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From YouTube: September 17, 2015 Intergovernmental Relations
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Minneapolis Intergovernmental Relations Committee Meeting
A
Good
afternoon
I'm
calling
to
order
our
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
intergovernmental
relations
committee.
My
name
is
Elizabeth
glidden
I'm,
the
chair
of
this
committee
and
I'm
joined
today
by
council
members,
Quincy
fry
and
Andrew
Johnson.
We
are
a
quorum
of
this
committee.
We
have
three
items
on
our
agenda
today,
and
so
we
will
just
call
them
up
in
order.
The
first
item
is
regarding
our
federal
representation
services,
so
invite
up
mr.
Ranieri
to
give
us
an
overview
of
this
item.
Thank.
B
You,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Jean
Ranieri
and
the
director
of
government
relations
for
the
city.
We
did
have
a
three-year
contract
with
very,
very
BD.
Consulting
we
did
go
out
with
an
RFP.
We
developed
an
RFP
was
approved
by
the
permanent
review
committee.
Was
we
had
five
responses?
A
review
team
of
the
city
I
went
through
those
responses.
Three
of
the
firm's
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
federal
with
cities.
They
were
mostly
in
the
healthcare
field
in
communications
and
the
other
firm
had
conflicts
with
other
cities.
B
B
We
also
are
recommending
that
we
reevaluate
the
process
again
next
year
because,
to
be
very
frank,
not
very
much
is
happening
in
Washington
and
we
need
to
just
be
watched
that
and
watch
that
a
BD
4vfa
career,
ed
will
be
working.
We've
asked
them
to
work
more
carefully
and
work
work
more
diligently
in
the
area
of
the
federal
executive
actions.
B
There's
not
a
lot
going
to
infect
legislatively
so
we're
asking
them
to
continue
to
work
when
things
like
the
promise
zone
body,
cams
grants,
lots
of
new
federal
regulations
are
coming
in
the
area
of
aviation,
also
in
transportation.
So
those
areas
we
also
they're
going
to
be
visiting
with
us
once
quarterly
here
in
the
city
to
go
over
and
meet
with
us
to
discuss,
what's
good
happening.
So
that's
the
differences
and
that's
the
summary
all.
A
Right
well,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
report.
For
the
sake
of
discussion,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move.
There
are
actually
two
items
connected
this
action.
The
first
is
to
receive
and
file
the
ethics
officer
report,
which
is
required
anytime,
that
we
have
a
contract
with
lobbyists
of
these
type,
and
so
this
would
be
to
receive
and
file
that
report
and
then
the
second
item
would
be
to
authorize
a
contract
for
ninety
seven
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
for
the
period
of
august
1st
2015
to
July
thirty-first
2016,
and
that
contract
amount
is
twenty.
A
A
Next,
we
have
another
discussion
item
which
is
the
city
of
Minneapolis
is
proposed
comments
on
xcel
energy
is
2016
20
30
resource
plan
and
I
will
just
note
that
after
we
take
action
in
our
committee,
the
next
step
for
this
would
be
to
refer
it
to
the
health
environment
and
community
engagement
committee,
which
is
the
policy
committee
for
these
types
of
issues.
So
we
have
mr.
Brendan
slaughter
back
here.
Mr.
Slovak
thank.
C
You,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
Britain
slaughter
back
from
the
sustainability
office
here
at
the
city.
I,
do
have
some
slides
today
to
go
over
with
you
to
introduce
you
a
little
bit
to
the
resource
plan
that
Excel
has
filed
talk
about
some
of
the
key
issues
that
we
believe
the
city
should
address
as
part
of
the
comment
period
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
background
about
excels
filing.
So
just
briefly
in
case
you're
not
familiar.
What
integrated
resource
planning
is.
C
Basically,
this
is
a
long
term
planning
tool
that
all
electric
utilities
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
are
required
to
use
to
identify
what
their
customer
needs
will
be
and
then
tell
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
how
they'll
meet
those
needs,
both
in
terms
of
capacity,
so
how
much
how
many
generating
units
they
have,
but
also
the
total
energy
the
amount
of
electricity
that
they
need
to
produce
state
law.
Minnesota
says
it
must
be
an
integrated
resource
plan
and
to
them
integrated
means
they
need
to
use
both
supply
and
demand
side
resources
in
their
plant.
C
C
These
plans
are
supposed
to
be
filed
every
two
years
with
the
Public
Utilities
Commission,
but
in
practice
that
tends
to
dry
out
because
it
takes
actually
sometimes
multiple
years
for
the
Utility
Commission
to
even
approve
a
plan,
so
in
practice
it
sometimes
takes
a
little
bit
longer
and
then
obviously.
Finally,
the
the
ultimate
decision-maker
for
the
plan
is
the
Public
Utilities
Commission.
So
in
this
case,
the
city
and
many
other
parties
are
going
to
be
submitting
comments,
but
the
the
PUC
is
really
the
ultimate
authority.
C
C
In
addition,
the
council
considered
and
adopted
on
august
twenty-first
some
energy
and
climate
policy
positions.
One
of
the
items
in
those
positions
for
the
next
year
period
was
the
integrated
resource
plan.
We
saw
that
coming
up
as
an
item,
so
that
was
included
and
adopted
by
council
is
something
we
should
comment
on.
Just
briefly
to
give
you
some
sense
of
the
scope
here.
This
is
the
chart
of
Minneapolis
is
overall
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
citywide
activities.
The
blue
bars
that
you
see
at
the
bottom
are
the
emissions
from
the
use
of
electricity
in
the
city.
C
Those
are
about
forty
percent
of
the
total
emissions
from
from
the
city
as
a
whole,
so
the
electricity
piece
of
our
emissions
pie
really
has
a
significant
impact
on
our
overall
goals.
We
have
made
a
lot
of
progress
since
2006
about
a
little
over
nine
percent
reduction
in
emissions.
We
think
that
about
fifty
percent
of
the
reason
for
that
reduction
is
that
we're
getting
our
electricity
from
cleaner
sources
so
again,
what
Excel
does
with
their
system
has
significant
impacts
on
our
goals.
D
D
C
So
some
major
issues
that
we've
identified
in
this
resource
plan,
obviously,
as
I
talked
about
the
energy
resource
mix
and
the
overall
emissions.
One
of
the
big
issues
in
this
plan
is
the
future
of
the
sherburne
county
generating
units
one
and
two
which
I'll
may
call
sherco
in
the
future.
This
plan
also
again
the
demand
side
issue,
so
the
goals
that
the
utility
has
for
energy
efficiency
at
the
service
territory
level
are
what
they're
tackling
in
this
plan,
but
that
really
has
an
impact
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
locally
rate
impacts.
C
An
important
note.
Any
entity
can
actually
submit
a
resource
plan
for
excel,
and
in
this
case,
two
entities
did
submit
alternative
plans
that
the
Commission
has
to
consider.
Equally
with
excels
plan,
the
Department
of
Commerce
division
of
energy
resources
submitted
a
plan,
and
then
a
group
of
clean
energy
organizations
in
the
state
submitted
their
own
plan
as
well,
and
both
completed
the
full
kind
of
modeling
that
they
need
to
do
to
show
how
their
plans
stack
up
versus
excels
plan.
C
The
difference
in
these
plans
really
revolve
around
a
few
things,
a
few
big
things
really
again
how
they
treat
the
future
of
those
sherco
units,
the
energy
efficiency
goals
and
then
there's
some
information
about
modeled
costs.
That's
sort
of
different
in
those
plans
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
those
things
in
my
comments
coming
up,
but
our
comments
that
you
see
and
draft
before
you
do
reference
some
things
that
are
called
out
in
those
alternative
plants.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that.
C
So
a
little
bit,
a
the
next
few
slides
are
a
little
bit
about,
what's
in
excels
plan
that
they've
actually
proposed
to
the
PUC.
So
significantly,
I
think
on
the
positive
side,
Excel
has
proposed
significant
additions
of
renewable
energy
reduction
in
coal
use
over
the
next
15
years.
These
pie,
charts
here,
show
you
the
kind
of
current
energy
mix
that
they
have
and
then
the
future
planned
that
they're
proposing
through
their
their
resource
plan.
C
One
of
the
alternative
plans
submitted
by
the
clean
energy
organizations
take
some
issue
with
whether
this
is
this
actually
results
in
what
itself
says
it
does.
But
this
is
what's
proposed
in
excels
plan,
so
you
can
see
additions
of
wind
and
solar
pretty
significantly
to
their
system
over
the
next
15
years.
C
They
suggest
that
they
step
their
goal
down
to
one
point:
three
percent
and
just
for
your
reference,
there's
a
goal
in
state
law
that
electric
utilities
should
hit
one
and
a
half
percent
annual
energy
efficiency.
Electric
utility,
so
they're
actually
proposing
the
Commissioner
can
approve
something
lower
than
one-and-a-half
percent.
But
the
state
law
goal
is:
is
one
that
have
risen?
C
There
isn't
a
great
deal
of
information,
detailed
information
in
the
plan,
yet
about
rate
impacts.
They
have.
This
is
kind
of
a
little
bit
hard
to
read.
I
apologize,
it's
pulled
from
the
plan,
but
they
do
have
a
little
bit
of
information
about
incremental
rate
impacts,
but
they've
said
that
they're
going
to
be
supplying
more
because
a
lot
of
the
commenters
have
asked
specifically
broken
out
by
customer
type.
They
this
is
all
customers
lumped
together
in
sort
of
an
average.
C
It
does
show
a
lot
of
the
rate
impacts
will
be,
there
won't
be
significant
rate
impacts
in
the
near
term,
but
there'll
be
more
in
the
out
year,
so
beyond
20
20
and
20
25.
But
a
lot
of
people
are
interested
in
the
comment
period
about
what
happens
for
each
type
of
customer
residential
versus
commercial
versus
industrial.
So
we
hope
there
will
be
more
information
on
that
coming
out
soon
total
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
This
is
the
again
the
modeled
results
that
Excel
has
produced.
C
They're
saying
there
are
overall
whole
system,
for
this
includes
not
just
Minnesota,
but
parts
of
Wisconsin
and
Michigan
would
reduce.
This
plan
would
reduce
their
emissions
about
forty
two
percent
from
2005
baseline.
The
blue
line
is
represents
their
previous
plan,
so
you
can
see
they've
taken
a
significantly
different
tact
than
the
previous
plan
and
they're
they're
modeling,
pretty
significant
reductions
over
15
years
criteria,
pollutants
the
items
that
basically
affect
air
quality
directly
or
health.
They
are
projecting
some
reductions.
C
The
next
few
slides
are
kind
of
summaries
of
what
is
before
you
in
the
comments
and
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
these
and
summarize
some
of
the
key
pieces
that
are
in
the
letter
that
will
be
submitting
the
puc.
We
do
want
to
recognize.
Obviously,
in
these
comments
that
Excel
and
the
city
are
partners
in
the
cleaners,
your
partnership
that
we're
working
together
to
pursue
state
goals,
we
discuss
in
the
in
the
comments
that
there's
significant
energy
savings
potential
in
the
city.
C
We
think
that
there
is
based
on
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done,
but
we
stress
that
we
think
that
adopting
an
energy
savings
goal,
at
least
one
and
a
half
percent,
if
not
higher,
might
be
appropriate.
Giving
some
of
the
comments
that
are
in
the
alternative
plans
that
have
submitted
some
of
the
information
about
excels
success
with
energy
efficiency
program.
So
we're
saying
to
the
Commission
one-point-three
percent
that
excels
proposed
for
those
out.
Yours
is
not
probably
not
appropriate.
So.
E
C
F
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
this
or
slower
back
quick
question
regarding
the
use
of
solar,
specifically
under
major
solar
developers.
If
a
major
solar
developer
puts
up
a
developed,
the
whole
solar
plan,
and
then
it
co
locates
several
of
those
and
then
transfers
the
energy
back
onto
the
grid,
does
that
mean
seemingly
that
energy
would
still
have
to
go
through
cells
system?
Does
that
count
towards
their
percentage
that
we
saw?
It
was
eight
percent
where
they're
presently
ant.
C
Yeah,
the
the
answer
is
usually
yes,
but
it
can
depend.
Usually
what
happens
is
that
Excel
does
count
that
solar
as
part
of
their
overall
mix?
The
you
know
the
way
a
renewable
energy
is
tracked
is
through
something
called
renewable
energy
credits,
and
usually
the
developer
will
sell.
Those
or
Excel
will
get
those
credits,
so
they
can
count
the
solar
as
theirs.
F
C
But
usually
the
developer
does
get
a
there's,
there's
a
monetary
reward
for
turning
over
those
those
credits.
Okay,
in
the
case
of
community
solar
I'd,
have
to
follow
up
with
you
on
the
details,
but
in
the
case
of
community
solar,
for
example,
there
is
a
monetary
difference
between
whether
you
keep
those
yourself
or
whether
you
give
them
to
excel.
Okay,
that's
helpful.
Thank.
C
The
moving
on
another
group
of
our
comments.
We
looked
at
the
carbon
intensity
again
that
was
sort
of
planned
over
that
15
year
period
and
then
looked
at
our
long-term
climate
goals,
so
it
thirty
percent
reduction
by
2025.
They
are
proposing
again
significant
reductions.
We
think
if
they
can
meet
those
targets,
that
they
will
help
us
significantly
to
meet
our
our
climate
goals.
But
we
do
think
that
there
are
greater
reductions
that
maybe
possible,
especially
when
we
looked
at
the
alternative
plans
that
were
submitted
by
the
Department
of
Commerce
and
the
clean
energy
organizations.
C
There
seems
to
be
very
little
cost
difference
between
some
of
these
deeper
carbon
reductions,
that
the
alternative
plans
are
proposing
and
what
Excel
is
proposing.
So
in
our
comments
were
asking
the
Commission
to
look
carefully
at
those
and
if
there
can
be
deeper
carbon
reductions
that
that
that
be
the
preference
early
early
and
rapid
action
on
those
carbon
reductions
is
important.
C
We
believe
that-
or
we
say
in
these
comments-
that
the
resource
plan
should
provide
some
certainty
about,
what's
going
to
happen
with
those
two
sherco
units,
so
the
current
Excel
plan
basically
shows
them
operating
beyond
2030
beyond
the
current
planning
horizon,
but
sort
of
ramping
them
down
over
time.
The
clean
energy
organizations
have
asked
the
baby
that
units
one
and
two
either
be
retired
or
repowered.
The
Department
of
Commerce
has
suggested
that
one
of
them
beery
powered
by
natural
gas,
but
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
the
comments.
C
It's
clear
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
do
something
with
those
units,
so
we're
asking
there
needs
to
be
some
certainty
for
all
the
stakeholders
involved
in
what
happens
with
those
two
units
we
do
say
in
the
comments.
We
think
that
excels
kind
of
under
estimating
the
demand
for
solar
resources,
in
particular
by
customers,
particularly
in
the
in
the
realm
of
community
solar,
their
planned
amount,
is
going
to
be
effectively
used
up
in
very
few
years,
even
though
this
is
supposed
to
be
a
15-year
planning
period.
C
So
we
want
them
to
reflect
that
in
the
plan
we
think
there's
a
lot
of
demand
in
Minneapolis
and
beyond
for
renewable
energy
sources,
more
options
for
customers
to
interact
with
the
with
the
electric
utility.
A
lot
of
the
new
resources
that
excels
planning
are
actually
going
to
come
online,
they're
saying
after
2025
and
we're
saying,
people
are
demanding
these
things
now,
and
so
we
shouldn't
wait
beyond
that
horizon
to
put
those
into
the
plan
and
then
finally,
you
know
this
plan
goes
to
2030
our
climate
action
goals
go
out
to
2050.
C
State
statute
actually
says
Excel
should
to
think
about
2050
in
their
resource
planning.
So
this
is
kind
of
just
a
general
comment
about.
We
want
to
continue
to
work
with
Excel.
We
want
to
work
with
the
Department
Commerce
figure
out
what
those
long-term
strategies
are.
It's
going
to
be
a
major
challenge
to
hit
the
eighty
percent
reduction
goal,
and
so
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
start
working
on
that
now,
so
that
we're
not
caught
off
guard
in
twenty
twenty
or
twenty
thirty
to
try
to
meet
those
really
aggressive
targets?
C
Again.
A
madam
chair,
as
you
mentioned,
the
next
step
in
this
is
referred
to
a
GCE
I
did
want
to
just
note
that
the
comment
deadline
for
this
period
in
the
plan
is
October.
Second,
we've
been
talking
to
folks
in
the
community
in
our
community
environmental
Advisory
Committee.
They
can
continue
to
comment
on
this
up
until
October
second
and
the
PUC
does
have
a
mechanism
on
their
website
with
which
they
can
do
that.
So
we're
getting
the
word
out
about
that.
That's
concludes
my
presentation.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer.
Any
questions
are.
A
C
A
So
I'll
move
then
to
approve
these
comments
and
send
you
on
your
way
to
H
ECE
and
for
additional
feedback
from
that
committee.
Discussion
on
the
motion,
seeing
none
own
approval,
please
say
aye
aye
opposed,
and
that
item
is
approved
and
thank
you
so
much
for
a
detailed
presentation
on
what
we
know
is
a
really
important
topic.
So
thank
you
very
much.
We
have
one
final
item
on
our
agenda
for
today,
and
this
is
our
regularly
occurring
item
of
federal
state
and
local
legislative
update.
So
mr.
Ranieri
are
there
some
items
for
presentation
discussion
today.
A
B
Chair
there
are
items
for
presentation
and
discussion.
Why
is
the
federal
level
13
days
from
now?
The
federal
fiscal
year
ends
and
the
new
one
it
begins.
Unfortunately,
Congress
has
not
passed
a
budget.
There
is
some
concern.
There
could
be
a
shutdown
over
the
Planned
Parenthood
issues,
it's
probable
that
there
will
be
a
short-term
commutes
continuing
resolution
again
and
then,
when
Congress
comes
back
after
in
November,
possibly
making
it
more
long-term,
so
lots
of
uncertainty
of
the
federal
level
in
terms
of
a
budget
for
the
cities
and
for
all
the
projects
we
work
on
I.
B
Think
of
sure,
if
there
is
a
shutdown,
if
it's
short,
we
should
be
okay,
but
overall,
the
lot
of
folks,
particularly
the
Senate
arts,
don't
want
to
do,
is
shut
down.
There
seems
to
be
some
concern
in
the
house
between
among
the
caucus
between
the
caucus
members
on
on
the
majority
and
there's
concern
to
possibly
they
will
shut
down.
There's
also
a
possibility
that
it
could
be
a
leadership
change
too.
B
So
it's
a
little
uncertain
in
the
house
of
representatives
also
on
mutton
on
Monday,
the
president
announced
some
initiatives
in
the
whole
area
of
smart
cities.
He
is
unable
to
have
some
national
foundation,
some
appropriations
to
provide
funding
for
things
that
doing
with
transportation
things
like
lighting
heating
things
up
those
nature's
none
of
the
RFQ
rfps
are
out
one
of
the
things
that
impacts
our
city
and
the
city
of
st.
B
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
is
the
details
of
that
yet,
but
we
will
be
working
with
the
you
and
our
city
staff
here
to
find
what
some
of
those
projects-
maybe
there's
not
a
lot
of
money
in
this,
but
it's
really
to
try
and
foster
the
university
and
cities
working
together.
Man
jets
at
the
federal
level
is
not
very
much
there.
I
guess
they
at
the
state
level.
The
first
of
the
bonding
tours
is
on
Tuesday.
B
The
october
fourteenth
tour
is
with
the
house
that
will
include
the
university
of
minnesota
and
our
normal
partners,
the
park
board
and
the
county
and
in
december
again
this
is
one
of
those
long
days
with
the
university
and
all
of
us
together,
and
that
will
be
the
Senate
and
those
genders
we
put
together
to
this
week
and
next,
the
League
of
Minnesota
cities
and
metro
cities
are
finishing
up
on
their
policy
development
process.
They
will
have
their
policies
out
for
distribution
and
review
by
their
board
and
members
within
the
next
month
or
two.
B
Our
staffs
been
very
involved
in
the
process
and
been
able
to
get
some
policies
that
we
have
improved
here
into
the
lake
that
they
can
work
with
us
on
at
the
Capitol,
and
we
will
have
a
report
for
you
at
next
meeting.
Sasha
Bergman
will
report
on
that
issue.
We've
worked
on
about
eight
or
nine
issues
at
the
house,
and
the
excuse
me
in
the
League
of
Cities
and
or
open
next
week
will
be
the
final
week
for
metro
cities.