
on
the
consent
agenda
item
number
one
is
an
Ellie
vacation
at
300
second
street
south
and
331
first
street
south.
A
That
is
to
be
continued
to
the
meeting
of
May
nineteen
2014
item
number
two
Kraus
liquor
store
at
80
broadway
street
northeast
also
is
to
be
continued
to
the
meeting
of
april
23rd
2014.
So
we
will
not
discuss
that
tonight.
Item
number
three
assisted
living,
2200,
Park,
Avenue
and
2207
Oakland
Avenue.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
change
the
staff
recommendation
for?
Item
number
three?
If
not,
we
will
put
that
on
the
consent.
Agenda.
Item
number
four
is
larone
steel,
118,
60th,
Street
West.
A
Is
there
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
two
or
modify
okay?
We'll
put
that
on
the
discussion
agenda
item
number
five:
is
residential
building
at
2255
sharon
avenue
south?
Is
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
change
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
five.
Anyone
on
five,
if
not
we'll
put
that
on
the
consent
agenda,
so
we
will
have
items
for
discussion,
will
be
item
number
four
on
the
consent
agenda
number
three
and
five
and
to
be
continued
items
1
and
2.
A
A
A
A
A
B
Good
evening,
the
property
or
for
this
project
is
18
1,
1860
street
west
they're,
proposing
to
do
a
small
office
addition
approximately
2300
square
feet
area,
as
you
can
see
on
the
zoning
map.
Here,
it's
a
rather
large
site.
It
does
extend
out
to
nicollet,
but
most
of
its
furnishes
on
60th,
there's
residential
to
the
north
and
south
and
the
rest
is
industrial
around
it.
The
applications
that
are
being
requested
is
an
expansion
of
non-performing
use.
This
is
considered
a
medium
industrial
use
with
the
zoning
of
the
site
split
between
i1
and
i2.
B
This
is
any
non-conforming
use,
so
that's
necessary
to
allow
the
opposition.
The
next
application
that
they're
requesting
is
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
parking
requirement
from
86
faces
just
63
spaces
and
17
of
those
spaces
are
actually
grandfathered.
The
last
thing
that
they
need
is
a
site
plan
review.
B
The
further
extension
knuckle
for
my
use,
as
I
mentioned
it
does
have
the
split
zoning.
This
area
is
not
intended
to
remain
industrial
in
the
long
term,
so
rezoning
1p
inappropriate
the
the
addition
itself
isn't
expected
to
increase
noise
of
traffic.
Anything
like
that.
The
addition
itself
actually
increases
the
parking
requirement
by
one
space,
but
what
the
addition
and
the
part
total
parking
available
on
site
is
being
reduced
by
six,
so
that's
being
addressed
by
the
variance
and
and
then
any
other
site.
B
Improvements
are
actually
addressed
to
the
site
point
of
view,
but
those
are
the
main
things
address
to
that
for
the
non-conforming
use
application
for
the
variance,
as
I
mentioned.
The
actual
request
is
really
for
six
phases.
They
total
amount,
that's
being
removed
from
the
site.
They
have
an
average
of
105
employees
that
work
for
their
company
and
that's
what
between
two
shifts
and
so
for
the
average
traffic
demand
on
the
site
what's
being
provided.
B
B
Moving
on
to
the
site
plan,
there
were
a
number
of
requests
for
alternative
compliance
and
that
were
addressed,
starting
with
building
placement,
because
this
is
an
addition.
The
addition
isn't
built
right
up
to
the
street,
because
existing
building
isn't
up
to
the
street
and
they
also
received
or
requested
some
alternative
compliance
for
the
windows
you
can
see
in
the
elevations.
B
So
that
mainly
the
requests
for
all
tournament,
clients
had
to
do
with
the
landscaping
screening
improvements
around
the
parking
areas,
fronting
60th
and
just
the
overall
amount
of
landscaping
which
they're
deficient
on
with
this
size
of
site,
which
is
six
point,
eight
five
acres
and
most
of
that
being
occupied
by
the
building
outdoor
storage
and
the
parking
areas
there.
They
are
below
what
is
required
for
the
amount
of
landscaping.
B
And
those
are
alternatives.
Requested
are
recommended
for
the
general
landscaping,
as
well
as
the
parking
and
screening
requirements.
There's
one
other
area
along
the
east
side
of
the
parking
area
that
you
there's
a
place
of
assembly
to
the
east.
Here,
because
it's
residentially
zoned,
they
are
technically
required
to
have
a
seven
foot
wide
landscaped
yard.
There.
There's
I,
don't
believe.
B
I
have
a
picture
of
this,
but
there's
another
parking
lot
here,
and
there
is
a
fence
here
currently,
but
it's
by
moving
the
parking
over
the
end
up
of
limiting
parking
spaces
and
providing
a
screening
buffer
there
didn't
seem
to
have
any
benefit,
so
we
did
recommend
alternative
compliance
for
that
of
the
last
alternative.
Compliance
piece
was
the
distance
to
trees
from
each
parking
space,
because
we're
recommending
the
additional
trees
be
added
to
the
site
that
would
help
address
that
requirement,
but
still
not
all
spaces
would
be
within
50
feet
of
a
tree.
B
B
And
I'll
just
use
this
as
a
reference
along
the
north
lot
line
here
along
the
East
lat
lines
and
the
South
fault
line
adjacent
to
60th
street,
where
we
have
the
outdoor
storage
and
they
are
going
to
be
installing
a
six-foot-tall,
solid
wood
funds
to
address
that
currently
like
along
the
north
lot
line
adjacent
to
the
alley
and
the
residential
uses.
There's
a
chain-link
fence
there
with
slats
in
it,
so
they'll
be
putting
up
a
solid
fence.
There.
B
One
other
thing
was
that
there's
barbed
wire
and
some
of
that
existing
fencing,
since
that
is
a
prohibited
code
material.
We
are
recommending
that
that
be
removed
to
bring
that
into
compliance.
I.
Think
that
covers
the
main
points
and
oh
I
did
forget
one
thing:
sorry
I'm
going
back
to
the
site
plan
with
the
main
entrance
here:
there's
not
a
walkway
connecting
it
to
the
street,
so
that
was
one
additional
recommendation
other
than
that
I
can
take
questions.
C
A
D
Just
one
of
the
first
of
all
thank
everybody
for
your
consideration
of
the
project.
It's
something
that
we've
like
we'd
like
to
do
we
plan
to
do
too.
I
guess
enhance
our
image
to
our
customers.
We
want
to
retain
customer,
retain
our
employees
wouldn't
be
able
to
attract
employees
and
we've
got
multiple
vintages
in
the
existing
building
and
it
really
needs
a
facelift.
D
Lagoons
been
in
business
since
nineteen
forty
six.
We
have
a
very
good
reputation
in
the
market:
fabricated,
structural,
steel
for
commercial
and
industrial
and
for
bridge
working
and
as
janelle
mentioned,
we've
got
about
105
employees
in
our
on
118
West,
16,
60th
location.
We've
got
about
another
90
in
the
facility
in
Wisconsin,
so
we're
viable
company.
We
like
the
area
that
we're
in
and
so
I
just
appeal
for
your
approval.
Okay,.
A
E
My
name
is
Lauren
Orion
address
is
145
West,
59th
Street,
so
my
husband,
christian
and
I
live
at
145
and
the
lagoon
property
is
directly
to
the
south
of
ours.
So
we
are
along
their
north
side
of
the
property
and
we
were
pleased
to
hear
that
lagoon
was
choosing
to
invest
in
their
property.
Obviously
they're
doing
well
they're
successful,
as
all
of
you
know,
they
provide
steel
to
for
a
variety
of
purposes,
both
to
my
employer
target
as
well
as
walmart
they've
done.
E
Now
we
did
ask
about
the
north
side
of
the
property.
Obviously
we
have
a
vested
interest,
given
that's
the
border
that
we
abut
two
and
unfortunately
there.
There
wasn't
a
whole
lot
of
information
to
share
at
that
meeting.
So
some
of
the
stats
here
that
we
just
heard
our
new
to
me
as
well,
so
I
want
to
share
just
a
couple
of
photos
for
you,
because
I
don't
know
if
everyone
I
assume
you
haven't
all
walked
the
site,
but
this
is
a
photo
out,
my
back
kitchen
window
to
the
north
side
of
the
lagoon
property.
E
So
you
can
see
the
existing
chain-link
fence
there.
That
Janelle
had
mentioned
my
husband
standing.
There
is
a
scale
figure,
so
he's
about
5
feet,
9
inches
tall,
so
that
existing
fence
is
about
8
feet
and
because
our
property
sits
at
a
higher
elevation.
Obviously
we
have
a
pretty
good
sight
line
down
into
the
storage
area.
So
when
I
hear
that
the
new
fence
will
be
6
feet
tall,
that
is
disappointing
to
me
as
their
neighbor.
So
we
would
like
to
see
our
higher
fence
actually
than
what's
their
existing
to
block
that
sight
line.
E
Okay,
also
in
the
winter
that
alleyway
does
get
quite
tight,
given
that
the
snow
has
nowhere
to
go
so
in
terms
of
placement,
we
would
like
consideration
of
whether
or
not
that
fence
can
move
to
the
south.
A
bit
to
give
us
a
little
more
room
in
that
alleyway
for
cars
to
get
through
by
februari
the
majority
of
the
residents
back.
There
cannot
come
down
that
alley
and
we
end
up
part
street
parking.
E
Thats
no
just
gets
too
deep,
and
if
you
don't
drive
a
it's
all
a
car
you're
not
getting
through
and
a
couple
more
things.
I
know
they
mentioned
landscaping
as
well
around
the
perimeter,
and
we
would
like
to
see
improvement
of
landscaping.
Even
on
the
north
side.
I
know
it's
not
the
side
that
they
bring
their
clients
through.
E
E
E
The
the
other
piece
is
that,
if
this
is
to
be
a
wooden
fence,
I
would
have
some
concerns
about
maintenance.
This
is
chain-link
now
and
I
have
maintenance
concerns
I
once
you
get
to
a
solid
surface,
what
will
that
then?
Look
like
you
know?
If
it
gets
tagged,
are
they
going
to
come
out?
Are
they
going
to
they're
going
to
clean
that,
or
will
that
be
on
the
residents
to
look
at
and
then
the
other
piece
is
obviously
enforcement
going
forward?
E
Just
as
we
are
expected,
as
residents
and
landowners
to
take
care
of
our
property,
we
would
expect
them
to
be
good,
neighbors
and
good
stewards
as
well
and
take
care
of
theirs.
Okay,
so
you
know
we're
a
modest
neighborhood
in
Windham,
not
large
houses.
You
know
we're
post-war
era,
but
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
care
about
our
community
and
what
it
looks
like
a
I.
E
Think
it
really
depends
upon
the
placement
if
the
fencing
cannot
move
from
its
current
location.
Just
given
where
their
property
lines
are,
then
it
you
know,
the
only
option
is
to
have
it
on
the
June
side,
again,
probably
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
height.
So
if
six
feet
is
the
standard,
maybe
your
vegetation
gives
you
that
extra
six
feet,
or
so
to
block
that
sideline.
If
we
can
move
it
back,
I
know
that
we
have
have
considered
if
it's
three
feet.
E
A
F
C
B
C
C
A
C
G
D
D
You
know
we're
in
a
very
constricted
area
to
start
with
and
have
no
room
to
actually
to
expand
in
any
way
so
I'm,
I,
guess
reluctant
to
say
that
you
know
we're
willing
to
move
the
fence
in
closer
and
to
lose
more
square
footage
when
I
think
about
the
snow,
as
you
saw
in
the
north
side
of
the
fence,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
that
distance
between
the
alley
and
the
fence
is
I.
You
know,
I
just
don't
know
what
that
would
be,
but
do.
H
H
C
H
A
F
A
C
I'm
gonna
look
to
my
fellow
commissioners
here,
a
little
bit
on
this.
One
I
think
that
the
staff
recommendations
are
pretty
pretty
good.
The
question
I
do
have
is
in
regard
to
the
fence.
It
is
a
lot
of
fence,
but
it
has
to
be
replaced
anyway
with
the
wood.
The
question
is:
does
it
get
moved
back
or
not,
and
we
do
plantings
I
think
from
a
graffiti
standpoint,
having
some
sort
of
plantings
on
the
alley
side
might
be
nice,
because
it's
harder
to
spray
paint
green
living
things,
and
it
is
a
wooden
fence.
C
I
also
worry
about
some
removal,
just
infiltration
and
actually
probably
goes
through
a
chain-link
fence,
a
lot
easier
than
a
solid
wooden
fence.
So
I'm
wondering
how
we
balance
those
two
needs
in
terms
of
required
use
of
the
property
or
desired
use,
the
property
versus
safety
and
maintenance
of
the
fence
along
the
alley.
So
I'm
wondering
what
other
people's
thoughts
are
beasts
I.
You
know
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
move
it
back
just
a
little
bit
just
to
make
life
easier
for
everyone.
I
I
definitely
could
smart
a
much
taller,
not
much,
but
a
taller
fence,
28
feet
and
I'm
also
wondering
there's
utility
poles
in
that
alley.
Does
it
make
sense
to
have
the
face
of
that
fence,
be
just
on
the
south
side
of
those
utility
poles
I'm,
it's
probably
another
that
much,
but
it
might
give
a
nice
little
balance
and
let
that
work
a
little
better
for
them.
A
A
C
C
C
G
A
G
Curious
just
for
clarification,
so
does
this
mean
that
the
polls
would
be
on
the
inside
of
the
fence,
not
in
the
alley
or
on
the
alley
side
of
the
fence,
maybe
in
the
alley
side
and
I
guess.
The
reason
I
ask
is
because
if
the
concern
was
about
about
snow
removal
and
where
snow
goes,
is
that
impact
snow
removal?
If
the
polls
are
out
in
the
alley
side
of
the
fence.
F
Comment
if
I
one
thing
it
looks
like
the
alley.
Width
is
platted
at
14
feet,
however,
often
times
the
paved
with
of
the
actual
Ali.
It
doesn't
cover
that
whole
width.
It
can
be
sometimes
a
foot
or
more
of
unpaved
right
away
on
each
side
of
the
paved
alley.
So
it's
it's
not
out
of
the
question
that
the
pole
is
on
the
property
line.
For
example,
according
to
the
survey
it
did,
look
like
the
fence
is
approximately
right
on
the
property
line.