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A
All
right
with
that,
we
will
call
the
regular
meeting
of
the
uptown
special
service
district
advisory
board
will
now
begin
good
morning.
My
name
is
michael
mclaughlin.
I
will
be
facilitating
this
meeting
of
the
uptown
special
service
district
advisory
board.
A
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
0.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
order
and
call
the
roll
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
forum
board
members
want
to
call
your
name.
Please
indicate
that
you
are
present
mike
finn
here,
nicholas
hall,.
B
A
Here
there
you
go
you're
you're
faster
than
your
than
your
mic
was
on.
Thank
you,
jackie
knight,.
D
E
A
Very
good.
I
will
also
note
that
we
are
joined
by
our
ssd
team
members,
andrew
carlson
and
david
bauer,
and
we
have
a
number
of
guests
presenters
who
have
joined
us
as
well
as
members
of
the
public.
So
with
that
there
being
a
quorum
of
advisory
board,
members
present,
we
will
proceed.
The
first
order
of
business
is
the
adoption
of
the
draft
agenda
and
the
minutes
to
the
prior
meeting.
A
Are
there
any
modifications
to
the
proposed
agenda
or
draft
minutes?
Otherwise
we
can
take
one
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
as
well
as
the
draft
proposed
minutes.
If
someone
would
like
to
make
that
motion.
A
Any
further
discussion:
okay
on
the
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
and
the
draft
minutes
of
the
june
10th
meeting
roll
call.
Mike
finn
on
the
motion.
F
A
B
A
Very
good
the
agenda
in
minutes
for
the
prior
meeting
are
approved
as
distributed.
Thank
you.
We
will
then
move
to
our
discussion
item
today,
which
is
a
presentation
on
the
hennepin
avenue
reconstruction
project
from
the
patient
planning
and
programming
team.
With
that,
I
will
introduce
our
rebecca
hughes
with
tpp
transportation,
planning
and
programming
and
I'll
never
introduce
your
team
and
start
the
presentation
good
morning.
Becca.
G
Good
morning
I
can
hear
a
lot
of
feedback,
so
if
you
aren't
muted,
is
it
possible
to
mute
just
so
that
perfect?
Thank
you
so
much
all
right,
quick
introductions,
becca
hughes
with
transportation,
planning
and
programming,
I'm
also
here
with
the
rest
of
the
project
team
or
several
members,
I'm
alan
klugman,
with
transportation
or
transportation
and
parking
services,
also
amy
barnstar
from
transportation
planning
and
programming
and
then
also
joannette
coonau.
I'm
not
sure
if
adam
is
gonna,
be
joining
us
adam
hale
from
transportation,
engineering
and
design.
G
So
the
plan
is
we'll
start
with
a
brief
presentation.
We
just
gave
this
earlier
this
morning
and
also
a
couple
of
times
recently,
so
I
will
try
and
move
through
this
relatively
quickly.
We
know
there'll
be
a
lot
of
questions
at
the
end.
So
again,
thanks
to
your
time
this
morning
in
terms
of
an
agenda,
we'll
start
with
just
a
really
brief
project
overview,
we'll
then
move
into
the
actual
recommended
design
the
details
and
then
some
of
the
technical
support
and
analysis
that
helped
get
us
to
that
recommended
design.
G
Just
as
an
overview
of
the
project,
and
I'm
sure
everyone's
probably
been
following
this
project
to
some
extent
but
again,
just
to
sort
of
reiterate
the
project
is
about
a
1.3
mile
segment
on
hennepin
avenue,
with
douglas
avenue
on
the
north
and
lake
street.
On
the
south,
we've
been
engaging
with
three
budding
neighborhood
organizations
throughout
this
process.
Obviously,
we've
had
a
few
meetings
with
both
special
service
districts,
as
well
as
the
uptown
association
as
well
throughout
the
last
couple
of
years.
G
G
In
the
initial
meeting
that
we
had,
we
went
into
a
fair
amount
of
detail
about
these
policy
plans
but
specific
to
the
transportation
action
plan
which
was
adopted
in
late
2020
and
that's
our
10-year
vision
for
transportation.
Actions
across
the
city
also
establishes
many
of
the
the
networks
and
also
outlines
many
of
the
different
goals
that
we
have
for
the
city
as
well
related
to
transportation.
G
Of
course,
the
overall
overarching
city
plan,
the
minneapolis
2040
comprehensive
plan,
and
then
we
also
have
a
couple
of
complimentary
plans,
the
vision,
zero
plan
and
then
our
street
design
guide,
which
really
outlines
certain
parameters
and
lists
and
different
criteria
that
are
needed
for
street
design
elements
and
policy
plans
are
really
the
foundation
right.
So
when
people
have
been
asking
us
questions-
and
you
know
I
know-
we've
talked
about
this
in
all
of
our
meetings
and
each
of
the
open
houses,
but
just
to
kind
of
remember
where
we
started
from.
G
We
do
start
from
policy
plans.
Policy
plans
are
those
that
are
adopted
by
the
city
council.
So
we
start
with
the
policy
plans
as
a
foundation.
Then
we
do
all
of
our
technical
analysis
right,
whether
it's
traffic
studies
or
other
types
of
analysis,
we
sort
of
roll
that
into
it,
so
that
we
understand
the
factors
and
then
we
also
take
public
input
to
help
refine
those
design
elements.
G
So
in
terms
of
key
feedback
themes
and
again
we
have
a
couple
of
summaries
on
the
public
website,
so
we've
got
summaries
from
both
recent
rounds
of
engagement
beginning
in
2020.
So
you
can
see
some
of
the
summaries
of
the
comments
that
we've
received
to
date.
It
has
been
exhaustive
right.
There
have
been
thousands
and
thousands
of
comments
have
been
inspired
on
this
project.
G
You
know
we
knew
it
was
going
to
be
controversial,
there's
only
so
much
space
within
the
public
right-of-way
and
the
policy
documents
really
set
us
up
to
have
many
many
competing
interests
within
the
small
amount
of
space
and
really
the
key
theme
here,
and
what
we've
been
trying
to
relay
for
a
long
period
of
time
is
that
we're
getting
comments
from
all
ends
of
the
spectrum.
So
there's
just
many
competing
comments
and
we
just
cannot
simply
address
all
of
these
within
one
layout
because
there's
just
not
enough
space
to
do
so.
G
With
that
said,
these
are
some
of
the
major
themes
that
we
heard
through
the
first
two
rounds
of
engagement.
Right
now
we
have
our
recommended
design
out
and
so
we're
taking
comments
on
that
through
the
end
of
january.
We'll
touch
on
that
more
later,
but
what
we
have
heard
is
support
for
a
bicycle
facility
on
hennepin
avenue,
so
that
was
something
that
came
out
strong
in
the
original
two
first
two
rounds
of
engagement.
G
G
We
did
hear
about
concerns
regarding
traffic
congestion
if
we
were
going
to
be
reducing
the
cross-section
of
the
street,
which,
if
you've
looked
at
the
recommended
design,
we
are
doing
so,
but
then
what
are
the
implications
on
neighborhood
streets
as
a
result
of
these
changes
in
circulation
and
we've
heard
certainly
interest
throughout?
How
can
we
get
a
prettier,
greener
corridor
right
that
has
sidewalks,
cafes
and
green
infrastructure
related
elements
that
serve
as
amenities,
etc?
G
There's
still,
of
course,
that
comment
and
that
sentiment
out
just
given
what's
happening
in
the
city
in
the
area
at
this
time.
So
it's
it's
not
a
comment
that
we
still
aren't
hearing
we're
just
not
hearing
it
as
loudly
as
we
did
in
the
beginning.
G
So
the
street
was
constructed
back
in
1957
originally
and
it's
gone
through
various
rehabilitations
and,
of
course,
like
typical
maintenance
related
projects,
but
it
was
last
reconstructed
fully
in
1957,
so
the
infrastructure
itself
is
about
65
years
old.
There
were
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
needed
to
deal
with
as
it
related
to
the
existing
roadway
and
we'll
get
into
more
of
these
details
later.
G
But
this
is
essentially
a
summary
chart
that
we've
prepared
that
show
all
the
existing
issues
that
we
were
the
major
buckets
of
issues
that
we
were
trying
to
address
with
the
existing
roadway
and
how
we
were
able
to
achieve
those
within
the
proposed
layout
and
largely.
We
feel
successful
in
being
able
to
accomplish
that.
H
Now
I'll
go
through
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
recommended
design
and
the
layout
as
becca
talked
about
the
recommended
design
is
based
on
a
combination
of
policies
and
plans,
as
well
as
input
and
technical
analysis
on
this
slide.
There's
a
snapshot
of
the
of
the
layout
or
a
portion
of
it
and
the
full
layout
is
on
the
on
the
website.
H
The
recommended
design
includes
consistent
sidewalk
faith
along
the
corridor.
It
has
a
two-way
sidewalk
level,
bikeway.
So
behind
the
curb
between
generally
between
lake
street
and
franklin
avenue,
there
are
two
full-time
transit
lanes
which
are
shown
in
red
on
this
snapshot.
H
H
H
And
then,
finally,
this
section
shows
what
it
looks
like
where
the
parking
and
loading
bays
are
incorporated.
These
are
the
in
general.
The
most
constrained
points
that
we
have.
You
can
see
the
boulevard
space
on
one
side
has
to
get
narrower
to
fit
in
the
parking
bay
and
then
in
this
example.
The
parking
bay
is
next
to
the
bicycle
facility.
G
So,
just
to
dive
into
these
a
bit
more
in
terms
of
pedestrian
design-
and
I
know
you're
all
aware
of
this,
but
just
to
kind
of
highlight
hennepin
avenue-
is
on
the
city's
high
injury
network,
which
basically
means
that
pedestrians
are
over
represented
in
injury
crashes,
and
so
that's
an
issue,
a
major
safety
issue
for
this
corridor.
G
You
also
are
aware
that
there
are
narrow
side
box
and
some
blocks,
particularly
on
the
north
end
of
the
of
the
corridor
as
well,
and
then,
according
to
new
transportation
action
policy
guidance,
it
is
on
the
pedestrian
priority
network
as
well.
So
those
are
basically
what
we're
working
with
in
terms
of
existing
conditions
and
context
in
terms
of
the
overall
recommended
design.
G
We
have
processing
distance
on
the
corridor.
So
currently
it's
a
60
feet
curve
to
curb
cross
section
and
it
would
be
reduced
by
six
to
ten
feet
depending
upon
location
throughout
the
corridor.
We
are
including
a
couple
of
nice
pedestrian
crossing
features,
specifically
at
fremont
avenue
and
25th,
and
a
half
street
which
do
include
signals
or
including
curb
extensions
as
well
on
some
of
the
cross
or
the
intersecting
streets
were
feasible,
but
that
isn't
necessarily
practical
on
the
head
of
an
avenue
corridor.
G
As
we
have
the
curbside
running
bus
lanes,
we
have
worked
with
property
owners,
either
close
or
consolidate
several
driveways
along
the
corridor,
and
essentially
the
typical
section
is
really
eight
foot
sidewalks
from
lake
street
to
franklin
as
well
as
six
foot
sidewalks
north
of
franklin.
So
that's
a
typical
section.
A
I
just
did
actually
about
that.
Sorry,
perfect,
I'm
just
hearing
the
same
thing,
so
I
was
doing
it
before
he
said
it
so
mike
I'll
have
to
meet
you
again
and
then
you
can
unmute
it.
So
the
it's
your
phone
that
we're
picking
up
the
static
phone
so
becca,
please
proceed.
G
Great
thanks
in
terms
of
bicycle
design
and
again
just
to
you
know,
cover
the
existing
context
and
conditions.
As
you
all
are
aware,
there's
no
dedicated
bicycle
facility
out
on
the
hennepin
avenue
corridor,
similar
to
the
pedestrian
issues.
It's
also
in
the
high
injury
network,
as
it
relates
to
bicycle
crashes
again
over
represented
in
injury
crashes
and
according
to
the
new
policy
guidance
in
the
transportation
action
plan.
It
is
on
our
old
ages
and
abilities
bicycle
network,
which
really
translates
into
us
needing
to
install
a
protective
bikeway
facility
on
the
corridor.
G
So
in
terms
of
recommended
design,
it
is
a
sidewalk
level,
as
jonette
mentioned,
protected
two-way
bikeway
on
the
east
side
of
hennepin
avenue,
it
is
typically
ten
feet
in
width.
It
does
go
down
to
about
eight
feet
at
some
of
the
constrained
locations,
but
it
does
also
account
for
the
intersecting
or
the
protected
bikeways
on
the
cross
with
the
intersecting
streets
east
of
hennepin
avenue.
G
I
do
think
it's
important
to
note
that
we
did
look
at
bikeways
on
other
streets,
so
we
did
look
at
impacts.
Other
we
looked
at
hybrid
options.
We
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
options,
but
they
didn't
meet
our
city
goals
and
policies,
and
there
were
lots
of
other
trade-offs,
including
significant
parking
removal
on
those
alternative
routes.
We
also
did
evaluate
one-way
bike
ways,
which
is
typically
what's
preferred
so
having
a
bikeway
on
each
side
of
the
street
as
opposed
to
a
joined
facility
on
the
east
side.
G
We've
worked
with
metro
transit
to
extract
data
to
better
understand
how
that
has
impacted
transit
travel
times,
and
they
have
improved
them
15
to
18
on
average
and
they've
also
improved
transit
reliability
from
50
to
75
percent.
As
you
are
probably
also
aware,
I
feel,
like
I've
said
that
a
lot
but
the
brt,
the
elin
brt.
This
is
one
segment
of
a
larger
14
mile
long
quarter,
extending
from
edina
into
st
paul,
and
this
is
one
small
segment
of
that
quarter.
G
We
do
know,
based
on
the
analysis
that
we've
done,
that
transit
rioters
do
have
a
destination
typically
near
or
adjacent
to
the
hempen
avenue
corridor
and
similar
to
both
bike
and
ped
as
a
result
of
the
transportation
action
plan.
This
is
a
transit
priority
network
corridor
in
the
city,
in
fact,
it
has
the
second
highest
ridership
outside
of
downtown.
G
So
with
that
said,
the
recommended
design
is
24,
7,
full-time,
dedicated
transit
lanes
from
douglas
avenue
to
the
uptown
transit
station.
There
will
be
three
brt
staff,
specifically
at
franklin
and
25th,
and
then
utilizing
the
existing
uptown
transit
station,
but
there
will
be
correlated
with
a
reduced
number
of
local
stops,
which
is
typical
for
the
brt
planning
work.
G
I
do
want
to
say
that
one
statistic
that
we
did
get
from
met
council
or
metro
transit
was
just
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
brt
and
how
that
is
still
carrying
people
during
the
pandemic,
essentially
through
the
end
of
2020,
the
brt
service.
So,
on
the
a
and
the
c
lines
that
currently
exist
in
the
city
d
is
being
billed
out,
this
would
be
e.
G
H
Looking
at
the
aspects
of
the
design
as
they
relate
to
vehicles,
the
existing
conditions
has
two
lanes
in
each
direction,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
trying
to
address
is
is
really
the
sort
of
ineffective
use
of
those
two
lanes
in
each
direction.
There
is
a
lot
of
lane
changing
that
happens
today,
because
people
are
trying
to
go
around
a
bus
or
they're
trying
to
go
around
a
left
turner
that
might
be
turning
mid-block,
so
that
does
result
to
both
in
both
congestion
and
in
safety.
H
Issues
which
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
left
turns
are
not
allowed
at
most
of
the
inter
at
most
of
the
signals
during
that
morning
and
evening
peak
hour.
So
that
has
some
impact
on
on
circulation
as
well
as
traffic
flow
we've
mentioned.
This
corridor
is
on
the
high
injury
network
not
only
for
pedestrian
and
bicycles,
but
also
for
motor
vehicle
crashes.
H
The
recommended
design
does
have
one
through
lane
in
each
direction.
What
that
means
is
that
the
buses
are
really
moved
out
of
that
travel
lane
they're
in
their
dedicated
space.
H
There
are
left
turn
lanes
at
key
intersections,
which
I'll
show
on
the
next
slide
and
where
there
are
left
turn
lanes.
That
means
those
left
turns
can
happen
all
day,
they're
not
restricted
during
it.
During
any
of
the
peak
hours
there
are
medians
to
reduce
some
of
those
left
turn
conflicts
left
turns
are
really
the
the
biggest
safety
concern
not
only
for
vehicles
but
for
pedestrian
bikes
as
well.
H
So
managing
those
left
turn
conflicts
is
part
of
the
recommended
design
and
then,
on
the
north
end
at
franklin
and
at
the
south
end
between
lagoon
and
lake
street.
We
do
have
more
vehicle
lanes
there.
As
we
see
there
are
higher
traffic
volumes
and
a
need
for
greater
vehicle
capacity
in
those
sections.
H
Parking
has
been
a
significant
topic
of
analysis,
analysis
and
discussion
on
this
project.
There
are
311
existing
on-street
spaces
on
hennepin
avenue
between
douglas
avenue
and
lake
street,
but
that's
just
one
piece
of
the
overall
parking
resources,
so
we
also
looked
at
on-street
spaces
on
the
nearby
blocks
within
one
block
of
hennepin,
as
well
as
parking
lots
and
parking
ramps,
and
there
are
a
total
of
3
600
spaces
total
between
douglas
avenue
and
lake
street.
H
The
recommended
design
has
20
parking
spaces
which
are
in
loading
or
they're
in
bays
on
hennepin
avenue,
and
we
recognize
that
that
is
not
enough
spaces
to
meet
some
of
the
needs
of
businesses
and
residents
in
the
corridor,
and
so
we've
heard
that-
and
we
certainly
take
that
seriously.
H
So
the
recommended
design
is
to
have
district
parking
strategies
along
the
corridor
and
that's
what
you
see
in
this
yellow
shading
we've
identified
some
targeted
blocks
where,
where
we
think
that
would
be
needed,
based
on
existing
parking
resources
and
and
where
we
were
able
to
fit
on
street
parking
on
hennepin
avenue
and
district
parking
solutions,
really
what
that
means.
There's
a
number
of
strategies
that
could
be
used,
but
it's
intended
to
encompass
a
more
global
view.
So
not
looking
at
black,
not
looking
at
individual
properties
or
individual.
H
Sections
of
the
quarter,
but
taking
a
holistic
view
and
approach,
so
some
of
those
strategies
could
involve
short-term
zones
on
other
streets
meters.
There
is
a
the
city
will
be
starting
a
curbside
management
policy,
starting
in
2022,
we'll
be
working
on
that
which
will
help
to
define
what
exactly
those
strategies
are
and
where
they're
implemented.
H
And
this
is
just
another
graphic
that
illustrates
the
idea
about
the
overall
parking
resources
and
how
we
use
that
to
help
identify
kind
of
the
areas
that
most
needed
to
accommodate
some
of
those
parking
bays
on
hennepin
and
then,
where
some
of
those
other
district
parking
strategies
would
likely
be
needed
as
well.
H
Some
of
the
elements
that
are
not
on
the
recommended
layout
but
may,
but
are
certainly
under
the
purview
of
the
special
service
district
and
maybe
of
of
interest
for
discussion.
So
what
happens
in
the
green
spaces
is
not
identified
as
part
of
the
recommended
layout
that
gets
worked
out
in
design
that
can
include
enhanced
streetscape,
which
is
typically
funded
and
maintained
by
special
service
districts.
H
We
have
a
recommended
layout
that
is
out
for
public
comment
and
anticipate,
bringing
that
to
the
city
council
in
later
in
quarter,
one
so
february
march
time
frame.
Then
there
is
a
final
engineering
phase
that
will
continue
through
2022
and
2023,
with
construction
anticipated
to
begin
in
spring
of
2024.
H
There
is
a
link
to
a
comment
form
and
we're
accepting
comments
through
that
form
through
the
january
28th,
and
there
is
a
public
meeting
on
next
week
january
13th,
and
so
the
link
to
that
meeting
is
also
on
the
website.
It's
it's
a
teams
meeting
as
well.
A
Very
good,
as
we
do
for
our
meetings,
what
we,
what
I'm
proposing
advisory
board
members
is
this.
This
next
portion
of
the
agenda
would
be
dedicated
to
q,
a
from
advisory
board
members
and
then,
with
some
time
left
on
the
agenda.
We
would
like
to
open
up
a
comment
period
for
any
members
of
the
public
that
have
have
joined
us
so
with.
C
A
C
Yes,
hi,
if
I
could
ask
thank
you
guys
for
the
presentation.
I
know
how
difficult
it's
been
on.
All
of
you
and
many
times
the
the
comments
from
people
have
not
been
so
friendly,
and
I
know
that
you
guys
understand
that
that,
from
our
standpoint
and
from
the
business
community
standpoint
that
this
is
not
acceptable,
but
I
had
a
couple
questions
becca
for
you.
First,
I
guess
I
wanted
to
ask
you.
C
If
you
could
tell
us
what
that
means,
who
has
blessed
it
and
we've
not
heard
of
any
blessings
official
blessings
that
have
been
given
to
this?
So
you
know
that
was
the
first
question
I
had
for
you.
Can
you
tell
us
who
has
blessed
this
at
the
city
council.
G
G
Think,
if
you
I
know
you
have,
but
I'm
sure
that
many
participants
on
this
call
have
been
quoted
in
the
paper
or
have
there
have
been
suggestions
in
the
paper
one
way
or
another,
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
truncated
form
of
what
was
said.
That's
not
accurate.
G
We
didn't
say
that
it
had
the
blessing
of
the
city
council,
so
you
know
to
see
some
of
those
things
in
print
is
frustrating
because
I
do
think
it's
misleading
and
it
sets
a
narrative
that,
like
a
decision,
has
already
been
made,
I
think,
as
we've
been
very
transparent
in
all
of
our
meetings
with
you.
You
know
this
is
part
of
a
capital
project
process.
You
know
we
present
a
bunch
of
alternatives,
we
narrow
it
down
and
then
we
move
forward
as
a
department
as
a
department,
a
department
picks
right.
G
You
know
how
we
move
forward
with
a
recommended
design.
The
last
round
of
engagement,
as
is
typical
with
capital
projects,
is
it's
more
of
an
informed
right
like
this
is
the
recommended
design
that
we're
bringing
forward
we're
interested
in
hearing
refinements?
How
can
we
make
adjustments?
You
know
if
our
district
parking
strategy
is
totally
off
and
every
street
should
be.
G
Metered
then
tell
us
that
you
know
there's
certain
things
that
we
can
adjust
and
modify,
but
usually
it's
very
detail-oriented
that
point
now,
ultimately,
you
know
there's
obviously
some
major
changes
that
are
occurring
with
the
city
government.
We
have
new
city
council
members,
we're
changing
forms
of
government.
The
whole
point
of
this
last
round
right
is
that
we
take
not
just
what
we've
heard
in
the
first
and
the
second
rounds,
but
also
the
final
round,
and
we
share
that
with
the
decision
makers.
We
are
not
the
decision
makers.
G
We
are
developing
a
recommendation
based
on
policies
that
have
been
adopted
by
the
city
council
and
typically
endorsed
by
the
mayor
right,
and
then
we
build
off
of
that
to
create
something
to
share
now.
The
city
council
could
make
a
different
decision
and
they
are
very
well
entitled
to
do
that.
So
it
is
frustrating
to
see
articles
in
print
that
it's
that's,
that's
not
what
was
conveyed.
It
was
maybe
perhaps
what
was
interpreted
during
a
very
long
conversation,
and
you
know
the
conversation
was
30
45
minutes
or
something
like
that
and
then
we'd
get.
G
You
know,
200
words
in
a
paper
and
it's
a
very
condensed
version,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
sometimes
that
results
in
misleading
things
that
were
said,
but
that's
not
what
was
communicated
and
to
be
very
clear.
The
city
council
and
the
mayor
will
make
the
ultimate
decision
on
whatever
layout
advances
for
final
approval.
So
I
want
to
be
very
clear
about
that.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I
had
two
more
questions
and
one
of
them
is
to
alan.
Please.
I've
asked
a
couple
times
for
an
example
of
either
other
streets
in
this
city
or
in
other
cities
that
have
had
a
similar
type
of
improvement
or
or
work
done
to
it,
and
I
have
not
received
that
from
you
or
anyone
else,
and
I
think
it's
important
for
me,
and
and
perhaps
for
some
people
in
our
group
to
see
where
this
has
been
successful,
because
I've
not
seen
anywhere
else
in
this
city
that
this
has
been
done.
C
I
Okay,
hey
jeff
good
good
morning
again,
you
know
so.
We've
had
so
many
conversations,
I'm
going
to
forget
the
exact
conversations.
Maybe
you
and
I
have
had
a
couple
yeah.
You
know
it's
two
years
here,
so
I
don't
remember
every
single
one
in
detail.
I
know
we've
chatted
about
this.
You
know
a
couple
comments
I
want
to.
I
want
to
say,
and
we
can
share
more
for
you
later.
I
don't
know
that
I
have
with
me
right
now.
Definitely
this
is
a
I'm
going
to
go
from
general
to
specific.
I
So
just
indulge
me
for
a
moment
here.
This
is
a
trend,
we're
seeing
I'll
say
in
our
industry
in
terms
of
how
we
modernize
our
designs,
how
we
meet
our
policy
goals,
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
the
speech
that
joannette
and
becca
made,
but
it's
the
sorts
of
features
that
we're
looking
at.
You
see
bits
and
pieces
of
this
on
many
of
our
projects.
To
date
you
know
recently
rebuilding
grand
avenue
we
have
bryant
in
the
queue.
I
I
You
know
I
think
hennepin
maybe
has
a
bit
more
of
it
just
in
terms
of
the
nature
of
the
corridor
where
we
are
in
terms
of
all
the
policy
guidance
from
the
past
couple
years
and
now
we're
having
a
chance
to
kind
of
manifest
those
and
demonstrate
those
and
deploy
those
in
the
real
world
situation.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
have
a
one
for
one
that
I
can
show
you
in
the
city
in
terms
of.
Are
there
other
examples
throughout
the
industry
throughout
the
nation?
I
There
are
we've
kind
of
studied
some
of
those
it's
something
I
have
to
look
into
more
to
maybe
get
back
to,
but
I
mean
we
when
we
go
to
the
conferences,
we
read
the
journals
in
our
industry,
this
complete
streets
framework.
I
guess
that's
one
way
of
calling
this
this
sort
of
project.
I
We
use
the
term
complete
streets
to
say
that
we're
trying
to
hit
all
our
model
priorities
very,
very
big
topic
in
our
industry
and
it's
one
of
the
things
we're
working
on
outside
throughout
the
country
to
have
roads
that
have
these
sort
of
characteristics.
So
I
I
I
don't
have
an
example
for
you
that
I
can
name
by
name
and
a
city
in
a
street
with
you
now,
but
that's
something
we
can
follow
up
with.
C
Thank
you
and
I've
got
two
more
things.
First.
Is
I'd
like
to
ask
that,
in
addition
to
the
work
that
you're
doing
with
this
plan,
is
that
you
also
add
in
the
previous
plan
of
the
activity
block
from
lake
to
31st,
because
when
you
look
at
the
businesses
and
you
look
at
at
the
street,
it's
I
think
that
the
work
from
31st
to
36,
because
it
was
primarily
a
residential
core
that
that's
something
that
should
have
been
separate
from
the
work.
C
That's
being
done
right
now,
and
the
activity
center
should
have
been
added
into
that,
so
that
you
could.
You
could
have
an
overall
flow
if
I'm
making
sense
to
you
guys
what
I'm
saying
in
particular
is.
Could
you
also
we
look
at
with
this
entire
plan,
the
stretch
from
lake
street
to
31st?
That's
my
request.
I
know
you've
gotten
a
lot
of
of
of
input
as
to
how
that
could
work
better
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
incorporated
in
the
overall
plan.
C
The
business
community
is
has
spoken
and
we've
also
heard
from
residents.
What
would
you
do
right
now
as
an
alternative
to
add
more
parking
in
this
plan?
What
would
you
do
show
us
an
option,
and
maybe
you
can
tell
us
right
now
something
that
you've
done
in
the
past,
that
you've
looked
at
that
or
show
us
a
plan
that
you've
looked
at
it.
But
but
that's
my
question
is:
if
I
was
the
mayor
looking
at
you
right
now
now
telling
you
this
plan
is
unacceptable,
telling
you
you
need
to
add
more
parking.
G
G
I
can't
really
pretend
with
the
mayor,
because
the
mayor
is
the
mayor
and
the
conversations
that
we
have
with
the
mayor
would
are
internal
at
this
point
and
the
mayor
will
come
out
publicly
with
whatever
his
recommendation
is,
and
at
this
point
I
simply
cannot
speculate
what
that
will
be-
and
I
know
he's
hearing
concerns
but
he's
also
hearing
support.
I
think
what
he's
hearing
is
pretty
balanced
from
the
community
and
that's
been
part
of
the
issue
all
along,
so
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
what
we're
going
to
do.
G
Once
we
hear
from
the
mayor
we'll
we'll
work
through
that
when
we
get
there-
and
I
think
you
know-
we've-
we've
worked
and
presented
multiple
different
options
and
it's
kind
of
come
through
a
course
right
of
starting
with
more
and
dialing
down
to
this
recommended
version,
and
if,
if
the
mayor's
opinion
differs,
then
the
public
works
department
will
figure
it
out.
I
The
mayor,
I'm
jackman,
I'm
gonna,
commend
becca.
I
think
I'll
see
us
with
this
mom
my
face.
Jeff
was.
It
was
a
a
good
example
of
a
hypothetical
question
and
if
it
were
to
come
up
with
it
at
that
point,
but
we
you
know
we're
dealing
with
the
policies
that
are
guiding
work
now
with
a
very
sincere
recommendation
and
that's
really
what
we
want
to
present
to
you
for
now.
Okay,
thanks
guys
thanks.
F
F
F
I
know
there's
a
resolution
right
now
with
the
lowry
hill
special
service
district
and
also
that
the
uptown
special
service
district
is
probably
gonna
also
do
the
same
to
not
recommend
this
project
to
go
back
to
square
one
and
be
able
to
put
this
in
something
that
the
business
owners
and
that
relying
on
parking
and
everything
like
that
are
to
be
part
of
that
process
as
well
to
come
together
with
a
better
plan.
F
So
I
guess
that's
the
biggest
concern
that
we
have
as
business
owners
and
the
feedback
that
we're
getting
from
our
constituents.
Our
tenants,
our
customers,
our
clients,
is
the
fact
that
this
would,
you
know,
kill
the
business,
that's
already
struggling
and
up
down,
and
we
just
can't
afford
that.
For
that
to
happen.
At
this
time,
so
that's
the
only
comment
I
wanted
to
make.
D
Great,
thank
you
and
thanks
everybody
for
your
time.
I
know
this
hasn't
been
an
easy
project.
I'm
jumping
off
of
what
jeff
and
nick
were
talking
about
of
what
we
would
sort
of
consider
the
failure
of
the
work
on
lake
street
down
to
31st-
and
I
know
you
you've
already
come
in
and
made
some
improvements
to
that
to
try
and
mitigate
some
of
the
issues,
and
so
I
see
in
the
new
plan
you're
actually
planning
on
raised
bike
lanes
in
medians.
D
Has
there
been
any
thought
to
not
doing
such
a
permanent
plan?
So
if,
in
fact,
we
realize
this
is
again
not
a
successful
plan
for
a
business
community,
there's
a
way
to
undo
what
you've
done
or
is
the
only
option
those
raised
concrete,
whatever
they're
made
of
platform,
so
that
there's
no
way
to
fix
this
once
it's
completed.
H
I'll,
maybe
start
I
mean,
I
think,
jackie,
it's
a
good
question
about
flexibility
and
sort
of
what
things
look
like
in
the
future.
H
In
terms
of
the
median
specifically
I
mean
the
medians
are
are
one
of
the
very
high
priorities
in
terms
of
safety,
and
we
wouldn't
really
be
achieving
the
safety
objectives
on
the
project
without
that
median,
and
so
that
piece
in
particular,
is
is
just
a
really
important
element
of
the
overall
corridor
design.
H
I
Hey
general,
maybe
I'll
jump
in
jack.
If
I
think
I
heard
in
your
question
also
in
addition
to
the
media
discussion
of
the
bike
facility
and
how
that
might
be
implemented-
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
actually
one
of
the
things
we
did
learn
from
that
black
lake
to
31st.
What
we
call
the
activity
block
was
that
you
know
for
quarter
like
this.
With
high
volumes
of
cars,
people
have
higher
volumes
of
bicycles.
I
You
know,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
bike
facility,
it
really
needs
well,
and
we've
referred
to
it,
it's
what
we
call
aaa
network
all
ages
and
ability,
or
it's
a
high
caliber
network.
We
need
to
have
an
appropriate
facility,
so
kind
of
long
story
short.
I
think
a
bike
facility,
like
we
have
in
that
first
block
like
the
31st,
which
is
censored
just
a
painted
lane,
really
doesn't
provide
the
protection
and
safety
and
ease
of
use
for
the
bicyclist
causes
some
confusion.
I
Some
of
the
shared
uses
going
on
here
so
in
terms
of
you
know,
have
we
learned
anything
from
that
first
block,
and
that
is
really
something.
We
have
learned
that
if
we're
going
to
commit
to
a
bike
facility
on
this
corridor,
it's
going
to
be
a
high-tech
design
which
I'll
just
say
by
definition,
kind
of
takes
away
some
of
the
flexibility
that
maybe
theoretically
you're
hoping
a
design
could
have.
D
Thank
you.
Another
question
I
have
is
you.
You've
certainly
talked
about
some
sort
of
curbside
strategy,
some
sort
of
universal
parking
strategy
within
uptown
that
has
not
yet
been
developed.
Is
there
a
reason
why
that
wasn't
developed
as
a
part
of
the
project
so
that
we
could
look
at
a
comprehensive
plan
instead
of
looking
at
this
as
a
standalone
project.
I
Hey
jake,
let
me
start
with
that,
and
I
urge
my
colleagues
to
join
in
with
me.
I
think
it's
a
cop,
two
or
three
reasons
I
want
to
give
you-
and
maybe
you
just
kind
of
weave
these
all
together
one
is
that
I
think
it's
the
natural
sort
of
timeline
and
form
of
development
of
a
project
and
when
we
deal
with
different
ideas
or
characteristics
or
what
have
you
and
certainly
physical
construction,
I
mean
that's
the
sort
of
thing
we
need
to
design
out
in
advance.
I
That's
the
sort
of
thing
we
need
to
prepare
for
budget
for
etc,
based
on
what
our
resulting
recommendation
is
and
then
based
on
what
the
city
council
goes
forward
with,
you
know,
that'll
then
set
the
table
for
what
are
some
of
our
operational
tools
and
operational
items
that
we'll
be
working
with
in
the
coming
years.
So
I
think
part
of
is
just
kind
of
order
of
operations
and
when
we
get
to
different
things,
so
we're
not
trying
to
hide
anything
by
no
means
already
trying
to
hide
anything.
I
I
think
there's
some
things
that
just
kind
of
don't
get
more
fully.
You
know
fully
developed
into
later
in
the
process.
So
that's
mainly
point
number
one
point
number
two,
but
I
don't.
Although
let
me
kind
of
introduce
myself
on
point
number
one,
but
we've
been
very
open.
I
feel
in
saying
what
what
are
the
certain
tools
and
techniques
we're
going
to
start
working
towards
we're,
not
trying
to
hide
that
aspect
and
then
maybe
point
to
where
this
kind
of
all
folds
together.
I
Is
you
know
this
is
a
federally
funded
project,
we've
kind
of
mentioned
a
few
times.
It
has
a
2024
construction
start
time.
The
federal
development
process
is
a
bit
longer
than
some
of
our
normal
processes,
so
we've
kind
of
been
out
to
the
neighborhoods,
probably
a
lot
sooner
than
we
would.
You
know,
typically
for
2024
project
and
partly
where
I'm
going
with,
that
is
that
we're
almost
a
little
bit
ahead
of
ourselves
and
what
some
of
our
other
city
policies
and
endeavors
are
going
to
be.
Let
me
be
very
specific
what
I
mean
by
that.
I
You
know
we
referenced
the
transportation
action
plan
which
was
adopted
last
year.
There's
a
lot
of
prescriptive
ideas
in
policies
and
network
comments
within
that
document,
there's
one
or
two
things
that
were
not
quite
finalized
in
that
document,
but
rather
were
work
elements
that
we're
going
to
carry
forward
and
one
of
those
that
internet,
I
think
refer
to
this
as
development
of
a
city-wide
curbside
management
policy.
It's
going
to
make
a
long
story
short.
I
That
is
something
that
the
city
is
undertaking
by
direction
from
the
transaction
action
plan
from
direction
from
the
council
and
we'll
be
working
on
that
citywide
curbside
management
policy,
of
which
hennepin
is
the
kind
of
part
of
that
in
a
way
it's
almost
the
leading
edge
of
that
so
to
speak.
So
it
is
something
we'll
be
working
on
the
next
couple
years
and
I'll
just
sum
up
another
kind
of
rambling
here-
and
it's
also
something
that's
more
of
you
know
it's
an
operational
sort
of
thing.
I
It
has
to
do
with
how
we
mark
the
curve,
how
we
sign
the
curve,
what
we
need
or
things
like,
that
it's
not
capital
construction
and
moving
around
curb
and
concrete
and
so
forth.
So
it's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
can
do
in
the
interview
in
a
couple
of
years
now,
as
we
get
ready
for
the
construction,
so
again
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
information
there
jack.
I
We
just
want
to
kind
of
let
you
know
that
where
we
are
in
the
process-
and
you
know
we're
going
to
actually
come
up,
that's
something
we're
committed,
and
we've
been
very
honest
about
this.
I'm
committed
to
working
with
you
know,
groups
like
yourselves
and
others.
You
know
we're
not
leaving
the
era.
We
want
to
work
with
you.
We
know
we
need
to
have
some
changes
in
operations
and
that's
really
one
of
our
you
know.
One
of
our
endeavors
for
the
next
couple
years
is
to
work
that
out.
D
So
I
I
have
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it.
I
have
one
more
question.
I
know
bob
wants
to
speak
as
well
were
any
of
the
residents
who
were
sort
of
shared
the
information
and
given
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
this
plan,
were
they
informed
that
they
might
in
fact
be
losing
parking
near
their
residential
units
because
it
becomes
that
sort
of
the
loading
zone,
parking
or
maybe
metered
parking,
or
things
like
that
that
will
negatively
impact
their
ability
to
live
in
the
district.
D
I
Yeah,
okay,
sure
so
I'll
be
I'll,
be
quite
direct.
If
you
know,
if
you're
implying
or
not
playing
just
asking
like,
has
it
been
like
door-to-door
door-knocking
and
speaking
to
a
specific
apartment,
building
or
whatnot.
Of
course
we
haven't
gone
to
that
level,
yet
I
think
we've
been
opening
in
as
part
of
this
engagement
around
now
and
seeing
what
our
thoughts
are
and
what
our
plans
are
for
the
future,
and
it's
why
we
have
the
maps
and
the
graphics
and
show
where
these
areas
are
that
we're
looking
at
and
as
we
get
into.
I
Actually,
you
know
working
with
a
specific
block.
That
would
be
the
time
frame
in
which
we
engage
those
people.
So
you
know
much
like
anything
else.
We
do
with
a
project,
it's
kind
of.
Where
are
you
in
the
process?
When
do
you
have
that
outreach,
and,
just
frankly,
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity,
yet
we
haven't
been
at
the
point.
Yet,
where
would
we
say
speaking
to
the
people
on
black
xyz
that
just
hasn't
come
up
yet.
D
Thanks
alan,
I
I
will
say
before
turning
it
over
to
bob
it
would
have.
It
would
have
been
great
if,
in
the
past
years,
you
guys
kept
hearing
that
please
delay
the
project.
If
some
of
those
things
could
have
been
done,
I
mean
those
were
questions
we
had
a
year
ago
when
we
met
to
talk
about
those
unknown
pieces,
and
so
it
would
have
been
great
if
we
could
have
answers
at
this
point
thanks.
Everybody.
B
Hello,
my
name
is
bob
sorenson
and
I've
been
a
property
owner
as
well
as
a
business
owner
in
uptown
for
30
years
this
year.
My
block
is
the
2800
block
of
hennepin
avenue,
both
my.
B
And
adjacent
space
that
I
lease
out,
I
just
from
what
I
see
on
the
plans
there's
you
know
it
shows
that
there's
a
lot
of
parking
behind
the
commercial
buildings,
but
for
my
building,
which
is
a
4
600
square
foot,
building
for
two
businesses
there
is
one
parking
spot
as
an
example,
and
then
I
saw
on
your
map
all
this
available
parking
on
28th
street,
that
is
in
front
of
a
coffee
shop
on
one
side
of
the
street,
which
is
constantly
24
hours
a
day
there
are
those
spaces
are
always
filled.
B
So
a
lot
of
my
customers
are
elderly
people
as
well,
and
I
don't
see
them
walking
along
distance.
I
did
provide
parking
for
some
of
my
staff
in
the
mosaic
building,
but
several
felons
were
injured,
walking
to
our
business
to
come
to
work
because
you
know
in
the
ice,
sometimes
in
winter
there's
a
lot
of
ice.
B
I
just
don't
see
because
I
have
been
in
retail
all
my
adult
life
and
I've
seen
what's
happened
on
hennepin
farther
down
between
you
know,
starting
at
lake
street
to
31st.
I
have
seen
the
destination
of
a
lot
of
businesses
and
currently
my
leasable
space.
That's
empty
right
now
cannot
be
at
least
every
person
that
we
talk
to.
They
know
about
this
plan
and
I
said,
there's
no
way
my
business
can
survive.
B
Nor
do
I
believe
my
business
can
survive,
but
also
there
is
a
lot
of
businesses
doing
mail
order
on
our
block
specifically,
and
we
have
ups
ups,
fedex
and
postal
service
trucks
that
have
to
pick
up
packages
and
the
postal
service
picks
up
a
lot
of
packages
also-
and
I
don't
think
those
things
are
addressed
in
the
plan
and
also
I've
already
heard,
several
people
make
comments.
B
Well,
I'm
just
going
to
drive
in
the
bus
lane,
because
there
aren't
that
many
buses
on
this
corridor
and
my
personal
views
is,
I
see
very
few
people
riding
riding
the
bus
and
I've
walked
and
watching
them,
and
I'm
very
close
to
that
bus
transfer
station
and
I
see
very,
very
few
people
at
any
time
of
day
or
night,
and
I
have
several
security
cameras
right
on
on
my
building.
Where
I'd
look-
and
I
can
see
all
this
going
on.
I
He
bob
real
quickly
for
me
and
I
don't
believe
I've
met
you
if
I
have
had
so
many
meetings.
I
apologize
for
not
remembering,
but
you
reference
your
business,
which
one
is
it
I'm
just
kind
of
looking
at
my
google
street
view
here.
B
Bobby
b
at
28,
29
to
31
in
hennepin
avenue
and
I've
owned
that
building
since
1998.
Previously
I
was
on
lake
street,
which
was
a
building
that
jeff
I'm
proud
to
see,
owns.
A
Did
you
have
jeff
and
nicholas
next
in
the
queue
I
do
want
to
just
we're
at
about
10
minutes
left
of
the
meeting
time
and
we
haven't
yet
opened
the
public
comment
period.
So
should
we
jeff
you
want.
C
Okay,
perfect
on
the
ice
block,
you
didn't
replace
the
low
level
lights
and
you
didn't
provide
any
bike
racks
and
what's
your
intention
for
the
low
level
lights
in
your
reconstruction
and
for
bike
racks,
are
we
going
to
need
to
buy
bike
racks
and
are
we
going
to
need
to
pay
for
for
the
replacement
of
the
low
level
poles.
I
Hey
jeff,
let
me
start
with
the
like
comment:
you
would.
We
clearly
are
not
at
lighting
design
at
this
point
I'll,
just
state
that
the
basic
lighting
free
road
of
this
type
would
be
what
we
call
the
high
low
mix,
the
alternating
mix,
and
I
just
got
to
be
honest
with
you-
we're
not
at
the
lighting
design
yet,
but
that
would
be
our
starting
point
for
carter
like
this
and
bike
rack,
I
might
leave
for
someone
else.
G
I
guess
I
would
just
have
it
and
say
that
bike
rack
is
a
similar
situation.
I
can't
speak
to
what
happened
necessarily
on
the
activity
block.
I
don't
have
the
knowledge.
I
know
you
brought
it
up
at
a
meeting
recently
where
you're
like,
where
are
all
the
bike
racks?
I
just
don't
have
the
information
on
that,
but
I'm
happy
to
look
into
it.
That's
something
that
we'll
we'll
go
through.
G
A
Period-
I
don't
know
if
any
members
of
the
public
who
have
joined
us
would
like
to
make
a
comment
to
the
advisory
board.
We
do
allow
up
to
three
minutes
per
speaker
at
this
point.
No
one
has
indicated
they
want
to
say
anything,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we.
I
had
a
few
minutes.
If
someone
does.
A
Anybody
aaron,
I
see
you
raised
your
hand.
J
I
just
had
a
couple
quick
design
questions
regarding
how
I've
I've
you
know,
as
I
look
at
the
the
drawing
and
see
what
appears
to
me
to
be
a
very
close
proximity
and
not
very
much
buffer
between
bus,
where
I'd
expect
you
know,
bus,
pickup
and
and
drop
off
to
happen,
passengers
exiting
and
entering
the
bus
and
the
bike,
the
the
bike
lane
being
what
appears
to
me
to
be
very
close
to
that?
J
It
looks
to
me,
like
those
things
are
just
very
close
together
and
in
situations
where
you
may
have
either
people
with
children
getting
on
or
off
the
bus
or
people,
persons
with
disabilities
getting
on
and
off
the
bus
to
just
you
know
have
you
know
to
be,
and
you
know
they
had
to
have
to
cross
the
bike
path
to
get
to
the
pedestrian
walkway.
J
That
was
one
question
that
I
had
about
just
the
from
a
design
standpoint
that
seemed
to
me
questionable.
That
was
my
first
question.
I
have
a
second
one.
J
Sure
the
other
one's
sort
of
a
similar
kind
of
scenario
just
on
the
design
side
and
just
as
picking
an
example,
the
kowalski's,
let's
say
so
now
you
know
today,
if
I'm
making
a
left
turn
into
goal.
You
know
from
going
north
on
hennepin
making
a
left
into
kowalski's.
I
did
make
a
left
turn
crossing
over
the
other
side
of
traffic
to
get
into
that
parking
lot
with
the
new
design
and
that
median
being
there.
You
know
the
the
way
that
that
will
flow
will
be
me
going
to.
J
I
believe
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
I
believe
is
it
25th,
and
then
I
don't
know
it's
24th
and
then
fremont
so
now,
looking
at
that
left
turn
wayne
to
do
that.
How
long
is
that
left
turn
lane?
So
if
you're,
you
know
if
it's
like.
J
You
know
that
time
of
day
where
you
may
have
a
lot
of
people
making,
those
left
from
chipotle
was
another
example
further
up
like
if
it's
lunchtime-
and
I
can't-
and
I
have
to
make
a
left
turn
there
and
you
know,
there's
five
people
who
are
going
to
chipotle
at
one
time.
You
know
how
big
is
that
left
turn
well,
how
long
is
that
left?
Turning
how
many
deals
vehicles
can
that
have
standing
waiting
to
turn
at
one
time
worrying
about
kind
of
backing
up
traffic
into
the
one
traffic
lane
behind
it?
H
I
can
I
can
respond
to
the
to
the
transit
station
question
first
and
actually,
the
the
similar
condition
that
I
would
point
you
towards
is
actually
on
hennepin
avenue
in
downtown.
H
There's
actually
been
quite
a
lot
of
research
about
how
best
to
manage
transit
stations,
particularly
brt
stations,
with
a
bikeway,
that's
also
behind
the
curb,
and
how
to
manage
people
trying
to
move
in
and
out
of
the
bus
stop
area
as
well
as
bikes,
and
so
there
are
specific
strategies.
That
is
something
we
look
at
really
closely
in
terms
of
how
to
do
that.
Like
I
mentioned
there
are,
there
is
an
example
downtown
and
there's
some
specific
features
to
help
with
that
movement
across
the
bike
facility.
A
In
the
left
turn
cueing.
Well,
I
don't
know
if
that's
you
have
a
sense
of
how
many
cars
is.
I
think
that
was
this
question.
H
But
I
mean
I,
I
would
say
the
in
terms
of
the
length
of
the
left
turn
lanes.
It's
a
good
question,
the
exact
length
of
those
I'm
not
sure
what
we'll
end
up
with.
I
would
guess
it's
the
in
the
three
to
four
cars
is
probably
where
we'll
be
in
terms
of
left
turn
lane
length
as
with
everything
it.
H
It
certainly
is
a
balance
at
that
location
that
aaron
mentioned
specifically
we're
trying
not
to
impact
that
existing
pocket
park
with
the
trees
and
the
plantings
that
are
in
the
circular
area
and
as
well
as
transition
to
the
south,
where
we
are
showing
a
proposed
bay.
The
more
space
we
dedicate
to
left
turns
the
less
space
there
is
for
other
things.
So
you
know
it's
it's
a
trade-off
sort
of
on
every
foot
along
this
along
the
avenue
internet.
I
May
both
jump
in
quickly.
I
know
we're
almost
the
time
here,
but
aaron.
A
comment
I
make
is
one
of
the
advantages
of
having
these
left
turn
base
right.
That's
obviously
different
than
we
have
there
today
is.
We
can
then
have
the
left
turn
arrows.
We
can
do
some
signal
operation
techniques
to
expedite
the
movements
and
those
are
details
we'll
be
working
out,
but
the
left
turn
section
gives
us
that
flexibility.
That
will
be
very
helpful.
A
With
that,
I
don't
see
anyone
else
who
members
of
the
public
who
have
indicated
they
want
to
ask
a
question
nicholas.
I
will
come
back
to
you.
I
know
you
had
your
hand
raised
a
few
minutes
ago.
We
have
just
three
minutes
left.
A
Good,
very
good,
any
other
final
questions.
A
All
right,
well
with
that,
I
think
we
can
adjourn
if
there
are
no
further
questions.
A
Yes,
the
advisory
board
has
the
discretion
to
to
take
in
action
if
it
would
look.
A
I
think
I
just
we've
heard
a
lot
of
things.
Someone
want
to
synthesize.
E
A
Before
we
move
on
in
discussion,
so
the
motion
is
the
ssd
advisory
board
is
not
in
support
plan.
B
K
A
Yeah
was
thinking
the
same
thing
so
then
I
just
throw
this
out
for
the
board's
consideration.
The
motion
that
the
lower
hill
ssd
board
took
this
morning
was
that
lower
hill
ssd
advisory
board
recommends
that
the
city
council
and
mayor
reject
the
proposed
is
presented
in
request
that
another
option
be
prepared.
F
For
sure
I
will
second
as
well,
and
I'm
assuming
this
is
unanimous
from
all
the
board
members.
A
So
jackie
made
the
motion.
Second,
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion?
I
can
call
the
roll
on
the
motion.
C
E
A
E
A
Good
that
motion
is
adopted
any
further.
We've
concluded
our
agenda,
I
will
it
is
noon,
so
I
will
again
thank
becca
and
jeanette
and
alan
and
her
team
for
joining
us.
A
So
we'll
let
you
guys
let
you
guys
go
so
thank
you
advisory
board
members.
Is
there
any
other
any
other
action
or
anything
else
that
we
would
like
to
accomplish?
I
will
say
that
we
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
the
the
2020
meeting
schedule
and
we
will
shortly
be
sending
out
a
hold
the
date
for
the
for
the
next
for
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
advisory
board.
With
that
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.
C
Not
yet
not
yet
jackie
did
you
want
to
bring
up
the
security
discussion
that
that
we
had?
I
sure,
at
this
point.
D
D
We
push
for
peace
as
an
alternative,
as
we
have
not
had
adequate
police
support
within
the
community
to
help
resolve
solve
a
number
of
the
issues
and
I'd
like
the
ssd
to
talk
about
what
we
can
do,
whether
it's
through
an
rfp
to
get
similar
programs
where
the
businesses
or
the
property
owners
are
being
assessed
versus
a
number
of
smaller
property
owners
trying
to
join
together
to
create
this
I'd
like
it
to
be
a
little
bit
more
organized
and
I'd
like
to
see
what
role
the
ssd
can
play
in
that.
D
A
Yeah,
we
could
add
it
to
the
next
agenda.
They
we
jeff.
Do
you
mind
if
I
mute
you,
you
know
the
type
of
clothes
all.
A
Sir,
so
as
we've
discussed
in
the
past,
so
the
ssd
could
provide
safety
services.
The
request
a
year
ago
was
the
police
buyback
program
the.
So
we
could
have
continue
the
discussion
at
the
next
meeting
in
terms
of
the
options
for
for
private
safety
services,
as
jackie
as
you
alerted
to
there
would
be
have
to
be
an
rfp
process,
so
we
have
no
ability
to
just
select.
A
You
know
a
particular
entity
to
provide
that
work,
but
security
services
are
one
of
the
eligible
services
that
the
uptown
ssd
could
provide.
Yes,.
D
Jeff,
I
I'm
not
sure
how
you
feel
about
this,
but
michael,
I
know
our
often
our
board
meetings
are
quite
full
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
for
discussion,
and
I
also
know
that
it
can
take
quite
a
while
to
get
an
rfp
out
and
then
what
the
turn
on
that
is.
Is
there
a
way
for
us
to
quickly
have
another
meeting
to
discuss
that
and
get
that
ball
moving
separate
from
the
traditional
business
meetings.
A
We
could
aim
for
a
meeting,
probably
in
february.
We
january
is
really
focused
on
closing
all
the
books
for
all
the
districts
and
doing
the
other
year
and
stuff.
So
I
think
we
could
look
at
a
date
in
february
that
could
be
focused
on
the
safety
conversation
just
trying
to
acknowledge
the
load
that
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
as
an
ssd
team.
E
A
To
some
extent,
yes,
they
are.
The
city
has
sort
of
a
standard,
rfp
process.
You
know
at
least
certain
minimums
in
terms
of
lifetime.
You
know
they
would
want
the
rfp
open
so
that
proposers
could
consider
it.
We
probably
do
sort
of
a
pre-rfp
sort
of
conference
kind
of
thing
so
for
interested
entities
so
that
that
length
of
time
is
is
I
won't
call
it
fixed,
because
I
think
we
have
to
at
least
hit
the
minimum
time.
A
A
I
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
It
feels
like
when
we've
had
this
conversation
with
procurement
staff
in
the
past.
I
want
to
say
it's
at
least
three
weeks
that
they
want
it
out
on
the
street,
but
I
don't
quote
me
on
that,
but
that's
about
probably
what
it
is
candidly,
the
longer
time
is
probably
going
to
be
synthesizing
the
service
expectations
in
that
rfp
into
a
written
document
that
can
go
out
for
rfp.
A
That
typically
takes
the
more
time
so
and
that
part
of
that
starts
with
what
are
the
advisory
boards
expectations.
The
conversation
we
can
can
have
in
february
in
terms
of
what
they
want
the
services
to
accomplish.
A
We
probably
would
do
a
draft
and
then,
as
we're,
writing
it
we,
you
know
we
might
want
to
convene
another
meeting
just
to
get
feedback
from
from
board
members
to
make
sure
we're
accomplishing
on
paper
what
the
group
has
and
what
everybody
has
in
their
mind,
so
that
process
will
take
some
time.
The
other
thing
just
to
manage
expectations,
because
when
we
start
the
spring
round
of
meetings
with
advisory
boards,
we
get
lots
of
requests
to
do
things
and
stuff
starts
piling
up.
A
So
I
think
just
to
be
clear.
You
could
not
say
that
it
could
be
implemented
this
year.
I
say
that
I
realize
it's
january
5th,
but
there
is
a
lot
on
our
workplace.
I'm
not
saying
it
can't
happen
in
this
this
calendar
year.
I'm
just
saying
I
can't
say
for
sure
that
it
it's
something
that
could
happen
just
because
of
everything
else.
We
have
on
our
workplace.
E
A
A
We
were
able
to
implement
that
within
about
three
weeks
because
it's
within
the
city
and
we
don't
need
to
do
an
rfp
process,
so
I
wasn't
thought
safety
might
come
out
today,
and
that
was
actually
one
of
the
questions.
I'll
ask
is
if
the
group
wants
to
continue
the
buy-back
program
going
into
january
and
the
rest
of
the
year
here.
So
that
is
something
that
we
could
do
immediately.
A
Yeah,
so
we
I
was
looking
at
this
a
couple
days
ago.
We
don't
have
the
december
figures
in,
but
through
the
end
of
november,
it
was
about
75,
80
000,
and
it
is
it's
not
daily,
but
the
request
is
depending
on
the
day
of
the
week.
You
know
evening
coverage
by
mpd
patrols
in
the
district
and
it's
it's
approximately
a
hundred
dollars
an
hour
for
the
overtime
officer
or
per
overtime
officer.
A
So
the
so
it's
it's
varied
anywhere
between
the
low,
I
think
was
fifteen
hundred
dollars
to
about
eleven
thousand
dollars
a
month
was
the
run
rate.
F
I
guess
I
guess
one
thing
that
I
think
is
important.
I
think
the
buy
back
program
did
help
us,
but
I
think
we
need
to.
I
think
the
the
push
for
peace
is
really
something
that
could
help
our
neighborhood
and
I
think
the
cost
factor
involved
that
hundred
dollars
an
hour
will
go
a
lot.
You
know
farther
that
money
will
go
a
lot
farther
with
push
for
peace
and
it'll,
be
people
on
the
ground
that
could
help
those
type
of
circumstances.
F
I
think
you
know
if
we
want
to
use
everything,
that's
in
our
in
our
budget
and
what
the
history,
what
we
have
left
in
our
budget
from
previous
years.
You
know
that
buyback
program
is
really
expensive
and
I
just
don't
know
how
how
successful
it
was.
You
know.
Obviously,
I
think
that
the
biggest
time
for
us
to
worry
about
is
spring
and
summer.
F
We've
got
a
really
bad
situation
when
it
comes
to
vacancies
in
our
neighborhood,
you
know
the
the
carjackings
everything
that's
going
on
a
police
department,
that's
short
staffed
that
can't
cover
the
areas
that
we
have,
so
we
can't
rely
on
them
to
provide
these
same
services
when
they
can't
even
provide
their
own
services
to
cover
our
area.
F
So
I
mean,
I
guess
you
know
it's
thinking
outside
the
box
like
graves
and
ackerberg
have
done
to
try
to
put
something
together
that
works
more
with
the
community-based
services
to
help
these
kids
that
are
causing
the
problems.
They
just
give
us
a
little
bit
more
boots
on
the
ground
for
a
reason,
more
reasonable
price,
I
think,
makes
more
sense.
That's
my
personality.
E
And
I
I
don't
disagree
anything
you
said
I
nod
my
head
and
everything
you
just
said.
My
question
is:
why
can't
we
just
have
it
all
like?
Can
we
I
don't
know
how
much
money
we
have
to
spend?
It's
just
such
an
important,
delicate
time
right
now,
I'd
like
to
spend
through
the
winter's
friend
in
the
spring
spring
in
the
summer
and
in
the
meantime,
be
working
on
an
rfp
process,
and
I
think
I
don't
think
it'd
be
an
inappropriate
move
to
just
to
blow
through
the
entire
budget
that
we
have
on
excess
funds.
E
E
A
You
potentially
have
the
I
would
say
macro
statement.
You
have
the
resources
to
do
both,
and
certainly
this
year
since
the
rfp
process
we'd
be.
If
we
can
get
it
done
implemented
this
year,
it
will
be
later
into
the
year.
So
you're,
not
you
know,
I
might
think
of
it,
as
do
the
near
term
thing
that
we
can
do
now.
Is
the
buyback
program
continue
that
and
then
you
know
in
time
we
can
get
the
rfp
process
in
place.
Presuming
it's
successful.
A
We
get
meaning
we
get
a
an
entity
that
that
you
know
meets
the
criteria
and
then,
at
that
point
you
could
evaluate
whether
you
wanted
to
dial
back
buyback
and
or
keep
it
in
place
as
a
compliment.
So
you
don't
need
to
make
that
either
or
decision
today
I
would
submit
you
can,
but
you
wouldn't
need.
F
D
Michael
to
that
end,
I'd
be
willing
to
help
work
on
the
rfp.
If,
if
there's
sort
of
a
baseline
that
you
could
send
out
that
maybe
some
others
on
this
call
and
I
could
work
on
to
craft,
so
it's
less
and
then
obviously
city
you
guys,
would
all
have
to
review
it
and
make
sure
it
meets
the
requirements.
But
if
that
would
help
move
the
process
along
more
quickly,
I'd
be
happy
to
to
play
a
role
in
that
as
well.
D
A
Jackie
there
are
some
template
examples
of
rfps.
The
one
thing
that
into
the
relationships
you
guys
have,
if
you
guys
wanted
to
send
us
whatever
the
existing
contract
looks
like
that
might
be
one
place
to
wouldn't
be
the
the
final
say
we
couldn't
just
copy
it,
but
it
would
at
least
inform
how
expectations
are
written
into
that
rfp.
Given
the
thought
that
went
into
that,
we
could
also
look
at
other
examples.
The
city
does
have
a
citywide
contract
with
various
violence,
interrupter
organizations.
A
We
could
also
look
to
that
rfb.
So
I
think
there
are
multiple
sources
we
could
look
to,
but
you
know
I
would
just
say
that
examples
help
us
and
then
we
synthesize
it
much
like
when
you're
writing
your
own
specs
for
your
businesses
right
so.
D
And
I
I
believe
the
city
actually
already
has
an
agreement
with
we
push
for
peace
in
place.
They're
one
of
the
violence
interruption
groups
that
the
city
of
minneapolis
is
working
with,
so
maybe
that
helps
move
the
process
along
as
well.
I
also
see
that
bob
has
his
hand
up.
B
B
That
was
my
only
comment
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
bob
just
appreciate
the
question:
actually
everything
that
was
damaged
last
year,
except
for
I
think
one
or
two
recycling
receptacles
has
been
repaired,
so
we've
actually
really
stayed
on
that
as
much
as
we
can.
So
we
did
have
a
big
order.
Last
year,
replacement
trash
and
recycling
receptacles
some
of
the
bike
racks.
I
think
we
lost
two
somehow
in
all
of
that,
but
the
rest
we
recover
from
various
places
and
I'll
just
repeat
just
so.
A
You
know
when
we
had
the
opportunity
we
did
go
out
and
proactively,
remove
all
the
bike
racks
in
the
district
when
it
appeared
that
there
could
be
an
issue.
A
Yeah
just
to
try
to
get
ahead
of
it
to
the
extent
that
we
could
so
just
please
know
that
the,
but
I
think
I
know
we
had
a.
We
have
a
one
damaged
recycling
receptacle
in
front
of
jute
that
appears
to
have
gotten
hit
by
the
snow
contractor.
So
that's
in
the
process
of
being
repaired
and
then
a
couple
of
other
ones.
A
We
have
actually
just
like
your
business.
We
took
the
most
cost
effective
approach.
We've
had
several
receptacles
that
have
been
had
fires
in
them,
so
we've
replaced
both
the
liner
and
where
the
paint
on
the
surface
of
the
receptacle
themselves
or
where
the
receptacle
is
fine.
But
it's
just
the
paint
finish
that
was
bad
or
damaged.
We
we're
actually
getting
those
sandblasted
and
re-powder
coated
because
it's
quite
a
bit
cheaper
than
than
buying
a
new
receptacle.
A
So
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
we
we
are
always
trying
to
take
the
you
know
the
most
practical
approach
in
how
we
make
repairs
in
the
district.
E
A
E
A
I
think
at
least
consensus
from
the
group
today.
Emotion
would
be
great
if
there
is
that
otherwise
I
mean
we
it's
in
place.
Now
we
haven't
turned
it
off
until
we
had
another
conversation
or
wanted
to
wait.
Is
there
consensus
to
continue
the
buyback
program?
B
I
think
that
if
we
go
with
the
buy
back
program,
those
are
the
only
evenings,
and
it's
starting
at
about
nine
o'clock
to
about
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
is
when
all
the
crazy
stuff
happens,
and
I
I've
got
like
several
security
cameras
right
in
front
of
my
building
and
I
watch
all
this
footage
and
it
does
get
crazy
out
there
and
but
otherwise
it's
not
that
bad
most
of
the
time
and
during
the
week
I
don't
believe
we
need
it.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
improvements.
B
K
We
had
a
thank
you,
michael.
We
had
a
single
agenda
item
for
today's
meeting.
This
has
been
helpful
in
terms
of
determining
what
needs
to
be
included
in
the
next
agenda.
So
to
michael's
point:
if
you
want
to
email
those
suggestions,
we
can
incorporate
those
into
the
next
meeting
agenda,
but
just
in
in
terms
of
notification
to
the
public,
we
had
a
single
item
to
be
discussed.
K
We've
kind
of
gone
beyond
that,
but
if
you
want
to
get
those
comments
to
to
us
so
that
they
can
be
incorporated
into
the
next
regular
meeting
agenda,
that
would
be
appreciated.
A
Sounds
good
well,
well,
canvas
everybody!
For
a
february
meeting,
my
only
closing
comment:
we
revamped
your
holiday
lighting
this
year,
we
refurbished
all
of
your
seasonal
decor.
Hopefully
you've
noticed
if
you
haven't,
please
take
a
look.
We
think
it's
never
looked
better,
but
we're
looking
for
opinions
from
you
guys
as
well.
A
So
and
it's
also
functioning
a
lot
better
because
we've
gone
all
leds
for
everything.
So
again,
I
would
encourage
you
if
you're,
not
in
the
district
at
night.
Please
take
a
look.
We
welcome
your
feedback
either
via
email,
offline
or
at
the
next
meeting.
With
that
we
are
really
long.
So
maybe
we
should
best
to
conclude
our
meeting
here
unless
there's
anything
else
and
everybody
wants
to
mention
and
we're
about
to
lose
our
quorum
anyway.
So
with
that,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.
A
Any
discussion,
any
opposition
to
the
motion
to
adjourn
nope,
all
right
with
that
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
praying
for
us
for
the
next
meeting.
Thank
you.