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C
B
B
All
dobson
joey
seems
to
be
having
technical
difficulties,
so
hopefully
she
will
be
back
colleen
ebbinger
here,
chloe
jackson.
F
G
H
A
B
Yes,
actually
it's
it's
adoption
of
the
agenda
is
the
first
is
the
next
one,
so
this
is
to
adopt
the
agenda
karina.
Bowler,
yes,
sprunner.
C
D
B
I
D
Queen
kimmins
charlotte
kinsley,
yes,
brenda
marcos
says
brendan
david
mcgee,
lisa
meers.
D
J
E
D
G
All
right
thanks
and
I'm
really
sorry.
Apparently,
teams
is
crashing
on
my
computer,
so
I'm
using
my
phone
for
teams
so
katie.
If
you
can
help
out
with
like
the
chat
and
stuff,
I'm
not
gonna
be
able
to
monitor
that.
So
at
this
point,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
minutes
from
our
april
meeting.
J
C
B
Yes,
all
right:
carina
bowler,
yes,
bruce
brunner,.
C
B
Yes,
brenda
marcos,
brenda
anya
she's
having
some
trouble
joining
yeah.
L
B
L
D
Janine
sija,
yes,
cecil
smith,.
M
N
G
All
right,
thanks,
katie
and
everybody
good
to
see
you
all
or
hear
your
voices
next
on
our
agenda
is
our
committee's
public
comment
opportunity.
As
you
all
know,
we
make
time
we
set
aside
10
minutes
on
each
of
our
agendas
to
hear
public
comments
from
non-committee
members.
H
G
With
anyone
who
is
here
to
share
a
public
comment
as
needed,
so
if
anyone
is
present
here
today
to
make
a
public
comment,
you
can
unmute
yourself
now
by
pressing
star
six
and
state
your
name
and
then
we'll
call
on
individuals
to
make
their
comment.
So
is
anyone
here
on
the
phone
to
make
a
comment
unmute
by
pushing
star.
G
G
G
B
Yep,
I
can
get
us
started,
so
we
wanted
to
follow
up.
At
the
april
meeting,
you
received
a
presentation
about
the
city's,
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
and
qualified
allocation
plan.
So
we
just
wanted
to
share
the
timeline
on
that
process.
So
the
that
has
been
open
for
public
comment.
It
is
going
to
be
brought
to
the
city's
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
on
may
18th
for
approval
the
change
the
proposed
changes
to
the
program
and
then
at
that
point
staff
will
issue.
B
Once
it's
received.
Council
approval
will
issue
the
request
for
proposal,
that's
slated
to
be
issued
in
june
so
that
at
that
point,
interested
applicants
and
developers
can
apply
for
that
funding
and
then
the
selections
the
applications
are
due
later
in
the
summer
and
then
the
selections
come
to
the
city
council
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
that's
that's
the
update.
B
So
if
you
were
interested
in
kind
of
seeing
that
next
step
and
what's
if,
if
the
council
adopts
some
of
those
changes
that
were
presented
at
our
at
our
meeting
in
april,
then
you
could
watch
that
may
18th
biz
committee
meeting.
K
O
N
B
Queen
glad
you're
here
finally
got
on
good,
so
the
next
update
I
just
wanted
to
related
to
the
eviction
moratorium.
B
Got
it?
Okay?
I
don't
know
why
that
is
but
glad
you're
glad
you're
here,
so
the
eviction
moratorium.
Some
of
you
may
have
seen
the
news
yesterday
that
there
was
a
and
joey,
maybe
can
elaborate
on
this
more
when
I'm
done,
but
there
was
a
decision
in
federal
court
to
pause
the
federal
eviction
moratorium
that
is
being
appealed
by
the
depart,
the
u.s
department
of
justice.
B
The
state's
eviction
moratorium
is
still
in
effect,
so
minnesota's
eviction
moratorium
is
in
effect.
You
know
the
governor
is
making
decisions
about
the
peacetime
emergency
powers.
He
made
some
announcements
about
those
today,
but
there
is
discussion
happening
at
the
legislature
currently
about
a
possible
ramp
down
from
the
eviction
moratorium,
and
so
those
conversations
are
ongoing.
But
currently
the
state's
eviction
moratorium
is
in
effect,
and
so
I
know
joey
and
cecil
and
others
on
the
committee
are
probably
heavily
involved
in
some
of
those
conversations.
N
This
is
queen,
I
like
to
add
that
myself
and
I
believe
it
was
legal
aid.
We
had
a
eviction
form
and
we
will
have
another,
and
I
will
let
this
group
know,
or
someone
from
this
group
that
works
with
legal
aid,
will
let
let
us
know
how
we
can
join
in.
Thank
you.
M
Katie,
yes,
just
on
that,
so
the
eviction
moratorium
and
lease
termination
moratorium.
Warframe
proposals
are
before
the
house
omnibus
conference
committee,
the
house,
omnibus
police
conference
committee,
so
those
discussions
they
started
on
monday.
They
had
a
preview
of
the
bill,
but
they
still
haven't
figured
out
the
targets,
and
so
the
conference
committee
hasn't.
Since
this
discussion
is
in.
B
Thank
you
cecil.
That
is
a
helpful
update.
Okay,
the
next
item
in
our
update
section
was,
is
rent
stabilization
and
robin.
Do
you
have
any
updates
you
want
to
provide
related
to
that?
I'm
not
sure
that
much
has
changed
since
last
month.
I
think
things
are
still
kind
of
in
the
same
place
they
were,
but
if
you
have
anything
you
want
to
share.
P
Yes,
I'd
be
happy
to
so.
The
public
hearing
has
been
set
for
may
18th
and
there
is
language
that
folks
can
see.
I
will
put
it
in
the
chat
for
everybody
who
can
use
the
chat.
Oh,
you
know
what
it's
telling
me
that
the
chat
is
muted,
so
I
can't
put
it
in
there.
P
But
yeah
there
is
oh
look
at
that
freed
up
for
me.
So
there's
the
the
language
of
the
proposed
ordinance
and
the
the
meeting
is
at
1
30
on
may
18th
at
the
business
inspection,
housing
and
zoning
committee
of
the
minneapolis
city
council.
G
Sorry
to
interrupt
robin
yeah,
we
are
definitely
going
to
be
talking
a
lot
more
about
notice.
I
think
katie
was
maybe
asking
if
you
had
any
updates
on
rent
stabilization.
P
I'm
sorry
can
I.
P
Just
I
just
heard
you
say
a
completely
different
thing,
so
no,
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
big
updates,
so
the
the
only
thing
that
has
really
happened
is
that
the
charter
commission
identified
a
couple
of
things
that
that
I
would
put
in
the
category
of
like
technical
amendments
that
need
to
happen
to
the
charter
amendments
that
that
were
sent
forward
by
the
council,
and
we
have
worked
with
the
attorney's
office
and
the
charter
commission
members
helpfully.
P
I
expect
that
it
is
going
to
be
sent
back,
maybe
even
a
little
bit
before
the
150
days,
that
the
charter
commission
has
to
to
to
consider
those
amendments.
But
you
know
we'll
we'll
know
when
we
know
I.
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
that
anybody
can
say.
That's
like
definitive
about
that
timeline.
B
Thanks
robin
so
yes,
and
then
we
are
going
to
be
talking
more
about
the
renter
eviction
protection
ordinance
later
in
the
meeting,
which
is
what
robin
was
talking
about.
So
we'll
get
to
that.
That's
our
last
agenda
item
and
our
next
agenda
item
is
emergency
rental
assistance.
So
we
aren't.
We
don't
have
updates
on
that
in
this
section,
so
other
those
those
are
the
updates
I
had.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
anything
they
want
to
raise
in
this
section.
B
Briefly,
before
we
move
on,
I
defer
to
the
chairs,
I
guess
on
on
anything
else,.
O
There's
a
lot
of
background
noise.
I
don't
know
who's
the
admin
of
this,
but
if
someone
could
maybe
do
some
meeting
that'd
be
really
helpful.
B
B
J
B
G
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
reiterate,
I
think,
since
we
didn't
have
public
comment
and
and
things
we
do
have
we
freed
up
a
few
minutes
of
our
time
we
do
want
to
spend.
Our
plan
was
to
spend
about
half
an
hour
talking
about
rent
assistance
and
then
our
final
hour
on
the
eviction
protection
ordinance.
But
if
anyone
has
anything
now,
I
think
we
could
spend
a
couple
minutes.
G
If
anyone
has
other
issues,
they
want
to
make
sure
to
raise
updates
related
to
housing
in
the
city
or
want
to
you
know,
ask
any
questions
about
future
agenda
topics
feel
free
to
do
so
now,
since
we
have
a
few
minutes.
N
Hi
this
is
coin
again.
I
would
like
to
raise
a
topic
about
these
encampments
that
are
bulldozed
over,
and
so
I
you
know,
and
then
I
see
other
outreach
staff
raising
money
for
blankets
and
to
repair
tarps
and
tents,
and
I
think
that
you
know
with
the
housing
shortage
and
evictions
coming
and
people
already
starting
to
live
back
outside.
L
G
Know
in
our
in
some
of
our
kind
of
planning
meetings,
this
topic
has
come
up
and
so
at
our
next
one,
let's
talk
about
maybe
from
city
staff,
might
have
some
ideas
about.
G
You
know
letting
us
know
what
specifically,
the
cities
has
in
the
in
the
works
for
encampments,
especially
as
you
mentioned,
as
the
weather
gets
warmer.
So,
let's
all
make
a
note
to
put
that
on
our
planning
meeting
for
our
next
planning
meeting
is
leadership.
Thank.
K
You
hey,
this
is
karina.
I
want
to
speak
on
some
things.
K
I
would
like
to
put
this
on
record
that
we
need
to
talk
more
about
tenant
data
privacy
act
and
it's
something
that
I'm
hearing
on
some
calls
that
I'm
on
and
that
is
pertaining
to
property
owners,
collecting
data
on
tenants
without
their
permission
and
using
it
in
ways
that
tenants
don't
have
the
consent
or
understand
what
it's
being
used
for
and
making
sure
that
the
courts
are
aware
of
it
as
well,
making
sure
that
tenants
give
them
the
right
to
do
it.
K
So
that's
something
that's
coming
up
a
lot
on
the
cause
that
I'm
on
is
about
tenet
data,
privacy
acts
and
another
thing
is
to
consider
having
legislation
to
start
a
right
to
council
law
to
protect
wrenches
in
court,
especially
for
renters,
who
don't
know
their
rights
and
and
creating
some
sort
of
tenant
political
action
committee,
and
that's
just
keeping
tabs
on
you
know
a
lot
of
the
things
that's
happening
in
the
city
regarding
fair
housing,
making
sure
that
naacp
someone
housing
is
involved
with
all
these
housing
issues.
K
That's
going
on
and
someone
within
the
city
rights,
civil
rights
department
as
well
that
that
deals
with
housing.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
lot
of
right
people
on
these
comedian
boards,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
landlords
and
people
that's
profiting
off
these
committees.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
housing
and
keeping
people
housed
and
protecting
those
who
don't
know
that
they
have
rights.
G
Thanks
karina,
you
brought
up
a
lot
of
really
important
issues,
a
couple
things
that
I'll
maybe
lift
up
out
of
there
from
like
kind
of
from
the
city
perspective.
One
is
you
mentioned,
you
know,
legislation
around
right
to
council.
I
do
know
that
we'll
be
considering
or
the
plan
would
be
for
this
committee
to
weigh
in
on
the
city's
budget
and
that's
one
one
place
where
right
to
counsel
can
be
considered.
At
least
there
are
some
contracts.
G
G
I
would
just
say
that's
one
way
that
we
could
weigh
in
on
on
that
from
a
city
funding
perspective,
and
I
know
we'll
be
tracking
the
budget
once
the
mayor's
proposed
budget
comes
out.
That's
I
think,
august.
Usually,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
see
rose
nodding
your
head.
Thank
you.
Resident
budget
expert
rose
one
of
them
anyway,
so
that'd
be
one
kind
of
way
that
I
think
we
could
address
that
would
be
through
our
budget
comments
on
the
budget.
G
Then
you
also
mentioned
kind
of
civil
rights
and
housing
and
that
I
think,
brings
up
a
really
an
area
that
we
haven't
talked
about
to.
My
in
my
recollection
on
this
committee
is
the
city's
department
of
civil
rights
and
what
the
work
that
they
do
around
housing.
So
maybe
that'll
be
another
thing
that
I'll
put
on
my
list
to
discuss
in
our
upcoming
planning
meeting,
because
I
do
think
that
that's
a
piece
that
we
haven't
touched
on
as
a
committee
directly
at
least
or
heard
from
city
staff
on
so.
G
Notes
of
that
and
others
katie
and
others
can
help
make
sure
that
we
get
those
topics
addressed.
So
thank
you.
You're
welcome.
Q
I
actually
have
a
question:
that's
somewhat
related,
but
I
would
be
curious
to
hear
more
about
how
the
city
is
spending
the
federal
money
I
received
on
housing
outside
of
emergency
assistance,
whether
that's
the
tenant,
these
tenant
protections
or
other
ways
that
the
city
is
using,
that
federal
funding
on
housing.
B
And
just
a
real
quick
note
on
that,
maybe
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
referring
to
the
money
from
the
american
rescue
plan
so
the
there
we
are
still
waiting
on
federal
guidance
for
that
money.
We
expect
to
get
it
next
week
and
then
anticipate
that
there
will
be
sort
of
some
funding
that
goes
out
in
likely
june
on
and
then
probably
another
round
of
that
funding.
That
goes
out
later.
J
B
Year
and
we
fully
anticipate
that
there
will
be
a
significant
amount
of
money
used
for
housing
and
homelessness
response
based
on
the
mayor
and
council's
priorities,
so
that
I
I
think
june
could
be
a
potentially
a
good
time
to
provide
an
update
on
that
or
maybe
even
june
or
july.
I
think
will
be
a
good
time
to
provide
an
update
on
on
that
funding.
B
C
I
had
one
piece
I
was
interested
in
knowing
as
we
talk
about
housing
I
like
to
know.
I
get
notifications,
sometimes
from
the
city
when
I
apply
for
things
that
wait
times
for
city
staff,
to
get
back
on
issues
or
permits,
or
a
lot
of
different
things
has
been
extended
because
they've
furloughed
or
have
reduced
reduced
staff,
so
I'm
interested
to
know
have
we
reduced
staff
and
inspections?
Have
we
reduced
staff
in
city
planning
which
allows
more
housing
to
be
built?
And
you
know
what's
what's
going
on
in
that
arena?.
L
So
I
can
answer
this
one.
So,
yes,
the
city
last
year
went
through
a
fairly
significant
hiring
freeze,
along
with
some
budget
cuts
that
did
reduce
staffing
in
inspections
and
cped
and
other
areas.
L
We
are
starting
to
staff
back
up
now,
slowly
as
as
as
the
budget
permits,
but
yes
that
we
did
see
some
reduction,
although
at
least
for
inspections,
if
you
have
a
if
you're
calling
3-1-1
and
we
are
able
to
get
out
to
people
pretty
quickly,
either
in
person
or
with
a
virtual
cop
inspection,
so
we're
making
that
response
to
complaint
a
priority.
C
Yeah
I
just
saw
one
yesterday
on
on
permits
and
I
went
through
a
full
permitting
of
building
more
housing
and
it
took.
I
mean
the
hoops
were
just
unbelievable,
because
people
would
send
stuff
back
without
even
looking
at
anything,
and
then
they
get
another
two
weeks
to
answer.
Well
that
that's
on
page
five,
you
didn't
even
look
yeah.
L
C
L
Yeah
absolutely
bruce
and
I'm
not
really
sure
where
we're
at
with
cpad
and
their
permit
and
permit
staff,
but
I'd
certainly
be
willing
to
like
check
in
on
that
and
see
what's
going
on
with
with
the
cped
permitting
teams,
so
code,
construction
services.
C
F
I'll
just
add
too
in
terms
of
the
staffing
and
is
you
know
very
related
to
the
budget
process,
and
so
just
for
us
to
for
the
committee
to
note
that,
as
you
dig
into
the
budget
this
year,
there
will
be.
You
know,
information
on
the
increased
staffing
levels
based
on
you
know.
Last
year
talked
a
couple
times
about.
There
was
the
the
cut
budget
and
then
there
was
for
2020
and
then
there's
the
2021
budget,
and
I
think
mostly
this
committee
generally
focuses
on
sort
of
the
housing
program.
G
Thanks,
andrea,
that's
super
helpful,
I'm
sure
we'll
be
in
touch
before
we,
the
next
meeting
where
we
talk
about
the
budget.
I
think
it's
helpful
thanks
everyone
for
contributing.
It's
really
helpful
for
us.
You
know
guiding
the
agendas
on
this
to
at
least
periodically
kind
of
put
the
call
out
for
what
folks
want
to
make
sure
we
spend
our
time
on
to
make
sure
that
it's
what
you
all
want
want
to
be
talking
about,
so
obviously
always
open,
open
door.
Email
us
reach
out
to
us.
G
If
there's
ever
a
topic
that
you
think
we're
missing
or
something
that
you
want
to
make
sure
get
some
time
on
the
agenda,
don't
hesitate
all
right.
So
I
think
time
to
move
on
to
our
next
topic.
We
and
it
just
kind
of
came
up
a
little
bit
with
the
funding
but
rent
help
minnesota.
G
The
current
wave
of
covid
related
emergency
rental
assistance
is
open
and
has
been
for
a
few
weeks
we
sent
out
our
staff
sent
out
the
opportunity
for
folks
to
send
in
any
feedback
that
they
have,
if
they've,
either
experienced
directly
or
worked
with
others
who
have
attempted
to
or
successfully
accessed
the
rent
help
mn
system.
Thanks
to
maggie
and
cecil
for
submitting
comments,
I
think
tina
and
katie
circulated
a
word
document
that
you
all
should
have
access
to
a
little
bit
before
the
meeting.
G
So
those
comments
along
with
some
from
legal
aid,
are
in
that
document,
so
we
did
want
to
set
aside
a
decent
amount
of
time.
For
this
conversation,
I'm
hoping
maybe
katie,
can
you
give
just
a
little
bit
of
a
recap
for
folks
where
we're
at
with
the
program
what
we
know
about
how
it's
working
so
far
kind
of
data
wise
and
then
maybe
we
can
share
then
give
people
an
opportunity
to
share
any
additional
feedback.
B
Sure
yep
I
can
share
and
I
did
share
my
screen.
Can
you
see
that
with
the
document
that
was
sent
around
and
for
those
who
are
on
the
phone
from
the
public?
I
think
we,
if
we
didn't,
get
it
up
on
the
agenda,
we
will,
but
we
can
talk
about
what
it
says,
but
just
in
terms
of
an
update.
So
yes,
you're
right.
The
rent
help
mn
is
the
statewide
website
that
is,
and
it's
a
centralized
application.
B
So
the
jurisdictions
that
received
a
direct
allocation
of
funding
have
collaborated
with
the
state.
The
state
led
the
development
of
of
the
website
and
the
application
and
we're
all
using
that
as
the
centralized
application
portal
for
the
the
way
for
people
to
apply
so
so
that
somebody
doesn't
need
to
know
if
they're
applying
to
like
minneapolis's
pot
of
funds
or
the
state's
pot
of
funds.
B
If
they
live
in
minneapolis,
they
can
just
apply
through
rent
help
mn
and
then
we're
kind
of
sorting
that
out
behind
the
scenes,
minneapolis
has
hired
processors
to
process
applications
for
minneapolis
funds.
Those
processors
are
clues:
new
american
development
center,
north
point,
health
and
wellness,
lutheran
social
service
and
minneapolis
public
housing
authority.
B
B
B
B
Work
on
that
is
going
on
and
we'll
have
more
to
share,
hopefully
very
soon
on
what
that
will
look
like,
and
then
the
state
also
contracted
with
field
navigators
who
are
able
to
assist
people
with
applying
and
so
and
and
oh.
The
other
piece
I
should
mention
is
that
two
one
one
is
open
and
available
for
people
to
call
for
assistance.
B
It
is
my
understanding
is
two
on
one:
is
assisting
renters
and
not
property
owners
who
are
calling
for
assistance
right
now.
The
way
for
property
owners
to
get
assistance
is
to
email.
B
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
what
the
email
address
is,
but
there's
an
email
address
specifically
for
property
owners,
but
the
state
did
hire
some
field
navigators
who
can
also
assist
with
applica
with
people
who
are
applying
the
city
and
hennepin
county
jointly
issued
an
rfp
a
few
weeks
ago
as
well
to
hire
additional
field
navigators
we're
in
the
process
of
of
getting
contracts
for
those
organizations
again,
the
the
idea
is
that
they
can
go
out
and
do
more
direct
assistance
for
people
who
are
trying
to
apply
for
for
rent
assistance.
B
Oh,
the
last
piece
I
should
mention
is
that
under
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
there
is
additional
money
coming.
We
just
this
week
heard
from
treasury
asking
for
us
to
elect
whether
we
want
to
receive
those
funds.
So
we
are
doing
that
process.
We
don't
yet
know
how
much
money
it
is
that
the
city
will
be
getting
directly.
We
still
haven't
gotten
that
number.
Our
our
estimates,
though,
have
been
somewhere
between
nine
and
eleven
million
dollars,
and
then
andrea
inouye
has
been
working
pretty
closely
on
this
as
well.
F
B
G
Thanks
yeah
thanks,
I
think
that's
really
helpful
thanks,
katie
and
andrea,
so
I
think
maggie
and
cecil-
and
I
all
submitted
some
comments
in
writing
that
are
in
this
document
that
katie
has
shared
now.
G
I
want
to
first
see
if
anyone
else
wants
to
share
any
comments
on
any
feedback
on
how
the
program
is
working
based
on
either
your
own
experience
working
with
it
either
for
you
personally
or
on
behalf
of
someone
else
or
what
you're
hearing
from
folks
you
work
with
the
goal
here
is
to
generate
these
cut
this
feedback
and
then
decide
whether,
as
a
group,
it's
feedback
that
we
want
to
share
sort
of
formally
or
publicly
with
the
city
as
they're.
G
G
Now,
as
katie
said,
some
of
it
is
determined
by
the
state,
because
the
city
is
kind
of
working
with
the
state's
umbrella
program
using
2-1-1
and
all
of
that,
but
to
the
extent
that
the
city
can
either
pass
it
on
or
or
do
something
about
some
of
the
concerns
we
felt
like
you
know,
rent
assistance
and
emergency
assistance
has
come
up
time
and
time
again
in
this
space,
and
this,
I
think,
is
a
good
moment
to
provide
the
feedback
that
we
all
have.
G
So
it
do
others.
This
is
kind
of
open
floor
and
we've
got
some
time
for
this
conversation.
So
if
others-
who
maybe
first
others
who
did
not
have
a
chance
to
submit
something
in
writing,
will
open
the
floor
for
you
know
kind
of
just
sharing
verbally
any
feedback
you
might
have.
N
Hello,
this
is
queen
real,
real
quickly.
I
think
that
what
I
would
say,
I
kind
of
you,
know,
agree
somewhat
with
this
document
one
it
is.
The
information
has
been
put
out
there,
but
it
only
a
selective
few
people
are
able
to
process
that
information
or
get
that
information
to
them.
N
I
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
take
for
us
to
put
this
information
out
there,
so
other
people
can
start
to
buy
in
alleviate
a
higher
rate
of
people
going
through
evictions,
and
so
I
would
like
to
say
that
part.
N
The
other
part
is
that
I
don't
see
I've
went
through
a
bunch
of
portals
and
all
that
I
still
don't
know
how
to
access
that
document,
and
so
that
other
people,
you
know
that
I
know
the
network
of
people
that
I
know
that
we
could
start
having
some
conversation
about
that
and
just
spread.
The
word
word
of
mouth,
but
definitely,
if
there's
like
communities
that
we
would
like
to
put
a
little
flyer
together
and
and
have
more
information
about
that,
I
would
love
for.
I
would
love
to
see
that
kind
of
happen.
N
Where
you
know
we
could
get
more
people
to
participate,
who
are
really
struggling
and
again
a
lot
of
people.
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
some
some
individuals
don't
really
learn
by
reading.
They
learn
by
pictures,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
to
do
that.
I'm
over
here
in
the
native
american
side
of
town
right
now
and
I'm
certain
that
people
probably
are
aware,
but
for
the
people
that
need
this
resource,
the
most
are
probably
a
further
from.
N
You
know
this
information,
so
I
would
like
to
see
how
I
can
participate
and
help
in
doing
that.
I'm
gonna
recuse
myself
from
that.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks
queen-
and
maybe
I
can
just
comment
on
that
briefly-
we
do
have
some
materials.
B
The
state
has
put
together
different,
like
messaging
materials
that
I
believe
we
could
share
with
the
committee
I'll
double
check
on
that,
but
I
think
we
could
share
those
for
anybody
who
wants
to
help
spread
the
word
and
then
the
other
piece
I'll
just
add
is
that
we
did.
Our
processors
have
gone
on.
B
The
city
has
cultural
shows
on
the
cultural
radio
stations,
and
so
I
know
clues
went
on
the
the
spanish
speaking
show
and
we've
had
others
on
some
of
our
other
cultural
radio
programs
to
spread
the
word.
We
may
do
that
again
as
this
continues
but
appreciate
queen.
I
think
that's
right.
We
need
to
make
sure
the
word
is
getting
out
to
everybody
as
many
ways
as
possible,
so
certainly
happy
to
share
materials
with
you.
If
you
are
interested
in
spreading
the
word.
G
Yeah
thanks
queen
so
much
I
don't
know
katie
as
you're
going
here.
It
might
be
hard
for
me
to
stay
on
my
see
your
screen,
but
do
you
mind
taking
notes
of
what
some
of
these
additional
comments
are
to
add
to
this
document?
G
Yes,
I
will
do
that
thanks
so
yeah
queen.
What
I'm
hearing
from
you
is
a
real
need
to
make
sure
that
the
information
is
getting
out
to
people,
especially
for
people
who
you
know,
don't
speak
english,
don't
don't
take
an
information
verbal!
You
know
by
reading
that
I
think,
that's
really
critically
important.
G
G
D
B
B
G
B
B
Weird
she's
unmuted
on
her
end
but
she's,
showing
up
here
as
muted.
That's
strange.
B
G
Yeah,
absolutely
sorry:
okay,
all
right!
I'm
looking
at
my
list,
I'm
not
seeing
other
hands,
but
I
couldn't
believe.
K
Okay,
so
I'm
kind
of
very
concerned
about
tenants
who
are
sacrificing
everything
to
pay
the
rent,
but
some
people
are
still
getting
evicted,
even
if
they're
getting
the
money
to
the
landlord
where
they're
requesting
the
rent
relief
and
some
members
are
still
fighting
like
loopholes.
You
know
just
just
evicted
them
in
general.
So
where
is
the
protection
for
that
as
well?
So
of
the
question
would
take
me
back
to
how
much
is
rent
relief
really
helping
renters
I'm
joined
as
a
moratorium?
G
G
I
know
our
office
is
tracking
those
cases
closely
and
screening,
for
you
know,
what's
going
on
in
the
case,
and
the
court
does
that
to
some
extent
too,
if
the,
if
somebody
right
now
files
a
case,
that's
just
about
rent
the
court
will
let
them
know
that
that's
not
allowed
right
now,
but
I
hear
what
you're
saying
is:
they're,
not
necessarily
making
it
about
rent
they're,
finding
another
reason
to
maybe
either
bring
an
eviction,
action
or
terminate
their
lease
or
asking
them
to
leave.
K
Means
june
30th
and
then
so
what
would
be?
The
plan
to
you
know
help
protect
those
renters
that
is
facing
those
cause.
Burdens
of
you
know
losing
their
jobs
because
of
the
shutdown,
but
they
you
know
still
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
unemployment
or
whatever
their
income
is
or
is
still
looking
for
a
job
they'll
still
be
possibly
tossed
on
the
street.
K
You
know
because
of
all
of
this
stuff,
so
we
just
we
gotta.
We
gotta
find
some
real,
concrete
solutions
to
help
the
renters
and
you
know,
protect.
You
know
those
landlords
who
are
helping
their
rent.
You
know
their
tenants
as
well,
I'm
not
gonna,
say
I'm
not
gonna.
K
So
it's
just
too
many
loopholes,
but
these
renters
are
suffering
at
the
hands
of
this
pandemic
and
they're
end
up
tossed
on
the
street
with
their
children.
So
I
don't
know
I'm
just
it
just
seems
like
it's
too
much
lip
service
and
enjoy
your
ass,
so
that
I
did
see
your
your
comments
to
that
people
are
being
asked
to.
You
know
give
too
many
documentations
that
not
needed
for
what
they're
asking
like
personal
documentation
like
child
court
order,
income
type
stuff.
G
Yeah
so
I'm
hearing,
you
know
a
few
pieces,
a
few
critical
pieces
of
feedback.
Maybe
we
can
add
from
your
perspective
about
making
sure
that
the
city
is
exploring
other.
You
know
housing
stability
measures
in
addition
to
rent
being
one
another,
making
sure
that
any
and
katie
mentioned
that
they're
working
on
a
direct
landlord,
a
property
owner
application
process,
making
sure
that
they're
kind
of
things
in
place
to
make
sure
that
the
money
is
going
where
it
should
go
right
that
property
owners
aren't
collecting
money.
G
You
know
for
a
unit
where
they
shouldn't
those
are
a
few
things
that
I'm
hearing
and
then
you
also
kind
of
also
sharing
the
concern
about
burdensome
documentation
requirements.
I
guess
those
are
kind
of
maybe
what
I
would
what
I'm
hearing
from
you.
G
Do
you
know
janine,
do
we
have
you
back?
Are
you
here
via
phone
or
can
you
hear
us
now?
You
still
look
muted
to
me
on
your
box.
G
H
Yeah,
that's
okay.
I
seem
to
with
this
particular
meeting.
I
seem
to
have
an
issue
where
I'm
unmuted.
I
appear
to
be
unmuted
on
my
end,
but
nothing
allows
me
to
fully
unmute,
so
I'm
dialed
in-
and
I
put
my
feedback
in
the
chat,
but
just
you
know
briefly.
H
I
haven't
interacted
with
the
system
except
to
go
in
and
just
look
at
what
the
process
would
be
like
for
someone
applying
and
then
reading
kind
of
the
commentary
in
the
document.
When
we
started
this
section,
it
feels
like
there
should
be
some
recourse
to
go
back
to
whoever's
created
the
website
to
make
some
adjustments
some
enhancements
to
make
it
easier.
H
G
Great
thanks
thanks
janine,
let's
see
cecil,
says.
M
So
I
want
to
elevate
the
conversation
a
little
bit
here
from
just
this
kind
of
critique.
I
actually
think
we
have
a
crisis
on
our
hands
and
I'm
not
an
alarmist
person,
but
I
have
not
aware-
and
I
have
surveyed
our
industry
and
I
did
a
we
did-
a
quick
survey
of
over
100
property
management
companies.
M
I
have
had
many
many
property
management
companies
say
when
it
comes
to
the
the
part
of
the
process
where
the
landlords
have
to
verify
and
approve
the
system.
Locks
up
and
and
maggie
has
and
her
comments
confirmed
what
is
a
very
typical
occurrence
there,
the
system
just
locks
up,
and
so
there's
some
technical
issues,
and
then
it's
great
that
you
put
the
the
the
email
address,
but
there
is
no
response
to
that.
Email
address
and
people
call
two
one
one
and
they
log
a
ticket.
M
It's
a
technical
ticket
that
the
landlords
can
log
with
two
one,
one
and
they're
being
told
three
weeks
up
to
three
weeks
before
you'll
get
a
response
just
on
your
technical
ticket,
not
just
to
complete
the
application
just
to
address
the
issue
that
you're
raising,
so
we
as
the
industry
are
very,
very
upset.
M
M
Something
has
to
be
done.
We
can't
fix
it,
we're
we're
consumers
like
like
renters,
and
we
can't
fix
this,
and
we
have
property
taxes
due
on
may
15th,
and
we
are
now
starting
to
have
owners
having
to
do
capital
calls.
M
There
is
not
sufficient
cash
available
to
pay
the
property
taxes,
and-
and
so
this
is
going
to
be
a
potentially
a
spiraling
crisis
now
clearly,
they
want
to
pay
their
property
taxes.
They
don't
want
to
be
delinquent,
which
is
why
they're
doing
the
capital
calls,
but
that
should
not
be
necessary
when
we
have
half
a
billion
dollars
of
rental
assistance
and
we're
one
of
the
last
states
to
launch
our
program
and
it
doesn't
work.
M
So
I
I
I
just
think
we
need
to
take
this
conversation
from
kind
of
this
talking
around
the
edges
of
that
we
actually
have
a
system
failure
on
our
hands
right
now.
I'm
very
pleased
to
hear
that
the
city
of
minneapolis
is
thinking
about
directing
some
of
their
assistance
towards
a
direct
to
an
alternative
program,
alternative
processing
with
direct
landlord
assistance,
because
we've
got
to
get
some
of
this
money
out
and
it
is
not
working
through
rent
help
mn
and
it
can't
just
be
owners
and
managers
that
raise
raise
the
alarm.
M
I
think
renters
need
to
raise
the
alarm
and
when
renters
are
saying
well,
why
isn't
my
landlord
approving
my
application?
Well,
we're
just
getting
the
spinning
wheel,
folks,
that's
what
we
get
on
our
screen
and
we
had
managers
call
their
teams
in
over
the
weekend,
even
on
sunday
to
work
on
processing
this
thinking.
Well,
maybe
the
system
is
overloaded.
M
So
I
think
it
is
a
crisis
it's
unfortunate
and
we
need
a
fix
and
we
need
answers.
We
need
a
plan
and
I
think
we
need
to
send
that
message
and
ask
those
questions
and
be
asking
our
elected
representatives
and
the
city
council
to
be
asking
those
questions.
M
I've
met
with
legislators
to
ask
those
have
them
ask
those
questions
because
they
have
oversight,
but
we
have
customers
who
are
fretting
now
about.
Will
I
ever
get
rental
assistance.
M
K
G
Thanks
yeah
thanks
special
and
creamer
too,
for
for
all
of
that,
I
think
you
know
the
comments
that
I
submitted
and
for
legal
aid
were
about
some
specific
pieces,
but,
I
think
add
up
to
you
know
I
we
don't
see
the
system
working
in
a
way
that
is
preserving
housing,
stability
for
our
clients
right
now,
at
least
so
I
think
I
do
want
to
get
to
kind
of
a
decision.
If
we
can
talk
about
what,
so
what
do
we
want
to
do
like
you're
kind
of
getting
successful?
G
What
do
we,
as
a
committee
want
to
say
knowing
that
it?
You
know
we
are
it's
our
job
to
advise
the
city,
not
the
state
of
minnesota,
it's
our
job
to
advise
city
council,
the
mayor's
office
and
staff
kind
of
indirectly,
I
think
and
share
our.
I
think
it's
completely
appropriate
for
us
to
share
our
feedback
with
with
the
city
about
what
what
we're
seeing
and
what
our
concerns
are.
So
I'm
hearing
you
know
from
the
people
who
have
shared
these
concerns.
G
I
want
to
make
sure
I
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
who
has
a
a
vastly
different
opinion,
I
would
really
hope
you
would
share
that
now,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
glossing
over
anyone's
opinions.
But
it
sounds
to
me
like
absent
that
we
could
submit.
You
know
this.
These
comments
in
writing
with
sort
of
a
general
statement
at
the
beginning,
saying
so
far
from
what
we're
seeing
this
program
is
not
working
effectively
for
renters
trying
to
apply
for
assistance
nor
for
property
owners
who
need
that
assistance
as
well.
G
So
I
don't
know
you
know
if
katie
you
have
guidance
or
others
have
guidance,
but
sorry
looking
for
hands
bruce
if
you
wanna
a
chime
in,
but
what
I'm
I'll
give
you
in
just
a
second
here
bruce
and
then
I'll
pass
it
over
to
you.
What
I'm
thinking
is.
If
we
can
vote,
I
think
what
we
would
need
to
do
ultimately
is
to
vote
as
a
committee
on
submitting
something,
and
hopefully
we
could
do
that
now
or
do
that
today,
rather
than
waiting
another
month
all
right
bruce.
F
F
You
know
just
getting
that
kind
of
feedback
that
that
the
the
smaller
tweaks,
that
this
is
a
larger
tweak
that
is
necessary
and
myself
personally
and
katie,
are
in
you
know,
regular
communication
with
the
folks
at
the
state
who
are
working
on
this,
so
this
is
definitely
alarms
that
we
will
continue
to
raise
as
well.
F
But,
yes,
I
will
be
updating
the
mirror
on
the
severity
of
this
of
this,
and
we
need
our
processors
to
deserve,
can
only
work
as
fast
as
the
system,
if
it's
not
allowing
this
piece
with
the
landlords
to
approve
that.
That's
a
really
big
deal
that
we
need
to
get
fixed
right
away.
So,
yes,
this
is
something
we
will
be
raising
the
alarm
bells
on.
C
G
You
all
right
so
for
our
next
step
and
katie.
Do
you
think
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
take
a
vote
on
whether
we
want
to
kind
of
more
formally
submit
this
feedback
to
I'm
not
entirely
sure
who
all
the
audience
would
be
but
to,
however,
make
sense.
B
Yeah
and
yes,
I
mean,
I
think,
whether
you
take
a
vote
on
this
or
not.
We
will,
as
andrea
said,
like
on
a
staff
to
staff
level.
I
will
certainly
be
sharing
this
with
the
people
we're
communicating
with
at
the
state
and-
and
you
know
andrea
mentioned
she
would
be
discussing
the
mayor.
I
think,
if
you,
you
know,
you
could
certainly
vote
to.
You
know
sort
of
put
this
into
a
memo
to
send
to
mayor
staff.
B
However,
you
wanted
to
do
it,
but
I
think,
regardless
of
whether
the
commit
I
mean,
I
think
even
just
getting
this
feedback
and
having
this
conversation
gives
us
a
lot
that
we
can
follow
up
on
as
well.
So
I
would
say
you
know
it's
obviously
up
to
the
committee
whether
you
want
to
take
a
vote
on
creating
a
letter
or
a
memo
of
some
kind
to
officially
send
to
city
leadership
or
otherwise.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
will
also,
you
know,
be
be
passing
these
comments
along.
G
All
right
thanks,
I
think
janine
and
bruce's
hands
are
were
from
before,
but
cecil.
I
think.
M
Yeah,
well
I
I
would.
I
would
just
move
that
the
leadership
of
the
housing
advisory
committee
draft
our
comments
into
a
memo
and
formally
submit
that
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
council.
Expressing
the
alarm
of
the
committee.
N
J
G
Okay,
any
so,
then,
just
briefly
I'll
just
give
us
a
moment.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
that
motion?
So
the
motion
on
the
floor
from
cecil
being
that
the
committee
leadership
would
you
know,
along
with
maybe
a
little
help
from
staff
taking
notes?
Thank
you
put
this
together
in
a
more
formal
memo
that
we
would
send
to
the
mayor's
office
and
city
council.
So.
L
I
E
B
You
could
review
it,
but
I
don't
think
you
could
really
I
mean
it's
it.
You
can't
like
vote
on
it
again
after
this
meeting,
so
it
by
you
giving
authorization
to
the
co-chairs
to
do
it,
that's
really
sort
of
at
their
discretion
to
to
draft
it
and
get
it
sent.
Based
on
that
vote,
so
I
mean
certainly
they
could
send
a
draft
around
ahead
of
time,
but
we
can't
we
can't
take
further
action.
As
a
committee
outside
of
the
committee
meeting.
G
M
C
B
O
B
D
B
All
right,
charlotte
kinsley,
yes,
brenda
marcos,
yes,
david
mcgee,
I
don't
think
he
joined.
I
B
I
G
Right
so
that
motion
carries
leadership,
will
work
with
staff
and
get
this
drafted
into
a
memo
that
we
will
circulate
with
the
committee
and
share
with
city
council
and
the
mayor's
office.
G
All
right
thanks
everyone
for
your
feedback.
It's
really
helpful
to
have
all
the
participation,
so
next
we're
gonna
move
to
our
final
and
another
substantive
topic.
This
is
our
gonna,
be
our
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
the
renter
eviction
protections
ordinance.
I
think
katie.
G
Are
you
going
to
do
the
overview
presentation
first,
so
katie's
going
to
give
an
overview
presentation
of
this
ordinance,
and
then
we
will
have
some
opportunity
to
discuss
it
as
a
committee,
ultimately
deciding
whether
we
as
a
committee,
want
to
vote
and
take
any
sort
of
position
on
this
ordinance.
G
It
will
need
to
kind
of
happen.
If
we
are
going
to
take
a
position,
it
would
need
to
happen
in
this
month's
meeting,
because
the
public
hearing
on
this
ordinance
is
set
for
the
eight
may
18th.
So,
if
we're
going
to
chime
in
at
all,
we'll
need
to
make
that
decision
today
and
I'm
just
kind
of
noting
that
so
we
can
be
a
little
bit
thoughtful
of
time.
But
this
is
our
final
agenda
item
all
right.
Katie.
B
All
right,
can
you
see
this
the
presentation
all
right?
I
always
have
a
little
bit
of
trouble
with
this,
so
hopefully
it'll
bear
with
me
here,
but
I'm
just
this
is
gonna,
be
a
pretty
brief
overview
on
the
renter
evictions,
protection
or
renter
eviction,
protections
ordinance.
B
Sorry,
it's
a
mouthful
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
note
that
I
think
rob
after
I
present
robin
may
say.
A
few
words
on
behalf
of
the
authors
and
and
just
jessica
stone
from
regulatory
services
is
on
the
call,
as
well
kelly
had
to
leave
the
meeting
early,
but
jess
has
been
working
on
this
as
well,
so
she
can
help
answer
questions.
B
Okay,
there
we
go
so
this
ordinance
was
introduced
and
referred
to
staff
city
staff.
In
february
of
2021
it
was
introduced
by
council
members,
bender,
gordon
ellison
and
osman.
B
The
introduction
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
note
right
off
the
bat
is
that
the
introduction
for
the
ordinance
did
include
a
pre-eviction
filing
notice
and
just
cause,
and
I
presented
to
the
pogo
committee
earlier
this
month
and
shared
that
staff
was
working
on
draft
ordinances
that
were
very
similar
to
the
st
louis
park,
pre-eviction
filing
ordinance
and
the
saint
paul
just
cause
ordinance.
Since
that
time
there
was
a
decision
there's
there
is
a
lawsuit
pending
in
federal
court
on
the
saint
paul
renter
protection
ordinance.
B
That
includes
just
cause,
and
there
was
an
injunction
on
that
ordinance.
So
the
city
is
not
able
to
enforce
it
right
now
and
as
a
result,
our
our
city
staff
have
advised.
B
Cause
piece:
sorry,
I'm
just
gonna
mute
that
line
for
a
moment
that
the
city
paws
on
the
just
cause
piece
at
this
time.
B
So
that
is
why
that
is
not
in
this
ordinance
draft
and
not
part
of
the
presentation
today,
but
the
pre-eviction
filing
notice
requirement
and
and
this
the
ordinance
just
builds
on
previous
renter
protection
work
that
the
city
has
done,
and
this
committee-
or
I
guess
the
last
the
last
committee
not
but
that
included
many
of
these
mem
of
you
all-
did
a
lot
of
work
on
the
fair
chance,
access
to
housing
or
the
or
screening
criteria
ordinance
a
couple
of
years
ago,
there's
the
city's
renter
first
policy.
B
All
right.
Now,
I'm
running
into
my
issues
with
this
again,
let's
see
there
we
go
okay,
so
you
do
the
ordinance
language
is
attached
to
the
agenda.
I
should
say
the
draft
ordinance
language
that
staff
have
prepared
for
the
console
consideration.
B
It
does
include
a
pre-eviction
filing
notice.
That
says,
a
property
owner
must
provide
written
notice
to
a
renter
at
least
14
days
before
bringing
an
eviction,
action
for
non-payment
of
rent
or
other
financial
obligations.
It
needs
to.
The
notice
needs
to
include
the
total
amount,
due
specifics
around
the
whether
that
includes
unpaid
rent,
late
fees
or
other
charges,
and
then
a
name
and
address
of
the
per
person
authorized
to
receive
rent
and
fees.
B
It
also
requires
that
the
property
owners
share
information
about
legal
resources
or
other
sources
available
to
renters
to
assist
with
either
rental
assistance
or
legal
assistance.
The
notice
needs
to
be
delivered
in
person
or
by
first
class
mail.
It
can
also
be
delivered
by
email
if
one
of
those
other
two
methods
is
also
done
and
enforcement
would
be
on
a
complaint
basis
and
enforced
by
the
city's
regulatory
services
department
through
the
housing
maintenance
code.
B
So
that's
the
gist
of
the
ordinance,
maybe
I'll
just
wrap
up
by
talking
about
next
steps,
and
then
we
can
go
into
a
discussion.
So
there
is
a
public
hearing
scheduled
for
may
18th
at
the
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
of
the
city.
Council
staff
is
bringing
this
forward
now
in
anticipation
of
an
end
to
the
eviction
moratorium
and
that's
why
we're
encouraging
it's
been
on
a
you
know,
a
quick,
relatively
quick
timeline,
and
I
just
this
slide
just
notes.
B
Some
of
the
additional
eviction
prevention
supports
that
the
city
is
working
on.
One
is
emergency
rental
assistance
that
we
just
discussed
the
other
is
we
have
provided
funding
to
legal
aid
for
legal
services
for
eviction
prevention
and
then
just
here
on
this
slide,
you
can
see
the
timeline
may
18th.
It
goes
to
biz.
B
B
B
So
that
that's
the
overview
and
I
can
take
any
questions,
but
I
think
robin
was
going
to
maybe
say
a
few
words
as
well.
So
go
ahead.
Robin.
P
Well,
so
you
said
most
of
what
I
would
have
said,
so
I
think
I'll
be
quiet
and
people
can
discuss.
A
I
can
just
kind
of
give
some
context
around
enforcement,
so
kate
touched
on
enforcement
being
complaint
based
we're
basing
it
off
of
other
enforcement
that
we've
done
with
other
renter
protections
like
the
screening
criteria
and
the
security
deposit
where
our
renter
housing
liaisons
are
going
to
take
the
complaint.
A
Do
an
investigation
talking
with
the
property
owner
and
the
renter
kind
of
go
through
that
process,
and
then,
if
a
violation
is
found,
go
through
our
normal
violation
process,
which
is
providing
a
letter
of
violation,
and
then
we
have
the
authority
to
do
administrative
citations,
which
would
then
take
us
to
a
few
other
alternative
methods
like
behavioral
patterns,
maybe
contributing
to
conditions
on
a
property
and
things
like
that,
but
in
speaking
with
st
louis
park,
this
is
very
much
in
line
with
what
they
are
starting
to
do
as
well.
G
Thanks,
katie
and
jess
for
that
picking
up
really
quick
on
the
enforcement
piece,
something
that
I
would
just
add,
as
legal
aid
attorney
representing
folks
in
evictions,
is
that
another
way
that
we
would
foresee
enforcing
the
tenants
right
to
this
notice
would
be
you
know
representing
them
in.
If
there
was
an
eviction
filed
in
violation
of
this
ordinance,
where
should
it
pass,
then
you
know
we.
That
would
be
something
that
we
would
bring
up
in
an
in
the
eviction
case
as
a
defense
to
the
eviction
that
the
proper
procedure
wasn't
filed.
G
So
that's,
not
necessarily
you
know,
holding
the
landlord
accountable,
but
it's
enforcing.
That
would
be
the
another
method
of
enforcing
the
tenants
right
to
this
type
of
notice.
So,
thanks
for
all
the
information
about
where
this
is
at,
I
think
we
want
to
give
as
many
folks
an
opportunity
to
share
as
possible
your
thoughts
on
this
policy.
One
thing
that
I'll
just
note
too,
for
a
little
bit
of
context.
G
This
is
obviously
a
city,
a
proposal
and
not
a
statewide
proposal,
but
something
I'll
just
share
from
my
experience
is
that
48
states
have
some
sort
of
pre-eviction
filing
notice
requirement
and
minnesota
does
not.
So
the
state
of
minnesota
does
not
require
a
pre
eviction.
You
know
any
sort
of
affirmative
notice
to
attend
it
before
filing
a
court
case,
so
this
would
be
obviously
just
for
the
city
of
minneapolis,
but
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
before
sharing
my
own
thoughts
on
the
ordnance.
G
So
let
me
sorry
it's
a
little
awkward
doing
this
on
from
my
phone
here.
Let's
see
I'm
not
supposed
to
help.
M
Yeah,
well,
that's!
Okay!
I
wanted
to
give
others
a
chance
before
I
weigh
in
on
this
so
I'll.
Let
others
talk
and
then
we
can
talk
about
jurisdictional
issues.
N
So
I
I
just
oh
yeah:
go
ahead
and
sorry:
oh
go
ahead
queen
this
this
is
queen,
so
I
want
to
say
really
quick.
It's
been
my
experience
that
when
people
are
filed
upon
this
eviction,
house
record
goes
on
their
housing
record,
because
these
evictions
go
on
their
housing
record
and
therefore
they
are
guilty
before
you
know
found
anything.
N
So
this
is
what
I
think
is
that
when
they're
filed
against
like
you,
should
have
the
right
to
be
innocent
until
proven
guilty,
and
I
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
that
going
on
when
it
comes
to
filing
evictions
and
then
trying
to
get
us
expungement
or
settlement
done,
it
becomes
a
long,
drawn-out
period
for
people
who
are
riches.
I'm
gonna
rent
it
myself.
N
So
I
I
just
want
to
speak
to
that
a
little
bit,
and
I
don't
see
any
of
that
language
in
there
that
you
know
once
it's
filed
upon
somebody
that
kind
of
follows
them
around
for
at
least
a
few
years
when
it
there's
some
sort
of
statue
that
has
been
passed
in
2017.
N
That
says
it's
only
supposed
to
be
on
your
record
for
one
year.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
moving
this
type
of
agenda
that
we
make
it
inclusive
that
renters
that
this
is
happening
to
people
who
are
wrenches.
You
know
once
that's
that
eviction
is
filed.
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
and
I'm
gonna
recuse
myself
and
thank
you.
P
So
queen
thanks
for
that
I'll
just
say
from
the
perspective
of
the
authors,
one
of
the
main
purposes
of
this
is
to
prevent
people
prevent
renters
from
having
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
the
the
unlawful
detainer
on
their
record,
to
give
folks
an
opportunity
to
avail
themselves
of
emergency
rental
assistance
to
to
do
whatever
else
they
need
to
do
to
not
have
the
ud
filed
and,
and
so
the
point
of
the
ordinance
is
that
a
landlord
would
not
be
able
to
file
the
ud
that
stays
on
somebody's
record
until
after
the
14
days
of
notice
have
passed.
P
So
so
I
I
absolutely
agree
that
that's
a
major
problem
and
it's
basically
one
of
the
major
problems
that
we're
trying
to
solve.
I
mean
the
evictions,
of
course,
as
well,
but
also
that
people
getting
trapped
in
like
a
subprime
rental
market,
where
the
only
folks
they
can
find
to
rent
to
them
are
folks
who
allow
folks
who
have
had
uds
and
it
just
gets
into
this
spiral
of
people
getting
stuck.
P
C
C
G
You
know
data
retention
schedule
and
you
might
also
be
thinking
about
the
tenant
screening
ordinance
that
was
passed
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
when
it
comes
to
the
age
of
certain
types
of
evictions,
depending
on
what
happened
in
the
case.
G
C
G
It
doesn't
mean
they
still
exist
and
they
can
still
be
considered
in
an
individualized
assessment
of
someone.
They
just
can't
be
the
sole
reason
that
somebody
is
denied
so
yeah,
there's
kind
of
a
lot
of
rules
at.
G
M
Well,
yeah,
so
let's
talk
about
the
jurisdictional
issues,
so
it
hasn't
been
challenged
in
in
in
the
courts
yet.
But
you
know,
st
louis
park
has
their
seven
day
notice
and
this
ordinance
does
the
same
kind
of
thing
that
that
st
louis
park
it's
seven
days
longer
st
louis
park
is
seven
days,
not
14,
but
the
enforcement
is
through
the
rental
license:
it's
not
jurisdictional
in
the
court.
M
The
court
is
administrating
chapter
504b
and
how
does
the
city
of
minneapolis
have
jurisdiction
in
the
state
court
on
essentially
trying
to
amend,
504b
and
and
treat
it
as
a
defense
to
an
eviction?
And
my
point
is
the
it's:
the
city
can
pass
the
ordinance,
but
is
it
actually
effective
in
state
court.
G
Right-
and
I
think
you
know
it's
a
good
question,
but
I
think
that
there's
plenty
of
examples
where
you
know
the
court,
the
court
doesn't
just
enforce
504b
I
mean
the
court
is
a
court
of
law
to
decide,
you
know
all
kinds
of
laws
and
they
enforce
city
code
on
a
regular
basis.
G
For
example,
when
it
comes
to
like
a
health
and
safety
repair
situation,
the
court
uses,
you
know
that
they
can't
find
find
the
landlord
that's
what
the
city
does,
but
the
court
can
find
that
the
renter
is
entitled
to
some
sort
of
remedy
because
of
a
city
code
violation.
So
I
think
I
mean
it's
premature.
We
don't.
We
haven't
had
the
court
case
yet
so
we
don't
know
for
sure.
G
I
can't
say
for
sure
what
the
court
would
say,
but
I
think
when
it
comes
to
whether
the
city
has
sort
of
jurisdiction
to
start
entering
that
space,
I
think
it
the
analysis.
The
legal
analysis
would
be
under
preemption
and
whether
the
state
law
has
so
occupied
eviction
law,
where
nothing
else
can
touch
it.
One
part
of
that
analysis
is:
can
you
comply
with
both?
Can
a
landlord
comply
with
the
requirements
of
504b
the
state
law,
saying?
G
What
do
you
have
to
do
to
file
an
eviction
to
go
through
the
eviction
process
and,
at
the
same
time
comply
with
this
ordinance,
and
I
would
argue
you
can
because
what
it
does
is
it
is
requiring
something
before
that
eviction.
You
know
the
state
law
process
even
begins.
Obviously
we
can
foresee
that's.
You
know
it's
possible
that
somebody
could
challenge
that
and
that
the
courts
would
decide,
but
I
also
think
I
don't
know
it
depends
on
right
now.
G
If
we
want
to
debate
the
policy
or
whether
we
think
if
it
were
challenged,
whether
that
case
would
would
win,
I
think
there's
a
good
argument
that
and
precedent
for
the
courts
dealing
with
stuff
like
this.
M
Yeah,
so
part
of
my
point
is
it's:
it's:
it's
not
changing
504b,
which
is
where
the
law
really
needs
to
be
changed.
If
we
were
going
to
change
it
to
assure
proper
jurisdiction,
there
are
yes,
there
is
the
who
who
owns
the
field
and,
and
can
the
city
ordinance
be
recognized
as
part
of
that
that
has
yet
to
be
proven.
I
imagine
in
hennepin
county
housing.
The
fourth
district
housing
court
probably
will
be,
but
I
just
think
that
that's
we're
really
enforcing
the
rental
license,
not
eviction
law.
M
When
we
come
to
to
this
notice
quit
or
pay
notice
ordinance,
which
is
where
your
enforcement
action
is.
I
mean
it's
clear
by
the
by
the
enforcement
action,
where
the
sanctions
are,
whether
whether
somebody
could
appeal
a
dismissal
of
a
an
eviction
action
and
an
appeal
to
the
district
court
and
appeals
court
to
say
well,
I
filed
it
and
I
filed
it
according
to
the
the
court
rules
and
court
procedures,
whether
they
were
obviously
they
would
have
to
be
argued,
and
that
would
be
precedent
setting
once
we've
got
the
decision.
M
Or
could
or
could
think
it
is,
I
should
say
you
know
as
a
because
we're
really
talking
about
amending
246.
G
M
P
So
I'll
just
say,
one
of
the
hopes
that
we
always
have
when
we're
making
policy
is
that
the
vast
majority
of
frankly
whoever
the
regulation
applies
to
in
this
case,
it
applies
to
rental
property
owners
will
will
comply
with
the
ordinance
we'll
comply
with
the
regulation.
We
do
have
enforcement
mechanisms
in
in
place.
You
know
when
someone
doesn't
have
the
required
railing
or
whatever
we
we
can
send
them
a
letter.
P
You
know
if,
if
someone
is,
is
filing
uds
on
their
tenants
without
this
kind
of
proper
notice,
as
required
by
the
ordinance,
we
would
say
you
need
to
stop
that
or
we'll
start
finding
you
and
then
we'll
start
finding
them
if
folks
can
also
use
it
in
in
court
as
a
as
a
defense
against
a
ud
that
is
filed
without
the
notice
that
is
required
by
minneapolis
ordinance,
that's
sort
of
like
a
useful
thing
on
top
of
the
regulation
that
we
would
be
enacting.
P
So
I
I
it's
sort
of
an
interesting
question,
but
really
when
it
comes
right
down
to
it,
we're
not
actually
looking
to
get
ourselves
embroiled
into
into
a
lot
of
that
kind
of
enforcement.
Fighting
we're
mostly
trying
to
to
get
folks
to
change
their
behavior
and
frankly,
I
think
that
a
lot
of
rental
property
owners
are
already
doing
this,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
us
saying
here's
a
brand
new
behavior
for
everybody
to
to
try.
P
There
should
be
communication
before
that
that
that's
the
thing
that's
going
to
happen
to
give
them
a
chance
to
give
that
tenant
a
chance
to
to
avail
themselves
of
the
resources
that
are
available
in
this
county
to
not
lose
their
housing
and
not
end
up
with
that
black
mark
on
their.
K
K
Okay,
so
I
want
to
chime
in
so
I
want
to
talk
about
what
we
talked
about
a
little
earlier
about.
You
know
the
right
to
have
cancel
for
renters.
So
if
a
tenant
or
tenants
don't
know
their
ranks,
they
don't
know
the
proper
steps
you
know
to
take
to
deal
with
the
court
or
how
to
deal
with
a
court
housing
judge
or
you
know
who
to
contact.
K
So
they
get
this
intimidating
letter.
That
said,
they
gotta,
you
know
move
out,
but
they
don't
know
that
they
don't
have
to
move
out
until
they
see
a
judge
and
so
that
barrier
where
you
know
these
tenants
get
these
intimidating
letters
from
these
property
managers
and
the
tenant
doesn't
know
their
rights
and
then
guess
what
they
see
that
letter
and
then
they're
on
the
street,
not
knowing
they
have
rights
to
see
a
judge
first,
and
so
how
do
we
protect
that
stuff?
K
Because
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
I
know
that's
happening
with
a
lot
of
renters
is
intimidating
and
retaliating.
So
if
I
live
at
a
property
where
a
property
is
a
three-tiered
property
and
I'm
complaining
to
every
source
in
minnesota-
and
I
get
finally
a
letter-
that's
saying
that
I'm
getting
evicted
for
telling
the
truth.
Then
I
don't
have
the
right
to
counsel
because
it
seems
like
no
one
wants
to
really
protect
me
or
the
renters
and
that's
a
story.
K
That's
kind
of
happening
right
now,
there's
a
renter
that
lives
in
a
public
housing
building
and
she
did
the
same
fight
and
no
one
would
help
her
and
one
man
that
was
on
the
phone.
I
won't
say
his
name.
He
told
her
that
he
wouldn't
help
her.
If
she
was
the
last
person
on
earth
and
the
sheriff
just
came
two
days
ago
and
evicted
her,
she
didn't
have
any
right
to
counsel
from
anyone
to
help
her
other
than
the
people
who
was
helping
her,
and
I
feel
bad
about
that.
K
K
Some
thinking,
like
okay
evictions,
wrap
around
now
kind
of
the
kind
of
situations
that
we're
dealing
with
housing
are
coming
around
with
retaliating,
because
tenants
are
talking,
tenants
are
getting
power,
they're
coming
in
numbers
and
they
are
discussing
what
they're
dealing
with,
which
is
true
and
but
then
you
have
these
people
who
retaliate
against
them.
These
management
companies
and
these
owners
are
coming
at
the
tenants
retaliating
using
some
form
of
pressure,
getting
them
evicted
and
now
they're
on
the
street.
So
you
have
to
deal
with
this
big
old
protection
layer.
K
That's
happening
around
the
country
right
now
and
it's
you
know
we
need
some
protection.
We
need
some
better
services
that
could
protect
these
renters.
You
know
and
educate
them
on,
what's
going
on
who
to
call
what
to
do
what
to
notify
and
all
of
that,
because
if
a
property
is
a
three-tier
property
and
a
community
and
renters
are
all
complaining,
but
this
landlord
is
able
to
evict
this
tenant,
then
what?
How
do
we
protect
that
person
from
not
being
on
the
street?
G
Yeah,
thanks
for
sharing
that
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
just
in
response
to
that
quickly
that
I
like
about
the
ordinance
is
that
part
of
what's
required
to
be
in
the
notice,
is
information
for
the
renter
about
getting
legal
help
and
it's
something
that
we
see
all
the
time.
G
We
meet
a
lot
of
our
clients
for
the
very
first
time
at
court
when
they're
there
for
their
court
hearing
and
it
it's
not
a
lot
of
time
to
figure
out,
what's
going
on,
what's
truly
going
on
behind
the
scenes
what's
going
on
and
what
legally
might
be
at
play
in
the
case.
So
this,
I
think,
would
give
renters
an
opportunity
to
reach
out
and
talk
to
a
lawyer
and
know.
Have
you
know
the
phone
number
to
call
before
there's
you
know
court
hearings
being
scheduled
that
we
know
move
quickly.
G
G
Cecil,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
stepped
away,
but
if
you're
there.
If
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself.
M
I'm
having
a
wonderful
conversation
by
myself,
I
wanted
to
just
circle
back
and
certainly
agree
with
robin
that
communication
is
always
a
best
practice
and
given
the
filing
fees
in
minnesota,
that's
a
very
significant
deterrent
to
filing
an
eviction
because,
obviously
helping
a
resident
find
rental
assistance.
M
When
there's
a
non-payment
situation
is
much
in
the
interests
of
both
parties,
so
that's
also
part
of
best
practices
and
but
the
problem
with
the
14
days.
That's
not
best
practices,
because
what
the
city
is
proposing
here
in
terms
of
14
days
creates
a
much
more
adversarial
relationship,
because
now
you
know
given
looking
at
court
calendars
at
least
pre-pandemic.
M
It
was
10
to
14
days
after
filing
before
there
was
a
court
date
scheduled
and
typically
the
resident
is
granted
seven
days
to
either
come
up
with
the
rent
or
you
know
otherwise,
there's
a
negotiated
settlement
agreement
or
the
ritter's
issued.
M
All
of
these
notices
start
going
out
and,
as
carina
pointed
out,
getting
the
big
scary
letter
from
the
property
manager,
which
is
a
very
formal
legal
document,
which
you
know
as
joey
pointed
out,
is
one
of
the
things
that
that
legal
aid
will
use
in
the
courts
to
say
this
wasn't
properly
presented
eviction
filing
because
there
wasn't
proper
notice
that
escalates
the
the
situation
and
because
you
take
the
the
fifth
of
the
month,
plus
the
14
plus
the
10
days
filing
plus
the
seven
days
and
now
not
only
is
whatever
rent
was
missing
up
to
that
point.
M
But
you've
there's
another
month
that
has
gone
by
and
so
again
in
owners
are
going
to
act
fairly
reasonably
that
you
want
to
mitigate
your
losses
and
not
lose
more
money
and
and
so
providing
the
notice
early
is
the
right
thing
to
do,
because
there's
the
potential
for
further
losses,
and-
and
I
just
think
these
notices
are
scary-
they
escalate
owners,
don't
like
sending
them
out
because
they're
not
very
friendly.
M
G
You
know
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
from
others.
You
know
how
you
think,
especially
those
who
work
with
renters
in
in
finding
services
and
locating
the
services
that
they
need,
or
in
other
capacities,
how
you
think
a
policy
like
this
would
impact
people
in
your
communities
or
people
that
you
serve.
G
R
I
work
in
regulatory
services,
I
work
for
through
fire
inspection
services,
but
I
play
the
role
of
a
rental
housing
liaison,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
folks
that
the
things
that
we
get
involved
in
are
like
those
retaliatory
and
nature
incidents
in
an
attempt
to
see
if
we
can
mitigate
something-
that's
good
for
everyone's
sake
before
having
to
step
into
the
long
drawn
out
processes
as
well
right,
and
we
really
put
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
building
relationships
right
and
creating
scenarios
that
are
healthy
both
for
the
landlords
as
well
as
the
residents.
R
R
But
we
are
here-
and
we
come
to
this
work
with
a
lot
of
culturally
specific
lenses
as
well
as
well
as
a
social
justice
lens
and
yeah.
Please
utilize
us!
We
we
fight
hard
for
renters
rights,
and
we
don't.
You
know
we
don't
shy
away
from
that.
That
is
our
position
and
what
we,
what
we
do,
we
also
know
the
importance
of
having
landlords
that
are.
You
know
that
are
healthy
landlords,
and
a
lot
of
our
work
is
about
how
we
hold
those
folks
accountable
without
re-victimizing
people
that
are
already
being
victimized.
R
So
just
a
reminder
we're
out
here,
please
utilize
us,
regardless
of
where
you're,
where
you're
from.
If
you
come
across
these
things
in
nature,
to
let
us
know
they
are
things
that
we're
taking
great
care
to
to
peel
back
the
layers
and
get
down
to
you
know
yeah
some
good
conversations
and
some
change.
So
that's
all.
G
K
All
right,
hey
joey,
I
just
wanted
to
say
hello
to
robert.
I
don't
I've
never
heard
your
voice
before,
but
we
are
in
communication
and
I
would
like
to
have
you
get
back
into
communication
with
us
about
what
we
are,
what
we
were
previously
working
on.
G
K
Well,
joey,
I
would
just
say
this
that
I
am
serious
about
calling
a
state
of
emergency
for
minneapolis
with
you
know
these
moratoriums
ending.
We
need
to
really
protect
the
renters,
considering
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
renters
and
very
little
time
to
help
protect
some
of
these
renters
with
the
issues
that
will
occur.
K
I
agree
with
a
lot
that
was
said
today,
but
it's
it's.
We
still
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
I
want
to
be
able
to.
You
know
always
leave
with
these
phone
calls
feeling
like
we're,
helping
someone
and
that
we
gave
somebody
some
hope
which
I
would
love
these
calls.
I
always
have
a
lot
of
renters
on,
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
that
we
have
in
these
meetings.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
helpful
for
andrea
to
get
someone
to
get.
K
You
know
postcards
sent
out
letting
people
know
that
these
meetings
are
happening,
because
a
lot
of
these
meetings
are
very
important.
That
happens
within
the
city,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
engaging
in
these
meetings
and
being
able
to
speak
for
what
they
are.
K
Having
you
know,
problems
with
so,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
cause
some
sort
of
real,
concrete
plan
to
help
these
evictions
that
are
coming
these
mass
tsunami
evictions
that
are
coming
and
protect
our
renters
and
our
vulnerable
renters
and
the
renters
that
are
dealing
with
mental
illness
and
protect.
You
know
our
our
unsheltered
community.
That's
on
the
streets
like.
We
really
need
to
really
be
trying
to
figure
out
these
concrete
real
action
plans
and
so
I'll
end
it
there.
G
Thanks
thanks
karina
all
right,
colleen
go
ahead.
O
Thanks,
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
committee
wants
to
take
a
vote
on
whether
or
not
we
want
to
name
our
support
for
this
eviction
ordinance.
You
know,
I
I
hear
the
comments
about
these
letters
being
scary
sometimes,
but
it
seems
like
the
alternative
we
have
now
is
that
renders
are
getting
less
information
and
so.
O
I
mean
way
that,
like
do
you
want
people
to
have
notice
that
might
feel
intimidating
that
might
feel
adversarial
that
might
feel
kind
of
formal.
Or
do
you
want
people
to
not
have
notice
not
have
you
know
the
name
of
an
attorney
to
call
not
have
information
about
rental
assistance?
I
don't
I
don't
see
how
that's
where
we
want
to
go.
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
committee
make
a
note
of
support
for
this
before
the
public
hearing.
G
All
right,
so
I
think
this
is,
would
be
the
opportunity
for
any
final
discussion
on
that
motion.
Before
we
take
a
vote,
I
will
just
say
for
myself
and
on
behalf
of
legal
aid,
I
would
kind
of
picking
up
on
what
colleen
just
said.
I,
if
the
notice,
if
the
pre-filing
notice
is
adversarial
well,
then
certainly
getting
a
summons
and
complaint
for
a
court
case
is,
is
adversarial
and
nothing
in
this
notice
requires
a
landlord
to
file
an
eviction
on
day
15
or
when
the
notice
after
the
notice
period.
G
It's
a
notice
with
the
opportunity
of
giving
the
renter
not
an
opportunity
to
access
resources,
the
renter
and
the
landlord
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
see.
If
maybe
they
can
resolve
the
issue
out
of
court,
whether
that's
by
solving
the
problem
or
even
reaching
some
sort
of
agreement
outside
of
court.
G
I
just
would
say
that
you
know
we
think
that
it's
minnesota,
as
I
think
cecil
mentioned
you
know
it
would
be.
We
also
think
that
this
should
be
state
policy
and
have
been
working
on
that
at
the
state
legislature.
But
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
minneapolis
to
do
the
right
thing
and
to
stand
up
for
a
pretty
basic
measure
for
renters
that
will
help,
especially
in
this
year,
where
once
the
moratorium
is
fully
lifted.
G
Any
other
final
discussion
before
we
take
a
vote
on
the
motion.
C
I
I'm
just
struck
with
the
disconnect
between
the
first
set
of
discussions
we
had
in
the
second,
and
you
know,
if
there's
people
that
are
three
six
nine
12
months
behind
and
they
know
it
and
we
haven't
either
either
they
haven't
accessed
the
money
that's
available
or
we
haven't
created
the
system
where
they
can
access
it.
C
It's
a
system,
failure
and
we're
trying
to
put
a
band-aid
on
the
back
side.
By
saying
you
know
well
two
more
weeks
or
something.
So
that's
that's
the
part
that
I
have
the
greatest
concern.
You
know
I
mean
I
I
had.
I
hoped
I
literally
had
to
carry
one
of
my
tenants
through
this
entire
process
last
fall
and
it
took
five
months.
C
So
you
know
two
weeks
of
addition.
I
mean
I
I
don't
disagree
with
you
know
putting
the
notification
out
there,
I'm
not
saying
that
at
all,
I'm
just
saying
the
disconnect.
The
chasm
that
we're
talking
about
is
so
big
between
the
tenants
getting
the
help
just
like
it.
It
it
it's
mind-boggling
to
me
that
we
talk
about
stopping
evictions,
but
we
don't
talk
about
how
to
how
to
how
to
make
it.
So
the
rent's
paid.
We
never
have
that
discussion
right.
C
C
K
O
M
Just
a
procedural
question,
as
in
the
past,
any
opposition
would
they
be
offered
the
opportunity
to
write
a
minority
report
to
the
council.
G
Yeah,
I
know
we
did
that
in
the
past
for
another
ordinance
that
we
took
a
position
on
we
I
mean
the
motion
here
is
pretty
simple:
it's
you
know.
Does
the
committee
support
it
or
not?
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we're,
if,
if
those
who
vote
in
favor,
if
the
whoever
votes
in
favor
of
the
prevailing
side
of
the
motion,
isn't
writing,
like
a
narrative
of
why
I'm
not
sure
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
only
have
the
narrative
of
the
minority
of
of
their
reasoning,
depending
on
which
way
it
goes.
G
Absolutely
yeah-
and
I
think
we've
done
that
in
the
past,
for
all
of
our
when
we've
shared
the
positions,
we've
said
how
many
votes
went,
which
way.
So
I
think
that
since
we're
not
taking
like
a
more
subs
we're
doing
this
as
more
of
a
green
light,
you
know
thumbs
up
a
thumbs
down
that'd,
be
maybe
what
I
would
say
for
this.
One.
G
Yeah
no
good
question,
though,
all
right
not
seeing
anything
else,
I
think
katie.
If
you
want
to
go
ahead
up,
rose.
E
Sorry,
just
a
quick
clarification,
so
we're
just
voting
right
now,
not
as
to
whether
or
not
we're
gonna
put
together
a
statement
for
the
18th.
Is
that
correct.
G
G
B
Right,
I
will
take
the
roll
careener
bowler.
D
C
N
L
B
Thank
you
all
right.
I
think
lisa
had
to
leave.
I
believe
lisa
meers,
colleen,
o'connor
toberman,
yes,
maggie
addie,
yes,
scott
schaefer,.
I
D
G
D
B
Okay,
there
are
well.
Let
me
make
sure
I
didn't
miss
anyone
today,
if
you're
on
the
committee
and
didn't
hear
your
name.
G
Thanks
for
taking
that
vote
katie
and
as
we
said,
we
will
share
that
vote
with
the
committee
before
the
18th
public
hearing.
G
All
right,
it's
4
58,
I
feel
like
we
got
a
lot
done
today.
We
had
a
lot
of
really
good
conversation
thanks,
everybody
for
participating
and
for
sticking
around
anything
final
that
we've
missed,
that
we
need
to
cover.
G
All
right
thanks
everyone.
I
hope
you
have
a
good
rest
of
your
week
and
we
will
see
you
in
june.
Okay,
bye-bye
thank
you.