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Resolutions,
2018,
244
and
2018
246
will
be
coming
forward
this
evening
from
the
admin
and
Finance
Committee.
Is
there
a
motion,
so
move
been
moved?
Is
there
a
second
second
been
moved
and
seconded?
Is
there
any
discussion
on
approval
of
the
agenda,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
those
opposed
abstentions.
The
motion
carries.
Is
there
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
our
minutes
online?
So
there
are
no
minutes
this
evening.
Thank
you.
Then
we
will
move
into
reports
of
officers,
superin,
superintendent,
Marilyn.
C
C
More
than
500
minneapolis
public
school
fourth
graders
enrolled
in
summer
school
and
my
visiting
Eloise
Butler
wild
flower
garden
for
our
full
day
of
nature,
immersion
and
study
this
summer,
participants
are
learning
about
bird
and
plant
adaptations
to
a
variety
of
engaging
activities
with
the
wild
flower
garden
staff.
So
we're
excited
that
the
school
board
through
the
summer
school
is
it's
taking
full
advantage
of
the
starik
Eloise
Butler,
wildflower
garden,
the
Minnesota
nursery
and
landscaping
sociation,
and
the
Minnesota
chapter
of
the
American
Society
of
landscape.
Architects
are
hosting
their
annual
summer
landscape
design.
C
Tour
on
August
8th.
If
anybody's
interested,
the
tour
will
highlight
six
locations,
including
the
award-winning
wetland
boardwalk
at
Eloise,
Butler,
wild
flower
garden
and
bird
sanctuary.
That's
the
place
to
be
this
summer.
Now
the
newly
recreated
halls
Island
reservations
are
being
taken
through
August
6th
on
the
MN
array
website.
So
please
try
to
get
into
that.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
pretty
exciting.
C
The
pollinators
party,
a
celebration
of
bees
was
held
on
Thursday
July
26th
at
the
lyndale
park,
gardens
more
than
400
attendees
came
out
to
learn
about
wild
bees.
Honeybees
and
habitats
makes
them
art
dance
with
be
loved
and
enjoy
the
music
and
the
honey
ice
cream.
So
this
year's
heard
of
Gert
our
happily
munching
away
at
the
invasive
species
at
dinner
worth
Park.
Last
week
the
goats
moved
a
lot
from
the
south
end
of
the
park
to
the
far
northwest
portion
of
the
park
near
Twin,
Lake
and
worth
golf
course.
C
A
lot
is
happening,
a
getting
ready
for
fall
sports.
The
park
board
has
introduced
a
new
flag
football
program
option
for
six,
you
and
eight
you
age
groups,
and
you
can
check
out
your
local
rec
center.
If
you
want
to
get
involved
in
that
there
are
coaches
meetings
occuring,
both
from
the
standpoint
of
getting
ready
for
the
fall
for
the
our
youth
programs
and
then
also
for
our
adult
programs.
C
Safety
camp
enjoyed
over
a
hundred
and
thirty
swimmers
who
participated
in
the
water
day
hosted
by
aquatics
and
recreation.
Campers
took
part
in
a
mini
swim
lesson:
gigantic
learn
blow
up
water
obstacle
course
and
water
classes,
and
we
all
know
that
safety
camp
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
our
young
people
to
get
introduced
to
our
firefighters
and
our
police
officers
on
a
first
and
a
very
close
and
personal
way.
C
C
Dinner
with
families,
but
the
officers
in
return
who
have
been
there,
their
camp
leaders
all
week
long
in
their
uniforms,
and
so
it's
amazing
the
what
how
the
children
react
and
the
relationships
that
are
built
through
the
safety
camp
summer.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
a
schedule
and
to
come
forward
from
KP
companies
to
update
us
on
the
superintendent
search.
C
F
Good
evening,
commissioners,
superintendent
things
are
well
underway
in
terms
of
the
search
we
opened,
the
applications
on
July
12th.
We
are
starting
to
get
quite
a
few
applications
in
which
is
really
encouraging.
Our
firm
has
already
started
some
initial
screenings,
as
it
relates
to
just
general
qualifications.
We
are
also
starting
some
of
the
search
activities,
but
really
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
go
into
the
listening
process
and
complete
that
process
prior
to
really
making
some
decisions.
F
F
G
F
G
F
Haven't
been
set
on
that
yet,
but
similar
to
what
we've
done
in
other
high-level
searches
we'll
do
that
same
kind
of
meet-and-greet
with
the
top
three
candidates
make
sure
employees
are
comfortable
with
them.
Certainly
kind
of
take
a
look
at
those
interactions
and
then
reconvene
after
that:
okay,
lovely
and.
F
H
H
F
Point
it's
too
early
to
tell
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
have
to
push
out
most
of
those
days,
because
some
of
this
stuff
can
be
done
in
tandem
right.
So,
if
you
look
at
applications,
for
example,
who
come
in
and
who
are
not
qualified,
those
are
things
that
we
can
kind
of
take
care
of
right
away
right.
We
know
that
they
don't
meet,
you
know
80
or
90%
of
the
criteria.
Those
are
things
that
we
can
start
to
address
immediately.
F
What
we
are
waiting
on
in
terms
of
completing
or
listening
sessions
are
for
those
candidates
who
really
have
experience
that
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
all
voices
and
before
before,
making
those
decisions
so
a
lot
of
its
in
tandem
I.
Don't
at
this
point
we're
not
pushing
out
other
dates.
Okay
and.
H
B
F
B
F
B
B
J
B
Thank
you.
The
motion
has
been
moved.
Is
there
a
second?
Second,
it's
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moved
and
seconded.
Is
there
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a
motion,
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moved?
Is
there
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M
So
we
are
beginning
the
budget
process
for
the
euro.
As
you
all
well
know,
I
was
able
to
stand
in
front
of
you
and
talk
a
little
bit
at
the
budget
retreats
about
how
the
CIP
process
works.
The
capital
improvement
program,
process
works
and
I'd
like
to
do
tonight
is
discuss
a
couple
of
different
items
related
to
that,
as
we
begin
to
craft
that
six-year
CIP
tonight,
just
sort
of
do
a
recap
about
the
CIP
process
and
its
format.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
funding
sources.
M
Basically,
what
money
is
going
to
be
available
to
us
for
capital
improvements?
I
had
some
notes
and
some
general
recommendations
from
stuff
on
the
CIP
and
then
I'll
reveal
the
new
equity
metrics
and
rankings
for
2018.
So
those
will
be
passed
out
to
you
in
a
few
moments,
then,
obviously
the
opportunity
to
discuss
those
metrics
and
have
any
questions
and
then
lastly,
perhaps
the
more
lengthy
portion
of
this
is
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
sort
of
third
leg.
M
I
guess,
if,
if
you
will
of
the
metrics
stool,
we
do
have
metrics
for
networks
that
are
built.
We
have
metrics
for
original
works.
We
do
not
have
metrics
for
those
undeveloped
parks
in
our
system,
but
we
think
it
might
be
important
to
do
so.
So
I
want
to
raise
some
ideas
before
the
board
tonight
on
that
topic.
So
we
have
a
six-year
capital
improvement
program
here
at
the
board
board.
M
The
reason
we
do
that
is
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
extra
year
on
the
end
so
that
we
can
integrate
with
the
city's
own
capital
long
range
improvement
committee
process,
which
starts
much
earlier
than
we
do
so.
The
sixth
er
gives
guidance
for
when
I'm
doing
those
submittals
next
year.
The
guidance
for
the
capital
improvement
program
itself
really
comes
from
the
comprehensive
plan.
M
It
comes
from
our
criteria
based
system
for
project
scheduling,
which
is
also
known
as
the
equity
metric,
the
strategic
directions
that
you've
set
forward
and
then
also
the
regional
part
and
master
plans
that
are
currently
underway
this
year.
Cip
is
going
to
look
similar
to
last
year's
I.
Think
many
of
you
have
seen
it.
It
does
have
color
coding
to
really
talk
about,
or
does
a
project
come
into
the
CIP,
whether
it
was
sort
of
there
before
our
equity
metrics
or
whether
it's
coming
in
as
a
result
of
the
equity
metrics
and
again
with
rear.
M
We
have
less,
yellow
and
more
blue
as
we
phase
out
the
old
way
of
doing
the
CIP
and
bring
in
the
new.
We
always
do
show
changes
in
separate
columns.
So
essentially
the
the
CIP
includes
an
active
red
lining.
So
we'll
show
you
what
was
there
last
year
and
that
was
adapted
and
then
what
we
proposed
for
this
year.
Some
cases
it's
the
same,
but
when
it's
not,
then
you
can
see
those
differences
and
we
did
a
separate
sections
of
the
CIP
for
the
neighborhood
and
the
regional
other
projects
and
then
the
rehabilitation
program.
M
The
schedule,
one
is
in
side
that
says
2017,
but
actually
in
2018,
a
staff
workgroup
and
myself
have
done
convening
to
update
the
neighborhood
metrics
and
to
develop
the
undeveloped
work.
Internal
metrics,
August,
1st,
which
is
tonight
is,
will
have
an
initial
discussion
about
the
CIP
and
those
metrics
during
September,
primarily
as
one
I.
Largely
prepare
the
Biggles
bed
sheets
that
gets
included
with
the
superintendence
budget.
Should
the
board
think
that
it
appropriate
to
consider
some
kind
of
ordinance
modification
or
a
new
ordinance
for
undeveloped
works?
M
So
this
spreadsheet,
on
the
screen
right
now
shows
where
funding
sources
currently
lie
under
actually
skip
down
and
talk
about
the
neighborhood
sources
first,
because
they
are
more
straightforward,
gonna
be
between
brings
10.5
million
dollars
per
year
in
the
most
of
this
chart
is
when
there
is
a
possible
increase
based
on
sort
of
real-world
inflationary
considerations.
We
don't
know
what
that
will
be,
or
if
that
will
be
so
I
have
just
kept
the
numbers
stable.
We
also
put
2.18
million
dollars.
M
Our
capital
levy
into
capital
projects,
the
port
dedication,
is
really
kind
of
to
be
determined
as
we
craft
the
CIP
I'm,
always
looking
for
work.
Dedication,
that's
coming
in
and
trying
to
allocate
those
two
projects
based
on
neighborhood
guidance
and
based
on
what
other
projects
we
have
going
on
in
the
CIP
Minnesota
state
bonding
development
exactly
what
year
this
is
happening,
but
we'll
we
will
get
about
a
six
million
dollar
match
as
a
portion
of
the
upper
harbour
terminal
collaboration
that
we
got
with
the
with
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
M
O
L
M
The
funding
which
really
skews
my
spreadsheets
I
have
to
say
to
have
an
order
in
there,
but
essentially
what
has
happened
is
if
you
remember
from
our
legislative
session.
Last
year,
the
state
did
Bend
at
a
ten
million
dollar
level,
which
is
great,
that's
excellent
for
the
regional
parks.
They
did
so
not
with
general
obligation,
dense
pants,
but
instead
with
environmental
Natural,
Resources
trust
fund
plans,
the
Met
Council
still
has
not
determined
whether
they
can
or
will
match
those
bonds
with
Met
Council
bonds,
as
they
normally
do.
M
If
they
do
match
those
bonds,
our
share
will
be
3.4
million
dollars
of
that
10
million
of
that
10
million
plus
the
match.
If
they
do
not
match
the
buttons,
it
will
be
2
million.
So
you
can
see,
there's
a
significant
difference
for
us
if
the
Met
Council
chooses
not
or
is
unable
to
match
those
bonds.
So
that's
kind
of
an
odd
know
that
I
have
to
carry
through
at
this
moment,
because
that
determination
has
not
been
made.
M
We
hope
that
that's
coming
soon
flex
and
trans
legacy
the
total
19
money
we
knew
about
in
2020
and
2021.
The
number
is
actually
quite
a
fair
bit
higher
than
it
has
been
in
the
past.
It's
approximately
a
million
dollars
more
for
each
of
those
years
than
we
have
estimated
in
the
past.
That
is
primarily
the
result
of
two
things.
M
The
economy
is
really
good,
so
sales
tax
receipts
are
good
and
that's
what
funds
this
program
and
secondly,
the
regional
per
visitor
counts
have
just
been
have
just
come
in
for
the
year
and
we've
seen
significant
increases
in
our
visitorship
as
a
system.
Just
by
way
of
example,
the
Chain
of
Lakes
went
from
five
million
visits
up
to
seven
million
visits
over
the
course
of
that
year.
That
is
a
four
year
average.
That's
taken,
so
we're
not
even
just
talking
about
it's
a
single
year.
Trembler
is
a
single
year.
M
It's
actually
a
trend
line
that
is
exhibiting
significant
increase
in
use
of
our
park
system,
in
particular
compared
to
other
regional
park
systems.
So
that's
that's
a
double-edged
sword
right.
It
means
we
get
more
funds
to
support
these
parks,
but
it
also
means
our
more
people
in
the
parks
who
are
enjoying
them,
which
is
wonderful,
but
the
wear
and
tear
is
there
so
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
those
parks
and
trails
are
locations
for
us
have
now
four
million
dollars
for
those
next
two
years.
M
M
We
haven't
been
a
three
point:
two
five
for
some
time:
it's
always
been
higher,
so
I'm
actually
adjusting
our
estimates
upward
to
three
point:
seven:
five
and
we
proposed
building
a
CIP
based
on
that
number,
so
that
I
can
be
more
accurate
when
there's
a
large
gap
between
what
we
proposed
in
the
CIP
and
then
what
I'm
asked
to
submit
I'm
sort
of
going
without
a
policy
parachute
and
I'd
love
to
be
closer
to
that
when
we
present
the
CIP
to
you
in
the
fall.
M
So
that's
why
those
numbers
have
gone
up
a
little
bit
from
the
lottery
in
blue,
which
is
ostensibly
for
major
capital
rehabilitation
and
not
for
new
projects
remains
pretty
stable,
well
stable
at
that
1.3
million
dollars,
I'm
a
few
notes
on
the
CIP
and
how
we
as
staff,
tend
to
craft
the
CIP.
Obviously,
barring
additional
evidence
from
you,
we
feel
the
projects
that
are
already
in
the
CIP
shouldn't
be
altered.
If
at
all
possible,
we
really
try
to
keep
that
promise
to
the
community,
regardless
of
where
that
folks
equity
score
sends
them.
M
N
M
Community
members
and
for
our
lenders
to
get
ahead
of
like
these
projects
that
are
coming
down,
the
pike
typically
place
the
new
perks
that
come
in
to
the
that
get
their
scores
to
the
level
where
they
can
come
into
the
CIP.
We
put
those
projects
at
the
outmost
year.
Otherwise,
if
we
put
them
in
interviews,
we
would
delay
projects
that
are
already
in
the
CIP,
so
essentially
we're
always
trying
to
build
that
up
more
skier.
O
M
M
Our
intent
is
to
work
through
all
the
perks
and
then
come
back
around
to
the
top
parks
again,
rather
than
continuing
to
invest
in
some
of
the
same
parks
over
and
over
again.
So
this
is
a
really
prioritization
effort.
It
gets
to
the
parks
with
the
greatest
need.
First,
so,
under
the
under
air
ordinance
and
pRb
staff,
we
have
convened
a
staff
group
to
reevaluate
the
overall
neighborhood
equity
metrics.
So
we
take
a
look.
This
is
true
for
regional.
We
take
a
look
at
each
one
and.
M
M
Cip,
which
is
starting
really
now
those
rankings
I
worked
in,
so
we
don't
sort
of
change
from
week
to
week
or
month
to
month.
Otherwise,
we'd
never
be
able
to
build
a
CIP
around
that.
So
there
comes
a
time
where
we
lock
in
those
rankings,
and
then
another
reevaluation
occurs
in
the
summer
of
2019.
So
in
a
few
moments,
we're
going
to
pass
around
those
equity
rankings
to
you
and
to
the
audience
here
and
there
will
be
available
online,
probably
starting
tomorrow.
We
consider
those
to
be
the
draft
equity
rankings.
M
M
You
staff
has
found
again
that
the
metrics
do
work
well,
and
we
don't
believe
that
there
should
be
any
substantive
changes
to
the
ordinance.
In
order
to
how
the
metrics
are
calculated.
You
will
see
that
few
parks
very
few
parks
moved
significantly
up
or
down
in
ranking
last
year
from
last
year
to
the
previous.
M
There
are
actually
quite
a
few
major
moves,
and
this
year
fewer
of
those
and
the
primary
reason
is
that
the
are
caps
or
the
racially
concentrated
areas
of
poverty
changed
less
between
last
year
and
this
year
than
they
did
in
the
preceding
two
years.
So
that
drives
significantly
where
the
PARCC
rankings
sit
and
so
there's
a
little
less
change,
that's
happening.
I
do
have
one.
M
We
discovered
these
are
very
complicated,
spreadsheets
and
so
everyone
snarl
as
we're
tweaking
things
through
we
find
glitches
in
them
and
we
found
one
area
that
was
in
place
last
year.
Under
the
longevity
wait-
and
you
will
see
this
under
the
longevity
wait,
there
was
a
transposition
of
assets
that
should
be
scored,
zero
versus
assets
that
should
be
scored
one.
Now
there.
M
That
are
averaged
within
a
park,
so
it's
averaged
upon
average
and
so
that's
a
fairly
non
substantial
error.
Correcting
this
didn't
create
significant
ranking
changes,
but
we
did
correct
it
this
year
and
so
on.
The
spreadsheet.
You
will
see
quite
a
lot
of
color
where
we
show
changes
up
or
down
in
that
particular
metric
and
the
reason
why
is
because
of
that
transposition
of
that
one
at
one
point,
the
next
thing
I
was
going
to
do
is
handle
other
things.
B
Mr.
Roberts
and
the
open
time
will
start
in
just
about
two
minutes.
We
have
nine
speakers
signed
up
for
open
time,
I'll
just
kind
of
go
over
a
guideline
of
what
our
what
a
requests
and
expectations
are
during
open
time.
We
do
our
community
comment
section
at
5:30
at
every
one
of
our
at
every
one
of
our
meetings
and
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
Minneapolis
Park
Board
of
Commissioners
to
hear
from
community
members
on
any
topic.
We
don't.
B
The
Park
Board
of
Commissioners
does
not
to
beat
with
folks
that
are
coming
forward
to
give
testimony,
but
we're
here
to
listen.
We
just
have
a
couple.
So
thank
you
for
folks
that
have
come
out
tonight.
Any
any
individuals
that
do
wish
to
speak
can
do
so
by
calling
in
before
three
o'clock
and
get
put
on
our
speakers
list.
B
Our
open
comment
on
our
agenda
does
not
exceed
15
minutes
with
our
the
time
to
be
allocated
by
the
president.
I
will
give
everybody
I.
Think
90
seconds
comes
pretty
close
to
comes
pretty
close
to
our
15-minute
time
during
open
time,
public
testimony
is
given
without
debate
again.
The
commissioners
may
ask
a
clarifying
question,
but
we
don't
judge
the
comments
that
you're
giving
if
anybody
has
signs
or
anything
that
they'd
like
to
display.
B
So
if
you're
here
and
you
have
comments
or
concerns
around
either
of
those,
your
best
way
to
bring
those
forward
is
to
commissioners
directly.
So
we
just
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
items
that
we
do
have
to
keep
that
we
do
have
to
keep
confidential.
The
park
board
doesn't
tolerate
discriminatory
and/or
harassing
words
directed
at
anyone.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind
when
you
are
making
your
comments
that
gets
me
to
5:30
on
the
dot
by
the
time
miss
freed
makes
it
to
the
microphone.
B
S
Arlene
freed
1109,
xerxes,
Avenue,
South
and
I
start
off
by
saying
many
of
you
know
me
associated
with
Park
Watch.
However,
back
in
1987
I
was
a
blog
member
of
elect
the
group
that
1987
led
the
effort
to
pass
the
shoreline
height
ordinance.
It
was
an
effort
to
spend
two
years
and
costs.
Many
people
do
not
know
this,
but
it
cost
the
city
or
$200,000
for
reimbursement
of
the
citizens,
legal
fees.
There
was
litigation
commissioners,
preserving
our
natural
resources
in
1987
when
developers
proposed
a
try.
S
First,
our
apartment
building
adjacent
to
the
calhoun
beach
club
and
across
the
street
from
Lake
Calhoun
concerns
concerned
citizens
throughout
the
city.
Let
their
councilmembers
know
whether
our
lakes
were
to
the
unique
identity
of
Minneapolis.
In
response,
the
City
Council
unanimously
voted
in
1998
to
adopt
the
shoreline
height
ordinance
conforming
to
at
the
time
beyond
our
protections,
19
building
height
within
1,000
feet
of
lakes
over
Carlson
was
a
seventh
Ward
council.
Member
at
the
time
was
the
councilmember
who
led
the
effort
as.
S
S
Really
complete
within
three
minutes,
our
evidence
was
past
have
been
along
late,
which
is
a
commercial
corridor.
Those
of
us
who
successfully
advocated
for
the
shoreline
height
ordinance
would
advise
against
any
significant
revision
of
the
shoreline
or
overlay
district.
The
only
one
to
protect
the
lakes
from
the
appropriate
development
needs
to
establish
and
maintain
clear
guidelines,
so
developers
know
the
rules
early
on
the
lakes
and
parkways
are
our
parks
and
should
be
preserved
and
protected
for
future
generations.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
T
T
It's
not
needed,
it
won't
help
and
it
will
do
harm
to
leave
that
in
and
one
thing
that's
kind
of
crazy
about
the
both
sentence.
There,
a
sentence
and
first
paragraph
under
land
use,
is
that
it's
only
been
that
it's
really
the
similarity
exceeding
the
earth
at
the
fact
that
the
city
is
exceeding
the
ordinance
ordinance
suggest
it's
planned
obsolescence.
The
city
can't
just
get
rid
of
the
shortened
overly
because
it's
it's
it's
state
mandated.
T
You
know
you
have
to
follow
the
state
pollution
or
environmental
wealth,
but
as
I
mentioned
in
the
lakes,
if
you,
if
you
start
changing
the
shoreline
and
it's
not
your
Korean,
that
was
mentioned
in
an
email
or
that
it's
just
not
true,
you
can't
change
at
all,
because
the
city
is
breaking
it
because
people
are
breaking
it
or
do
yoga.
The
city
is
is
willing
to
change
this
just
because
of
the
city's
a
lot
of
the
changes
because
of
the
city's
density
growth.
T
That's
not
your
job
Eurasian
is
to
permanently
preserve,
protect,
maintain,
improve
and
enhance
the
natural
resources,
Oakland
and
recreational
opportunities
for
current
and
future
generations.
It's
not
to
help
the
city
reach
density,
girls,
it's
not
to
sacrifice
our
natural
resources
for
the
current
leadership
ideological
parities,
and
I
really
ask
that,
if
you're
going
to
do
anything
like
this,
you
don't
do
it
today
and
you
instead
establish
a
task
force
or
some
kind
of
group.
This
doesn't
need
to
be
in
the
letter.
So
please
get
public
input
about
this
before
you.
B
D
Sigma
vigorously
opposes
this
language
because
it
would
weaken
the
protections
for
our
precious
lakes
and
creeks
and
rivers
that
we
all
fought
so
hard
to
pass
a
number
of
years
ago
of
height
and
setback
rules
is
that
they
are
clear
now.
Anyone
at
the
main
and
nothing
else
by
contrast,
performance
based
criteria,
are
indeterminate
concepts
that
can
be
debated
and
subverted
by
politics.
D
Perhaps
there
are
roles
for
both
objective
and
subjective
criteria.
Some
people
have
assured
us
that
we
are
misinterpreting
this
proposed
language,
in
that
it
would
strengthen
the
shoreland
overlay
ordinance.
If
so,
then,
the
language
in
its
clarification,
because
then
a
number
of
us
are
misinterpreting
it.
None
in
this
room
is
naive.
We
arm
our
developers
are
hovering
like
birds
of
prey
over
Minneapolis
shoreline
property
eager
to
endure
peláez
and
monetize
it
for
the
benefit
of
the
few,
in
the
expense
of
the
many.
D
B
U
U
Consideration
of
a
projects
overall,
visual
and
environmental
impact,
with
benefits
for
developments
that
improve
water
quality
and
environmental
performance.
I
ask
what
kind
of
benefits
and
for
whom
to
involve
partner
agencies
such
as
the
NPR
B
sounds
too
weak.
You
should
be
more
than
involved
and
recommending
changes
to
the
shoreline
overlay
district
without
public
input
is
on
a
bad
idea.
Npr
B
has
come
so
far
in
solicit
and
considering
public
input
from
the
community.
It
would
be
a
betrayal
to
support
this
kind
of
a
change
to
the
shoreline
overlay
district
without
soliciting
public
input.
B
B
O
O
They
can't
believe
the
green
spaces.
We
have
right
here
in
the
city
which
I
call
our
Emerald
City.
Yes,
we
have
great
theater,
music
schools
and
restaurants.
So
do
a
lot
of
other
cities.
What
makes
us
enviable
is
our
green
space
and
our
water
without
clean
water,
open
vistas
and
green
space.
We
have
nothing,
nothing
special,
not
to
be
dramatic,
but
the
earth
is
literally
on
fire
all
around
us
to
destroy
the
very
qualities
that
put
us
in
the
catbird
seat
would
be
naive
and
short-sighted.
O
In
light
of
the
board's
mission
statement,
we
count
on
you
to
continue
to
champion
and
protect
the
city,
the
state,
the
planet
and
therefore
us
please
protect
the
SI
D
and
strengthen
it.
The
shoreline
currently
in
place
when
forest
is
working.
It's
hardly
draconian.
Thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
and
will
continue
to
do,
for
us,
Thank.
B
P
Over
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
DNR
asked
us
or
asked
the
citizens
of
the
city
to
provide
comments
and
a
and
a
critical
area
plan
for
the
Mississippi
River
and
I
provided
comments
through
the
Great
River
coalition,
and
here
it
is
today.
The
noise
coming
from
cpad
is
asking
you
guys
to
look
somewhere
else.
Regarding
the
shoreline
heights
and
development
issues.
I
have
to
take
a
stand.
The
park
board
has
got
to
take
a
stand.
The
citizens
of
this
community
need
to
take
a
stand.
P
I
just
don't
get
why
they
think
when
they
go
to
cocktail
parties
with
the
developers,
they
believe
that
they
should
rewrite
what
we
have
been
looking
at
in
development
along
the
river
for
the
last
18
years,
I
mean
I
I'm,
happy
with
what
you
guys
are
doing.
I
think
you
know
incrementally
your
formats
to
provide
accessibility
for
the
river
community
to
the
river
I.
Just
don't
understand
why
they
think
they
can
trump
us.
So
I
plead
with
you
guys
to
put
up
a
wall
on
that
issue.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
R
Name
is
Jan
Prescott
and
I've
lived
many
many
years
in
this
neighborhood
at
23:08
Lake
place.
Okay,
I
came
tonight.
I
was
one
of
the
people
involved
with
elect
when
the
shoreline
ordinance
was
passed,
and
then
it
took
a
lot
of
effort,
a
lot
of
volunteer
effort,
raising
money
and
we
raised
$200,000
and
that
took
a
lot
of
work
to
do
that
and
then
life
goes
on
and
then
whoop
it
comes
up
again.
I
think
it
really
should
not
be
changed
at
all.
R
So
the
developers
understand
what
the
line
is,
because
we've
seen
that
before
any
way
that
they
can
get
more
land
to
build
on
around
the
lakes
they'll
make
that
effort,
because
it's
profit,
but
for
those
of
us
who
live
around
here
who
live
in
Minneapolis
area
and
it's
just
not
the
people
to
live
around
there.
It's
everybody
who
uses
it
and
that's
probably
a
lot
of
suburbanite
stew.
We
want
to
maintain
the
beauty
of
the
area
and
the
life.
B
E
Har
ello
w
and
there
was
a
founding
member
alert,
the
emergency
Lakes
environmental
task
coalition
that
was
formed
30
years
ago,
and
the
effort
just
passed
on
height
ordinance.
It
was
an
effort,
that's
been
two
years
and
as
Arlene
stated
across
the
city
over
$200,000
for
reimbursement
of
the
citizens,
legal
fees.
F
R
F
E
B
B
Q
You
I'm
Clara,
Beck,
I,
live
in
Minneapolis
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
all
of
you.
Many
of
the
comments
that
have
been
said
tonight
are
reflected
in
my
own
prepared
comments,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
hit
some
highlights
on
some
things
that
were
not
mentioned,
but
I
do
want
to
underscore
that
my
request
of
all
of
you
is
that
you
will
defend
the
shoreline
overlay
district
as
it
exists.
Q
Think
it's
an
important
question
to
ask
some
of
the
Fisher's
play
roles
and
other
committees
in
the
city
on
the
City,
Planning,
Commission
and
I.
Think
that's
where
we
need
to
start
to
leverage
and
gain
some
strength
about
exercising
and
observing
the
shoreline
and
overlay
ordinance
rather
than
issuing
variances
and
see
ups.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
You
Claire,
it
clears
my
final
speakers
there.
Anybody
who
signed
up
on
the
list,
whose
name
I
did
not
call
all
right
then
with
that
said,
I
will
close
open
time
just
for
the
folks
that
are
here,
you
probably
are
aware
of
this,
but
we
have
a
conversation
scheduled
and
probably
about
15
minutes
as
soon
as
we're
done
with
the
capital
project.
We'll
be
talking
about
this.
So
if
folks
want
to
stick
around
for
that-
and
here
here
are
comments
and
thoughts
on
it
as
well.
So
I
will
go
back
to
Adam
Arvidsson.
E
M
Neighborhood
equity
metrics
sheet
simply
so
that
I
can
help
navigate
how
it's
how
to
read
it.
So
I'm
gonna
zoom
in
a
bit
here,
so
that
people
in
the
audience
can
also
sort
of
follow
along
with.
M
I'm
gonna
go
very
quickly
from
left
to
right.
There's
a
whole
lot
of
columns.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
information
here.
The
most
important
columns
is
the
one
that
says
park.
Name
and
you'll,
see
I've
got
a
lot
of
blue
there
near
the
top
of
the
screen.
The
blue
highlighted
parks
mean
those
that
are
already
in
the
CIP
and
we're
brought
into
the
CIP
under
the
equity
metric.
M
Already
as
you
scroll
down
through
this
list,
you
will
notice
that
there
are
white
parks
just
below
that
grouping,
so
presumably
these
would
be
the
parks
that
would
be
next
in
line
for
entry
into
the
CIP.
The
rank
for
2018
is,
in
the
second
column,
in
green,
in
the
the
greenish
color
and
we
are
showing
for
reference
last
year's
rank
and
then
in
the
far
left
column
it's
change.
M
We
do
show
the
total
score.
Last
year's
total
score
the
neighborhood
and
then
scrolling
to
the
right
are
the
different,
the
seven
different
neighborhood
equity
metrics
that
we
have
so
the
columns
that
are
not
shaded
show
basically,
our
underlying
data
like
what
is
the
threshold,
but
the
scoring,
which
adds
up
to
the
total
or
in
the
blue
columns.
So
this
score
is
right.
Here
is
for
parks
that
are
getting
a
score
under
either
the
our
cap
rule
or
the
see
p50
rule
and
always.
S
M
M
We're
averaging
a
lot
of
assets
of
1s
I
had
the
wrong
score
out
of
seven
you're,
getting
a
very
small
percentage
point
change
just
by
way
of
example.
This
one
right
here
went
from
one
point:
five
to
one
point
two.
So
it's
a
point
three
loss
out
of
twenty
three
total
points,
so
that
is
how
the
neighborhood
metrics
are,
are
scored
and
then
in
the
regional
metrics,
which
is
the
other
sheep
that
has
many
fewer
parks
on
it.
I'm
gonna
bring
those
up
on
screen
to
for
everyone.
M
So
similarly,
we
have
the
list
of
parks
here,
the
two
regional
opportunity
facilities
which
are
not
ranked
because
there
are
essentially
undeveloped
regional
parks
and
get
dedicated
funding
every
year
or
at
the
top,
and
then
the
rankings
begin
after
that
again,
the
blue
ones
are
the
four
that
were
brought
in
last
year.
Under
these
equity
metrics.
You
see
they
remain
this
year,
the
top
four,
and
then
we
have
books
descending
down
below
that.
M
So
that's
how
those
are
read.
I
just
wanted
to
show
a
really
quick
map
here
with
a
comparison
of
the
our
caps
from
last
year
this
year,
other
camps,
as
you
may
know,
that
stands
for
racially
concentrated
area
of
poverty.
There
is
some
discussion
around
what
exactly
the
nomenclature
of
that
should
be.
Our
ordinance
says
our
cap
there's
also
some
terms
of
art
that
used
the
words
ACP
50,
which
stands
for
an
area
of
concentrated
poverty
where
more
than
50%
of
the
population.
M
Our
people
have
cared
so
I
kind
of
heard
those
both
it's
the
same
thing.
It's
a
different
language.
The
ACP
is
an
area
of
concentrated
poverty
and
then
the
POC
50
are
those
neighborhoods
where
the
majority
of
people
are
people
of
color.
So
you
can
see
those
are
those
three.
The
primary
changes
that
you're
seeing
between
2007
and
2008
and
they're,
relatively
minor
in
the
other
caps,
and
not
like
between
2006
and
2016
and
2017,
or
the
other
camps,
actually
increased
fairly
significantly
here,
they've
there's
a
couple
places
where.
M
Shrunk
a
little
bit,
namely
over
in
the
Corcoran
neighborhood,
where
I'm
highlighting
here
also
in
the
Homewood,
is
that
right,
Homewood
neighborhood
by
pharrell
Park
and
then
there's
some
change
a
little
bit
up
by
the
Shingle
Creek
and
then
there's
a
elimination
of
a
major
acp
area
in
Northeast
Minneapolis,
which
has
come
above
that
that
poverty
threshold
and.
M
First,
southern
part
of
the
city
of
our
own
Boston
field
for
some
years
that
have
been
an
area
of
concentrated
poverty
and
it
no
longer
shows
as
such.
So
that's
kind
of
what
the
are
caps
look
like
I'm
gonna,
get
a
moment
to
opportunity
for
questions
about
the
metrics
and
the
CIP
before
they're.
Moving
to
the
undeveloped
parks,
ordinance
I
just
have
one
more
slide,
which
is
that,
as
we
are
doing
an
evaluations
of
the
ordinance
this
year,
the
neighborhood
ordinance.
Specifically,
we
actually
would
recommend
one
relatively.
R
M
Neighborhoods
would
file
into
the
less
dense
category.
That
means
differentiation
between
the
neighborhoods
will
become
minimal
and
that
a
part
of
our
purpose
here
is
to
prioritize
parks,
one
against
the
other
based
on
neighborhood
characteristics.
So,
if
they're
all
starting
to
fall
under
the
same
category,
we're
not
doing
that.
So
what
we're
suggesting
is
actually
changing
the
language
to
set
those
thresholds
as
percentages
of
overall.
M
So
a
couple
of
issues,
metrics
issues
and
questions
on
the
CIP
and
the
metrics
I
realized,
as
always
submitting
a
quick
report
this
year
that
I
deleted
a
line
from
last
year's
CIP.
Unfortunately,
at
work,
which
had
done
previously
funded
with
to
the
tune
of
1.5
million
dollars
in
2022,
was
simply
deleted
from
the
spreadsheet.
At
some
point,
as
I
was
going
through
different
versions,
I
noticed
this
area
as
I
was
submitting.
M
The
click
report,
as
I
said,
I,
think
it's
important
to
restore
that
back
in
its
regular
year
and
funding
level
into
the
next
round
of
the
CIP
and
not
put
it
at
the
end.
We
should
put
it
back
in
2022.
This
will
have
an
effect
on
some
other
projects,
but
in
theory
those
projects,
actually
shouldn't
have
done
as
early
as
they
were
anyways
had
that
area
not
been
made
so
I
just
want
to
alert
everyone
to
that.
M
A
big
question
on
the
CIP
number
one
is:
the
field
staff
should
bring
forward
an
ordinance
revision
of
the
density
metric
as
I
described
and
they're
also
about
to
take
the
opportunity
for
any
other
questions
about
the
metrics
or
the
CIP
or
any
other
discussion
items
that
you'd
like
to
have
this
particular
topic
before
I
move
into
the
undeveloped
trucks.
Ordinance.
Thank.
M
President
commissioner,
research,
the
regional
park,
visitor
counts,
I,
updated
annually
and
when
that
counts,
so
like
the
2017
count
that
was
just
released
is
an
average
of
the
preceding
four
years.
So
there's
a
rolling
average,
but
there
is
a
new
count
that
has
come
out.
It
comes
out
every
year.
Okay,.
G
M
Music
there's
a
report
on
the
Met
Council
website
and
I
can
certainly
follow
that
link
around
to
the
commissioners
so
you're
aware
of
it.
So
that's
on
a
publicly
available
online.
Now
that
would.
G
I,
guess
kind
of
relates
to
the
unranked
number
that
you're
gonna
be
talking
about
with
us
next,
but
the
numbers
we've
been
working
with
for
a
number
of
years
has
not
included
undeveloped
parks
too
many
of
those
parks
people
have
been
waiting
a
long
time
like
the
one.
In
my
district
over
14
years
now,
people
have
been
waiting
for
us
to
do
something
with
that
land.
How?
G
M
G
So
I'm
probably
gonna
have
more
questions
about
that,
but
I'm
glad
to
know
that
that'll
tie
into
some
of
the
information
we've
gotten
this
far.
If
we
wanted
to
look
at
where
parks
for
a
ranked
when
we
initially
started
utilizing
this
tool,
we're
on
the
park
board
website,
can
we
find
this
ranking
information
for
previous
years.
M
M
If
you
were
to
go
to
the
first
year
where
the
neighborhood
equity
metrics
were
implemented,
which
was
27
2016,
and
if
you
pull
that
down,
then
those
rankings
would
either
be
a
spreadsheet
like
this.
That
would
be
current
for
that
year
and
then
last
year's
spreadsheet
is
under
2017
and
when
these
will
be
posted
here
shortly,
okay.
G
M
M
President
Boren
Commissioner
kögel,
the
then
the
neighborhood
unit
is
used
typically
throughout
these
metrics,
because
the
the
a
park
sits
within
that
neighborhood
unit
and
generally
serves
that
neighborhood
unit.
If
we
went
to
a
smaller
unit,
then
we
wouldn't
be
taking
into
account
sort
of
the
spaces
in
between,
as
it.
M
A
neighborhood
would
or
a
park
would
be
ranked
based
on
a
much
smaller
unit.
I
would
have
to
verify
if
the
density
that
we're
looking
at
is
the
raw
population
or
if
it's
just
divided
by
area.
Presumably
it
should
be
divided
by
area,
because
that
would
be
the
density
calculation,
so
I
look
at
that
and
verify
that
before
bringing
kind
of
an
ordinance
question
forward,
because
if
we're
not
taking
neighborhood
area
into
account,
I
can
I
can
see
your
point
on
that.
Yeah.
M
I
H
M
H
B
You,
commissioner
horny,
as
are
there
any
other
questions
on
this
portion
of
mr.
Arvidsson
presentation.
I
just
have
one
really
quick
question
and
maybe
maybe
a
comment
but
the
first
question.
At
our
last
meeting
we
had
a
presentation
on
the
state
of
wading
pools
on
the
on
the
north
side
of
Minneapolis
and
I'm.
B
Looking
at
these
change
numbers
and
like
I,
look,
for
example,
at
the
lyndale
school
pool,
and
there
was
a
huge
jump
on
on
that
and
I'm
assuming
that
was
one
of
the
categories
are
on
condition
because
I
know
that
there
are
some
repairs
that
are
needed
there,
but
I'm
not
seeing
a
lot
of
other
and
unless
I'm
just
missing
them.
Can
you
can
you
help
me
kind
of
reconcile
that
update
that
we
had
last
week
with
with
the
rankings
that
we
have
right
now.
M
Many
of
the
North
Side
parks
were
already
in
the
very
top
tier
both
for
community
characteristics
and
then
some
of
them
for
the
neighborhood
for
the
asset
characteristics
as
well,
so
North,
Commons
and
Foyle
in
Cleveland,
were
they
were
already
in.
The
blue
they've
already
been
brought
into
the
CIP
as
areas
where
projects
will
take
place.
Okay,.
B
So
so,
if
if
an
amenity
fails
when
an
entire,
when
an
entire
park
is
in
is
already
in
the
CIP
and
ranked
relatively
highly
and
a
significant
amenity
fails,
does
that?
Does
that
impact
the
suggested
allocation,
then?
So
these
suggested
allocation
of
mountain,
not
necessarily
that
not
necessarily
the
ranking.
M
Think
how
to
answer
that,
so
what
we've
historically
done
is
if
a
park
is
already
in
the
CIP
and
we
wouldn't
adjust
the
allocation
again
without
there
being
probably
some
specific
requests
to
do
that.
But
often
if
a
if
a
facility
is
falling
or
has
failed,
then
likely
we
had
accounted
for
its
poor
quality
and
the
longevity
factor.
The
fact
it's
outside
its
useful
life
already
so
so
that
facility
may
have
already
been
scoring
at
the
highest
possible
score
because
of
its
poorest
possible
condition.
So
when.
M
B
You
could
you
go
back
to
the
changes
in
the
our
cap
map,
certainly
I'm,
just
I'm
I'm,
looking
at
at
some
changes
here
and
I
and
I.
Think
if
I'm
reading
this
right,
like
one
of
the
things
that
you'd
mentioned,
that
there's
a
couple
of
areas
that
are
no,
that
no
longer
have
an
are
cap
rating
and
and
one
of
my
one
of
my
concerns
is.
B
Our
folks
moving
out
of
the
neighborhood
because
they
can
no
longer
afford
to
live
there
versus
versus
hey
income
among
these
communities
is
rising
and
I'm
I
have
the
feeling
just
from
the
work.
A
lot
of
us
are
doing
the
outside
of
this
room
that
it's,
because
people
can
no
longer
afford
to
live
there,
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
I
know.
B
So
I
think
that
that,
on
this
at
this
point
is
just
a
comment.
I
certainly
don't
have
the
answer
for
that,
but
I
think
we
do
want
to
be
really
thoughtful
of
of
who
we're
working
with
when
we're,
making
these
investments
and
making
sure
that
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
make
sure.
Folks
in
stay
in
their
homes-
that's
that
are
there
any
other
questions
on
on
this
portion
of
the
section
or
with
with
no
other
questions.
All
I
ask
mr.
Arbit
son
to
move
on
Thank.
M
M
Plan
but
which
have
no
major
built
assets
and
an
example
of
this
would
be
Salomon
Park.
It's
a
very
large
park,
there's
really
not
much
there.
We
have
a
master
plan
for
that
Park.
Another
type
would
be
parks
that
we
all
and
have
master
plan,
but
they're
small
and
have
major
assets.
So
there
are
many
triangles
where
we
have
suggested
there
might
be
a
good
areas
for
seating
or
natural
resource
restoration,
or
something
like
that.
That's
still
a
commitment
to
the
community.
It's
never
gonna
have
major
assets,
it's
still
undeveloped
park.
M
Technically,
although
these
are
ports
that
the
NPR
v
has
invit
has
envisioned
in
its
master
planning
efforts,
but
it
doesn't
even
get
home
and
that's
the
best
example
of
that
would
be
the
park
in
the
North
Loop.
That
is
called
for
in
the
downtown
service
area
master
plan
under
the
current
neighborhood
equity
metrics,
and
this
is
something
that
commissioner
music
referred
to
earlier.
It's
something
that
we've
struggled
with
all
along
the
way
is
that
these
parks
can
never
be
scored
on
their
Park
characteristics
because
they
don't
have
assets
so
that
equity.
M
If
they
were
all
brought
into
the
developed
parks
list,
that
means
that
they
would
both
be
lower
and
also
all
of
a
sudden
we've
been
doing
nothing
but
undeveloped
parks
for
years.
Okay,
so
we
feel
like
what
player
needs
to
happen,
recognizing
that
sometimes
an
undeveloped
park
may
be
the
most
critical
park
infrastructure
in
a
neighborhood.
We
have
heard
that
in
places
where
we
have
a
park
and
haven't
adapted
or
in
places
where
we
don't
have
one,
let
me
there
will
be
the
only
opportunity
for
the
neighborhood
to
have
a
park.
M
So
half
an
MP
will
be
invest
equitably
in
undeveloped
parks
alongside
its
work
on
the
existing
parks.
So
we
convened
a
work
group
on
the
cross-functional
work
group
to
kind
of
brainstorm
this
out
and
to
look
at
the
existing
metrics
and
to
find
out
there's
a
way
to
do
this.
We
have
an
idea
that
I
will
propose
to
you
tonight,
which
certainly
is
open
for
consideration
and
discussion
and
slings
and
arrows
and
there's
a
few
details
that
I
also
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
before
we
we
potentially
bring
forward
our
formal
ordinance.
M
A
couple
of
the
goals
that
we
were
thinking
about
when
we
tackle
this
is
that
we
wanted
to
work
to
implement
the
master
plans
for
undeveloped
parks,
concurrently
with
those
four
developed
parks.
So
how
do
we
do
some
of
one
and
some
of
the
other
at
the
same
time,
so
we're
just
not
waiting
for
all
the
undeveloped
until
the
end?
How
do
we
focus
today
on
today
is
with
the
greatest
community
need?
That
is
a
overarching
theme
of
our
equity
metrics,
but
they're.
So.
M
Parks,
we
do
separate
them
into
that
category.
We
dedicate
a
portion
of
the
neighborhood
capital
funds
each
year
to
the
undeveloped
parks.
This
is
not
unlike
what
we
do
with
the
regional.
There
are
two
undeveloped
regional
parks
which
we
call
opportunity
facilities
and
we
dedicate
a
portion
of
the
regional
dollars
to
those
parks.
Each
year
we
could
do
the
same
for
the
neighborhood
undeveloped
parks.
M
We
have
used
no
but
similar
equity
criteria
to
rank
those
undeveloped
parks
against
each
other,
not
against
the
developed
part,
but
within
that
second
list,
and
then
we
would
gradually
move
those
underground
parks
on
to
the
developed
list
once
they
have
assets.
So
we
highlight
a
couple
of
these
points.
The
first
two
are
maybe
straight
forward
and
the
others
I
want
to
dig
into
a
little
bit
so
using
move,
it's
similar
equity
criteria
to
rank
undeveloped
parks.
What
would
that
mean?
M
You
guys
have
seen
these
kind
of
blobs
before
community
characteristics
versus
park
characteristics
we're
trying
to
in
the
context
of
this,
have
some
consistency
around
our
equity
metrics.
So
for
the
community
characteristics,
we
would
use
the
same
four
that
we
use
for
all
the
other
neighborhood
parks,
so
that
there's
uniformity
for
the
park
characteristics
we've
devised,
two
new
metrics
that
would
apply
to
develop
mix
only
and
that's
proximity
and
asset
potential.
M
The
proximity
metric
would
be
how
many
of
our
five
major
assets
building
play
area
aquatics
field
in
court.
Those
are
the
five
we
use
for
the
other
rankings.
How
many
of
those
are
within
a
10
minute
walk
and
there
would
be
a
scoring
from
0
to
5
points
and
a
park
would
get
more
points
if
fewer
assets
were
available
nearby.
That
are
very
recognizing
that
it
may
be
the
only
option
in
that
neighborhood.
The
asset
potential
would
be
that
whether
a
park
will
have
major
assets
according.
M
Yes
or
no
and
that's
even
a
zero
or
a
five,
so
under
this
scenario,
a
park
where
we
are
planning
major
assets
playground
a
court,
something
big.
Yet
none
of
that
is
nearby
that
point
that
theoretically
get
the
maximum
10
points
and
would
go
to
the
top
toward
the
top
of
the
list,
a
park
that
we're
planning
a
major
asset.
But
there
are
other
parks
nearby.
It
would
get
you
know
halfway,
but
maybe
a
small
triangle
where
we're
not
planning
much
and
then
perhaps
nearby.
M
Those
would
still
be
on
the
list,
but
they
would
be
prioritized
much
lower.
So
that's
the
basic
idea
behind
that.
Under
this
characteristic,
you
see
the
spreadsheet
that
we
use
for
some
of
the
other
metrics.
Essentially,
we
have
a
total
of
possible
ten
points
under
the
park,
characteristics
which
still
keeps
the
characteristics
at
a
lower
point
total
than
the
community
characteristics,
which
again
is.
M
Essentially,
if
all
things
were
equal
among
those
parks
under
the
park
characteristics,
we
would
invest
where
the
neighborhood
need
is
greater
first
again
in
the
spirit
of
the
way
our
other
equity
metrics
work.
So
we've
also
talked
about
this
idea
of
moving
and
develop
parks
onto
the
developed
list
once
they
see
improvements,
so
we
have
to
develop
criteria
for
becoming
developed
in
the
regional
park
system.
We
have
very
detailed
criteria
because
there's
only
two
parks
and
they're
pretty
well
defined
here
we've
got
40.
N
M
Park
list,
okay,
I
think
we
were
trying
to
make
those
CIP
locations
that
we
make
to
those
under
the
road
parks
accomplish
these
criteria
in
the
first
fell
swoop,
so
that
after
that
first
allocation
they
are
considered
developed.
They
move
into
the
developed
parks
list
where
they
become
eligible
for
a
new
allocation
to
implement
the
remainder
of
their
master
plan.
So
that
will
happen.
Is
that
the
CIP
that
undeveloped
X
list
will
gradually
shrink
and
then
ultimately
disappear?
S
M
List
so,
as
I
mentioned,
that
undeveloped
list
will
gradually
go
away,
which
is
the
idea
we
shouldn't
have
undeveloped
parks.
We
should
have
implemented
master
plans,
so
discussion
I
got
a
few
things
to
have.
You
think
about
and
I'd
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
this
obviously
do
the
goals
and
the
basic
approach
seem
appropriate.
I
can
go
back
to
that
slide
again.
M
Million
each
year
into
the
neighborhood
capital
funds
that
doesn't
include
the
rehab,
it's
just
the
neighborhood
capital
unknown
or
year,
and
currently
we're
putting
about
seven
to
10
new
developed
parks
into
the
CIP
each
year.
It
depends
on
their
locations
a
little
bit,
but
that's
an
average
for
each
million
dollars
that
would
go
into
undeveloped
parks.
There
would
be
about
one
fewer
developed
Park
in
the
CIP,
so
you
can
think
of
that
almost
as
a
as
a
unit
as
you
were
so.
M
G
G
When
I
think
about
other
criteria,
we
might
want
to
be
looking
at
I,
don't
see
anything
in
the
criteria.
You've
laid
out
that
identifies
really
the
length
of
time
that
communities
have
been
waiting
for
us
to
do
something
with
properties
that
we've
acquired
for
the
purpose
of
turning
into
parks.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
folks
around
that
Solomon
have
been
waiting
14
years
already
for
us
to
do
something
and
we've
planned
out
six
years
already
in
the
CIP,
so
they're
really
looking
at
almost
two
decades
before
we
start
doing
anything
on
this
property.
G
M
President
commissioner
usage
there's
in
the
case
of
undeveloped
parks,
there's
a
there's
a
little
bit
of
refinement
that
doesn't
need
to
happen
there
around
the
major
facility,
definition
and
I
think
that
things
like
dog
works,
skate
parks
and
those
would
all
be
encompassed
in
that
play
category
and
would
start
to
be
averaged
into
that
play
category.
So
we
would
be
considering
those
things
as
one
of
those
major
assets
for
the
purposes
of
proximity
and
also
for
the
purposes
of
asset
potential.
Okay,.
G
I'm
also
wondering
you
mentioned
on
here
that
for
every
million
dollars
that
we
dedicate
to
developing
undeveloped
parks
that
that
would
drop
one
park
off
of
the
one
develop
park
off
of
the
list
for
being
invested
in
in
that
CIP
year
with.
Would
that
be
an
equivalence
investment,
then
in
undeveloped
parks?
We're
only
seeing
one
of
them
falling
off
the
list
a
year
or
is?
Is
the
expectation
that
we
would
be
having
more
than
one
undeveloped
park,
seeing
investment
in
a
in
an
in
a
year.
M
President
Park
Commission
research
from
I
do
wanna
be
clear
that
I'm
not
suggesting
that
we
drop
parks
off
the
CIP.
We
would
add
fewer
parks
to
the
idea
of
the
CIP
and
then
in
terms
of
the
equivalency.
The
undeveloped
parks
are
quite
varied
in
how
much
investment
they
would
even
ever
have
so.
There
are.
M
M
G
That
list
would
you
expect
that
in
a
twenty
year
period,
if
we
were
to
invest
a
minimum
of
a
million
dollars
annually
in
investing
in
those
spaces
that
we
would
see,
every
single
one
of
those
parks
have
some
kind
of
investment.
Or
are
we
thinking
that
at
the
end
of
and
pp20
some
of
these
facilities,
where
people
have
already
been
waiting
as
I
mentioned
many
many
many
years,
would
still
not
see
any
investment
present.
M
I
Just
have
a
couple
questions
and
I
apologize
if
they're
basic
how
many
undeveloped
assets
do
we
currently
have
under
parks
yeah?
Is
there
like
a
number
that
we
have
40,
40
okay,
and
is
there
great
variation
in
what
you
would
suspect,
the
necessary
investment
level
to
be
from
Park
to
park,
or
is
that
just
determined
by
whatever
our
master
plan
would
be
yeah.
M
President
Park
will
go
the
the
sort
of
master
plan.
Building
out
of
a
park
is
determined
by
the
service
area,
master
plans
and
the
cost
of
building
out
the
undeveloped
parks
varies
significantly.
There
are
some
where
the
cost
is
is
is
relatively
high,
though.
That
number
is
much
fewer
than
those
books
where
the
cost
is
very
low,
where
we
were
talking
about
some
landscaping,
natural
restoration
benches,
public
art
walkways,
the
vast
majority
of
the
undeveloped
parks
fall
into
that
category
into
that
lower
investment
category.
Okay,.
M
Okay
president,
ask
a
clarifying
question:
I'm
Commissioner
Coble,
though
what
we,
what
we've
suggested
here
is
one
of
the
metrics,
the.
M
M
Parks
where
we
actually
would
be
building
a
major
asset
that
might
serve
the
community
with
something
more
than
a
bunch
in
a
walkway,
and
so
under
this
system
we
would
be
essentially
rewarding
those
parks
whose
area
and
whose
master
plans
are
calling
for
there
to
be
something
more
substantial
and
actually
wait
on
some
of
the
smaller
improvements
until
later.
So
that's
I
want
to
clarify
whether
you.
M
President
Boren
Commissioner
curva,
the
reasoning
behind
it,
was
that
those
parks
that
have
master
plans
that
are
calling
for
these
additional
assets
are
more
likely
to
be
in
a
place
where
those
assets
don't
exist.
So
we
have
master-planned
them
in
because
of
the
dearth
in
that
area.
So
we
felt
that
those
parks
where
major
assets
can
be
implemented
would
provide
more
immediate
service
than
perhaps
a
triangle
with
a
bench
in
a
walkway
which
dot
which
doesn't
increase
recreation
value,
perhaps
as
much
as
a
play
area
might
again,
that's
just
the
background
to
it.
I
M
I
K
You
president
Boren
I
think
Commissioner
Cole
Gil
just
confused
me.
No
with
these
these
assets,
the
five
major
assets
and
these
undeveloped
parks
has
the
community
been
involved
in
like
what's
major
to
them
or
like.
Are
there
any
future
plans
in
having
some
community
input
if
it
hasn't
already
been
any
president.
M
Born
Commissioner
of
eats
how
the
service
area
master
plans
that
are
ongoing,
that
have
significant
community
engagement
around
them.
That's
the
process
by
which
the
community
has
determined
the
designs
and
master
plans
of
all
the
parks,
including
the
undeveloped
ones.
So
we
have
master
plans,
Salman
Park.
We
have
master
plan
to
North
Loop
Park
in
the
north
service
area
master
plan
which
just
recently
had
a
cat
recommendation,
but
has
not
yet
become
before
you.
M
M
K
Can,
and
can
that
be
like
ongoing,
because
I
mean
it's
gonna
take
a
while
for
some
spaces
to
be
developed,
so
will
they
be
opportunities
for
people
to
chime
in
because
things
may
change
right
like
what
may
be
needed
now
may
be
different
in
five
years,
so
it's
that
gonna
be
an
ongoing
thing.
Are
we
going
to
use
what
we
have
now
ten
years
from
now
to
still
develop
in
that
area?.
M
If
we
find
during
that
subsequent
community
engagement
that
there's
a
very
different
community
need
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
take
making
those
changes
too
lightly,
because
there's
a
lot
of
engagement
that
went
into
the
master
plans
themselves,
but
there
are
mechanisms
to
continue
that
conversation
as
we
implement
projects.
Thank.
K
M
H
You
is
there,
map
of
just
undeveloped,
er.
M
H
R
H
Know
there
are
everywhere,
but
that
would
be
very
helpful
and
I
am
optimistic
that
we
will
be
receiving
future
lands
and
I
would
hope
that
we
could
somehow.
How
does
that
phase
into
this?
You
know
whatever
anticipated
or
unanticipated
things
that
somehow
we
can
schedule
those
things,
because
you
know
I'm
sure
the
airport's
gonna
go
away
and
we're
gonna
add
that
this
first
all
that
undeveloped
land.
H
O
M
Brussels
that
we
do
not
own
but
have
identified
in
service
area
master
plans
would
get
a
slot
would
get
a
line
on
the
undeveloped
works
list,
so
the
North
Loop
Park
does
not
exist.
It
is
called
for
in
a
master
plan.
It
is
considered
a
park.
You
would
get
a
score
all
the
way
across
and
it
would
be
eligible
for
improvement
similar
to.
We
are
likely
to
put
those
to
you.
The
CAC,
for
the
net
side
has
recommended
that
we
need
some
additional
parkland
in
the
northwestern
part
of
the
of
the
service
area.
M
M
M
H
Good
good
and
then
I
guess
we
keep
on
talking
about
ass
or
major
assets,
I
mean
a
tennis
court
or
you
know
whatever
one
of
the
assets
could
we
possibly
have
just
natural
areas?
I
mean
coming
before
us
is
going
to
be
a
forest
school.
You
know
and
if
that's
a
need
or
desire
expressed
by
the
community,
whatever
any
place
that
we
can
is
least
have
that
as
a
potential.
B
G
You
present
important
so
Commissioner
Forney
has
got
me
thinking,
properties
that
we
own,
like
the
land
under
the
airport
and
properties,
longer
over
front
that
we
have
buildings
on
currently
that
we
intend
to
make
parks
someday
with
those
properties
at
the
time
that
they
become
available
for
park
development
and
up
on
this
undeveloped
park
list.
And
are
we
doing
analysis
on
an
annual
basis
to
determine
if
we
have
any
of
those
properties
that
we
should
be
adding
president.
M
M
M
M
Little
parcels
sort
of
add
up
to
become
the
undeveloped
above
the
falls,
but
if
in
the
theoretical
situation
of
the
airport
goes
away
and
we
end
up
with
a
whole
lot
of
land
there,
all
of
a
sudden
and
I
think
you
would
add
that
to
the
undeveloped
parks
list
and
you
would
score
it
under
the
metric
and
you
would
invest
in
it
when
it's
number
came
up.
Okay,.
B
Thank
You,
commissioner
music
I
have
a
couple
of
just
things
to
think
about
as
we're
moving
forward
here
and
a
couple
of
specific
questions
the
when
we
were
developing
MPP
20
and
we
were
going
out
and
telling
people
just
to
fix
our
neighborhood
parks
that
we
have
where
our
undeveloped
parcels
part
of
that
conversation
and
part
of
that
and
part
of
and
part
of
those
numbers.
We
were
putting
forward
to
folks.
N
M
That
they
weren't
included
in
the
dollar
amounts
because
they
didn't
have
major
assets,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
can
recall
hearing
from
the
community
during
that
process
was
that
there
were
areas
of
town
that
we
still
weren't
serving
with
any
kind
of
park,
and
so
this
is
one
way
of
trying
to
address
that
concern.
Also,
okay,.
B
You
know
I
understand
that
when
one
of
the
I
mean
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
were,
that
the
come,
that
conversations
that
the
community
was
having
during
close
the
gap
and
MPP
20
was
also
the
need
for
need
for
programming
and
there
and
and
we've
really
kind
of
secured
these
npp
20
funds
and
made
a
promise
that
they
would
be
spent
on
on
what
we
said
they
would
be
used
for
so
I
do
so.
I
do
have
concern
about
just
a
reallocation
of
npp.
20
funds.
B
I
mean
I
would
be
very
open
to
setting
up
an
undeveloped,
Park
fund,
but
I
think
that
has
to
be
associated
with
new
funding,
because
the
if
I'm
hearing
you're
right
we've
we've
already
presented
to
the
city
that
you
know
at
the
end
of
it
at
the
end
of
MPP
20
Weil.
We
will
have
gone
through
that.
We
will
have
gone
through
that.
Listen
back
to
the
top
costs
are
gonna
go
up
over
the
years,
and
that
will
be
that
that
will
also
adjust
for
our
the
income
under
MPP.
B
20
will
also
adjust
to,
but
but
I'm
nervous
that
we
will
be
slowing
down
that
work
if
we're
taking
MPP
20
funds
to
fix
things
that
to
develop
things
that
were
not
part
of
what
the
repair
list
was,
and
we
might
not
get
through
that
list.
So
I
think
we
would
really
need
to
look
at
some
sort
of
capital
levy
for
undeveloped
for
undeveloped
parks,
otherwise
I
feel
like
I
feel
like.
B
There
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
would
feel
like
we
were
breaking
this
promise
of
NPP
2000
just
want
to
point
out,
and
just
for
for
folks
that
are
kind
of
listening
to
the
language
that
we're
using.
It
is
okay
for
the
park
board
to
have
undeveloped
spaces
and
natural
spaces,
and
so
what
we're
very
specifically
talking
about
are
things
that
we
have.
We
have
long
term
plans
about
to
be
to
be
neighborhood
parks
so
similar
to
a
playground
like
a
Brian
square,
or
so
we're
not
talking
about
taking
our
natural
spaces
and
developing
them.
B
B
You
know
as
we're
trying
to
address
water
issues
in
that
part
of
town
that
we're
looking
at
developing
a
currently
undeveloped
area
that
is
close
to
a
quarter
more
than
a
quarter
of
the
size
of
Hiawatha
golf
course
which
we're
trying
to
address
right
now.
So
I
would
just
be
a
little
bit
concerned
about
how
much
development
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
doing
there
while
we're
trying
to
restore
some
natural
areas
walking
distance
away
just
on
the
other
side
of
the
lake.
So
if
we
thought
a
little
bit
about
that,
yep.
M
But
when
we
talk
about
developed
in
the
park,
that
can
happen
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
the
master
plan
for
head
Salman
Park
is
really
limited
to
some
small
picnic
areas
on
the
hog
on
trails:
boardwalks,
a
discount
of
course,
so
things
like
that.
The
design
for
the
park
does
take
into
account
the
fact
that
that
he's
a
more
naturalized
park
with
wetlands
within
it.
M
There
are
restrictions
actually
from
the
airport
on
that
park,
which
we're
considered
as
part
of
the
master
plan,
I
think
we're
trying
not
to
over
in
a
park,
and
we
do
it
for
the
master
planning
process
with
that
community
engagement
in
place.
Okay,
so
we
wouldn't,
we
wouldn't,
go
and
implement
beyond
that
master
plan
for
outside
on
than
just
because
it
came
on
this
list.
Okay,.
B
B
G
You
president
Boren
I
guess
I'm
gonna
have
to
fundamentally
disagree
with
your
thought
that
we
need
to
find
dedicated
funding
for
undeveloped
parks
in
the
system.
When
we
talked
with
the
public
and
with
our
fellow
elected
officials
about
MPP
20,
we
specifically
talked
about
the
need
to
really
address
people's
access
to
park,
spaces
and
ensuring
that
we
are
implementing
master
plans
in
a
timely
manner
and
maintaining
the
assets
that
we
have
to
a
reasonable
degree.
G
G
There's
going
to
be
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
frustration
coming
from
people
and
when
I
talk
about
undesirable
use
of
the
space,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
using
it
as
an
off-leash
dog
park
right
now,
and
so
people
are
afraid
to
be
in
it
for
fear
that
they
might
be
attacked
by
dogs.
We've
got
a
lot
of
young
people
that
are
off
in
the
woods
just
kind
of
up
to
whatever
and
I
think.
If
we
had
more
people
in
the
parks,
people
might
want
to
behave
in
a
way.
G
B
N
M
B
L
A
suggestion
for
that
question
I
know
when
we
talked
to
the
community
at
the
time
we
had
a
lot
of
dialogue
around
the
difference
between
funding
new
items
versus
taking
care
of
what
we
have,
and
there
was
a
kind
of
a
ratio
in
terms
of
how
people
felt
we
should
be
looking
at
future
items
versus
taking
care
of
what
we
have
so
I
think
what
might
be
helpful
to
this
conversation
as
we
go
back,
we
look
at
the
materials
that
we
use
we'd
be
able
to
come
back
to
you
and
and
better
articulate,
because
we're
all
kind
of
going
off
of
some
of
the
memory
that
we
have
over
the
time,
but
be
able
to
better
articulate
an
answer
to
that
question.
L
C
Okay
to
this
question,
the
undeveloped
parks
are
on
the
neighborhood
park
list
they're
just
at
the
bottom
of
the
list,
and
what
autumn
was
trying
to
do
was
to
say
here
is
a
way
these
developed
parts
will
probably
never
happen
or
if
they
happen
there
will
be
20
years
down
the
road.
So
here's
a
way
to
think
about
those
undeveloped
parks
in
terms
of
how
they
potentially
could
be
funded,
and
so
he
was
taking
the
bottom
of
his
list.
C
The
the
the
part
list
and
saying
here
is
a
way
that
we
can
get
to
some
of
these
parks
that
we
might
not
get
to,
and
so
that's
really
what
this
is
all
about.
This
really
isn't
creating
a
whole
new
set
of
parks
to
be
funded.
But
it's
really
saying
we've
got
a
list
of
all
of
our
PI
properties
at
the
bottom
of
the
list.
N
Guess
my
biggest
concern
I
appreciate
that
superintendent
Morales
is
it's
a
discuss,
ballpark
again,
where
we
have
three
major
issues
in
North
Minneapolis?
How?
Where
people
of
color
I
mean
that's
interesting,
that
a
job
four
places
here
too?
But
their
concern
is
this.
If
we
have
something
like
this
happen,
what
if
oil
pipes
10th
on
the
list-
and
we
take
care
of
the
first
nine
and
then
we
develop
a
Solomon
Park
instead
of
maintaining
our
improving
flower
park,
that's
a
legitimate
concern
for
that
community.
I
hate
distressed
it
again.
N
We
have
a
broken
wading
pool
that
sounds
unrepairable.
We
have
tennis
courts
that
have
been
broke
for
over
ten
years
now
and
and
unsafe
to
walk
on
and
and
now
we
have
also
have
a
flooding
problem
that
we've
been
dealing
with
for
30
years.
That's
just
one
of
the
parks!
So
that's
just
my
concern,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
you
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
this
happen,
but
in
alternative
funding
source
I'd.
Be
all
for
something
like
that.
B
Mr.
Robertson,
when
when
we
talked
about
the
when
we
started
talking
about
emerald
ash,
borer
and
I'm,
almost
seeing
kind
of
a
parallel
between
this
and
the
report,
the
forestation
levee,
we
had
a
very
specific
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
that
undeveloped
parks
will
only
be
undeveloped
until
we
develop
them.
So
if
we
allocate
funding
towards
them
eventually,
that
list
will
go
away.
B
So
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
and
part
of
this
conversation
to
come
up
with
a
how
much
money
you
would
need
to
make
that
go
away
in
a
reasonable
amount
of
time,
and
then
that
helps
us
approach,
the
city
and
the
board
of
estimate
and
Taxation.
Maybe
we
can
do
a
time
specific
levy
that
doesn't
take
away
from
MPP,
$20
and
and
needed
funds
and
funds
that
I
feel,
like
a
lot
of
us,
made
commitments
that
we
would
spend
on
repairs.
B
So
if
you
could
come
up
with
kind
of
a
financial
projection,
what
we
would
need
for
a
maybe
it's
a
separate
levy,
just
like
the
the
forestry
levy
and
at
last
10
years
or
15
years
or
eight
years,
if
you
want
to
come
together
with
a
plan
like
that,
I
I
think
the
entire
board
would
support
additional
funding
for
undeveloped
lands
if
it
wasn't
for
undeveloped
parks
if
it
wasn't
pulling
from
some
of
our
current
projects.
So
thank
you.
B
If
the
board,
you
are
right
and
I
put,
my
I
put
my
agenda
down
so
I'm
under
new
business
for
the
purposes
of
discussion.
We
would
need
somebody
to
move
this
forward,
regardless
of
what
we're
doing
so.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
right
now
for
2018
241,
approving
a
comment
letter
on
the
city
of
Minneapolis
2040,
comprehensive
plan.
Again,
noting
that
it's
just
for
discussion
purposes,
is
there
a
motion
so
moved?
B
It's
been
moved
like
a
second,
it's
been
moved
in
this.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
mr.
Robertson
prepared
a
draft
letter
based
on
some
of
our
comments
and
staff
work.
Do
folks
have
some
initial
folks
have
questions
for
mr.
Robinson.
Do
folks
have
discussion
on
the
resolution
or
the
letter
in
general,
Commissioner
Myer.
J
J
Why
your
mother
met
okay,
well,
I
have
three
areas
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
related
to
the
draft
letter.
First
year
we
had
a
lot
of
people
comment
about
the
proposed
changes
to
the
shoreland
overlay
and
I.
Wanted
you
to
talk
more
about
why
it
is
that
that
staff
proposed
that
and
note
that
it
was
a
staff
proposal
and
that
something
directed
by
any
Commissioner.
M
Thank
you,
president
commissioner
Meyer,
and
my
thanks
also
to
the
folks
that
came
out
to
talk
about
this
topic.
You
know
sometimes
I
kind
later
on
a
comprehensive
plan.
It's
pretty
dry
stuff,
so
I
appreciate
them
all
taking
the
time.
Certainly,
the
intent
here
was
not
to
suggest
a
an
elimination
or
a
weakening
of
the
shoreland
overlay
district,
but
rather
to
actually
make
it
more
powerful
in
terms
of
dealing
with
some
of
the
environmental
issues
that
it
perhaps
doesn't
address
as
well
today,
most
notably
water
quality.
M
So
the
intent
here
was
that
you
know
there's
a
as
as
some
of
the
speaker's
brought
forward.
There's
a
river
stream
of
variances
that
come
forward
for,
in
most
cases,
kind
of
small
height
variances,
not
the
the
tender
ones,
but
going
from
28
feet
to
35
feet
or
something
like
which
really
don't
have
much
impact
on
water
quality
or
environmental
resources.
M
M
This
another
learner,
which
then
typically
it's
our
Planning
Commission
representative
and
brings
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission,
but
it's
essentially
what
we
get
is
a
notification
that
something
is
coming
before
the
Planning
Commission
and
here's
the
project.
How
do
you
feel
about
it?
It's
no
notification.
We
get
is
no
different
than
the
notification
that
the
next
door
neighbor
would
get.
The
city
notifies
everyone
within
a
300-foot
radius
of
a
project,
if
there's
a
variance
being
sought-
and
we
are
often
within
300
feet,
so
we
get
a
notification.
M
I
would
not
consider
that
to
be
involvement
in
the
implementation
or
application
of
this
ordinance
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
had
hoped
for
to
request
of
the
city
should
this
language
go
forward
was
that
we
actually
would
have
a
more
deliberate
involvement
earlier
in
the
process
beyond
just
that
that
back
end
notification.
Thank.
J
You
so,
and
we
had
lots
of
comments
and
I
got
lots
of
emails,
asking
me
not
to
eliminate
the
shoreland
overlay,
but
you
know,
as
far
as
I
can
see
what
we're
not
eliminating
anything
we're
strengthening
it.
A
couple
things
to
note
about
that.
You
know
it.
These
variances
are
happening
all
the
time
and
they're
always
getting
approved,
so
the
ordinance
hasn't,
you
know,
really
been
enacted,
and
the
second
thing
is
that
the
original
objective
of
the
ordinance
is
to
reduce
water
pollution.
J
Phosphates,
nitrates
and
look
at
that
like
that
and
on
the
ordinance
in
its
current
form,
isn't
doing
anything
to
contribute
to
that.
So
this
performance-based
standard
would
actually
do
things
toward
improving
the
water
quality,
and
we
don't
want
to
ask
for
the
you
know:
a
mandate
specifically
for
green
roofs
on
every
building
or
rain
barrels,
or
your
micromanage
exactly
how
they
accomplish
this
improved
water
quality.
J
We
want
to
say
you
have
to
do
something
if
you're
going
to
build
in
proximity
to
our
water
bodies
of
water,
and
you
have
to
improve
the
pollution
level
somehow
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
pretty
good
idea.
I
do
think
that
there's
probably
some
significant
misunderstanding
about
it.
I
asked
you
just
show
up
math.
Can
you
scroll
down
a
little
bit
on
that,
because
I
just
want
want
to
show
that?
Well,
if
you
can
make
sure
all
the
lake.
S
J
J
J
All
the
other
areas
are
zoned
for
two
and
a
half
stories
right.
So
I
was
asking
people
who
were
calling
me
like
what
areas
are
you
concerned
about
it?
If
it's
just?
If
it's
just
the
north
side,
then
if
it's,
if
there
is
and
your
light
rail,
then
I
I
think
those
are
appropriate
places
for
development.
The
rest
of
them
are
two
enough
stories.
So
I
I
don't
think
that
there's
much
of
an
impact
there
yeah
that's
on
the
north
side
of
the
lake.
J
J
The
second
thing
I
wanted
to
comment
on
was
there
are
two
points
in
the
letter
where
it
says
that
we're
not
going
to
comment
on
density,
but
the
letter
contradicts
itself
by
talking
about
density.
Multiple
times
are
talking
about
things
that
would
would
effects
density,
for
example.
At
the
beginning
it
says
the
plans
specific
language
on
which,
like
equity,
Economic,
Opportunity
and
housing
availability,
that's
the
relevant
one.
J
You
know
that
they
that
we
support
those
things
and
increasing
housing
availability
increases
the
density
of
the
city.
If
there
are
more
people
living
in
the
city
than
then
means
a
denser
cities
also
says:
NPR
B
is
not
opposed
to
increase
heights
and
densities
where
appropriate,
such
as
Westlake,
which
is
already
very
dense
and
will
soon
be
in
close
proximity
to
light
rail
transit.
It
says
in
the
housing
access
section
referring
to
policies
137
and
41.
J
The
NPR
B
supports
policies
that
protect
housing
options
and
introduce
new
housing
opportunities
for
people
of
various
backgrounds
and
income
levels.
These
policies
are
central
to
diversifying
and
providing
equitable
Park
access,
and
then
we
also
talked
about
homeless
homelessness
with
us
all
paragraph
about
that
saying
that
M
care
B
strongly
supports
the
elimination
of
homelessness
and
increasing
access
to
safe,
affordable
housing
and,
in
particular
the
homelessness
issue,
makes
that
a
really
relevant
issue
to
the
park
board.
You
know
when
I
did
a
bike
along
with
the
police.
J
A
month
ago,
the
whole
day
we
were
mostly
dealing
with
homelessness
in
one
way
or
another,
and
chief
otto
told
us
at
a
previous
meeting.
That
homelessness
is
worse
now
than
it
ever
has
been
before.
While
he's
been
working
here-
and
we
should
ask
ourselves
why
it
is
that
homelessness
is
worse
now
than
it
was
previously,
and
my
answer
would
be
that
the
vacancy
rate
for
the
city
is
lower
now
than
it
has
been
before,
you
know
had
about
a
two
percent
vacancy
level.
J
It's
the
lowest
of
any
metro
in
the
country,
so
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate
for
us
to
leave
those
comments,
as
is
then
that
I
do
refer
to
homelessness
and
housing
policy
and
simply
remove
the
statements
that
say
we're
not
going
to
comment
on
density
because
those
are
comments
at
night
intensity
and
then
the
third
addition
that
I
would
like
to
make
is
one
that
I
referred
to
at
on
previous
Menuhin.
Had
discussion
about
it
under
the
tree
can
resection.
J
You
know,
I
really
feel
that
whenever
a
road
gets
reconstructed,
we
should
be
pushing
utility
lines
to
be
buried,
because
you
know,
just
a
few
months
ago
in
my
district
Excel
was
going
around
cutting
down
our
severely
trimming
trees.
All
over
I
got
a
lot
of
complaints
about
that,
and
one
of
the
biggest
ways
that
we
can
improve
the
tree.
Canopy
is
to
bury
those
lines
and
trees
can
replace
them.
B
I
You,
president
Boren,
and
thanks
to
everybody
who
came
out
to
talk
about
the
importance
of
the
shoreline
overlay
district
and
also
to
stress
the
importance
of
the
environmental
protections
that
are
so
critical
to
our
Lakes.
I,
am
supportive
of
staff
going
back
and
rethinking
some
of
the
wording
around
the
comments
around
Shore
land
overlay
and
really
acknowledging
the
really
critical
role,
even
if
just
in
the
values
that
it
affirms.
I
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
can't
be
required
right
now
by
developers,
but
if
environmental
stewardship
agencies
like
the
MPR
B
are
at
the
table
earlier,
we're
going
to
have
an
impact
there
more
clearly.
So
I
support
a
little
bit
of
change
in
terms
of
how
we're
wording
this,
but
especially
in
terms
of
being
at
the
table
early.
That
final
bullet
point
as
a
recommendation.
I
think
that
that's
critical
and
I'm
really
happy
that
that
is
a
consideration.
H
You
heaven
you're
seeking
for
us
to
ask
the
question
we
refer
to
this
as
performance-based
and
I
think
that
I
am
a
lot,
always
very
ignorant
of
what
that
means.
I
have
a
small
amount
of
knowledge
on
it,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
share
with
this
number
one,
what
it
means
and
maybe
give
some
examples
of
how
this
could
strengthen
the
shoreland
overlay.
M
M
Of
surface
waters,
preserving
enhanced
the
natural
and
economic
values
of
Shore
land
areas
provide
for
the
efficient
and
beneficial
use
of
those
waters
and
protect
the
public
health,
safety
and
welfare,
and
now
the
last
one
is
kind
of
a
standard
code.
Language
thing
Nicholas's,
shoreland
district
regulates
specifically,
and
these
are
the
items
in
that
ordinance.
It
regulates
the
height
of
structures,
it
regulates
development
on
steep
slopes,
grading
and
filling
removal
of
vegetation
and
stormwater
management.
I
would
say
the
storm
water
management,
language.
D
M
N
S
M
Some
of
the
things
that
are
in
the
ordinance
right
now
are
very
prescriptive
and
some
are
almost
too
general
to
even
be
enforceable,
so
traditional
zone
and
what
it
would
do
or
what
it
does
is.
It
specifically
regulates
certain
aspects
of
development,
for
instance,
debate
which
has
been
brought
up
a
lot
tonight.
There
are
height
limits
within
the
shoreland
overlay
district,
so
that's
traditional.
O
N
N
M
M
That
target
target
could
be
set
and
those
targets
can
be
can
be
hard
lined.
They
don't
have
to
be
just
improve.
It
can
be
a
35%
reduction
in
total
phosphorus.
From
a
previous
condition,
you
know
I'm
just
throwing
out
numbers,
so
those
targets
are
set.
The
outcomes
that
are
set
can
be
met
in
a
variety
of
different
ways,
from
site
to
site
development,
to
development.
So
there's
flexibility
and
implementation
that
the
targets
must
be
met.
What
this
does
is
it
allows
flexibility
in
design.
M
It
also
allows-
and
this
is
what's
really
important
for
us-
I-
think
as
a
board
is
it
allows
municipalities
to
participate
in
the
decision-making
process,
no
matter
what
so,
regardless
of
whether
someone's
asking
for
pants
or
not
the
proponent
zoning,
there
would
be
some
participation
by
the
city
and
hopefully
by
the
court
board
in
how
those
developers
are
meeting
those
goals
and
the
example
that
I'll
raise
is
that
there
are
often
homes
along
the
lakes.
Very
large
homes,
where
single
pairs
of
single
family
lots
are
removed
and
a
much
larger
home
is
built.
It
meets.
M
The
height
requirement
meets
the
grading
requirement
and
significantly
increases
impervious
surface.
Under
that
scenario,
we
have
no
jurisdiction,
no
have
anything
to
say
about
it,
because
they're
meeting
the
code
requirements
a
little
performant
zoning,
they
would
have
to
still
meet
certain
performance
criteria
to
improve
water
quality,
to
deal
with
aesthetics,
to
tackle
whatever
you
kind
of
want
them
to
do,
and
the
averages
of
that
would
be
the
agencies
again,
regardless
of
whether
they're
asking
for
a
variance
or
not.
H
H
The
person
who
opened
Pandora's
box
density
is
one
of
the
largest
things
that's
being
talked
about
in
the
comp
plan
and
the
city's
comprehensive
2040,
whatever
they
call
it,
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
having
served
on
the
Planning
Commission
is
I
wanted
to
put
as
we're
calling
it
the
teeth
back
into
this
ordinance,
because
it's
going
to
be
even
more
threatened
and
so
that
it
was
the
purpose
of
it
is.
How
can
we
approach
us
in
a
way
that
it
is
stronger
and
works
better
for
our
bodies
of
water
and
protecting
them?
H
That
is
why
I
brought
it
up,
and
possibly
other
people
have
talked
about
it,
but
I
feel
like
I
was
one
who
really
looked
into
it.
I've
read
every
page
of
the
the
comp
plan
and
as
I
shared
with
Adam
I
feel
that
every
single
page
refers
to
parks
and
includes
parks,
because,
as
you
all
know,
it
Minneapolis
just
happens
to
be
a
city
inside
of
a
park.
So
I
was
approaching
it
with
that
lens.
Whether
or
not
we
comment
on
density
or
not
I,
don't
know
that
that's
really
what's
appropriate
or
not
it's
more.
H
Good
density,
I,
guess,
is
the
best
way
to
say
it
and
everything.
So
that's
you
know
what
I
was
trying
to
establish
some
of
the
things
that
I
found
that
we're
really
missing
within
the
the
comp
plan
is
wherever
development
is.
How
can
we
make
connections,
as
commissioner
Mayer
referred
to
you
know
anytime,
a
tree
is
taken
out,
you
know,
can
we
bury
powerlines
well
for
to
me
anytime,
we
can
make
stronger
connections.
Green
connections
that
are
also
great
separated
from
our
pedestrian
or
automobiles
I
think
are
equally
as
important.
H
So
it's
with
that
lens
that
you
know.
If
we're
gonna
have
a
city
that
grows,
how
do
we
grow
and
keep
it
that
Park
that
that
city
happens
to
be
inside
of
so
the
shoreline
overlay
is
our
vehicle,
it
is,
but
how
can
we
make
it
so
that
it
adapts
appropriately
for
density?
If
that's
the
word
and
I'm
sorry
I,
don't
know
why
we
call
it
density
to
me
it's
about
being
compact.
H
That
might
have
been
a
better
word
to
be
sell
a
selling
this
plan,
the
last
thing
that
Timmy
was
very
very
important,
and
that
is
that
if
we
are
talking
about
affordable
housing
or
at
least
the
city's
talking
about
it
number
one
most
of
you
know
there
wasn't
any
teeth
in
there.
Absolutely
none-
and
that
was
very
bothersome
to
me,
and
we
have
the
park
dedication
feet
and
the
park
dedication
fee
presently
waves
for
affordable
housing
so
anywhere
we
have
development,
new
development,
commercial,
not
excuse
me
any
housing,
development
and
everything
park.
H
Land
dedication
fees
are
going
to
be
going
into
areas
that
are
market
rate,
so
in
other
words,
we're
just
going
to
be
adding
more
richness
to
the
already
rich
assets
that
the
city
has
and
yet,
where
we're
putting
an
affordable
housing
which
there's
no
distinction
of
where
that's
going
to
be
more
than
likely,
it's
not
going
to
be
where
there's
market
rate
the
way
the
plan
is
written
right
now.
So
therefore
we're
not
being
able
to
be
equitable
with
our
parkland
dedication
fee.
That
is
very
bothersome
to
me.
H
It's
perpetuating
what
already
this
city
has
been.
Very.
Very
consistent
in
doing
in
adding
you
know
where
we
have
wealthy
areas
that
we
were
gonna
put
more
more
green
space,
get
more
access
and
denying
the
areas
that
are
underserved,
so
I
really
have
a
hard
time
with
it,
and
I
want
the
city
to
approach
that,
in
my
personal
opinion,
I
feel
that
they
should
require
that
a
percentage
of
every
single,
solitary
development
should
have
affordable
housing
and
therefore
we
would
be
distributing
you
know
our
parkland
dedication
fee
up
throughout
the
city.
H
So
those
were
my
three
biggest
concerns
and,
like
I,
say,
I
found
those
all
the
way
through
the
entire
plan.
I
just
very
much
appreciate
you
know
what
Adam
has
distilled.
This
has
been
a
conversation.
It
was
presented
to
the
board
before
so
I
hope
that
we
have
been
transparent
on
it,
but
we
really
really
do
want
to
hear
from
you,
but
I
want
to
really
clarify
that
we
are
not
getting
rid
of
the
shoreline
overlay.
H
What
we
want
to
add
teeth
to
it
and
to
me
the
performance
space
seems
to
be
a
better
way
to
continue
this
legacy.
That
thank
you
elect.
You
know
for
starting
what
was
it
40
years
ago?
I
really
appreciate
it.
We
want
to
continue
that
whole
advocacy
and
making
sure
that
we
are
safeguarding
our
natural
amenities.
You
know
for
generations
to
come
and
that
I'll
stop.