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Description
Minneapolis Community Development and Regulatory Services Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning
welcome
to
the
community
development
of
regulatory
services
committee
for
today,
August
fifteenth.
This
is
a
change
in
the
time
and
date.
Due
to
the
election.
Last
week,
I've
been
joined
by
council
members
were
Sami
fry
and
Quincy,
which
is
a
quorum
of
the
committee.
We
have
a
lengthy
consent
agenda
that
I'm
going
to
move.
First,
they
include
items
6
through
14.
Are
there
any
items?
Anyone
would
like
to
pull
items
seven
actually
through
14
singing
on
I'll
move
the
consent
agenda,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed.
A
B
Sure,
Goodman
and
committee
members
I'm
Beth
gross
and
senior
project
coordinator
at
sea
pad.
The
purpose
of
this
public
hearing
is
to
consider
sale
of
seven
parcels
at
the
southeast
and
southwest
corners
of
pan
and
Plymouth
Avenue.
The
sale
would
be
to
happen,
county's
housing
and
redevelopment
authority
for
a
major
expansion
of
North,
Point
Health
and
Wellness
Center,
including
a
parking
structure
and
commercial
development.
This
is
a
large
and
important
project
involving
over
70
million
in
new
investment
for
North
Minneapolis.
B
The
city
of
Minneapolis
has
owned
the
commercial
lots
for
over
20
years.
The
south
east
site
is
1.3.
Acres
in
its
own,
see
to
the
southwest
site
is
point.
Eight
one
acre
in
a
zoned,
orf2
Northwest,
but
North
Point,
health
and
wellness
center
is
the
60
one
thousand
square-foot
two-story
federally
qualified
health
center
and
hennepin
counties.
Department
of
Primary
Care
North
quite
now
serves
over
24,000
patients.
B
With
over
90,000
visits
per
year,
an
additional
10,000
residents
received
social
services
provided
in
the
North
Point
Inc
building
the
North
Point
campus
includes
medical,
dental,
Behavioral,
Health,
Pharmacy,
laboratory
social
services,
chemical
dependency,
computer
lab
and
nonprofit
partner
organizations.
The
Hennepin
County
Board
of
Commissioners
has
committed
to
expand
and
renovate
North
Point
to
better
serve
its
growing
client
base.
Following
approval
of
this
land
sale,
the
expansion
and
renovation
will
begin
later
this
year.
Development
around
the
intersection
will
be
done
in
phases.
B
First
on
the
southeast
corner,
Thor
Development,
Group
LLC
will
develop
and
build
a
commercial
building,
including
a
600
stall
parking
structure.
Wrapped
with
retail
and
two
stories
of
office
space
hennepin
county
will
purchase
420
parking
spaces
from
Thor
after
construction
is
completed,
Thor
plans
to
have
their
headquarters
here
and
also
lease
commercial
space
to
support
entrepreneurs
in
North
Minneapolis.
So.
A
B
B
B
Shifting
to
the
land
transaction
itself,
the
city
land
was
appraised
at
five
dollars
and
seventy-five
cents
per
square
foot
for
the
southeast
parcels
and
five
dollars
per
square
foot
for
the
southwest
parcels
for
a
total
of
five
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars.
However,
this
value
does
not
include
the
environmental
cleanup,
which
is
expected
to
be
significant
well
in
excess
of
the
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
is
greater
than
the
appraised
value.
B
Hennepin
County
has
agreed
to
be
responsible
for
all
environmental
cleanup
class
and
in
return,
the
city
will
sell
its
property
for
a
dollar
the
term
sheet.
Before
you
details,
the
critical
business
points
that
ensure
high
quality
development
will
occur
on
three
of
the
four
corners
at
pan
and
Plymouth.
These
developments
will
complement
the
activity
on
the
Urban
League
corner
and
the
nearby
neighbors
Thor
will
purchase
the
land
on
the
southeast
corner
from
Hennepin
County
after
receiving
city
planning
approvals.
This
fall
following
necessary
brownfield.
B
Cleanup
work
for
will
begin
construction
of
the
large
commercial
and
parking
building
on
the
southeast
corner,
which
is
next
to
you.
Rock
a
public
open
house
was
held
July
26
with
North
Side
residents,
development
council
kind
of
jointly
hosting
it
I
received
an
email
response
early
this
morning
from
Martine
smaller,
the
Newark
executive
director
I,
believe
those
comments
have
been
distributed
to
you
and
there's
also
some
available
for
the
public.
She
wrote,
though,
the
event
was
well
attended
by
Hennepin
County,
North
Point
other
employees
working
directly
on
this
project.
B
B
A
B
Councilmember
Goodman,
I
I
think.
The
primary
reason
is
that
hennepin
county
has
been
the
party
that
wanted
to
kind
of
arranged
the
entire
redevelopment
and
to
make
certain
that
there
was
parking
available
for
a
North
Point
and
honestly.
They
wanted
to
retain
the
right
to
have
a
different
developer
in
the
event
that
something
didn't
turn
out
a
fourth
or
so
they
wanted
certain.
He
in
in
controlling
in
all
all
of
the
the
city-owned
land,
because
I'm.
A
Sure
they
did
but
I
guess
it
raises
the
question
that
the
neighbors
raised,
which
is
that
there
was
no
formal
RFP
process
and
we're
essentially
abdicating
our
citizen
participation
role
by
just
saying,
OK
County
you
deal
with
it
I'm.
Okay,
with
that,
if
we're
not
being
asked
to
fund
this,
so
I
guess
that
gets
into
my
next
question:
we're
not
being
asked
to
fund
a
single
penny
of
this
correct.
A
That
is
correct,
so
in
a
sense
hennepin
county
is
taking
over
as
the
primary
agency
for
redevelopment
of
this
corner
and
as
such,
we're
just
saying
we
think
women
north
points
been
trying
to
do
this,
for
I
think
that
as
long
as
I've
been
on
the
council,
so
Hennepin
County
I,
want
to
be
clear.
You're
saying
out
loud
is
not
asking
us
to
contribute
a
penny
to
the
Thor
deal
or
the
parking
or
the
Estes
funeral
home
move
or
their
parking
or
the
expansion
of
north
point
is
that
correct.
That
is
correct.
A
That
would
might
be
the
answer
to
why
the
property
went
to
the
county
instead
of
if
there
was
going
to
be
public
assistance,
requested
I
would
insist
on
an
RFP
to
make
it
fair
to
anyone
else
who
wanted
to
participate.
But
if
hennepin
county
wants
to
take
the
responsibility
themselves,
then
the
public
should
be
talking
to
Hennepin
County
about
what
their
concerns
own
we're
just
passing
through
the
money.
The
plan
to
facilitate
the
development
correct
that.
B
A
A
Okay,
other
questions
for
mr.
Olson,
anyone
else,
okay,
seeing
none!
Thank
you
for
your
report.
There
are
a
number
of
people
here
on
this
item
today.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak,
but
I
am
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
land,
sale
of
the
expansion,
North
Point
health
and
wellness
center.
A
number
of
properties
involved,
including
a
reorganization
of
the
corner,
with
the
various
entities
involved.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
A
E
A
Councilmember
were
Sammy's
motion
to
approve
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
approved.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
for
that
today,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
two,
which
is
the
sea
pad
business
licenses
and
Consumer
Services
agenda,
starting
with
item
number
two.
Mr.
Wilson
thank.
F
This
has
been
a
on
sell,
liquor,
establishment
since
at
least
1977
and
through
2014.
This
is
in
the
Cedar
Riverside
neighborhood
in
the
sixth
ward
star
investments.
Inc
is
comprised
of
three
owners.
Raj
Singh
guide,
vendor
sing
in
Cory
Juilliard
will
be
the
owners
and
Korey
Kuhl
yard
will
be
the
general
manager
of
the
business.
F
The
fire
occupancy
for
the
first
floor
is
166
persons
and
eighty
eight
persons
on
the
mezzanine
level.
The
kitchens
and
restrooms
remain
on
the
main
floor
of
the
building.
They
will
operate
as
a
traditional
restaurant
and
bar
offering
live
entertainment,
including
bands,
DJs,
dancing
and
etc.
A
public
hearing
is
required
because
they're
upgrading
to
a
class
b
license.
F
A
G
C
H
A
A
F
Madam
chair,
we
have
an
application
by
scratch-made
LLC
doing
business
as
a
scratch,
grill
and
lounge
at
408
third
avenue
north.
They
are
seeking
an
onsale
liquor
license
with
Sunday
sales,
Class,
B
entertainment
and
a
sidewalk
cafe.
This
site
has
been
similarly
licensed,
but
it
only
had
the
class
to
entertainment,
so
this
is
an
upgrade.
This
is
in
the
North
Loop
neighborhood
in
Ward
3,
and
it
is
a
permitted
use
in
this
downtown
zoning
district
seating
capacity
inside
is
for
120
persons
outside
on
the
sidewalk.
F
F
It
will
offer
a
variety
of
entertainment
with
featuring
local
bands
and
things
like
that.
Public
hearing
is
required
to
this
upgrade.
We
did
notify
all
residents
and
property
owners
within
450
feet.
We
notified
that
North
Loop
neighborhood
association,
the
downtown
neighborhood
association
in
the
warehouse
district
business
association.
As
of
today,
we
received
no
responses
from
that
notification
process.
Staffs
recommendation
is
that
you
approve
the
license
this.
A
C
A
E
Madam
chair
I'll,
happily
move
approval
of
this
item
and
speak
to
it
for
a
second,
you
know
you're,
absolutely
right.
This
is
one
of
the
very
last
underdeveloped
blocks
and
north
loop
and
I
think
it
provides
some
activity
and
infrastructure
to
to
a
gap
that
presently
exists.
So
we're
thrilled
to
have
your
your
beverage,
your
food,
as
well
as
the
activity
that
you're
providing
along
with
this
the
outdoor
seating.
So
thank
you
appling
with
approval
I.
C
A
F
You,
madam
chair,
we
do
have
an
application
by
shins
hair
salon.
They
are
located
at
211,
Oak,
Street
southeast
on
the
second
floor,
and
they
currently
have
a
place
of
entertainment
licensed
to
provide
kuroki
and
they're
asking
right
now
for
a
extended
hours
of
operation
license.
They
are
currently
allowed
to
be
open
from
six
a.m.
to
10pm
during
the
week
and
to
11
p.m.
friday
and
saturday.
F
They
are
seeking
to
extend
their
hours
on
friday
and
saturday
until
3am.
Public
hearing
is
required
for
this
extended
hours
license
and
we
did
notify
all
residents
and
property
owners
within
300
feet.
We
did
notify
the
stadium
village,
commercial
association
in
the
mid-city
industrial
neighborhood
association.
We
received
no
responses
for
or
against
this
application.
I'm
staff
recommendation
is
to
approve,
are.
A
A
I
You,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
mark
ruff
the
city's
chief
financial
officer
each
year
by
September.
First,
the
city
is
required
to
hold
a
public
hearing
on
business
licenses.
The
proposal
for
2017
is
not
to
change
any
of
the
license
fees.
The
public
hearing
notice
was
published
in
finance
and
commerce
was
also
sent
to
businesses
on
july
12.
The
city
did
receive
3
comments
by
email.
J
A
I
Chair
members
of
the
committee,
a
number
of
factors
have
been
brewing
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
One
is
the
city
is
implementing
a
new
computer
software
program,
that's
commonly
known
as
Elms
or
the
enterprise
land
management
system.
That
should
automate
some
functions
and
provide
some
efficiencies
in
the
business
licenses
process.
To
is,
there
are
a
number
of
business
licenses.
I
Versus
expenses
and
make
sure
by
state
law
that
those
match
up,
we
do
anticipate
coming
back
to
this
committee
in
early
2017,
with
some
potential
recommendations
for
the
committee's
consideration,
but
certainly
will
be
undertaking
that
with
adequate
time
for
all
effective
businesses.
To
comment
as
well.
A
Are
there
other
questions
for
mr.
rough
on
item
number
5,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
for
your
report,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
five
and
ask
if
there's
anyone
here
to
speak
to
the
sister
of
issue.
Mr.
shields,
did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
issue?
Please
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
H
Mark
shields,
31-17
44th,
Evan
I,
want
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
fees
in
general,
not
asking
you
to
change
anything
today,
I
guess.
The
reason
that
would
be
asking
to
speak
today
is
to
not
wait
for
consideration
of
fees
in
the
taxi
business
for
another
year
and
a
half
or
whatever
it
takes
to
consider
all
those
things.
H
The
reason
I'm
speaking,
want
to
speak
in
the
subject
generally,
as
opposed
to
a
poster
against
is
the
taxi
business.
I
guess
I
assume
is
not
paying
its
fair
share
and
I'm
hoping
we
that
could
be
considered
so
that
we
could
get
more
consideration,
and
I
think
we
deserve
that
from
the
standpoint.
The
city
council
in
the
city,
Minneapolis,
has
been
regulating
taxis
since
the
30s
and
they
have
created
our
business
and
by
created
it's
not
that's,
not
accurate,
but
they've
created.
H
H
The
fee
structure,
which
is,
is
not
what
we're
here
for
today
the
problem
is
I'm.
I
worked
for
a
cab
company,
I
worked
for
as
an
employee
in
the
office,
but
I'm
here
speaking
right
for
myself,
I've
been
a
taxi
business
for
30
years.
I've
worked
during
the
Superbowl
I
picked
up
at
moby,
dicks
I've
been
around
a
while
and
and
have
been
an
observer
of.
H
All
most
aspects
are
the
taxi
business
from
a
driver.
I
was
a
cab
owner
and
as
a
manager
of
in
the
taxi
business,
for
two
different
companies
now,
but
the
we
only
the
fees
we
provide
their
only
in
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
range,
but
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
get
maybe
more
consideration
than
that.
That's
it.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
for
being
here
today
I'll.
Let
you
know
that
the
two
people
dealing
with
cabs
the
most
are
councilmember
fry
and
more
sami
so
hearing
your
comments
is
probably
a
good
thing.
They've
been
most
active
of
the
new
council
members
and
working
on
taxi
cab
issues.
So
to
hear
your
comments
was
good,
so
thank
you
for
being
here
today
kidding.
A
A
H
A
E
F
Thank
you
very
chair
fry.
The
Minnesota
Department
of
Revenue
did
notify
us
and
send
us
a
notice
of
license,
revocation
requirement
for
a
company
that
holds
a
heating
air
conditioning
and
ventilating
licensed
by
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
The
company
is
called
all
cleaning
applications
we,
as
required
by
the
statutes.
In
this
regard,
we
send
certified
notification
to
all
cleaning
applications
company
and
advise
them
of
today's
hearing.
We
sent
that
certified
mail.
It
did
get
returned
to
us
unopened
and
undelivered.
F
However,
we
did
verify
that
the
address
provided
to
us
by
the
company
in
their
most
recent
application
was
of
that
one
that
that
we
mailed
it
to
that
said,
we
are
required
upon
receipt
of
a
license
of
license,
revocation
for
debt
to
revoke
all
licenses
within
30
days
held
by
that
company.
They
hold
only
the
one,
the
heating,
AC
and
ventilating
license
at
this
time.
E
Seeing
none
I
will
go
very
quickly,
make
a
statement
regarding
what
is
allowed
and
what
is
not
allowed.
Regarding
testimony
this
is
a
public
hearing.
It's
a
quasi
judicial
hearing,
of
which
only
the
owner
end
or
the
owner
representative
may
testify,
and
only
the
facts
that
have
previously
been
presented
at
a
previous
hearing
may
be
recounted
items
of
clarification
made
to
be
delivered.
However,
the
City
Council
may
not
may
not
undergo
any
additional
fact-finding.
E
Seeing
that
I've
read
that
statement
is
an
owner
or
the
owners
representatives
here
today
is
the
owner
or
their
representative.
Here
today,
owner
or
representative,
seeing
that
the
owner
and
their
representative
is
not
here
today,
I
will
move
approval
of
the
of
the
decision
to
revoke
by
staff.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
this
item,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no.
On
that
item
passes
chair,
Goodman,
Thank,.
L
Good
morning,
madam
chair
committee,
members
I'm
Emily
Stern
with
cpap
business
development,
but
you
have
before
you
today
is
a
staff
recommendation
to
award
negotiating
rights
or
development
of
a
city-owned
property
located
at
205
park
avenue
south
first
some
background.
The
city
Minneapolis
his
own
205
Park
since
1992,
and
it
was
originally
part
of
the
larger
Milwaukee
railroad
depot
property.
Since
that
time
and
was
substantial
City
assistance,
the
mill
district
has
grown
up
as
a
vibrant,
established
neighborhood
with
a
highly
desirable
residential
retail
and
cultural
options.
L
The
mill
district
is
largely
an
affluent
area
with
median
household
incomes.
Thirty-Two
percent
higher
than
the
citywide
average
median
brent's
in
the
area
are
twenty
five
percent
higher
than
citywide
average.
It's
also
an
area
that
has
seen
some
of
the
highest
residential
sale
prices
in
the
city
more
on
205
Park,
the
top
5
park
property
has
been
a
surface
parking
lot
since
the
city
bought
at
over
two
decades
ago.
Over
the
last
decade,
there
were
two
development
proposals
for
the
site
that
were
not
completed
due
to
a
soph
in
real
estate
market.
L
All
previous
redevelopment
contracts
have
been
terminated
in
April
of
this
year.
The
city
issued
a
request
for
proposals
for
this
property.
The
city
received
proposals
from
two
developers,
Sherman
associates
and
Grand
real
estate
advisors,
a
staff
team
review.
The
proposals
and
today
recommends
awardee
negotiating
rights
to
Sherman
associates
for
six
months.
The
report
more
fully
describes
the
reasons
for
this
recommendation,
but
I'd
like
to
highlight
three
now:
first:
affordable
housing.
L
It
is
the
city's
policy
to
promote
affordable
housing
options
for
low-income
families,
people
of
color
seniors
and
those
with
special
needs
in
neighborhoods
and
communities
throughout
the
city.
In
addition,
as
part
of
a
settlement
agreement
with
the
US
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
to
a
recent
fair
housing
complaint,
the
city
is
reviewing
all
land
use
in
housing
policies,
programs
and
processes
to
determine
whether
they
create
barriers
to
Fair
Housing
Choice.
The
sale
of
city-owned
property
is
subject
to
this
review
to
determine
how
the
city
promotes
economically
and
racially
integrated
housing
options.
L
The
city's
ownership
of
205
park
provides
a
sea
with
a
substantive,
a
significant
opportunity
to
proactively
meet
its
goal
and
its
obligation
to
affirmatively
further
fair
housing
by
ensuring
that
affordable
housing
is
produced
in
a
high
income
amenity.
Rich
area
of
the
city.
Sherman's
project
meets
the
city's
affordable
housing
goals
by
committing
to
the
inclusion,
without
public
subsidy
of
twenty
percent
of
the
unit's
affordable
to
households
with
incomes
at
or
below
sixty
percent
of
area
median
income.
So
this
will
be.
L
There
will
be
of
the
150
units
apartment
units
that
they're
proposing
23
of
those
units.
Twenty
percent
will
be
affordable
to
two
households
with
incomes
at
or
below,
sixty
percent
of
area
median
income,
and
these
will
be
units
actually
larger
than
the
than
the
average
for
the
for
the
entire
building.
The
average
apartment
unit
size
will
be
about
eight
hundred
twenty
square
feet.
L
Second,
retail,
the
city's
development
goals
for
the
site,
as
described
with
the
rft
call
for
maximizing
ground-floor
retail
and
including
retail
I,
both
corners
a
park
in
Washington
in
park
and
second
street
Sherman's
proposal,
accomplishes
the
subjective
with
approximately
sixty
three
hundred
square
feet
of
retail
space.
One
space
would
be
a
bakery
and
the
other
would
be
a
restaurant
that
serves
breakfast
filling
in
a
retail
niche
luck
lacking
in
the
neighborhood
currently
established.
Minneapolis,
restaurant
or
kim
Bartman
has
provided
letters
of
support
to
operate
both
the
restaurant
and
the
bakery.
L
Grand
real
estate
presented
two
scenarios:
145
story,
development
with
land
purchase,
price
of
approximately
1.5
million
or
forty
three
dollars
per
square
foot
and
another
for
a
six
story:
development
with
a
purchase
price
of
about
1.9
million
dollars
or
53
dollars
per
square
foot
staff
favors
the
Sherman,
the
Sherman
purchase
prices.
It
is
approximately
double
what
grand
real
estate
offered
for
its
five-story
scenario
in
about
1.7
times.
More
than
grand
real
estate's
offer
for
the
six
stories
scenario,
Sherman's
price
also
more
closely
reflects
the
mark.
L
The
fair
market
value
for
this
property
is
indicated
by
an
appraisal.
Grand
real
estate's
highest
offer
price
is
significantly
lower
than
the
appraised
value
and
the
RFP
explicitly
states.
The
city
will
not
sell
the
parcel
for
less
than
the
fair
market
value
for
those
reasons
and
for
others
described
more
fully
in
the
report,
staff
recommends
that
Sherman
associates
be
granted
exclusive
negotiating
rights
to
205
Park
for
up
to
six
months.
L
City
staff,
representatives
of
Sherman
associates
would
negotiate
the
terms
of
the
sale
and
development
of
the
property
and
f
would
return
with
a
term
sheet
to
City
Council
for
consideration
within
the
six-month
period.
If
the
exclusive
negotiating
rights
period
with
Sherman
expires
without
a
city
council,
approved
term
sheet
and
staff
is
requesting
Council
authorization
to
negotiate
with
grand
real
estate
advisors
to
see
if
the
deal
can
be
structured
within
six
months.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention
now,
I
and
other
sheep
have
leadership
in
the
room
would
be
happy
to
answer.
L
A
L
L
A
And
then
I'm
also
interested
in
what
staff
has
calculated
the
developers
cost
to
add
the
affordable
at
their
own
expense.
I
know
we
could
probably
calculate
what
we
would
think
it
would
be
so
do
we
have
a
number
that
would
most
adequately
a
flat
reflect
what
their
cost
is
to
subsidize
the
units
at
sixty
percent
for
20
or
15
years,
Andrew.
M
Madam
chair
George,
Herman,
Ruth
Sherman,
so
shi'ites.
The
one
way
to
calculate
it
is
the
difference
between
the
rents
of
the
affordable
and
the
rents
of
the
market
rate,
we're
basically
using
the
rents
of
the
market
rate
to
subsidize
the
rents
of
the
Affordable.
The
difference
in
rents
are
about
a
red
round,
eight
hundred
to
a
thousand
dollars
a
month
on
a
capitalization
rate
that
would
be
somewhere
around
150
to
200
thousand
dollars
per
unit.
M
Now
again,
this
is
being
subsidized
by
the
market
rate
units,
and
so
you
know
it
gets
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
mix
not
a
specific,
but
without
the
use
of
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits
or
kif
or
other
gap
funds.
It's
about
125,
150
thousand
dollars
per
affordable
housing
unit
for
23
units
said
to
be
about
three
to
four
million
dollars,
but.
A
M
M
Us
we're
putting
in
you
know
real
cash,
four
or
five
million
of
real
cash,
not
syndicating.
This
there's
no
tax
credits,
so
there's
no
outside
money
coming
into
the
project.
We
are
you
know
by
doing
it,
what
we
are
doing
is
lowering
we're
using
the
market
rate
rents
the
subsets
affordable,
hence,
were
giving
up
what
we're
giving
up
some
value
of
the
project
by
doing
it,
that
value
is
about
three
to
four
million
dollars
over.
M
J
J
You
know
development
around
businesses
and,
specifically
you
know
the
Midtown
farmers
market,
which
is
a
project
we've
been
working
on
for
a
long
time.
I'm
just
really
thrilled
to
see
this
move
forward.
I
think
it's
great
to
have
affordable
housing
and
more
accessibility
to
to
the
housing
in
the
mill
district
area.
I'm
excited
to
hear
about
the
mix
between
the
retail
on
the
first
floor
and
the
housing
up
above.
J
That's
a
mix
that
we
always
strive
for
in
the
Ninth
Ward
to
keep
our
commercial
corridors
alive
and
well
because
we
know
that's
one
of
the
primary
ways
that
we
can
address
crime
and
safety
in
the
neighborhood
is
by
having
busy
streets
with
people
shopping
and
building
community
and
coming
out
to
restaurants
and
concerts,
so
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this
project.
I
think
it
makes
sense,
I
think
it's
smart.
It's
also
really
unique
and
I'm
excited
to
see
what
this
is
going
to
do
in.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
things
as
I
was
evaluating
this
conversation,
where
there
were
going
to
be
looking
at
the
two
options
that
were
presented.
First
of
all,
I'm
excited
that
the
RFP
was
offered
and
I
think
it
was
a
good
fit
for
the
city
as
we
try
to
advance
our
affordable
housing
holes
to
include
that
as
a
requirement
in
RFP
as
a
preference.
K
Anyway,
as
the
chair
of
the
ways
means
committee,
I'm,
naturally
very
excited
that
there
isn't
a
subsidy
attached
to
this
and
there's
a
couple
of
ways
to
look
at
the
word
subsidy.
What
are
we?
What
are
we
trying
to
achieve,
and
is
it
worth
that
investment
we
could
have
done
this
in
in
other
areas,
as
mr.
Sherman
alluded
to,
we
could
have
probably
made
some
justification
for
a
tiff
investment.
I,
don't
know
if
there's.
K
Have
done
that
I
was,
I
was
talking
in
more
general
terms
when
we're
looking
at
tiff
we're
trying
to
do
something
for
affordable
housing,
we're
trying
to
do
something
about
blight
and
we're
trying
to
do
something
about
historical
preservation.
This
particular
parcel
does
not
certainly
meet
those
criteria,
but
in
general,
as
we
talk
about
subsidy,
a
tiff
is
an
investment
on
the
city
to
achieve
one
of
those
up
big
goals
not
needed
in
this
area.
K
So
we
appreciate
that
other
ways
to
look
at
subsidy
is
what
we're
getting
for
the
value
of
this
property
and
I
think
it
would
be
irresponsible
for
us
to
look
at
it
from
a
financial
perspective
perspective
of
looking
at
two
different
value
offered
and
not
consider
the
lesser
of
those
values
to
be
a
subsidy
to
achieve
it.
A
development
objective
so
in
with
those
of
main
objectives,
I
want
honest,
also
point
out:
why
favored
this
particular
proposal
wasn't
just
about
the
finance
financing
or
the
lack
of
a
subsidy.
K
It
was
certainly
about
the
affordable
housing
policy
that
we're
trying
to
always
support.
I
was
excited
about
the
retail
expansion
and
having
both
corners
committed
to
that
with
a
respected
restaurant
or
in
the
city.
I
also
noted
that
there
was
a
dog
park,
I
think
actually
some
sort
of
dog
facility
was
in
both
proposals,
so
I
appreciate
that
I
love
the
look
of
this,
especially
what
I
call
that
the
promenade
section
that
goes
down
towards
the
museum.
K
There's
a
police
substation
in
this
I
wasn't
really
required,
but
it
was
a
tremendous
gesture
and
I
think
that
adds
to
the
public
safety,
or
at
least
the
perception
and
feeling
of
people
feeling
more
confident
in
this
expanding
area.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
that
and
I
think
they've
also
addressed
some
parking
concerns
that
could
come
up
as
we
expand
our
city
and
as
we
trying
to
achieve
our
our
goals,
as
well
as
the
goals
of
the
downtown
council
having
expanded
population
within
downtown.
K
D
You,
madam
chair,
and
I
would
like
to
echo
a
council
member
quincy,
just
said,
and
somebody
who
actually
understands
how
important
the
safety
center
in
Cedar
Riverside
has
played
in
sherman
properties.
I
welcome
the
the
fact
that
we
can
have
a
substation
there
and
also
somebody
who
actually
is
advocating
for
more
market-rate
properties
in
his
world
that
this
you
know
the
fact
that
it
has
market
rate
as
well
as
a
low.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
move
approval
of
the
staff
recommendations.
I
want
to
make
a
couple
and
said
all
done
call
on
councilmember
fry
for
last
word:
it's
not
acceptable
to
I,
probably
wouldn't
have
put
this
property
on
the
market
and
the
whole
time
I
was
on
the
council.
I
didn't
mainly
because
I
had
this
pilot
project
going
with
greening
and
an
area
for
pet
relief
and
is
the
founder
of
a
nonprofit
that
builds
dog
parks.
A
This
neighborhood
has
woefully
inadequate
areas
for
dogs
and
to
suggest
that
they
go
to
the
commons
is
ridiculous
if
you've
ever
had
an
old
dog
that
has
to
go
to
the
bathroom
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
you're
not
walking
to
the
commons.
Nor
are
you
walking
over
to
gold
medal
park,
so
I
probably
would
have
focused
on
dogs,
unlike
others,
who
focus
on
people.
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there,
but
now
that
we
have
had
we've
been
able
to
see
what
the
market
has
brought
forward.
A
We
have
two
proposals
in
front
of
us,
ironically,
boat
by
both
developers,
who
had
also
had
exclusive
development
rights
over
the
site
over
a
period
of
time.
Both
miss
Lucas
and
mr.
Sherman
had
development
rights
over
this
parcel
during
some
tougher
times
in
our
city.
So
I
think
it's
interesting
that
both
of
them
were
the
two
that
responded.
A
I
think
it's
very
important
to
note
that
when
we
own
property,
we
have
a
higher
level
responsibility
by
both
the
federal
and
state
government
to
ensure
fair
housing
and
council
member
fries
suggestion
that
we
put
into
the
RFP
explicitly
that
affordable
housing
be
built
on
that
site
was
born
from
a
HUD
complaint,
suggesting
that
we
don't
do
enough
of
that.
I'll
also
note
that
my
neighborhood
and
council
mikanos
neighborhoods,
have
have
had
a
number
of
situations
where
the
staff
recommendation
and
the
council
voted
against
what
the
neighborhood
wanted.
A
I'll
just
note
that
probably
the
biggest
drama
in
my
entire
tenure
on
the
council,
South
West
LRT,
is
being
shoved
down
the
throats
of
my
constituents,
who
vehemently
oppose
it
and
councilmember
Cano
I,
don't
want
to
incite
a
drama
here
is
dealing
with
the
transfer
station
and
a
Public
Works
facility
in
her
ward
were
her
constituents
who,
arguably
have
been
impacted,
are
now
going
to
be.
Are
now
don't
like
what
the
staff
has
recommended
and
are
going
to
be
trying
to
make
a
Public
Works
facility
in
their
neighborhood,
something
that's
better.
A
So,
ultimately,
we
do
have
to
make
decisions
based
on
broader
decisions
about
what's
happening
around
us,
despite
the
fact
that
neighbors
would
prefer
something
else,
in
my
case,
transportation
and
councilmember
canos
case
environmental
concerns
and,
in
this
particular
case
not
subsidizing
development
in
an
affluent
part
of
town
and
adding
affordable
housing
that
doesn't
cost
these
same
exact
constituents
any
money.
So
I
am
hopeful
that
they
can
pull
this
together
quickly,
because,
if
not,
then
my
dog
area
stays
in
place.
A
The
surface
parking
that's
much
needed
remains
in
that
location
or
grand
partners
can
offer
market
rate
and
move
forward
with
their
condo
deal.
But
I
do
think
that
we
have
the
responsibility
based
on
the
accusations
that
have
been
made
against
a
city
that
has
done
more
for
affordable
housing
than
any
other
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
to
walk
the
talk
on
affordable
housing
and
I
think
we
have
no
choice
but
to
do
that
and
I
think
the
staffs
recommendation
is
strong,
councilmember
Frey
thank.
E
You
madam
chair
first
I,
would
like
to
thank
both
development
companies
Sherman
and
associates,
as
well
as
grand
Peggy,
Lucas
and
Tanya
Bell
in
particular.
I
know
that
Peggy
Lucas
has
done
a
ton
for
the
neighborhood
and
she
was
a
pioneer
from
the
very
beginning
in
in
establishing
several
of
these
buildings
along
the
riverfront
men
doubtedly.
It
had
a
gigantic
impact
really
up
till
today,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
Sherman
associates
for
putting
together
a
beautiful
proposal.
E
Both
proposals
I,
in
my
opinion,
were
more
impressive
and
then
I
free
finally
appreciates
staffs
work
and
ultimately
making
a
determination
in
coming
up
with
a
staff
report.
I
know
it
was
a
long
and
in
some
cases,
arduous
process.
So
you
know,
as
it
was
requested
by
the
neighborhood
association.
I
did
go
and
talk
to
my
colleagues
several
of
them
about
this
matter,
and
inevitably
we
ran
into
the
same
two
issues
every
single
time.
E
The
first
was
unanimously
every
single
one
of
them
liked
the
recommended
proposal
and
would
have
been
thrilled
to
have
it
in
their
ward,
with
the
retail
component,
extensive
retail,
the
public
dog
park,
the
police
substation,
as
well
as
the
mixed
income.
By
the
way.
Eighty
percent
of
this
particular
development
is
market
rate.
E
Subsidizing
the
development
on
a
particular
parcel
and
one
of
the
in
a
very
wealthy
area
of
town.
It
didn't
work
and
so
I
do
understand
and
respect
the
value
of
owner-occupied
and
the
sentiment
of
the
neighborhood
in
this
particular
area
it
does.
It
does
contribute
to
some
subdue
stability
as
well
as
more
people
that
are
attending
neighborhood
associations.
That's
undoubtedly
the
truth,
and
we
do
have
a
very
large
owner-occupied
development.
In
fact,
it's
about
370
units,
seven
times
the
number
that
we're
talking
about
in
this
particular
proposal.
It's
going
just
a
couple.
E
A
couple
of
blocks
away
now,
while
I
value
the
owner
occupied
I,
do
think
that
the
people
ultimately
living
in
the
proposal
that
is
constructed
will
also
contribute
to
the
community
may
be
in
different
in
different
ways.
They
may
not
attend
neighborhood
associations
as
much
as
those
who
live
across
the
street,
but
I
do
think
they
could
be
genuine
partners
and
furthering
the
vision
for
the
neighborhood.
E
So
with
that,
I
firmly
believe
that
if,
if
the
sherman
associates
proposal
is
chosen,
that
I
can
engage
the
neighborhood
to
improve
it
in
a
way
that
tackles
several
of
the
concerns
addressed
and
I
am
confident
that
we
can
work
together
to
arrive
at
a
really
beautiful
vision.
So
I
know
there
are
many
that
will
be
they're,
not
thrilled
with
this
decision
and
I
really
respect
their
opinions
on
this
and
I
did
talk
to
my
colleagues.
But
there
were
a
couple
of
roadblocks.