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From YouTube: December 14, 2020 Animal Care and Control Advisory Board
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B
All
right-
and
I
heard
in
a
second,
oh
second-
awesome-
we
have
a
proper
motion
before
us.
Is
there
any
discussion
before
the
clerk
calls
the
rule
we
already
called
the
roll,
so
I
think
we
can
say
that
motion
to
begin
the
meeting
passes
all
right
before
I
open
the
hearing
to
public
comments.
B
Let
me
summarize
the
process
for
conducting
the
public
hearing
in
this
online
format.
First,
we
will
be
taking
speakers
in
order
that
they
pre-registered.
B
If
any
speakers
will
be
limited
to
two
minutes,
we
ask
that
after
your
name
is
called
that
you
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
to
your
con
comments.
After
we've
completed
the
list
of
any
pre-registered
speakers,
we
will
see
if
there
are
any
speakers
in
the
queue
who
may
have
called
in
in
order
to
activate
your
microphones,
you'll
need
to
press
pound
six
on
your
phone
with
that
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
identify
this
first
speaker
in
the
queue.
If
there
are
any.
B
All
right
I
would
say,
then
we
can
proceed
with
the
agenda,
all
right.
So
do
I
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
september
14th,
meeting
animal
caring
control,
advisory
board.
B
All
right,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
aye
motion
passes
all
right.
So
moving
down
the
agenda.
We
now
have
the
agenda
item
just
for
discussion.
We
have
one
agenda
item
called
adoption
initiative.
D
Okay,
you
know
what
I'm
not
prepared,
I
hate
to
admit
it,
but
but
I
wanted
you
to
talk
about
the
december
adoption
initiative.
C
Oh
okay,
so,
as
most
of
you
probably
know
for
the
month
of
december,
it
was
decided
that
we
would
wave
all
adoption
fees
for
all
animals
dog
cat
critter,
as
well
as
all
rescue
transfer,
pool
fees
for
any
animal
that
needed
rescue
placement
or
that
a
rescue
chose
to
take.
C
Even
if
they
were
an
adoption
floor
candidate,
it
would
be
a
waived
fee.
That's
been
going
very,
very
well.
We
can
hardly
keep
an
animal
on
the
adoption
site.
We
get
appointment,
requests
very
quickly.
The
hardest
part
is
occasionally
no
shows
on
appointments
and
the
occasional
people
choose
not
to
which
is
a
good
thing.
If
they
decide
it's
not
a
good
fit,
but
we
I
mean
cats.
We
have
four
in
the
whole
building
at
the
moment,
or
something
like
that.
C
Four
to
six,
because
we've
been
they've
anything,
that's
a
doctor's
been
flying
out
the
door
and
we've
been
again
kind
of
managing
our
intake
with
the
research
of
covid
trying
to
maintain
a
lower
population,
not
knowing
what
could
come
in
with
the
owners
being
sick
that
kind
of
stuff
along
that
line.
We
also
about
adoptions.
We
put
up
our
first
fiv
positive
cat
for
adoption,
and
it
was
already
adopted.
C
It
was
a
senior
girl
who
had
no
other
than
being
senior
had
no
health
concerns
and
we
ran
blood
work
and
just
did
the
felfip,
because
we
ran
blood
work
and
she
was
an
indoor
cat
and
she
happened
to
be
positive
but
put
her
up
with
a
write-up
and
she
she
had
adoption
appointment
within
a
day
or
two
and
has
been
adopted
and
gone
home,
so
all
good
there.
So
that's
an
exciting
another.
C
C
We
did
have
one
not
in
december,
but
that
I
assisted
with
that
made
the
decision
not
to
adopt
because
it
was
not
a
good
fit
with
their
dog
or
it
didn't
seem
to
be,
and
it
was
definitely
going
to
be
more
work
to
acclimate
the
dogs
to
each
other
than
other
fits
might
be.
C
So,
overall,
I
think
adoption
stuff
has
gone
really
well
for
us.
I
think
by
appointment
has
given
us
the
ability
to
really
counsel
people
better
and
spend
more
time
with
them.
We've
been
booking
cat
adoption,
appointments
for
45
minutes
and
dogs
for
an
hour,
and
we
are
able
then,
to
spend
more
time
talking
to
them,
giving
them
more
information
answering
their
questions.
We
know
who
they're
coming
in
to
look
at
doesn't
always
mean
they
leave
with
that
one,
but
because
of
the
way
we're
booking
them.
C
Most
people
have
to
kind
of
say
this
is
the
one
I'm
really
interested
in
and
kind
of
make
that
decision
ahead
of
time,
just
because
we
have
so
many
people
wanting
to
adopt
right
now,
especially
with
the
waived
fees,
but
we
are
able
to
get
folks
in,
and
we've
had
a
few
that
we
had
others
available
and
they've
counseled
them
and
gone.
You
know
what
try
meet
this
one
and
they
end
up
picking
the
other
one,
because
that
was
a
better
fit
for
them.
C
E
I
don't
have
a
question,
but
I
do
have
a
request
if
you
guys
are
comfortable
with
it
for
friends
of
mac,
I
would
love
to
do
a
follow-up
on
the
fiv
cat
that
got
adopted
out
and
announced
that
that
was
a
first
for
the
shelter
with,
like,
I
don't
know
some
kind
of
follow-up
of
yay
it's
in
its
home
and
it's
happy
and
it's
healthy
and
all
that
jazz.
If
the
adopter
would
be
willing,
yeah.
C
E
E
Sorry,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think
the
community
would
love
to
know
that,
and
I
know
mac
is
already
getting
props
within
the
rescue
community
for
not
euthanizing,
felv
and
fib,
which
a
lot
of
shelters
are
still
doing.
But
I'd
love
it
if
the
greater
community
knew
that
too
so
perfect.
A
D
So
mac
part,
that's
we'll
talk
about
budget
in
just
a
little
bit,
but
I
do
believe
that
your
managed
intake
and
controlling
the
flow
in
the
shelter
is
probably
going
to
far
exceed
coven
honestly,
partly
because
of
our
staffing
issues
that
we're
gonna
encounter
in
2021
through
probably
2023
so
but
we'll
talk
about
that
when
we
talk
about
budget.
C
We
are
loving
appointments,
a
lot
of
staff
really
really
like
appointments,
even
not
just
for
adoptions.
For
anything,
we
don't
have
a
random
person
walking
in
and
starting
to
yell
at
us,
because
we
have
their
dog
and
we're
trying
to
help
them
what
they
need
and
whatever
like
it's,
much
more
controlled.
We're
also
able
to
vet
people
ahead
of
time
on
what
they're
interested
for
adoption
when
they're
coming
to
get
their
dog,
what
do
we
need?
C
You
know,
make
sure
they
walk
in
with
a
rabies
certificate,
so
they
don't
have
to
pay
for
us
to
do
it
and
we're
not
trying
to
call
the
vets
and
things
like
that.
So
appointments
have
been
great,
a
great
byproduct
of
this,
and
it's
something
that
we
definitely
want
to
work
into
the
future
for
us
it
just.
It
might
not
be
everything
appointment,
but
definitely
something
that
we
want
to
continue
doing,
because
it
has
really
been
beneficial
and
much
more
customer
service
friendly.
D
Adoption
stuff,
it's
also
been
a
lot
safer,
not
just
for
my
staff
but
for
community
and
the
animals,
because,
prior
to
those
people,
were
just
sort
of
wandering
around
the
shelter
willy-nilly
and
we've
had
people
get
their
hands
bit
and
all
kinds
of
just
crazy.
It's
usually
not
the
animal's
fault,
but
you
know
once
they
bite
we
kind
of
get
a
pickle.
So
it's
I
think
it's
overall
just
a
safer
with
the
limited
staff
that
we
do
have
it's
just
safer
for
everybody.
B
Thanks
for
that
update,
that's
it
sounds
really
good
and.
F
B
Very
glad
that
everything
is
going
well
and
awesome
that
you
can
find
good
silver
linings
from
all
of
this
disruption
too.
So
that's
awesome.
The
next
agenda
item.
It
was
a
presentation
parks
for
all
danielle
or
caroline.
Is
that
something
you
can
walk
us
through.
C
There
is
a
link
in
the
agenda
that
was
sent
out.
I
also
sent
it
out
with
an
email
carolina,
resent
it
to
you
today
that
has
the
letter
from
the
park
board
to
our
board.
C
As
well
as
the
presentation
that
they
have
made
for
this,
and
they
are
asking
for
our
board's
feedback
on
this
presentation
and
initiative
that
they're
doing,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
go
through
the
whole
presentation
in
our
meeting.
But
if
you
guys
are
able
to
look
it
over
and
supply
the
feedback
they
requested,
it
would
be
greatly
appreciated
as
another
board
to
assist
them
in
their
future.
D
So
maybe
we
should
just
file
it
that
you
received
it
filed
it
rather
than
go
completely
through
it,
because
I
think
it
may
take
a
while
to
do
that,
but
yeah
they're,
just
looking
for
feedback
from
other
boards
on
their
park
initiative
that
they're
doing.
D
I'm
assuming
all
of
the
advisory
boards,
but
it
it
mac,
does
work
pretty
closely
with
the
park
board
because
of
dog
parks.
So
I'm
sure
that
that
part
is
in
there
too,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
they're
reaching
out
to
you.
B
B
View
I'm
just
opening
up
their
letter
to
see
when
they
wanted
feedback
bye.
A
Oh
pick
me,
oh
I'm
not!
I
am
off
so
so,
but
I
was
just
going
to
say:
they've
got
a
mutual
community
virtual
open
house
hours
through
january.
Do
we
need
to
put
on
our
the
agenda
for
next
the
next,
our
next
meeting
to
review
and
get
back
to
them?
Or
do
we
need
the
oh?
It's
got
a
70-day
public
we
have
to
re,
looks
like
we
have
to
get
back
to
them
before
january.
A
D
C
G
C
Yeah
or
we
can
definitely
set
a
meeting
and
go
through
this
a
little
more
and
I
mean
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
if
we
all
went
through
it
separately.
You
know
to
get
an
idea
in
case
we
have
questions,
and
then
I
can
always
reach
out
to
park
board
and
get
answers
from
what
my
brief
view
of
it
was,
since
they
were
looking
for
board
members
feedback,
not
my
my
feedback
per
se.
C
It
seemed
like
they
were
just
looking
for
feedback
and
they
had
a
way
to
submit
that
and
it
to
me
it
didn't
necessarily
sound
like
it
had
to
be
from
the
board,
specifically
as
much
as
board
members
that
are
yeah
working
with
other
boards
to
do
feedback
and
in
most
cases
we're
one
of
the
few
that
doesn't
have
doesn't
have
to
be
a
resident,
but
that
kind
of
thing
but
yeah
you
guys,
can
let
me
let
me
know
after
viewing
it.
If
you
want
some.
B
Additional
yeah
and
this
it
seems
like
they
probably
have
you
know
a
lot
of
their
sourcing
feedback
from
a
lot
of
different
places,
and
so
I
think
it's
great
that
they
are
giving
us
this
opportunity.
But
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
something
that
we
all
need
to.
Necessarily
you
know,
publish
anything,
we're
not
giving
them.
A
D
D
They're
looking
for
people
who
are
representatives
of
the
community
in
which
they
serve,
you
are
or
whether
you
live
in
minneapolis
or
not
you're,
representing
the
the
animal
people
you
know
in
minneapolis
and
helping
with
the
shelter
and
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
I
think
it's
still
important.
You
know
whether
you
live
here
or
not
as
a
board
member.
If
you
can
provide
your
feedback,
I
think
they
would
greatly
appreciate
it
so
yeah.
B
B
I
don't
know
what
it
could
be
at
this
point,
but
it
just
seems
like
they've
done,
a
good
job
of
pulling
together
a
lot
of
community
ideas
on
how
to
serve
through
the
parks.
So.
C
I
definitely
think
there
is
room
for
some
potential
partnership
in
the
future
with
the
way
we
want
to
move
with
community
initiatives
and
parks.
Are
a
great
community
place
that
you
know
events
can
be
held
at
vaccine
clinics
different
things
like
that?
So
I
definitely
think
that
if
you
pick
things
up
while
you're
looking
through
this,
it
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
kind
of
go.
Oh
hey
they're
doing
this.
Let's
tie
it
in
with
now
what
we
want
to
move
to
do
so
definitely.
H
B
B
All
right,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
new
business
and
we
have
one
labeled
2021
mac
budget.
D
That
would
be
me.
I
want
to
just
give
you
an
update.
You
know
2021,
but
2020
budget
was
was
really
scary.
2021
budget
was
was
also
kind
of
scary,
and
that's
been
my
really
where
I've
been
mostly
focused,
since
kovit
honestly
is
trying
to
protect
the
staff
that
I
have
and
protect
the
budget
that
I
have
you
know,
often
in
times
of
crisis
like
this
cities
and
counties
and
governments
find
it
very
easy
to
take
money
from
the
animal
people
right.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
hard.
D
When
you
have
a
community
that
can
hardly
feed
itself
because
they're
out
of
work
and
they're
in
really
trying
times
to
go
well
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
you
know
give
three
million
dollars
to
mac,
so
they
can
keep
the
animal
shelter
running.
D
And
my
my
job
at
this
point
was
to
completely
focus
on
this,
so
that
I
made
sure
that
the
community
was
behind
us
and
that
our
city,
council,
members
and
our
mayor
and
the
people
who
were
really
holding
our
purse
strings
understood
the
importance
of
pets
and
why
and
what
pets
do
for
families
and
for
communities
and
why
we
are
important
enough
to
continue
to
fund.
D
As
you
know,
in
in
the
state
of
minnesota,
animal
control
is
not
mandated,
they
could
have
easily
shut
our
doors,
but
they
didn't
so
here's
the
good
news.
The
good
news
is
that
I
I
think
I
did.
Okay,
we
did
lose
temporarily
two
positions.
One
of
them
is
the
front
counter
position
when
lauren
parker
has
moved
to
back
to
indiana,
I
believe
is
that
she
left
her
position.
We
did
not
refill
that
position
and
connie
bork,
who
retired
right
before
covet
hit.
D
That
position
has
been
continuously
held
and
it
still
is
not
going
to
be
filled,
but
we
saved
all
the
other
positions.
So
that's
that's
huge
right
when
other
departments
were
losing
hundreds
of
positions,
mac
only
lost
positions
that
were
people
voluntarily
left.
So,
that's
that's
a
really
good
thing
and
we
did
manage.
We've
lost
some
money
about.
D
Six
percent
of
our
budget
was
was
taken
which
included
those
positions
and
and
some
money
here
and
there,
but
the
really
really
interesting
news-
and
I
and
I
want
to
talk
to
you
guys
tonight
about
a
program
that
we
coined
danny
you're
gonna
die.
When
you
hear
this,
I
was
looking
back
at
my
emails.
It's
been,
we
coined
the
name
right
before
covet
hit
was
when
I
started
sending
that
stuff
to
you,
but
max
been
doing
this.
We
we've
been
working
with
domestic
violence
cases
for
a
long
time.
D
D
Like
you
have
a
heart
attack
and
you
you
have
your
dogs
at
home,
and
the
ambulance
comes
to
take
you
to
the
hospital
and
there's
nobody
there
to
care
for
your
animals.
They
will
call
animal
control
and
we
pick
the
animals
up
and
put
them
in
protective
services.
We
don't
charge
for
those
those
services.
When
that
happens,
we
also
help
people
who
have,
I
can
think
of.
We
had
a
bunch
of
exotic
birds
a
couple
years
ago
where
the
there
was
a
house
fire
and
we
had
those
birds
for
a
long
time.
D
One
of
them
had
lung
damage
from
from
the
incident,
and
you
know
it
was
not
uncommon
to
see
nico
one
of
our
kennel
techs
running
up
and
down
the
hallway
with
this
bird
to
get
his
wings
slapping
was
kind
of
comical,
but
we
cared
for
those
for
a
couple
of
months
until
this
guy
could
find
proper
housing
for
himself
and
his
family
and
his
pets,
so
they
didn't
have
to
give
them
up.
D
D
That's
one
of
the
programs
that
we've
been
promoting
a
lot
with
city
council
and
as
we
move
from
we're,
still,
enforcement,
we're
still
protection,
animal
protection
and
control
and
the
field
is
still
doing
their
job
of
enforcing.
So
we
learned
in
april
when
our
bites
went
up,
160
percent,
that
when
we're
not
out
there
enforcing
our
leash
laws
and
things
like
that,
people
start
getting
seriously
hurt,
but
there's
another
side
to
animal
control.
I
think
that's
really
important.
D
That's
been
missed
for
a
really
long
time
and
that's
the
social
service
aspect
of
mac,
so
we
started
putting
it
in
in
writing
danny
and
I
this
has
been
a
real
focus
of
ours
all
summer
and
really
nailing
down
this
program.
We're
trying
to
we're
still
working
on
it
and
philip
cunningham
came
to
me
during
the
budget
markup
and
said
you
know.
D
I
really
want
to
help
you
with
your
domestic
violence
program,
because
that's
the
only
one
people
have
really
picked
up
on
and
I
promoted
this
other
program
to
him
and
we
renamed
it
the
animal
safety
net
program-
and
I
want
to
show
a
presentation
to
you
guys.
It's
really
quick
because
I
created
it
really
quick,
but
I
want
to
show
you
a
quick
presentation.
D
On
this
program,
so
that
you
kind
of
understand
what
we're
where
we're
going,
let
me
just
get
my
self
together
here
I
had
it
together
and
then
I
lost
it.
D
Yes?
Yes,
so
we
named
it
the
animal
safety
net
program
or
asn
for
short
and
what
it
is.
It
supports
families
in
need
with
emergency
sheltering
for
their
pets,
while
they
find
housing
to
get
away
from
users
and
undergo
emergency
medical
care
through
innovative
programs.
It
also
helps
keep
just
pets
and
families
together.
So
we
have
the
domestic
violence
program
that
falls
into
that.
The
emergency
sheltering
for
pets
whose
parents
experience
medical
emergencies,
which
we
talked
about
emergency
sheltering
for
unexpected
housing
displacement
due
to
disasters
such
as
fire,
weekly,
low
cost
vaccine
and
microchip
clinics.
D
But
we'll
start
back
up
here
shortly.
Probably
right,
annie
staff
have
cried
a
little
bit
over
that
because
it's
kept
them
busy,
foster
programs
for
extended
care
of
displaced,
owned
animals.
The
this
year
was
the
first
year
that
mac
has
ever
had
an
official
foster
program.
We're
still
flushing
that
out
a
little
bit,
but
we
have
had
animals
now
go
matter
of
fact.
I
have
two
dogs.
This
is:
is
the
male
dog
in
foster
care?
Is
he
still
at
the
shelter.
D
Well
same
thing,
so
we
have
two
dogs
that
are
in
foster
care
right
now
for
long
term,
they're,
his
their
owner
is
a
a
veteran
who
is
having
severe
medical
issues,
mental
health
issues,
and
I
think
physical,
too.
We
expect
to
actually
house
this
animal
these
animals
for
six
months.
D
So
that's
a
good
example:
critical
care
assistant
grant
based
funding
utilized
to
assist
low-income
individuals,
emergency
care
for
their
pets.
That's
another
part
of
the
program
that
we're
working
on
field
assistant
program,
a
resource
an
officer
can
use
to
utilize
in
the
field
for
instances
where
unintended
neglect
has
occurred
because
of
income
barriers
or
other
reasons,
but
for
which
the
animal
has
experienced
limited
suffering
and
the
issue
can
be
easily
remedied
through
humane
education
and
moderate
assistance.
Rather
than
direct
immediate
enforcement.
D
It
may
be
medical
advice
from
our
own
veterinarians
grooming
by
our
acts,
which
we've
done
quite
a
few
of
those
cases,
because
covet
people
couldn't
get
out
to
get
their
animals
groomed
and
it
was
getting
ugly
and
on
occasions,
medical
examinations,
prescriptions
for
medication.
We've
done
that
officers
may
also
make
referrals
to
other
programs
to
assist
the
owner.
In
finding
solutions
and
resolutions
to
issues,
so
it's
it's
bringing
the
field
into
it
as
well.
D
We're
super
excited
about
this
program
and
what
I
was
saying
earlier
is
it
started
unofficially,
in
the
division
it's
been
helping
the
community
for
years
we've
been
doing
this,
we've
never
charged
for
kennel
fees
minor.
D
I
would
imagine
we
I
know,
since
I've
been
here,
we've
done
some
major
medical,
this
dog,
that
one
of
the
dogs
that
we're
housing
right
now
was
pregnant,
really
pregnant
when
we
first
got
her
and
she
had
13
or
14
puppies
and
three
got
stuck
in
the
birth
canal
and
almost
killed
her
and
she
went
through
emergency
surgery
to
save
her
life
and
that
would
have
cost
him
four
or
five
thousand
dollars,
probably
in
the
real
world
and
mac,
did
it
so
and
saved
her
life,
and
this
dog's
been
with
this
guy
for
eight
years.
D
She
is
his
rock.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
cool
right,
what's
changed,
and
I
told
you
about
that
this
year,
thanks
the
efforts
of
city
council,
member,
philip
cunningham
and
lisa
goodman,
I
don't
know
if
I
mentioned
her
earlier,
they
partnered
together
and
mac
was
recognized
for
the
incredible
work
performed
by
by
the
division
through
unanimous
consensus.
The
city
council
voted
to
grant
280
000
to
max
budget
specifically
earmarked
to
promote,
develop
and
implement
the
asn
pilot
program,
thus
beginning
the
process
of
making
this
program
official.
D
D
So
what
transition
does
matt
need
to
make
to
ensure
the
success
of
the
program
we
need
to
further
develop
the
emergency
foster
program,
expand
our
community
outreach,
engage
neighborhood
associations
hire
one
to
two
positions
to
spearhead
this
program,
because
we
don't
we
we're
trying,
but
we
struggle
and
engage
the
board
to
embrace
the
program
and
help
us
make
it
a
success.
D
D
D
Oops
now
you're
catching
on
where
I
didn't
delete
stuff,
but
so
that
was
a
false,
that's
the
end
of
it,
but
I
wanted
to
just
share
that
with
you,
because
we're
super
super
excited
about
it
and
I
think
the
board
is
going
to
play
a
huge
role
in
this
matter.
Of
fact,
I
oh
are
those
the
puppies.
I
haven't
been
able
to
come
to
work
everybody's
quarantined
right
now:
oh
my
god,
they've
gotten
cute
and
of
the
14
or
13
only
three
survived.
D
D
And
the
agreement
was
he's
gonna,
let
us
have
the
puppies,
so
he
was
not
an
intentional
breeding
but
anyway,
since
she's
now
sterilized
because
you
know
mac
doesn't
just
do
c-sections,
we
take
everything
but
and
the
the
really
cool
thing
about
this
is
he
is
a
homeless
veteran
currently
homeless,
but
he's
been
known
in
the
va
for
a
really
long
time
and
they
know
him
with
this
dog
josie
and
the
va
is
working
to
get
him
permanent
housing.
So
I'm
s
and
his
dog.
D
So
I'm
super
super
excited
about
that
and
he's
a
really
nice
fella.
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
him,
you
know
it's
hippo
related,
but
I
he's
we've
talked
to
him
several
times
and
he's
really
sounds
fairly
lucid
to
us
and
really
just
very
concerned
about
his
dogs.
He
calls
check
in
all
the
time
and
just
a
really
nice
older
gentleman
so
and
these
dogs
were
really
super.
D
D
They're
pound.
They
look
like
they're
they're.
She
looks
like
a
black
and
tan
hound
and
he
we
think
daddy
is
the
little
doberman
mix
that
came
in
with
her.
D
D
Yeah
and
we
just
danny-
and
I
are
working
on
figuring
out
because
it
is
going
to
require-
I
mean
it-
allows
us
to
hire
a
position
for
that.
It
is
a
temporary
position,
maybe
two
to
help
us
really
do
more
community
outreach
and
spearhead
the
foster
per
things
that
danny's
been
trying
to
juggle
by
herself,
as
in
2021
camille,
our
our
supervisor
for
the
vet.
D
Sorry,
I
thought
a
dog
was
throwing
up.
It's
just
gracie
cleaning
herself
anyways,
our
supervisor
for
the
shelter
is
retiring
and
she's
not
going
to
be
replaced
danny,
and
I
probably
will
be
the
two
that
absorb
the
shelter
supervision
the
vet
position
may
be
replaced,
but
we're
I'm
just.
I
want
a
vet
to
do
that
work.
The
goal
is
eventually
we'll
have
a
shelter
supervisor,
but
really
danny
and
I've
been
running
that
all
summer
mostly,
and
we
realize
we
can
do
that.
D
C
A
C
C
On
top
of
the
few
volunteers
I
already
had
that
fostered,
but
our
goal
is
to
start
moving
more
animals
more
regularly
into
foster
as
just
a
general
practice,
as
well
as
like
the
dogs
that
we
have
now
and
other
safety
net
type
animals
that
are
typically
more
long-term
than
should
be
in
the
shelter
doing
that.
So
we've
got
a
the
application,
a
lot
of
it's
the
way
I've
been
doing
it
in
the
way
I'm
hoping
it'll
move
forward
again.
C
Once
I
get
more
help
on
that,
we'll
be
you
know,
reviewing
them
contacting
the
people
reaching
out.
It's
really
a
lot
of
it
is
conversation
based
for
me
of,
like
you
know
what
what
are
you
comfortable
with
here's?
What
I
have
here's,
what
you
said
you'd
be
willing
to
do,
but
is
that
really
feasible
in
your
home,
like
we
had
someone
really
interested
in
mama
and
babies
until
we
really
talked
to
them
about
what
that
was
all
going
to
entail,
it
sounded
great
to
have
puppies.
A
C
Then
they
were
like,
oh
okay-
I
don't
know
about
that
because
they
wanted
their
dog
to
play
with
it,
like
your
four-year-old
dog
can't
play
with
three-week
old
puppies.
That's
just
not
going
to
work.
You
know
like
this
is
the
thing
so
a
lot
of
it's
conversation
right
now.
We
do
not
background
check
our
fosters
beyond
what
we
do.
C
You
know
just
with
anybody,
but
not
like
we
do
with
the
volunteers
in-house,
so
I
mean
some
of
it's
full
being
flushed
out,
but
we
do
have
some
policy
procedure
in
general
kind
of
laid
out
to
start
with
and
then
a
lot
of
it,
I
think,
will
be
kind
of
adjusting
as
we
go.
Does
that
kind
of
answer
it
heather
and.
D
We've
reached
out
to
other
organizations
around
the
country
that
are
doing
similar
programs
already
and
to
kind
of
get
their
policies
and
procedures
around
the
stuff.
We
have
a
whole
ton
of
stuff
written.
D
I
could
some
of
it's
written
directly
from
you
know.
We
wrote
it
and
some
of
it
we
copied,
but
it's
it's.
I
think
we
got
a
pretty
good
handle
on
it
and-
and
you
know
for
me,
one
of
I've
learned
so
much
in
the
last
couple
of
years
about
like
weekend
getaways,
you
know,
take
me
home
for
the
holidays.
They
wouldn't.
Let
me
say
that
I
don't
know.
If
did
they
actually
finally
say
that
and
the
advertisement
for
this
thing,
this
adoption
danny
they
wouldn't.
I
wanted
to
advertisers,
take
me
home
for
the
holidays.
D
They
wouldn't.
Let
me
they
were
scared
of
blowback.
But
you
know
I
don't
it's,
okay,
that
an
animal
goes
home
for
a
couple
of
days
with
somebody
and
they
bring
them
back,
because
the
animal
has
an
opportunity
to
decompress
and
we
learn
more
about
the
animal
you
know
and
and
it's
okay
and
it.
E
E
D
Yeah,
it's
it's!
Okay
and
and
mac
didn't
always
feel
that
way.
You
know
it
wasn't
that
long
ago
that
if
you
brought
an
animal
back,
you
could
not
re-adopt
from
us.
You
know
staff
thought
it
was
just
horrific.
What
are
we
doing
to
the
animals?
You're
confused?
You
know,
and
that's
just
not
true,
so
you
know
we
we're
changing
we're
growing.
D
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
were
wrong
and
horrible
people
in
the
past.
It
just
means
that
you
know:
we've
learned
more
and
times
have
changed
and
we're
we're
trying
to
change
and
grow
with
those
changes
and
just
get
better
at
what
we
do
and
I
think
we're
doing
pretty
good.
F
I
do,
and
maybe
what
you
talked
about
with
the
shelter
manager
and
whatever
may
happen.
F
But
the
second
piece
of
that-
and
this
foster
program
may
make
this
a
moot
concern,
but
part
of
our
review
this
year
and
more
so
last
year.
One
concern
that
was
raised,
which
I
still
think
it's
a
significant
concern,
but
is
the
fact
that
essentially,
all
of
your
animal
enrichment
is
only
only
solely
on
the
volunteer
shoulders,
so
that
was
kind
of
another
need.
We
felt
like
so
out
of
just
a
concern
that
I
feel
like
that.
Focus
needs
to
be
there,
but
the
foster
program
may
make
that
move.
D
Yeah,
that's
that's
the
legitimate
concern,
but
that's
not
exactly
true
anymore
chris,
because
our
staff
have
direction
that
every
animal
gets
out
every
day,
so
staff
are
are
doing
a
lot
of
the
care
that
way
now
and
with
us
and
I'll,
tell
you
how
we're
able
to
do
that
because
the
reality
is
is
with
well.
We
got
four
or
five
kennel
techs
that
work
seven
days
a
week.
Our
capacity
is
way
below
what
the
shelter
capacity
actually
is
and
by
doing
manage
intake
where
we're,
rather
than
just
you
know,
somebody
says
hey.
D
D
D
And
it's
so
it's
lowering
the
intake
numbers,
which
is
giving
staff
more
time
rather
than
running
around
cleaning
constantly.
They
have
more
time
to
actually
spend
with
each
individual
animal
and
the
city's
recognizing
that
now,
as
far
as
hiring
two
people,
the
reality
is
is
the
280
thousand
dollars
was
earmarked
specifically
for
that.
D
I
can't
hire
a
kennel
tech
or
an
officer
in
that
position,
but
it
still
will
take
off
because
it
still
will
help
the
work
that
they're
doing
because
right
now,
the
animal
care
technicians
and
admin
people-
and
you
know
all
the
different
positions
that
I
have
they're
all
you
know
all
these
appointments
that
we're
making
and
all
these
adoptions
that
are
going
on
in
the
foster
program
and
the
difference
we're
absorbing
that
with
the
with
less
people.
So
I
think,
we'll
actually
be
in
better
shape.
F
So
a
follow-up
question:
maybe
it's
not
ready
for
prime
time
yet,
but
this
presentation,
if
and
whenever
it's
for
public
consumption,
is
it
something
that
can
be
shared
with
us
just
so
that
we
can
be
better
at
it
and
be
advocates
for
it.
D
C
I
do
think
that
we
will
get
even
more
time
to
focus
on
enrichment
in-house
and
our
staff
has
been
doing
a
good
job
of
coming
up
with
not
just
taking
them
out
which
not
was
not
used
to
be
an
expectation
that
they
it
was
that
was
solely
on
volunteers,
to
take
them
outside
the
dogs
outside
every
day,
and
you
know
doing
those
different
things.
C
You're
definitely
covet
has
given
us
a
chance
to
reevaluate
that,
and
because
we
went
to
so
low
numbers,
we
were
able
to
kind
of
change
how
we
were
doing
and
we
didn't
have
volunteers
for
a
while.
So
it
was
all
on
us
and
it
kind
of
made
us
go
well.
This
is
what
we
need
to
prioritize
and
do,
and
we
can
make
it
happen
if
we
do
these
things
and
whatever.
So
I
do
think
that
is
getting
better.
There's
still
definitely
work
to
be
done
for
sure.
D
C
In
midst,
we
have
to
connect
later.
D
Okay,
we'll
talk
off
record,
but
it's
it's
been
a
it's
been
a
challenge
because
it's
it's
it's
a
change
right,
but
but
it's
working
and
the
national
well
the
goal
that
I'm
learning
about
on
a
national
level.
When
we
talk
about
this,
this
animal
human
social
services
is
not
just
mac.
This
is
a
national
movement.
D
And
the
goal
is
that
80
to
90
percent
of
the
animals
that
come
into
the
sheltering
system
go
immediately
into
foster
homes
and
are
adopted
from
their
foster
home,
so
in
a
way
they're
kind
of
looking
at
a
sort
of
a
rescue,
they're
kind
of
combining
rescue
and
sheltering,
and
so
that
only
the
animals
that
really
desperately
need
medical
intervention
or
behavioral
intervention
are
in
the
shelter
being
cared
for
or
truly
vicious
or
dangerous.
That
kind
of
thing
megan
did
you
have
a
question.
E
I
don't
have
a
question.
I
was
going
to
say
speaking
from
a
volunteer
perspective
and
what
I've
seen
from
the
shelter
over
the
last
nine
months
and
the
changes
that
have
occurred.
I've
definitely
seen
a
lot
more
as
danny
and
caroline
mentioned,
just
involvement
from
staff
and
kind
of
the
day-to-day
enrichment
kind
of
thing.
E
So
I
know
like
one
kennel
tech
has
been
very
active
about
trying
to
teach
dogs
four
on
the
floor,
get
you
what
you
want
so,
instead
of
jumping
around
like
a
hot
mess
in
their
kennel,
they
learn
that
when
they're
calm-
and
they
have
four
paws
on
the
floor,
then
they
get
what
they
want,
which
is
a
treat
or
attention
or
whatever,
and
I
had
never
heard
anybody
say
anything
about
that
in
the
years
prior.
E
So
I
think
there's
definitely
been
more
attention
to
behavioral
or
behavior
and
enrichment
because,
as
I
said,
I'm
also
seeing
techs
out
in
the
runs
all
the
time
with
dogs,
which
is
great
to
your
point,
though
chris
I
think
pipe
dreams
like
someday.
It
would
still
be
awesome
to
get
an
enrichment
coordinator,
who
is
literally
doing
play
groups
all
day,
or
you
know
oh
yeah
training
cats
to
reach
out
of
their
bars
of
their
kennel,
so
they
look
cute
or
all
that
crap
that
we
see
on
youtube
like.
E
D
More
than
capacity
it's
buy-in
right,
we're
not
just
a
a
punitive
organization
anymore,
and
it's
it's
not
always
been
easy.
You
know
we
we've
got
a
field,
that's
more
enforcement
right
minded,
and
now
I
have
a
shelter
that
their
job
is
to
save
lives.
That's
their
primary
mission
is
to
save
lives,
and
our
goal
is
that
you
know
100.
We
don't
always
we
never
meet
this
actually,
because
there
are
some
that
we
just
have
to
do.
Do
what
we
have
to
do.
D
But
you
know
our
goal
is
that
every
single
animal
that
comes
in
the
shelter
is
rehabilitated
in
a
new
home
is
found
for
them
if
needed,
and
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
euthanizing
animals
that
need
to
be
humanely
euthanized
or
have
significant
behavioral
issues
that
just
are
not
are
too
dangerous,
but
I
mean
we've
had
dogs
that
a
year
ago,
had
they
come
into.
Our
shelter
would
have
died
in
that
shelter
because
they
just
wouldn't
have
passed
a
behavior
test
and
they're
turning
them
around.
D
I
know
megan
megan
has
helped
with
several
and
helped
blow
even
our
minds,
some
of
them.
So
it's
been.
It's
been
really
rewarding
and
staff
are
are
really
completely
buying
into
it,
but
it's
still
challenging.
You
know
it's
it's
hard,
sometimes
to
put
the
two
together,
but
I
think
we're
we're
doing
that.
It's
getting
more
and
more
successful,
recognizing
that
there's
two
different
missions
and
the
animal
safety
net
program
brings
the
field
into
this.
It's
not
just
the
shelter
doing
it
anymore.
It's
the
field
and
officers
have
brought
you
know
one.
D
She
couldn't
get
out
of
the
house
to
get
the
dog
to
the
groomer
and
there
wasn't
a
groomer
open
because
of
covid
and
the
dog
was
just
nasty
and
she
contacted
us
when
we
first
started
this
unofficially
and
said:
can
we
help
and
I'm
like
yeah
bring
him
in,
and
so
we
I
mean
he
got.
You
got
a
medical
exam
right,
and
this
is
the
one
that
I
think
made
us
decide.
D
We
need
to
start
doing
rabies
too
and
other
vaccines,
because
we
realized
nobody
could
get
into
the
vet
either
and
that
we
have
some
people
that
have
do
grooming
their
groomers
as
well,
and
the
dog
was
groomed
and
they
I
mean
she
went
home
with
groomed
in
all
her
vaccines
and
up
to
date
and
a
sweater
I
think,
but
it
was
really
cute
and
in
it
and
she
wasn't,
it
was
neglect
because
of
the
condition
the
dog
was
in,
but
it
wasn't
neglect
because
she
wanted
to
neglect
the
dog.
D
D
You
know
and
wanted
to
stay
with
their
pets,
but
they
couldn't
get
an
appointment
for
eight
months
with
their
vet
so
max
stepped
in,
and
I
think
that's
the
important
role
that
that
shelter
and
our
staff
can
play
in
the
community
is
stepping
in
and
really
helping
ensure
that
the
resources
are
there
for
those
who
need
it.
No
matter
what
your
status
is,
whether
you're
rich
poor,
it
doesn't
matter
we're
doing
it
for
the
animals
and
we're
doing
it
for
society
to
help
keep
everybody
safe.
D
B
Is
that
the
primary
way
that
the
community
is
able
to
tap
into
this
asn
is
through
the
field
like.
C
C
F
C
Word
out:
how
do
we
keep
it
funded?
How
do
we,
you
know
continue
it
so
that
other
agencies
that
may
be
in
touch
with
these
people?
Just
like
a
human,
you
know
social
services
or
the
domestic
violence.
You
know,
folks
that
are
at
shelters
or
whatever
the
homeless,
shelter
whatever
it
might
be,
can
know
to
come
to
us,
but
also
we
want
our
field
staff
to
grasp
it
and
own
it
and
go
okay,
I'm
getting
called
out
to
a
surrender,
you
know
and
why
you
need
food
this
month.
C
We
will
give
you
food,
keep
your
pet,
please!
You
know
you
love
it.
It
loves
you
you're
caring
for
it.
Otherwise,
whatever
same
with,
like
caroline
mentioned,
when
it's
a
matter
of,
maybe
they
need
to
be
educated
or
they
they
can't
they're
trying,
but
they
can't
do
it
for
whatever
reason,
how
can
we
step
in
and
assist
them,
so
we
aren't
citing
them
when
they
can't
afford
a
citation
and
never
going
to
pay
it
and
you
know
or
taking
their
dog
or
whatever
the
case
might
be.
C
If
it's
something
that
can
be
rectified,
you
know
and
reasonable
versus
true
neglect
that
we
do
need
to
step
in
and
you
know
remove
them,
so
it
should.
We
really
want
it
to
come
from
everywhere.
We
want
it
to
be
field,
we
want
it
to
be
the
community,
we
want
it
to
be
other
places,
bringing
people
to
us
that
need
that,
so
we
can
facilitate
or
help
get
them
the
resources
they
need.
D
And
let
me
give
you
an
example:
there
I
mean
this.
The
possibilities
are
really
endless.
I
mean
I've
already
reached
out
a
year
ago
to
some
community
group.
Some,
like
neighborhood
group
organizations,
say
you
have
someone
who
just
needs
their
fence
fixed,
but
they
can't
afford
to
fix
their
fence
and
their
dog
keeps
getting
out
and
we
keep
going
out
there
and
we
keep
writing
them
tickets,
for
you
know
leashing
violations
that
they
can't
afford
to
pay.
D
And
if
you
owe
mac
money,
you
can't
own
a
dog
in
the
city
right,
so
animals
get
seized
because
of
this
stuff
and
and
it's
a
pain
who
wants
to
we,
we
have
other
things
to
do
as
well.
I
don't
want
to
keep
going
out
inciting
someone
because
their
dog's
running
loose
their
friendly
dog.
That's
not
really
bothering
anybody,
but
the
neighbor
doesn't
like
the
dog
in
his
yard.
D
So
one
of
the
ideas
of
this
program
eventually
is
to
to
be
able
to
work
directly
with
community
groups
where
they
can
go
out
and
help
the
person
fix
their
fence,
not
mac,
but
the
community.
Hey
we've
got
this
issue,
you
know,
and
these
are
nice
people,
otherwise
they're
taking
good
care
of
their
pet,
but
he
keeps
getting
out
because
it
has
rotten
wood
or
it
needs
he's
digging
out
and
it
needs
x,
y
and
z.
Just
to
stop
that
I
mean
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
here.
D
B
Cool
awesome,
well,
yeah.
I
could
definitely
think
that
this
has
a
whole
lot
of
benefits.
I'm
very
excited
to
hear
more,
as
you
figure
some
of
that
out,
and
I
think
it
goes
without
saying,
but
let
us
know
the
board
know
what
we
can
do
to
help
support
it,
or
you
know
you
know
help
in
any
way.
So.
B
The
next
agenda
item
is
max
data
from
september
to
november,
and
I
see
that
you've
included
a
link
to
the
pdf
here,
but
does
anybody
danny?
Are
you
gonna,
walk
us
through
this.
C
Yeah
for
sure
ken
go
through
just.
I
know
that
they
wanted
a
standing
agenda
item
for
our
numbers,
which
is
our.
C
C
Yeah,
I
just
realized
that
all
right-
let's
try
it
again
did-
was
I
on
mute.
The
whole
time
that
I
was
okay,
all
right,
so
standing
agenda
item
that
was
requested
was
our
numbers.
Obviously
one
of
our
biggest
requests
for
from
the
public
as
well
as
interest
of
most
people
is,
you
know
where
are
we
at?
C
I
did
calculate
our
live
release
rates
so,
looking
at
september
of
this
year,
dogs
was
a
93.5
percent,
live
release
rate
cats
was
an
87
percent,
live
release
rate
for
an
overall
or
just
combined
of
89.6,
so
close
to
90,
not
quite
90.
october
dogs
was
83
percent
cats
was
88,
so
overall
was
86
and
then
november
dogs
were
90.5
percent
cats
were
88.8
for
an
overall
of
89.7
percent,
so
we're
hovering
real
close
to
the
90,
not
quite
90
on.
All
of
them
can.
D
C
Yep,
so
I
do
go
through
and
look
at.
You
know
what
are
the.
Why
were
we
euthanizing
this
month?
You
know
what
were
the
reasons?
What
were
the
was
it
val?
You
know
not
not
that
it
wasn't
valid,
but
making
sure
that
we
can
really
relate
to
the
general
public
or
anybody.
Why
did
we
make
the
decision
we
made
on
those
animals?
And
I
know
so
for
september
it
looks
like
we
had
a
good
chunk
of
cat
euthanasias
and
looking
back,
if
I
remember
correctly,
it
was
a
lot
of
them.
C
We
were
still
seeing
a
lot
of
like
injured
stray
cats.
We've
been
seeing
that
a
lot
this
summer
and
most
the
time
we
have
a
such
a
higher
intake
number
for
cats
and
things
that
kind
of
buffers
that
that
we,
because
we
aren't
doing
as
much
intake,
it's
definitely
being
a
bigger
toll
on
our
overall
numbers
when
you
play
the
numbers
game.
C
That
way-
and
I
know
in
october
because
that's
when
mama
came
in
and
we
had
all
those
babies
and
since
some
of
them
did
not
make
it
that
also
goes
against
our
live
release
rate.
We
had
a
kitten
that
passed
last
month
as
well
or
in
october.
Excuse
me
as
well
as
three
puppies
in
october,
because
right
at
the
end
of
the
month,
so
that
also
greatly
affected
our
live
release
rates
on
those
months
and
then
november.
C
I
know
we
had
a
couple
owner
requested
euthanasias,
which
has
also
been
a
big
factor
in
live
release
rates
for
us
going
down,
even
when
we
had
more
than
one
in
some
months
before
again,
with
higher
intake.
We
didn't
have
as
much
of
an
impact
on
our
percentage,
but
now
that
we
are
again
a
much
lower
intake
numbers,
one
or
two
a
month
is
really
causing
our
90
to
go
down
or
go
below
the
90
percent
where
we
want
to
be.
C
But
again,
we
definitely
feel
that
we
are
putting
out
all
the
appropriate
animals
and
only
euthanizing
for
the
reasons
that
we
feel
are
valid
reasons.
Yeah.
D
And
I
this
is
the
national
trend,
so
they're
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
we're
keeping
a
lot
of
animals
out
of
the
shelter
now,
and
I
consider
that
a
live
release
rate
as
well
right,
that's
part
of
it
and
there
we're
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
track
that
and
we're
we're
still
engaging
with
finding
rover,
which
I
think
has
somehow
gotten
stuck
on
a
back
burner
somewhere.
I
need
this
just
reminded
me.
D
I
need
to
get
on
them
and
danny's
still
working
with
chameleon
trying
to
get
our
lost
and
found
stuff
updated
so
that
people
can
put.
Those
you
know
like
find
find
to
foster
care
is
one
that
we're
working
on
where
you
find
the
animal
and
you're
willing
to
hold
on
to
it.
For
the
five
days
to
see.
If
an
owner
comes
forward,
we
will
advertise
it
on
our
website,
take
care
of
any
medical
emergencies
or
issues
like
that.
D
But
at
the
end
of
the
five
days
you
can
either
adopt
the
animal
and
we'll
sterilize
him
or
you
can
bring
him
back
to
the
shelter
and
we'll
sterilize
him
in
the
dog
other
than
rather
or
the
cat,
rather
than
you
know,
having
to
sit
on
our
floor
for
ten
days
or,
however
long
before
we
can
get
it
available
for
adoption.
D
It
can
now
be
immediately
put
up
on
the
adoption
floor,
which
will
limit
time
in
the
shelter,
so
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
so
that
we
can
manage
our
intake
still
focus
on
the
animals
that
really
need
us
and
also
keep
track
of
the
ones
that
we
don't.
We
keep
out
of
the
facility
because
of
manage
intake,
because
that's
really
part
of
your
live
release
now
and
it's
a
problem
all
over
the
country.
D
D
C
Can't
remember
which
month
we
have
the
cat
with
tularemia,
and
we
that
was
a
big
that
was.
C
That
was
a
crazy
month
that
a
bunch
of
staff
were
exposed
to.
It
is
a
zoonotic
disease
that
a
bunch
of
us
had
to
take
our
temp
every
day
for
three
weeks
to
make
sure
we
weren't
possibly
infected,
and
we
had
a
housemate
that
was
recommended
to
also
be
euthanizing.
So
that's
two
cats
out
of,
however
many
I
can't
remember,
which
month
it
was.
I
think
it
was
either
october
or
november
yeah.
D
Danny
we
were
dealing
with
covid,
we
had
staff
members
with
covert,
then
we
ended
up
getting
a
ton
of
staff
that
were
exposed
to
this.
This
disease
can
be
weaponized,
so
homeland
security
got
involved
and
they
were
exposed
to
this
cat
and
because
we
have
wonderful
veterinarians,
they
they
recognized
it
and-
and
we
sent
it
for
testing
and
sure
as
hell
it
was,
it
was
totally
miriam.
Can
you
pronounce
it
this
stuff
came
in,
you
can
kill
you
it's
rabbit.
D
Fever
is
what
we
call
it
down
the
south,
and
I
mean
it's
ugly
and
in
so
many
ways
so
anyways
luckily
knew
we
were
all
using
our
ppe.
Nobody
got
sick
from
it,
but
they
were
all.
Basically
they
could
work,
but
they,
you
know,
had
to
do
all
this
stuff
to
work
and
and
everybody
was
scared
and
then
I
walk
in
and
I
walked
past
the
bird
room
one
day
and
they
were
it
said
something
about
tuberculosis
and
I'm
like
jesus
just
what
we
need
this
month.
D
So
avian
tuberculosis
in
that
room
was
in
isolation.
So
we've
we've
had
our
I
mean,
but
that's
what
we're
here
for
right.
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
kind
of
neat
in
a
way,
because
that
is
the
purpose
of
animal
control
and
animal
sheltering
in
animal
control.
World
is
to
to
deal
with
this
stuff
and
and
because
we're
managing
our
intake.
We
have
the
capacity
to
do
it.
D
C
Which
month
that
was
it
was
this
past
year
and
from
december
1
to
yesterday,
we're
at
91
overall.
C
That
apparently
means
they
were
lost,
so
stole
it.
And
yes,
it
does
oh
so
stolen,
or
in
this
case
this
was
it
got
away
from
the
acl
after
being
impounded.
C
E
D
We
had
a
chihuahua
that
escaped
out
of
a
the
whole.
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
seen
the
inside
of
a
truck
but
there's
a
inside
door
and
and
there's
a
little
hole.
So
when
they
have
a
vicious
dog,
they
can
stick
a
catch
pole
in
there
and
put
it
on
and
before
they
open
the
door
and
a
little
chihuahua
managed
to
get
through
that
little
hole
and
escape
through
out
of
the
garage
through
our
gate
and
we
caught
him
in
boone
island.
D
Do
you
remember
that
danny
I
mean
that
was?
It
was
crazy.
It
was
a
foot
chase.
So
that's
doesn't
happen
often,
but
when
it
does,
it's
usually
quite
exciting.
C
C
B
D
So
we
wanted
to,
we
have,
I
think,
there's
maybe
four,
maybe
five
applications
right
now.
We
wanted
to
know
if
the
board
wanted
to
be
part
of
that
process.
I
think
was
the
question
that
we
had
this.
D
This
has
been
such
a
wonderful
board.
You
guys
work
so
well
together.
I
want
to
keep
that
that
momentum,
because,
whether
you
know
it
or
not-
and
I
know
we
didn't
feel
like
we
finished
it
and
we
still
have
like
we
were
calling
best
friends
in
and
that
got
canceled
because
of
covid
and
stuff
to
come
and
do
the
the
shelter
review.
D
The
work
that
you
did
has
made
such
an
impact
on
this
department
and
has
truly
changed
it,
and
it's
probably
been
one
of
the
most
impactful
boards
that
I've
ever
had
the
privilege
to
work
with.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
synergy
symmetry
I
don't
know
anyways.
I
want
to
keep
it
going
and
I
and
I
I
wanted
to
know
if
the
board
wanted
to
be
part
of
that
process
and
if
so,
we
will
move
forward
with
it.
D
I
would
love
for
you
to
be.
That's
yes,
it'd
be
helpful,
I
can
do
it
chris,
but
I
I
I
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
I
mean,
but
I
think
I
just
think
that
you
should
have
a
voice
and-
and
you
know-
and
I
have
a
feeling
we
may
end
up
with
some
more
as
well.
C
Yeah,
I
think
we've
got
the
three
positions
that
are
open,
have
been
posted
and
then
we
have
it.
Like
caroline
said,
I
think
about
five-ish
applications
that
have
come
through,
and
I
know
I
for
sure
at
least
three
of
them
I
thought
were
very
good.
I
can't
remember
there
too,
they
were
a
little
earlier
in
so
I
haven't
looked
at
them
as
recently,
but
we
can
work
on
getting
that
information
to
you
guys
and
how
we
want
to
proceed
with
that.
C
But
we
really
think
it's
great
that
you'd
be
willing
to
help
us
with
that
something
definitely
helpful
and
then
the
other
portion
I
just
wanted
to
throw
in
is
like
we
had
said
before.
C
We
can't
stagger
our
terms
the
way
we
thought
we
could
possibly,
but
I
am
looking
I've
not
heard
back
yet
from
downtown
about
whether,
because
these
people
would
be
coming
in
potentially
like
almost
done
with
the
end
of
this
term,
if
it's
by
the
years
that
you
guys
are
going
because
your
your
guys's
terms
will
technically
be
up
in
june
june
september,
one
of
the
two
that
you
know
if
we,
if
they
start
that's
like
okay,
three
four
months
or
whatever,
and
then
now
you
have
to
reapply
so
we're
trying
to
find
out
if
it's
gonna
be
two
years
from
when
you
start
so
that
would
stagger
people
by
default.
C
D
So
yeah
we
just
yes
chris
and
to
everybody
I
I
want
you
know
we
we
held
off
when
the
one
position
became
vacant,
because
we
were
in
the
middle
of
this
review
and
it
was
going
so
well
with
the
teams
that
you
had
that
I
didn't
want
to
disrupt
that
with
a
new
person
coming
in
and
now
I
think
you
know
we're
I,
with
the
new
vaccine,
that's
come
out
and
stuff,
I
think
2021
2022
is
going
to
be
a
totally
different
situation
than
what
we
suffered
through
all
through
2020.
D
Kids
never
grow
up
anyways,
so
he
I
think
he
was
going
to
throw
water
on
me,
which
would
not
have
gone
over
well
so
anyways.
Where
was
I
so
they
they?
I
think
we're
gonna
gear
back
up
and
and
I'd
like
to
engage
the
board
more
and
be
to
have
you
be
not
just
doing
a
review
of
the
shelter
but
be
more
part
of
it
right
more
part
of
the
process.
I'm
not
sure
how
that
what
that
looks
like.
D
I
think
that's
for
you
guys
to
help
answer,
but
to
be
part
of
the
process
to
help
us
find
the
solutions.
Does
anybody
know
how
to
get
rid
of
this
little
bottom
screen
that
comes
up
when
you
have
power
points?
D
D
C
Yeah,
I
think
we
can
probably
forward
applications,
so
you
guys
can
review
them
and
then
I
think
we
could
probably
reach
out
to
applicants,
and
I
mean
we
could.
Obviously
I
think
we
could
obviously
do
some
sort
of
like
teams
or
skype
or
whatever
type
interview,
but
if
you
guys
want
to
come
up
with,
you
know,
questions
or
you
know
things
like
that-
that
we
want
to
ask
to
help
us
pare
down
to
three
folks
or
unless
we
find
three
really
like
and
just
want
to
chat
with
them
whatever.
C
B
That
sounds
good
yeah.
I
think
that
we
could
make
that
a
agenda
item
for
the
next
meeting
and
then
following
that
as
well.
If
did
we
miss
a
are
considering
like
the
roles
on
the
board?
Did
we
miss
a
cycle
or
it's?
I
can't
really
remember.
If
2020,
maybe
we
didn't
miss
one,
it
just
seems
like
this
year
has
been
really
long.
C
B
B
Okay,
so
that's
good,
we
haven't
missed
one,
but
I
do
think
it's
always
good
to
rotate
those
roles,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
can
maybe
put
on.
If
not
that
that
next
meeting
as
well,
I
guess
maybe
the
timing
would
be
then
the
one
after
that
sounds
like.
B
Okay,
great
so
then
yeah.
I
think
it's
just
good
for
people
to
start
thinking
about
that
as
well.
It
did
you
know
when
we
consider
yeah.
What
kind
of
you
know
new
and
new
board
members
there
are,
and
their
talents
and
skills
can
also
consider.
B
You
know
all
of
the
roles
that
we
are
playing
on
this
board
now
so
and
then
the
next
item,
a
future
program
planning,
is
that.
C
That's
basically
a
repeat
of
what
we
talked
about
with
budget
honestly,
the
animal
safety
net
was
really
what
that
was
for,
but
I
kind
of
we
tied
it
in
with
budget
so.
D
Now,
one
of
the
things
that
I
may
reach
out
to
the
board-
and
it
could
be
individuals
on
the
board
that
that
may
have
you
know
more
knowledge
of
this,
but
I
do
want
to
look
into
like
foster
foster
parents.
I
don't
know
what
am
I
looking
for
backgrounds?
How
are
we
checking
them
and
that
kind
of
stuff
and
policies
surrounding
that?
And
what
best
practices
are,
because
this
is
a
new.
Some
of
this
is
new
to
me.
D
Anyways,
and
I
think
today
and
danny's
got
a
little
bit
more
experience,
but
it's
I
don't
know
if
she's
spearheaded
it
directly
herself
before
so
so
it's
new
to
us
and
we
want
late.
D
So
we
want
to
reach
out
to
you
guys,
because
this
is
really
what
the
board
was
about-
was
helping
us,
develop
those
policies
and
procedures
around
those
types
of
programs,
and
that
has
to
do
with
our
shelter
so
that
we
can
better
serve
not
just
our
community,
but
the
animals
too,
because,
god
forbid,
that's
one
of
my
biggest
fears
is
putting
an
animal
in
a
bad
situation,
whether
it
be
with
foster
parents
or
even
rescues,
because
I've
lived
through
that
back
in
the
day.
D
And
I
don't
it
wasn't
fun
and
I
lived
with
guilt
forever
for
that,
and
I
don't
really
want
to
relive
that.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
you
know,
helping
us
move
forward
with
this
animal
safety
net
program
and
other
programs
that
we
implement
in
the
shelter
to
better
the
lives
of
the
animals
that
we're
serving
in
our
community.
D
B
That
is
all
we
have
on
our
agenda
I'll
ask
if
there's
any
other
matters
that
we
want
to
bring
up
in
this
meeting.
D
E
A
I
I
guess
I
I
think
that
the
the
the
asn
is
something
that
I
think
that
we
is
something
that
we
should
work
on
with
you
and
is
someplace,
where
we
could
be
beneficial
yeah.
G
Yeah,
I
completely
agree
with
heather
the
other
thing:
I'd
love
to
work
on
a
little
bit
more
is
the
community
outreach
and
awareness
of
mac
and
how
that
can
play
into
the
minneapolis
area
in
particular,
and
just
the
education
around
that.
I
know
that
the
page
that
megan
runs
does
an
amazing
job,
getting
some
really
great
communications
out
there,
but
I'd
love
for
something
to
go
out
that
we
can
work
on.
That
is
more
official
from
mac
in
some
capacity.
G
E
And
also
coming
from
the
viewpoint
of
a
friends
of
mac
admin,
we
have
so
many
people
that
think
we
are
the
shelter
and
so
we're
constantly
telling
them
that
we're
not.
I
would
love
to
have
a
social
media
page
or
a
presence
that
we
could
push
them
to.
I
mean
right
now
we'll
push
them
to
the
website
and
say
please
reach
out
to
mac
staff,
but
we're
also
then
flooding
the
phone
lines
and
whatever
whatever.
E
E
D
They're
doing
the
best
they
can
for
trying
to
hire
more
as
well
and
yeah.
311
has
been
overwhelmed
with
calls
yep,
so
they're
they're
trying,
but
it's
it
just-
is
what
it
is
right
now,
but
that's
something:
maybe
we
can
work
on
volunteers
help
them
or
you
know,
there's
lots
of
different
ways
to
solve
that
problem
for
mac
and.
C
C
It
is
something
we
will
need
to
work
with
city
communications,
that's
always
kind
of
been
one
of
our
biggest
barriers
for
social
media
and
any
type
of
thing
like
that,
but
I
do
know
that
they
were
interested
and
willing
to
have
a
meeting
which
obviously
virtual's
the
best
way
to
go
in
regards
to
this
the
whole
thing
of
mac
having
its
own
social
media
president's
president's
presence.
How
can
we
facilitate
that?
You
know.
C
Volunteers
are
now
kind
of
included
in
the
social
media
policy,
so
there's
there's
some
good
and
some
bad
with
that.
I
guess
from
what
I
understand
after
meeting
with
some
of
the
communication
folks
about
this
last
year
or
probably
2019.
Now
I
don't
remember,
but
so
definitely,
if
that's
something
you
guys
are
interested
in,
we
definitely.
D
Want
to
talk
to
them
and
we
can
revisit
it
because
I
think
they
revamped
that
policy
and
recently
yeah
and
as
and
some
other
issues
with
city
council,
but
mack
was
a
big
reason.
Why,
and
so
I
think
it's
probably
not
a
bad
time
to
revisit
that,
and
this
is
an
opportunity.
You
know
we
have
this
pilot
program
that
money
was
put
aside
specifically
to
fund
and
in
that
we
specifically
intended
to
hire
at
least
one
person
to
help
that
that
person
could
be
the
person
that
runs
that
page
for
us
too.
D
C
Oh
gracie
girl,
chris,
you
had
a
question
rescue
related
question.
F
I
do-
and
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time
on
this,
because
it's
probably
everybody,
but
I
have
a
question
about
vetting
at
mac
and
I
believe
it
could
be
wrong,
but
you
guys
are
able
to
do
dentals
now,
right,
probably
not
major
dentals,
but
certain
things
you
can
do.
F
So
I
just
want
to
bring
it
up
so
cat
dentals
are
a
significant
cost
to
the
rescues
and
it
prohibits
us
sometimes
from
pulling
cats.
I've
had
three
instances
lately
where
there
has
been
noted,
like
fractures
of
the
canine
tooth,
but
nothing's
been
done
about
it
and
those
typically
usually
have
to
always
come
out.
So
that's
been
kind
of
a
surprise
after
the
fact,
so
I
just
wanted
to
call
it
out
and
kind
of
make
you
guys
aware
that
I
lob
before,
if
there's
a
fractured
tooth,
you
should
take
it
out.
D
And
the
reason
sometimes
the
reason
they're
not
taking
it
out
is
the
vet
feels
like
that
it
they
may
break
the
jaw
and
we
don't
have
an
ability
to
care
for
the
job.
We
can't
fix
that
so
without
this
is
what
she's
telling
me
and
trust
me.
We
have
major
talks
about
this,
but
without
an
actual
physical
x-ray,
a
big
x-ray.
D
You
know
the
head,
not
just
a
our
little
dental
x-ray,
that
we
have
she's
not
willing
to
take
the
chance,
so
it
becomes
an
ethics
issue
for
the
vet
because
we
can't
perform
the
aftercare.
So
I
I
don't
you
know
for
those
vets
on
here.
You
can
argue
with
me
privately,
but
I
I
that's
that's
been.
I
know
there
was
one
that
I
really
wanted
to
do,
and
that
was
I
know.
That
was
why
yeah.
B
D
D
To
plate
or
do
it,
you
know
what
I
mean
so
we're
just
not
there
yet.
H
D
H
D
So
mary's.
F
D
C
I
do
want
to
ask
chris
other
than
obviously
us
doing
it,
which
would
be
the
preference
if
we
can.
I
assume
there's
obviously
reasons
in
these
ones
that
we
couldn't,
but
was
it
were
you
like?
Was
there
other
reasons
they
were
like
rescue
only,
and
it
wasn't
like
notated
to
you
as
well?
Is
that
part
of.
F
No,
I
think
I
think,
here's
what
the
situation
was.
So
there
have
been
three
instances,
one
the
cat
had
the
absorptive
lesions
or
whatever
florals
or,
and
so
that
was
noted
because
it
was
rescue
only
there
were
two
others
that
one
I
one
I
have
right
here
now.
I
can't
find
it
everest
was
his
name
he's
a
big
great
guy,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
both
of
those
were
on
the
adoption
floor,
but
had
set
for
a
long
period
of
time.
F
Everest
was
there
for
over
two
weeks,
and
actually
maybe
it
was
because
of
the
crap
too.
So
when
we
tag
those
because
they're
not
rescue,
only
it's
not
in
the
email.
So
we
don't
know
about
that,
and
I
don't
know
about
until
I
go
pick
them
up,
I'm
not
about
to
back
out
after
that,
but
so
both
of
the
two
were
noted
to
have
broken
canines
or
fracture
canines,
and
our
vet's
telling
me
like
one
once
she
x-rayed
it
did
have
a
pretty
bad
infection,
the
other
one
I'm
like
just
take
it
out.
F
So
we're
going
to
go
to
that
expense
anyway.
But
it's
just
it's:
just
a
dentals
are
a
huge
cost
to
us
that
really
prohibit
us,
especially
whenever
it's
so
many
cats
need
dentals,
that
it
sometimes
becomes
prohibitive
for
us
to
just
pull
cats.
So
so
anyway,
we
can
talk
about
it
later.
I'm
not
complaining
about
it.
I'm
just
advocating
for
if
it's
possible
to
pull
a
tooth
rather
than
saying
there's
a
fractured
tooth.
He
may
need
a
dental
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Let's
just
assume
he's
good.
He
needs
a
dental
now.
D
Some
some
do
sometimes
we
do
pull
the
teeth.
I
mean
it
really
just
depends.
I
think,
but
am
I
wrong
danny
she's,
giving
me
the
stink
eye
over
somebody.
C
I
mean,
I
know
we're
down
one,
and
one
was
the
one
that
we
lost
was
much
more
comfortable
with
dentals
and
those
types
of
procedures
than
what
we
have
currently,
but
we
definitely
yeah
because
I'm
guessing
chris,
I
know
like
when
we've
been
calling
people
or
talking
to
people
about
adoptive
animals
right
now,
like
yeah
they're,
getting
that
info
and
some
are
probably
passing
you
know
on
them
because
of
that,
but
yeah
when
it
comes
you're
exactly
right
when
it
comes
to
a
situation
like
you,
where
you're
just
taking
adoption
they're,
not
even
thinking
about
they're,
taking
them
and
printing
paperwork,
and
going
here
you
go,
have
a
nice
day.
C
F
D
Yeah
chris
call
me
anytime,
we
can
find
out.
I
mean
that's
no
big
deal
we'll
find
out,
because
I
really
want
all
as
much
of
the
medical
as
we
can
get
done
at
mac
to
be
done
because
I
feel
like
that's
part
of
our
partnership
right
is-
is
making
sure
that
we,
you
know
you're
taking
the
really
bad
ones,
sometimes
that
we
can't
deal
with,
but
I
should
try
to
get
the
moderate
stuff
handled,
so
you
don't
have
to
to
save
you
money.
So
I
think
it's
just
a
give
and
take.
D
I
do
want
to
give
you
a
status
update,
real
quick
of
where
we
are
with
our
staffing.
So
mac
has
you
know
one
vet,
that's
gone.
We
have
one
a
half
part-time,
kennel
tech,
that's
also
gone
they've
left
together
and
we've
put
in.
We
have
to
put
in
a
hiring
waiver
every
time
and
we're
waiting
on
those
hiring
waivers.
We
have
one
officer
position,
that's
where
we're
waiting
on
a
hiring
waiver,
for
we
have
one
kennel
tech,
that's
pregnant
and
two
officers
that
pregnant
danny.
D
You
don't
know
about
one
of
them
so
just
leave
it
there.
So
we
and
went
off
one
officer
on
military
leave,
so
mac
is
on
a
skeleton
crew
right
now
we're
still
getting
stuff
done,
but
that's
where
we're
at
and
it's
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
we're
getting
used
to
it,
but
we're
still
moving
forward
with
these
wonderful
programs
so
and
we
have
basically
one
vet
currently
so
two,
if
you
count
camille
but
she's,
mostly
working
virtually
because
of
coven,
so.
D
That's
where
we're
at,
but
it's
still
amazing
the
work
that
they're
doing
they're
still
doing
how
many
two
days
a
week,
we're
still
doing
vaccine
clinics
and
microchip
clinics
and
helping
I
mean
it's
pretty
amazing.
It's
managed
intake
has
made
a
huge
difference
here
at
mac,
so
we'll
catch
up
with
you,
adam
offline.
B
All
right
dan,
can
you
confirm
the
date
and
time
for
the
next
meeting.
B
B
Guys
all
right
passes
and
thanks
everyone
for
a
good
meeting,
and
thanks
for
suffering
through
all
of
this
formality
that
I
am
so
bad
at.
G
D
Have
you
stopped
recording.
H
C
H
A
D
All
right
I'll
email,
the
the
stuff
too,
did
you
already
email
the
stuff
to
adam
too.
The
safety
net
program.