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From YouTube: July 26, 2021 Southside Green Zone Council meeting
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A
B
Yeah,
no
for
sure,
thank
you
all
for
being
able
to
join
us
on
this
warm
monday
night.
Very
happy
that
we
did
get
some
rainfall
like
the
drought
was
really
serious.
C
B
Getting
really
worried
for
a
while,
but
I
will
start
off
with
you
know
my
name,
my
rule
on
the
south
side
green
zones,
what
ward
I
reside
in
as
well
as
whether
I
guess
what
is
one
thing
that
you're
maybe
looking
forward
to
as
we
now
embark
on
the
end
of
the
summer?
Is
there
like
any
vacation
plans
or
activities
or
anything
you
have
planned
for
the
end
of
the
summer?
So
I'll
start
off?
My
name
is
kosar
mohammed.
B
I
reside
in
the
phillips
area
now
so
I
moved
again.
So
that's
another
conversation,
so
I
moved
and
I
am
still
a
ward
6
resident.
I
I
think
if
I'm
looking
at
the
geography
correctly,
I
need
a
double
check.
This
is
my
second
time
moving
during
the
pandemic,
so
that's
exciting.
B
For
the
my
summer
plans
I
do
have
a
trip
planned
with
my
mom
to
san
diego
at
the
end
of
august.
That
I'm
really
excited
for
this
is
her
first
trip
since
the
pandemic.
I've
taken
a
trip
out
during
july
4th
weekend
to
chicago,
so
I'm
less
worried
compared
to
how
worried
I
was
before.
B
So
I
will
pop
oh
and
I'm
a
voting
member
for
the
south
side
green
zone
council,
so
I
will
popcorn
it
off
to
cassie.
E
E
Okay,
it's
nine,
but
my
name's
cassie.
I
live
at
little
earth
and
ward
9
I'll,
probably
forget
that
next
meeting,
what
I'm
looking
forward
to
is
my
baby
coming
home
from
texas,
maybe
we'll
be
going
to
pick
her
up
like
in
early
august,
because
she'll
be
starting
school
in
late
august,
so
so
waiting
for
her
to
come
home
and
we're
gonna
go
take
a
weekend,
camping
or
something.
E
Pop
corn,
it
to
mike.
F
F
So
I
live
over
in
seward,
just
south
of
matthews
park
not
too
far
away,
I
think
technically,
outside
the
green
zone,
but
right
around
the
corner
and
in
terms
of
summer
I
am
going
up
to
the
boundary
waters
for
the
first
time
in
about
a
month
as
long
as
we
don't
get
any
wildfires
and
whatnot.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
I'm
not
super
outdoorsy,
so
I'm
kind
of
counting
on
my
friends
to
you
know
make
sure
I
get
in
and
out
in
one
piece.
G
Okay,
thank
you.
Karen
clark,
we're
nine
down
the
street
from
casting
across
the
street
from
megan.
Let's
see,
I'm
a
voting
member.
G
H
Sounds
good,
I'm
megan
cool
stennis
she
her.
I
live
in
the
east,
phillips
neighborhood
in
ward
9
and
I'm
a
voting
member
and
I
am
looking
forward
to
oddly
enough.
We
are.
We
are
doing
a
big
old
road
trip
in
december,
so
I'm
not
exactly
looking
forward
to
december,
but
I
am,
though,
on
days
like
today
december
sounds
lovely.
We
are
taking
a
trip
down
to
texas
for
my
cousin's
wedding
in
austin
and
we're
turning
it
into
a
a
road
trip.
So
we're
gonna
go
see
padre
island
and
some.
C
H
Fun
things
there
so,
oh,
I
will
pass
it
over
to
samara.
I
Hi,
my
name
is
samara.
J
G
E
J
You,
let
me
see
who's
in
here.
K
I
had
surgery
about
four
weeks
ago
I
had
to
have
my
hip
replaced,
so
I
live
in
ward
4
and
I
used
to
live
in
ward
9
on
again
off
again,
both
in
powderhorn
and
east
phillips
and
I've
been
following.
What's
been
going
on
with
the
green
zones
and
I'm
trying
to
participate
on
the
north
side,
and
I
was
rehired
for
the
state
fair,
I
work
in
the
lost
and
found
there
so
I'll
be
there
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
maybe
being
able
to
ride
my
bike
again
this
year,
wow.
L
Yeah
dan,
oh,
the
o,
stands
for
olsen
and
I
am
with
the
mpca
in
communications,
and
I
wanted
to
sit
in
tonight
and
just
kind
of
listen
to
some
of
that
presentation
on
abbott
northwestern
as
we
move
forward
and
communicate
that
project
to
the
various
stakeholders
and
neighborhoods.
L
I
just
wanted
to
stay
apprised
what
people's
questions
are
and
that
kind
of
thing
for
my
summer,
what
I'm
excited
about
a
year
ago,
my
brother
and
I
bought
tickets
to
see
our
favorite
band
squeeze
and,
of
course
it
got
delayed
now
until
the
end
of
august,
but
apparently
they
are
going
to
be
performing
with
all
notes
at
the
end
of
august.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
that.
G
A
A
A
M
Hi,
my
name
is
jeff
hedman.
This
is
my
my
first
south
side
green
zone
meeting
I've
been
to
I'll
be
presenting
as
dan
mentioned,
about
the
abbott
northwestern
project.
That's
that's
proposed
at
the
moment.
Let's
see,
let
me
think
of
the
question
excited
for
the
end
of
summer.
M
Am
I
I
am
both
excited
and
terrified
that
my
only
child,
my
five-year-old
is
about
to
start
kindergarten
and
we've
been
trying
to
prep
him
for
that
a
little
bit
through
covid,
because
he
can't
play
with
his
friends
nearly
as
much
over
the
past
year
and
a
half,
but
we
also
want
to
help
him
get
ready,
and
so
we've
been
trying
to
do
a
little
bit
of
learning
at
home,
but
that's
a
challenge,
as
some
of
you
may
know,
so
that
that's
been
our
summer,
both
looking
forward
to
it
and
super
scared
about.
M
D
F
I'll,
just
since
maybe
she's
having
some
technical
difficulties
so
he's
a
colleague
of
mine
working
in
public
works
this
summer
and
hopefully
she'll
be
able
to
jump
back
on
in
a
second
and
introduce
herself
better
than
I
can
but
she's
another
public
works
staff
person
working
on
the
traffic
safety
projects.
F
And
do
you
want
me
to
jump
in
kelly?
Are
there
other
business
things
handled
before
start
the
presentation.
A
Yeah,
unless
kosar
and
samara
have
anything
that
I've
forgotten,
I
think
we're
ready
for
the
presentations.
F
Great
well,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
having
us
here
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come.
Talk
to
you
about
this,
this
project
that
that
we're
working
on
so
again
my
name
is
mike
samuelson,
I'm
a
transportation
planner
for
public
works.
I
use
vegan
pronouns.
F
I
have
a
brief
presentation
today
and
then
afterward
we're
going
to
do
a
little
activity
to
hopefully
sort
of
prompt
some
discussion
about
about
the
project.
So
I'm
going
to
try
and
share
my
screen
here.
Hopefully
after
a
year,
I
can
do
that
without
screwing.
Anything
up
all
right
so
is
that
coming
through.
F
Can
somebody
just
give
me
a
quick
thumbs
up
great
thanks
thanks
kelly,
so
the
city
in
public
works,
we've
really
kind
of
shifted
our
focus
around
our
projects
from
you
know,
trying
to
move
kind
of
as
many
cars
as
possible
and
as
quickly
as
possible
to
really
prioritizing
safety
on
our
streets
and
trying
to
reduce
the
number
of
crashes
and
trying
to
reduce
speeding
on
our
streets,
and
so
my
some
of
you
might
have
heard
of
our
our
vision,
zero
program
with
a
goal
of
eliminating
deaths
and
serious
injuries
from
traffic
crashes
on
our
streets
by
2027..
F
So
this
project
is
is
kind
of
part
of
of
that
program
that
larger
initiative
by
the
city,
and
so
we
did
some
analysis
of
where
crashes
were
happening
and
we're
really
targeting
streets
where
we
see
the
most
crashes
and
unfortunately,
several
several
of
those
streets
are
in
phillips,
and
so
this
project
is
focused
on
24th,
26th,
28th,
street
and
parts
of
chicago
avenue,
which
all
have
a
history
of
just
a
lot
of
car
crashes.
F
I'll
just
say
briefly:
there's
some
streets
that
are
that
are
missing
here
so
streets
like
cedar
franklin
lake
park
in
portland.
Those
are
all
county
streets,
so
the
city
we
work
with
our
partners
at
the
county,
but
we
don't
have
full
control
of
those
streets,
so
we're
just
focusing
on
this
project
on
on
the
streets
that
we
have
control
over.
F
So
you
can
kind
of
see
the
goals
here,
which
I
mentioned,
reducing
car
crashes.
Reducing
speeding-
and
you
know
really
with
with
the
idea
that
by
doing
those
things,
it
will
be
safer
and
more
comfortable
for
people
to
travel,
whether
they're
walking
biking
driving
using
a
mobility
device.
However,
they're
they're
going
about
their
day
and
then
I've
just
got
a
little
bit
of
information
here
about
schedule.
F
We're
really
just
starting
our
public
public
engagement
right
now,
and
so
we
expect
that
to
go
into
next
year
and
then
actual
improvements
to
be
built
in
2023
and
potentially
into
2024
and
I'll
have
just
a
few
photos
of
like
some
potential
ideas
of
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about.
As
far
as
the
improvements
to
help
reduce
feeding
and
reduce
car
crashes.
F
So,
just
a
little
bit
of
background
here,
you
know
when
we
think
about
our
streets
and
and
who's
being,
unfortunately,
hit
by
cars
and
being
hurt
or
killed
that
it
does
fall
disproportionately
on
our
bike
communities,
particularly
black
residents
and
native
residents,
are
just
very
disproportionately
impacted
by
car
crashes.
F
So,
basically,
what
this
is
showing
is
that
you
know
black
residents
are
19
of
the
population,
but
they
account
for
26
of
traffic
deaths
and
native
residents
are
one
percent
of
of
the
city,
but
they
account
for
four
percent
of
traffic
deaths.
F
So
you
know
when,
when
we
think
about
inequities
in
our
city,
you
know,
traffic
traffic
deaths
and
injuries
are
probably
not
the
thing
that
rise
to
the
top
right
now,
but
you
know
from
where
we
sit
in
public
works
is
something
that
we're
we're
working
to
fix
through
projects
like
this
and
then
just
a
note
about
about
speeding
with
our
projects
we're
really
targeting
speeding,
because
we
know
that
unfortunately,
speed
kills,
and
so
what
this
graphic
is
showing
that,
if
you're
crossing
the
street
and
you
get
hit
by
a
car
and
the
car
is
going
20
miles
an
hour,
you
have
almost
a
90
chance
of
living
if
the
car
is
going
twice
as
fast.
F
If
it's
going
40
your
chance
of
living
decreases
to
you
know
about
25.
So
we
know
that
if
we
can
get
cars,
traveling
slower
that's
going
to
be
safer
for
everyone
involved,
but
especially
people
who
are
walking
who
are
the
most
prominent.
F
Oh.
I
just
have
a
couple
photos
here,
showing
like
some
of
the
things
that
we
might
look
into.
We've
done
these
kinds
of
projects
in
the
past,
in
fact,
in
in
parts
of
philips.
So
the
first
is
called
a
bump
out.
Basically,
what
it
does
is
it
kind
of
extends
the
curve,
so
it's
a
little
bit
shorter
for
people
to
cross.
So
actually
the
the
bottom
photo
is
stewart
park
right
on
26th
here,
so
these
were
put
in
a
few
years
ago.
F
F
So
we
actually
just
did
a
walk
last
week
in
both
east
phillips
and
westfield
with
with
a
handful
of
residents
and
would
be
happy
to
do
more
of
those
walks
with
people
almost
call
it
if
y'all
are
interested
just
to
go
out
and
see
the
conditions
that
are
out
there-
and
you
know
hear
from
you
about
the
the
kinds
of
things
that
you
experience
as
you're
traveling
around
the
neighborhood
and
one
of
the
things
we
heard
was.
F
You
know
this
issue
of
not
being
able
to
see
around
parked
cars
as
you're,
trying
to
cross
the
street
and
how
dangerous
that
can
be.
So
this
this
kind
of
treatment
can
can
help
with
that
just
a
couple
more
more
slides
here.
So
a
median
this
is
this
is
over
north.
This
is
on
emerson
avenue.
F
So
again,
this
is
just
a
way
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
protection
for
someone
crossing
the
street
here
kind
of
shortens
up
that
space
and
encourages
cars
to
slow
down,
because
the
space
is
a
little
bit
shorter
for
crossing
and
the
street's
a
little
bit
narrower
and
then
the
last
photo
I
have
here.
F
This
is
this
is
plymouth
avenue
over
north
and
this
is
a
protected
bikeway
with
a
curb.
So
I
know
on
26th
and
28th
we
had
some
bikeways
that
went
in
a
few
years
ago.
I
know
there's
kind
of
mixed
mixed
feelings
about
you
know
if
people
like
those
or
not
so
this
is
again
something
that
we
could
consider,
but
I
think
a
big
part
of
what
we're
here
tonight
is
just
to
hear
from
you
all.
F
As
we
start
this
project
and
hear
about
you
know
what
you
want
to
see
where
the
that
parts
of
of
these
streets,
where
you
want
us
to
focus,
and
so
with
that
I
see
cassandra's,
got
a
hand
up
I'm
just
I
see
that
silvia's
also
here
I
just
want
to
let
her
introduce
herself
and
then
they'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Cassie.
D
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
so
sorry
I
was
kicked
off
from
the
meeting.
I
I
don't
understand
why,
but
happily
I'm
back
and
I'm
silvie.
I
am
the
transportation
engagement,
fellow
with
the
city
of
minneapolis
public
works
and
tonight
oh
no.
I
think
I
will
try
to
answer
the
question
at
the
beginning,
I'm
so
sorry
yeah.
I
look
forward
to
go
back
to
gardening
and
because
I
have
been
missing
that
yeah
so
now,
maybe
who
had
a
question
before
I
start
my.
E
D
C
E
I
would
really
like
to
see
cars
that
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
around
stopped
cars,
because
there's
lots
of
kids
who
get
hit
because
a
car
will
stop
for
a
pedestrian,
and
somebody
behind
them
would
go
around
instead
of
waiting,
not
realizing.
What's
going
on,
and
that's
how
we've.
C
E
One
of
our
little
ones
here
in
the
neighborhood-
and
I
see-
and
I've
actually
almost
witnessed
it
again
like
couple
weeks
ago-
a
car
trying
to
go
around
another
car
that
we
had
to
honk
and
make
stop.
Because
there
was
little
kids
walking.
F
Okay,
thank
you
for
for
sharing
that
it's
helpful
for
us
to
to
hear
and
yeah.
Unfortunately,
I
know
just
what
you're
talking
about
so
I
think
at
this
point,
sylvie's
gonna
lead
us
through
a
little
activity
to
just
sort
of
prompt
some
discussion,
so
I'm
going
to
just
share
something
in
the
chat
here.
Oh
it
looks
like
karen's
got
a
question
as
well.
G
F
G
I
do,
can
I
speak.
Are
you
saying
yeah
go
ahead?
Okay?
Well
mike
and
silvie
thanks
for
being
here
and
doing
this,
I
I
wonder
about
who
decided
what
the
goals
were
of
this
were
in
terms
of
traffic
safety,
because
I
have
to
tell
you,
and
especially
since
you're
at
the
south
side
green
zone,
the
traffic
safety
issues
that
concern
me
have
to
do
with
the
health
issues
caused
by
heavy
traffic
in
our
area,
the
the
air
pollution
and
the
the
lives
and
deaths
of
people.
G
Because
of
you
know,
heavy
traffic,
and
so
I
I
I
would
ask
maybe
to
add
a
third
goal
or
fourth
goal,
maybe
even
so
you've
got
reducing,
speeding
and
improving
the
comfort,
the
safety
and
comfort
for
people
walking
and
biking.
I
would
like
to
see
one
that
says
improving
the
the
the
health
of
the
of
the
residents
that
that
are
impacted
by
heavy
traffic.
You
know,
because
we
have
some
the
streets
that
you're
talking
about
are
are
part
of
the
problem.
G
They're
also,
you
mentioned
other
ones
that
are
county
highways,
but,
and
you
know
you
can
just
sit
in
traffic
for
a
while
and
you're
breathing
the
prob.
You
know
breathing
a
lot
of
air
pollution,
but
in
addition
to
that,
it's
the
constant
you
know,
day
by
day
by
month
or
year
over
year,
exposure
to
this
heavy
traffic
that
we
know
is
related
to
some
of
the
very
serious
health
issues
in
in
this
part
of
of
phillips,
especially
in
east
phillips,
the
asthma,
the
cardiovascular
disease.
So
I
mean
people
die
from
that
too.
G
So
traffic
isn't
just
you
know
getting
hit
by
a
car.
It's
it's
receiving
the
exhaust
of
that
those
vehicles,
and
it's
not
just
cars.
It's
cars
and
trucks
and
the
public
works
vehicles
are
part
of
it.
I
was
so
surprised
last
year
to
discover
that
the
little
panel
truck
that
goes
out
to
look
at
meters
is
diesel.
G
You
know,
oh,
my
goodness,
it
was
parked
in
front
of
my
house,
and
I
talked
to
the
folks
there,
and
you
know
it
was
a
diesel
vehicle.
It
was
a
panel
truck,
it
doesn't
have
to
be,
and
so
anyway
I
mean
you
know
that
level
of
of
traffic
pollution
would
be
something
I
would
just
ask
you
mike
and-
and
somebody
maybe
take
that
back
and
say
that
we
want
to
think
about
more
than
just
getting
hit
by
the
vehicle.
G
F
Know
some
of
the
larger
goals
the
city
has
is
around
reducing
the
amount
of
traffic
in
the
city,
and
you
know
encouraging
people
to
use
transit
and
things
like
that.
But
I
know
it's
particularly
important
in
phillips
and
in
the
south
side
being
zoned.
So
thank
you
again.
D
D
D
And
once
you
are
in
the
chat,
I
would
like
you
to
put
the
code,
which
is
on
the
top
of
the
slide
as
well.
It's
2
9
8,
6,
3,
1,
3
3,
and
I
will
put
the
code
in
the
chat
as
well.
H
There
was
a
comment
too
from
mike
at
6
42.
I
don't
know
if
sometimes
it
might
help
to
show
it,
but
I
use
that
link
to
get
to
the
website.
H
F
Well,
it's
it
looks
like
I
mean.
I
think
this
is
mostly
meant
for
us
to
kind
of
prompt
discussion
and
looks
like
someone
was
able
to
to
add
some
some
comments.
So
I'm
just
curious
that
you
know
translation
is
definitely
important
for
us
and
we
do
have
some
some
staff
on
board
to
provide
printed
and
translated
materials.
F
I'm
curious
that
the
comment
on
history,
if
whoever
made
that
kind
of
wants
to
elaborate
in
terms
of
what
they
were
thinking
or
what
what
they'd
be
interested
in,
seeing
in
terms
of
how
to
incorporate
history
into
this,
this
project
engagement.
B
Hi,
that
was
me
so
for
us,
like,
as
like
the
south
side
green
zone,
we
really
do
try
to
honor,
like
the
traditions
of
community
members
that
have
resided
in
areas
to
really
acknowledge
and
recognize
the
native
american
community
and
also
being
able
to
recognize
the
elders
and
how
they
really,
you
know,
form
around
space,
how
they
mobilize
around
space
and
really
recognizing
the
importance
of
space.
So
what
is
the
history
of
that
built
environment?
What
can
we
envision
in
the
future?
Even
if
it's
just
a
bump?
B
B
The
few
you
know,
people's
histories
in
different
neighborhoods
and
being
able
to
recognize
that
I
think,
as
city
workers
is
essential
for
any
project
and
being
able
to
recognize
how
have
previous
projects
affected
a
community's
infrastructure,
its
development,
how
people
within
that
ecosystem
also
really
interact
with
that
space
as
well.
So
that's
why
I
said
history.
B
So
if
you
can
even
like
provide
a
historical
background
to
community
members
during
a
community
engagement
session
on
what
a
space
previously
looked
like
as
that
example,
you
had
provided
and
why
the
city
is
encouraging
these
new
changes
that
could
significantly
help.
I
think
residents
you
know
commuters,
whatever
it
may
be
in
the
area,
business
owners
alike,
to
understand
why
the
changes
are
being
recommended
and
why
community
input
is
necessary.
F
Thank
you
for
going
into
more
detail,
though.
That's
I
think
it's
really
helpful
for
us
to
hear,
and
I
see
there
are
a
few
more
things
put
in
I'm
sorry,
sylvia.
I
didn't
want
to
step
on
your
toes
here.
I
just
saw
that
and
and
wanted
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
so
I'll
pass
it
back
over
to
you.
D
You're
fine,
I
can
see
games
as
well.
I
don't
see
any
mode
about
my.
F
Oh
yeah,
it
looks
like
maybe
karen
is.
F
F
B
That
that
was
me
again.
I
had
added
a
couple
of
pieces,
so
I
said
games
because
for
a
lot
of
the
community
engagement
sessions
that
I
lead,
there
are
like
opportunities
for
community
members
to
have
games
and
whether
it's
like
cross
or
like,
like
cross
word,
puzzles
or
different
things
that
relate
to
just
the
engagement
activity
of
you
know.
Just
what
are
we
as
a
city
trying
to
collect
and
gather
information
if
there's
a
really
active
way
of
getting
people
to
participate
in
that?
B
B
There
might
be
other
activities
that
might
help
them
engage
further
with
the
conversation
so
having
games
or
different
activities
available
for
folks
to
provide
their
community
thoughts
and
just
their
opinions
on
what
is
being
proposed
might
be
helpful.
G
G
D
Were
you
saying
something
samara
so
who
said
something
cassandra?
That
was
me.
E
C
E
D
F
Yeah,
you
should
be
able
to
hopefully
use
the
same
same
link
that
you're
on
before
I'll.
Just
hopefully
update
on
your
on
your
phone
or
computer.
H
I
did
have
to
click
to
go
to
next
slide
at
the
top
of
my
page,
so
you
might
have
to.
There
was
a
little
button
that
says
go
to
next.
C
G
Since
I,
since
I
can't
write
in
here
myself,
I
would
say
I
know
that
you
mentioned
that
franklin
is
not
and
cedar
are
not
within
your
purview,
but
I
mean
I
guess
we
can
still
say
we
want
those
to
be
part
of
it
right
I
mean,
even
though
so
the
county
should
listen
to
us
on
that.
I
guess
at
their
county
boys,
cedar
and
frank
franklin
avenue
are
just.
G
So
difficult
especially
where,
where
they
intersect
with
the
freeway
entrances,
it's
very.
D
F
And
as
as
folks
are
just
answering
this
and
I'll
just
mention
sylvia,
and
I
are
also
planning
to
be
at
the
national
night
out
barbecue,
which
is
a
week
from
tomorrow,
I
believe
it's
at
cedar
field
park.
So
if
anyone
is
there,
hopefully
we'll
see
you
and
stop
by
and
meet
in
a
way.
That's
you
know
it's
safe
for
everyone,
but
yeah.
Hopefully
this
will
be
the
first
of
many
conversation.
D
Fine
thank
you
and
cedar
avenue
again
and
the
third
streets.
West
banks,
the
walking
light,
is
very
slow
to
change
and
cars
drive
fairly
fast
in
this
area.
B
Yeah,
that's
me,
I
went
to
the
humphrey
and
I
went
to
the
u
and
I
would
walk
from
the
cedar
riverside
neighborhood,
often,
and
no
one
stops
for
you
in
that
area,
like
you
are
fearing
for
your
life
all
the
time.
The
walking
flight
is
very
slow
and
very
short.
This
might
I
don't
know
if
this
is
outside
of
your,
like
both
of
your
geographies
to
manage,
but
if
there
could
be
an
opportunity
to
maybe
revisit
that
walk
area.
B
F
Yeah
I'll
I'll
just
say
yeah.
I
know
that
in
your
section
pretty
well
and
that's
not
not
very
comfortable
or
safe
for
areas.
You
know
if
we
get
other
comments
about
streets
that
are
outside
of
you
know
the
the
ones
that
we're
looking
at
we'll
just
we'll
take
those
back
to
folks
it
might,
it
might
just
mean,
there's
a
different
avenue
for
addressing
it,
but
you
know.
F
Certainly
we
can
definitely
receive
comments
about
other
streets,
even
though
we're
focusing
on
you
know
just
a
small
subset
and
I'm
curious,
I
think
casa,
you
were
saying
you
27th
and
cedar
was
a
priority
for
you.
Maybe
you
could
just
kind
of
share
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
don't
like
there
or
what
your
books.
What
you'd
like
to
see.
E
Well,
that's
one
of
first
it's
one
of
the
main
areas
that
we
have
a
lot
of.
Well,
that's
not
the
main,
because
26th
and
28th
are
but
cedars
like
with
the
big
trucks
traffic
and
that's
really
hard
to
see
around
the
cars
too.
There's
no
stop
sign.
E
There's
no
pedestrian,
walkway,
there's
nothing
there,
so
you
really
have
to
walk
a
block
down
either
end
to
be
able
to
cross
out
a
light
and
people
just
don't
slow
down
at
all
and
it's
scary,
because
people
are
always
trying
to
like
driving
like
try
to
get
across
or
go
left
or
to
make
that
left-hand
turn.
Even
a
right-hand
turn
is
hard
and
it's
like
super
always
busy
and
people
go
down
there
like
40
miles
an
hour.
C
F
Yeah,
that
was
that
was
an
intersection
when
we
were
walking
around
with
the
folks
on
saturday
that
a
lot
of
people
mention
as
well.
So
it
seems
to
be
one
to
to
hone
in
on,
even
if
it
is
a
county
street
to
kind
of
try
and
prioritize
with
with
some
of
our
colleagues
over
there.
E
Gracious
we
have,
we
have
so
many
kids
here
in
east
phillips,
you,
you
know
little
earth
alone,
there's
over
500
kids.
I
believe,
and
half
of
them
are
used
to
be-
I
think,
couple
years
ago,
under
the
age
of
those
at
five
or
something.
So
we
just
have
so
many
kids
on
the
cedar
street
and
they
don't
even
stop
for
our
light
here
at
little
earth.
I
watch
people
all
the
time
cut
through
that
I
wish
they
put
a
camera
on
there.
They
do
it
all
the
time.
E
Even
you
know,
with
adults
standing
there,
they'll
just
try
to
beat
the
lighter
they
act
like
they
don't
see
it
and
they
just
go
and
we've
had
a
couple.
Kids
hit
this
in
the
last
month.
It
wasn't
serious,
it
could
have
been.
So
I
really
wish
that
people
would
put
signs
up.
Like
you
run
this
red
light,
your
picture
will
be
taken
or
something
your
license.
Plate
will
be
taken.
B
Hey
cassandra
is
that
the
walkway
near
the
bridge,
like
the
the
bridge
that
connects
the
park
and
the.
E
Residents
it
connects.
It
connects
the
little
side
of
little
earth
to
the
bigger
side
of
little
earth.
B
Yes,
I
hate
that
intersection,
it's
probably
the
worst
yeah
with
the
lights
there,
it's
crazy.
No,
it's
so
disrespectful
as
well,
like
kids,
will
be
riding
their
bikes
or
someone.
You
know
who
has
a
stroller
and
like
people
will
literally
try
to
run
them
over,
and
sometimes
you
also
have
semi
trucks
who
will
be
trying
to
move
through
that
area.
135
is
closed.
Yep.
E
E
B
A
B
B
Is
it
26
like
when
you're
right
near
the
the
chicken
shop,
like
you
know
the
like
the
grocer
like
right
when
you're
going
to
take
like
let's
say
a
right
and
then
you're
trying
to
head
over
towards
like
if
you
want
to
head
towards
like
park
avenue
and
like
oh,
the
26th
there
when
you're
taking
it
also
a
problem
like
people,
never
stop
for
walkers.
E
You
know
on
24th
and
cedar
too,
because
you
have
people
coming
out
of
little
earth
and
if
they
have
to
go
straight
going
on
24th
people
who
are
coming
like,
I
guess
you
want
to
say
eastbound
on
26,
on
to
cedar
they're
gonna
take
that
left
with
no
regard
for
people
coming
out
of
little
earth
and
the
people
who
are
coming
off
the
bridge
to
cross
to
go
to
like
phillips
park
or
something
for
some
reason.
E
Cars
just
think
that
they
have
the
right
way
to
turn,
because
you
know
it's
left
or
right
on
cedar
when
you
get
on
24.,
so
they
feel
like
they
have
they
have
the
right-of-way
over
pedestrians
are
the
right-of-way
of
traffic.
Like
then,
you'll
see
it
pile
up.
E
There,
I've
seen
an
accident
in
my
own
eyes,
because
I
was
trying
to
get
through
and
a
lady
was
trying
to
back
up
to,
let
me
through
because
she
you
know
ran
you
know,
was
turned
and
even
though
she's
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
she
made
the
light.
So
when
she
was
trying
to
back
up
to,
let
me
out
she
couldn't
the
light
turned
green.
She
forgot
to
put
it
and
drive
and
reversed
and
hit
the
person
behind
her.
B
E
C
G
I
was
going
to
say
also
the
intersection
of
the
greenway
and
28th,
it's
very
dangerous,
they're,
bicyclists
and
folks
and
even
27th
in
cedar,
because
people
are
trying
to
skip
26th
and
24th,
and
so
they
turn
on
seven.
They
turn
on
27th
off
a
seater
and
it's
or,
if
you're,
on
27th
and
you're,
trying
to
try
to
turn
it.
It's
just
it's
difficult
for
anybody.
It's
difficult
for
the
cars,
it's
very
hard
for
the
pedestrians.
I
I
be
able
to
share
one
thing,
really
quick,
just
well
one.
I
do.
I
want
to
echo
the
27th
and
theater.
I
work
at
phillips
garden.
That's
spread
on
that
corner
and
I've
seen
so
many
so
many
clothes,
but
also
I
left
a
comment.
Maybe
maybe
y'all
have
already
addressed
this
too,
but
there's
that
part
of
26th
street
that
it's
a
two-way
and
then
it
turns
into
a
one-way
ride.
I
On
this
year
avenue
and
so
many
times,
I've
seen
people
in
what's
supposed
to
be
the
you
know
the
opposite
lane,
but
they
just
pull
up
on
the
left,
and
I
just
feel
like
that's
gonna
cause
yeah.
It
could
cause
a
lot
of
accidents.
B
When
that
quick
switch
happens,
because
it's
a
lot
of
people
who
may
not
even
be
familiar
with
like
minneapolis
roads
who
are
maybe
coming
from
the
suburbs
and
are
just
trying
to
like
get
to
local
businesses,
but
then
they
might
not
be
familiar
with
what
is
happening
and
then
they
get
really
irritated
and
then
they
want
to
fight
you.
So
like
it's
a
very
chaotic
experience,
especially
in
the
summertime.
B
When
so
many
people
want
to
drive
right,
like
you
see
less
cars
in
the
winter
but
yeah
it's
it's
very
chaotic.
E
F
You
know,
I,
I
think
we're
certainly
looking
for
ways
to
reduce
definitely
like
what
we
call
cut
through
traffic,
which
is
people
just
traveling
through
the
neighborhood
who
don't
live
there,
who
don't
work
there
who
are
like
just
passing
through.
You
know
these
are
their
streets
in
a
neighborhood,
their
residential
streets.
So
I
think
a
big
part
of
what
we're
hoping
to
do
with
this
project
is
to
you
know,
get
those
people
to
be.
You
know
on
94
on,
you
know
some
of
the
busier
streets.
F
You
know
on
lake
street
or
something
like
that
and
I'll
just
I.
I
can't
remember
now
who
mentioned
it,
but
with
the
the
two
way
to
one-way
issues.
That
was
another
thing
we
heard
on
our
walk
at
you
know,
26
and
cedar
that
that's
a
spot
where
people
are
oftentimes
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
street,
either
purposefully
or
just
because
they're
they
don't
realize.
What's
going
on.
A
Yeah
I
want
to
also
jump
in
and
highlight
something
that
I
heard
people
say,
and
I
can't
remember
who
it
was
but
like,
especially
with,
like
all
of
the
construction
happening
on
35
and
other
of
those
more
intentional
through
fares.
You
know
you
know
traffic
just
increased
so
much
on
cedar,
in
particular
as
a
north
south.
A
So
I
don't
know
in
conversations
with
the
minnesota
department
of
transportation
or
like
how
much
sway
the
city
has
in
determining
like
where
cars
are
rerouted
or
discouraged
from
routing
to,
and
I
know,
there's
only
so
much
you
can
do
with
signage,
but
just
with
like
the
the
design
of
the
street,
I
know
has
a
lot.
It
has
so
much
more
to
do
with
how
people
drive
yeah.
F
Yeah
yeah
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
the
construction
on
35
is
supposed
to
be
ending
this
year.
So
hopefully
that
will
give
us
some
temporary
relief,
but
yeah
charging
people,
especially
people
who
don't
live
in
the
city
or
in
the
neighborhood,
is,
is
something
that
we
want
to
do,
and
maybe
this
project
will
be
an
opportunity
to
to
try
that
out.
D
F
F
It
looks
like
we're
getting
a
few
results:
real
ways
to
get
cars
to
slow
down
more
bikes
and
lockers
oops,
like
don't
accidentally
share
their
screen
here.
I'm
just
gonna
share
mine
back,
so
folks
can
see
it
again.
F
Project
goals
and
results
that
reflect
community
need
and
solution:
local
buses.
It
takes
community
members
around
the
area
with
special
lanes,
so
I'm
curious
on
the
those
last
two.
I
think
the
first
two
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
straightforward,
but
in
terms
of
project
goals
that
reflect
community
needs
and
solutions.
You
know
karen
already
mentioned
some
of
the
goals
around.
F
F
Okay,
well
I'll
also
just
say
that.
Well,
you
know
the
nice
thing
about
this
activity.
Is
we
record
everything
that
people
have
entered
and
we'll
share
it
back
with
y'all,
and
if
there
are
other
goals
or
other
like
big
picture
things
that
we
need
to
consider,
please
don't
hesitate
to
share
them
with
us.
F
And
anything
else
here
that
that
folks
want
to
elaborate
on,
or
any
questions
of
you
know
things
that
have
been
submitted
by
by
your
fellow
members
that
you
want
to
learn
more
about.
A
I
have
a
question
for
some
of
the
members
on
the
call,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
like
cassie
or
megan
or
others.
I
know
over
the
last
several
months
since
the
uprisings.
There
have
been
some
sort
of
guerrilla
traffic
calming
measures
and
I'm
wondering
if
you've
noticed
any
improvements
with
those
going
in
and
if
you
see
those
as
longer
term
strategies
for
kind
of
those
more
internal
residential
areas
and
whether
you
think
those
could
be
strategies
that
could
be
expanded
to
other
streets.
H
But
yeah
they
definitely
slowed
traffic
down
for
sure
yeah.
I
I
think
when
we
were
talking
a
little
bit
about
26
to
before,
I
think
it
has
been
really
a
challenge.
I
think,
for
us
to
get
used
to
the
one
ways
on
18th
and
17th
and
16th
and
people
going
the
wrong
way
and
so
yeah
like
I
I
want.
I
want
bump
outs
on
all
of
them.
I
want
a
mid
street
bump
up
but
yeah.
I
I
think
we
we
need
real
ways
for
people
to
slow
down
regardless.
H
I
I
I
do
struggle
a
lot
with
the
speed
of
things.
So
I
think
speed
bumps
or
other
traffic
calming
is
really
really
necessary
for
sure
because
yeah
it
they
certainly
made
a
difference
in
slowing
people
down.
So
it
was
really
too
bad
to
see
them
taken
away.
E
So
are
you
talking
about
so
I
still
see
some
of
the
stuff
up
like
the
one
ways
they
have
the
cement
right
in
the
corner
of
some
of
them.
For
me,
are
you
talking
about
more
like
the
18th,
when
we
blocked
our
own
streets
off
up
here
in
little
earth
and
then
the
community
blocked
their
own
off?
That
was
helpful
because
people
were
trying
to
get
away
and
they
had
to
stop
and
back
up
so
they
stopped
using
that
street.
But
I
thought
you
meant
with.
E
I
don't
see
a
lot.
I
don't
see
as
much
of
it
anymore,
but
I
see
people
who
drive
more
aggressively
lately.
They
don't
really
abide
by
the
laws.
They
don't
abide
by
moral
obligation
to
be
a
a
community
member
when
it
comes
to
the
safety
of
our
children,
because
I
see
them
flying
down
these
streets
with
no
license
plates
driving.
However,
they
want
running
red
lights.
I've
seen
that,
like
people
running
red
lights
all
around
me
and
I'm
the
only
car
sitting
there
waiting
at
the
light
even
over
north
side.
E
So,
but
I
see
it
here
in
minneapolis
too
and
like
there's,
people
like
I'll
sit
in
front
of
them
on
18th.
When
I
come
into
little
earth,
it's
a
one
way
when
you
turn
on
26th
onto
18th
and
down
the
little
down
that
stretch
there
from
24th
to
25th
and
people
will
drive
down
the
one
way
and
I'll
just
sit
there
until
they
turn
around.
E
Because
there's
our
kids
only
look
one
way,
because
they
know
it's
a
one
way
and
they're
not
looking
the
other
direction,
and
then
we
have
three
parks,
one
on
24th
in
you
know
we
have
phillips,
we
have
cedar
field,
and
then
we
have
the
baby
space
park
right.
There
and
kids
run
running
across
the
streets
to
get
to
them,
but
I've
seen
lately
like
people
just
no
license
plate
running
red
lights,
driving
reckless,
just
not
giving
a
crap
about
anything.
H
And
I
think
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
earlier
cassie
around
the
like
someone
will
stop
for
someone
to
cross
the
street
and
because
it's
a
one-way
and
you
can
kind
of
get
around
people
that
they
think
they
can
just
go
yeah.
Oh
when
you
said
that
I
was
like
oh
yeah,
I
can
totally
see
that
happening,
so
it's
very
yeah.
E
The
car
behind
me
couldn't
see
that
kid,
so
I
was
like
really
we
were
like.
I
was
honking
and
screaming
like
stop.
Oh
my
god.
What
are
you
doing
this
kid?
Is
you
know
they
finally
stopped,
but
it
could
have
been
late.
If
I
didn't,
you
know,
if
other
people
were
reacting
too,
that
was
scary.
That
kid
could
have
got
hit.
G
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I
was
kicked
off
there
for
a
while,
so
I
got
back
in
again.
I
don't
know
what
happened.
So
if
it's
answering
the
question,
what
does
success?
Look
like
for
this
project?
Is
that
right?
What
we're
talking
about?
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
an
expanded
goal
that
I
wanted.
So
then
one
of
the
things
that
success
would
look
like
would
be
cleaner
air,
less
air
pollution.
C
F
D
E
C
I
M
Hi,
my
name
is
jeff
hedman,
I'm
with
the
minnesota
pollution
control
agency,
I'm
a
permanent
engineer
again
for
the
pollution
agency,
tasked
with
looking
at
the
details
for
the
application
materials
that
have
been
submitted
for
this
particular
project.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
get
my
presentation
up.
M
M
All
right
how
we
doing
anything.
M
So
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
today
is
a
proposed
project
still
in
the
draft
stages
for
aber
northwestern
hospital.
Abbott
northwestern
has
a
utility
plant
at
their
existing
site
and
they
have
an
array
of
boilers
and
emergency
engine
sets
and
they're
they're
coming
on
age,
they're
they're
getting
pretty
old.
M
Some
of
them
were
built
in,
I
believe
the
50s,
and
so
they
reached
their
end
of
useful
life
and
abbott
would
like
to
replace
them,
and
so
one
of
the
ways
that
they
are
contemplating
replacing
them
is
through
the
removal
of
some
of
these
older
units.
Again,
as
you
can
see
on
the
slide
here,
there's
about
eight
older
units
and
nine
older
emergency
engine
generator
sets
and
they're.
M
They
would
like
to
add
two
larger
boilers,
so
fewer
number
but
larger
in
size
and
a
turbine
with
a
heat
recovery
steam
generator,
which
is
a
heat
recovery.
Steam
generator,
is
a
device
that
is
it's
sort
of
like
an
add-on
device.
If
you
will
for
the
turbine
that
can
be
used
to
get
extra
energy
extra,
useful
work
out
of
the
gas
that
you
that
exits,
the
turbine,
in
addition
to
those
items,
they've
also
got
a
few
new
emergency
energy.
M
Excuse
me:
emergency
engine
generator
sets
that
they'd
like
to
add
as
well
somewhat
similar
story
to
the
boilers.
They're
they're,
proposing
fewer
in
number
than
what
they
originally
had,
but
generally
larger
in
size
and
a
cooling
tower
to
support
the
turbine
as
well,
and
for
this
proposed
project,
there's
a
period
of
overlap
where
they
have
both
some
of
their
new
units
and
some
of
their
older
units
operating
under
a
similar
time
frame.
Because,
again,
the
needs
of
a
hospital
are
24
7.
M
They
need
to
supply
both
heat
and
power
to
their
their
various
buildings
continuously,
and
so
they
need
to
ensure
they've
got
a
successful,
smooth
transition
from
their
older
units
to
their
newer
units,
while
still
having
both
heat
and
power.
M
So,
there's
just
a
snapshot
of
the
current
facility
with
their
stack
the
main
stack
that
they
use
again
roughly
26
in
chicago
give
or
take,
and
this
is
their
proposed
facility
again
roughly
the
same
street
corner.
You
can
see
that
stack
kind
of
in
the
background,
back
rear
right
and
then
towards
that
white.
One
towards
the
the
center
of
the
screen
would
be
one
of
their
new
ones.
M
M
The
main
pollutants
or
excuse
me,
fuels
that
this
particular
project
would
utilize,
are
natural
gas
and,
in
the
event
that
natural
gas
gets
curtailed,
meaning
it's
it's
restricted
from
the
facility
for
some
reason
like.
If
there's
a
cold
snap
or
a
pipe
break,
they
still
would
have
the
need
to
to
supply
heat
and
power
to
their
facilities.
So
they
have
a
backup
fuel
which
is
number
two
fuel
oil
which
they
currently
have
and
use
both
of
today.
M
Essentially,
they
can
use
fuel
oil
on
demand
as
they
as
they
need,
but
one
of
their
future
proposed
restrictions
is
to
switch
that
to
use
only
oil
in
the
the
case
of
a
curtailment
situation,
so
not
just
any
time
of
the
year,
but
when
their
primary
gas,
the
natural
gas
is
curtailed
without
further
ado,
this
particular
slide
again
a
little
bit
busy
tries
to
describe
some
of
the
changes
that
that
are
proposed
here,
relative
to
what
abbott
actually
emits
over
the
past
few
years.
So
this
slide
pertains
to
one
particular
pollutant.
M
The
graph
along
the
left
hand
side
goes
from
0
at
the
bottom,
all
the
way
to
100
at
the
top
100
being
an
important
number
for
us
in
permitting,
and
that
meaning
that,
for
the
particular
kind
of
permit
that
this
facility
has
no
facility
could
emit
more
than
100
tons
again.
This
particular
facility
has,
what's
known
as
a
state
operating
permit,
so
again
could
not
ever
emit
more
than
100
tons
not
allowed.
M
This
particular
facility
as
it
stands
today,
abbott's
potential
emissions
and
again
I'll
describe
what
potential
means
is
that
we
we
would
consider
the
operation
of
all
equipment,
all
boilers,
all
engines
operating
at
the
same
time,
which
is
not
a
realistic
scenario
but
is
still
the
ruler.
If
you
will
that
the
mpca
uses
to
measure
different
facilities,
what
the
maximum
allowable
emissions
would
be-
and
those
are
tabulated
together
for
the
entire
facility
and
represented
with
a
number
in
this
case,
happens
to
be
91.64
again.
That's
the
current
facility
as
permitted
today.
M
That's
the
blue
bar
on
the
far
left.
The
lighter
blue
bar
next
to
it
represents
that
that
transition
period
that
might
happen
in
the
future.
Should
they
go
ahead
and
do
this
particular
project
you'll
notice,
it's
a
slightly
lower
bar
this
number
again
takes
into
account
the
maximum
allowable
emissions
from
all
the
equipment.
As
you
may
recall,
I
mentioned
they're
going
to
have
a
transition
period
where
they'll
burn.
Both
excuse
me
use
both
old
and
new
equipment,
and
you
might
think
well.
That
would
result
in
a
greater.
M
In
this
case,
for
the
purposes
of
the
transition
period,
abbott
has
proposed
some
caps
to
constrain
those
emissions
for
the
purpose
of
the
transition
itself
and
they
set
the
value
of
those
caps
at
the
final
state
or
what
they
believe
their
final
state
might
be.
Should
they
actually
construct
these
new
units
that
I
mentioned
a
few
moments
ago
at
the
same
value
again
89.87,
so
slightly
less
than
what
they're
currently
maximum
per
minute
and
I'll
touch
a
little
bit
later
on
how
we
might
actually
see
a
drop
in
actual
emissions.
M
The
next
five
bars
that
I've
listed
are
a
tabulation
of
the
actual
emissions
from
abbott
over
the
past
five
years.
That
sort
of
brown
reddish
bar
representing
the
year
2015
again
at
roughly
18
tons.
Proceeding
to
the
right
is
the
next
year,
2016
slightly
less
at
seven
that
again
proceeding
in
time
to
19,
19
and
18.,
and
I
put
these
pieces
of
information
on
the
slide
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
fact
that
historically,
their
actual
emissions
have
been
relatively
steady
and
they're,
much
less
than
their
maximum
allowables.
M
Again
being
that
this
is
a
hospital
and
they
have
backup
fuels
those
worst
case
scenarios,
if
you
will
are
tabulated
into
that
potential
emission
number,
or
rather
those
higher
bars
on
the
left-hand
side
and
with
this
proposed
project
abbott
believes
that
their
campus
will
have
the
same
steam
and
heating
demands,
as
they
do
today.
They'll
just
power
them
with
newer
equipment.
M
So
for
that
reason
they
believe
their
actual
fuel
usage
will
remain
relatively
steady
and,
as
I'll
show
you
in
a
couple
of
slides,
one
of
the
benefits
of
the
will
be
an
emission
reduction
for
this
particular
pollutant
knox
and
I'll
show
that,
through
a
somewhat
messy
slide
that
has
to
do
with
the
emission
factors
but
I'll
try
to
walk
you
through
that
one
too.
So
this
again
particular
slide
is
about
one
pollutant
called
nitrogen
oxides
can
advance
it's
a
very
similar
looking
slide
for
a
different
pollutant.
M
This
one
called
pm
2.5
and
the
the
the
y-axis
on
the
left-hand
side
goes
from
the
same
range
0
to
100,
again
100
selected,
because
that's
the
most
that
could
ever
be
emitted
by
a
facility
that
has
this
kind
of
permit
in
abbott's
case.
Their
current
potential
emissions
on
the
far
left
are
roughly
a
little
over
five
tons,
five
and
a
quarter
tons
for
the
purposes
of
the
transition
period.
M
That
will
increase
some
well
increase
to
15
15.16,
again,
roughly
10
tons,
and
once
they
have
produced
their
facility
should
they
actually
go
forward
with
and
receive
permission
to
do
so.
M
M
Instances
0.3
for
the
first
year
again
identified
as
2015,
then
0.3
again
for
2016
and
proceeding
in
time
very
similar
values.
Again
I
identified
these
particular
values
because
I
want
to
point
out
that
their
historical
lows
or
excuse
me,
historical
emissions
have
been
low
relative
to
their
potential
emissions
and
again,
they
believe
their
steam
demands
and
needs
for
the
facility
will
be
pretty
similar,
so
they're
expecting
to
use
a
similar
amount
of
fuel
going
forward.
M
M
Our
computer
dispersion
model
considered
the
effects
of
abbott's
project
at
that
time,
along
with
the
nearby
sources
at
that
time,
and
the
background
concentration
at
that
time
and
those
values
tabulated
together,
were
roughly
86
percent
of
an
ambient
standard
which
is
considered
compliance
in
the
air
permitting
world.
M
The
green
bar
next
to
it
again
represents
some
similar
ideas.
There,
the
contribution
from
abbott
as
it
would
be
proposed
the
nearby
sources
that
are
near
again
near
abbott,
and
today's
background
concentration
and
those
values
together,
tabulate
to
roughly
a
very
similar
value,
but
an
increase
at
87
again
suggesting
compliance
with
the
ambient
air
standard
for
nitrogen
oxides.
M
The
the
next
set
the
adjacent
set
is
for
pm
2.5.
I
again
showed
some
pm
2.5
numbers
in
the
previous
graph.
The
blue
bar
for
pm.
2.5
was
tabulated
again
in
the
prior
project
that
was
done
in
2013
and
again.
Abbott's
contribution
was
considered
along
with
nearby
sources
and
background
at
that
time,
and
that
time
it
came
fairly
close
to
the
ambient
standard,
but
still
considered
compliance
at
97
percent.
M
The
proposed
project-
that's
in
front
of
us
today
and
we're
still
considering,
has
a
lesser
value
of
78,
there's
a
larger
margin
margin
of
compliance
with
the
amping
air
standard
from
the
proposed
project
nearby
sources
as
they
exist
today,
and
the
background
concentration
as
they
exist
today.
M
So
this
is
kind
of
that
difficult
to
understand,
slide
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
which
is
describes
in
some
kind
of
nuance.
Why?
I
think
there
actually
be
some
emission
reductions
on
a
day-to-day
basis
for
one
of
the
risk
drivers,
or
rather
for
the
risk
driver
for
this
particular
facility.
I'll
draw
your
attention
first
of
the
column
headings.
What
this
is
is
a
set
of
what
are
known
as
emission
factors.
M
The
existing
boiler's
emission
factor
is
actually
less
it's
a
different
story,
though,
for
the
pollutant,
nox,
which
is
the
third
row
from
the
top
I
explicitly
knocks
on
using
gas
natural
gas
in
this
instance.
The
old
emission.
Excuse
me,
the
emission
factor
for
the
boilers
that
are
on
site
today
is
a
much
greater
value
than
the
proposed
boiler's
emission
factor.
It's
roughly
two
and
a
half
times
bigger
than
the
proposed
boilers
are.
C
M
Phrased
another
way,
the
proposed
boilers
are
a
third
of
the
current
emissions,
so
another
way
to
state.
This
idea
is
that
for
any
gallon
or
certain
amount,
specific
amount
of
fuel
that
you
put
into
today's
boilers,
you're
going
to
get
out
roughly
two
and
a
half
times
more
pollution
than
the
proposed
boilers,
so
the
proposed
ones
being
much
cleaner
for
this
particular
pollutant
knocks
and
if
we
also
believe
that
abbott's
heating
needs
are
going
to
be
remain
pretty
consistent
from
the
current
state
to
the
future
state.
M
That
would
leave
lead
us
to
believe
that
the
emissions
of
nox
will
go
down
again.
If
you
put
the
same
amount
of
heat
into
the
newer
boiler,
rather
proposed
boiler
in
comparison
to
the
existing
boilers,
you're
going
to
get
a
lot
less
knocks
and
for
this
particular
facility
and
area
nitrogen
oxides
is
the
risk
driver
it's
one
of
the
pollutants.
M
M
The
existing
facility
was
analyzed
in
2013,
was
shown
to
be
below
ambient
standards
and
below
the
health
risk
guidance
levels
and
based
on
the
application
materials
we
have
today.
We
believe
the
same
will
be
true
again.
K
M
M
I'd
like
to
talk
about
process
just
a
little
bit,
we're
kind
of
well
I've
drawn
a
small
map
here
to
describe
how
this
process
is
set
up.
We're
kind
of
at
the
far
left
hand
side
where
we're
looking
at
the
cumulative
levels
and
effects
analysis
we're
looking
at
permit
conditions
that
have
been
proposed
in
the
permanent
application
materials
and
we're
doing
some
informal
outreach.
So
we're
going
to
various
communities
where
we
have
been
we've
done
a
little
particular.
If
you
will
like.
M
M
We've
also
held
some
office
hours
where
we've
had
just
a
standing
amount
of
time
where
folks
could
come
and
ask
questions
and
we've
got
a
web
page
built
at
the
moment
that
has
the
application
materials
for
the
project
that
we
received.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
look
at
those
today,
you
most
certainly
can
in
fact
I'll
share
a
link
with
you.
C
M
M
Here's
a
set
of
tools
and
some
information
that
you
can
review
at
your
leisure.
We
again
have
a
website
dedicated
to
this
particular
project
available
at
either
of
these
links
and
again
I'll
drop
these
in
chat.
Just
after
the
presentation
and
there's
a
gov
delivery
address
that
you
can
sign
up
to
for
and
get
updates
about,
the
particular
project
you
can
email.
K
C
M
C
C
G
Yes,
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
I
think
I
understand
what
you're
saying
here
and-
and
I
guess
one
of
the
things
to
know
is
that
this
project
is
governed
by
the
state
law
passed
in
2008.
That
says
that
you
have
to
measure
the
cumulative
health
impact
analysis
in
order
to
come
up
with.
What's
allowed
right.
M
It
it
is
certainly
governed
by
that
statute.
You
mentioned
the
the
document
may
be
referring
to
is
the
cumulative
levels
and
effects
or
cle
portion
of
the
analysis
that
does
consider
health
impacts
from
toxics
and
cumulative
effects
of
the
the
contributors
from
the
the
area
at
large.
There's
some
links
to
reference
documents
and
describe
kind
of
more
what
that's
about
on
that
website
that
I
mentioned
again
happy
to
drop
those
links
and
chat.
But
yes,
please.
G
And
if
I
understood
it
right
the
switch
to
the
different
facilities,
it
looks
like
the
big
building
you're
constructing
to
do
that.
G
They're
proposing
that
they're
constructing
yeah,
if
I
understand
the
the
2.5
particulates
will
get
worse,
but
the
knocks
will
get
better
is.
G
Yeah-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
said
is
they
might
need
to
use
this,
you
call
it
low-grade
petroleum
or
something
are
you
talking
about
diesel.
C
G
Network
fuel
oil,
why
don't
we
just
call
it
diesel?
Since
that's
what
it
is?
I
I
I've
never
heard
it
called
low
grade
whatever
before
usually
and
in
the
past.
I
know
when
evan
was
working
on
this
in
the
past
they
talked
about
getting
a
better
grade
of
diesel
and
I
think
that's
some
of
what
you're
talking
about
well,
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
know
that.
G
It's
that
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
more
particular
matter
2.5
with
this
proposal,
even
though
the
knocks
will
get
better,
we
are
going
to
have.
Our
residents
are
going
to
suffer
from
more
exposure
to
pm
2.5,
and
is
there
no
way
to
to
change
that
to
eliminate
that
to
you
know
to
make
it
be
better.
M
So
I
we've
pushed
the
facility
a
bit
on
that.
The
numbers
that
they've
got
at
the
moment
surprised
us
a
little
bit
that
there
was
an
increase.
They
indicated
that
was
the
lowest
value
that
they
could
get
as
a
manufacturer's
guarantee
for
that
particular
set
of
boilers.
G
I
want
to
just
say:
can't
they
try
harder,
I
mean,
maybe
they
have
to
spend
more
money.
It's
just
you
know
this
is,
I
think,
abbott
is,
is
trying
to
do
something
good,
but
it
is
not
good
news
for
us
to
hear
that
there's
going
to
be
more
particulates
in
the
air
as
a
result
of
this,
you
know,
you
know
those
particulates,
those
little
2.5.
They
go
deep
into
our
lungs,
you
know
and
the
lungs
of
the
people
who
are
right
there
and
live
nearby,
and
actually
I
don't
know
where
the
plume
from
that
lands.
M
We
certainly
have
maps
they're,
sometimes
called
contour
maps.
You
can
think
of
them
as
heat
maps,
to
say
any
one
specific
area,
it's
more
of
a
dispersion
but
yeah.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
pull
some
up
if
you'll
indulge
me
for
a
moment.
G
Do
other
folks
know
what
I'm
talking
about
I'm
not
talking
about
when
you
send
the
stuff
up
the
up
the
big
chimney,
then
it
comes
down
somewhere
and
where
it
comes
down
is,
is
on
residence.
Obviously-
and
this
is
I
just
want
to
know
if
that
has
been
part
of
the
analysis
by
the
pollution
control
agency,
did
you
look
at
that
and
if
you
didn't,
I
think
you
need
to.
G
M
Let
me
see
if
I
can
pull
it
up
again,
let's
see
and
then
I
think
I
need
to
share
again
sorry
too
many
buttons.
M
This
should
be
a
slide
that
I
showed
earlier,
so
I
I
don't
think
I
explicitly
mentioned
it
when
I
was
talking
about
this
slide,
but
these
values
either
87
86
87
for
the
one
hour
knox
and
then
the
97
versus
78.
M
M
So
I
know
it's
not
the
map
that
you
had
initially
asked
for,
and
I
can
certainly
dig
for
that
again.
If
you'll
indulge
me
for
a
few
moments.
G
H
Can
I
say
a
quick
question
about
that,
though,
is
that
that's
based
on
the
potential
to
emit
that.
M
C
A
M
So
I
think
your
second
question
first
is
pertinent
for
this
particular
slide,
so
the
expected
or
maximum
allowable
one-hour
knocks
emissions
are
similar,
but
going
up
slightly
and
again
it's
a
contribution,
not
just
from
abbott's
project,
but
it's
these
other
components
as
well,
and
they
are
all
measured
against
or
excuse
me
contributing
to
this
single
number.
So
again,
we
weigh
the
background
of
your
local
area,
along
with
those
sources
that
contribute
in
your
local
area,
in
addition
to
abbott's
contributions
and
those
all
move
somewhat
independently
of
each
other.
M
The
background
values
are
informed
by
monitored
values,
in
particular
for
pm.
2.5,
there's
a
monitor
just
to
the
east
of
abbott
at
the
school,
the
anderson
school
and
the
one
hour
knox
values
are
informed
by
the
near
road
monitor,
which
is
a
little
over
a
mile.
I
believe
to
your
north,
which
picks
up
a
lot
of
data
from
the
interstate
traffic.
M
So
the
the
short
version
or
excuse
me,
the
short
take
away
from
that-
is
that
there
are
multiple
pieces
informing
this
particular
number
avid's
contribution
being
just
part
of
it.
And
I'm
sorry,
if
you
could
restate
your
first
question
or
if
that
wasn't
sufficient
for
your
second.
Oh
I'm
happy
to.
M
Yeah,
some
of
this
information
is
discussed
cle
report.
Let
me
pull
it
up
real,
quick.
C
M
Roughly
13
abbott
went
through
this
same
process
a
number
of
years
ago
to
a
2012
2013
era,
and
so
again
do
you
have
a?
Is
there
a
visual
up
at
the
moment.
M
M
This
is
a
a
table
of
data
from
our
monitors
and
one
monitor
in
particular,
I
should
say,
monitor
963,
which
happens
to
be
the
one.
That's
right
next
to
abbot
at
the
school,
and
I'm
going
to
scroll
down
a
bit.
But
what's
good
to
know
is
the
center
column
represents
a
three-year
average
of
the
the
the
daily
impacts,
also
known
as
the
24
hour
standard.
M
The
next
column
over
represents
an
average
of
the
daily
impacts,
also
known
as
the
annual
standard
scroll
down
a
bit,
bring
it
to
a
rose
representing
the
again
the
era
that
was
last
or
this
kind
of
work
was
last
devalued.
It
was
kind
of
right
here.
What
I'm
showing
is
the
middle
background
at
that
time
was
much
higher,
was
about
30
micrograms
per
cubic
meter
roughly
and
towards
the
bottom
of
this
table
represents
what
background
is
roughly
today,
2016
to
2018
time
period
and
it's
10
micrograms.
C
A
Okay
and
yeah,
so
this
data
only
goes
through
2018.
I
know
that
there
is
a
lag
in
a
lot
of
our
our
state
data
for,
for
a
variety
of
reasons,.
A
I
know
last
summer
we
had
a
presentation
from
the
pollution
control
agency
on
air
pollutants
and
covid
and
based
on
the
the
pm
monitor
on
anderson.
There
was
actually
a
spike
in
particulate
matter
in
phillips,
and
so
just
wondering,
like
I'm
just
particularly
concerned
that,
if
there's
going
to
be
an
increase
in
pm
and
we're
already
seeing
spikes
that
are
like
unaccounted
for,
we
don't
know,
or
we
haven't
been
told,
necessarily
what
count.
What
caused
that
spike
that
it's.
M
A
I
know
carrie
was
part
of
the
presentation,
several
different
people-
okay
from
pca,
working
on
it
and
the
state
health
department-
and
I
want
to
say
it
was
maybe
around
june.
It
was
not
during
the
uprisings
but
like
significantly
enough
after
them,
that
it
wasn't
the
uprisings
themselves
that
caused
the
spike.
M
M
H
Can
I
can
I
just
jump
in
a
little
bit.
I
I
work
also
for
the
pca,
but
on
non-point
air,
and
at
least
I've
talked
to
some
other
folks,
and
we
are
thinking
it
might
be
from
backyard
fighters.
We
know
a
lot
of
people
had
a
lot
of
fires
in
that
point
in
that
chunk
of
time
and
so
which,
which
is
a
very
real
thing
and
has
been
a
huge
thing
in
the
pandemic
as
well
so
but
hi.
H
Monica
too
I
just
I
didn't
want
to
bring
you
in,
but
I
I,
if
you
have
any
more
information
on
that
too.
I
know
we,
my
co-workers
and
I
have
talked
about
it
a
little
bit
as
as
that
is
potentially
one
of
the
sources
of
that.
G
Can
I
just
say
something:
this
is
parent?
Can
you
hear
me.
G
Okay,
yeah,
it
was
presented
to
the
minute
to
the
minneapolis
city
council
by
the
minnesota
department
of
health
at
one
point,
and
they
actually
gave
numbers
to
it,
and
I
don't
have
them
in
my
head
right
now.
But
I
remember
the
the
overall
story
is
that
throughout
the
city
of
minneapolis
there
was
a
reduction
of
20,
some
percent
in
the
in
the
air
pollution
index
and
then
in,
but
in
east
phillips
at
least
it
went
up
and
we
have,
I
don't
know.
G
I
haven't
heard
of
the
thing
about
the
backyard
fairs
before
we.
We
have
two
that
could
be,
but
we
have
two
major
polluting
industries,
as
you
know,
right
right
there
on
on
28th
street,
the
foundry
smith,
foundry
and
the
botunis
roadways
and
just
a
comment.
I
mean
it's
interesting
that
abbott
northwestern
is
going
through
this
and
you
know
they're
trying
to
comply
with
the
requirements
of
the
law
and
they're
coming
up
with
the
numbers
and
so
on.
G
The
per
you
know
so
that
they
can
have
a
new
permit,
and
I
I
do
trust
that
they're
trying
to
you,
know
they're
trying
to
see
if
they
can
do
better.
But
you
know
the
mpca
has
allowed
the
two
industries.
I
just
mentioned
smith
foundry
and
batuma's
roadways
to
operate
more
than
20
years
without
an
updated
permit.
What
in
the
heck?
G
Why
does
the
hospital
you
know
they're
able
to
to
comply?
And
you
guys
are
by
you
guys?
I
don't
mean
you
personally,
I
just
mean
mpca
is
able
to
get
them
to
to
go
through
this
process,
which
is
required
by
the
state
law,
and
it's
not
happening
these
other
two
polluting
industries,
and
I
don't
know
what
they
were
doing.
G
You
know
in
the
summer
what
I
know
this
isn't
exactly
the
reason
why
you're
here,
but
you
know
it's
all
connected,
we
breathe
the
air,
the
air
doesn't
just
stop
at
you
know
cedar
or
you
know,
24th
or
you
know,
what's
what's
being
measured
at
at
anderson,
school
and
what's
being
measured
at
the
interstate,
the
junction
of
interstate
35
and
94.,
I
mean
that
air
doesn't
just
stay
there,
it
moves,
and
so
I'm
just
can
you
say
anything
about
this.
G
C
M
A
licensed
engineer,
a
pe
with
the
state,
it's
my
understanding
that
for
abbott's
particular
project
in
a
way
it
might
be
appearing
different.
If
nothing
else
is
that
in
order
to
do
these
this
project
that
they
want
to
do
they're
obligated
to
go
through
it,
because
they
need
a
new
permit,
a
new
kind
of
permit,
they
need
to
amend
their
current
permit.
I
should
say
yes
and
with
smith
and
or
bituminous,
it's
unclear
to
me
if
those
facilities
are
actually
proposing
something
new.
M
M
If
you're
interested
in
some
kind
of
update
about
those
two,
I
could
connect
her
with
you
for
to
let
to
let
you
know
what
the
latest
and
greatest
is
on
those
particular
projects.
But
I
we
we
work
somewhat
independently
of
each
other,
we're
tasked
with
different
projects,
and
so
I
I
can't
say
I
know
the
latest
and
greatest
on
those,
but
I
certainly
would
happy
to
connect
you
if
that
would
help.
G
G
G
M
Are
familiar
with
her,
but
I
I
just
casually
mentioned
cassandra
and
I
know
there's
another
person
named
cassandra
in
the
same
meeting.
Sorry
about
that.
But
no
I,
when
I
said
cassandra
I
was
referring
to
cassandra
meyer,
my
colleague,
an
engineer
with
the
minnesota
pollution
control
agency
in
the
air
quality
permit
program.
A
G
When,
when
you,
you
say
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
when
they
get
the
numbers
together
more,
I
guess
what
is
a
time
frame.
I
mean
the
public
discussion
or
public
hearing
and
then
and
then
how
long
after
that,
can
they
go
ahead
with
the
their
plans,
so
they
should
choose
to
do
that.
M
Sure
so
we're
taking
a
pretty
close
look
at
their
application
materials
and
things
are
starting
to
come
together.
Once
we
feel
we've
got
a
draft
permit,
that's
defensible,
we
would
put
it
out
on
public
notice.
I
think,
as
suggested
earlier.
M
I
wouldn't
expect
that
to
happen
before
september,
so
we're
coming
up
on
it,
but
we're
not
there
yet
with
a
comment
period
to
kick
off
with
a
public
meeting
inside
of
that
comment
period
again
the
comment
period
being
expected
to
be
45
days
in
length
and
once
that
closes,
we
would
then
take
in
the
comments
that
we
had
received
and
assess
what
kind
of
permit
changes
are
necessary
at
that
time,
and
then
leadership
would
make
a
permitting
decision.
Staff
generally
don't
make
those.
M
A
decision
for
routine
permits
it's
usually
a
week
or
two,
depending
on
the
amount
and
type
of
comments
that
are
received
for
your
projects
that
receive
or
need
a
lot
of
adjustments
or
changes
based
on
comments
received.
It
can
take
significantly
longer.
M
Connotation
associated
with
it,
but
that
one
took
months
and
months
to
wrap
up
once
the
comment
period
closed.
If
that
gives
you
any
kind
of
goal
posts
to
work
around
guidelines,
I
guess
are
a
better
description
for
that,
but
essentially
it's.
It
is
tied
pretty
closely
to
the
extent
of
changes
that
are
needed
to
the.
N
I
just
wanted
just
to
thank
everyone
for
having
us
here
today
and
also
just
to
mention
this
is
this
is
not
our
last
time
to
be
out
in
community
to
share
what
we
know,
what
we're
learning
and
what
will
what
space
we'll
have
for
community
to
have
more
opportunities
to
ask
questions,
and
so
I
just
would
ask
folks,
if
there's
other
community
organizations
groups
that
you
would
like
us
to
be
at
please
let
us
know
so
we
can
schedule
those
conversations
before
the
the
pump
public
period
opens.
M
Forget
all
right:
this
first
link
is
a
project
specific
web
page,
and
the
second
link
is
pertinent
to
air
permitting
in
south
minneapolis
and
it
that
particular
page
has
some
other
information
about
the
cumulative
levels
and
effects
processed
as
well.
If
you
were
not
otherwise
familiar
with
those
along
with
a
few
languages.
Excuse
me
documents
in
alternative
languages
such
as
spanish
and
somali.
M
I
think
that
one
was
it
for
both
myself
and
monica
vidali,
dr
vidalia,
I
should
mention
you
can
reach
me
anytime,
six,
five,
one,
seven,
five,
seven,
two
four
one
six
and
my
email
address-
is
my
first
name
dot.
Last
name
formerly
jeffrey.hedman.state.mn,
happy
to
take
your
questions
again,
you
don't
need
to
wait
for
any
kind
of
future
meeting
or
a
scheduled
public
meeting
or
anything
like
that
feel
free
to
drop
me
a
line
anytime.
We
can.
I
would
be
happy
to
talk
about
the
project
what's
currently
in
it.
C
A
M
I'll
also
toss
in
that
you
may
have
seen
a
similar
presentation
done
for
the
west
phillips
community.
I
added
in
half
a
dozen
or
so
extra
slides
for
this
particular
group
upon
receipt
of
some
of
the
questions
we
got
in
advance
of
the.
A
Meeting
well
thanks
again,
I
do
have
a
couple
quick
announcements:
if
green
zone
members
can
stay
on
for
another
minute
or
two,
the
first
is
thank.
A
Monica
good
to
hear
your
voice,
so
the
first
is
for
anyone
who
wasn't
able
to
make
the
joint
green
zone
meeting
on
june
29th.
A
I
was
going
to
give
a
quick
overview,
but
I
think
everyone
who's
here
was
able
to
attend
so
I'll
just
give
a
quick
update
instead,
which
is
that
I
have
met
with
a
couple
more
folks
at
the
city,
including
jenny
lansing,
who
was
at
that
meeting.
A
Talking
about
air
monitoring
and
jenny
has
also
been
talking
with
folks
at
the
mpca,
including
mika
about
collaborating
on
a
community
ear
monitoring
project
and
so
we're
just
at
the
beginning
phases
of
like
generating
the
idea
of
what
would
be
monitored
and
where
would
the
monitors
be
and
who
would
be
collecting
the
information.
But
the
general
goal
is
that
it
would
be
as
community
led
and
community
or
like
citizen
science
participatory
as
possible.
A
So
basically,
what
I'm?
What
we're
doing
now
is
trying
to
find
out
who
would
be
interested
in
participating
in
that
project
and
participation
could
include
anything
from
helping
to
determine
again
any
of
those
things
I
mentioned,
what's
monitored,
where
the
monitors
go
and
helping
engage
other
people
in
the
process,
or
it
could
just
be
as
simple
as
staying
informed
as
conversations
happen
and
decisions
are
made.
A
So,
if
you're
interested,
let
me
know,
I
think
what
we
would
be
hoping
is
to
get
a
meeting
together
later
in
august,
probably
virtual,
just
for
anyone
who
is
interested
to
just
start,
brainstorming
and
ideating,
and
things
like
that.
E
A
E
C
A
No
and
that's
it,
that's
such
a
great
point,
cassie
and
and
again
also
part
of
this
that
again
and
like
there's,
been
like
two
conversations
internally,
but
an
idea
around
with
the
citizen
science
that
community
members
would
actually
be
educating
other
community
members
and
educating
the
city
in
the
state.
So
like
you
would
be.
Let's
say
you
have
a
monitor.
You
would
be
observing
like
what's
going
on
in
your
neighborhood
when
you,
when
that
monitor
spikes
like.
K
A
Was
your
neighbor
mowing
with
a
diesel
lawn
mower
or
did
a
truck
sit
in
idle
in
front
of
your
house,
or
you
know,
and
then
being
able
to
share
present
that
information
to
again
to
your
educate,
your
own
community
members
and
also.
A
So
thanks
karen
for
mentioning
that
so
yes,
you
know,
let
me
know
now
I'll
also
be
sending
out
emails
about.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
it.
A
A
I've
got
a
draft
that
I
can
share
around
and
if
and
also
ask
like,
does
somebody
want
to
co-present
with
me
will
be
likely
if
we
go
in
within
the
next
month,
it'll
be
virtual,
so
I
would
recommend
having
a
familiarity
with
teams,
because
that's
the
platform
it's
going
to
be
on.
If
we
wait
longer,
it
could
be
in
person,
but
I
think
we
want
to
be
conscious
of
the
timing.
I
submitted
a
budget
request
through
the
budget
process,
and
so
we
want.
A
We
would
want
this
to
go
in
front
of
city
council
to
kind
of
like
remind
them
like
what
is
the
green
zones?
What
are
we
working
on
like?
What
are
all
the
great
things
we've
been
doing
and
we
want
the
money.
So
that's
another
thing
that
I
wanted
to
throw
out
there.
If
anyone
would
be
interested
and
willing
to
look
at
the
presentation
and
or
present
sometime
in
the
next
month
or
so.
A
Oh
and
then
for
our
next,
so
our
next
southside
green
zone
meeting,
so
I
haven't
heard
anyone
say
that
in
general,
the
first
monday
or
sorry,
the
first
wednesday
of
the
month,
won't
work
cassie.
I
know
your
birthday
is
our
next
potential
meeting
on
september
1st,
but
I
think
topic
areas
for
that
meeting.
A
I've
had
some
conversations
with
neighborhood
development
council
who
operates
midtown
global
market
is
planning
to
do
a
bunch
of
development
that
impacted
sites
from
the
uprising
around
chicago
and
lake,
and
then
the
graves
foundation
also
they've
both
seen
the
development
criteria,
the
green
zones
drafted
and
were
are
willing
to
come
to
a
green
zone
meeting
and
talk
about
what
their
plans
are
for
development.
At
this
point,
so
folks
are
interested
in
that
I
can
tee
them
up
for
presentations
for
september
1st.
C
G
Yeah
go
ahead
karen,
so
we
didn't
consider
the
resolution
because
we
didn't
have
a
quorum,
but
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we
might
have
like
to
say
it's,
I
don't
know
who's
left.
I
mean
it's
that
we've
lost
a
couple,
people
as
well,
but
some
sort
of
sense
of
of
who
is
here
about
the
the
meaning
of
that
resolution.
I
mean
we're
running
into
a
deadline.
You
know
the
fifth
of
august.
G
The
city
council
is
going
to
potentially
decide
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
do
what
that
resolution
talks
about
which
is
I'll
either
continue
the
the
the
city's
project
to
the
hiawatha
project
or
or
continue
to
pause
it
like
they
are
right
now
and
support
the
neighborhoods
community
development
projects.
So
I'm
I
don't
know
I
mean
it's
frustrating
not
to
be
able
to.
Is
there
a
way
we
can
have
this
vote
electronically
separately?
You
know
or
something
I
don't
know
it's
just.
A
Topic
yeah
we're
not
allowed
to
have
email
votes.
This
is
like
virtual
meetings
are
the
closest
we
can
have
for
online
votes.
We
have
to
be
able
to
have
a
voice
vote,
whether
in
person
or
virtual,
so
yeah.
E
A
C
A
Like
the
letters
that
the
great
southside
green
zone
has
approved
in
the
past,
because
I
know
there's
like
three
or
four
of
them,
you.
C
A
G
Yeah,
well,
I
think
we
had
once
talked
about
and
didn't.
We
once
have
an
emergency
meeting,
because
we
locked
a
quorum
and
we
wanted
to
do
something
like
this.
I
mean
is
that
something
people
would
be
up
for.
I'm
just
worried
we're
running
out
of
time.
You
know,
august
5th
could
be
the
last
you'll
hear
of
opening
the
system.
C
E
G
Yeah
well,
if
everybody
was
alerted
to
it
ahead
of
time-
and
we
just
said
you
know-
we
got
15
minutes-
please
be
prepared
to
vote.
You
know
it's
an
emergency
meeting
because
we
are
in
an
emergency
time.
I
just
this
is
the
second
meeting
that
we
haven't
had
a
quorum
and
we
had
the
resolution
before
us.
So
I'm
just
concerned
that
that
might
send
a
different
kind
of
message.
A
G
G
And
we
need-
and
we
need,
how
many
nine,
so
we
were
too
short.
Well,
I
I'm
you
know,
joan
is
usually
a
very
faithful
attendee.
I
don't
know
what
happened
with
her
and
and
I
sound
like
jose
luis
came
on
later
or
this
you
know.
I
don't
know
if
you're
still
there
jose
luis,
but
oh
yeah,
I
think
you
are,
was
he
counted
as
part
of
the
quorum.
A
Jason,
who
I
haven't
heard
from
since
he
reapplied
in
the
spring,
we're
missing
it,
who
I
know,
is
very
busy
and
has
not
responded
to
my
text
messages
to
do
his
oath
of
office.
Blake
was
on
vacation.
Normally
he
would
be
available
hugo.
I
didn't
hear
anything
from
for
tonight,
but
she
has
been
at
our
last
couple
of
meetings
is
working
joan.
I
didn't
hear
anything
from
so
normally.
I
think
we
would
potentially
have
a
teach-up
like
mohubo
and
joan
in
addition
to
those.
C
A
Yeah,
the
the
boards
in
commission
structure
doesn't
allow
for
work
to
get
done
terribly
easily.
G
Well,
could
we
ask
kelly
to
try
just
to
put
something
together
on
an
emergency
basis?
Maybe
if
we
could
find
out
when
joe
would
get
back
and
baby,
you
could
become
you
thought,
maybe
cassie.
So,
even
if
we
lost.
A
Yeah,
because
I
mean
other
things
we
wanted
to
do
tonight
like
is
elect
new
leadership,
so
it
doesn't
keep
falling
on
costar,
sorry,
kosar
and
samara
to
hold
all
of
the
meetings,
scheduling
and
planning
yeah.
G
M
K
C
M
Wanted
to
throw
in
my
two
cents
that
that
issue
was
last
was
actually
raised
at
a
meeting
like
this
with
the
west
phillips
community
earlier.
M
I
think
it
was
this
month
and
it
was
a
request
to
look
more
into
traffic
related
impacts,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
the
plug-in
for
these
kinds
of
meetings,
maybe
again
topical
with
your
current
discussion
that
they
matter
and
then,
if
you
have
requests
or
concerns,
venues
like
this
are
great
to
share
with
not
just
my
agency,
but
you
know
you
talked
to
transportation
earlier
and
that
these
kinds
of
meetings
are
very
important.
M
Clearly
you're
all
here.
So
I'm
preaching
the
choir.
C
M
Again
that
kind
of
work
it
is
hard
for
us
to
to
look
at
because
we're
so
we're
the
state.
We
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
irons
in
the
fire,
so
to
speak.
That
certainly
south
minneapolis
is
a
very
important
one
and
we're
looking
closely
at
it,
but
there
there's
a
lot
of
other
places
to
look
to.
So
if
you
can
help
us
identify
specific
concerns
that
you
have
like,
I
think
the
previous
gentleman
did
at
the
west
phillips
community
meeting.
M
We
can
look
a
little
closer
in
some
sign
some
instances.
It's
it's
hard
to
make
promises
like
in
advance
without
doing
some
homework,
for
it
to
see
what
resources
available
that
we
can
bring
to
bear,
but
still
the
general
statement.
These
are
super
important
meetings
to
have
that's
all.
I
had
to
say
really
thank
you.
A
Yeah
so
yeah
thanks
everyone
for
your
extra
15
minutes.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
will
I'll
try
to
reach
out
to
everybody
tomorrow
and
see
if
we
can
get
an
emergency
meeting
scheduled
for
either
the
end
of
this
week
or
early
next
week.