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From YouTube: December 20, 2021 Civil Rights Commission
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A
B
And
the
regular
meeting
of
the
minneapolis
civil
rights
commission
will
now
begin
good
evening.
Everyone,
my
name,
is
mackenzie.
May
I'm
the
chair
of
the
civil
rights
commission
and
I'm
going
to
call
us
call
this
meeting
for
december
20th
2021
to
order.
I
want
to
welcome
everyone
joining
us
this
evening.
As
we
begin,
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
members
of
the
commission
and
city
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
0.021
due
to
the
local
declared
local
public
health
emergency.
B
D
A
B
E
Move
to
approved
adoption
of
the
agenda.
B
I
will
be
holding
them
up
until
the
new
year,
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
we
want
to
try
and
plan
for
again,
but
that
will
not
be
happening.
So
that
is
why
that
is
not
present
on
the
agenda.
Thankfully,
I
was
able
to
get
that
off
of
the
agenda
before
it
was
published.
A
C
Commissioner,
may
yes,
commissioner
cobia?
Yes,
commissioner
crowder?
Yes,
I
see
there's
more
people
joining
commissioner
bergquist.
C
Okay,
commissioner
devenish.
F
A
G
A
E
B
Next
is
the
acceptance
of
minutes
from
the
november
15th
2021
meeting.
You
may
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes.
B
B
G
H
F
A
B
G
B
G
Okay,
great,
so
I
know
that
the
draft
letter
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
had
been
attached
to
the
email
with
the
agenda
in
the
microsoft
teams
link.
So
if
maybe
someone
could
pull
that
up,
I
don't
think
I'm
able
to
pull
things
up
on
the
screen.
That
would
be
great
and
we
could
talk
about
that.
G
Okay
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
so
well,
kayla's
doing
that.
Maybe
what
I
could
do
is
just
talk
just.
D
G
Us
of
what
we
were
talking
about
in
the
last
time,
so
we
had
had
some
conversations
inspired
by
the
urban
institute
report
around
huge
disparities
in
home
ownership
between
white
folks
in
minneapolis
and
black
folks,
one
of
the
worst,
if
not
the
worst
major
market,
disparity
in
the
nation
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
drivers
of
that
in
our
community,
has
been
a
significant
uptake
in
investor
owned
homes,
particularly
in
communities
of
color.
G
And
so
you
know,
what's
happened
is
you
know
larger
investment
companies
from
outside
of
the
twin
cities,
some
of
them
offshore
have
come
in
to
our
communities,
particularly
communities
of
color
and
kind
of
swooped
in
and
purchased
a
lot
of
single-family
homes.
There
are
a
variety
of
deleterious
consequences
to
that.
You
know
one
being
it's
taking
dollars
out
of
our
community.
G
It
is
kind
of
making
it
very
difficult
for
people
in
the
community
to
compete
with
all
cash
offers
that
these
investors
are
often
making,
and
you
know
what
I
was
proposing
in
our
previous
meeting
was
that
we
actually
reach
out
to
some
of
these
investment
companies
and
really
ask
them
as
participants
of
our
community.
G
Their
community
members
right
their
property
owners
in
our
community
and
alert
them
to
this
issue
and
ask
for
their
help
in
trying
to
kind
of
come
to
the
table
with
us
and
and
discuss
with
us
some
thoughts
that
they
might
have
on
how
they
could
continue
to.
You
know,
do
business,
but
also
contribute
to
addressing
this
disparity
in
our
community.
G
So
I
had
sure
to
draft
of
a
letter
that
I
was
proposing
we
send
to
some
of
those
investment
companies.
G
In
a
previous
meeting,
I
got
some
feedback
from
the
department
as
well
as
some
other
commissioners
that
maybe
we
should
you
know
not
be
proposing
specific
solutions,
but
really
inviting
them
into
the
conversation
with
an
initial
communication
which
seemed
appropriate,
and
so
I've
come
to
you
today
with
a
revised
letter
that
I
would
like
the
commission
to
endorse
and
support
to
send
to
one
investment
company
in
particular,
and
that
is
front
yard
residential.
G
G
I
actually
followed
up
with
one
of
the
analysts
who
wrote
that
report
to
get
a
minneapolis,
specific
accounting
of
the
largest
kind
of
investment
companies
that
own
the
most
homes
in
minneapolis
and
front
yard
residential
according
to
the
kind
of
unique
data
cut
that
the
federal
reserve
provided
me
was
the
number
one
you
know
largest
owner
of
single-family
homes
in
minneapolis
that
were,
you
know,
being
used
to
rent
out.
Specifically
they
had
more
than
200
homes.
G
I
I
believe
the
count
was
either
like
220
225,
something
like
that
and
they
are
disproportionately
located
in
north
minneapolis,
specifically
in
the
can
camden
neighborhood
and
maybe
I'll
just
stop
there
is
there.
Do
we
have
a
commissioner
who's
from
board
4
on
the
phone
today.
G
Cindy
hi,
commissioner
definition,
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
have
any
like
personal
or
firsthand
knowledge,
they
they
rent
their
homes
under
the
through
a
management
company
called
haven
brook
homes.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you've
maybe
seen
that
in
your
community.
F
Yes,
I've
heard
of
heaven
brook
apartments.
I
personally
have
had
no
interaction
with
them,
but
yes,
I
am
aware
of
them.
Okay,.
G
G
We
have
actually
interactive
maps
that
show
the
distribution
of
these
homes
and
what
you
would
see
if
you
looked
at
that
map
is
that
there's
a
huge
number
of
them
in
the
camden
area
and
then
there's
a
kind
of
like
a
smattering
across
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
they're
really
concentrated,
which
you
know,
I
suppose,
if
your
front
yard
residential
that
makes
sense
because
it
makes
maintaining
them
more
efficient.
G
So
based
on
that
kind
of
digging
into
this
issue
a
little
bit
more,
you
know
I
I'm
proposing
this
revised
letter.
I
have
reached
out
to
the
council
woman,
elect
in
ward
four,
ms,
the
top
right,
who
I
believe
is
going
to
be
the
new
council
person
there.
I
have
not
heard
back
from
her.
G
I've
just
dropped
her
office,
a
note
because
I
thought
you
know
she
might
be
a
good
state,
a
good
stakeholder
to
talk
to
about
this,
and
so
that
so
that's
pretty
much
it
I
mean
I
I'm
happy
to
read
the
contents
of
this
letter
aloud
if
that
would
be
helpful,
but
would
that
be
helpful
folks
just
to
run
through
it.
A
G
Okay
sure
so
it's
addressed
to
the
ceo
of
front
yard
residential
george
ellison
dear
mr
ellison.
Your
company
is
currently
the
largest
investor
owner
of
rental
homes
in
minneapolis,
with
more
than
200
rental
homes,
most
of
them
in
north
minneapolis,
while
these
homes
are
creating
profits
for
you
and
your
shareholders,
they're
also
contributing
to
an
equity
in
the
twin
cities.
The
minneapolis
commission
on
civil
rights
has
identified
housing
inequity
as
a
key
civil
rights
issue
in
minneapolis
and
is
asking
for
your
help.
G
G
Some
of
that
decline
is
attributable
to
the
increase
in
single-family
rental
units
in
communities
of
color.
According
to
a
recent
research
report
published
by
the
urban
institute,
the
number
of
single-family
rental
units,
more
than
doubled
in
the
twin
cities,
from
2005
to
2020,
while
the
number
of
single-family
homes
grew
only
eight
percent.
Over
that
period,
single-family
rental
units
have
become
increasingly
concentrated
in
neighborhoods,
with
higher
shares
of
low-income
residents
and
residents
of
color.
G
The
share
of
single
family
rental
units
owned
by
investors,
rose
from
about
four
percent
in
2005
to
14
in
2020
investor-owned
single-family
rentals
may
have
a
negative
impact
on
communities,
particularly
communities
of
color
profits
leave
the
state
they
do
not
contribute
to
local
businesses
or
jobs.
G
Research
shows
that
investor-owned
companies
are
more
likely
to
affect
tenants
than
other
property
owners
contributing
to
housing
and
security,
and
investor
competition
for
homes
can
lead
to
higher
prices
prices.
Pricing
out
community
members,
all
community
stakeholders
have
an
obligation
to
address
these
inequities.
To
that
end,
we
invite
your
company
to
become
part
of
the
solution.
We
would
like
to
ask
for
your
engagement
in
helping
create
a
minneapolis
where
communities
of
color
share
equally
in
the
benefits
of
home
ownership.
G
G
G
I'll,
just
so
what
so,
what
I
kind
of
been
asking
for
is
you
know
an
endorsement
of
this
to
send
to
george
ellison.
You
know
we
realize
we,
you
know,
cannot
legally
compel
any
sort
of
response,
but
part
of
our
charge
is
to
engage
our
community
and
property
owners
in
our
community.
Are
you
know,
by
definition,
members
of
our
community-
and
I
think
it's
completely
appropriate
for
us
to
try
to
raise
this
issue
to
their
attention
and
ask
for
their
partnership
to
address
some
potentially
deleterious
impact
that
their
business
practices
may
be?
Having.
B
Absolutely
do
should
we
open
the
floor
to
have
commissioners
give
their
thoughts.
B
Yeah,
I
would
definitely
say
I
I
support
this
letter.
I
don't
feel
like
we're
necessarily
giving
them
any
solutions,
but,
like
you
said,
an
invitation
to
even
have
this
conversation
and
learn.
Maybe
what
some
of
our
ideas
would
be
just
based
off
of
you
know
conversations
that
we've
had.
I
think
that
this
is
a
a
very
big
issue
in
our
community.
You
know
when
I
see
when
I've
been
looking
on
line
at
houses.
B
A
lot
of
them
are
now
owned
by
zillow,
because
zillow
is
starting
to
to
own
homes
and
things
as
such.
So
it
you
know
it's
it's
not
like
it's
getting
tightened
down.
You
know
this
is
a
growing
issue,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
other
commissioners
thoughts
into
our
ass,
the
letter
and
how
the
commission
thinks
that
we
can
support
this.
F
F
You
know
within
the
city
of
minneapolis
or
hennepin
county
itself,
if
any
of
these
agencies
would
be
willing
to
partner
with
us
in
these
various
letters,
for
example,
commissioner,
well
I
mean
we
wrote
a
letter
to
supporting
I'm
sorry.
Commissioner
rantz
led
a
letter
writing
to
black
owned
banks
and
and
establishments.
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
I.
F
I
see
a
lot
of
community
organizations
that
have
diversity,
inclusion,
embedded
in
their
belief
systems,
and
I'm
wondering
if
they'd
be
willing
to
partner
with
us
in
writing
these
letters
for
their
support
as
well.
G
Like
are,
you,
are
you
thinking
like,
like
maybe
like
local
credit
unions
or
what
like
businesses.
F
G
F
Right,
yeah
yeah,
I'm
sorry
yeah,
all
all
above
I
think
you
know
you
know
I
you
know,
I
think
about
hamburg
county,
how
they
have
like
their
own
in
people
of
color
group.
You
know,
city
minneapolis,
you
know
obviously
has
the
you
know
discrimination.
So
I'm
just
wondering
what
can
we
do
to
partner
moving?
Maybe
not
this
conversation
or
moving
forward?
F
What
can
we
do
to
partner
with
different
organizations
to
have
a
a
formula?
F
I,
I
guess
a
common
thread
of
a
belief
system
of
this
is
because
you
know
I
keep
on
seeing
these
ongoing
conversations
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
can
we
do
as
a
commission
to
not
just
have
these
conversations
and
put
forth
these
letters
but
hold
these
organizations
accountable
and
to
form
a
unison.
So
I
guess
that
is
my
question.
Sorry,
sorry.
G
Sir,
are
you
suggesting
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
you're
saying
it
sounds
to
me
like
you're,
suggesting
that
we
try
to
solicit
some
additional
signatories
to
the
letters
so
that
it
could
potentially
come
from
like
us
and
organization,
x,
organization,
y
and
organization
z?
Is
that
what
you're
yeah.
F
It,
if
possible,
you
know
I
I
I
realized
it
might
be
out
of
overwhelm
but
realm,
but
you
know
I'm
just
interested
in
how
other
people
feel
about
that
idea.
If
it's
you
know
my
shooting
over,
but
you
know
we,
we
all
watch
the
news.
We
all
hear
like
these
ongoing
conversations
and
in
my
mind,
in
order
to
see
change,
we
have
to
have
a
common
goal
and
in
order
to
have
that
common
goal,
I
think
we
need
to
bring
different
people
and
organization
to
the
table.
So
that
is
yes.
E
Yes,
I
I
think
the
letter
is
very
well
done.
I
have
to
applaud
the
the
way
the
letter
was
put
together,
but
I
have
a
question
and
a
suggestion.
E
The
question
is
basically
the
letter
it
seems
to
me
is
telling
this
entity
or
any
other
entities
that
they
should
probably
dispose
of
some
of
their
property,
and
I'm
wondering
what
thought
was
given
to
that
because,
ultimately,
to
increase
the
number
of
of
owned
units,
they
they
and
and
others
like
them,
might
have
to
dispose
of
property,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
you
know
what
kind
of
thought
was
given
to
that.
But
on
the
other
end
I
have
sort
of
a
suggestion,
the
and
the
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
letter.
E
It
suggests
that
mr
ellison
contact
either
the
chair
or
commissioner
lord,
which
I
think
is
good
and
in
the
I
have
a
long
history
of
civil
rights
and
when
we
used
to
do
a
lot
of
things
to
try
and
publicize
an
issue,
we
would
call
for
a
public
hearing
to
try
and
get
entities
and
other
people
to
sort
of
testify
and
to
publicize
an
issue
because
we
obviously
have
limited
power.
E
And
but
one
thing
we
can
do
is
publicize
and
leave
the
issues
out
there
to
hopefully
try
and
find
some
resolutions.
So
I
thought,
as
a
suggestion,
there
might
be
sort
of
indication
that
we
are
we're
considering
a
public
hearing,
or
at
least,
if
it's
not
in
the
letter.
If,
when
mr
ellison
contacts
a
commissioner
they
it
could
be
brought
up
to
the
commissioner
that
or
could
be
brought
up
to
mr
ellison,
that
we
may
conduct
a
public
hearing
on
this
issue,
which
I'm
not
sure
they
would
want
to
see.
G
So
to
I
guess
two
things,
one
with
with
respect
to
your
question
about
you
know
it
sounds
like
we're
telling
them
they
should
dispose
of
some
of
their
property.
I'm
I'm
not
sure.
That's
like
the
singular
solution.
G
You
know,
as
I
was
researching
some
of
the
investment
firms
that
owned
that
were
a
little
further
down
the
list
owned
fewer
properties
in
minneapolis
like
one
of
them,
for
example,
and
I'm
I'm
not
remembering
the
name,
but
one
of
them
had
a
rent
to
own
program.
For
example,
another
possibility
would
be
implementing
a
criteria
around
home
purchasing.
The
urban
institute,
for
example
in
their
report,
did
a
really
good
job
of
providing
kind
of
a
very
clear
different
definition
around.
G
You
know
neighborhoods
that
might
be
more
vulnerable,
and
so
you
could,
for
example,
create
a
criteria
around
the
neighborhoods
you're
going
to
purchase
in,
and
you
know,
maybe
not
purchase
in
neighborhoods.
That
might
be
most
negatively
impacted,
for
example.
So
I
I
that's
that's
what
I
think
is
part
of
the
conversation
part
that
could
be.
You
know
useful,
because
I
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
well.
We
want
you
to
sell
all
of
your
property,
you
know-
and
I
guess
the
thing
about
the
hearings
really
interesting
too.
G
A
B
Yeah
I
was
going
to
ask
if
somebody
would
be
able
to
give
some
more
information
about
what
a
public
hearing
would
or
what
that
entails.
I've
never
heard
of
it
myself,
but
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
great
idea
as
far
as
publicizing
this.
As
a
from
my
understanding
of
what
I,
what
I
took
from
what
you
said,
commissioner
fine
is
like
oh
I,
a
lot
of
people
would
have
a
lot
of
things
to
say
I
mean
a
lot.
B
I
can
think
of
a
handful
of
families
that
have
been
told
that
they
had
to
move
because
their
homeowners
that
were
people
of
color,
were
selling
their
homes.
Renters
were
told
they
had
to
move
because
the
homeowners
were
selling
their
homes
to
investor
properties.
B
So
just
a
lot
of
things
like
that
that
I've
heard-
and
so
I
just
thought
like
wow
the
publicizing
part
of
it
and
in
the
public
hearing
I'm
curious
about
what
that
would
be,
because
this
is
a
huge
issue
and
I
do
see
miss
smith's
nief's
hand
up.
So
I
think
that
it
did.
You
want
to
use.
J
J
The
commission
has
not
conducted
public
hearings
for
the
time
I've
been
with
the
commission
about
the
last
six
years,
but
the
authority
of
the
commission
under
141.40
of
the
court
of
ordinances
does
include
the
authority
to
conduct
public
meetings
and
forms
and
gather
and
disseminate
information
to
governmental
agencies
and
to
the
public.
So
the
commission
couldn't,
if
it
wished,
conduct
a
public
meeting
or
public
forum
in
order
to
discuss
this
matter
in
order
to
gather
stories
from
the
community
about
how
this
is
impacting
them
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
J
It
does
not
have
any
authority
to
make
mr
ellison
appear
at
any
such
public
meeting,
but
it
certainly
can
use
that
type
of
event
to
raise
awareness.
J
I
would
say
that's
helpful
in
terms
of
providing
some
context
about
the
the
commission's
authority
to
do
something
like
that.
Thank.
F
Yes,
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
should
use
the
racial
equity
tool
to
bring
forth,
because
I
I
think
this
is
an
important
conversation
and
yeah.
So
I
just
would
like
to
put
that
on
the
table
as
well.
K
Yeah,
I
was
just
wondering
if
commissioner
award
could
give
more
context.
I
think
this
isn't
the
same
question
that
commissioner
fine
brought
up
about
just
the
potential
solutions
or
or
kind
of
it
sounds
like
we
didn't
want
to
include
any
potential
solutions
in
the
letter,
but
just
wondering
like
if
we're
reading
it
from
that
investor's
perspective.
If
potentially
some
of
those
options
that
you
have
listed,
it
might
be
beneficial
to
include
just
as
like
here's
some
potential,
you
know
solutions.
K
To
have
this
conversation,
because
you
just
want
me
to
sell
my
property,
if
that
makes
sense,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
ways
that
might
make
it
a
more
open,
ended
and
and.
L
G
If
I
could
just
briefly
respond
to
that,
the
you
know
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
do
that
only
because
we
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
feedback
from
the
community.
G
You
know
kind
of
going
back
to
what
someone
else
was
saying.
Maybe
it
was
a
commissioner
devenish.
Just
you
know
we
we
haven't
really
understood
what
the
desires
of
the
community
would
be,
and
I
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
premature
and
and
uncool
to
to
suggest
solutions
without
getting
that
input.
I
mean
that's
why
I
kind
of
reached
out
to
councilwoman
elect
the
top
and.
G
If
I'm
yeah
mispronouncing
her
name,
sorry
because
I
think.
K
A
K
A
lot
of
ways
they
might
not
think
of
any
potential.
You
know
it
might
be
a
non-like,
a
non-answer
or
like
it
might
be
a
stop
to
having
even
a
conversation
if
they
can't
visualize
and
think
of
other
ways
that
there
could
potentially
be
a
solution
that
isn't
necessarily
just
not
going
to
benefit
them
as
a
company
just
coming
it
from
like
a
business
perspective.
So
I
wonder
if
there
is
just
a
way
to
make
that
dialogue
more
approachable
right,
so
not
necessarily
like
here's
solutions.
K
D
K
B
Commissioner,
commissioner,
request.
H
I
yeah
just
to
add
a
little
more
context
to
what
andrea
was
mentioning
about
our
authority
to
hold
public
hearings
and
public
forums.
When
I
first
joined
the
commission
back
in,
I
think
it
was
2014,
so
it
had
been
fall
of
2014
the
commissioner.
The
commission
had
a
couple
of
forums
on
housing
issues
and
there
should
be
if
somebody
has
the
time
to
look
back
in
the
records
of
the
commission.
There
should
be
sort
of
a
summary
of
what
we
learned
from
those
hearings.
H
B
Would
you
be
interested
in
being
involved
in
looking
into
that,
or
maybe
even
you
know,
working
with
commissioner
lord
on
this
topic.
B
To
be
determined,
okay,
okay,
any
any
other
commissioners
for
discussion.
E
I
was,
I
was
just
going
to
enter
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
that
I
was
on
the
commission
so
long
ago
was
a
long
time
ago.
We
used
to
hold
public
hearings
all
the
time,
and
it
was
sort
of
it
was
hopefully
to
get
people
involved
on
civil
rights
issues,
and-
and
I
just
saw
this
as
being
a
possibility-
I'm
not
saying
that
we
should
open
up
with
a
public
hearing
right
away.
It
might
be
best
to
do
this
letter.
E
B
Definitely
if
it's
been
that
long,
since
we've
had
one,
I
think
commissioner
bergquist
said,
or
maybe
you
were
just
mentioning
the
housing
one
that
we
had
back
in
2014,
but
we'd
love
to
be
creative
ways
that
way.
B
Okay,
yeah,
so
that's
what
you
meant:
okay,
perfect
yeah!
That's!
I
think
we
could
definitely
figure
out
ways
to
to
get
that
incorporated
and
get
feedback,
but
we
have
caleb
with
your
hand
up
as
well.
I
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
May
I
just
wanted
to
add
kind
of
two
cents
from
the
department
perspective,
commissioner
devenish
had
brought
up
kind
of
collaborating
with
it
sounded
like
the
city,
in
addition
to
potentially
outside
entities,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
put
a
plug
in
here
that
the
folks
in
cped
that
do
this
work
that
we've
met
with
and
and
I
met
with
with
commissioner
lord
previously,
I
think,
would
definitely
be
open
to
further
conversation.
I
Both
you
know,
potentially
on
their
thoughts
on
the
letter
and
their
take
on
kind
of
how
best
to
potentially
address
this
issue.
But
then
I
also
think
they
might
be
a
good
resource
to
converse
with
prior
to
setting
up
that
public
forum
as
well.
They've
been
really
open
up
to
this
point,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
B
Thank
you.
You
know
one
of
the
thoughts
that
I
had
when
commissioner
definish
brought
that
up
was.
I
mean
why
not
even
reach
out
to
first
independence
bank,
because
that
is
a
part
of
their
mission.
If
you
have
had
a
chance
to
look
at
their
page
or
follow
their
social
media
presence,
you
know
they
really
are
focusing
on
reducing
those
disparities
in
communities
of
color,
and
so
I
just
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
idea
to
the
table,
and
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
again.
B
G
I
I
guess
I
just
feel
like
we
don't
necessarily
have
resolution
on
an
action
step,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
about
like
what
we
want
to
do.
I
mean
I
would
be.
I
thought,
commissioner
devinish's
idea
of
getting
you
know,
potentially
some
additional
organizations
to
support
it
and
have
it
be,
you
know,
issued
jointly
by
a
few
other
constituencies
made
a
ton
of
sense.
G
I'd
also
be
open
to
you
know
having
a
cped
review
it
as
well,
although
it's
hard
for
me
to
believe
a
city
department
would
sign
off
on
it
necessarily
I
mean
kayla,
you
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
they
could
probably
provide
some
feedback.
G
I
suppose,
but
is
that
the
route
that
we
want
to
take,
and
let's
also
kind
of
balance,
that
against
like
time
too
right
like
that'll,
take
a
month
or
two
months
or
something
like
that,
and
I
I
also
love
the
idea
of
like
doing
a
forum,
maybe
hosting
it
in
the
ward
in
which
the
majority
of
homes
or
homes
are
owned,
which
would
be
ward
4
might
be
a
great
place
to
do
that
as
well.
M
Yep,
thank
you
rather
than
you
know.
If
the
departments
aren't
inclined
to
to
support
they
should
you
know
we
should
at
least
be
having
the
departments
that
have
the
data
be
pre,
be
presenting
data
on
that
forum.
If
we
could
ask
them
to
pro,
you
know
provide
the
or
else
you
know
through
our
own
requests.
M
You
know
bring
data
from
those
departments
forward,
because
the
data
for
our
own
cities
should
be
in
our
hands
through
the
department
I
mean,
as
I
recall,
we
also
have
the
ability
to
do
research
projects
and
presentation
present
that
I
like
the
idea
of
a
public
hearing
so,
and
we
do
it-
you
know
with
with-
with
with
media
presence,
so.
F
G
G
Like
I
mean
I,
I
think
the
odds
are
very
good
that
they
will
front
yard,
will
ignore
it
because
there's
there's
really
very
little
upside
for
them
to
respond
to
it
right.
So
I
think
you
know.
Maybe
it's
like
a
parallel
path,
thing
where
we
send
it.
You
know,
as
is,
but
then
we
have
a
public
forum
in
the
in
the
fourth
ward.
G
We
can,
you
know,
start
to
talk
to
some
other
stakeholders
and
get
their
thoughts
and
their
feedback
on
maybe
action
steps,
but
that
we've
at
least
kind
of
got
some
momentum
going
and
have
done
something
concrete.
M
Measures
tonight
here,
I
I
I
think
that's
can't
hurt,
I
think,
as
long
as
we
have
a
parallel
path
mentioned
in
the
letter,
just
so
that
they
don't
look
at
the
letter
as
an
end
into
its
own
path.
But
you
know,
love
your
volunteer.
You
know
we
love
your.
You
know
to
voluntarily
attend
their
public
hearing
and
have
your
input
as
to
you
know
your
intent
for
the
community
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
you
know.
E
G
So
I'll,
just
I'm
going
to
like
I'm
going
to
make
an
emotion,
maybe
can
I
make
a
motion?
Is
that
okay,
like
I'm,
going
to
move
to
like
send
the
letter
within
a
append
additional
copy
that
we're
going
to
be
moving
forward
with
some
public
forums
and
that
we
will
look
forward
to
we?
Will
they
should?
They
should
expect
to
receive
an
invitation
to
them?
And
we
look
forward
to
their
input.
B
And
andrea
neef
is
asking
if
there's
been
a
motion
to
have
public
forums
or
have
a
public
forum.
J
Certainly,
thank
you
chairman.
If
I
may,
I
would
just
know
that
if
we
don't
have
a
motion
and
have
a
a
vote
to
have
a
public
form,
I
don't
know
that
I
would
include
it
in
a
letter
that
says
you're
going
to
have
a
public
form
if
we
haven't
put
that
on
the
agenda
yet
also
just
to
respond
to
the
question
about
whether
it
would
be
judicial
or
not.
No,
this
is
a
non.
J
This
is
not
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
in
the
nature
of
a
a
public
hearing
that
would
come
before
the
commission
due
to
a
charge
of
discrimination.
This
is
a
completely
different
type
of
public
meeting
that
that's,
not
judicial,
it's
more
informational
and
community
gathering
in
nature.
I
hope
that
clarifies
a
little
bit.
C
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
question
about
whether
we
I'm
just
really
not
sure
whether
we
can
bind
the
next
commission
to
having
a
hearing.
A
B
Kayla,
can
we
have
your
feedback
from
that,
or
is
that
the
commission's
feedback?
I
see
commissioner
request
over
here.
H
I
was
just
going
to
suggest.
One
thing
we
could
do
now
is
create
a
working
group
to
explore
the
idea
of
having
a
public
hearing
and
to
initiate
planning
so
that
so
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
until
what
february
of
next
year
to
get
moving
on
this.
That
way,
you
know
new
commissioners,
current
commissioners
who
are
continuing
on
and
new
commissioners
could
could
like
join
the
working
group,
and
people
can
get
started
on
it
as
soon
as
they're
interested
in
doing
so.
I
Thank
you
chairman.
I
think
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
say
is
that
just
the
department
would
discourage
additional
working
groups
just
because
there's
quite
a
few
public
meetings
that
already
need
to
be
noticed
and
everything
like
that
for
just
timing
for
our
staff,
so
that
would
be
my
two
cents.
I
do
tend
to
agree
that
binding
the
incoming
commission
is
potentially
not
ideal.
B
One
thing
I
want
to
add
to
that
is,
I
guess,
in
terms
of
being
able
to
have
something
secured
for
next
year,
a
working
group
would
be
the
best
way
to
go
about
that,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
until
until
february
to
hope
that
that's
something
that
can
because,
like
my
understanding,
is
that
the
task
force
is
there
to
last
one
year
right-
and
I
mean
I
mean
I
don't
know
we
can
get.
B
J
Yes,
thank
you
chairman
commissioners.
If
I
may
make
a
suggestion,
both
task
force
and
working
groups
are
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law
and
their
meetings
have
to
be
publicly
noticed
and
staffed,
and
I
hear
that
concern
in
in
kayla's
comment
that
there's
just
a
problem,
staffing,
so
many
meetings.
One
potential
alternative
is
to
have
a
a
group
consisting
of
not
of
a
quorum
of
any
subcommittee,
so
in
other
words,
no
more
than
one
person
from
each
subcommittee
could
be
on
it.
J
But
that
would
just
informally
begin
to
generate
ideas,
but
not
take
any
action.
If
there's
no
action
being
taken-
and
it's
just
an
informal
search
group
not
consisting
of
quorum,
that
just
starts
to
generate
ideas,
then
you
could
meet
informally
without
it
being
a
formal
task
force
or
working
group.
H
So
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
having
you
know,
people
who
express
interest
now
meeting
in
the
form
of
this
working
group
in
january,
and
certainly
if
there
are
no
subcommittees
meeting
in
january,
then
that
wouldn't
pose
any
additional
burden
on
the
department
staff,
so
it
in
my
view
it
would
allow
you
know
for-
and
you
know,
with
the
caveat
that
commissioners
whose
fate
on
continuing
on
the
commission
like
myself
is
in
is
unknown.
Maybe
they
shouldn't
be
part
of
it,
but
I
don't.
H
A
F
F
So
I
I
think
the
problem
is
evident
and
whatever
needs
to
be
taken
to
move
forward.
I
I
definitely
support
so.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Lord,
for
writing.
This
letter.
A
F
H
Yeah
I
could
participate
as
a
member
of
the
public.
I
suppose,
but
I
just
my
understanding
is-
I
won't
be
on
the
commission,
effective
january
1st,
because
the
hiring
or
whatever
process
hasn't
been
completed.
H
A
A
A
B
B
Housing,
equity,
yeah.
That
sounds
great.
I
like
that
strengths
based
so
working
group
focused
or
called
housing
equity
work
group
with
commissioner
lord
myself,
chairman
commissioner
devinish
commissioner
fine,
and
then
commissioner
yeah
we'll
have
commissioner
fine
and
then
knowing
that
commissioner
request
could
potentially
be
available
for
that.
As
a
public
member.
B
And
then
yeah,
so
that's
the
motion
and
we'll
have
the
clerk
call
the
roll.
Please.
H
C
Okay,
let's.
C
All
right,
it
looks
like
commissioner
herkman
joined
too
so,
commissioner,
may
yes,
please,
commissioner
kobia?
Yes,
commissioner
crowder.
D
H
E
C
B
Oh,
thank
you
that
motion
is
passed
and
we
will
have
a
housing
equity
working
group
to
work
towards
the
goals
in
this
letter
and
then
hopefully
potential
other
issues
related
to
housing
equity,
which
would
be
a
housing
forum,
a
public
forum
potentially
next
then,
for
our
motion.
Lineup,
oh,
is.
G
L
G
B
C
Okay,
commissioner,
may.
F
E
A
K
B
G
G
No,
I
really
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time
in
forbearance.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
ward.
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
file
and
receive,
receive
and
file
that
report
please
and
then
sorry
for
item
five
on
the
agenda
will
be
the
less
lethal
police
data
update,
which
will
be
given
by
commissioner
sunyani
and
I'll
invite
commissioner
sunyani
to
give
that
report.
Please
hi.
M
Hi
how's
everyone
doing
so
we
are
still
at
step
one
and
a
half.
We
have
had
data
request
after
data
request.
The
data
delivered
is
not
responsive
and
we
will
re
rekindle
this
january
first.
My
term
does
go
over,
so
they
aren't
getting
rid
of
me
yet
yeah,
so
kayla
I
haven't
heard
whether
or
not
there
was
any
other
things
going
on
so
kayla,
please
jump
on
in
here.
M
But
since
we've
had
this
thing
in
april,
we've
had
three
or
four
sets
of
data
given
to
us
of
the
data
given
to
us
only
the
manuals.
You
know
the
police
manuals
were
responsive.
Everything
else
has
been
either
obscured
by
open
data
and
exceptions,
or
it
just
hasn't
been
responsive.
We,
the
data
we
got
last
at
last
breath
was,
you
know,
bullets
instead
of
non-lethal
weapons
data,
and
it's
also
just
for
swat,
and
so
there
was.
It
was
also
missing.
M
The
2019
2020s,
but
there's
the
the
the
data
produced
is
defective
in
you
know
pretty
much
every
dimension
that
we
could
could
poke
for
or
not
hope
for,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
with
this
you
know
the
legacy.
Will
continue
next
year
in
january
or
february
as
we
continue,
you
know.
Those
who
can
continue
terms
will
re-engage
with
this.
A
That
sounds
great.
Thank
you,
commissioner
county,
and
are
there
any
questions
from
commissioners
at
this
moment.
B
Seeing
no
questions,
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
file
and
receive
that
report
and,
as
commissioner
sunyani
said
february,
hoping
to
re-engage
with
some
of
those
folks
too,
you
know
if
we
need
to
that
can
be
a
plan.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
that
going,
but
we
also
have
six
on
the
agenda
and
it
is
the
new
commission
plan
to
be
selected
by
or
that's
what
it
says
but
we'll
see.
B
Maybe
kayla
has
an
update
for
us,
but
regarding
the
new
commission,
but
my
note
just
says
that
it's
planned
to
be
selected
by
february
of
next
year
and
I'm
not
sure
I
think
the
applications
close
but
kayla
did
you
have
an
update
for
that.
I
Not
much
additional
than
what
you
just
noted,
sharon
may,
but
I'll
just
say
that
we
plan
to
go
through
the
appointment
process
in
the
month
of
january
and
we'll
be
inviting
commissioners
participation,
like
we've
done
in
the
past,
to
sit
on
interview
panels
as
you
are
interested
in
doing
so,
and
then
yes,
the
the
plan
and
the
hope
is
to
have
new
appointed
commissioners
ready
to
go
by
a
february
meeting.
Okay.
B
Yeah
and
then
we
have
an
introduction
of
our
new
civil
rights
interim
director.
So
is
that,
are
we
just
introducing
or
oh
there
we
go
hi,
okay,
hello,
thank.
L
You
jeremy,
so
I
thanks
for
allowing
me
time
on
the
agenda.
I
am
alberto
gillespie
and
I've
been
the
interim
civil
rights
director
for
about
five
weeks
now
so,
and
it
feels
like
ten
years
now
I
said,
but
for
five
weeks,
and
so
I
am
excited
to
be
in
this
position
and
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
each
and
every
one
of
you,
and
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
say
hello.
L
You
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
at
any
time
regarding
questions
and
and
I'd
love,
to
get
your
feedback
about
where
you
think
we
should
be
moving
and
going
as
a
department.
B
B
I
know
when
frank
was
the
director
just
had
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
connect
and
to
see
where
there
was
areas
of
growth
and
connection,
and
you
know
even
just
being
able
to
learn
some
parts
of
the
department,
so
that
was
really
appreciated
and
just
very
excited
to
have
you
on
board
and
welcome
that
that
open
communication
line
it's
much
appreciated
and
thank.
L
B
H
H
J
Yes,
chairman,
commissioner
bergquist,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
have
the
ordinance
in
front
of
me
and
I
am
attempting
to
answer
it,
but
don't
have
an
answer
at
the
ready.
I
hadn't
anticipated
that
question,
so
I
do
apologize.
J
I
will
look
into
the
question
of
whether
everyone
is
done
or
whether
terms
continue
pending
new
appointments
and
get
back
to
you,
if
not
by
the
end
of
the
meeting.
How
about
tomorrow.
H
Great
and
then
a
related
question
is
for
the
case
review
panels.
If
a
commissioner
has
sat
on
a
case
review
panel,
but
that
case
review
panel
hasn't
yet
wrapped
up
its
work
by
the
end
of
december.
If
we
are
no
longer
on
the
commission,
does
that
panel
have
to
re-revisit
the
case
with
a
new
slate
of
commissioners?
J
Right
chairman,
commissioner
berquist
thanks
for
the
question,
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
that
question,
but
I
can
look
into
it.
I
would
say
if
there
is
any
possible
way
to
wrap
it
up
by
the
end
of
your.
Obviously,
that
would
be
much
preferred,
but
I
will
I
will
look
at
the
rules
and
get
you
an
answer
to
that
question
as
well.
I
would
anticipate
that
I
would
just
send
that
to
kayla
who
can
circulate
it
or
to
staff
whoever's
circulating
things
at
this
time
who
can
circulate
it
as
needed.
B
You,
commissioner
bertquest,
I
was
curious
if
there's
anything
on
the
departments
and
while
we're
all
together
that
is,
I'm
slowing
down
the
completion
of
that
last
review
panel
or
anything
that
we
can
support
on
your
end,.
H
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
commissioner's
dignity's
fault,
but
I
you
know
there
were
delays
on
the
department's
end
that
made
it
so
that
these
review
committees
weren't
ready
to
deliberate
at
the
time
they
would
had
hoped
to
deliberate.
So,
but
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
the
department
can
do
at
this
stage.
Okay,
so
you.
B
Yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
commissioner
cobia.
C
That
commissioners
shall
indicate
their
committee
preferences
in
writing
to
the
newly
elected
chair
of
the
commission
at
the
january
meeting.
So
I
don't
know
what
legal
force
this
internal
operating
procedure
has,
but
we're
standing
or
looking
like
we'll
violate
it
just
fyi.
I
guess.
J
Yes,
after
that,
the
january
meeting
noted
by
commissioner
cobia,
we
have
the
internal
operating
rules,
do,
of
course
take
a
back
seat
to
the
ordinance
and
to
the
appointment
of
commissioners.
If
we
don't
have
enough
commissioners
for
a
commission,
the
the
internal
operating
rules
obviously
are
subservient
to
to
that
process.
J
As
far
as
you
know,
it
does
say
shall
take
place
in
january,
and
we
have,
in
the
past,
interpreted
that
that,
as
shall
take
place
at
the
very
first
meeting
of
the
year
and
shall
not
be
delayed
just
because
of
commissioner
preference
or
or
something
of
that
sort,
and
in
that
spirit
we
have
done
it
at
a
february
meeting
in
previous
years.
C
Yeah,
I
believe
we
did
that
this
year.
I
I
think
maybe
this
is
a
point
for
s
p,
to
consider
the
language
of,
or
maybe
we
can
figure
out
or
maybe
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
problem
going
forward,
but
now
this
is
the
second
straight
year
that
we're
missing
a
january
meeting
so
we're
down
to
only
11
meetings
a
year.
A
F
I
have
a
question
this
is
chair
devinus.
My
question
is:
is
there
anything
current
commissioners
can
do
to
help
expedite
the
process?
For
example,
I
brought
various
new
members
to
be
potential
members
of
the
commission,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
something
is
needed
to
help
bring
them
on.
Is
there
something
that
is
needed
that
we
can
help
with.
F
Yes,
it
was
directed
to
the
department
because,
basically,
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
move
forward,
so
I'm
just
wondering
again,
if
there's
something
we
can
do
to
you
know
current
commissioners
because
yeah
I
just
want
to
move
forward
without
losing
some
of
our
people
and
just
try
to
keep
them.
While
we
can.
So
I
don't
know,
what's
missing,
but
willing
to
extend
a
help
if
needed,.
I
I
I
will
say
that
we
made
a
decision
collectively
as
a
department
to
try
to
do
all
of
our
commission
appointments
in
unison
for
the
different
commissions
that
the
department
supports,
and
so
it
was
a
collective
decision
with
having
low
numbers
of
applications
for
our
commissions
that
we
give
everyone
some
more
time
and
we
extend
those
deadlines
and
things
like
that,
and
so
because
of
that,
it's
pushed
our
appointment
process
a
little
bit
further
down
the
road.
I
I
can
say
that
we'll
do
everything
in
our
power
to
expedite
it
and
do
it
as
efficiently
as
possible,
but
there's
nothing
that
the
commission
needs
to
do
at
this
point
other
than,
of
course
be
responsive.
When
we,
you
know,
invite
you
to
participate
in
the
interview
panels.
You
know
just
let
us
know
as
quickly
as
possible
if
you'd
like
to
be
involved
and
and
sign
up
for
the
slots
that
you
are
able
to.
That's
all
that
that
I
would
ask
at
this
point.
B
Item
six
on
the
agenda,
which
was
regarding
the
newly
planned
commission-
and
we
did
already
have
our
introduction
of
our
new
director
and
then
wanted
to
move
to
agenda
item
eight
for
new
business.
If
we
have
any
commissioners
that
have
any
new
business.
B
Unfinished
business
I
would
bring
up
would
be
the
department
of
justice.
I
literally
got
a
confirmation
from
them:
either
it
was
monday
or
tuesday
and
then
got
a
cancel
with
cancellation
from
them
literally
on
thursday.
So
curious
of
what
commissioner's
thoughts
are,
if
we
can
continue
to,
we
should
continue
to
engage
them
yeah,
just
wanting
some
more
feedback,
because
I
was
just
like.
B
Oh,
this
is
the
second
time
that
we've
saved
a
spot
on
our
agenda
for
you,
you
know,
and
then
this
happened
so
just
curious,
if
other,
if
we
should
continue
to
pursue
them
or
give
them
some
some
air
yeah.
Commissioner,
please.
B
B
B
So
I
can.
I
can
share
that
in
the
chat
for
commissioners,
if
people
didn't
want
to
still
like
send
comments
or
any
questions,
but
yeah,
that's
the
excuse
that
we
got
so
I
mean
this
was
unexpected
on
his
behalf
again,
I
understand
that.
D
E
B
Well,
commissioner,
sunyani
your
your
input
means
a
lot
to
me
being
that
you
know
we
had
a
chance
together
to
engage
with
ethan,
and
you
know
he
sounded
really
eager
to
engage
with
us.
So
you
know,
one
of
his
hopes
was
that
we
can
have
our
door
open,
hopefully
in
the
future,
and
so,
if
there's
some
some
better
planning,
maybe
we
can
get
something
on
the
books.
M
As
I
fully
expect
you
to
be
chair
again,
we'll
just
be
engaged
in
february.
A
B
B
D
D
I
should
tell
you
that
the
same
thing
is
happening
to
the
police
conduct
oversight.
Commission.
They,
you
know
one
of
the
excuses
they
had
to
extend
the
deadline.
D
This
seems
deliberate,
the
the
continual
lack
of
respect
for
your
commission
and
its
purposes,
and
the
other
you
know,
groups
involved
with
the
civil
rights
department
so
and,
of
course,
the
difficulty
in
getting
information
about
the
less
lethal
munitions.
D
It
was
the
city
council
that
that
asked
the
civil
rights
commission
to
look
into
this,
and
for
them
I
mean
it's
been
what
seven
months
or
something
since
they
passed
that
resolution
for
them
to
still
be
stalling,
either
through
the
police
department
of
the
civil
rights
commission
or
whoever
still
stalling
on
giving
you
the
information
you
need
for
that
again.
This
should
be
shocking
and
the
city
is
just
frustrating
any
efforts
towards
real
progress
on
civil
rights.
Thank
you.
B
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
comments
and
I
don't
think
there's
anybody
else
from
the
public
tonight,
but
thank
you
dave.
C
B
We'll
begin
with
community
engagement
and
research
subcommittee,
commissioner
folk.
K
Yeah
so
we
met
in
our
last
meeting.
We
met
to
discuss
kind
of
updates
regarding
the
awards
that
the
community
committee,
the
subcommittee,
has
been
leading
this
year,
and
so
we
had
just
kind
of
wrapped
up
our
last
round
of
nom
of
awardees,
and
commissioner
devenish
should
play
a
really
big
role
in
providing
the
certificates
to
all
of
the
awardees
and
so
we're
just.
K
We
were
just
discussing
for
the
next
round
of
awards,
and
we
just
wanted
to
put
out
a
call
and
reminder
to
the
broader
commission
that
when
we
had
discussed
the
awards
in
the
past
that
we
did
open
it
up
for
kind
of
the
commission
to
br
to
bring
any
nominations
of
any
nominees
for
considerations
or
just
wanted
to
bring
that
reminder
to.
The
broader
commission.
B
K
Happen
yeah,
so
I
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
to
circulate,
I
believe
we
had
discussed
and
a
couple
commission
meetings
ago,
the
broader
commission.
We
had
voted
and
proved
this
like
rough
outline
of
a
process
that
we
had
discussed
that
and
had
brought
through
from
the
subcommittee.
So
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
we
can
recirculate
that
to
the
broader
commission.
K
B
Great
thank
you
for
that.
Yes,
if
you
want
to
send
that
to
me
or
maybe
bcc
it
out
to
the
commission,.
A
B
Some
folks
nominated,
I
know,
there's
plenty
out
there
was
that
all
sorry,
commissioner,
folk.
B
And
then
we'll
move
to
the
standards
and
procedures
subcommittee
with
commissioner
fine,
our
terrifying
and
then
vice
chair,
dugnani.
E
Okay,
standards
and
procedure
has
nothing
to
report.
We
did
not
meet
in
the
last
month.
B
Commissioner,
fine,
we
have
work,
workforce
and
contract
compliance
subcommittee.
Commissioner
sunyani,
I
know
commissioner
rance
is
not
with
us
tonight.
Do
you
have
an
update
for
us?
M
B
B
I
And
I
can
jump
in
here
and
potentially
andrea
has
a
better
answer
to
this.
My
understanding
is
that
the
subcommittees
wouldn't
meet
until
a
new
commission
was
seated
with
subcommittees,
then
you
know
assigned,
but
why
don't
we
look
into
that
and
make
sure
that
is
in
fact
the
case
and
send
that
out
with
that
additional
information
tomorrow.
B
Okay,
we'll
do
do
you
have
an
update
for
us
at
the
department
level.
I
know
we've
kind
of
already
gotten
a
lot
of
updates
from
you
already.
I
I
So
thank
you
to
the
folks
who
are
able
to
finish
those
two,
but
I
believe
we
have
three
still
outstanding
and
we
would
really
appreciate
that
it
really
is
helpful
for
us,
especially
working
with
members
of
the
public,
to
be
able
to
get
them
an
answer
in
their
appeals
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
we
would
really
appreciate
that,
especially
if
there
is
any
possibility
that
we
would
have
to
reassign
panels.
That
will,
of
course,
be
a
large
additional
chunk
of
time
where
folks
are
waiting
for
a
decision
from
the
commission.
I
So
I
would
really
encourage
that
if
you
have
questions
and
concerns
about
anything
feel
free
as
always
to
reach
out
to
me,
I'm
happy
to
discuss
any
of
those
with
you
and
otherwise
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
the
commission
throughout
the
year,
and
I
wish
everyone
a
very
happy
holiday
season
and
look
forward
to
continuing
our
work
together
in
2022.
J
Yes,
I
I
did
want
to
just
jump
in
here
since
I
see
that
kayla
is
the
last
item
on
the
meeting,
and
I
didn't
want
us
to
adjourn
quite
so
quickly
when
I
thought
I
could
briefly
answer
your
questions
right
away
this
evening.
So
thank
you
for
humoring
me.
J
First
to
the
question
about
whether
the
commissioners
will
continue
on
until
a
new
commissioner
is
appointed.
Our
ordinance
does
provide
that
members
shall
continue
to
serve
until
their
successors
have
been
appointed
so
to
the
extent
that
no
new
commissioners
have
been
appointed
to
those
seats
in
january,
the
current
members
can
continue
to
serve
in
those
seats.
J
J
So
there
is
inefficiency
there,
so
hopefully
the
the
the
time
lag
can
provide
adequate
time
for
those
panels
to
be
wrapped
up.
J
As
to
the
question
of
the
committees,
the
committees
have
been
formed
according
to
the
iops
at
the
january
meeting
of
each
year,
but
there
is
no
explicit
rule
that
says
the
committees
are
disbanded
as
of
the
31st
of
the
year,
so
if
they
wanted
to
continue
meeting
in
january,
if
there's
no
new
commissioners
in
those
seats,
it
would
be
permitted
under
the
rules
for
the
subcommittees,
as
currently
constituted,
to
meet
again
one
more
time.
B
B
B
And
thank
you
to
all
the
commissioners
and
city
staff
that
have
been
a
part
of
the
commission
meetings
for
the
past
year
and
just
been
consistent
in
providing
updates
and,
and
you
know,
engaging
in
in
the
in
the
work
that
we're
doing
here.
So
I
do
want
to
give
you
a
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
hope
everyone
has
happy
holidays
with
that.
B
You
know
this
is
our
last
meeting
for
the
year
that
we
are
concluding
and
we'll
see
everyone
back
here
for
the
next
commission
meeting
on
january,
17th
2022
for
the
regular
meeting
as
miss
nef
just
described
any
commissioners
that
are
being
any
commissioner's
seats
that
are
being
replaced
this
year,
you
may
stay
on
the
commission
until
your
seat
is
taken
by
a
new
commissioner,
I'm
using
horrible
language.
I
apologize,
but.
D
B
Somebody
from
the
our
applicant
pool
has
been
able
to
take
your
seat,
so
please
welcome
to
come
to
the
january
17th
meeting,
but
seeing
no
further
business
to
come
before
us
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone
and
I
hope
you
have
a
great
night.