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A
Whether
there's
you
know
a
good
enough
investigation
for
the
arbitrator
to
have
what
they
need
in
order
to
uphold
the
discipline,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
is
within
the
purview
of
the
pcoc
and
would
like
to
see
that
back
in
your
wheelhouse
again.
So
thank
you.
Bye.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
bicking.
I
will
note
just
for
your
information
and
the
the
rest
of
the
public
keen
eye
there.
It
was
simply
due
to
logistics,
we're
trying
to
schedule
a
a
time
to
meet
with
someone
who
is
more
of
an
expert
on
the
arbitration
side
of
things.
It
is
off
the
agenda
for
today,
but
it's
just
tabled
where
we
hope
to
go
back
to
that
conversation.
B
That
thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
who
would
wish
to
address
this
subcommittee
remember
to
dial
starsix
to
unmute
yourself.
B
Seeing
none
we
will
continue
on
with
our
agenda,
starting
with
unfinished
business
items
from
our
february
meeting.
The
first
item
number
five,
no
knock
warrants
where
we
left
off
with
no
knock
warrants.
This
subcommittee
reviewed
high
risk
warrant
entry
report
prepared
by
mr
band,
and
I
remember
having
in
that
conversation
with
mr
band,
if
I
could
take
a
look
at
the
the
raw
individualized
data,
so
that
way
I
could
see
if
I
could
put
together
some
regression
analysis
for
it.
B
Unfortunately,
I
wasn't
able
to
receive.
I
had
not
received
that
data
from
mr
band,
and
I
don't
see
him
on
the
call
unless
the
unlabeled
meeting
guest
is
mr
band
christopher.
Are
you
here.
B
Bear
with
us
one
minute,
ma'am
carolina
amini.
Do
you
have
something
to
say
regarding
the
no
duck
warrants.
C
Yes,
commissioner,
it
was
just
that
and
the
investigator
band
had
a
family
emergency
and
he
will
be
out
until
april.
So
that
is
why
you
have
not
received
anything
yet,
but
at
the
next
meeting
we
will
have
something
prepared
for
you.
B
B
Okay
with
that
in
mind,
that
was
really
the
next
step
in
this.
You
know
we
got
summary
data
from
from
christopher's
analysis
of
this
and
we
wanted
to
see
if
we
could
make
some
hypotheses
about
that.
But
if
I
don't
have
the
data,
I
can't
do
any
regression
analysis.
Do
we
have
any
other
items
to
discuss
regarding
coaching
on
that,
because
that
was?
That
was
the
point
that
I
saw
moving
forward
to
see
if
we
can
build
any.
B
You
know
statistical
correlations
between
some
of
our
outcomes
that
we
were
looking
at
and
whether
or
not
it
was
announced
or
unannounced,
but
any
thoughts
from
either
commissioner
crockett
or
commissioner
sparks
on
this.
E
Yeah,
I
mean
there's
not
much
to
say
it's
been
very,
very
slow
going
on
this
process
continues
to
be
slow,
going.
The
reasons
for.
B
B
Yep,
okay,
we
will
definitely
you
know,
make
sure
that
when
it
is
appropriate,
we'll
reach
back
out
to
mr
band
and
try
to
keep
the
ball
rolling
on
that,
because
that
was
something
we've
been
seeing
headway
on
successfully,
and
I
want
to
keep
that
momentum
up.
B
The
next
item
for
business,
unfinished
business
is
the
item
of
coaching.
I
do
or
me
remember.
We
had
hit
a
particular
wall
with
this
one,
and
our
end
result
was
that
this
subcommittee
would
work
with
andrew
hawkins
from
civil
rights
staff
to
put
together
a
letter
recommending
action
on
a
new
data
management
system.
B
From
that
previous
conversation,
mr
hawkins
and
miss
amini
gave
us
kind
of
a
more
real-world
understanding
of
you
know
the
the
lack
of
resources
that
we
are
able
to
receive
from
our
current
system
and
the
the
final
nail
in
the
coffin
for
us
was
well.
We
can't
even
pull
the
information
that
we
need
to
pull
to
be
able
to
understand
if
there's
a
difference
in
outcomes
in
terms
of
using
coaching
discipline,
different
levels
of
discipline,
which
also
bleeds
a
little
bit
into
our
discipline,
research
and
study,
so
miss
amini.
B
I
know
you're,
it
looks
like
you're
the
member
from
staff.
That's
here
I
don't
mean
to
pick
on
you,
but
just
because
you
are
here,
do
you
know
if
mr
hawkins
has
been
able
to
work
on
a
letter?
I
I
haven't
seen
any
email
from
andrew
regarding
this.
C
I
don't
believe
so
that
he
has
worked
on
a
letter
recommending
a
new
rms,
but
from
what
we
had
discussed
at
the
last
meeting,
we
do
have
an
rms
on
its
way.
We
were
going
to
get
in
contact
with
their
first
available
project
manager,
which
I
was
told
was
the
beginning
of
april.
So
hopefully,
within
this
week,
if
not
next
week,
they
will
contact
us
with
a
contact
person
for
that
agency.
C
Or
excuse
me
for
that
private
company
and
they
we
we
should
be
up
and
running,
hopefully
soon.
B
Okay,
on
that
note,
I
know
this
is
this
is
going
to
be
an
ask
of
of
you
and
I
I
know
that
you
know
you
would
probably
have
to
work
with
andrew
and
others
to
see
if
this
is
okay,
but
since
we're
in
a
public
meeting
right
now,
I
I
would
politely
ask
if
either
myself
or
another
member
of
this
audit
subcommittee
could
be
part
of
the
conversations
when
speaking
with
that
rms
liaison
to
at
least
express
pcoc's
perspectives
on
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
terms
of
searchable
data,
because
that
would
be
so
wonderful
to
see
and
if
I
could
at
least
put
that
that
request
out
into
the
ether
at
your
level
and
have
that
be
a
conversation,
that's
that's
being
had
I.
C
So,
to
be
specific,
you
want
to
be
involved
in
terms
of
what
data
points
would
be
accessible
through
this
rms.
B
And-
and
I
think
that
this
kind
of
bleeds
into
the
other
reason-
and
probably
the
main
reason
why
you're
here
is
because
I
asked
you
last
week
to
like
to
give
us
kind
of
an
update
of
what
data
points
are
public.
What
data
points
are
not
public,
and
this
is
a
pretty
heavy
crossover
with
that.
B
A
new
management
system
is
going
to
have
its
own
quirks
right
and,
and
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
fumbling
the
ball,
so
to
speak
with
a
new
management
system
in
terms
of
what
this
audit
subcommittee
and
the
pcoc
needs.
I'm
sure
because
opcr
is,
is
staff
and-
and
you
guys
have
a
lot
of
time
to
think
about
this-
that
it
is
top
of
mind
on
the
the
priorities
that
you
guys
want.
B
B
Thank
you.
I
really.
I
really
appreciate
that
in
in
you
know,
lacking
andrew
hawkins
being
here
and
having
a
further
discussion
regarding
that
letter
recommending
action.
I
I
don't
see
further
further
action
items
on
the
coaching
discussion,
I'll
open
it
up
to
commissioners
crockett
and
sparks.
E
Well,
it's
kind
of
the
same
thing:
there's
not
a
lot
to
say
when
staff
who
have
action
items
don't
attend
the
meeting
and
well,
I
will
say
I
lack
of
resources
for
the
department
of
civil
rights
has
been
a
constant
issue
and
concern
for
this
commission
and
deeply
disappointing
to
me.
I
know
that
generally,
that's
not
an
individual
issue,
but
it's
hindered
progress
in
almost
every
single
avenue
that
we've
tried
to
look
at
and
it's.
B
Yeah,
I
I
completely
agree,
commissioner,
sparks
and
I
and
I
think
that
it's
right
to
point
out
that
this
is
not
specifically
the
fault
of
any
of
the
staff.
The
staff
are
doing
the
most
with
what
they
can
and
they
have
been
under
resourced
for
a
while.
B
Now
and
boy
do
I
wish
that
you
know
this
if,
if
pcoc
could
be
a
full-time
job,
and
that
way
I
could
be,
you
know,
knocking
on
doors,
as
you
know,
as
often
and
as
long
as
staff
members
like
miss
amini,
could
in
her
day
job.
I
I'd
be
there,
but
you
know
we.
B
E
Well
stated
that,
and
I
appreciate
you
clarifying
that
none
of
that
frustration
is
directed
at
any
individual
members
of
staff.
We
appreciate
everybody
who
comes.
I
appreciate
everybody
who
comes
and.
B
B
Final
item
of
business
is
discipline,
research
and
study.
In
our
last
meeting,
I
requested
miss
amini
to
join
us
again
at
this
meeting
and
talk
in
more
detail
about
data
points
regarding.
B
It
was
a
conversation
that
we
had
that
closely
aligns
with
the
fact
that
our
larger
pcoc
has
summary
data
which
we've
just
re-imagined
right,
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
play
with
that
in
a
little
bit
more
granular
way
here
in
the
audit
subcommittee
and
knowing
what
is
off-limits,
and
what
is
you
know
within
the
bounds
of
what
we're
able
to
disclose
to
the
public
is
is
important
when
we're
talking
about
whether
or
not
we
can
evaluate
whether
or
not
certain
violations
of
policies
are
treated
similarly
or
dissimilarly
across
the
discipline
process,
and
so
with
with
that
in
mind,
miss
amini.
B
Are
you
able
to
speak
to
us
in
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
today
about
what
are
some
of
those
those
variables?
What
are
some
of
those
identifiers
or
topics,
or
you
know,
sometimes
they're
they're,
codified
and
there's
some
sort
of
codes
that
are
available
to
the
public
that
we
use
either
in
you
know
those
case
summaries
or
that
we
haven't
necessarily
used
in
case
summaries,
but
they're
still
publicly
available
information.
B
C
Sure
so
I
will
just
kind
of
walk
through
my
my
thought
process
here
from
the
last
meeting.
The
first
thing
that
came
to
mind
was
the
public
disciplinary
decisions
that
are
through
the
city
of
minneapolis's
website
has.
B
B
C
So
it's
through
the
city
of
minneapolis
website
on
the
top,
it
would
say,
resident
services
on
the
middle
left.
You
would
then
go
through
public
safety,
police,
public
safety,
and
there
is
another
link,
that
would
say,
police
reports
and
data
requests
and
then
towards
the
bottom.
It's
frequently
requested
police
information
and
then
disciplinary
decisions,
and
then,
in
that
website
it
has
all
of
the
disciplinary
decisions.
C
E
C
So
I
contacted
the
minneapolis
records
department
to
verify
what
exactly
could
be
public.
They
had
mentioned
that
the
age
of
the
officer
is
not
public
for
officers
using
years
of
service.
You
could
check
to
see
how
long
they
have
been
employed
with
the
city
of
minneapolis.
That
could
give
a
general
understanding
of
how
long
they
may
have
been
an
officer
and
the
other
points
that
were
mentioned
like
the
grade
of
allegations
precincts.
C
C
B
Okay,
the
I
mean
this.
This
sounds
fairly
promising,
because
what
I'm
hearing
from
you
is,
we
had
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
nine,
ten
11
or
12
different
data
points
and
and
you're
saying
the
only
two
that
I'm
hearing
right
now,
the
the
race
and
ethnicity
of
the
officer
and
the
age
of
the
officer
are
the
only
two
that
are
really
kind
of
like
not
not
disclosable.
B
C
That's
right,
those
demographics
could
be
handed
out
as
summary
data,
but
it
just
can't
be
linked
with
any
specific
officer.
B
Sure,
okay,
and
so
we
could,
we
could
ask
you
know
you
know
for
summary:
data
on
age,
distribution
of
hey.
What
you
know
give
us
a
our
range
of
how
many
officers
are
between
you
know:
18
and
30.
How
many
of
them
are
between
30
and
40,
40
and
50
that
sort
of
thing,
but
we
don't
want
officer
x
to
be
labeled
as
a
45
year
old.
C
I'm
assuming
that,
yes
and
again,
that
would
be
a
good
question
for
the
records
department
to
give
you
that
final
answer,
yeah.
B
Okay,
good
to
know
that's
great
well,
thank
you
so
much.
I
really
appreciate
you
looking
into
this
for
us,
because
it
helps
us
understand.
What's
pragmatic
and
what's
not
in
terms
of
going
forward
with
this,
and
it
sounds
like
the
information's
out
there.
B
The
one
barrier
to
this
is
that
it
may
not
be
in
the
most
readable
information.
It
seems
like
they're
all
in
these
these
pdfs,
which
you
know
we
talked
about
last
time,
about
how
man
this
isn't
necessarily
digitally
friendly,
but
that's
a
different
kettle
of
fish.
You
know
it
is
possible
to
do
it's
just
you
know
not
necessarily
pragmatic.
B
Okay,
okay,
so,
and
and
from
the
website
that
you
directed
us
to
the
disciplinary
decisions.
How
far
did
you
say
this
goes
back
to.
C
B
B
B
Okay,
cool
yeah,
it
looks
like
it
goes
back
to
20
there.
There
are
there's
one
in
2016.,
okay
and
none
in
2022
known
in
2021.
Do
you
have
any
idea?
How
often
this
is
updated
because
it
looks
like
it
doesn't
have
any
disciplines
after
2020.
B
That's
okay.
I
mean
I,
I
would
have
been
surprised
if
you,
if
you
knew
that,
but
thank
you
for
letting
me
ask
the
question
anyway.
I
I
have
no
further
questions
for
you,
but
I
do
see
commissioner
sparks
has
his
hand
raised.
E
E
So
that's
a
it's
a
limited
use
to
the
public
so,
and
I
know
that
this
comes
up
every
once
in
a
while.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
this
kind
of
thing,
we
come
up
with
a
way,
a
process
in
which
those
links
and
information
about
those
websites
is
viewable
to
the
public.
Later
I
don't
know
the
best
way
to
share
that
with
people
who
are
viewing
this
stuff
after
the
fact,
but
I
think
it's
important.
B
That's
that's
a
great
aside,
and
I
was
going
to
mention
at
the
end
of
this
that,
if
madame
clark,
if
you
could
put
this
link
into
the
meeting
minutes
so
that
way,
anyone
who
at
least
goes
to
our
meeting
minutes
can
follow
that
link.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Any
further
questions
for
miss
amini
regarding
her
reporting
back
to
us
about
publicly
available
data
metrics
that
were
of
interest
to
us
from
either
commissioner
sparks
or
crockett.
B
Seeing
none
from
commissioner
sparks
and
then
from
commissioner
parker
well,
thank
you
very
much.
Miss
mimi.
I
appreciate
you
chatting
with
us
today.
Thank
you
to
jump
more
into
next
steps
on
this
item.
I
think
it
might
be
useful
to
start
a
discussion
with
the
records
department
at
npd
and
see
if
we
can
establish
a
you
know,
a
connection
of
saying,
like
hey,
we're,
we're
interested
in
taking
a
look
at
data
to
help.
You
know
understand
the
police
department
better.
B
It
might
be
able
to
foster
a
sense
of
goodwill
of
saying,
like
hey.
We
want
to
help
you.
You
know
synthesize
this
data
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
we
can
get
to
a
common
understanding.
B
You
know
not
even
just
necessarily
about
you
know,
discipline
and
records,
but
maybe
this
will
help
us
come
to
a
better
understanding
of
our
entire
police
department
overall
and
what
that
sort
of
makeup
looks
like,
and
I
know,
they're
curious
about
that
sort
of
stuff.
I'm
sure
they've
done
work
on
some
of
this
already
and
you
know
I.
B
I
know
that
this
would
be
a
helpful
way
to
establish
a
further
connection
with
that
records
department
is
the
topic
of
you
know,
understanding
if
there
are
or
are
not
differences
in
the
discipline
process.
I'm
sure
they'd
be
interested
to
know
that
as
well.
That's
that's.
The
initial
thought
that
I
have
either
of
the
two
commissioners
here
have
either
differing
thoughts,
or
you
know
want
to
push
back
on
this
initial
thought
from
me.
E
Yeah,
I'm
with
this
commissioner
sparks
I'm
with
you
on
that.
I
agree.
B
Okay
yeah
mr
crockett.
D
Yeah,
no,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think
it's
a
a
really
good
step
to
to
reach
out.
B
Sounds
good
and
I
know
that
the
the
disciplinary
decisions
they're
all
in
this
pdf
form
it
looks
like
it
would
take
time
for
someone
to
go
through
and
kind
of
pool
together
this
information
in
a
more
aggregated
way
and
like
put
it
into
an
excel
spreadsheet,
but
that
might
be
something
that
would
be
worthwhile
in
trying
to
understand.
B
Are
there
you
know?
Are
we
consistent
with
our
discipline
process?
Are
we
inconsistent
with
our
discipline
process
and
I'm
trying
to
see
if
I
can
quickly
get
a
a
number
just
by
like
term
searching
on
this
website?
It
looks
like
there
are
55
records
here,
so
I
mean
that's,
not
nothing.
B
I
I'm
gonna
hold
off
on
directing
staff
to
start
that
work
because
it
sounds
like
it's
fairly
tedious,
but
if
we
could
reflect
in
the
meeting
minutes,
madam
clerk,
that
we
would
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
mr
band
when
he
returns
about
how
pragmatic
it
would
be
for
staff
to
go
through
the
disciplinary
decisions.
B
B
You
know
I'll
I'll
make
a
note
of
that
in
in
a
minute.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
our
note
keeper,
and
you
know
what,
rather
than
telling
you
to
do
it
I'll
I'll,
write
down
that
idea
myself.
So
that
way,
we
have
two
notes
that
are
saying
the
same
thing.
B
E
B
Okay,
any
more
discussion
on
item
seven
of
our
agenda.
B
B
None
before
we
adjourn,
I
think
that
we
had
a
a
natural
conversation
point
that
was
brought
up
and
I'm
gonna
just
tag
it
on
to
the
end
of
business.
Here.
The
idea
that
we
were
talking
about
limited
staff
resources,
mr
sparks-
and
I
I
know
that
this
was
a
this-
has
been
a
long
discussion
that
we
have
had
here
in
this
subcommittee
and
in
the
larger
commission
in
general.
B
B
I
know
that
something
I
have
recently
emailed
you
about,
but
I
I
would
recommend
from
this
committee,
and
it
might
be
something
that
we
could
put
together
in
this
subcommittee
to
go
to
the
larger
committee
as
a
discussion
item,
but
talking
about
a
a
larger
review
of
pcoc's
charter,
our
role,
our
our
purpose
and
whether
or
not
we've
been
effective
in
that
I
know
it
hasn't
come
from.
B
You
know
lack
of
trying
from
either
our
end
or
staff's
end,
but
it
seems
like
we
are
continuously
fighting
an
uphill
battle
that
we
aren't
either
given
the
teeth
that
we
need
or
the
actual
authority
to
oversee
the
way
in
which
it
it
seems
as
though
we
ought
to
have
given
our
charter
and
it.
B
I
would
recommend,
as
as
chair
of
this
subcommittee
to
you,
as
you
know,
interim
chair
of
our
larger
commission,
that
we
have
a
conversation
as
a
full
commission
reviewing
our
our
charter,
our
purpose
and
reflecting
on
the
effectiveness
of
that
and
how
we
can
improve
either
internally
or
what
we
need
to
ask
for
externally.
B
In
order
to
become
more
productive
in
this
work,
because
you
know
that
it
will
not
surprise.
Many
of
you
who
have
been
on
this
caller
been
watching
these
videos
that
it
sounds
like
it's.
It's
a
rerun,
and
I
I
don't
want
that
to
be
the
case.
B
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
moving
forward
with
our
work,
because
it
is
important
and
valuable
ways
to
contribute
to
our
city,
but
there's
clearly
there's
something
missing
here
and
if
it's
not
coming
from
within
it
needs
to
come
from.
B
You
know
the
bodies
that
give
us
this
authority
for
what
it
is
right
now
and
again,
it
was
not
necessarily
on
the
agenda,
but
it
was
naturally
coming
up
in
our
conversation.
So
I
I
figured
it
was
worth
this
public
time
to
have
that
conversation.
E
Yeah
I
mean
very
well
stated
as
usual,
mr
pino,
but
you're
right
I
mean
it's
to
say
it
feels
like
a
rerun
is
probably
pretty
accurate.
It's
easy
to
have
that
frustration,
but
by
I
think
I've
been
feeling
it
personally
a
lot
lately
you
join,
you
have
scant
updates,
get
told
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can't
do
and
then
the
meeting
ends
and
yeah.
E
That's
it's
been
like
that
for
for
a
while
now
and
so
it's
hard
to
feel
like
you're,
contributing
to
something
that's
valued
and
that's
effective,
even
though
you
know
the
work
is
so
important
and
the
mission
is
so
important.
C
E
It's
a
good
thought
about
the
the
the
I
think
he
used
the
word
charter,
because,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
in
that
language,
like
a
great
example,
would
be
that
this
commission
was
thought
up.
You
know
x
number
of
years
ago,
quite
a
long
time
before
any
of
us
were
on
it,
we're
supposed
to
be
contributing
to
the
police,
chief's
annual
review,
and
that's
right-
that's
black
and
white.
It's
right
in
there
that
we're
supposed
to
have
a
voice,
or
at
least
offer
an
opinion
and
that's
never
happened.
E
We've
never
been
asked
for
one.
I
think
we
asked
to
come
to
the
table
and
sometimes
we
offer
that
opinion,
but
it
never
seems
to
land
anywhere
and
that's
it's
almost
like
a
case
in
point
right.
It's
not
up
for
debate,
it's
black
and
white.
That's
something
we're
supposed
to
be
involved
in
and
it's
not
happening.
It's
never
happened.
E
B
So
yeah
I
mean
no
no
formal
motion
for
me.
I
would
love
to
hear
commissioner
crockett's
thoughts
on
this,
but
at
the
end
of
this
I'll,
just
give
an
informal
ask
because
you're
the
person
who's
going
to
set
the
agenda
for
our
next
meeting
as
a
as
an
entire
commission.
Mr
crockett
thoughts
on
this
yeah.
D
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
a
it
would
be.
A
really
great
great
great
step
is
to
actually
like
have
a
conversation
to,
or
I
guess,
an
audit
to
see.
You
know
where
we're
at
what
effect
we
have
made
and
is
it
you
know,
answer
that
question?
Is
it
something
of
you
know
our
structure
or
is
it?
D
You
know,
like
kind
of
said,
the
powers
that
be
or
the
the
people
who
structured
the
see
is
that
something
to
where
we,
you
know,
go
to
them
to
to
to
to
give
us
to
give
us
some
more
to
help
us
be
in.
D
Position
to
to
actually
get
some
stuff
done,
instead
of
having
the
halts
that
we
always
are
consistently
getting,
and
the
data
stoppage
and
and
everything.
So
I
think
I
think,
at
the
at
the
minimum
for
sure
we
should
for
sure
reevaluate
to
to
really
look
and
and
see
what
effect
we've
made
and
and
what
can
be,
what
can
really
be
different
or
what
we
should
specifically
address
so
that
we
can
be
a
lot
more
effective.
B
Thank
you
well
said
so:
yeah
just
parting
parting
words
for
our
vice
chair.
If
I
would
love
to
see
on
our
agenda
either
a
review
of
the
ordinance
so
that
way
we
can
all
take
a
look
at
it
as
a
committee,
and
you
know
on
top
of
that
either
whether
that's
reviving
the
ordinance
committee
which
exists
within
our
structure
or
saying
you
know,
the
entire
commission
is
going
to
take
on
the
duties
of
the
ordinance
committee
and
start
talking
about.
What's
working.
What's
not
working.
B
I
think
I
think
now
is
the
time
that
we
need
to.
We
need
to
start
doing
that.
Otherwise
you
know
it's
it.
It
doesn't
seem
like
we're
we're
making
the
type
of
headway
that
we
want
to
see,
and
I
know
sometimes
this
process
is
slow,
but
there's
a
difference
between
slow
and
stalled.
You
know.
C
E
Our
next
full
commission
meeting,
I
believe,
is
on
april
12th,
so
we
normally
work
with
with
lisa
brock
from
the
clerk's
office.
E
On
setting
the
agenda,
I
have
already
sent
her
a
draft
agenda,
but
yeah,
I
don't
think
she
she's
out
until
a
certain
date
I'll
reach
out
to
her
and
see
if
we
can
shoehorn
this
into
the
draft
agenda.
The
worst
case
scenario
is
just
that
the
zeros
don't
match
up
and
she
publishes
the
the
agenda
as
it
is,
and
then,
when
we
start
our
meeting,
we
just
I
meant
that
I'll.
D
B
E
Yeah
that
sounds
good
it'll,
probably
be
somewhere
near
somewhere
near
the
top,
like
the
first
order
of
business
that
we
have
to
figure
out.
Our
leadership,
such
as
it
is,
even
though
our
commission
is
so
greatly
reduced.
We
still
need
chairs
and
vice
chairs,
and
then
we'll,
oh
probably
right
after
that.
I
suppose
we'll
want
to
bring
up
this
topic.
E
B
All
right,
seeing
none
we've
concluded
all
items
on
our
agenda
for
this
meeting
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.