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A
C
Oh
hey:
this
meeting
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novel
coronavirus
pandemic.
Pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
point:
zero.
C
21.
hi
everyone.
C
I
wanna
give
a
big
shout
out
to
heather
who
put
together
the
survey
that
people
took,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
survey
thanks
chris
for
spreading
the
word
and
today
the
only
agenda
item
officially
is
to
go
over
the
results,
and
I
just
see
this
as
a
starting
point
committee
to
see
where
we
want
to
be
moving
forward
and
what
our
collective.
C
This
is.
The
mission
for
this
committee
is,
for,
I
think,
a
few
interesting
things
came
out
of
the
survey
which
will
bring
up
because
the
survey
includes
the
written
comments
and
because
we're
virtual
we'll
have
to
read
them,
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
are
volunteers
that
would
want
to
read
a
slider,
probably
just
one
slide,
so
we
just
don't
listen
to
the
same
voice
all
the
time
so
chris
can
we
just
have
people
do
that
in
the
meeting
chat.
Is
that
appropriate.
F
End
of
the
day
awesome,
I
can
start.
Do
we
want
to
do
any
kind
of
screen
share?
Is
everyone
comfortable
following
along?
If
so,
do
you
want
me
to
just
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
F
C
C
F
So
this
is
just
our
opening
space,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
us
forward
if
you
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
the
way
that
the
slides
are
kind
of
arranged
we'll
just
go
through
a
little
bit
of
the
demographics
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
talk
through
some
of
the
more
quantitative
slides
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
longer
perspective,
slides
and
then
our
adventurous
areas
of
learning
and
action.
E
G
D
D
F
That,
on
purpose,
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
that
I
think
it's
really
impressive,
that
we
did
get
12
people
to
fill
this
out
really
take
the
time
on
pretty
short
notice,
with
a
pretty
tight
turn
around
to
take
the
time
and
energy
and
effort
to
to
really
fill
this
out
and
share
perspectives
and
thoughts
and
just
kind
of
a
quick
beginning
for
those
response.
Demographics
with
six
folks
that
were
answering
that
it's
their
first
year
first
year,
first
time.
First,
bac
survey.
F
So
we'll
call
that
an
initial
success,
then,
with
the
other
half
of
respondents
being
folks,
who've
been
on
the
committee
for
some
time,
with
a
kind
of
mixture
of
folks
that
are
coming
to
the
bac5e
meetings
regularly
over
that
period
of
time,
whether
they're
kind
of
new
or
coming
to
it,
and
then
folks,
who
are
just
coming
occasionally
or
when
they're
able
to.
F
So
the
next
kind
of
area
was
that
we
had
folks
really
kind
of
ranking
interest
in
the
different
five
e's
and
we
included
some
information
about
these
different
5es
as
they've
been
defined
by
the
5e
committee
as
equity,
engagement,
education,
encouragement
and
evaluation.
F
So,
as
far
as
the
interest
this
slide
and
the
chart
on
it
is
ranked
with
the
blue
areas
darker
being
more
interest
and
then
the
orange
areas
being
not
interested
or
occasionally
interested
in
those
individual
topics
and
so
really
demonstrating
that
the
interest
is
largely
with
those
top
three,
but
still
a
fair
amount
of
interest
in
all
of
those.
We
do
have
a
later
question,
where
we
ask
folks
to
rank
these
different
topic
areas
by
by
priority
and
that
being
kind
of
a
little
bit
different.
F
We
were
trying
to
get
at
what
are
folks
interested
in
being
active
around
and
then
this
next
slide
about
five
e
topic:
knowledge,
where
we
were
really
trying
to
ask
so
you're
interested
in
it.
But
how
much
do
you
know
about
that?
Different
topic?
And
again
it's
the
same
color
scheme,
kind
of
the
darker
blue.
Being
I'm
often
consulted
people
ask
me
about
this
all
the
time
versus
the
orange
being,
not
so
knowledgeable
or
somewhat
knowledgeable,
so
kind
of
seeing
that
we
have
a
fair
distribution
of
that
kind
of
know.
F
Quite
a
lot,
not
too
many
people
who
are
saying
they're
consulted,
often
so
we're
all
headed
toward
expert
in
this
space
looks
like
okay
and
then
to
go
through
the
5e
topic
priorities
that
we
asked
you
to
rank
this
one.
The
color
scheme
is
a
little
bit
backwards,
so
people's
first
choices
are
now
orange
things
that
were
the
most
important
to
people
showing
up
here
as
orange,
and
then
the
lighter
blue
being
the
the
last
choice
for
prioritization.
F
C
I
find
it
very
interesting
that
everything
kind
of
makes
sense,
like
sometimes
surveys
you're,
like
whoa,
that
is
outside
the
bell
curve,
but
yeah
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
know
about
the
first
three
and
they're
most
interested
in
that
pictures
comes
to
question
in
my
mind,
like
if
people
knew
more
about
evaluation
and
encouragement,
would
there
be
more
interest
in
that,
and
maybe
it's
we'll
see
in
like
the
next
few
answers
that
there
is
some
sort
of
ambiguity
with
those
last
two.
I
think
in
particular
yeah.
C
F
Yeah,
so
for
the
next
five,
the
kind
of
arrangement
here
is
that
we'll
go
through
the
whole
individual
responses.
We
just
kind
of
thought
it
would
be
best
if
everyone
could
see
what
we
can
see
and
then
we
sort
of
tried
to
come
up
with
a
guiding
question,
a
sort
of
thematic
question
for
us
to
discuss
on
each
of
these
topics
so
bree.
If
you
want
to
be
our
first
reader
of
all
of
these
responses,
take
it
away.
C
Just
to
keep
in
mind
the
the
question
posed
is
just
how
do
we
define
the
role
of
the
bac
in
this
work
and
we'll
discuss
that
after
we
read
all
of
the
responses,
so
yeah,
I'm
really
psyched
that
so
many
people
filled
in
with
comments,
my
backgrounds
and
marketing
and
a
lot
of
times.
Those
questions
get
skipped.
So
this
is
really
wonderful.
Okay,
the
first
one
equity
should
be
part
of
everything
we
do
not
a
separate
over
there
thing,
because
biking
and
walking
happen
in
public
spaces.
C
C
C
I
All
righty
next
comment
to
me:
equity
has
to
do
with
both
racial
equality
or
equity
and
the
fact
that
streets
in
largely
bipark
neighborhoods
are
more
dangerous
than
streets
in
mostly
white
neighborhoods
and
modal
equity
bikes
should
have
infrastructure
that
makes
biking
an
equally
viable
choice
for
the
average
person's
typical
trips.
I
I
I
C
D
Yeah
thanks.
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
of
context
for
today
and
then
had
one
also
just
comment
or
question
for
the
group.
Today's
a
really
good
day
to
ask
like
what
what
public
works,
like
our
role,
is
and
like,
where
we
like
see
ourselves
in
this
work.
D
So
if
you
have
any
questions
about
any
of
this,
like,
I
feel
like,
we
don't
always
have
a
lot
of
time
to
delve
into
that
stuff
in
these
meetings,
and
since
we
do
have
a
lot
of
time
today,
like
feel
free
to
kind
of
like
raises
that
up
as
to
like
what
our
current
role
is
or
or
like.
D
Maybe
where
we're
thinking
as
much
as
we're
talking
about
like
what
the
role
of
the
bac
is
just
kind
of,
also
pairing
that,
with
with
what
we
do
as
public
works
staff,
so
just
a
thing
to
add,
and
then
one
one
of
these
that
I'm
really
interested
in
in
getting
people's
perspective
on
a
little
bit
is
the
second
to
last.
One
need
to
continue
to
diversify.
Membership
of
bac
is
to
race,
gender,
fresh
ideas
and
experience
perspectives.
D
This
is
citywide
a
goal
for
our
committees
that
came
from,
I
believe
our
neighborhood
community
relations
department
led
kind
of
the
the
thing
that
called
for
that
and
it's.
This
is
also
in
the
transportation
action
plan
as
something
so
we've.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
this
in
previous
years
around
like
recruitment,
time
and
and
stuff
like
that,
and
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
put
it
out
there,
I'm
interested.
D
If
anyone
has
thoughts
on
on
how
we
can
help
achieve
that
and
I'll
also
say,
I
think
the
bac
membership
has
changed
a
little
bit
to
become
a
little
more
diverse
in
in
bringing
in
different
kinds
of
perspectives
and
things
like
that.
But
but
I
also
think
there's
definitely
room
to
grow
there
so
interested
to
hear
people's
thoughts.
If
you
have
any.
C
Thanks
chris,
it
looks
like
there's
a
few
hands
up
daniel
booty.
I
We
certainly,
I
think,
talk
about
race,
which
is
a
very
important
part
of
equity,
but
I
think
with
the
all
ages
and
abilities
network,
it's
also
definitely
important
to
get
that
all
ages
and
abilities
part
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
that
a
few
of
the
comments
called
that
out.
C
Yeah
and
just
for
everyone
to
remember,
you
know
race,
class,
able-bodies,
disability,
it
all
crosses
all
demographics,
so
within
those
silos,
people
can
be
many
different
facets
of
those
that
are
not
represented
as
much
so
yeah
thanks
daniel
okay.
Next
one
is
phil.
J
Yeah,
I
was
thinking
in
relation
to
your
your
question.
Chris,
you
know
being
new
to
the
bic.
We
review
a
number
of
engineering
projects
that
come
in
and
and
that's
it's
never
clear
to
me
whether
those
projects
are
picked
because
they're,
you
know,
the
primary
purpose
is
safety
or
their
legacy
projects
or
their
infrastructure
is
time
to
be
done
or
it's
public
pressure
or
again
sort
of
you
know,
sort
of
a
need
for
various
equity
issues.
J
D
Yeah,
so
we
just
some
brief
background
on
kind
of
how
we
do
that,
so
our
cip,
which
kind
of
plans
where
we
put
our
money.
D
We
have
something
called
the
20-year
streets
funding
program
which
was
created,
I
want
to
say,
like
2018
or
something
like
that:
2017
2018
and
that
prioritized
based
on
like
pavement
condition,
which
is
kind
of
the
classic
way.
But
then
it
also
takes
into
account
other
factors,
including
kind
of
some
equity
metrics,
and
things
like
that.
So
so
there
is
some
thought
into
that
and
and
how
that
happens
at
from
the
cip
level
and
matthew.
D
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything,
but
that
we're
also,
I
think,
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
20-year
streets
funding
plan
again
since,
since
we've
passed,
that
we've
also
passed
the
transportation
action
plan
and
completes
our
street
design
guide
and
we're
doing
like
complete
streets
updates.
So
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
improve
and
in
kind
of
how
we're
we're
doing
that.
J
C
Okay,
so
back
to
the
guiding
question
of
how
do
we
define
the
role
of
the
bac
in
the
equity
work?
C
I
mean,
I
really
liked
that
you
know
equity
touches
on
all
of
these
e's
and
we
chose
to
do
this
survey
with
the
ease
just
because
that's
our
current
framework,
but
then
you
see
like
philip,
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
engineering
right
because
engineering
is
not
untouched
by
all
of
these
other
ease
as
well,
so
yeah,
it's
just
this
process,
hopefully
just
gets
us
going
to
think
more
deeply
on
what
the
role
currently
is
and
what
maybe
it
should
be
and
having
guidance
from
you
know
chris
and
matthew
on
like
how
we
can
best
move
forward
and
get
things
done.
C
Does
anyone
have
any
problems?
Another
thing
is
I
really
appreciate
that
a
person
you
know
wrote
that
they
don't
know
enough.
I
think
this
is
committee
is
really
great
for
learning
and
we
do
have.
It
seems
like
based
on
the
survey
a
lot
of
different
ranges
of
where
people
are
at.
So
I
just
really
appreciate
when
people
ask
questions
and
there's
no
stupid
questions
and
if
you're
thinking
something
probably
another
person
is
as
well
so
feel
free.
C
If
you
know
you
know,
some
people
are
not
as
forward
on
this
virtual
would
probably
be
very
different
if
we're
all
in
the
room
together,
but
yeah,
don't
hesitate
to
raise
your
hand
yeah
any
other
comments
or
questions
or
anything
for
equity.
G
C
G
Allman,
sorry,
it's
kids
are
coming
home
from
school.
I
guess-
and
it's
bark
time
so
I
was
thinking
about
this
in
relation
to
the
postcard
survey,
that
residents
within
a
half
mile
of
george
floyd
square,
supposedly
received
and
reading
through
the
winter
design,
engagement
summary
that
was
published
to
the
city
and
saying
that
that
was
through
public
works.
G
My
question
is,
and
sort
of
my
thought
was:
how
can
we
be
proactive
and
how
much
room
is
there
to
be
proactive
to
actually,
instead
of
waiting
for
projects
to
be
coming
to
us,
can
we
be
more
proactive
in
submitting
comments
as
a
committee
on
projects
that
are
are
through
public
works
that
affect
streets
and
how
we
move
through
them
or
don't
move
through
them,
and
just
for
example
like
do
we
have
a
statement?
G
Do
we
want
to
have
a
statement
about
george
floyd
square
and
that
postcard
survey
that
was
sent
out
that
that
was
not,
in
my
opinion,
as
a
resident
of
the
area
done
in
such
a
way
that
really
provided
anyone
any
type
of
choice,
and
I
think
it
really
alienated
a
lot
of
people.
A
lot
of
my
neighbors
and
just
seeing
how
that
process
actually
probably
has
created
a
lot
more
distrust
with
my
neighbors
and
how
much
harder
it
is
going
to
be
for
someone
from
public
works
to
come
out
with
subsequent
designs.
G
I
just
I
had
questions
about
that.
It's
a
it's
an
unformulated,
complete
thought,
incomplete
thought,
but
it
it's
an
area
where
I
think
we
could
be
more
proactive
like
if
we
want
to
support
walking
and
biking,
especially
for
a
community
that
has
been
historically
divested.
C
Thanks
yeah,
I
saw
that
just
some
background.
The
city
gave
residents
of
the
area
a
postcard,
with
two
choices
of
what
to
do
with
george
woods
square.
I
don't
remember
what
the
two
choices
were,
but
a
lot.
The
comments
that
I
saw
were
like
two
choices
and
if
it
doesn't
include
that
individual's
choice,
it's
not
really
a
choice.
So
that's
the
theme
through
that,
and
I
know
the
city
seems
pretty
keen
to
open
that
space
up
and
yeah
there's
lots
of
different
bands
that
neighborhood
particularly
yeah.
C
I
mean
one
of
my
big
questions
when
I
was
talking
to
nick
mason
before
I
joined
the
committee
was
like
what
interface
do
we
have
with
residents
or
people
working
within
as
the
committee,
because
I
know
yeah
public
works
directly
does
outreach
to
folks-
and
you
know
we
all
are
like
a
large
part
of
us
like
represent
a
ward.
C
So
I
just
don't
know
how
connected
everyone
is.
Personally,
I'm
not
super
connected
with
my
ward
12
as
much
as
I
would
like
to
be
so
I
see
matthew's
hand.
K
All
right,
I
I
swear,
I
brought
my
hand
down
instead
of
oh
sorry,
I
have
two
all
right.
What
did
I
do?
Oh,
I
thought
that
I
just
I'm
not
anyway,
all
right.
I
have
two
thoughts.
One
in
response
to
to
cadence.
I
do
think
the
5e
is
is
a
great
place
to
bring
topics
that
you
just
did
and
and
think
about
how
we
can
proactively
address
some
of
those
issues.
Frankly,
I
think
I
think,
there's
a
reactive
way
to
do
it
too.
K
So,
like
you
saw
the
survey,
you
had
an
issue
with
it.
That
could
be
something
that
you
bring
to
pa
to
the
5e
in
order
to
discuss
and
maybe
pass
a
resolution
on
that.
So
I
I
do
feel
like
some
of
those
things
could
be
reactive
and
then,
and
then
you
know
pivot
or
parlay
that
to
like
how
do
we
like?
How
do
we
proactively
address
those
issues
as
well?
So
I
think
that's
fascinating,
and
then
you
know
my
role
in
public
works.
I'll,
say
it.
It
is
a.
K
It
is
a
a
challenging
thing
because
of
the
way
you
know
the
bse
pc
are
structured
where
we
it's
like,
there's
a
we.
We
bring
capital
projects
at
zero
percent
and
30,
and
not
necessarily
all
the
other
things
and-
and
I
I
do
try
to
and
staff
you
know
we
try
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
of
as
much
as
we
can,
and
so
that's
something
that
we'll
continue
to
to
work
on
as
well.
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
commit
to
that
and
just
say
I
think
it's
a
good
topic
and
then
second,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
sort
of
overlap
of
equity
perspectives
and
sort
of
this
emerging
engagement
and
how
they're
connected,
because
I
think
so
much
of
what
we
do
around
equity
is
is
almost
like
removes
the
the
people
in
a
sense,
and
so
a
lot
of
it
is
is
data
like
you
know,
like
what
does
census
tell
us?
K
You
know
we
have
maps
and,
and
things
like
that,
like
people
of
color
and
income
and-
and
you
know
race
things
like
this
and
and
frankly,
I
think
we
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
incorporating
equity
metrics
into
how
we
select
street
projects.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
people
along
the
the
road
know
about
it.
K
That
doesn't
mean
that
we've,
you
know
heard
from
people
that
don't
show
up
in
neighborhood
meetings
and
and
maybe
more
renters,
and
things
like
that
so
like
the
equity
as
it
relates
to
engagement,
is
just
a
fascinating
topic
to
me
that
that
we
have
a
lot
of
room
to
grow
as
a
as
a
department-
and
I
know
just
speaking
for
for
staff
that
we're
we're
committed
to
learning
and
growing
in
that
way.
So
we
might
as
well
talk
about
it
with
you
and-
and
you
know,
see
how
we
can.
C
D
D
One
of
one
of
the
strategies
in
the
transportation
action
plan
and
the
progress
section
is
to
implement
a
racial
equity
framework
for
transportation
and
and
we've
started
that
work
and
I'm
actually
working
with
kathleen
on
on
that
specifically,
and
so
I
think
that
will
be
a
kind
of
a
tangible
thing
where
there
will
be
multiple
kind
of
checkpoints
with
the
bac
on
that,
where
you
all
can
influence
where
we're
taking
that
plan
and
kind
of
what
we're
addressing
with
that.
D
So
that's
just
an
upcoming
opportunity
to
address
some
of
these
things
and
similar
to
or
building
on
what
matthew
is
saying.
In
response
to
your
your
question
comment
cadence
that
so
like.
Obviously,
you
could
decide
to
do
a
resolution
now
and
kind
of
say
something
about
that,
also
just
like
bringing
that
sentiment
along
and
putting
that
towards
the
racial
equity
framework
of
like.
Is
there
something
we
want
to
build
into
that
framework,
for
if
something
like
that
ever
happens
again
or
something
like
george
floyd
square
or
like
some
sort
of
like
place
making?
G
I
think
alyssa's
hand
was
up
before
mine,
but
I
have
a
follow-up
question
to
that
chris,
because
I
know
that
this
particular
instance
is
not
something
like
this
is
a
response
to
injustice
right.
This
isn't
some
like
the
reopening
designs
aren't
something
that
we're
like
funded
in
scip.
G
These
are
a
response
to
what
is,
quite
frankly,
like
a
historical
event,
even
though
it's
been
less
than
a
year-
and
I
think
this
is
maybe
uncharted
territory
from
a
planning
perspective
of
like
how
do
you,
and
by
you
I
mean
like
agencies,
different
elected
officials,
different
departments
respond
to
those,
because,
quite
frankly,
what
I
was
also
very
disappointed
in
is
that
both
of
the
designs
that
were
submitted
for
the
intersection.
G
Really
miss
this
huge
opportunity
to
re-envision
what
that
intersection
could
mean
for
biking
and
walking,
especially
for
a
community
that
is
more
transit,
dependent,
might
not
have
as
much
access
to
private
vehicles
and
like
it's,
it's
so
much
more
of
an
opportunity
to
really
work
with
the
community
than
is
even
represented
in
in
that
postcard
survey.
G
So
it
was
disappointing
from
that
perspective
that,
like
the
designs,
are
less
than
lackluster
and-
and
there
really
is
so
much
potential
at
this
intersection
to
to
make
it
serve
community
and
really
go
from
just
being
an
intersection
dominated
by
cars
to
like
a
community
space
that
facilitates
community,
which
would
be
awesome
and,
I
think,
could
be
a
form
of
justice
for
a
community
that
is
hurting
right
now,
and
so
that
was
one
thing
I
was
like.
G
Oh,
we
could
have
really
really
pushed
the
envelope
right
now
and
right
now
it
doesn't
it's
just
it's
not
not
there,
so
that
that
was
just
that's
sort
of
what
I'm
I'm
still
questioning
right
now
is
like
this
is
an
opportunity-
and
it's
not
going
to
be
here
for
much
longer
and
like
there
needs
to
be
pressure
somewhere
from
someone
to
really
catapult
that
out
of
this.
G
Really
myopic
status
quo
and
I
have
another
thought
that
is
escaping
me,
because
I'm
trying
to
use
really
clear
and
concise
language
so
that
I
can
get
my
point
across,
but
if
it
comes
back
I'll,
I
raise
my
hand
again.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me
thanks
for
this.
A
Yeah
first,
I
just
want
to
like
throw
confetti
in
the
air
around
everything
that
cain's
just
said.
Thank
you,
and
I
guess
one
thing
I
just
want
to
name
that.
I
think
we
as
a
committee
will
need
to
be
wrestling
with
directly
around
engagement.
It
with
like
equity,
is
the
climate
timelines.
A
So
often
when
we
get
into
equity
conversations,
a
lot
of
what
we
hear
is
you
need
to
slow
down
the
process
to
make
it
inclusive
and
we're
dealing
also
with
the
tension
of
climate
timelines,
meaning
that
actually
we
have
to
speed
things
up
in
order
to
not
have
deeply
inequitable
climate
impacts
in
our
city
and
our
state
and
our
country.
So
I
just
like
I
wanted
to
add
that
layer
of
complexity
to
the
conversation,
because
I
think
we
both
have
to
be
very
real
about
what
does
community
mean
right?
A
The
word
community
gets
applied
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
in
a
lot
of
different
contexts
to
mean
a
lot
of
different
specific
groups
of
people,
and
so
we
have
to
be
very
clear
about
like
who
is
community
and
how
can
we,
as
a
committee,
best
best,
engage
with
and
and
this
question
of,
like
equity
when
there
are
these
larger
societal
things
that
are
beyond
our
control
that
we
also
have
to
address.
So
I
just
wanted
to
complicate
things
a
little
bit,
but
thanks
bri
and
heather
for
leading
us
through
this
discussion.
G
I
have
loose
ideas
that
are
are
very
in
the
air
right
now,
not
not
really
pulled
down
into
concrete
things,
but
I
did
write
on
my
postcard
survey.
I'm
gonna
out
myself,
for
which,
which
postcard
was
mine.
G
I
really
think
an
rfp
should
be
issued
for
better
design
for
this
intersection,
and
I
think
that
a
substantial
portion
of
budget
should
be
submitted
and
allocated
to
this
project.
I
think
that
there
should
be
a
cac,
an
attack,
and
I
think
that
every
cac
member
should
be
paid
20
per
hour
for
their
engagement.
G
I
think
that
there
should
be
grant
money
offered
to
different
community
groups
to
do
focus
groups
with
community
members
and
business
owners
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
intersection
as
a
way
to
really
pay
people
for
their
labor,
so
that
it's
not
just
empty
engagement.
So
I
I
was
thinking
of
it
more
from
a
like
implementation
of
planning
and
study
perspective.
G
Not
really
sure
of
how
much
power
or
or
influence.
G
Our
our
subcommittee
has
to
influence
the
powers
that
be
on
that.
C
Absolutely
it
looks,
like
matthew's
hand,
is
up.
Maybe
it
is
in
response
to
what
kaden
said.
K
Yes,
my
my
only
thought
to
add
is
that
the
pac
has,
you
know,
expressed
thoughts
on
this
via
resolution
and
so
that
that
could
be
something
that
you
all
look
at
as
a
starting
point
or
you
know,
maybe
you
don't
use
it,
but
it's
something.
So
we
can
share
that.
C
Yeah
students
I'd
be
happy
to
meet
with
you
and
we
can
talk
about
that
and
maybe
have
something
ready
for
the
big
group
for
the
next
full
bac
meeting
in
my
chat
chris
and
matthew
as
well.
To
kind
of
I've
never
done
that
so
yeah.
Let's
touch
base.
G
C
Thank
you
so
much,
and
this
is
really
great
discussion
to
go
into
the
next
slide,
because
it
is
about
and
look
at
the
guiding
question
of
how
can
the
bac
support
equitable
engagement
work
within
public
works
whoa
we're
already
discussing
that
we're
ahead
of
the
game.
C
So
let
me
see
who
volunteered
I
don't
know
how
to
like.
Do
little
emoji
things
to
people's
comments,
and
I
was
sad
about
that
because
I
was
able
to
earlier
on
and
kyle
larson
had
a
really
funny
chat.
C
C
Yeah,
we'll
go
back
so
well
matthew,
you're
next
step
on
like
the
order
of
lists.
So
why.
K
Okay,
I'll
start
at
the
top
too
many
thoughts
for
this
survey.
I
hope
to
bring
some
discussions
to
the
bac
this
year
about
one,
how
we
more
fully
engage
the
wards
and
two
how
we
overhaul
the
city's
engagement
process
next
comment:
quality
diverse
engagement
is
very
useful.
Engaging
those
who
do
not
ride
a
bike
is
probably
more
important
than
engaging
the
folks
that
already
do.
K
We
should
find
out
why
non-cyclists
are
non-cyclists
homogeneous
responses
from
the
same
people.
We
might
already
hear
from
only
keep
us
in
the
city's
progress
stagnant.
It
also
might
alienate
those
who
do
not
understand
the
goals
of
the
city's
bicycling
plans
and
lead
to
more
anti-bike
lane
in
quotes,
violence
or
voices.
K
It
is
unfair
when
engagement
is
used
as
a
barrier
or
slowdown
for
bike
projects,
while
major
motor
vehicle
spending
requires
almost
no
engagement.
Engagement
for
major
highway
projects
is
usually
very
superficial.
Engagement
should
be
structured
to
counterbalance,
not
enhance
the
incumbency,
familiarity
advantage
of
public
spaces
designed
mostly
for
cars.
The
climate
crisis
requires
a
reframing
of
engagement
that
gives
more
priority
to
future
generations
and
less
priority
to
how
convenient
it
is
for
me
to
park
my
car
30
to
80
feet
from
my
destination.
D
D
When
you
speak
of
engagement,
is
this
in-house
or
outside
of
the
bac
and
the
last
one?
The
people
living
working
playing
in
neighborhoods
of
minneapolis
are
the
experts
in
what
their
community
needs
and
wants.
Engagement
should
not
only
be
one-time
action,
but
continuous
relationship
building
with
people
who
make
up
our
diverse
city.
C
Okay,
thank
you
sounds
like
they're
I
mean
I
did
have.
I
did
question
like
when
we
when
I
went
through
this
survey
of
like
okay.
C
What
is
what
we
want
to
encourage
public
works
to
do
and
what
is
what
the
bac
is
able
to
do
and
then
what
as
an
individual
and
a
person
who
bikes
also
wants
to
do
so,
I'm
so
glad
that
people
incorporated
that
into
their
comments,
and
I
think
it
will
be
a
good
discussion
to
start
with
that.
Cadence
he's.
G
G
Apologies
on
my
my
internet
seems
to
go
out,
but
I'm
viewing
this
in
kind
of
a
couple.
Different
buckets
like
slash,
a
concern
that
I
have
is
that
like
when
there
are
too
many
say
like
engagement,
leads
on
a
project
like
if
we
so
say,
city
of
minneapolis
has
a
project,
I'm
just
going
to
pick
a
project.
That's
already
been
done:
28th
street
east
28th
street
right,
and
that
was
county
partnership
right
depending
on
the
ownership
of
the
street.
G
So
if
then,
you
have
like
the
the
bac
coming
in
with
engagement,
it's
it's
kind
of
confusing,
like
it
makes
sense
that
engagement
for
a
project
is
housed
within
that
project.
But
I
think
what
the
bac
can
do
is
write
or
put
together
like
a
guiding
document,
for
this
is
what
we
want
engagement
to
look
like
on
city
bicycle
infrastructure.
G
Projects
like
we
want
to
see
three
percent
of
every
resident
in
a
project
area
like
be
reached
out
directly
in
in
one
form
or
another,
like
through
survey
or
like
through
social
media,
or
through,
like
a
project
mailer
to
a
residential
address,
etc.
Like
I
think
we
could,
we
could
build
in
like
metrics
like
that
like
or
we
want
to
see
like
you
know.
If
we
know
that
the
demographics
of
the
corridor
are
you
know,
half
the
people
are
transit
dependent.
G
You
know
we.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
a
percentage
of
our
questions
or
the
questions
on
that
project,
like
whoever
is
leading
the
project
design,
whoever
their
engagement
consultant
is
or
engagement,
lead,
is,
is
sort
of
following
these
different
questions
and
the
other
response
that
I
have
to
my
sort
of
idea
about
that
is
that,
like
engagement,
can't
be
too
prescriptive
like
it
has
to
be
tailored
to
each
project.
That
has
to
be
flexible
enough,
but
there
are
still
maybe
some
overarching
things
that
we
can
recommend
or
get
to.
G
I
know
that
I've
seen
projects
for
different
cities
where,
in
their
rfp
they're
like
we
want
10
percent
of
the
city's
population
to
be
engaged
through
xyz.
You
know
so
for
a
smaller
community
that
might
be
more
doable.
We
have
400
000
people
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
so
that
is
not.
You
know,
doable
city-wide,
but
I've
seen
metrics
like
that.
Thrown
out,
and
so
I'm
curious
what
that
might
look
like
for
for
city
of
minneapolis
projects
and
or
hennepin
county
projects,
so.
C
Thanks
kadence
matthew,
chris
okay,
chris.
D
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
respond
to
that.
I
think
it's
a
really
interesting
idea
and
if,
if
there's,
if
folks
want
to
put
effort
into
kind
of
coming
up
with
some
of
those
metrics
and
putting
those
forward,
I
I
do
think
like
we're.
Taking
a
look
at
a
lot
of
our
engagement
right
now
and
also
through
the
racial
equity
framework.
I
think
that'll
be
a
thing
and
metrics
is
a
big
piece
of
the
racial
equity
framework
in
terms
of
how
are
we
holding
ourselves
accountable
and
so
yeah.
D
I
I
generally
like
the
idea,
and
I
think
we
would
be
able
to
put
it
to
use
I'll
say
like
not
necessarily
like
we.
We
may
have
pushed
back
our
thoughts
on
like
on
differences,
but
but
either
way.
I
think
that
will
help
us
kind
of
help
communicate
the
bac's
ideas
and
preferences,
and
we
can
figure
out
how
to
fold
that
into
our
stuff.
So
thanks.
C
L
So
I'll
just
say
I
as
we
as
we
think
about
changes
to
engagement,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
fought
pretty
hard
for
in
the
past
and
I
think
have
made
some
progress
on
we're.
Definitely
not
there
yet
is
not
starting
every
engagement
about
every
project.
With
a
like
a
blank
slate
saying.
L
What
would
you
like
here
but
starting
to
alyssa's
point
earlier?
You
know
that
the
city
has
a
whole
lot
of
adopted
policy
on
on
climate
change,
on
race,
equity
and
and
to
sort
of
ground
the
conversation
in
here's.
Why
we're
trying
to
maybe
take
some
parking
away
and
and
put
in
a
bike
facility
here
rather
than
saying
like
hey?
So
what
do
you
think,
which
is
how
we
used
to
do
engagement?
L
It
was
like
every
every
conversation
was
like
the
the
first
time
we
had
ever
talked
about
biking,
and
so
I
I
just
as
we
move
forward
sort
of
continuing
to
strengthen
that
and
not
losing
any
of
the
progress
that
we've
made
to
try
to
get
the
engagement
to
be
like
contextual.
That
way,.
C
For
that
history,
robin
chris.
D
I
I
think
that
one
other
kind
of
trend
that
we're
seeing
that
we're
likely
to
follow
is
is
more
engagement.
That's
like
broader
than
just
one
project,
so
looking
at
more
like
community-wide
engagement
like,
for
example,
vision,
zero,
we're
not
going
on
every
project
and
saying
like:
where
do
you
want
the
bollards
for
this?
It's
it's
more
like
letting
folks
know
kind
of
more
broad
skill.
Why
we're
doing
that?
D
How
it
like
it's
a
little
a
little
more
like
educate
than
and
inform
than
actually
engaging,
but
but
I'm
interested
of
what
folks
think
of
of
that
and
like
if
we
were
to
kind
of
do
that
more
for
bigger
capital
projects
like
does
that
resonate
with
people
or
or
do
you
think
like?
Perhaps
we
would
end
up
missing
things
or
just
wondering
about
folks
reaction.
C
Someone's
hand
is
can't,
I
I'm
just
gonna,
say
one
thing
for
a
couple
things
I
think,
and
I'm
glad
robin
shared
that
history
and
I
would
like
to
even
go
farther
back
in
the
sense
of
the
failure
of
the
city
to
burn
back
the
trust
of
community
members
and
that
it
has
been
project
to
project
in
that
relationship
building,
and
I
know
that
there
is
turnover
at
cities
and
that
is
challenging,
especially
making
relationships.
C
C
Planner
was
really
proud
and
shared
with
us
that
this
big
pedestrian
bridge
that
was
built
and
it
took
20
years
for
that
to
be
built,
and
she
was
one
of
the
people
that
started
that
project
and
she
like
knew
people
in
the
neighborhood
people
stopped
by
and
chat
with
her,
and
it
was
just
really
unfortunately
novel
to
see
that
many
times
when
I
go
to
conferences,
a
lot
of
people
are
like
yeah.
C
This
was
planned
20
years
ago
and
now
it's
being
finished
and
here's
what
and
I
started
two
years
ago
so
yeah,
it's
just
that
holistic
of
like
going
further
than
our
toolbox
of
engagement
to
really.
C
Really,
it's
not
even
engagements
relationships
right
and
making
sure
that
the
city
has
a
good
conversation
and
an
ongoing
conversation,
so
it
makes
it
easier
for
public
works
to
get
things
done.
Okay,
that's
my
two
cents.
Cadence.
G
Yeah
there
there's
so
much
to
respond
to,
I
feel
like
we
actually
have
a
lot
to
talk
about
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
also
just
thinking
about
like
continuity.
I
know
the
big
pet
peeve
of
mine
is
that,
in
response
to
robin's
comment,
I
don't
like
to
engage
people
if
there
isn't
like
a
project
or
funding
allocated
to
a
project
like
if
there's
not
something
in
place
like
asking
people
hey.
What
do
you
want
to
see
like
kind
of
wastes
people's
time?
G
I
feel
like
it's
better
to
have
something
for
people
to
respond
to
like
a
menu
of
options
right
so
that
you
can
filter
it
down
and
refine
like
a
design
concept
or
a
project
or
a
program,
so
that
people
you
know,
aren't
starting
from
scratch
and
also
like
recognizing
that
a
lot
of
the
time
our
engagement
like
we're,
working
with
like
parents
and
caregivers
and
teachers
and
first
aid
responders
and
like
people
where,
like
this,
isn't
their
career
or
like
their
professional
expertise
or
even
like
their
volunteer
expertise.
G
G
Here
are
the
benefits,
but
here's
you
know
where
there
might
have
to
be
compromise,
and
so
that
has
to
has
to
be
coordinated
right,
but
also
like
another
thing
that
I'm
thinking
about
is
a
project
that
I'm
working
on
is
we're
trying
to
define
what
equity
means
in
a
transportation
system
for
a
county,
a
really
large
county
in
the
u.s
and
like
there
isn't
a
definition
because
that's
that's.
G
The
goal
of
the
project
is
to
figure
out
what
does
equity
and
transportation
look
like,
and
so
I'd
also
like
to
see
engagement,
balance,
people
who
live
and
work
in
an
area
not
necessarily
be
superseded
by
people
who
just
want
to
get
through
an
area
if
that
makes
sense.
So
there's
that
balance
and
that
tension
there,
where
do,
people
who
live
outside
of
minneapolis,
have
a
right
to
try
to
get
through
the
city
as
fast
as
possible.
Or
do
we
first
owe
people
who
live
here?
G
You
know
the
right
to
enjoy
their
neighborhoods,
and
so
are
we
allocating
the
costs,
benefits
the
burdens
of
our
transportation
system,
particularly
active
transportation
like
equitably
to
communities,
because
what
might
be
equitable
for
one
transportation
group
might
have
land
development
impacts
that
negatively
impact
the
community
that
is
now
home
to
this
infrastructure.
G
So
so,
how
do
you
because
a
lot
of
your
engagement,
I
think,
you're
going
to
hear
that
that
equity
piece
of
like
well,
we
want
this,
but
we
don't
want
the
negative
impacts
of
this
or
how
are
you
going
to
ensure
that
building
a
bike
lane
doesn't
displace
people
or
or
trigger
a
lot
of
development
that
in
concert
works
together
to
displace
people?
So
that's
generally,
my
overarching
concern
with
that.
I
think
that
was
maybe
a
coherent
enough
thought.
I
think
about
this
lot.
So
I
apologize.
If
I
have
too
much
to
say.
C
Cadence,
do
you
want
to
just
kind
of
give
just
your
perspective
comes
as
a
person?
I
don't
know
how
to
how
does
the
bc
work
with
like
sharing
perspectives
of
like
hey,
I
am
an
asian
american
woman
who
bikes
and
is
unemployed
currently
and
that's
like
the
framework
and
how
comfortable
people
are
with
sharing
that
because
yeah,
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
where
people
are
coming
from.
I
know
cadence,
so
I
know
their
background
and
that
they
work
in
transportation,
so
yeah
feel
free
to
add
that
for
context
as
well.
C
If
people
are
comfortable
with
it
thanks
cadence
the
next
hand
is
dan
miller.
B
Yeah
as
I've
been
listening
to
this
conversation,
I've
been
thinking
about
a
project
that
chris
has
been
involved
with
and
that's
on,
lindale
avenue
north
and
it's
a.
B
I
don't,
have
the
correct
term,
but
it's
a
traffic
calming
project
that
this
last
year,
where
there
were
temporary
bullard's
put
in
and
this
year,
there's
going
to
be
concrete,
bump
outs,
I'm
assuming
chris
that
basically
try
to
rein
in
some
of
the
speeds
on
lindell
avenue,
and
it
seemed
like
this
discussion
we've
been
having
about
engagement
about
before
and
about
during
and
after
really
rang
out
in
those
neighborhoods
up
there.
B
It's
five
o'clock-
and
I
was
wondering
if,
if
chris
has
you
know
what
what
he
might
be,
what
has
he
learned
from
that
project
and
what
is
he
hearing
I
mean
I
could
imagine
that
people
are
wondering
what
those
goofy
bullets
are
up.
There
are
at
the
moment
and
they'll
probably
be
everything
from
elation
to
an
outcry
about
trying
to
slow
traffic
on
lindale
avenue
and
I'll
put
it
over
to
chris.
D
Yeah
thanks
dan,
actually
there's
been
really
positive
feedback
to
the
bollards.
I've
only
heard
good
things.
I
I
think
there
was
one
person
who
would
at
one
of
the
neighborhood
organization
meetings
who
was
like
who
was
like
those
those
like
make
me
have
to
slow
down
to
turn,
and
I
was
just
like
yeah
that's
kind
of
the
idea,
but
but
so
so
I'll
say
in
general,
with
the
engagement
that
I've
done,
which
hasn't
been
super
extensive
and
I
I
think,
like
moving
forward.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
that.
D
We
can
add
for
projects
like
that.
That
goes
all
the
way
to
that
that
one's
unique
and
I
don't
know
how
much
we
want
to
get
into
this
detail.
But
if
we
were
awarded
federal
funding
that
we
applied
for
back
in
2018-
and
we
don't
do
like
community
engagement
before
that,
we
just
like
put
the
projects
forward
at
the
time
and
I
think
maybe
there's
even
like
a
way
we
can
think
about
like.
D
D
I
don't
really
have
a
a
ton
else
to
add,
I
think,
maybe
like
upper
harbor
terminal
and
there's
so
there's
some
other
projects
that
have
done
a
better
like
more
inclusive
job
of
equity,
partially
because
there's
more
interest
in
it
and
like
passion
around
some
of
the
bigger
projects
that
this
the
project
that
you
mentioned
dan
on
lindale,
really
isn't
gonna
like
it's,
not
removing
parking.
It's
gonna
make
it
safer,
but
it's
kind
of
a
a
low
low
impact
in
in
some
ways,
but.
B
Yeah,
but
I
think
that
I
don't
know
it's
just
an
interesting
one
to
you
know
you
don't
have
the
factor,
it's
bicycles,
that's
the
biking,
parking
things,
so
you
got
that
out
of
the
way,
it's
literally
about
just
slowing
people
down
and
and
being
able
to
get
across
that
street
and
board
buses
easier
and
everything.
But
I
guess
the
one
thought
that
I
have
is
sometimes,
maybe
maybe
you
don't
toot
your
horn
enough
after
these
things
are
done,
is
I
think,
that's
that's
an
incredible
project
going
on
up
there.
B
B
M
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
I
mean
since
this
committee
is
called
the
five
e's
and
we
are
quite
dependent
on
public
works,
actually
managing
the
engagement
process
on
individual
projects.
Has
this
committee
ever
done
anything
in
the
past
on
engagement.
C
N
K
D
I
I
wonder,
I'm
not
sure
if
alyssa's
on
or
not
has
the
bac
ever
like
formally,
I
know
click
was
I'm
gonna,
get
the
words
wrong,
but
like
participatory
budgeting,
that's
what
it
is.
It
has
the
bac
ever
ever
actually
formally
kind
of
proposed
anything
around
that.
L
That
I
recall
in
terms
of
the
the
bac
operating
a
project
that
is
outside
of
itself,
I
mean
from
the
city's
perspective.
The
bac
is
one
tool
of
engagement
and
has
operated
that
way,
and
so
is
one
of
the
places
where,
where
the
city
enterprise
goes
to
get
feedback
on
things
like
the
capital
budget,
so
it's
kind
of
a
sort
of
participatory
budgeting,
light
type
of
thing.
The
one
other
thing
I'll
just
add
is
early
on.
M
Oh
and
that
actually
one
of
the
reasons
I
asked
that
is,
as
as
bree
pointed
out
and
I
might
have
to
go
along
with
her
as
I'm
not
so
sure
that
I
know
enough
about
my
ward.
That
says
that
I'm
a
proper
representative
of
it.
If,
if,
if
we
are
assumed
to
be
the
engagement,
then
I'm
assuming
we're
supposed
to
be
representative
at
least
geographically.
K
Can
I
respond
to
that?
I
I
get
really
nervous
if,
if
I
hear
that
bac
members
feel
an
expectation
to
like
to
be
experts
of
your
ward
in
a
way
that,
like
feels
like
staff
work,
I
guess
so
like
what
I
mean
is
like.
We
are
not
we.
We
are
not
and
should
not
expect
you
all
to
to
do
that
kind
of
work.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying
like
we.
K
K
Now,
if
you,
if
you
like,
do
if
you
happen
to
be
involved
in
that
way
and
know
a
lot
and
I'll
just
say
dan,
I
mean
dan,
I
feel,
like
you
know,
ward
one
like
probably
better
better
than
most
staff,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
it's
like
what
I'm
saying
is
like
any
anything
you
want
to
do
or
where
your
interests
go.
K
Sort
of
like
outside
of
you
know
what
you're
reacting
to
is
is
always
good,
but
I
just
I
just
don't
want
you
all
to
feel
pressure,
because
it's
a
volunteer
position,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
helps
or
if
I'm
articulating
it
correctly.
But
I
I
especially
diana
what
you
said.
I
don't
feel
I
don't
want
you
to
like
feel
any
type
of
bad
about
your
knowledge
of
the
ward
4
project.
So
I'll
stop
talking
some
rambling.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah,
I
would
just
jump
in
to
re.
Read
it
well
just
to
say
that
my
takeaway
and
writing
another
comment.
Is
it
just
as
we
look
at
the
engineering
specifics
of
a
project?
It
seems
totally
reasonable
for
us
to
think
about
and
advise
public
works.
Also
on
the
sort
of
how
and
what
of
engagements
you
know,
type
style
pacing
amount,
yeah
yeah.
I
just
feel
like
that's
a
that's
a
very
reasonable
thing
to
do
so.
That's
this
discussion
is
one
takeaway
for.
C
Me
thanks.
Phillip
next
is
maya.
C
And
philip
your
hand
is
still
up
just
so
you
know
well
thanks
everyone.
C
I
mean
this
is
flowing
quite
well
in
my
opinion,
because
the
next
slide
is
education
and
we're
really
kind
of
getting
into
that
realm
of
you
know
talking
about
engagement
and
how
we
interact
with
individuals
and
groups
and
now
getting
into
like
what
we're
sharing
with
people
and
the
guiding
question,
and
we've
touched
on
this
as
well
as
like
how
can
the
bac
push
public
works,
to
define
their
role
in
education
and
how
chris
and
I
we
talked
about
like
partnerships
and
systems
and
features.
C
So
it's
it's
a
lot
in
education
right
because
you
have
the
built
environment,
you
have
using
of
bikes
a
lot
of
things.
So,
okay,
let's
see
who
else
launch
here.
J
Oh
okay,
all
right
so
education
perspectives.
It
seems
like,
as
far
as
education,
tapping
into
efforts
in
the
education
system
in
minneapolis,
public
schools
and
supporting
those
are
where
we
can
really
have
an
impact,
teach
people
about
cycling
and
cycling
networks.
More
people
who
know
the
benefits
to
cycling
leads
to
more
people
writing
and
leads
to
more
advocates
when
it
comes
to
vote
comes
time
to
vote.
J
Most
of
my
perspectives
come
from
volunteering
in
the
mps
specifically
seward
montessori.
I
believe
all
students
should
have
the
opportunity
to
learn
to
bike
by
third
grade.
Every
school
should
have
a
functional
bike:
fleet
capable
of
supporting
class
field
trips
field
trips
are
easy
to
manage
by
bike,
because
buses
are
in
very
short
supply
and
late.
Buses
have
caused
my
children
field
trips
to
be
abbreviated.
Children's
field
trips
would
be
abbreviated
or
partially
cancelled.
Access
to
learn
to
ride
programs
in
schools
is
an
equity
issue.
The
city
should
support
mts
with
making
bike
education
universal.
J
J
Educating
the
public
about
bike
facilities,
as
well
as
their
role
in
traffic
calming
is
needed.
I
think
we
could
work
with
schools
and
bike
shops
to
educate
people,
especially
young
people,
about
the
opportunity
that
cycling
provides
exercise,
pleasure,
transportation,
etc
in
promoting
multimodal
lifestyles
in
minneapolis.
We
need
local
neighborhood-based
ambassadors
telling
their
stories
why
things
are
done
as
they
are,
how
other
cities
are
addressing
the
issues.
J
C
It
let
me
start
reading
the
whole
slide
from
it
yeah,
so
it
seemed
like
a
lot.
The
majority
of
the
responses
was
about
riding
bikes.
I
Yeah,
I
think,
with
education.
It
sort
of
feels
like
it's
related
to
cadence's
point
about
engagement.
It's
helpful
to
have
a
project
that
you're
describing
to
people
and
education
in
some
ways
feels
like
what
you
can
do
when
there's
not
a
project
that
you're
specifically
soliciting
feedback
about,
and
I
also
think
we
could
definitely
do
better
with
education
on
the
costs
of
bike
infrastructure
versus
car
infrastructure.
I
We
you
frequently
hear
people
complain
about
all
the
money
that
goes
into
bike
facilities.
When
you
know
everybody
drives,
but
very
few
people
bike
and
they
cost
all
this
money,
so
not
just
education
around
the
cost
of
putting
in
the
facilities,
but
on
the
maintenance
and
the
ongoing
costs
that
we
see
every
year.
I
I
feel
like
pieces
like
that.
If
we
could
talk
about
them
more
regularly
would
help
everybody
understand
benefits
to
the
the
overall
budgets
better.
G
Yeah,
I
I
really
like
that
framing
daniel,
especially
just
because
I'm
thinking
there's
a
lot
of
misconceptions
about
what
actually
funds,
what
infrastructure
and
its
property
taxes
and
people
have
this
and
by
people
I
mean
a
lot
of
anti-bike
infrastructure.
G
Local
opponents
are
like
well,
I
already
paid
for
infrastructure,
and
it's
like
you
do,
but
not
how
you
think
that
you
do
right
and
the
way
that
this
is
funded
is
through
property
taxes,
and
that's
everyone
pays
into
that
right.
Renters,
homeowners
et
cetera,
so
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
education
there,
where
you
can
make
kind
of
an
equity
case
of
well.
This
is
actually
how
these
projects
are
funded
and
if
you
want
to
build
more
auto
only
roadways.
G
Well,
the
funding
is,
is
not
coming
from
a
gas
tax,
and
if
you
want
more
funding,
then
let's,
let's,
let's
raise
the
gas
tax
right.
Let's
have
that
quarter,
increase
to
fund
transit
that
gets
voted
down
frequently.
My
second
thought
is
that
I
think
this
is
an
excellent
area
for
partnerships.
We
have
the
bicycle
alliance
of
minnesota
that
does
a
lot
of
education,
bike,
radios
and
so
education.
To
me
is
both
like
sort
of
that
intellectual
case,
for
this
is
why
we
should
support
this
infrastructure.
G
Here's
the
cost
benefit
analysis,
but
also
like
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
know
how
to
ride
a
bike.
Don't
have
access
to
a
bike,
don't
know
how
to
work
on
their
bike
like
it's,
it's
more
than
just
biking
right,
and
it's
also.
G
How
do
you
ride
in
traffic,
and
I
think
we
see
a
lot
of
growing
pains
when
we
do
get
new
infrastructure
implemented
and
built
that
not
everyone
uses
it
the
way
that
it
was
intended,
and
some
people
just
might
not
have
strong
knowledge
or
experience
with
like
trail
etiquette,
or
this
is
how
you
pass
an
unprotected
bike
lane
or
maybe
not
pass
someone
too
closely
right.
So
there's
a
lot
there,
where
I
think
partnerships
with
existing
organizations
and
it
could
also
be
schools,
it
could
also
be
like
trusted
advocate
messengers.
G
G
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
broad
category
and
maybe
it's
even
like
there's
like
a
how
to
how
to
bike
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
pamphlet,
I'm
just
thinking
about
like
the
share
the
road
education
campaign
stickers
from,
I
think
about
2013
2014
that
were
really
cute
public
art,
stickers
and
window
decals.
If
anyone
remembers
that
campaign,
I
don't
remember
the
name
of
it.
I
think
it
was
called
share
the
road,
but
also
could
be
a
great
way
to
like
work
with
artists
as
well.
G
As
you
know,
maybe
people
that
we
don't
necessarily
think
as
bike
advocates,
but
that
people
in
other
fields
to
get
that
information
communicated.
C
A
This
is
not
a
terribly
well
formed
thought,
but
one
thing
that
it
has
felt
like
the
bac
has
maybe
struggled
with
a
little
bit
over
the
last
number
of
years
is
like
exactly
what
do
we
have
the
power
to
do
as
far
as
education
right,
I
think
the
partnership
approach
cadence
that
you're
mentioning
is
super
important,
and
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
like
the
things
that
the
bac
can
do
is
influence
do
most
effectively
is
influence,
city
policy
and
influence
city
funding
and
how?
A
How
do
those
two
spheres
of
influence
relate
to
this
question
about
education
if
we,
as
a
body
are
not
actually
doing
any
of
the
education
that
you're
that
you're
talking
about,
and
so
I
think
it
this
is.
This
has
been
an
area
where
it
has
felt
really
hard
for
me
to
sort
of
get
a
grip
on.
You
know.
A
Besides,
supporting
the
existing
efforts
of
mps
and
pushing
the
city
to
support
the
existing
efforts
of
minneapolis
public
schools
around
bike
education,
it
felt
really
difficult
to
sort
of
get
a
grip
on
like
how
can
the
bac
really
have
an
impact
here?
And
so
I'm
excited
about
a
lot
of
these
ideas
and
also
still
feel
a
little
uncertain
about.
A
How
does
that
translate
to
to
doing
the
kind
of
work
that
we're
all
really
excited
about
because,
like
the
20,
some
odd
members
of
the
bc
are
not
going
to
go
out
and
teach
learn
to
ride
classes?
Right,
like
that's?
Not
what
we're
here
for
in
this
in
this
bac
role,
but
it
is,
it
hasn't
felt
as
clear
cut
in
terms
of
like
yes,
this
is
exactly
where
I
as
a
bac
member
can
plug
in.
A
I
will
say
that
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
jenny,
borden
and
one
of
the
things
that
she
suggested
we
all
could
do
as
bac.
Members
would
be
to
connect
more
proactively
with
all
of
the
schools
in
our
different
wards.
For
those
of
us
who
are
award
appointees
and
building
those
relationships
and
getting
a
better
sense
of
how
we
can
support
like
infrastructure
and
policy
decisions
that
directly
impact
schools
in
our
neighborhoods.
So
that
is
that's
an
idea
that
I'm
really
excited
about
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
that
conversation.
C
Thanks
alyssa,
phillip
and
then
robin.
J
You
know
when
I
think
about
education,
or
or
perhaps
it's
in
the
encouragement
area
that
we'll
get
to,
but
I
really
do
think
about
how
most
people
who
are
bicyclists
or
would-be
bicyclists
are
also
perhaps
bus
commuters
to
work.
They
maybe
have
a
car.
They
may
be
rent
cars.
So
for
me
it
really
is
not
that
we,
you
know
we
have
to
be
careful
about
mission
creep,
obviously,
but
for
me
education
about
bicycling
absolutely
has
to
connect
to
the
sort
of
you
know,
experience
of
most
people,
which
is
we're
not
just
bicyclists.
J
You
know.
If
we're
I
mean
it's
just
like
you
know,
if
you're
a
bus
rider,
you
were
always
a
walker,
beginning
and
ends,
and
so
you
can't
whenever
we
talk
about
transit,
we
we
have
to
talk
about.
You
know
pedestrian
activities.
So
for
me
it's
and
the
vision
of
where
we
want
to
help
the
city
go.
Is
people
who
are
single
young
parents,
elderly
people?
J
We
want
people
to
understand
that
there's
a
multi-modal
lifestyle
that
you
can
adopt
and
you
can
you
know
I
don't
know
how
many
people
have
two
cars
in
this
city,
but
you
know
it's
really
possible,
as
many
of
us
know
you
can
get
by
with
one
car
or
no
car.
If
you
have
children
but
that's
a
story.
Those
are
those
are
big
stories
to
tell
so.
We
have
to
tell
talk
about
more
than
just
bicycling.
C
L
I
I
I
just
want
to
second
some
of
what
alyssa
said,
especially
just
to
say,
like
I
think
that
has
been
a
tension
for
us
for
a
long
time.
I
remember
lots
of
conversations
with
nick
mason,
the
former
chair
of
bac
about
this.
The
city
outside
of
the
health
department
doesn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
educational
work
that
we
do,
and
so
it
has
been
a
struggle
to
to
figure
out
how
the
bac
plugs
in,
because
that's
mostly
who
we
are
advising
the
the
there
was
another.
L
There
was
nothing
that
came
to
mind
but
I'll,
try
to
remember
it
and
come
back
to
come
back
to
everybody.
H
Me
I'll
try
and
be
quick.
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
could
think
of
education,
as
I
guess
in
like
an
advocacy
perspective,
are
we
allowed
to
think
about
it
and
talk
about
it
with
our
ward
members
or
with
you
know
all
of
us
and
say
hey?
You
know
that
whatever
that
intersection
is
really
tricky,
here's
who
you
can
talk
to
if
you
feel
strongly
about
it
and
hear
what
here's?
What
could
happen
like,
I'm
just
wondering,
does
education
include
advocacy
in
that
way?
I
just
don't
know.
C
Thanks
maya
and
always
take
the
time
that
you
need
no
there's
I
mean
there
is
a
time
constraint,
but
no
need
to
to
rush
robin
and
then
matthew.
L
I
remember
the
thing
it
was
actually
very
similar
to
what
she
just
said.
Maya
just
said,
one
of
the
groups
that
we
can
educate
is
the
is
the
council
members
who
appoint
most
of
you,
and
so
that's
on
what
the
bac
is
doing.
What
projects
we're
looking
at,
I
think
having
a
regular
touch
point
with
your
appointee
or
your
appointing
authority.
L
It
is
a
great
idea
and-
and
that
should
be
like
one
of
the
prime
kinds
of
education
that
we're
doing
and
maybe
doing
that
in
a
little
bit
more
of
a
structured
way
than
we
ever
have
before.
A
lot
of
folks
have
done
it,
but
it's
not.
It
hasn't
really
been
like
in
a
structured
way.
K
Anyway,
comment
is
short.
I
just
want
to
double
check.
I
I
heard
my
say
the
question
like:
are
we
allowed
or
prohibited
or
something
like
that
from
advocating,
and
I
just
want
to
double
check?
Did
you
mean
like
from
the
city's
perspective
like
as
a
bse
member.
H
Yeah,
like
ethically
I
mean
I
just
don't
know,
what's
in
our
scope,
what
we're
allowed
to
do
in
terms
of
yeah
how
the
city
views
us
and,
like,
I
guess,
our
role
here,
you
know
I
just
I
don't
really
have
clear
parameters
for
that.
K
And
do
you
kind
of
mean
like
on
your
own
time,
outside
of
meetings
or
like
in
the
meetings
or
both
just
curious?
Okay,
I
would
say
there
is
no
prohibition
on
anything.
That's
within
the
scope
of
what
we're
talking
about.
I
think
bac
met
pac
members,
I
think
we'd,
the
city
would
almost
like
expect
that
you're
also
advocates
you
know
in
a
sense
it's
like
if
there's
like,
if
there's
like
money
or
pay
involved
and
you're
a
member,
then
there's
maybe
like
an
ethics
issue
but
other
than
that.
K
No
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
like
I'm
just
thinking
of
julia
curran
on
the
pac
and
hennepin.
You
know
she's
been
on
tabling,
and
you
know
things
like
that
and
like
organizing
like
in
in
a
really
robust
way
so
and
there's
no
problems
with
that.
You
know
other
than,
but
anyway,
yeah
there's
no
problems
with
that
from
like
an
ethics
like
perspective,
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear.
I
don't
think
there's
a
problem.
A
Matthew-
and
I
would
just
this
is
alyssa-
I
would
just
add
that,
like
that's,
why
we're
all
here,
a
thing
that
I
say
often
is:
there
is
no
car
advisory
committee.
We
have
a
perspective
we're
here
to
advocate.
For
that
perspective,
that's
part
of
the
job
the
city
expects
us
to
do
so.
I
would
I
would
go
a
step
beyond
like
it's
allowed
and
acceptable
and
say,
like,
I
think,
that's
an
expectation
like
and
an
integral
part
of
the
role
that
you
like.
D
Chris,
I
was
just
gonna
add
I
think
one
I
I
hear
the
kind
of
things
that
alyssa
and
robin
said
about
how
it's
hard,
when
the
city
doesn't
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
focus
on
education
stuff.
I
think,
building
off
our
conversation
about
engagement
earlier,
I
think
that's,
maybe
one
place
where
this
question,
like
you
all,
could
kind
of
help
us
define
our
role
in
education
of
like.
Is
there
an
education
aspect
to
community
engagement
where
we're
kind
of
building
capacity
for
the
communities
that
we
go
into?
D
So
it's
not
just
like
go
in
and
take
take.
Take
like
we
want
your
input
like
give
us
give
us.
I
I
think
we're
not
very
good
at
this,
but
I
think
it's
an
area
where
we
we
could
like
go
into
a
community
and
start
to
kind
of
have
a
piece
of
that
engagement
like
be
capacity,
building
and
kind
of
leveling,
and
things
like
that.
So.
C
Okay,
so
next
up
for
the
slide
is
encouragement
perspectives.
The
next
tribute
is
kyle
larson.
N
All
right
so
encouragement
perspective.
Should
I
read
the
question
too.
N
N
I
know
you
did
I
like
it,
so
the
question
is:
what
removes
barriers
for
people
to
choose,
riding
or
actively
discourages
driving?
How
does
the
bac
support
this
so?
The
first
response,
building
accessible
quality
infrastructure
seems
to
be
the
primary
way
the
bac
can
work
on
encouragement
next
response:
how
do
we
improve
wayfinding
and
improve
pedestrian
enhancements
to
existing
networks?
N
Grand
rounds
in
equities
encouragement
almost
seems
like
it
could
be
a
replacement
for
enforcement
rather
than
a
punishment.
It's
a
reward,
not
sure.
If
that
makes
sense,
though
next
response,
a
better
infrastructure,
is
the
best
encouragement.
N
N
N
Next
response
to
me,
encouragement
to
ride
bikes
hinders
on
how
safe
people
feel
riding
a
bike
or
walking
or
moving
in
spaces.
I
feel
bac
has
done
a
decent
job
throughout
my
first
term
connecting
those
feelings
of
vulnerability
in
communities
when
it
comes
to
police
and
then
I'll
pass
it
off
to
the
next
person.
I
think
maya.
I.
H
Okay,
I
think
the
next
comment
would
be
nick
mason
did
the
most
on
this.
He
is
sorely
missed.
The
next
comment,
I
think,
as
we
continue
to
expand
bicycle
infrastructure,
that
will
naturally
encourage
more
cyclists
to
ride.
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
promote
the
work
that
is
being
done
and
the
goals
the
city
has
for
bicyclists
and
non-motorists.
H
The
next
comment
reads:
economic
incentives
and
talking
about
health
benefits
are
key
here.
The
next
comment
reads
put
forward
positive
ideas
and
challenges,
and
the
last
comment
is
like
education.
I
see
encouragement
as
getting
more
people
involved
in
collective
action
to
create
the
city.
We
need
to
better
serve
everyone,
so
backing
is
as
easy
or
even
easier
an
option
as
than
driving.
C
Thanks
youtube
so
going
back
to
the
guiding
question
of
what
removes
barriers
for
people
who
choose,
writing
or
actively
discourages
drugging?
How
does
the
bac
support
this?
Anyone
have
any
initial
thoughts
on
those
responses.
G
I
just
have
one
because
I
I
was
reading
about
this
yesterday
as
I
was
trying
to
write
a
report,
and
I
was
like
what's
the
number
one
thing
that
encourages
people
who
aren't
currently
cyclists
to
become
cyclists,
and
I
was
like
well,
of
course
it's
infrastructure,
but
right
it
depends
on
who
you
are,
and
so
this
article
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
find
it
and
see
if
I
can
set
it
here
for
for
us.
This
was
really
talking
about
like
the
gender
breakdown
right.
G
G
Other
implementation,
that's
not,
maybe
as
physically
tangible,
but
more
like
societal
like
how
do
you
make
people
feel
safe,
and
this
article
specifically
was
talking
about
mothers,
particularly
people
who
are
women
with
children
disproportionately
are
tasked
with
picking
up
children,
dropping
off
children
running
all
of
the
errands
related
to
you
know,
domestic
household
chores
etc,
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
if
any
of
you
have
ever
been
like
wow.
I
have
like
five
errands
to
run
today.
G
Not
gonna
make
it
by
bike.
I
can't
possibly
bike.
You
know
that
fast
and
have
maybe
opted
to
drive.
I
know
that
that's
the
only
reason
I
end
up
driving
is,
if
I
have
more
than
three
errands
like
it
usually
means
it's
a
car
trip,
because
either
I
can't
carry
everything
in
my
bike.
G
Trailer
or
my
bike
bag
or
or
it's
just
gonna-
take
an
exponential
amount
of
time
for
each
trip
that
I
add
that
it
forces
me
to
drive,
and
so
I
think,
encouragement
really
needs
to
move
beyond
the
physical
environment
and
really
needs
to
be
paired
more
with
like
programming
the
economic
incentive
pieces.
Can
we
please
get
a
federal
tax
credit
for
electric
bikes
instead
of
electric
vehicles
right?
G
How
do
we
break
down
those
barriers?
So
how
does
the
bac
support
this?
I
think
that's
the
great
question,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
forth
that.
I
think
it's
it's
more
than
infrastructure
for
me
personally,.
C
Thanks
cadence
yeah,
I
I
used
to
work
for
transit
for
liberal
communities
and
now
to
move
minnesota,
and
I
was
a
part
of
the
multimodal
federal
funding
that
was
back
in
the
day
and
yeah.
It
was.
It
was
interesting
because,
like
the
big
thing
we
were
pushing
was
options
right
and
I
think
currently,
even
with
all
the
bike
infrastructure
we
have
in
minneapolis,
the
easiest
option
is
to
drive
if
it's
your
physical
safety,
like.
C
I
only
recently
got
a
car
a
couple
years
ago
and
like
this
past
year,
in
particular,
just
due
to
the
anti-asian
sentiment,
I
don't
feel
super
comfortable
biking
on
a
the
greenway
or
even
the
parkway
trail,
where
there's
just
lots
of
people
around,
but
I
mean
those
are
great
infrastructure
for
cycling
and
for
those
that
are
more
privileged
or
or
have
to
use
those
to
get
around
so
yeah.
Thanks
for
that
perspective,
cadence
robin.
L
So
this
is
these
economic
things
that
we're
talking
about
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
affect
a
little
bit
like
through
zoning,
and
so
it's
exciting
to
me
that
we're
thinking
about
this
as
part
of
that
travel
demand
management,
part
of
the
of
the
parking
minimums
conversation
I
mean
there
are
all
of
these
ways
that
that
the
city
through
our
land
use
approvals,
has
been
privileging
the
automobile
and
not
really
doing
anything
at
all
to
to
help
incentivize
people
to
bike,
and
so.
L
Us
weighing
in
maybe
more
than
we
have
before
on
those
kinds
of
issues
that
like
what's
the
not
just
what's
the
street
look
like,
but
what's
going
on
in
the
building
that
the
city
allows
to
be
built
adjacent
to
that
street,
and
how
does
what's
happening
at
that
interface
between
that
private
construction
and
the
public
realm
impact?
The
way
that
people
use
the
public
realm
to
get
around
anyway?
J
Well,
I
was
just
thinking
when
we
talk
about
physical
infrastructure.
Certainly,
when
we
talk
about
cars,
then
we
jump
to
equipment
as
in
ev's
or
or
micro
mobility,
but
I'm
sitting
here
in
my
front
porch
and
I've
seen
five.
J
You
know
extended
bike
bicycles
come
past
with
gear
tools,
children
and
that's
certainly
how
I
did
it
with
my
two
children
is
that
you
have
to
have
equipment
beyond
your
standards.
You
know
25
bike.
You
pick
up
at
the
garage
sale,
so
I
think
in
that
encouragement,
education
overlap
is
helping
people
just
open
their
minds
that,
oh,
maybe
I
really
can.
If
it's
not
too
far,
I've
got
time
if
it
fits
into
my
other
goals,
like
you
know,
exercise.
Let's
help.
J
N
J
Work
hard
to
find
anything
other
than
you
know
to
haul
your
kids
around.
You
really
had
to
look
around
last
over
the
last
years,
not
anymore,
but
most
people
in
minneapolis
I'm
sure
have
no
idea
when
they
have.
For
example,
I
have
a
child.
What
sort
of
equipment
is
there
out
there
benefits?
Where
can
I
get
it?
Yeah
yeah,
so
equipment.
I
Yeah,
something
along
that
point,
philip,
that
the
city
did
was
actually
have
bike
champions
in
each
department.
I
don't
know
how
helpful
it
was
really
in
the
end,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
were
who
came
to
some
group.
Discussions
were
all
already
bikers,
but
there
were
definitely
some
sessions
that
shared
a
lot
of
ideas
like
about
commuting
with
children.
I
People
shared
their
techniques,
the
the
equipment
that
they've
tried
and
liked
routes
tips
on
just
how
they
get
around.
So
probably
a
lot
of
this
would
best
be
done
through
some
of
the
partner
agencies
like
cadence
has
talked
about
before,
but
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
there's
ways
the
bac
could
share
some
experiences
with
people
or
I
don't
know
even
on
some
projects,
maybe
if
there's
ways
that
the
bac
could
envision
interacting
or
provide
tips
on
some
of
the
projects.
Maybe
that
would
help
too.
C
A
Thanks
bri,
I
will
briefly
just
reiterate
philip
sort
of
slid
it
in
conversation,
but
I
think
the
micro
mobility
question
right
so
bike
share
and
scooter
share
are
a
really
great
example
of
a
way
that
the
bac
has
engaged
on
what
effectively
is
encouragement
having
bikes
at
like
if
we
had
bikes
at
every
corner
throughout
the
city
that
encourages
people
to
bike
right,
there's
both
the
absence
of
dangers
and
also
the
additions
of
positive
things
that
are
beyond
infrastructure.
So
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
priority.
A
For
me,
this
year
is
figuring
out.
How
do
we
continue
to
engage
with
this
question
of
bike
share
and
micro
mobility
in
minneapolis?
I
do
also
think
that
there
is
a
role
to
play
from
a
narrative
change
theory
perspective
and
I
haven't
quite
nailed
down
what
that
is
yet.
But
we
know
narrative
change.
A
Theory
tells
us
that
a
lot
of
the
decisions
that
people
make
at
policy
levels
and
implementation
levels
are
rooted
in
a
values-based
narrative
that
has
not
is
not
necessarily
connected
to
the
facts
at
hand
right,
and
we
all
know
what
people
say
about
walking
biking
in
transit
right.
A
It's
like
both
only
a
thing
that
poor
people
do,
and
it's
also
only
a
thing
that,
like
rich
white
people
from
the
suburbs
do
for
fun
on
the
weekends
while
they
wear
spandex
right
and
the
realities
are
so
much
more
complex
than
that,
and
I
think
there
is
a
role
for
us
to
play
in
terms
of
shifting
that
narrative,
whether
the
audience
there
is
with
council
members
or
with
the
public
or
with
some
other
like
group,
that
we
want
to
focus
on
to
make
sure
that
we're
both
making
our
work
of
making
change
easier,
but
also
not
perpetu,
not
allowing
there
to
be
this
narrative
that,
like
just
actively
discourages
people
from
bicycling.
A
I
recently,
like
I
taught
my
sister,
not
taught
my
sister,
but
I
like
encouraged
her
to
get
back
on
a
bike
as
an
adult
recently
for
the
first
time,
and
she
was
like
oh
everything
I
heard
about
biking
as
an
adult.
Is
that
it's
like
scary
and
terrible
and
expensive
and
really
hard,
and
so
I
just
didn't,
do
it
and
then,
when
she
did
it,
she
was
like.
Oh
all,
those
things
aren't
true
right.
A
So
I
think,
there's
also
this
narrative
change
piece
that
I
want
us
to
explore
as
a
group,
although
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
that
looks
like.
C
Thanks
alyssa
and
I
have
a
comment
based
on
that
as
well
again,
I
don't
I
like
I
like
to
I
mean
I
do
have
10
bikes
so
that
maybe
I'm
a
hypocrite,
but
I
really
like
when
I
can
just
wear
normal
clothes
and
take
out
the
crappiest
bike
that
I
own
and
just
roll
around
with
friends
and
or
run
a
quick
errand,
or
something
like
that
and
just
to
know
that,
like
you,
don't
need
fancy
things
and
also
that
it's
like
the
chicken
or
the
egg
right
of
like.
C
Why
do
why
do
a
lot
of
people
think
they
need
those
fancy
things
and
it's
because
our
communities
were
built
around
cars,
so
like
it's
extremely
tough
for
me
to
get
to
a
costco
or
other
places
that
people
want
to
go
to
get
their
basic
needs
to
do
that
and
so
yeah.
I
think
it
is
what
you
know
robin
said
about
zoning
and
like
and
then
also
where
I
see
that
the
silos
within
the
city
is
they're
detrimental,
because
everything
touches
on
all
of
this.
C
If
people
don't
feel
safe
because
their
communities
are
over
police,
then
they're
not
going
to
bike.
If
they
don't
have
a
grocery
store,
nearby,
they're,
not
going
to
bike
and
and
just
to
like
really
reimagine
what
and
how
our
city
and
how
people
interact
with
it
is
something
to
think
about.
Okay,
I
think
chris
is
next.
D
I
I
just
really
liked
what
you
were
saying
alyssa
and
I
I
wonder
if
I
think
it'd
be
cool
to
kind
of
push
public
works
on
having
some
sort
of
like
communications
campaign
or
something
that's
not
most
of
our
stuff
is
directly
tied
to
either
a
specific
project
or
like
we
do
communications
when
we
did
like
the
transportation
action
plan,
but
like
we,
we
could
potentially
put
together
some
sort
of
campaign.
That's
about
like
changing
the
narrative
and
do
some
of
that.
D
Like
broader
high-level
city-wide,
encouragement,
stuff-
and
I
don't
know-
I
I
think
it's
a
cool
idea.
B
Yeah,
I
think
it's
good
to
realize
that
the
pandemic
has
put
a
lot
of
people
that
have
not
had
been
on
bikes
before
on
bikes,
along
with
getting
pets
and
it'd
be
really
great.
If
we
can
encourage
them
to
keep
both
the
bikes
and
the
pets
after
the
pandemic
is
over.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
using
bicycles
for
the
first
time,
maybe,
and
so
for
everything
you've
said
it's
it's
it's
not
about
the
expensive
equipment.
It's
it's!
Maybe
about!
B
B
I
think
that
it's
it's
an
amazing
thing
to
realize
working
with
people
is
to
is
that
an
avenue
you
take
for
granted
central
avenue
is
is
one
mile
from
my
house
or
johnson
is
a
half
mile
or
the
quarry
is
a
quarter
mile
and
when
he
puts
some
things
like
that,
at
least
to
some
people
that
that
that's
quite
an
accomplishment
when
they
say
well,
I
can
walk
a
quarter
mile.
That's
I
got
a
half
mile
in
today
or
I
can
bike
to
central
avenue.
B
I
got
two
miles
in
and
that's
something
that
we
should
maybe
think
about,
and
you
know
how
do
we?
How
do
we
come
out
of
this
pandemic
with
more
people
having
a
bicycle
in
their
possession?
C
Thanks
dan
philip,
do
you
still
have
your
hand
up,
or
do
you
have
a
new
thing
to
talk
about.
C
Oh
okay,
okay,
the
next
slide
is
evaluation
and
we
have
15
more
minutes
scheduled
in,
and
I
saw
that
tyler
volunteered
to
read
next
and
you
can
do
half
the
slide
if
you
like,
and
you
can
pass
it
on
to
me.
If
you
want
to
thank
you.
O
Sounds
good
thanks
bree,
so
where
are
the
opportunities
to
better
evaluate
projects
and
processes?
So
evaluation
number
one
here
this
seems
like
a
place.
The
bac
should
have
more
power
and
influence
than
it
does
in
practice.
We
are,
and
we
are
an
accountability
body.
O
O
O
Fourth,
one
here,
someone
who
is
perceptive
from
public
works
should
ride
a
bike,
perhaps
together
with
community,
volunteer
evaluators
on
all
bike
infrastructure
projects,
rather
on
all
bike
infrastructure
projects
after
the
work
is
mostly
complete,
but
before
the
contractors
have
been
paid
and
the
job
is
closed
out,
small
improvements
should
be
made
quickly
as
needed
to
make
the
project
inviting
and
fully
functional
streets
on
the
high
injury
network
should
be
retrofitted
as
quickly
as
humanly
possible,
with
fast
light
safety
upgrades
and
those
upgrades
should
be
system
systematically
evaluated.
O
Seven,
I'm
not
sure
about
this
one
eight.
We
must
always
try
to
measure
and
report
on
economic,
environmental
and
social
benefits
of
our
work.
I
think
I'm
on
nine.
This
is
important
that
the
goals
of
the
work
for
the
year
be
evaluated
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Things
not
accomplished
to
be
carried
over
and
last
one
here.
C
Goals
tyler
so
back
to
the
question
for
evaluation:
where
are
there
opportunities
to
better
evaluate
projects
and
processes?
So
maybe
chris
and
matthew
could
just
comment
on
how
evaluation
is
presented
if
at
all
to
the
bac.
D
Yeah,
I
could
give
a
little
bit
of
context.
So
for
those
of
you
who,
who
don't
know,
maybe
this
is
more
than
we
need,
but
like
the
transportation
planning
and
programming
division.
D
That
matthew
and
I
are
in-
is
a
relatively
new
division
like
five
six
years
or
whatever
so
we've
been
kind
of
one
of
the
newer
things
has
been
building
out
the
evaluation
program
and
that's
started
to
grow
over
the
last
like
few
years,
but
it,
but
we
haven't
really
kind
of
applied
that
in
a
super
uniform
way,
but
that's
starting
to
take
a
little
bit
more
shape
and
next
month,
for
example,
the
folks
who
are
running
our
evaluation
are
bringing
they're
do,
they're
doing
evaluation
on
the
tactile
strip
used
on
hennepin
downtown
to
separate
the
bike
lane
and
the
pedestrian
area.
D
So
a
super
specific
evaluation
thing,
but
that
that
I
think
will
be
like
a
good
inroads
into
what
kind
of
evaluation
the
bac
can
work
like
work
on
and
comment
on,
and
I
think
that'll
be
a
good
place
to
kind
of
talk
to
katie
and
amy
about
what
their
thoughts
are
for,
evaluation
and
and
the
ways
that
you
all
can
kind
of
contribute
to
that.
D
So
just
a
little
bit,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
I
said
this,
but
basically
we
haven't
brought
a
lot
of
evaluation
to
the
committees
before,
and
so
I
think,
as
we
start
to
do,
that
it
would
probably
come
through
the
5e
subcommittee
for
all
those
some
of
them
might
be
kind
of
included
in,
like
the
engineering
work,
depending
on
what
the
question
is.
But.
E
I
just
had
a
kind
of
a
follow-up
question
about
that
chris
for
my
own
understanding,
partly
for
as
benefits
bac
members
and
also
as
cped
staff.
You
said
katie
and
amy.
So
are
there
people
that
are
specifically
kind
of
like
taking
the
evaluation
corner
or
like?
How
is
that
working
nowadays
in
public
works.
D
Yeah,
so
so
they
they
manage
our
evaluation
program,
which
which
basically
like
the
raw
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
that
is,
is
that
we've
started
collecting
like
pre
and
post
data
for
every
project
or
theoretically,
it
should
be
for
every
project.
So
like
crash
data,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
counts,
a
number
of
other
things
that
I'm
forgetting
right
now.
D
But
so
that's
that's
like
the
the
core
evaluation
program,
with
the
idea
that
we
would
be
able
to
kind
of
go
in
to
any
of
those
projects
and
and
look
at
if
we
want
to
say,
like
one
of
our
bump
out,
projects
done
be
able
to
kind
of
look
at
those.
D
But
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
like
how
to
how
to
narrow,
in
the
focus
on
that
to
be
more
useful
like
to
be
most
useful
to
us.
So
I
think
that's
like.
If
the
bac
has
specific
questions
related
to
evaluation,
I
think
that'll
be
one
of
the
things
that
will
be
most
useful
to
katie
and
amy
and
just
the
way
that
we
do
things,
because
I
think
we're
trying
to
figure
that
out
somewhat
ourselves
now.
C
Thanks
yeah,
I
mean
for
me,
evaluation
seems
like
it
could
also
be
tied
with
the
engagement
part
of
it
to
follow
back
with
communities
and
make
sure
that,
like
they're,
the
ones
that
are
using
it
and
a
lot
of
times
for
evaluation,
I
just
hear
quantitative
measures
and
that
only
in
my
opinion
tells
part
of
the
story
and
also
a
question
that
comes
up
is:
if
you
evaluate
a
project
and
it's
horrible,
how
are
we
able
to
make
changes
because
the
fun
game
is
gone
now,
because
the
project's
complete
and
how
to
build
in
kind
of
like
I
mean
the
city
has
done
it
in
the
sense
of
like
I
know
on?
C
Was
it
28th
or
26th,
like
a
median,
was
taken
down
for
a
bike
lane
because
drivers
kept
on
hitting
it,
and
I
yeah
things
like
that
of
like
in
my
mind
the
big
one
is
the
the
intersection
at
franklin
and
is
the
east
river
parkway,
where
you
like
roll
onto
from
the.
I
don't
really
understand
how
I
I
just
avoid
it
entirely
and
yeah
any
ideas
on
when
you
evaluate
like
how
that
will
be
respective
and
open
to
change.
D
D
I
I
we
don't
do
a
lot
of
qualitative
evaluation
and
there's
excuses
for
that,
like
it
costs
money
or
a
lot
of
like
time
to
go
out
there,
but
the
reality
is
we
spend
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
on
these
projects
so
like
it's,
not
a
very
good
excuse,
but
we
we
haven't,
prioritized
that,
like
us,
like
survey,
follow-up
or
things
like
that
for
projects
in
the
past.
F
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
throw
out
there
that
a
couple
of
I
think
perspectives
about
potential
for
evaluation
and
and
one
of
those
is
that
evaluation
can
be
used
as
a
framework
for
engagement
and
for
ensuring
that
that
engagement
is,
is
iterative
and
useful.
I
mean
an
evaluation
should
be
useful
to
all
of
the
participants
in
it
and
not
just
exclusively.
F
F
F
C
Thanks
heather
matthew.
K
You
know
I'll
just
speak
for
my
my
role
in
public
works,
but
you
know,
I
think,
with
with
evaluation,
I
think,
as
a
department.
We
need
to
be
comfortable
trying
new
things,
because
we
need
to
do
new
things
in
order
to
you
know,
meet
our
goals
and
get
better,
and
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
comfortable
with,
like
those
things
not
working
and
then
the
key
point
is
at
that.
At
that
time,
do
we
continue
to
learn
and
do
better
next
time
or
do
we
say
like
that
concept?
K
K
You
know,
and
and
those
things
were
new
and
stuff-
and
it
came
out-
and
you
know-
we've
learned
a
lot
since
then
and
and
it's
taken
a
long
time,
but
now
we're
we're
trying
to
incorporate
elements
of
protected
intersections
into
our
into
our
projects,
and
so
but
but
I
think
there
there
can
be
a
there
can
be
a
fear
of
that
that
failure
and-
and
so
I
I
think,
that's
one
thing
for
this
group-
I
mean
that
I
could
see
it
being
helpful
to
like
encourage
us
to
try
new
things
and
if
they
don't
work
like
that's
fine
and
but
we
still
need
to.
C
Well,
that's
good
yeah,
there
shouldn't
be
a
fear
failure.
I
mean.
Hopefully
that
is
not
the
culture
in
this
city.
Maybe
I
don't
know
it
seems
like
it's.
It's
a
it's
a
u.s
sort
of
thing,
fear
of
failure
and
the
retributions
that
come
with
that,
okay,
cadence.
G
Yeah,
just
real
quick
when
I
think
about
evaluation
like
what
is
the
purpose
of
evaluation
like?
Are
we
trying
to
justify
like
the
amount
that
was
spent
on
the
projects?
Are
we
determining
if
a
project
is
increasing
safety
for
the
active
transportation
users?
And
what
does
that
look
like
because
I
feel
like
if
we
have
to
evaluate
bike
lanes
or
trails
in
terms
of
like
how
safe
do
they
keep
people?
And
if
we
were
to
like
apply
that
to
driving
lanes
like
we
lose
a
lot
of
people
every
year
through
driving?
G
And
so
it's
like
just
my
devil's
advocate
part
of
me.
That's
like.
If
we're
going
to
apply
this
to
bike
lanes,
I
want
it
applied
to
traffic
engineering
standards
as
well,
so
that
you
can
see
that,
like
actually
most
people
who
bike
you
know
like
have
improved
life
quality,
save
more
money.
Things
like
that.
So
I
know
that
the
evaluation
is
more
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint,
but
I
guess
I
I
would
want
to
see
that.
G
Also
I,
like
quantitative
analyses
of
like
this,
is
how
much
carbon
emissions
were
reduced
by.
You
know
this
percentage
of
mode
shift,
because
this
bike
connection
was
made
between.
You
know
28th
avenue,
and
you
know
across
the
city
things
like
that.
So
I
guess
I
just
have
questions
about
like
what
is
the
purpose
of
our
evaluation?
Is
it
just
another
roadblock
or
barrier?
That's
given
to
us
by
policymakers
that
oppose
bike
lane
infrastructure?
So
just
that
caveat
for
me.
L
Robin
I
just
really
wanted
a
second,
what
matthew
said
and
and
say
that
sometimes
I
think
we
in
the
bac
can
kind
of
fall
into
the
trap
of
of
being
like
pro
cyclical
in
the
in
the
fear
of
failure
way
and
and
and
can,
can
help
sort
of
reinforce
that
dynamic
of
like
don't
try
new
stuff.
So
it's
just
a
thing
for
us
to,
I
think,
be
careful
about
like
when
we
are
when
we
are
commenting
on
a
thing
that
didn't
work.
C
Thanks
robin
well
thanks
everyone
for
sticking
with
it.
We
didn't
get
through
the
entire
presentation,
but
I
think
at
the
next
meeting
we
can
talk
about
the
last
three
slides.
I
really
appreciate
the
conversations
and
the
questions
that
came
up
and
yeah.
I
will
see
you
all
soon
on
the
zoom
or
whatever.
This
is
thanks.
Everyone.