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From YouTube: April 22, 2020 Policy & Government Oversight Committee
Description
Minneapolis Policy & Government Oversight Committee Meeting
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B
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Lisa
bender
on
the
chair
of
the
policy
and
Government
Oversight
Committee
and
I'm,
going
to
call
to
order
our
regular
meeting
for
April
22nd
2020
I'll
note
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
from
council
members
and
city
staff
as
authorized
I'll.
Do
the
open,
Minnesota,
Open,
Meeting,
Law,
Section,
13
D
point
zero,
two
one
due
to
the
declared
state
of
local
public
health
emergency.
At
this
time,
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll
to
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum
council.
B
The
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
The
first
order
of
business
today
is
the
consent
agenda.
The
consent
agenda
includes
those
items
that
have
been
determined
to
be
matter
as
a
routine
business,
but
if
any
council
members
want
to
pull
any
items
off
for
discussion,
just
let
me
know
there
are
10
items
on
the
consent
agenda
today
and
I
will
be
pulling
item.
2
I'll
note
that
below
so
item
1
is
a
grant
application
to
the
Met
chemicals.
B
B
Item
4
is
authorization
of
a
contract
with
Lockridge
Grindle
now
and
for
found
lobbying
representation
from
April
1st
2020
through
April
through
March
31st
2021
item
5
is
approval
of
a
some
provisions
to
the
one
Minneapolis
fund
request
for
proposals
item
six
is
a
resolution
approving
an
increase
in
the
appropriation
and
revenue
for
the
cifra.
That's
the
school
program
to
address
the
addition
of
a
signal
system
and
match
the
final
scope
of
the
president's
bicycle
boulevard
program.
B
An
item
10
is
a
resolution
authorizing
rollover
funds
from
2019
to
2024
items
that
were
delayed
or
not
completed
during
the
2019
budget
year
for
several
operating
departments.
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
pull
item
2,
which
is
related
to
the
wage
freeze.
I
will
handle
that
separately.
Are
there
any
other
items
that
comes
members
wish
to
pull
off
from
today's
consent
agenda
ste
councillor
Gordon
would
like
to
speak
on
item
2,
so
I'll
hold
that
for
later
council.
Vice
president
Jenkins.
B
F
B
B
G
B
I
B
C
E
J
B
That
carries
and
those
nine
items
are
adopted.
That
returns
us
to
item
two
and
I
believe
this
was
that
mr.
Roth,
the
city
coordinator,
was
planning
to
begin
on
this
item,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
staff.
For
that
brief
description
of
this
item
I
know
mr.
Karle
that
you've
also
been
very
involved.
So
if
the
clerk's
office
has
had
things
to
start
with
our
ad,
please
feel
free.
D
President
bender,
this
is
Mark
Ross
to
the
coordinator.
The
item
in
front
of
you
is
a
wage
freeze
that
would
be
effective,
April
29th
for
three
categories
of
employees.
These
are
appointed
employees,
so
those
who
are
typically
department,
heads
or
division
leaders
within
the
enterprise,
the
second
being
unrepresented
employee
and
then
also
the
politically
appointed
employee
group.
D
So
this
wage
freeze
is
proposed
through
the
end
of
2021
and
has
been
discussed,
I
think
previously
at
Executive
Committee,
and
then
that
discussion
did
indicate
in
a
question
from
council
member
Johnson
that
we
potentially
could
the
economic
situation
improved.
Certainly
could
review
this
decision
early
in
2021
and
make
adjustments
I
think
the
majority
of
these
particular
categories
have
seen
a
cost-of-living
increase
earlier
in
2020,
and
so
this
is
affecting
step
increases
to
the
remainder
of
2021
I'm,
sorry
through
the
reindeer
2020
and
then
cost
of
living
and
wage
steps
through
2021.
B
So
I
just
appreciate
everyone's
work
on
that
I
just
want
to
sure
everyone
that
any
questions
about
that
kind
of
process
or
just
about
how
our
government
is
is
functioning
as
a
structure
and
not
about
how
well
we're
all
working
together
as
partners
in
this
work
and
have
appreciated
the
partnership
of
the
mayor
very
much
as
well
as
all
the
department
heads
who
are
helping
lead
us
through
this
time.
So
this
item
does
bring
up
some
of
those
structural
questions
and
I.
B
Don't
think
they're
all
completely
answered
as
of
right
now,
I
know,
Cubs
numbers
may
bring
up
some
questions
that
will
speak
to
some
of
those
process
pieces.
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
and
mr.
clerk
did
you
want
to
chime
in
because
we
did
adhere
both
rather
than
just
taking
up
the
wage
freeze.
This
resolution
does
include
both
the
wage
freeze
and
the
hiring
freeze
of
approval
of
both
of
those
pieces,
as
well
as
some
details
about
the
exemption
process.
B
A
A
The
piece
that
occurred
between
that
meeting
in
today's
meeting
was
my
office,
noting
that
there
was
also
a
hiring
freeze
that
was
intended
to
be
enacted
and,
following
previous
practice
from
2003
to
2008
in
such
matters
packaging,
those
together.
It's
a
resolution
so
that
there
was
an
ongoing
effect
to
those
desired
actions
initiated
by
the
mayor,
which
would
certainly
apply
during
this
local
declared
emergency,
but
have
ongoing
effect
through
the
remainder
of
the
year.
Certainly,
a
budgetary
impact
and
so
modeling.
A
Those
prior
actions
had
prepared
a
draft
resolution
that
would
not
only
accommodate
or
move
forward
the
proposed
freeze
on
wages,
but
would
also
incorporate
the
intended
freeze
on
hiring
and
worked
with
HR
to
cook.
Those
two
together
submitted
that
as
a
possible
substitute
action
for
this,
so
that
the
action
before
the
committee
and
going
forward
to
Council
at
the
recommendation
would
accommodate
both
the
wage
and
hiring
freezes
and,
as
you
noted,
allowing
a
process
for
any
waiver
exceptions
to
be
granted
to
the
hiring
freeze
for
critical
positions
during
that
period
of
time.
A
So
that
was
an
alternative,
not
part
of
the
agenda
and
certainly
not
what
was
forwarded
by
the
executive
committee
to
council
and
which
was
referred
by
Council
to
today's
meeting.
But
that
explains
the
the
alternative
action
that
was
discussed
with
some
council
members,
at
least
in
in
advance
of
today's
meeting.
So
that
would
explain
why
there
is
the
alternative
resolution
that
addresses
both
a
wage
and
a
hiring
freeze.
And
maybe
the
attorney
could
also
speak
to
that
and.
B
Mr.
Karle,
as
you're
describing
this
I'm,
realizing
that
the
substitute
of
course
was
not
in
linz
and
I'm
I'm,
realizing
I,
don't
think
it
was
sent
to
the
whole
City
Council.
So
I
will
apologize
for
that
and
go
ahead
and
forward.
The
resolution
that
the
clerk's
office
put
together
to
help
us
take
a
more
official
action
on
this
item
that
that
does
include
both
a
hiring
freeze
and
a
wage
freeze,
approval
of
the
City
Council
and
as
I'm
doing
that
I
will
go
ahead
and
see
if
mr.
B
K
Thank
You
council
president,
mrs.
Eric,
Nelson,
City,
Attorney's,
Office
KC,
stated
I
think
the
process
really
well
like
he
always
does
you
know
we
will
get
to
a
point
eventually
at
an
uncertain
point
when
this
emergency
ends
and
the
actions
that
are
contemplated
actions
that
have
a
much
longer
time
frame,
at
least
as
initially
thought
extending
to
the
end
of
this
year.
Potentially
you
know
then,
through
2021,
and
so
in
order
to
have
those
have
lasting
binding
effect.
It
does
require
counsel
and
per
mater,
and-
and
so
that's,
why
they're
being
brought
forward
today.
B
I
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
am
appreciate
all
the
work
that
went
into
bringing
this
forward
when
I
saw
that
the
hiring
freeze
was
included
in
it.
It
caused
me
to
think
back
to
when
we
lasted
a
hiring
freeze
when
I
was
here
and
I
also
had
an
opportunity
to
look
back
at
some
of
the
actions
that
were
taken
in
2003
as
well
as
2008
when
we
implemented
this
and
at
the
time
back
there
I
thought
that
the
process
we
had
in
place
for
waivers
was
was
pretty
opaque.
I
Maybe
now
that
we're
considering
it
again,
we
could
try
to
look
at
this
in
an
effort
to
be
more
transparent,
more
accountable
and
even
more
helpful
as
a
council.
In
making
these
difficult
decisions
about
when
to
do
a
hiring
freeze,
waiver
and
just
thinking
about
the
processes
processes
that
we
have
in
place
now,
I
thought
following
those
made
a
lot
of
sense,
and
this
seemed
like
an
appropriate
thing.
I
It's
a
personnel
issue
that
it
would
go
to
the
executive
committee
and
the
mayor
of
course
serves
on
that
as
well,
and
then
it
could
come
forward
to
the
council.
So
the
resolution
that
I
am
amendment
that
I
forwarded
to
the
resolution
would
replace
the
second
paragraph
after
the
now.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
section
about
departments
that
are
seeking
exemptions
from
the
hiring
freeze
and
would
add
this
new
paragraph,
it's
very
similar,
but
it
incorporates
a
bit
more
process,
including
it
going
before
the
executive
committee
and
maybe
just
for
the
public
record.
I
I'll
read
that
paragraph
and
as
I'm
reading
it
I'll
note
that
I'm
comfortable
moving
this
and
passing
it
today,
I
mean
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
But
if
my
colleagues
want
some
more
time,
I'm
also
comfortable
giving
us
until
Friday
when
to
move
it
again.
And,
of
course,
we
all
know,
even
if
we
passed
it
today,
there's
a
chance
to
take
another
look
at
it
on
Friday.
So
here's
the
new
paragraph
I'll,
just
read
it
out
loud
for
the
record.
That
departments
may
seek
an
exemption
to
the
hiring
freeze
for
critical
positions.
I
By
submitting
a
request
to
a
staff
committee
comprised
of
the
city
coordinator,
chief,
human
resources,
officer
and
chief
finance
officer,
the
staff
committee
shall
provide
its
findings
and
recommendations
to
the
executive
committee.
The
executive
committee
may
concur
in
the
staff
committee's
recommendations
or
submit
its
own
report
with
recommendations
for
final
determinations
by
the
City
Council,
and
so
that's
laying
out
a
new
process.
I
I
think
that
will
help
us
make
sure
that
this
is
a
little
bit
more
transparent
and
we
can
be
more
accountable
to
each
other
when
I,
say,
transparent,
I
mean
transparent
to
us
and
also
transparent
to
different
departments
throughout
the
city,
easy
for
them
to
track
and
understand
the
waiver
process
and
how
it
works,
and
also
to
the
general
public
I
think.
That's
that's
enough
said
for
me
now
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
and
listen
to
everybody
else's
comments.
B
B
Should
there
be
an
exception
process
and
then
what
what
path
should
it
follow
and
who
should
win
pay
and
should
it
be
just
after
event?
Should
it
be
policy
makers
and
then,
if
so,
which
policy
makers
and
what
process
so
just
to
outline
some
of
the
questions,
I
know
we'll
be
thinking
about
council.
Vice-President
changes.
E
Thank
you,
madam
president,
you
know
I
put
myself
in
queue
and
I
was
really
wanting
to
ask
a
question
about
item
number
one.
However,
I
do
support
comes
from
member
Gordon's,
amendment
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
do
need
to
have
a
little
more
process
around
the
behind
reen
exemptions
and
so
I
think
this
will
give
us
a
good
opportunity
to
to
be
able
to
have
some
oversight
in
that
process.
E
B
D
I
think
if
council
is
interested
in
the
deeper
dive
into
this
discussion
of
hiring
freeze,
my
recommendation
would
be
not
to
take
action
this
week.
Allow
human
resources
department
to
develop
a
full,
are
see
a
separate
these
issues
and
have
options
then,
and
some
conversations
individually
with
those
council
members
who
have
strong
feelings
about
this
I
think
the
action
the
clerk
had
proposed
was
was
something
that
was
akin
to
what
was
done
in
2008,
where
there
was
just
a
staff
process
and
some
notification-
and
you
know
I-
understand
councilmember
Gordon's
concerns
with
that.
D
J
Thank
you,
madam
president,
I
think
would
be
helpful.
Children.
Okay,
know
what
the
current
process
is
like
if
we've
had
some
of
these
exemptions
or
waivers
for
the
hiring
freeze,
go
through
be
good
to
know
kind
of
what's
happening
right
now.
If
we're
especially
if
we're
talking
about
kind
of
delaying,
can
be
good
to
know.
B
Thank
You
mr.
ruff,
did
you
wanna
see
to
that
I?
Think
a
number
of
counselors
had
questions
about
this,
because
department
heads
had
shared
with
them
that
they
were
waiting
to
hear
back
from
the
mayor's
office
about
decisions
about
current
decisions
about
hiring,
and
so
it
created
a
question
similar
to
the
one
that
councilmember
straighter
just
asked.
Sir.
D
Given
the
fact
that
we
are
an
emergency
declaration
period
which
I
think
as
the
clerk
and
the
city
attorney
mentioned,
this
proposed
resolution
would
go
potentially
beyond
that
period,
but
given
the
fact
that
we
are
an
emergency
declaration
process,
we
also
then,
after
the
decision
is
made
by
the
staff
committee
run
now
by
the
mayor's
office
to
date.
I
don't
know
that
the
mayor's
office
has
differed
from
the
staff
changes,
but
we
do
run
that
during
this
time.
L
B
So
I'm
cat,
smart
cunning,
Anna's
move
to
postpone
the
item.
I
think
I
think
perhaps
that's
the
intention
and
I
must
speak
for
you
customer
so
chime
in
is
to
postpone
the
hiring
freeze
portion,
but
perhaps
still
take
action
today
on
the
wage
freeze
portion.
Note
that
we
don't
have,
we
don't
have
a
resolution
prepared.
That
only
speaks
to
the
wage
freeze,
but
we
could
prepare
that
before
Friday's
council
meeting,
so
I'll
just
offer
that
as
a
as
a
comment
for
now
for
consideration
in
discussions
about
postponement
and
I
see
a
customer
cutting
em.
L
M
Thank
You
council
president
I
guess
before
we
think
about
delaying
I'd,
be
interested
to
know
the
status
of
these
requests
and
how
much
action
is
likely
to
be
taken
during
the
course
of
a
delay.
I
think
that
this
actually
is
a
really
important
conversation
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
voice
in
this
I
think
this
has
bigger
budget
implications
than.
B
D
I
B
D
B
Thank
you,
I
think
I
mean
I
just
need
the
obvious
concerning
that
customer
or
Fletcher
raised
that.
If
delaying
one
cycle
means
we
have,
you
know,
I
think
we're
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
how
many
FTEs
might
be
approved
have
been
approved,
already
might
be
approved
in
the
next
week
or
so,
as
we
formalize
this
process.
So
I
understand
the
total
number
isn't
available
today,
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
crux
of
the
questions
that
consumers
are
asking
because
I'm.
A
Madam
President
I'm,
sorry
to
jump
in
there
late.
If
I
heard
the
city
coordinator
mentioned
that
the
elections
office
is
one
of
the
major
ones
and
certainly
we
submitted
in
bulk
as
we
prepare
about
a
hundred
and
fifteen
days
or
so
before
the
August
11th
primary
and
a
special
Ward
six
election.
So
there
are
a
number
of
them
I'm.
Sorry
I,
don't
have
the
total
number
on
the
top
of
my
head
or
available.
A
That
would
obviously
be
fairly
substantial
impact,
both
in
terms
of
the
operation
of
that
election
and
the
budget
impact
and
I
can
certainly
submit
that
separately.
We
submitted
those
to
the
staff
committee.
So
it's
easy
for
me
to
go
through
my
email
box
and
pull
those
out
and
share.
If
that's
what
the
council
wishes.
I
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
calm,
I
guess,
as
I
said
earlier,
I'm
comfortable,
if
we
need
another
day
to
wait
and
look
at
this
again
on
Friday.
But
hearing
kind
of
all
this
evening
makes
me
a
little
more
concerned.
It
sounds
like
already.
The
staff
team
is
taking
it
to
the
mayor
for
review
and
I.
I
I
Could
you
give
us
more
time
to
respond
and
address
this,
because
it
wasn't
necessarily
their
recommendation
and
I
think
the
recommendation
was
to
sit
it
in
the
coordinators
office
and
even
though
it
was
three
people
who
would
review
them
the
to
report
to
the
coordinator,
so
that
had
one
set
of
eyes
that
would
look
at
it
and
that's
how
I
think
it
ended
up
being
in
the
past
and
it
wasn't
very
many
sets
of
eyes
and
then
we'd
hear
reports
about
it
later.
So
they
certainly
in
the
past
policies.
I
It
didn't
necessarily
even
go
to
the
mayor
for
a
review
but
I
think
if
it's
going
to
the
mayor
for
review.
Of
course,
it
should
also
go
to
council
leadership.
So
at
least
we
understand
the
extent
of
the
problem
a
little
bit.
What
happened
to
no
wait,
I
think
was,
we
acted
like
we
were
really
being
budget
Hawks
by
putting
in
a
freeze
to
hiring,
and
then
we
proceeded
basically
to
any
staff
department
that
wanted
to
be
able
to
get
a
waiver.
They
were
getting
the
waivers
and
it
after
a
while.
I
We
realized
that
we
weren't
even
having
much
about
impact
from
the
freeze
either.
So
we
should
I
think
be
serious
about
what
kind
of
impact
we
have,
and
maybe
some
of
us
will
want
to
influence
it
so
that
we
were
able
to
open
it
up
more
and
others
won't
I,
don't
know,
but
I
think
if
we
want
to
get
in
our
CA
and
look
at
it
later
in
a
few
more
weeks.
We
can
also
do
that
and
fix
it
and
change
it,
but
at
least
now
what
we're
looking
at
it.
I
We
could
set
the
policy
this
week
and
make
it
clear
and
maybe
even
make
it
clear
in
the
next
few
weeks
that
the
council
is
interested
and
also
hearing
about
these
having
a
chance
to
touch
the
memory
them
as
they
go
forward
and
with
executive
committee
in
the
council
meeting
weekly
I.
Don't
even
think
it's
going
to
create
much
of
a
delay
during
this
certain
time
period
and
then
later,
if
things
open
up,
when
we
go
back
to
our
old
structure,
we
could
maybe
deal
with
that.
I
Then,
if
the
worry
is
it's
gonna
take
too
long
having
an
be
referred
from
executive
through
the
council.
Those
are
just
some
of
my
initial
thoughts
and
I
would
be
happy
to
speak
with
mr.
ruff
more
about
why
I
think
this
is
so
serious
and
why
I
think
it's
such
a
detriment
to
the
city.
Cut
the
council
completely
out
of
the
hiring
waiver
process.
N
Thank
you,
madam
president,
I'm,
and
to
weigh
in
but
I
understand
where
councilmember
Gordon
is
coming
from,
because
last
time
around
there
were
many
exceptions
made
and
so,
and
we
didn't
even
know
about
it
and
it
kind
of
turned
into
who
could
lobby
who,
through
the
staff
process.
My
concern
about
this
process
is
it
puts
us
in
the
position
of
making
personnel
decisions
which
I
like
even
less
I.
What
I
the
only
thing
worse
than
lobbying
department
heads
is
having
department,
heads
and
staff
lobbyists
about
hiring
someone
so
I.
N
N
Those
were
emergencies
that
happen
due
to
events,
a
loss
in
local
government
aid
in
one
case
and
the
recession,
and
the
other
where
everyone
was
still
collectively
making
decisions
together
and
so
I
think
that
there's
a
little
bit
more
concern
about
the
council
not
being
involved,
and
we
say
that
there's
a
hiring
freeze
when
there's
really
not.
There
are
positions
like
the
CFO
that
I
would
guess.
Mr.
Roth
would
want
to
hire
immediately,
and
hopefully
we
would
agree
to
do
that.
N
But
as
we
put
pressure
on
staff
to
do
things,
especially
as
they
pertain
to
the
emergency,
we're
going
to
have
a
situation
where
staff
are
going
to
feel
pressured
to
perform
and
hiring
more
people
in
order
to
perform
to.
Our
expectation
is
one
way
to
do
that.
So
I
am
a
little
bit
of
two
minds
on
this
and
I
think
that
in
the
end,
giving
staff
a
little
bit
more
time
to
come
up
with
a
process
that
is,
is
recognizing
that
we
don't
want
to
see.
N
A
lot
of
waivers
might
be
a
compromise
and
I'm
I'm,
hesitant
to
take
us
out
of
the
string
and
put
staff
in
charge
of
waivers
completely.
But
when
I
hear
the
city
coordinators
say
he's
concerned
about
this
particular
situation,
I
pay
attention
and
so
I
can
see
where
councilmember
Gordon
was
coming
from
without
question.
There
was
no
transparency
last
time
and
I,
don't
think
we
want
that
kind
of
situation.
Where
there's
no
transparency
again,
we
think
we're
doing
something
when
in
fact
we're
not,
and
it
turns
into
lobbying
us
to
hire.
N
You
know
someone
in
the
Sanitation
Department
or
someone
who,
in
the
sidewalk
department,
I'm
not
really
qualified
to
make
that
determination.
So
I
I
support
what
councilmember
Gordon's
trying
to
do
in
spirit
and
maybe
just
with
a
little
bit
more
time.
Mr.
Ruffin
councilman
Gordon
can
come
to
a
place
where
our
concerns
about
not
us
not
having
any
involvement
can
be
addressed
and
everyone
can
be
happy.
That's
kind
of
my
point.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
You
councilmember
good,
a
minute
and
I'll
note
that
of
this
council
and
the
mayor
who's
in
office.
Now
only
three
council
members,
councilmember
Gordon,
Goodman
and
Reich-
have
been
in
office
in
a
time
when
there
was
a
past
hiring
freeze
or
a
recession,
and
the
kind
of
budget
trade-offs
that
we
will
be
facing
in
this
budget.
As
we
look
at
our
2020
budget
in
with
massively
declining
revenue,
as
well
as
beyond,
to
2021
in
2022,
so
appreciate
the
perspective
of
the
councilmembers,
who
have
an
institutional
knowledge,
I
see.
M
Thank
You,
council
president,
and
you
know
I,
think,
council,
members,
Gordon
and
Goodman
I
think
said
some
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
say
about
how
it
just
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
be
involved
in
the
decision
making
process
but
I
think
even
more
than
that.
This
points
to
a
general
direction
that
we
want
to
go
and
on
all
supported
delay
of
a
week.
I
think
it.
M
You
know
for
us
to
work
this
out
and
think
this
through,
and
you
know
if
the
executive
committee
meeting
every
other
week
isn't
often
enough,
and
we
want
to
think
about
you
know
in
in
Oh
8.
The
report
was
made
two
ways
and
means,
so
maybe
we
could
make
ways
and
means
the
the
place
that
this
comes
through
so
that
it
meets
regularly
in
the
in
the
current
structure,
but
I
think
more
than
anything
else.
M
What
concerns
me
more
is
the
idea
that
there
hasn't
been
something
formal,
that's
coming
through
that
there
was,
we
were
told
verbally,
there
was
some
email
about
a
hiring
freeze,
announcing
it
and
then
there's
already
a
process
in
place
and
applications
happening,
and
this
is
a
great
example
for
us
to
dig
in
on
because
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
because
I
agree
with
the
mayor's
action.
So
this
is
not
a
critique
of
the
mayor
at
all.
J
Commander
president
I
wanted
to
highlight
a
lot
of
the
points
that
to
come
over
Fletcher
I'm,
just
highlighted
I
think
it's
just
gonna
be
critical
that
we
are
making
these
decisions
in
a
transparent,
accountable
way.
I
think
the
one
additional
point
I'd
like
to
make
is
that
there
there
is
a
difference
between
kind
of
the
emergency,
as
we
were
in
about
a
month
ago,
when
we
had
to
make
very
big
decisions,
I'm
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time
and
we're
we're
in
now
where
we
have
a
little
bit
more
time.
J
It's
still
very
compressed
timeline.
I!
Don't
want
folks
to
think
that
you
know
we're
not
in
a
state
of
emergency,
but
it
is
something
that
we
can
incorporate
more
feedback
and
accountability
with
the
council
and
so
I
think
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
in
a
constant
state
of
panic
and
it's
okay
and
instead
really
looking
at
what
can
happen.
E
Thank
you,
madam
president.
Much
of
what
I
wanted
to
say
has
already
been
said.
I
was
not
an
elected
member
of
the
Council,
but
I
was
engaged
in
the
council
activities
and
oh
three
no.8
and
yeah
though
the
waivers
were
every
other
day
there
was
a
new
hire
and
and
people
were
just
really
confused
about
the
process
and
how
that
was
how
that
was
was
happening
and
and
I
I.
E
Think
in
this
situation,
given
the
budgetary
impact
that
that
you
know,
we
as
the
council
are,
are
going
to
be
a
held
accountable
for
that
we
should,
at
the
minimum,
have
awareness
of
these
exemptions
and
hires
and
and
I,
certainly
don't
want
to
get
into
the
position
of
determining
which
Public,
Works,
employee
or
applicant
should
be
hired
over
another
employee.
That's
absolutely
the
the
hiring
managers
decision,
but
exemptions
to
our
hiring
freeze,
I,
do
think
in
this
particular
time
needs
some
council
oversight
and
yeah.
E
B
I
wanted
to
reflect
that
I
think
just
some
themes
that
I
heard
and
my
own
perspective
I,
think
the
question
of
which
staff
would
would
be
exempted
from
the
hiring
freeze
has
implications
that
go
beyond
the
Kogan
pandemic
and
the
very
sort
of
narrow
specifics
of
the
public
health
emergency,
because
it
has
a
impact
on
our
overall
budget
and
I
think
we're
in
this
transition
time,
where
we
are,
of
course,
still
responding
and
will
be
for
quite
a
while
I
think
to
the
public
health
aspect
of
this
emergency,
but
we're
at
what
is
likely
the
beginning
of
a
very
long
financial
impact
to
our
economy
and
our
own
City
budget
as
well,
and
so
I.
B
But
I
think
when
I
hear
my
colleagues
saying
and
what
I'm
interested
in
is
making
sure
that
the
council
is
involved
in
helping
set
the
direction
for
which
priorities
will
be
elevated
when
when
and
if
we
have
to
make
difficult
decisions
about
budget
cuts.
How
the
council's
priorities
are
reflected
and-
and
we
haven't
started
to
have
the
conversations
yet
really,
even
with
the
council
members
who
would
likely
be
most
involved?
You
know,
customer
Fletcher
and
Palmisano
I
know
are
involved
in
some
conversations
by,
but
not
at
that
level
of
detail
at
all.
B
Yet
so
we're
moving
very
quickly
as
fast
as
we
can
to
mitigate
any
of
the
budget
impacts
and
I
know
some.
The
decisions
are
very
time-sensitive,
but
others
will
impact
our
city
potentially
for
years
to
come
and
that's
where
I
think
we
have
to
find
that
right.
Balance
of
engaging
the
council
in
those
long
term
policy
decisions
and
those
budget
decisions
that
are
in
our
purview,
you
have
even
under
the
state
of
emergency.
B
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
offer
and
I
just
want
to
offer
to
all
of
you
as
well.
My
colleagues
just
to
keep
following
up
about
some
of
these
questions
around
our
council
process
and
structure
and
how
it
how
it
manages
now,
under
the
emergency
declaration
and
I,
really
appreciate
everyone's
just
involvement
in
that
engagement
in
that
is
there
any
other
comments
on
this
item.
B
I'll
note
that
I
think
the
clerk
has
recommended
that
we
basically
divide
the
question
and
then
forward
four
with
a
recommendation
to
approve
the
wage
freeze
portion
on
Friday
at
the
City
Council
meeting
and
then
postpone
the
hiring
freeze
portion,
one
cycle
that
would
come
back
to
this
committee
next
Wednesday,
so
I
will
move
that
I
guess
as
a
substitute
to
come
for
our
Cunningham's
motion
earlier
I
just
clarified
with
the
clerk
that
that's
a
proper
motion
and
and
that
were
set
to
see.
If
there's
any
final
discussion.
B
G
C
C
C
B
B
Of
course,
I've
closed.
All
my
windows
is
now
and
I.
Don't
have
my
agenda
in
front
of
me
so
I
believe
that
completes
all
of
our
items.
I
will
I'm
hearing
from
the
clerk
that
that
is
the
end
of
our
agenda.
Thank
you
so
much
everyone
for
your
participation
today
without
objection.
I
will
adjourn
our
meeting.
Thank
you.