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Great
victories
through
the
adoption
of
the
agenda
and
acceptance
of
minutes
great.
So
next
on
our
agenda
is
our
committee's
public
comment
opportunity.
The
advisory
committee
on
housing
sets
aside
10
minutes
on
each
of
our
agendas
to
hear
public
comments
from
non-committee
members.
We
ask
that
each
person
making
a
comment
try
to
keep
their
remarks
to
one
minute
and
all
comments
should
be
related
to
housing
issues
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
when
possible,
related
to
items
on
the
committee's
agenda.
For
this
meeting.
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P
So
through
that
process,
applications
are
either
processed
by
the
state,
the
county
or
the
city.
So
in
that
case,
because
of
the
way
the
federal
program
is
working,
there's
ability
to
spend
both
the
city's
allocation
and
some
of
the
county's
allocation
and
some
of
the
state's
allocation
in
minneapolis,
which
is
good
news
for
us
in
terms
of
having
enough
resources
to
try
to
to
meet
the
need.
That's
out
there.
So
in
minneapolis
we
are
really
increasing
our
pace
that
we're
doing
through
rent
help.
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Mn
we've
been
increasing
almost
double
month
over
month,
the
amounts
that
we're
getting
out
the
door.
So
as
of
about
a
week
ago,
we
had
in
minneapolis
alone
from
our
allocation.
So
not
all
the
minneapolis
renters
that
have
been
helped,
but
just
the
ones
that
our
minneapolis
money
has
helped
was
about
seven
million
dollars
just
on
the
rent,
help
mn
side.
So
we
are
still
getting
new
applications
and
all
the
time
trying
to
process
through
those
as
quickly
as
possible.
P
So
just
really
encourage
people
to
continue
to
apply
for
that
assistance
so
that
people
can
be
achieve
the
protection
that
still
exists
in
eviction
court
for
having
a
pending
application
and
while
we're
waiting
for
the
processing
to
happen
and
ultimately
to
get
that
background
paid.
So
folks
are
eligible
as
a
reminder
for
up
to
15
months
of
assistance
for
rent
and
utilities
soon
we'll
be
moving
into
the
second
phase
of
funding,
and
that
will
increase
that
amount
to
18
months,
which
will
be
helpful
for
some.
P
Some
people
who've
hit
that
cap
already,
so
we're
really
in
the
deep
in
the
implementation
phase.
At
this
point,
where
we
got
our
system
up
and
running,
and
it's
running
better
and
faster
all
the
time
and
trying
to
get
caught
up
with
the
influx
that
came
in
right
at
the
beginning
and
then
minneapolis
also
participates
in
the
zero
balance
project,
which
colleen
can
give
a
little
bit
of
an
update
on.
And
that
is
a
landlord-initiated
process
where
the
landlord
starts.
P
B
So,
as
andrew
said,
the
zero
balance
project
is
just
the
kind
of
flip
on
rent
help.
Men,
the
tenant,
initiates
the
application,
and
then
the
landlord
has
to
add
that
the
documents
afterwards
and
zero
balance
the
flip.
So
the
landlord
initiates
and
provides
all
as
many
documents
as
they
can,
including
the
lease
and
property
records.
And
then
the
tenant
has
to
still
do
their
income,
verification
and
then
there's
sort
of
a
test,
and
you
know
actively
participate
and
say
that
they
want
to
be
part
of
the
program.
B
The
most
of
the
average,
the
average
payment
amount
is
between
seven
and
eight
thousand
dollars
per
household
and
we're,
I
think,
proud
to
say,
we've
been
moving
applications
through
pretty
quickly.
So
I
think
our
at
this
point.
Our
average
time
from
submission
to
approved
is
about
two
days
and
we
are
issuing
checks
within
about
two
days
after
the
approval
so
trying
to
get
money
out
the
door
pretty
quickly
and
get
those
approvals
done
and
then,
in
you
know
just
recently,
and
I
think
it
was,
I
think
it
was
late
september.
B
The
us
treasury
provided
addition,
new
guidance
to
states
and
cities
and
local
municipalities
around
the
country
to
encourage
faster
spent
expenditure
of
these
dollars,
and
you
know
express,
I
think,
great
frustration
with
really
most
of
the
states
being
both
the
states
and
cities
and
counties
being
slower
than
what
they
wanted
in
terms
of
expending.
So
they
provided
guidance
to
try
to
make
the
application
process
faster,
and
so
we've
implemented
most
of
those
guidelines,
so
that
includes
proxy
zip
codes.
B
So
targeting
so,
we've
been
targeting
the
23
zip
codes
in
the
region
that
have
average
income
that's
at
or
below
50
area
area,
median
income.
That
means,
if
you
live
in
that
income.
If
you
live
in
one
of
those
zip
codes,
a
renter
does
not
have
to
submit
income
documentation.
They
still
do
need
to
attest
that.
In
fact,
their
income
meets
the
guidelines,
but
they
don't
have
to
upload
any
particular
documentation.
For
that.
B
We've
also
been
allowing
tenants
to
verbally
attest
to
their
income
qualification
to
one
of
our
reviewers,
and
then
the
reviewer
can
provide
that
documentation
that
they
have
heard
that
so,
rather
than
requiring
an
attestation
that
is
written
down
and
then
uploaded
which
can
again
be
a
barrier,
they
can
just
do
it.
Over
the
phone
we've
tried
to
simplify
the
application
language
just
to
make
it
easier
to
read
and
more
understandable,
and
then
we,
I
think,
pretty
early
on
to
implement
a
perspective
rent
feature.
B
So
people
can
apply
not
just
for
background,
but
also
for
three
months
of
perspective,
and
then
we
added
a
feature
that,
once
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
applied
for
three
rents
of
three
months
of
perspective
in
july,
you'd
be
coming
up
at
the
end
of
those
three
months,
and
so
those
households
receive
an
automatic
email
prompt
asking
if
they
want
to
request
an
additional
three
months,
and
so
that's
not
quite
automated.
They
still
have
to
do
some
things,
but
it's
you
know
intended
to
be
pretty.
B
Hopefully,
pretty
easy
and
so
we're
seeing
by
and
large
people
generally
taking
that
up
and
and
requesting
the
additional
three
months
to
move
forward
again.
So
again,
I
would
just
say
echo
exactly
what
andrea
said
that
you
know
anyone.
If
you
know
anyone,
if
you
yourself
need
rental
assistance
need
help.
Please
do
apply
because
it
is
a
really
significant
resource.
There
is
still
a
lot
of
money
available
and
you
know
the
intent
is
to
stabilize
houses,
households
stabilize
homes
and
housing,
so
please
do
apply
or
share
the
information
with
others.
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F
The
process
itself
is
complex,
so
it
takes
a
little
bit
more
time
to
process
it
from
our
end,
especially
when
there's
a
language
barrier
and
help.
You
know
the
community
to
understand
the
process
and
the
documents
that
we
need
and
get
the
engagement
from
the
landlord.
So
we're
we're
going
performing
a
little
bit
better.
That's
for
sure.
C
I,
as
a
housing
provider,
I'll
say
I've
gone
through
two
of
these
and
the
last
one,
which
was
a
couple
weeks
ago,
was
extremely
seamless,
very
quick
approvals
and
received
the
money
very
quickly
to
alleviate
the
the
burden
that
this
person
had.
So
I
I've
been
through
several
cycles
of
this
going
back
a
year
and
it's
it's
very
smooth.
Just
compliments.
P
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K
Yeah
that
was
actually
I
was
kind
of
well
along
the
same
lines.
I
was
curious
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
missed
this
colleen,
you
talked
about
the
the
like
shifts
to
do
like
the
you
call
them
proxy
zip
codes.
Is
that
something
that
that
rent
help
mn
can
do
as
well
or
is
doing
as
well
already
doing?
Can
you
just
speak
to
that?
Sorry
and
sorry.
If
you've
already
said.
P
Yeah,
no,
we
didn't
so
red
help.
Men
has
also
has
also
taken
up
that
guidance
and
has
made
some
recent
changes
to
the
application
to
make
that
so
we,
I
would
say
that,
on
the
processing
side
of
minneapolis,
we
started
accepting
those
proxy
zip
codes,
but
it
took
a
little
while
for
the
technology
to
catch
up
to
the
for
the
application
to
be
updated
for
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
intuitive
that
that's
what
you
can
do
and
that
you
can
rely
on
that.
P
So
those
updates
there
have
been
some
updates
made
there
and
continuing
to
try
to
make
that
process.
Minnesota
housing
drives
that
part
of
it
that
updates
the
application,
but
we
are
continuing
both
through
the
application
and
then
through
our
processing
side,
to
try
to
incorporate
all
of
the
flexibility
that
treasury
is
giving
us,
as
new
guidance
comes
out.
L
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands,
so
I
might
just
move
us
to
the
next
piece
since
it's
related
and
we
were
just
gonna,
make
sure
everyone
on
the
call
was
kind
of
up
to
speed
with
where
we're
at
with
the
off-ramp.
I
know
this
has
been
talked
about,
probably
in
a
lot
of
our
spaces,
but
as
of
october
12th,
tuesday,
all
of
the
protections
of
the
off-ramp
have
expired,
except
for
which
I
think
colleen
referenced
earlier
eviction.
Cases
only
for
non-payment
of
rent
should
not
be
filed
or
and
cannot
proceed.
D
L
The
tenant
has
a
pending
rent,
a
pending
application
through
one
of
the
based
assistance
programs,
and
that
is
not
my
dog,
but
I'm
not
sure
someone
else
just
not
that
it
matters,
but
somebody's
maybe
got
some
barking
going
on.
Just
fine
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
kind
of
knew
where
we're
at
I'll
share.
You
know
as
a
as
a
tenant
attorney
at
legal
aid.
L
The
way
that
this
last
piece
is
being
talked
about
is
that
if,
if
a
tenant
or
a
family
has
a
pending
application,
then
they
cannot
be
evicted,
that's
sort
of
legally
true
or
that's
how
it
should
work.
But
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
defaults,
meaning
a
lot
of
folks
not
showing
up
for
court,
and
so
there
is
some
concern
that
people
think
that
if
you
have
that
pending
application,
then
you
don't
need
to
go
to
court
and
you
still.
L
But
unfortunately,
if
you
don't
show
up
for
court
and
the
landlord
doesn't
know,
you
have
submitted
an
application
or
doesn't
share
that
with
the
court.
The
court
has
no
way
of
knowing
that
it's
not
like,
they
are
getting
they're,
not
at
this
point
getting
that
information
from
you
know
minnesota
housing
or
different
agencies.
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
for
folks
who
are
you
know,
generating
messaging
or
or
talking
with
folks
who
might
be,
you
know,
have
an
eviction
filing
or
a
pending
application
that
folks
still
need
to
come
to
court
in
order
to
kind
of
assert
that
they
have
that
application
pending
and
to
truly
be
protected
from
that
eviction
case.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
Another
thing:
that's
happening
in
hennepin,
county
housing,
courts.
L
If
we
have
a
client
there,
if
you
have,
you
know
somebody
there
to
talk
to
so
just
get
that
message
out,
even
though
you
should
be
protected
under
the
law.
It
is
only
only
applies
to
non-payment
of
rent
cases,
not
for
reach
of
least
cases
or
hold
over
cases,
and
you
still
need
to
show
up
for
court
if
you
are
facing
an
eviction.
E
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
are
just
overwhelmed
myself.
I
had
covet
and
pneumonia,
and
so
I
was
overwhelmed
with
you
know.
What
do
I
do?
You
know?
How
do
I,
you
know
stay
up
rest
on
my
rent
or
what
have
you
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
and
I
would
be
open
to
doing
that
through
one
family,
one
community.
So
if
you
you
know
would
like
to
get
that
information,
anybody
on
this
line
would
like
to
get
information
to
the
community.
E
I
would
be
grateful
to
set
up
some
zoom
or
some
in-person
meeting
six
feet,
social,
distancing
and
mask,
of
course,
but
just
you
know,
30
minutes
or
so
of
information
to
communities,
because
I
think
that
that's
very
important
is
so
that
they
can
have
some
engagement
and
just
some
information
so
that
they
will
be
more
informed
about
how
they
can
get
some
help.
Thank
you
and
I'll,
refuse
myself.
L
Thanks
queen,
this
is
this
is
joey
speaking,
but
I
I
or
one
of
my
colleagues
would
be
more
than
happy
to
come
to
you
know,
whatever
you
set
up,
whether
it's
virtual
or
in
person
to
give
some
that
legal
advice
and
information
for
tenants.
So
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
and
anyone
else
in
this
group
who,
you
might
think
would
be
helpful.
P
Can
I
just
add
to
queen
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
too
we
have
housing
assistance,
navigators
that
we've
contracted
with
at
the
city
that
can
also
participate
in
that
kind
of
an
event.
I
know
charlotte
from
mps
recently
had
an
event,
and
we
connected
her
with
some
of
our
navigators
who
were
able
to
come
and
give
information
about
how
to
do
the
application
itself
as
well.
So
I'd
be
happy
to
make
that
connection
and
also.
E
E
Residents
will
come
in
to
find
out
about
that
information
because
they
call
I
get
at
least
30
to
40
calls
a
day
about
help
with
rent
or
I'm
being
evicted,
and
so
it
would
be
wonderful
to
have
some
sort
of
something
to
give
the
people
in
this
area
and
and
I'm
over
north,
and
I
I'm
sure
they
would
greatly
appreciate
it
as
I
do
right
now.
Thank
you.
A
K
L
Just
over
the
past
week,
or
so
so,
there's
15
to
20
cases
on
each
calendar,
each
kind
of
group
calendar-
and
it's
been
anywhere
from
like
two
to
five
out
of
those
15
to
20
families.
Every
day,
there's
been
like
two
to
five
families
who
didn't
show
up,
and
we
don't
know
right,
it's
possible
that
they
moved
out
and
they
just
decided
to
move
out
and
move.
D
L
There
are,
in
some
cases,
legal
steps
that
we
can
take
to
stay
the
rich
to
get
the
rip
paused,
if
that,
if
they
do
indeed
have
a
pending
application
and
they
should
be
getting
that
protection,
but
it's
really
hard
and
if
that's
the
case,
we
need
to
act
really
fast
and
it
can
be
hard
to
reach
people.
So
it's
obviously
much
much
better,
if
at
all
possible,
for
people
to
just
show
up.
L
O
Yes,
I'm
here:
okay,
thanks
very
much!
Yes,
the
right
to
council
ordinance
did
pass
the
council
last
cycle,
it
passed
unanimously
and
we
will
now
just
be
having
conversations
as
part
of
the
2022
budget,
and
you
know
the
arpa
federal
funding
to
make
sure
that
we
actually
put
the
money
where
the
council's
mouth
was.
L
L
Spaces,
I've
been
in
and
others
for
some
they're,
just
making
sure
people
know
about
the
election.
Coming
up.
Sorry,
I'm
struggling
to
find
my
words,
but
there's
election
coming
up,
as
we
all
know,
and
there's
some
housing,
there's
the
rent,
stabilization
charter,
amendment
on
the
ballot
and,
of
course,
the
city
council,
members
and
the
mayor.
So
I
just
we
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
and
I'm
not
sure.
L
I
think
the
city
has
a
pretty
good
website
for
voting
information,
but
obviously
with
covet
and
everything,
even
just
how
we
vote
looks
a
little
bit
different
for
a
lot
of
people,
but
there
it
will
be.
My
understanding
is
there
is
in
person
voting,
but
there's
also,
you
can
request
an
absentee
ballot.
I
think
the
recommendation
I
think
I
saw
was
do
that
a
couple
weeks
before
the
election,
so
for
folks
who
are
wanting
to
request
that
it's
probably
good
to
get
that
request
in
now
and
then
there's
also
early
in-person
voting.
E
E
L
All
right,
so
I
think
that's
it
for
updates
and
then,
where
our
two
discussion
items
for
today
are
finishing
our
youth
homelessness
discussion
from
last
meeting
and
again,
I
want
to
apologize
that
we
weren't
able
to
finish
that
or
have
real
time
for
discussion
on
that
at
our
september
meeting.
So
we'll
start
with
that
and
then
afterward
we
will
have
that
conversation
about
the
budget,
so
I'm
not
sure
who's
gonna,
where
we
left
off
or
who's
taking
it
over,
but.
K
L
L
K
K
If
I
share
my
screen
okay,
so
I
I
work
for
minneapolis,
public
schools,
I'm
the
homeless
and
highly
mobile
manager,
and
I
thought
what
I
would
do
with
our
time
today
is
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
seeing
at
mps
with
our
students
experiencing
homelessness,
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
and
then
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
stable
home,
stable
schools,
which
is
an
initiative,
a
housing
initiative
that
we
have.
So
let
me
just
share
my
screen
here.
K
K
I
will
just
a
caveat
here:
is
almost
all
districts
saw
a
major
decrease
in
their
number
of
students
identifies
during
covet
and
distance
learning
in
part,
we
think
because
of
the
eviction
moratorium
and
in
part,
because
we
were
missing
students
because
of
the
distance
learning
so
and
it's
very
hard
to
say
how
much
is
each
of
those
categories,
so
we
were
typically
around
at
our
highest.
We've
been
up
closer
to
like
10
of
our
student
body,
with
an
experience
of
homelessness
in
the
given
year.
K
More
recently,
it's
been
more
like
seven
or
six,
and
now
this
is
the
lowest
we've
seen
in
quite
a
while
at
4.4
a
couple
things
I
would
point
out.
You
can
see
the
two
different
numbers
here,
so
this
blue
circle,
with
the
like
about
2
400,
that
that
includes
all
the
students
that
we
identify.
So
we
work
in
the
shelters.
K
I
have
a
team
of
people
that
office
out
of
people
serving
people
and
regularly
are
connecting
with
mary's
place
and
other
shelters,
and
so
we
touch
students
that
might
not
be
mps
enrolled,
but
are
experiencing
homelessness.
So
we
do
track
that.
So
that's
the
blue
number
minneapolis
public
schools
enrolled
students
is
that
yellow
number
there
so
about
1500
students
that
we
identified
last
year.
K
A
couple
other
things
that
I
would
point
out.
If
you
look
at
the
race
and
ethnicity,
definitely
a
disproportionate
impact
on
our
black
and
indigenous
students.
In
particular,
you
know
I
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
all
a
long
history
of
racist
housing
practices,
kind
of
got
us
to
where
we
are
today,
but
that
we
definitely
see
that
disproportionality
in
our
in
our
rates
every
year.
K
So
I
think
that's
also,
I
think
lots
of
different
factors,
but
one
is
during
a
pandemic.
People
did
not
want
to
go
to
congregate,
setting,
shelters
and
main
stayed
in
doubled
up
situations,
maybe
longer
than
they
would
have.
Otherwise,
I'm
going
to
pause
here
for
any
any
questions
on
the
data
on
these
numbers.
A
K
K
K
I
also
wanted
to
just
compare
sort
of
like
at
this
time
of
year
october
and
show
you
what
we're
seeing
so
these
numbers
here
compare
the
week
of
october,
8th
from
the
2019-20
school
year
last
school
year,
and
then
what
we're
seeing
this
school
year
and
so
you'll
see
that
major
dip
during
our
year
of
distance
learning,
and
then
you
can
see
that
it's
starting
to
come
back
up.
So
just
for
your
information,
we
are
starting
to
see
numbers
rise,
a
bit,
it's
very
hard,
there's
so
much.
K
We
don't
know
about
how
the
eviction
moratorium,
lifting
is
going
to
play
out.
There's
a
lot
of
unknowns
and
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
for
us
academically
too.
We
didn't
get
academic
measures
on
a
lot
of
our
students
last
year
during
distance
learning.
So
I
think
we're
gonna
be
learning
a
lot
about
the
impact
over
time.
K
Just
a
really
quick,
all
all
students
experiencing
homelessness
are
covered
by
the
federal
mckinney-vento
law,
which
maintains
that
a
student
experiencing
homelessness
has
the
same
right
to
education
as
a
stably
house
student.
So
there
are
rights
that
follow
that
student,
regardless
of
what
school
they're
in
and
some
of
those
rights
include
being
able
to
attend
the
same
school
that
they
attended
before
they
became
homeless.
So
that
means
a
lot
of
transportation
across
cities
across
district
boundaries
to
maintain
that
stability
for
the
student.
K
So
if
it's
in
the
student's
best
interest
to
stay,
it
doesn't
matter
where
they
had
to
move
to
because
of
homelessness.
We
are
responsible
to
transport
them
back
to
their
same
school,
so
they
can
maintain
that
stability
and
those
rights
last
to
the
end
of
the
school
year
in
which
they
became
homeless.
K
K
Now,
I'm
going
to
shift
into
stable
home,
stable
schools
unless
folks
have
questions
stable
home,
stable
schools
is
a
is
a
partnership
with
the
minneapolis
public
housing
authority,
the
city
of
minneapolis,
the
ymca
is
our
contracted
service
services,
provider
and
hennepin
county
is
also
a
partner,
and
so
these
entities
have
come
together
to
sort
of
provide
rental
assistance
and
eviction
prevention,
support
for
students
in
our
mps
schools
with
the
highest
rates
of
homelessness.
So
these
are
the
sites
that
are
included
in
stable
home,
stable
schools.
K
These
sites
represent
75
percent
of
our
eight.
We
call
it
hhm
homeless,
highly
mobile,
so
our
hhm
population,
75
percent
of
this
elementary
age
students
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
attend
one
of
these
schools,
and
so
that's
that's
why
those
schools
were
chosen
as,
as
the
referring
sites,
there's
two
types
of
assistance
that
folks
can
get
through
stable
homes.
One
is
rent
ongoing
rental
assistance.
This
is
definitely
the
part
of
the
initiative
that
is
maybe
most
sought,
after
because
of
the
lack
of
ability
for
people
to
find
affordable
housing.
K
So
this
is
for
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
who
need
some
support
to
move
out
of
that
homelessness.
So
it's
a
three-year
program,
we're
actually
looking
at
and
working
through
a
fourth
year
extension
of
that
pro
program,
given
the
all
the
pandemic
implications
for
for
families,
schools
refer
based
on
the
students
at
their
site
that
need
it
the
most
and
I'm
going
to
talk
more
about
that
in
a
minute,
but
we're
prioritizing.
K
K
So
that's
one
time,
assistance,
we've
kind
of
done
some
expansion,
where
you
can
get
it
a
second
time
given
covet
and
we've
lifted
our
limits
a
bit.
So
we've
done
some
some
shifting
around
that
to
respond
to
the
need,
but
that
is
intended
for
folks
who
are
housed
or
who
have
a
housing
that
they
can
afford
and
just
need
a
damaged
deposit
to
get
in,
and
I
see
scott.
I
think
you
have
your
hand
raised
here.
K
K
So
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
numbers,
so
this
is
in
terms
of
the
rental
assistance.
This
is
actually
this
was
our
last
poll,
but
I
think
we're
at
97
families
that
are
housed
now.
That's
that
pink,
so
we've
got
97
families
that
are
currently
housed
around
25
that
are
out
searching
and
five
that
are
pending
an
inspection.
K
Definitely,
the
biggest
challenge
to
this
initiative
is
the
ability
for
folks
to
find
affordable
housing,
so
even
with
even
with
the
rental
assistance,
it's
very
challenging.
We
have
an
added
sort
of
challenge
in
that.
The
goal
of
this
initiative
is
that
folks
can
stay
in
their
same
school
in
their
housing
and
so
we're
looking
within
a
bus
zone
of
a
particular
school
which
can
be
really
small
depending
on
the
school.
So
we're
also
limited
in
how
we're
searching
there.
K
This
is
a
little
bit
about
just
trying
to
explain
how
we
prioritize
so
because
we
do
not
have
enough
openings
for
all
eligible
families.
We,
we
came
up
with
a
a
system
of
sort
of
prioritizing
families
based
on
both
their
housing
needs
and
their
academic
needs,
and
that's
probably
one
of
the
things
I
appreciate
the
most
about
this
initiative
is
that
it's
not
just
looking
at.
K
We
really
need
to
get
this
this
family
stabilized.
So
those
are
some
of
the
considerations
that
we
do
and
then
we
re
we
release
the
referrals
to
sites
based
on
their
numbers
of
homeless.
So
if
you
have
a
site
with
a
lot
of
families
experiencing
homelessness,
you're
going
to
receive
more
referrals
in
a
given
year
than
one
of
the
other
sites.
E
K
O
K
000
and
a
lot
of
that
was
during
the
pandemic,
so
we
definitely
saw
an
increase
in
in
requests
for
that
support
since
qubit
19-
and
I
would
say
one
of
the
things
that
we've
shifted
really
well
with
on
this
is
routing
people
to
other
forms
of
assistance.
So,
while
rent
help
is
available,
if
somebody's
eligible
for
that
we're
definitely
going
to
support
them
in
that
process,
it
doesn't
mean
we'll
just
deny
their
application,
we'll
we'll
help
them
get
connected,
so
they
can
do
it.
K
K
G
I'm
curious
how
this
will
play
into
our
next
discussion
about
budget.
I
know
that
this
has
been.
You
know,
one
of
the
programs
that
our
committee
has
enthusiastically
endorsed
in
the
past
and
so
charlotte,
I'm
interested
in.
Do
you
have
any
specific
recommendations
about
you
know?
What
would
it
take
to
serve
all
the
families
that
you
would
like
to
be
serving
through
this
program?
G
K
Yeah
thanks
good
question
and
I
I
probably
should
have
spent
more
time
on
some
of
the
sort
of
outcomes
that
we
are
seeing
around.
It
are
that
the
school
stability
piece
is
huge.
I
mean
the
percent
of
students
that
are
staying
in
their
same
school.
That
wouldn't
have
otherwise
is
absolutely
incredible
and
we
know
a
lot
about
sort
of
academic
progress
and
moving
schools.
K
I
mean
that's
the
whole
point
of
the
mckinney-vento
act
is
we
know
when
kids
have
to
move
around
a
lot
their
education
is
interrupted,
so
we've
had
huge
success
in
that
area.
To
your
question,
it's
tricky
to
answer
because
I
think
our
biggest
barrier
right
now
is
housing
stock
like
it's,
it's
not
being
able
to
find
the
housing
for
for
families.
So
I
think
that's
that's
something
that
I
hope
we
continue
to
invest
in
expanding
access
to
affordable
housing.
K
I
think
to
be
able
to
expand
in
terms
of
having
like
a
full
team
of
people
to
support
the
housing
navigation
process
could
be
really
useful
because
a
lot
of
times
I
mean
we've
got
a
lot
of
family,
almost
100
families
that
are
in
that.
So
you
can
imagine
when
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
in
that
housing
search
process,
because
things
are
so
challenging
having
more
help
with
that
could
be
really
useful
but
yeah.
The
biggest
challenge
is
the
housing
stock
piece
and
we
have
just
so
you
know
we
don't.
K
So
if
someone's
been
searching
in
their
bus
zone
for
90
days,
and
just
we
are
not
making
progress,
we
then
go
to
the
family
and
say:
listen
like
we
know.
Staying
at
your
school
is
really
important.
Do
you
want
to
keep
searching
in
this
zone,
or
do
we
want
to
open
it
up,
knowing
that
that's
going
to
mean
a
school
switch?
K
Eventually,
we
can
maintain
that
stability
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
but
we
do
offer
that
as
an
option
and
families
I
mean
you
can
imagine
if
you're
homeless,
you,
even
if
you
really
love
your
school,
if
you
cannot
find
housing,
you're,
probably
going
to
choose
to
expand,
which
I
think
is
one
of
the
challenges
and
things
we
should
be
really
upset
about.
In
terms
of
you
know
how
we,
how
we
manage
for
our
community
members
and
and
the
lack
of
ability
to
stay
stable
somewhere,
appreciate
the
question.
S
You
answered
part
of
my
question
when
you
spoke
to
outcomes.
We've
mentioned
positive
academic
outcomes.
Do
you
have
outcome?
Information
in
terms
of
the
homelessness
itself,
like
is
the
duration
shorter
for
the
families
who
are
assisted
versus
the
ones
who
didn't
get
into
the
program
or
any
other
information
like
that.
K
K
Lot
more
details
around
sort
of
academic
measures,
housing
stability
measures,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
even
if
it's
just
sharing
the
information
out
with
this
committee.
I'd
be
happy
to
share
that,
but
I
will
say
absolutely
folks
that
get
into
this
get
housed
and-
and
so
we
can
like
really
clearly
point
to
that.
This
works
in
terms
of
getting
housing
for
people
and
because
we're
prioritizing
the
higher
needs
families
there.
We
really
are
screening
in
families
that,
without
this
support
would
be
really
challenged
to
find
something.
K
Another
piece
to
that
is
that,
within
our
like,
current,
like
system
of
a
homeless
response
system
are
doubled,
up,
students
aren't
actually
eligible
for
coordinated
entry,
and
that
was,
if
you
remember,
60,
of
our
student
body
kind
of
fell
into
that
category,
and
it
actually
mirrors
perfectly
with
like
that.
Isn't
a
referral
point
for
us.
K
We
take
it
into
consideration,
but
it's
not
one
of
our
actual
measures,
so
we
really
prioritize
who's
most
in
need
of
it,
academically
and,
and
the
student
sort
of
pieces
of
that,
but
60
of
those
that
are
getting
referred
in
are
our
doubled
up
families
also
so
not
eligible
for
our
homeless
response
system.
So
I
think
that's.
K
E
This
is
queen,
I
hate
to
be
so
vocal.
Can
I
make
one
small
comment
about
that,
so
I
have
this
outreach
book
of
the
streets
outreach
and
so
on
page
20
and
page
21.
It
talks
about
coordinated
entry
and
it
also
talks
about
that.
If
families
are
doubled
up
or
people
they
they
cannot
use
coordinated
entry
services.
E
K
Speaking
my
language,
queen
yeah,
it's
something
that
I
have
been
talking
about
for
a
very
long
time.
There
are
other
communities
that
include
it,
so
it
hud's
definition
of
homelessness.
Communities
can
choose
to
include
it's
like
an
at-risk
category
and
some
communities
do
choose
to
include
at
risk
in
their
coordinated
entry
process.
K
They
we
aren't,
we
don't
even
have
enough
spots
for
them,
so
why
would
we
expand
it?
I
actually
don't
agree
with
that
argument.
I
think
you
can
you
can
either
like
define
the
problem
by
the
solutions
that
you
have
available
or
you
could
define
the
problem
and
then
work
to
meet
that
need
I
mean
I
do
understand
where
people
are
coming
from
with
that.
I
just
if
we're
looking
at
kids
and
outcomes,
I
don't
think
there's
evidence
there
that
that
doubled
up
family
should
be
excluded
from
our
response
system.
K
O
L
I
know
this
city
is,
has
done
more
with
standing
up,
shelters
and
I'll.
Just
shelter
is
not
my.
You
know,
area
of
you
know
real
expertise,
but
so
to
queen's
question
about
like
what
could
this
committee
do
with,
because
we
advise
the
city
I
don't
yeah
andrea.
I
just
saw
you
pop
into
like.
Can
someone
you
just
say
like
who?
To
what
extent
are
there
minneapolis
decision
making
points
on
shelter,
access.
P
Well
I'll
just
say
that
the
so
the
coordinated
entry
system
itself
is
a
henneman
county
run
process.
So
that
is
the
jurisdiction
for
coordinated
entry,
that
specific
function,
the
city
and
the
county
participate
collectively
in
heading
home,
hennepin,
which
is
a
collaborative
between
the
city
and
the
county,
where
we
do
coordinate
our
homelessness
response
in
general,
around
shelter
and
unsheltered
homelessness.
P
And
so
that's
a
sort
of
committee
body
between
the
two.
So
for
sure,
this
committee
could
submit
a
recommendation
to
that
body,
but
that
would
be
sort
of
a
general
submission
of
interest
in
a
topic
specifically
in
terms
of
who's,
making
decisions
about
who's
in
and
out
in
the
coordinated
entry
system
that
is
under
the
county,
jurisdiction.
L
Okay,
thanks
one
so
I
mean
queen
and
and
for
you
and
for
others
who
are
interested
in
this,
I'm
just
gonna
make
sure
that
we
make
note
of
that.
As
our
committee,
you
know
that
maybe
on
a
future,
this
is
much,
I
think,
meant
to
be
more
informative
and
discussion
based,
but
also
yeah
a
way
to
identify
some
of
the
places
where
our
committee
could
take
action
or
make
recommendations.
So
I'm
just
gonna
make
note
of
that
and
we
can
plan
to
make
space
for
kind
of
revisiting.
Do
we
want
to?
L
K
K
T
Yes,
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
send
me
some
information
on
the
number
of
families
you're
seeing
doubling
up
and
to.
We
have
a
wide,
a
variety
of
people
on
this
committee
and
if
you
have
anything
to
do
with
federal
grants,
many
grants
limit.
The
are:
are
income
based,
but
they
look
at
everybody
in
the
house's
income.
So
when
we
see
families
doubling
up,
they
often
become
ineligible
for
other
services,
because
there's
two
there's
too
much
income
in
that
household.
Whereas,
if
you
consider
the
family
units
separately,
they
would
both
qualify.
T
So
that's
information
I
will
take
and
and
forward
up
through
the
the
grant
systems.
The
federal
grant
systems
that
I
work
with,
and
I
urge
other
people
to
also
work
on
getting
those
rules
changed
so
that
we
can
get
the
services
where
they're
needed
and
not
assume
that,
because
there's
six
earning
adults
in
the
household
that
could
be
three
households
combined.
K
Yeah,
I
did
not
know
that
what
a
good
point
it's
like,
such
a
like
double
whammy
so
like
not
only
do
you
need
to
like,
have
an
overflowing
household
to
be
able
to
afford
rent.
Then
you
just
then
you're
not
qualifying
for
other
services.
I
didn't.
I
didn't
even
think
of
that.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Yeah
I'll,
send
you
some
numbers.
D
Yeah
this
is
karina.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
what
I
mentioned
from
the
last
meeting.
We
should
really
also
focus
on
student
housing
to
try
to
make
that
a
priority,
because
there's
so
many
you
know
youth,
I
mean
young
adults
on
the
street
and
also
college
students,
so
we
should
kind
of
focus
on
student
housing.
I
think
that's
a
priority
that
needs
to
be
addressed
as
well.
K
Yeah,
I
I
agree
with
you:
tacoma
washington
was
a
spot
that,
when
stable
home
stable
schools
was
like
in
development,
we
really
looked
at
their
model
for
how
they
were
doing
there.
It
was
a
school
housing
partner
similarly,
and
they
have
since
expanded
so
that
they
have
an
initiative
from
like
all
the
way
from
pre-k
up
through
college,
so
they
have
like
a
stable
home,
stable
schools
for
college
students.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
this
and
obviously
for
all
of
your
work,
but
I
think
this
is
really
helpful.
So
thank
you
and
let's
obviously,
as
you
identify
things
that
you
know,
would
be
helpful
from
this
committee
moving
forward.
Of
course
you
know,
let
us
know
all
right,
so
I
think
now
we're
gonna
move
to
our
conversation
on
the
budget.
I'll
pass
pass
it
over
to
maggie
and
scott
to
lead
our
conversation.
Q
L
Just
want
to
say,
like
major
I'll
say
it
again,
but
thank
you
so
much
to
maggie
and
scott
for
volunteering
at
our
last
meeting
to
do
this
extra
prep
work
and
get
us
all
kind
of
up
to
speed
so
that
we're
in
a
place
where
we
can
decide
if
we
want
to
make
recommendations.
So
thank
you
both
for
doing
that
extra
work
for
our
committee.
R
H
H
L
A
R
U
A
H
All
right,
yeah,
we'll
get
this
sent
we'll
get
this
distributed
and
posted
to
the
website
and
yeah
I'll.
Make
sure
that
as
I'm
talking
about
it,
I
don't
leave
anything
just
sort
of
on
the
screen
and
not
on
side.
So
that
was
a
those.
The
first
newer,
expanded
program
was
the
mpha
deeply
affordable
preservation.
H
Maybe
I'll
go
over
the
next
set
next
slide
is
about
the
programs
where
the
budget
was
reduced,
and
then
I
can
maybe
have
a
if
there
are
any
questions
about
yeah.
These
two
slides
we
can
talk,
then,
so
the
city
has
a
4d
tax
program
which
provides
a
tax
break
to
landlords
who
agree
to
provide
lower
rents
for
lower
income
households
and
that
the
budget
item
was
cut
by
60
by
60
percent
from
250
000
to
100
thousand,
and
that
was
to
right-size
the
budget
based
on
actual
operating
costs.
H
Now
the
cut
was
well,
a
reduction
was
the
affordable
housing.
Trust
fund
was
deep,
was
budgeted
for
15.7
million
dollars,
which
is
a
decrease
of
about
a
hundred
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
previous
year,
and
it's
been
decreasing
this
annually
since
a
2019
high
of
20
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
then
the
third
reduction
was
the
emergency
solutions
grant
and
it
had
received
a
boost
for
2021,
the
2021
adopted
budget
and
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
then
it
returns
to
its
pre-pandemic
level
for
the
2022
recommended
budget.
E
P
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
provide
some
clarity
there
for
4d,
so
the
situation
with
40
is
the
original
budget,
as
when
we
create
a
new
program,
was
an
estimate.
So
we
weren't
sure
how
much
staff
time
it
was
going
to
take
to
run
that,
and
we
had
some
also
some
estimates
about
whether
or
not
there
were
going
to
be
additional
costs
beyond
the
staff
time
and
the
filing
fees,
and
so
after
running
the
program.
So
it's
not
a
situation
where
it's
undersubscribed
and
we're
getting
more
and
more
people
participating
in
that
all
the
time.
P
P
Participation
in
4d
is
really
just
making
sure
that
it
was
really
just
saying
we
actually
can
run
this
on
the
staff
time
that
we
have,
and
so
we
don't
need
to
to
sort
of
save
this
extra
money
in
in
this
place,
that
we
don't
need
to
use
it
right
now
and
if
I
may
also
clarify
that
the
emergency
solutions
grant
that's
passed
through
money
from
the
federal
government.
So
we
don't
control
how
much
that
is.
P
So
what
we've
done
with
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
is
so-
and
I
think
we've
talked
about
this-
maybe
in
previous
years
about
the
balance
the
city
does
between
one-time
funding
and
ongoing
funding,
and
so
one-time
funding
is
funding,
that's
available
from
a
variety
of
different
reasons,
but
it's
only
available
like
one
year.
Ongoing
funding
is
part
of
is
essentially
part
of
the
tax
levy
and
that's
ongoing
funding.
P
O
P
P
We
have
a
lot
less
one-time
funding
on
hand
and
we've
had
to
use
that
to
fill
gaps
in,
because
our
ongoing
funding
has
gone
down
significantly,
and
so
we
do
continue
to
want
to
prioritize
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
and
the
the
work
that
that's
being
done
there,
and
the
other
thing
I
will
note
is
that
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
is
not
really
a
standalone
fund.
It
works
in
concert
with
federal
and
state
resources,
leverages
those
funds
and
helps
fill
gaps.
P
So
we
also
try
to
size
it
in
a
way
where
we
can
maximize
the
leverage
that
we're
bringing
in
and
get
that
out
the
door.
So
we
take
all
that
we
get
some.
Some
estimates
from
our
housing
department
experts
about
what
they
think
in
terms
of
how
much
can
get
out
the
door
every
year,
and
we
do
also
take
that
into
consideration.
J
Okay,
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
step
on
your
toes
there.
Just
here
are
a
list
of
this
slide
is
titled
other
questions
and
it's
a
list
of
other
questions
that
we
had
about
the
proposed
budget.
So
one
of
the
items,
the
first
item
on
here
is
right
to
council,
and
we
did
already
cover
that
earlier
in
today's
discussion.
But
what
we
had
learned
is
that
there
is
a
current
1.25
million
dollar
contract
that
should
go
through
march
2022.
J
That
right
to
council
is
potentially
an
eligible
use
of
arpa
funds
and
we're
unclear.
We
weren't
unclear
where
this
shows
up
in
the
budget,
but
it
sounds
like
the
ordinance
has
made
this
possible
with
the
language
and
that
still
needs
funding
to
support
that.
Maybe
somebody
could
correct
me
if
that
was
not
a
correct
understanding
of
the
conversation.
J
Another
thing
that
we
had
noted
here
earlier
was
the
community
engagement,
specialist
position
and
the
question
that
we
had
related
to
this
was:
will
that
position
be
part
of
neighborhood
and
community
relations,
or
will
it
be
housed
elsewhere?
This
position,
I
think
we
noted
earlier
just
more
outreach
and
communication
with
renters,
specifically
and
then
rental
housing
inspectors,
which
has
been
a
topic
that
we've
discussed
as
a
committee
in
the
past
and
community
groups
have
requested
additional
funding
for
rental
housing
inspectors.
J
Previously
we
noted
that
there
was
an
overall
fte
increase
for
regulatory
services.
However,
there's
a
four
percent
budget
cut
for
the
housing
inspection
services,
specifically
so
wanting
to,
I
guess,
hadn't
heard
much
if
that
was
something
that
groups
were
working
on
already
and
maybe
if
anybody
is
familiar
with
this,
what
this
might
mean
for
renters,
if
there's
that
budget
cut
for
for
the
housing
inspectors
specifically
and
then
the
last
note
here
is
about
the
american
rescue
plan,
act
that
there's
50
million
dollars
in
funding
that
the
city
has
remaining.
J
Polling
feature
that
we
had
asked
to
be
sent
out
and
maybe
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
scott
to
kind
of
explain
the
polling
feature
and
let
us
know
what
the
results
are
like.
We
had
asked
people
to
indicate
kind
of
their
how
they
would
rank
the
priorities
among
the
five
previously
identified,
housing
focus
areas,
and
I
don't
know
to
see
if
there
was
any
kind
of
consensus
amongst
our
group
in
terms
of
how
we
would
prioritize
those
areas
as
a
committee.
P
Specialist,
that
is
a
position
that
will
be
that
will
live
in
regulatory
services.
It
was
a
proposal
from
them,
so
it
is
gonna.
It's
part
of
the
overall
housing
inspection
team,
that
that
includes
the
the
housing
liaisons
and,
and
so
it's
to
collaborate
with
that.
The
work
that
they're
doing
and
also
specifically
focus
on
some
of
the
larger
portfolios
that
we
do
encounter.
P
A
Yeah-
and
so
I
was
actually
not
familiar
with
this-
I
don't
I
didn't
lose
any
staff
this
year,
particularly,
I
think
there's.
I
think
it
could
be
sort
of
a
adjustment
or
a
budget
adjustment.
Although
I
did
talk,
I
mean
I'll
talk
to
I'll
have
to
get
asked
the
my
budget
manager,
but
I
was
not
aware
of
any
cut
to
staffing.
A
I
didn't
get
any
additional
staff,
but
I
didn't
lose
stuff
so
and-
and
then
I
want
to
say
yes,
the
community
engagement
specialist
is
in
regulatory
services
specifically
to
work
with
what
the
portfolio
inspections
and
to
try
to
do
more
engagement
with
renters
in
prior
to
sort
of
doing
licensing
inspections
and
to
working
with
our
liaison
team
to
do
more
front-end
engagement.
That
way,
and
then
also
to
work
with
just
partner
with.
A
A
P
P
We,
the
hennepin
county,
has
recently
ramped
up
their
services
as
well
that
they're
providing
directly
for
legal
representation,
and
I
know
the
collaborative
of
groups
that
work
on
that
have
been
putting
working
with
katie
really
closely
to
put
together.
What
does
it
look
like
to?
What
do
we
think
it's
gonna
look
like
which
you
know
in
the
pin,
as
we're
coming
out
of
the
eviction
more
term
in
the
pandemic,
still
a
lot
of
educated
guesses
about
what
we're
gonna
need.
P
So
I
can
say
we
are
very
interested
from
the
mayor's
office
in
moving
forward
an
arp
proposal
that
will
that
will
make
sure
that
we're
not
falling
off
a
cliff
on
march
of
2022
with
that
services.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
to
provide
that,
and
since
we
are
coming
out
of
the
victim
moratorium
from
the
pandemic,
it
is
a
very
clear
eligible
use
for
arp
funds,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
are
definitely
considering
as
we
go
through
that
round
of
deliberation.
J
H
Yeah
so
rosie
brought
up
the
men
to
mentometer
poll
that
I
had
that
I
put
together
and
was
sent
out
with
the
agenda
in
minutes,
and
it's
just
super
quick.
I've
gotten
four
responses.
I
think
including
my
own,
I'm
on
it,
but
it
just
it
takes
like
a
minute
minute
and
a
half,
and
so
it's
basically
you
rank
the
five
subcategories
of
housing
that
the
city
has
defined,
and
so
it's
housing
stability
for
low-income,
renters
and
homeowners.
H
Support
for
persons
experiencing
homelessness,
reducing
racial
disparities
on
home
ownership,
creating
low
new
low
barrier
and
affordable
housing
and
emergency
support
for
low
income,
renters
and
homeowners,
and
so
you
just
rank
those
one
to
five
and
I'll.
Send
those
response.
He'll
spend
the
results
to
andrea
and
back
to
the
to
the
rest
of
the
group
so
that
they
have
that
information
as
they
yeah
prepare
the
round
two
proposal.
D
R
Yeah,
absolutely,
if
there's
other
questions
on
this
yeah,
we
can
move
on
to
some
potential
recommendations
that
the
three
of
us
thought
of,
but
certainly
leaving
lots
of
space
to
hear
from
the
whole
committee
as
well.
Wanna
want
to
lift
up
that.
We
support
the
investment
in
in
public
housing
and
especially
the
deeply
affordable.
R
Super
great
super
cool
glad
to
see
that
in
budget
the
second
area,
we
would
recommend
the
increases
either
kind
of
through
the
budget
itself
or
as
a
use
of
arpa
funds.
The
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
especially
prioritizing
deeply
affordable
housing.
You
know,
there's
always
many
more
applications
than
can
get
funded
through
the
trust
fund.
So
we
would
love
to
see
some
of
the
arpa
funds.
Be
used
there,
similarly
again
back
to
minneapolis
public
housing,
just
continuing
to
invest
there
in
that
deeply
affordable
housing
preserve
those
opportunities
address.
R
Some
of
that
deferred,
maintenance
make
sure
it's
safe
and
high
quality,
fully
funding
that
right
to
council
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
other
eviction
prevention
measures
and
then
continuing
to
prioritize
shelter,
funding
and
support
for
our
our
homeless
neighbors
again,
either
through
the
budget
or
with
those
arpa
funds.
The
prioritization
survey
we
just
talked
about,
so
we
don't
need
to
spend
any
more
time
on
that
and
then
just
other
items
for
discussion
kind
of
those
that
rental
housing
inspector
thing
that
rose
mentioned
again.
R
L
Well
I'll
just
say,
I
yeah
agree
that
I
think
that
these
I
agree
with
these
that
are
listed
here.
A
couple
yeah
questions
I
had
or
other
pieces
are
just
going
to
add.
I
think
so.
Our
last
estimate
for
right
to
counsel
would
be
that
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
to
provide
right
to
counsel
for
all
minneapolis
families
facing
eviction.
It's
it's
hard.
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
just
point
just
to
put
that
in
context
for
how
much
you
know
our
legal
aid.
That's
estimate
that
it
might,
it
might
cost
sort
of
a
back
of
the
napkin
estimate,
but
that's
what
we
have
and
then
I
mean
definitely,
I
think,
just
substantively
want
to
share
that.
We're
very
concerned
about
health
and
safety
issues
in
people's
rental
properties.
We
know
that
there's
been
a
decrease
in
complaints
to
311
during
covid.
L
Besides
eviction
defense,
the
number
one
thing
it's
the
next
biggest
thing
that
we
do
often
in
tangent
with
eviction
cases,
is
health
and
safety
hazards
and
rental
properties,
so
not
making
a
specific
recommendation
here,
but
just
that
that
is
you
know.
Sometimes
inspections
can
seem
sort
of
like
clinical,
but
they
really
are
meaningful
when
it
comes
to
helping
renters
enforce
their
rates
to
health
and
safe
homes.
So
I
would
just
I
mean
would
defer
to
kelly
on.
You
know
her
team
of
what
you
know.
L
She
feels
the
way
you
feel
kelly
is
needed
in
order
to
really
meet
the
need.
I
know
that
there's
because
of
lack
of
resources
like
that
comes
up
right
of
the
lack
of
resources
and
being
able
to
get
into
as
many
homes
as
as
you
and
we
all
would
like
to
be
have
eyes
on.
So
I
would
just
be
curious
about
that
and
then
I'm
sorry,
if
I
missed,
I
think
I
missed
where
stable
home
stay
with
schools.
E
This
is
queen
again.
I
would
just
say
that
I
don't
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
get
that
information
what
school
your
kid
goes
to
can
affect
if
you
get
services
for
stable,
stable,
home,
stable
schools.
So
again,
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
more
information
about
that
distributed
in
certain
communities,
so
that
kids
know
our
parents
know
what
schools
have
this
kind
of
funding
and
gives
them
that
kind
of
help
and
support.
Thank
you.
I
recused
myself.
F
R
P
P
You
know
in
terms
of
the
housing
budget,
I
think
the
the
broader
perspective
on
holistic
community
development
and
how
that,
over
the
long
term
impacts
public
safety
in
a
positive
way.
We
definitely
see
these
investments
as
as
a
move
in
that
direction,
but
if
you're
looking
for
specifically
things
that
address
a
very
direct
line
to
sort
of
public
safety
and
violence
prevention,
those
are
the
two
places
to
look
for
it
and
I
can
provide.
P
L
L
I
know
you
were
a
big
part
of
that
too.
We
kind
of
voted
on
one
at
a
time,
so
I
guess
the
two
options
would
be.
We
could
vote
one
at
a
time
on
pieces
of
this
or
additional
recommendations
that
people
have
or,
alternatively,
if
somebody
wanted
to
make
a
motion
that
had
kind
of
a
multi-faceted
recommendation
like
I
vote
or
I
would
move
to
approve
with
exactly
on
this
slide,
we
could
we
could
do
it
that
way
and
then
vote
to
see
where
the
votes
are.
I
think
cecil.
Do
you.
R
L
J
My
personal
opinion,
if
I,
if
I
could
is
to
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
the
level
of
detail
and
time
within
you
can
pass
capacity
within
our
committee
to
really
dig
into
those
numbers
and
propose
specifics
in
a
way
that
would
make
sense
like.
I
think
we
could
spend
an
entire
meeting
and
probably
not
get
on
the
same
page
as
to
where
we
wanted
to
go
with
those
numbers.
So
I
I.
D
Yeah,
I
second
that
is
there
ever
a
way
this
is
karina
speaking.
Is
there
ever
a
way
that
this
housing
committee
can
sit
with
city
council
when
they
are
discussing
things?
That's
you
know
related
to
housing
and
budget
wise
and
stuff
like
that,
so
that
we
can
all
be
on
the
same
page,
because
most
of
the
calls
I
am
on
the
phone,
so
I
don't
see
like
today.
I
just
received
the
the
graphs
and
stuff.
D
So
if
we
were
to
vote,
I
wouldn't
vote
on
it,
because
I
would
have
to
look
at
it
to
make
some
sense
of
it
all,
but
is
it
ever
a
day
that
we
can
fit
with
city,
council
or
whoever's?
You
know
doing
all
of
this
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
because
we're
making
you
know
amendments
to
this
stuff.
So
I
just
think
that
one
day
that
should
happen
that
this
community
and
that
council
is
together.
L
Yeah
karina,
I
think,
that's
a
that's
a
really
good
idea.
I
know
we
do
have.
We
have
robin
who
is
here
at
you
know,
city,
council
staff,
but
something
that
we
could
explore
is
for
at
our
november
meeting
is
inviting
you
know
whether
it's
you
know,
council
member
palmisano,
as
the
chair
of
the
budget
committee
or
or
an
open
invitation
to
council
members
and
or
staff
to
to
join
us
at
our
november
meeting.
Just
since
we'll
already
be,
you
know,
convened
rather
than
setting
another
meeting
yeah.
L
Of
course
there
are
a
few
public
hearings
that,
but
those
are
sort
of
a
a
one-way
like
speaker
piece.
So,
but
if
we're
looking
for
sort
of
a
conversation,
committee,
leadership
and
stuff,
we
could
explore
maybe
inviting
council
members
or
their
staff
to
our
november
meeting.
If
is
that
something
that
people
would
like.
D
E
P
P
But
now
the
housing
work
at
the
committee
level
at
the
council
is
embedded
within
the
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
council.
Member
gordon
is
a
member
of
that
committee
that
it's
chaired
by
council
member
goodman
and
vice
chair,
councilmember
schrader,
and
then
the
member,
the
other
members,
are
council,
member,
good,
gordon
council,
member
ellison,
council,
member
osman
and
councilmember
reich.
O
I
Yeah
I
I
rose
raised
is
an
interesting
point.
If
we,
if
we're
not
going
to
do
the
the
deep
dive
or
even
put
dollar
figures
on
here,
then
one
thing
we
should
at
least
try
to
attempt
to
do
is
prioritize
because
the
more
we
add
to
this
list,
the
more
we
dilute
our
voice
and
our
impact
on
the
budget,
because
then
it's
just
well.
We
heard
you-
and
we
just
picked
this
from
the
list
that
you
gave
us,
and
so
you
know
to
have
a
conversation
about
what
are
the
priorities.
I
Is
it
deeply
affordable
housing?
I've
heard
that
over
and
over
again
this
year
about
the
priority
of
deeply
affordable
housing.
You
know,
but
are
there
opportunities
because
of
the
the
upper
funding
to
say?
Okay?
Well,
if
there's
a
funding
on
the
table
and
housing
is
a
priority,
then
let's
prioritize
those
elements
in
the
budget.
I
J
Yeah,
I
just
did
have
a
comment
about
timing,
so
I
think
last
time
you
know
we
put
together
a
comment
and
we
submitted
it
in
writing
and
not
as
part
of
the
public
hearing
but
prior
to
the
public
hearing.
So
just
wanted
to
note
that
the
public
hearing,
I
believe-
and
maybe
andrea,
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
wednesday
december
1st,
and
so
we
do
have.
J
I
don't
know
what
is
on
the
agenda
for
the
november
meeting
yet,
but
we
do
have
one
meeting
in
between
this
conversation
and
the
budget
hearing.
If
we
wanted
to
submit
something
before
the
public
comment,
we
would
still
have
time
to
discuss
any
kind
of
changes
or
revisions
or
a
draft
letter.
I
guess
there
would
be
time,
I'm
not
sure
if
there
is
time
for
the
on
the
agenda,
but
there's
chronological
timelines.
L
Yeah
I
mean
I
can
just
speak
to
that
since
I'm
involved
with
setting
the
agendas
the
november
agenda
is
not
set,
so
we
could
absolutely
make
time
in
our
november
meeting.
If,
however,
we
wanted
to
do
this,
if
it
was
some
folks
doing
some
work,
I
think
in
the
meantime
you
know
and
then
and
then
coming
back
to
put
together
more
specific
recommendations
in
november
that
we
could
absolutely
make
that
happen.
L
With
regards
to
this
committee's
agenda
for
those
city
city
staff,
folks,
do
you
have
thoughts
about
whether
timing-wise
they
know
the
public
hearing?
You
know
there's
public
hearing
into
december,
but
is
that
do
you
think
do
you
feel
like
that
timeline
is
still
works
with
like
the
timeline
upon
which
the
council
members
are
really
considering
their
amendments
or
would
you
what
would
be
your
recommendation
to
us
to
make
our
make
sure
our
recommendation
is.
You
know
useful.
U
P
See
so
right
now
what's
happening
in
the
structure,
and
I
can't
speak
to
the
council
members
and
what
their
timeline
would
be
in
terms
of
consideration
of
amendments,
but
I
can
talk
to
generally
the
the
timeline
structure
right
now.
What's
happening
in
the
process.
Is
the
budget
committee
is
meeting
and
they
are
taking
departmental
presentations,
so
each
of
the
departments
presents
their
change
items
that
are
in
the
budget
to
the
budget
committee
and
that's
happening
right
now.
P
That's
the
one
that
happens
in
the
afternoon
and
then
the
one
that
rose
mentioned
is
the
second
public
hearing
which
is
in
the
evening
on
december
1st
and
then
after
that,
the
so
the
markup
is
where
the
council
members
actually
present
their
amendments,
and
that
happens
on
december
3rd.
So
I
would
recommend
closer
to
the
first
public
hearing
than
the
second
in
terms
of
making
sure
you're
getting
it
in
ahead
of
when
council
members
are
formulating,
what
their
markups
are
going
to
be.
L
U
P
L
L
Then
our
recommendation
could
then
maybe
be
a
little
bit
more
nuanced,
rather
than
I
just
brought
up
just
a
list
of
things
that
we,
we
think
should
be
supported
or
emphasized
that
maybe
we
could,
I
mean,
I
think
that
data
would
be
the
most
useful
if,
if
all
of
us,
or
as
many
of
us
as
possible,
participated
to
really
show
like
where
kind
of
one
push,
we
could
say
twofold.
We
think
all
of
these
things
are
important.
L
We
don't
think
any
of
these
things
should
be
decreased
and
here's
where
our
committee
members
stand
as
far
as
prioritization.
I
know
it's
hard
because
it's
hard
to
it's
a
little
bit
apples
and
oranges
right
because
different
things
cost
different
amounts
of
money.
So
it's
not
it's
like
you
have
ten
dollars.
What
do
you
want
to
spend
the
ten
dollars
on
it's?
L
Well,
we
want
to
spend
maybe
four
dollars
here
and
two
dollars
here,
and
so
I
get
the
the
desire
for
dollar
amounts,
but
I
also
agree
that
we
probably
aren't
the
body
with
the
expertise
on
you
know,
saying
really
specific
dollar
amounts.
I
don't
know
for
the
folks
that
worked
on
this.
Do
do
you
all
feel
like
that
that
would
be
possible
for
us
to
put
together
a
little
bit
more
of
a
detailed,
whether
it's
a
poll
that
goes
out
to
folks
beforehand
or
it's.
You
know
something
we
do
in
our
november
meeting.
R
L
If
you
could
submit
those
via
email
to
you
know,
one
of
us
will
make
sure
it
gets
to
everybody,
but
either
to
the
co-chairs
or
to
maggie
scott
and
rose
so
that
they're
at
least
included
in
whatever
you
know,
poll
or
thing
that
we
put
together.
So
if
you
could
email
those
like
within
the
next
week
or
so
week
or
two
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
then
we'll
plan
to
put
something
a
little
bit
more
detailed
together
as
a
team
in
advance
of
our
november
meeting.