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A
And
what
I
think,
if
we
could
do
just
real
quick,
is
I'm
gonna?
Let's
just
do
some
real
quick
announcements,
I'm
dan
miller,
I'm
I'm
from
ward
one,
the
representative
ward,
one!
I'm
just
gonna
go
down
the
list
and
if
you
can
click
on
your
camera,
so
people
can
see
you
it'd
be
great
aaron
you're
up
next,
I
hope
he's
he's
still
figuring
it
out
how
about
deanna.
B
Hi,
it's
deanna
newman.
I
live
downtown.
A
Okay
and
wes,
durham.
E
H
Thank
you,
hi.
It's
matthew,
hendricks,
ward,
six,
representative,
okay,.
A
You're
on
mute
julie,
sorry
about
that
hi,
jerry's
hank,
here,
4-3,
okay,
cadence
hampton.
I
F
If
you
just
send
me
possibly
just
the
correct
name
that
you
have
now
I'll
try
to
update
it,
for
you
sure.
K
N
Jesse
thornson,
I
mean
the
mndot
agency
rep
and
pet
bike.
Planner.
A
A
P
Sorry
I
was
a
minute
late,
heather
gillick
from
the
minneapolis
health
department,
healthy
living
initiative,.
A
Doesn't
seem
to
be,
I
didn't
read
that
little
thing
about
recording
millicent.
Do
you
want
me
to
do
that.
A
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right,
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A
There
we
go
so
we
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
and
the
first
one
is
the
16th
avenue.
Excuse
me,
I'm
pulling
over
to
the
the
near
north,
safe
routes
to
school
presentation
with
forrest
hardy.
G
G
G
F
G
E
G
So
our
project
schedule
late
this
spring,
we
will
come,
come
up
with
a
concept
design,
a
final
recommended
concept,
design
and
move
forward
into
detailed
engineering
and
later
in
the
spring
and
summer
and
fall
this
year
and
then
next
year,
2022
during
the
summer
will
be
construction
existing
conditions
on
this
street.
G
G
Less
parking
demand
on
the
street
than
a
typical
minneapolis
block
project
goals
are
improved
safety
of
most
vulnerable
users
of
the
street
to
connect
three
schools
and
three
parks
address
safety
and
documented
crash
safety
on
a
documented
crash
concentration
corridor
and
then
to
fulfill
the
city's
goals,
including
the
vision,
zero
plan
of
eliminating
severe
and
fatal
injuries
by
2027.
G
G
G
It's
also
our
pedestrian
crash
concentration
corridors,
it's
defined
as
such
and
the
city's
2017
pet
crash
study,
so
the
portion
to
the
west
of
commons
park.
North
commons
park
is
generally
indicated
as
a
piston
crash
corridor
and
then
the
data
for
that
not
for
that
study,
but
to
pull
the
last
available
five
years
of
data
that
we
have.
We
see
four
pedestrian
crashes,
one
bicycle
crash
and
47
motor
vehicle
crashes
in
that
same
study
period.
G
Some
of
those
traffic
calming
devices
are
like
speed,
bumps
speed,
humps,
which
slow
down
traffic
to
our
designated
20
mile
an
hour
speeds
in
the
city
traffic
circles,
which
tend
to
slow
down
vehicles
at
the
intersection
themselves.
G
Chicanes
could
be
possible
either
painted
or
curb
raised
chicanes
traffic.
Diversion
like
you
see
here,
would
physically
move
traffic
off
of
the
off
of
using
this
street
and
allow
bicyclists
to
pass
through
and
then
in
our
major
streets
on
our
major
streets.
We
might
have
things
such
as
shelter,
medians
or
rapid
flash
beacons
to
help
fico
stand
pedestrians
across
those
major
street
gaps,
and
now
here's
kind
of
the
meat
of
the
matter
for
today
go
over
the
preliminary
concepts.
K
G
Three
of
them
today
all
seek
to
slow
vehicle
speeds
and
make
16th
avenue
north
more
suitable
to
walking
and
biking,
though
the
ideas
will
be
further
vetted
for
suitability,
suitability
and
access,
as
well
as
public
engagement
feedback
that
we'll
get
from
our
open
house
coming
up
on
the
24th
and
then
the
final
concept
later
on
this
spring
might
be
a
hybrid
of
these
three
concepts
that
we'll
talk
about
today.
G
G
For
the
most
part,
it's
following
our
basket
weave
pattern
of
stops,
although
we
do
have
a
lot
of
one-way
street
pairs,
that
kind
of
cut
this
up
a
little
bit
and
then
concept
a
is
showing
many
traffic
circles
near
the
school
just
west
of
fremont,
and
it
shows
several
curb
extensions
and
one
refuge
island
at
the
corner
of
north
carolina's
park
and
then
further
to
the
east
east
of
emerson,
close
to
the
whole
school.
G
You
see
a
traffic
circle
and
another
curb
extension.
I
believe
it
is
so
this
is
just
standard
items
out
of
our
tool.
Kit
traditionally
are
looking
towards
those
items
that
kind
of
deflect
deflect
speeds
from
the
corridor.
G
G
We
also
use
mini
traffic
circles
and
curb
extensions.
Like
concept
a
we
also
add
into
the
mix
rapid,
flash
beacon
at
fremont
avenue.
That
would
help
students
cross
that
fremont
avenue,
which
is
one
lane
southbound
street,
with
a
little
bit
better,
better
device
there
and
concept
c
it
takes
from
the
other
two
mixing
up
with
curb
extensions
and
many
traffic
circles
then
also
adds
in
this
traffic
diversion
between
north
commons
park
and
north
high.
G
That
would
physically
divert
vehicles
off
of
16th
avenue
and
would
hopefully
decrease
the
amount
of
vehicles
using
that
street,
though
we
don't
have
exact
numbers
on
the
amount
of
vehicles
using
the
street,
we
do
think
it's
an
advantage
to
decrease
the
volume
for
the
big
boulevard.
G
And
the
the
traffic
or
traffic
diversion
would
look
much
like
almost
like
a
trail
like
an
off
street
trail
in
this
area.
Via
a
curb
raised
trail
between
knox
and.
G
James,
so
there's
an
online
survey
up
right
now
for
generally
providing
feedback
on
the
existing
conditions.
Today,
as
soon
as
we
have
the
open
house
coming
up
on
the
24th
of
this
month,
we'll
add
the
survey
for
these
concepts
that
you
can
make
comments
on
each
of
those
concepts
and
submit
that
feedback
to
us
through
the
online
portal.
G
And
then
there
was
a
link
here
to
the
website
and
I'll
put
that
in
the
chat
of
this
meeting.
So
you
have
that
website
link
that
upload
upcoming
open
house
is
from
february
24th
from
6
to
7.
30.
it'll
run
more
like
a
traditional
standard
meeting,
where
we
do
a
presentation
at
six
o'clock
and
then
have
a
question
and
answer
session
afterwards,
but
we'll
be
online
until
7
30.
If
there
are
other
questions
that
people
have.
G
E
Are
you
proposing
any
bike
facility
at
all
I
mean
like
a
bike
boulevard.
You
showed
the
bike,
boulevard
amenities,
but
you
didn't
say
anything
about
it.
Being
a
bike
boulevard,
sure.
G
I
guess
that
was
kind
of
granted
that
would
it
would
be
a
bike
boulevard
facility
because
it's
on
the
triple
a
network,
so
it'll
be
strikers
at
like
boulevard.
B
Yeah,
I
you
know
it's
it's
not
on
your
map,
where
the
primary
access
is
to
the
north
high
school
and
where
their
buses
and
parent
drop
off
are,
and
I
mean
because
they
make
a
mess
of
things
at
the
beginning
and
end
of
every
day.
Yeah
curious.
Are
they
on
this
boulevard.
G
I
think
most
of
it
is
transit
vehicles
being
a
high
school.
Most
of
those
students
are
transported
by
transit
vehicles.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
main
door
is,
but
we
have
been
in
touch
with
our
transportation
folks
at
the
school
district
and
we'll
get
back
in
touch
with
them.
If
there's
a
need
to
engage
with
them
further.
A
Hey
forest
is:
what
is
this
just
starting
off
or
is
there
a
percent
of?
Is
this
just
a
rod
is
a
raw
concept
or.
G
This
is
the
second
time
we've
been
here,
so
we're
calling
this
fifteen
percent
it'll
likely
be
our
last
touch
point
for
before
moving
on
with
a
final
design.
G
A
And
I
wanted
to,
I
think
that
janice
had
brought
up.
Is
this
a
bicycle
boulevard
and
one
thing
when
I
was
reviewing
your
documents
and
thank
you
for
putting
them
online
for
us
was
the
bike
boulevard
toolkit
has
nothing
on
in
it
on
wayfinding,
and
I
you
know
we
know
that's
in
the
transportation
plan.
Maybe
it's
you
know
not
quite
happening
at
the
moment,
but
definitely
there
are
some
parts
that
talk
about
wayfinding.
A
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
thing
to
include
in
the
tool
kits,
so
we
have
some
idea
of
what
is
going
to
be
happening.
A
This
is
going
to
be
connecting
with
the
queen
bike
boulevard
and
that
goes
to
bassett
creek
on
one
end
and
all
the
way
up
to
42nd
and
the
other
way.
So,
there's
really
an
opportunity
here
to
help
people
understand
both
in
distances
to
major
intersections
and
two
major
features.
Just
how
far
away
that
stuff
is
and
for
it's
an
all
ages
and
abilities
network,
so
going
a
half
mile
might
be
a
big
deal
and
compared
across
the
whole
thing.
A
But
I
say
that
in
that
the
26th
avenue
trail,
the
great
northern
greenway
never
got
any
signage
at
all
on
it
and
we're
starting
to
build
a
system
here
in
the
western
part
of
the
north
side.
That
is
starting
to
connect
very
nicely
with
off
street
facilities
that
can
get
you
to
plymouth
to
theatreworth
park
the
bassett
creek
park.
A
P
D
H
Thanks,
of
course,
I
was
gonna
say
thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
don't
necessarily
have
a
lot
of
strong
into.
You
know,
opinions
about
the
granular
detail
of
you
know
which
treatment
at
which
intersection,
but
I
do
think
the
diversion
proposed
in
concept
c
that
would
connect
the
high
school
campus
to
the
park.
Immediately
adjacent
is
really
appealing,
and
you
know
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
that
the
school
that
my
kids
have
gone
to
is
just
a
block
from
where
we
live
and
it's
connected
to
a
park.
H
Similarly,
to
what
concept
c
is
proposing
and
it's
an
excellent
feature
for
a
park
and
a
school
to
share
a
campus
and
not
have
not
have
students
needing
to
cross
the
street
that
has
a
lot
of
traffic
in
order
to
access
the
park,
so
that
I
think,
would
be
a
you
know,
actually
a
really
exciting
upgrade
for
the
school
campus
and
for
the
north
commons
park
to
be
directly
connected
to
the
school.
That
way.
H
D
Yeah
I
want
to
respond
to
dan
wayfinding
comment.
Two
parts,
one
forest,
I
I
think
are:
are
we
planning
on
those
you
know,
white,
on
green
blade,
signs
that
we
typically
install
on
bike
boulevards?
I
I
could
see
I
could
see
one
you
know
like
pointing
you
know
to
emerson
fremont
and
then
you
know
directionally
to
downtown
or
yeah
for
the
you
know,
so
that
I
think
that's
one
simple
level
of
wayfinding
that
we
should
probably
consider
and
then
second
to
dan.
D
You
know
I
think
we've
talked
about
this
before,
but
you
know
we
have
a
city-wide
way-finding
plan
identified
in
the
transportation
action
plan.
I
don't
know
when
we're
going
to
take
that
on.
That
would
be
a
project
you
know,
and
I
just
I
don't
anticipate
that
we'll
do
much
more
robust
wayfinding
until
or
unless
that
is
finished
I
would
say,
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
keep
keep
bringing
it
up
because
we
we
do
need.
We
do
need
to
to
do
that,
but
I
just
want
to
provide
that
context.
M
Neldner
hi:
this
is
I'm
new
to
the
committee,
so
bear
with
me:
okay,
I'm
the
park
board
representative
on
the
staff
side,
so
just
curious
about
concept
c
and
thinking
through
like
emergency
vehicles
and
and
how
emergency
vehicles
would
access
the
high
school
or
the
park.
So
when
is
there
a
formula
or
something
the
city
uses
so
that
to
to
to
provide
the
neighborhood
or
certain
complexes
kind
of
assurance
that
access
wouldn't
be
impinged
upon.
M
Oh
so
just
be
like
neighborhood
like
I
know
me,
I
couldn't
drive
through
there.
G
Q
Yeah,
first
of
all,
forrest,
I
think
this
looks
great
and
thanks
so
much
for
the
work
on
it.
I
I
agree
that
the
diversion
idea
is
pretty
exciting
and
we've
got
some
good
examples
of
how
that
can
work
with
emergency
vehicles.
All
around
I
had
a
question
about
so
my
long-term
goal
and
hope
is
that
we
can
get
bike
boulevards
onto
our
snow
emergency
route
map
so
that
they
can
get
cleared
the
first
day
along
with
our
busiest
car
streets.
Q
D
See
I'll
jump
in
again
similar
robin
thanks
for
the
question
and
that's
also
in
tap
and
we
need
to.
D
We
need
to
do
it
so
specifically,
what
we've
identified
robin
what
you're
talking
about
is,
I
think
the
language
that
we
use
is
is
evaluate
how
we
can
ensure
that
our
neighborhood,
greenways
or
bike
boulevards
have
the
same
level
of
service
as
trails
so,
which
is
that
24-hour
period,
so
you
know
adding
adding
them
to
the
snow
emergency
system
could
be
one
way
you
know,
but
there
could
be
others
as
well,
but
it's
something
we
need
to
to
do
as
part
of
tap.
A
C
A
I
just
have
one
more
for
us,
and
that
is
I
you
know
I
I
think
sometimes
the
traffic
circles
work
really
well
when
they're
located,
where
you
can
see
the
next
one
from
the
one
you're
going
around
it
kind
of,
gives
you
a
sense
of
park
quality,
and
I
think
the
one
that
goes
up.
A
Sixth
sixth
street
northeast
is
a
perfect
example
of
how
that
works.
Well,
where
it
doesn't
work
well,
is
up
on,
I
think
27th
and
polk,
where
there's
just
one
of
them
all
by
itself,
that
who
knows
why
it's
sitting
there
and
the
other
piece.
The
other
question
I
want
so,
I
think,
having
multiples
of
them,
like
you
had
in
the
plan.
A
is
a
really
nice
way
to
soften
the
street
and
say
it's
somewhat
of
a
special
street.
A
It's
a
it's
just
physically
looks
different
and
it
could
potentially
keep
people
that
are
traveling
a
long
ways
away
or
across
to
keep
them
from
going
there
and
go
on
a
different
street.
A
The
other
thought,
though,
is
that
I
know
in
saint
paul
I
always
marvel
at
how
well
their
traffic
circles
look
and
some
traffic
circles
well
say
one
in
northeast
on
polk
street.
It
looks
like
a
a
planting
box
for
signs
signs
and
weeds,
and
so
I
was
wondering
what
is
how
are
traffic
circles
taken
care
of?
Is
it.
G
Usually
in
the
city
we
rely
on
neighborhood
involvement,
which
is
mixed.
I
mean
some,
we
use
our.
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
program
adopt
a
median
program
to
get
those
maintained,
but
they
were
kind
of
done
on
the
handshake
agreement
a
lot
time
a
lot
of
times
with
the
project,
but
more
recently
we
we
actually
used
the
adopt
a
median
to
get
people
signed
up
and.
K
G
A
waiver
and
everything
yeah,
so
it's
kind
of
mixed.
A
All
right,
jamie
you've
got
a
question.
M
Yeah
so
now
I'm
taking
a
look
at
the
maps,
so
all
of
the
scenarios
that
are
built
out
do
they
all
reduce
parking
on
16th
avenue.
M
I'm
thinking,
let
me
tell
you
what
I'm
thinking
about
just
off
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
is:
is
disability
access
to
those
amenities
on
the
south
side
of
the
park,
specifically
that
premier
ball
field
and
the
tennis
courts.
So,
though,
that
there's
just
some
intentionality
with
hardscapes
through
the
park
to
get
people
in
wheelchairs
to
those
amenities.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
parking.
G
Yeah
good
question
so
by
the
nature
of
this
type
of
bike
boulevard
we're
not
removing
parking
on
its
own.
We
might
look
at
some
of
the
treatment
types
like
the
curb
extensions
might
remove
some
parking
near
the
intersections,
but
no
we're
not.
We
don't
plan
on
removing
parking.
E
C
Yeah
question
about:
oh,
you
know
I'm
using
a
oh.
You.
A
So
one
last
question:
what's
gonna
happen
on
lindale
you've
got,
you
know
it
goes
over
to
lindale
and
I
know
there's
a
vision,
zero
project
that
is
supposed
to
happen.
But
how?
How
are
you
going
to
end
the
bike
boulevard?
There.
G
Currently
we're
just
entering
ending
at
aldrich
and
there
is
a
bridge
in
the
park
of
hall
park
that
goes
over
lindell,
so
we're
not
planning
on
making
any
direct
connection
to
that
future.
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you.
Forest.
G
I'd
say
this
is
a
place
for
a
resolution
would
might
be
useful
to
have
a
resolution
today.
H
A
Yeah
there
are
any
other
questions.
I've
got
a
question
and
that
to
this
is,
I
think,
there's
a
number
of
things
here
that
are
interesting.
Besides
the
diverter,
whether
they're
and
I
know
that
forest-
you
had
mentioned
that
it's
likely
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
amalgam
of
different
projects.
A
So
I'm
a
little
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
do
an
amendment
or
do
a
resolution.
Now
I'd
like
to
see
how
this
thing
turns
out-
and
you
know
part
part
of
that
is
talking
about
the
wayfinding
and
just
what
did
become
do
we
have
traffic
circles?
Do
we
have
a
the
flashers
are
really
interesting
thought
for
fremont
and
I'd
like
to
just
see
a
little
bit
more
detail
than
what
we
have.
A
E
A
H
K
Q
So
I
just
want
to
give
voice
to
philip's
question,
which
is
about
using
traffic
circles
as
infiltration,
I
think
he
means
of
water.
G
G
Traffic
circles,
the
traffic
circles,
so
I
guess
the
traffic
circles
are
usually
at
a
high
point.
You
know
the
center
of
the
intersection
is
kind
of
a
high
point.
So
that's
not
something
that
we
could
do
other
than
the
water
that
lands
in
the
circle,
but
the
curb
extensions
or
at
the
corners
they
could
be
used,
possibly
for
water
infiltration.
D
Maybe
fill
up
when
philip
and
maybe
in
a
future
meeting
or
the
full
meeting
when
he
has
his
mic
capabilities,
we
could.
We
could
talk
more
if
he
knows
so.
Some
good
good
examples,
but
I
I
agree.
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
a
a
much
different
construction
project
to
change
all
the
slopes
that
would
come
down
into.
G
Q
In
terms
of
the
motion,
I'll
just
say,
I
I
hear
matthew
not
necessarily
saying
pick
option
c.
I
hear
him
saying
more:
let's
that
the
diversion
is
definitely
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
in
the
final
thing,
and
so
maybe
let's
go
with
that,
and
if
there
are
ideas
for
other
stuff
that
we
want
to
specifically
name
that
we
want
in,
let's
maybe
add
them
to
a
list,
because
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
have
some
level
of
guidance
from
from
us
as
they
go
have
conversations
with
other
folks
about
like
that.
B
Yeah-
I
don't
know
you
may
have
resolved
this,
but
I
guess
I'm
hesitant
to
support
any
resolution
right
now
until
I,
until
I
get
see
more
collaboration
with
the
high
school
there,
I
think
that
they're,
a
major
player
and
their
circulation,
if
it
is
on
that
street,
is
a
big
deal
to
the
kind
of
diversions
that
we
put
in
they
they're.
They
could
be
backing
up
onto
that
street
with
their
buses.
They
could
be
backing
up
with
the
drop
off
during
rainy
days.
K
K
A
Can
somebody
give
me
an
idea
in
how
we
want
to
proceed
here?
Maybe
matthew
and.
H
Sure
so
I
think
my
motion
would
be
supportive
of
the
project
overall
supportive
of
the
diverter
at
north
high
and
north
commons
park
and
requesting
that
public
works
come
back
again
with
the
next
iteration
of
refinement
and
emphasizing
the
importance
of
wayfinding,
and
I
I
take
diana's
comment
to
heart
as
well,
that
my
understanding
of
the
high
school
is
that
their
primary
entrance
is
on
the
south
side
of
the
school.
H
So
it
would
be
the
opposite
side
of
the
block
as
the
diverter
and
and
high
schools
don't
get
very
many
of
their
students
to
school,
with
public
buses
or
with
yellow
buses.
They
use
the
public
bus
system.
So,
except
for
you
know,
potentially
events,
sporting
events,
there
shouldn't
be
too
much
yellow
bus
circulation
around
the
block.
There.
A
All
right,
we
had
a
second
you
agreeable
to
this
erin
yeah.
A
F
F
D
A
E
The
only
thing
I'll
say
dan
is
it's
not
clear
about
what
we
do
with
motions
and
subcommittees,
because
I
know
the
5e
subcommittee
tends
to
put
their
emotions
together
after
the
meeting,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
this
I
mean
we
have
ideas
about
emotion,
but
we
don't
have
specific
wording.
So
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
we
decide
that
the
I
mean
sounds
like
people
are
more
or
less
in
favor
so
but.
J
I
I
think
we
sort
of
want
to
avoid
just
doing
like
a
big
email
chain
with
all
of
it.
So,
typically,
what
we'll
do
is
is
we'll
get
draft
language.
We
know
that
it's
draft
and
we'll
bring
that
to
the
full
and
then
any
kind
of
editing
and
working
on
the
final
draft
would
happen
in
discussion
when
someone
kind
of
officially
moves
it
there.
Okay,
typically,
that's
how
we'll
do
it.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
thank
you
for
to
us.
Thank
you.
Okay,
all
righty!
Next
up
we
have
amy
morgan
and
with
14th
street.
I
don't
have
the
thing
in
front
of
me
so
I'll.
Let
you
take
over
amy.
L
Yeah
hi
everyone.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
amy
morgan,
I'm
an
associate
transportation
planner
with
the
transportation
planning
and
permit
division
of
public
works.
I'm
here
today
to
talk
about
the
pedestrian
safety
project
at
the
intersection
of
lasalle
and
west
14th
street
in
the
loring
park
neighborhood.
L
So
this
project
had
the
opportunity
to
move
up
a
few
years
in
rcip,
and
so
it's
a
newer
project
but
we're
still
trying
to
implement
this
year.
The
goal
of
this
project
is
to
implement
some
safety
improvements
at
this
intersection.
This
will
likely
be
curve.
Extensions,
upgraded
head
ramps,
really
the
goal
being
to
improve
the
environment
for
pedestrians
and
all
users
at
this
intersection.
L
So
those
who
may
not
be
familiar
this
lasalle
avenue
is
one
way
southbound
with
two
vehicular
lanes,
a
bike
lane
and
two
parking
lines
on
each
side
or
a
parking
lot
on
each
side.
That's
one
quarter.
You
have
emerson
school,
you
have
a
few
different
restaurants
and
businesses,
as
well
as
a
number
of
multi-family
residential
properties
nearby,
and
so
you
have
a
lot
of
uses
that
create
a
lot
of
pedestrian
activity.
L
L
This
intersection
we've
heard
from
the
council
office
as
well
as
community
members,
a
lot
of
concerns
about
safety,
particularly
at
this
intersection.
I
think
the
biggest
thing
that
we've
heard
is
in
terms
of
sight
lines
a
lot
of
challenges
there
I'll
note
that
in
2018
this
has
been
an
ongoing
safety
concern
for
a
while
back
in
2018,
we
actually
pulled
the
parking
back
from
the
intersection
to
improve
those
sight
lines
which
did
help,
but
of
course,
more
needs
to
be
done
so
quickly.
L
Just
looking
at
like
the
crash
data
over
the
last
three
years,
there's
been
a
total
of
29
crashes
at
this
intersection
alone,
over
a
quarter
of
which
have
resulted
in
injury.
So
we
know
that
making
safety
improvements
here
is
a
really
big
priority,
both
for
the
city
as
well
as
for
the
community
as
well.
So
the
goals
of
this
project,
as
I
mentioned,
is
to
increase
the
overall
safety
and
comfort
of
this
intersection
for
all
users.
L
So
briefly,
we
can
look
at
what
we
are.
Our
early
concepts
are
proposing.
You
can
see
here
the
existing
conditions,
it's
about
40
feet
curved
to
curb
on
lasalle.
As
I
mentioned,
two
travel
lanes,
bike
lane
and
two
parking
lanes
there.
The
goal
of
this
project
would
to
include
curb
extensions
at
each
of
these
corners.
These
would
range
from
five
feet
to
seven
feet,
depending
on
some
of
the
technical
analysis
that
we
are
doing
with
this,
we
would
also
be
upgrading
the
pedestrian
ramps
to
be
ada
compliant.
L
So,
although
this
is
not,
there
are
no
bike
elements
per
se
in
this
project,
it
does
align
with
a
bike.
L
A
A
One
thought
that
when
I
was
looking
at
this
earlier
today
was
that
I
don't,
I
usually
travel
on
15th,
so
I'm
not
real
real
familiar
with
this
particular
intersection,
but
I
don't
know
what
type
of
cross
traffic
goes
across
this
thing,
but
it
seems
that
cars
may
line
up
on
this
having
to
cross
this
at
a
little
bit
of
an
angle
looking
at
your
built
out
drawings,
and
that
might
be
good,
but
it
might
mean
that
they've
got
to
navigate
within
their
12-foot
lane.
A
While
you
know
traffic
is
coming
up
on
them,
I
it's
just
an
observation.
That's
that's
all.
L
Yep,
so
that's
something
that
we
are
still
looking
at:
making
sure
that
there's
that
the
the
taper
across
the
intersection
isn't
too
great.
So.
L
We
we
are
making
sure
that
it's
in
line
with
our
what
we
typically
do.
O
I
had
a
quick
question
that
I
don't
it's
more
of
a
hypothetical,
because
I
know
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
that
bike
route
and
no,
it's
very
unprotected,
but
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
any
chance,
you
might
be
able
to
swap
like
kind
of
create
a
protected
zone
there
for
the
cycling
cyclists
just
right
at
that
intersection.
O
L
Yep
I'll
say
that
there's
not
any
plans,
this
route
is
isn't
identified
as
a
triple
a
network.
It's
identified
as
a
connector
route.
Matthew
correct
me,
that's
incorrect,
but
I
believe
that's
accurate,
so
that
we
haven't
been
looking
at
that.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can
bring
back
and
discuss
with
the
team.
O
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
I
know
it's
not
a
protect
like
part
of
the
triple-a
I
just
know
like
with.
When
there's,
at
least
in
the
current
situation,
there
will
be
food
trucks
there
and
cars
waiting
to
cross
the
street
there
like
at
14th
and
then
there's
the
two
lanes
of
traffic
that
are
pretty
tightly
packed
together
too.
So,
if
you
could
it
could
it
kind.
K
O
In
two
ways,
I
think
it
would
help
establish
that
there
is
a
bike
lane
like
past
that
intersection
for
drivers,
but
then
it
would
also
give
pedestrians
that
extra
six
feet
of
lead
time
lead
distance.
A
I
Hi
thanks
amy.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
under
the
vision,
zero
changes.
Do
you
know
what
the
new
speed
limit
is
for
lasalle.
L
K
Hi
kyle
here
quick
question:
ar
are
you
planning
to
add
crosswalks?
I
don't
see
them
on
there.
Is
that
part
of
the
idea.
L
Generally
speaking,
this
intersection
would
not
qualify
for
crosswalks
because
it's
an
uncontrolled
intersection
so
likely.
The
answer
will
be
no,
but
it
is
something
that
we
are
discussing.
K
Okay,
another
follow-up.
Would
it
be
like
possible
to
add-
and
I'm
sorry
I
don't
know
what
these
are
called,
but
like
just
the
flashing
lights-
that
I
guess
notify
drivers
that
there's
pedestrians
entering
the
crosswalk
type
thing.
L
Yep,
I
think
the
way
that
this
project's
being
approached
is
first
looking
at
these
geometric
changes
to
the
intersection
and
then
from
there
evaluating
has
that
improved
the
safety.
Are
there
still
safety
concerns
at
this
intersection?
And
if,
if
that's
the
case,
then
stepping
up
to
that.
K
L
D
N
I
have
a
question
if,
if
the
intention
is
to
come
back
and
potentially
reevaluate
to
see
if
like
an
rfb
should
be
installed,
I
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
more
familiar
with
signals,
but
would
there
be
conduit
electrical
conduit
in
place
to
allow
that
to
happen
or
would
would
there
need
to
be
some
reconstruct
to
make
the
rfb
work.
L
That's
a
good
question.
I
don't
have
that
answer
specifically,
but
that
is
something
that
I
can
ask
the
team
to
see
what
that.
Realistically,
if
we
put
in
the
bump
outs
this
year
later
down
the
road
doing
evaluation
work
on
this,
seeing
that
an
rfb
would
be
helpful
at
this
intersection
would
that
be
feasible?
I
think
that's
a
really
great
question.
I
can
bring.
A
Back
just
have
one
more,
you
know
just
piggybacking
off
of
what
aaron
was
saying
about,
and
I
think
I
am
I
correct
aaron
that
you
were
asking
whether
say
the
sidewalk
bump
up
could
be
extended
into
the
bike
lane
and
somehow
you'd
go
up
over
that
something
that
would
look
like
a
curb
when
you
came
up
on
that
section.
Is
that
what
you
were
saying,
aaron.
D
Yeah,
it's
it's
a
protected
intersection.
Basically,
so
it
elevate
elevate,
the
bike
way
right,
you
know
shrink
the
crossing
more.
If,
if
I
may,
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
amy,
noting
that
you'd
bring
it
back,
but
I
one
thing
I'll
say
is
like
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
do
that
here
for
a
couple
reasons,
the
main
one,
I
think
is
design
and
timeline
this.
I
think
this
needs
to
be
fully
designed.
D
Like
I
don't
know
in
a
week
or
two,
you
know,
because
of
how
quickly
we
need
to
deliver
it,
and
then
second-
and
this
may
come
off
wrong,
but
I'm
gonna
say
it
anyway.
I
don't
know
that,
like
we
would
prioritize
that
investment
right
here,
we're
because
of
how
much
like
of
the
impact
that
would
be
versus
the
benefit
and
so
we're
you
know
we're
definitely
interested
in
in
protected
intersections
and
we'll
be
including
them
in
reconstructions,
and
you
know
our
bic,
28
or
protective
bikeway
program
and
things
like
that.
D
But
I
don't
anticipate
this
that
being
included
here,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
good
idea
and
it's
something
that
that
you'll
definitely
see
a
lot
more
starting.
You
know
now
on
hennepin
avenue
and
fourth
street,
and
things
like
that.
So.
A
I
would
just
see
that
bike
lane-
I
don't.
I
don't
ride
lasalle
in
this
section
much
I
usually
come
over
in
15th,
but
you
know
that
bike
lane
disappears
when
it
snows.
You
know
so
you're
out
in
that
lane
of
traffic,
and
that's
I
I
I
kind
of
thought
that
was
an
interesting
idea.
If
you
were
building
this
bump
out
at
this
time
that
this
might
be
a
way
to
just
narrow
that
down
to
the
two
two
lanes
and
have
some
protection
where
the
bicyclists
would
go
so.
H
Yeah,
I've
got
one
suggestion
that
I
think
probably
wouldn't
impact
cost
very
much
and
could
be
a
really
good
pilot
for
this
kind
of
a
treatment
where
it's
sort
of
a
you
know:
it's
not
a
major
arterial
but
there's
a
significant
amount
of
traffic
here,
and
that
would
be
to
narrow
down
to
a
nine
or
a
ten
foot
lane
on
lasalle,
so
that
you're
really
maximizing
the
effect
of
the
neck
down
there
and
and
hopefully
reducing
the
speeds.
H
You
know
as
much
as
possible
and
I
think
that
would
emphasize
the
bump
outs
and
the
pedestrians
so
right
now
it's
a
28
foot
opening
which
I'm
assuming
is
six
feet
for
the
bike
lane
and
then
two
12
foot
lanes.
But
I
think
that
would
be
great
to
see
it
as
like.
A
26
foot
crossing
distance
there
with
10
foot
drive
lanes.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion.
L
So
matthew
they
they
currently
are
10
foot
drag
lanes
for
the
eastern
most
lanes.
We
have
a
six
foot
bike,
lane
10
foot
drive
lane
and
then
it's
another
12
foot
lane,
which
is
a
10
foot
plus
two,
which
is
our
standard,
so
they
currently
are
10
foot.
I
would
love
to
narrow
it
more,
but
I
don't
think
that
is
feasible
kind
of
with
our.
D
I
think
I
think
that's
correct.
I
think
this
is
what
we
would
consider
to
be
as
low
as
we
would
go.
K
I
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
know
how
far
south
it
this
is
just
for
the
intersection
correct,
and
this
isn't
a
design
that
would
be
reflected
at
other
intersections
south
of.
I
Okay,
that
answers
my
question.
I
think
I'm
trying
to
formulate
just
an
idea.
This
corridor
is
challenging.
It's
it's
one
that
I've
used
quite
a
bit
for
commuting
and
the
nature
of
the
facility
changing
so
many
times
as
you're
you're,
headed
south
from
downtown,
I
think,
gets
sometimes
confusing
for
newer
riders,
but
also
for
drivers
who
who
don't
know
what
to
expect.
So
I
just
don't
know
you
know.
Looking
at
this
design
removed.
I
Context
of
you
know
like
about
a
half
mile
to
a
mile
on
either
side.
I
I'm
not
as
convinced
about
this
intervention,
and
I
guess
I
just
want
to
see
it
examined
in
conjunction
with
other
segments,
because,
like
aaron
said
when
you're
passing
lakes
and
legends
and
the
food
trucks,
it
gets
really
challenging
there
and
it's
pretty
impassable.
I
The
bike
lane
is
pretty
impassable
in
the
winter
and
you
usually
do
have
to
take
the
lane
which
the
facility
spits
you
into
the
lane.
Anyway,
as
you
approach
franklin,
so
I
I'm
just
curious
about
how
it's
going
to
interact
more
with
the
with
the
other
sections
of
lasalle.
R
Yes,
I
was
wondering-
and
I
apologize
if
this
was
already
addressed
earlier
and
I
missed
it
for
emerson
spanish
immersion
school
in
the
lower
corner.
What
is
the
approach
where
the
buses
come
in?
Is
that
is
that
on
14th
or
is
that
on
lasalle.
L
My
understanding,
which
I
have
a
meeting
later
this
week,
actually
with
the
principal
of
that
school,
my
understanding
is
that
there's
the
buses
around
14th
and
then
they
take
a
right
onto
lasalle
going
south.
So
that's
why,
realistically
that's
why
there's
not
a
curve
extension
here
to
allow
for
that
bus
movement.
R
L
If
you
guys
would
like
to
give
a
resolution,
that
would
be
great,
but
totally
up
to
you
guys,
I
I
don't.
I
think
this
is
more
of
a
since
there
aren't
any
bike
elements
to
the
project
more
of
an
fyi,
but
I
will
leave
that
to
your
committee.
A
A
Okay,
so
now
getting
back
to
that's
it
for
our
presentations
today
and
I
think
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
announcements
or
comments.
I
know
that
I
believe
that
jesse
had
something
he
may
want
to
share
with
us.
Jesse.
N
I'm
sure-
and
it
would
probably
be
helpful,
granted
the
position
I'm
in
if
you
could
help
me
help
kind
of
present
present
this
and
bring
it
up
to
the
group
more
so,
but
it
kind
of
came
came
to
my
attention.
Part
of
part
of
my
role
in
mndot
is
doing
development
reviews.
So
whenever
a
development
happens
along
one
of
our
corridors,
I
get
to
tell
them
how
awesome
they're
doing
at
penn
bike
infrastructure
and
awesome
sarcastic
and
one
that
came
to
my.
N
Attention
recently
was
the
was
it
the
south
maintenance
facility
along
hiawatha
and
28th.
I
think
it'd
be
best
dan.
I
think
you
have
a
lot
more
background
on
this
sort
of
facility
than
I
do,
but
it
did
come
to
my
attention.
I
thought
it
would
be
great
to
bring
it
up
to
the
group
because
there
are
some
bike,
lane
options
sort
of
being
pondered.
N
This
is
an
environmental
assessment
worksheet
at
this
point,
so
it's
going
along
the
process,
but
there
are
a
couple
bike:
lane
options
being
looked
at
on
28th.
It
looks
like,
and
in
general
there's
some
other
things
happening
with
this
facility
that
I
think
that
would
be.
A
This
has
been
a
rather
contentious
project,
the
phillips
neighborhood,
and
I
am
not
one
to
be
on
top
of
just
where
that's
been
going,
but
this
was
an
environmental
assessment,
multiple
several
hundred
pages
of
information
and
way
at
the
end
of
it
were
a
few
drawings
and
diagrams
showing
what
I
thought
was
kind
of
affecting
the
the
the
bike
lane
that
goes
up
to
the
bridge,
the
martin
sable
bridge
and
there's
a
fairly
large
350
space
parking
lot
that
I
think
the
parking
ramp
that
they're
looking
at
putting
up
adjacent
to
that.
A
J
No
thanks
for
flagging
it
jesse
and
dan,
and
basically
I'll
just
connect
with
the
project
manager
which
it
sounds
like
is
from
cped
hillary
devorak
and
then
see.
If
there's
any
other
people
in
public
works.
I
haven't
had
a
lot
of
hands-on
with
this.
I
don't
know
if
matthew
has,
and
so
it
seems
like
something
that
yeah,
especially
if
it's
affecting
the
public
right
away.
We
can
bring
that
to
those
folks
and
and
see
how
they
want
to
kind
of
proceed
with
this
group
and
how
you
all
can
comment
on
it.
J
And
one
last
thing
I'll
just
say
that
I
know
alyssa
is
not
on
the
call
and
she
also
said
something
about
potentially
getting
that,
maybe
more
from
her
kind
of
p
or
5e
role.
So
we
can
figure
out
like
what
makes
sense
from
an
engineering
standpoint.
And
then
I
know
you
mentioned
like
a
a
parking
thing
that
might
be
a
little
more
like
policy
oriented.
So
a
couple
of
things
to
figure
out,
but
thanks
for.
A
P
A
Urge
you
to
think
about
it
and
if
there's
anything
that
I
can
inform
you
with
being
the
sub-chair
on
the
last
two
years,
I'm
more
than
willing
to
do
that
offline
and
tell
you
what
I
know
about
it.
So.
But
I
encourage
you
to
think
about
it
because
it's
a
way
of
getting
a
little
deeper
into
the
whole
process.
A
Okay,
any
other
announcements.
C
On
the
hiawatha
thing,
I
was
just
going
to
ask
if
matthew
or
curse-
or
someone
maybe
remembers-
I
maybe
like
thinking
about
how
did
how
did
this
with
the
east
side
maintenance
facility?
Was
there
a
similar
like
moment
or
something
like
that?
I'm
just
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
helpful,
but
I
was
just
I
was
biking
there
the
other
day
and
I
was
like
I
don't
remember
that
I
like
didn't,
really
remember
that
that
was
happening
and
all
of
a
sudden
found
this
great
connection.
K
J
I
know
there
have
been
other
times
where,
like
minneapolis
city
of
minneapolis
buildings,
specifically
public
works,
buildings
have
have
come
in
front
of
the
the
bac
for
for
when
they
affect
like
the
right
of
way.
We
we
try
to
be
careful
with
like,
like
this,
isn't
a
development
review
committee
but,
like
I
think,
as
soon
as
it
goes
into
kind
of
the
public,
right-of-way
and
bike
connections,
then
that's
when
this
group,
that's
our
sweet
spot.
So
there's
there's
definitely
precedent
for
like
when
that
happens.
We
bring
those
types
of
projects
through
yeah.
D
The
east
side,
maintenance
facility
definitely
came
before
the
pacbac.
I
wonder
if
that
was
a
product
of
paul
miller
and
our
team
being
responsible
for
the
city
portion
of
of
it
on
27th.
I
think
that
was
the
focus
but
so
yeah,
I
guess
I'll
just
say.
Thanks
for
raising
this
and
chris
will
follow
up
and
see
if
we
can
get
more
info.
A
Okay,
all
right
going
once
we
we've
got
a
record
time
509.
So
let
me
cut
that
out
a
little
bit
thanks
for
being
here
folks.