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The
regular
meeting
of
the
lindell
lake
special
service
district
advisory
board
will
now
begin
good
morning.
My
name
is
mike
mclaughlin.
I
will
be
facilitating
this
meeting
of
the
lindell
lake
special
service
district
advisory
board.
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note,
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
at
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
call
the
roll
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum
advisory
board
members.
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I
skipped
right
over
you,
I
apologize
john
glad.
You
were
able
to
join
us
there
being
a
quorum
of
advisory
board
members
president.
We
will
proceed
so
our
next
two
items.
We
can
actually
take
as
one
action
item
if
desired
by
the
board,
and
that
would
be
the
adoption
of
the
meeting
agenda
for
today,
along
with
the
draft
minutes
to
the
last
meeting,
a
proposed
agenda
and
draft
minutes
were
distributed
in
the
meeting
packet
and
posted
to
the
city's
website.
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B
Christina
yes,
john,
yes,
nicole,
rogers
is
absent,
very
good.
Those
items
are
approved.
We
do
have
a
public
comment
period,
I'm
thinking
we
could
table
that
since
we've
invited
fatima
to
participate
in
the
first
discussion
item.
But
again
we
typically
have
at
least
a
period
at
the
beginning
of
the
agenda
if
anyone
from
the
public,
these
meetings
are
posted
to
the
public
on
the
city
website
and
someone
could
join
us
and
wish
to
address
the
group.
B
We
did
have
some
conversations
with
fatima
at
the
end
of
the
year
out
of
some
concern
that
the
ssd
team
had
about
the
placement
of
the
planters
with
regard
to
both
snow
operations
by
the
district
and
that
they
might
serve
as
a
pedestrian
impediment,
particularly
during
the
winter
months.
So
the
planters
were
in
place
over
the
winter
as
they
were
assumed
the
district
assumed
the
responsibility
we
had
removed.
B
The
planters
as
previously
communicated
and
the
the
next
step
in
the
conversation
is
today's
meeting,
where
we
can
talk
about
options,
potential
options
for
sidewalk
planters,
going
forward
and
fatima
I'll
pause
here
and
allow
you,
if
you
you
know
again,
I
think
you
might
know
most
of
the
people
here.
But
if
you
want
to
introduce
yourself,
describe
your
goals,
and
maybe
that
leads
into
a
discussion
about
the
what
the
options
are
in
terms
of
you
know
what
things
what
could
happen?
Potentially
even
yet
this
year.
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I
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
add
in
is
that
you
know
I
think
that
the
world
is
still
watching
us
and
still
watching
lake
lake
street
lynn
lake
area
there,
and
so
this
is
the
time
for
us
to
really
try
to
showcase
our
neighborhoods
and
it's
gonna
go
a
long
ways.
I
think,
with
this
investment
in
the
flowers.
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B
Yeah,
can
I
just
I'll
jump
in
here.
The
district
could
absolutely
do
hanging
baskets.
We
have
other
districts
that
have
done
them
in
the
past.
We
do
have
a
mechanism,
you
know
there's
hardware
that
can
be
purchased
for
the
the
light
poles
to
hang
them
on,
and
then
we
can
have
a
contractor
water
them
as
needed.
So
please,
no,
it's
a
cost
issue.
It's
it's!
A
the
driving
factor
would
be
if
the
advisory
board
wanted
to
spend
the
money
to
do
it.
B
I
And
also,
if
there's
extra
funding
from
other
sources
that
we
don't
know
about,
perhaps
you
know
the
folks
that
work
in
the
city
may
know
if
there's
extra
funding
from
the
feds
or
state
that
allow
us
to
rebuild
our
city
and
because
of
the
you
know,
the
rights
that
happen
or
the
damage
that
happened
last
year.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
that
kind
of
resource
out
there
too,
that
can
be
used
for
this.
E
You
know
if
I
can
interject
a
year
ago,
when
this
committee
met
the
general
consensus,
was
nobody
wanted
to
see
our
budget
grow
and
the
assessments
that
went
with
it
at
all?
They
were
like
we
stick
to
what
we
know.
We
have
to
do
and
don't
spend
any
more
money,
and
I
felt
you
know
that
was
the
consensus
of
the
board.
But
there
is
a
problem
that
we
don't
have
a
business
association
functioning
anymore
on
the
corner.
The
special
service
district
was
never
supposed
to
be
the
business
association,
and
I
agree.
E
Flowers
and
and
planters
would
be
great,
and
I
would
even
propose
that
we
should
have
a
competition
amongst
businesses
on
this
corner
so
that
there's
a
buy-in
from
every
individual
property
and
say
you
know
who
can
create
the
most
welcoming
facade
to
the
outside
because
a
lot
of
businesses,
I
don't
even
think
that
they
ever
even
look
at
what
their
fronts
look
like,
because
they
don't
pick
up
their
trash
on
a
daily
basis.
They
the
planters
that
are
on
the
corners
now.
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E
It
would
be
better
to
get
them
to
buy
in
and
join
us,
and
then
it
would
be
more
eclectic.
It
wouldn't
be
so
uniform.
I
mean
you,
go
to
a
mall.
Everything
looks
the
same
up
and
down
the
streets,
but
if
every
store
owner
had
three
planters,
maybe
we
could
supply
the
planters
themselves
and
let
businesses
be
in
charge
of
what
goes
into
those
planters
and
who
maintains
those
planters.
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I
just
wanna,
I
wanna
speak
for
a
moment
about
this
buy-in
business
owners
right
now
are
struggling
very
much
to
stay
home,
so
to
ask
them
to
do
anything
else
would
be
especially
when
they
haven't
felt
support.
So
someone
like
myself,
I'm
working
off
of
no
funding.
I
didn't
get
any
grants.
I
didn't
get
any
because
I'm
my
only
employee,
I
have
independent
contractors
that
all
left
they
all
walked
out
after
the
uprising,
and
so
now
I
have
two
new
girls
that
are
like
out
of
school.
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Frankly,
I
don't
know
how
they
could
do
any
more
than
what
they're
doing
and
places
like
lagos
toggles.
They
spend
a
lot
of
great
time
in
here
with
their
exterior,
but
that's
all
out
of
the
manager's
pocket
he's
paying
for
that,
the
company's
not
even
paying
for
that.
He
has
a
passion
for
planting.
He
does
it.
So
I
just
I.
D
I
think
in
all
fairness,
too,
people
are
stressed
and
that's
why
the
the
landscaping
pro
initiative
was
great
and
that
they
came
from
donations
and
the
business
owners
got
to
participate
by
donating
food
or
time
to
plant,
or
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
were
involved
and
invested
in
it
and
those
planters
we
had
captains
of
each
corner
trying
to
water
them
to
take
care
of
them.
You
know
we
did
the
best
that
we
could,
but
the
reality
is.
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G
I'm
hearing
you,
but
let's
go
on
yes,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
a
couple
things
which
is
maybe
some
of
outside
of
this
it
sounds
like
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
bump
up
the
business
association
from
what
I'm
hearing
from
you-
and
I
I
apologize-
we've
had
no
involvement
in
that
forever
and
I
think
maybe
this
transitional
year.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
to
play
a
bigger
role
to
fatima's
comment
and
your
support
as
well
john
that
these
businesses
are
fatigued.
G
I
can
certainly
tell
you
we
have
the
same
thing
at
our
three
buildings
in
lindell
and
lake
street,
that
they're
just
they're
just
maxed
out.
We
can
see
if
they
can
play,
but
maybe
there's
a
way
to
set
a
new
new
something
in
motion
this
year,
where
we
do
maybe
95
or
or
and
and
see
if
people
want
to
participate
this
year
and
then
over
this
next
year,
figure
out
how
to
bump
up
the
association
and
have
that
program
in
place.
G
I
Yeah,
I
I
agree
too
with
that,
because
when
we
assess
these
property
taxes,
it
pertains
mostly
to
the
landlords,
the
property
owners
and
many
of
the
businesses
are
tenants,
and
so
they
don't.
They
won't
be
hit
by
that,
and
I'm
hope
I
don't
know
where
the
property
tax
assessments,
property
tax
evaluations
are
at
this
point
for
lake
street
and
lynndale
and
all
the
streets
that's
been
hit
in
minneapolis
and
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
the
property
tax
value
would,
I
mean,
have
to
go
down.
I
So
I
I'm
positive
that
if
we
as
property
owners,
if
we
ask
the
assessors
to
reduce
that
taxation
on
each
our
properties,
they
would
do
it.
I
I
through
this
whole
you
know
catastrophe.
I
believe
that
they
will
bring
some
relief
to
the
property
owners
that
want
it,
but
we
may
have
to
seek
it
out
ourselves
instead
of
a
you
know,
you
know
the
whole
thing
being
dropped
down
in
in
percentage,
but
I
I
think
this
is.
I
So
that's
why
I
mentioned
last
year.
I
definitely
did
not
want
taxation
to
go
up
because
of
covid.
We
had
the
meeting,
probably
before
the
may
28th
date.
I
think
so,
but
now
that
that
has
happened
and
our
city
looks
so
dire,
you
know
we
have
to
do
something
to
make.
It
look
safe
and
that's
the
first
thing
that
people
will
think
about
when
they
step
back
into
minneapolis.
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Well,
I'm
it's
such
it's
so
complicated,
because
the
flowers
idea
is
great,
but
I
know
we
have
to
go
through
certain
things.
You
know
with
the
type
of
planters
and,
like
you
said,
ada,
and
all
of
that
there's
so
much
work
involved
and
I
don't
think
the
assessor's
just
going
to
drop
our
taxes.
You
know
you
got
to
go
to
hearings
and
things
like
that.
My
property
bill
has
gone
up,
believe
it
or
not.
Like
I
said,
my
insurance
has
gone
way
up.
I
One
time
and
they
dropped
like
almost
all
of
the
pr
properties
that
we
asked
for
in
minneapolis,
so
there
they've
been
so
good
to
work
with
on
that.
So
I
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
that,
though
you
know,
I
I'm
also
waving
more
towards
the
hanging
plants
versus
planters,
because
I
I'm
I'm
visualizing
this
look
this
charming.
You
know
to
create
this
charming
city.
C
I
know
like
we
would
do
our
patio.
People
are
always
thrilled
with
all
the
flowers,
and
I
mean
we
spent
a
lot
of
money
with
that
I'll
tell
you
this.
Last
saturday
I
was
in
the
neighborhood
and
it
was
so
great
to
see
lines
outside
of
places.
You
know
people
wanted
to
get
an
up
down.
I
haven't
seen
that
open
in
ages.
People
are
eating
outside.
It
was
just
so
thrilling.
I
just
wish
we'd
start
taking
down
the
boarded
windows.
Yes,.
I
C
Understand
you
know,
people
are
afraid.
Something's
gonna
happen,
but
oh
my
gosh.
That
is
one
of
the
worst
things
and
when
you
talk
about
the
four
corners
two
of
the
corners
even
occupied
across
the
street,
were
you
know
just
directly
across
from
us
that
place
was
junk
with
they
finally
boarded
it
and
put
a
mural,
but
for
the
longest
time
where
emilio's
used
to
be
that
is
such
so
ugly.
There,
and
I
don't
even
know
who
owns
that
property
and
it
just
really
drags
down
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
I
Yeah,
I
think
I
feel
definitely
safer
now
to
take
down
the
boards
I
mean
after
the
trial
was
over
like
two
or
three
days
after
I'm
like
we're
taking
them
down.
I
can't
I
I
the
next
trials
that
come
by
in
august.
I
I
feel
that
they'll
be
okay.
I
don't
feel
like
we'll
be
striked
again
like
this,
so,
let's
all
take
it
down
like
we
have
to
encourage
all
of
our
neighbors
to
do
it.
C
G
So
it
sounds
like
everybody
feels
this
is
a
good
direction
to
go.
So
how
right
am
I
hearing
that
I
mean
it's,
maybe
how
we
pay
for
it
and
who
ultimately
maintains
it
john
to
your
point,
but
it
sounds
like
everyone's
in
agreement
that
flowers
of
some
sort
would
be
very
positive
for
the
the
the
community.
How
how
do
we
go
about
trying
to
execute
that.
H
B
Be
your
questions.
I
I
think,
let's
stay
on
this
because
that
well,
this
decision
does
inform
the
next
item,
but
I
I
think
out
of
respect
for
fatima
I
I
was
thinking
we
could
hopefully
come
to
some
consensus
on
what
the
next
steps
are
to
to
on
the
sidewalk
planters,
and
then
she
would
be
allowed
to
take
off
if
you
want
to
fatima.
B
So
it
doesn't
get
bogged
into
the
other
conversation.
We
can
do
it.
However,
the
board
wants.
That
was
just
what
I
was
thinking
since
we
have
a
guest
joining
us,
but
that
doesn't
have
to
be
the
the
the
way
we
go
to
the
question
about
costs.
So
our
general
rule
of
thumb,
so
not
a
hard
and
fast
number
for
a
district
size,
recep
planter,
and
we
can
pull
up
some
photos
here
in
a
minute.
B
We
do
have
several
districts
that
have
sidewalk
planters,
the
closest
one
in
proximity
to
lynn
lake
would
be
eat
street.
They
have
about
22
planters
of
different
sizes,
but
they're.
You
know
three
feet
by
three
feet:
four
feet
by
four
feet.
You
know
within
in
length
and
they're
about
about
30
to
36
inches
tall.
B
B
B
So
a
rule
of
thumb
not
hard
and
fast
is
that's
an
eat
street
planter
that
I
was
describing
to
put
by
the
material
both
spring
and
spring
and
fall
maintain
it
so
there's
more
maintenance
on
the
summer,
as
you
can
imagine,
watering,
weeding,
pulling
out
garbage
and
so
forth
on
a
weekly
basis,
removing
the
spring
the
summer
plant,
material
cleaning
it
up
and
then
buying
the
winter
plant
material
and
then
removing
that
at
the
end
of
the
season
is
approximately
a
thousand
dollars
per
planter
per
year.
Rule
of
thumb
not
hard
and
fast.
B
B
The
biggest
cost
is
so
everyone
has
an
understanding
and
it
is
completely
you
know
we
can
still
we
can
do
it.
So
it's
not
a
reason
not
to
do
it
just
to
be
aware
of
it.
The
biggest
cost
with
hanging
baskets
is
the
watering,
because,
when
you
get
into
those
really
hot
periods
of
summer,
we
have
to
have
the
vendor
go
out
and
water
them
daily,
if
not
sometimes
twice
a
day,
if
we
really
have
a
hot
spill,
so
is
it
all
manageable?
B
A
hundred
percent?
Okay?
It's
just.
There
is
a
cost
implication
of
doing
that.
Each
street,
for
example,
used
to
do
almost
200
hanging
baskets
a
number
of
years
ago,
and
it
just
got
to
the
point
where
it
was
getting
to
be
a
larger
price
item
than
they
were
comfortable
with,
so
they
dialed
that
back.
Is
it
a
reason
not
to
do
it?
You
know
I
mean
it's
not
a
reason
not
to
do
it.
Downtown
does
the
longer
hanging
baskets,
so
they
can
look
fantastic.
B
You
know
I
mean
I've
in
years
past.
I've
gotten
calls
people
say
I
want
what
the
airport
has
right.
I
mean
we've
all
seen
those
giant
beautiful
hanging
baskets.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that
in
lynn
lake,
obviously,
but
if
there
is
an
interest
on
the
part
of
the
service
district
to
do
that,
we
absolutely
could
implement
that.
We
would
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
do
some
research
on
on
costs,
and
particularly
this
year,
that
we're
in
may.
I
D
Explain
that
I
think
it's
safer
as
hard
like.
I
think
it
was
john
that
mentioned
the
cigarette
butts
and
stuff,
like
that.
I
mean
it's
safer
and
I
think
it's
really
charming.
You
know
it
makes
me
think
of
stick
of
water.
It
makes
me
think,
so
I
really
like
that
idea.
My
question,
michael
particularly
to
you,
is,
can.
H
D
Still
involve
the
community
in
this
process.
Whatever
is
decided,
can
it
still
be
a
community
initiative
where
things
are
purchased
and
last
time
we
did
it
in
that
big
lot
behind
fujiya?
Is
that
a
possibility
to
let
people
get
their
hands
in
the
soil
and
then
the
city
hang
them
or
whatever,
or
what
what
happened.
B
B
Do
this,
I
understand
and
appreciate
that
the
point
and
the
comment
you're
making
I
I
don't
know
that
I
have
enough
information
right
now
that
or
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
respond
specifically
one
way
or
the
other
it's
possible.
I
think
you
need
to.
We
wouldn't
want
volunteers
hanging
on,
but
I
don't
think
you
suggested
that,
but
well
no
helping
plant
them
possibly,
but
it
also
might
be
that
we
get
the
plant
material
already
in
a
planter.
So
there
maybe
there's
been
something
to
do.
D
Well,
there's
something
that
I
want
you
to
consider
when
you
are
pulling
to
everything
together,
there's
a
very
important
value,
I
believe,
for
that
it
gives
them
people
ownership
of
their
community
again.
So
that's
just
my
my
opinion
and
then
you
can
just
get
back
to
me.
But,
yes,
I
love
the
hanging
plant
idea
and.
F
D
Like
about
also
just
a
little
bit
of
logistics
of
last
year,
I
had
professional
landscapers
working
with
groups
of
people,
so
there
were
captains
on
each
course.
So
it's
not
like
rogue
where
people
are
just
you
know,
there's
a
demonstration
of
what
goes
in
how
by
the
professional
landscapers
and
then
people.
F
D
D
G
I
would,
I
would
suggest
I
I
think,
if
we
could
figure
out
the
hanging
planters
they're,
probably
more
effective,
just
because
of
so
many
cars
parking
on
the
street
that
you'll
be
able
to
see
them
more
easily
christina's
comment.
We
really
could
do
both
how
we
roll
this
out
and
again,
john.
Maybe
that's
a
way
to
make
sure
that
we
can
come
up
with
some
incentive
or
a
prize
or
something
so
that
the
businesses
do.
G
Maybe
the
things
on
the
sidewalk,
then,
whatever
those
constraints
are,
and
we
could
be
responsible
to
make
sure
that
the
hanging
baskets
are
up
and
then
we
can
just
evaluate
it
from
year
to
year
to
year,
until
we
can
get
some
traction
with
the
business
associate
and
get
more
attention.
This
is
a
lot
of
storefronts
that
we
need
to
resolve
as
well.
B
So
thinking
about
hanging
baskets,
obviously
we
don't
have
any
costs
on
what
that
looked
like
it
look,
would
look
like
right
now,
so
there's
a
couple
ways
we
could
do
this,
I'm
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
the
the
what
the
board
consensus
would
be.
The
group
could
allocate
a
certain
dollar
amount
and
we
can
maximize.
However,
many
hanging
baskets,
we
could
get
for
that
dollar
amount.
B
So
that's
one
approach,
another
approach
is
to
say
we
want
so
many
hanging
baskets
distributed
throughout
the
district
and
whatever
the
cost
is
the
cost
is,
or
you
can
say
you
know,
go
put
a
hanging
basket
on
every
poll
and
send
us
the
bill.
So
I
you
know,
I'm
just
describing
the
art
of
the
possible
I'm
guessing
that
there.
Some
of
those
aren't
really
acceptable
approaches,
but
I
want
to
describe
just
to
help
us
help
you
and
accomplish
what
the
group
wants
to
do.
B
You
know
in
without-
and
I
guess
let
me
underline
that
is-
and
I
think
everyone
probably
shares
this-
if
we
don't
need
to
meet
again
in
order
to
go
through
more
details
that
just
moves
the
process
along,
we
can
absolutely
do
that
if
that's
the
comfort
of
the
board,
so
we
don't
need
to
just
jump
right
in.
We
can
go.
Look
at
pricing,
put
a
location
plan
together
and
reconvene
the
board
that
likely
would
put
us
out
of
the
realm
of
doing
anything
for
this
summer.
B
B
E
We
have
to
know
how
much
the,
how
big
is
this
bread
basket,
because
another
fear
that
the
special
service
district
has
is,
if
you
increase
the
amount
of
budget
that
you've
got
in
special
services,
people
who
disagree
with
that
being
a
vital
and
necessary
expense
can
come
and
protest
and
derail
lynn
lake
from
having
a
special
service
district.
There's
a
couple
of
big
property
owners
that
have
the
capability
to
just
come
to
the
hearing
and
say
we
protest.
E
G
And
I
think
we
need
to
do
something
this
year
just
to
try
and
build
on
the
momentum
that
fatima
has
started
and
john,
I
agree
with
you
so
john,
maybe
it's
now
or
offline
or
later
we
should
maybe
talk
about
who
those
big
property
owners
are
and
see.
If
maybe
offline,
we
can
try
and
have
them
buy
into
the
concept.
G
So
at
least
we
can
get
some
momentum
there
again,
I'm
not
sure
who
they
are.
Okay.
I
can
guess,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
it
and-
and
just
so
you
know
when
fatima
did
this
last
year,
and
I
heard
about
it-
you
know
we
certainly
donated
and
I
reached
out
to
a
bunch
of
people,
including
you,
john,
which
I
think
you
were
kind
of
to
support
her
work
as
well.
B
So,
john,
I
wanted
to
come
to
your
question.
So
it's
a
little
bit
indirectly
to
the
answer
of
I've
put
on
my
screen,
and
this
was
in
the
packet-
here's,
your
amended
2021
budget.
So
this
is
the
dollars
you
have
available
this
year
are
159
0832
832..
So
there
was
a
surplus
from
year
in
2020
that
we
carried
forward
to
this
year,
which
is
14
832,
so
in
terms
of
staying
within
budget
this
year.
B
If
that's
a
goal,
you
know
immediately
I'd
be
able
to
say
we
have
approximately
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
go
towards
everything
and
you
could,
because
that's
the
surplus
amount.
Now.
Typically,
you
roll
that
over
and
use
that
as
your
snowy
day
reserves
to
pay
for
heavy
accumulation
years
of
snow,
but
you
could
allocate
it
to
hanging
baskets
if
desired.
You
could
allocate
more
than
that
or
less
than
that,
because
we
have
the
ability,
the
flexibility
to
to
move
dollars
between
line
items.
B
So
so
this
is
again
we
wouldn't
be.
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
understanding.
The
service
charges
for
this
year
for
2021
are
set,
so
there
wouldn't
be
an
increase
in
anything
this
year.
If
you
were
to
go
into
deficit,
for
example,
at
the
end
of
this
year,
we
would
recoup
that
in
2023
service
charges
so
there
and
we
would,
if
you
presumably
you
would
if
you
continue
to
do
this
next
year.
B
G
D
F
D
G
But
it
was
but
conservatively
it
was
five
thousand.
It
was
definitely
five
thousand.
So
just
for
a
perspective
again
michael.
I
know
that
those
give
you
some
heartburn,
but
it's
maybe
again
a
short
stutter
step
this
year.
If
people
like
that,
that
might
be
an
option,
is
to
sort
of
empower
fatima
with
the
city
and
with
the
special
service
district
to
sort
of
maybe
do
fatima
2.0
for
this
year.
While
we
get
our
act
together
over
the
summer
figure
out
the
hanging
baskets,
where
do
they
go?
What's
the
budget
to
john's
point?
G
Is
there
some
kind
of
other
creative
way
to
get
more
people
to
buy
into
it
and
then
really
kick
this
off
early
spring
year,
just
as
an
option
14
000,
we
maybe
we
have
more
than
enough
money
already.
If
we
allocated
half
of
that,
7
000
would
be
more
than
enough
to
make
sure
we
can
at
least
do
what
was
done
last
year
and
maybe
some.
B
A
G
And
I'm
not
suggesting
that
is
that
something
you
could
check
on
and
to
see
if
they
don't
how
these
could
maybe
be
modified
to
comply,
since
we
already
have
the
infrastructure
again,
I'm
just
thinking,
maybe
that's
a
short-term
gap.
Given
it's
already
made
and
we
could
just
make
sure
something's
executed
this
year.
F
I
I
know
because
of
the
ada
situation
with
those
planters,
what
what
about
just
allocating
like
say
what
do
you
think
about
allocating
7
000
towards
a
plant
for
the
hanging
planters
this
year
and
how
many
planters
hanging
baskets?
Are
you
know,
can
we
get
with
that?
Seven
thousand
abra
do
do
you
have
any?
I
you
know,
guess
at
all
on
how
how
many
that
would
be.
B
B
I'm
concerned
that
we'd
be
investing
so
much
into
a
planter
that
really
is
substandard
for
these
purposes
that
it
would
kind
of
be
a
a
not
worthwhile
effort,
and
just
for
everybody
to
know
when
those
were
in
their
original
locations,
they
were
in
a
large,
concrete,
seated
planter,
so
they
weren't
on
the
ground,
so
they
weren't
a
trip
hazard.
So
that's
why?
Where
they
were
was
okay
because
they
weren't
they
didn't
have
to
you
know
there
wasn't
an
ada
issue,
so
the
and
and
my
statement
about
hanging
baskets
is
based
on.
B
Hanging
baskets
are
likely
the
fastest
path
and
my
guidance
would
be
allocate
a
dollar
amount
that
everyone
was
would
be
comfortable
with,
for
the
all-in
planter
material,
watering
and
removal,
and
we
will
you
know
we
can't
control
all
the
costs,
but
we
can
certainly
use
that
as
our
guide
to
determine
how
many
of
those
hyena
baskets
we
could
buy
and
stay
within.
You
know
approximately
those
parameters
as
long
as
there
would
be
an
understanding
that,
obviously
we're
going
to
make
our
best
professional.
F
B
I
would
say
this
is
a
guess.
I
mean
if
you
wanted
to
have
a
hanging
basket
on
every
low
level.
On
every
pole,
in
the
district
I
mean
realistically,
a
fully
annualized
cost
is
probably
more
like
30
to
35
000
a
year,
all
in
and
that's
just
a
guess
from
what
I
remember-
eat
street
spending
15
years.
So
obviously
there's
some
cost
there.
I'm
just
you
know,
is
it
75
000?
Probably
not?
Is
it
15
000
to
do
a
lot
of
hanging
baskets?
Definitely
not,
which
is
david's
point.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
could
do
15
would
be
impactful
we
just
I'd.
We
would
want
to
manage
expectations
in
this
call
that
it
definitely
would
not
be
every
light
pole,
but
we
could
make
and
I'm
guessing
here
you
know,
try
to
get
at
least
two
hanging
baskets
on
each
corner.
You
know
if
you
will
in
the
entire
district,
and
we
would
have
to
do-
I
hope
everyone
understands
we
would
have
to
do
the
entire
district.
B
B
So
if
you,
if
there
was
an
effort
by
fatima
or
board
members
or
whoever
to
help
offset
this
cost
to
the
service
district,
you
guys
could
go
raise
funds.
Have
people
write
a
check
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
finance
department,
send
it
to
us
and
we
can
deposit.
It
quote
unquote
in
the
in
the
district's
account
so
that
it
would
have
to
be
all
service
district
and
still
allow
some
community
participation
in
those
that
would
want
to.
You
know
financially
contribute
to
the
project,
so
I'm
just
describing
a
way
that
we
could.
B
Those
dollars
could
potentially,
the
project
could
be
bigger
without
having
to
100
at
the
end
of
the
day,
use
ssd
dollars.
So
that's
one
option:
the
other
doesn't
have
to
be
that
way.
I'm
just
describing
the
art
of
the
possible.
The
other
is
the
the
service
district.
Just
so
everybody
understands
doesn't
need
to
be
involved
in
this.
B
It
can
be
100
for
all
the
things
we've
talked
about,
but
a
business
association,
a
business
owner
can
go
pull
an
encroachment
permit
to
put
up
hanging
baskets
they're
responsible
for
all
of
it,
but
there
is
a
another
way
for
that
to
happen.
So
I
just
want
people
to
know
that
this
isn't
doesn't
have
to
be
a
service
district
thing.
It
absolutely
can
be,
as
we've
been
describing.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
had
an
understanding
of
the
art
of
the
possible
here.
B
So
again,
I'm
going
to
come
back
and
say
you
know
again
just
to
help
this
conversation
along
and
I'm
looking
at
the
time,
because
we
do
have
some
other
things
we
need
to
accomplish
today.
I
think
the
fastest
way
is
set
a
dollar
amount
of
service
charges
and
if
other
dollars
can
you
know,
donations
can
come
to
that
and
to
answer
the
question,
we
are
not
aware
of
any
other
dollars
that
could
be
used
for
this,
certainly
not
in
the
short
term,
the
the
business
association
or
neighborhood
groups
there.
B
There
is
a
great
street
grant
program
that
is
potentially
a
source
for
sidewalk
planters
and
things
in
additional
hanging
basket.
Hardware.
I
don't
know
the
timing
cycle
on
that,
but
that
certainly
is
a
grant
opportunity
within
the
city.
It
would
require
a
non-profit
to
apply
for
those
funds,
but
the
service
district
could
be
the
implementing
partner
on
those.
So,
just
again
to
answer
some
of
those
things
we
were
talking
about
before.
I
I
Well
because,
like
it
won't
anger
anyone
this
year,
because
those
were
our
surpluses-
2021
is
already
you
know,
budgeted
out
if
we
budget
next
year
for
these
planters,
we
can
have
that
discussion
later.
If
we
don't
want
to
later
that
may
be
okay
next
year,
not
to
have
it,
but
this
year
I
feel
like
is
the
year
that
we're
hurting
the
most
as
a
community.
I
So
I
feel
like
this
is
the
year
that
I'm
kind
of
willing
to
spend
that
surplus
for
that
and
then
and
then,
if
we
have
to
skip
next
year,
not
do
it
next
year,
maybe
that's
okay,
and
then
that
gives
us
time
to
talk
to
the
property
owners
that
can
buy
into
the
idea
of
this
additional
cost
for
next
year.
We,
if
we
could
do
that
they
can
buy
into
this
the
people
that
you
thought
that
might
protest.
I
C
Yeah,
I
think
we
should
use
a
surplus
towards
it
and
if
we
could
get
donations,
that
would
even
be
better
I'm
having
a
lot
of
encouragement
because
well
we
got
through
the
first
trial
and
also
more
and
more
people
are
getting
vaccinated.
I
mean
people
are
finally
going
out
that
haven't
gone
out
in
a
year.
You
know
and
that
whole
mindset's
starting
to
change
it's
just
getting
more
positive.
G
G
We
need
to
sort
of
bite
the
bullet
and
say
between
now
and
two
years
from
now
when
it
finally
hits
this
tax
statement,
we
need
to
figure
out
another
source
of
funding
or
another,
something
something
and-
or
you
know
maybe-
and
maybe
the
way
to
get
it
done,
because
no
offense
michael,
but
obviously
you
guys
have
premiums
just
because
of
the
way
you
operate.
Maybe
we
have
the
special
service
district
get
the
brackets
on
the
stuff
on
the
light
post
and
we
use
fatima
and
other
resources
this
year
to
creatively
figure
out.
G
How
do
we
make
these
in
a
parking
lot
and
try
and
instead
of
doing
it
for
thirty
thousand
dollars?
Let's
say
it's
five
thousand
dollars
to
get
the
brackets
up.
We
somehow
do
that
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
for
fourteen
thousand
dollars
or
something
by
doing
it
privately
rather
than
through.
You
know
the
bidding
and
the
union
and
all
the
other
stuff,
just
as
a
crazy
outside
the
box
thought.
E
E
B
C
B
That's
that's
exactly
what
we
would
do.
We
would
make
every
effort
to
if
you
said,
and
I
would
modify
a
friendly
in
a
friendly
way.
John.
The
advisory
board
recommends
that
we
spend
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
on
seasonal
plantings
in
the
form
of
hanging
baskets
in
2021,
and
that
may
mean
that
you
deficit
spend
this
year
at
year
end.
We
don't
know
that
it
part
of
it.
We
don't.
We
may
not
deficit
at
end
the
year
in
a
deficit
depending
on
how
much
snow
we
get
so
the
good
is.
B
B
E
B
G
B
I
can't
I
don't
know
that
we
can
get
enough
plant
material,
I'm
just
being
candid.
Every
effort
to.
Let
me
be
clear,
but
I
mean
you
all
you're,
all
in
the
business
world
right.
You
know
there
are
supply
chain
issues.
There
are
you
know
plant
material,
we're
late
in
getting
an
order
of
that
size
in
can
we
absolutely
try
and-
and
just
so
you
know,
we
go
to
the
wholesalers
and
we
get
wholesale
pricing,
so
sometimes
there
is
some
benefit
to
selling
to
the
city.
Stu.
B
You
describe
some
of
the
downsides
that
we
occasionally
run
into
so
we
we
do
have
the
ability
to
to
do
that.
So
I
just
we
would
need
you
to
understand.
We
would
make
every
effort
and
let
me
be
clear,
I
think
the
approach
we
would
take
based
on
this
conversation
is.
We
would
try
to
get
as
much
as
we
can
and
if
it
turns
out
like
oh,
we
could
only
get
half
the
hanging
baskets.
B
G
A
Feel
like
we
can,
we
can
find
some
plant
material.
It
might
not
be
super
consistent
throughout
all
the
baskets,
but
and
it's
probably
whatever
we
can
get
at
this
point,
since
a
lot
of
orders
were
placed
back
in
february
march
to
get
you
know
spring
plants,
but
I
feel
like
we
can
get
the
baskets
up.
We
can
get
something
in
them
and
whether
or
not
it's
you
know
perfect
assortment
an
array
of
plants
that
we
would
prefer
it.
B
That
that
is
true
and
just
to
build
on
that,
so
there
would
be
a
little
bit
more
cost
this
year
because
we
have
to
buy
the
bracket
hardware
this
year.
That
would
not
necessarily
be
that
wouldn't
be
a
cost
next
year,
unless
we're
adding
number
of
polls
that
have
hanging
baskets
on
them
so
know
that
there
is
some
sunk
cost
as
you
can,
as
you
would
anticipate
in
a
project
like
this,
but
yes
now
we
we,
it
would
set
us
up
for
success
in
the
future.
B
If
that's
what
the
board
wants
to
keep
doing
so
there
was
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second
to
allocate
the
thirty
thousand
for
hanging?
Baskets
two
is
the
second:
is
there
more
discussion
now
trying
to
cut
it
short?
We've
had
a
very
healthy
conversation,
but
I
also
know
that
I
have
13
minutes
to
get
a
2022
budget
recommendation
out
of
the
group,
so
any
other
discussion.
Otherwise
I
will
call
the
role
on
that
item.
Stu,
ackerberg.
F
F
D
F
D
A
D
D
B
Okay
I'll
note
next
discussion,
we
included
in
the
pack
at
the
annual
report
for
2022.
we've
been
going
over
it
in
more
detail.
Please
take
a
look
at
it.
We
have
metrics
in
there
in
terms
of
how
much
trash
we
removed
and
so
forth.
So
please
look
at
that.
If
we
had
more
time,
I
would
spend
more
time
going
over
it
21
work
plan
we've
been
staring
at
it
here
for
a
while.
Obviously
you
have
modified
your
work
plan
for
the
year.
We'll
include
these
costs
in
the
line.
B
Item
number
four.
So,
in
addition
to
the
planting
bed
maintenance,
we
will
that's
where
you
will
see
the
cost
for
the
hanging
basket
so
since
it
definitely
fits
into
the
into
the
landscaping
anything
else
related
to
this
year
that
anybody
wants
to
talk
about
I'll
mention
that
we
just
did
a
banner
inventory
and
looked
at
all
the
banners.
We
are
going
to
be
ordering
some
more
inventory
banners.
So
please
know
that
any
issues
were
taken
care
of
last
week.
B
If
you
see
any,
though,
please
let
us
know
we,
we
was
obviously
we're
emptying
your
trash
receptacles.
On
the
on
the
on
the
same
pattern,
we
did
run
around
and
add
lanyards
before
the
sort
of
during
the
trial
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
have
a
problem
we
went
through
and
any
lids
on
the
trash
reciprocals
that
needed
the
lanyards
reattached
to
them,
so
they
weren't
as
easy
to
sort
of
cause
to
disappear.
B
We
attached
new
lanyards,
so
we
were
doing
a
lot
of
stuff
proactively
during
the
trial
and
working
with
the
contractor.
Just
because,
obviously
like
any,
we
didn't
know
what
was
going
to
happen
right,
hoping
for
the
best
planning
for
the
worst
so
know
that
we
did
that
streetscape
landscape,
you
know
everything
is,
is
on
plan
there.
B
We
will
be
doing
some
re-mulching
of
the
planting
beds.
It's
been
a
few
years
since
we've
done
that
it's
looking
a
little
exhausted,
so
we
are
going
to
do
that.
That's
not
a
huge
expense
item
for
you,
but
we
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
that
is
something
that
will
be
coming
based
on
the
the
hanging
basket.
Conversation.
B
I
think
we'll
will
not
replace
any
in-ground
plants
this
year.
We'll
kind
of
we've
got
usually
put
a
placeholder
over
a
couple
thousand
dollars
for
that.
We'll
kind
of
use
those
dollars
if
we
need
to
to
help
offset
the
hanging
basket
costs,
but
we
did
just
do
a
big
overhaul
of
the
beds
just
a
couple
years
ago,
so
I
feel
like
we
should
be
in
good
shape
on
that
front.
B
This
would
be
the
place
where,
if
you
wanted
to
take
that
that
streetscape
landscape
and
I
moved
it
down
to
12,
based
on
what
we've
actually
been
spending,
that
would
be
the
place
to
increase
it
for
hanging
baskets
by
30
or
whatever
you
guys
decide.
You
want
to
recommend,
and
then
that
would
go
straight
to
the
service
charges
now
you
would.
B
We
still
need
to
set
the
service
charges
based
on
what
your
budget
is.
Obviously,
if
there
is
any
surplus
or
deficit
from
the
end
of
this
year,
a
year
from
now
we'd
be
able
to
amend
this
budget
and
add
those
dollars
either
if
it's
surplus
or
you
do
have,
the
ability
and
districts
have
done
this
to
reduce
your
scope
of
work
to
absorb
a
budget,
a
budget
deficit.
So
I
want
to
get
too
far
ahead
of
myself
there.
So
this
is
the
draft
budget.
C
G
B
B
We
typically
place
our
order
in
january
for
may
delivery,
if
not
december.
So
if
with
planning
for
next
year,
we'll
have
much
more
control
over
plant
material
that
goes
in
the
plants,
you
know
more
potato
vines
versus
you
know
which
honestly
we've
had
some
problems
getting
this
year,
so
we
can
definitely
spend
more
time.
Thinking
about
you
know,
how
do
we
want?
B
What
do
we
want
in
the
baskets
and
where
we
want
to
fill
in
if
we're
not
able
to
accomplish
everything
this
year,
so
by
all
means
and
like
right
now,
we
obviously
don't
have
a
map
that
we
can
show
you
where
all
the
stuff
is
going
to
go,
but
we'd
be
able
to
talk
about
that
as
well.
So
we
can
definitely
have
more
conversation
and
are
there
any
other
any
other
thoughts
on
the
draft
22
budget.
E
A
Yeah,
I
feel
pretty
good
about
the
seasonal
tree
lighting.
We
did
a
ton
of
work
last
year
that
should
set
us
up
for
lower
in-season
costs
this
year,
so
there
might
even
be
a
little
bit
of
savings
there.
I
don't
want
to
oversell
it,
but
we
we
kind
of
we
did
a
lot
last
year
that
should
probably
save
us
money
this
year.
E
A
B
B
The
pricing
may
be
different,
so
we
are
re-bidding
all
of
the
streetscape
contracts
in
all
the
districts
this
summer
for
in
terms
of
streetscape
for
a
january
start,
so
we're
budgeting
based
on
an
inflationary
increase
from
our
existing
pricing,
because
that's
the
best
information
we
have,
the
actual
pricing
may
be
different
it
so
just
putting
that
out
there.
So
everybody
has
that
understanding
we're
budgeting
based
on
the
best
information
we
have
with
that
with
the
amended
budget,
which
would
be
a
hundred
175
000,
not
145
000.
E
C
C
B
John
yes,
cole
rogers
is
absent.
That
budget
recommendation
is
adopted
that
again
will
be
incorporated
into
the
operating
proposed
operating
plan
for
next
year
and
will
be
distributed
in
advance
of
the
public
hearing
to
all
property
owners
within
the
district.
So
we
have
talked
about
a
lot
we're
at
11
29.
G
Well,
I
would
just
throw
out
there
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
including
me.
Second,
I'm
not
sure
when
a
time
is
right,
john,
but
to
your
point
a
couple
points
one
is
that
there's
probably
some
key
property
owners?
We
should
talk
about
that
and
see.
How
do
we
start
to
plant
the
seeds
and
have
them
buy
into
the
the
value
of
this
beautification?
G
Also,
I
mentioned
when
the
time
is
right
or
how
to
do
it
to
figure
out
if
we
need
to
bump
up
the
business
association
here
we
should
probably
do
so,
and
it
sounds
like
fatima
might
be
a
powerful
person
to
help
lead
that
role
since
she's
also
active
with
a
number
of
the
existing
business
owners,
and
then
the
last
comment
I
have
is
I
just
out
of
curiosity.
So
is
it
christina,
christina,
I'm
sorry
very
nice
to
meet
you?
What
is
your
business
or
buildings
that
you
want?
I've
not
seen
you
before.
C
B
So
ended
there,
so
at
least
we
can
check
it
off
the
list
of
what
we
got
done
for
the
meeting.
So
I
apologize
for
that
stuart
to
welcome
as
our
newest
board
member.
We
typically
would
do
a
little
bit
more
of
an
introduction.
I
know
many
of
you
know
each
other
so
thrilled
to
to
have
you
join
the
advisory
board.
B
As
you
can
see,
it's
a
very
engaged
group-
and
you
know
this
is
very
typical
of
the
conversations
we've
had
very
earnest,
very
in-depth
to
denise's
point
when
we
reviewed
the
the
designs
for
the
utility
cabinets.
I
think
we
did
that
over
several
meetings.
In
fact,
so
it's
not
a
group
that
is
disengaged
which
candidly
we
we
appreciate.
You
know
in
terms
of
helping
us
accomplish
the
work.