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From YouTube: October 6, 2021 Policy & Government Oversight Committee
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C
I
am
going
to
call
to
order
our
regular
meeting
for
wednesday
october
6th
just
want
to
shout
out
my
daughter's
birthday
is
today.
I
will
also
note
that,
for
the
record,
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
council
members
and
city
staff
is
authorized
under
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law,
section
13
d
.021
due
to
the
declared
state
of
local
public
health
emergency.
C
D
C
D
D
B
C
I
I
do
want
to
note
that
councilmember
mcconnell
was
here
earlier
and
seems.
E
C
She
is
here,
if
you
as
well
as
councilmember
osman,
if
you
both
just
want
to
voice
so
that
we
can
confirm
your
attendance.
C
All
right:
well,
we
have
21
items
on
today's
agenda,
including
three
discussion
items,
and
I
do
want
to
just
thank
councilmember
fletcher
for
sending
out
some
messaging
around
one
of
our
discussion
items
and
and
just
hope
that
we
can
all
respect
the
information
that
was
shared
item
number
one
is
on
our
consent.
Agenda
is
to
evaluate
steps
with
a
city
requirement
that
all
single
stall,
restrooms
and
city
owned
and
operated
buildings
and
city
licensed
businesses
be
gender
neutral.
C
A
report
back
in
the
first
quarter
of
2022.
This
direction
was
brought
forth
by
council
member
schrader
in
our
last
meeting,
but
is
coming
back
to
us
today
with
the
required
fiscal
note.
Item
number
two
is
approving
the
codec
19,
employee
testing
and
proof
of
vaccination
policy.
C
Item
number
four
is
setting
a
public
hearing
for
october
20
to
consider
an
ordinance
updating
the
20-year
neighborhood
park
plan
item
number
five
is
accepting
tabling
fees
and
sponsorships
for
the
2021
trans
equity
summit,
which
just
wrapped
earlier
this
week
and
was
a
huge
success.
C
I
know
number
six
is
contract
amendments
for
2021
housing,
opportunities
for
persons
with
aids
or
hopwa
programming.
Item
number:
seven
is
a
contract
amendment
with
municipal
code
corporation
for
codification
services.
C
C
Item
number
15
is
adding
the
parking
on
street
systems
meter
replacement
project
to
the
2021
capital
budget
item
number
16
is
a
technical
adjustment
to
bond
authorizations
for
park
board
projects.
Item
number
17
is
a
legal
settlement.
Item
number
18
is
accepting
a
polad
foundation
grant
for
alternative
mental
health
response
and
early
intervention
system.
C
I
am
aware
that
council
member
fletcher
has
proposed
an
amendment
for
this
item,
so
I
will
pull
this
off
the
consent
agenda
board
discussion
and
with
that,
would
any
of
my
colleagues
like
to
comment
on
any
of
these
items
or
pull
anything
for
discussion.
Besides
item
18
and
I
did
see
council
member
fletcher
put
his
name
in
the
queue
councilman
fletcher.
G
I
think
he
counts
the
first
person
I
was
putting
my
name
in
queue
for
item
18,
so
I
can
wait
until
we
get
to
that.
We
can
dispense
with
the
rest
of
the
consent
agenda.
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
so
colleagues
or
I
should
ask
once
again
does
anyone
else
have
any
items
they
want
to
comment
on
and
or
pull
for
discussion,
and
I
do
see.
Member
osman
has
joined
our
meeting
council
member.
Can
you
just
voice
your
presence.
C
Thank
you
so
much
seeing
none.
I
will
move
the
consent
agenda
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
C
C
That
the
consent
agenda
passes
and
we
can
now
return
to
item
number
18,
which
again
is
the
acceptance
of
a
polad
foundation
grant
for
an
alternative
mental
health
response
and
police
early
intervention
system.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
motion
and
I
do
believe
council
member
fletcher
would
like
to
bring
forth
an
amendment.
G
I
would
thank
you,
council
vice
president,
so
I
I
want
to
just
frame
this
up
for
my
colleagues,
who
might
be
less
familiar
with
it
and
just
make
sure
everybody
is
aware
of
the
context
of
this
conversation.
So
this
is
an
item
that
was
proposed
in
the
mayor's
budget
last
year
that
this
council
voted
not
to
fund
in
the
last
budget.
G
What
has
happened
since
then,
is
that
city
staff
have
applied
for
a
grant
from
the
pull
ed
foundation
to
fund
this
item
and
have
skipped
the
step
where
they
come
to
counsel
under
our
financial
policies.
They're
required
to
get
council
approval
to
apply
for
a
grant
over
250
thousand
dollars,
and
so
there
was
there
should
have
been
a
moment
for
us
to
ask
questions
to
learn
about
how
we
feel
about
this
proposal
and
and
to
approve
it.
G
And
so
I
think
that
there
are
a
couple
of
questions
in
front
of
us
and
I
am
pursuing
the
question
of
whether
an
ethics
complaint
can
reveal
the
extent
to
which
that
that
circumvention
of
the
council's
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
this
conversation
is
was
intentional
or
was
was,
was
meant
to
circumvent
the
council's
authority.
G
G
This
funding
is
for
an
early
intervention
system
that,
if
done
well,
I
support
and
that,
if
done
well,
could
be
very
beneficial
to
the
leadership
of
mpd
in
addressing
some
of
the
performance
and
behavior
issues
that
we
have
all
wanted
to
see,
more
accountability
for,
if
done
poorly,
it
could
be
extremely
harmful,
and
so
I
do
have
questions
about
it.
G
We
haven't
had
an
opportunity
before
this
came
before
us
today
to
get
those
questions
answered,
and
so
I'm
proposing
an
amendment
that
I
would
ask
the
clerk
to
put
on
the
screen.
I
know
I
sent
this
around
to
everybody
last
night
that
receives
the
money.
I
think
I
think
we
should
accept
the
pull
out
grant.
I
don't
think
that
we
should
reject
this
on
principle,
just
because
this
was
done
sort
of
as
an
end
around
to
council
process.
G
I
actually
think
the
poll
that
grant
did
some
good
thoughtful
work
to
approve
this
and
that
I
think
that
they're
aligned
with
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
that
we're
likely
to
receive
in
a
consent
decree
and
in
the
work
of
the
department
of
justice
and
the
department
of
human
rights-
that's
ongoing.
G
I
think
this
is
something
that
we're
probably
going
to
do
next
year,
one
way
or
the
other,
and
I
I
think
that
we
should
accept
the
money
into
finance
so
that
we
can
insert
reinsert
the
part
of
the
process
that
was
skipped,
which
is
that
we
need
the
people
who
are
going
to
own
this
process
to
come
to
council
and
tell
us
how
they're
putting
guard
rails
on
to
protect
people's
data
privacy,
how
they
are
making
sure
that
there's
high
quality
data
being
used.
G
G
According
to
our
city's
data
privacy
policies,
according
to
our
human
resources
practices,
to
make
sure
that
this
is
something
that
we
think
is
going
to
work,
and
that
is
going
to
be
something
that
we
can
stand
by,
and
so
my
proposal
is
to
amend
this,
to
receive
the
grant
gratefully
and
to
hold
the
money
in
finance
until
we
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
a
few
questions
and
approve
the
project
as
proposed,
as
should
have
happened
before
we
ever
applied
for
the
grant.
C
I
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
this
being
pulled
and
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
discuss
it
for
those
of
you.
Who've
listened
to
me
in
the
past.
You
know
that
I've
been
a
supporter
and
very
interested
in
an
early
warning
system
is
what
we
called
it
originally,
when
it
was
recommended
in
2006
that
we
do
this.
I
I
last
year's
budget
actually
wanted
some
funding
for
it
to
go
to
the
civil
rights
department.
I
have
big
concerns
about
it
going
to
the
police
department,
partly
because
of
their
inability
to
implement
it
in
the
past.
Even
though
it's
been
asked,
it's
been
recommended
and
I'll
also
note
that
mayor
hodges
requested
and
we
voted
to
approve
124
000
in
ongoing
money
for
an
early
intervention
system
in
the
2016
budget,
quoting
from
that
budget.
I
124
000
for
funding
office
of
justice
programs,
ojp
recommendations
to
implement
an
automated
software
data
system
to
operationalize
the
early
intervention
system,
which
includes
one
full-time,
equivalent
or
fte.
As
we
say
in
our
budget,
that
apparently
was
never
implemented,
but
that
was
ongoing
money
that
we
approved
to
put
in
there.
So
for
the
past
six
years
we've
been
funding
a
position
that
hasn't
been
filled,
presumably,
and
that
amounts
to
744
thousand
dollars.
If
I'm
doing
the
math
correctly.
I
So
I'm
wondering
what
happened
to
that
you,
you
also
might
remember
in
june
2020,
there
was
an
article
about
it
in
star
tribune,
and
I
know
that
there
was
actually
a
job
opening
for
this
in
2019,
so
it
took
a
while,
but
there
was
a
job
opening
for
it,
because
I
was
contacted
by
somebody
who
applied
for
that
and
wanted
to
be
interviewed
for
it
and
actually
was
interviewed
for
it.
I
Who
sent
me
a
note
saying
that
that
she
applied
in
march
and
was
contacted
in
april,
and
this
is
back
in
2020.
I
But
she
didn't
hear
back
until
september
to
set
up
an
interview
and
she
had
an
interview
september
18th
and
was
going
into
her
second
round,
but
the
position
was
never
filled,
even
though
the
background
check
she
told
me
was
completed
in
december
of
2019..
I
I
I'll
just
note
that
she
even
commented
at
the
end
of
this
email
that
mr
derrick
sheldon
was
a
prime
candidate
for
the
intervention
program,
and
I
cannot
help
but
wonder
what
if
and
I
have
that
same
wonder
about
it.
So
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
should
pursue.
I
don't
have
much
confidence
that
mpd
under
the
current
charter
anyway,
is
actually
going
to
be
able
to
implement
it
since
they've
avoided
to
do
so.
For
this
long.
C
Thank
you
councilmember
next,
thank
you
is
councilmember
palmisano.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
do
agree
with
councilmember
fletcher
to
the
point
of.
We
should
be
able
to
ask
questions
about
this,
and
so
to
that
end
I
would
like
to
get
started
on
it,
and
I
was
hoping
that
coordinator
johnston
would
be
willing
to
speak
to
this.
In
terms
of
my
understanding
is
this
was
a
very
accelerated
short
grant
cycle,
and
then,
after
that,
I
have
a
couple
of
comments.
K
Madam
chair
council,
member
paul
masano,
I
will
speak
to
this.
I've
been
getting
up
to
speed
to
this
very
quickly
on
this
issue,
so
I
will
I've
gathered
some
information,
so
I
will
speak
to
it
to
my
the
best,
my
ability.
I
can't
speak
to
the
earlier
question
on
the
position,
but
I
will
speak
to
timeline.
My
understanding
is
that
this
grant
there's
you
know
with
every
grant.
You
need
to
find
out
what's
eligible.
K
So
as
I
understand
it,
the
city
learned
in
kind
of
the
early
to
mid-april
time
frame
that
that
this
grant
was
going
to
become
a
possibility
and
so
then
mid
to
late
april
of
2021
is
when
the
city
coordinator's
office,
mpd
and
health
narrowed
down
the
ideas
to
three
different
proposals
and
the
departments
compiled
the
information
and
the
grant
deadline
was
may
14th
of
2021,
and
so
it
was
a
pretty
quick
turnaround
in
terms
of
the
the
application
process,
and
this
does
happen
from
time
to
time-
it's
certainly
not
ideal,
but
where
we'll
have
to
apply
for
a
grant
before,
before
the
the
we
have
time
to
bring
it
to
council.
J
Excuse
me:
yes,
please
thanks.
I,
I
don't
think
that
you
can
accept
a
grant
and
then
change
the
terms
of
it
or
change
what
department
it
goes
to
my
understanding
from
councilmember
gordon's
recollection
of
that
former
eis
money
is
that
it
was
used
for
an
early
intervention
system,
but
it
also
was
not
enough
to
stand
up
a
full
solution.
J
J
this.
This
system
was
a
direct
recommendation
from
the
department
of
justice,
and
this
tool,
right
out
of
the
gates,
can
really
help
us
with
our
recruiting
efforts,
because
we
need
to
ensure
that
we
are
giving
support
to
employees.
I
don't
think
that
this
can
be
a
part
of
civil
rights,
but
rather
it
will
need
to
be
a
part
of
the
health
and
wellness
programs
of
mpd.
J
I
think
it's
important
for
these
kinds
of
programs
to
not
feel
like
a
negative
thing.
You
you
cannot
divorce
this
from
being
an
important
police
accountability
measure,
and
you
also
cannot
force
people
to
participate
in
these
kinds
of
programs.
C
L
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
did
have
a
chance
to
check
in
with
a
representative
from
the
poland
foundation
after
I
learned
that
this
grant
acceptance
would
be
coming
at
the
last
minute
to
our
pogo
meeting
today.
L
I
understand
that
it
was
intentionally
not
brought
to
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
and
rather
sent
here
instead,
which
is
another
process,
concern
and
violation,
but
putting
that
aside
I
mean
there
was
plenty
of
time
back
in
april
and
may
to
bring
something
through
council,
certainly
the
same
way
that
this
item
was
added
to
this
agenda.
Just
a
couple
of
days
ago,
there
was
a
pogo
meeting
on
april
14th
and
a
city
council
meeting
on
april
16th.
L
L
I
know
myself
I'd
participate
in
leadership
meetings
with
the
mayor
and
the
vice
president
and
the
city
coordinator's
office.
I
participate
in
policy
group
meetings.
I
participate
in
agenda
settings.
All
of
these
times
would
have
been
an
opportunity
to
engage
the
council,
which
should
have
happened.
There's
just
really
no
reason
to
shut
the
council
out
of
something
like
this,
so
I
hope
going
forward
that
we
can
all
regroup
and
work
together
on
this
important
item.
L
In
my
conversation
with
with
the
foundation,
at
least
that
one
conversation,
there
was
no
concern
expressed
to
me
about
the
idea
of
us
putting
this
in
in
the
finance
department.
In
this
way,
I
know
that
the
foundation
also
created-
or
my
understanding
is
both
from
staff
and
the
foundation
that
there's
some
implementation,
guardrails
and
steps
in
place
as
part
of
the
grant,
but
that's
what
we
could
learn
about
more.
L
As
we
hear
about
the
details
of
how
this
will
be
implemented,
you
know
predictive
systems
use
data
to
predict
future
behavior.
So
if
biased
information
is
entered
into
a
system,
then
we
could
expect
biased
results.
It's
one
of
the
many
things
that
I
think
is
important
for
us
as
policymakers
to
make
sure
that
you
know
our
constituents
expect
us
to
be
accountable,
given
that
the
council
doesn't
have
authority
over
the
police
department,
once
we
approve
budget
items,
you
know
we
never
sometimes
never
hear
about
them
again.
L
You
know
councilmember
gordon's
questions
are
are
a
perfect
example
of
that
this
was
already
funded
and,
and
there
is
still
yet
no
system,
so
I
think
there
are
real
issues
here
being
honest
about
the
issues
that
we're
trying
to
address
through
the
system
is
a
really
important
step
to
fixing
them.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
as
a
city
council
take
responsibility
in
the
way
that
our
constituents
expect
us
to.
L
So
I
support
council
member
fletcher's
motion
to
to
move
this
funding
in
the
way
he
described
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
having
checkpoints
at
the
council
not
just
for
ourselves
but
for
the
public
and
our
constituents
who
expect
us
to
do
everything
we
can
to
increase
accountability
and
to
make
sure
that
you
know
our
police
department
is
serving
people
in
the
way
that
the
public
expects.
C
M
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
I
have
two
things
and
I'm
assume
council,
member
fletcher
will
yield
to
a
question.
Aren't
there
two
parts
to
this
grant
one
would
be
the
early
intervention
system
and
the
other
piece
would
be
a
mental
health
piece
if
the
process
is
so
terrible.
Why
are
you
willing
to
move
forward
the
mental
health
piece,
but
not
this
piece,
so
I'm
hoping
council
member
fletcher
can
speak
to
that
and
then
I'll
just
get.
M
My
second
question
out
there,
which
is
madam
chair,
is
the
chief:
is
the
police
chief
on
the
call
and
if
he
is
perhaps
he
can
speak
to
this
allegation
that
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
has
been
wasted
and
nothing
has
happened
with
it.
My
understanding
is
that
it
wasn't
enough
money
throughout
the
process,
and
maybe
he
can
speak
to
that
rather
than
a
council
member,
suggesting
that
the
police
department
yet
again
did
something
unethical
or
immoral,
which
has
pretty
much
been
the
trend
of
all
of
these
questions.
Thanks.
C
Thank
you
councilmember,
so
I
I
will
first
ask
councilmember
fletcher.
If
you
want
to
respond
to
that
inquiry,
or
should
we
hear
from
the
chiefers.
G
G
G
I
I
think
that
the
implications
in
terms
of
the
council's
democratic
power
of
the
purse,
which
is
which
we're
we're
often
told,
is
the
way
we
should
be
holding
the
police
department
accountable
under
our
current
charter,
that
the
implications
of
having
us
vote
something
out
of
the
budget
and
then
having
having
it
brought
back
in
through
foundation
funding,
I
think,
is
important
to
stand
up.
G
I
would
accept
it
as
a
friendly
amendment
if
you
wanted
to
hold
the
whole
700
000
if
you
thought
that
was
more
consistent,
I'm
I'm
open
to
that,
but
I
do
view
the
I
do
view
them
differently,
because
one
is
a
program
that
we
already
did
thoroughly
review
and
allocate
money
to,
and
the
other
is
one
that
we
did
not
allocate
money
to
intentionally
explicitly
did
not
allocate
money
to
whether
you
agree
with
that
decision
or
not.
G
I
hope
you
would
agree
that
it
undermines
the
democratic
process
when
the
council
rejects
something,
and
then
we
go
to
a
private
funding
source
to
fund
it
anyway.
N
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
council
members,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
you
this
afternoon,
specifically
manager
related
to
councilmember
goodman's
question.
She
is
correct.
We
we've
had
the
position
filled
in
the
past
when
the
question
was
raised
about
the
120
for
120
000.
However,
the
system
at
that
time,
it
was
not
built
up
to
the
capacity
that
we
needed
to
be
fully
efficient
and
functional.
N
N
There
was
no
functioning
of
this
eis
system
it
just
it
is
not
to
the
capacity
or
to
the
efficiency
that
this
money,
and
this
generous
offer
through
the
pull-out
family
foundation,
would
would
provide
us.
So
hopefully
that
explains
that.
C
Thank
you.
Chief
nixon
q
is
council
member
osman.
H
Oh,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
using
my
phone.
I
do
have
a
question.
I
really
want
to
hear
more
about
early
intervention
system.
What
does
that
mean?
How
long
has
this
been
around?
Have
we
wondered
before?
What
is
this
tend
to
do?
Is
that
anyone
or
the
chief
anyone
can
talk
about
more
details
being
a
new
council
member?
I
have
really
no
idea
what
or
like
this
early
intervention
system
supposed
to
be
or
supposed
to
do.
C
H
N
Madam
chair,
yes,
I
can
at
this
time
so
madam
chair
to
councilman
osmond.
Thank
you
for
the
the
question.
So,
as
many
of
you
might
recall
that
when
I
came
into
my
position
back
in
2017
officer,
health
and
wellness
has
been
a
key
part
of
this
organization
and
how
we
continue
to
transform
and
move
forward.
We
certainly
have
recognized
some
of
the
experiences
that
our
communities
undergo
in
terms
of
trauma
and
wellness.
N
We
wanted
to
be
very
inward
thinking
and
making
sure
that
we
are
giving
our
best
support
and
resources
to
our
men
and
women
who
are
going
out
there
to
meet
our
communities
in
the
spaces
that
they
are.
The
early
intervention
system
is,
is
really
a
automated
system
that
does
not
just
rely
upon
a
human
set
of
eyes
and
ears
to
track
employee
performance.
This
eis
system
brings
us
up
to
the
21st
century
in
making
sure
that
we're
using
data
and
analytics
entirely
to
track
the
performance
measures
of
our
employees.
N
N
This
allows
the
mpd
and
specifically
our
frontline
supervisors,
to
to
monitor
and
to
evaluate
and
assess
those
officers
in
terms
of
their
performance.
N
Another
unique
characteristic
about
this
to
the
council
members
question
is
that
I've
heard
both
from
our
city
council
members
as
well
as
our
community,
that
they
want
the
best
of
our
officers
to
show
up
in
these
spaces,
and
also
this
can
be
used
as
a
risk
mitigation
tool,
and
I
believe
that
anything
that
we
can
do
as
supervisors
for
our
employees
to
provide
them
the
best
opportunities
to
excel
in
their
work.
N
We
need
to
do
that
and
I
don't
want
us
to
wait
on
the
on
on
the
back
end
when
something
bad
occurs
for
us
to
only
address
it,
then
there
is
a
high
cost
of
low
trust
and
I
believe,
there's
also
a
fierce
urgency
of
now
I,
as
chief
I
I
don't
want
us
to
wait
until
us
until
we
can
utilize
this
tool
again.
I've
heard
from
so
many
people,
including
our
elected
officials,
we
in
our
communities.
We
want
the
best
of
our
officers
right
here
and
right
now.
N
We
also
have
an
incredible
opportunity,
as
as
we're
trying
to
bring
on
new
officers
and
and
really
instill
the
culture
that
we
want
for
them
in
this
department.
This
eis
system
can
help
us
doing
that,
as
we
are
a
third
of
a
department
less
today,
our
frontline
supervisors
are
being
tasked
with
more
responsibility
and
so
for
this
to
have
a
very
robust,
automated
system
to
be
that
extra
set
of
so
to
speak,
digital
eyes
and
ears
to
monitor
that
performance.
N
I
think
that's
going
to
be
very
helpful,
so
I
will
also
pause
right
there.
But
council
excuse
me,
madam
chair
jenkins,
if
you
don't
mind
in
terms
of
some
of
the
mechanical
parts
of
this
year,
I
would
like
to
let
deputy
chief
huffman
kind
of
just
give
a
broad
overview
of
how
this
implementation
piece
works.
You.
C
Know
yeah!
No,
that's
that's
really
great,
because
that
was
going
to
be
my
next
question
to
you.
So
I'm
glad
you
have
d.c
of
men
on
board
and
if
we
can
there's
been
some
express
concerns
about
data
and
how
data
gets
interest
entered
what
data
gets
entered.
So
if
you
can
address
that
as
well,
that
would
be,
I
think,
hopefully
helpful.
O
O
Of
course,
some
of
the
details
will
be
fleshed
out
in
a
request
for
proposal
process
going
forward,
but
in
general
these
are
data-driven
systems
for
accountability,
our
accountability
as
an
agency
to
provide
our
first
line
supervisors
with
the
best
tools
to
manage
performance
to
redirect
performance
when
we
have
indicators
either
leading
or
lagging
that
someone
may
be
suffering
from
stress
or
trauma
wanting
to
be
reoriented
toward
our
mission
before
there's
an
adverse
event.
O
So
the
early
intervention
system
works
with
our
folks
in
city
it
to
integrate
data
that
comes
from
a
variety
of
city
sources
where
data
is
already
kept
and
tracked,
and
this
can
include
data
points
such
as
our
use
of
force
data,
our
computer-aided
dispatch
data
to
keep
track
of
how
many
calls
our
officers
are
answering
and
how
many
of
the
most
trauma-inducing
calls
they're
answering
our
time
keeping
system.
So
we
know
how
many
hours
officers
are
working,
their
regular
shift
and
overtime
hours
off-duty
hours.
O
O
G
Thank
you
very
much,
so
not
so
much
a
question
as
a
comment,
I
think,
but
I
just
want
to
note
the
disparity
and
access
to
information.
Even
among
our
colleagues
right.
We
we
have
a
colleague
who
didn't
know
what
an
early
intervention
system
was
and
was
being
asked
to
approve
it
on
consent
today,
and
I
think
we've
heard
some
different
ideas
about
what
it
is.
G
Council
member
palmisano's
comments
that
this
might
be
optional
or
or
something
that
people
need
to
opt
into
an
assertion
that
it's
an
accountability
tool
which
I
I
actually
think
that
the
way
it's
being
described
by
chief
eredando
and
deputy
chief
huffman
aligns
with
my
understanding
of
it-
and
I
think
actually
is-
is
the
direction
that
we're
hoping
this
is
gonna
go.
I
do
have
some
specific
questions
about
data
privacy
that
I
don't
think
that
I
think
are
probably
too
detailed
for
this
meeting.
G
We
have
a
long
agenda
in
front
of
us,
which
is
why
I'm
proposing
that
we
make
sure
we
come
back
with
the
details
that
you're
already
developing
for
the
rfp,
so
I
just
want
to
emphasize.
This
does
not
have
to
be
a
delay
that
the
work
that
is
already
happening
is
adequate
to
meet
the
level
of
detail
that
we're
looking
for.
G
I'm
just
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
of
the
kind
of
detail
that
will
be
in
the
rfp
about
what
data
we're
using,
how
we're
using
it,
how
we're
being
transparent
with
people
about
using
their
data,
which
is
a
very
important
aspect
of
the
data
privacy
principles
that
we
passed
unanimously
as
a
body,
and
so
you
know,
I
hope
that
we'll
support
this
amendment.
I
don't
think
that
we
have
to
debate
this.
G
I
think
we
actually
all
agree
that
the
to
the
extent
that
we
have
informed
knowledge
about
what
the
system
is,
that
an
eis
system
done
right
would
be
extremely
good,
and
I
think
that
chief
redondo
and
deputy
chief
hoffman
have
made
the
case
that
they
have
some
vision
for
what
it
could
be.
G
I
do
think
it's
our
job
as
as
an
oversight
body
in
this
case
as
stewards
of
public
money
and
and
the
public
budget
and
public
resources
to
make
sure
that
it's
implemented
well
and
and
that
it's
implemented
according
to
our
values.
And
so
I
I
encourage
people
to
support
the
amendment
to
make
sure
that
we
get
those
details
back
and
that
we
do
ultimately
get
the
opportunity
to
approve
a
system
that
we
feel
comfortable
with
and
I'm
not
in
a
place
where
I
have
enough
information
for
that
today.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
believe
all
of
those
questions
from
council
member
fletcher
are
are
valid
and
they
also
get
answered
in
the
rfp
process.
I
think
the
council
gets
to
ask
all
of
these
questions
before
approving
the
rfp.
J
Without
this
amendment
needed
today,
we
know
by
the
way
of
conduct
right,
that
the
risk
of
misconduct
goes
up
with
every
additional
hour
of
overtime
that
we
need
our
officers
to
work.
I
think
that
this
is
getting
started
on
this
like
as
soon
as
possible
and
not
waiting
until
the
next
budget
cycle
will
help
signal
to
potential
employees
that
we're
committed
to
that
work
and
our
commitment
to
rebuild
right,
where
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation
here
shortly
about
how
would
we
go
through
the
steps
of
reducing
para
disability
claims?
J
J
J
You
know
this
feels
more
like
an
effort
to
create
controversy
when
there
really
isn't
one
like
what
are
we
doing
here
with
this
argument,
I
think
we
all
agree
on
this,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
try
and
accept
this
money
into
some
other
holding
pattern
today.
I
think
we
should
accept
both
of
these
offers
from
the
polad
foundation
today.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
think
we
are
accepting
him
today
with
his
amendment.
So
I
think
that's
a
palmisano
and
council
members,
palmisano
and
fletcher
are
agreeing
that
we
should
I'm
supporting
the
amendment,
because
I
appreciate
that
it's
going
to
finance
I'll
also
send
a
link
to
the
2015
review.
We
got
of
this
that
I
think
might
be
useful
for
my
colleagues
to
see.
I
We
actually
had
a
review
that
was
done
by
the
department
of
justice.
Then
it
identified
quite
a
few
deficiencies
in
the
program.
It
called
it
a
reactive
program
that
did
not
fully
address
prevention
and
risk
management
said
the
interventions
to
problem
problematic.
Behavior
were
limited
mainly
to
coaching,
and
it
said
that
organizational
placement
of
eis
did
not
demonstrate
alignment
to
the
strategic
measure
and
the
intent
of
it,
and
I
think
it
actually
referred
to
the
problem
of
seeing
it
as
a
wellness
program.
I
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
this
carefully
and
we
try
to
get
it
right,
since
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
it
so
far.
Hopefully
this
money
will
help
us
get
there.
It's
good
to
hear
that
we
have
a
head
and
early
intervention
specialist
on
staff.
I
I
At
some
point-
and
maybe
really
this
discussion
should
have
been
happening
at
the
committee-
that's
in
charge
of
public
safety
and
not
here,
because
I
think
this
is
a
public
safety
issue
and
germain
to
that
topic
and
it'll
be
nice
when
we
can
get
all
our
committees
up
and
running,
maybe
and
straighten
things
out
again.
So
we
don't
have
these
kind
of
confusing
things
happening.
C
Thank
you,
councilmember
gordon.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
the
lecture
amendment.
J
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
palmisano
we're
certainly
working
still
from
those
recommendations
that
were
made
from
the
department
of
justice
in
2015,
and
they
recommended
at
that
point
that
we
should
have
an
early
intervention
system
that
conforms
with
best
practices
and
that's
what
we're
seeking
to
do
now.
So
the
money
that
we've
invested
over
the
years
has
enabled
us
to
work
with
city
it
services
to
create
a
rudimentary
early
intervention
system.
However,
it
no
longer
conforms
to
best
practices
and
doesn't
utilize
the
kind
of
technology
that's
available.
L
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
know,
we've
had
some
detailed
discussion
about
council
procedure
and
about
transparency
for
the
public.
I
do
just
want
to
say
that
I
know
we
all
13
of
us
really
appreciate
the
investment
that
the
polit
foundation
has
made
in
this
in
this
initiative,
and
I
think
that,
from
my
brief
conversation
yesterday
at
the
last
minute,
you
know
in
the
context
of
the
foundation,
really
thinking
that
the
council
had
been
more
engaged
by
the
mayor's
office
and
staff
than
had
happened
up
to
this
time.
L
I
think
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
really
great
thinking
into
starting
to
answer
some
of
these
detailed
process
questions
and
actually
the
potential
for
even
more
accountability,
given
this
the
partnership.
So
I
I
think
I
just
don't
want
it
to
get
lost
that
you
know
the
city
is
really
appreciative.
L
Whenever
we
have
a
partnership,
you
know
public,
private
or
investment
from
from
foundations
in
our
work,
and
this
is
a
place
where,
as
we've
heard
at
length,
the
details
really
matter,
reform
isn't
just
about
talking
points
or
press
conferences.
It's
the
details
that
really
matter-
and
I
know
that
we
will
all
work
together
with
each
other,
with
staff
with
the
mayor's
office
with
the
foundation
to
make
sure
those
critical
details
are
in
place
so
that
this
is
a
powerful
tool
for
change
and
not
something
that
would
reinforce
or
perpetuate
disparities
or
harm.
H
P
C
So
that
amendment
fails
and
we
pulled
it
from
the
consent
agenda,
so
I
think
we
need
to
vote.
C
On
the
original
motion,
is
there
any
discussion.
C
Well,
I
will
move
the
original
motion
on
item
number
18.
G
So
I
think
this
will
probably
pass.
I
think,
that's
probably
a
good
thing.
I'm
going
to
be
a
no
vote,
because
we,
I
just
think
on
principle.
We
can't.
G
Give
up
the
very
minimal
level
of
oversight
that
we
have
as
our
responsibility,
so
I
think
you
know
for
me.
I
think
this
is.
This
is
probably
more
symbolic
vote
than
anything.
I
assume
that
this
will
pass
based
on
the
vote.
That
just
happened,
but
I
I
want
to
really
challenge
all
of
my
colleagues
to
really
think
about
what
is
our
role
and
how
are
we
going
to
assert
the
role
of
this
council?
G
There's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
what
the
power
of
the
council
is
and
should
be,
and
this
is
a
clear
moment
where
we
have
policies
in
place
to
say
that
this
should
have
been
brought
to
us
and
that
this
should
have
been
discussed
and
it
was
not,
and
so
I'm
gonna
vote.
No,
because
at
some
point
we
have
to
assert
the
council's
role
in
this
process.
I
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
appeal
to
members
of
the
police
department,
especially
I
guess
who
are
here
that
if
we
do
get
some
funding
and
we
do
to
try
to
enact
this
policy,
please
work
with
our
advisory
group.
The
police
conduct
oversight
commission
on
what
this
intervention
system
should
look
like.
Please
work
with
civil
rights
on
this.
They
have
analysts
over
there
who
can
look
at
body
camera
and
assist
with
this.
I
This
might
be
a
great
opportunity
to
actually
form
a
real
partnership
to
implement
a
program
that
would
really
work
and
could
be
balanced.
There
is
a
perception
going
on
out
there
that,
if
the
police
department
is
the
one
in
charge
of
monitoring,
what's
going
on
with
the
police
department,
it's
unable
to
actually
be
objective
about
things
and
see
things
that
are
right
in
front
of
your
faces
or
our
faces
or
their
faces
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
I
So,
even
if
you
don't
think
that
reaching
out
and
working
with
these
other
entities
will
improve
the
program
which
I
think
it
would-
and
I
think
you
maybe
would
agree
it
probably
would,
because
they
have
some
expertise
in
a
different
viewpoint,
including
like
a
community
viewpoint
on
it.
I
think
it
might
be
worth
doing
that
just
to
instill
greater
confidence
and
trust
from
our
community.
I
I
If
you
get
this
funding
with
this
grant,
and
I
would
appreciate
hearing
how
successful
we
have
been
with
that
in
a
year
or
two
when
we're
getting
some
results
about
how
our
early
intervention
system
is
finally
working
and
working
well
and
probably
we
can
get
a
review
from
the
department
of
justice
again
and
maybe
this
time
they'll
say
yeah,
you
did
it
way
to
go.
C
D
I
H
D
C
That
item
carries
so
we
have
dispensed
with
our
consent
agenda
and
our
next
items
are
discussion.
Items
item
number
19
on
our
agenda
is
the
status
report
on
the
workers,
compensation,
self-insurance
fund
and
workers,
compensation
claims,
data
and
trends,
I'll
invite
laurie,
johnson
and
emily
colby
from
the
finance
and
property
services.
C
To
begin
that
report,
I
will
also
just
ask
people
to
you
know,
consider
council,
member
fletcher's
earlier
email
regarding
this
topic
and
that
there
are
personnel
information
that
we
cannot
share
in
public.
So
thank
you.
So
much
welcome
miss
johnson.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
jenkins
and
council
members,
I'm
lori
johnson,
the
city's
chief,
deputy
chief
finance
officer-
and
I
am
here
with
emily
colby
the
city's
director
of
risk
management
and
claims.
We
are
here,
as
you
said,
to
present
information
on
workers.
Compensation
next
slide,
please
those
of
you
who've,
met
with
emily
and
me
know
that
we
can
talk
about
this
at
length.
We
also
know
that
you
have
time
constraints
and
there's
only
certain
information
we
can
present
in
that
that
time
and
as
chair
jenkins
said,
we
are
also
avoiding
any
personnel
data
information.
Q
So
today
we
will
be
focusing
on
two
items:
working
workers,
compensation
claims,
trends
and
data.
So
we
will
look
at
historical
information
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
where
various
trends
have
moved
in
various
departments
what
they
have
seen
as
far
as
claims
over
the
years.
We
will
also
focus
on
workers,
compensation,
self-insurance
fund,
and
I'm
talking
about
future
planning
how
the
fund
is
funded.
Q
We
will
veer
away
from
anything
regarding
staffing
levels
or
operational
items
in
the
various
departments.
We
really
want
to
keep
this
about
the
trends
of
of
data
and
the
self-insurance
financial
status,
so
the
other
thing
to
note
is
that
this
is
a
snapshot
in
time.
These
claims
change
daily.
So
you
will
see
various
numbers
presented
throughout
this
data
and
they
won't
all
match
up.
That's
because
they
may
have
been
taken
a
different
day
a
different
week,
but
know
that
they
are
accurate.
It's
just
that
claims
data
does
change
on
a
daily
basis.
Q
The
other
thing
I
would
note
that
we
are
fully
self-insured
for
workers
compensation
and,
in
addition
to
that,
we
administer
all
of
the
claims,
so
our
staff
handles
all
of
the
claims.
We
have
not
had
any
additional
staff
to
handle
the
workload
of
claims
and
we
have
been
meeting
statutory
deadlines
with
those
claims.
Q
So
this
this
seems
like
a
long
process,
but
these
claims
are
are
working
their
way
through
and
with
that,
I
would
like
to
turn
it
to
ms
colby
to
give
us
an
overview
of
claims
trends,
we're
going
to
go
back
10
years
and
talk
about
some
trends.
So
next
slide
please
and
emily.
If
you
would,
please
provide
the
information.
R
Yes,
good
afternoon,
the
first
slide
I
want
to
go
through
in
presenting
some.
Can
you
hear
me?
R
Okay?
The
first
slide
I
wanted
to
to
present
and
go
through
provides
a
snapshot
of
the
last
from
from
2011
to
present
of
annual
spend
on
workers.
Comp
claims.
One
thing
to
understand
about
this
particular
chart
is
that
all
of
this
spend
on
any
claim
accumulates
to
the
date
of
the
claim.
So,
even
though
you
may
be
feeling
like
hey,
we've
been
seeing
a
lot
of
settlements
that
come
from
2020
and
we've
been
approving
them
in
2021.
Why
isn't
it
showing
up
there?
R
R
That
is
because,
as
we
work
through
claims,
it
takes
a
while
for
payments
to
get
into
the
system
and
to
work
through,
what's
going
on
in
cases
that
are
being
litigated,
so
I
would
expect
to
see
that
2021
number
go
up
as
time
passes.
I
would
also
expect
to
see
the
2020
2020
number
continue
to
increase
as
we
work
through
the
backlog
of
ptsd
cases.
R
So
next
slide
please.
Unless
there
are
questions.
R
So
for
the
years
covered
by
by
this
again
2011
through
2021,
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
comparison
of
where
most
of
the
or
significant
portions
of
the
spend
for
workers
comp
is
coming
from.
So
the
first,
the
bluer
bar
on
the
chart
shows
the
city,
the
entire
citywide
amount.
The
gray
is
mpd,
the
light
blue
is
the
fire
department
and
the
darker
blue
is
public
works,
minus
fleet,
and
you
can
just
see
historically
over
time.
R
Police
and
fire
have
been
our
two
biggest
two
biggest
claims
areas,
and
it's
it's
pretty
obvious.
Why
that
is?
They
have
physical
jobs,
they're
out
in
the
public
and
they're
exposed
to
more
dangerous
things
than
say
I
am
sitting
sitting
in
my
office,
so
that
is
where
most
of
our
spend
has
gone,
or
a
lot
of
our
spend
has
gone
over
the
last
years.
R
Now
you
will
see
in
2020
that
the
police
number
popped
up
significantly,
and
that
is
mostly
what
drove
the
city-wide
number,
which
is
over
14
million,
thus
far
for
2020
claims.
They
are
at
about
11.7
million.
At
this
point
and
again,
the
2021
numbers
aren't
that
telling
at
this
point,
because
we
are
not
far
enough
in
to
have
a
good
read
on
that.
R
One
of
the
things
we're
doing
because
we
had
so
many
claims
in
one
year,
and
that
was
really
anomalous
for
us.
We
have
attempted
to
and
I
think,
we're
fairly
successful
at
it.
We
have
attempted
to
create
a
universe
where
we
have
a
cash
flow
strategy
in
which,
instead
of
paying
our
claims
that
are
going
through
mediation
and
settlement
by
lump
sums,
which
is
normally
what
is
done
in
workers
comp,
you
negotiate
a
settlement
when
some
with
somebody
and
you
pay
it
all
at
once.
R
R
So
right
now
we
have
about
5
million
in
deferred
payments
and
22
and
23
are
about
the
same
amount
and
then
2024
will
be
significantly
less.
But
again,
as
we
continue
to
work
through
the
number
of
open,
ptsd
cases
and
decide
what
is
going
to
go
to
hearing
and
what
may
be
mediated
or
what
may
be
denied
expect
those
numbers
to
grow
so.
R
R
Ptsd
claims
first,
I
did
it
by
year
for
the
early
years
2014
to
2019,
simply
because
there
weren't
a
lot
of
claims.
2014
was
the
first
year
that
employees
could
file
a
ptsd
claim.
It
was
the
first
year
that
the
legislature
made
it
compensable
and
2014
through
2019.
R
R
Part
of
what
you
see
is
obviously
a
fallout
from
the
aftermath
of
mr
floyd's
murder.
Some
of
it
is,
there
was
a
law
change
in
2019,
starting
on
january
1.
That
is
presumed
that
a
first
responder
who
reports
having
ptsd
has
gotten
it
at
work.
So
that
was
a
shifting
of
of
a
presumption
and
that,
I
think,
has
made
it
a
little
easier
for
first
responders
to
file
claims.
R
Other
things
that
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
we're
we're
working
with
that
that
feel
like
they
are
barriers
is.
Although
studies
show
that
ptsd
can
be
successfully
treated
the
city
of
minneapolis
under
minnesota
workers,
comp
law,
we
cannot
designate
who
an
employee
must
treat
with
or
the
perce
specific
type
of
treatment
they
receive,
so
in
other
states,
cities
may
be
able
to
do
that.
We
can't
do
it.
Employers
are
allowed
to
choose
their
providers
and
and
choose
what
they
feel
is
the
best
course
of
treatment
for
them.
R
And
lastly,
I
would
let
you
know
that,
as
we
are
presenting
more
and
more
of
these
to
counsel
more
and
more
of
these
ptsd
cases,
in
other
cases,
anything
that
council
is
approving
in
the
workers
comp
area.
Please
understand
that
the
cases
are
individually
reviewed
extensively
by
my
office
by
outside
counsel,
to
make
a
determination
whether
we
need
to
accept
or
deny
the
claim,
as
per
workers,
comp
regulations
and
whether
we
want
to
attempt
to
mediate
a
settlement.
The
goal
of
settlement
is
always
to
save
money
for
the
city
in
the
long
run.
R
R
So
next
slide,
please.
R
So
pandemic
related
claims.
This
was
another
thing
that
sort
of
layered
on
or
piled
on
in
2020
the
pandemic
started
in
in
march.
We
started
getting
claims
in
in
april.
As
of
today,
I
just
checked:
we've
had
189
pandemic
relate
related
claims.
Most
of
these
have
not
been
medical
claims.
Thankfully,
most
of
these
are
lost
time.
R
C
Me
emily
there
is
a
question
from
council
president
binder.
L
L
I
wondered
if
we,
if
it's
possible
or
if
we
able
to
track
any
kind
of
additional
information
other
than
the
raw
numbers
of
claims,
so,
for
example,
years
of
service
with
the
department
or
age
or
years
from
retirement,
or
you
know
gender
race.
Any
of
that
kind
of
demographic
information,
as
we
think
about
ways
to
sort
of
handle
this
and
understand
the
phenomenon
better.
Is
there
any
more
kind
of
trend
data
that
we
can
or
are
allowed
to
know,
so
that
we
can
better
understand
this.
R
We
do
in
this
presentation
actually
have
slides
coming
up
that
break
it
down
somewhat
demographically
by
age,
and
I
believe,
years
of
service.
We
have
not
broken
it
down
by
gender
or
race.
Anything
like
that,
but
lori
is
going
to
be
going
over
those
and
it's
some
interesting
stuff,
or
at
least
to
me-
I'm
sort
of
a
workers
comp
geek
but
anyway,
so
you
will
be
able
to
see
that
we
will
be
getting
to
it.
R
R
Covid19
is
a
compensable
workers,
comp
injury
for
all
employees.
There
is
a
presumption
for
emergency
responders
that
if
they
have
it
that
they
got
it
at
work,
so
what
we
are
seeing
is
almost
all,
with
the
exception
of
a
small
handful
of
our
ptsd,
are
not
our
ptsd.
Our
covet
claims
are
coming
from
first
responders,
whether
it
is
fire
or
pd.
R
As
I
was
saying.
Most
of
these
don't
have
large
medical
claims
with
them,
although
some
of
them
have
higher
medical
claims.
Most
of
these
are
wage
loss,
claims
for
people
who
had
to
take
time
off
from
work
either
to
quarantine
and
isolate
or
were
actively
sick
and
could
not
work
because
of
the
city
allowing
coveted
time
off
from
work.
Most
of
the
price
of
that
was
born
by
the
departments
rather
than
by
the
workers.
Comp
self-insured
fund.
R
Q
Q
We
do
not
track
disciplinary
records.
We
do
not
track
race
within
the
the
work
comp
system,
so
we
pulled
the
data
we
had
if
we
were
to
dig
into
the
other
demographic
because
it
would
require
a
bit
of
work
certainly
could
be
done,
but
we
use
the
information
that
we
had
available
for
us
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
want
to
do
that
is
with
any
department.
We
want
to
look
at
our
loss,
control,
program
and
figure
out.
How
can
we
address
this?
Q
Is
there
a
trend
that
we're
seeing,
for
instance,
if
we
have
an
issue
with
back
problems
in
public
works,
we
might
say
we
need
to
get
a
certain
type
of
equipment
to
lift
a
manhole
cover
so
that
we
can
eliminate
back
problems.
We
apply
our
loss,
control
measures
that
way.
Obviously
this
is
much
more
complex
and
and
not
nearly
as
straightforward,
but
it
gives
us
some
insight
into
the
issues
that
we're
facing
so
with
that,
if
you
could
progress
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
the
the
time
frame
that
I
measured.
Q
As
I
said
earlier,
this
is
all
a
snapshot
in
time
was:
may
25th
2020
through
september
to
2021.
189
claims
at
that
point,
so
the
claims
by
age
76
of
those
claims
are
from
employees
aged
44
and
over.
But
it's
not
exclusively
age
driven
as
you
can
see,
we
have
three
percent
who
are
in
the
25
to
29
age
group.
Q
Thank
you
about
58
of
our
claims
come
from
employees
who
have
20
or
more
years
of
service.
But
again
I
want
to
highlight
we
have
a
few
who've
had
less
than
four
years
of
service,
and
then
we
have
kind
of
an
anomaly
here
with
the
15
to
19,
where
there
are
only
four
percent
of
the
claims
we
have
not
dug
into
that.
Yet
I'm
not
sure
why
that
is,
but
otherwise
the
distribution
is
relatively
equal
among
most
of
the
the
age
groups
broken
up
by
five
year
increments.
Q
Q
L
Can
I
ask
a
quick
question
about
the
last
line?
Can
you
remind
us
how
the
retirement
rules
work?
Is
that
a
question
you
can
answer
simply
or
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up?
I
I
asked
because
I
was
on
an
event
with
a
retired
mpd
officer
who,
who
was
kind
of
talking
me
through
some
of
his
perceived
trends
and
anyway,
I'm
curious
about
how
ptsd
claims
may
be
relating
to
folks
who
are
close
to
are
eligible
for
retirement.
Q
Yes,
and
I
can
provide
more
information,
I
don't
want
to
speak
to
all
the
para
rules
regarding
police
and
fire.
At
this
point
we
had
that
as
a
concern
initially
as
well
and,
as
emily
pointed
out
earlier,
we
thoroughly
review
these,
because
if
we
feel
someone
is
retiring
and
then
trying
to
claim
ptsd-
and
it's
not
a
legitimate
claim-
we
are
certainly
going
to
defend
that.
Q
So
we
do
monitor
that,
but
I
I
really
don't
feel
I
want
to
get
into
all
the
para
rules
now,
because
the
eligibility
may
differ
depending
upon
when
the
employee
is
hired.
So
there
are
different
rules
that
may
apply,
but
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
with
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
yeah
you're
welcome
next
slide,
please.
Q
So
I
want
to
get
into
the
funding
component
of
it.
So
we
have
the
claims
and
then
we
have
the
self-insurance
fund
and
we
often
talk
about
the
self-insurance
fund,
but
it
is
actually
six
self
or
six
sub
funds.
We
aggregate
them
up
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
mixing
apples
and
oranges.
So
today
we're
going
to
focus
on
just
one
of
those.
I
want
to
walk
through,
though
the
six
sub
funds,
so
you
have
some
awareness.
Q
The
next
component
we
have
is
medical
self-insurance,
which
started
in
2018,
and
we
administer
that
jointly
with
the
hr
department.
Similarly,
the
dental
self-insurance-
that
is
a
much
longer
standing
program
that
has
been
around
for
years
and
then
we
have
workers
compensation,
self-insurance
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
today,
liability
self-insurance,
which
is
generally
all
of
our
liability
cases,
dump
truck,
runs
into
something
we
have
a
snow,
plow
issue.
Q
Q
And
here
are
the
cash
balances
for
the
self-insurance
reserve
broken
down
by
those
various
categories.
As
you
can
see,
our
medical
self-insurance
program
has
been
very,
very
successful.
Likewise,
our
dental,
then
we
get
to
the
workers
compensation
self
insurance,
which
shows
a
cash
balance
at
the
end
of
august
of
this
year,
just
over
29
million
dollars.
Q
Q
It
takes
a
bit
after
that
to
have
those
reflected
in
here,
so
you
will
see
that
both
in
workers,
compensation
and
liability
self-insurance,
because
it
takes
a
while
to
work
through
the
actual
signing
of
that
document
and
then
the
actual
payment
of
that
so
overall,
the
self-insurance
fund,
as
a
total,
has
just
over
100
or
over
141
million
dollars
closer
to
142
million
dollars
and
next
slide.
Please.
Q
Q
So
it
is
what
we
have
less
everything
that
we
owe
so
to
put
this
in
terms
that
are
more
relatable
for
someone
who's,
not
in
accounting
or
finance.
It
is
your
savings
account
less
your
mortgage
and
your
car
payment.
If
you
have
one,
but
you
also
know
that
you
don't
have
to
make
payment
those
payments
immediately,
you
have
time
to
earn
paychecks
and
to
pay
those.
You
have
a
plan
for
how
you
will
pay
those.
Similarly,
we
have
a
plan
for
self-insurance
and
how
we
will
fund
these.
Q
We
also
know
that
at
times,
the
actuary
actuarial
study,
which
we
do
annually,
will
take
that
the
higher
estimate
of
paying
a
claim.
So
this
tends
to
be
on
the
high
side
of
those
claims.
I
will
note
that
again,
just
focusing
on
workers
compensation
self-insurance
that
we,
our
actuarial
study,
is
done
annually
and,
as
emily
mentioned,
the
law
changed
in
2019
at
that
time,
due
to
actuarial
best
practice
standards
and
all
sorts
of
things
related
to
that,
I'm
not
an
actuary.
Q
So
we
will
also
be
restating
this
information
in
the
budget
document
for
your
end
to
state
it
individually,
because
I
think
it's
confusing
to
roll
it
together.
Now
that
we
have
the
medical
self-insurance,
which
has
such
a
substantial
balance,
we
want
to
present
transparent
information
about
each
of
these
funds.
That
accurately
reflects
the
fund,
which
isn't
necessarily
so
when
they're
all
rolled
together.
Also,
we
feel
that
may
be
overstating
some
of
the
liabilities
so
watch
for
more
information
on
that
as
we
work
on
the
budget
document
later
this
year.
Q
Next
slide,
please
so
I
talked
about
financial
planning.
These
are
the
considerations
that
we
have
as
we
pay
ongoing
claims
and,
as
we
look
out
long
term,
so
cash
flow.
The
annual
actuarial
study
allocation
model,
which
feeds
into
the
budget,
creates
those
internal
service
charges
that
we'll
go
over
in
a
bit
the
budget.
Q
We
also
do
transfers,
we
can
do
one-time
transfers
or
we
can
have
plan
transfers
and
then
the
five-year
financial
plan-
and
I
do
want
to
again
note
that
the
five-year
financial
plan
aggregates
all
of
those
sub
funds-
and
we
will
be
pulling
that
apart-
to
create
more
accurate,
individual
information.
I
should
say
for
each
of
those
funds
next
slide.
Please.
Q
Emily
earlier
mentioned
that
claims
data
in
the
workers
comp
system
and
how
they
look
at
it,
it
enters
to
the
date
in
which
the
claim
occurred.
This
shows
you
the
actual
expenditure
when
cash
went
out
the
door
so
that
you
can
see
our
typical
four
to
six
million
dollars
held
until
2016
started
to
climb
a
bit.
I
believe
we
had
a
few
fire
cancer
cases
at
that
point,
2018
dropped
down,
2019
was
up,
2020
was
down.
Q
We
did
not
have
a
lot
of
other
claims
in
2020,
the
public
works
claims
were
down
because
they
were
out
less
and
when
they
were
out,
there
were
fewer
people
on
the
streets,
fewer
cars
and
therefore
fewer
claims.
You
can
see
the
2021
balance
is
slightly
down
from
2020.
As
emily
said,
we
have
settlements
that
will
be
paid
and
that
cost
will
go
up,
as
will
the
2022
as
we
work
through
all
of
these
settlements.
Q
This
is
the
self-insurance
allocation
model
or
the
charges
to
departments.
This
is
what
comes
out
of
the
actuarial
study,
so
they
look
at
a
a
range
of
years
and
claims
and
claims
are
paid
over
time
so
that
we
can
have
that
ruling
average
and
we're
always
resetting
every
year.
We
look
back
and
say
what
did?
What
could
we
not
have
predicted
and
how
do
we
need
to
plan
that
into
future
charges
to
departments
to
make
sure
that
our
fund
is
in
a
good
position?
Q
So
you
can
see
here
that
in
2018
our
charges
were
11
and
a
half
million
approximately
for
2022
19
million
dollars.
This
is
an
increase
of
5
million
566
000,
the
police
department,
increased.
Q
Its
charges
will
increase
for
2020
to
6
million
seven
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
because
the
fire
department
is
decreasing
and
public
works
is
decreasing
because
their
claims
decreased.
I've
lumped
all
of
the
other
departments
together
because
those
are,
as
emily
said,
earlier,
very
minimal.
So
this
is
part
of
the
police
department
budget.
It
rolls
in
as
part
of
their
internal
service
charges
as
it
does
for
fire
public
works
and
all
of
the
others.
Q
L
All
right
thanks,
madam
chair
I've,
gotten
myself
really
in
the
weeds
on
this
topic
and
really
appreciate
all
the
detail.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
this
piece:
is
the
fringe
that's
showing
up
in
each
department
which,
as
I
understand
in
the
marriage,
2022
proposed
budget?
L
Q
I
believe
it
is
showing
in
their
fringe.
I
would
defer
to
emily
or
excuse
me
to
our
budget
director
to
actually
provide
that,
and
I
will
get
back
to
you
without
it.
What
I
will
tell
you
is
that
it
shows
up
as
a
charge
in
each
department's
budget,
so
the
police
department
would
have
gone
from
3
million
to
10
million.
L
Got
it
okay,
thank
you,
and
you
just
covered
this
earlier,
but
in
addition
to
the
department
by
department
increases
which
are
anticipated,
as
you
said,
to
to
likely
continue
being
at
a
higher
level
in
future
years,
based
on
the
actuarial
studies
that
are
coming
each
year,
we've
do
it
we're
doing
a
one-time
transfer
of
a
total
of
24
million
dollars
into
the
self-insurance
fund
and
that's
the
chart.
You
just
showed
us
earlier:
that's
showing
that
transfer
from
the
general
fund
into
self-insurance
to
help
offset
that
negative
net
position.
Q
Chur
jenkinson
and
council
president
bender,
I
don't
know
that
I
showed
a
slide
with
the
12
million
dollar
transfers.
We
are
transferring
24
million
proposed
in
the
2022
budget,
of
that
12
million
dollars
would
go
to
the
self
insurance
or
workers
comp
self
insurance,
so
a
12
million
dollar
infusion
on
top
of
the
added
6
million
or
5,
and
a
half
million
that
is
coming
through
the
allocation
model.
So
in
2022
that
fund
will
revenues
will
increase
by
about
17
million
17
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
we
have
a
one-time
transfer.
Q
However,
we
monitor
this.
As
I
said,
we
reset
frequently
we
look
at
what
couldn't
we
anticipate,
because
we
couldn't
anticipate
the
volume
of
ptsd
claims
that
we
had.
We,
we
do
an
actuarial
study
in
january
and
february
for
the
next
year's
budget,
so
we
don't
even
have
the
information
yet
for
so
for
2021
actuarial
was
based
on
2020
data,
but
it
feeds
the
2022
budget,
so
there's
always
a
bit
of
a
lag,
but
we
do
catch
up
and
we
plan
on
that.
We
look
me.
Q
We
look
a
lot
at
our
cash
flow
because
we
obviously
want
cash
to
pay
the
bills,
so
that
is
why
we're
structuring
these
again
to
be
longer
and
claims
are
paid
over
time.
So
we
have
that
luxury
of
time
and
the
ability
to
plan,
because
we
just
can't
it's
impossible
to
anticipate
whether
we
have
a
you
know,
tragically,
a
death
of
an
employee,
or
we
have
more
cancer
cases
with
the
the
firefighters,
because
there,
you
know,
is
language
proposed
about
presumptions
there.
That
will
also
have
an
effect.
Q
So
it
is
a
bit
of
a
look
back,
but
we
plan
for
that
and
we
accommodate
that
going
forward.
I
hope
that
answered
your
question.
I
You
know
I
can
recall
pretty
quickly
that
definitely
the
claims
for
the
police
department
were
higher
than
the
3.2
million,
and
I'm
wondering
it
looks
like
fire
department
might
have
been
a
little
higher
because
they
got
raised
in
2021,
and
I
know
you
might
not
have
this
off
the
top
of
your
head,
but
sort
of
for
the
public,
or
just
generally,
even
the
10
million
in
2022
that
we're
saying
we
want
to
do
charges
to
the
department
we're
actually
kind
of
expecting
the
claims
might
even
be
higher
than
that
in
2022.
I
Probably
because
that's
just
the
way
we
we
do
it,
the
departments
cover
some
of
those
we're
thinking,
and
then
we
have
the
general
fund
and
other
revenue
that's
coming
in
that
we're.
We
cover
some
of
that
for
the
mass
and
enterprise.
Am
I
kind
of
getting
that
right
and
if
you
do
know
how
it
matched
up
to
what
they're
paying,
but
I'm
curious
if
any
department
actually
covers
all
of
their
claims
with
this
chargeback
system
or
not.
Q
Yes,
tre
jenkins,
councilmember
gordon,
they
don't
match
up
exactly.
Q
So
we
don't
tie
it
out
that
way,
it's
just
a
little
bit
complicated
to
do
that.
So
I
think,
if
you
don't
mind,
we'll
get
back
to
you
with
additional
explanation
of
that.
Perhaps
some
additional
expert
explanation
of
the
actuarial
study,
if
you
would
like
we
can
follow
up
with
additional
information.
If
you
have
follow-up
questions.
Q
C
You
I
think
we
can
proceed.
Q
Right,
thank
you,
chair
jenkins,
so
next
slide.
Please.
L
L
L
L
It
doesn't
include
the
two
lawsuits
against
our
police
department
that
was
referenced
in
the
last
discussion
by
the
state
and
federal
governments.
L
So
I
think
it
is
worth
pausing
and
just
understanding
and
taking
in
the
amount
of
financial
risk
that
we
are
carrying
related
to
potential
lawsuits
or
lawsuits
that
are
pending
and
thinking
about
it
in
terms
of
our
2022
and
beyond
budget,
because
we
are
also
facing
financial
uncertainty
related
to
revenue
from
sales
tax,
from
hotel
tax
from
covid
recovery
from
cobit
expenses,
and
it's
just
it's
more
financial
risk
than
I
think
most
people
who
are
in
office
today
are
used
to
having
there's.
L
Maybe
a
couple
council
members
left
who
were
in
office
during
you
know
when
the
state
was
cutting
back
refunding
the
city
on
our
our
local
government
aid
when
there
were
significant
property
tax
increases
at
the
same
time
that
there
were
significant
cuts
in
public
services,
but
that's
not
something
we've
faced,
though,
in
the
last
you
know
eight
years
or
so
until
covid.
So
I
don't.
I
just
think
it's
just
worth.
Q
All
right,
thank
you.
I
will
continue
and
wrap
up
our
assassin.
C
C
Q
Q
A
little
bit
yeah,
madam
true
jenkins.
Yes,
these
roll
into
part
of
the
csl,
the
the
base
service
level.
That
departments
have-
and
I
know
we
have
some
ongoing
budget
discussions.
So
I
think
that's
a
much
broader
topic
that
you
raise
and
a
very
valid
question.
That
is
more
of
a
budgeting
question
and
how
we
wrap
those
additional
charges
in
and
what
the
offsets
are.
I
think
that's
what
you're
getting
too
is,
if
there's
an
additional
cost
in
the
department.
Q
What
is
that
department
reducing
in
order
to
make
that
make
up
that
difference
and
right
now
our
budget
system
works
a
little
differently
than
that.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
propose
that,
as
we
are,
are
having
these
conversations
as
a
finance
staff
that
we
come
back
with
additional
information,
because
I
think
that's
a
much
longer
and
deeper
discussion.
But
it's
a
very
valid
question
and
thank
you
for
raising
that.
C
Agreed
it
is
a
a
much
longer
structural
issue
that,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
discuss
it
moving
forward.
Q
Agreed
I
agreed,
and
I
I
will
wrap
it
then
we'll
stand
for
any
additional
questions
you
have.
I
want
to
really
focus
again
on
the
the
financial
planning,
because
this
is
important.
There
are
outstanding
liabilities.
There
are
things
that
we
can't.
We
just
can't
estimate
at
this
point.
We
talked
about
the
doj
investigation,
some
other
things.
We
don't
know
what
those
are,
but
we
keep.
What
we
can
do
is
plan
and
that's
what
we
try
to
do
very
diligently,
so
claims
are
paid
over
time.
As
we
talked
about
earlier.
Q
Cash
flow
is
of
most
importance
for
us.
Settlements
are
also
paid
over
multiple
years.
Emily
and
her
team
have
done
a
great
job
of
negotiating,
so
we're
not
paying
all
those
upfront
which
is
typical.
So
we
have
many
of
those
that
go
out
four
years
that
not
only
does
that
help
our
cash
flow,
but
it
helps
us
change
our
allocation
model
so
that
we
can
build
those
in
and
have
the
cash
available
again.
Q
Budgets
to
departments
are
adjusted
annually
and
obviously
we
have
more
discussion
to
have
about
that
and
how
that
affects
the
department's
other
expenditures.
We
have
long-range
planning
planning
done
annually,
with
consideration
of
claim
volume
and
cost.
So
we
look
at
this
to
say
what
happened
last
year,
that
we
didn't
anticipate.
What
do
we
think
might
be
coming?
How
do
we
need
to
adjust
and
maybe
we
need
to
make
a
transfer?
I
know
we've
talked
about
a
one-time
transfer,
but
in
the
future
we
may
need
additional
transfers.
Q
We
hope
we've
provided
some
information
about
claim
trends,
how
we
look
at
this
from
a
financial
perspective
and
the
seriousness
we
apply
to
both
the
claims
themselves
and
the
financial
planning
that
goes
into
it,
we're
happy
to
follow
up
with
questions
and
also
to
come
back
with
additional
information
or
presentations
as
you
wish.
So
thank
you
very
much.
C
And
thank
you,
miss
johnson
and
miss
colby.
Are
there
additional
questions?
Council
president
bender.
L
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
know
I
have
a
lot
of
questions.
I
think
this
is
so
important,
though
I
I
think
so.
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
the
focus
here
has
been
on
the
self-insurance
fund
and
on
the
paying
for
legal
settlements.
L
L
I
still
to
be
honest,
don't
understand
how
our
police
department
can
be
down
one-third,
a
staff
level
and
still
have
a
higher
budget
than
it
did
when
we
had
more
staff.
So
I
know
that
there
are
carrying
costs
related
to
times
when
folks
are
on
leave
before
they
are
that
we
have
a
settlement
for
workers
compensation.
L
I
know
there's
increased
overtime
and
other
expenses,
but
we're
paying
significantly
more
money
for
few
significantly
fewer
staff
than
in
past
years,
but
like
by
many
many
millions,
tens
of
millions,
and
so
I
just
yeah
any
information
now
or
in
the
future
that
so
we
can
understand
how
that
tale
or
the
lead-up
period
is
being
budgeted
both
in
this
year's
budget,
but
also
in
future
budgets.
Q
Certainly
chair
jenkinson
council
president
bender,
that's
kind
of
a
complex
issue
and
you're
right.
The
depart
the
departments
do
take
on
that,
some
time
leading
up
to
the
workers,
compensation
claim
and
because
that's
a
relatively
lengthy
conversation
in
and
of
itself.
If
you
don't
mind,
we'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
get
all
of
the
the
details
down
about
that
and
provide
it
to
you
at
a
future
date,
just
the
the
complexity
of
it.
We
also
have
not
talked
about
the
continuation
of
insurance.
Q
That's
tied
to
this
there's
so
many
different
things
tied
to
this,
and
it
is
so
complex.
As
I
said
at
the
start,
we
could
talk
about
this
for
hours,
partly
because
emily
and
I
deal
with
it
all
the
time
and
and
find
it
very
important
as
well,
but
I
know
you
have
other
items.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
we
will
get
back
to
you
with
additional
information
on
the
duty,
disability
and
leave
charges
and
how
those
are
allocated
to
the
police,
department
or
workers
compensation
fund.
C
I
will
just
know
like
this
is
a
really
challenging
issue.
I
had
a
briefing
on
it
early
monday
morning.
I
think
it
was
my
first
meeting
of
the
week
and
it
was
pretty
challenging
to
to
hear
this
information,
but
it
it
points
to
the
very
real
structural
issues
that
we
have.
The
very
real
challenges
that
are
are
facing
the
city
and
our
budget,
and
I
want
to
thank
council
president
bender
for
continuously
highlighting
this
issue
and
stressing
the
importance
of
it.
C
So
without
any
further
questions
or
comments
from
my
colleagues,
I
will
just
express
my
gratitude
to
you,
ms
johnson
and
ms
colby,
once
again
and
all
the
effort
that
went
into
this
work
and
this
presentation,
and
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
file
this
report.
C
Which
is
item
number
20,
and
I
know
we've
had
some
community
members
that
have
been
waiting
to
be
a
part
of
this
presentation.
So
I
do
apologize
for
the
length
of
our
discussions,
but
I
will
invite
ms
michelle
rivero
from
the
neighborhood
and
community
relations
department
to
give
us
an
update
on
the
office
of
immigrant
and
refugee
affairs.
S
Thank
you
so
much
council
chair,
madam
chair
jenkins,
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today
and
fellow
council
members.
My
name
is
michelle
rivero,
I'm
the
director
of
the
office
of
immigrant
and
refugee
affairs
or
oira,
which
is
housed
in
the
neighborhood
and
community
relations
department
or
ncr
next
slide.
Please.
S
Today's
immigration
focus
presentation
will
address
three
topics:
first,
immigration,
developments
relating
to
the
expulsion
of
haitians
and
other
black
migrants
on
our
southern
border
and
the
relocation
of
african
of
afghan.
Forgive
me
evacuees
to
the
united
states,
including
in
minnesota.
S
Second,
an
update
on
progress
on
the
march
2021
staff
council
staff
direction
relating
to
city
work
impacting
immigrant
and
refugee
residents,
including
how
the
gateways
for
growth
initiative
supports
this
council
direction
and
third,
a
presentation
by
representing
representatives
of
our
immigration
legal
service
provider,
partners
who
are
with
us
today
who
will
address
the
impact
of
city,
support
of
access
to
council
in
immigration
matters
on
city
residents,
I'll
ask
the
council
to
receive
and
file
the
powerpoint
for
this
presentation,
as
well
as
the
immigration
legal
services
summary
report
for
2020
next
slide.
Please.
S
So
I'll
first
address
the
topic
of
expulsion
of
haitians
and
additional
black
migrants
from
the
southern
border.
Over
the
past
weeks,
migrants
from
haiti
and
additional
nations
had
congregated
at
a
makeshift
camp
in
del
rio,
texas,
some
making
the
journey
through
eight
countries
to
reach
the
united
states.
This
camp
has
been
forcibly
emptied
by
the
united
states
border
patrol
agents
in
september,
with
an
estimated
5500
people
returned
to
haiti
on
multiple
daily
flights.
S
Recent
images,
such
as
the
one
in
this
slide
and
video
of
border
patrol
agents
on
horseback,
acting
aggressively
and
violently
towards
these
migrants,
including
asylum
seekers,
have
inspired
outrage
and
highlighted
the
cruelty
and
reality
of
our
government's
actions
towards
black
migrants
generally
and
haitian
migrants.
Specifically,
haiti
has
experienced
recent
and
severe
destabilization
with
the
assassination
of
the
president
of
the
country,
hogan
el
mois
in
july,
and
an
earthquake
in
august
of
this
year.
S
Earlier
this
year
in
may,
the
biden
administration
had
granted
temporary
protected
status,
a
short-term
authorization
to
live
and
work
in
the
u.s
for
haitian
nationals,
who
are
already
here,
demonstrating
our
government's
recognition
back
in
may
that
the
level
of
instability
and
disruption
in
haiti
made
it
unsafe
to
return
there.
And
yet
these
forcible
returns
have
been
justified.
S
Some
on
immigration
grounds
under
title
8
and
many
based
upon
title
42.,
a
trump-era
order
issued
by
the
center
for
disease
control
pursuant
to
title
42
u.s
code,
section
265
allows
the
government
to
essentially
close
our
borders
to
migrants
and
prospective
asylum
seekers
on
public
health
grounds,
while
public
health
experts
have
objected
to
the
ban,
it
remains
in
place
under
the
biden.
Administration
is
a
basis
for
preventing
entry
of
migrants
and
asylum
seekers,
with
an
exception
for
unaccompanied
children.
S
S
It's
important
to
note
that
advocates
are
calling
on
the
biden
administration
to
take
the
following.
Immediate
actions
revoke
the
title.
42
order
grant
humanitarian
parole
for
haitians,
protect
the
right
of
haitians
and
other
black
migrants
to
seek
asylum,
while
in
the
u.s
and
halt
the
process
of
metering,
which
is
a
practice
that
began
during
the
byte
administration
and
was
significantly
ramped
up
during
the
trump
administration
where
people
are
physically
prevented
from
claiming
asylum
at
the
port
of
entry
to
the
united
states
and
are
forced
to
wait
in
mexico.
S
The
next
subject,
I'd
like
to
address
is
afghanistan
and
our
country's
plan
to
resettle
afghan
nationals
in
the
united
states.
Next
slide,
please,
in
an
initiative
entitled
operation
allies,
welcome.
The
united
states
has
committed
to
relocating
in
this
country,
vulnerable
afghan
nationals,
including
those
who
worked
alongside
u.s
troops
in
afghanistan
for
the
past
two
decades.
If
I
could,
could
you
advance
to
the
next
slide?
Please,
I
think
that
there
might
be
a
little
bit.
I
might
have
flipped
the
two
slides
oop
nope
go
back.
I
see
that
there's
one
missing
I'll,
just
talk
through
it.
S
S
S
I'm
typing
in
afghan
evacuees
into
that
website.
We'd
also
like
to
report
that
the
office
of
immigrant
refugee
affairs
is
working
with
minneapolis
city
staff
across
the
enterprise
to
coordinate
and
identify
immediate
or
long-term
needs,
so
that
we
are
well
positioned
to
extend
welcome
to
our
incoming
afghan
community
here
in
minneapolis.
S
S
Oops,
I'm
sorry,
could
you
go
back
to
the
last
slide?
Forgive
me
I'm
sorry,
thank
you.
So
I've
included
some
links
with
details
for
individuals
interested
in
offering
assistance
and
learning
more.
This
information
is
also
available
on
the
state
website
at
mn.gov
next
slide.
Please.
C
Mr
rivera
before
you
continue,
I
think
we
have
a
question
from
council
president
bender
and
my
mistaken,
or
was
this
from
the
last
conversation?
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity.
If
you
have
a
question.
C
Maybe
not
please
go
on
with
your
next
slide.
S
S
Next,
I
would
like
to
offer
a
brief
update
regarding
the
council's
march
2021
staff
direction,
which
instructed
oira
and
ncr
to
lead
an
enterprise-wide
assessment
of
city
work,
both
internal
and
external,
touching
immigrant
and
refugee
residents.
That
would
include
an
analysis
of
strengths,
weaknesses,
opportunities
and
threats
and
offer
recommendations
for
improvements
to
council.
The
initial
direction
instructed
a
report
back
with
completed
recommendations
by
the
end
of
september
of
this
year.
S
So
progress
to
date
has
included
the
development
of
a
preliminary
inventory
of
city
work
touching
immigrant
and
refugee
residents
through
initial
meetings
with
staff
from
the
city,
attorney's
office,
the
coordinator's
office,
communications,
health,
minneapolis,
police
department,
civil
rights,
the
city
clerk's
office,
ncr,
the
division
of
race
and
equity
and
regulatory
services
and
including
council
staff
from
the
offices
of
council
member
osman
encano.
S
This
inventory
formed
the
basis
which
was
used
in
completion
of
the
swot
analysis,
which
was
facilitated
with
the
assistance
of
tom,
kern
and
human
resources.
The
results
of
this
analysis
have
been
incorporated
into
the
initial
draft
recommendations,
the
form
part
of
the
gateways
for
growth
initiative,
which
I'll
address
in
a
moment.
S
S
Given
the
alignment
between
the
staff
direction
and
the
engagement
work
underway,
pursuant
to
the
gateways
for
growth
initiative,
I'd
respectfully
propose
a
report
back
to
council
by
the
end
of
january
2022,
with
an
update
that
has
the
benefit
of
robust
internal
and
external
engagement
and
incorporates
this
engagement
in
a
comprehensive
recommendations.
Report
that
accomplishes
the
intent
of
the
staff
direction,
as
well
as
the
gateways
for
growth
initiative.
S
S
Representatives
from
our
immigration
legal
service
providers,
including
mid-minnesota
legal
aid,
which
was
added
as
a
partner
this
year
in
2021,
are
here
to
share
context
on
the
needs
and
community
and
impact
of
access
to
competent
immigration.
Legal
services.
The
additional
presentators
who
are
with
us
today
are
vena
ire
from
the
immigrant
law
center
of
minnesota.
S
Sarah
brennis
from
the
advocates
for
human
rights,
colleen
bibi
from
volunteer
lawyers
network
and
allison
olsen
cox
from
mid-minnesota
legal
aid.
One
additional
speaker
community
member
daniel
perez
will
also
share
how
accessing
free
immigration,
legal
services
impacted
his
life
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I've
asked
these
speakers
hand
the
mic
one
to
the
next
so
that
as
they
move
through,
they
move
through
the
presentation
as
efficiently
as
possible.
If
that's
acceptable,.
C
Oh
great-
and
I
do
want
to
just
thank
our
community
members
and
organizational
representatives
for
their
patience
in
this
committee
meeting
today.
C
T
T
Much
chair
jenkins
and
miss
rivero
for
having
us
here
today.
Actually
we
will
start
our
presentation
by
turning
it
over
to
our
former
client
daniel
perez,
who
will
be
sharing
his
story
and
the
difference
that
access
to
legal
services
made
for
him
I'll
then
speak
for
a
little
bit
after
that.
U
My
name
is
daniel
perez
ampado.
I
currently
live
in
minneapolis
and
own
a
home
in
the
whittier
neighborhood,
which
is
in
ward
10..
I'm
a
husband,
I'm
a
dad
of
two
amazing
boys
and
a
bilingual
school
social
worker
at
an
elementary
school
in
minneapolis
public
schools,
I'm
also
an
immigrant
from
mexico.
U
We
established
ourselves
in
st
louis
park
and
I
attended
and
graduated
from
st
louisville
high
school.
I
then
went
to
college
to
normandale
community
college
and
eventually
to
the
university
of
minnesota
for
a
bachelor's
and
two
master's
degrees,
and
although
I
can
say
that
I'm
living
my
best
life
now
that
wasn't
always
the
case
and
wouldn't
have
been
the
case
without
ilcm
and
my
former
immigration
lawyer
carolina
when
deferred
action
for
childhood
arrivals,
the
executive
program,
better
known
as
daca,
was
created
by
president
ex-president
barack
obama.
U
U
Thankfully
john
keller,
the
former
executive
director
of
ilcm,
provided
me,
provided
me
with
free
legal
assistance
to
obtain
daca,
and
so
you
see
ilcm
and
daca
changed
my
life
for
the
better
and
forever.
I
was
able
to
obtain
a
social
security
number
a
driver's
license
and
have
access
to
funding
opportunities
to
complete
my
studies.
U
So
I
hired
carolina
to
renew
my
daca
and
eventually
file
paperwork
to
become
a
u.s
citizen
and
I
did
become
a
u.s
citizen
on
september,
4th
2019,
but
I
want
to
emphasize
that
ilcm
and
organizations
like
ilcm
not
been
around
my
story
would
not
be
what
it
is
today
as
a
school
social
worker.
I
work
with
countless
families
and
youth
who
are
in
need
of
legal
services
and
advocacy.
U
U
U
Thus,
it
is
pivotal
that
minneapolis
invests
in
providing
legal
services
for
immigrants
and
refugees,
because
we
must
remember
that
in
our
collective
fight
against
white
supremacy
and
racism
and
xenophobia
and
all
systems
of
oppression,
no
one-
and
I
say
no
one-
should
be
left
behind,
and
that
includes
our
immigrant
neighbors
friends
and
community
members.
Thank
you.
C
Testimony
and
and
sharing
your
story
and
for
the
contributions
that
you
are
making
to
this
community.
T
T
That
said
today,
I'm
going
to
specifically
focus
my
remarks
on
our
work
with
daca
recipients.
T
Next
slide,
please,
as
many
of
you
know,
and
as
daniel
very
eloquently
described,
daca
has
literally
been
a
lifeline
for
hundreds
of
thousands
of
young
immigrants
here
in
the
united
states,
who,
because
of
the
program,
can
stay
without
fear
of
deportation
and
can
work
lawfully,
but
daca
is
not
perfect.
Daca
is
not
a
permanent
status
and,
in
fact,
for
most
folks,
it's
limbo,
unlike
daniel
most
daca
recipients,
do
not
have
a
way
to
obtain
a
green
card
or
citizenship.
T
Instead,
they
have
to
apply
every
two
years
in
order
to
renew
their
daca
status,
and
what
does
that
mean
for
folks?
What
does
getting
you
know
having
to
do
that?
Every
two
years
means
well,
first
of
all,
it
means
having
to
pay
495
dollars
in
fees
every
two
years.
It
also
means
that,
let's
say
in
the
last
two
years,
you
had
a
traffic
stop
or
something
that
was
just
minor.
You
have
a
fear
of
whether
that
traffic
stop
could
somehow
affect
your
daca
status.
Could
it
affect
you
being
able
to
renew
your
daca?
T
That
said,
daca
has
had
a
significant
impact
here
in
minneapolis,
as
you
can
see
from
the
slide
there's
more
than
sixteen
hundred
minneapolitans
who
either
are,
who
are
daca
eligible,
so
that
means
that
they
either
have
daca
or
they're
currently
eligible
for
daca
of
those
individuals.
Ilcm,
assisted
57
of
those
miniatures
would
renewing
their
daca
status
in
2020,
and
we
were
also
able
to
assist
six
minneapolis
to
file
initial
daca
applications
at
the
end
of
the
year.
T
T
There
was
a
short
period
of
time
between
the
end
of
last
year
and
this
july,
when
initial
applications
could
finally
be
accepted
again,
and
we
were
assisting
folks
with
that,
unfortunately,
because
of
a
court
decision
in
texas
that
you
likely
have
heard
of
initial
applications
once
again
have
been
stopped,
and
so
again
we
have
a
significant
number
of
million
politicians
and
young
people
across
the
country
right
now
who
absolutely
meet
the
eligibility
requirements
for
having
finished
finished,
finished
high
school,
been
here
for
long
enough
and
either
enrolled
in
post-secondary
education
or
in
the
military,
but
cannot
apply
for
daca,
because
initial
applications
are
not
being
accepted
right
now.
T
T
As
you
can
see
here,
state
and
local
taxes
generated
by
minnesota's
daca
holders
are
at
30
over
30
million
spending
power
over
230
million
and
just
and
houses
owned
by
minnesotan
daca
holders
number
300.,
so
there's
a
significant
positive
impact
of
daca
and
where
we
are
at
right
now,
as
you
likely
know,
there
are
large
long
discussions
happening
in
washington
about
a
pathway
to
citizenship
which
absolutely
needs
to
pass.
T
T
C
V
Thank
you.
Thank
you
veena.
My
name
is
sarah
brenes
and
I'm
the
director
of
the
refugee
and
immigrants
for
human
rights
for
nearly
40
years.
The
advocates
for
human
rights
has
been
based
in
minneapolis
and
striving
toward
its
mission
to
implement
international
human
rights
standards
to
promote
civil
society
and
reinforce
the
rule
of
law.
We
include
volunteers
in
all
aspects
of
our
work,
as
we
do
research,
education
and
advocacy
to
envision
a
world
in
which
every
person
lives
with
dignity,
freedom,
equality,
justice
and
peace.
V
V
Primary
among
them
are
asylum
seekers,
human
trafficking,
survivors,
unaccompanied
children
and
detained
immigrants.
At
this
moment,
refugees
and
migrants
from
afghanistan
and
haiti
are
front
page
news.
As
michelle
mentioned,
minnesota
service
providers
are
coordinating
to
receive
approximately
500
afghan
evacuees
over
the
next
few
months
next
week.
The
advocates
for
human
rights
is
launching
a
legal
clinic
at
the
welcoming
centers
to
provide
consultations
to
afghan
evacuees,
to
assess
their
long-term
options
to
secure
immigration
status
in
the
united
states.
V
Minnesota
is
a
community
of
asylees
and
refugees
in
the
united
states,
with
only
2
percent
of
the
nation's
population.
Minnesota
has
13
percent
of
its
refugees,
the
highest
number
per
per
capita
nationwide,
and
since
1979
over
100
000
refugees
have
resettled
in
minnesota,
and
since
2015
alone,
1
345
refugees
have
resettled
in
hennepin
county
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
decades.
The
afghan
individuals
and
families
seeking
services
will
be
woven
into
our
communities.
Much
like
the
hmong
somali
liberian
and
korean
refugees
before
them.
V
V
The
advocates
has
nearly
four
decades
of
experience,
providing
legal
services
to
individuals,
fleeing
human
rights
abuses
and
looking
for
a
safe
future
in
the
us
in
2020,
the
advocates
provided
extended
representation
and
asylum
claims
for
nearly
200
minneapolis
residents
from
over
45
different
countries
in
over
20
percent
of
the
cases,
clients
were
under
the
age
of
18
when
they
arrived
in
the
u.s
one.
Such
child
is
miss
a
before
coming
to
the
u.s
she
lived
in
el
salvador
within
an
aunt
who
was
physically
abused
supporter.
V
She
was
able
to
take
advantage
of
a
program
that
allowed
unaccompanied
children
and
youth
who
had
relatives
parents
in
the
united
states
with
status
to
have
a
refugee
interview
at
the
u.s
consulate
there.
Unfortunately,
her
aunt
was
in
the
interview
with
her,
and
so
she
was
not
given
refugee
status.
Instead,
she
was
given
a
provisional
status,
much
like
the
afghan
evacuees
and
was
allowed
to
be
paroled
into
the
united
states.
V
V
Miss
a
is
not
alone
in
her
need
for
legal
services.
One
of
the
most
vulnerable
groups
of
asylum
seekers
are
unaccompanied
children.
Since
2015
over
2
500,
unaccompanied
children
have
had
to
flee
central
america
and
were
released
to
sponsors
in
minnesota.
There
have
been
850
children
released
to
sponsors
in
minnesota
in
the
last
year
alone.
V
One
quarter
of
these
children
are
now
residents
of
hennepin
county,
as
with
all
children
in
our
community.
In
order
to
help
ensure
these
children
have
their
best
chance
at
a
bright
future.
We
must
work
cross-sector
to
support
their
schooling,
health
and
basic
needs,
but,
unlike
their
u.s
born
classmates,
they
must
navigate
a
complex
labyrinth
of
immigration
laws
to
secure
their
legal
status
and,
in
contrast
to
dreamers,
who've
been
in
the
u.s
since
they
were
children.
Many
of
these
unaccompanied
children
were
immediately
placed
into
deportation
proceedings
upon
arrival.
E
Thank
you
vice
president
jenkins
and
the
policy
and
government
oversight
committee,
I'm
colleen
bibi
purisaka
an
immigration
attorney
for
over
25
years
now
and
manager
of
the
immigrant
legal
services
program
of
the
volunteer
lawyers
network.
I
also
live
in
ward
9
in
minneapolis
vln
began,
providing
free
civil
legal
services
through
volunteer
attorneys
in
hennepin
county
in
1966..
E
E
As
immigration
legal
service
providers,
whenever
there
are
developments
in
immigration,
laws
and
policies,
we
really
need
to
respond
in
2020
newly
enacted,
liberian
refugee
immigration.
Fairness
legislation
on
the
federal
level,
of
course,
created
a
need
to
help
liberians
apply
for
permanent
status
in
the
u.s,
so
vln
and
other
legal
service
providers.
We
responded.
E
She
has
three
u.s
citizen
children
and
has
lived
here
for
decades,
but
with
one
of
these
temporary
permissions
and
really
had
no
hope
of
obtaining
a
permanent
status
and
was
facing
imminent
forced
return
to
liberia
until
this
law
passed
at
the
end
of
2019..
E
The
law
recognizes
the
historic
ties
liberians
have
with
the
u.s
and
that
there
are
thousands
of
liberians
here
who
need
to
stabilize
their
status.
They'd
been
living
in
limbo,
as
venus
mentioned
some
for
decades,
like
ruth
liberians.
Living
among
us
have
strong
ties
to
local
communities,
contribute
to
and
are
often
the
backbone
of
certain
industries
and
have
raised
their
families
in
the
u.s.
E
In
minneapolis
alone,
there
are
about
10
500
immigrants,
who
are
likely
eligible
to
apply
for
u.s
citizenship
right
now,
right
now
and
each
legal
office
legal
aid
office
that
is
here,
including
vlan,
helps
people
apply
for
citizenship.
But
we
really
cannot
meet
the
entire
need.
In
fact,
a
conservative
estimate
of
the
value
of
comprehensive
legal
services
for
those
10
500
people
would
well
be
over
five
million
dollars,
and
it's
really
all
of
our
benefit
to
ensure
those
eligible
to
apply
for
citizenship
can
do
so.
E
E
W
Today
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
about
our
work
and
the
need
for
immigration
or
I'm
sorry,
immigrant
legal
defense,
as
mentioned
before
my
name,
is
alison
olsen
cox,
I'm
the
managing
attorney
of
mid-minnesota
legal
aid
in
the
immigration
unit,
which
is
located
in
our
downtown
minneapolis
office.
We
represent
individuals,
low-income
individuals
residing
in
anoka
and
hennepin
county
with
civil
legal
service
matters,
including
immigration,
which
was
has
been
a
part
of
the
minnesota
legal
aid.
Since
2001.
W
we
handled
just
like
my
colleagues
who
have
previously
spoken,
we
handle
a
wide
range
of
cases
and
many
of
those
cases
are
for
minneapolis
residents.
I'm
currently
I
just
looked,
and
we
have
50
over
1500,
open
immigration,
cases
for
residents
of
minneapolis
and
227
of
those
are
court
cases.
W
So
immigrants
facing
deportation
do
not
have
the
right
to
lawyers,
even
if
they
can't
afford
one
so
without
and
without
legal
representation,
immigrants
and
their
families
are
left
unable
to
effectively
advocate
for
themselves
nationally.
We
see
that
individuals
in
in
immigration
proceedings
in
court
win
about
five
percent
of
cases
of
of
the
cases,
and
the
number
increases
dramatically
to
37
of
success
rate
when
somebody
has
representation,
so
that
increase
is
huge
and
we
see
that
locally
as
well
and
speaking
of
local
numbers.
W
So
as
of
august
2021,
there
were
over
16
000
pending
deportation
cases
at
fort
snelling,
and
we
estimate
that
about
2.
000
of
those
cases
are
for
residents
of
minneapolis
and
those
are
huge
numbers
in
themselves.
W
But
when
you
think
about
the
in
the
specific
individuals
and
then
their
families
and
the
communities
and
the
neighborhoods
that
are
impacted
when
somebody
is
in
removal
of
facing
deportation
is
is
just
is
too
much,
and
so
we
need
community
support
for
these
people,
and
so
these
cases
are
also
very
complex
and
broad,
and
I
want
to
talk
about
one
of
our
clients
who
we
first
met.
While
he
attended
high
school
in
minneapolis,
we
assisted
him
in
filing
a
daca
application
in,
I
think
2015..
W
W
So
this
case
was
long
and
complex
and
intense
and
heart-wrenching
and
and
and
we
handle
all
of
it
at
mla-
and
this
also
brings
me
to
another-
you
know
cases
that's
pending
now
of
an
individual
who
entered
the
united
states
as
a
refugee.
W
He
gained
his
permanent
residency,
he
was
had
a
family
and
was
was
struggling
as
well.
He
struggled
with
drug
and
alcohol
addiction,
housing,
insecurity
and
homelessness,
and,
and
he
also
had
some
some
criminal
convictions
as
a
result
of
this
instability,
we
represented
him
first
in
removal
proceedings
where
we
won
relief
for
him,
but
then
the
government
appealed
that
decision.
It
went
up
to
the
higher
court
who
sided
with
the
government.
W
Then
we
had
the
immigration
judge
here
then
had
to
rule
on
a
different
kind
of
relief
which
was
granted,
and
then
the
government
appealed
again,
and
so
now
we
are
in
the
middle
of
a
case
that
has
been
appealed
twice
by
the
government.
We
have
done
a
petition
to
get
him
out
of
detention
because
of
certain
because
of
cobit
and
other
situations,
and
so
that
case
not
only
has
it
been
a
complex
and
difficult
area
of
law,
but
it
has
also
been
a
test
of
the
community.
W
Every
individual
case
is
so
different,
and
so
just
in
closing,
with
those
examples,
and
also
just
what
what
we've
been
hearing
from
my
colleagues
is
that
immigrant
legal
defense
work
ensures
that
immigrants
caught
up
in
the
deportation
system,
who
are
primarily
immigrants
of
color,
receive
high
quality
advocacy
to
defend
themselves
against
deportation
proceedings
under
these
draconian
immigration
laws
that
have
also
or
that
have
also
often
based
the
the
reasons
for
deportation
on
a
bias
criminal
justice
system.
W
S
C
Thank
you,
ms
rivero,
and
I
and
all
of
the
presenters
and
community-based
organizations
that
are
providing
these
legal
services
and
assistance
to
immigrants
coming
to
our
communities
in
our
communities
and
and
really
highlighting
the
broad
nature
of
these
challenges.
I
do
want
to
just
note
in
your
presentation.
X
Chair
jenkins,
I
I
think
if,
if
the,
if
the,
if
the
desire
is
to
have
the
deadline
extended,
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
for
someone
to
make
a
motion
and
and
have
the
body
approve
it.
P
C
Thank
you.
I
will
ask
if
there
is
no
discussion,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll
any
thoughts.
C
D
D
I
C
C
C
So
that
request
is
granted
and
once
again
thank
you,
ms
rovero,
for
that
very
thorough
and
detailed
report,
and
as
well
as
all
of
the
community-based
organizations
and
immigrants
that
have
been
impacted
by
this
work
and
and
the
stories
that
we
heard
from
each
of
the
organizations
regarding
immigrant.
C
Little
council,
member
promising,
you
are
not
muted.
C
You're
very
welcome
colleagues,
we
have
one
last
item
on
our
discussion
agenda
and
that
is
the
item.
Number
21
is
a
report
back
from
staff
on
the
hiawatha
maintenance
facility
campus
expansion.
C
I
I
do
want
to
just
offer
my
appreciation
for
staff
waiting
to
do
this
presentation,
recognizing
that
you've
been
on
the
call
for
a
couple
of
very
long
discussion
items,
and
if
people
were
at
pogo,
I
think
we
anticipated
having
a
very
robust
meeting
this
afternoon.
We
we
talked
about
it,
but
again,
thank
you
for
your
patience.
Y
Thank
you,
chair
jenkins,
council.
Vice
president
and
committee
members.
I
am
brett
jelly,
the
interim
director
of
public
works,
and
yes
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
I
was
planning
to
be
here
for
a
little
while
and
and
happy
to
make
this
presentation,
as
I
this
group
was
here
two
weeks
ago.
I
will
try
not
to
repeat
myself
too
much.
Y
Y
As
I've
noted
before
the
project
does
have
a
a
lengthy
history
and,
most
recently
on
september
22nd,
this
committee
approved
staff
direction.
That
stated,
I
will
summarize
the
staff
direction
here
to
move
forward
with
option
b,
as
presented
at
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
on
august
5th
by
continuing
the
hiawatha
campus
expansion,
with
the
exception
of
the
outreach
and
training
facility
and
the
new
central
stores
building.
Y
So
this
action
was
referred
to
staff
to
complete
a
racial
equity
impact
analysis
and
the
fiscal
note,
and
so
the
staff
team
will
give
a
overview
of
the
changes
to
those
two
items.
They
are
in
some
ways
very
similar
to
what
was
presented
two
weeks
ago
with
some
revisions.
One
thing
I
want
to
note
is
we
loaded
a
revised
fiscal
note
today,
in
kind
of
our
last
minute
edits,
the
revised
one
was
not
loaded.
There
are
no
changes
to
the
numbers.
Y
It's
just
a
clarification
about
the
timing
of
the
repayment
to
the
water
fund
under
redevelopment
scenarios
as
I'll
cover
the
fiscal
note
and
then
hand
it
off
to
eric
hansen
to
talk
about
some
of
the
updated
holding
cost
information.
Y
As
we've
noted
in
previous
fiscal
notes,
water
revenues
are
to
be
used
for
water
expenses
and
abandoning
the
project
would
require
reimbursement
of
the
water
fund.
In
this
scenario,
where
a
majority
of
the
project
is
moving
forward,
the
amount
associated
with
approximate
the
approximate
three
acres
that
would
be
set
aside
for
potential
redevelopment
is
three
and
a
half
million
dollars.
The
timing
of
that
repayment
is
dependent
on
the
redevelopment
plan
and
the
sale
of
the
property
which
could
be
used
to
repay
the
water
fund.
Y
So
that's
really
the
the
change
between
the
previous
fiscal
note
in
this
one,
and
we
are
this
updated
fiscal
note,
and
I've
turned
it
over
to
eric
hanson
to
give
an
overview
of
the
updated
holding
cost
information.
P
God's
vice
president
jenkins,
members
of
the
committee,
eric
hanson
economic
development
director
and
updates
to
the
fiscal
note
related
to
holding
costs
narrow
from
four
options
to
three
from
the
last
proposal
and
there's
some
overarching
costs
that
are
subject
to
all
three
of
those
options.
That'll
get
those
options
so
the
ultimate
at
the
ultimate
point
of
the
disposition,
either
through
a
land,
sale
or
a
land
land
lease.
P
All
those
proceeds
would
have
to
go
and
reimburse
the
water
fund,
and,
if
we're
unable
to
meet
the
3.5
million
allocation
for
that
site,
the
city
would
have
to
find
funds
to
cover
that.
But
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
time
allowance
for
this
approach.
Considering
most
of
the
waterfront
or
most
of
the
water
yard
is
being
constructed.
P
P
Indeed,
for
this
property,
because
this
would
be
a
combination
of
a
portion
of
one
property
and
combining
it
with
a
second
pid,
and
we
estimate
that
annual
general
property
maintenance
costs
will
be
about
45
thousand
dollars
for
each
option
that
we
have
in
the
fiscal
mode,
and
so
those
options
are
as
follows.
First,
we
can
just
declare
this
is
surplus
property.
P
We
could
probably
make
somewhere
between
six
hundred
and
two
and
six
hundred
thousand
and
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
land
sale
proceeds
as
we
discussed
the
last
time
we
were
talking
about
this.
This
is
an
as
is
sale,
it's
surplus
property
you
do
by
bid
and
the
only
control
the
city
would
have
over.
The
ultimate
redevelopment
is
through
its
land
use
entitlement
processes
through
the
planning
commission
in
the
city
council
and
then
the
other
two
development.
P
The
other
two
options
for
disposition
are
using
the
redevelopment
authority.
One
is
a
low
maintenance
approach,
given
the
fact
that
this
site
is
mostly
a
bituminous
cover
and
our
property
services
has
mentioned
that
there
they
haven't,
found
a
lot
of
existing
contamination.
Now
you
will
only
know
how
much
contamination
is
under
the
bituminous
parking
lot
once
you
start,
you
know
really
excavating
it,
but
the
parking
lot
acts
as
kind
of
a
cover
and
a
cap.
P
So
that's
probably
the
most
likely
scenario.
You
just
keep
it
capped
until
you
have
a
redevelopment
and
then
you'd
have
the
maintenance
costs,
but
you
wouldn't
have
some
additional
costs.
The
other
option
is
to
actually
remove
that
cap
clean
up
the
land
and
that
would
come
with
some
costs
and
we
haven't
estimated
that,
because
we'd
have
to
do
more
investigation
and
honestly,
the
the
staff
would
probably
give
you
a
recommendation.
P
At
least
I
would
give
you
a
recommendation
to
go
with
the
low
maintenance
option,
because
once
you
have
a
development
concept,
that's
the
time
to
do
the
clean
up
and
the
main
and
the
removal-
and
it's
also
a
time
when
we
can
find
other
granting
agencies
to
help
us
with
environmental
remediation.
So
those
are
your
three
options
and,
given
time
of
the
day
I'll
stop
there
and
see.
If
there's
any
questions.
C
Thank
you.
There
was
a
question
in
the
chat,
I'm
not
sure
if
people
were
able
to
see
it,
but
I
mean
we
are
being
presented
with
a
lot
of
detailed
information.
Is
there
a
visual
representation
of
this
information
that
can
be
shared
with
the
committee
and
the
public.
Y
Manager,
committee
members-
we
have
probably
the
the
written
documentation-
that's
attached
to
the
agenda-
would
be
for
items
that
could
be
shown.
The
tech
team
is
able
to
do
that.
B
C
Well,
I
believe,
the
former
information
that.
Y
So,
council,
vice
president
I'll
just
note
that
the
first
section
repayment
of
the
water
works
fund
expense,
is
substantially
similar
to
the
previous
fiscal
note
and
with
the
updated
numbers
given
the
smaller
portion
of
property
and
then
on.
The
bottom
of
this
page
and
then
on
to
the
next
page,
is
the
is
the
holding
cost
information
that
was
shared
by
mr
hanson.
C
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
very
much
and
thank
you,
council
president
for
providing
the
link,
and
you
know
community
members
can
access
the
limbs
program
as
well,
and
so
are
we
moving
on
to
the
race
equity
impact
analysis.
Y
Us
council
vice
president,
I
will
introduce
our
sustainability
director
kim
heavy,
and
I
asked
the
tech
team
if
you're
able
to
bring
up
the
racial
equity
impact
analysis.
That
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council.
Vice
president
jenkins
and
council
members.
My
name
is
kim
havey
director
of
sustainability
here
at
the
city,
and
we've
been
working
with.
The
department
leads
on
this
project
to
assess
the
racial
equity
impact
analysis
and,
as
director
jelly
had
indicated,
much
of
the
information
that
we
have
here
is
similar
or
the
same
as
we
had
before.
A
So
I
will
kind
of
repeat
some
of
the
summary
components,
but
to
start
off
with,
I
just
wanted
to
make
clear
that
we
were
really
looking
at
with
this
racial
equity
impact
analysis,
only
the
sort
of
first
part
of
that
staff
direction,
which
looks
at
what
the
impacts
are
from
the
august
5th
option
b:
site
development.
So
it
doesn't
look
at
the
three
acre
component
at
this
point.
Certainly
can
look
at
that,
but
sort
of
left
that
out,
because
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty.
That's
related
to
that.
A
As
I
mentioned,
what
our
and
and
we've
got
quite
a
bit
of
information,
as
you
can
see
on
the
racial
equity,
you
can
skip
to
the
next
page
that
talks
about
the
components
of
this.
Those
are
all
staying
the
same.
The
operational
goals,
of
course,
workforce
goals.
One
of
the
things
that
is
different
is
answering
the
question
of
what's
the
desired
outcome
of
the
ordinance
amendment
or
policy.
A
So
that's
what
our
understanding
of
that
is
and
that's
sort
of
how
we
looked
at
what
the
impacts
are.
We
also
continue
to
have
the
racial
equity
impacts
we
kept
in
asthma
levels.
A
We
have
air
pollution
levels
that
are
included
in
here
and
by
census,
track
in
comparison
to
other,
more
white
neighborhoods
in
minneapolis
and,
as
you
know,
in
this
case,
we're
talking
a
neighborhood
of
about
72
percent
bypac
community
members,
so
looking
at
more
white
neighborhoods
or
looking
at
an
average
metropolitan
neighborhood,
the
census
tracts
around
this
particular
site
are
in
the
highest
10
percent
of
air
pollution
levels
for
pm,
2.5
and
other
emissions
levels.
A
So,
ultimately,
I'll
just
re
repeat
what
we've
had
in
the
summary
from
before
of
that
data,
which
is
actually
down
on
it,
is
I'm
sorry
I
wasn't
following
it's.
This
is
on
page
four,
I
believe,
no
page,
five
one
more
time.
A
Thank
you.
It's
at
the
top
there.
So
the
summary
of
the
data
indicates
that
the
residents
living
in
this
neighborhood
around
the
project
site,
which
has
a
majority
of
bipac
residents,
experience
much
higher
levels
of
cumulative
pollution
than
residents
from
majority
white
city
neighborhoods
and
the
average
metro
area
resident,
leading
to
hiring
and
the
average
metro
resident,
leading
to
higher
levels
of
asthma
and
hospitalization
for
children
and
adults
living
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
A
The
plans,
the
2040
and
green
zone
plans
were
generated
with
direction
input
from
residents
across
minneapolis,
including
many
in
east
phillips.
Next,
I'm
going
to
go
down
down
to
before.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
mr
havey
just
curious.
What
is
the
proper
way
to
measure
the
impact
of
what
is
the
proper
way
to
to
measure
the
impact
of
the
500
additional
trucks
and
vehicles
that
are
projected
to
be
added
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
in
the
ria?
F
And
so
my
understanding
is
that
you
know
right
now:
you're
laying
out
sort
of
the
status
of
the
community,
which
clearly
is
an
overpolluted
community,
a
classical
definition
of
environmental
racism,
and
so
you
know
you're
talking
about
how
they're,
in
the
top
10
percent
of
particulate
matter
in
the
state
you're
talking
about
how
you
know
this
community.
Has
you
know
majority
of
somali
latino,
african-american
indigenous
peoples
living
here.
F
What
is
going
to
be
the
impact
on
that
community
with
the
the
build
out
of
the
reich
amendment,
which
is
to
build
the
facility
and
bring
in
those
500
trucks,
in
addition
to
a
structured
parking
lamp
on
this
transit-oriented
development
site
like
how
are
we?
How
are
we
measuring
that
impact
or
anticipating
the
the
impact
of
that
of
that
future
projects?
A
Council
vice
president
jenkins
council
member
cano,
the
impact
of
those
additional
cars,
including
you
know,
particulate
matter
and
other
monitored
emissions
or
other
considered
to
be
harmful
emissions
or
regulated
emissions
are
detailed
for
the
overall
expansion
in
an
environmental
assessment
worksheet,
and
we
do
reference
that
within
the
racial
equity
impact
analysis.
A
We
also
put
together,
within
this
analysis
a
little
bit
further
down
reference
to
the
increasing
in
car
traffic
and
how
that
would
have
a
negative
impact.
You
know
in
in
racial
equity.
Analysis
of
a
community
like
this
with
this
conditions,
would
have
additional
impact
because
there
are
additional
cars
that
are
going
there,
so
we
do
go
through
and
give
not
a
scientific
to
a
you
know,
particulate
matter
part,
but
to
an
estimate
based
on
what
we
do
know.
A
As
far
as
what
the
impacts
are
so
from
a
racial
equity
impact
analysis,
you'll
see
farther
down
on
a
parking
ramp
edition
and
the
additional
car
traffic.
We
consider
that
a
negative
to
the
community
and
and
in
essence
the
racial
equity
impact
analysis,
because
we're
talking
about
a
community
of
color
would
have
to
be
negative.
It
would
be
negative
to
many
communities,
but
they
don't
have
the
same
situation
that
the
current
environment
is
in
this
area
either.
So
it's
very
hard
to
compare
different
communities
on
that.
F
Okay,
I'm
looking
for
more
details
like
can
we
project
like
how
how
what
this
would
look
like
on
people's
health
outcomes?
Hospitalizations
asthma
rates
potential
deaths
cancer
rates?
I
mean
I'm
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
detail
than
just
like
this
is
going
to
be
negative,
because
the
whole
point
of
a
cumulative
health
impact
analysis,
which
is
that
law
that
is
supposed
to
protect
this
area,
is
to
make
that
case
about
this
community
has
already
too
much
and
so
adding
just
a
tiny
bit
more
could
be
deathly.
A
Council
vice
president
jenkins,
councilmember
cano,
that
isn't
that
information
is
not
available
to
me.
We
have
not
had
the
time
to
research
that
it
is
not
sort
of
it's
not
existing
in
the
in
the
scope
of
the
template.
A
That
is
our
racial
equity
impact
analysis,
so
it
could
be
in
there,
but
it
is
not
something
we
typically
report
on
and
we've
gone
above
and
beyond
on
this
case
on
writing
this
to
sort
of
bring
forward
the
information
we
know
in
the
existing
situation,
but
we
would
have
to
consult
our
colleagues
in
the
health
department
and
probably
the
mpca,
to
really
determine
what
the
increase
in
emissions
in
this
from
this
development
would
have
on
people's
health,
knowing
that
they
are
already
in
a
more
vulnerable
situation.
Health-Wise.
F
Yes,
I
think
I
think,
that's
really
important
to
to
try
to
ascertain-
and
this
is
why
I'm
a
proponent
of
the
suspension
of
the
project,
because
it
feels
like
we're
making
a
decision
that
we
don't
fully
understand
the
implications
on
an
overburdened
community.
Everybody
knows
that
it's
wrong.
Everybody
knows
that
it's
a
bad
idea
to
put
an
additional
500
trucks
and
vehicles
in
a
community.
F
That's
already
facing
some
of
the
health
disparities
that
we
have
been
learning
about
and
and
have
been
reading
about,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
really
be
able
to
get
a
grasp
on
what
is
the
projection
of
the
quality
of
life
that
these
residents
will
experience
once
the
parking
ramp
is
instituted,
the
vehicles
are
in
full
operation,
and-
and
that's
why
like
to
me,
it
feels
really
it
just
it
just.
F
It
feels
wrong
to
be
able
to
make
a
decision
to
say
move
forward
with
this
facility
if
we
don't
have
the
that
research.
Those
statistics
that
knowledge
that
information,
which
is
why
we've
been
asking
to
suspend
or
pause
the
project
and
give
us
more
time
to
do
this,
because
we
can't
haphazardly
approve
a
project
that
we
don't
quite
understand.
F
What's
going
to
be
the
impact
of
it
in
the
neighborhood
or
if
we,
if
we
do
know
that
the
the
impact
is
going
to
be
extremely
negative
on
an
already
overburdened
community,
that's
struggling
to
breathe,
then
we
should
have
those
clear
answers
for
community
members
about
what
that
what
that
expected
inc
impact
is
going
to
be,
and
so
I
just
want
to
share
with
my
colleagues
that
you
know
I
think
it's
really
dangerous
to
to
make
a
decision
like
this
and
force
it
to
move
forward
after
after.
F
What's
been
a
really
transformative
year
in
in
our
city,
where
we're
supposed
to
be
addressing
these
very
deeply
systemic
issues
around
race
and
racism,
racial
equity,
white
privilege,
white
supremacy,
and
it
just
doesn't
feel
like
we're
doing
that.
A
good
job
with
that
here
and-
and
I
think
this
body
can
do
it.
I
know
that
there's
some
very
smart.
F
You
know
well-read
people
on
the
council
that
could
really
be
helping
to
bring
forward
a
solution
on
this
front
instead
of
just
you
know,
knocking
down
all
the
other
ideas
that
are
being
brought
forward.
So
I
would
say
that
we
should
really
consider
pausing
the
direction
on
this
project,
because
we
don't
have
the
full
information
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
tell
our
residents
our
voters,
our
taxpayers,
what
what
they
can
expect
when
this
project
gets
built.
F
So
that's
less
of
a
question
for
you,
mr
havey,
but
more
of
like
you
know
a
way
to
connect
how
this
lack
of
information
on
this
project
in
a
very
sensitive
community
that
already
faces
racism,
class
oppression,
deep
historical,
environmental
exploitation
would
really
be
devastated
by
a
move
like
this,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
we
should
really
reconsider
the
reich
motion
at
some
point
in
time.
If
not
today,
you
know
maybe
in
the
near
future.
So
so.
Thank
you,
mr
havey.
A
Council
vice
president,
should
I
just
kind
of
jump
through
the
rest
of
the
outline
or.
B
C
All
I
mean
I,
I
think
council
member
connell's
points
were
not
necessarily
a
question
and
a
statement
of
some
of
the
issues
that
she
is
concerned
about,
and
so
yes,
I
think
we
should
continue.
A
Okay,
so
let's
then
continue
down
to
the
section
four
analysis
and
here
we're
looking
at
really
what
the
changes
are
were
from
the
previous
ria
that
we
did
and
we
looked
at
sort
of
three
areas:
the
project
elements
that
are
moving
forward,
which
are
a
tempered
vehicle
storage
area,
meaning
it's
a
heated
vehicle,
storage
area,
water,
distribution,
building,
it's
suspending
the
employment
training
building
and
then
it's
also
expanding
the
central
stores.
A
So
right
now,
obviously
there's
a
building,
that's
included
there.
So
the
you
know
tearing
down
on
the
tempered
related
the
new
tempered
parking
structure,
and
things
is
probably
somewhat
of
a
wash
in
regards
to
the
community
as
far
as
having
a
building
there,
but
we
definitely
think
that
there
are
impacts,
a
significant
impact
from
tearing
down
the
building
and
from
a
carbon
standpoint
as
well
too,
where
there's
a
lot
of
carbon
embodied
in
that
that
does
not
is
going
in
the
wrong
direction.
A
As
far
as
our
adding
to
our
carbon
issue
and
climate
change
issue,
we
also
have
an
opportunity
to
reuse
and
salvage,
so
certainly
looking
at
that
as
a
way
to
save
carbon.
But
ultimately,
there
will
be
increased
local
emissions
from
the
demolition
of
this
as
well,
so
localized
temporary,
but
still
there
will
be
missions
there
as
a
result
of
the
the
building
coming
down
which
goes
on
down
to
the
next
page.
A
You
know
there
will
be
contamination,
cleanup
yeah
if
we
could
just
slide
down
on
there.
There
will
be
contamination
cleanup
on
that
which
would
be
much
more
extensive
than
if
the
option
b
wasn't
done.
So
there's
positive
there
there's
an
opportunity
to
incorporate
a
storm
water
filtration,
which
right
now
there
isn't
any.
A
So
it
does
run
off
this
site
very
quickly,
so
looking
at
that
as
a
way
to
both
clean
water
before
going
to
the
mississippi
and
and
throughout
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
an
opportunity
to
deal
with
potentially
local
flooding
and
be
more
resilient,
the
plan
does
include
on
the
new
tempered
garage
and
expansion,
bays
a
large
solar
array
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
seven
to
eight
hundred
kilowatts.
A
That
is
intended
to
be
similar
to
what's
going
on
the
east
maintenance
side
maintenance
facility,
which
would
provide
low
income,
solar
garden
subscriptions
to
area
residents.
Obviously,
we've
talked
somewhat
about
the
increased
traffic
emissions.
The
parking
garage
was
discussed
in
the
last
one.
What
we're
seeing
overall
and
just
recently
in
the
last
week
here
we've
there's
about
a
thousand
fifty
cars
that
are
currently
on
site
versus
about
eighteen
hundred
trips
per
day
from
cars
and
vehicles.
A
That
would
be
there
from
the
other
site,
so
it
wouldn't
quite
double
but
increased
by
about
75
percent.
It
would
increase
traffic
on
28th
street,
which
is
a
pretty
busy
greenway
bicycle
pedestrian
crossing.
That
would
decrease
some
traffic
on
26th.
A
It's
the
pro
the
preferred
route
from
the
community,
there's
no
employment
training
center,
so
the
access
to
those
jobs
on
site
will
be
more
difficult,
and
so
that's
a
negative
for
on
the
community
and
the
central
stores
building,
which
would
be
improved
and
expanded
and
made
more
efficient.
It's
it's
an
existing
building
there,
so
it's
sort
of
a
new
building
and
an
existing
building
and
a
nearby
adjacent
site
so
somewhat
of
a
wash
there.
So,
ultimately,
you
know
the
there.
This
is
the
decisions
that
you
know.
A
We
try
to
present
as
much
information
as
we
can
within
the
time
frame
that
we
have,
and
this
this
was
an
update.
We
had
about
20
48
hours
to
turn
around,
but
you
know
happy
to
do
more
research
into
this
as
needed
and
support
the
council's
request
for
information.
A
But
ultimately
you
have
to
look
at
this
as
policymakers
make
those
make
those
decisions
based
on
the
policies
we
have
in
the
city
and
we've
agreed
to,
but
we're
trying
to
present
this
as
as
a
impact
on
a
bipod
community
that
is
wouldn't
would
have
some
positives,
but
from
a
health
and
emissions
a
situation
would
would
add
to
their
high
impact
from
those
emissions
that
are
existing
already.
C
Thank
you,
mr
haiti.
I
have
a
question
I
think,
probably
for
mr
jelly,
but
certainly
you
can
answer
as
well.
If
you
have
that
information,
but
is
there
a
goal
to
electrify
the
vehicles
that
are
proposed
to
be
at
this
site
and
and
if
so,
what
is
the
target
date.
Y
Y
I
apologize
because
time
is
kind
of
a
theoretical
thing,
sometimes
for
me,
but
within
the
last
six
months
the
the
city
council
did
update
that
greenfleets
policy
and
we
certainly
while
balancing
kind
of
the
realities
of
the
marketplace,
have
a
goal
of
electrifying
our
fleet
and
today
are
have
the
practice
of
when
sedans
are
replaced,
that
the
default
is,
they
will
become,
they'll,
be
an
electric
vehicle
and
we've
been
electrifying
the
fleet
and
we
certainly
the
policy
direction
of
the
council,
and
certainly
what
we
want
to
do
is
continue
that,
as
we
move
into
likely
lighter
duty,
pickup
trucks,
potentially
equipment
as
well,
and
when
we
can't
electrify
something
we
certainly
are
buying
the
highest
standard
of
emissions,
performance
that
and
that's
consistent
with
the
adopted
policy.
Y
It's
to
your
to
your
last
point.
You
know
goal
date.
As
I
said
it's,
there
is
the
reality
of
what
you
can
buy.
I
think
ford
has
announced
some
f-150
so
like
a
light
duty,
pickup
truck
are
going
to
start
to
be
available
as
a
fully
electric,
but
as
the
vehicles
get
bigger,
the
battery
technology
needs
to
be
better
and
that,
while
that
continues
to
improve
we're,
not
quite
there
yet
on
heavy
duty
vehicles,.
C
And
I'm
also
just
concerned
that
the
training
facility
was
excluded
from
the
proposal
and.
C
I
I'm
wondering
why
and
if,
if
those
you
know,
how
are
we
going
to
meet
our
employment
goals
in
terms
of
diversifying
our
workforce
and
responding
to
the
you
know,
graying
of
our
workforce,
etc?.
Y
Council
vice
president,
I
know
you
didn't
say
that
just
because
of
my
whiskers
right
now,
but
yes,
I
so
I
would
say
that
this
option
that's
before
us
today,
and
this
is
something
that
that
I've
included
in
our
you
know
in
options
for
the
city
council
to
consider
it
is
a
balance
of
the
operational
needs,
as
I've
described
around
upgrading
a
substandard
water
facility
and
all
of
the
other
operational
things
that
have
gone
over.
Y
You
know
this
option
accomplishes
those
goals,
the
the
training
center.
The
outreach
center
is
the
the
logic
and
reasons
for
that
are
as
valid
today
as
they
were
when
you
know
that
they
entered
the
conversation
in
2018,
so
something
that
public
works
in
the
city
and
many
partners,
including
labor,
are
interested
in
in
working
together.
Y
I
that's
something
I'm
committed
to
continue
to
work
on.
I
think
we
got
a
lot
of
exciting
momentum
behind
that
project.
Y
P
Medical
vice
president
director
jelly
eric's
fine
by
the
way
with
the
second
part.
If
the
council
continues
this
path
with
that,
three-acre
parcel
we're
due
back
at
the
end
of
november,
with
a
plan
on
how
to
develop
development
objectives.
For
that
parcel,
and
we
have
been
a
very
cognizant
of
employment,
employment
training
center
connected
to
this,
not
only
for
the
residents
of
minneapolis
but
for
our
own
workforce
and,
as
you
know,
the
city
has
one
of
the
best
deployment
and
training
teams
in
the
country.
P
P
The
city
does
have
a
site
across
hiawatha
at
the
corner
of
2600
or
the
26th
and
minnehaha
united
staff
are
looking
at
an
open,
ended
rfp
for
that
site,
but
we
might
be
able
to.
You
know,
pick
another
to
take
some
creative
thinking
about.
Maybe
that
is
a
site
for
our
training
center.
It's
about
a
block
and
a
half
away
from
the
hiawatha
yards
and
would
serve
similar.
You
know
the
similar
community,
so
there
are
options
to
find
a
training
center.
P
It
gets
a
little
bit
more
complicated
when
it's
not
a
city-owned
facility,
however,
and
so
that
would
be
a
financing
problem
that
we'd
have
to
solve
as
we
go
forward.
C
C
G
C
Thank
you.
Any
discussion.
C
Oh
alrighty,
thank
you
all
right,
no
discussion.
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll.
C
I
C
C
So
that
item
carries
and
will
be
before
us
on
the
council
agenda
this
coming
friday
and
with
that
colleagues,
we
have
concluded
the
business
to
come
before
this
committee
today
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned
and
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
patience
and
attention
in
this
very
full
agenda,
very
important
and
full
agenda
that
we
execute
it
today
have
a
great
evening.