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From YouTube: April 13, 2020 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
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B
C
Good.
Thank
you.
Everybody
welcome
to
the
April
13th
2020
City
Planning
Commission
hearing.
My
name
is
Sam
Rockwell
and
I
serve
as
president
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission,
and
call
me
to
order.
The
time
is
now
for
thirty
three
in
lieu
of
recognizing
the
commissioners
who
are
here
with
me.
I
will
ask
the
clerk
and
should
please
all
the
roll
for
attendance.
A
D
E
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C
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G
C
Thank
you
very
much
next
on
our
agenda,
which
I
should
mention
just
to
anybody.
Who's
tuning
in
our
agenda
is
posted
on
the
city
of
Minneapolis
website
at
limbs,
minneapolis
MN
gov
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission,
a
section
of
that
site
next
item
up
on
our
agenda
is
labeled
under
consent,
but
it
is
actually
a
report
back
from
the
City
Planning
Commission
nominating
committee
commissioners,
squeezing.
F
Thank
You,
mr.
president
and
commission
commissioners,
the
nominating
committee
met
online
and
received
applications
and
nominations
for
three
people
to
fill
the
three
officer
positions
that
is,
president
Rockwell
for
the
president
spot
Commissioner
Luke
Cape
here
for
the
vice
president
spot
and
Commissioner
Alissa
Olson
for
the
position
of
secretary
and
I
would
move
those
nominations
as
a
as
a
slate
if
it's
appropriate.
C
G
G
C
Yeah
and
I
will
walk
through
for
the
folks
on
public
on
the
phone,
the
full
agenda
here,
each
agenda
item
that
is
open
for
public
hearing
and
walk
through
each
agenda
item.
If
you
wish
to
speak
on
one
of
these
items
and
have
not
previously
registered
yourself
for
that
item
that
please
speak
up
when
I
get
to
that
item
on
the
agenda.
You
speak
up
I,
getting
star
six
on
your
phone
line.
You
become
unmuted
and
you
can.
Let
us
know
that
you
wish
to
speak
on
that
item.
B
C
On
the
telephone,
all
right,
very
good,
sorry
I'm
switching
switching
to
switching
to
a
phone
here,
so
am
I
high
above
yours
better?
So
please,
if
you
wish
to
test
fine
and
are
them
unmute
yourself
by
using
star
six
and
move
and
let
us
know
if
I'm,
not
them
otherwise
would
be
placing
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
So
items
five
through
ten
are
not
subject
to
the
public
hearing
and
will
be
placed
on
the
consent.
Agenda.
Consent.
C
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C
I
J
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We
will
for
people
looking
to
speak
on
these
items
against
the
items
against
the
recommendation
of
staff.
Lunch
are
there
and
we
will
open
this
up
for
the
consent
agenda
for
people
wishing
to
speak
in
favor
of
any
of
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
If
you
wish
to
play
something
on
the
record,
Thanks.
H
A
K
C
Silence
in
his
confirmation
and
place
item
number
15
on
the
consent
agenda
and
again
we
were
placed
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
Unless
people
hear
people
who
wish
to
speak
against
staff
recommendations,
I,
don't
number
16
a
developmental
achievement
center
of
116
East
37th
Street
on
3128
31:36
Stevens
Avenue
in
Ward
8
is
anyone
that
could
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
16.
C
C
C
C
C
Nah
no
place
item
22
on
the
consent
agenda.
Item
number
23
is
the
port
Portland
and
Washington
mixed
use
at
240,
Portland,
Avenue
and
500
to
5
33rd
Street
South
in
Ward
3.
We
will
discuss
item
number
23,
add
a
number
24.
Is
we
Kip
North
Star
Academy
at
5050,
60
Oliver,
Avenue
North
in
Ward
4?
Anybody
here
on
the
line
to
speak
item
number
24.
C
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H
C
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C
C
Oh
very
good.
How,
as
a
member
is
as
follows:
we
will
discuss
items
23
and
26.
We
will
continue
item
19,
April,
the
April
27th
May
above
City
Planning
Commission
hearing
and
will
place
on
consent
items
number
12,
13,
14,
15,
16,
17,
18,
20,
21,
22,
24,
25,
27,
28,
29
and
30
mission
is
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended
Commissioner.
It's
mine.
C
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B
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M
M
The
proposed
development
includes
two
buildings:
it's
the
first
one
is
a
23-story
tower
with
238
dwelling
units
and
also
commercial
space
along
the
ground
floor,
fronting
Washington,
Avenue
south.
The
other
building
is
a
seventh
storey
residential
building
that
has
90
affordable
units,
also
a
new
fire
station
and
a
principal
parking
facility.
The
site
would
provide
off
street
parking
for
the
tower
and
for
the
fire
station,
but
not
for
the
affordable
units
that
are
in
the
low-rise
building
slide.
Please
so.
M
Staff
is
recommending
a
number
of
conditions
of
approval,
as
part
of
the
requested
conditional
use
permits
in
site
plan
review
and
most
of
which
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
the
applicant
would
like
to
discuss
two
conditions:
number
8
and
number
10
of
the
site
plan
review.
It's
also-
and
it's
also
condition
number
2
of
the
conditional
use
part
for
a
principal
parking
facility.
M
So
number
10
is
the
one
I'll
start
with,
and
this
one
requires
a
thin
fiber
cement
panel
on
the
low-rise
building
to
be
to
be
replaced
with
a
more
durable
material
and
as
an
alternative
that
relates
to
the
alternative
compliance
requested
for
exceeding
the
number
of
materials
allowed
per
elevation
staff
is
recommending
that
this
thin
painted
fiber
cement
material
be
replaced
with
something
that's
more
durable.
That
would
better
fit
into
the
context
of
downtown,
and
this
is
a
material
that
is
more
commonly
seen
in
low-density
residential
neighborhoods.
M
The
letter
submitted
by
the
neighborhood
group
also
calls
attention
to
the
usage
of
this
material
and
they're,
recommending
that
a
more
durable
material
be
used
slide.
Please,
oh
sorry,
and
one
more
please
thanks
and
here's
an
elevation
that
kind
of
shows
you
where
the
fiber
cement
would
be
placed
on
the
base
and
also
at
the
top
of
the
low-rise
building
slide
please
so.
Here's
the
site
layout.
M
There
was
maybe
a
one
second
difference
during
the
peak
hour,
so
staff
is
recommending
that
that
be
eliminated
too.
You
know
enhance
the
pedestrian
and
bicycle
environment
and
also
it
would
enhance
the
quality
of
the
building
and
it
wouldn't
have
an
impact
on
traffic
circulation.
This
is
also
confirmed
by
studies
that
have
been
done
internally
by
property
services
and
traffic,
and
this
concludes
my
presentation
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions.
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
mailing
I
just
have
a
quick
question
about
this
item.
I
know
this
item
was
also
on
the
because
of
the
fire
station.
It
was
on
clicks
review
last
year
for
capital
budget
programs
and
there
was
a
comment
on
this
item
and
that
was
basically
related
to
the
combining
of
a
fire
station
with
the
residential
unit
in
which,
in
this
case,
is
the
lower
tower
tower,
which
has
affordable
housing
in
it.
M
Thank
you.
No
thank
you.
Commissioner
or
smiley
I
wouldn't
really
be
able
to
speak
to
the
details
of
what's
being
done,
I
understand
that
there
it's
possible
that
they
might
be
constructed
kind
of
as
separate
buildings
altogether
and
I.
Think
that
would
most
likely
be
the
case
I'd
like
to
have
the
Apple
can't
answer
that
question
directly
about
any
mitigation
strategies,
because
I'm
not
aware
of
them.
C
K
O
O
I
think
I'll
speak
first
on
Commissioner
Smiley's
question
about
noise
mitigation
between
the
housing
and
the
fire
station.
I
guess
I
will
say
that
we
haven't
quite
gotten
to
the
level
of
detail
where
we
would
look
at
specific,
sound,
mitigating
assemblies,
but
I
will
note
that
the
fire
station
is
separated
from
the
housing
by
thick,
concrete
construction
and
both
floors
and
walls
and
and
that
the
fact
that
it's
affordable
housing
actually
places
a
bit
more
scrutiny
on
the
noise
based
on
some
of
the
funding
mechanisms.
O
There
are
and
I
don't
know
these
exact
performance
standards,
but
there
are
performance
standards
related
to
basically
acoustic
transmission
from
exterior
environments
to
interior
environment.
So
I
can't
answer
the
specific
question
but
know
that
that
it
is
on
our
on
our
development
teams
mind
and
that
there
are
agencies
and
standards
that
will
that
will
also
come
to
bear
in
this.
O
Great
well
I
guess:
I'll
speak
first
I
mean
I,
guess
I'll,
say
I'd
like
to
thank
male
anchor,
a
really
nice
staff
report
and
we're
very
grateful
for
the
for
the
overwhelmingly
positive
staff
report
and
there's
just
a
couple
of
conditions
that
we
would
like
to
speak
about.
So
I'll
talk
first
about
a
issue
which
I
believe
is
condition
number
eight
of
site
plan
review
and
also
condition
number
two
for
the
CT
for
principle
parking
facility.
They
kind
of
have
the
same
language,
so
this
has
been.
O
You
know,
probably
the
most
discussed
aspect
of
this
development,
as
we've
been
going
through
committee
of
the
whole
and
and
working
with
staffs
and
Public
Works
and
traffic,
and
we
do
recognize
that
the
the
third
street
curb
cut
is
a
somewhat
of
a
convenience
to
the
owner.
But
what
we'd
also
like
to
present
briefly
hopefully
tonight
is
that
we
think
that
there's
public
benefit
to
having
this
curb
cut
as
well
and
I
did
upload
a
an
exhibit.
The
graphic
exhibit
wonderful.
Thank
you
so
much
okay.
O
So
this
first
basically
there's
just
two
slides
and
they
show
our
proposed
condition
with
an
entrance
on
Third,
Street
and
and
then
the
alternate
condition
where
that
entrance
is
removed.
We
can
stay
on
this
first
slide
for
right
now,
so
subsequent
to
the
tdmp,
are
our
team,
including
our
traffic
consultant,
did
an
analysis
of
event,
night
traffic
and
the
primarily
the
reason
why
our
development
team
is
desiring.
O
O
What
happens
now
is
that
the
overflow
traffic
comes
down
third
Street
looking
for
a
place
to
park,
and
the
overwhelming
majority
of
that
traffic
entering
parking
in
the
15
minutes
prior
to
an
event,
and
also
in
the
peak
hour
prior
to
an
event
enter
through
that
third
Street
entrance
and
the
data
we
used
to
study.
This
was
taken
from
August
2018
during
two
events.
O
One
was
a
weekday
concert
and
the
other
was
a
Saturday
afternoon,
preseason
Vikings
game
and
basically,
what
the
what
the
data
shows
is:
a
distinct
spike
in
traffic
entering
the
parking
lot
from
the
3rd
Street
entrance
just
before
the
events
and
the,
and
so
maybe
we
could
go
to
so.
You
can
see
right
now
that
yellow
arrow
on
the
bottom
is
representing
auto
traffic.
That's
entering
from
3rd
Street.
O
You
can
also
see
that
there's
we're
also
pointing
out
the
presence
of
the
Gateway
Transit
Center,
which
is
on
Fifth
Avenue
between
3rd
Street
and
Washington,
and
then
also
you
can
see.
The
fire
station
here
highlighted
with
the
nicely
colored
fire
trucks,
and
so
what
what
we?
What
we
perceive
the
public
benefit
to
be
is
that
allowing
those
peak
loads
of
Parkers
to
enter
from
3rd
Street,
especially
during
an
event,
will
limit
the
number
of
vehicles
that
then
have
to
enter
what
is
often
a
very
congested
block
of
5th
Avenue
between
3rd
Street
and
Washington.
O
And
our
concern
is
that,
if,
if,
if
everyone
who
is
coming
from
from
the
stadium
wanting
to
park
in
this
facility,
then
turns
on
Fifth
Avenue
and
has
to
enter
there,
that
it
could
result
in
vehicle
queuing
potentially
in
front
of
the
fire
station
doors
and
the
other
benefit
would
be
keeping
additional
automobile.
Try
took
off.
O
That
block
would
also
remove
potential
conflicts
with
the
many
buses
that
enter
and
exit
the
gateway,
Transit
Center
I,
we
haven't
discussed
the
specificity
of
the
Third
Street
entrance,
or
the
merits
of
that,
specifically
with
Metro
Transit,
but
early
in
the
development
of
this
project.
They
were
concerned
enough
about
the
potential
for
increased
traffic
here
to
to
meet
with
our
team
and
reach
out
with
us
about
their
concerns
about
potential
impacts
to
the
to
the
transit
facility,
so
I.
If
we
could
go
to
the
second
slide.
O
On
third,
okay
I'm
familiar
enough
with
that,
exhibit
to
talk
about
it.
So
here
you
can
basically
see
that
it's
representing
that
traffic
from
third
Street
having
to
turn
right
from
third
Street
onto
Fifth
Avenue
and
then
enter
the
parking
facility
from
Fifth
Avenue,
adding
additional
cars,
particularly
during
that
15
minute
and
60
minute
peak
vehicle
load
prior
to
events.
O
I,
think
that's!
So!
Basically
what
we're
doing
is
we're.
You
know
we're
requesting
that
this
condition
of
approval
be
omitted
and
note
that
this
is
the
not
this.
This
hearing
and
this
approval
or
denial
of
this
feature
of
the
project
here
in
this
forum
does
not
include
the
fact
that
we
still
need
to
work
this
project
through
PDR
with
Public,
Works
and
traffic.
So
what
we're
simply
asking
is
that
this
specific
condition
be
removed
from
from
site
plan
review
and
then
mailing.
C
O
I
said
measure
numbers
okay,
great,
thank
you
so
conditioned
to
pretend
states
that
the
elevations
of
the
low-rise
building
shall
be
updated
to
replace
the
thin
fiber
cement
panel
with
a
more
durable
material,
basically
where
what
we'd
like
is
for
this
condition
to
also
be
removed,
or
merely
to
allow
us
flexibility
in
working
with
staff.
On
this,
it's
it's.
It's
really
more.
The
specificity
of
this
request
for
this
item
that
were
worried
might
sort
of
tire
hands
as
we're
as
were
as
we're
working
to
to
satisfy
staff
about
the
design
of
this
building.
O
Oh
note
that
the
building
does
contain
a
lot
of
brick
and
I
know
that
in
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting,
the
commissioners
were
were
largely
supportive
of
the
exterior
design
and
appreciates
him
granted.
We
didn't
talk
specifically
about
fiber
cement,
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
obvious
to
the
commissioners,
but
I
think
that
regardless
there's
a
lot
of
brick
on
this
material,
it
is
a
handsome
building
and
a
durable
building,
and
we
would
we
request
that
this
condition
be
removed
and
that's
all
I've
got
thank.
P
I
had
a
question
and
looking
at
the
exterior
elevations
in
question,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
ground
condition
of
the
plinth
I
I
know
that
in
the
past
we've
seen
the
use
of
fiber
cement
board
on
upper
storey
usually
set
back
portions
of
residential
buildings,
but
we
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
it
at
the
ground
level
and
it
looks
in
the
rendering
as
though
you
have
almost
like
a
water
table
and
then
and
then
that
and
then
the
brick.
So
can
you
just
talk
about?
P
O
O
O
Got
it
that's
where
I
am
so
yeah,
so
so,
basically,
that
water
table
that
bottom
two
feet
it's
possible
that
we
haven't
clearly
defined
what
that
material
is,
that
would
be
masonry
of
some
type
either
brick
or
for
possibly
stone
and
the
dark
gray
material
above
it
is,
is
the
fiber
cement
in
question,
and
it
is
a
combination.
You
can
see
that
there's
some
some
deep
trim
that
that
borders
it.
O
The
material
would
would
would
be
fiber
cement
as
well,
but
a
bit
of
trim
piece
which
comes
in
in
thicker
profiles,
I'm,
not
sure
the
exact
dimension
of
it,
but
it
could
really
be
any
any
dimension
that
we
choose.
What
would
what
it
appears
to
be,
and
this
rendering
looks
more,
like
you
know,
might
be
an
inch
and
a
half
or
two
inches
of
a
change
in
plain,
perhaps
more
so
it
would
be
instead
being
sort
of
boxed
out
with
with
additional
thin
fiber
cement.
P
O
That
would
be
the
same
same
material
painted
fiber
cement
and
and
that's
a
detail
we
reuse
actually
fairly,
often
in
particularly
in
that
in
that
application
in
between
windows.
It's
it's
fairly
common.
We
used
that
on
the
205
park
project,
and
we
also
did
that
I
think
I
can't
think
of
another
project
right
now,
but
I
know
that
we
use
that
detail
on
205
Park.
P
M
Q
C
O
That's
that
tap
request
is
new
information
to
me.
I,
don't
believe
that
came
up
in
in
the
PDR
process,
so
that
would
be
new
information
to
me
and
it
would
I
mean
I
think
it
would
certainly
might
certainly
assist
the
fire
department
in
in
exiting
easily.
But
I
also
know
that
you
know,
for
instance,
a
hook
and
ladder
truck
as
it's
exiting.
I
assume
has
a
very
wide
swing
and
would
probably
need
to
use
several
lanes
in
order
to
in
order
to
exit.
C
And
it's
you
know:
it's
not
a
final
plan,
so
got
it
see
if
that
ends
up
being
in
that
final
final
draft,
very
good
commissioners,
any
further
questions
of
the
Afghan
other
rows
that
will
open
it
up
to
public
I'm,
not
sure
if
there's
no
one
here
to
testify,
see
any
other
questions
coming
from
commissioners.
So
thank
you
to
the
applicant
and
they're
open
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
the.
C
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Q
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A
O
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C
C
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M
We
don't
have
regulations
that
prohibit
that
necessarily
we
regulate
it
through
the
maximum
durability
per
elevation
of
30
percent,
and
this
this
project
does
comply
with
those
maximums.
So
we're
tying
this
more
to
the
number
of
exterior
materials
that
they
have
and
trying
to
kind
of
rein,
bring
that
in
from
an
aesthetic
and
durability
standpoint.
I
could
also
maybe
turn
it
over
to
miss
Helene,
and
maybe
she
would
have
greater
recollection
of
specific
examples
if
you'd
like
to
chime
in.
G
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Q
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D
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C
D
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D
Q
D
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C
G
C
R
E
S
D
S
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C
That
motion
carries-
and
that
concludes
our
business
with
item
number
23
before
taking
up
our
next
discussion
item
item
number
26
staff
has
very
helpfully
reminded
me
that
I
noted
that
we
do
not
have
a
public
hearing
on
items
number
five
through
ten,
our
land
sales
and
then
I
promptly
did
not
put
them
on
a
consent
agenda.
So.
H
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N
Good
evening,
commissioners,
the
site
before
you
is
16
26,
East,
Lake,
Street
and
2940
17th
Avenue.
South.
These
pistols
are
located
at
the
intersection
of
17th
Avenue
south
and
link
Street.
They
are
separated
by
a
public
alley
that
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
vacate
as
part
of
the
proposal.
The
both
sites
are
zoned
c1
and
the
site
has
split
guidance
in
2040,
with
16
2016,
6,
Street,
personal
guided
4
corridor
mixed-use
and
corridor
6,
and
then
the
29:40
parcel
guided
for
interior
3
and
urban
neighborhood.
N
The
the
proposed
design
as
you'll
see,
does
kind
of
respect
that
split
guidance
with
a
building
that
steps
down
from
5
stories
to
3
stories
at
the
midpoint
of
the
proposed
vacated
alley.
So
the
building
itself
would
contain
36
filling
units
and
4755
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
which
is
divided
into
five
retail
spaces,
three
of
which
front
on
Lake
Street
and
two
of
which
front
on
17th
next
slide.
N
The
applications
required,
including
additionally
use
permits
to
increase
the
maximum
allowed
height
from
three
stories
of
or
42
feet
to
five
stories
or
51.2
feet.
We're
going
to
increase
in
maximum
floor
area
ratio
from
2.0
four
to
two
point:
six
four
varies
to
reduce
the
minimum
dwelling
unit,
size
for
one-bedroom
units
from
500
square
feet
to
451
square
feet
and
site
plan
review
and
the
ally
vacation
next
slide.
N
N
This
is
the
site
plan
proposed.
You'll,
see
indicated
here
the
personal
alley
vacation,
so
the
applicant
is
proposing
five
parking
spaces
that
would
be
accessed
off
of
the
remaining
alley
and
the
current
alley
is
a
t-shape
alley,
and
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
vacate
one
full
arm
of
the
alley.
Though
the
the
western
portion
of
the
vacation
would
be.
N
There
would
be
a
split
access
easement
with
the
Salvation
Army
to
allow
for
them
to
continue
to
use
that
as
well
as
the
applicants
next
slide,
here's
a
floor
plan
that
shows
that
configuration
of
the
first
floor,
including
those
five
commercial
spaces,
a
community
room
and
office
for
the
residential
buildings.
The
building
is
set
back
from
the
north
property
line
to
preserve
the
required
setbacks
there,
our
next
slide,
and
then
you
can
actually
forward
two
slides.
N
And
then,
if
you'll
forward
to
the
following
slide,
that
there
are
some
renderings
of
the
proposed
building,
so
this
building,
in
particular
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
increase
in
height
and
the
variance
for
the
increase
in
floor
area
ratio
both
have
to
do
with
the
c1
zoning
and
the
fact
that
c1
does
not
allow
the
density
that
is
called
for
in
the
2040
plan,
both
the
height
and
that
they
are
are
likely
consistent.
Even
though
we
haven't,
we
haven't
formalized
the
floor
area
ratios
that
will
be
allowed
in
these
districts
in
the
future.
N
The
proposal
does
seem
consistent
with
what
we
would
likely
expect,
so
both
the
conditional
use
permit
and
if
they
are
variants,
are
compatible
with
the
2040
guidance.
In
addition,
the
unit
size
variance
Stefan
that
to
be
reasonable,
given
the
narrow
width
of
the
parcel
and
the
need
to
have
a
double
loaded
or
the
there
to
have
a
double
loaded
corridor
on
the
upper
step
or
upper
storeys
and
staff
is
also
recommending
approval
of
the
site
plan
review
and
a
limitation.
N
E
Hi,
mr.
chair
and
Lindsay,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
ally,
vacation
and
kind
of
wondering.
How
is
that
Ally
currently
used
and
what
are
the
from
the
staff
perspective?
The
potential
implications
of
closing
that
ally
altogether
and
and
I
understand
that
it
wouldn't
necessarily
change
traffic
too
much,
but
I'm
still
kind
of
wondering
what
they
use
is
currently.
N
So
the
if
I
think
you
can
put
a
slide
number
four
in
that
presentation.
The
ally
is
currently
a
t-shaped
ally,
so
there's
currently
a
connection
from
16
through
to
17th
and
then
that
splits
to
go
north
along
the
residential
Ally.
My
understanding
is
that
the
northern
portion
of
the
ally
is
primarily
is
for
residential
uses.
N
However,
my
understanding
from
the
neighborhood
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
concerns
about
traffic,
I,
think
there's
a
grocery
on
16th
and
there
are
lots
of
issues
with
traffic
coming
through
Salvation
Army
parking
lots
and
cutting
through
that
alley
to
get
around
congestion
on
East
Lake
Street.
So
there
was
some
hope
that
potentially
closing
off
that
arm
of
the
Ally
would
reduce
would
reduce
traffic
in
the
alley.
For
folks
who
are
using
that
as
a
shortcut.
C
I
I'm
here
my
name
is
clay
tjuta
and
I'm,
representing
the
the
owner
as
the
applicant
for
this
process,
so
I
first
I
want
to
thank
Lindsey
very
much
for
the
great
job
she
did
was
a
long
process,
so
we
work
together
solving
all
the
issues
that
came
up
I.
Also
thank
the
neighborhood
several
meetings
that
we
went
to
trying
to
accommodate
the
project
and
thank
the
commissioners
for
for
being
here
and
discussing
these
items
with
us
today.
So
this
project,
commissioners
Maya,
asked
what
the
L
is
being
used
for
today.
I
I
have
the
answer
for
it.
The
LA
today
is
being
used
for
drug
dealing
and
prostitution,
and
nothing
else
also.
We
have
been
finding
lots
of
garbage
on
that
portion
of
the
alley
on
that
portion
of
the
lamp
and
being
a
three-way
ally.
We
have
a
problem
that
we
have
traffic
going
through
traffic
that
try
to
avoid
the
light.
They
closed
the
red
light
on
Lake,
Street
and
17th
when
the
light
is
closed.
I
Traffic
traveling
17th
southbound
locust
into
the
alley
to
the
parking
lot
of
Salvation
Army,
who
also
were
having
issues
with
that
traffic
coming
through
because
they
have
kids
a
lot
of
times
there
and
we
we
had
some
study
done
and
we
mined
myself.
We
stopped
there
in
couple
of
days
and
made
videos
of
this
happening.
It
really
happens.
Traffic
coming
from
17
goes
into
the
alley
out
out
to
the
Salvation.
I
Army
also
goes
into
the
alley
and
out
into
16,
even
traffic
coming
from
Lake
Street,
when
the
sign
is
red,
traveling
west
will
cut
into
Salvation
Army
out
into
the
alley
drive
into
17
other
than
that.
We
are
proposing
a
very
nice
building
with
36
units
which
one
is
going
to
be
accessible
and
all
of
the
other
is
going
to
be
site
to
be
convertible
units.
We
are
offering
10%
of
them
affordable
and
we
are
playing.
I
There
is
to
clean
up
that
corner
and
put
cameras
and
security
and
lightning
and
then
make
that
corner
beautiful
again.
So
that's
our
proposition
is
a
nice
building
with
a
lot
of
amenity.
We
are
using
about
20%
of
this
area
of
the
building.
For
community
spaces,
with
a
community
room,
we
have
gym,
we
have
decks
community
decks.
On
top
of,
we
have
a
backyard
with
table
and
recreational
area,
and
also
we
have
a
bike
shop.
We
have
a
bike
parking
and
that
is
that
the
some
of
the
things
we
we've
done.
We
change
the
project.
I
From
the
beginning.
We
have
bigger
commercial
units
through
discussion
with
the
neighborhood
trying
to
accommodate
for
for
one
of
the
issues
that
came
out.
That
was
parking
for
the
building.
Even
we
still
supplying
more
parking
spots
then
recommended
and
then
recommended
by
the
code.
We
still
were
concern
about
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
neighborhood,
which
was
parking.
B
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C
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J
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J
Rob
Cernik
29:31,
16th,
Avenue
South
I
can
actually
speak
about
some
of
the
issues
around
the
alley.
Instead
of
talking
about
some
random
visits
over
here,
yeah
I,
just
I,
don't
want
to
revisit
stuff
around
the
opposition
in
this
project.
But
it's
not
true
that
it
was
just
two
or
three
people
that
nobody
had
ever
showed
up
to
meetings.
J
Based
on
some
of
the
issues
and
concerns
from
the
residents
I
know
there
were
emails
that
had
gone
out
and
there
was
a
petition
that
had
gone
out
mostly
around
the
affordability
issues.
My
neighborhood
is
a
very,
very
poor,
neighborhood
and
we're
talking
you
know
some
of
these,
the
penthouse
I
believe
being
a
close
to
a
million
dollars.
Something
like
that.
J
So
you
know
we
were
very
concerned
about
the
affordability
and
sort
of
the
displacement
issues
around
this
project,
but
I'm
here
to
speak
about
a
couple
of
things
that
the
Planning
Commission
can
be
helpful
with
first
I'd
like
to
speak
about
the
trees
and
the
landscaping
and
I'd
really
like
to
encourage
you
to
continue
with
asking
for
trees.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
tree
cover
over
here.
This
neighborhood.
J
If
you
look
on
some
of
the
air
pollution
maps,
is
some
of
the
dirtiest
air
in
the
in
the
city,
and
it
also,
coincidentally,
has
some
of
the
least
amount
of
tree
cover.
So
anything
we
can
do
to
create
tree
cover,
especially
this
large
building
is
going
to
Cree
a
lot
of
urban
heat
mass,
and
so
we
already
have
a
hot
area.
That's
going
to
be
made
even
hotter
by
this
by
this
building.
So
I'd
really
like
you
to
think
about
making
sure
trees
shade
trees
are
part
of
the
landscape.
J
I'd
like
to
speak
about
this
alley,
though
we
have
a
lot
of
concerns
and
it's
not
just
a
drug
dealing
and
prostitution
that
happens
in
our
alley,
a
lot
of
residents.
We
do
use
our
alleys
over
here.
One
of
the
reasons
because
16th
and
17th
Avenue
have
a
lot
of
67
who
has
a
lot
of
traffic
congestion
because
of
a
grocery
store
on
the
corner
over
here
and
a
lot
of
customers
of
that
grocery
store
use
the
north
and
south
alley
to
get
around
16th
Avenue
to
cut
down
a
29th
Street.
J
And
yes,
a
lot
of
people
do
use
that
alley
to
cut
off
of
late
Street
and
to
cut
East
and
West.
Closing
that
alley
off
on
one
end
is
really
just
going
to
increase
our
livability
a
lot
of
our
neighbors.
Their
kids
play
in
the
alleys
because
they
can't
play
on
16th
Avenue
because
of
the
traffic
and
because
of
the
congestion.
J
So
we'd
asked
you
to
explore
possibly
closing
that
southern
end,
making
it
a
dead-end
alley.
It
practically
is
a
dead-end
alley.
It
only
runs
between
Lake,
Street
and
29th
before
it
hits
the
Greenway.
So,
for
all
intents
and
purposes
it
doesn't
cut
through.
It
really
only
needs
access
for
residents
and
for
garbage
collection,
and
that
could
be
dealt
with
by
closing
off
our
southern
end
of
the
alley.
That
would
discourage
people
from
trying
to
cut
through
an
attempt
to
create
a
short
cut
over
here.
J
A
couple
other
things
I'd
like
to
think
about
some
of
the
street
designs,
especially
designing
for
crime
reduction
really
having
eyes
on
the
street
I
know,
there's
a
lot
empty
walls
over
here,
empty
walls
or
just
places
where
people
kind
of
tuck
away
and
any
time
you
can
have
windows
so
that
the
people
inside
you
can
kind
of
see
what's
happening
outside.
That
could
be
a
solution
to
some
of
these.
J
It's
kind
of
an
interesting
meeting
for
this
I
know
other
folks
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
make
it
to
this
meeting
as
it
was.
Even
it
was
in
person,
and
there
were
some
language
issues
and
Technology
access
issues
for
some
some
other
neighbors,
so
I'm
glad
to
be
able
to
speak
here.
I
think
one
of
my
other
neighbors
might
be
on
the
line.
To
maybe
talk
about
this
too
yeah.
That's
that's
all
I
have.
C
R
Hi
good
afternoon,
Joshua
Nathan
29:32
17th
Avenue
South.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
concern
about
being
proposed.
Development
I
really
only
have
two
concerns,
although
that
would
really
be
in
addition
to
the
concerns
that
Robster
directors
welcome
as
well.
I
have
two
specific
concerns.
Maybe
the
first
one
might
be
easily
addressed
by
the
applicant
and
the
second
one
I
think
it's
really
more
of
a
troubling
issue
for
me
and
I
know
that
many
of
my
neighbors
have
spoken
about
this
as
well
amongst
ourselves.
R
N
R
And
I
appreciate
that,
however,
I
am
a
little
bit
concerned
looking
at
that,
in
that
it
appears
to
offer
a
space
for
an
additional
deck
or
outdoor
upper
floor
space
atop
that
third
floor
to
possibly
be
developed
in
the
future
I'm
wondering
if,
after
my
comments,
it
might
be
possible
to
receive
some
sort
of
assurance
from
the
applicants
that
that
is
not
in
the
works.
We
were
moving
like
to
not
have
common
outdoor
space
towering
over
our
property.
So
that's
my
first
concern,
one
that
I
think
is
probably
easily
addressed.
R
R
Given
the
density
and
number
of
units
in
the
in
the
building,
and
given
that,
while
some
of
these
units
are
going
to
be
affordable,
housing
designated
and
I
appreciate
that
enough
of
them
will
not
be
where
I
really
do
have
to
wonder
how
many
of
these
middle
or
upper
income
occupants
of
these
units
would
realistically
not
have
automobiles
of
their
own,
and
should
they
bring
their
automobiles
with
them.
I'm
wondering
where
exactly
they
would
park
them.
R
It
doesn't
appear
that
the
plan
submitted
really
takes
resident
parking
in
mind
and
I
certainly
understand
the
concept
of
a
transit
corridor,
but
I
would
point
out
to
them
to
those
that
are
interested,
that
this
neighborhood
actually
has
a
very
high
density
of
renters
versus
owners.
So
we
already
on
16th
and
17th
and
18th
Avenue.
R
Don't
really
have
a
lot
of
street
parking
as
it
is
I'm
looking
out
of
the
empty
street
right
now,
because
we
have
construction
going
on,
but
typically
it's
very
full
of
people,
I
I'm,
trying
to
imagine
the
impact
of
having
as
many
as
3
dozen
people
and
their
family
members
looking
for
a
place
to
park
their
cars
at
night.
It's
primarily
for
that
reason
that
I
speak
in
opposition
to
this
project.
That's
currently
plan.
But
those
are
my
two
concerns,
so
that's
pretty
much
all
I
have
to
offer.
C
J
C
O
I
A
I
Don't
think
it's
even
good
for
the
project
to
have
that
as
a
deck,
so
we
are
not
gonna.
Do
it
back
there.
I
can
assure
you
that
another
thing
I
would
like
to
talk
about
is
that
all
of
the
units,
the
plan
rental
value,
is
between
1300
and
1600,
which
itself
seems
very
affordable.
When
mr.
Robb
said
something
about
a
million
dollar
penthouse
hi
I,
don't
I,
don't
I
cannot
relate
to
that.
I
In
that
neighborhood,
we
are
offering
like
I,
said
before:
biking
shot,
biking,
parking,
a
bunch
of
biking
biking
and
then
we
still
offering
silk
to
houses,
even
though
the
codon
does
not
require
for
them
we
are,
we
are.
We
do
have
Co
phones.
Of
course,
it
won't
be
an
office.
Everybody
wants
to
have
a
car
on
the
building,
but
we
do
not
will
not
encourage
residents
with
cars
to
be
in
first
line
of
renting
the
place.
I
One
last
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
the
owner,
commissioner,
asked
about
who
was
the
owner
Gorgui
Dieng
he's
very
his
he's
very
into
helping
communities
and
then,
when
we
first
found
this
land
he's,
is
it
that
he
have
a
hair
saloon
in
the
corner
of
that
one
of
those
corners
that
he
goes
or
used
to
go
now.
He
is
not
playing
here
anymore,
but
he
used
to
go
and
visit
that
corner
frequently.
I
He
knows
the
difficulties
of
that
corner,
and
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
he
wanted
to
get
that
land
is
to
try
to
improve
and
help
here
the
country
that
he
is
getting
his
breath
from
and
not
only
Africa
where
he
is
from.
So
he
also
wants
to
do
something
not
only
looking
for
profit
but
to
help
in
a
community
that
is
one
of
his
main
goals
is
to
help
to
give
back
to
the
community
what
he
is
getting
from
this
country.
P
H
N
Maximum
impervious
surface
area,
so
the
applicant
has
proposed
1200
square
feet
of
landscaped
area,
37
shrubs
and
they
did
propose
two
trees,
but
the
trees
didn't
meet
the
requirements
of
canopy
trees
and
I
apologized
Commissioner
looky-loo
keep
here
there.
I
did
not
include
the
landscape
plan
in
the
presentation
here.
N
Let's
see
and
then
as
far
as
the
condition
so
the
applicant,
the
building
is
built
at
a
zero
lot
line
bordering
the
property
to
the
west.
The
the
surface
parking
lot
for
the
Salvation
Army
and
within
the
last
few
years
the
city
has
reduced
the
requirement
for
side
yard
setbacks
for
buildings
that
have
commercial
zoning
to
allow
for
the
building
of
a
consistent
Street
wall.
That
is
something
that
we
like
to
encourage
where
it's
possible,
and
so
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
build
the
first
floor
out
of
zero
lot
line.
N
The
the
building
code
does
not
allow
openings
on
on
those
walls
that
are
built
out
of
zero
lot
lines.
So
there
are
blank
walls
in
the
West
elevation.
The
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
with
the
condition
that
the
apple
can
provide
a
mural
to
mitigate
that
blank
wall
condition.
While
there
are
blank
walls
in
terms
of
windows
that
are
opening
so,
and
there
are
windows
at
that.that,
south
south
side
on
the
corner
to
hopefully
provide
some
eyes
on
the
street
as
well
as
windows
on
the
residential
floors
above
including
some
rooftop
amenity
space.
N
That
would
look
over
that
space.
As
well
to
get
those
eyes
on
the
street
and
then
I
guess
if,
if
IT
were
to
scroll
to
the
and
slide
the
condition
that
staff
is
recommending
with
regards
to
blank
walls
had
to
do
with
the
North
elevation,
the
fourth
and
fifth
floors
on
the
North
elevation.
Each
only
have
one
window,
so
staff
was
recommending
bed
those
that
that
big
blank
wall
be
mitigated
on
that
floor
by
adding
additional
windows
there.
So.
P
N
P
I
Yes,
we
are,
we
are
very,
very
in
accordance
with
adding
trees
as
most
as
we
can
making
that
area
green
and
clean.
That's
our
idea
and
safe
and
then
I
think
I
didn't
mention
each
of
the
36
units.
Every
single
one
of
them
have
a
balcony
that
hangs
over
the
wall
of
the
building.
So
we
do
have
all
the
units
with
balconies
with
eyes
on
the
street
and
lots
of
lights
around
the
building
as
well.
I
Another
thing
about
the
the
wall
on
on
Salvation
Army,
two
things
about
it
is
that,
first
of
all,
we
have
plans
after
Lindsay
proposed.
We
have
plans
to
use
to
do
a
mural
of
a
team
of
a
basketball,
because
Varghese
is
donating
a
basket.
I
have,
according
to
the
parking
lot
of
Salvation
Army
to
the
Salvation,
Army
kids,
to
play,
and
therefore
he's
gonna
then
put
proposing
at
basketball
team
on
this
mural
sign
it
by
him.
I
Perhaps,
and
then
also
we
have
been
working
with
gargy
and
Salvation
Army
to
redevelop
Salvation
Army's
portion
because
they
are
having
issues
special
now
with
with
what
we
are
going
through
with
coronavirus.
They
are
having
issues
with
space
for
storing
food,
for
distributing
food
for
for
shelter
for
people,
and
we
are
working
with
them
trying
to
develop
sort
of
a
plan.
We
are
sketching.
B
I
Yes,
we
can,
we
have
space
for
more,
so
we
we
only
need
to
save
a
space
for
the
snow
piling
and
we
we
have
a
more
space
in
this
landscaping
area.
We
have
over
a
thousand
square
feet
of
landscaping
that
we
are
proposing.
We
had
some
ceilings
and
then
some
space
for
perhaps
reading
or
or
yoga,
or
even
a
barbecue
and
outside
sort
of
of
entertainment.
But
we
do
still
have
space
for
trees
and
we
are
open
to
add
trees
and,
however
many
it
fits
perhaps
as
the
commissioners
recommend
or
suggest,.
C
N
S
Yeah
hi
I'm,
just
reading
to
the
distaff
report
and
I,
won't
understand
the
affordability
that
we're
talking
about.
Is
it
affordable
because
of
this
small
unit
size
or
is
there
any
type
of
set
aside
for
horrible
housing
and
this
project
is
calculating?
It
still
looks
like
it's
about
three
dollars:
a
square
foot
so.
I
So
what
is
this
amount?
Six?
Thirteen
to
sixteen
are
what
we
are
planning
to
offer
the
units
that
are
non
affordable,
perhaps
to
me
it
seems
like
they
are
pretty
cheap
considered
to
the
ones
I
saw
around
there,
but
we
are
required
to
have
ten
percent
of
units
to
be
affordable,
and
that
is
according
to
a
formula
that
the
city
have
to
calculate
the
amount,
and
then
we
are
going
to
be
doing
that
too
for
those
ten
percent
of
units.
I
As
therefore,
through
the
Affordable
program,
the
building
does
not
is
not
involved
in
any
funds
or
any
special
market
special
loans
for
affordability
through
the
city
or
state
or
federal.
So
we
are
doing
the
percentage
that
is
required
by
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
to
attempt
the
affordability
of
that.
I
Just
a
quicker
I
forgot
to
mention
that
why
16
13
and
16
seems
low
to
me,
I
didn't
mention
that
every
unit
have
the
laundry
in
their
unit.
So
all
of
the
units
have
its
own
laundry
off
the
units
have
its
own
balconies
and
it's
gonna,
be
a
glass
balcony
and
also
every
unit
have
it
its
own
alien
cooling
system.
So.
S
I
S
I
S
Good
and
then
my
last
question
was
just
about
if
there
is
space
while
we're
talking
about
landscaping
about
added
trash,
if
you
have
all
the
four
additional
retail
spaces
out
there,
you
have
36
units
of
people
bikers
coming
through
hungry.
You
know
all
the
people
using
the
different
spaces
would
just
I
would
just
suggest
thinking
about
adding
extra
trash,
receptacles
right.
I
C
N
C
C
E
B
C
G
G
C
Well-
and
you
know,
on
behalf
of
the
commissioners-
thank
you
so
much
to
all
the
staff
seabed
staff
clerk's
office,
all
of
our
icy
folks
who
helped
make
this
happen.
This
was
smoother
than
some
of
the
public
in-person
hearings
we've
had
so.
Thank
you
all.
This
was
great
and
glad
that
this
worked
with
that
eye
meeting
is
adjourned.