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B
Good
evening
everybody,
my
name
is
vanessa
willis.
I
am
one
of
the
co-chairs
for
the
cpac
committee
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota.
Come
back
here,
minnesota
status,
section
13.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
would
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
an
extra
clerk
to
call
the
rules
that
we
may
verify
that
the
president
of
a
quorum
is
here
miss.
C
E
A
D
A
D
H
E
B
You
miss
hillary
with
that
we
will
proceed
to
our
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
assets
to
the
city's
legislation,
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
limbs.minneapolis
mn.gov,
and
now
we
need
to
have
an
adoption
of
the
agenda.
Is
there
any
one
that
need
to
add
or
take?
Or
what
say
you
about
the
agenda.
B
I
J
B
Thank
you,
everybody,
it's
so
so
so
passed
next.
The
meeting
minutes
from
12
to
is
there
any
corrections
or
anything
need
to
be
added
or
taken
out.
If
not,
can
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
accept
the
minutes
from
12-2.
B
G
I
G
A
B
You
will
see
it
in
it.
I
have
some
some
changes
from
the
2
12
of
december.
The
second
meeting,
the
formatted
formatting
changes
from
version.
The
community
entity
timeline
was
added.
The
community
benefit
guy
guide,
added
in
implementation,
sections
editions
of
the
glossary
and
a
few
honors
move
to
an
appendix.
B
You
also
received
a
flyer
that
you
can
also
download
and
share,
and
eric
will
now
provide
us
a
brief
city
update
now.
Okay,
eric.
K
All
right,
can
you
hear
me.
K
In
a
new
setup,
so
it's
a
little
a
little
home.
K
So
I
just
I
have
a
few
things
to
to
update
you
on
from
the
city,
one
in
general,
the
city's
budget
is
going
to
be
debated
finally
and
and
potentially
approved
at
the
end
of
the
evening
at
the
actual
city
council.
Meeting
that
addresses
the
special
city
council
meeting
will
begin
at
10
o'clock
this
evening.
So
when
you're
done
with
this
meeting
and
you
or
municipal
shenanigans,
you
can
watch
the
city
council
meeting
at
10..
K
I
want
to
update
you
on
a
meeting
I
had
with
the
university
of
minnesota
meeting
with
a
professor
there
about
looking
at
some
modeling
around
impacts
of
development
on
properties
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
and
while
there
is
not
a
specific
model
that
works
exactly
for
the
for
the
upper
harbor,
there
are
some
other
things
that
might
be
able
to
show
some
impacts
to
valuations
based
on
criteria
and
variables,
and
so
I've
I've
been
given
like
good
professors
at
the
university
too.
K
They
gave
me
he
gave
me
four
studies
that
I
have
to
read
and
I
think
I'll
read
those
and
then
I'm
probably
going
to
call
have
a
call
out
for
some
of
the
folks
that
are
on
this
committee.
Who'd
want
to
maybe
help
me
with
how
to
react
and
and
and
talk
with
the
professor
again
about
how
to
how
to
scope
out
a
study
to
show
impacts,
and
this
might
be
something
we
do
at
a
higher
scale,
as
opposed
to
just
looking
at
the
impacts
of
of
development
at
upper
harbor.
K
We
might
be
able
to
look
at
how
other
factors
and
variables
impact
the
valuation
of
housing
in
the
north
side
because
of
the
the
very
the
other
studies
that
the
university
has
done
in
the
past,
so
I'll
be
reading
those
over
the
next
week
or
so,
and
then
I
think,
we'll
probably
give
you
a
call
after
the
holidays
for
some
some
advice
and
see
if
there's
some
willing
people-
and
I
I
think
I
could
guess
who
might
be
willing
to
help
me
at
least
one
person-
yes,
yes,
ma'am,
I'm
not
complaining.
K
I
want
my
help.
I
need
some
help.
So
I
see
you
bill,
but
we'll
we'll
put
that
out
there,
so
that's
that
I
think
that's
moving
in
a
good
direction.
K
The
second
thing
I
wanted
to
tell
you
about
is
we
had
a
meeting
today
with
some
of
the
members
of
the
cpc,
some
civil
rights
attorneys,
the
public
policy
project,
james
trice
and
tavon
nolan,
who
wears
many
hats,
and
just
a
community
just
downright
good
community
leader,
but
also
with
our
learning
table
team
and
a
couple
of
other
community
members
and
staff
from
the
city
and
the
city
attorney's
office.
The
city
attorney
was
pulled
away,
unfortunately,
for
some
of
the
budget,
the
last
minute
budget
issues
that
are
happening
right
now,
but
we
walked
away.
K
I
be
hopeful
that
we
walked
away
with
with
discussions
about
how
to
partner
have
the
city
partner
with
these
attorneys,
to
start
to
build
the
defensible
case.
To
put
you
know,
essentially
black
folks
or
american
descendants
of
slavery
at
the
front
of
this
project
in
a
most
more
explicit
way.
K
So
we
agreed
to
convene
that
group
again
in
about
a
month
just
after
the
holidays
and
the
new
year
and
then
in
the
meantime,
I
have
a
list
of
things
that
I
have
to
do
internally
to
try
and
make
sure
that
we
can
have
that
deal
moving.
K
So
when
we
meet
next
time
we're
talking
about
action,
steps
as
opposed
to
theoretical
partnerships,
so
that
that's
moving
forward
uroc
and
the
roy
wilkins
center
at
the
university
of
minnesota,
which
is
run
by
dr
samuel
myers,
have
agreed
to
meet
with
the
city
as
well
to
help
with
framing
that
that
work.
So
I'm
very
appreciative
to
makita
zulu
gillespie,
who
is
willing
to
work
with
the
city
in
her
role
as
the
rock
director
and
connecting
us
with
the
roy
wilkins
center
and
dr
samuel
myers.
K
If
you
don't
know
him,
he
is
a
preeminent
expert
in
civil
rights
issues
in
the
united
states.
So
it's
a
good
he's
a
good
asset
to
have
in
minnesota
and
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
get
some
advice
but
we're
starting
to
put
some
of
the
pieces
in
place.
So
we
need
some
action
steps
and
I'm
hopeful
that
it's
not
only
about
the
upper
harbor
but
other
practices
and
policies
and
procedures
that
the
city
has
in
place
that
might
intentionally
or
unintentionally
impacts
the
lives
of
black
people.
K
So
that's
the
two
things
I
have
updates
for,
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll
take
them
now.
L
Thank
you
when
you're
evaluating
the
property
for
different
purposes,
can
you
please
include
the
close
by
northeast
neighborhoods
in
that.
K
Yeah
we
can,
I
we
will
not
have
we'll
do
a
study
until
we
talk
about
to
talk
to
this
committee
about
it,
so
the
geography
has
not
been
set,
but
you
know
I
I'm
looking
at
it
also
as
an
advantage.
K
If
we
can
look
at
other
variables,
we
might
be
more
inclusive
of
property,
because
then
we
can,
we
can
see
how
displace
displacement
pressures
are
impacting
values
in
some
of
the
areas
in
the
northeast.
As
you
know,
the
the
green
zone
goes
into
northeast
and
and
it's
there's
some
concentrated
areas
of
poverty
there.
So
it's
possible
that
we'll
look
even
further
into
northeast.
K
Can
you
share,
I
I
will.
I
will
share
the
studies
that
I
have
I'll
give
them
to
hillary
and
she
can
put
it
in
the
in
the
send
it
out
to
the
group.
H
My
question,
my
point
was
not
to
ask
a
question
simply
to
advise
the
committee,
as
I've
so
often
said.
I
want
to
commend
eric
for
his
work
today
and
pulling
this
group
together
with
the
city
attorney.
It
again
demonstrates
our
commitment
that
we
don't
have
to
always
be
so
distrustful
of
our
city.
H
Colleagues
who
work
with
us
and
work
with
us,
because
I
have
personally
observed
and
I've
been
working
with
the
city
a
long
time
and
they
have
always
been
transparent
with
us
straightforward
with
us,
and
I
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
the
committee
and
let
those
of
us
who
are
on
this
call
know
that
we
we
can.
We
can
trust
and
always
verify,
but
let's
keep
it
going
in
that
direction.
B
K
I
don't
know
if
councilmember
cunningham
is
on,
because
most
almost
all
the
council
members
are
in
all
the
council.
Members
should
be
in
the
city
council,
public
hearing
right
now,
but
I
do
have
time
with
him
tomorrow
to
brief
him
he's
been
consumed,
as
all
of
our
elected
officials
have
been
with
the
with
the
budget
over
the
last
two
weeks.
Is
there
something
you'd
like
me
to
communicate
to
him.
E
It
would
have
been
nice
to
kind
of
get
his
thoughts
on
the
process,
how
he
feels
about
the
plan
and
then
also
some
insight
on
what
happens
if
it
does.
If
the
plan
does
not
get
passed
at
city
council,
what
happens
to
all
our
work?
Those
are
just
some
questions.
We
would
like
to
hear
from
him.
K
I
I
I'm
just
so
we
have
some
context.
I
will
give
you
what
we're
doing
from
a
staff
perspective
and
I'll.
Let
I'll
convey
these
to
the
council
member
as,
as
you
know,
we've
we
put
this
out
for
public
poli
for
public
comment
that
goes
till
january
15th.
K
K
What's
what's
on
the
table
and
highlighting
all
the
community
benefits
that
can
come
out
of
this
and
the
amount
of
work
that
you've
done
so
we're
hopeful
that
we're
doing
the
groundwork
now
from
a
staff
perspective
and
we
we
bring
in
hillary
and
and
joanna
and
and
our
public
works
officials,
so
any
kind
of
the
technical
issues
that
are
there
that
they
want
to
ask.
We
we
give.
K
I
am
give
we're
giving
a
an
update
briefing
to
the
mayor
later
this
month
and
so
we're
hopeful
that
there
won't
be
any
surprises.
Like
the
concept
plan,
we've
also
told
them
that
if
they
do
hear
things-
because
you
know
this,
this
is
there's
a
lot
of
stories
out
there
about
the
committee
and
the
work
to
very.
Please
again
back
to
bill's
point.
K
Please
verify
it
with
us,
we're
very
open
to
doing
that
and
if,
if
we've
also,
unfortunately
markela
or
miss
vanessa,
we
volunteered
you
every
once,
while
if
they
want
to
talk
directly
to
the
committee,
because
I've
never
heard
I've
never
been
in
a
room
where
you
haven't
spoken
your
mind
and
that's
that's
exactly
what
we
need
so
we're
also
putting
out
a
lot
of
in
you
know,
we're
doing
a
mailer
to
everybody
on
the
north
side
and
the
neighborhoods
along
the
northeast
side
of
the
river,
so
that
people
know
that
this
project
is
is
going
forward
and
they
have
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
K
And
then
some
folks
on
this
committee
have
helped
us
with
some
some
some
media
that
we
did
yesterday,
and
I
think
you
saw
some
newspaper
articles
and,
and
mr
al
mcfarland
was
really
kind
enough
to
give
us
a
lot
of
time
on
his
his
radio
and
youtube
program,
and
you
know
miss
macarthur
marcelo
was
on
that
and
you
know
told
told
basically
said
it
the
way
it
is
what's
what's
what's
at
stake
here
and-
and
I
think
that's
the
time
now
is
to
tell
people
what's
at
stake
here
and
and
make
sure
that
they
know
what
they're
voting
for
and
and
I'm
hopeful.
E
K
B
Thank
you
miss
hillary.
A
Hi
yeah,
I
can
do
that
now
and
then
we
can
then
focus
the
rest
of
the
meeting
on
the
plan.
I'm
ahead.
Also
on
there
about
the
meeting
schedule.
We
can
take
that
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
if
you
prefer,
once
we
kind
of
get
through
the
discussion
and
see
how
it
goes.
So,
let
me
know
if
that
sounds
good.
Eric
did
update
you
on
some
of
the
communications
that
have
already
been
underway.
A
So,
as
you
know,
the
plan
was
draft
plan
for
public
comment
was
released
on
saturday
and
there
were
those
updates
from
when
you
saw
it
last
wednesday
that
we
noted
so
that
is
out
the
project
website.
You
know
I've
tried
to
put
this
in
emails
to
you
in
memos
and
stuff,
but
I'll
just
give
a
quick
overview.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
have
the
information
you
need
without
overloading.
A
A
The
draft
coordinated
plan
page
that's
where
you'll
see
the
project,
video
that
the
city
produced
and
then
the
explanation
kind
of
the
highlights
again
and
so
some
of
those
you
know
some
of
those
high
points
is
what
is
included
on
the
postcard
mailer
you'll,
see
that
on
the
info
flyer
too,
and
then
that's
what's
highlighted
in
the
project
video
and
then
there
is
the
draft
plan
pdf
itself
and
then
the
link
to
the
online
survey.
So
the
online
survey
is
how
we'll
be
collecting
public
comment.
A
There
are,
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
recall
right
at
the
second.
After
all,
the
all,
the
back
and
forth
on
the
survey.
How
many
questions
I'm
gonna
say
roughly
six,
but
there
are
some.
You
know
more
focused
questions
and
then
room
for
you
know
more
open
comments
and
then
some
additional
questions
to
be
submitted
as
well,
and
so
that
that
is
open
until
january
15th
and
then
there's
also
the
pdf
of
the
plan
is
embedded
in
the
website.
A
To
promote
all
of
this,
I
think
again
that
was
in
my
email
to
you
on
saturday
and
probably
in
my
memo
from
last
week,
but
it's
the
postcard
mailer,
that's
going
out
this
week
by
neighborhood
and
then
there's
also
online
ads,
which
I
had
mentioned
before
on
social
media,
and
then
we've
had
some
radio
spots
or
sorry
had
one
that
was
yesterday.
A
You
know
with
insight
on
kfai,
so
that
was
great
and
then
there
was
a
media
briefing
yesterday
morning
and
then
there
will
be
will
be
on
anthony
taylor
show
on
kmoj
next
wednesday
for
his
minneapolis
360
show
talking
about
it
and
again,
when
I
say
we
I
mean
it'll,
be
someone
from
the
city
project
team.
You
know.
Probably
you
know
this
like
most
is
kind
of
this
group
of
like
representatives.
A
So
if
there's
someone
from
the
learning
tables
like
james
or
devon,
or
both
if
markelle
or
miss
vanessa
and
the
co-chair
roles,
you
know
someone
from
the
city,
project
team
and
then
brandon,
and
so
you
kind
of
get
the
whole
picture
of
everyone.
That's
involved
and
all
the
work
that's
been
going
on.
The
city
is
going
to
host
two
online
open
houses
on
the
plan.
The
first
one
is
next
tuesday
at
5
p.m.
A
We're
busy
updating,
there's
a
facebook
event,
I
think
that's
being
pushed
out
through
the
city,
social
media
channels
and
then
we're
updating
to
make
sure
the
link
is
out
there
and
just
another
reminder
that
if
you
sign
up
for
email
subscription
updates
through
the
the
city
uses
a
service
called
gov
delivery.
So
whenever
you
see
reference
to
gov
delivery,
it's
like
on
the
website.
If
you
sign
up
for
updates,
it's
gov
delivery
provides
that
service
and
they
work
with.
A
You
know
local
governments
to
do
that,
and
so,
when
there's
a
meeting
like
your
these
committee
meetings,
we
send
out
through
that
list,
because
you
know
to
make
sure
everyone
has
the
info
they
need
to
call
in
or
whatever
it
might
be.
So
now
that
we're
going
to
have
some
other
events
apart
from
committee
meetings,
which
is
pretty
exciting,
those
are
will
be
sent
out
in
the
same
way
and
then
the
project
website
has
an
event:
calendar
that's
been
updated
too,
and
so
you'll
see
the
events
there.
A
The
events
I
had
also
included
my
email
to
you
include
the
learning
table.
The
december
learning
table
is
next
wednesday,
the
16th
and
then
mckinley
neighborhood
is
hosting
an
online
conversation
on
sunday,
the
20th
and
then
I
believe,
will
be
at
mckinley
board.
A
Sorry
mckinley,
neighborhood
organization,
board,
meeting
on
monday,
the
21st
actually
tonight
during
this
meeting
you
know
my
colleague
ratana,
that's
working
on
engagement
for
the
project
is
going
to
be
at
victory.
Neighborhood
and
I
was
at
botnet
with
fritona
last
night
I
mean
virtually
and
then
I
will
be
at
some
other
places.
A
I'm
sorry
I
don't
remember,
but
the
event
calendar
is
where
you
would
find
all
of
these
things
on
the
project
website
and
then
gov
delivery
will
probably
be
like
on
a
weekly
basis
at
this
point
to
make
sure
all
those
events
are
getting
out
there.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
me
know
I
can
forward
you
or
you
can
I
mean
you
can
find
them
on
your
own.
The
star
tribune
published
an
article
from
the
press
from
the
media
stuff.
A
Yesterday,
twin
cities,
business
magazine,
I
believe
it's
called
published
one
as
well
and
there's
gonna,
be
you
know
some
other
things
happening
too.
So
I'll
make
sure
you
can
find
out
about
those
or
know
about
those
as
you
you
know,
as
you're
interested,
but
otherwise
keep
your
eyes.
Keep
your
eyes
open.
It's
there's
gonna,
be
some
good
stuff
happening,
meaning
events
wise.
You
know
it's
nice
to
be
out
there
again
and
so
yeah.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions.
H
I
just
want
to
point
out
today
I
had
a
long
in-depth
conversation
with
pete
rhodes,
who
owns
channel
9
37
urban
works,
which
has
been
a
long
over
20
year,
only
black
owned
channel
cable
channel
in
the
state
and
one
of
a
few
across
the
country
he
has
offered
his
channel,
which
has
over
90
000
listeners
metro-wide
according
to
arbitron
rating
services,
which
is
such
a
rating
he's
offered
an
opportunity
to
interview
people
and
others
to
explain
to
the
community,
because
it's
well
watched
there
for
those
who
don't
get
the
other
notice
that
don't
pay
attention
or
they
run
out
of
the
insights.
H
H
While
I
have
nothing,
but
all
due
respect
for
our
two
co-chairs,
there's
some
other
people
who
remain
too
invisible
and
silent,
and
I
want
them
to
also
have
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
see
them
speak
to
the
work
that
they've
done
over
this
period
of
time.
H
So
I'll
offer
that
up
and
I'll
work
with
you
with
the
city
with
you
who
can
then
work
with
the
city's
communications
department,
because
I
just
won't
make
a
negative
comment
about
them.
I
just
I.
I
would
rather
work
through
you
that
it
said
like
that.
A
B
A
B
Job
so
the
next
agenda
item
the
next
agenda.
Island
is
unfinished
business,
updated
draft,
coordinated
plan
for
public
comment,
coordinated
plan,
12,
420
and
1209
comparison
chart
concept
plan
to
coordinate
a
plan.
My
color,
you
want
to
touch
on
that
or
run
that.
E
A
This
is
hillary,
I
was
gonna,
say,
perhaps
not
to
put
them
on
the
spot,
but
if
joanna
or
brandon
want
to
continue
the
conversation
or
kind
of
understand
where
we
left
it
off
right,
just
yeah,
let
me
know
I
can't
see
everybody
on
the
screen
right
now.
M
E
Is
here
yeah,
so
I
I
guess
I
do
have
two
questions.
Are
there
loose
ends
within
the
plan
that
we
need
to
tie
up?
If
so,
what
are
they
so
basically
like?
What
are
the
things
that
are
not
finalized
that
maybe
have
been
cushioned
within
the
plan,
but
not
finalized
by
cpc.
E
N
Sure,
thank
you
miss
vanessa.
This
is
joanna
hicks.
I
think-
and
this
probably
came
right
at
the
end
of
the
at
the
last
meeting,
so
I
think
we
had
a
brief
touch
point
on
the
community
engagement
process
in
terms
of
how
we
were
going
to
be
selecting
the
community
entity.
N
I
think,
as
we
discussed,
the
intention
is
that
at
our
january
meeting
we'll
be
reviewing
the
rfq
from
brandon,
and
I
know
that
at
least
we've
received
one
comment
and
I
don't
know
if
there
are
others
who
are
looking
to
add
comments
on
how
to
best
go
down
that
process,
so
that
community
engagement
piece
is
one
that
it
hasn't
had
a
incredibly
detailed
conversation.
N
But
we
had
that
piece,
and
we
touched
briefly
mrs
markella
on
our
proposal
that
we
start
with
a
community
benefits
agreement
with
mckinley
to
allow
us
to
have
a
bridge
between
the
cpdc
and
the
selection
of
the
community
entity
and
to
also
allow
us
the
ability
to
if
that
community
entity
that
is
chosen
as
a
startup
has
the
ability
to
kind
of
get
up
and
running
before
we
can
kind
of
transition
without
losing
time.
N
So
I
think
we
discussed
that,
and
that
is
in
there
and
those
were
added
in
the
last
plan.
The
things
we
had
talked
through,
including
the
summary
of
community
benefits
and
where
they're
located
so
redevelopment
agreement,
ground
lease
operating
agreement
for
the
venue
or
community
benefits
agreement,
and
I
don't
know
if
people
would
like
to
talk
through
more
of
that.
I
think
those
are
the
probably
the
two
biggest
pieces.
N
There
was
a
an
additional
question
raised
by
alexis
last
week
about
traffic
and
sort
of
getting
details
about
what's
happening.
You
know
with
the
next
level
of
traffic
and
and
the
aur
aur
piece,
and
I
think
that
the
what
hillary
will
be
proposing
is
that
we
take
that
up
in
january
at
the
meeting
and
that
that,
because
that's
going
to
be
there's,
I
think
information
that
we
would
like
to
share
with
the
committee.
But
it's
probably
beyond
the
level
of
detail
that
would
be
in
the.
N
Sorry
and
then
I
missed
a
very
big
one,
so
on
the
housing
side,
which
I
think
was
probably
the
very
biggest
one,
is
that
what
we
ended
up
writing-
and
I
think
we
touched
on
this
last
week
as
well,
but
because
you
weren't
here-
and
I
want
to
just
reiterate
this-
is
that
what
we
did
was
we
put
in
the
implementation
section
the
chart
that
ms
shannon
requested
that
tried
to
lay
out
everything
that
was
happening
in
detail
on
phase
one
and
then
the
options
for
that
were
being
considered
for
for
phase
two
in
terms
of
the
level
of
affordability
and
the
density,
noting
that
all
of
the
options
that
were
in
phase
two,
when
combined
with
the
initial
level
of
affordability
in
phase
one
met,
our
originally
stated
goal
of
having
a
third,
a
third
third
across
the
entire
site
and
had
different
aspects
of
in
terms
of
ground
lease
payments
potentially.
N
And
so
what
we
wrote
was
that
the
cpc
had
not
come
to
consensus
on
that
particular
piece
and
left
it,
but
with
the
options
that
were
being
considered.
So
if
the
cpc
wanted
to
make
a
recommendation
at
some
point,
we
can
do
that.
But
right
now
it's
in
there
as
the
cpc
has
not
come
to
consensus,
yet
got.
N
I
think
they
were,
I
think
it
was
30
30
39
points.
B
N
A
A
You
and
that
it
also
notes
that
you
know
again,
like
we've,
discussed
a
committee.
That
phase
two
would
then
follow.
You
know
what
might
be
a
more
typical
process
around
if
it's
community
process
you
know
but
around
the
development.
So
if
that
decision
is
not
made
at
this
time
that
there
would
be
some
additional
process
yeah
in
the
future,
as
we
get
closer
to
phase
two
brandon
can
correct
me
if
that's
wrong,
but
I
think
that's
what
the
discussion
on
committee
has
been.
N
And
if
I
could
just
know
one
other
thing,
I
think
the
other
piece
that
wasn't
on
our
last
conversation
was
the
forward
that
was
added
to
the
plan
where
we
also
tried
to
be
front
and
center
about
some
of
the
issues
that
you
have
been
raising.
And
I
don't
know
if
that
is
part
of
the
conversation
you'd
like
to
have
tonight
to
make
sure
that
that
you
know
gets
addressed
as
well.
A
E
A
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
some
items
from
implementation
that
still
need
to
be
addressed,
and
I
think
that
it
wasn't
at
a
place
where
it
was
ready
to
be
part
of
the
plan,
and
we've
had
discussions
at
committee
about
the
hub
that
I
think
you
know
so
I'll,
say
brandon
and
would
definitely
have
more
information
about
this
than
I
do.
A
But
just
kind
of
you
know
what
the
process
might
look
like
and
if
we,
you
know,
if
there's
some
more
information
again
the
potential
that
needs
to
be
addressed
in
the
final
draft
that
goes
to
council
again.
So
once
the
draft
goes
through
public
comment,
you
know
there's
opportunity
to
address
comments,
or
you
know
make
it
into
a
final
draft
that
would
go
to
council.
C
C
My
motion
is
regarding
the
city
of
minneapolis,
requesting
the
city
of
senators
as
well
as
hennepin
county
to
all,
come
together
to
create
and
implement
a
property
tax
limitations
that
would
directly
affect
north
side
residents,
similar
to
proposition
13
that
if
anybody,
if
you're
aware
of
it
out
in
california
or
not
it's
just
basically
where
all
real
property
is
established,
you
know
base
year
values
and
they're
at
a
restricted
rate
of
increase,
no
greater
than
a
two
percent
a
year
and
there's
a
limit
on
assessments
assessed
values
of
one
percent
every
year.
C
You
know,
unless
there
is
some
sort
of
change
in
ownership
of
and
or
new
construction
would
occur,
then
those
properties
would
be
assessed
at
a
market
rate,
but
in
this
situation,
I'd
like
for
something
to
be
reviewed
and
implemented
to
protect
homeowners
and
ensure
that
we
can
have
development
without
displacement
on
the
north
side.
Protecting
residents-
that's
been
here.
You
know
before
the
market
crash
for
the
tornado
they're
still
maintaining
through
all
of
you
know
this
crime
and
everything
else
we
got
going
on
over
here
that
nobody's
being
pushed
out.
C
So,
okay.
B
C
B
H
Second,
the
second:
it
get
something.
I
L
A
D
C
My
only
other
thing
is:
how
are
we
going
to
connect
with
creating
the
community
benefits
agreement
with
the
developer,
as
well
as
a
community
benefits?
Agreement
with
the
venue
is
that
you
know
I
know
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
You
know
it's
still
ongoing
and
that
stuff,
but
we
need
to
come
together
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
the
community
benefits
is
in
place
and
if
mckinley
is
going
to
be
holding
that.
E
Right,
I
would
say:
well,
I
want
to
figure
out.
Yes,
mckinley
is
interested
in
doing
that
right.
There's
meetings
that'll
be
happening
throughout
december
and
january,
so
that
the
mckinley
board
is
actually
like
fully.
They
can
fully
understand
what
that
means
to
hold
that
community
benefits
agreement.
My
understanding
from
the
mckinley
board
is
that
they
do
not
want
to
take
on
something
that
we
are
not
able
to
uphold
right.
So
we're
getting
all
the
back
background
information
on.
How
do
we
hold
the
developers
accountable?
E
What
does
that
look
like,
especially
legally,
if
by
chance
that
they're,
not
you
know,
following
through
on
the
community
benefits
agreement,
so
just
so
that
the
committee
knows
that
mckinley
is
working
behind
the
scenes
to
understand
what
it
means
to
hold
that
cba
and
make
sure
that
we're
in
the
place
to
actually
oppose
it.
H
Yeah
just
quickly
to
say
about
the
cba.
The
most
critical
aspect
of
the
cba
is:
how
is
it
enforced?
I
used
the
term
early
in
my
comments,
while
I've
never
indicated
any
distrust
in
anyone
associated
with
this
project.
H
There
has
to
be
ways
in
which
we
can
verify
that's
going
to
be
critical,
because
the
enforcement
of
cpas
across
the
country
is
often
fell
falling
flat
on
their
face
because
there
was
no
true
enforcement
mechanism
so
that
that
is
a
that
is
a
concern,
and-
and
so
I
just
don't-
want
that
off
of
members
and
and
anyone's
got
any
ideas.
Previous
experience
that
has
been
successful.
H
E
Right
and
that's
what
mckinley
of
the
board
is
trying
to
understand
exactly:
how
do
we
enforce
that?
What
and
what
does
that
actually
look
like.
F
Yes,
I
think
it
is
a
two-parter,
no
no
three-part
question
today,
but
the
two-part
question
is
post-community
input
and,
as
we
continue
to
sit
with
the
plan,
when
we
come
back
in
january,
how
will
we
begin
modifying
and
enhancing
based
on
input
and
any
additional
thoughts
that
we
have
when
we
see
things
in
a
more
finalized
form?
The
second
part
is
that
there
were
some
requests
for
information.
F
F
A
I
wanted
to
ask
so
in
the
conversation
last
week's
meeting
with
dana
on
the
line
when
bill
was
asking
for
the
additional
information
about
performance
for
the
venue,
it
ended
up
being
a
more
of
a
discussion
about
what
the
sources
of
revenue
are
and
then
dana
had
offered
to
do
a
little
research
to
get
a
performer
from
a
similar
venue
that,
but
it
would
be
anonymous
due
to
you
know,
just
I
guess,
proprietary
information
and
competition
in
the
market.
A
So
that's
what
I
had
as
the
outstanding
does
that
sound
sorry,
accurate
or
right,
I
don't
know.
I.
D
H
The
issue
has
become
one
of
we
do
not
have
any
understanding
real
understanding
of
all
of
the
sources
of
revenue
that
can
come
and
I'll
just
give
you
some
examples
of
some
friends
of
mine
who
built
a
baseball
stadium
in
st
louis,
where
I
grew
up
he's
saying
this
really
but
saint
louis
was
known
nearby
and
they
said
to
me
when
they
they
also
built
a
a
kind
of
an
outdoor
venue
that
the
community
benefits
agreement.
H
I'm
sorry
that
the
concerts
often
had
sources
of
revenue
that
include
sponsorship
and
promotional
fees
that
were
included
in
the
cba
now
with
a
very
small
percentage
of
it.
But
for
me
every
nickel
and
the
parking
and
all
those
other
kinds
of
things-
and
you
know
the
revenue
from
food
sources
or
whatever
that
we
just
want
to
know
what
are
the
all
of
the
sources
of
revenue
without
getting
into
a
proprietary
business
so
that
we
can
understand.
H
What's
going
on
in
that
venue,
because
there's
going
to
be
an
advisory
committee
to
oversee
it
and
they
need
to
not
be
able
to
raise
those
kind
of
questions
and
track
the
revenue
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
a
reasonable
share
of
this
city.
Home
venue.
A
Okay,
so
so
I
think
this
conversation
is
addressed
in
page
three
of
the
meeting
minutes
in
case.
Anyone
is
wondering.
D
B
Dana
answered
first
avenue
noted
that
the
three
dollars
was
the
maximum
and
that
she
could
share
not
an
anonymous
profit
and
loss
statement
for
a
similar
venue,
but
those
would
be
due
to
the
competition
would
be
anonymous.
Mr
french
notice,
that
there
are
that
there
are
four
general
buckets
of
revenue
promotions
used
to
be
50,
50
between
promoter
and
ban,
and
now
it
is
90
10
band
promoter
and
the
promoter
takes
most
of
the
risk.
B
The
second
is
the
food
and
beverage
which
is
generally
the
source
of
profit
now
and
which
we
have
offered
to
the
north
side.
There
are
the
ticket
fees
and
then
merchandise,
auxiliary
fees.
Community
comments
that
I
don't
need
to
see
the
the
proprietary
information
that
the
explanation
breakdown
was
helpful.
H
I
think
that
raises
the
point
I
mean
it
raises
the
issue
in
a
very
part,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
leave
out
sponsorship,
because
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
see
this
breakdown
of
all
of
the
sources
of
revenue,
no
proprietary
information,
but
where
there
is
because
in
some
places
the
city
gets
the
parking
like
at
the
timber
get
part
of
the
parking
fee
or
not
but
or
the
football.
I
don't
know
that,
but
my
point
is:
she
understands
all
the
sources
of
revenue.
H
F
The
point
of
bringing
up
that
specific
example
is
that
there
were
several
other
requests
made
during
the
last
meeting
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
are
captured
and
that
we
have
a
way
of
hearing
from
the
report
outs
during
january
as
we
reconcile
the
plan.
So
the
first
question
was:
how
do
we
finalize
the
plan
based
on
community
input
and
any
understanding
that
adjustments
we
want
to
make
in
any
understanding
we
have
now,
as
we
get
these
report
outs?
A
A
So
I
would
recommend
you
check
out
the
online
survey
questions
and
then,
of
course,
be
reading
through
the
draft
plan,
especially
the
the
updated
sections
or
parts
of
the
plan
within
the
implementation
section
that
we
had
noted,
and
so
because
some
of
those
comments
in
the
survey
might
provide
more
open
end.
You
know,
are
there's
some
open-ended
comment.
A
Portions
of
the
survey
that's
going
to
take,
I
think,
potentially
some
time
to
categorize
those
answers,
and
so
we've
been
talking
about
behind
the
scenes,
how
that
makes
the
most
sense
to
do,
because
I
don't
have
the
survey
answers
or
results.
Yet
I
know
that
the
the
raw
data-
let's
say
from
the
survey
because
the
smartsheet
will
the
back
end-
is
like
an
excel
spreadsheet,
more
or
less,
and
so
we
can
show
for
the
survey
questions
that
have
answers
based
on
you
know.
A
The
range
of
you
know
select
one
like
very
you
know,
satisfied
to
not
at
all
satisfied
or
something
of
that
sort
that
those
can
be
compiled,
or
I
guess
I
don't
know
what
I'm
saying.
So
it's
really
good
that
this
meeting
is
recorded,
never
embarrassing
at
all,
so
those
answers
can
be,
I
think,
easily
summarized
and
then
the
open-ended
comments,
I
think,
would
be
read
through,
and
this
is
something
we've
talked
about
a
committee.
A
A
little
bit
is
like
what's
happening
during
throughout
the
public
comment
period
you
know,
is
the
is
the
committee
seeing
any
of
this
stuff
as
we're
as
we're
going
through
it?
Staff
will
be,
I
think,
probably
spending
you
know.
I
assume
spending
time
on
it
as
we're
going
through
to
make
sure
it's
not
obviously
just
like
one.
You
know
info
dump
right
at
the
end
and
then
packaging
those
comments,
and
so
you
know
the
way
that
I'm
have
been
thinking
about
it,
which
I
haven't
been
able
to
think
about
it.
A
That
much
the
last
couple
weeks
is,
you
know
some
kind
of
staff
report
or
memo
to
then
you
know
provide
the
summary,
with
kind
of
like
key
key
topic
areas
or
categories
of
the
open
comments
and
then
the
summary
of
those
other
questions.
So
you
can
see
how
people
are
responding
to
those
questions
and
then
can
you
know
have
some
more
focus
around.
A
A
If
a
lot
of
people
are
pointing
towards
that,
and
then
if
that
ends
up
being
something
the
committee
would
want
to
consider,
you
know-
and
I
also
would
back
that
up
and
say
because
of
all
the
work
that
we've
spent
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
you
know,
I
think
the
purpose
of
all
of
us
working
together
is
not
to
have
a
plan.
You
know
we
haven't
set
out
with
a
draft
plan
that
then
we
have
that
we're
going
to
scrap
and
start
over,
and
I
don't
think
you
want
to
do
that.
A
I
don't
think
you
know,
I
don't
think
that's
the
purpose
of
us
working
together.
So
the
the
plan,
as
it
is,
I
think,
is,
is
solid,
and
I
would
hope
that
people
agree
with
that
at
this
point
and
that
it
will
be.
There
is
the
potential
to
change
some
things
update
some
things,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
wholesale.
Changes
like
it
was
with
the
concept
plan.
If
that's
helpful,
I
real.
A
So
let
me
know
if
that
answered
your
question
or
didn't,
but
I
think
just
kind
of
understanding
what
you
might
be
getting
on
the
back
end
or
you
know,
once
the
public
comment
period
is
closed
for
the
january
27th
meeting
and
so
again
january
27th
is
the
date
we've
been
discussing
as
the
cpc
meeting
after
the
public
comment
period
ends
so
that
you
can
receive
the
public
comments
in
your
meeting
packet
review
them
and
then
come
back
and
discuss
and
review
the
final
draft
plan.
A
And
then,
if
you
want
to
meet
january,
to
address
some
of
the
other
things
we've
been
talking
about,
I
would
suggest
january
6th
as
a
potential
good
date
putting
that
out
there.
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
stone
that
you
know.
There
are
a
couple
of
events
planned
for
those
first
couple
of
weeks
of
january,
because
the
public
comment
period
will
still
be
open
and
so
yeah
I'll
stop
there
and
see.
If
there's
further
questions.
G
Yeah,
I
do
real
quick,
so
the
the
one
piece
is
that
hillary
that
was
helpful
joanna
the
question
that
markella
had
asked
you
earlier
about.
There
were
some
pieces.
I
feel
like
in
the
coordinated
plan
that
you
guys
had
to
kind
of
gloss
over
because
it
felt
like
the
committee
hadn't
gotten
completely
to
alignment.
G
G
If
we
know
right
now
that
there's
still
outstanding
issues-
and
so
I
heard
your
explanation,
can
you
just
raise
it
one
more
time
make
sure
we're
really
clear
on
what
is
anything
outstanding,
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
the
committee's
fully
aligned
on?
So
we
can
just
make
sure
we
know
what
it
is
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
actually
address
it
either
during
when
we
incorporate
public
comments
or
not.
But
I
don't
want
to
lose
it
because
I
felt
like
there
was
small
pieces
in
there
that
we
haven't
fully
aligned
on.
N
Yes,
yes,
I
can,
and
if
hillary,
if
you
would
be
willing,
I
have
most
of
this
written
down,
but
probably
not
in
the
order,
I'm
going
to
say
it
in
now.
That
courtney
asked
that
specific
question.
So
you
could
help
me
remember
this
when
I
say
it
out
loud,
so
I
think
the
pieces
that
were
not
clarified
that
we,
I
feel
like
are
bigger
than
the
committee
has
expressed
they
wanted
to
be-
is
the
recommendation
on
phase
two
affordability.
N
The
committee
has
said
that
they
wanted
to
go
and
go
specifically
with
a
recommendation
and
right.
So
I
think
that's
one.
I
think
we
provided
the
information
that
shannon
requested
and
I
think
that's
a
piece
number
two
on
the
community
engagement
selection
process.
There
was
a,
I
think,
a
discussion
last
week
about
whether
or
not
having
mckinley
nominate
the
group
of
people
who
would
help
the
development
team
select.
N
The
community
entity
was
broad
or
expansive
enough,
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
one
where
if
we
have
a
specific
recommendation
that
would
include
other
neighborhoods
or
to
have
you
know
another
person
added
to
that
group
and
maybe
mckinley
you
know,
works
with
a
adjacent
neighborhood.
I
think
that's
one
that
we
could
clarify
and
make
a
plan.
I
think
there
was
a
request
from
tenessa
to
understand
the
like
to
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
how
we're
going
to
move
to
this.
N
This
task
force
that
was
going
to
get
into
who's,
going
to
help
the
development
team
on
the
in
workforce,
inclusion
and
comprehensive
strategy
and
sort
of
understanding.
What
the
timing
of
that
and
the
makeup
of
that
is,
I
think
that
that
potentially
could
be
updated.
N
That
could
be
an
update
to
the
committee
in
january
so
that
it's
clear
and
then
we
had
the
rfq
process,
making
sure
that
that
the
criteria
for
the
rfq
were
established
correctly
and
that
the
committee
had
an
opportunity
to
see
the
rfq
so
that
it
is
ready
to
go
when
we
approve
the
process.
I
don't
know
that
that
necessarily
has
to
happen.
I
think
we
want
to
adjust
the
process
for
the
selection.
N
I
think
we
should
address
that
before
the
community
engagement
comes
back,
but
I
don't
think
we
have
to
have
the
rfq
finalized
necessarily
in
early
january.
I
think
that
could
be
finalized
in
february
and
and
then
so.
Those
were
the
big
pieces
and
then
just
if
I,
if
I
have
a
floor,
I
will
add
on
the
additional
requests
that
were
made
last
week,
that
I
think
we
could
address
in
some
ways.
N
So
there
was
a
specific
request
for
information
on
pollution
and
impacts
on
the
site
and
environmental
site,
which
I
think
I
think
got
addressed
in
the
meeting
by
pointing
people
to
the
environmental
reports
that
are
linked
to
the
website.
But
I
think
our
takeaway
was
that
we're
going
to
try
to
add
that
into
an
faq,
a
frequently
asked
questions
section
where
it
said.
N
If
you're
curious
about
environmental,
here's
where
you
would
go
so
that
we
have
that
response
for
other
people
who
might
be
interested
there
were
questions
about
sort
of
the
auar
process
and
how
it
relates
specifically
to
the
next
steps
of
land
use
plans.
And
so
our
proposal
there
would
be
to
bring
back
hillary
dvorak.
Who
is
the
the
planner
who
has
been
shepherding
this
process?
N
Who
and
she
would
have
be
able-
I
think,
in
january,
to
be
able
to
speak
to
next
steps
with
engagement
around
the
aur
and
discuss
a
couple
components
that
came
up
last
week
about
noise
and
traffic
and,
I
think,
get
some
executive
summary
from
those
like
detailed
studies
out
to
the
committee
so
that
they
could
see
those,
because
I
think
those
were
questions
that
were
raised
by
both
mary
and
alexis
and
relate
to
some
of
the
conversations
that
are
happening
at
the
cac
as
well.
N
And,
finally,
I
think
miss
shannon.
You
had
a
recommend.
You
had
a
request
about
looking
for
a
style
guide
for
the
buildings,
and
that
is
another
piece
that
hillary
dvorak
would
want
to
speak
to.
I
think
the
from
a
planner
perspective
they
because
of
all
the
overlapping
guidances
that
relate
to
this
particular
site,
including
the
shoreline
district
and
the
critical
area
overlay.
N
So
I
think
she'd
like
to
walk
through
that
with
you
and
try
to
understand
what
specific
concerns
there
might
be
and-
and
hopefully
I
think
she
feels
like
this
style
guide
should
be
addressed
in
that
in
the
build
form
that
is
contained
in
the
2040
plan.
But
at
least
for
my
minutes
last
week,
those
were
the
sort
of
major
requests
that
were
made.
F
That
is
quite
impressive
and
I
think,
on
the
style
guide,
you
know
we
had
some
great
comments
when
public
works
was
in.
I
think
the
committee
members
had
a
lot
of
great
thoughts
and
community
members
certainly
do
in
terms
of
how
we
make
the
space
welcoming
you
know
place
keeping
as
opposed
to
place
making,
but
that
that
was
a
good
list.
N
Yes,
and
and
actually
to
add
on
to
that,
we
had
a.
We
had
a
really
good
conversation
today
at
our
sort
of
internal
site
planning.
Meeting
about
you
know,
part
of
the
part
of
what's
so
challenging
about
this
is
that
this
committee
has
gotten
so
deep
into
sort
of
what
we're
doing
that
it's
sort
of
we're
sort
of
ahead
of
where
the
actual
engineering
and
planning
and
all
these
things
are.
N
But
what
we
talked
about
was
that
I
think
there
are
some
value
statements
as
it
relates
to
the
approach
to
traffic
into
buildings
that
I
think
we
could
potentially
express
in
a
way
that
would
ensure
that
that
is
sort
of
contained
within
the
coordinated
plan,
sections
on
traffic
noise,
and
things
like
that
that
we
could
accommodate
and
then
continue
to
allow
the
process
to
kind
of
move.
The
way
it
needs
to
move.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
working
on.
C
Hi
from
the
last
meeting
too,
I
think
they're.
At
the
very
end,
there
was
questions
on
ownership
models
in
the
town
home
and
what
was
programs
as
well
potential
programs,
and
I
think
there
was
also
conversation
of
land
trust,
so
that
that
was
another
piece
that
I
just
wanted
to
bring
just
up
again.
And
I
also
like
to
ask
about
where,
in
the
concept
plan
does
it
reflect
our
request
and
motion
for
seed
money,
startup
money
from
the
city?
C
I
know
we
got
budget
things
going
on,
but
the
seed
money
that
to
go
into
the
community
entity
portion
right
away
before
the
venue
is
up
and
running.
C
A
I
this
is
hillary.
I
would
say
real
quickly
that
if
you,
if
we
want
to
think
about
if
the
forward
is,
is
a
good
place
for
that,
we
we
can
discuss
that
now
and
then
or
go
to
mary
and
then
come
back
to
that.
But
that's
my
initial
reaction
so
just
to
think
about
it.
N
And-
and
I
I
would
agree
that
I
would
almost
I
think
that
not
only
that
one
but
also
the
motion
you
just
passed
tonight
tonight
both
be
in
the
forward
sort
of
front
and
center,
and
the
plan
coming
from
the
chair
of
the
committee.
N
D
A
I
would
say
sorry:
this
is
hillary,
so
as
we
were
pulling
together
the
draft
plan
last
week
when
markella
wasn't
feeling
well,
I
don't
so
markella.
You
can
speak
to
this
yourself
if
you
want,
but
I
think
that
that
may
not
be
the
final
draft
of
the
forward
to
go
into
the
final
draft
of
the
plan.
It
might
need
some
more
work,
so
that
is
that's
my
understanding.
Archela
can
speak
to
that,
though,
if
that's
accurate,
so.
E
And
what
I
would
say
if
there's
any
other
points
that
need
that
you
all
feel
need
to
be
added
to
the
forward
to
email,
because
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
take
accurate
notes
from
what
you
just
said
melissa.
So
what
I
would
advise
if
there
are
other
points
that
you
guys
feel
should
be
mentioning
before
to
email
that,
because
it
is
hard
to
kind
of
put
everything
that
we've
done
into
like
what
one
page.
C
C
Just
where
the
frustration
lies,
you
know
we
have
all
these
conversations.
This
is
stuff.
That's
been
said,
multiple
times,
multiple
meetings,
we've
made
motions
on
it,
it's
in
meeting
minutes.
You
know
why
do
we
have
to
continue
to
go
through
tooth
and
nail
on
this?
You
know
and
to
be
going
through
different
documents
to
be
trying
to
say.
Where
is
this
point?
Where
is
this
important
point?
Where
is
an
important
point?
You
know
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
there
and
that
it's
viewed
with
this
with
the
city
council.
B
C
A
I
have
I
have
them.
Can
I
just
say
I
have
them.
I
have
all
the
meeting
minutes
and
those
are
an
official
record
of
the
committee
as
well,
so
those
motions
are
easy
to
find
within
those,
especially
since
we
have
this.
You
know
went
through
this
whole
minutes
thing
this
summer
about
how
they
were
terrible
and
all
that
stuff,
so
they're
easy
to
find
now.
So
I
will
pull
that
together
I'll
share
that
with
markela,
because
you
guys
have
enough
to
do
so.
A
If
I
pull
that
together
and
share
with
markella
whatever
was
an
official
motion,
including
the
motion
tonight
I'll
make
sure
it's
there
and
my
perspective
as
staff.
The
reason
I
recommended
the
forward
is
that
that
is
the
letter
from
the
committee,
and
so
if
there
are
changes
you
want
policy
changes.
You
want
to
see
that
aren't
addressed
for
whatever
reason
in
the
plan.
That's
why
I
recommended
that
that
be
front
center
again
as
you
as
you
were
referencing
this
melissa.
You
know
that
then
council
will
see
it.
A
Anyone
that's
reading,
it
will
see
it.
You
know
it
is.
You
know
right
at
the
beginning,
and
especially
people
aren't
getting
deep
into
the
plan.
Then
that's
you
know
so
it's
my
two
cents.
N
And
if
I
could
just
add
melissa,
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
know
that
that
has
that
it
was
always
intended
to
be
part
of
the
forward
that
it's
not
something
we
have
been
intentionally
pulling
out
it
just
in
the
in
the
universe
that
involved
last
week
in
people's
human
lives
and
not
being
able
to
get
everything
done
like.
That
was
what
happened
so
we
we
noticed
it
and
it
needed
to
get
addressed,
and
we
wanted
to
talk
through
that.
N
L
So
it's
about
the
noise
issue
and
it
came
up
last
week
and
it
was
just
brought
up
again.
I
made
a
careful
review
of
the
draft
noise
study
and
it's
very
concerning
to
me
because
it
says
that
the
neighborhoods
that
are
closest
to
the
site,
which
are
mckinley
and
marshall
terrace,
already
have
noise
levels
high
above
most
of
the
areas
of
the
city
due
to
traffic
and
industry
and
the
hearing
it
right
now,
according
if
I'm
reading
this
correctly,
the
city
allows
a
new
entity
to
have
a
certain
level
higher
than
the
ambient
noise.
L
And
what
really
concerns
me
is.
These
neighborhoods
are
already
very
noisy
there's
times
when
I
can't
even
hear
myself
think
because
of
the
trucks
and
the
the
the
concrete
trucks
banging
the
concrete
and
all
that
so
they're
allowed
to
go
above
the
current
level.
Mckinley
deals
with
94
and
a
bunch
of
other
stuff.
L
That's
very
concerning
to
me,
so
we
don't
want
to
ignore
that,
because
once
this
venue
goes
in
it's
a
done
deal
so
apparently
there
are
ways
to
mitigate
with
walls
and
special
equipment,
and
but
I
think
we're
I'm
really
nervous
that
we're
going
forward
with
this
without
a
good
answer
for
the
noise
issues
and
it's
a
real
quality
of
life
issue
and
think
about
the
people
who
are
going
to
buy
houses
there
or
rent
there.
This
stands.
L
They
say
that
94
is
so
noisy
that
you
cannot
have
certain
concerts
at
this
venue,
including
classical
music,
because
it's
too
noisy.
So
if
the
neighborhood
is
already
that
noisy
and
we're
adding
rock
music,
I
don't
want
to
listen
to
a
concert
every
night
from
my
house
and
I'm
sure
other
people
don't
either.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
from
I'm
going
to
write
a
letter
based
on
the
draft
study
and
send
it
out
to
everybody.
I
can
think
of
that.
We
need
to
do
something
about
this
before
the
venue
is
built.
N
N
N
It's
the
one,
that's
posted
on
the
website
correct,
and
so
my
prop
my
proposal
is
that
we
would
be
bringing
hillary
to
borac.
If,
if
this
committee
was
willing
to
meet
in
early
january,
to
talk
through
noise
traffic
and
sort
of
the
process
and
and
the
preliminary
information
that
we've
got,
which
is
in
addition
to
what
you're
referring
to
and
so
that
you
can
talk
through
that
and.
L
N
And
I
will
say
that
the
what
I
had
requested
was
an
executive
summary
in
laypersons
terms,
because
I
think
that
the
study
is.
M
No,
I
think
my
question
or
my
comment
was
answered.
It
was
in
regards
to
the
forward
that
I
was
just
going
to
state
that
it.
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
it's
too
much
to
even
try
to
fit
into
the
forward.
To
me.
The
forward
is
kind
of
like
an
introductory
letter,
and
I
think
I
think,
having
a
separate
page
of
like
specific
cpc
motions
would
be
like
right
after
the
forward
would
be
probably
more
beneficial.
B
Okay,
can
we
have
a
vote,
roll
call
ancillary
for
having
a
separate
page.
O
D
I
N
Written
down,
thank
you.
The
motion
was
to
add
a
separate
page
after
the
forward.
That
includes
all
of
the
motions
that
were
approved
by
the
cpc.
A
Okay,
thanks
just
give
me
one
quick
second,
to
tell
you.
A
Okay,
thanks
everybody.
I
have
11
in
favor,
none
opposed
and
one
percent
abstained,
so
that
motion
passes.
Okay.
N
And
hillary,
this
might
be
for
you.
I
wanted
to
understand
from
a
timing
perspective,
given
that
this
is
out
for
public
comment.
Would
we
then
we
could
work
on
that
internally
within
the
cpc
and
then
and
then
include
it,
and
our
final
plan
that
goes
forward
in
at
the
end
of
january?
Is
that
correct.
B
A
Yeah,
that's
right.
We
could
have
that
definitely
teed
up
or
ready
to
go
to
committee
when
the
public
comment
goes
so
that
would
be
again
for
the
january
27th
meeting
meeting
packet
to
go
out
the
week
prior.
If
that
sounds
satisfactory,.
N
Is
there
still
any
work
to
be
done
on
the
forward,
because
I
originally
had
that
one
as
one
of
our
sort
of
to
do's
was
that
if
people
wanted
to
add
things
to
the
forward,
is
there
anything
you
would
like
to
add
to
the
forward?
Or
would
you
like
to
be
able
to
also
bring
those
points
up
in
the
forward
in
addition
to
having
it
in
the
motions
it's
up
to
you.
A
This
is
hillary
if
I
might
suggest
markella.
Let
me
know
if
this
sounds
okay
to
you,
that
if
people
have
additional
comments,
that
they
send
them
to
you
or
if
you
want
them
to
copy
me
and
you
so
then
there's
a
you
know
someone
that
can
help
keep
track
of
them.
Let
me
know.
D
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
You
know
I
was
going
to
address
mrs
mcguire's
comments
about
noise
abatement.
I
would
be
I
do.
I
think
it
is
appropriate
simply
as
the
design
for
the
amphitheater
goes
up
to
speak
to
the
issue
of
noise
abatement.
I
mean
it's
a
real
issue,
but
it
does
need
to
be
looked
at
and
examined
and
there
are
ways
to
mitigate
noise.
H
It's
just
they
haven't
done
it
before
they.
I
guarantee
you,
you
can
go
to
denver,
you
can
go
out
south
south
minneapolis
35
w.
They
put
noise
abatement
walls
all
along
35
w,
where,
where
a
little
more
upper
middle
class
people
live.
So
I
can
just
assure
you
that
could
really
be
something
that
we
should
look
at.
I
don't
want
to
ignore
it.
H
The
concert
everybody
knows
I'm
for
the
the
amphitheater,
but
I
also
believe
that
people
who
live
nearby
need
to
have
some
noise
abatement
mitigation
go
on
the
plan
so
that
it's
not
overlooked
and
I'm
sure
the
developers
can
do
that.
B
Thank
you,
mr
bill.
Marketer.
J
B
E
E
G
Yeah,
so
I
I
got
to
bring
it
back
and
I
hate
to
do
this,
but
I
asked
joanna
question
about
what
are
all
the
things
are
outstanding.
Her
list
included
about
eight
things.
I
think
someone
added
two
more,
but
we
didn't
get
to.
Is
the
plan
to
address
them,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear.
Are
we
going
to
talk
things
through
and
get
public
comments
and
address
them
all?
Then
I
don't
again.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
meet.
E
E
However,
if
we
were
thinking
of
meeting
in
january,
I
would
put
out
the
date
of
the
6th
of
january
as
a
date
that
we
would
meet,
but
I
also
I'm
sorry.
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
I
would
love
to
see
the
cpc
members
interact
with
these
community
engagement,
things
that
are
going
on,
because
it
would
help
to
have
cpc
input
when
there
are
people
from
the
community
making
comments
or
having
questions,
especially
the
mckinley
ones.
E
C
Okay,
you
know
I
planned
on
being
at
the
mckinley
as
resident
over
here
as
well,
so
I'll
be
there.
Okay,
okay,.
B
B
I
B
I
Just
a
real,
a
real
small
thing
about
how
we
might
get
ready
for
our
january
6th
meeting
is
maybe
joanna
if
you
could
send
out
those
like
eight
things
that
we
need,
and
that,
like
that,
we
need
to
discuss
like
we
need
to
finalize
or
and
like
you
know,
maybe
some
ideas
of
documents
and
then,
if
people
can
start
thinking
about
what
they
think
about
those
things
before
we
get
there,
I
mean.
Obviously
it
has
to
be
discussion
right
like
we're.
I
We
want
to
hear
other
people's
opinions,
but
I
at
least
personally,
I
think
that's
really
useful
to
like
know
what
we're
gonna
talk
about
in
the
issues
raised.
Think
through
it.
We
have
time.
I
don't
know
I
just
like
what
would
like
a
list
of
those
of
those
things
before
we
go
in
there,
so
I
can
be
like
prepared
mentally
physically
spiritually
prepared
to
discuss
all
that
stuff.
I
think
that'd
be
helpful,
just
a
written
list.
I
think
I
missed
some.
E
However,
if
we
can,
we
get
a
list
like
say
maybe
by
the
end
of
the
week
and
I
hate
to
put
anything
on
you
guys.
I
know
y'all
have
a
lot.
Can
we
get
a
list
of
the
points
that
have
not
been
completely
finalized
that
that
we,
as
a
committee
or
small
groups,
whatever
that
looks
like,
can,
can
maybe
meet
separately
and
work
on
those?
B
N
So
I
think
what
I
was
gonna.
Yes,
I
can
get
you
a
list.
I
think
my
question
is
number
one:
are
there
any
items
that
are
easy
wins
that
we
could
just
make
a
decision
on
tonight
like
things
like
if
we
just
added
another
person
to
the
selection
committee
from
outside
mckinley,
and
someone
could
tell
me
what
the
neighborhood
is
or
if
it's
two
people
could
we
could?
We
add
that
and-
and
just
you
know,
make
those
kind
of
quick
and
easy
suggestions
number
one
and
then
the
second
piece
would
be.
N
I
think,
on
these
harder
questions
and
I'm
thinking
specifically
about
the
housing
question.
I
feel
like
there's
a
a
pivot
point
that
we
kind
of
just
need
to
make
a
decision
about
which
is
we've
provided
additional
information.
N
I
think
I
would
like
to
hear
from
ms
shannon
whether
or
not
that
chart
reflects
what
she
was
hoping
to
have
and
then,
secondly,
do
we
feel
like
we
need
to
get
to
a
decision,
because
I
think
we
could
spend
another
three
hours
just
talking
about
it,
and
I
I
think
at
this
point
I'm
not
sure
what
other
information
I
don't
know
the
best
way
to
to
get
to
that
answer,
and
so
I
think
the
question
is:
does
the
community
still
want
to
have
a
recommendation?
And
if
so,
do
you
have
the
information?
N
And
are
we
just
at
a
point
where
you're
just
going
to
make
some
votes
or
not
votes?
I
I
just
I'm
not
sure
what
other
I
can.
I
can
give
you
information
on
a
list
of
what
the
issues
are,
but
I
know
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
more
information
is
forthcoming
on
that.
So
I
think
we
just
need
some
decisions
on
how
you
want
to
handle
that.
L
Oops,
I
just
want
to
note
that
january
6th
is
eastern
orthodox
christmas.
Oh.
D
L
A
I
do
have
a
question
and
I'll
just
just
a
quick
note,
so
the
committee
calendar
goes
by
city,
council,
calendar
or
the
city
calendar.
It's
not
marked
as
as
a
holiday
on
the
calendar,
so
I
don't
know
how
those
are
decided
exactly,
but
it
would
be.
You
know
we
could
have
a
committee
meeting
on
that
date
if
the
committee
so
chose.
So
we
can
keep
talking
about
that.
My
question
was
around
events.
Do
you?
I
don't
want
to
clutter
your
calendar.
A
I
would
say
there
are
just
a
handful
of
events
that
we're
talking
about
for
december
and
january,
meaning
those
outreach
and
engagement
events.
Would
it
be
helpful
to
you
all
if
I
sent
you
calendar
invites
to
those,
so
you
have
them
on
the
calendar
you
don't
have
to
accept,
but
just
so
that
is
that
a
helpful
way
to
track
them?
Let
me
know.
A
A
Five
potentially
five
calendar
things
between
december
and
january,
so
I'll
get
those
out
by
the
end
of
the
week.
H
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
well
be
long
before
mary
brought
up
the
holiday.
I
had
no
idea
of
that
as
a
holiday,
and
typically
I
like
to
respect
specific
holidays.
I
was
opposed
to
the
six
anyway.
Just
six
is
too
soon
after
new
year's
and
and
and
and
that's
a
lot
of
work
that
everybody
has
the
first
week
after
the
holidays
right
piled
up
on
their
desk,
so
we
could
be.
I
don't
have
to
be.
It
could
be
the
second
week
in
january.
B
For
me,
what
say
you
committee,
how
does
that
look
for
everybody
else
a
week
after
the
six,
so
six
or
seven
is
the
13th
that'll,
be
like
the
13th
of
the
14th.
B
H
I
I
A
J
A
Schroeder,
okay
I'll
circle
back
up
to
see
if
tenessa
tennessa,
green.
A
Okay,
she
may
have
stepped
away
that
is
11
in
favor
and
then
opposed
so
january.
A
I
was
trying
to
record
to
nessa's
vote.
It
wasn't
I'm
sorry,
so
were
you
in
favor,
yeah?
Okay,
thank
you!
That's
12!
In
favor
and
unopposed
january
13th
2021
people
is
the
next
meeting
date.
B
I
love
y'all,
but
that's
for
a
while.
That's
that's
all
of
the
agenda
items.
So
can
we
call
this
meeting
adjourned.
E
F
N
Well,
I'm
sorry
this
is
joanna.
Okay,
I
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
for
a
second.
I
just.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
to
establish
the
agenda
for
what
we're
going
to
do
on
the
13th.
So
there's
a
there's
some
discussion
about.
Are
we
having
a
conversation
about
aur
and
public
engagement
and
how
the
sort
of
noise
and
traffic
gets
handled
outside
of
the
cpc
process
and
what
what
will
happen?
A
It
could
be
an
a
separate
event.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
a
committee
meeting.
It
could
be
another
online
conversation.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that.
N
B
Excuse
me,
I
think
the
agenda
item
should
be
those
that
we
have
left
open,
that
we
haven't
finished
those
eight
items.
I
think
that's
what
we
should
start
with
on
that
day,
because
you'll
still
be
waiting
up
for
the
public
comments
won't
be
done
until
the
15th,
so
you'll
still
have
that
week
after
for
us
to
get
to
your
summary
from
that,
so
I
think
that
should
be
the
first
thing
we
should
probably
have
on
our
agenda
items
those
things
that
we
said
we
still
need
to
tackle.
H
To
make
an
assumption
that
the
housing
discussion
is
something
we
cannot
agree
it
and
I
I
understand-
we've
been
we've
been
quite
quite
argumented
if
you
won't
use
that
term,
but
we
have
waded
through
it
and
we've
ultimately
came
to
decisions.
H
So
I'm
not
ready
to
make
an
assumption
that
we
can't
have
a
housing
discussion
on
phase
two
without
coming
to
a
vote
or
consensus
or
some
recommendations
for
whoever
does
phase
two.
So
I
don't
think
there's
necessarily
a
long
night
if
we're
gonna
have
a
long
meeting
anyway-
and
mr
vanessa
made
another
point,
but
I
don't
I'm
really,
I'm
not
ready
to
say
we
can't
reach
again.
Most
of
us
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
a
third
or
third
or
third,
whatever
that
30
that
last
third
goal.
H
That
fourth
point
adds
doesn't
make
any
much
difference,
one
percent,
so
we
we've
already
agreed
upon
that.
The
real
question
becomes
of
the
idea
of
says
all
the
land's
going
to
be
rented.
Is
there
a
land,
trust
and
there's
their
land,
trust
that
can
accommodate
adolf
people
for
lack
of
a
better
term?
And
I
think
we
need
to
do
some
investigation,
because
I
hear
there
are
some
people
formulating
that
with
an
existing
land
trust,
whether
it's
common
bond
or
whatever,
I'm
not
sure
which
one
it
is
but
they're.
Creating
this.
H
This
land
trust
model
that
will
be
able
to
allow
people
to
own
their
homes
on
their
own,
their
homes
and
and
maybe
the
land
upon
them.
But
that's
a
that's
a
different
decision.
So
I
don't
think
that
we
can't
necessarily
get
through
a
tough
discussion
we've
gotten
through
before
and
if
we
have
to
we'll
just
grind
through
it
and
get
a
decision
made.
I
Grace,
I
was
just
wondering
if,
because
it
does
seem
like
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff
on
our
plate
for
the
18th.
If
we
wanted
to
follow
joanna's
suggestion
on.
If
there's
like
a
couple
things
we
can
vote
about
in
the
next
like
10
minutes
to
just
like
clear
those
for
that
or
if
we
were
not
because
I
know
there's
just
a
couple
of
things
that
you
thought.
B
I
C
My
comment
is
regarding
community
engagement.
I
know
we're
all
super
busy
and
hillary
did
that
awesome
letter
last
week
breaking
all
down
the
community
engagement
pieces,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
you
could
send
a
friendly
reminder
a
couple
of
days
before
an
event,
or
at
least
a
day
before
the
event
to
say
that
this
is
coming
up
and
allow
opportunity
for
cpc
members
to
be
there.
When
there's
you
know
different
interviews
or
whatever.
C
B
B
B
B
N
B
N
If
you,
if
you
want,
I
can
direct
you
to
the
correct
pages
in
the
plan,
which
I
am
spinning
through
immediately.
So
it
starts
on
page
83
of
the
plan,
which
was
the
housing
affordability
strategy
and
the
place
where
we
were
not
able
to
make
where
we
did
not
get.
A
vote
specifically
was
having
clarity
on
the
affordability
mix
for
parcel
1a,
which
would
be
the
senior
housing
essentially
the
option
between
which
is
shown
on
page
84..
N
So
for
1a
we
had
either
a
market
rate,
senior
co-op,
attainable
senior
senior
rental
or
a
mixed
income
senior
rental
option,
and
that
those
were
three
options
for
parcel
1a
that
we
laid
out
in
the
chart
that
had
both
affordability
as
well
as
estimated
ground
lease
payments
that
would
go
back
into
our
proposed
fund.
N
That
would
benefit
north
minneapolis,
anti-displacement
and
wealth
creation
initiatives
that
that's
our
recommendation
to
your
recommendation
to
the
council
and
then
the
second
option
was
options
for
parcel
7a,
which
was
market
rate
high
density,
which
was
the
big
tall
building
which
had
a
limited
amount
of
affordable
units
in
there,
but
the
highest
amount
of
ground
lease
payments.
N
The
market
rate,
medium
density,
meaning
more
of
a
wood,
construction
building,
so
a
fewer
number
of
units
and
then
a
mixed
income,
medium
density,
similar
size
building,
but
a
more
affordable
mix,
and
so
we
had
some
mix
and
match
discussions
about
those.
So
what
we
presented
was
some
options
so
that
people
could
create
scenarios
the
only
as
a
reminder.
H
What
am
I
responding
to?
Am
I
like?
Yes,
go
ahead,
mr
english,
I
want
to
go
to
parcel
seven,
which
is
the
is
that
the
hey.
H
M
Yeah,
sorry,
can
I
speak.
M
H
That
and
if
it
seems
to
me,
given
what
we
are
going
to
do
with
the
senior
housing
making
almost
none
of
it
market
rate,
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
trade-off
so
that
we
could
approve,
approve
the
the
senior
housing
and
apostle
7..
For
me,
that's
a
reasonable
trade-off.
If
we
want
to
end
up
that's
going
to
get
us
closer
to
the
third
third,
third
that
we
really
wanted.
E
Right-
and
I
will
also
just
piggyback
off
of
that
and
when
we
start
talking
about
you
know
I'm
all
for
the
ground
lease
payments
right,
because
that
goes
directly
into
displacement
in
programs
within
north
minneapolis.
Like
that
option,
the
market
rate
high
density
has
over
99
years,
32
million
dollars,
that's
circulating
back
into
the
community.
E
E
My
push
is
that
we
have
to
think
one
just
like
mr
english
said
having
this
be
like
a
third
or
third
or
third
like
we
want
right,
but
also
if
we
have
that
high
density
market
rate,
that's
a
ton
of
money
going
into
the
community
y'all,
and
I
don't
know
where
we
are
with
comments.
Okay,
I
don't
know
where
we
are
tenessa.
I
see
your
comment
joanna
did
you
have
a
comment
or
did
you.
O
I
think
that
we
keep
hitting
the
the
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
about
this
market
rate
building
against
the
land,
the
the
the
lease
payments,
and
I
don't
think
that
that's
really
a
fair
representation
of
the
issues.
It's
not
an
either
or
issue.
It's
really
about
to
me.
O
I
just
think
about
it
in
terms
of
you
know,
we're
doing
all
these
other
things
to
make
sure
that
there's
diversity,
economic
diversity,
ethnic
diversity
throughout
this
development,
but
we're
not
we're
we're
really
just
focusing
on
the
money
in
terms
of
this,
this
the
market
rate
building
and
we're
not
talking
about
who's
going
to
be
living
there,
and
I
think
about
how
I
would
feel
like
I
moved
into
this
neighborhood,
because
I,
like
you,
know
for
diversity
that
I
live
in
and
I
think
about
how
I
would
feel
if
there
was
a
high-rise
building
full
of
affluent
white
people.
O
Moving
next
to
me,
and
so
that's
the
issue
for
me
is
who
is
going
to
live
there,
and
I
think
you
know
we
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
don't.
We
have
a
lot
less
control
over
that
when
we're
talking
about
market
rate
housing.
O
O
O
And
if
you
don't
address
it
now,
then
we
can
pretty
much
assume
what
it's
going
to
look
like
and
and
that's
make
that
assumption.
E
No-
and
I
I
think
assuming
is
wrong-
I
we've
talked
about
how
we're
going
to
target
people
who
who
look
like
us
to
live
there.
We've
talked
about
this
miss
mckay
to
pass
the
motion,
the
last,
not
the
last
meeting,
but
the
meeting
before
about
making
sure
that
there
are
realtors
that
are
that
are
have
experience
getting
people
that
look
like
us
into
these
properties.
So
we've
we
we've
started
to
do
the
work
to
make
sure
that
there
are
people
who
look
like
us,
there's
black
folks
in
that
building.
E
So
we
can't
keep
assuming
that
it's
going
to
be
nothing,
but
at
some
point
we
have
to
trust
that
the
sorry
I
said
hey.
Actually,
I'm
not
sorry.
We
have
to
assume.
We
have
to
trust
that
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
and
the
things
that
we
put
into
motion
is
going
to
work
and
we're
going
to
get
people
that
look
like
us
in
that
building.
E
O
That
doesn't
get
it,
and
I-
and
I
know
that
that
doesn't
because
there's
nothing
there's
nothing
around
that
that
supports
that
long
term
and
there's
no
agreements,
there's
no
commitments,
you
know
there's
and-
and
it
actually
doesn't
even
really
guarantee
anything.
We
did
the
same
thing.
You
know
we
were
doing
the
same
thing
at
hennepin
county,
you
know
and
trying
to
you
know,
hire
black
real
estate
realtors
to
to
sell.
You
know
some
of
our
tax
refuted
properties.
O
It
doesn't
always
work
that
way.
So
I
don't
see
that
as
the
solution
and-
and
it's
not
about
assumptions
I
mean
you
can
all
you
have
to
do-
is
look
around
you
to
see
how
it
works
with
there's
nothing
else
in
place
to
prevent
it
happening
every
new
development
in
this
in
this
city,
almost
all
new
development,
especially
market
rate
housing.
O
E
O
I
don't
agree
with
you.
I
don't
think
that
that's
what
we're
doing
at
all
we're
not
trusting
the
city
to
do
a
darn
thing,
we're
actually
forcing
the
city
to
give
us
commitments
and
agreements
on
a
lot
of
things.
We
have
already
resolved
that
we
don't
trust
the
city
and
the
developer
and
the
partner
development
partners
to
just
do
these
things
on
their
own.
We're
actually
asking
for
firm
commitments
on
a
lot
of
things
from
the
tax.
You
know
increases
that
that
melissa's
been
you
know
asking
for.
O
For
you
know,
since
the
beginning
of
this
project,
I
mean
we're
asking
for
firm
commitments
on
certain
things,
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
unrealistic
to
to
think
that
if
we
don't
so,
you
have
a
market
rate
building.
O
So
I
don't
think
that
we're
trusting
the
city
to
do
anything,
we're
demanding
things
all
and
we've
been
demanding
commitments
all
along
the
way
and
those
commitments
are
we've
asking
for
those
things
to
be
a
part
of
the
plan
we're
asking
for
those
to
be
in
agreements.
B
O
Have
this
issue
either
they
were
actually.
Quite
there
was
actually
a
few
other
members.
They
were
concerned
about
it.
So
my
concern
is
not
about
whether
or
not
we
have
market
rate
housing.
It's
not
about
you
know
whether
or
not
we
should
do
the
the
the
the
the
deal
that
brings
in
the
most
revenue
to
the
community.
O
It's
not
about
that!
It's
really
about
it's
about
who
lives
in
that
space.
B
And
you
also
should
hold
them
accountable
for
entering
into
phase
one
phase,
two
phase:
three,
because
they
they'll
do
phase
one
and
won't
do
nothing
else
and
let
the
clock
run
out
and
don't
do
nothing
else.
So
you
should
also
have
something
in
place
to
ensure
that
all
of
the
phases
are
done
and
that
none
of
the
monies
that's
that's
ill
marked
for
this
project
be
spent
on
any
other
communities
other
than
that
project,
because
they
have
done
that
before.
A
My
only
comment
you
addressed
markella,
and
so
I
just
provided
the
actual
motion
from
november
18th.
So
I'll
read
it
since
I
had
put
in
the
chat
and
it's
in
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
18th.
The
motion
was:
we
recommend
the
united
properties
contract
with
an
realtor
to
help
fill
the
rental
and
ownership
housing
with
the
record
of,
and
I
quote
because
there's
quotation
marks
around
it
over
outreaching
people
who
have
been
displaced
right.
So
that
was
the
motion
that
was
approved
on
the
18th
and
it
passed.
H
There
are
a
couple
of
things
here
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
into
consideration.
H
First
of
all,
it's
never
about
trust,
it's
always
about
verify,
and
I
said
that
earlier
number
one
number
two,
I
am
not
pretty,
I
think
a
market.
First
of
all
people
there's
two
blocks
of
market
rate.
Housing
underdeveloped
right
now
are
being
developed
called
satori.
H
This
is
being
developed
on
broad
west
broadway
right
now,
that's
starting
soon
of
all
market
rate.
Now
I
am
really
my
concern
is
two
things
I
want.
I
want
this
place
to
look
like
north
minneapolis
not
ready
to.
I
know
that
if
there
was
a,
if
I
was
going
to
stay
in
in
the
state
in
the
city
I
mean
in
the
state
at
my
age
I
would
want
to
live
and
I
would
love
to
live
in
a
place
like
that.
H
Now
I
wouldn't
be
considered
low
income,
but
you
don't
want
to
concentrate
property
anymore
right
now.
North
minneapolis
has
the
highest
amount
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city,
the
highest
amount
in
the
city,
they're,
getting
ready
to
build
163,
affordable
units
in
on
the
off-broadway
pizza
site,
against
the
will
of
the
community
against
163
units
they
even
increased
the
height,
that's
already
been
approved
by
the
city
council.
H
H
H
I
hope
we're
not
saying
that
would
not
attract
anyone.
That's
black!
We
already
said
that
eight
percent
of
it
will
be
low
income
people.
So
I
I
really
do
think
it's
not
about
us.
It
is
about
verify.
We
do
need
to
pay
attention
to
it,
but
I'm
not
looking
for
a
concentration
of
more
poverty
in
one
place
and-
and
we
already
got
a
third
and
a
third
of
affordable
and
we
got
a
third
attainable
which
is
under
50
about
50,
ami
right,
third
and
thirty
percent
ami.
H
E
Thank
you,
mr
english.
Miss
melissa,
I'm
sorry.
C
My
question
is
regarding
7a
as
well
and
kind
of
going
off
to
nessa
tenessa.
What
do
you?
What
do
you
feel
would
be
a
comparable
ratio
and
to
brandon
is
there
you
know
to
meet
with
the
inclusionary
zoning
from
the
city?
Is
there
another
alternative
ratio
for
that
building?
Just
besides
the
90
10.,
you
know.
If
we
were
to
do
you
know
30
70,
you
know
to
get
a
few
more.
O
Can
I
answer
the
first
part
of
your
question,
which
was
directed
I
actually
am
not
proposing
that
we
make
it
affordable.
I've.
That's
never
been
my
proposal,
my
contr,
my
my
concern
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
space
is
that
that
building
is
diverse
and
I've
never
heard
anybody
say
anything
about
how
we
would
go
about
that
hiring
back.
Realtors
does
not
get
us
there.
I
already
know
that
doesn't
work.
O
It
can
be
one
part
of
the
solution,
but
it's
not
going
to
get
us
there,
and
so
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
this
being
a
market
rate
building.
That
is
not
the
issue.
It's
about
the
fact
that
it's
a
high
density
building-
and
we
are
talking
about
it-
could
potentially
be
another
gentrification
issue
for
that
particular
community.
C
Well,
maybe
then
we
need
to
set
parameters
on
how
we
are
going
to
create
this
path
of
success,
of
housing
resources
for
these
people
that
come.
You
know
what
what
does
it
mean
to
be
eligible?
You
know,
as
far
as
background,
how
are
we
determining
where
they
came
from
where
they
are
where
they
don't?
C
You
know
they're
before
the
old
north
siders
coming
back,
you
know,
maybe
that
particular
path-
and
I
don't
know
if
we're
stepping
on
toes
of
the
community
entity,
but
is
that
we're
going
back
to
that
of
of
of
the
path
of
this
resource
path?
C
E
But
I
think
that
we've
brought
this.
I
think
it's
just
thinking
of
motion.
We've
said
all
this
right.
We've
said
that
we're
targeting
people
who
used
to
live
here
that
got
displaced
by
the
tornado.
We've
said
all
this,
and
so
this
is
when
it
comes
down
to
okay.
We've
said
it:
let's
make
official
motion
that
we
want.
E
These
are
the
things
that
we
want
you
to
do
in
order
to
to
reach
people
that
we
want
in
that
building
like
we
keep
having
this
this
conversation,
if
the,
if
it's
not
an
issue
with
having
the
market
rate
and
it's
about
who
is
in
there
right,
that's
what
I'm
hearing
if
the
market
rate
is
not
the
issue,
it's
just.
How
do
we
get
people
in
there
that
look
like
us?
Well,
then,
we
just
need
to
set
that
and
have
have
it
be
emotion
that
this
is
what
we
want.
E
This
is
how
we
want
you
to
reach
people
even
in
the
meeting
with
the
attorney
this
afternoon.
It
was
we
can't
specifically
say
only
black
people
can
live
in
that
building.
We
cannot
say
that
right.
However,
there
there
is
ways
that
we
can
go
around
that
how
that
their,
how
their
marketing,
what
avenues
are
their
marketing?
Are
they
putting
in
the
star
tribune
or
are
they
going
through
inside
news?
Are
they
going
through
north
news?
Are
they
going
through
our
publications
to
to
reach
people,
or
are
they
going
through
the
I'm
sorry
yeah?
E
I'm
I'm
not
sorry.
Are
they
going
through
the
white
publications
right?
So
we
need
to
make
that
motion
y'all.
We
can't
keep
beating
around
the
bush
and
having
these
same
conversations,
if
this
is
what
y'all
want
to
see,
speak
that
and
make
a
motion
and
let's
pass
it,
it's
obviously
a
passionate,
passionate
place
that
we're
in
right,
where
we
want
to
see
our
people
within
this
development
period.
H
Well,
I
made
an
assumption.
That
was
a
mistake.
I
thought
vanessa
was
talking
about
affordable.
I
did
not
realize
she
was
not
talking
about.
I
thought
she
was
making
a
mark
about
more
affordable
or
attainable
within
that
and
attainable
is
in
the
50
60
ami,
that's
called
workforce
housing.
H
I
can
probably
bet
on
that,
and
so,
if
it
doesn't
get
public
subsidy
the
bill,
then
the
rates
are
going
to
be
comparable
with
who
can
pay,
but
I'm
not
prepared
to
say
that
it
should
not
be
targeted
at
at
african
adolph
people.
There
are
ways
a
specific
way
of
targeting
them.
It
should
be
marketed
to
them
and
it
could
be
recruiting.
I
mean,
there's
all
sorts
of
ways
of
promoting.
H
We
know
how
to
there
are
ways
in
which
we
know
that
it's
never
going
to
be
a
guarantee
that
you're
going
to
get
it
because
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
right
now,
liv
liver,
like
it'll
love
it
that's
a
whole
lot
of
people
want
to
get
out
of
north
minneapolis
because
they
try
to
hear
the
bullets
all
night
and
they
want
to
leave
they'll
go
anywhere.
They
some
of
them,
said
I'm
going
to
brooklyn
park.
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
any
place
better,
but
ain't
no
gunshots
going
after
every
night.
So
we
got.
H
We
really
have
an
issue
of
concern
and
it
is
not
about
none
of
us
opposing
each
other.
We
all
want
the
same
goal:
mixed
housing,
that
is
a
targeted,
a
majority
of
people
who
look
like
us,
because
we've
one
been
historically
discriminated
against.
So
I
apologize
to
my
colleague
for
making
an
assumption
about
what
she
meant
and
I
I
apologize
to
her
publicly
because
I
thought
she
meant
something
else.
That's.
E
All
I
want
to
say
thank
you.
I've
got
miss
makeda.
That
needs
to
make
a
comment.
Miss
joanna
wants
to
make
a
comment
and
miss
joanna.
When
you
make
your
comment,
can
you
also
talk
about
the
preference
poly
policy?
The
city
has
in
place.
E
Thank
you.
Miss
makeda.
J
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
a
short
comment
to
say
that
I
didn't
hear
what
I
heard
from
tenessa
and
the
benefit
of
having
this
community
be
so
diverse,
with
different
talents
and
different
experiences.
Is
that
the
details
is
where
we
get
in
trouble.
You
know,
and
so
I
know
it's
not
the
easy
answer
to
say
a
third
or
third
and
third
and
and
I
think
tenessa
is
just
trying
to
well.
J
She
knows
what
she's
trying
to
do,
but
for
me
I
take
it
and
she's
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
say
yes
to
something,
and
then
we
we're
really
frustrated.
You
know
five
years
from
now
when
we
see
it
look
way
different
from
what
we
have
planned,
and
so
I
know
it's
hard.
I
think
it's
hard,
because
we
don't
have
the
answer
like
it's
not
right
there
for
us
to.
You
know
we
can't
predict
it,
so
that
makes
us
passionate
and
a
little
frustrated,
but
that's
okay.
N
Thank
you.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way.
No,
we
we
haven't
talked
about
this
in
a
very
long
time,
but
the
city
preference
policy
that
the
city
passed
for
ownership-
and,
I
think,
is,
I
believe,
contemplating
and
and
planning
and
passing
in
2021
for
rental
housing
and
if
they've
done
it
already,
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
that.
N
But
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
possibility,
that
we
could
utilize
that
preference
policy
which
I
think
does
address
a
lot
of
the
displacement,
concerns
and
prioritization
that
that
this
committee
has
been
bringing
up
and
whether
or
not
we
would
be
able
to
make
a
recommendation
that
a
you
know
like
50
of
the
of
the
building
could
be
subject
to
that
preference
policy
which
for
the
for
7a,
so
that
we
would
have
a
mechanism
by
which
to
address
that
potentially.
N
So
that
was
a
preference
policy
that
I
can
try
to
put
in
the
chat.
If
I
can
make
my
computer
work
well,
but
it's
on
the
lim
system.
E
N
Like
you're
going
to
get
me
into
a
a
situation
that
I
don't
feel
comfortable
actually
saying,
I
think
that
I
believe
that
when
we
had
the
presentation
in
late
2019,
I
want
to
say
that
there
was
a
very
tight
and
detailed
process
in
terms
of
forming
this.
To
be
able
to
identify
this
and
eric.
You
might
be
able
to
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
better
than
me.
K
Okay,
we'll
get
you
the
preference
policy.
If
you
don't
have
it,
but
it
is
not.
It
is
not
race
specific.
It
is
people
who
have
been
displaced
from
either
the
location
and
there's
a
geographic
area
but
displaced
by
foreclosure
crisis
or
displacement
area
pressures
or
the
the
the
tornado
and
50
of
the
city's
homeownership
program
is
preference
to
those
folks
so
and
to
to
join
us
part
point:
we
have
not
completed
the
house,
the
rental
housing
one.
So
it's
just
the
ownership
piece.
K
E
A
So
go
ahead,
hillary.
My
quick
comment
was
again
I
unders
on
the
short
turn
around.
I
only
grabbed
the
draft
policy
from
the
august
12th
meeting
that
we
had
so
our
august
12
committee
meeting.
We
had
a
presentation
about
this
from
erica
coleman
with
cped
housing,
so
there's
the
draft
policy.
I
dropped
into
the
chat
again.
This
is
the
august
12th
meeting
so
refer
to
the
project
website
for
the
meeting
materials.
A
Anyone
that's
listening
and
then
also
at
that
same
time,
erica
had
provided
the
associated
changes
to
all
the
minneapolis
homes,
programs
for
ownership,
assistance,
etc.
So
those
are
the
two
pdfs
I
dropped
in
the
chat.
But
again
that
is
the
draft
policy,
not
the
final,
so
we'll
we'll
make
sure
to
get
that
to
you.
I
think
we
had
updated
you
verbally
at
one
point,
maybe
in
the
city
update
in
one
of
these
meetings
that
the
community
preference
policy
had
been
approved.
E
Gotcha
all
right
y'all,
I'm
gonna,
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
that
I'm
gonna
make
two.
I'm
gonna
start
with
this
preference
policy
because,
let's
face
it,
anyone
like
we
know
that
people
have
been,
who
have
been
displaced
from
the
tornado,
were
north
siders
and
probably
mostly
black,
and
then
we
also
know
that
when
it
comes
to
the
foreclosure
crisis,
our
people
were
affected
the
most
right,
so
that
that
to
me
is
a
concrete
way
that
we
can.
E
We
can
start
making
sure
that
we're
bringing
people
back
into
north,
who
have
been
here
before
so
I
make
the
recommendation
that
we,
the
preference
policy,
be
applied
to
all
of
the
housing
units
within
this
development,
with
the
understanding
that
the
rental
part
has
not
been
passed
yet.
But
that
is
being
talked
about.
G
Could
someone
just
did
someone
clarify,
so
your
your
point
is
the
preference
policy
that
we,
the
that
we've
seen
your
your
motion?
Is
you
want
to
have
that
preference
policy
applied
to
all
housing
options
in
phase
one
and
two.
C
E
E
E
G
Any
other
unintended
consequences
or
implications,
because
the
point
is
I'm
trying
to
I
just
you
you're
out
of
my
realm
of
understanding,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
know
if
there's
any
other
unintended
consequences
of
things
that
would
influence
how
I
think
about
that,
or
is
it
as
simple
as
just
applying
the
preference.
M
D
G
Yeah
my
my
question
is
I'm
trying
to
be
helpful
to
know
any
unintended
consequences
of
nuance
to
applying
the
preference
policy
that
I
just
do
because
in
theory
I
see
what
you're
saying
and
I
get
it,
but
I'm
also
not
close
enough
to
the
preference
policy
to
know
if
there's
something
in
there
that
might
that
might
create
an
unintended
consequence.
There's
another
point
in
there.
That
would
make
me
rethink
where
my
head's
at.
E
Right
so
I
guess
I
wanna,
so
it's
50
right,
so
there's
still
a
whole
another
50
that
wouldn't
fall
under
this
preference
policy
that
we
could
or
the
developers
whoever
could
intentionally
target
other
people
that
are
outside
of
that
preference
policy.
I
just
want
to
make.
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
that
correct
as
well-
and
I
don't
know
joanna
or
eric
yep
go
ahead.
Eric,
I
see
your
hand
yeah.
K
So
I
found
the
preference
policy,
but
the
committee
could
suggest
that
there
would
be
a
preference
policy
for
the
housing
that's
outside,
of
what
the
city
put
because
you'll
see.
That's
a
larger
it's
about
four
home
ownership
programs,
but
we
could.
We
could
entertain
a
preference
policy
for
this
coordinated
plan
for
the
rental.
Yes,.
E
K
Yeah,
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
talk
to
our
housing
for
our
colleagues
in
housing
and
how
to
write
it,
because
this
is
the
one
that
that
has
been
approved.
That
I
put
in
the
link
in
the
chat
is.
D
K
Home
ownership-
and
I
would
like
to-
but
you
know
there
would
be
naturally
be
like
a
cap
about
you.
You
could
put
a
preference
on
about
50
of
the
unit.
G
D
K
Rent
and
the
policies
that
we
have
are
for
the
city's
policies
they're
for
subsidized
units,
so
those
that
receive
housing,
trust
funds.
Other
you
know
low-income
housing,
tax
credits,
it's
possible
to
expand
that
preference
to
unsubsidize
as
well,
and
that
that'd
be
the
will
of
the
committee
here
and
talking
with
brandon.
K
K
Yeah
I
talked
to
brandon
and
and
why,
but
I
think
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
negotiate
brandon's
position,
but
I
think
that
that's
what
I've
heard
from
this
committee
since
the
beginning
is,
is
trying
to
find
preferences
to
get
people
from
the
north
side
or
who
have
been
displaced
some
access
to
this,
and
it's
not
just
for
the
to
the
unsubsidized,
the
the
quote:
unquote,
affordable
ones,
the
attainable
ones
as
well.
So.
E
M
Yeah.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah,
though
the
only
thing
I'm
just
trying
to
think
through
here
is
what
what
I
mean.
It's
with
the
housing
preference
policy.
There's
specific
criteria
around
like
income
eligibility.
You
know
the
household
sizes,
you
can't
you
can't.
If
it's
a
three
bedroom,
you
know
you
need
to
use
all
three
bedrooms,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
how
we
create
criteria
around
a
you
know
unrestricted
housing
unit.
M
E
E
M
M
E
Right
nessa.
O
Well,
yeah,
it
sounds
like
we're
going
to
need
to
table
this
discussion.
I
think
that
was
always.
My
concern
is
that,
with
the
market
rate
housing
there,
just
really
isn't
really
very
many
options
for
us
to
regulate.
You
know
who's
there
and
the
other
thing
that
we
we
I
just
am
reminded
of
is
that
on
the
home
ownership
side,
we
brought
that
we
had
started
having
a
discussion
about
that
last
week
about
you
know
the
fact
that
we
really
haven't
had
any
discussion
about.
O
You
know
the
homeownership
side
and
brandon
had
mentioned
that
they
were
in
some
prelim
very
preliminary
discussions
with
urban
homeworks
and
in
the
city,
lakes,
land,
trust,
and
we
had
some
strong
opinions
about
that,
and
so
I
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
passively
approving
that.
That's
something
that
I'd
like
to
bring
to
committee
to
talk
about
either
well
likely
on
the
13th.
O
So
anyway,
I
don't
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
seem
like
we're
gonna
be
able
to
get
through
this
tonight.
I
don't
think
that
there
are
anything
there
is
anything
that
we
can
really
legally
do
on
the
market
rate
side.
That
was
my
whole
point
in
the
first
place.
E
A
I
Thanks,
I
yeah,
I
think,
there's
this
is
an
important
thing
that
sounds
like
we'll
have
to
table
it,
but
just
some
I
mean
I
guess.
If
we're
tabling
the
motion
it
doesn't
matter,
I
was
like
I
guess
I
was
confused
because
you
said
like
all
of
all
of
the
housing
applied
and
also
50,
so
I
just
wasn't
sure
I've
been
trying
to
find
it
in
the
preference
policy.
Does
the
preference
policy
say
50
of
city
housing?
Are
we
saying
we're
applying
the
preference
policy
to
50
percent
of
the
house?
I
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like
is
the
50
within
the
preference
policy,
or
is
it
50
of
housing
units
are
applied
to
preference?
I
don't
really
care,
I
just
like
to
know
and
then
yeah
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
think
about
how
yeah
how
we
can
do
that
and
make
it
work
for
for
market
and
rental
and
make
sure
there's
also
ways
we
can
fill
it.
I
assume
that
there's
people
there,
but
I'm
also
concerned
that
it's
like
well.
We
couldn't
find
anyone
and
then
like
what
happens
after
that.
I
Right,
like
I
mean
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
here,
but
like
the
specific
demographic
of
people
who
have
been
displaced
in
north
minneapolis,
who
then
also
want
to
live
here,
like
I
don't
know,
I'd
just
like
to
hear
some
more
feasibility
on
like
if
we
can
get
that
filled
realistically
and
what
happens
if
you
know
maybe
that's
solved
by
it.
Being
50
of
the
units
are
eligible
to
end
yeah,
so
50,
where
is
it,
and
also
feasibility
of
getting
those
units
filled.
E
A
It
this
is
hillary.
Could
I
circle
back
to
what
I
was
looking
for?
Yeah?
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
note
that
in
the
pdf
that
eric
shared
and
I'll
make
sure
to
include
that
on
the
meeting
materials
for
this
meeting
on
the
website
that
that
states
that
it's
50
of
the
units
so
within
a
development,
so
units
that
will
have
preference
applied,
will
be
identified
at
the
time
of
enrollment
through
minneapolis
homes.
A
D
A
I
would
say
it's
three
pages
well
two
pages
and
then
a
little
bit
of
a
third
page.
So
I
would
have
you
read
through
that.
You
know
for
a
bedtime
reading
tonight
and
then
also.
A
Note
that
in
the
december
4th
sorry
I
mean
sorry,
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong
draft
coordinator.
A
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong
dated
draft
coordinated
plan
so
I'll
just
direct
you
to
the
you
know
the
project
values
section
where
it's
project
values
outcome
strategies,
the
affordable,
housing,
page
goal
number
four:
affordable
housing
does
have
reference
to
the
a
strategy
to
do
the
objective
objective.
Oh,
my
god
is
decreased
racial
disparity
and
housing,
cost
burdens
the
outcome,
being
reduction
and
cost
burdened
households
in
north
side
and
the
strategies
include
commit
to
implementing
the
minneapolis
housing
preference
policy
for
rental
and
ownership,
housing
and
prioritized
marketing
to
current
former
residents.
A
Number
four
is
in
the
next
box
of
strategies
provide
home
ownership
opportunities
that
are
affordable
to
current
northside
residents,
with
the
possibility
of
perpetual
affordability
offered
through,
and
it
says
a
land
trust
model
or,
oh
sorry,
I'm
sorry.
It
says
foursome
units.
But
what
I
wanted
to
note
was
in
discussions
with
cpet
housing
staff.
Cpet
housing
staff
have
been
looking
into
a
perpetual
affordability
model.
We'll
say
that
is
not
like.
You
know.
A
K
Okay,
so
from
a
land
trust
standpoint,
we
have
to
remember
that
this
property
is
owned
by
the
city,
so
that
the
city
would
be
your
land
trustee
and
because
the
city
owns
the
land,
we
can
apply
that
property
to
unsubsidized
units,
and
so
it
would
be
all
of
the
if,
if
the
city,
if
the,
if
the
committee
and
the
in
the
plan
went
to
basically
be
more
extensive
than
the
city's
policy
to
apply
to
market
rate
units
would
be,
it
would
be
fifty
percent
of
all
the
rich
market
rate
units
and
to
your
to
the
this
is
where
I
think
the
committee
has
been
talking
about
how
to
really
be
connected
around
realtors
real
estate
agents.
K
Marketing,
you
know
target
marketing.
Is
you
know
if,
if
you
can't
find
people
who
meet
the
qualifications,
then
by
all
means
they're
they're?
They
can
rent
to
people
that
aren't
you
know
that
don't
meet
those
qualifications,
but
it's
it
all,
really
comes
down
to
the
to
the
efforts
of
of
identifying
people
who
would
would
meet
that
preference.
But
that's
it's
all
the
units
and-
and
we
can
go
above
and
beyond
what's
down
in
the
city's
policy,
because
the
city
would
be
the
the
land
trustee.
C
Yeah
just
kind
of
piggy
back
in
a
little
bit
on
what
grace
was
saying
as
well
as
eric
you
know,
and
then
we
need
to
identify.
You
know
the
length
of
time
that
these
properties
can
be
held
as
well.
As
you
know.
How
early
can
you
create
a
waiting
list
of
you
know
reviewing
people
of
who's
even
eligible
before
the
completion
of
the
development
brandon,
but
yeah
I
mean
even
afterwards
after
development
is
open,
running
and
folks
are
moving
in.
You
know
what
these
recommendations
were
putting
into
place.
C
L
I
Yeah,
it's
just
super
quick.
Just
to
be
sure,
I
understood
you
correctly
eric,
so
if
there
was,
if
we
were
to
have
a
like
city,
operated
land,
trust,
sort
of
thing
for
the
site,
all
ownership
and
rental
units
would
be,
the
preference
policy
would
apply
to
all
of
those
all
units
on
the
site.
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
on
that.
K
Yeah,
well,
the
preference
policy.
What
I'm
saying
is
we
can
extend
it
past
it.
The
preference
policy
is
going
is
would
extend
to
subsidize
units
for
rental
right
when
it
gets
past,
but
you
could
do
a
preference
policy
for
all
of
the
units,
including
the
unsubsidized
units,
the
market
rate
units,
because
the
city
owns
the
land.
But
let's
just
remember
that,
that's
you
know
the
city
is
going
to
own
the
land.
That's
how
a
land
trust
would
work
in
general
as
they.
K
Help
with
the
you
know,
keep
the
cost
down,
but
it's
not
it's
we're
not
envisioning
selling
the
property
other
than
the
other
conveyances
we've
talked
about
at
length
in
the
past.
H
Okay-
I
I
I
don't
want
to
take
up
much
time,
but
I
think
what
I
heard
I
want
to
just
clarify
that
at
some
point,
if
the
market
rate
units
are
not
as
integrated,
let's
use
that
old-fashioned
term
as
we
want
it
to
be
that
then
all
money
gets
green.
That's
one
of
my
partners
saying
you:
can
you
can't
hold
them
open
forever?
H
If
there
are
people
who
want
to
move
into
it
and
you
have
not
met
your
50
target,
that's
just
the
reality.
Am
I
right
and
because
the
question
of
length
of
time
that
I
think
melissa
raised
is
is
is
is
real
for
anyone.
I
know
if
I
was
building
it.
It
would
be
the
same
thing,
so
I
I
guess.
I
really
need
to
know
that
at
some
point
you
should
target
it,
but
at
some
point
it
becomes
filling
it
up.
So
you
can
pass
on
some
of
that
money
to
the
community.
C
M
Typically,
it's
two
to
three
months.
I
believe,
okay.
M
I
mean
you
wanna,
you
wanna
ensure
that
your
your
delivery
dates
are
right,
because
obviously
people
are
gonna
move
in,
so
it's
it's
not
as
far
as
setting
up
waiting
lists
I'll.
Let
me
talk
to.
Let
me
talk
to
devin
on
that
and
see
how
he
handles
that.
But
I
know
that,
like
he'll,
open
his
sales
office,
typically
in
that
two
to
three
months
range.
N
Is
joanna,
I
think
I
took
a
bunch
of
notes
because
I
feel,
like
a
lot
of
questions,
were
asked
about
the
preference
policy,
so
I
think
that
maybe
what
we'll
do
is
come
back
with
in
our
list
of
items.
Some
answers,
as
well
as
the
open
questions.
Some
are,
you
know
summarized
like
either
it's
an
open
question
and
it's
currently
in
the
plan
and
here's
where
it
is
or
it's
an
open
question
and
here's
the
answer
to
the
questions
you
raised
here
and
we'll
get
that
thank.
A
Okay,
melissa
had
made
this
is
just
to
address
something.
Melissa
was
asking
about
earlier
about
the
I
guess
kind
of
the
media
presser
yesterday,
but
in
particular
the
engagement
with
insight
online,
and
so
I
wanted
to
address
that.
A
A
You
know
james
has
his
own
network,
and
so
he
was
able
to
help
connect
us,
and
that
was
in
the
span
of
a
couple
of
hours,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
you
know
that's
how
that
came
together,
and
so
that
said,
I
am
going
to
forward
those
events
as
calendar
invites,
so
you
all
know,
and
then
I'll
try
to
send
reminders
as
possible
to
without
cluttering
your
inbox,
and
so
we
have
our.
You
know:
agenda
items
coming
together
for
january,
hey
phil.
I
saw
that.
A
We
have
our
agenda
items
coming
together
for
the
13th,
so
I'll
work
with
markella
and
miss
vanessa
to
finalize
that
agenda,
and
as
always,
you
know
where
to
find
me
and
how
to
get
ahold
of
me.
If
you
have
questions
or
comments.