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B
Thank
you.
Let
the
record
reflect,
we
have
a
quorum.
Colleagues,
the
one
and
only
piece
of
business
before
us
today
is
to
formally
begin
our
work
on
mayor
fry's
2021
recommended
budget.
Over
the
last
several
months.
This
committee
has
received
a
series
of
presentations
to
examine
the
details
of
each
department's
budget
requests.
B
This
committee
and
the
city
council
have
also
held
two
public
hearings
on
this
budget
as
well,
and
we
will
hold
a
third
hearing
next
week
on
wednesday
december
9th
at
6
05
pm.
I
want
to
start
with
an
overview
of
the
process.
I
intend
to
follow
for
this
meeting
the
amendments
that
you
have
before
you
and
our
you
know.
We
have
some
that
just
aren't
even
yet
ready
for
today,
but
they
are
ordered
in
the
agenda
packet
that
was
sent
to
all
council
members.
B
Today,
I
will
be
asking
our
budget
director
micah
intermil,
to
introduce
each
proposed
amendment
when
we've
completed
action
on
all
the
prepared
amendments
and
to
be
fair,
we
have
to
end
by
4
pm.
Today
I
anticipate
we
will
get
through
half,
hopefully
through
budget
amendment
six.
I
will
then
open
the
floor
to
any
further
proposals
that
were
not
done
in
time
to
be
included.
B
B
I
plan
on
adjourning
today's
meeting
at
4
pm
so
that
our
technical
team
can
prepare
for
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment
meeting
at
4
30.,
whatever
we
do
not
finish
today
and
we
won't
finish
today,
we
will
continue
at
our
meeting
scheduled
tomorrow
december
4th
also
at
1
30
pm.
Do
any
of
my
colleagues
have
questions
about
the
process
that
I
have
outlined?
I
will
do
my
best
to
keep
the
chat
function
open,
so
my
colleagues
can
get
into
cue
and
I
can
call
on
you
as
soon
as
possible.
B
E
Yes,
madam
chair,
I
am
present
now
after
some
technical
difficulties
with
microsoft
teams.
B
Yep
got
it.
Thank
you
with
that.
I'd
like
to
ask
director
intermil
to
introduce
each
amendment.
Mr
intermil
will
identify
the
amendment
and
then
it
will
recognize
the
author
for
comments.
We
will
then
open
the
floor
for
discussion
on
the
amendment
before
taking
a
vote.
We're
going
to
start
with
the
technical
amendments,
I
will
also
ask
for
our
communications
and
tech
team
to
be
sure
we're
displaying
them.
Mr
intramural,
would
you
like
to
go
ahead
and
begin.
F
Great
thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon,
sir
paul
masano
council,
president
bender
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
micah
intermil
city
budget
director.
Thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
walk
through
the
high
level
detail
of
the
technical
amendment
and
then
also
provide
the
reading
of
the
additional
amendments
throughout
today
and
tomorrow.
F
Before
I
do,
though,
I
would
like
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
the
hard
work
of
the
enterprise
that
brought
us
here
today.
I
found
myself
frequently
saying
this
year
that
we
don't
build
budgets
for
the
sake
of
building
budgets.
We
build
them
for
the
sake
of
delivering
services
to
and
for
the
residents
and
businesses
that
operate
in
our
city.
It's
important
to
recognize
that
broader
context,
even
as
we
sift
through
the
details
of
a
budget
markup.
F
Second,
and
perhaps
most
importantly,
this
budget
wasn't
built
by
any
one
individual.
It's
the
combination
of
a
lot
of
hard
work
of
folks
in
every
department,
and
this
year
was
hard.
This
is
our
third
markup.
I've
lost
track
of
how
many
meetings
the
budget
committee
has
held,
but
I've
no
doubt
it's
a
record.
I
think
every
department
head
division
director
and
frontline
staff
members
contributed
in
particular
in
particular
my
colleagues
on
our
accounting
team,
our
debt
investments
team
and
the
finance
and
administrative
managers
in
each
department.
F
F
Our
city
coordinator,
mark
ruff,
has
provided
a
steady
hand
as
always
to
help
keep
us
moving
forward
through
several
iterations
of
budgets
this
year
and
nothing
works
without
the
clerks.
Thank
you
to
casey
carl
and
the
entire
expanded
team
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
the
it
department,
the
communications
department
and
the
convention
center,
who
have
participated
in
every
one
of
our
budget
committee
meetings
this
year.
F
F
Of
course,
we're
not
infallible
and
we
do
make
errors,
particularly
when
juggling
multiple
simultaneous
budgets
has
happened
this
year.
I'll
now
summarize
for
you,
the
changes
included
in
amendment
number
one,
the
technical
amendment
which
correct
for
these
errors
and
omissions
in
total.
You
will
see
that
these
amendments
reduce
the
general
fund
operating
expenses
by
two
million
dollars,
that
two
million
dollars
has
already
been
reinvested
in
the
mayor's
recommended
capital
budget.
So
this
set
of
amendments
does
not
increase
or
decrease
the
total.
F
Item
b
relates
to
aligning
the
downtown
improvement
district
expenditure
budget,
with
the
plans
incorporated
into
previously
adopted
city
council
resolutions
and
agreements
with
the
did
items
c1
through
c11
relate
to
squaring
up
it.
Charges
across
all
departments
with
our
final
budget
picture.
Similarly,
items
d1
through
d11
relate
to
squaring
up
fleet
services
charges
across
all
departments.
With
our
final
budget
picture,
items
e1
through
e27
relate
to
a
reduction
in
city
expenses
for
the
rent
costs
of
city
hall.
As
you're
aware,
the
city
pays
rent
to
the
municipal
building
commission.
F
The
mayor's
recommended
budget
calls
for
2
million
dollars
of
that
rent
to
be
supported
by
existing
cash
balance
that
the
nbc
has
accrued
from
city
payments
in
excess
of
mbc
expenditures
over
the
past
several
years.
We
simply
did
not
make
it
all
the
way
through
our
complicated
rent
model
when
we
pulled
together
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
and
so
need
to
correct
for
that
over
expense.
F
Through
this
amendment,
items
f1
and
f2
square
up
the
self
insurance
fund
charges
across
all
departments
with
our
final
budget
picture
items
g1
through
g13
relate
to
aligning
our
debt
service
and
transfer
budgets
with
the
realities.
We
know
today
due
to
the
timing
of
the
issuance
of
debt
each
year.
We
often
need
to
adjust
these
budgets
through
the
technical
amendment,
and
this
year
is
no
different
item.
H,
modifies
the
capital
budget
to
accelerate
the
issuance
of
capital
improvement
bonds
for
the
new
public
service
building
project
item.
F
Item
k
relates
to
a
position
in
the
cped
economic
development
division,
which
moves
the
fte
from
the
general
fund
to
development
funds
to
help
avoid
a
layoff
included
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget.
It
does
not
materially
increase
the
expenditure
from
the
development
account
as
another
fte
has
voluntarily
separated
from
the
city
item.
L
incorporates
additional
program
income
from
cdbg
funds
and
relieves
expenses
that
would
otherwise
have
fallen
to
the
development.
Account
item
m
fully
captures
unspent
allocations
to
the
neighborhoods
from
prior
years
and
shows
them
as
being
expended
in
2021.
F
That
concludes
my
prepared
descriptions
of
the
technical
amendment.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
on
the
process
or
any
individual
components.
B
Thank
you
I'll
give
my
colleagues
a
moment
to
get
into
queue
if
they
have
any.
B
Not
seeing
any
we'll
get
in
the
habit
of
this
quickly,
I
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
role
on
this
technical
amendment.
Item
number
one.
G
B
That
motion
carries
moving
to
amendment
number
two
I'll.
Let
my
colleagues
know
that
this
didn't
feel
right
to
be
part
of
the
technical
amendments
of
the
budget,
but
it
is
closely
technical.
We
have
been
working
on
this
broadly
between
council
members,
particularly
council,
vice
president
jenkins
and
the
mayor's
office.
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
director
intermil
to
introduce
it.
F
Certainly,
madam
chair,
so
amendment
number
two
is
a
motion
by
councilmember
paul
masano
amending
the
2021
mayor's
recommended
budget
in
the
general
fund
for
the
city
coordinator
and
health
departments
on
a
one-time
basis,
increasing
the
expense
budget
for
environmental
services
by
one
million
one
hundred
and
sixty
seven
thousand
dollars
and
reducing
the
expense
budget
in
the
sustainability
unit
by
one
million
one
hundred
and
sixty
seven
thousand
dollars.
B
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
comments
or
questions
or
suggestions
about
this
councilmember
gordon
go
ahead.
H
Thanks
so
much
I'm
just
curious
about
sustainability
and
health
staff.
It
looks
like
this
is
pretty
consistent.
Maybe
it's
a
way
that
we
can
be
focusing
some
more
of
our
sustainability
funding,
perhaps
where
it's
coming
related
to
the
franchise
fee,
where
we've
identified
some
funds
to
use
for
sustainability,
but
I'd
like
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
that
this
stuff.
I
just
saw
this
a
few
minutes
ago,
so
I
I'm
just
trying
to
do
something
here.
H
I
of
course
love
rebuilding
resiliency
in
the
areas
that
have
been
harmed,
and
I
see
that
it's
going
towards
energy
efficiency
and
solar
projects
has
sustainability
and
health
reviewed
this
carefully
and
are
these.
B
My
understanding
is
that
they
are,
I
had
conversations
with
patrick
hanlon
on
it
from
the
health
department
and
he
was
there
for
for
the
initial
presentation
to
the
public
a
few
weeks
ago.
Mr
hanlon,
are
you
here
on
the
line,
and
would
you
be
willing
to
chime
in
and
share
a
little
bit
of
narrative
about
this.
I
I
am
chair:
palmisano,
council
members,
councilmember
gordon,
yes,
we've
been.
I
This
is
really
a
reframing
of
the
green
costume
program
in
being
intentional
about
focusing
it
on
the
recovery
efforts,
and
so
it's
using
the
the
franchise
fee
funding
or
the
justification
of
the
franchise
fee,
funding
to
focus
on
rebuilding
the
recovery
and
energy
using
energy
efficiency
and
solar
to
help
the
the
impacted
buildings
over
25
percent
impacted
buildings
in
utilizing
those
funds
and
their
recovery
efforts,
and
then
also
focused
in
on
the
in
bipod
communities
and
then
with
those,
especially
on
those
impacted
businesses
and
yeah.
I
We've
been
working
with
sustainability
office
and
the
evac
committee
and
coming
up
with
these
recommendations
and
then
also
working
with
the
minneapolis
now
coalition,
that's
chaired
by
west
broadway,
business
association,
lake
street
council
in
the
minneapolis
regional
chamber,
so
we've
been
trying
to
get
feedback
and
partners
together
on
on
how
do
we
reframe
and
how
do
we
focus
this?
This
funding
on
their
recovery
efforts.
H
I
It
also
includes
some
funding
in
working
with
our
partners
in
cped
on
how
do
we
incorporate
workforce
into
this
into
the
recovery
efforts
so
that
the
the
folks
that
are
doing
the
work
in
energy
and
solar
are
also
part
of
of
some
of
the
workforce?
That's
that's
benefiting
from
the
work
that's
going
on,
so
those
are
recommendations
that
were
put
forward
by
us.
I
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
all
the
work.
It
sounds
like
listening
to
mr
hamlin
that
this
is
part
of
an
initiative,
and
I
know
I
know
that
press
conferences
are
an
important
way
of
communicating
with
the
public.
I
do
think
having
more
of
these
kinds
of
reports
through
our
council
committees
will
help
us
kind
of
establish
that
legislative
record
of
the
work
that's
happening
with
rebuilding,
and
I
know
we
get.
G
We
also
get
emails
from
mr
poor
and
cped
who's
been
sending
us
regular
updates
about
rebuilding
and
again
that's
a
communication
to
council
members,
but
not
not
really
establishing
that
legislative
record
of
the
work.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
because
I
also
haven't
it's.
I
just
saw
this
as
well
when
the
the
amendments
were
emailed.
You
know
like
an
hour
ago
is:
is
this
a
grant
fund?
Is
it
focused
on
vacant
lots
or
existing
buildings,
and
you
know
how?
How
will
it
be?
I
Sure,
chair,
palmisano,
council,
member
bender
or
council
president
bender,
yes,
so
the
the
use
utilizing
this.
Can
you
repeat
the
question?
I'm
sorry.
G
Will
this
be
a
grant
fund
with
like
an
rfp
or
sort
of
a
you
know,
an
application
process,
and
then
I
wondered:
is
it
focused
on
rebuilding
specifically
vacant
lots
that
would
have
new
buildings,
which
I'm
asking
that
in
part,
because
that's
kind
of
a
longer
term
prospect
right?
It
takes
councilwoman.
Schrader
can
speak
about
this
in
more
recent
detail,
but
it
takes
some
time
for
new
buildings
to
work
their
way
through
the
approval
process
and
obviously
the
development
process.
G
So
it
you
know
if
a
building
is
contemplated.
Now
it's
you
know
a
year
or
two
before
it's
on
the
build
versus.
Is
it
focused
in
existing
buildings?
I
just
I
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
how
exactly
this
will
be
used
for
rebuilding
efforts.
I
Sure
yeah,
so
it's
we
can't
use
the
term
grant,
so
we
use
the
term
cost
share.
I
We
worked
with
our
legal
department
for
a
number
of
years
in
coming
up
with
the
contracts
we
use
for
for
this
program
and
it's
using
a,
albeit
an
imperfect
list,
but
it's
utilizing
the
the
fema
list
that
was
put
together
with
office
of
emergency
management,
that
initial
list
of
going
around
and
doing
assessments
of
the
list
of
damaged
buildings
and
we're
utilizing
or
we're
using
any
building
over
25
damaged
as
the
qualifications
for
some
of
the
additional
incentives
for
the
program
that
doesn't
mean
it's
ex.
These
funds
are
exclusive
to
those
buildings.
I
Obviously
every
business
in
minneapolis
right
now
is
facing
an
economic
crisis,
so
there
are
levels
of
incentives
available
to
every
business
and
our
partners
with
excel
energy
and
center
point.
The
chamber
of
commerce
are
also
bringing
funding
to
the
table
that
assists
with
the
recovery.
So
it's
really
leveraging
all
those
different
programs
that
are
available
for
all
businesses.
It's
just
there's
more
focus
on
in
bipod
communities
and
there's
more
focus
in
with
the
impacted
buildings
that
are
coming
off
of
that
list.
B
And
thank
you
for
getting
us
all.
You
know
on
the
record
in
the
right
place
for
those
talking
points
council
member,
do
any
of
my
colleagues
have
other
questions
or
thoughts
about
this
rebuild
resilient
motion.
C
B
Thank
you
that
motion
carries
moving
on
to
amendment
number
three.
We
normally
have
the
budget
director
read
the
amendments,
but
I
understand
that
council
member
cunningham
would
like
to
kick
us
off
with
this
amendment.
This
is
the
one
that
I
think
we
will
take
up,
perhaps
the
bulk
of
our
time
today.
So
I
just
want
to
let
my
colleagues
know
that
this
is
all
amendment
3,
but
there
are
11
parts
to
it.
So
go
ahead.
Council
member
cunningham.
G
So
this
amendment,
which
is
in
front
of
you
with
its
11
points
of
very
specific
detail,
is
based
off
of
work.
That's
been
happening
at
the
city
of
minneapolis
for
years,
it's
based
off
of
hundreds
of
hours
of
community
member
input
and
many
many
staff
across
the
enterprise
who
have
carefully
followed
those
staff
directions
which
were
unanimously
adopted
by
the
city
council.
G
And
this
morning
I
got
the
chance
to
send
a
summary
of
some
of
those
actions
that
we
have
taken,
particularly
this
term
since
2018,
which
really
set
the
stage
for
this
work.
The
thing
I
really
want
to
emphasize
before
councilmember
cunningham
reads
through
the
details,
because
we
really
want
to
make
sure
people
see
and
understand
the
details
which
don't
seem
to
be
reflected
in
some
of
the
narrative
that
is
out
there
is
that
these
are
real
and
specific
proposals
that
are
ready
to
go
next
year.
G
They've
been
identified
through
the
careful
process
that
we
set
out
unanimously
two
years
ago
through
the
staff
direction
that
councilmember
johnson,
authored
and
through
the
establishment
of
the
office
of
violence
prevention
in
that
work,
and
so
and
I
sent
the
links
to
all
the
meetings
where
we've
seen
those
presentations
from
staff.
The
work
of
the
911
mpd
work
group,
which
included
analyzing.
All
of
our
911,
calls
pulling
out
very
specific
data
about
which
calls
would
be
target
for
reducing
that
workload.
Reducing
that
call
volume
and
really
sending
the
right
response
to
people
in
need.
J
Thank
you,
madam
president,
and
thank
you
chair
palmisano.
I
volunteer
to
read
this
this
motion,
given
the
fact
that
it's
so
lengthy
I
offer
to
tag
in
so
that
our
budget
director
doesn't
have
to
laboriously
read
through
it.
J
So
so
this
motion
is
being
brought
forward
by
myself,
council
member
fletcher
and
council
president
bender
amending
the
2021
mayor's
recommended
budget
in
the
general
fund
for
the
following
departments
and
in
the
following
ways:
one
reduced
the
expense
in
the
police
department
by
a
total
of
five
five
million
six
hundred
ninety
thousand
ongoing
from
the
following
areas:
a
5
million
dollars
from
overtime
in
units
determined
by
the
chief
of
police,
be
230
000
from
contractual
services
accounts
in
the
mounted
patrols,
unit
c,
230,
000
from
the
reduction
to
the
co-responder
change
item,
specifically
eliminating
the
expansion
of
the
program
and
d
230
000
from
the
elimination
of
the
early
intervention
system.
J
Change.
Item
number
two
is
to
increase
the
expense
budget
in
the
health
department
by
1.723
million
dollars
in
the
on
an
ongoing
basis
for
the
expansion
of
the
office
of
violence
prevention
as
follows:
a
1
million
25
000
for
expanded
programming
for
gbi,
the
violence
prevention
fund,
the
blueprint
approved
institute
next
step,
hospital-based
intervention
and
community
de-escalation
and
restorative
justice
training
and
be
698
000
for
an
expansion
of
staffing,
including
ft,
seven
ftes
as
follows:
two
community
navigators,
one
community
health,
specialist,
three
commun,
three
public
health,
specialist,
twos
and
one
senior
researcher.
J
The
third
point
is
increase
the
expense
budget
in
the
city
coordinator's
office
by
2.827
million
dollars
as
follows:
a
two
million
one
hundred
forty
thousand
dollars
on
an
ongoing
basis,
including
two
fte
for
implementation
and
launch
of
911
mpd
work,
group
recommendations,
mh1
dispatch,
health,
mental
health,
professional
slash,
emt
teams
to
edp
calls
via
911
and
be
687
000
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
provide
funding
to
pilot
the
implementation
of
remaining
911mpd
workgroup.
Recommendations
for
for
2021
staff
are
directed
to
prioritize
piloting
recommendations,
mh2
train
911
dispatchers
and
assessing
mental
health.
J
By
that
same
amount
of
money,
item
number
nine
is
to
reduce
the
general
fund
budget
in
mpd
by
8.168
million
dollars
on
an
ongoing
basis.
Reduction
shall
come
from
the
community
safety
officer
program
and
planned
second
and
third.
Recruiting
classes
for
2021
10
is
to
increase
the
general
fund,
the
general
fund
budget
in
finance
and
property
services
by
that
same
amount
on
an
ongoing
basis
for
a
public
safety
staffing,
rep
reserve.
J
The
city's
police
chief
can
access
funds
in
the
reserve
by
submitting
a
report
to
the
committee
with
jurisdiction
over
public
safety
on
current
staffing
levels,
future
anticipated
staffing
needs
and
the
and
then
deploy
the
plan
to
deploy
funds,
and
the
last
is
to
item
number
11
is
lower
the
authorized
strength
of
the
mpd
to
750
and
calendar
year,
2022
and
beyond,
by
removing
all
sworn
positions
held
vacant
from
the
schedule.
Five
5
from
schedule,
5.
staff
in
the
finance
and
property
services
department,
are
to
assume
a
current
service
level
of
750
sworn
officers
in
2022.
J
So
I
will
move
that
whole
motion
with
all
11
items
and
if
it's
okay,
madam
chair,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
speak
to
some
of
it,.
J
I
will
speak
briefly
to
the
specific
violence
prevention
items
and
then
I'll
pass
it
over
to
council
member
fletcher,
if
that,
with
your
permission
for
him
to
cover
the
alternative
responses
in
police
accountability
in
regards
to
violence
prevention,
violence
does
not
have
to
be
a
part
of
our
daily
life,
and
when
we
talk
about
violence
as
a
part
of
our
daily
life,
we
have
to
recognize
some
of
our
residents
experience
it
at
a
much
higher
rate.
80
percent
over
80
percent
of
gun
violence
victims
are
black
and
the
majority
are
young.
J
J
We
can
do
this
by
investing
in
scientifically
proven
violence,
prevention
and
intervention
strategies
and
in
the
community
and
in
the
community
members
leading
efforts
in
our
neighborhoods
existing
minneapolis
office
of
violence
prevention
programs,
save
lives
and
will
save
even
more
in
our
city
if
expanded
and
properly
funded.
Through
these
proposed
amendments,
there
are
two
primary
buckets:
increasing
violence,
prevention,
work
and
neighborhood,
organizing
for
safety.
J
The
increases
to
the
violence,
prevention,
programming
and
work
include
expanding
next
step.
Our
hospital-based
bedside
intervention
program
to
abbott
northwestern
it
currently
serves
hcmc
and
north
north
memorial.
Thanks
to
previous
budget
amendments,
it
the
reason
for
moving
it
to
abbott
northwestern
is
that
they
receive
a
lot
of
walk-in
shooting
victims
and
they
are
almost
always
group
and
getting
involved.
J
The
package
expands
the
blueprint
approved
institute
to
serve
both
the
north
side
and
south
side
communities.
It
also
develops
and
implements
the
group
violence
intervention
strategy
in
south
minneapolis.
It
includes
north
side
and
south
side
offices
for
violence
interrupters
critically.
It
increases
the
operating
budget
to
fully
staff
the
office
of
violence
prevention
and
to
evaluate
its
programs
and,
lastly,
it
transfers
existing
community
navigators
from
mpd
to
the
office
of
violence
prevention
and
adds
a
southeast
asian
community
navigator.
J
I
will
add
a
quick
note
to
this
last
item
that
the
among
18
clan
council
has
only
had
one
ask
of
us
as
a
city
council,
and
it
has
been
for
there
to
be
a
southeast
asian
community
navigator
added
for
organizing
neighborhood
safety.
This
amendment
package
transfers
the
existing
cpss,
where
they
will
help
community
groups
and
neighborhood
organizations
prevent
crime
and
also
think
about
neighbor
relations.
J
It
also
restores
it
funds,
restorative
justice
and
de-escalation,
training
for
neighborhood
organizations
and
other
community-based
organizations,
and
it
increases
the
violence
prevention
fund
which
invests
in
community-led
violence
prevention
strategies.
That
is
what
I've
got
related.
Some
more
background.
I'm
sure
that
there
will
be
questions,
I'm
happy
to
take
those
questions
when
it's
appropriate
and
madam
chair,
if
it's
okay,
I
would
like
to
pass
pass
the
floor
to
council
member
fletcher.
B
Go
ahead
so
just
to
be
clear
in
terms
of
when
people
have
questions
or
thoughts.
Do
you
want
to
be
kind
of
asked
about
these
parts
and
pieces
that
you
just
spoke
about.
J
Yes,
I
I
will
take
the
the
lead
on
those
particular
questions
and
I'm
happy
to
also
yield
the
floor
to
my
my
co-authors,
where
necessary
as
well.
B
K
All
right,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues.
K
I
want
to
just
speak
briefly
about
the
alternative
response
aspects
of
the
budget
and
just
be
kind
of
clear
about
what
the
proposal
is
that
we're
doing,
because
I
know
there's
going
to
be
some
discussion
about
the
source
and
that
there's
been
some
discussion
about
particularly
using
overtime
as
the
source,
and
so,
let's
just
narratively,
really
kind
of
understand
what,
where
we
are
in
the
process
that
what
we
know
is
that
in
the
chief's
original
proposed
budget,
he
included
five
million
dollars
of
overtime.
K
K
How
do
we
solve
that
gap
and
the
proposal
to
add
five
million
dollars
of
overtime,
which
means
we
are
budgeting
for
ten
million
dollars
over
time,
which
would
require
an
amendment
to
our
financial
policies
and
is
far
more
than
we
have
ever
budgeted
for
would
allow
for
an
increase
of
about
three
percent
of
staff
time,
as
as
a
as
a
way
of
increasing
capacity.
K
What
we're
proposing
instead
is
to
provide
alternative
responses
that
can
take
conservatively
10
to
15
percent
of
the
staff.
Time
put
into
911
calls
out
of
mpd's
queue,
and
so
we
think,
with
that
five
million
dollars
we're
producing
a
significantly
stronger
result.
K
We
also
know
from
the
community
engagement
that
was
done
by
the
office
of
performance
and
innovation
around
this
work
that
we
believe
we
can
produce
a
substantially
better
outcome
on
a
lot
of
these
calls
and
that
we're
hearing
from
community
that
many
are
not
comfortable
with
the
outcome
that
we
currently
provide,
or
with
the
service
that
we
currently
provide.
So
we
think
there's
both
an
opportunity
to
really
improve
service
level
and
outcomes
and
to
take
significant
pressure
off
of
mpd,
so
that
law
enforcement
can
focus
on
what
we
want
law
enforcement
to
do.
K
So
these
are
the
programs
that
are
ready
to
implement
and
believe
me,
I
am
frustrated
as
someone
who
wants
to
see
us
move
as
quickly
as
possible
that
I
don't
have
a
lot
more.
I
would
love
for
this
to
be
bigger
frankly,
but
these
are
the
things
that
are
actually
ready
to
go
out
this
year
and
that
have
the
staff
work
behind
them
and
the
community
engagement
behind
them
to
really
be
ready
and
the
things
that
we're
able
to
do
are
mental
health
crisis
response.
K
Creating
mental
health,
mobile
teams
that
can
respond
directly
to
9-1-1
calls
around
mental
health
crises,
and
that
is
a
substantial
shift
in
the
way
we
approach.
Those
calls
it's
something
that
we
think
is
humane
is
representative
of
our
values
and
will
produce
better
outcomes,
and
I'm
excited
to
see
that
pilot
get
implemented
and
get
out
into
the
field.
K
As
a
part
of
that,
we
want
to
train
number
one
operators
to
more
effectively
triage
these
calls
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
dispatching
the
appropriate
responders
and
a
lot
of
the
tabletop
exercises
and
prototyping
that's
gone
into
this
over
the
last
18
months
has
really
prepared
all
of
the
departments
that
have
been
at
the
table,
including
911
and
mpd,
to
be
ready
to
engage
with
this
process.
K
I
also
am
excited
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
take
more
reporting
calls
than
the
mayor
had
originally
budgeted
for
out
of
the
a
911
improvement
over
the
original
proposal,
and
also,
you
know,
adds
capacity
in
a
way
that
I
think,
is
valuable.
So
I'm
enthusiastic
about
that
there's
also
some
important
accountability
measures
that
I
am
enthusiastic
to
support.
One
is
just
increasing
capacity
in
opcr,
and
I
want
to
really
give
credit
to
council
member
gordon
for
looking
very
closely
at
this.
Looking
at
the
eis
looking
at.
K
Where
is
the
capacity
needed
to
really
have
some
oversight,
and
I
think
he
may
I'm
sure
we
want
to
speak
more
to
that,
but
but
want
to
recognize
his
good
work
in
that
area.
K
And
then
the
other
thing
is
one
of
the
things
that
we'll
note,
as
we
started
to
look
into
this
overtime
question
is
that
it
is
a
routine
thing
for
mpd
to
significantly
overspend
its
budget
and
for
us
to
backfill
from
the
contingency
fund,
and
in
fact
it
is
one
of
the
top
three
uses
of
the
contingency
fund
alongside
snow
and
elections,
and
so
knowing
that
those
things
are
coming.
K
K
We
know
the
first
recruit
classes
is
happening
very
quickly,
are
allocated
to
that
fund
so
that
we
can
create
just
a
little
bit
more
accountability
and
transparency
and
and
create
a
little
bit
of
a
backstop
so
that
we're
not
just
caught
with
a
bad
surprise
on
a
contingency
fund
at
the
end
of
every
year.
This
is
really
about
moving
towards
a
different
kind
of
accountability
in
terms
of
budget
management
and
then
and
then.
K
Finally,
we
want
to
adjust
the
authorized
strength
of
mpd,
the
average
active
sworn
force
to
750,
which
reflects
reality.
It's
not
a
cut,
in
fact,
a
lot
of
times,
there's
confusion,
because
the
770
number
that's
been
discussed
includes
training
classes
while
they're
in
recruit
school,
and
so
there's
a
just
a
little
bit
of
a
differentiation
in
how
we
count.
The
750
number
is
reflective
and
in
fact,
is
more
than
what
we'll
have
we
suspect
this
year
and
then
into
next
year.
K
K
So
we
really
just
wanted
to
capture
something,
that's
more
reflective
of
where
we
are,
and
that
leaves
room
in
future,
projected
budgets
for
the
community
engagement
process
to
actually
play
out
and
for
this
council
to
decide
how
much
of
that
we
want
to
invest
in
policing
in
the
future,
and
how
much
of
that
we
want
to
invest
in
other
ideas
as
they
emerge.
I
will
stop
there
and
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
as
they
come
up.
Thanks
for
your
consideration,.
B
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
know
others
will
want
to
speak
and
ask
questions.
I
did
just
want
to
underscore
that
I
think
the
changes
proposed
in
this
budget
amendment
are
very
meaningful
that
they
will
make
a
meaningful
impact
on
our
shared,
unanimous
commitment
to
transform
our
system
of
public
safety.
G
It
is
also
a
very
moderate,
very
incremental
plan
that
is
intended
to
build
consensus
and
reflect
the
feedback
that
we
have
heard
from
colleagues
and
from
the
community.
It
has
the
same
number
of
officers
sworn
in
2021
as
the
mayor's
proposed
budget.
It
maintains
the
three
recruit
classes
that
the
mayor
included
in
his
budget,
and
it
includes
the
cso
class,
the
community
service
officer
class,
that
provides
some
support
to
the
police
office's
office,
the
police
department
and
creates
a
pipeline
for
police
officers.
G
G
This
is
the
year
in
2021
to
make
good
on
our
statements
to
make
good
on
our
commitments
that
we
started
two
years
ago,
officially
through
the
council
process
to
start
exploring
moving
work
out
of
mpd.
These
are
researched,
developed
proposals
that
included
input
from
community
and
service
providers
and
partners.
G
It
is
designed
to
have
impact
immediately,
and
while
it
is
innovative
in
the
fact
that
we
aren't
doing
these
things
now
in
many
ways,
it's
just
the
practical
way
that
we
shift
government
to
do
things
better
and
that's
why
it
is
so
important
to
understand
that
this
proposal
specific
real
proposals
that
are
ready
to
go
next
year
and
that
require
us
to
fund
city
staff
to
implement
them.
We
can't
continue
to
rely
on
asking
our
staff,
in
particular
departments,
to
work
80
or
100
hours
a
week
to
do
additional
work.
G
We
have
to
actually
fund
the
things
that
we
say.
We
support
if
we
want
them
to
happen
and
in
order
to
fund
ftes,
we
need
ongoing
dollars.
So
this
proposal
does
things
like
you
know
the
the
parking
enforcement
that's
happening
in
regular
regulatory
services.
Now,
during
the
day,
it's
just
funds
doing
that
in
the
evening
too,
is
that
innovative
I
mean?
G
H
B
D
Chair
promising,
that
is
correct,
jenkins
was
accidentally
added
incorrectly
she's
intended
to
be
on
the
next
one
on
an
initial
version
that
was
sent
out,
but
the
public
version
and
the
display
versions
are
correct.
Jenkins
is
not
an
author
on
that.
One.
B
H
I
can
appreciate
that
there
are
probably
some
things
that
look
nice
about
number
four,
but
it
certainly
doesn't
have
the
level
of
detail
and
doesn't
even
offer
that
anything
realistic
is
going
to
happen.
It
creates,
I
believe,
a
kind
of
a
big
fund
that
we'll
still
have
to
deal
with
in
the
future.
I
think
what
we
have
in
number
three,
which
I
hope
jenkins
will
vote
for,
even
if
she
doesn't
hasn't
been
an
author
on
it.
H
Well
and-
and
actually
I
hope-
all
of
my
colleagues
will
support
this,
because
I
actually
think
this
hits
just
where
we
need
to
be.
This
is
the
both
end
everybody
is
asking
for.
This
is,
is
in
total
alignment
with
the
mayor,
and
so
many
others
that
are
saying
770..
H
This
is
in
total
alignment,
unlike
what
some
of
the
newspaper
and
the
media
reports
seem
to
have
left
out
with
the
recommended
budget
of
the
mayor
and
the
police
chief,
that
we
have
more
classes
that
come
online
and
that
we're
doing
recruiting
and
hiring
I've
been
talking
to
people,
I
would
say
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
in
the
ward.
I've
had
meeting
after
meeting
both
virtual
and
socially
distance,
inappropriate
outdoor
in-person
meetings,
and
there
are
real
themes
that
I'm
hearing
one
theme
is.
H
We
do
want
to
feel
like
we're
safe
now
in
the
interim,
but
boy
we
better
be
transforming
and
moving
forward
in
the
future
and
some
of
the
ways
that
we
could
absolutely
do
that
are
outlined
in
this
motion.
The
key
thing
that
I'm
hearing
from
almost
everybody
is
they
want
an
alternative.
Fourth
response
to
emergencies.
H
They
understand
fire,
they
understand
paramedics,
they
understand
police,
but
they
want
an
alternative
to
come
forward.
Many
people
are
a
little
bit
surprised
to
learn
that
up
until
the
late
60s,
when
somebody
was
hurt
and
injured
somewhere,
a
police
car
would
take
him
to
the
hospital
emergency
room.
Doctors
started
to
be
alarmed
by
who
was
coming
in
thinking
man
if
they
just
had
cpr
on
their
way
to
the
hospital
they
might
not
be
dead.
Now
or
oh,
my
goodness,
how
did
this
person's
neck
get
so
damaged?
H
Coming
to
the
hospital
people
looked
at
it,
they
studied
the
issue
and
they
developed
a
new
program
called
paramedics
and
ems,
where
ambulances
and
trained
professionals
deal
with
those
kinds
of
emergencies.
That's
what
people
want
to
see
happening
now.
Next
year
they
saw
how
great
the
core
responder
model
worked,
but
they
also
saw
the
missing
pieces
that
doesn't
create
the
emergency
response
that
wouldn't
have
saved
the
lives
of
the
people
that
were
killed
by
police
when
they
were
having
a
mental
health
emergency
just
in
the
last
few
years
in
our
city.
H
But
this
could-
and
it
has
that
potential
and
I'm
delighted
to
see
that
in
there.
The
other
thing
I've
heard
about
is:
why
are
we
having
the
police
coming
to
all
these?
All
these
take
all
these
reports
and
that
having
the
311
alternative
is
something
people
want
and
they
expect,
and
they
would
also
like
to
be
able
to
call
and
have
somebody
come
to
report
their
crime
to
who
maybe
isn't
armed
and
who
isn't
going
to
be
taken
away
from.
Maybe
something
that's
more
important.
H
I
think
that's
key.
I
also-
and
I
think
I've
talked
to
most
of
my
colleagues
about
this-
and
I've
introduced
ordinance
amendments
to
our
whole
oversight
system.
People
all
over
the
city
want
us
to
do
a
better
job
of
doing
police
oversight.
We
need
to
give
the
resources
to
our
civil
rights
department,
so
they
can
do
police
conduct
review
appropriately.
H
They
need
more
investigators
and
if
we
are
thinking
of
having
some
kind
of
a
system
in
place,
so
we
can
help
our
leadership
identify
officers
who
may
need
training
who
may
need
redirecting
who
may
need
changing.
That
program
should
go
outside
of
the
police
department
and
in
the
civil
rights
department,
where
they
are
doing
the
police
conduct
review
process.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
authors
of
this
ordinance
willing
to
include
that
in
here.
I
hope
that
we
can
get
to
those
seven
votes.
H
I
think
there
may
even
be
a
compromise
motion
that
would
help
get
some
people
aligned
with
this
that
might
be
coming
forward
by
council
member
schrader
as
number
six
goals,
which
I
will
certainly
give
careful
consideration
too
so
come
on
board.
This
is
the
both
and
solution.
This
is
the
compromise.
This
is
the
next
step
that
we
can
all
take
together
and
14
of
us
can
show
the
people
of
minneapolis
that
we
are
united.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
lot
of
my
colleagues
have
said
the
types
of
things
that
I
would
like
to
say
and
have
gone
over
the
proposal.
I
think
really
well
so
I'll.
Try
not
to
repeat
what's
already
been
said,
but
I
am
supportive
of
this
of
this
proposal
and,
as
the
council
president
said,
I
think
that
this
is
the
the
bare
minimum.
This
is
the
baseline
of
what
we
should
be
investing
in
in
previous
years.
L
We've
seen
that,
while
we
have
made
investments
in
this
direction
since
the
beginning
of
of
the
term
here,
I
think
that
we
have
often
sort
of
given
we've
compromised
and
given
a
million
here,
half
a
million
there,
and
I
think
that
it's
time
that
we
decide
that
we
are
going
to
invest
in
these
in
in
these
investments,
for
public
safety
and
and
that
we
shouldn't
and
that
we
shouldn't
keep
compromising
and
and
expecting
that
these
things
will
manifest
someday
out
of
the
ether
you
know
by
accident,
maybe,
and
that
we
can
continue
to
rely
on
on
really
what
what
is
a
policing,
only
model
that
we
have
here
in
the
city.
L
When
it
comes
to
public
safety,
we
can
talk
about
all
of
the
investments
that
we
have,
but
the
real
thing
is:
if
you
compare
budgets,
we
don't
really
invest
in
it
seriously
in
any
other
type
of
public
safety
other
than
policing
here
in
minneapolis.
L
This
changes
that
to
a
significant
degree-
and
this
sets
us
up
to
to
really
build
on
to
really
build
on
some
work,
to
keep
people
safe.
Councilmember
gordon
just
talked
about
alluded
to
travis
jordan,
who,
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
was
killed
in
our
city
was
killed
in
ward
4
and
he
was
somebody
who
was
in
the
throes
of
a
mental
health
crisis
and
and
and
and
during
during
his
his
strife
and
pain
he
was.
He
was
killed
by
minneapolis
police.
L
Now
who
was
served
in
that
situation,
his
girlfriend
called
to
to
help
to
get
him
calmed
down
so
that
he
wouldn't
harm
himself.
L
She
wasn't
served,
travis
jordan
obviously
wasn't
served,
he
was
in
need
of
help
and
he
was
killed
and
the
officer
wasn't
served
because
the
officer
shows
up
to
the
scene
not
equipped
to
handle.
The
situation
is
the
wrong
response,
not
the
appropriate
response
to
the
crisis
at
hand,
and
so
we
have
to
create
the
appropriate
response
to
the
appropriate
crisis
that
we're
facing
in
our
city,
and
I
think
this
is
a
the
direction
for
us
for
us
to
do
that.
You
know
I
was
reading
a
little.
L
I
was
reading
a
while
ago,
the
forward
of
a
book
by
khalil,
jabra
muhammad,
and
I
actually
just
want
to
read
an
excerpt
of
it.
You
know
it
reminded
me
of
the
cyclical
debate
that
we've
been
having
you
know.
I
think
that
some
of
the
the
framing
around
our
public
safety
conversation
has
been
well
who
thinks
the
problem's
really
bad
and
who
doesn't?
But
that's
not
the
real
conversation.
L
I've
said
that,
before
the
real
conversation
is
what's
going
to
work
in
terms
of
giving
us
a
safer
community,
and
the
reality
is,
is
that
some
of
us,
even
some
of
us
on
the
council,
have
just
simply
resigned
ourselves
to
the
fact
that
that
every
that
the
occasional
that
the
occasional
police
killing
is
just
the
cost
of
doing
business.
L
Some
of
us
on
this
council
have
resigned
ourselves
to
that.
Obviously,
some
of
our
us
in
this
community
have
resigned
ourselves
to
that.
That's
not
a
reality
that
I
can
accept.
I
can't
accept
that
that
that
travis,
jordan
is
simply
the
cost
of
doing
business
or
george
floyd
is
simply
the
cost
of
doing
business
when
it
comes
to
public
safety
in
our
city.
L
I
don't
think
any
of
us
should
accept
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
read
real
quick
and
this
excerpt
that
talks
about
our
history,
not
necessarily
here
in
minneapolis,
but
in
this
country
when
it
comes
to
talking
about
when
it
comes
to
addressing
reforming
the
police,
and
so
I'm
gonna
start
here,
and
it
starts
with
a
quote
from
from
kelly
miller.
L
L
Miller's
observations
were
part
of
a
broader
effort
by
the
black
performers
to
fix
policing
a
century
ago.
National
urban
league
researchers,
anna
j
thompson
and
ira
d.a
reid
conducted
several
studies
of
policing
in
the
1920s
and
1930s
and
found
widespread
evidence
of
discrimination
and
abuse
more
than
30
years
later
after
the
1960s
uprisings,
the
kerner
commission
came
to
a
similar
conclusion
and
made
several
recommendations.
L
L
These
are
all
things
that
we've
done
and
we've
seen
that
that
they've
either
been
undermined
or
that
the
fruits
of
them
have
not
been
fully
manifest
and
or
that
we
haven't
taken
them
fully
seriously.
Sorry,
my
dog's
here
I'm
going
to
continue
when
the
esteemed
sociologist
kenneth
clark,
whose
research
informed
the
brown
v
board
of
education
decision
testified
before
before
the
kerner
commission.
He
saw
history
repeating
itself
quote.
L
The
report
of
the
investigating
committee
of
the
harlem
riot
of
1943
the
report
of
the
commission
on
the
watch
riots
of
1965.
He
wrote
doubting
that
yet
another
report
would
make
any
difference
quote.
I
must
again
in
candor,
say
to
you,
members
of
the
commission.
It
is
a
kind
of
alice
in
wonderland,
with
the
same
moving
picture
re-shown
over
and
over
again
the
same
analysis,
the
same
recommendations
and
the
same
inaction.
L
Nor
did
they
witness
all
the
federal
consent,
decrees
and
justice
department,
justice,
department
reports
documenting
in
city
after
city,
a
pattern
in
practice
of
unconstitutional
policing,
pittsburgh
1997,
cincinnati,
2001,
detroit
2003,
new
orleans,
2010,
seattle,
2010,
cleveland,
2012,
east
haven,
connecticut,
2012,
new
york,
2013
albuquerque,
new
mexico,
2014
portland,
oregon,
2014,
baltimore,
2015.,
los
angeles,
2015,
newark,
new
york,
new
jersey,
2015
and
chicago
of
2017.,
and
I
think
that
the
only
reason
that
you
don't
see
a
couple
of
other
reports
in
this
book
is
because
it
was
it
was.
L
It
was
published
in
2017,
and
it
pains
me
to
think
that,
if
future
editions
of
of
this
book,
if,
if
we
don't
act,
if
we,
if
we
lean
into
that
legacy
of
inaction
here
in
minneapolis,
we're
gonna
see
minneapolis
2020
included
in
future
editions
of
this
book,
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
the
right
direction
for
us
to
lean
into.
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
think
that
the
source
makes
sense
every
single
budget
year
we
talk
about.
L
You
know
if
you're
going
to
be
doing
something
in
the
economic
development
realm,
then
your
amen
amendment
has
to
be
coming
from
that
pool
of
money.
If
we're
going
to
do
something
in
public
safety,
then
the
amendment
should
come
from
within
that
pool
of
money.
L
This
is
us
taking
work
off
of
mpd's
plate
and
and
and
as
councilmember
fletcher
said,
getting
a
better
return
on
those
results,
and
so
again
this
gets
us
out
of
the
rut
of
of
the
increments
that
really
haven't
gotten
us
incrementally
anywhere
and
and
I,
and
I
hope
that
my
colleagues
support
it.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
before
I
call
on
the
next
person.
I
do
just
need
to
clarify
a
couple
of
things:
council,
member
ellison.
You
asserted
that
some
people
on
this
council
feel
that
killing
of
a
human
being
by
police
is
is
acceptable
or
a
cost
of
doing
business,
and
I
have
never
ever
heard
that
from
any
member.
B
I
just
want
to
be
extra
clear
that
that
is
not
my
understanding
of
anybody
on
the
city
council
and
we
need
to
be
really
specific
with
our
words
here.
You
know.
I
want
to
point
out
that
a
lot
of
I
think
everybody
here
has
high
hopes
about
all
of
the
kind
of
good
work
going
on
and
work
group
recommendations
that
have
come
forward,
but
we
do
seem
to
disagree
on
the
appropriate
source
of
that
money,
and
that
is
what
we
will
continue
to
hear.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
before
I
really
talk
about
this
package,
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who
has
written,
called
and
shown
up
to
speak
at
this
critical
moment
in
our
city's
history
last
night
having
over
400
registered
speakers.
I
think,
speaks
to
this
moment
and
that
they
did
and
we
heard
the
thoughts.
E
The
concerns,
the
fears,
the
hopes
of
people
all
across
our
city,
and
it
was
a
powerful
moment
and
I'm
so
thankful
for
all
of
you
for
speaking
up,
I'm
thankful
for
the
work
the
community
has
done,
putting
together
the
people's
budget,
which
I'll
later
have
a
staff
direction
that
I
hope
we
can
advance
some
of
that
work.
Out
of
that,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
this
package.
I
know
they've
put
in
work
over
months
on
this.
E
My
office
has
been
involved
with
talking
with
them
about
mental
health
response
and
how
we
get
that
rolled
out,
and
I'm
excited
for
this
moment
today,
because
I
think
so
many
of
these
things
are
moving
forward
and
have
broad
support,
and
so
this
is
is
a
big
moment
for
us
today.
I
also
know
this
is
somewhat
of
an
exceptional
moment.
We
have
before
us
in
the
most
consequential
time,
probably
in
our
city's
history
and
the
most
consequential
budget,
the
largest
I've
ever
seen
package
of
amendments
together.
E
I
know
there's
questions
on
a
lot
of
this
and
you
know
I'm
really
looking
for
the
clerk's
guidance
on
how
we
would
proceed
with
these
as
we're
having
in
order
to
even
have
a
flow
of
conversation
around
this.
I
see
in
our
amendment
package
that
we
have
motion
six
motion,
four
motion,
five
that
are
related
to
this
and
they're
interrelated,
and
so,
mr
clerk,
is
it
most
logical
to
separate
this
out,
and
then
we
go
one
through
11
through
these,
and
we
can
ask
questions
and
talk
and
kind
of
take
these
up.
E
That's
what
I'm
thinking
and
just
wanted
to
talk
about
that.
I
also
understand,
though,
it's
complicated
because
it
looks
to
me
like
items
one
through
six
are
kind
of
all
interrelated.
E
In
terms
of
you
know
the
decrease
on
the
front
end
and
one
and
then
increases
in
two
through
six,
and
so
I
guess
from
a
technical
standpoint.
How
could
we
best
accomplish
that
of
moving
through
this
and
being
able
to
really
ask
questions?
Have
discussion
entertain
these
other
amendments
that
are
related
to
these
items
as
we
as
we
move
through
this
work?.
B
Council
member
help
me
understand
is
that
a
a
question
for
a
recommendation
from
the
clerk,
or
is
that.
B
M
Oh,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
You
know
I
am
a
new
council
member.
I
come
here
a
few
months
ago.
We
are
in
a
very
difficult
time,
and
I
have
seen
that
during
my
campaign
and
talking
to
residents,
people
lost
their
jobs.
M
People
feel
unsafe
people
feel
police
brutality
and
they
have
felt
that
for
24
many
years.
I
think
all
of
us
do
care
about
the
public
safety.
We
just
have
a
different
way
of
dealing
with
that
and
and
really
trying
to
help.
M
M
Because
of
the
civil
unrest
because
of
blame,
a
chronovirus
blame,
you
know
not
having
officers
enough
officers
on
on
the
street
or
having
any
strategy
of
really
dealing
with
any
dealing
with
any
way
of
public
safety.
M
M
Crimes
and
carjacking,
and
so
many
things
over
the
summer,
it's
a
different
timing
and
people
are
divided,
which
way
we're
going
to
go,
but
I
think
we
all
understand
that
we
care
about
public
safety.
We
all
care
about
alternative
way
of
helping
people.
You
call
that
alternative
policing
or
find
people
need
help,
and
we
just
have
to
come
together
to
find
a
solution.
M
Finding
that
I
do
appreciate
the
council
members
who
put
this
forward
the
work
they
have
done.
You
know
the
research
they
have
done
as
as
I
talked
to
them,
as
they
told
tell
us
and
give
us
the
presentation,
it's,
I
think,
11
items
that
we'll
we'll
discuss-
and
I
I'm
just
gonna-
really
mention
that.
Yes,
mental
health
is
very
important
to
me.
M
M
To
help
that
I
have
used
cope,
hennepin
county
program
for
many
of
my
residents
in
the
past.
That
were
dealing
with
mental
health
crisis.
They
are
facing
evictions
because
of
you
know
their
mental
health
symptoms
get
them
lease
violations
and
so
on,
and
you
know
I
was
able
to
use
that
cop
services
and
really
help
those
individuals.
M
You
know
we
don't
need
to
criminalize
those
individuals
that
are
most
vulnerable
in
our
population.
We
all
understand
that
we
just
need
to
help
them.
I
have
experience
of
mental
health.
I
have
thought
three
and
a
half
years
mental
health
first
aid
and
really
know
that
these
are
not
helpful.
M
When
we're
mental
health
goals,
they're,
not
helpful,
we
have
to
find
alternative
way.
We
have
to
it's
not
option
of
of
you
know
it's
not
an
option.
M
We
should
find
a
way,
but
we
also
need
to
talk
to
the
expertise
and
professionals
how
to
do
that,
how
to
implement
that
we
have
to
follow
the
other
cities
or
other
professional
mental
health
expertise
who
know
how
can
we
create
a
program
for
our
city
that
will
work
for
everyone,
not
a
model,
not
what
we
think
will
work,
but
this
will
work
you
know
and
we
can
throw
amounts
of
money
or
we
can
throw
a
dollar
there
and
really
say
this
will
help.
M
M
How
much
is
going
to
cost
us-
and
you
know,
taking
money
from
mpd
or
or
taking
money
here
and
there
it's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem
of
mental
health
if
we're
going
to
have
overall
mental
health
resource
for
our
city,
when
individuals
call
9-1-1
or
they
call
a
number
designated
to
them,
that
those
professionals
can
guide
those
people
that
need
help.
So
I
would
say
yes,
we
do
disagree,
some
of
where
the
source
is
coming
from.
M
M
You
know
we
don't
need
to
compromise
the
safety
for
for
people
that
are
that
have
been.
You
know,
victims
of
crimes
that
have
been
rising.
We
don't
have
to
really
put
risk
of
the
people
that
have
experienced
police
brutality.
M
M
So
we
really
have
to
think
about
think
about
that,
but
we
all
want
to
make
sure
we
are
heading
the
direction
we
all
realize.
The
need
is
there
for
for
the
most
vulnerable
population
in
in
in
our
society.
B
Thank
you,
council
member
jenkins,.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First
of
all,
I
do
want
to
just
state.
You
know
how
I
approach
this
work,
how
I
live
my
life,
how
I
approach
all
the
the
activities
that
I
engage
myself
in,
and
that
is
I
I
try
to
assume
the
best
intentions
from
everybody
until
they
prove
me
wrong
and-
and
I
I
just
hope
that
we
can
all
be
as
as
as
thoughtful
as
that
I
mean
I,
I
stepped
into
public
service,
not
to.
N
N
An
idea
of
that
their
the
cost
of
doing
business
is
the
loss
of
life.
That's
that's
just
you
know
I
don't
know,
but
at
any
rate
I
I
really
want
to
thank
the
staff
who
have
worked
tirelessly
for
months
on
end.
I'm
sure
late
nights
in
this
very
strange
covet
environment
that
we
all
are
in
to
to
bring
this
work
to
fruition
it.
It
is
a
powerful
tool
it
it
really.
N
As
I
listen
to
all
of
the
the
commenters
last
night,
our
residents,
our
constituents,
our
neighbors,
who,
who
shared
their
their
fears,
their
concerns,
their
their
deep
desire
to
see
minneapolis
become
a
city
that
is
caring
and
that
is
safe
for
everybody
that
that
lives,
works
and
and
plays
here.
It
was
really
quite
overwhelming
to
to
see
that
kind
of
response.
N
What
I
gained
from
that
is
that
there
is
a
very
strong
desire
to
to
accomplish
what
what
I
would
call
both-
and
I
think
council
member
gordon
referred
to
that
as
well
and-
and
I
think
this
this
plan
absolutely
reflects
that-
I
I
am
not
sure
that
I'm
convinced
that
we
are
going
to
see
a
15.
N
Mpd
responsibilities
immediately,
I
you
know,
having
worked
for
40
years,
I
I
know
it
takes
time
for
for
people
to
to
learn,
to
understand,
to
to
acclimate,
to
to
new
roles,
to
new
positions,
new
departments,
even
if
they're
doing
the
exact
same
thing,
it's
still
going
to
take
time
to
to
to
really
build
these
systems
out,
and
so
you
know
it
is
a
false
expectation
to
think
that
we're
going
to
see
these
kinds
of
reductions
immediately
overnight,.
N
I
and
I
get
concerned
about
the
the
responses
that
I'm
hearing
from
the
mental
health
community
and
that
they
feel
like
a
lot
of
this
work
needs
to
be
further
refined,
defined
and
and
committed
to,
but
with
that
being
said,
it
does
really
get
at
the
the
both
an
approach
you
know
to
to
council
member
ellison's
really
eloquent
statements
referring
to
past
reports.
N
One
report
that
you
didn't
mention
is
the
kerner
commission,
and
if
we,
if
we
read
that,
we
would
think
it
was
referring
to
2020
right
now
today
in
1968
it,
it
is
the
exact
same
conditions
that
we
see
today,
and
so
you
know
we
do
have
to
make
some
dramatic
changes.
I
think
everybody
in
the
city
recognizes
the
importance
of
having
a
non-lethal
response
to
mental
health
crises.
N
B
J
No,
I
did
want
to
respond
to
it,
so
I
I
thank
you.
I
thank
you
for
that.
So
there
was
a
racial
equity
impact
analysis
submitted
related
to
the
mental
health
work
for
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
meeting
on
november
5th.
So
I
do
want
to
throw
that
out
there
that
that
was
included
and
just
because
there
isn't
an
official
ria.
J
The
racial
equity
impact
analysis
with
this
as
a
formal
action
does
not
mean
that
there
was
not
a
racial
equity
analysis
applied
to
it
and
just
to
share
the
the
idea
is
like
how
are
we
investing
in
the
folks
who
are
disproportionately
impacted
and
I'm
talking
about
from
a
violence
prevention
perspective
again
and
and
being
able
to
build
from
there?
J
So
there
was
absolutely
still
a
racial
equity
analysis,
which
is
why
I
named
from
the
very
beginning
that
black
folks
are
overwhelmingly
impacted
by
community
violence,
and
then
the
other
component
is
all
of
the
various
public
safety
or
I'm
sorry.
Violence
prevention
related
work,
particularly
within
recent
history,
has
also
included
racial
equity
impact
analyses
and
that
can
be
found
on
the
act
on
the
legislative
files
related
to
the
public
health
and
safety
committee.
B
G
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
did
just
want
to
note
that
we
see
ms
larson
in
the
chat,
both
andrea
larson
and
brian
smith
are
on
the
call
of
council
members
have
any
questions.
G
I
heard
some
comments
about
not
being
sure
about
some
of
the
details,
and
I
know
maybe
council
members
haven't
had
a
chance
to
review
all
the
materials
that
came
through
committee.
But
again,
this
work
specifically
the
shifting
work
out
of
mpd
is
based
on
two
years
of
analysis.
G
That
looked
through
all
of
the
reasons
people
call
9-1-1.
It
took
a
data-driven
approach
to
identify
the
calls
based
on
an
analysis
of
call
volume.
So
what
would
be
the
impact?
How
many
calls
could
we
shift
out
of
mpd,
as
well
as
the
sort
of
difficulty
level
of
implementing
the
thing?
So,
for
example,
right
now
during
the
day,
regulatory
services
handles
parking
complaints,
but
then,
during
the
night
time,
when
police
are
very
busy,
responding
to
a
lot
of
other
different
kinds
of
calls,
mpd
does
traffic
related
complaints
at
night.
G
The
mental
health
calls
the
number
three
reason
in
the
priority
one
category
that
people
are
calling
the
all
the
you
can
look
back
and
see
really
talks
about
how
much
time
police
officers
are
spending
on
mental
health
calls
and
then
there's
an
enormous
amount
of
information
from
the
public
engagement
that
was
done
about
some
of
the
themes
that
we're
hearing
from
the
advocacy
groups
around
the
comfort
level
of
interacting
with
law
enforcement
at
all.
G
G
We
council
members
shouldn't
just
ignore
all
of
that
work
that
work
was
asked
for
and
intended
to
inform
policy
decisions
and
council
members
shouldn't
pretend
it
doesn't
exist
because
it
does,
and
so
the
idea
that
this
some
of
these
proposals
are
nice
to
have
things
in
some
far-off
future,
doesn't
reflect
the
reality
of
the
careful
work
that
we
asked
our
staff
and
volunteers
from
the
community
to
do
so.
The
time
to
just
shift
money
into
a
theoretical
idea
was
two
years
ago,
but
we
didn't
take
that
approach.
G
We
took
the
approach
of
two
years
of
careful
study
and
engagement,
resulting
in
these
very
specific
implementation,
implementation,
ready
ideas
that
are
ready
to
implement
in
2021
of
the
proposals.
The
mental
health
pilot
is
the
most
complex
we're
talking
with
the
county,
who
already
has
911
operators
embedded.
So
this
copies
a
pilot,
that's
happening
for
suburban
hennepin
county.
G
The
intention
and
ms
larson
and
mr
smith
can
speak
to
this
in
detail-
is
to
look
at
different
potential
models.
A
more
community
based
model
which
many
of
the
advocacy
organizations
are
asking
for,
or
a
more
staff
driven
model.
G
So
that's
why
it
would
be
a
pilot
in
that
first
year
for
some
of
the
pieces
of
the
mental
health
approach.
So
we
can
learn
what
works
best
in
minneapolis
based
off
of
all
of
the
examples
that
are
already
happening
in
suburban
hanukkah
county
and
in
cities
across
the
country,
and
I
also
wanted
to
ask
mr
intermil
or
folks
from
finance
or
the
coordinator's
office.
If
you
could
talk
about,
can
we
use
one-time
money
for
ftes.
B
Okay,
director
intramural,
did
you
want
to
answer
that
or.
B
F
Madam
chair
I'd
I'd
be
happy
to
provide
my
thoughts
and
certainly
welcome
our
city
coordinator
to
share
his
views
as
well.
You
know,
typically,
at
this
time
of
year,
you
will
hear
me
say
you
know,
like
a
broken
record,
we
need
to
be
using
ongoing
dollars
for
ongoing
ftes.
F
I
think
that
over
the
discussion
about
various
proposals
this
week,
I
have
heard
different
differing
views
on
sort
of
the
nature
of
the
pilot.
Is
this
a
pilot
that
is
intended
to
launch
long
term,
which
would
speak
to
an
ongoing
fte,
which
would
require
an
ongoing
funding
source?
Or
is
this
a
pilot
in
the
sense
that
we
are
going
to
try
a
discrete
body
of
work
in
a
specific
time
frame
which
would
require
hiring
a
temporary
fte?
F
In
that
second
scenario,
I
have
reached
out
to
our
human
race
human
resources
department.
Excuse
me
and
they've
indicated
that
city
civil
service
rules
do
allow
for
hiring
temporary
ftes
of
up
to
a
year
that
temporary
nature
can
be
extended
with
agreement
from
our
labor
partners
and
that
those
temporary
ftes
do
accrue
benefits
they're
eligible
for
health
insurance.
They
are
would
be
covered
by
the
state
in
the
city,
safe
and
sick
time
ordinances.
F
However,
they
would
not
be
eligible
for
vacation
or
holiday
pay,
so
you
know
if,
if
the
intent
is
to
hire
temporary
ftes,
one-time
funding
would
be
appropriate.
F
F
You
know
again
that
that
is
best
practice,
and
I
do
recognize
that
in
in
this
year
of
all
years,
best
practice
may
not
be
attainable.
So
that's
those
are
generally
the
the
thoughts
from
the
budget
office
in
terms
of
fun
alignment
of
funding
with
our
staffing.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
goodman,.
O
Thank
you,
madam
president.
I
didn't
sign
up
to
respond
to
anything
anyone
said
I
was
just
wondering
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
the
request
to
separate
the
various
points
of
this
I'm
happy
to
have
an
up
or
down
vote,
but
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
pieces
of
this
that
I
would
really
want
to
vote
for,
but
probably
not
the
whole
thing,
because
for
me
it's
not
about
whether
or
not
we
should
or
shouldn't
do
a
different
mental
health
response.
O
We
absolutely
should,
and
it's
not
about
whether
or
not
I
object
to
moving
some
things
that
are
currently
in
the
police
department
to
other
departments,
because
I
do
it's
about
how
it's
funded
and
I
mean
come
on.
Everyone
knows
what
this
is
about.
This
is
like
semantic
game.
We're
playing
here.
Let's
just
get
to
it:
let's
either
separate
or
not
vote
up,
vote
down,
look
at
the
alternatives,
rather
than
continuing
to
try
to
make
a
point
that
we
can
better
make
in
the
context
of
each
of
these
individual
issues.
O
O
I
read
through
everything
that
I
was
sent.
I
thought
it
was
a
really
good
analysis
and
I
don't
think
anyone
on
the
council
at
this
moment
objects
to
these
early,
but
important
changes
that
we
want
to
make.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
unanimity
surrounding
that,
and
so
it's
really
just
a
question
of
how
it's
going
to
be
funded
and
there's
a
difference
of
opinion
about
that,
and
we've
all
talked
about
that
over
the
past
week
in
individual
conversations.
O
So
just
trying
to
pull
us
together
here
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
either
have
on
this
up
or
down
or
separate
it
and
play
it
out,
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
to
that
vote
today.
Thank
you,
ma'am.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
I
do
want
to
point
out,
so
there's
been
a
request
to
separate
those
are
usually
honored.
I
I
have
more
things
to
say.
I
realized
I
put
myself
in
queue
and
then
didn't
call
on
myself,
but
council
member
gordon
you've
put
some
things
in
the
chat,
but
I
think
that,
if
you
want
to
does
anybody
here
want
to
object
to
separating
this.
H
H
It
would
be
interesting
to
get
a
poll
of
my
things
on
who
would
fund
what
irregardless
of
source
right.
So
number,
two,
I
think,
is
the
mental.
It's
not
in
front
of
me,
but
mental
health
responders
who
likes
the
idea
without
knowing
the
source
that
would
be
interest,
because
how
could
we
vote
to
increase
the
expense?
H
Micah
would
have
a
fit
increase
the
expense
budget
in
the
health
department
without
saying
where
we're
getting
it
from,
but
we
could
vote
on
number
two
all
alone
and
see
what
happens,
but
then
we'd
still
have
work.
To
finish,
you
understand
what
I'm
saying.
B
I
do
council
member,
I
I
would
suggest
actually
what
councilmember
cunningham
has
already
put
in
the
chat
and
as
a
start
of
what
he
said.
I
would
suggest
that
perhaps
we
take
items
one
through
six
together
because
item
one
funds,
two
three,
four
five
and
six.
B
And
mr
carl,
you
said
that
you
seemed
to
want
to
say
something
and
then
said
never
mind.
How
would
you
does
that
sound
appropriate
from
your
perspective
that
we
could
perhaps
take
the
first
part
of
this
motion,
which
would
be
one
through
six?
We
could
have
any
questions
or
thoughts
around
it
and
then
take
a
vote
on
it.
P
Madam
chair,
I
was,
I
was
only
going
to
offer
that
yes,
a
question
can
be
divided.
I
did
consult
with
the
budget
director
offline.
It
appears
that
items
one
through
six
as
councilmember
cunningham
has
suggested,
are
related
part.
One
is
basically
grabbing
the
money
and
reallocating
it
to
components.
Two
three,
four
five
and
six
item
number
seven
is
a
self-contained
item
that
grabs
certain
funds
and
reallocates
them.
Item
number.
Eight
is
a
separate
proposition.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
I
mean
I,
I
have
no
opposition
to
do
breaking
it
up,
especially
if
that's
okay
with
the
authors,
I
I
do
think
this
proposal,
and
maybe
I
should
just
start
out
just
by
thanking
the
authors
for
all
the
time
that
they've
put
in
a
lot
of
this
just
plays
off
of
each
other,
with
a
focus
on
reducing
crime
and
getting
people
the
help
they
need.
You
know
for
me
looking
at
this
proposal,
it
really
expands
our
public
safety
system,
and
that
is
what
we've
heard
throughout
the
city.
A
Business
as
usual
is
just
not
working
for
anybody,
something
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
have
heard
as
well.
What
I
hear
here
in
ward
11
is
that
community
members
are
about
are
concerned
about
crime
and
safety,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
police
presence,
as
well
as
the
fear
of
police.
The
people
of
minneapolis
deserve
a
better
than
a
one-size-fits-all
approach
to
public
safety,
and
I
really
think
this
whole
proposal
together
gets
there.
A
We
should
always
be
sending
the
best
trained
responders
to
any
given
situation
and
changes
like
this
will
free
up
our
police
and
deal
with
the
most
urgent,
serious
crime
right
now,
with
numerous
branches
of
numerous
breaches
of
trust
between
the
public
and
mpd,
the
latest
of
which
being
the
murder
of
george
floyd.
We
really
need
to
be
proactive
and
intentional
about
how
we're
solving
these
problems
before
they
cause
more
harm
to
our
communities.
A
I
think
our
needs
have
evolved
and
our
public
safety
system
needs
to
evolve
as
well.
So
again,
I
think
we
can
go
line
by
line
if
that's
where
my
colleagues
are,
but
I
really
think
it
it
loses
something
by
not
looking
at
this
as
a
whole.
B
Thank
you.
I
do
appreciate
that
and
I
I
do
think
that,
on
the
whole
I'm
hearing
and
have
heard
for
many
weeks,
general
agreement
to
do
these
things,
I
think
that
there's
a
misunderstanding.
B
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
note
you
referenced
this
item
before
because
of
my
question.
That
was
responding
some
comments,
but
I
I
do
think
those
comments
were
responding
to
emotion,
that's
coming
later
and
actually
there's
a
couple
that
are
related,
and
so
I've
heard
basically
every
council,
member
or
many
council
members
say
I
support
this,
just
not
the
source.
G
So
are
these
intended
to
come
as
amendments
to
the
to
the
source
or
because
I
think
it's
a
little
odd
for
the
public
to
hear
us
talking
about
the
sort
of
unnamed
I
mean
we
should
just
have
the
conversation
about
the
alternative
sources
that
folks
are
are
planning
to
propose
because
it
really
does
have
a
very
dramatic
impact
on
the
potential
success
of
the
real
proposal
that
we
have
made
so.
B
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
the
difficulty
in
going
through
and
amending
an
11
part
amendment
with
different
types
of
substitutions
and
such
is
that
it's
a
very
complex
motion
given
that
we're
all
in
a
very
distributed
environment
that
seems
relatively
difficult
to
achieve.
It's
not
just
swapping
one
piece
out
for
another.
I.
G
Was
specific,
I
was
specifically
referring
to
what
you
just
talked
about,
which
is
what
items
one
through
six,
which
has
the
source
that
it
looks
like
the
other
amendments
are
looking
to
essentially
amend
as
referenced
by
you
know.
Seven
council
members
during
this
conversation.
B
Right,
so
I
think
we
need
to
stay
on
the
motion
at
hand
which,
which
sort
of
precludes
us
from
talking
about
everything.
Together,
though,
I
would
love
to
talk
about
everything
together.
The
alternative
here
in
parts
one
through
six
is
to
instead
create
a
fund,
create
a
fund
that
does
not
slow
down
the
timing
of
implementation
of
these
of
these
ideas
for
things
for
recommendations
that
come
out
of
the
911
mpd
work
group.
B
That
includes
recommendations
that
might
come
out
of
our
efforts
with
the
department
of
human
rights
and
it
doesn't
take
away
from
or
specifically
name
other
public
safety
ideas
that
might
be
coming
from
the
public
or
the
community
over
this
year
of
listening
to
community
and
community
engagement
that
we've
promised.
So
some
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
named
in
in
conversation
here
was
a
concern
with
race
equity
analysis,
which
is
something
that
comes
back
when
things
come
back
through
our
council
cycle
in
a
council
process
as
a
formal
race
equity.
B
Look
at
how
things
how
new
programs
that
we
implement
would
be
done,
and
while
we
appreciate
that
there's
been
race,
equity
work
in
some
pieces
of
this
process,
we
haven't
looked
at
it
as
a
whole
and
there
is
just
general
concern
about
if
things
are
ready.
B
What
I
am
hearing
from
the
budget
director
is
that
items
one
through
six
are
one
funding
source
that
for
you
for
this
amendment
number
three
and
these
authors
break
things
up
in
some
different
ways.
B
An
alternative
to
that
would
be
this
motion,
for
which
doesn't
specifically
name
all
of
the
things
and
only
the
things
that
would
be
funded
through
it,
but
invites
other
ideas.
It
invites
there
to
be
more
money
for
some
of
the
ideas
that
you
have
in
amendment
number
three,
without
necessarily
having
to
tie
down
an
exact
number
and
figure
at
this
point
in
time.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
think
that,
from
from
my
standpoint
and
in
brief
conversation
with
our
city
clerk,
it
would
be
appropriate
to
combine
items
one
through
six
of
this
amendment.
Three,
that's
before
you
right
now,
and
you
know,
compare
those
against
the
amendment
number
four,
the
paul
masano
jenkins
amendment.
That
is
next
in
queue.
You
know,
even
though
those
two
items
are
not
equal.
F
As
you
said,
they
are
both
the
one
through
six
package
of
amendment
three
and
all
of
amendment
four
are
both
internally
balanced
and
though
they
speak
too
many
of
the
same
things.
F
They
are
not
entirely
overlapping,
so
items
one
through
six
of
amendment
number
three
also
include
expansion
of
staffing
and
programming
in
the
office
of
violence
prevention,
whereas
the
amendment
number
four
speaks
more
broadly
to
creating
a
pilot
fund
to
be
able
to
pilot
many
of
the
initiatives
of
the
911
mpd
workgroup
or
the
the
recommendations
from
the
minnesota
department
of
human
rights
and
the
other
primary
difference
between
the
two
would
be
the
funding.
B
Thank
you,
there's
other
components
of
motion
number
four
to
speak
to
today.
One
of
them
would
be
putting
in
a
future
financial
direction
for
ongoing
funding
for
the
mental
health
pilot
and
those
kinds
of
things,
but
wanting
to
stick
to
and
honor
the
safety
for
all
amendment,
because
it
has
had
so
much
discussion,
including
last
night,
in
the
public
hearing.
B
Perhaps
I
will
just
continue
through
the
queue
and
make
sure
that
I
am
hearing,
but
I
think
we
are
at
this
point
in
time
discussing
parts
one
through
six
of
amendment
number
three
council,
member
schrader,
I
had
thought
that
you
were
done
before,
but
did
you
still
have
things
to
add.
A
Yes,
I
do
madam
chair
one
just.
I
know
that
my
amendment
that's
coming
up
in
number.
Six
does
directly
speak
to
number
one
through
six.
I
know
that
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
that
a
lot
of
the
issue
really
is
where
the
money
is
coming
from,
and
I
offered
number
six
as
as
a
middle
ground
compromise.
You
know.
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
will
allow
our
officers
to
remain
responsive
in
the
next
year,
but
also
add
critical
accountability
and
transparency.
A
I
think
that
this
amendment,
if
we
take
this
right
now
as
we're
looking
at
number
one
through
six,
is
a
way
to
head
to
really
kind
of
bring
people
together
to
have
this
be
a
solution
that
is
going
to
work
for
everybody
that
is
going
to
do
what
I
keep
hearing
about
the
the
both
and
of
being
able
to
one
make
sure
that
we
have
officers
out
there
now,
but
as
and
then
be
very
clear
about
committing
to
this
new
path
of
making
sure
that
we
have
an
alternative
to
the
police
and
every
response
and
what
I
would
add
to
that
both
and
that
really
hasn't
come
up.
A
That
much
is
accountability.
You
know
that
is
something
for
me
that
has
completely
been
missing.
We
had
an
officer
officer,
chavin
sit
on
the
neck
of
george
floyd,
and
that
that
that
was
our
officer.
You
know
we
need
to
be
able
to
hear
what
mpd
has
been
doing,
what
they're
doing
to
hold
themselves
more
accountable
and
how
they're
able
to
to
work
with
their
officers
to
help
make
sure
we
have.
You
know
the
police
force
and
the
protection
we
we
all
want
and
deserve
in
this
city.
A
B
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I
need
to
go
back
to
council
member
johnson
council
member
johnson.
I'm
sorry,
I
must
have
lost
you
in
the
queue
before.
E
No
worries-
and
I
I'm
this
actually
my
first
time
with
the
headphones.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay
on
this
okay,
I
thought
it
might
get
better
quality
with
this.
So
we're
talking
about
one
through
six.
You
know
everyone
keeps
talking
about.
The
source
is
really
the
key
component
here,
the
the
questions
that
it's
revolving
around,
and
so
you
know
I
I
would
be
very
disappointed
if
we
did
not
move
two
through
six
today
and
so
really.
E
My
questions
are
focused
on
the
source
here
and
also
just
talking
through
these
kind
of
competing
ideas
around
source
as
well,
and
so
maybe
I'll
skip
over
a
right
now,
but
talk
about
b,
c
and
d
just
to
get
more
information,
so
b,
230
000
from
contractual
service
accounts
in
the
mounted
patrol
unit,
I
sent
an
email
to
mpd
our
liaison
asking
for
what
the
impact
would
be.
I
have
not
heard
back
is
somebody
from
mpd
on
the
line
that
can
help
us
understand?
E
Q
Share
paul
masano:
this
is
robin
mcpherson
finance
director
for
the
mpd.
Thank
you
and
yes,
I
am,
and
I'm
on
my
phone,
so
I
apologize
if
the
connection's
not
that
great,
and
I
would
ask
that
the
chief
who
I
believe
is
on
the
line
as
well
jump
in
from
an
operational
standpoint
too.
If
I
miss
anything,
the
230
thousand
dollars
basically
takes
into
consideration
that
the
rent
that
we
pay
out
that's
at
the
stable.
Q
The
the
dollar
amount
that
is
quoted
here,
I'm
a
little
fuzzy
on
when
I
look
into
our
records,
and
so
that's
something
that
I've
had
asked
for
from
the
budget
department
just
an
hour
ago
when
I
saw
this,
so
I
can't
quote
everything,
but
those
are
the
big
basic
points
of
this
that
we
would
lose
those
dollars
so
for
all
intents
and
purposes
assuming,
and
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
replace
those
dollars
from
another
fund
that
would
likely
be
the
end
of
the
amount
of
patrol.
E
E
How
much
is
that,
right
now
the
total
amount
of
patrol.
Q
The
amount
of
control
right
now,
I
believe,
is
right
around
just
under
dollars.
800
total,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
that
is
personnel.
Their
portion
of
that
is
personnel
and
those
would
be
moved
to
other
places
and
then
another
portion
of
it
is
allocated
service
charges
which
again
would
be
moved
to
other
places
within
the
mpd.
Q
So
the
true
savings
on
here
from
assuming
this
number,
this
230
is
correct.
The
the
savings
would
be
230
000..
What
this
doesn't
look
like
it
takes
into
consideration
and
which
is
why
I
wanted
some
of
the
backup
is
that
the
stable,
actually
the
contract
that
we
have,
which
is
which,
which
is
with
the
shriners
this
the
contract,
has
a
thousand
dollar
penalty
clause
for
breaking
the
lease
early.
So
on
top
of
this
230
we
would
be
paying
out.
Then
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
fee
for
breaking
the
contract.
E
Thank
you,
and
maybe
this
is
more
directed
at
the
chief,
but
could
you
share
the
operational
case
for
having
a
mounted
patrol
unit?
I
mean
we've
talked
about
a
lot
of
things
with
police.
I
haven't
really
gotten
into
discussion
or
details
about
the
mounted
patrol,
so
this
is
learning
for
me
and
hopefully
for
those
that
are
watching
in
the
public,
so
that
we
can
just
better
understand
this
and
the
impact
being
proposed
here.
R
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
councilmember
johnson,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
the
question
mona
patrol.
Certainly
here
in
minneapolis
and
around
the
country
have
been
a
part
of
operations
to
really
two
fronts.
One
is
certainly
for
any
sorts
of
large-scale
large-scale
events
as
well
as
disturbances.
R
You
know
six
mounted
patrol
officers
and
their
horses
can
certainly
move
and
direct
crowds
oftentimes
more
effectively
than,
and
also
obviously,
it's
resource
intensive.
If
you
have
to
have
a
hundred
plus
officers
to
do
that,
we've
used
them
in
everything
from
aquatennial
parades
to
to
again
to
to
demonstrations,
and
what
have
you?
We've
also
used
them
in
terms
of
public
relations
too.
R
Some
may
recall
armada
patrols,
whether
they're
going
through
and
doing
community
service
or
beats
along
broadway
avenue
or
nicklett
mall
schools
have
come
out
during
open
houses
and
those
types
of
things.
So
it's
also
been
both
part
of
operational
for
for
large-scale
events,
as
well
as
public
relations
in
terms
of
building
relationships
with
our
communities
and
so
minneapolis,
along
with
other
departments
across
the
country,
have
utilized
the
expertise
of
these
mounted
riders
to
help
us
under
those
circumstances.
E
Gotcha
thanks
for
answering
that
question,
others
might
have
follow
up
on
that
one
specifically,
but
I
guess
I
can
move
on
from
that.
I
mean
I
will
say
when
you
think
about
the
utilization
of
it.
It's
it
seems
like
it's
something
that
is
used
for
special
cases
more
so
than
kind
of
like
a
day
by
day.
So
there
is
that
trade-off.
E
Obviously,
like
you
mentioned
chief
of
you'd,
have
six
additional
or
you'd
have
six
officers
on
mounted
horses
versus,
perhaps
like
a
hundred
other
officers,
which
is
obviously
more
resource
intensive,
but
then
there's
a
trade-off
kind
of
on
the
time
element
too
around
that
to
think
of
so
good
information
to
have
and
to
think
through
on
item
1c,
this
230
thousand
dollar
reduction
of
the
co-responder
program
I
would
like.
E
Maybe
the
authors
could
help
me
understand
this
a
little
better,
because
my
understanding
is
that
this
is
for
specifically
a
use
case
where
you
have
somebody
experiencing
a
mental
health
crisis
and
they
may,
for
instance,
be
armed
with
a
weapon
that
sort
of
thing,
and
so
you
know
we
do
have
a
co-responder
program.
This
is
about
expansion
of
that.
E
So
I
guess
the
question
in
my
mind,
is
if
this
item
is
eliminated,
does
that
mean
for
these
very
tenuous
circumstances,
when
we
have
an
incident
like
that
that
we
would
essentially
be
then
only
sending
officers
rather
than
sending
officers
with
mental
health
professionals
that
might
better
be
able
to
help
de-escalate
the
situation?
It's
can.
I
understand
the
thinking
more
on
that
from
the
authors.
K
So
we
did
not
cut
the
co-responder
program
that
exists,
because
we
know
there's
going
to
be
a
ramp
up
period
and
we
don't
want
to
end
up
without
a
mental
health
response.
We
do
see
something
positive
about
the
correspondent
model
as
as
a
step
into
mental
health
response,
but
eventually
we
do
see
the
mental
health
response
that
we're
implementing
this
year
as
a
replacement
for
the
co-responder
model.
The
goal
is
not
to
have
corresponders
and
mental
health
response,
but
to
have
a
mental
health
response.
K
They
can
call
for
backup
and
that
can
collaborate
with
npd
where
npd
is
sent
to
a
call,
so
that
so
that
they're
working
hand-in-hand,
just
in
the
same
way
that
ems
and
mpd
call
each
other
when
they
need
each
other
fire
and
mpd
call
each
other
when
they
need
each
other.
The
idea
is,
the
mental
health
gets
separated
out.
K
So
we
did
not
cut
the
existing
correspondence
because
we
we
want
there
to
be
a
smooth
transition
where
there's
not
a
gap
in
service,
but
we
did
think
that
it
was
a
better
use
of
the
money
to
expand
the
correspondent
model,
since
we
frankly
envisioned
once
we've
got
proof
of
concept
we're
out
in
the
field
and
have
data
to
support
that.
That
model
is
working,
that
we
would
that
we
would
phase
out
the
correspondent
model
entirely.
K
I
think
the
idea
here
is
that
you
know
if
you
there's
such
a
small
number
of
calls,
where
there
would
be
danger
involved
where
you
would
need
to
send
an
armed
response.
It's
a
very
small
percentage
of
the
edp
calls,
and
so
there
would
not
be
enough
of
a
call
volume
to
justify
having
a
separate
program
for
those
calls.
K
So
the
idea
is
really
to
create
a
collaboration
between
a
new
unarmed
mental
health
response,
and
you
know
for
mpd
to
be
able
to
work
with
them,
so
they
can
handle
the
variety
of
calls
that
come
in.
E
E
Can
you
help
me
understand
or
kind
of
talk
through
what
would
that
look
like
between
this
pilot,
which
is
going
to
be
limited
in
terms
of
its
time
and
inability
to
do
that
coverage
right?
I
believe,
there's
some
limits
around
coverage
from
the
pilot
versus
that
longer
term,
where
once
we
have
fully
expanded
rolled
out,
city-wide
24
7
coverage
that
then
we
have
that
kind
of
piece.
You
talked
about
where
mental
health
responders
can
sync
up
with
officers
separately.
Am
I
thinking
about
that
right?
E
K
Sure
happy
to
happy
to
clarify.
So
there
was
a
presentation
at
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
where
they
proposed
a
more
modest
version
of
the
pilot
that
would
be
more
limited
and
what
we
realized
is
we
looked
at?
What
kind
of
data
would
we
gather
and
how
valuable
would
that
experiment
be?
K
We
realized
that
it
made
more
sense
to
roll
on
a
more
comprehensive
way,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
wouldn't
capture,
for
example,
is
that
we
know
there's
some
population
of
people
who
currently
do
not
call
911
because
they're
not
wanting
to
invite
an
armed
law
enforcement
response
and
if
we
said
only
some
of
the
calls
are
going
to
get
the
pilot
at
some
times
a
day
and
it
was
hard
to
keep
track
of.
K
We
think
those
folks
would
still
not
call
911,
so
we
wouldn't
get
an
accurate
representation
of
how
the
program
would
actually
work,
and
so
the
decision
was
made
and
what
we've
proposed
in
our
funding
is
something
that
gets
to
mobile
mental
health
teams
per
share
and
so
the
and
and
and
has
24
7
coverage.
And
so
that's
actually
a
very
comprehensive
program.
We
think
that
in
most
cases
that's
going
to
be
enough.
K
Certainly
you
know
if
four
incidents
happened
right
at
the
same
time,
that
would
create
some
overflow,
the
mpd
or
other
responders
would
need
to
backstop.
But
that's
a
staffing
level
that
we
think
actually
might
be
adequate
and
one
of
the
learnings
from
the
pilot
will
be.
Is
it
adequate
or
do
we
need
to
actually
have
a
third
team
on
one
shift
or
or
more
or
less
so
that's
part
of
the
learning,
but
but
this
is
actually
a
fairly
comprehensive
implementation
and
it
is
not
intended
to
be
time
limited.
K
It
is
intended
to
be
implemented
with
continuous
evaluation
and
learning
and
and
adjustment,
but
we
are
not
viewing
this
as
a
pilot
that
we
would
do
for
a
limited
amount
of
time
and
then
stop
and
evaluate
and
then
roll
it
back
out.
We
think
this
is
something
that
the
public
has
been
asking
for,
that
we've
been
studying
that
it's
time
to
get
it
going.
E
E
They've
done
a
lot
of
research
in
this
field,
and
so
that,
when
I
saw
this
on
here,
I
gotta
say
it
gave
me
pause
because
of
that,
because
there
have
been
advocates
really
for
these
kind
of
alternative
responses,
and-
and
I
know
that
that
kind
of
came
out
of
those
conversations
I
had
with
them.
G
Can
I
just
jump
in
very
quickly
yeah
fill
up
on
what
customer
fletcher
said,
so
this
proposal
is
responding
to
the
advocates.
Who've
asked
for
less
law
enforcement
related
to
mental
health
response.
So
the
advocates
that
council
members
have
referenced
as
evidence
that
this
isn't
ready
to
implement
are
asking
us
to
even
further
reduce
the
amount
of
law
enforcement
or
related
even
emt,
related
staff
that
are
part
of
this
program
to
have
a
hundred
percent
purely
only
mental
health
response,
and
so
that
is
something
that
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
them.
G
But
my
understanding
is
not
that
not
all
the
sort
of
staff
who've
been
involved
in
this
very
careful
long
process
were
comfortable
with.
So
I
think
the
idea
was
to
try
that
out
and
to
also
try
out
some
of
the
more
established
programs
like
the
cope
program
at
the
county,
which
does
have
more
partnership
with
law
enforcement.
G
Customer
cunningham
mentioned
social.
Read
that
the
co-responders
don't
respond
to
the
kinds
of
calls
that
you
were
talking
about.
They
are
really
a
mental
health
service
call
that
includes
law
enforcement
today,
but
they
don't
go
to
calls
that
are
perceived
to
be
any
kind
of
dangerous
situation
and
it
felt
like
I
had
one.
G
So
with
the
counties
pilot
that
they
have
had
ongoing
for
what
you
call
911
in
suburban
hennepin,
county
they've
had
really
great
success
with
this,
because
some
of
those
calls
can
just
be
handled
over
the
phone
and
also
there
they
have
the
expertise
to
really
assess.
So
one
of
the
things
that
why
it's
called
a
pilot,
even
though
it
is
intended
to
be
an
ongoing
commitment
to
mental
health
service,
is
there's
a
question
how
many
911
operators
should
we
have
that?
Are
mental
health
trained
this
also.
G
Our
proposal
also
includes
training
for
all
of
the
mental
health.
Sorry,
excuse
me
all
of
the
911
operators
will
be
answering
the
phone.
So
it's
a
question
of.
Where
is
the
investment
the
best
so
that
when
you,
when
you
call
911
point
with
the
city
that
you're
getting
the
very
best
service,
if
you're
calling
with
a
mental
health
call.
E
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
know
madam
chair,
I'm
being
cognizant
of
time.
There
are
a
lot
of
questions
around
this.
I
think
they're
important
questions
to
ask.
I
could
try
to
just
focus
on
a
now
or
I
do
want
to
speak
to
d
as
well,
though-
and
I
just
want
to
be
cognizant
of
time
too,
because
I
know
that
others
are
interested
in
chatting
and
I
I
don't
want
to
go
on
for
30
minutes
straight,
so
any
advice,
I'm
happy
to
step
back
and
then
circle
back.
Let
us.
B
Ask
questions:
I
have
council,
member,
gordon
fletcher
and
bender
in
q.
If
you
want
to
take
yourselves
out
of
cue,
because
you
have
been
speaking
in
response
to
some
of
these
questions,
please
go
ahead
in
the
chat,
but
I'm
going
to
just
ask
that
we
get
through
your
your
questions,
councilmember
johnson,
so
I
would
say:
go
ahead.
E
And
finish,
thank
you
so
for
item
1d
around
this
early
intervention
system.
You
know
this
is
one
of
these
ones
where
you
know
it
all
comes
down
to
how
it
is
executed
in
the
details
of
this,
because
it
is
a
good
idea
to
have
good
data
going
into
a
system
for
identifying
problematic,
behavior
of
officers
being
able
to
intervene
and
hold
them
accountable
and,
and
it
all
comes
down
to,
though,
do
you
have
good
data
going
in
and
is
there
accountability?
And
so
you
know
if
done
right.
E
This
can
be
a
very
valuable
tool,
and
so
I
guess
you
know
in
this
moment
where
having
data
on
officer
behavior
is
important
and
you
know
the
chief
is
asking
for
this.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
hear
maybe
the
chief's
vision
around
this
and
how
he
can
respond
to
some
of
those
kind
of
concerns
around.
E
R
Chief,
yes,
chair,
palmitano,
customer
johnson,
so
eis,
obviously
early
intervention
system
is,
is
certainly
something
that
I
advocate
for
and
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
this
performance
management
tool
at
our
disposal
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
spoken
about
in
the
past
year.
R
Is
that
really
having
a
robust
data
analytic
software
to
do
this
to
track
this
real
time
is
important,
as
opposed
to
oftentimes,
just
relying
upon
that
particular
supervisor
who
may
get
transferred
at
some
point
or
the
officer
goes
to
another
assignment
or
unit,
but
but
I,
but
I
will
also
say
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
industry
has
found
that
it's
helpful
is
when
it's
not
necessarily
attached
to
discipline
or
the
perception
of
discipline.
R
This
is
a
performance
management
tool,
and
so
it
is
also
important
for
those
folks
who
are
working
with
those
employees
who
who
know
some
of
the
nuances
to
the
industry.
It's
important
that
it
stays
in
their
shop.
I've
I
just
I
think
it
would
be
it
is.
It
is
very
different.
Most
of
these
performance
management
tools-
oftentimes-
don't
transfer
that
that
mechanism
of
of
monitoring
to
another
agency
that
may
not
necessarily
know
all
the
nuances
to
the
job
to
the
work.
R
It
is
something
that
I
would
certainly
want
to
have
a
conversation,
and
I
I
don't
want
to
make
any
assumptions
here,
but
I
would
certainly
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
the
directors
of
a
civil
rights
unit
to
see
one
if,
if
they're
familiar
with
that
type
of
programming
and
performance
management,
how
much
that
would
add
to
their
plate.
But
again
it
is
not.
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
It
is
not
something
that
is
supposed
to
be
looked
upon
as
disciplinary
as
it
was
mentioned
earlier.
R
These
are
things
to
look
at
an
employee
to
to
help
support
them.
If
it's
coaching,
if
it's
training
those
types
of
things-
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
really
creates
the
buy-in
from
the
the
rank
and
file-
is
that
it's
looked
upon
purely
as
a
performance
management
tool,
and
so
I
have
not
had
conversations
obviously
with
our
in-depth
conversations
with
the
civil
rights
folks
to
see
one.
R
If
that
is
something
that
they'd
be
able
to
take
on
the
capacity
to
do
that,
and-
and
I
would
still
again-
I
would
have
some
some
caution
about
transferring
that
from
the
police
department
if
we
are
the
ones
who
are
supposed
to
be
monitoring
that
performance
management
and
and
then
the
perception
that
it
could
be
viewed
as
disciplinary
when
it's
truly
about
enhancing
employee
performance.
E
B
This
is
a
little
unusual
and
that
we're
asking
the
authors
to
to
respond
to
these
questions,
despite
there
being
a
cue
for
other
things,
but
I
think
this
is
the
best
way
to
do
it.
I
see
council,
member,
cunningham
and
or
fletcher
wanting
to
respond
to
that
go
ahead.
J
Yes,
I'll
just
briefly
say
that
this
item
actually
creates
two
fte
in
the
office
of
police
conduct
review.
It
does
not
move
the
eis
to
the
civil
rights
department
to
do
so,
but
I
will
pass
it
over
to
council
member
fletcher
as
well,
and
I
will
just
note
that
these
these
new
positions
will
be
focused
on
hiring
multilingual
investigators
that
are
desperately
needed
in
in
the
office
of
police
conduct
review.
But
I
will
turn
it
over
to
council
member
fletcher
to
see
if
there's
anything
that
I
missed
in
that
or
misspoke.
K
K
K
I
think
in
the
meantime,
we
have
some
much
more
urgent
disciplinary
and
oversight
gaps
to
fill,
and
so
it
made
sense
to
give
opcr
the
investigators
that
they
need
in
the
short
term,
and
I
actually
think
that
this
is
something
we
probably
support
in
future
years.
I
just
I,
I
don't
think
that
we're
ready
to
take
full
advantage
of
it.
Yet
until
we
have
more
of
like
you
said,
the
accountability
and
discipline
in
place
that
I
think
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
community
feedback
that
they
want
to
see
improved.
E
Thank
you,
councilmember
fletcher,
and
you
know
I'm
asking
these
questions
publicly,
because
I
think
it's
really
important.
A
lot
of
people
are
paying
attention
they're,
watching
what
we're
doing
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
this
proposal
which,
by
the
way,
speaks
to
how
the
authors
put
months
into
this,
and
I
think
this
really
deserves
discussion
and
kind
of
expanding
some
of
these,
because
when
you
see
just
a
little
line
item
it
says
eliminating
the
early
intervention
system
or
or
the
contractual
service
accounts
in
mounted
patrol.
E
It's
like
what's
the
impact
that
that
could
potentially
have
what's
the
thinking
around
it.
I
think
that's
important
to
have
that
publicly
out
here
and
this
really
consequential
moment
and
then
finally,
just
on
I
know
I
saved
it
for
last,
because
I
think
it's
probably
the
biggest
topic
but
item
1a.
This
idea
of
500
000
from
overtime
within
mpd.
E
I
know
there's
literally
two
different
amendments.
Councilmember
schrader
spoke
to
his
around
that.
I
know
that
there's
maybe
not
a
perfect
translatable
amendment,
but
a
related
amendment
that
council
member
of
homosano
has
there's
this
news
that
came
out
today
around
the
philanthropic
community.
Saying:
hey
we're
setting
aside
five
million
dollars
as
well
and
kind
of
it
sounds
like
maybe
the
expectation
is
without
any
cuts
to
police.
E
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
contingent
thing,
and
so
maybe
there's
somebody
from
the
mayor's
office
that
could
or
who's
been
involved
in
those
conversations
that
could
speak
to
that.
But
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at
is
that
I
think
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
recognize
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
need
for
more
overtime
than
what
we
have
had
in
the
budget.
E
Historically,
given
the
attrition
issues
that
we
face
in
being
down
a
pretty
significant
number
of
officers
over
the
last
six
months,
the
chief
has
certainly
had
the
leverage
over
time
he's
gone
over
budget
on
overtime.
So
I
think,
there's
a
recognition,
there's
going
to
be
more
use
of
that
over
time,
and
then
there's
also
this
thought
of
you
know.
Could
you
have
as
an
alternative,
and
I
believe
this
is
in
the
the
spirit
of
council
member
pomisano's
motion,
this
idea
of
a
10
million
dollar
fund
for
this
work.
E
Five
million
coming
from,
I
believe,
interest
earnings
on
investments,
or
something
like
that
that
maybe
we
could
hear
from
either
councilmember
palmisano
or
micah
on
coupled
with
this
philanthropic
funding,
and
that
could
actually
advance
a
lot
more
work.
And
so
I
think
that's
really
where
a
lot
of
the
conversation
will
probably
end
up
over
the
next
few
speakers.
Is
this
question
of
the
different
trade-offs
by
looking
at
these
different
sources
of
funding
around
that
5
million,
specifically
in
probably
some
of
these
other
components.
E
But
how
do
we
really
maximize
the
outcome
of
driving
this
work
around
transforming
public
safety?
How
do
we
get
even
more
pilots
off
the
ground,
and
is
there
a
way
to
kind
of
achieve
this,
both
and
in
in
better
fashion
through
some
of
these
different
ideas
around
the
sources?
E
So
I
want
to
throw
that
out
there,
and
I
guess,
madam
chair,
whoever
should
speak
on
that,
whether
it's
micah
on
the
details
around
kind
of
your
thinking
on
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
probably
hear
from
somebody
involvement
conversations
with
these
outside
private
commitments
of
five
million
plus
dollars
and
kind
of
what
the
what
the
intents
are,
their
intentions
and
how
that's
accessed.
And
what
that
looks
like
structurally
and
those
kind
of
pieces
as
well.
B
That
would
be
great
if
this
were
just
an
open
discussion.
I
hear
you
and
would
like
to
be
able
to
put
all
of
these
pieces
together,
because
I
know
that
people
are
all
excited
about
this
work.
It's
just
a
difference,
for
it
is
a
difference
in
in
large
part
about
the
funding.
I
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
clerk
is
reminding
me
to
please
call
a
15-minute
warning
before
we
need
to
adjourn
next
in
queue.
B
We
have
council,
member,
gordon
fletcher,
bender
and
then
cunningham
and
after
that
I
think
we're
probably
going
to
need
to
adjourn
without
actually
voting
on
this
today.
I
want
to
also
point
out
that
something
suggested
to
me
by
the
clerk
this
morning
when
we
were
having
trouble
ordering
these
amendments
and
coming
up
with
a
a
good
flow
of
conversation,
as
he
suggested
that
we
should
be
prepared
to
reserve
monday
afternoon
for
further
budget
markup,
there's
a
very
long
council
meeting
tomorrow
and
then
there's
budget
markup
in
the
afternoon
right
now.
B
There
are
no
public
meetings
on
monday
afternoon.
Officially,
it
might
require
some
individual
adjustments,
but
I'm
going
to
suggest
we
just
keep
going
through
the
queue
here
and
then
maybe
discuss
with
authors
that
maybe
we
pivot
to
some
of
the
less
controversial
items,
because
there
are
quite
a
few
other
amendments
here
and
get
as
much
done
as
possible
and
then
plan
to
spend
monday
afternoon
finishing
deep
dive
into
these
public
safety
amendments.
Because
there
are
a
lot
of
details
in
this
and
people
do
deserve
to
know
so.
Council.
H
Yes,
I
certainly
did,
and
I
can
try
to
be
brief,
but
I
think
it's
it's
clear-
we're
not
necessarily
going
to
get
to
the
right
place
on
this
emotion,
number
three
or
a
place
where
we
can
make
a
really
good
decision,
and
so
I
was
more
interested
in
maybe
teeing
up
the
process
or
looking
at
that,
of
course,
having
andrew
johnson
go
into
detail
on
so
many
issues.
It
did
get
me
pretty
excited
about
talking
more
about
the
earlier
intervention
system.
H
What
we
tried
to
accomplish
in
2006
and
also
the
da
doj
report
in
2015.
We
called
for
this
system
to
be
set
up
and
then
in
2019,
when
we
were
almost
ready
and
we
had
budgeted
to
actually
hire
staff
to
implement
it
along
the
way.
So
I
remain
convinced
it's
a
good
idea
and
it's
a
good
idea
that
we'll
work
outside
of
the
police
department
much
better
than
within
it
and
I'll
probably
be
sending
you
all
some
more
information
you
can
look
over.
H
H
It
sounds
like
there
are
lots
of
people
who
are
very
excited
about
number
two
number,
three,
maybe
all
the
way
to
number
six,
but
they
are
more
concerned
about
the
funding
source
and
it
seems
like
unless
we
can
be
frank
and
open
with
each
other
and
committing
more
to
understand
where
we're
at
I
mean
that
would
really
help
us
if
people
could
just
weigh
in
almost
like
we
could
get
a
straw
poll.
H
I
was
hearing
that
we
didn't
have
seven
votes
to
do
motion
three
in
the
comments
that
I
was
getting
and
the
assumptions
that
I
make
about
you
and
I
try
to
be
pretty
good
at
vote
counting
about
these
things,
but
I
was
hearing
we
might
have
support
if
the
funding
source
changed.
Thank
you,
council,
member
goodman,
for
being
really
clear
about
that.
So
we
have
two
proposals
piled
up
later
in
four
and
six
about
the
funding
source.
H
It
would
really
be
great
if
council
members,
cunningham
fletcher,
bender,
palmisano
and
schrader
could
get
together
sometime
to
see
if
they
could
agree
on
a
funding
source
to
come
back
with
a
proposal
with
us.
That
would
also
out
do
some
of
the
specifics
laid
out
in
motion
three
that
it
seems
like
we
have
pretty
good
consensus
around,
so
I
would
have
gone
to
the
trouble
of
maybe
moving
to
table
this,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
to
because
we're
going
to
run
out
of
time.
I
don't
really
want
to
necessarily
filibuster
this.
H
H
If
I'm
hearing
from
folks
correctly
and
seeing
the
two
motions
that
are
coming
up,
I
am
willing
to
look
at
alternative
funding
sources
to
accomplish
those
goals.
I
am
open
and
receptive
to
both
four
and
six.
I
don't
really
want
it
to
be
a
vague
thing
that
we're
going
to
create,
though,
where
we
won't
actually
know
that
we're
taking
any
steps
and
there
isn't
any
clear
direction
going
forward.
H
So
my
my
offer
or
my
position
would
be
give
us
some
of
the
detailed
outcomes
that
we're
looking
for
in
number
three
and
I'll
try
to
be
open-minded
about
where
we
get
the
five
million
dollars
from
I'd
love
to
hear
others
be
as
clear
about
that.
As
I
just
was.
B
Thank
you.
I
think
there
is
general
interest
in
agreement
and
working
together
here,
and
I
do
think
that
part
of
my
interest
in
saying,
let's
take
up
some
of
the
less
controversial
items
tomorrow,
is
not
just
knowing
we'll
be
through
a
very
long
day
tomorrow,
but
knowing
that,
maybe
that
adds
some
time
to
have
people
come
together
on
here
and
to
have
something
that's
better
than
we've
been
able
to
get
out
here
in
just
nine
more
minutes
or
anything
like
that.
B
So
I
I
will
reserve
that
and
try
to
create
a
conversation
that
doesn't
deliberately
open,
violate
open
meeting
law
and
find
a
way
to
regroup
council
member
here's
who
I
have
in
queue.
Actually
I
will
put
up
mr
clerk.
We
have
four
more
people
in
queue
and
nine
minutes
left
to
go.
What
do
you
suggest?
Madam.
P
Chair,
I
was
simply
going
to
summarize,
where
I
thought
I
heard
the
consensus,
the
majority
of
the
body,
and
that
was
for
friday's
markup
session,
given
the
potential
for
a
very
long
council
session
with
a
new
closed
session.
That
was
added
that
we
would
focus
on
the
remainder
of
the
amendments
that
are
not
necessarily
tied
to
public
safety
and
the
safety
for
all
proposal,
which
includes
multiple
proposed
amendments
within
it.
P
The
five
as
we
discussed
today
so
be
prepared
for
tomorrow
that
whenever
we
can
get
the
budget
markup
session
set
and
going,
we
would
start
with
the
other
amendments
and
put
the
safety
for
all
and
associated
proposals
at
the
end
of
that
meeting.
If
we
need
to
reserve
time
the
clerk
can
pull
calendars
between
tonight
and
tomorrow
to
see
whether
or
not
it
is
determinative
to
get
a
further
markup
session
available
for
monday
should
that
time
be
needed,
may
not
be
needed,
but
just
in
case.
P
So
we
have
that
overflow
to
give
us
some
comfort
and
that
perhaps
working
with
the
budget
office,
the
clerks
could
reorder
or
renumber
and
repackage
what
was
brought
forward
today
as
community
safety.
For
all
into
those
major
five
groupings
that
we
discussed
when
councilmember
johnson
requested
that
it
be
divided
so
that
we
have
those
divided
but
related,
so
that
we
can
either
restructure
them
into
one.
P
If
that's
the
pleasure
of
the
body
or
we
can
keep
them
separated
and
consider
them
as
individual,
separate
things
knowing
as
councilmember
gordon
has
suggested,
the
funding
source
seems
to
be
the
primary
focus,
and
so
that
gives
council
members
a
chance
to
really
focus
on
the
funding
source,
as
opposed
to
the
reallocation
towards
actual
operating
programs.
If
that
meets
the
consensus
of
majority
of
the
body.
B
Yep,
mr
clerk,
should
we,
when
you
say
the
consensus
of
the
body,
I
will
just
say
that
I
think
is
a
great
intention
and
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
move
forward.
Does
anybody
object
to
that
you're
not
suggesting
we
have
to
take
a
formal
vote
on
that.
B
G
Madam
chair,
thank
you.
I
do
think
we've
had
this
long
like
conversation,
which
I
think
would
be
really
hard
to
follow
for
members
of
the
public,
because
they
don't
have
the
materials
that
we're
referring
to
necessarily
in
front
of
them.
We
have
three
proposals
related
to
funding,
violence,
prevention
and
the
recommendations
from
our
work
group
that
was
looking
at
moving
work
out
of
mpd.
We
have
the
original
proposal,
which
is
very
detailed.
It
has
the
11
items.
G
So
it
would
use
one-time
funds
for
the
additional
increased
overtime
and
it
would
re
it
would
maintain
all
of
the
investments
that
we
have
included
in
the
original
proposal,
and
I
I
didn't
mean
to
editorialize.
I
hope
that
was
fair.
I
do
think
it's
important
for
people
to
understand,
especially
because
there's
been
so
many
comments
that
say
we
all
agree.
There
are
places
of
disagreement
that
will
have
very
real
impacts
on
our
ability
to
implement
the
programs
that
we
have
proposed.
G
G
So
the
ftes
in
this
proposal
are
a
really
critical
piece
of
this.
If,
if
our
proposal
fails,
which
it
sounds
like
it
might,
I
will
look
for
other
ftes
in
the
enterprise
to
fill
those
staff
positions,
because
that
is
such
a
critical
piece
of
the
work.
If
this
is
a
priority,
then
council
members
should
support
funding
it,
and
I
will
look
for
other
ways
to
find
those
ftes.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
council
president.
It
seems
that
we
really
should
get
together
and
speak,
because
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
say
that
that
would
be
a
significant
mischaracterization
of
of
the
amendment
that
we
haven't
even
had
a
chance
to
really
get
out
there
and
to
share
about
because
I've
wanted
to
stay
focused
on
all
of
the
hard
work
here.
B
B
Thank
you.
I
think
we're
going
to
adjourn
without
action
on
this
specific
item.
Mr
carl,
is
there
anything
we
need
to
do
to
formally
do
that?
Do
we
have
to
table
it
temporarily.
P
No,
madam
chair,
this
meeting
ends
we
pick
up
tomorrow
afternoon
at
1
30
or
after
1
30.
As
soon
as
we
have
finished,
with
the
official
meeting
of
the
full
city
council
for
a
continuation
of
budget
markup
with
the
direction
you've
just
given
my
staff,
and
I
will
also
work
with
policymakers
to
see
about
time
that
we
can
hold
on
monday
afternoon.
Should
it
be
necessary,
it
may
not
be.
P
I
don't
want
to
confirm
we're
going
to
meet
on
monday,
but
it
may
be
necessary
and
that
these
materials
that
we're
available
for
today
are
linked
through
today's
agenda.
B
Thank
you,
mr
clerk.
We
will
close
this
budget
committee
meeting
council
member
gordon.
Did
you
want
to
have
the
last
word
here?
I
see
you
put
yourself
into
cue
here.
H
B
Council,
member
gordon,
it
is
a
one-time
funding
with
a
financial
projection
in
years
two
through
five,
that
has
space
in
it
for
mental
health
correspondence
and
other
recommendations
coming
from
the
work
group,
I
can't
adequately
summarize
all
of
amendment
four
in
in
90
seconds
here.
So
let's
save
that
for
another
time,
but
I
look
forward
to
that
conversation.