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Description
Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
A
Public,
were
we
really
a
little
more
so
than
good
afternoon?
Everyone
welcome
to
the
minneapolis
city
planning
commission
meeting
of
june
9
2014..
My
name
is
ted
tucker.
I'm
president
of
the
planning
commission
joining
me
today
are
commissioners.
B
A
Slack
gesselmann
lucky
peer
and
brown,
and
I
think
a
few
others
will
be
showing
up
soon.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
approve
the
actions
from
the
meeting
of
may
19.
2014
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
those
actions.
A
C
A
Agenda
for
today
we
will
go
through
the
agenda
that
you
see
on
these
blue
sheets
out
on
the
table
outside
and
decide
which
items
will
be
put
on
the
consent
agenda
that
is
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff,
with
any
conditions
without
further
discussion
or
if
they
would
be
continued
to
a
future
meeting
or
put
on
the
discussion
agenda.
A
A
Item
number
two
is
webster
elementary
conversion
to
a
k5
through
3k
prototype
at
425
fifth
street
northeast.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on.
Item
number
two:
if
not,
that
goes
on
consent
as
well.
Item
number
three
is
elmwood
properties,
837
15th
avenue
southeast.
Is
there
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on?
Item
number
three:
if
not
that's
on
consent
as
well.
A
Let's
see
item
number
four
severson,
porch
expansion,
3900
fourth
avenue
south
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
for.
Item
number
four,
if
not
also
placed
on
consent,
item
number
five
kernel,
west
312
lake
street
west
will
be
continued
to
the
meeting
of
june
23.
2014
item
number
six
blaisdell
apartments,
2118
blaisdell
avenue,
will
also
be
continued
to
the
meeting
of
the
23rd
june.
23Rd.
A
2014
item
number:
seven:
mount
olive
at
lutheran
church,
50,
25,
knox
avenue
south
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
for.
Item
number
seven.
If
not,
we
will
put
that
on
consent
as
well
and
item
number.
Eight
is
friendship,
store,
317,
38th
street
east
3800
clinton,
avenue
south
from
3805
third
avenue
south.
We
will
be
discussing
that
so
the
agenda
is
items
for
the
consent
agenda
to
be
adopted,
as
recommended
by
staff
without
further
discussion
items.
A
One
two:
three
four
and
seven
items:
number
five
and
six
to
be
continued
to
the
meeting
of
june
23rd
and
item
number
eight
to
be
discussed.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
A
D
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
president.
At
the
may
22nd
committee
of
the
hall
meeting
we
considered
land
sales
at
5227,
gerard
avenue,
north
1977,
west
river,
road
and
downtown
east
block
one,
and
at
that
meeting
we
voted
to
voted
that
all
of
those
land
sales
were
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
Any
discussion
all
in
favor
say
aye
opposed.
Okay,
we
find
those
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan.
We
move
now
to
the
public
hearings.
First
item
may
have
a
motion
to
continue
to
the
meeting
of
june
twenty
third
items.
Five
and
six
any
discussion
on
favor
say:
aye.
A
Okay,
those
items
will
be
continued
I'll
now
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda
items
one
two,
three,
four
and
seven.
Let
me
ask
again:
if
there's
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
for
those
five
items,
if
not,
I
will
close.
The
public
hearing
may
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendations.
A
Any
discussion,
if
not
all
in
favor,
say
aye:
okay,
those
are
adopted.
So
if
those
were
your
items,
please
talk
to
the
staff
to
find
out
about
further
actions
there.
So
we
move
to
our
one
item
for
discussion.
Item
eight,
the
friendship
store
and
we
have
a
staff
report
from
becca
ferrar.
Please
remembering
that
we've
seen
this
twice
in
cow,
so
we're
quite
familiar.
E
Good
afternoon
I
shall
do
my
best.
The
applications
that
are
before
you,
of
course,
are
the
property
first
located
at
317.
E
All
right
so
again
the
properties
that
we're
looking
at
that
are
before
you
include
317
38th,
street
east
3800
and
3808
clinton,
avenue
south
and
3805
38,
15
38,
17,
38,
21
and
38
25
3rd
avenue
south.
So
there
are
eight
parcels
in
total
that
comprise
a
development
site.
E
So
the
subject
parcels
are
obviously
those
that
are
highlighted
up
on
your
screen.
I'm
going
to
show
you
in
just
a
minute
a
site
plan
I've,
hopefully
I've
sort
of
simplified
all
the
applications
and
I'll
run
through
those
in
just
a
second.
But
of
course
this
is
the
context
it's
located
across
from
sabathany
community
center
across
third
avenue,
there's
some
new
town
homes
that
are
constructed
here,
there's
sort
of
a
small
commercial
building.
That's
owned,
c1
in
this
location,
single-family
home
kitty
corner
across
the
intersection
across
38th
on
the
subject:
development
parcel.
E
Of
course
there
is
the
building
that
was
formerly
occupied
by
the
church.
There
are
some
vacant
parcels
that
front
along
38th
street.
There's
also
a
single
family
home,
that's
located
along
clinton
that
would
be
demolished
as
part
of
this
application
and
then,
as
you
go
down,
the
block
3815
is
currently
vacant,
which
is
part
of
the
larger
church.
Parcel
3817
is
a
single
family.
Home
3821
is
an
existing
duplex
and
then
the
last
parcel
is
a
single-family
home.
So
all
of
these
structures
would
be
demolished
for
this
proposed
development.
E
E
They
have
made
some
modifications
which
I'll
go
through
a
little
bit
later,
but
first,
let's
just
talk
about
the
applications
as
they
were
when
they
came
into
the
city.
First,
of
course,
is
the
rezoning
application
all
of
the
parcels
that
compose
the
development
site
or
all
zoned
r1a
at
this
point
in
time,
38th
street
east,
as
I
mentioned,
the
background
of
the
staff
report
is
a
designated
community
corridor
in
this
location,
and
this
site
is
approximately
about
a
block
from
the
neighborhood
commercial
node,
that's
located
at
38th
and
4th.
E
So
again,
all
these
parcels
are
zoned
r1a
they're,
currently
proposing
to
rezone
five
of
those
parcels
from
r1a
to
c1
to
accommodate,
basically
that
front
portion
of
the
block
that
would
be
located
adjacent
to
38th
street
east.
So
in
the
small
area
plan
for
this
area.
All
of
these
parcels
are
designated
for
mixed-use
development.
E
The
parcels
that
are
located
basically
below
this
line
would
maintain
the
r1a
zoning.
That's
three
standard
residential
lots
and
they're
proposing
to
resonate
to
add
that
transitional
parking
overlay
district,
so
the
parking
can
be
associated
with
a
larger
c1
zone,
parcel
so
again,
r1a
to
c1,
adding
the
transitional
parcel
or
transitional
parking
overlay
district
to
these
three
r1a
zone
parcels.
Of
course,
anytime.
E
You
do
a
parking
lot
in
the
transitional
parking
overlay,
district,
you're
required
to
do
a
cup
and
then,
as
I've
highlighted
here,
they're
requesting
a
variance
along
third
from
20
feet
to
7
feet
for
this
parking
lot
they
are
requesting
on
the
other
side
of
the
site
along
clinton.
This
is
also
a
front
yard
for
the
first
25
feet,
they're
required
to
have
a
setback
of
17
feet,
they're,
proposing
to
go
to
zero
feet.
It's
important
to
note
that
they
are
meeting
their
interior
side
yard
requirement
in
that
location
of
seven
feet.
E
There
is
a
rear
yard
setback
that
applies
here
just
about
in
the
parking
lot.
They
are
proposing
to
vary
that
requirement
from
five
feet
to
two
feet:
three
inches:
this
is
the
only
application
that
we
are
proposing
be
denied
this
evening.
Is
this
application
here
adjacent
to
that
rear
yard?
In
addition,
they
need
variances
of
the
transitional
parking
overlay
district
standards
for
this
specific
site.
E
As
you
know,
parking
lots
are
limited
to
a
width
of
75
feet
in
this
specific
circumstance:
they're
approximately
136
feet
and
they're,
also
proposing
to
vary
that
gait
requirement
that
we
have
for
the
transitional
parking
overlay
district
basically
says
between
the
hour
after
hours
of
10
and
6
that
the
parking
lot
be
gated
off
and
so
they're
varying
that
standard
they're,
also
varying
the
standard.
That's
allowed
for
a
commercial
size
in
the
c1
district
from
4
000
square
feet
to
21
295
square
feet,
there's
an
impervious
surface,
variance
request
on
this
south
parking
lot.
E
What
is
allowed
is
65
percent
in
the
r1a
district
they're
proposing
to
go
to
79.3,
they're
varying
roof
sign
standards
regarding
height
location
and
type,
there's
also
site
plan
review.
Of
course,
a
preliminary
and
final
plat,
of
course,
there's
many
underlying
platted
lots
and
they're,
proposing
to
basically
go
to
two
lots
and
a
small
outlet,
as
well
as
dedicating
a
new
alley
that
extends
out
to
third
and
then.
Lastly,
the
current
configuration
of
the
alley
on
this
specific
site
is
that
it
terminates
to
38th
street.
It's
a
straight
alley
through
the
block.
E
E
I
do
talk
about
the
reason
why
we
are
recommending
denial
on
that
yard,
and
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
fact
that,
of
course,
there's
the
impervious
surface
requirement.
The
fact
that
there's
a
seven
foot
landscape
yard
requirement
in
the
chapter
530
standards
and
the
fact
that
much
of
the
parking
lot
doesn't
meet
the
interior
landscaping
standards
because
the
islands
are
not
landscaped.
E
One
thing
that
should
be
noted,
however,
is
that
the
the
reason
that
the
the
landscape
islands
are
not
landscaped
within
the
parking
lot
is
that
the
maneuvering
that
they
propose
to
do
on
site
is
going
to
be
rolling
over
those
areas
so
when
they
do
have
large
trucks
that
come
into
the
site,
they'll
be
utilizing
a
lot
of
the
parking
lot
for
their
maneuvering,
so
they're
not
doing
it
on
the
public
street
so
based
on
the
all
of
the
different
findings
in
the
staff
report.
E
This
is
basically
with
the
conditions
of
approval
that
staff
put
on
the
project.
This
is
in
essence.
What
we
were
recommending
should
be
the
outcome,
so
in
addition
to
denying
that
rear
yard
variance,
you'll
notice,
in
the
background
of
the
staff
report,
that
we
attach
several
conditions
of
approval
to
this
project,
there
are
several
that
are
standard,
but
in
total
there
are
15
conditions
of
approval,
and
some
of
those
would
have
basically
resulted
in
the
configuration
of
the
parking
lot.
Looking
like
this,
so
I.
B
E
Ideally,
38th
street
east
would
not
have
that
curb
cut
in
that
location,
but
it's
necessary
for
their
truck
loading,
be
obviously
a
safer
condition
for
pedestrians.
So
this
was
our
solution
to
include
a
walkway
put
in
four
parallel
spots
and
then
to
stripe
it
out
so
that
there
was
a
walkway
from
the
south
end
of
the
parking
lot
across
the
drive
aisles
in
the
driveways.
E
E
So
before
I
go
into
how
they
have
responded
to
the
comments
I
do
want
to
just-
and
I
think
this
is
probably
for
the
purposes
of
time
and
also
to
allow
other
testimony-
I
want
to
just
run
through
the
site
plan
review
conditions
of
approval
just
so
that
is
something
that
you're
thinking
about
as
I
go
through
the
revised
proposal,
but
some
of
the
different
things
that
are
not
standard
that,
typically,
you
see
on
a
site
plan
review,
we'll
start
with
condition.
E
Number
five,
and
basically
this
is
something
that
we've
required
on
buildings,
where
we
have
larger
tenant
spaces
and
allowed,
whether
it's
in
the
c3a
district,
or
that
we
have
larger
commercial
buildings
such
as
this
again,
this
building
that's
proposed
is
five
times
larger
than
would
be
than
what
would
typically
be
allowed
in
the
c1
district
under
these
standards,
and
so
the
recommendation
was,
the
building
should
have
a
minimum
of
50
percent,
transparent
windows,
given
the
size
of
the
commercial
space
on
the
north
elevation
of
the
building
facing
38
street
east
and
that
in
the
building
elevation,
currently
as
it
sits
as
it's
proposed,
does
meet
that
requirement.
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
moving
on
to
condition
six,
I
talk
about
it
being
a
requirement
to
have
forty
percent
transparent
windows
on
the
west
elevation
of
the
building.
Of
course,
this
is
facing
the
large
surface
parking
lot.
There's
a
bus
bus
stop
across
the
street
at
sabathany
and
there's
also
one
across
third
avenue.
So
we
felt
that
it
was
important
to
have
a
lot
of
glass
and
fenestration
facing
that
elevation.
E
So,
as
you
know,
and
as
it
was
proposed
at
the
committee
of
the
hole
and
again
I'm
taking
this
project
over
from
kimberly
hollen,
who
did
all
of
the
initial
legwork
on
this,
I
meant
to
give
her
credit
in
the
beginning,
but
on
the
parking
lot
side
that
they
obviously
have
an
entrance
in
and
out
and
that's
how
it
was
shown
at
committee
of
the
hole.
E
E
What's
shown
in
this
area,
is
an
elevator
storage
room?
The
last
time
that
you
had
seen
it?
It
was
an
entrance
to
the
building.
So
there
had
been
some
adjustments
here
since
the
last
company
the
whole
meeting.
In
addition,
at
that
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
you
had
talked
about
them
incorporating
an
entrance
off
of
38th
street
that
was
more
mid-building
and
not
so
close
to
the
surface
parking
lot
into
that
common
vest
fuel
that
I
was
just
talking
about.
E
The
applicant
has
basically
said
that
the
reason
the
door
has
been
positioned
in
that
way
or
in
that
manner
is
because
of
energy
efficiency
and
trying
to
gain
some
some
credits
that
way.
So,
in
essence,
what
that
did
was
that
changed
the
elevations
from
the
ones
that
you
saw
elastic
near
the
hole,
so
these
are
the
ones
that
are
again
in
your
packet.
It
put
basically
an
inactive
corner
on
the
building,
with
a
fiber
cement
board
panel
in
this
location.
E
E
While
there
is
a
canopy
that
highlights
the
entrance-
and
I
think
that's
important-
it's
not
as
though
there's
nothing
there
to
delineate
that
there's
a
principal
entrance
again.
There
are
no
doors
that
actually
face
the
street,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
part
out
for
you,
so
that
leads
to
condition
number
nine.
Where
we
talk
about
the
principal
entrance
on
the
north,
elevation
of
the
building
facing
38
shall
be
reoriented,
so
the
doors
face
the
street
number
10
again.
E
E
We
did
further
encourage
them
to
consider
incorporating
a
secondary
entrance
into
a
common
vestibule
off
of
38th
in
order
to
activate
that
corner
of
the
building,
no
concerns
regarding
the
blank
wall
provision,
but
moving
on
to
12..
This
is
the
stipulation
that
I
just
talked
about
in
that
southern
parking.
Lot
of
including
a
well-lit
four
foot
wide
walkway
bisecting
the
center
and
center
island.
E
So
in
response
to
this
to
these
conditions
of
approval
and
again
it
was
because
of
the
12
items.
They
were
asking
alternative
compliance
for
and
the
7
variances,
ultimately
what
they
have
come
back
with,
and
they
may
want
to
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
they
have
tried
to
strike
a
bit
of
a
compromise
with
us
without
having
to
lose
parking.
E
They
said
that
the
70
spaces
that
are
provided
are
critical,
and
so
they
basically
work
to
try
and
figure
out
a
way
to
maintain
the
parking
spaces
that
they
have
originally
proposed
in
terms
of
a
numerical
amount.
So
when
you
look
at
this
basically,
what
they're
proposing
in
that
south
into
the
parking
lot
is
that
it
would
comply
with
a
5
foot
yard
and
it
would
require-
and
it
would
also
comply
with
the
seven
foot,
landscaping
and
screening
requirement
along
that
yard.
So
this
is
a
completely
new
addition.
E
E
In
terms
of
the
other
components
they
have.
This
is
basically
the
corner
of
the
building,
so
this
is
38th
and
this
is
facing
out
toward
the
parking
lot
and
where
the
elevator
control
room
took
up
a
very
large
component
of
this
corner
of
the
building,
and
now
it
takes
up
about
seven
feet
by
five
feet.
So
there's
35
square
feet
here
that
are
blocked
out
at
the
corner.
They
would
be
proposing
to
put
a
new
window
in
this
location,
so
it
is
an
improvement,
I
think,
from
a
staff
perspective.
E
The
only
thing
that
is
a
consideration
is
you
know
what
would
be
here.
You
know
how,
even
though
there
is
glass
is
it
actually
active.
You
know
with
how
that
space
interfaces
with
the
outside
as
you
flip.
E
E
So
all
in
all,
if
you
follow
that
very
lengthy
description,
the
only
applications,
the
only
conditions
of
approval
that
are
being
contested
by
the
applicant
at
this
point,
would
be
9,
10
and
12..
Again,
they
don't
want
to
flip
the
doors
to
face
the
street
on
38th.
So
that's
number:
nine
10
they're
not
looking
to
fully
relocate
that
elevator
storage
room.
E
Instead,
it
would
be
smaller
and
they're
not
proposing
to
put
a
secondary
entrance
off
of
38th
is
further
recommended
by
staff
and
then
lastly
12
they're
not
proposing
at
all
to
put
the
walkway
in
and
they
would
not
need
to
realign
the
parking
to
the
parallel
spaces
in
that
location,
as
I
had
previously
shown
you
so
that
is
it
information.
I
can
answer
other
questions
about
the
development,
but
again
other
than
that
rear
yard
variants
in
the
south
parking
lot.
We're
recommending
approval
on
all
applications,
and
I
will
close
there
for
questions.
A
Okay,
let's
see
if
the
questions
of
staff
at
this
point,
I
don't
see
anything.
I
guess
we
understand
it
perfectly.
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
to
kimberly
for
for
the
ground
work
on
all
this.
B
A
Slots
and
I'm
sure
the
applicant
can
will
have
other
diagrams
that
show
their
proposed
resolution
of
these
issues.
Okay,
so
with
no
questions
of
staff,
we
will
move
to
the
public
hearing.
Let
me
just
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
commissioner
bender,
so
first
in
the
public
hearing.
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
applicant
and
obviously
we've
chatted
with
you
a
couple
of
times
and
be
very
interested
in
your
concerns
about
the
conditions.
G
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
great,
I'm
shawn
doyle,
I'm,
the
general
manager
of
the
seward
co-op
bruce
cornwall
is
here
with
us,
as
well
as
some
other
members
of
our
team
lydia
mike
and
eric.
First
of
all,
thanks
becca
for
all
the
work
that
stat
you
and
other
staff
members
have
done
to
work
through
this
project.
It's
a
very
complicated
project,
as
you
are
probably
observing.
G
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
and
appreciate
elizabeth
glidden,
our
council,
member
from
ward
9
and
her
staff
for
support
in
other
areas
around
the
community
engagement
process
that
we've
had,
and
finally
thank
you,
commissioners
for
meeting
with
us
multiple
times
to
try
to
get
this
project
to
a
place
where
it's
a
solid
proposal.
So
I
want
to
acknowledge-
and
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
the
results
are
a
very
good
proposal
as
the
general
manager
of
stewart
co-op.
G
I'm
very
excited
to
be
standing
here
before
you
with
this
proposal
to
have
a
grocery
store
built
at
38th
and
broad
38th
street
in
bryant
neighborhood.
As
you
can
gather
from
the
staff
report,
there
is
significant
support
in
the
community
for
this
project
as
well
as
some
detractors.
G
H
President
tucker
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
bruce
cornwall,
as
sean
said
with
lhb
architects.
Becca
did
a
great
job
of
going
through
that
very
quickly
and
succinctly.
I
would
just
like
to
kind
of
elaborate
just
a
little
bit
short
on
those
three
items:
first,
with
number:
nine,
which
is
the
the
principal
elevation
along
38th
and
the
suggestion
to
reorient
the
entrance
as
we
go
through
design,
and
you
folks
see
this
all
the
time
as
we
try
to
work
within
the
programmatic
requirements.
H
Our
north-south
dimension
from
the
south
part
of
the
building
to
the
38th
street
is
extremely
tight
for
getting
a
grocery
store
to
work.
So
when
we
were
suggested
by
the
committee
on
the
whole
to
actually
move
an
entrance
to
38th
at
first,
we
said
how
can
we
do
that?
Then
we
figured
out
a
way
to
do
it,
but
it
required
us
to
actually
have
the
vestibule
oriented
the
way
you
see
it
on
the
submittal
to
actually
have
it
vertical.
H
So
we
thought
we
were
doing
a
great
job
here
of
animating
the
facade
at
the.
I
think
I
think
the
indent
the
cutout
would
be
actually
quite
prominent
and
I
think
it'll
read
quite
strongly
as
as
an
entrance
as
you
walk
along
the
street.
So
I
don't
think
there'll
be
any
real
confusion
with
that.
A
Okay,
before
we
go
on
commissioner
lipke
here
you
had
a
question
on
the
entrance.
I
H
Okay,
so
the
this
we
weren't
required
to
actually
submit
the
layout
of
the
store,
so
we
didn't
add
so
basically
I'll
draw
on
this.
This
is
where
the
checkout
is
and,
as
you
enter
here,
you're
greeted
essentially
by
an
information
and
then
a
kind
of
a
quite
standard
way
of
shopping.
B
H
H
We
also
wanted
to
make
sure
when
we
saw
some
when
someone
came
in
that
door,
we
would
see
them
just
from
a
standard
security
standpoint,
and
that
would
also
provide
a
nice
area
for
the
seating
which,
of
course,
is
on
the
street
and,
of
course,
the
classroom
which
is
on
the
street
and
we
think
the
actual
cash
register
in
that
activity.
I
think,
is
on
the
street
and
very
interesting
to
see.
H
H
So
then,
on
number
10,
which
we
can
keep
that
drawing
up
as
well
the
elevator
storage
room.
Basically,
it's
the
controls
room
and
we've
reduced
it
to
the
corner.
If
you
look
at
the
elevation,
we
have
a
rhythm,
it's
in
your
packet,
the
rhythm
of
the
piers
and
the
glass,
so
it's
a
very
natural
place
to
tuck
a
solid
portion
of
the
building,
because
we
have
a
very
traditional,
I
think,
kind
of
commercial
retail.
Look
of
that.
H
So
I
don't
think
we're
we
couldn't
really
open
that
up
to
glass
and
keep
that
nice
rhythm,
going,
which
again,
is
a
very
typical
commercial
pattern,
the
adding
an
entrance.
There
is
another
challenge,
primarily
because
again
I'll
start
with
programmatically,
grocery
stores
would
love
to
have
only
one
entrance
actually
in
terms
of
how
they
control.
H
So
the
two
is
already
kind
of
a
stretch
in
terms
of
making
the
store,
work,
commercially
and
programmatically
and
urbanistically
the
the
other
thing
there
is
that
corner
and
again
this
was
suggested
originally
when
we
were
at
the
committee
of
the
whole.
H
H
H
You
see
how
oriented,
so
it's
always
the
same
like
that.
This
view
now,
as
you
come
in
you'll,
actually
have
a
very
nice.
I
actually.
I
think
this
is
really
a
good
improvement.
You'll
have
a
great
view
into
the
store,
and
this
remember-
or
maybe
you
don't
remember,
but
part
of
our
responsibility
is
we're
trying
to
use
different
areas
to
tie
in
the
history
of
the
sabathini
center
and
that
old
church.
That
was
there
as
opposed
to
the
the
structure
itself,
doesn't
have
any
real
value,
but
the
social
history
does.
So.
H
So
I
think
with
that
and
the
aspect
of
that
type
of
of
movement.
We
believe
that
this
is
where
the
atm
is
going.
We
do
think
there'll
be
people
there.
I
do
think
you'll
see
into
the
store,
you'll
see
lights
and
you
will
see
activity
and,
of
course,
you
will
see
the
movement
of
the
stair
up
and
down,
which
I
think
is
neat
not
unlike.
We've
has
happened
at
whole
foods
downtown
and
in
lund's
downtown.
They
both
have
stairs
when
they're
exposed
as
part
of
the
facades.
H
H
Can
you
see
this
now,
so
this
is
as
the
as
we
put
in
the
application?
It's
a
little
distorted,
and
so
you
know
becca
and
staff
pointed
out
some
the
shortcoming,
particularly
along
this.
So
we
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
or
they
suggested.
H
H
We
have
a
minimum
required
of
31,
I
think
a
maximum
of
86
and
we're
proposing
70.
and
those
of
you
who
have
worked
in
grocery
stores.
We
would
love
to
have
a
10
to
1
ratio,
we'd
like
to
have
100
or
something
to
actually
make
the
typical
ratio.
So
we
don't
feel
that
we're
pushing
any
limits
and
we,
of
course,
aren't
achieving
our
maximum
site.
So
we
are
trying
to
maximize
the
number
of
parking
spaces
we
can,
including
in
our
community
meetings.
H
We
also
have
a
bit
of
a
problem
with
the
one
way
and
people
having
to
go
past
and
then
back
in
so
as
people
are
following
each
other
around
there's,
always
that
potential
of
people
having
to
back
up
and,
just
frankly,
the
quality
of
parallel
parkers
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
how
much
of
this
is
blocked
or
not
and
remember.
We
can't
curb
this
because
of
the
truck
movement
makes
it
kind
of
problematic
to
make
this
like
a
raised
pedestrian
area.
H
So
we
believe
that
this
actually
won't
be
very
efficient,
actually
cause
some
significant
and
potential
backups.
So
we've
proposed
and
becca
showed
this-
that
this
is
a
hard
line
where
we
actually
get
this
down.
So
we
don't
require
that
variance
along
that
side.
We
cover
all
of
our
other
requirements.
We
still
keep
the
one
way.
H
We
still
keep
our
70
parking
spaces
and
we
just
make
some
minor
adjustments
to
the
width
of
the
drive
aisle
all
still
within
zoning
and
code
requirements,
and
we
think
it's
a
real
good
compromise,
meaning
we
kind
of
eliminate
the
issues
of
being
too
close
to
our
neighbors,
but
we
still
are
able
to
keep
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
we
need.
So
I
think
that
generally
covers
the
major
points
of
of
discussion,
and
I
certainly
will
answer
more
questions.
K
Thank
you,
president
tucker,
so
at
the
curb
cut
off
at
38th,
yes,
have
you
in
your
design,
thinking
considered
what
happens
at
kowalski's
in
uptown
on
hennepin,
where
you
turn
off
a
henna
pin
and
you're
forced
immediately
to
turn
right,
basically
into
a
one-way
loop
through
the
entire
parking
lot,
because
I
believe
part
of
staff's
concern
is
the
pedestrian
vehicle
conflicts
going
to
the
front
door.
So
if
I'm
a
car
coming
in
off
a
38th,
I
then
have
to
go
west
and
then
circle
the
parking
lot
as
you've
kind
of
identified.
It.
J
K
H
You
know,
I
don't
know
lydia's
or
landscape
architect
may
have
some
who
actually
would
develop
the
planning
more
in
in
detail.
I
can
answer
questions,
maybe
along
those
lines
a
little
bit
better
than
I
can
great
thought
has
been
taken
into
how
this
circulates,
but
maybe
you
want
to
elaborate.
L
L
We
it'd
be
hard
to
make
it
one
way
when
somebody
enters
here,
because
the
trucks
actually
as
they
come
out
have
to
swing
around
over
this
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
consideration
there.
But
we've
actually
widened
this
drive
aisle
right
here
quite
a
bit
and
we
think
that
most
customers,
after
their
first
visit,
will
likely
come
to
this
entrance
it'll,
be
they
find,
I
think,
much
easier
to
get
in
and
out.
So
this
will
become
a
secondary
entrance
to
this
parking
lot.
K
It's
a
one-way
thing
and
everyone
has
to
go
one
way
so,
but
what
it
does,
though
it
takes
people
coming
off
of
three
away
from
driving
right
from
the
front
door.
That's
that's
my
thought
process
there.
So
second
question:
is
there
our
traffic
still
at
38th
and
third?
I
Actually,
I
haven't
since
you're
up
there,
so
my
question
was
with
the
new
proposal
in
that
adjacent
to
the
alley.
It's
my
recollection
that
the
alley
is
lower
than
the
lot
right.
How
many
feet
lower
in
elevation
is
that.
L
So
it
varies
from
about
four
feet.
At
this
end,
I
think,
to
five
or
six
feet
down
here:
okay
and.
L
Absolutely
we'll
have
an
ornamental
metal
fence
at
the
top
it'll
be
a
residential
looking,
but
heavy
duty
retaining
wall,
and
then,
with
our
new
landscape
space,
we
would
anticipate
doing
some
nice,
shrubbery
and
other
things
to
mask
the
parking
lot
a
bit
more
and
have
some
plants
that
might
actually
come
down
over
the
top
of
that
wall
and
soften
it.
Further.
Okay,.
I
Yeah,
my
my
question
was
about
the
landscaping.
Actually,
because
I
don't
you
know
it
was
only
a
stephen
plan
in
front
of
us,
but
I
just
was
kind
of
concerned
about
headlights
and
screening
that
way
the
neighbors
who
whose
backyards
are
along
there,
aren't
constantly
seeing
headlights
every
time
they
want
us
in
their
backyard
and
enjoy
a
nice
evening.
I
L
I
would
anticipate
a
spacing
of
three
to
four
feet
on
center
for
those
shrubs,
and
so
we're
talking
about
about
30
or
so
is
what
I'm
guessing
sewer
does
a
tremendous
job
of
landscaping,
their
existing
site
and
they
anticipate
using
a
similar
level
of
finish
at
their
new
site.
So
I
would
anticipate
it
being
quite
nice.
Thank
you.
M
H
H
M
So
and
go
then
going
back
to
another
part
of
the
conversation
where
there
we
had
asked
for
previously
an
entrance
closer
to
the
corner
of
the
building.
Essentially
the
corner
of
the
parking
lot
and
38th.
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
that
elevator
to
move
to
the
southern
portion
of
the
building.
H
The
in
terms
of
how
the
store
is
laid
out
and
how
people
come
to
the
store
and
might
be
going
upstairs.
We
need
that
to
be
again
in
front
of
the
cash
registers.
H
So
when
someone
comes
in
and,
for
example,
has
a
business
meeting,
we
need
them
to
kind
of
just
kind
of
check
in
with
the
desk
and
then
go
straight
up.
And,
of
course,
some
people
need
to
have
the
use
the
elevator
so
to
push
it
to
the
south
part
of
the
store
in
early
ideas.
We
were
looking
at
that.
It
never
really
worked
very
well
in
terms
of
again
this
kind
of
almost
prescriptive
layout,
of
how
stores
work
and
how
people
move
through
a
store
about
when
you
get
produce.
H
When
you
don't
and
then
being
able
to
do
that
in
the
in
the
in
in
front
of
the
cash
registers
we
looked
at
the
cash
registers,
oriented
kind
of
north
south
instead
of
east
west,
we'll
say,
and
that
just
didn't
work
very
well,
so
we're
we're,
as
you
can
see,
because
we
have
a
loading
dock
down
in
that
corner.
That's
needed
because
we
had
to
have
all
of
our
maneuvering
done
on
on
the
on
the
site.
H
A
Okay
at
this
point,
I
will
continue
with
the
public
hearing.
Please
when
you
come
up,
say
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
if
you
haven't
done
so
already
sign
the
sheet
outside.
So
we
have
that
for
the
record,
we
have
received
many
many
letters
in
our
packets
and
then
a
big
electronic
delivery
of
a
petition
with,
I
think,
1600
comments
or
something
very
nicely
organized,
but
we
don't
need
to
repeat
all
of
them.
A
A
With
that.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter
please
come
on
up
and
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
tell
us
your
opinions
on
this
project.
N
N
N
N
N
Those
are
the
people
that
are
hungry,
they
could
use
seward,
they
could
use
access
to
seward
and
the
community
benefits
agreement
would
spell
that
out
and
so,
as
you
move
forward
with
your
process,
please
help
us
by
placing
a
contingency
based
on
a
community
benefits
agreement.
My
understanding
is
that
seward
and
can
do
representing
the
central
neighborhood
is
meeting
in
a
week,
and
we
hope
that
the
progress
on
that
community
benefits
agreement
will
move
forward
as
well.
I
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
an
update
from
your
perspective,
then
in
terms
of
how,
if,
if
this
community
benefits
agreement
has
been
brought
to
them
already
and
how
they
received
your
idea.
N
I
N
A
F
My
name
is
juan
coleman,
I'm
in
the
regina
neighborhood,
and
you
know
I
grew
up.
I
grew
up
in
the
bryant
central
neighborhood
and
I
understand
the
years
of
impact
of
this
historically
african-american
community
has
had
for
multi-generations
of
families.
F
I
am
very
concerned
about
tonight's
public
input
meeting
notice
not
being
communicated
pup
not
being
communicated
and
posted
for
seven
days,
seven
day
period
on
the
location
of
the
greater
friendship
church
site.
M
A
I
don't
see
any.
Thank
you
very
much.
Others
wishing
to
speak
on
this
matter
come
on
up
and
give
your
name
and
address.
Please.
B
B
B
It's
important
that
we
recognize
that
there
are
concerns
and
discomfort
in
the
community
surrounding
this
project
as
well
as
excitement.
So
how
do
we
actually
make
this
work?
For?
Everyone
is
the
question
I
want
to
address
tonight
and
any
development
project.
This
big
will
have
large
effects
on
a
community.
B
The
sewer
it
can
be
and
needs
to
be
more
responsive
to
the
community's
needs
and
accountable
for
the
public
money
that
they
are
and
will
be,
using,
for
example,
from
the
new
market
tax
credits,
which
is
for
development
and
low-income
communities,
and
this
is
especially
true
because
it's
in
the
steward's
own
cooperative
principles
to
be
democratic,
so
a
great
tool
that
we
can
use
and
a
tool
that
has
been
used
for
many
developing
development
projects
across
the
nation
is
a
community
benefits
agreement
that
seward
could
do
with
local
neighborhood
associations
and
stakeholders,
and
this
is
an
exciting
opportunity
for
the
seward
to
let
us
help
you
to
further
your
mission
and
express
your
their
values.
B
So
some
of
the
issues
that
are
most
important
to
me
and
my
family
and
topics
that
I've
heard
most
resonate
with
the
community
include
jobs,
and
I
recognize
that
seward
has
created
a
long-term
hiring
strategy
around
hiring
more
people
of
color.
That's
a
super
wonderful
start,
but
it's
important
to
take
a
step
further.
B
It's
also
vital
that
the
staff
be
at
all
levels
of
management
so
that
people
of
color
aren't
only
at
entry
level
positions,
but
also
at
all
levels
of
power
and
management
board
representation,
ensuring
that
a
proportional
number
of
sewered
board
seats
are
held
by
people
from
the
new
stores.
Immediate
community
is
very
important
for
the
proper
governance
of
the
new
store
and
sourcing
locally
and
supporting
a
robust
local
food
system.
We
want
sewer
to
be
serious
about
local
sourcing,
to
provide
for
the
local
food
system
on
all
levels
of
the
food
chain.
B
We
would
recognize
we
want
to
recognize
that
just
opening
the
store
in
our
neighborhood
will
not
solve
the
food
gap
for
all
of
our
neighbors.
It's
just
absolutely.
It
can't
be
true.
Still
many
won't
be
able
to
afford
the
the
organic
food
in
that
store.
A
O
How
you
doing
my
name
is
ralph
crowder
and
today
I'm
going
to
speak
for
my
uncle
and
my
aunt,
my
uncle
jim
and
my
aunt
luba,
who
stayed
for
years
at
4205,
oakland
avenue
south
my
uncle
was
a
world
war
ii,
veteran,
very
active
in
saint
peter's
and
me
church
and
the
bryant
neighborhood.
O
Along
with
my
aunt,
I
would
like
to
think
that
I
I
carry
a
certain
legacy
within
the
bryant
central
neighborhood
through
my
family,
and
I
would
like
to
speak
specifically
on
the
seward
project,
move
to
the
greater
friendship
baptist
church
for
full
disclosure.
O
I
did
add
some
assistance
to
the
african-american
public
relations
firm,
that
sewer
co-op
hired
initially
to
communicate
and
frame
some
of
the
issues
around
swords
move
into
that
historic
black
community,
which
is
right
there
on
the
corridor
of
38th
and
4th
avenue
has
a
very
extensive
community
with
a
large
amount
of
contributions
from
generations
of
african-americans
in
that
area.
O
So
with
that
said,
I
would
like
to
say
start
off
with
echoing
the
concerns
about
the
community
benefits
agreement.
I
think
that's
a
very
essential
moving
forward
with
any
discussion
with
sword
coming
into
the
bryant
central
neighborhood.
I
actually
support
the
co-op
being
there.
O
I
would
like
to
draw
some
parallels
with
the
very
exact
same
similar
situation
happening
right
now
in
portland
oregon,
where
trader
joe's
was
moving
into
the
historic
black
community
of
portland
oregon
and,
ironically
enough,
it
was
led
by
a
gary
cunningham
endorsed
organization
from
the
metropolitan
council,
the
african-american
leadership
forum
of
portland
that
had
some
definite
issues
with
accountability
for
that
particular
business
to
serve
its
community
in
an
equitable
way.
O
Since
there's
a
trendy
word
right
now,
I'll
use
that
I
think
there
should
be
with
the
community
benefits
agreement,
an
affordable
housing
component
that
is
included
with
that.
There's
been
multi
generations
of
of
specifically
african-american
families
that
have
continued
to
lose
stable
housing
in
that
area.
That
area
the
neighborhood
has
changed
drastically.
As
reported
by
the
star
tribune
in
the
last
10
years,
there's
been
a
large
move
or
exodus
out
of
the
neighborhood
to
the
suburbs,
for,
let's
just
say,
section,
8,
housing
and
things
of
that
nature.
O
I
think
this
should
be
an
opportunity
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
to
bring
some
stability
to
the
community
through
this
initial
business
model.
That's
coming
in
and
I'm
sure
it's
an
anchor
model
for
some
other
things
to
come
down
the
38th
street
corridor.
O
O
The
orange
stickers
were
posted
on
the
housing
property
for
this
issue
today
and
zoning
it
issues
from
to
get
community
input
around
that,
but,
ironically
enough,
the
church
itself
had
no
posting
on
it,
and
this
is
for
the
last
seven
days
and
I've
been
going
by
that
church
site
for,
and
so
I
can
fully
document
that,
and
I
will
communicate
that
via
email
with
the
committee
members
via
email.
O
But
if
there
is
going
to
be
community
input
around
this
issue,
make
sure
that
community
is
informed
with
the
process
and
that
is
fully
transparent
for
those
who
do
have
some
concerns
around
this
potential
opportunity
in
the
neighborhood
to
be
an
asset.
Potentially,
that
is
just
done
in
a
fully
transparent
way,
and
I
think
that
that
should
be
the
standard
of
how
the
city
of
minneapolis
operates.
A
You
and
no
questions
others
wishing
to
speak
on
this
matter.
Please
come.
P
Thanks
tom
pearson,
3225
third
avenue
south
six
blocks
from
the
site,
I'd
like
to
encourage
you
to
approve
this
with
the
70
parking
spaces
that
have
been
described,
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
reference
to
the
store
in
the
seward
neighborhood,
which
greatly
exceeded
their
projected
sails
initially
out
of
the
gate,
and
so
the
parking
is
very
cramped
there,
because
there
was
a
lot
more
interest
in
that
site
than
they
had
anticipated.
I
was
parking
there
earlier
today,
it's
difficult
to
maneuver.
P
P
I
think
that
this
approval
should
happen
without
a
contingency
for
community
benefit
agreement.
I
I
believe
that
community
benefit
agreements
are
worthwhile
mechanisms
for
you,
as
a
planning
commission,
to
consider
when
institutions
are
negotiating
planning
processes
within
communities
and
particularly
because
there
is
no
way
to
affect
the
highest
level
of
governance
in
many
of
the
institutions
that
come
to
you
with
plans
within
these
communities.
P
But
for
that
to
be
a
focal
point,
a
contingency
of
this
approval
would
put
too
much
emphasis
on
that
mechanism
and
that,
ultimately,
there
needs
to
be
two
pathways
for
community
participation
in
affecting
this
site.
Community
benefit
agreement
is
legitimate,
but
also
there
needs
to
be
a
not
merely
a
transactional
thought
process
with
the
seward
co-op.
In
this
neighborhood
there
needs
to
be
something
that
is
transformational,
and
by
that
I
mean
the
people
in
the
community,
need
to
take
ownership
of
that
site
and
affect
change
within
seward
co-op,
and
that
mechanism
exists.
A
I
I
actually
have
a
question
for
staff
and
it's
probably
jason,
but
I
can't
actually
recall
when
we've
made
ever
made
a
project
contingent
on
agreement
on
a
community
benefits
agreement.
Is
that
something
that
is
in
the
planning
commission's
purview
or
where
does
that
mean?
Is
this
a
city
council
thing?
Is
it
this
something
we're
allowed
to
do?
I'm
just
I
don't
know.
J
Commissioners,
it
really
is
outside
the
scope
of
the
commission's
authority,
particularly
many
of
the
things
that
we
heard
people
discussing
as
potentially
being
incorporated
into
a
community
benefits
agreement.
We
can
certainly
wish
the
community
and
the
seward
good
luck
in
arriving
at
that
kind
of
agreement,
but
those
things
are
just
outside
the
scope
of
the
commission's.
A
Authority:
okay,
any
other
comments,
actions.
C
A
Commissioner
brown,
oh
I'm
sorry.
I.
C
Just
had
a
quick
follow-up
question
for
staff
too,
could
you
just
talk
about
the
notification
process,
because
I
believe
we
do
mailings
as
well
as
posted
notifications?
Mr
wittenberg
could
just
talk
about
what
we've
done.
J
In
this
case,
certainly,
commissioner
bender,
we
have
many
channels
of
notification
that
go
out.
I
wish
I
had
the
list
in
front
of
me.
However,
it
does
include
notice
in
a
newspaper.
It
includes
a
notice
to
the
neighborhood
association.
It
includes
notice
to
all
property
owners
within
350
feet
of
of
all
the
seward
properties
in
question.
J
D
D
And
I
I
I
would
just
like
to
reiterate
very
quickly
what
mr
wittenberg
had
just
said,
certainly
very
excited
about
the
just
discussion
surrounding
a
community
benefits
agreement.
But
again
it's
something
that
really
isn't
within
our
purview
or
our
framework
for
for
making
a
decision
on
these
land
use
applications.
A
Okay
other
comments
on
the
motion
for
approving
a
b
and
c.
If
not
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
D
That's
that's
right
and
I
will
start
with
variance
f
and
I
will
move
that
we
deny
variance
f.
That
is
the
variance
for
reducing
the
rear
yard
setback
for
the
parking
lot.
A
Okay,
I'll
move;
second,
okay,
moved
in
second
that
that's
the
the
one
that
will
be
taken
care
of
by
some
different
configuration
of
the
parking
lot.
Okay,
let's
call
a
roll
on
that.
One.
D
D
Item
k,
the
site
plan
review
with
the
15
stated
conditions,
and
I
would
like
to
make
a
modif
modification
to
condition
number
10
related
to
the
northwest
corner
of
the
building.
I
would
like
to
re-word
that
so
that
it
reads
that
the
elevator
storage
room
at
the
corner
of
the
building
shall
include
transparent
windows,
include
artwork
and
provide
visibility
into
the
store.
A
The
staff
recommendation
modifying
condition
10,
as
you
just
stated:
okay,
let's
have
a
second
on
that
to
get
that
on
the
floor.
Okay,
that's
moved
and
seconded.
F
K
K
K
So
I
was
walking
here
on
the
street
and
as
people
walk,
they
walk
parallel
to
the
building
face
and
they're
actually
looking
towards
the
doors,
as
you
walk
parallel
to
a
building
face.
So
with
the
canopy
and
with
maybe
some
concrete
treatments.
I
think
that
entrance
will
be
fairly
well
identified
and-
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
true-
with
the
dimension
of
the
north-south
dimension
of
the
inside
of
the
store-
is
really
tight
and
accessible.
K
A
K
Yes,
well,
I
completely
agree
with
the
intent
of
this
condition.
K
I
don't
think
the
sidewalk
is
going
to
be
used
as
staff
as
sketched
out
and
also
the
concern
with
the
parallel
parking
is,
is
really
quite
real,
as
the
applicant
laid
out
with
us
having
a
one-way
drive
with
people
trying
to
parallel
park
and
people
trying
to
exit
the
parking
lot,
it's
going
to
be
a
nightmare.
So,
with
the
added
green
to
the
east
side
of
the
of
the
lot,
I
think
that's
actually
a
better
benefit
than
trying
to
get
a
pedestrian
space.
A
A
If
not,
our
main
motion
is
to
approve
the
slight
plan
review
with
now.
What
are
we
down
to
13
conditions
and
a
modification
on
what
has
been
numbered,
condition
10.?
That
sounds
right.
Okay,.
K
F
A
Okay,
any
other
discussion
on
the
main
motion.
If
not
the
clerk,
please
call
a
roll.
A
Okay
continuing
two
more
and
I
would.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
that
completes
business
on
that
and
we
trust
that
the
seward
co-op
will
continue
working
with
the
bryant
and
central
neighborhoods
in
the
spirit
of
a
community
benefits
agreement
and,
as
was
pointed
out,
your
governance
structure
allows
for
the
community
to
get
in
and
and
modify
the
way
the
store
operates
in
their
neighborhood.
So
we
look
forward
to
that.
A
J
Just
a
very
robust
committee,
the
whole
agenda
this
thursday.