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Hello,
we
are,
we
have
not
yet
started
the
hearing,
we'll
start
in
a
moment.
Thank
you,
mute
yourself
with
star.
C
A
I
will
call
to
order
the
september
8
2020
city
of
minneapolis
planning,
commission
hearing.
The
time
is
now
4
31
and
we'll
begin
by
checking
for
quorum,
asking
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
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G
A
A
Good,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
please
call
the
roll.
C
I'll
note
that
raya
is
here
so
this
is
miley
hi,
hi,
meier.
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I
A
Hi
motion
hello.
Please
meet
yourself
for
still
organizing
the
agenda.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
to
organize
the
agenda
for
today's
hearing.
For
those
of
you
on
the
phone,
we
will
walk
through
each
of
the
agenda
items
and,
if
you
wish
to
testify
on
an
item,
please
let
us
know
sorry,
I'm
just
reading
quick.
A
Please
let
us
know
so
that
we
can
discuss
that
item.
Otherwise
we
may
approve
an
item
on
consent.
So
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
number
four:
the
lyndon
hills,
dentistry
at
4246,
upton
avenue
south
in
ward,
13,
a
non-conforming
use
expansion.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
line
wishing
to
testify
on
item
number
four?
If
there
is
please
unmute
yourself
by
hitting
star
six
and
let
us
know.
A
Will
place
item
number
four.
On
the
discussion
agenda
item
number
five
is
uptown
lost
at
12,
19,
west
31st
street
in
ward
10..
We
will
continue
item.
J
A
Five
to
the
october
5th
city
planning
commission
hearing,
but
is
there
anyone
on
the
line
who
has
signed
it?
Who
has
joined
us
to
testify?
On
this
item?
Item
number:
five:
the
uptown
loss.
A
There's
no
one
online
so
that
item
item
number
five
uptown
loss
will
be
continued
to
the
october
5th
2020
city
planning.
Commission
item
number:
six
is
turbo
tim's
at
2650
second
avenue
northeast
inward
one.
A
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
testify
on
item
number
six,
and
I
will
note
for
item
number
six
turbo
tim's,
that
there
is
an
amended
staff
memorandum
that
was
issued
earlier
today.
So
a
slightly
different
staff
memorandum
item
number
six.
Anyone.
L
A
A
No
one
will
place
turbo
tim's.
I
have
number
six
on
the
consent
agenda
item
number:
seven
is
the
dinky
town
mixed
use
at
407,
15th
avenue,
southeast
1412
and
1428
5th
street
southeast
in
1413,
1417
4th
street
southeast
and
416
14th
avenue
southeast
in
ward
3.
understanding
is.
There
are
folks
on
the
line
to
testify
for
item
number
seven,
so
we
will
discuss.
A
Very
good
item
number
seven
is
on
our
discussion
agenda
item.
M
A
Eight
is.
H
H
A
Is
ppl
bloom
lake
flats,
30
10
to
30
60,
16
avenue
south
in
ward,
9.
L
D
A
Four
registered
is
anybody
wishing
to
testify
on
item
number
eight
press
star
six
to
unmute
yourself.
If
you
wish
to
testify
item
number
eight,
the
ppl
bloom
like
flats.
A
All
right,
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
for
item
number.
Eight,
we'll
place.
Item
number
eight
on
consent.
Item
number:
nine
is
two
hundred
thirty
fourth
avenue
south
in
ward
12.
number
of
applications.
There
is
anybody
wishing
to
testify
on
item
number
nine,
please!
Let
us
know
press
star
six
to
unmute
yourself
and
let
us
know.
H
A
Number
10
that
gordon
center
emergency
shelter
at
2220,
16th
avenue
north
in
ward
5.
that
application,
although
listed
on
the
lens
agenda,
continuance,
has
been
withdrawn
per
and
updated
notice.
So
that
item
will
be
withdrawn
all
right,
so.
N
O
A
As
amended
is
it
will
discuss
items
number
four,
seven
and
nine
items
number
six
and
eight
are
on
the
consent
agenda.
We
will
continue
item
number
five
to
october
fifth,
city
planning
and
commission
hearing
and
item
number
ten
has
been
withdrawn.
A
Could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
F
A
That
much
carries
unanimously
all
right
next.
Could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
items
which
are
items
number
six
and
eight,
noting
that
there
is
an
updated
memo
for
item
number
six
that
was
updated
today.
A
Oh,
that's
right,
I'm
sorry.
It
will
open
the
public
hearing
the
consent
agenda
items.
Anyone
wishing
to
testify
on
consensus.
A
Here,
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
deriving
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
C
C
A
Carries
next,
could
I
have
a
motion
to
continue
item
number
five
to
the
october
5th
city
planning,
commission
hearing.
A
Emotion
and
a
second
any
discussion,
please
call
the
role.
A
Good
that
motion
carries
next
step
because
I
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
withdrawal
of
item
number
10.
K
A
Good
that
motion
carries
and
we'll
now
move
on
to
our
discussion
agenda
for
today.
First
item
up
is
42
46,
upton
avenue.
South
item
number
four
staff
is
peter
crandall.
Here
the
floor
is
yours.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
before
I'm
happy
to
go
into
an
explanation
of
this
item,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
If
the
person
on
the
line
is
the
applicant
or
someone
from
the
public
wishing
to
speak
to
the
staff
recommendation.
L
Yes,
it
was
slated
to
be
on
the
consent
agenda,
so
unless
there
are
concerns
from
the
planning
commission
members,
we
can
just
move
forward
with
approval
of
the
item
or
if
there
are
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
that,
but
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
there
was
no
one
from
the
public
wishing
to
speak
against
the
staff
recommendation
and.
Q
B
L
A
And
to
clarify
you
were
the
one
that
spoke
up
when
I
was
working
through
the
agenda.
A
All
right,
very
good
is
there
anybody
else
wishing
to
testify
on
item
number
four.
A
Okay,
hearing
on
the
commissioners,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
item
number
four,
which
is
a
non-conforming
use
application
item
a
for
an
eliminated
monument
sign.
A
A
second
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
side.
A
All
right
very
good,
please
call
the
roll.
G
N
A
K
Good
evening,
chair
rockwell
and
committee
members,
I
do
have
a
presentation
if
it
could
pull
that
up
for
me.
So
you'll
recognize
this
project.
It
came.
K
It
came
through
last
year
for
a
proposal
on
this
site,
except
excluding
one
of
the
parcels
416
14th
avenue
southeast,
so
that
previous
proposal
came
to
the
planning
commission,
the
planning,
commission
and
zoning
and
planning
committee
had
denied
the
effort
proposed
far
variance
and
site
plan
review.
As
part
of
that
application,
which
was
the
appeal
at
the
zoning
and
planning
committee,
was
denied
on
february
6..
So
the
applicant
has
made
revisions
at
this
time.
K
The
site
now
includes
six
parcels,
407
15th
avenue,
southeast
412
and
428
5th
street
southeast
1413
and
1417
4th
street
southeast
and
416
14th
avenue
southeast,
and
so
that
just
includes
the
the
parcel
with
frontage
on
14th
avenue
southeast.
In
addition
to
the
other
parcels
that
were
included
previously,
the
site
is
now
almost
two
acres.
It
has
frontage
on
all
four
of
the
surrounding
streets.
Fourth,
fifteenth,
fifth
and
fourteenth.
K
K
K
Next
slide,
if
you
can
so,
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
new
mixed-use
building
of
seven
stories
or
sorry.
It's
a
new
plan
unit
development
of
seven
stories.
The
site
has
a
significant
grade:
change
between
fourth
street
southeast
and
fifth
street
southeast
and
so
on.
K
Fourth
street,
the
proposed
building
would
read
us
six
stories,
but
on
fifth
street
it
would
be
7
stories
and
you'll
see
in
the
floor
plans
that
there
are
because
the
the
5th
street
elevation
is
kind
of
built
into
a
grade,
there's
kind
of
one
and
a
half
stories
of
parking
there.
So
the
the
big
changes
from
when
this
came
through
previously
is
there
is
an
additional
parcel
included
and
the
building
height
has
is
now
seven
stories
versus
ten
stories
which
came
before.
K
In
addition,
the
proposed
floor
area
ratio
on
the
current
proposal
is
4.56
and
the
proposal
that
was
denied
earlier
this
year
was
6.04,
so
the
following
applications
are
required:
rezoning
the
entire
site
to
c3a
a
conditional
use
permit
to
establish
a
new
planned
unit
development.
The
applicant
has
proposed
alternatives
for
height,
far
parking
and
loading
and
building
placement
in
the
po
district.
K
An
alteration
of
non-conforming
is
to
allow
the
mcdonald's
to
relocate
and
or
re-establish
in
the
new
building
variants
to
increase
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio.
They
are
asking
for
the
alternative,
but
they
also
need
an
additional
variance
above
that
as
well
site
plan
review
and
then
preliminary
plot
next
slide.
Please
for
the
plan
unit
development,
the
applicant
has
requested
the
alternatives
listed.
The
amenities
proposed
include
active
liner
uses
as
part
of
a
parking
garage,
lead,
silver
certification,
plaza
pedestrian
improvements
that
mainly
consist
of
a
through
block
pedestrian
connection,
shared
vehicles
and
a
recycling
storage
area.
K
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
the
site
in
question
next
slide
and
here's
the
site
plan
so
you'll
see
that
the
vehicular
access
has
changed
compared
to
the
previous
proposal.
With
the
addition
of
the
new
parcel
with
frontage
on
14th,
the
applicant
has
proposed
an
additional
one-way
drive
along
14th.
K
It's
it's
a
bit
of
a
unique
situation.
They
proposed
bollards
at
that
location
and
a
kind
of
pedestrian
friendly,
paving
material
to
allow
that
space
to
function
as
a
patio
and
pedestrian
walkway,
depending
on
needs
of
whatever
businesses
go
near
into
those
spaces.
K
And
then
there
is
a
pedestrian
three
block
connection
here,
shown
kind
of
from
fourth
to
fifth
and
as
well.
There
will
be
vehicle
connections
there
as
well
and
then
at
the
the
bottom
right
corner,
you'll
see
the
plaza,
which
is
currently
it's
currently
in
that
same
location,
because
it's
located
on
the
head
of
a
county
bridge.
That's
at
that
corner
of
the
site
and
the
applicants
proposed
to
provide
a
plaza
there,
as
required
by
chapter
535
next
slide.
K
So
there's
one
level
of
underground
parking
under
the
main
portion
of
the
site,
that's
fully
underground
in
the
next
slide,
and
as
mentioned
previously,
because
the
site
is
on
a
grade,
they
are
able
to
have
another
level
of
partial
underground
parking.
That
is
then
lined
by
the
retail
along
fifth
next
slide,
and
then
there
would
also
be
retail
at
the
4th
avenue
or
4th
street
southeast
side.
K
So
there
would
be
retail
fronting
on
4th,
15th
and
5th
that
would
have
the
retail
would
have
a
access
at
the
corner
and
then
on
14th
next
slide,
and
this
is
just
showing
upper
level
plan
next
slide
and
another
typical
upper
level
plan.
Next
slide:
oh
that's
good!
So
the
the
building
as
it
takes
up
three
quarters
of
the
block
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
define
the
building
as
kind
of
three
separate
buildings
with
the
main
location
on
each
corner.
K
K
So
here's
a
rendering
of
that
through
block
connection-
that's
proposed
at
the
block,
so
this
is
at
fifth
street
next
slide
and
then
here
is
the
the
transition
between
the
the
14th
avenue
southeast
side
and
the
building
in
the
historic
district
next
slide.
K
I
think
I
was
missing
a
couple
of
renderings
there,
but
I
think
the
applicant
has
submitted
renderings
in
their
presentation
as
well,
so
the
site
guidance
for
the
site
is
community
mixed
use
in
quarter
six,
so
community
mixed
use
areas
are
designated
for
large-scale
mixed-use
development,
with
commercial
uses
fronting
on
major
streets,
both
fourth
and
fifteenth,
are
goods
and
services
quarters
here
and
then
quarter.
Six
allows
for
six
stories
in
height,
with
additional
height
evaluated,
based
on
whether
it's
a
reasonable
means
to
achieve
comprehensive
plan
goals.
K
The
the
so
the
previous,
as
as
I
mentioned,
the
previous
plan
submitted
for
the
site,
which
was
denied
in
february
by
the
zoning
planning
committee,
proposed
a
10-story
building
with
a
6.0
for
far.
The
current
proposal
is
a
seven
story.
Building
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
establish
it
as
a
pud
as
a
way
to
evaluate
their
requested
alternatives
and
amenities
for
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan
goals.
They
have
proposed
on-site
production
of
inclusionary
housing
as
well
as
leed
silver
shared
vehicles.
K
Active
liner
uses
things
that
are
the
the
proposed
amenities
as
part
of
the
pud.
That
staff
has
also
determined
would
further
achieve
comprehensive
plan
goals
to
justify
the
height
increase.
So
the
current
proposal
for
the
seven
story,
building
with
the
4.56
far
is
in
line
with
the
guidance
from
minneapolis
2040
and
is
also
in
line
with
the
likely
upcoming
changes
to
the
zoning
code
in
terms
of
height
and
bulk
next
slide,
and
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
all
applications
with
the
stated
conditions
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Staff
at
that
time
permission
I've
got
some
echo
here,
nothing
worse
than
my
own
voice.
Twice.
I
Thank
you,
chair
lindsay
thanks
for
the
report.
Just
had
a
couple
questions
kind
of
first
on
when
we
saw
this
project
go
through
before
they
had
some
pretty
good
amenities
around
environmental
sustainability.
Am
I
correct,
assuming
that
this
time
they
they
just
went
down
to
lead
silver.
K
So
when
they
came
through
previously,
they
they
had,
they
had
discussed
sustainability
strategies,
but
they
had
not
decided
on
any
firm
strategy.
So
I
think
that
they
had
some
general
ideas
of
how
they
would
accomplish
that.
But
in
this
application
they
are
proposing
to
do
the
leeds
or
silver
certification.
I
Okay,
thank
you
my
second
question
and
on
the
dinky
town,
historic
district.
So
there's
no,
it
might
correct
an
understanding,
there's
no
step
down,
there's
no
kind
of
way
to
that.
It
makes
you
mix
in
with
it,
because
it's
going
butting
up
right
against
the
historic
district,
but
they
are
just
changing
the
material
to
brick.
K
So
you
know-
and
I
I
thought
I
had
included
some
some
better
renderings
in
this
app
presentation,
but
hopefully
the
applicant
will
have
those
to
show
you
but
the
the
along
four
streets
of
these
they
do
have
kind
of
they
have
recessed
them.
The
majority
of
the
building
mass
back
from
this
kind
of
two-story
brick
section
to
allow
for
to
transition
between
that
and
the
historic
district.
K
They
have
done
a
bit
on
the
the
14th
avenue
side,
though
not
quite
as
much
so
there
is
a
one-story
brick
base
and
then
for
maybe
one
structural
bay.
The
upper
stories
are
set
back
a
slight
amount
of
where
the
that
portion
of
the
building
borders
the
historic
district,
so
they
have
done
some
things
with
massing
and
material
materiality
to
to
provide
a
transition.
There.
K
J
Q
Yes,
hello:
this
is
ryan
sodoli
with
ca
ventures,
part
of
the
development
team,
I'm
also
joined
by
rob
mueller
and
chris
palkowitz,
who
will
be
walking
through
these.
If
we
could
pull
up
the
slides
that
I
were
submitted,
you
can
run
through
those.
Q
I
don't
have
a
screen,
so
I'll
just
have
to
go
off
of
what
we
have
and
commissioner
schroeder
to
address
your
comment
about
sustainability.
We
are,
we
are
going
to
be
providing
all
of
those
that
we
presented
back
in
the
february
meeting,
so
that
had
a
lot
to
do
with
also
operational,
not
just
development.
Q
Q
Great
great
so
I'll
just
run
through
quickly
the
the
benefits
still
the
same
program
that
we
discussed
at
committee,
the
whole
and
you
know,
offering
affordable
housing.
The
first
student,
affordable
housing,
which
we
established
with
council
member
schroeder
and
I'm
sorry
customer,
fletcher
and
and
implementing
that.
So
this
will
help
impact
more
students
in
this
way,
just
because
of
how
the
development
works.
Q
It
works
better
in
this
format
to
help
more
students,
the
affordable
retail
is
still
part
of
this
development
and
this
sustainability,
as
I
just
discussed
the
traffic
and
curb
cuts,
we're
reducing
seven
down
to
three
and
that
third,
one
that
we
discussed
on
14th,
we'll
kind
of
go
through
here
in
a
little
bit,
removing
another
surface
parking
lot
from
the
area
and
still
providing
district
parking
car
share.
Q
We
have
a
great
opportunity
here
with
this
through
alley,
to
really
implement
some
great
public
art
as
well
and
then,
which
will
also
help
with
some
other
areas.
The
public
plaza
we'll
go
through
real
quickly
and
just
kind
of
running
down
the
list,
the
same
ones
we
had
before.
We
have
security
for
the
area
that
we
have.
That
will
show-
and
we
also
have
bicycle
and
residential
amenities
on
the
perimeter
of
the
building.
Q
So
chris,
do
you
want
to
go
through
the
site
plan
in
one
more
detail.
M
Yeah,
absolutely
thanks:
ryan
hi,
all
I'm
chris
palkiewicz,
I'm
an
architect
with
bkb
group
located
in
minneapolis
222
north
second
street.
Please
go
to
the
third
slide.
A
M
Yeah
yeah,
maybe
now
we're
on
the
second
slide.
Yeah,
maybe
go
to
the
second
slide.
So
just
one
moment
just
so,
people
can
see
that
that
those
are
the
public
benefits
that
ryan
was
speaking
of,
and
it
just
shows
a
few
more
of
the
renderings
that
I
know
lindy
had
kind
of
gone
through
them
rather
quickly.
But
you
know
ever
you
have
more
in
your
packet
as
well,
but
just
give
a
little
feel
for
some
of
the
street
edges
and
attention
to
detail
on
all
sides
of
the
building
that
you
know.
M
Okay,
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
three
and
I'll
talk
a
little
slight
plan
here
so
again
as
we
yeah.
Thank
you
as
we're
working
through
the
the
process
with
this
project,
there's
quite
a
balancing
act
of
different
interests
on
the
site
of
the
2040
plan
and
neighborhood
concerns
and
public
works
concerns
and
metro
transit
slots
as
well
for
some
of
the
bus
ways
so
really
looking
to
balance
things
overall
and
then
just
making
sure
that
our
building
functions
and
the
existing
commercial
buildings
function
as
well.
M
We
have
an
inn
only
at
that
point
and
there's
a
few
reasons
for
that
that,
as
you
can
see,
our
green
dash
line
going
all
the
way
to
the
north
is
really
our
our
primary
loading
route
through
this,
and
it
will
be
more
of
a
one
one-way
for
the
loading
trucks
and
we
didn't
want
any
traffic
going
out
onto
fourth
street
as
there's
so
many
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
and
we
also
heard
that
from
neighbor
concerns
and
city
staff
concerns
as
well
as
you
go
up
to
the
up
to
fifth
street.
M
On
the
14th
side,
when
we
were
at
committee
of
the
whole,
we
previously
had
the
14th
site
that
we
had
it
as
two-way
traffic
on
the
14th
side,
and
we
heard
some
pretty
good
feedback
previously
committed
the
whole
to
to
rethink
that
concept,
and
what
we've
done
is
we've.
We've
turned
it
into
a
limited
entry
point
for
about
two-thirds
of
that
travel
distance.
You
can
see
the
number
seven
on
there
from
the
you
know.
The
red
striped
line
to
the
the
red
strike
arrow
to
the
number
seven
and
it
would
be
limited.
A
M
M
If
there
are
events
in
dinky
town
that
it
could
be
open
to
those
as
farmers,
markets
or
art
fairs
or
other
opportunities
like
those
through
that
space,
and
really
that
that
last
third
of
the
gray
area
is
just
so
that
there
can
be
access
to
the
the
20
parking
stalls
that
are
in
the
northwest
portion
of
the
building
that
are
up
at
it.
It's
up
that
grade
but
shielded
by
the
retail
on
the
sites,
and
then
this
is
the
there's
pedestrian
access
and.
K
M
Foot
sidewalk
throughout
the
space
here
as
well
that
we
know
college
students
are
going
to
make
their
way
through
there,
so
we've
designed
it
filled
with
murals
and
light
and
safety
and
other
things
that
we'll
show
you
in
a
moment
here,
and
the
only
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
down
at
number
three.
We
are
providing
as
similar
to
the
previous
design,
a
public
plaza
as
another
pedestrian
amenity
to
the
site
and
we're
continuing
to
work
with
the
county
on
refining
the
details.
M
That
is
it
as
it
is
on
top
of
a
bridge,
so
we're
a
little
limited
and
you
know
a
lot
of
trees
and
other
things,
but
we're
looking
at
kind
of
creating
raised
boxes,
garden
boxes
above
the
bridge
and
we're
kind
of
looking
through
some
of
the
details
of
that
right
now.
But
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
real
great
space.
M
Our
next
slide.
Please
I'm
sorry,
one
more
item
on
that
previous
slide,
that
the
existing
commercial
buildings
do
use.
We'd
heard
some
concern
from
the
neighborhood
groups
at
fourth
street
having
an
access
at
fourth
street
was
a
concern
to
them,
but
we,
the
the
existing
commercial
buildings
to
the
west,
use
that
access
right
now
and
own
half
of
the
it's,
not
it's,
not
a
city
alleyway,
it's
a
private
land
and
they
own
half
of
that
access,
so
we're
continuing
to
provide
them
access
and
provide
ourselves
access
as
well.
M
Okay,
next
slide,
please
on
the
we're
just
showing
a
little
more
closely
at
4th
street,
all
of
the
different
activities
going
on
and
that
we're
very
sensitive
to
what's
going
on
with
the
different
bus
stops
that
are
there
and
the
vehicle
routes
and
bicycle
routes,
and
that's
why
we
maintained
it
as
a
one-way
end.
M
We
have
no
out
access
there
and
then
page
five,
please
of
the
slideshow,
is
showing
a
little
bit
of
details
of
our
through
block
connection
analysis
of
the
first.
The
first
portion
of
it
is
sight
lines
that,
by
having
this
as
more
of
a
t
shape
than
just
an
alley
there's,
it
allows
a
lot
more
eyes
to
be
to
be
seen
and
a
lot
more
opportunity
that
there's
not
going
to
be
creepy
corners
through
the
back
of
this.
M
The
second
portion
of
this
is
we're
going
to
have
it
very
well
lit,
and
you
can
see
the
lighting
all
around
that
that's
taken
from
our
photometric
to
show
some
of
where
the
the
warm
spots
are
and
then
the
building
will
have
24-hour
management
and
surveillance
cameras
throughout
here
as
well
in
case
something
is
occurring.
There'll,
be
you
know,
record
of
it
and
opportunity
for
staff
to
intervene,
or
you
know
call
for
more
services
at
that
point
as
well.
So
we've
definitely
given
quite
a
bit
of
look
into
the
spaces.
M
We've
heard
good
comments
from
from
neighbors
and
from
from
the
neighboring
buildings
of
how
we
should
really
be
thinking
about
this
with
that
I'll
pass
it
to
rob
to
speak
about
the
exterior.
D
Could
you
go
to
slide
number
six,
so
we
can
see
in
the
in
the
lower
left.
What
we've
been
trying
to
do
is
find
compromises
between
the
goals
of
the
neighborhood,
the
goals
of
the
project
and
the
goals
of
the
2040
plan
in
the
lower
left.
You
can
see
an
exhibit
regarding
corridor
six
and
the
2040
plan
and
the
idea
of
creating
a
street
wall
at
the
property
line
of
the
building,
as
opposed
to
providing
significant
setbacks.
D
And
in
the
upper
left,
you
can
see
our
original
response
to
this,
which
we
worked
through
with
staff
to
find
a
common
ground
where
we
were
matching
the
material
character
of
the
historic
district,
but
also
giving
this
street
wall
is
due
in
the
upper
right
was
a
response
to
our
meetings
with
the
neighborhood
association,
which
had
the
question
of
how
do
we
create
something
with
a
bigger
setback
that
really
shows
the
right,
the
correct
scale
at
the
street?
D
D
The
zones
in
white
at
the
far
right
are
zones
where
we
have
set
the
building
back
even
further,
then
then
it
was
set
back
previously
in
order
to
allow
that
mass
to
step
down
as
it
approaches
the
historic
district.
E
D
Lower
right,
you
can
see
an
example
of
the
street
section
and
the
neighboring
building
is
on
the
left.
In
gray.
The
new
building
is
on
the
right
in
blue
and
yellow
the
street
is
is
quite
broad
and
it
provides
a
one-to-one
ratio
plus
of
of
width
the
height.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
significant
amount
of
natural
light
coming
into
that
street
and
the
the
imposing
character
is
mitigated
by
that
fact.
Go.
M
Number
seven
rob
I
want
to
this
is
I
want
to
add
one
additional
piece
of
information
on
that
slide.
If
you
could
stay
there
for
a
moment
on
the
the
upper
floors
of
that,
the
building
is
stepped
back
five
feet
from
the
face
and
then
that
white
area
in
in
the
upper
right
hand,
image
is
steps
back
even
further
from
that,
so
that
we
do
have
stepping
and
you
know,
working
it
down
towards
the
sort
of
the
historic
character,
and
I
think
we
have
a
slide
of
that
coming
up.
M
D
Seven
one
of
the
comments
from
staff
and
from
the
neighborhood
was
about
providing
variety
and
interest
along
the
street
in
terms
of
different
heights,
and
what
we've
done
is
we've
introduced
these
masonry
pavilions
that
have
a
lower
scale
to
them
than
the.
D
If
you
want
to
just
go
to
slide
number
eight,
we
can
walk
through
some
of
the
imagery.
I
think
these
renderings
tell
a
good
story
of
what
our
efforts
are
in
terms
of
creating
this
really
wonderful
streetscape.
The
buildings
are
highly
articulated
in
masonry,
particularly
at
the
ground
floor,
where
they're
going
to
be
most
experienced
by
by
the
public.
D
If
you
go
to
slide
number
nine,
you
can
see,
there's
a
rhythm
established
of
a
one
and
then
two
and
those
two
bay
zones
that
are
divided
by
that
dark
reveal.
That
is
a
reflection
of
some
of
the
more
narrow
existing
building
facades.
D
So
we're
we're
proposing
a
rhythm
of
facades
that
that
can
relate
to
those
to
those
existing
buildings,
and
we
would
envision
different
retailers
within
each
of
those
bays
potentially
in
different
experiences,
so
that
you
would
have
a
variety
of
character
marching
along
in
this
new
building,
as
is
happening
in
the
neighbors
lindsay
slide
number
10
lindsay
had
already
walked
through.
This
is
a
passage
through
our
through
block
connection.
D
I
D
Means
of
overly
emphasizing
this
lower
scale
on
the
first
floor,
we've
also
are
proposing
to
do
artwork
as
you
pass
through
that
poop
through
black
connection
artists,
to
be
determined,
but
the
idea
being
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
vibrant,
exciting
addition
to
the
neighborhood
working
around
to
slide
11
on
4th
and
15th.
D
The
entire
facade
here
has
a
an
atrium
or
sorry
an
arcade
that
projects
back
from
those
masonry
walls
providing
shelter
and
a
bit
of
relief
from
the
consistent
facade
frontage.
D
F
D
A
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioners
are
the
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
time.
A
R
A
Seeing
none
I
will
move
on
hold
on
one
sec.
There's
a
question
from
commissioner.
G
Sorry
I
was
expecting
ryan's
also
speaking,
but
okay,
so
one
of
you
said
that
you
thought
that
the
entrance
on
14th
avenue
would
only
need
to
be
used
for
events
and
construction.
Correct
like
about
how
many.
N
Q
Yeah
that's
correct
as
far
as
predicting
how
many
days
I
I
wouldn't
know
that
would
have
to
be.
M
Q
D
D
It
could,
alternatively,
be
used
for
a
farmers
market
or
an
art,
fair
or
any
other
number
of
things,
so
we're
looking
to
create
a
really
dramatic
space
inside
of
that
zone
and
clearly
delineate
that
as
a
pedestrian
area
that
every
once
in
a
while,
would
be
used
by
vehicles,
for
example
on
move-in
days,
where
maybe
there's
just
an
overwhelming
amount
of
moving
trucks.
G
D
G
Got
it
and
what
kind
of
materials
are
you
using
like
lindsay
said
pedestrian
friendly
materials?
What
materials
does
that
mean.
D
So
typically,
we'd
have
an
asphalt
or
a
concrete
street
there.
This
would
be
a
fever
system
or
a
stamped
concrete
system,
so
that
was
very
clearly
distinguished
from
where
people
would
drive.
Also,
we
would
reinforce
that
with
a
soft
curb
so
that
the
sidewalk
along
14th
would
be
continuous
at
the
same
elevation.
People
would
not
be
stepping
down
into
a
street
zone
and
then
stepping
back
up
when
they
get
to
the
other
side,
so
defining
that
area
is
pedestrian
by
by
its
elevation
above
the
typical
street.
G
M
M
A
All
right,
seeing
on
we'll
move
on
to
public
testimony,
I
will
call
folks
names.
We
have
a
list
of
folks
who
have
signed
up
to
testify
and
at
the
end,
if
you're
not
on
the
list,
we
will
open
it
up.
There
are
a
number
of
people
wishing
to
testify,
so
please
keep
your
testimony
to
the
applications
before
us
and
please
try
not
to
repeat
points
that
folks
have
brought
up
earlier,
because
we
will
have
already
heard
them.
So
first
up
is
barbara
cam.
H
A
H
My
name
is
barbara
cam.
I
live
at
423
7th
street
southeast
I'm
on
the
executive
committee
of
the
marcy
holmes,
neighborhood
association
and
I'll
read
from
the
letter
we've
written
to
the
board
we've
written
to
the
commission.
I'm
sorry.
We
support
ca
ventures,
applications
for
rezoning
to
c3a
the
planned
unit,
development,
re-establishment
of
a
non-conforming
use
and
variance
of
the
far
to
4.5.
H
However,
we
do
not
support
the
application
for
site
plan
review.
A
number
of
our
continuing
concerns
were
not
addressed
and
revised
plans.
We
request
the
following
improvements:
to
provide
a
more
pedestrian
friendly
experience
in
dinkytown
and
to
respect
and
align
with
the
built
form
and
character
of
the
adjacent
commercial,
historic
district.
H
The
vehicular
entrance
from
4th
street
still
poses
a
danger
to
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
and
would
create
more
traffic
on
an
already
busy
car
and
bus
with
additional
vehicles
from
the
ca
ventures
project.
The
future
welcome
edition
of
the
e-line
brt
would
only
exacerbate
this
problem.
We
suggest
this
pro
entrance
be
eliminated.
H
We
request
a
substantial
setback,
step
back
of
the
top
three
or
four
stories,
some
variety
in
building
heights
and
articulation
of
facades
at
ground
level
that
recognizes
the
40
to
60
foot
width
of
most
dinky
town
structures.
Sea
adventures
has
addressed
a
through
brock
connection
with
more
lighting.
We
appreciate
that.
H
I
also
want
to
mention
the
grocery
store,
which
they
said
they're
pursuing
that
is
particularly
important
for
students
in
the
area.
These
comments
reflect
the
interests
of
stakeholders
across
the
board,
students,
business
owners,
renters
and
homeowners,
and
would
ensure
the
integrity
and
character
of
the
adjoining
commercial,
historic
district.
We
request
your
consideration
of
them.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
Good
afternoon
president
rockwell
and
commissioners,
I'm
ted
tucker,
319
5th
street
southeast
in
minneapolis,
in
support
of
comments
about
mapping
made
by
others.
You
just
heard
some
from
barbara.
I
have
sent
you
some
diagrams
from
the
2014
binkytown
usa
plan
showing
the
desired
step
back
of
upper
stories
new
buildings.
I
hope
staff
is
able
to
display
this.
For
you.
E
The
2040
plan
is
supposed
to
integrate
all
previous
small
area
plan,
but
comprehensive
as
it
is.
There
is
not
the
detail
about
used
character
and
mapping
that
is
found
in
a
fine-grained
small
area
plan.
I
still
don't
see
my
diagram,
but
perhaps
it
will
show
up
for
the
benefit
of
the
commissioners
to
understand
the.
E
Okay,
okay,
good!
Thank
you,
please
think
about
the
step
backs
in
the
plan,
as
you
consider.
If
a
six-story
building
proposed
for
the
corner
of
5th
street
and
14th
avenue
southeast
really
fits
into
the
small
scale
context
of
thinking
town
there
we
are.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
A
substantial
setback
such
as
the
one
you've
you
approved
a
few
years
ago
for
the
venue
across
14th
avenue
would
be
much
more
appropriate
and
I'd
like
to
add.
I
thank
the
architects
for
for
including
in
their
drawings,
a
section
across
14th
avenue.
It
shows
the
impact
of
the
six
story
building
on
the
street
and
that
you
can
compare
that
to
the
more
appropriate
step
back
of
the
venue
on
the
other
side
of
14th
avenue.
E
E
I
know
it's
there
right
now,
but
it's
used
very
little
just
for
a
few
businesses
back
there
as
soon
as
it's
opened
up
for
access
to
the
parking
ramp
and
deliveries
to
this
very
large
project
will
be
a
lot
more
traffic
coming
off
of
fourth
street
to
cross
a
bike
lane
in
front
of
a
busy
bus,
stop
and
then
have
to
negotiate
heavy
pedestrian
traffic
on
the
sidewalk.
E
J
J
J
The
business
on
the
left
of
which
is
the
corner
of
14th
avenue
and
5th
street
was
a
bookstore
and
the
multicolored
sign
toward
the
right
and
behind
the
1955.
Buick
is
the
scholar,
the
famed
coffee
shop,
where
bob
dylan
and
others
perform
anyway.
That's
the
idea
of
the
scale
and
the
nature
of
that
area.
Historically,
and
despite
all
the
talks
from
the
developer
on
what
they've
done
to
respect
the
historic
nature
of
fourth
street,
they
seem
to
have
done
nothing
to
support
the
historic
nature
of
14th
avenue.
J
14Th
avenue
5th
street
is
a
key
part
of
dinkytown
and
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
be,
like
ted
called
it,
a
canyon
and
you're,
discussing
whether
there
be
any
sunlight
at
all
coming
into
this
area.
With
this
new
building-
and
I
think
I
I
think
that
with
the
new
developments
we're
not
going
to
have
any
dinky
in
dinky
town
and
I'm
concerned
about
losing
the
town
part
where
it's
a
friendly
place
to
gather
where
they're
smaller
businesses-
and
I
want
to
to
have
more
articulation
and
more
step
backs
on
the
upper
levels.
J
The
venue
across
the
street
on
14th
avenue
has
done
that
quite
successfully.
We
think,
even
though
the
neighborhood
went
kicking
and
screaming
into
that
development,
I
think
it's
working
out
very
well
and
I
would
like
to
see
these
developers
do
as
well,
but
I
think
they
need
more
work.
I
think
they've
done
some
very
nice
aspects
of
this
development,
but
I
think
they
should
spend
a
little
more
time
on
14th
avenue
and
5th
street.
C
J
A
Hello
good!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you.
Next
up
is
allison
kerwin,
please
press
star
6
to
unmute.
A
A
Allison
kerwin,
we
will
circle
back
to
allison.
Kerwin
next
up
is
tristan
tolleson.
If
you
are
on
the
line,
can
we
on
new
q
star
six
on
mute
stationed
address
for
the
record.
R
Okay,
I'm
kristin
heidi
tollefson,
my
address
would
be
1316
fourth
street
southeast
and
I
represent
preservator
dinkytown,
which
was
founded
in
2014
to
promote
the
character
and
multiple
values
of
the
historic
small
business
district
to
its
neighboring
communities
and
its
student
population.
R
My
written
comments,
which
I've
provided
to
begin
with
an
appreciation
of
the
enormous
output
of
public
investments,
of
public
monies,
cpad
and
civic
engagement
hours
that
have
been
spent
over
the
last
seven
and
a
half
years
to
give
voice
to
the
public
will
for
the
future
of
intertown
and
also
for
the
investment
that
the
city
made
in
cpen
and
consultant
time
to
create
a
study
and
complete
the
designation
in
2015
at
the
binky
county
commercial
district.
R
In
addition,
there
are
numerous
comprehensive
plan
policies
which
note
the
public
values
of
place,
identity
and
historic
character,
and
so
it's
it's
surprising
that
the
staff
report
does
not
even
mention
the
historic
district
in
the
lead
description
of
surrounding
properties
in
neighborhoods
and
mentions
it
only
twice
in
passing.
Without
consideration
of
impact,
this
development
will
redefine
nearly
a
quarter
of
the
fourth
square,
black
district.
R
It
will
be
the
new
gateway
to
dinky
town
and
so
preserve
historic
dinkytown
supports
the
marcie
homes
position
on
the
project
and
request
your
support
for
the
appeal
to
see
a
ventures
for
the
specified
design
considerations.
I'm
not
clear
what
the
resistance
is
to
a
more
sensitive
treatment,
particularly
of
the
5th
and
14th
section.
If
you
were
to
bring
up
a
slide,
I
think
it
was
again
where
there
is
the
fourth
and
fourteenth
deals.
R
I
think
you
can
see
how
the
grid
of
brick
climbing
the
street
wall
is
fifth
and
fourteenth
is
is
extremely
overpowering
and
the
setbacks
there
are
step
backs
there
that
are
being
requested
and
with
the
venue,
as
an
example
are
really
incompletely
dealt
with.
It
really
needs
to
create
more
of
a
step
back
and
to
enhance
the
scale
and
character
of
the
surrounding
uses.
R
So
the
in
the
preservation
of
views
section,
the
staff
notes
only
that
the
building
will
not
block
the
views
of
the
district
from
the
pedestrian
level.
I
don't
think
this
is
true
of
the
corner
fifth
and
fourteenth,
and
given
the
height
and
massing
proposed,
it
seems
like
it's
not
too
much
to
request
the
step
back
that
as
marcy
holmes
has
proposed.
R
I
do
want
to
come
in
on
the
plaza,
I
think,
that's
a
very
exciting
advocacy
on
the
part
of
staff
that
it
be
included
with
a
plan
and
we've
appreciated
the
willingness
of
the
of
ca
ventures
to
commit
to
a
design,
maintenance
and
monitoring
of
this
area,
because
a
public
space
and
gathering
places
are
critical
aspects
of
the
value
of
dinkytown
to
the
student
and
larger
community.
R
R
First,
the
public
realm
infrastructure
in
dinky
town,
as
I'm
sure
you
have
noted,
is
sorely
in
need
of
upgrading.
The
sidewalks
have
not
been
done
for
many
years
and
are
pockmarked
with
gun,
residue
and
uneven
surfaces,
and
the
light
posts
are
literally
falling
apart.
New
development
will
upgrade
the
north
side
of
4th
street,
leaving
the
south
side
a
deteriorating
eyesore,
and
this
is
also
true
of
14th
avenue.
R
So
our
goal
of
our
testimony
is
to
request
that
a
broader
recognition
of
the
2040
goals
and
policies,
including
a
policy
60
93
and
100
having
to
do
with
intrinsic
value
of
older
properties
and
heritage
preservation,
will
support
the
design
request
made
by
marcy
holmes.
R
Please
keep
in
mind
the
unique
identity
of
dinkytown
that
it's
integral
to
its
function,
of
creating
a
sense
of
place
and
belonging
to
the
student
communities
of
the
university
and
surrounding
campuses,
as
well
as
the
community,
the
university
district
communities.
This
function
is
recognized
in
planning.
Environmental,
academic
and
architectural
literature
is
critical
to
health
and
well-being,
including
academic
performance.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
all
parties
to
integrate
new
investment
with
the
historic
character
and
values
of
thinking
town.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
attention
to
our.
A
Again,
all
right,
why
don't
we
move
to
matthew
paddock,
let's
get
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
I'm
using
star.
A
A
All
right
is
there
anybody
else
wishing
to
testify.
If
so,
please
unmute
yourself
and
let
us
know
that
you're
here
star,
6
unmutes.
You
also
may
need
to
unmute
your
own.
A
A
Anybody
wishing
to
testify
remaining,
otherwise
you
close
the
public
hearing,
I'm
hearing
that
kerwin
and
borman
are
both
in
the
meeting
just
not
able
to
unmute.
So
if
you
wish
to
speak
unmute
yourself
star
six.
A
Okay,
close
the
public
hearing,
commissioners,
we
have
a
number
of
applications
before
us.
Is
there
any
discussion
or
saying
we
have
further
questions
for
our
staff
or
the
applicant.
G
Thank
you,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
that
this
is
going
to
be
significantly
reducing
the
number
of
curb
cuts
on
that
block
from
believe
seven
down
to
three.
I
would
have
liked
to
see
it
go
even
further
than
that
down
to
two
or
one
or
even
zero.
The
one
on
14th
avenue
was
the
biggest
issue
for
me
because
you
know
at
the
park
board.
You
know
we
seasonally
closed
captioning,
not.
N
G
To
you
know
really
make
sure
that
we
don't
inadvertently,
make
it
difficult
to
do
that
for
14th
avenue,
because
I
think
that
block
between
fourth
and
fifth
street
would
be
a
great
place
to
pedestrianize
seasonally
and
let
you
know
restaurants
put
out
their
tables.
I
was
actually
you
know,
disappointed
that
it.
It
didn't
happen
this
year,
but
I
think
it
is
definitely
like
the
prospect
to
happen
in
future
years.
G
So
I
just
really
wanted
to
to
begin
with
that,
and
you
know
I
I
wish
that
I
could
have
had
you
know
direct
conversations
with
the
developer,
but
I
can't
because
that's
you
know
an
ex
parte
communication,
but
I
just
would
wanted
to
like
make
really
sure
that
if
the
city
were
to
do
that,
that
the
developer
would
be
cooperative
with
that.
G
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
to
hear
from
the
developer
like
if
it
were
to
be
pedestrianized
like
like
seasonally,
like
you
think
you
could
be
able
to
work
around
that
like
if
it
was
if
they
wanted
to
pedestrianize.
It
say
from
the
end
of
spring
term
to
the
beginning
of
fall
term.
So
you
know
you
could
still
have
your
move
in
move
out
days.
Would
you
still
be
able
to
work
around
that.
M
Q
That
certainly
would
work
for
us.
It's
only
a
benefit
for
us
to
have
that
as
a
pedestrian
street,
so
we
are
fully
fully
on
board
with
that.
Okay,
I
think
I
think,
that's,
I
think,
that's
our
goal
too.
So
we
can
certainly
work
out
a
schedule
or
work
within
some
guidelines
that
we
can
establish.
So
I
look
to
I
look
to
I
look
to
the
guidance
of
this
commission
to
help
us
establish
that.
G
Okay
and
then
for
the
one
on
fourth
street
the
concerns
that
the
neighborhood
brought
up
in
regard
to
that,
like,
I
guess
this
is
maybe
a
question
for
staff
like
if,
if
brt
was
put
in
there,
would
that
be
a
problem
with
how
things
are
structured
like
have
you
been?
You
know,
as
you
worked
on
this,
you
know
been
preparing
for
a
likely
brt
route.
There.
G
K
My
understanding
is
that
fourth
street,
because
it
has
both
brt
proposed
and
a
protected
bikeway
that
yes,
there
would
be
additional
conflicts
as
part
of
of
that,
in
addition
to
this
being
a
really
high
traffic
pedestrian
area
as
well.
So
I
know
I
mean
the
there
is
a
curb
cut
there
already.
Obviously
it's
not
serving
this,
this
development
or
this
number
of
vehicles,
but
there
is
a
curb
cut
there
already.
K
So
my
understanding
is
that
you
know,
even
if
the
development
did
not
propose
to
use
that
existing
curb
cut,
that
it
would
have
to
stay
to
serve
the
uses
that
it
already
does
serve,
and
so
I
know
that
they
are
just
proposing
that
it
will
be
a
one-way
in
for
for
the
vehicular
traffic.
K
But
yes,
you're
correct
that
there
there
will
potentially
be
some
conflicts,
but
the
applicants
there
are
all
these
things
are
kind
of
phasing
in
in
the
next
several
years,
and
so
the
applicant
has
been
in
conversation
with
hennepin,
county
and
metro
transit
about
designing
the
bus
stops
and
designing
the
vehicular
access
and
even
like
plaza
and
pedestrian
amenities,
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
conflict
with
future
plans.
K
But
yes,
there
there
there
would
be
more
potential
conflicts.
However,
even
with
the
you
know,
the
I
think
the
protected
bikeway
here
is
proposed
to
either
be
curb
level
or
or
curb
protected.
So
it's
probably
not
a
situation
where
cars
are
going
to
be
in
that
bikeway,
but
potentially
needing
to
cross
the
bikeway.
Q
There's
already
a
quick
comment
on
that
that
that
we
won't
be,
it
won't
be
for
our
access
up
before
so
our
access
will
still
go
in
and
out
of
fifth
for
our
building
we're
just
saying
we
can't.
We
can't
control
what
our
neighbors
do
and
we
can't
close
down
that
access
portion
is
all
we're
saying
so
we'll
be
going
in
and
out
with
our
entrance
closer
to
fifth
street.
So
with
all
our
residents
and
that
parking
there
we'll
we'll
be
utilizing
that
okay.
G
Q
A
G
Q
G
Okay,
I
thought
that
was
a
nice
addition,
all
right.
That
was
all
for
me.
A
Very
good
commissioner
liftkeep
here.
O
Yes,
I
just
had
a
quick
question
for
the
applicant.
I
know
when
we
in
the
presentation
we
were
going
through
a
lot
of
the
elements
and
one
of
the
questions
I
had
was
related
to
the
required
findings
for
the
pud,
and
one
of
the
requirements
is
related
to
the
scale
and
character
of
the
surrounding
area.
O
And
I
I
know
we've
kind
of
talked
about
the
scale,
as
things
have
changed
in
dinkytown
over
the
years,
but
I
do
want
to
know
if
they
could
possibly
address
the
character
in
relation
to
the
setback,
questions
that
were
asked
in
the
public
comment
period,
because
I
am
finding
that
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
a
sticking
point
in
my
mind.
In
terms
of
it,
it
really
doesn't
seem
to
have
the
character
of
dinky
town,
since
everything
is
so
flush
with
the
streetscape.
O
So
if
maybe
the
applicant
could
address
that
a
little
bit,
because
I'm
I'm
finding
that
that
finding
to
be
a
tough
hurdle
to
get
over.
Q
Yeah
I'll
start
off,
and
then
chris
you
can,
you
can
join
in
here.
Yeah.
The
the
main
intention
was
really
just
aligning
the
the
two,
the
the
two
pieces,
with
the
the
2014
marcie
homeslam
and
the
2040
plan,
and
really
just
putting
those
two
together
and
and
making
that
work.
So
those
upper
setbacks
still
providing
stay
within
the
2040
plan,
but
still
have
some
upper
story
relief
and
then
the
brick
facade
and
then
the
spacing
of
those
also
playing
on
even
one
of
the
images
that
were
shown
earlier.
O
But
what
about
the
comments
related
to
additional
setbacks
for
the
upper
stories,
though,
because
I
think
that's
where
the
the
disconnect
is
happening.
D
The
the
goal
of
the
the
goal
of
the
2040
plan-
and
we
think
it's
a
good
one-
is
the
definition
of
a
street
wall
and,
as
the
the
density
of
the
area
increases,
there
is
going
to
be
a
new,
a
new
character
created
by
the
height
of
the
street
relative
to
the
width
of
the
street.
These
buildings
are
not
tall,
they
are
taller
than
the
old
historic
district
and
we
we're
looking
to
the
future
and
to
the
past
at
the
same
time.
So
we're
trying
to
respond
to
what
the
2040
plan
is
saying.
D
You
know
which
we
think
is
a
pro
positive.
There
are
many
cities
in
country
and
in
the
world
where
this
creates
a
very,
very
high
quality
street
experience,
and
we
are
also
trying
to
relate
to
the
character
of
those
old
buildings
by
creating
these
low-rise
masonry
elements
that
have
a
common
material
with
that
historic
character
that
have
a
common
scale
with
that
historic
character
that
have
divisions
in
them
that
allow
for
the
breakdown
and
the
individuality
of
these
buildings
to
to
work
across
the
street
from
one
another.
D
O
I
mean
I
hear
all
that,
and
I
I
I
get
your
point
about
the
masonry,
but
I
wonder
at
some
points
it's
there's
not
much
of
a
reveal
and
and
some
of
the
facades
it
looks
like
I
got.
Fourth,
it's
you
know
eight
to
ten
feet
where
it
steps
back,
but
on
other
facades
it
just
looks
like
it's,
and
maybe
this
is
the
limited
renderings
we've
seen.
It
looks
like
a
matter
of
you
know
less
than
a
foot
which
really
doesn't
give
the
same
appearance.
It's
just
changing
the
color
of
the
box.
O
So
I'm
just
learning.
If,
if
there's
more
of
an
opportunity
there
to
to
kind
of
tie
it
into
the
fact
that
it
isn't
a
j,
it
is
adjacent
to
a
really
unique
historic
district,
and
I
know
that
it's
in
and
of
itself,
not
in
the
district,
but
I,
but
I
do
wonder
if
it
I
know
you
talked
about
high
quality,
streetscape
and
and
whatnot,
but
this
there
is
a
character
here
that
we
have
to
kind
of
take
into
consideration.
I
mean
otherwise.
M
But
I
think
this
is
chris
to
respond
to
that.
We
have
different
conditions
on
the
different
sides,
so
along
fourth
street
you
can
see
we
have
a
more
significant
setback
over
her
step
back.
Excuse
me
over
10
feet
on
on
that
side
along
15th.
I
think
it's
less
of
an
issue
overall
and
and
then
coming
over
to
14.
I
think
that
seems
to
be
the
area
more
in
question
and
we
have
we.
M
We
have
stepped
back
the
upper
portion
of
the
building
five
feet
and
we
have
an
additional
step
back
as
it
as
it
comes
back
when
you
get
to
the
when
you
get
next
to
the
blarneys.
At
that
point
you
know
it
certainly
could
go
more,
but
this
is
we
thought
this
is
a
successful
balance
between
some
of
the
existing
buildings,
we're
seeing
and
some
of
the
historic
buildings
as
well.
K
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
about
the
the
small
area
plan
that
was
shared
during
public
testimony.
K
So
while
that
was
adopted
previously,
all
the
guidance
from
small
area
plans
have
been
integrated
into
the
2040
plan
and
there's
no
requirement
in
the
2040
plan
that
requires
the
same
significant
quantity
step
backs
for
every
story
above
the
first.
I
know
that
the
dinky
town,
small
area,
plant
or
martian
small
area
did
really
specifically
call
out
that
the
the
upper
level
should
be
step
back.
You
know
eight
feet
for
every
story
above
the
first,
and
that
is
not
something
that
made
it
into
the
2040
plan.
K
That's
not
guidance.
That
still
applies
to
the
site
so
and
then
you
know
we're
kind
of,
as
far
as
the
other
guidance
for
the
site
that
this
isn't
a
pedestrian-oriented
overlay
district.
I
know
that
you're
mostly
talking
about
the
upper
floors,
but
in
general,
as
far
as
the
the
first
floor
of
the
building
we
are,
we
do
have
guidance
that
states
that
that
should
be
as
close
to
the
property
line
as
feasible.
O
Thanks
lindsay
yeah,
I
wasn't
concerned
about
the
the
ground
story
and-
and
I
totally
get
the
how
the
small
area
plans
were
selected
and
integrated
and
whatnot.
I
was
just
mainly
concerned
with
the
pud
requirement
that
it
addressed
the
scale
and
character
of
the
surrounding
area,
especially
giving
its
historic
and
really
unique
reputation
and
character.
So
that
was
my
primary
concern
and
I
guess
I
would
echo
what
the
community
members
were
saying
related
to
the
setback
on
14th
being
increased.
O
A
little
bit
would
be,
I
think,
more
of
a
nod
to
the
character
than
than
not
five
feet's,
not
a
lot
when
you're
talking
about
a
six
or
seven
story
building.
O
A
All
right,
commissioners,
are
there
other
comments
or
questions
for
staff,
or
somebody
like
to
start
us
off
with
a
motion.
P
A
Wait
a
second
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
a
through
f
with
all
stated
conditions,
commissioner,.
O
I
mean
I
I'll
be
supporting
all
the
motions
except
c.
I
would
very
much
like
to
see
an
added
fourth
condition
that
the
upper
four
stories
along
14th
avenue
be
set
back
10
feet
from
the
first
story.
O
Yeah,
if
the,
if
the
chris
commissioner
meyer,
would
be
willing
to
consider
it
yes,
otherwise
I'll
be
voting.
No
on
that
one.
A
So
that
is
on
item
c,
so
we'll
amend.
I
hear
an
amended
motion
for
items,
a
b
d,
e,
f
and
commissioner,
would
you
like
to
add
g?
Is
it
flat
as
well
or
g?
Yes,
yes,.
A
F
A
All
right,
commissioner
olsen
for
second
to.
A
All
right,
very
good,
so
all
items
except
for
item
c.
Is
there
any
discussion
or
comments
on
emotion
to
approve
consistent
with
staff
recommendations,
all
items
except
for
I
don't
see.
G
O
A
A
I
Shall
second,
the
motion.
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
commissioner
meyer.
G
Q
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
we
performed
a
study
of
that,
but
so
that
would
be
an
additional
repeat
off
of
so
that's
sent
me
career
footage
so
yeah,
I
would
say
in
the
neighborhood,
maybe
20
beds.
G
Okay
yeah,
I
guess
you
know
what
I
think
I'm
going
to
vote
no
on
this
one
just
because
you
know
I'd
like
to
enable
as
many
people
as
possible
to
live
close
to
transit.
So
I
mean
that's
20
fewer
people
who
could-
and
I
think
that's
that's
more
important
to
me
than
the
aesthetic
consideration
there
so
I'll
vote.
No
on
this
one.
F
Thank
you.
I
just
was
kind
of
wondering
with
the,
since
we
have
bundled
the
item
c
of
this
number.
Seven,
with
an
added
fourth
condition:
a
vote.
Yes
or
a
vote
no
is
on
all
of
them.
So
if
you
oppose
the
added
condition
but
agree
with
the
rest,
you
still
have
to
add
you
have
to.
You
still
have
to
vote
no.
A
If,
if
you
oppose
the
added
condition
then-
and
the
motion
fails,
then
we
would
we
would
accept
another
motion
on
item
city.
A
P
P
The
motion
was
to
approve
that
item
with
the
added
condition,
so
it
wasn't
just
a
motion
to
add
the
condition
it
was
to
approve
that
item
with
the
added
condition.
So
any
commissioners
who
are
in
favor
of
adding
that
condition
and
everything
else
that
comes
along
with
that
motion
would
vote
in
favor
of
the
motion.
Commissioners,
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
condition
as
proposed,
which
includes
that
added
condition
would
vote
against
the
motion.
And
then
an
alternate
motion
would
need
to
be
made
on
that
item.
P
A
Okay,
very
good,
okay,.
A
Are
there?
Is
there
any
further
discussion.
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
before
us,
which
is
to
approve
item
c.
The
conditional
use
permit
for
plain
unit
development,
adding
a
condition
to
the
staff
recommendation
that
the
top
four
stories
be
set
back
from
the
street
at
all
points
10
or
set
back
from
the
first
story,
10
feet
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
I
A
That
motion
carries,
and
that
concludes
our
business
with
item
number.
Seven.
Next
up
is
item
number
nine.
A
Which
is
something
once
I
find
my
agenda
here.
Item
number
mine,
5234th
avenue
south
in
ward
12..
That
is
lindsay
floor
is
yours.
K
Good
evening
again,
commissioners,
the
project
before
you
is
5234th
avenue
south,
and
I
saw
the
presentation
for
a
moment,
but
if
you
can
pull
that
back
up,
this
is
at
the
southwest
corner
of
the
intersection
of
54th
street
east
and
34th
avenue.
South
the
site
is
currently
zone
c1
and
is
occupied
by
a
small
single-family
home.
That's
been
used
as
office
space.
The
site
is
just
over
7
500
square
feet.
K
Applicant
has
proposed
a
three-story
mixed-use
building
with
19
dwelling
units
and
1800
square
feet
of
office
space.
I
do
believe
that
there
was
a
typo
on
the
notice.
That's
at
29
units.
It
is
in
fact
19
units.
So
next
slide,
so
there
are
three
applications
or
sorry
four
applications
required.
This
is
a
reverse
corner
lot,
so
there
are
front
yard
front
yards
on
the
north
and
east
side,
abutting
both
streets
and
if
you'll
recall
commercial
districts
only
have
yard
requirements
where
they
are
adjacent
to
residential
districts
or
uses.
K
So
this
is
a
relatively
small
site
and
it
has
residential
uses
both
to
the
west
located
across
the
alley
and
to
the
south,
which
means
that
there
is
a
south
interior
side
yard
of
nine
feet
required
a
rear
yard
of
nine
feet
required
along
the
west.
Although
that
is
measured
from
the
midpoint
of
the
adjacent
alley
and
then
there
is
the
reflective
front
yard
setbacks
required
both
on
the
northwest
corner
and
the
southeast
corner
where
front
yards
above
residential
uses.
K
So
there
are
front
yard
setback,
variances
required
for
both
of
those
corners
and
then
there's
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
parking
requirement
from
22
spaces
to
five
spaces
in
site
plan.
Review
next
slide,
please
so
here's
the
site
it
is
located
a
kitty
corner
from
a
few
other
commercial
uses,
including
a
hardware
store
and
postal
service
or
post
office
next
slide.
K
Here's
a
site
plan,
so
you
can
see
shown
here
the
the
single
family
home
to
the
south
and
the
one
across
the
alley
as
well.
So
when
we
have
the
reflect
reflective
front
yard
setbacks,
it
requires
that
for
25
linear
feet
from
the
boundary
with
residential
use
that
the
that
the
reflective
front
yard
is
or
that
the
front
yard
is
reflected.
K
K
Although
for
measuring
on
that
that
northwest
corner
that
would
be
measured
from
the
midline
of
the
alley
for
on
those
purposes
and
so
just
for
context,
I
did
an
analysis
looking
at
kind
of
the
buildable
area
and
how
it
is
reduced
by
these
front
yard,
setback
requirements
and
the
proposed
building
covers,
I
believe,
78
percent
of
the
lot,
whereas
the
if,
if
the
building
was
compliant
with
both
of
these
required
setbacks,
it
would
reduce
the
buildable
area
to
66
percent
of
the
lot
next
slide.
Please
here
are
the
floor.
K
Plans
proposed
so
that
there
is
a
1800
square
foot
office,
space
proposed
with
frontage
on
34th
avenue,
south
and
the
19
units
with
one
unit
on
the
ground
floor,
that's
the
accessible
unit.
There
are
five
parking
spaces
and
bicycle
parking
in
the
garage
there
next
slide,
please
and
then
the
upper
story
plan,
so
there's
a
mix
of
studios,
one
bedrooms
and
a
couple
of
two
bedrooms
as
well
next
slide,
and
just
so
this.
K
This
proposed
three
story:
building
the
three
stories
is
allowed
in
the
c1
district
when
the
building
complies
with
the
mixed
use
density
bonus.
So
as
long
as
50
of
the
ground
floor
is
provided
as
a
commercial
space,
the
building
can
increase
both
the
floor
area
ratio
by
20
and
the
height
by
another
half
story
to
allow
for
the
three
stories
in
height.
K
So
here
is
the
proposed
elevations
and
the
apple
canvas
proposed
brick
metal
panel
and
fiber
cement
board
as
the
primary
building
materials
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
a
submitted
rendering
looking
at
the
building
from
the
intersection
of
52nd
and
34th
the
next
slide.
K
K
Commercial
district
is
the
one
step
up
from
that,
so
allowing
for
more,
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
a
huge
destination,
but
it
is,
you
know,
serving
the
surrounding
neighborhood
for
commercial
uses
and
then
quarter
three
allows
for
three
stories
in
height,
so
the
existing
zoning
and
the
future
guidance
in
minneapolis
2040
support
the
proposal
for
mixed
use.
Three-Story
building
here
staff
is
supportive
of
all
three
variances.
K
K
It
does
have
excellent
access
to
goods
and
services
with
a
commercial
node
located
just
two
blocks
to
the
north
along
34th
avenue
south.
There
are
some
bus
routes
in
the
area,
though
they
are
not
classified
as
high
frequency.
It's
about
0.6,
mile
away
from
the
blue
line,
lrt
and
the
minnehaha
bike
trail
and
other
bike
facilities
are
accessible
within
several
blocks
of
the
site,
so
staff
is
supportive
of
the
proposal
to
reduce
the
required
front
yard
setbacks
along
52nd
and
34th.
K
In
addition,
the
proposal
to
reduce
the
minimum
parking
requirement
is
compatible
with
the
guidance
in
minneapolis
2040
to
eliminate
off-street
parking
minimums.
So
with
that,
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
proposal
with
the
condition
stated
in
the
staff
report
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any.
N
Great
thanks:
this
is
joshua
with
collage
architect.
We
would
just
like
to
add
to
lindsay's
great
description
of
the
project.
Thank
you,
lindsey.
That's
this
unit.
Here's
19
total
units
and
seven
of
those
units
are
proposed
to
be
offered
at
fifty
fifty
percent
ami
to
a
organization
macd,
which
supports
the
reduction
of
veteran
homelessness,
so
we're
anticipating,
in
addition
to
the
you
know,
great
transit,
for
you
know,
corridor
areas
that
many
of
the
people
you
anticipate
in
the
building
may
not
need
or
want
to
have
a
card.
A
E
A
Thank
you
for
the
additional
context.
Is
there
anything
further
from
the
applicant?
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
A
All
right
hearing,
none
open
the
public
hearing
to
the
rest
of
the
folks
looking
to
testify.
E
A
A
A
A
All
right,
perhaps
we
do
not
have
anybody
to
testify
on
it
number
nine.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing,
but
reopen
it.
If
we
hear
someone
come
on
in
the
next
minute
or
two
commissioners,
we
have
four
applications
before
us:
two
setback,
variances
parking
variance
and
site
plan.
As
there
any
discussion.
A
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
all
applications:
a
b
c
and
d,
with
the
six
recommended
conditions
by
staff.
Commissioner
olsen.
F
G
A
Very
good
that
motion
carries,
and
that
concludes
our
agenda
for
the
day
kimberly.
Are
there
any
staff
updates
at
the
meeting.
P
Yeah
just
a
note,
we
will
be
discussing
this
at
committee
the
whole
on
thursday,
but
the
45
day
public
comment
period
for
the
draft,
build
form,
regulations
has
started
and
there
will
be
some
opportunities
for
the
public
to
participate
in
some
online
meetings
about
the
proposed
regulations
in
an
online
open
house
format.
There's
one
on
september,
23rd,
one
on
september
29th
and
one
on
october,
7th
that
one
will
be
more
focused
on
downtown
so
again
we'll
be
discussing
that
with
the
built.
P
A
Very
good,
thank
you
for
the
update
and
with
that
meeting
is.