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From YouTube: April 21, 2020 Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting
Description
Minneapolis Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/
B
Good
afternoon
welcome
to
this
live
broadcast
of
the
virtual
meeting
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Commission.
This
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
a
virtual
format
where
members
are
participating
via
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
is
authorized
under
Minnesota
statute.
Section
1,
3,
D
0
to
1
do
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
We
will
now
introduce
chair
Sundberg
to
convene
the
meeting.
C
Good
afternoon,
welcome
to
this
live
broadcast
of
our
virtual
meeting
of
the
April
21st
2020
regular
meeting
of
the
Minneapolis
Heritage
Preservation
Commission.
This
meeting
includes
about
participation
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Madeline
Sandberg
and
I
serve
as
chair
of
the
Minneapolis
Heritage
Preservation
Commission
they'll
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll,
so
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
D
D
C
C
C
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
adopt
the
agenda
for
this
meeting,
so
we'll
be
working
from
the
agenda.
That's
available
online.
I
will
go
through
the
agenda
and
sort
out
the
items
which
will
be
which
items
will
be
continuing
to
a
future
meeting.
What
items
will
be
discussed
and
what
items
will
be
put
on
the
consent
agenda
to
be
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff
and
without
further
discussion.
C
So
item
number
four,
which
is
800
Washington,
Avenue,
North,
Ward
3
it'll,
be
continued
to
the
may
5th
2020
meeting
item
number
five
606
Washington
Avenue
North
Ward
3,
which
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
install
science
and
canopies
that
is
recommended
for
consent.
Unless
someone
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
or
to
modify
the
staff
recommendations,
are
there
any
commissioners
the
wished
to
speak
on
item
number
five.
E
C
F
G
F
C
C
C
Which
we
will
approve
the
consent
agenda
in
one
motion
at
the
start
of
the
meeting
items
number
six,
seven
and
eight,
which
is
four:
oh
six
11th
Avenue,
Southeast,
410,
11th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
1103.
Fourth
Street
southeast
will
have
a
staff
presentation,
public
comment,
commission
discussion
and
action
and
then
item
4,
which
is
800
Washington
Avenue
north
will
be
continued
to
the
May
5th
meeting.
Commissioners
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
proposed
agenda.
C
D
C
B
C
Minutes
are
approved
before
I
open
the
public
hearing.
Let
me
summarize
the
process
for
conducting
it
in
the
spiritual
format.
First,
we
will
act
on
any
items
that
are
beating
continued.
Then
we
will
act
on
the
consent
agenda
that
we
just
set
once
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved,
the
Commission
is
done
with
those
items
and
applicants
may
contact
planning
staff
tomorrow
for
next
steps.
After
the
consent
agenda
items
are
approved,
we
will
take
each
remaining
agenda
item
in
order.
First,
planning
staff
will
present
its
report
and
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
staff.
C
Then
we
will
hear
from
the
applicant
and
the
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
after
that.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
will
invite
public
comment
will
be
taking
speakers
in
the
order
they
pre
registered.
If
any
and
speakers
will
be
limited
to
two
minutes,
we
ask
that
after
your
name
is
called
you
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
and
then
we
proceed
with
your
comments.
After
we've
completed
the
list
of
pre
registered
speakers,
we'll
see
if
there
are
any
other
speakers
in
the
queue
who
may
have
called
in.
C
In
order
to
activate
your
microphone,
you
will
need
to
press
star
six
on
your
phone
and
please
keep
your
comments
to
the
specific
applications
that
are
before
us
today.
After
the
public
comments
are
complete,
I'll
close
the
hearing,
the
commissioners
will
deliberate
and
act
on
the
applications
before
us.
C
C
C
J
C
C
Ok
items
for
discussion.
Our
first
item
is
number
6,
406,
11th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
just
so.
The
commissioners
understand
I
asked
that
staff
kind
of
present
an
overview
presentation
on
all
three
demolition
permits,
since
they
are
a
related
application,
but
then
we
will
be
voting
individually
on
each
item
after
the
staff
presentation.
So
the
staff
report
will
be
presented
by
Rob's
Galecki,
oh
and
I'm.
Seeing
that
Jessie
cling
is
recusing
himself
for
her
items,
six
through
eight,
so
he
is
stepping
out
of
the
phone
call.
K
Great
good
afternoon,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Rob's
Galecki
I'm,
a
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
cpad
today,
I'm
presenting
three
demolition
of
historic
resource
applications
for
neighboring
properties
in
the
Marcy
homes
neighborhood.
The
first
application
is
for
406
11th
Avenue
southeast
the
building
is
a
two
and
a
half
story:
Queen
and
style
home
constructed
in
1901.
The
property
was
designed
by
William
Kenyon
and
built
by
Edward
James
Davis
for
Mary
Loughran.
Who
was
the
owner?
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please.
K
Thank
you,
constructive
wood-frame.
The
house
is
clad
in
wood,
siding
and
includes
a
cross
gable.
Roof
bracketed,
soffits
flared
barge
boards
at
the
eaves
and
timbering
in
the
gable.
The
building
is
a
prominent
for
a
front
elevation,
polygonal,
Bay,
historic
six
over
one
and
nine
over
one
wood,
sash
windows
and
a
characteristic
two-story
projecting
Bay
on
the
north,
which
is
the
side
elevation.
K
However,
the
house
was
not
included
in
the
final
district
boundaries.
The
property
was
not
recommended
for
further
research
research
as
well
in
the
2011
historical
resources
inventory
for
the
central
core
as
prepared
by
Medan
Hunt
seabeds
staff
completed
a
historic
review,
a
letter
of
the
property
in
March
2019
and
determined
that
the
property
may
be
a
historic
resource.
You
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
K
Landscape
Research
LLC
prepared
a
determination
of
eligibility
for
11:03
4th
Street
southeast
406,
11th
Avenue,
southeast
and
410
11th
Avenue
southeast
in
June
2019,
the
Sun.
The
study
recommends
that
the
properties
may
be
eligible
for
local
designation
under
criterion
6.
As
a
small
group
of
speculatively
built
houses
designed
by
William
Kenyon
next
slide,
please,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
demolish
the
existing
building
and
construct
a
65
unit
apartment
building
on
the
corner
land
that
includes
the
subject
property
as
well
as
410
11th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
411
4th
Street
southeast
next
slide.
K
Please,
the
city
of
Minneapolis
considered
William
Kenyon
to
be
a
master
architect.
He
was
well
known
for
designing
upper
and
upper-middle
class
single-family
dwellings
based
in
revival
styles
of
the
era.
The
subject
property
is
one
of
six
extant
homes
on
the
corner
of
4th
Street
southeast
and
11th
Avenue
South
East,
designed
by
Kenyon,
built
by
Edward
James
Davis
for
the
property
owner
Mary
Lauren.
The
three
homes
proposed
for
demolition
are
the
most
typical
of
Kenyon
designs.
They
represent
three
different
but
compatible
architectural
styles
and
retain
the
greatest
integrity.
K
The
city
has
already
designated
properties
that
are
characteristic
of
Kenyon,
landmark.
Kenyon
properties
include
the
chase
residence,
the
John
G
Glick
house
and
the
Phi
Kappa
Phi
fraternity
at
nearby
1609
University
Avenue
southeast,
which
is
a
contributing
resource
in
the
University
of
Minnesota
Greek
letters,
chapter
house,
historic
district
next
slide,
please
Minneapolis
city
directories
confirm
that's
406
11th
Avenue
South
East
began
as
a
single
family.
Rental
house
became
a
multiple
family
residence
by
1907
between
1910
and
1933.
The
dwelling
was
home
to
at
least
seven
sororities
and
two
fraternities
at
different
times.
K
Next
slide,
please
it's
just
a
sandbar
mat
from
1952.
That
kind
of
shows
the
longevity
of
that
next
slide.
Please
Thanks
the
subject.
Property
retains
integrity
required
to
be
a
contributing
resource.
The
interior
has
been
highly
altered,
but
that
reflects
the
dwellings
history
as
rental
property.
There
are
minimal
changes
that
have
been
done
to
the
exterior
and
it
retains
good
integrity.
Overall,
however,
in
CFS
review,
the
subject
property
does
not
individually
seem
eligible
for
local
designation.
The
property
is
not
directly
associated
with
the
lives
of
significant
persons
or
groups.
K
It
does
not
exemplify
a
landscape,
a
designer
development
pattern.
It
is
not
likely
to
yield
more
information
important
to
prehistory
or
archeology,
so
thus
it
would
not
meet
criterion
2
5,
&,
7,
respectively.
The
properties
does
not
have
enough
significance
under
criterion
1
for
events
or
patterns
of
history
to
merit
designation.
There
are
many
extant
properties
throughout
the
university
neighborhoods
that
continue
to
convey
a
student-centered
residential
history.
K
The
property
is
served
as
an
affordable,
high
density
student
rooming
house
for
over
a
century
homes
of
this
type
are
representative
of
the
continued
residential
history
of
the
student
population
in
Dinkytown.
There
are
many
individual
properties
that
are
extant
and
continue
to
relate
to
this
history.
Thus,
the
property
is
not
significant
under
criterion.
K
3,
the
property
was
designed
in
the
Queen
Anne
style,
but
it's
not
an
exceptional
example
of
this
style
and
would
not
be
considered
significant
under
criterion
for
alone
for
architecture
and
the
home
is
more
modest
and
than
other
known
and
re-designated
William
Canyon
properties.
It's
not
an
exceptional
example
of
William
Canyon
home.
Therefore,
it's
not
individually
significant
under
criterion
6.
Moreover,
the
city
has
already
designated
properties
that
are
a
characteristic
of
Kenyan.
K
The
Department
of
Community
Planning
Economic
Development
recommends
that
the
Heritage
Preservation
Commission
adopt
staff
findings
for
the
application
by
Garrett
Duncan
of
north
bay
companies
for
the
property
located
at
406,
11th
Avenue
southeast
and
recommends
to
approve
the
demolition
of
historic
resource.
I
will
be
open
for
questions.
If
any
of
you
have
any.
Thank
you.
I
K
Right,
that's
a
good
point.
The
properties
came
in
individually,
so
we
evaluated
them
individually
as
different
historic
resources
as
they
were
determined
individually.
So
we
evaluated
them
as
such
and
alone
as
individual
potential
landmarks.
They
would
have
not
merited
that
designation.
If
that
makes
sense,.
I
L
Hey
this
is
Andrea
Burke
I'm,
the
supervisor
for
the
historic
preservation
team
at
the
city,
Minneapolis
yeah
Linda.
We
that
is
an
option
and
we
can
consider
those
as
a
district,
and
we
can
let
that
come
out
during
discussion
about
the
items
after
the
applicant
and
any
members
of
the
public
have
wanted
to
speak.
But,
yes,
that
is
an
option
to
consider
use
as
a
district.
Thank
you.
C
K
C
C
Then
I
think
I
don't
see
any
additional
questions.
Thank
you
for
your
report
and
I'm
wondering
if
the
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
item
and
is
the
applicant
here,
and
would
they
like
to
speak?
If
so,
please
press
star
six
to
activate
your
microphone.
So
we
can
hear
you
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
M
N
O
N
Got
Nelson
dg8
our
architecture
I
just
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
condition
of
the
buildings,
especially
on
the
on
the
inside
of
the
buildings
outside
to
some
extent
too.
But
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
the
buildings
are
in
they're
in
pretty
rough
shape
and
they've
served
as
student
housing,
for,
as
we've
heard
Rob
described
over
over
100
years,
the
interiors
have
been
renovated
several
times
to
add
more
units
you
know
currently,
410
has
has
14
units
they've
been
renovated
into
later.
N
The
first
floor
would
have
five
single
rooms
and
a
shared
bath,
which
means
this
would
have
been
the
room
that
was
currently
or
originally
living
dining
kitchen
area.
Second
floor
also
has
five
single
rooms
and
a
shared
bath,
and
a
third
is
for
single
rooms
and
a
shared
half
bath,
so
they've
been
massively
renovated
inside
and
used
as
rooming
houses
for
better
part
of
a
hundred
years.
N
They've
also
had
to
have
new
stairs
installed
throughout
on
the
back,
so
that
each
each
interior
hallway
could
have
access
to
two
main
exits
which
seriously
affected
the
inside
structural
capacity
of
the
building.
So
it's
been
shored
up
in
the
basement
on
several
occasions.
The
existing
heating
systems
been
majorly
modified
throughout
the
years
to
go
from
what
was
a
single-family
house
to
serve.
You
know:
what's
now
a
fourteen
unit
student
housing
project?
In
addition,
none
of
the
none
of
the
rooms
first
floor
or
any
of
any
of
the
rest
rooms
are
accessible
at
all.
N
They,
neither
none
of
them
and
I'm
speaking
kind
of
in
general
for
this
one,
but
but
really
all
three
are
very
similar.
None
of
them
would
meet
any
of
the
current
current
housing
codes.
There's
there's
no
fire
alarms
a
number
of
the
scares
that
were
added
to
the
inside
of
units
to
provide
secondary
egress.
Those
are
not
those
those
wouldn't
meet
current
accessibility
codes
as
well,
some
of
the
ways
that
they
were
divided
up,
there's
a
shared
kitchen
that
serves
all
14
units
in
the
case
of
410.
N
M
M
Carol,
can
you
still
hear
me
yep
now
that
Statutes
dropped
off
by?
If
you
have
any
questions
about
the
estimates,
the
things
we
did
get
estimates
to
try
to
rehab
these
buildings.
Back
to
you
know
to
code
compliance
and
basic.
You
know
functionality.
They
were
done
by
a
qualified
person.
They
did
look
at
them
in
terms
of
maintaining
the
current
rooming
house
type
of
use
and
it's
just
prohibitive
Northbay,
but
he's
not
long
ago.
They
are
responsible
for
how
the
buildings
got
into
this
condition,
but
it
isn't
an
investment.
H
E
I'm
Amy,
Lucas
and
I
am
historic.
Insulting
I
completed
a
report
with
landscape
research,
I'm
available
for
questions
on
all
three
of
these
reports
and
I'll
just
speak
a
little
briefly
to
Commissioner
Mac's
question
about
a
potential
district.
I
did
not
spend
a
lot
of
time,
surveying
all
opinions,
houses
in
Minneapolis
and
beyond.
He
was
prolific.
E
The
district's
about
the
discussion
did
come
up
and
we
did
kind
of
work
through
that.
As
you
know,
in
the
report,
these
three
houses
were
completed
by
Kenyon,
as
well
as
the
four
facing
fourth
Street
11:07,
fourth
Street,
which
has
very
low
your
integrity.
But
beyond
that
and
I
looked
at
this
in
the
report
and
I
didn't
provide
photographs
or
do
an
in-depth
history
or
analysis
of
all
opinions.
E
Properties
like
camions,
designed
a
large
chunk
of
Lowry
Hill
houses
with
high
integrity
and
built
for
specific
owners
who
tended
to
live
in
them
a
long
time
in
Lowry,
Hill
alone
on
Colfax
Avenue.
There
are
four
houses
almost
in
a
row
that
he
designed
then
there's
another
house
behind
it
on
Dupont
and
another
one
behind
it
on
Emerson
and
two
more
on
Girard.
So
if
you're
a
BC,
Dean
Lowrey
home
alphabet,
they
are
almost
contiguous
houses,
eight
of
them
that
he
designed
with
very
high
integrity.
E
That
being
said,
Kenyans
own
houses
he
design
to
one
in.
Let
me
Helen
one
on
like
Harriet,
also
remain
today
and
also
have
high
integrity.
So
if
there
was
a
Kenyan
district,
I
thought
there
was
potential
for
a
Kenyan
district,
maybe
elsewhere.
Secondly,
I
don't
didn't
get
into
this
too
much,
but
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
researchers
on
my
commission
may
know
a
little
bit
about
this.
E
E
Building
permits
and
titles
deeds
that
the
women
are
listed
on
them
and
I
I,
like
the
story
that
Mary
Lachlan
was
a
developer
and
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
necessarily
the
case
and
how
much
her
husband
was
involved
in
that,
but
I'm
available
for
questions
and
I
would
be
happy
to
take
more
of
it
all
flying
off.
Now.
C
I
I
C
M
That
the
windows
all
need
to
be
replaced
and
doors
and
into
your
exterior
and
unit
entry
doors
flooring
needs
to
be
redone,
I.
Think
there's
some.
You
know
mechanical
there's
a
comment
that
scene
is
about
specialty
appliances.
Well,
that's
just
the
way:
it's
not
that
it's
high-end
work!
It's
just
out
on
this
Xmas
form
they
have
categories
when
it's
specialties-
and
that
includes
you,
know,
mirrors
and
basket,
clip
lessons
and
appliances.
It's
it's
routine
things.
It's
not
fancy
stuff.
M
O
M
M
N
Thank
you.
Yes,
we
looked
at
basically
bringing
them
up
to
it.
What
am
I,
what
a
current
housing
code
would
be?
Which
would
would
you
basically
renovate
it
in
place
to
keep
the
same
number
of
of
units
as
much
as
possible,
which
was
true
on
the
first
two,
but
potentially
not
on
11:03,
but
it
would
add,
accessibility
features,
so
she
would
get
an
accessible
unit
and
an
accessible
restroom
on
at
least
the
first
floor,
but
other
than
that
it
was
basically
a
renovation
in
place
and
bringing
everything
that
exists
up
to
current
codes.
Okay,.
I
C
C
We
will
take
the
list
of
the
pre-registered
speakers
in
order
and
then
open
the
floor
to
any
other
speakers
who
may
be
in
the
queue
we
will
ask
each
speaker
to
provide
their
name
and
address
before
they
make
their
comments
and
when
recognized
when
the
clerk
calls
your
name,
if
you
could,
please
press
star
six
on
your
phone
to
activate
your
microphone,
so
we
can
hear
you
with
that.
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
identify
the
first
speaker
in
the
queue.
F
A
lot
have
been
submitted
to
the
commission
from
the
Association
regarding
in
requesting
that's
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
demolition,
be
denied
I'll,
address,
item
six,
seven
and
eight
together.
The
project
was
rejected
by
the
neighborhood
associations,
land-use
and
Development
Committee
on
February
4th,
based
on
our
concerns
about
impact
on
this
to
our
character
of
the
area
and
the
loss
of
affordable
housing.
The
three
houses
as
Newton
said,
are
part
of
a
centuries-old
and
ongoing
historic
use
in
Dinkytown,
in
which
rooming
houses
were
part
and
parcel
of
the
fabric
of
the
community.
F
Our
position
is
that
the
building
should
qualify
under
significance
criterion,
one
three
and
six
criterion:
one.
They
represent
social
patterns
and
cultural
trends
associated
with
student
housing
and
Dinkytown.
With
relation
to
the
university
converted
from
single-family
homes
to
health
student
populations
through
our
deann
fraternity
groups
and
lower-income
workers
and
professionals,
they
were
intended
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
burgeoning
University
of
Minnesota
student
population,
which
went
from
308
in
1880
to
5,300
69
by
1910
criterion
3,
the
three
buildings
have
served
as
affordable,
high
density
student
living
for
over
a
century.
F
The
representative
of
the
residential
history
of
the
student
population
in
Dinkytown
and
the
distinct
elements
of
Greater
dinky
towns,
residential
identity
criterion.
Six,
these
houses,
designed
by
master
architect
William
Kenyon
on
the
corner
of
4th
Street
11th
Avenue
southeast,
may
be,
among
the
best
known
examples
that
communicate
the
academic
centered
residential
history
of
Dinkytown.
We
know
that
a
number
of
his
buildings
have
been
landmark
with
regard
to
these
Kenyan
design,
building,
North
Bay
and
the
staff
have
stated
that
they
could
be
demolished
without
destroying
his
legacy.
F
But
it's
our
opinion
that
an
architect's
body
of
work
to
rather
be
considered
as
a
continuum
preserving
the
history
of
that
work.
North
based
dates
of
the
class
to
perform
needed
renovation
work,
exceeds
the
economic
value
of
the
property.
However,
their
businesses
new
development,
not
rehabbing,
we
would
be
most
interested
in
seeing
more
in
specifics
about
the
comparison
of
costs
for
the
proposed
building
with
those
for
the
rehabbing
of
the
current
property
in
detail,
we
ask
the
applications,
be
continued
for
all
three
properties
until
such
time
as
we
can
have
an
appropriate
community
conversation.
C
G
We
need
to
recognize
that
they
have
significance
too
and
that
their
history
is
significant
and
I'm,
also
intrigued
by
the
fact
that
this
was
a
female
developer
or
not,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
Amy's
still
listening,
but
thanks
for
pointing
that
out
as
part
of
your
conversation,
because
that
is
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
had
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
that
relationship
and
the
relationship
between
Loughran
and
Kenyon.
So
those
are
just
a
few.
My
thoughts
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
my
fellow
commissioners
think.
I
I'm
struggling
with
this
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
one
of
course
our
current
situation
and
the
difficulty
of
having
a
community-wide
sort
of
conversation
about
something
that
the
neighborhood
group
has
has
made
pretty
clear
there
their
position
so
that
weighs
on
me
I
think
that's
an
important
consideration
and
I
realized
that
North
Bay
is
not
interested
in
renovating.
They
didn't
buy
these
properties
to
renovate
them,
and
yet
the
cost
of
renovating
the
one
and
I
only
got
the
one
right.
I
Outrageous,
when
you
look
at
the
square
footage
cost
of
it,
and
it
is
an
interesting
sort
of
piece
of
history
and
so
and
envy
and
the
as
you
drive
through
the
neighborhood
and
you
drive
by
them.
They
catch
your
eye.
You
know
not
because
they're
great
houses,
but
because
they
have
that
again
the
commonality
of
the
three
of
them
it
and
it
certainly
contributes
to
the
landscape
of
the
neighborhood
just
in
scale
and
so
forth.
I
know
that's
not
supposed
to
be
our
concern,
but
there
you
go.
O
J
On
I,
so
yes,
the
economics
of
the
situation
right
now
is,
is
really
weighing
on
me.
I
was
not
on
the
commission
for
the
last
recession,
but
I
can
recall
projects
that
were
started
in
the
city
that
may
have
been
a
demolition
where
then,
the
developer
didn't
have
the
funds
to
build
anything.
So
I'm
I'm
really
quite
reserved
about
demolishing
buildings
at
this
point,
considering
that
they
may
not
get
replaced
with
the
economic
situation,
we're
in
right
now.
P
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
kind
of
agree
with
what
Barbara
said
about
the
importance
of
looking
at
the
work
of
this
architect
as
a
whole.
So,
while
there
are
great
examples
that
are
already
recognized,
I
think
that
also
recognizing
this
kind
of
renter
and
University
of
Minnesota
connection
is
really
important
and
I
would
also
like
to
see
more
about
them
as
a
grouping
rather
than
individual
I.
H
H
K
L
This
is
Burke
Andrea
Burke
to
speak.
Forgive
me,
my
chat
function
is
not
working,
so
that's
why
I
could
not
let
you
know
I
would
wanted
to
talk
yeah.
We
could
help
you
craft
some
language.
If
that's
the
direction
you
decided
to
so
move.
Let
me
turn
on
my
video.
Forgive
me
we
would
cross
some
language
in
terms
of
yeah.
You
would
definitely
you
would
have
to
deny
the
demolitions
and
then
you
would
have
to
vote
to
establish
interim
protection
and
then
commence
staff
to
prepare
cause
to
be
prepared.
L
G
L
This
is
Burke
again
speaking.
I
will
turn
on
my
video
in
this
case,
because
these
are
the
only
three
that
were
up
for
application.
Those
three
would
kind
of
have
to
be
separately
nominated
in
order
to
include
those
as
part
of
the
district,
because
these
are
the
three
that
are
being
heard
at
this
point.
I
confess
I,
don't
know
the
exact
specifics
of
that
of
that.
L
I'm
not
actually
sure
I
think
they
could
be
part
of
the
study.
I
mean
at
this
point.
Our
staff-
often
you
know
as
part
of
stead
of
surveys,
we
will
make
recommendations
or
consultants
will
make
recommendations
around
properties
for
potential
study
areas
for
districts,
and
then
we
will
move
forward
with
putting
all
that
those
properties
under
interim
protection
to
then
study
as
part
of
a
larger
district.
L
C
I
think
I
personally
would
be
interested
in
exploring
a
small
district
in
this
area.
Centered,
especially
if
it
turns
out
there
is
some
sort
of
interesting
relationship
with
the
developer
and
the
architect
at
that
time,
but
also
I.
Think
at
least
to
me
I
agree
that
you
know
we
often
ended
up
saving
the
most
architectural
beautiful
houses,
especially,
but
that
there
there
is
something
to
also
say
being
the
ones
that,
yes,
they
do
kind
of
look
like
the
rest
of
the
more
historic
areas
outside
dinky
town
and
that
that's
also
important.
L
Sorry,
one
more
time,
I
just
would
want
to
say
that
too
I
mean
we
can
stray
outside
of
what's
been
included
as
part
of
these
applications.
It
wouldn't
I
will
be
honest.
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
tricky
to
do
that
and
and
how
we
would
go
to
about
that
in
a
meeting,
but
as
if
you
guys
know,
we
can
drop
nominations
in
a
meeting
at
at
any
time,
but
in
order
to
go
in
that
direction,
just
to
be
sure
to
make
findings
for
this
these
projects
in
order
to
overturn
staff
recommendation.
Thank
you.
L
C
L
I
will
ask
staff
Rob's
Galecki
to
come
up
with
those
okay,
but
do
keep
in
mind
like
these
property
owners
have
not
been
yeah,
but
they
don't
hang
with
fascinating.
They
don't
know
what's
happening,
and
so
that's,
where
I
get
a
little
uneasy
with
that,
because
I
don't
feel
like
they've
had
a
fair
chance
to
speak
to
it.
Even
though
I
know
nominations
are
not
always
we
don't
notice
for
them
and
they
can't
happen
in
the
middle
of
a
meeting.
Should
just
commissioners
choose,
but
that's
just
my
opinion
on
that
matter.
Okay,.
D
C
G
O
I
Sorry,
it
seems
like
it's.
This
is
all
harder
than
usual,
but
I
I
personally
feel
like
it's
problematic,
to
try
to
include
something
that
is
not
before
us
in
this
in
this
motion,
and
so
it
seems
like
what's
before
us
is,
and
now
are
we
living
on
one
of
these
we're
voting
on
406,
11th,
Avenue
South
right.
The
motion
we
need
okay,
so.
I
L
L
I
will
forgive
me
too
I'm
gonna
jump
in
one
more
time
here.
If
you
need
help
with
the
language.
If
that
is
direction
of
the
motion,
you're
going,
you
know,
essentially
it's
our
standard
language
for
denying
the
demolition
of
historic
resource
application
for
the
property
at
in
this
case
it
would
be
406,
11th,
Avenue
southeast.
L
It's
kind
of
a
three-part
motion,
as
you
are
aware
of
establishing
interim
protection
and
directing
the
planning
director
to
prepare
a
cost
to
be
prepared.
A
designation
study
for
in
this
case,
if
you
choose
to
go
for
all
three,
a
potential
historic
district
to
include
the
properties
located
at
406,
11th,
Avenue,
southeast
410,
11th,
Avenue,
south
east
and
1103
4th
Street
southeast,
and
therefore
you
would
then
repeat
this
promotion
for
the
other
two
properties
for
those
items
as
we
bring
them
up
in
the
hearing.
Subsequently,.
P
B
C
K
I'll
just
add
a
bit
more
to
about
this
one
in
particular,
I'll
try
to
cut
it
down
just
because
we
got
through
most
of
the
background
information
pertaining
to
the
three.
But
the
building
is
a
two
and
a
half
story:
single
shingle
style
home
constructed
in
1901.
The
property
was
designed
by
William
Kenyon,
built
by
Edward
James
Davis
for
Mary
Loughran,
who
is
the
owner?
It's
constructed
of
wood
frame.
It
includes
a
front
gambrel
roof
with
painted
wood,
shingle,
cladding
and
a
side
cross
gable.
K
The
gamble,
shelters,
offset
entry
and
porch
area
the
west
on
the
west.
Elevation
affects
the
entry
a
window
base
prominent
and
centrally
located
on
the
first
story
of
the
elevation.
Many
of
the
windows
are
four
over
one:
wood
sash,
but
there's
notable
civil
noticeable
window
replacements
and
glass
block
in
fill
in
some
of
the
openings.
K
The
rear
includes
a
small
one-story
addition
and
one
of
the
corners
and
there's
a
one-story
alteration
to
an
entry
at
the
northeast
corner
that
is
covered
with
siding
city
directories
confirmed
it's
for
10:11
east-southeast
began
as
a
single
family
rental
house,
as
with
the
others,
and
quickly
transformed
into
a
multiple
family
dwelling
by
1911.
This
particular
dwelling
was
home
to
a
worker
and
two
boarding
students.
The
dwelling
turned
into
a
Greek
chapter
house
soon
after
and
became
let's
see
yep
soon.
K
After
turn
into
a
dwelling,
how
a
Greek
chapter
house,
so
between
1915
and
1929,
the
dwelling
was
home
to
at
least
one
sorority
and
two
fraternities
at
different
times.
It
returned
to
housing.
The
general
student
population
in
1929
s
directories
indicate
a
mix
of
workers
and
students
living
there
and,
like
the
other
two
homes,
the
property
has
served
as
affordable,
high
density
Student
rooming
house.
For
over
a
century,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
demolish
the
existing
building
to
construct
a
64
unit
apartment
building,
that
is
on
the
land.
K
The
subject
property
retains
integrity
required
to
be
a
contributing
resource,
rear
alterations
and
window
replacements
have
left
the
building
with
fair
exterior
integrity,
while
the
interior
reflects
the
dwellings
history
as
a
rental
property
property
retains
enough
integrity,
though,
to
clearly
communicate
its
history
in
CPS
review.
The
subject
property,
however,
does
not
appear
individually
eligible
for
local
designation
under
the
designation
criteria.
K
The
property
is
not
listed
in
the
National
Register
of
Historic
Places
and
it
does
not
appear
to
be
individually
eligible
for
local
designation.
So
the
Department
of
Community
Planning
Economic
Development,
recommends
that
the
hpc
adopt
staff
findings
in
the
staff
report
for
the
application
by
Garrett
Duncan
of
North
Bay
companies
and
approved
the
demolition
of
410
11th
Avenue
southeast.
K
C
C
M
Next
two
buildings,
I,
will
say
I
it
bothers
me
that
you
are
suggesting
staff
should
study
a
district
that
isn't
on
any
work
plan
hasn't
been
identified.
Your
contact,
Studies
is
just
kind
of
an
interesting
and
intriguing
idea
and
I
think
that's
unfortunate,
but
that's
that's
how
that
is
being
approached
here.
I,
don't
think
these
are
any
more
emblematic
of
the
history
of
Dinkytown
student
housing
than
any
other
three
houses
in
a
row
so
felt
the
need
to
say
that
to
you.
Otherwise,
I
think
it's
if
you
have
questions
for
us.
Thank.
C
A
C
L
I
I'm
just
happy
to
have
help,
but
if
anybody
wants
to,
but
let's
see
what
I
have
is
my
findings
are
that
there
are
reasonable
alternatives
to
demolition,
that
the
exterior
integrity
of
this
building
is
decent
and
that
this
building
in
relationship
to
the
other
two
could
merit
designation
as
a
non-high
style
residence
designed
by
William
Kenyon
as
a
spec
property
and
serving
as
student
housing
for
more
than
a
century.
I
think
that's
what
I
did
for
the
findings.
I.
I
L
I
can
repeat,
I
would
take
notes
just
to
make
sure
it's
you
guys
have
it,
but
essentially
it
is
to,
in
this
case,
deny
the
demolition
of
historic
resource
application
for
the
property
at
410,
11th
Avenue
southeast,
establish
interim
protection
and
direct
the
planning
director
to
prepare
or
cause
to
be
prepared.
A
designation
study
for
a
potential
historic
district
to
include
the
properties
located
at
oh
six,
11th
Avenue,
Southeast,
4/10,
11th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
1103
4th
Street
southeast.
Thank
you.
C
H
Quick
comment
just
to
just
to
clarify
from
my
standpoint
the
reason
that
I
in
support
of
this
designation
study
is
because
I
feel
strongly
that
these
are
that
it's
worth
studying
doesn't
automatically
mean
that
the
projects
the
buildings
will
be
designated,
but
they
are
worth
the
opportunity
to
be
studied,
and
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
for
the
record,
for
the
purposes
of
the
record
as
to
why
I'm
support
of
our
motion.
Thank.
P
B
C
C
K
Thank
you.
The
building
is
a
two-story
colonial
revival.
Home
is
constructed
in
1901.
The
property
was
designed
by
William
Kenyon,
built
by
Edward
James
Davis
for
Mary
Loughran,
who
was
the
owner.
It's
constructive
wood
frame,
it's
clad
in
wood
and
includes
a
side
gable
roof
with
a
centrally
located
dormer
on
the
South
elevation.
The
front
elevation
includes
character-defining
two-story,
ionic
entryway,
with
a
triangular
pediment
and
the
decorative
windows
above
the
entry.
K
K
The
North
elevation
has
a
central
secondary
entry
with
a
small
ornamental
pediment
window.
Above
all,
of
these
features
are
indicative
of
the
Colonial
Revival
style
city
directories
confirm
that
11:03
fourth
Street
South
East
began
as
a
single
family
rental
home
and
was
home
to
a
lawyer,
Lauren
Collins
and
his
family
between
1902
to
99
by
I'm.
K
For
over
a
century,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
demolish
the
building
and
construct
a
64
unit
apartment
building
on
the
corner
land
that
includes
the
subject
property
as
well
as
406
11th,
Avenue,
South,
East
and
410
11th
Avenue
southeast.
If
you
could
turn
this
slide,
please
I'm
sorry
I
realize
I.
Just
there
you
go
I
realize
I've
been
skipping
over
that
the
subject.
Property
retains
the
integrity
required
to
be
a
contributing
resource.
K
There
is
a
clear
association
integrity
wise
to
communicate
its
history
and
express
the
Colonial
Revival
style
through
its
features
as
well
that
are
still
extant
on
the
property
in
CFS
review.
However,
the
subject
properties
does
not
appear
to
be
individually
eligible
for
local
designation.
Under
the
designation
criteria.
C
M
I
A
N
Well,
this
is
Scott
Nelson,
the
one
thing
about
this
one
that
was
different
from
the
other
two
that
were
renovated.
More
uniquely,
is
this
one
maintained
two
units
in
the
first
level,
which
had
which,
where
it
was
where
the
living
dining
kitchen
was
in
fact
at
the
kitchen
for
one
is
in
what
was
once
the
porch
and
then
the
upper
levels
were
renovated
into
two
units,
but
they're
two
storey
units
each
with
their
own
stairs.
N
So
the
whole
mechanism
of
the
way
this
one
was
renovated
is
different
from
the
others
and
is
much
more
difficult
to
bring
to
a
code
compliance.
It
would
meet
with
current
current
codes.
The
outside
looks
similar,
but
the
inside
was
was
renovated
in
a
much
more
different,
different
manner
and
and
again
is
really
only
four
units,
whereas
the
others
were
more
like
14.
M
C
I
L
All
right,
Thank,
You,
Commissioner
Mack.
The
proposed
motion
in
this
case
would
be
to
deny
the
demolition
of
historic
resource
application
for
the
property
at
11:03.
4Th
Street
southeast,
establish
interim
protection
and
direct
the
Planning
Director
to
prepare
or
cost
to
be
prepared.
A
designation
study
for
a
potential
historic
district
to
include
the
properties
located
at
4:06,
11th,
Avenue,
South,
East,
410,
11th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
1103
fourth
Street
southeast.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
agree
that
it
is
a
little
unusual
for
us
to
just
decide
to
study
a
small
historic
district
like
this,
but
that
is,
it
would
be
somewhat
a
unique
contribution
to
the
historic
districts
we
currently
have
and
I
think.
That's
part
of
the
reason
we're
also
interested
in
seeing
what
a
study
of
this
might
bring
about
and
that
you
know
it.
C
P
C
That
concludes
our
public
hearing
items
as
it
came
up
in
the
public
hearing
discussion,
I
saw
the
Rob
responded
with
the
other
three
properties
in
the
chat
function,
which
is
1107,
11,
11,
11,
15,
4th
Street
southeast
commissioners
I'm
curious.
If
there
was
a
desire
to
separately
put
forward
a
nomination
for
those
properties
or
just
to
see
where
this
study
would
come
with
with
the
three
properties,
as
is
I,
guess,
maybe
I'm
dressing
this
to
Commissioner
Howard.
Since
you
brought
up
the
idea.
G
C
Agree
that
exploring
the
wider
context,
both
of
other
nearby
properties
by
the
same
developer
by
the
same
architect,
what
would
be
an
important
part
of
the
context,
but
also
probably
nearby
properties
that
were
the
same
use
at
the
same
time,
so
I
think
I
agree
that
I
don't
think
a
nomination
is
necessary
at
this
point.
Unless
there
is
a
commissioner
that
feels
otherwise.
J
I
C
I
C
Would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
bring
it
to
their
attention
early
enough.
I
know
I've
done
a
few
of
the
ones
where
we
do
outreach
early
on
in
a
district,
a
potential
district
study
and
I
guess
I
would
I
agree
that
we
need
to
do
a
certain
amount
of
due
diligence
before
we
contact
them
just
to
make
sure
they're
even
potentially
eligible
for
a
potential
district,
but
I
also
I
don't
want
this
to
come
out
of
nowhere
for
them
and
then
just
suddenly
find
themselves
on
the
list
that
they
didn't
know
existed.
C
So
I
guess
I'd
ask
staff
to
like
when
it
comes
to
a
point
where
we
know
whether
or
not
they
might
be
eligible
that
we
let
them
know
in
a
timely
manner.
Just
so
they're,
not
surprised
and
hearing
about
this
I,
don't
know
in
the
news
or
something
I
would
find
that
very
alarming.
If
it
was
me
I,
don't.
L
It's
okay:
during
the
designation
study
staff
can
reach
out.
I
mean
they
wouldn't
necessarily
say
that
hey
work,
we're
capturing
your
properties
for
this
study,
but
it'd
be
something
that
staff
would
research
and
then
you
know
reach
out
as
some
outreach
as
we
do
with
some
other
historic
district
studies
to
get
the
general
neighborhoods
opinion
on
them.
Okay,.
G
Yes,
sorry,
I
didn't
get
it
all.
Typed
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
four
commissioners
and
anyone
else
is
listening.
The
Society
of
architectural
historians
is
holding
their
annual
conference
virtually
and
registration
ends
tomorrow.
It's
a
really
great
deal,
it's
$100
to
listen
into
two
days
worth
of
presentations
and
there's
some
really
good
ones
on
the
agenda.
So
if
you're
looking
for
some
professional
development
I
know
we
all
have
way
more
than
we
can
do
on
our
plate
already.
But
I
did
take
a
look
at
the
Society
of
architectural
historians
website
for
more
information.