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A
And
I'm
gonna
tap
into
the
announcement
and
hello
everyone.
This
is
the
december.
A
A
B
B
A
All
right,
first
up
on
our
agenda
in
my
thanks
for
your
patience
for
a
second
the
I
want
to
present
the
correct
people
for
the
here
on
the
upper
harbor
terminal.
A
Project
yeah,
I'm
harvard
terminal
people
are
here:
I'm
nathan,
gosser
from
the
apple
public
works
and
hillary
halls
of
cped
and.
C
Thanks
peter
we'll
get
started
and
then,
if
it's
all
right
with
everyone
I'll
show
you
for
the
presentation
tonight.
My
name
is
nathan,
coster
transportation,
planning
and
programming.
I'm
the
overall
project
manager
for
the
public
works
section
of
the
project,
and
I
have
a
guest
here
tonight,
I'll.
Let
hillary
introduce
herself.
D
Good
evening
or
yeah,
I
think
it's
evening
at
this
point,
everybody
I'm
hilary
holmes
and
I
work
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
the
department
of
community
planning
economic
development
cped
in
the
economic
development
division
and
I'm
working
on
the
upper
harbor
terminal
redevelopment
project
and
also
act
as
committee
staff
to
the
city's
advisory
committee.
The
upper
harbor
terminal
collaborative
planning
committee.
C
Thanks
hilary
I'll
do
a
little
introduction
for
the
group
tonight,
then
I'll.
Let
hillary
kick
it
off,
so
we
are
missing
one
person
of
our
public
works
team.
Tonight,
I'd
be
remiss
without
introducing
him
he's
out
on
furlough
today,
but
alexander
cato.
He
is
the
lead
planner
and
he's
also
going
to
be
the
lead
for
the
community
engagement
portion
of
the
public
works
project.
C
Now,
for
everyone,
who's
probably
heard
of
upper
harbor,
it's
a
very
large
and
complex
project.
We
thought
it
would
be
very
timely
to
give
an
update
right
now.
Cped
has
the
draft
coordinated
plan
out
for
public
comment.
However,
because
this
project
is
so
complex,
we
thought
we'd,
give
you
an
update
so
you're
aware
of
what
it
is,
the
timeline
and
what
to
expect
we
are
so
public
works
in
cped
are
coming
to
both
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
here
tonight,
and
then
next
week
with
bac,
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone.
C
So
with
that
being
said,
I'll
start
sharing
a
presentation.
Hillary
will
go
over
more
of
the
broad
upper
harbor
and
draft
coordinated
plan
and
then
she'll
transition
to
me
and
I'll
highlight
more
of
the
public
infrastructure
and
what
you'll
be
looking
forward
to
in
the
coming
months
from
public
works.
D
D
Getting
that
queued
up
thanks
nathan,
I've
for
a
refresher,
I'm
not
sure
if
anybody
that
is
currently
on
the
committee
or
subcommittee
has
followed
this
project
or
been
around
long
enough
to
have
seen
this
project
come
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
we
were
doing
doing
the
draft
concept
plan
for
the
redevelopment.
D
So
that's
just
a
little
more
background
and
when
you
may
have
last
heard,
we
can
touch
on
that
a
little
bit
if
you'd
like
to
advance
through
and
don't
mind
me
telling
you
to
do
so
so
again
for
some
orientation
for
the
site,
where
it's
located
a
little
more
context
for
it.
If
you're
in
case
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
it
is
48
acres,
multiple
parcels
owned
by
the
city
of
minneapolis,
formerly
operating
as
a
barge
shipping
terminal.
D
On
the
mississippi
river
in
the
mckinley
neighborhood
and
north,
the,
as
you
may
be
familiar,
the
operations
that
had
barge
traffic,
those
operations
on
site
ceased
when
the
lock
closed,
and
there
is
still
some
active
uses
on
site,
including
outdoor
storage
and
some
tenants
that
operate
businesses
that
use
that.
D
So
it
is
still
an
active
site
and
you'll
see
kind
of
the
span
north
south,
it's
about
a
mile
of
riverfront
along
the
mississippi
river
and
some
of
the
parcels
you'll
see
also
extend
to
just
at
the
freeway
I-94,
and
so
you
can
see
kind
of
where
dowling
avenue
accesses
the
site
and
then
also
the
southern
boundary
being
33rd
avenue
north.
If
you
can
advance,
please,
if
you
don't
mind
advancing
one
more,
I
think
yeah
the
next
slide.
That
makes
a
little
more
sense
to
lead
with.
D
So
I
had
mentioned
the
concept
plan
for
redevelopment
of
the
upper
harbor
terminal
site
and
what
that
work
can
entail.
We'll
touch
on
that
briefly,
but
just
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
past
five
years
again,
since
people
may
be
either
new
to
understanding
about
this
project
or
hearing
about
it
or
maybe
had
interacted
with
it
previously.
D
So
this
is
again
just
a
review
of
where
we've
been
over
the
last
five
years.
At
this
point,
so
different
phases
of
engagement,
responding
to
different
phases
of
redevelopment
planning,
the
concept
plan
and
the
coordinated
plan,
we
can
talk
a
little
more
about
and
I'll
keep
it
pretty
high
level.
D
But
just
so
you
understand
the
different
kind
of
phases
of
activity
that
have
been
occurring
over
the
last
five
years,
since
the
lock,
closed
and
request
for
qualifications
for
master
development,
went
out
and
working
alongside
the
park
board
and
with
the
selected
master
developer
united
properties
of
the
site.
Since
2017,
and
at
this
point
we
arrive
at
the
coordinated
plan.
The
draft
coordinated
plan
which
is
out
for
public
comment
right
now,
as
nathan
had
mentioned,
and
this
is
the
result
of
work
with
the
city's
advisory
committee.
D
I
mentioned
that
I
staff
the
upper
harbor
terminal
collaborative
planning
committee
who
are
really
helping
refine
and
create
the
the
work
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
of
the
concept
plan
into
the
coordinated
plan
and
if
you
can
flip
back
to
the
previous
slide
nathan,
just
a
little
more
about
who
is
involved
at
this
point.
D
So
the
city
had
created
the
advisory
committee
when
they
approved
the
concept
plan
in
march
of
2019
and
soon
after
that,
in
the
summer
mprb
created
their
own
advisory
committee
for
the
park
planning
that
have
been
meeting
and
the
concurrent
external
to
the
city.
Community
engagement
event
called
the
learning
tables,
and
I
say
you
know
I
emphasize
the
external
city
they've
been
great
partners.
D
However,
this
is
an
engagement
event,
led
by
the
by
the
groups
listed
here,
so
pillsbury
united
communities
convening
with
the
public
policy
project
and
environmental
justice
coordinating
council
through
a
grant
from
the
mcknight
foundation
to
convene
these
monthly
events
around
the
same
topic,
same
development,
topics
for
upper
harbor,
and
so
these
three
different
groups
have
been
working
together
yet
separate.
D
So
it's
part
of
the
meeting
materials,
but
this
is
to
help
people
understand
what
we've
been
hearing
over
the
last
not
just
year
and
a
half,
but
in
particular
the
last
year
and
a
half
around
these
six
project
values
and
how
the
the
redevelopment
plan
and
what's
being
proposed,
achieves
these
values,
and
so
there's
a
lot
more
about
that
in
the
plan,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
spend
time
on
the
tiny
print
so
advanced,
please,
and
so
again
I
mentioned
the
crowds
that
plan
and
the
draft
coordinated
plan,
and
we
can
gloss.
D
You
know
we
tend
to
gloss
over
over
this,
sometimes,
but
really
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
what
does
it
mean
to
have
a
concept
plan?
What
does
it
mean
to
have
a
draft
coordinated
plan
in
particular,
particularly
since
these
aren't
too
typical
planning
documents
that
exist?
I've
heard
that
people
you
know
refer
to
or
describe
the
draft
coordinate
plan
almost
more
like
a
small
area
plan
for
the
site,
because
it
is
so
large.
D
It
is
a
multi-phase
redevelopment
and
it
is
just
you
know,
just
a
different
level
of
planning,
and
so
these
are
two
milestones
that
were
part
of
the
exclusive
negotiating
rights
development
with
the
master
developer.
To
make
sure
that
we
have
these
places
to
check
in
throughout
the
read
of
a
redevelopment
planning
process,
and
so
we're
now
at
this
second
important
milestone
the
draft
coordinated
plan,
and
it
explains
a
little
more
about
what's
in
the
plan
and
if
you
can
advance
please.
D
These
are
some
renderings
that
have
been
released:
emphasis
on
renderings,
illustrative
renderings,
but
again
to
help
people.
Imagine
in
particularly
be
cut
in
particular,
because.
D
Oh
I'm
sorry,
I
have
having
wi-fi
troubles.
It
wouldn't
be
a
normal
day,
if
that
wasn't
the
case,
so
renderings
again
to
help
people.
D
Imagine
since
it
is
an
active
industrial
site
at
this
time-
or
you
know
with
you,
know,
truck
traffic,
and
I
say
industrial
meaning,
I
mean
the
outdoor
storage,
it
is
a
site
that
has
not
been
redeveloped,
and
so
there
is,
you
know,
just
another
possibility
to
to
re-envision
and
help
people
get
excited
about
and
see
a
different
feature
for
this
site,
and
so
these
are
illustrative
renderings
that
were
produced
for
the
draft
coordinated
plan
and
have
been
used
in
case
you'll
see
any
number
of
communications
about
the
project.
D
You
may
recognize
them
the
next,
please
I'm
assuming
there
are
some
things
and
those
genders
of
interest
to
this
group
as
far
as
what
it's
portraying
so
the
redevelopment
plan,
the
draft
coordinated
plan
really
the
you
know
it's
such
an
important
and
significant
time
to
connect
north
minneapolis
to
the
mississippi
river
to
make
these
connections
that
have
been
either
non-existent
or
non-existing,
non-existent,
or
also
completely
lacking
over
the
over
the
number
of
decades.
D
The
proposal
is
to
retain
public
ownership
of
the
majority
of
the
private
development
parcels.
That
is
something
that's
new
from
the
concept
plan
and
may
not
be
as
widely
known
and
so
again,
that's
why
we're
focusing
on
the
what's
proposed
as
part
of
the
development
and
then
we'll
get
into
a
quick
overview
next
and
then
also
along
with
making
that
connection
to
the
riverfront.
We
have
a
new
riverfront
park
and
then
trails
along
the
riverfront.
Again
I
mentioned
that
mile
of
riverfront,
some
of
the
real
estate
development
of
the
community
performing
arts
center.
D
You
may
have
also
referred
to
it
referred
as
the
outdoor
music
performance
venue.
That's
how
the
concept
plan
referred
to
it
and
then
the
health
and
wellness
hub
and
then
also
a
mix
of
housing,
affordable,
housing,
mixed
use,
housing,
I'm
sorry
mixed
use.
Developments
that
include
affordable
housing
has
been
very
important
that
that
housing
is
not
just
affordable
by
definition
as
terms
of
financing,
but
that
it's
attainable
to
current
north
minneapolis
residents,
opportunities
for
commercial
space
and
for
local
businesses
to
be
in
those
spaces.
D
Opportunity
for
community
ownership
here
is
referred
to
as
a
community-based
entity
to
own
or
manage
commercial
real
estate.
Community
ownership
has
been
a
very
important
topic
throughout
engagement
and
through
the
advisory
committees,
so
just
to
again
understand
if,
when
you're
seeing
the
phrase
community
entity,
that's
really
focused
on
ensuring
community
ownership
or
creating
spaces
for
ownership,
and
if
that
means
again
physical
ownership
of
real
estate
or
making
sure
that
people
are
are
welcome
and
feel
that
they
have
ownership
of
the
space.
D
So
that
is
again
a
wide
range.
There.
Sustainable
revenue
streams
proposed
to
go
back
into
the
north
side,
since
the
land
is
proposed
to
remain
in
public
ownership,
the
possibility
of
diverting
those
or
dedicating
those
annual
ground
lease
payments
to
a
separate
fund
within
the
city
to
go
back
into
the
north
side
and
focus
on
efforts
and
initiatives
around
anti-displacement
and
anti-gentrification
and
then
also
along
with
the
community
performing
arts
center.
A
ticket
fee.
D
That's
been
proposed
from
by
first
avenue,
who
is
the
development
partner
on
the
team
that
it
will
be
a
ticket
fee
on
first
avenue,
ticketed
events
and
then
that
annual
fund
would
also
be
dedicated
and
directed
by
community
to
go
towards
priorities,
efforts
that
are
important
to
the
community
there
and
then
also
not
just
construction
jobs
but
bringing
living
wage,
permanent
jobs
to
the
site
as
well,
and
a
range
of
career
ladders
and
opportunities.
D
This
is,
I
believe,
page
11
in
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
I
think
it's
in
there
twice,
but
again,
this
is
the
overview
of
both
phases.
It's
currently
phase
one
and
phase
two
of
development
phase.
One
is
really
focused
on
dowling
avenue,
reinforcing
dowling
avenue
reinforcing
the
park
that
would
go
in
as
you'll
see
are
right
at
the
river
and
dowling,
and
so
there
are
two
mixed-use
affordable
housing
developments
that
are
proposed
as
part
of
phase
one
on
dowling.
D
Thank
you
nathan
and
then
also
the
park
so
part
of
the
park.
Improvements
will
be
part
of
phase
one.
The
community
performing
arts
center
is
advancing
as
part
of
phase
one
and
then
infrastructure.
So
there's
phase
one
infrastructure
as
well
around
both
dowling,
and
I
won't
veer
too
much
into
this
nathan
can
speak
to
it
much
better
than
I
can
and
will
be
doing
so
so,
to
give
you
some
sense
and
then,
on
the
very
what
is
the
southern
end
of
the
site
at
33rd?
D
D
Don't
know
if
I've
gone
over
time,
I
apologize,
but
we
can
skip
ahead
to
kind
of
again
what's
planned
for
the
next
couple
months
as
we're
in
the
public
comment
period,
the
cpc
released
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
We
released
the
draft
coordinating
plan
for
public
comment
at
the
beginning
of
december.
D
D
D
Can
you
skip
thanks?
So
yes,
so
again,
I
won't
read
through
this
in
detail.
Hopefully
you
have
heard
about
this
before
tonight,
but
in
case
you
haven't,
there's
a
number
of
ways
and
I
would
really
encourage
people
to
go
to
the
project
website
which
is
upperharbourmpls.com.
D
We
had
an
open
house
on
december
15th
and
that
recording
is
now
on
the
project
website,
there's
a
second
city
online,
open
house
on
january
5th
and
then
a
couple
of
other
events
in
january,
one
in
particular
with
hosted
by
the
mckinley
community,
and
so
that's
an
online
conversation
on
sunday
january
10th
and
there
is
an
additional
partner
event
online
event
in
the
works
for
the
beginning
of
january
and
then
various
updates
at
north
and
northeast
neighborhood
organizations.
D
I
believe,
will
be
at
afcac
tomorrow
evening,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
above,
the
falls
community
advisory
committee
and
then
yeah
we'll
be
around.
I
just
check
out
the
events
calendar,
I'm
very
happy
to
answer
questions
and
thank
you
for
time
on
your
agenda
and
for
letting
me
provide
an
update,
it's
good
to
yeah,
it's
good
to
see
everybody.
A
Thank
you,
hilary
we're
open
for
questions
and
discussion.
Is
there
any
other
component
of
this
prediction
and,
as
far
as
slides
as.
C
C
All
right
thanks
peter
and
thanks
hillary,
so
we
want
to
give
an
overview
public
works
as
far
as
like
what
the
planning
phase
was
looking
like
for
infrastructure
for
those
you
looking
for
layouts
and
concepts,
that's
not
where
we're
here.
What
we
have
to
share
tonight,
we're
still
very
much
at
the
high
level
more
of
the
framework
of
what
we're
looking
at
for
the
site
and
the
reason
why
we
want
to
partially
come
in
two
phases
here
is
to
talk
about
how
we're
tying
in
with
a
coordinated
plan
and
what
that
works.
C
C
C
So
what
we
want
to
highlight
today
is
just
a
continued
effort
of
showing
how
we're
rolling
out
both
street
and
utility
infrastructure
to
make
this
site
suitable
for
not
only
opening
up
the
riverfront
for
the
north
side,
community
more
broadly,
but
also
as
hillary
alluded
to
the
housing,
the
jobs
the
park
and
just
overall
access
to
a
great
opportunity
for
north
side
residents
who
don't
have
access
to
the
river.
Currently.
C
The
the
table
and
or
excuse
me,
the
map
you
see
on
the
screen
just
highlights
the
phases
primarily
we're
focusing
on
the
dowling
connection,
and
this
was
the
scope
was
expanded,
since
we
showed
this
last
time
really
to
highlight
the
stretch
of
dowling.
That
is,
on
the
vision,
zero
high
injury
network.
So
we
are
extending
that
connection
into
the
neighborhood
to
really
make
sure
that
we
are
focusing,
invest,
investing
on
the
streets
that
are
some
of
the
most
challenging
in
the
city
and
making
sure
that
connects
all
the
way
into
the
neighborhood.
C
The
other
part
of
street
is
really
focusing
on
the
first
phase
of
the
parkway,
so
the
northern
half,
to
connect
to
the
primary
areas
where
there's
phase
one
investments,
as
well
as
a
short
stretch
of
33rd
avenue,
to
provide
another
connection
to
the
northside
community
closer
to
lowry
avenue.
Some
of
the
utilities
that
we're
focusing
on
is
we're
coordinating
with
excel
energy
to
relocate
the
overhead
transmission
wires
right
now.
C
What
we're
calling
upper
doweling
this
is
from
lindale
down
to
the
riverfront.
Currently,
this
stretch
has
back
of
sidewalk
curb
on-street
bike
lanes
and
it's
a
very
challenging
stretch
and
for
multi-modal
connections
in
the
neighborhood
and,
as
I
had
mentioned,
this
was
on
the
vision,
zero,
high
injury
network
right
now.
This
is
just
an
illustrative
concept
that
we've
been
working
up
with
the
team:
that's
showing
ability
to
get
boulevards
in
trees,
pedestrian
scale,
lighting
and
converting
on-street
bike
lanes
to
what
we're
tentatively
thinking
as
a
multi-use
path.
C
C
As
we
look
at
upper
dowling
as
we're
calling
this
is,
this
stretch
would
come
from
the
neighborhood
down
across
the
I-94
corridor
and
into
the
site
right
now,
we're
showing
some
illustrative
concepts
where
we'd
be
looking
to
move
bike
facilities
off
street,
as
I
mentioned,
and
also
innovative
treatments
for
bridging
the
gap
over
the
I-94
freeway
right
now.
This
is
a
bridge
that
is
owned
by
mndot.
However,
we
have
been
working
really
closely
with
them
to
see
what
type
of
treatments
that
we
can
do
on
the
bridge.
C
This
is
an
example
of
what
was
done
recently
26
ab
north.
This
would
be
on
something
on
the
low
end.
C
As
we
get
closer
to
the
riverfront,
we
would
be
looking
at
more
of
a
standard
parkway
with
separate
bicycle
trails
and
pedestrian
paths,
and
this
is
an
area
where
we
really
like
to
focus
on
innovative
storm
water.
As
well
as
reestablishing
healthy
trees,
as
well
as
pedestrian
scale
and
parkway
lighting,
one
of
the
other
areas
that
we
do
want
to
focus
on.
We
have
heard
a
bit
from
the
community
is
right.
C
Now,
there's
really
one
accessible
entrance
for
walking
and
biking
because
of
the
way
that
cpetit
and
the
coordinated
planning
committee
have
wanted
to
prioritize
living
wage
jobs.
One
of
the
development
parcels
on
the
southern
end
of
the
site,
near
33rd,
is
for
the
production
and
processing
development
parcels
and
one
of
the
things
that
we'd
like
to
explore
is
try
to
find
ways
to
in
further
prioritize
and
find
a
way
to
get
walking
and
biking
connections
as
well
as
upgrade
the
rail
crossings
to
be
fully
accessible.
C
So
this
is
extremely
critical
because,
as
hillary
said,
there's
one
mile
of
riverfront
and
to
have
such
big
gaps
and
accessible
entrances
for
walking
and
biking
would
be
very
challenging
for
the
community.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
early
on
and
we're
working
to
try
to
find
ways
to
get
that
accomplished
through
this
project.
C
C
Another
major
theme
is:
there's
been
long-standing
harm
from
the
construction
of
I-94
and
that's
been
a
consistent
theme.
We've
heard
from
the
neighborhood
and
just
being
able
to
address
and
overcome
that
barrier
through
infrastructure
we're
doing
as
much
as
we
can
to
prioritize
that
connectivity
over
the
interstate,
as
I've
said,
consistently
riverfront
oriented
experience
with
a
focus
on
green
infrastructure
and
then
continuing
to
find
ways
to
support
existing
and
future
transit
services
and
working
with
our
partners
with
metro
transit
to
not
only
evaluate
what
the
service
needs
are
now,
but
into
the
future.
C
As
far
as
intent
and
project
goals,
making
sure
information
is
readily
available
on
the
upper
harbor
website.
Strengthening
relationship
with
the
key
north
side,
communities
with
between
the
project,
stakeholders
and
the
project
team,
creating
desirable
infrastructure
and
public
realm
elements
that
reflect
the
community
and
create
a
comment,
create
community
excitement
and
sense
of
ownership,
which
is
a
reason
why
we're
focusing
on
public
art
so
early
in
this
project
and
trying
to
integrate
it
into
the
infrastructure
and
then
ensuring
public
questions
and
concerns
are
heard
through
the
overall
project
process.
C
As
far
as
timeline
we've,
our
team
that
we
have
on
board,
we've
been
closely
coordinating
with
cped
as
they've
been
advancing
the
coordinated
plan.
But
now
we're
about
to
launch
into
our
our
typical
layout
process,
which
is
why
we
want
to
make
sure
you
everyone
here
in
the
pac
and
then
next
week
at
the
bac
understands
what
the
coordinated
plan
is
and
then
why
we'll
immediately
be
coming
back
to
show
more
layouts
and
designs.
C
As
far
as
engagement
clearly
we're
still
in
a
virtual
environment,
and
we
we
don't
have
the
crystal
ball
as
far
as
the
timeline
of
when
we'll
be
out
of
this.
So
we're
continuing
to
rely
on
as
many
relationships
in
the
community
to
spread
the
word
through
many
as
avenues
as
we
can.
We
have
still
some
traditional
venues
as
far
as
mailings,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
going
to
be
digital
nature,
we'll
be
using
the
project
website
that
we've
shared
in
this
materials.
C
I've
also
put
in
the
chat
upper
harbor
mpls,
we'll
have
all
the
project
info
information.
The
engagement
timeline
we'll
be
using
interactive
and
online
surveys,
so
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
and
then,
as
far
as
the
engagement
as
I
said,
open
houses,
but
then
we're
also
setting
up
key
focus
group
meetings
with
key
stakeholder
stakeholders
in
the
community.
C
So
I
know
that's
a
ton
of
information.
It
is
a
really
big
project
and
that's
why
I
want
everyone
to
know
tonight's,
but
one
step
we're
coming
back
immediately
in
the
next
couple
weeks
to
talk
more
about
layouts
from
the
public
works
side,
but
I'll
kind
of
pause
there
and
hillary,
and
I
can
stand
by
for
questions
I
I
know
there's
a
lot
so
thanks
for
hanging
in
there
and
listening
to
us.
A
Sure,
thank
you
thanks
david
and
with
a
great
use
of
our.
A
30
minutes
appreciate
those
two
presentations
and,
with
their
short
cycle,
return
to
back
next
month
in
mind.
What
are
I'm
opening
before
for
questions
or
comments
that
would
be
people
think
are
suited
to
today's
today's
presentations.
F
I'm
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
you
mentioned
public
heart,
a
fair
amount
that
gets
me
thinking
about
benches
and
bathrooms,
and
I'm
wondering
how
integrated,
if
you've
started
thinking
about
those
fundamental
pieces
and
how
they
might
work
or
be
part
of
sort
of
the
face.
The
benches
in
particular.
C
I
I
had
a
little
bit
of
an
echo
during
the
question,
so
I
apologize.
I
just
asked
you
to
repeat
that.
I'm
sorry,
julia.
C
We
haven't
made
any
determination,
yet
that's
why
we're
here
early
early
on
well,
we
haven't
started
the
engagement
community,
so
we
haven't
determined
what
the
public
art
is
yet,
so
it's
it's
definitely
open,
and
what
we
did
forget
to
mention
is
a
park
board
isn't
here
tonight
they
had
a
conflict,
but
they
are
also
working
as
part
of
the
development
of
the
park
and
they're
on
the
same
website,
so
they
would
have
potential
buildings
and
restrooms
and
other
facilities,
and
I
can
pass
that
along
to
park
board,
but
I
know
that's
something
that
they
would
be
looking
at
as
well
as
public
restrooms
as
a
part
of
any
shelter
pavilions
that
they
would
have
on
site.
G
Is
there
any
involvement
or
interaction
with
the
possible
widening
of
I-94
in
that
area?
I
think
that's
still
under
discussion
about
adding
the
lane
there
is
that
something
that
might
affect
anything
or
would
require
coordination.
C
Thanks
chris
for
christopher
sorry
yeah,
we
have
been
working
really
closely
with
mndot
they're,
clearly
a
partner.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
call
everyone's
attention.
C
I
know
it's
been
a
long
time
since
this
played
out,
but
minneapolis
public
works
did
make
a
pretty
strong
resolution
through
city
council
about
our
stance
on
the
I-94
252
project
and
our
stance
that
we
would
like
to
see
lanes
converted
to
hov
your
transit
as
compared
to
any
lane
expansion,
and
just
so
everyone's
aware
that
that
project
is
is
under
a
little
bit
of
a
reboot
and
has
been
reclassified
to
an
eis
and
that'll,
be
re-kicking
off
sometime
in
early
2021..
C
So
what's
an
eis
eis
is
an
environmental
impact
statement
as
compared
to
before
it
was
an
ea
which
is
an
environmental
assessment,
and
it
basically
defines
what
the
potential
impacts
of
the
project
are
based
upon
its
scope
and
one
of
the
key
things.
There's
they're
now
going
to
be
reupdating
their
project
and
need
statement.
That's
required
a
part
of
the
federal
nepa
process.
National
environmental
protection
act
and
part
of
that
will
now
include
looking
at
transit
such
as
highway
brt.
C
D
Thanks
for
that
question,
as
far
as
block
size
goes,
the
the
site
will
have
to
go
through
re-planning,
so
that
will
be
process
that's
beginning
soon
there
will
be
a
number
of
parcels.
The
whole
48
acres
needs
to
be
replanted
and
so
the
general
boundaries.
D
I
think
you
you
can
see
as
part
of
the
draft
coordinated
plan,
and
that
is
you
know,
I
would
say
it's
again
from
concept
plan
to
coordinated
plan,
the
concept
plan
assigning
some
new
general
parcel
boundaries
and
that
has
been
carried
through
the
draft
concept
plan,
but
anything
more
official
than
that
will
be
happening
after
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
F
D
I
think
I'll
I'll
just
maybe
try
to
touch
on
that
quick
and
then,
if
nathan
has
has
a
follow-up.
So
I
think
another
site,
I'll
say
constraint
or
challenge
is
that
there
is
an
active
rail
line
that
runs
north
south
and
so
on.
This
particular
area
you'll
see
and
maybe
nathan.
D
If
you
still
have
the
screen,
you
can
be
motioned
to
it
thanks
so
dowling
and
33rd
both
crossed
the
active
rail
and
so
as
far
as
other
crossings,
they're
limited
to
those
two
crossings,
and
then
the
sidewalk
and
other
trails
continuous
along
the
riverfront
would
be
yep.
Is
that
helpful.
F
It's
helpful,
but
I
guess
I
completely
understand
that.
There's
current
constraints
that
may
or
may
not
continue,
I'm
more
concerned
about
like
giant
buildings,
giant
entertainment,
centers
that
make
it
difficult
to
realize.
Suddenly,
there's
a
strong
wind
coming
down
the
mississippi
and
you
want
to
be
a
little
bit
protected
and
buffered
by
buildings.
The
being
able
to
have
more
frequent
cut.
Throughs
is
really
lovely
for
walkability
and
our
block
lengths
are
pretty
long
in
minneapolis.
D
Oh
thanks,
yeah,
that's
a
yeah!
Thank
you
for
clarifying.
I
definitely
appreciate
that
that
comment,
and
I
think
also
just
to
note
that,
as
far
as
individual
developments,
they
will
each
go
through
a
more
typical
land
use
approvals
process,
and
so,
if,
if
that's
helpful
to
you
as
far
as
one
design
would
be
happening,
so
there
will
be
still
yet
to
be
design
and
land
use
approvals
for
each
individual
development
across
the
site,
including
the
community
performing
arts
center.
F
My
understanding
is
that
as
the
pack,
we
only
see
public
works
projects,
so
anything
in
cped
doesn't
come
in
front
of
us
unless
it's
really
atypical-
and
I
don't
know
if
it
would
so
I'm
more
curious
about
in
the
planning,
maybe
or
any
requirements.
I
don't
know
how
the
sort
of
easements
and
keeping
right
away
clear
would
work
like
the
block
sizes
in
the
north.
Loop
are
just
it's
really
frustrating
when
you're
accidentally,
one
block
off
and
you
can't
cut
over
for
forever.
F
C
I
would
say
in
the
draft
coordinated
plan,
it
is
open
for
public
comment
now
and
then,
as
I
alluded
to
previously,
this
is
still
going
through
our
traditional
layout
approval
process,
so
we
will
be
coming
back
for
zero
percent
in
january
and
then
30
percent-
and
it's
probably
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
highlight
33rd
as
well
as
dowling
is.
C
We
are
very
aware
of
the
block
spacing
and
the
gaps
here,
especially
if
we
only
invested
in
30
and
in
dowling
and
did
not
have
any
walking
and
biking
improvements
on
33rd,
because
we
know
there's
the
active
rail
line,
which
would
require
bridges
as
well
as
there's
private
property
abutting
the
other
side
of
the
rail
tracks
for
a
majority
of
the
corridor.
So
we
know
there's
active
challenges
there.
F
So
sorry,
to
keep
asking
is
there
if
we
wanted
to
do
a
resolution
about
that?
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
do
now,
or
would
we
just
wait
till
either
zero
percent
or
30
percent,
not
necessarily
for
building
these
roads
yet,
but
for
keeping
the
right
of
ways
there
and
that
that
potential
for
them?
If
the
rails
go
out
that
might
be
coming
here,
whatever
it
is
like
not
locking
ourselves
in
with
giant
buildings
with
no
alleys
or
little
covered
walkways.
H
This
is
matthew
julia,
I
think
zero
or
thirty
percent
feels
appropriate
to
me.
E
A
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
them?
I
I
just
don't
want
the
same
on
the
same
line.
See
about
the
connections
across
94
and
33rd
avenue
will
be
open
for
this
question
in
the
presentation
next
month.
Being
a
huge
part
of
whether
this
project
becomes
is
what's
a
degree
because
it's
a
car
only
or
a
car
two
car
intensive
destination
is
gonna
depend
so
strongly
on
the
on
the
quality
of
the
connections.
C
Yeah-
and
I
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
ahead
of
myself,
because
I
don't
have
anything
to
speak
to,
but
the
principles
of
narrowing
the
lane,
with
shortening
the
crossings,
tightening
the
radius
elevated
table
crossings
for
the
trail
prioritizing
as
much
space
behind
the
curb
having
buffers
and
trees
like
those
are
all
the
things.
We're
posting
as
much
as
we
can
with
mndot
the
county
and
our
project
partners,
and
I
I'll
be
back
in
a
couple
weeks
and
I'll
I'll,
be
willing,
willing
and
able
and
excited
to
hear
your
feedback.
C
But
that
has
been
the
theme
that
we've
heard
throughout
and
there's
clearly
people
up
there
who
might
think
that
it's
already
congested
for
vehicles.
But
we
are
we
already
know.
This
is
a
high
injury
network,
there's
disproportionate
inc
outcomes
for
people
walking
and
biking,
and
it's
a
significant
barrier
that,
for
the
last
40
years,
has
resulted
in
inequitable
outcomes
for
this
community.
A
C
So
we'll
be
back
in
a
couple
weeks
and
we'll
have
more
of
the
layouts
specific,
but
in
the
interim
I
wanted
to
make
sure
there's
a
very
complicated
process
of
internal
city
approvals.
It's
a
very
unique
project,
hillary's
looking
for
feedback
on
the
draft
coordinated
plan,
but
just
so
everyone
knows
we're
still
coming
back
for
the
full
layout
approval.
This
will
still
have
to
go
through
all
the
environmental
reviews
through
the
aer
planning
commission.
So
there's
one
of
many
steps.
C
We
still
have
a
lot
of
work
left
to
go
and
want
to
make
sure
anyone
have
questions
about
the
schedule
and
process
that
they
had
that
time
and
they
know
we
will
be
back.
A
All
right,
that's
next
up
somebody,
I
thought
something.
Otherwise
we
have.
The
segment
of
our
agenda
goes
to
welcoming
hot
morning
mentoring,
new
members.
F
F
I've
made
a
short
list
of
a
few
things
to
talk
about,
but
I
know
that
matthew
also
had
some
stuff
to
to
discuss
with
us
around
like
the
coming
up
full
pack
meeting
and
what
we
might
need
to
have
done
by
then
matthew.
Do
you
want
to
talk
to
us
about
that?
Or
do
you
want
me
to
give
my
list.
H
Well,
maybe
maybe
I'll
start
just
setting
the
context
for
the
discussion.
First
of
all,
I'm
very
excited.
We
have
three
new
members
joining
us.
You
know
first
meeting
in
january,
so
this
is
exciting
time
to
get
prepared
to
welcome
them
and
then
just
for
the
whole
committee
kind
of
get
back
on
on
track
with
orientation
and
onboarding
ideas
and
and
re-center
some
some
different
things.
H
So
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
just
to
start
and
I'll
go
through
this
fairly
quickly
and
then
hopefully
we
can
take
the
rest
of
the
time
to
see
what
you
all
are
thinking,
and
you
know,
flesh
out
these
ideas,
I'll
take
notes,
kind
of
live
as
well,
and
then
we
can
follow
up
at
subsequent
meetings,
okay
and
share
my
screen
and
also
talk
through
this
verbally
as
well.
So
the
what
I
did
in
sort
of
preparation
for
this
is
look
back
at
ways.
H
We've
done
this
in
the
past
and
I
think
there
are
good
lessons
from
the
past
on
on
onboarding
and
welcoming
and
then
also
things
that
we
may
be
able
to
improve
on
and
do
better
and
that's
what
we
want
to
see
what
you
think
tonight.
H
So
a
couple
basics,
the
first
full
meeting
in
january.
We
need
to
go
through
an
election
process
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
at
the
executive
committee
tomorrow
about
how
to
do
that.
But
I
think
that's
also
a
good
opportunity
to
talk
through
the
different
roles
as
well
of
the
different
officers
and
I'll
just
share
that
a
little
bit
right
now.
H
So
I
think
that'll
be
important
and
then
I
looked
and
found
an
orientation
in
the
past
for
new
members,
and
I
was
thinking
we
could
do
some
basic
introductions
and
actually
sorry
not
basic,
take
some
time
and
really
spend
time.
Getting
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
so
for
new
members,
we
can
have
some
questions
about
what
they're
looking
forward
to
or
what
they
may
hope
to
achieve,
or
why
they're
interested
in
the
pack
returning
members,
some
things
about.
H
You
know
why
why
you
enjoy
the
committee
or
what
you
what
you
what's
something
you're
proud
of,
and
then
just
some
icebreaker
questions
and
all
of
this
all
that
I'm
going
over.
We
can
we
can
sort
of,
modify
and
we'll
prepare
with
the
assistance
of
the
well
the
conversation
today
and
then
the
executive
committee
tomorrow
and
then
the
other
item
is
just
going
over
the
roles
of
the
subcommittee
in
full.
That's
also
part
of
the
presentation
just
making
sure
that
that
people
understand
what
engineering
is,
what
types
of
projects
go
there.
H
H
So,
and
I
don't
know
exactly
what
to
call
this-
I
don't
have
a
cool
name
for
it,
but
meeting
norms,
processes,
ideas,
talk
about
some
things
like
subcommittee,
expectations
versus
full
committee
and
like
how
we
create
agendas
around
that
julia
had
an
idea
that
I'll
I'll-
let
you
talk
about
in
a
second
but
just
a
list
of
acronyms
and
like
some
of
those
technical
public
worksy
things
kind
of
like
when
nathan
was
talking
about
nepa
and
other
things.
H
Somebody
asked
you
know
what
is
that,
so
just
making
sure
that
we,
we
have
an
understanding
of
that,
and
then
I
have
a
list
of
other
things
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
So
a
presentation
guide.
This
was
your
idea.
You
created
this
with
a
little
bit
of
assistance,
and,
and
so
we
have
a
presentation
guide
for
staff
that
come
to
the
committee.
F
H
Yep,
so
it
is
a
one
pager,
so
different
things
of
what
to
talk
about
at
zero
percent.
30
accessibility,
that
type
of
thing-
and
we
can
revisit
all
this
there's
then
there's
resolution
guidance.
I
think
this
is
something
that's
that's
really
important
to
revisit
as
well
and
think
through
how
to
write
effective
resolutions.
H
I
guess
that's
all
I
have
on
that
and
then
I
sort
of
have
a
need
to
know
document
that
I
share
every
so
often
so
things
like
the
minneapolis
complete
streets
policy.
You
know
our
transportation
action
plan.
I
got
to
update
this
ahead
of
next
week.
Twenty
first
responding
plan.
You
know
what
the
like,
how
we
develop
our
cip
and
and
share
that
website
in
a
variety
of
things
like
that,
and
I
think
of
a
few
more
things.
H
We
could
also
revisit
the
strategic
priority
work
that
you
all
have
done
over
the
past
couple
years
and
we,
our
current
state
of
that
is
oh
and
and
chris
was
out
today.
I
don't
think
we
said
that,
but
he's
out
today,
so
we
have
a
spreadsheet
of
former
priority
work
areas
that
you
all
have
come
up
with,
and
this
is
this
is
something
we
haven't
revisited
it
for
a
while
and
so
be
good
to
do
that
and
then.
H
Finally,
this
is
my
idea
that
I'm
very
interested
in
is,
I
wanna
I
wanna
go
through
like
a
little
homework
exercise.
I
have
a
link
and
and
just
talk
through
principles
of
negotiation.
H
It's
something
that
I've
been
thinking
about
a
lot
lately
with
just
conversations
between
the
pac
and
and
public
works
project
managers.
It's
a
fun,
storyboard
type
of
link
and
I'll
share
this.
Whenever
we
decide
to
have
this
on
the
agenda,
but
basically
principles
of
effective
negotiation
and
I'd
love
to
talk
through
with
the
committee.
H
You
know
how
renegotiating
nagori
negotiating
between
public
works
and
the
pack
and
like
where
is
this
group's
power?
What
does
success?
Look
like
and
different
things
like
that,
and
I
just
think
that
could
be
a
fun
conversation,
so
I'm
gonna
stop
there.
That's
sort
of
a
starting
point
that
I've
sort
of
put
together
and
would
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
and
ideas
and
what
you
think
of
this
and
other
other
ways
we
can
move
forward
and
I'll.
Take
notes.
H
H
E
J
I
Well,
I
know
how
to
get
back
in.
I
suppose
I
might.
H
J
So
matthew,
you're,
saying
that
the
first
half
the
you
know
the
for
the
first
full
meeting
and
then
you're
saying
the
rest
of
the
stuff
will
come
during
subsequent
meetings
in
at
pmp,
and
I
like
that
idea.
Hopefully
you
know
a
lot
of
them
would
be
at
the
first
pnp
meeting
and
we
could
let
people
know
or
not
a
lot
of
them
but,
like
I
know
certain
things
we
can
make
sure
the
new
members
are
aware
of
that,
because
we,
if
they're,
not
interested
in
pnp,
consistently
being
like
on
the
pmp.
J
H
I
I
got
slightly
distracted.
There
is
the
idea
that
we
should
do
do
what
at
the
first
pmp,
maybe.
J
To
make
sure
that
the
new
members
are
aware
when
these
are
covered
like
like
I
would,
the
chair
could
send
a
specific
email
to
just
be
like
hey
by
the
way
at
this
pmp
we're
covering
some
stuff
that
maybe
you
wouldn't
know,
because
you're
a
new
member.
So
if
you
don't
frequently
go
to
pmp
meetings,
you
might
want
to
come
to
this.
One,
I
think,
is
what
I
meant.
A
F
J
Yeah
and
then
yeah
so
and
then
at
the
at
the
full
meeting
in
january,
given
the
election
of
officers,
obviously,
but
my
thought
was
just
because
I
was
thinking
about
it
is
the
chair
should
still
maybe
not
go
through
all
meetings,
meeting,
norms
and
processes,
but
kind
of
just
give
a
quick.
J
I
think
statement
just
as
to
like
to
reiterate
to
all
members
as
well
as
new
members
that,
like
it,
is
expected
as
much
as
possible
that
people
should
attend
at
least
one
subcommittee
meeting
every
month
and
just
to
kind
of
let
them
know
like
that
is
where
the
work
gets
done
and
then
also
just
kind
of
remind
them
that,
like
the
flow
of
information,
so
often
like
we
see
presentations
or
we
discuss
topics
at
our
subcommittees,
either
ione
or
pnp.
J
We
discuss
them,
we
kind
of
get
into
the
weeds
we
really
dig
in,
and
then
we
put
together
a
resolution
either
during
the
meeting
or
right
after
the
meeting
via
email.
And
then
then
that
goes
to
the
full
meeting.
And
so
then,
the
really
the
full
meeting
is
a
lot
of
reporting
out
on
like
what
happened
at
subcommittees
and
then
maybe
like
infrequently.
J
You
know,
maybe
50
of
the
time
at
a
full
meeting
will
also
get
a
presentation
of
something
maybe
kind
of
bigger
or
more
important,
like
you
know,
like
the
transportation
action
plan
would
come
to.
You
know
the
full
meeting
just
so
that
they
kind
of
understand
like
where
the
work
gets
done
and
how
the
flow
kind
of
moves
so
that
they
aren't
confused,
because
that,
like
the
first
meeting,
we're
literally
gonna
be
like
here
are
some
reports
on
things
you
never
saw
you
know,
so
they
kind
of
get.
J
Why
and
how
the
meetings
flow.
I
thought
that
might
be
a
good
thing
for,
like
maybe
the
chair,
to
cover.
After
all,
the
things
are
discussed
so.
F
I
so
I'm
in
agreement
with
that.
I'm
not
sure,
there's
some
stuff
that
we
that
I
have
in
mind
for
that
should
probably
happen
in
the
first
full
committee
around
onboarding
and
then
there's
a
sort
of
subset
of
what
are
the
next
few
means
of
pnp
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
best
path
to
go
down
right
now
is
and
if
people
are
still
responding
to
matthew's
document.
H
H
F
Before
we
move
on
from
your
document,
I
think
we
need
a
win
to
know
document.
Besides
the
need
to
know-
and
I
guess
that's
the
fourth
bullet
point-
but
I
think
something
that
that
sort
of
explains
the
0
30
the
different
points
where
we
hear
things
and
the
different
levels
that
they
are,
but
also
like
when
different
things
happen
in
click
and
in
capital,
improvements.
H
Okay,
I
have
that
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
reframe
what
happens
in
a
typical
year
as
when
to
know
yeah.
F
And
I
want
to
also
include
things
like
like
one
of
the
when
we're
recruiting
people
when
we
want
to
start
discussing
it
in
the
pnp,
because
that's
so
far
not
been
systematized
in
the
way
that
it
seems
like
you're,
starting
to
get
things
that
the
more
of
us
can
share
that
information.
The
better.
I.
F
To
move
on
to
like
this
coming
full
board
meeting
we've
with
the
onboarding
my
thinking
right
now
is
that
it
needs
to
be
pretty
different
with
a
pandemic,
and
I
don't
tend
to
like
the
one-on-one
buddy
system
for
newcomers.
Just
because,
if
you
have
personality
mismatches,
there's
kind
of
a
pressure
to
go
through
one
person
as
a
gatekeeper
almost
or
it
can
feel
that
way.
Rather
than
setting
sort
of
a
core
group
of
people
who
are
saying
message
me.
If
you
have
questions
and
I'll
get
back
to
you
like
reach
out.
F
If
you
want
explanations,
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
maybe
figure
out
who
has
the
interest
and
capacity
and
being
a
point
of
contact
for
new
members
and
if
we
can
also,
along
with
that
set
up
some,
maybe
for
the
first
three
months,
rotate
a
different
person
of
us
through
or
I
guess
it's
just
us,
because
we
default
committee's
next
meeting.
F
But
any
of
us
who
can
commit
to
like
a
a
half
hour
phone
call
with
a
new
member
once
a
month
and
just
talking
to
a
different
new
member
each
month,
so
that
they're
getting
like
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
full
half
hour,
but
just
having
a
little
bit
of
that
contact.
That
can
go
beyond
the
formality
of
what
we
do
in
the
meeting
so
that
people
feel
like
they
can
put
personality
to
faces
to
voices.
All
of
that
that
would
be.
H
Can
can
you
summarize
really
concisely
what
you
just
said
so
like
what
I
what
I
heard
and
what
I,
what
I
think
makes
a
lot
of
sense
is
like
you
want
to
like
set
up
a
way
for
I'm
just
going
to
call
them
legacy,
because
you
know
existing
old,
you
know
whatever,
but
so
back
members
who
have
been
on
like
and
the
new
members
you
want
to
like
get
them.
F
And-
and
I
want
it
to
be
people
who
sort
of
self-select
of
the
legacy
members
who
self-select
and
say
yeah,
I
am
into
this-
I
can
do
it
so
that
it
isn't
just
like
it
relieves
pressure
on
the
new
members
to
do
the
outreach.
We
will
be
contacting
them
and
it
will
be
people
who
who
are
wanting
to
talk
more
about
sidewalks
or
whatever,
who
are
going
to
be
the
ones
doing
that
contact
and
figuring
it
out.
J
I
like
this
idea
and
my
thought
for
it
would
be
maybe
like
maybe
instead
of
certain
introduction
questions,
you
know
the
icebreakers
part
of
that
could
be
in
the
icebreaker
and
then
it
could
be
like
I'm
going
to
drop
my
email
in
the
chat.
So
if
you
want
to
reach
out
to
me
about
any
of
this
stuff
reach
out,
you
know
like
I'm
available,
and
so
then
you
can
opt
into
being
available
and
then
also
it's
like
covered
in
the
introduction.
So
you
actually
like,
maybe
you
jive
with
somebody
like
you,
want
to
talk.
J
F
Great
to
do
it
I
want,
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
like
people
are
thinking
through
what
it
involves-
and
I
do
ideally,
I
really
would
love
if
we
can
do
like
that
outreach.
So
it
isn't
just
waiting
for
them
to
contact
us
and
it
isn't
just
one
of
us
contacting
one
of
them,
but
like
they'll
get
three:
maybe
they
don't
respond,
but
over
the
first
three
months,
they'll
get
an
email
from
a
specific
pac
member
and
a
different
one
each
month.
Something
like
that.
G
I
think
I
like
the
idea-
and
I
like
that
the
impetus
should
be
on
the
legacy
members
to
make
the
contact,
and
I
think
maybe
we
could
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone
by
having
when
the
subcommittee
agendas
come
out,
that
a
an
executive
committee
member
or
a
subcommittee
co-chair
reach
out
to
discuss
that
agenda
and
what
the
meeting
will
likely
consist
of
just
to
one
import.
The
importance,
the
in
your
highlight
the
importance
of
spending
a
sub-community
meeting
kind
of
talk
about.
G
These
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we
talk
about
on
this
subcommittee
and
three
give
them.
Then
that's
gives
them
a
perfect
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
or
just
kind
of
segue
into
more.
Like
you
know,
you
know:
do
these
kind
of
issues
interest
you
or
like
what
you
know,
I
mean
I
think,
take
advantage
of
the
agenda
for
the
subcommittees
for
the
first
three
months,
I
think
would
be
an
opportunity.
F
That
sounds
awesome.
The
one
thing
that
I
would
be
slightly
hesitant
on
is
that
it
puts
those
communications
on
the
co-chairs
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
do
that
and
I
have
the
time,
but
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
other
people.
I.
I
F
G
Right
and
I
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
regarding
just
the
co-chairs-
and
I
just
think
like
you
know,
the
executive
committee
will
have
what
six
people
on
it.
That's
that's
two
phone
calls
during
three
months.
G
If
everybody
kind
of
dives
in
and
if
somebody
not
on
the
executive
committee,
wants
to
get
involved
more
the
merrier,
you
know
they
can,
but
I
think
it'd
be
nice,
just
be
able
to
tell
them
that
you
know
you'll
get
a
heads
up
when
the
agenda
comes
out
for
each
of
the
subcommittee
meetings,
because
they're
very
important.
You
know,
like
abigail
you're
talking
about
really
kind
of
importing
that
information
to
them,
and
then
you
know
go
from
there
and
see
how
that
goes.
E
As
a
current
coacher,
I'd
be
glad
to
do
that.
I'd
be
glad
to
talk
to
somebody
about
a
particular
thing:
that's
coming
up
in
an
ine
meeting,
an
agenda
topic
or
how
we
go
through
it
or
what
it
feels
like
what
we
might
be
talking
about.
I
think
that'd
be
fine
to
double.
I
don't
know,
but
just
currently
I'd
be
fine
with
that
yeah.
G
G
The
second
thing
is
to
sort
of
orient
orient
them
generally
about
the
types
of
things
you
know
on
the
ine,
and
then
you
can
just
kind
of
have
a
little
more
of
a
discussion
as
opposed
to
afterwards
and
a
debriefing.
I
think
I
think
beforehand.
F
F
Being
available
after
makes
sense
too
as
something
to
offer,
but
hopefully
people
will
feel
more
comfortable
if
they're,
if
they
get
a
call
first
and
then
go
to
the
meeting
and
are
participating
that
if
they
have
follow-up
questions
they
might
reach
out
at
that
point
or
that
we
can
reiterate
like
that.
We're
happy
to
do
that.
H
I
F
I
think
those
two
things
were
the
big
ones
for
this
next
meeting,
along
with
sort
of
a
tiny,
maybe
tiny
thing,
I'm
wondering
if
we're
not
doing
a
lot
of
intro
space
and
I've
heard
of
different
groups
that
are
somewhat
similar
to
ours,
being
pretty
successful
in
having
like
making
up
for
that
time
beforehand,
where
you're
just
kind
of
chatting
at
people
and
the
little
tiny
social
bits
so
maybe
being
doing
short
icebreaker
things,
at
least
in
the
subcommittees,
where
we
have
fewer
people
and
sometimes
a
bit
more
time.
F
Maybe
it's
only
pnp.
I
I'm
not
sure
where,
but
I'd
like
to
try
to
create
space
for
non-meeting
items
of
some
sort
just
to
keep
those
connections
that
were
not
that
were
people
outside
of
just
our
thoughts
on
walking
and
and
using
wheelchairs.
J
Yeah
I
feel
like
maybe
we
could
make
it
clear
on
agendas
like
4
20
come
for
come
like
for
discussion
and
then
could
be
like
available,
maybe
for
the
first
few
meetings
or
something
I
mean
only
if
we
can't
fit
it
into
a
regular
meeting
agenda,
maybe
yeah
yeah,
I
think,
having
a
first
ten
minute
icebreaker.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
jim
welsh
posted
in
the
comments.
J
That's
a
good
question.
Millicent.
Can
we
do
that?
Are
we
allowed
to
enter
meetings?
10
minutes
early?
I
think
it
would
be
on
the
person
hosting
the
meeting
to
let
us
in
that
early,
I'm
guessing,
but
that
would
be
problematic.
Maybe.
H
I
I
will
say
this,
you
know
you
show
up,
you
show
up
for
meetings
beforehand
and
you
just
chat.
I
mean
it's,
not
the
media
doesn't
start
until
until
it's
started
by
the
chair.
I
think.
H
J
J
Right
yeah.
J
And
then
a
jim
welsh
put
in
the
comments
to
the
idea
of
maybe
I
think
at
the
first
meeting.
Can
we
just
make
it
clear
in
a
bullet
point
for
like
january's
meeting
that
there's
like
time
for
questions
and
maybe
at
the
end
that
we
like
schedule
out
like
a
good
chunk
of
time
for
like
new
member
questions
and
then
also
he
said,
like
q,
a
meetings
like
maybe
there's
a
there's,
a
q,
a
at
the
end
of
each
subcommittee
in
january
as
well.
Just
for
like
you
know,
people
have
freedom
to
ask.
F
The
nice
thing
about
having
the
chat
as
well
is
that
people
could
be
putting
their
time
their
questions
in
real
time
in
sort
of
a
way
that
I
know
we're
not
supposed
to
use
it
for
comments,
but
I
think
we
could
use
it
in
that
way.
No,
no.
H
F
J
I
think
it
we
can
remind
them
that,
like
in
the
chat,
I
think
that
might
be
part
of
meeting
norms
is
like
what
the
chat
versus
like
out
loud
is
for,
and
then
it's
also
like.
If
anybody
ever
asks
a
question
in
the
chat,
often
like.
Hopefully
one
of
us
will
just
read
it
out
loud
like
oh
somebody
has
a
question
in
the
chat
it
says
this,
and
then
it
becomes
part
of
record.
H
J
K
K
E
K
I
apologize
for
using
it
that
way.
I
I
forgot
so
because-
and
maybe
some
of
you
have
it
similar,
but
in
my
when
we
have
meetings
like
this,
the
chat
is
a
very
active
place
for
people
to
comment,
put
questions
in
in
real
time
and
and
it's
acceptable
to
do
that,
so
I'm
very
used
to
doing
that
all
the
time.
F
K
I
forget
that
you
know
during
these
meetings
that
it
needs
to
be
part
of
the
public
record.
So
again,
my
my
apologies
for
doing
that
and
I'll
try
not
to
do
that
anymore.
K
But
it's
unfortunate
because
I
think
what
I've
found
in
the
meetings
that
I
attend
at
work
and-
and
my
colleagues
agree,
that
being
able
to
engage
that
way
is
really
helpful
and
productive.
So
I
think
that's
a
challenge
that
we're
going
to
have
to
try
and
navigate
through,
and
I
think
we
can
it's
just
unfortunate
that
we
can't
automatically
make
the
chat
a
part
of
public
record
in
a
different
way
other
than
somebody.
You
know
speaking
or
saying
what
is
in
the
chat.
F
I
think
millicent's
reminding
us
about
the
accessibility,
and
I
do
think
that's
a
really
that's
really
important,
given
that
having
video
access
or
being
able
to
visually
read,
the
copycat
is
not
a
given,
so
I
appreciate
that
it
might
not
work
for
us,
but
also
that
there's
so
many
different
norms
popping
up
in
different
kinds
of
meetings
like
yours,
jim,
that
we
do
need
to
be
really
clear
on
this,
especially
since
this
is
not
so
much
what
norms
have
developed
out
of
our
group,
but
literally
like
what
is
our
legal
responsibility.
F
A
K
So
then,
so
what
I
think
is
really
important,
then,
and
if
we
can't
use
chat,
because
one
of
the
great
things
about
chat
is
that
it
makes
inclusivity
more
front
and
center
for
everybody,
because
a
lot
of
times
it's
difficult
to
to
get
a
word
in
verbally,
because
obviously
we
have
a
number
of
people
on
the
call.
So
I
what
I
would
propose
and
ask
you
all
for
your
feedback
is
do
a
round
robin
you
know.
I
K
I
think
we've
been
doing
that
pretty
pretty
well,
but
I
think
it's
even
more
important
to
to
do
around
robin.
If,
because
there
are
so
many
voices
on
the
line-
and
it
can
be
hard
to
to
to
chime
in
or
get
a
word
in,
especially
if
you're
an
introvert.
So
just
just
a
thought.
H
You
know
the
the
other
thing
jim,
and
this
is
really
important.
I
think
and
middleson
I'll
ask
you
to
verbally.
Tell
me
if
this
is
true
like
you,
when
we're
supposed
to
have
almost
no
substance
in
chat
but
jim,
what
you
said
is
you?
Can
you
know
we
can
use
the
hand?
You
know
thing
to
raise
a
hand
or
you
could
put
in
chat
like.
I
have
a
question
just
to
alert
the
chair.
H
But
so
that's
not
substance
right,
you
could
say
like
hey,
we
have
15
minutes
left,
you
know
whatever,
but
but
it's
the
it's
the
substance
in
the
fact
that,
like
others,
that
are
that
may
just
be
on
the
phone
can't
see.
B
F
F
F
There
might
be
people
who
want
a
bit
more
time
and
maybe
there's
those
of
if
somebody
would
post
comments
and
there's
someone
else,
who's
willing
to
read
the
paper
comments
that
doesn't
go
against
what
our
guidelines
are.
If
every
word
is
read
verbatim
and
somebody
feels
more
comfortable
typing
out
their
thought.
H
I
J
Can't
do
it
maybe
like
I
like
jim's
idea
of
the
round
robin
and
I
think
maybe
it
could
come
down
to,
and
this
I
think,
doesn't
even
just
go
for
new
members.
This
could
go
for
like
just
a
really
great
way
to
run
virtual
meetings
for
a
while
is
whoever's
running.
The
meeting
makes
it
a
point
more
often
to
at
the
last
five
minutes
of
whatever
comment
period
that
we're
on
whether
it's
you
know
for
like
a
specific
presentation
or
at
the
end
of
a
meeting,
is
to
go
around
and
actually
like.
J
Look
at
the
list
of
people
there
and
just
say:
hey
so,
and
so
do
you
have
anything
to
add?
Do
you
have
anything
to
add?
Do
you
have
anything
again,
just
basically
go
down
the
list
and
give
them
us
a
response
when
particularly
pac
members,
maybe
not
everybody,
and
I
I
think
I
could
see
us
making
sure
to
do
that
at
january
meeting
and
then
subsequent
meetings,
just
like
part
of
being
the
part
of
the
person
who
runs
the
meetings
now
just
has
yeah
like
now.
J
B
B
A
The
introductions,
the
welcoming
slide,
that
mattress
brought
up
early
on
at
some
point
at
my
first
meeting,
and
I
really
liked
it
at
that
point.
You
know
inquired
of
and
I
got
to
meet
people
we
went
around
in
small
groups
and
that
you
know
that's
not
available
to
us
here,
but
I.
A
F
Yeah
I
like
that
it
seems
like
we
have
a
lot
of
room
to
be
communicating
like
in
the
agenda,
say,
here's
the
question
the
icebreaker
and
then
also
checking
in
with
people
about
how
it's
working
is
the
hand
raising
working
for
you
or
not
or
hopefully
the
survey
might
protect
some
of
that
stuff
as
well
and.
J
F
J
Far
yeah,
that's
what
I
meant
is.
I
know
current
members
were
going
to
get
it.
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
we
were
going
to
wait
and
let
the
new
members
go
to
a
few
meetings
and
then
respond
to
the
survey
or
if
we
should
send
it
out
now
and
then
take
the
feedback
we
get
from
current
members
and
hopefully
make
every
experience
better
for
everyone,
including
new
members,.
H
I
think
sooner
than
later-
and
I
like
I
like
the
idea
of
using
it
sooner
so
we
can
make
it
better
sooner.
Jim.
K
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
ask
what
what
was
what's
the
purpose
of
the
survey.
I
I'm
not
sure
that
I've
heard
about
it.
F
We
talked
about
it
in
august
and
it
was
basically
then
I've
drafted
something
and
you
know
bunches
of
stuff
come
up,
so
we
just
got
back
to
it.
I
think
in
november
the
basically
we
we
aren't
seeing
every
single
pac
member
attending
meetings
and
we
are
seeing
even
members
we
used
to
see
at
full
committee.
So
it's
such
a
different
style
to
meet
like
this.
During
the
pandemic.
F
We
wanted
to
try
and
figure
out
from
people
what
what's
shifted,
if
there's
things
that
are
working
better,
if
there's
things
that
are
really
rough,
if
there's
things
that
they're,
seeing
in
other
ways
that
groups
are
meeting
that
that
we
could
learn
from
like
capturing
all
of
that
just
because,
because
this
is
different,
we
want
to
not
be
having
people
feel
unwelcome
or
uncomfortable
or
unable
to
participate,
and
there
might
be
strengths
of
this-
that
we
could
keep
going
even
after
we're
able
to
be
in
person.
K
Okay,
good
yeah,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
yeah
and
I
don't
know
that
it
would
make
any
sense
to
have
the
newcomers
participate
right.
F
I
don't
know
that
it
would,
but
we
could
I
mean
just
letting
them
know
that
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
is
still
in
process
and
that
we
are
actively
interested
in
continuing
to
work
on.
Maybe
would
be
helpful
for
them
that
this
isn't
like
some
fixed,
that's
fixed
in
as
much
as
there's
things
guiding
us
and
we,
you
know,
but
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
best
practices
are
within.
That.
I
F
H
Julia,
I
had
another
thing
that
I
think
we
talked
about
recently
around
an
idea
that
you
had
had
been
floating
around
for
a
while
about
resolution.
Guidance
go
for
it.
F
So
that's
one
that
aaron
worked
on
as
well.
Well,
there's
kind
of
two
things:
aaron
worked
on
a
checklist
that
we
had
talked
about
right
after
the
one
page
presentation
guide,
and
the
idea
with
the
checklist
was
specifically
in
ine
projects.
We'd
be
able
to
look
through
things.
We
know
we
always
are
looking
for
like
lane
widths
or
reaction
zones
and
how
those
impact
lane
with
stuff
that
comes
up
over
and
over
and
over
and
the
second
piece
of
this.
F
If
we
had
that
going,
we
also
were
thinking
a
resolution
guide,
and
this
is
something
that
abigail
and
I
have
talked
about
around
our
climate
resolution
but
has
come
up
in
some
other
ways.
Basically,
if
we
can
come
up
with
kind
of
a
mad
libs
or
of
resolutions
that
we
can
have
standards
for
what's
the
language
that
we
use
when
we're
very
put
out,
you
know,
but
what
are
the
things
that
we
we
say
when
we're
really
disappointed
in
a
project?
F
How
does
it
differ
when
we're
disappointed,
and
we
think
that
this
design
is
going
to
kill
people
like
what
do
we
say
when
we
we
recognize?
This
is
a
constrained
project,
but
it's
really
good,
despite
it
being
sort
of
a
bad
reason
for
it
there's
all
sorts
of
support
levels
that
we
have.
So
how
do
we
communicate
those?
F
How
can
we
set
up
sort
of
yeah
language
and
bullet
points
to
go
through
it
and
make
it
easy
for
us
to
write
without
getting
into
that
editing
as
a
group
which
is
kind
of
not
the
most
fun
and
also
for
the
people,
we're
sending
it
to
you
to
look
through
and
go
okay?
They
still
are
kind
of
ticked
off
about
this,
but
in
this
particular
project
we're
meeting
these
standards.
F
H
Julia,
I
heard
you
say
easy,
but
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
change,
or
at
least
my
my
word
that
I
want
to
add
is
efficiency.
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
could
just
make
these
like
you
know,
so
you
just
know
you.
You
know
what
your
resolution
is
going
to
like
encompass
and
if
it's
awesome,
it'll
look
like
this
and
if
it's
terrible,
it'll
look
like
this
and
then
there's
a
you
know
exactly
a
shade
in
the
middle
yeah.
F
Excellent
and
hopefully
that
also
if
we
know
between
the
guide,
that
the
checklist
that
aaron
was
working
on
and
the
this
bigger
resolution,
one
which
will
include
points
of
that
that'll
free
up
our
thinking
so
that
we're
not
relying
on
ourselves
to
be
the
only
thing
catching
whether
or
not
it
had
bump
outs,
and
it
could
have
bump
outs,
for
example,
because
that's
definitely
or
one
of
the
other
issues
that
I've
seen
is,
is
when
we've
seen
projects
that
are
huge
improvement
over
what
exists,
but
not
actually
up
to
our
standards.
H
Details
I'll
just
go
again:
I'm
really
excited
about
this
conversation
tied
to
the
principles
of
negotiation
conversation.
I
think
the
two
are
like
really
connected
together
because,
like
like
figuring
out
where
the
true
power
is
of
the
pack,
I
think
a
lot
of
it
lies
in
resolutions
and
then
like
the
conversations
with
project
managers
to
get
there.
I
just
think
those
are
so
interrelated.
G
G
I
think
additional.
I
think
we
leave
power
on
the
table
when
we
are
too
vague
in
our
emotions,
all
right.
So
if
this
sort
of
efficiency
language
guide
can
get
some
of
the
big,
the
broad
strokes
and
then
that
will
free
us
up
more
for
being
very
focused
on
a
project
that
can
actually
give
advice
that
public
works
and
go
like
oh
yeah,
that
I
know
what
that
means.
So
it's
not
too
it's
not
too
big
picture.
It's
as
focused
as
we
can
get
it.
I
think.
That's,
I
just
think
that's
critical.
H
F
H
F
Right,
so
if
there's
I
don't
know
what
our
steps
are
for
that
one.
I
know
it
was
super
helpful
to
have
aaron
go
through
and
just
get
a
checklist
down.
I
know
that
I've
heard
like
we
have
a
lot
of
really
good
editors
within
this
group
who
the
discussions
that
people
have
on
on
the
word
choices.
I
really
appreciate,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
people
want
to
start
thinking
about
that
or
if
anyone
ends
up
with
drafts,
if
the
spirit
moves
them,
I'm
happy.
E
A
Announcements
are
there
any
other
comments
on
the
onboarding
discussion.
Looking
at
those
raised
hands.
J
I
think
this
I
think
this
looks
really
good,
especially
just
for
at
least
the
january
meeting.
I
feel
that
really
feels
really
solid
to
me.
So
thanks
matthew
and
everyone
for
putting
in
stuff
like
that,
and
then
I
think
for
the
subsequent
meetings
matthew,
I
shared
with
you
a
like
pnp
agenda
idea,
board
kind
of
that
we
have
going
so
maybe
if
you
wanted
to
stick
some
in
there,
then
to
make
sure
like
pnp
agenda
setting.
You
know
that
kind
of
is
a
reminder.
J
Like
part
of
the
conversation,
and
then
I
have
one
announcement
for
whenever
we're
ready.
F
I
have
one
thing
to
ask
which
I
think
is
okay.
I
started
a
glossary
on
my
buddy
like
five
years
ago
and
if
people
have
terms
that
they
think
of
that
were
confusing
to
them,
please
send
them
to
me,
because
this
is
just
me
working
out.
So
I
think
it's
I
don't
know
how
all
that
works,
but
and
then
we
can
have
at
least
something
to
start
with
whenever
we
get
around
to
that
I'll.
Just
keep
a
running
list.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
because
I
haven't
got
your
hospital
taken
away.
J
J
We
saw
this
presented
to
us
once
I
think,
sometime
last
year,
when
we
were
in
person,
but
then
there
was
never
a
resolution
on
it,
not
sure
why,
but
because
I
don't
know
anyway,
but
there's
you
can
share
your
thoughts
about
the
draft
plan
for
the
2021
comp
plan
for
the
parks
department.
So
the
link
is
in
the
chat.
If
you
feel
like
you
wanted
to
look
through
that,
and
then
you
had
any
comments
you
wanted.