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From YouTube: November 30, 2022 Public Health & Safety Committee
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B
A
Let
the
record
reflect
we
have
a
quorum
and
councilman
wansley
has
joined
us.
Also,
I
want
to
note,
for
the
public
record
that
a
council
member
Ellison
is
at
a
different
work
matter
that
he
had
today
that
is
associated
with
his
duties
here
as
a
city
council
member,
and
so
he
had
to
miss
today's
meeting
with
that.
Let
let's
get
to
the
agenda
before
us.
Our
first
item
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
passage
of
an
ordinance
relating
to
the
consolidation
of
oversight
functions
through
a
community
Commission
on
police
oversight.
D
All
right
all
set
good
morning
trivia
and
vice
European
members
of
the
commission.
D
E
D
All
right,
we
can
start
this
over.
My
name
is
Andrew
Hawkins
I'm,
with
the
Minneapolis
Department
of
Civil,
Rights
and
I'm.
Here
today,
to
present
the
proposed
Community
Commission
on
police
oversight
to
get
started
just
quickly
establishing
a
framework
for
the
proposal.
What
this
is
is
this
is
a
creation,
the
proposed
creation
of
a
unified
role
for
community
in
this
City
Civilian
oversight
process.
D
This
proposal
serves
as
a
single
piece
of
a
larger
process
of
oversight.
The
work
to
improve
oversight
functions
is
a
continuous
process,
that's
always
being
explored
by
the
city
and
City
staff.
Council
members,
elected
officials-
you
know
community
members,
so
I
think
it's
always
worth
acknowledging
that
the
intention
is
to
address
frequent
issues
and
concerns
that
we've
heard
in
the
previous
months
and
years
kind
of
around
this
process
and
see
you
know
what
we
can
do
to
you
know
Implement
some
changes
to
address.
D
You
know
the
things
that
have
been
brought
forward
to
us
and
then
it's
also
important
that
this
has
the
ability
to
operate
within
the
existing
landscape.
The
state
of
Minnesota
some
people
know
there
are
a
number
of
State
statutes
that
do
restrict
what
civilian
oversight
is
allowed
to
do.
As
far
as
making
a
recommendation
versus
imposing
anything
whether
recommendations
are
binding
and
I
mean.
Currently,
we
are
limited
to
recommend
to
non-binding
recommendations
among
the
allegations
of
cases,
so
I
think
it's
always
important
to
note.
You
know
where
we
bump
up
against
issues
that
well
valid.
D
You
know
exist
at
another
level.
You
know
of
government
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
foreign
for
the
reform
process,
again
just
the
identification
of
these
issues
and
Gathering
input.
Over
the
past
few
years,
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
get
input
from
a
number
of
like
various
points,
including
community
members.
D
Actual
members
of
these
bodies,
former
members
of
these
parties,
City
staff,
had
played
a
critical
role
on
that.
There's
also
been
you
know,
I
think
an
extremely
high
volume
of
you
know,
media
coverage
and
media
responses
that
were
coming
out
of
our
office
would
provide
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
see.
D
You
know
the
list
of
things
that
were
identified,
as
you
know,
as
issues
from
individuals
they
had
spoken
with
and
so
I
think
at
each
of
these
points
you
know
whether
it's
out
in
community
at
you
know,
Community
connections,
conference
or
whether
it's
responding
to
you
know
a
reporter
from
a
certain
you
know,
agency
or
a
data
request,
I
think
you
know
it's
always
important
that
you
know
we're
paying
attention
to
the
things
that
are
being
identified
in
order
to
you
know,
can
kind
of
have
a
running
log
of
you
know
like
what
are
we
seeing
on
a
frequent
basis?
D
What
are
some
items
that
you
know
that
we
might
actually,
you
know,
be
able
to
do
something
about
and
then
kind
of
once
we
get
to
that
point.
What
is
the
framework
for
this
look
like
as
far
as
being
able
to
address
this
in
a
manner
that's
going
to
be
meaningful
and
provide
something
of
benefit
to
the
community?
D
The
issues
that
were
identified
through
this
just
some
highlights
again.
One
of
the
big
ones
was
roles,
and
just
who
does
what
there's
a
number
of
pieces
involved
in
this
process
and
I
think
it
was
always
kind
of
a
continued
source
of
confusion
up
to
and
including
you
know,
even
now,
as
far
as
you
know,
we
have
a
deliberative
process.
D
We
have
a
public-facing
body,
we
have
a
civilian
staff
group,
we
have
video
MPD
playing
a
role
and
just
sort
of
figuring
out
where
the
lines
were
between
those
different
groups
and
kind
of
determining
how
we
can
create
something.
That's
going
to
do
what
we
can
to
clarify.
Essentially,
you
know
who's
responsible
for
what
on
the
access
to
data.
This
is
something
that
again,
I
think
is
always
going
to
be.
You
know
a
point
of
concern.
D
If
people
have
you
know
have
that
interest,
for
you
know
being
able
to
you
know
to
comb
through
the
data
to
identify.
You
know,
issues,
topics
of
consideration,
things
that
they'd
like
to
see
addressed
and
that's
something
where
a
lot
of
that
is
driven
by
purpose.
D
Our
office
of
police
contact
review
staff
do
have
direct
data
access,
which
is
still
fairly
rare
nationally
for
a
civilian
professional
oversight
body
but
being
able
to
kind
of
you
know,
I
think,
look
for
a
way
where
we
can
leverage
that
knowledge
that's
gained
from
people
serving
on
review
panels
to
be
able
to
Parlay
that
kind
of
into
that
public
facing
role
and
use
that
firsthand
experience
to
sort
of
drive.
D
You
know
some
of
the
topics
that
they're
going
to
want
to
see,
discussed
and
issues
that
they're
going
to
want
to
see
addressed
or
female
by
presentations
by
staff.
You
know
staff
input
or
potential
research
and
study
projects,
the
overall
transparency
of
the
process,
anything
with
oversight.
This
is
always
going
to
be
a
big
underlying
theme.
I
think
that's
unavoidable.
D
The
fact
that
the
review
panels
currently
operate,
you
know
as
an
internal
facing
administrative
process.
You
know,
has
sort
of
been
I,
think
a
point
of
confusion
and
frustration
and
so
kind
of
doing
what
we
can.
Knowing
that
that
process
itself
can't
be
flipped,
you
know
to
be
public
facing.
But
what
can
we
do
to
make
sure
that
the
people
that
are
serving
on
those
panels-
and
you
know
kind
of
gaining
that
information
from
that
experience?
D
You
know
like
to
kind
of
have
that
public
facing
component,
where
they
can
actually
speak
to
their
experience.
You
know,
and
what
what
they're
seeing
the
trends
that
they're
identifying
the
patterns
and
things
of
that
nature?
D
Meaningful
involvement
in
the
process
is
obviously
a
big
one
as
well
anytime.
We
see
people
that
are
going
to
volunteer
their
time
to
become
engaged
in
this
process.
They
absolutely
have
a
passion
for
it.
They
want.
You
know
to
be
a
part
of
this.
They
want
to
have
a
measurable
impact.
I
think
it's
important
that
you
know
we
identify
ways
that
we
can
have.
You
know,
create
something
that's
going
to
provide
a
meaningful
opportunity
for
them
to
play
a
part
in
this
role
and
then
I
think
the
effectiveness
of
oversight.
D
That's
always
going
to
be
one
of
the
you
know
the
things
that
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
where
it's
all
going
to
come
back
to,
is
you
know
what
have
we
done?
What
recommendations
have
we
made?
You
know?
What
are
we
seeing
you
know
and
just
kind
of?
Is
it
having
an
impact
and
so
I
think
providing
a
forum
with
individuals
that
are
part
of
that
deliver?
That
deliberative
process
is
critical
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
that.
You
know
that
discussion
publicly
and
engage
with
residents
around
that
topic.
D
Real,
quick
I
know
there's
a
lot
on
this
one,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
for
the
existing
structure
on
the
existing
roles
of
Civilian
oversight
bodies.
That
kind
of
let
you
know
how
we
got
to
where
we're
at
there
are
currently
three
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis.
We
have
the
civil
rights
office,
a
police
conduct
review,
that's
our
professional
staff
body.
That's
here,
every
day,
doing
investigations
conducting
research
and
studies
conducting
the
preliminary
investigations.
D
They
also
they
do
the
routing
of
cases
with
Minneapolis,
Internal
Affairs,
and
then
those
cases
are
invested
investigated
by
their
party.
We
have
our
police
conduct
review
panel,
which
is
a
pool
of
Civilian
panelists.
This
group
is
then
assigned
kind
of
based
on
availability
fur
panels.
Two
civilians,
two
swarm
members,
those
panelists
receive
the
entirety
of
a
case.
You
know
case
File,
everything,
the
body
camera,
the
investigative
notes,
things
of
that
nature,
but
again
it's
a
wealth
of
information
that
they
receive
to
review
in
advance.
D
They
then
meet
as
a
group
and
issue
decisions
of
marriage
or
no
merit
that
are
forwarded
on
the
mpd's
process.
The
police
conduct
oversight.
Commission
is
the
public-facing
body
they're
tasked
with
review
And,
discussing
public,
closed
cases,
identifying
topics
for
potential
research
and
study
for
speakers.
D
You
know
where
we
can
make
recommendations
around
internal
controls
and
then
again
kind
of
just
engaging
with
members
of
our
public.
You
know
the
community
engagement
side
engaging
with
our
elected
officials
around
you
know,
recommendations
around
policy
pertaining
to
this
field.
Just
to
you
know,
keep
finding
ways
that
we
can
do
things
better
so
going
from
that
we're
going
to
the
goals
of
any
reform
process.
So
again
the
goals
of
this
reform,
creating
a
clear,
Mission
and
Authority
for
Community
role,
I'm
trying
to
eliminate
that
confusion
that
we
have
caused
by
multiple
groups.
D
You
know
in
kind
of
these
groups
that
operate
in
both
you
know
public
and
non-public
roles
and
making
sure
that,
if
you
know
seeing
if
we
can
create
one
group
that
while
they
do
have
a
non-public
role,
they
also
do
have
that
public
facing
component
and
people
have
an
opportunity
to
engage
directly
with
the
people
who
are
making
recommendations
on
you
know,
misconduct,
allegations
or
misconduct
investigations.
D
We
also
want
to
maximize
the
transparency
of
the
process
in
a
similar
sense.
You
know
these
individuals
that
were
only
internal
facing
by
kind
of
bringing
that
that
that
group
out
and
having
it
consist
of
this
public-facing
body.
It
eliminates
that
confusion
about
you
know
who
are
these
individuals
that
are
making
decisions
and
like
why?
Don't
we
ever
have
an
opportunity
to
engage
with
them
and
then
increasing
direct
access
for
members
of
the
community
that
are
playing
a
part
in
this
process?
D
Again,
access
is
driven
by
you
know
the
purpose
of
the
group,
and
so
by
serving
on
those
review
panels
that
establishes
a
clear
line
where
you
know,
individuals
on
the
panels
will
receive
the
entirety
of
the
case
investigation
for
you
know
that
they've
been
assigned.
They
can
look
at
all
of
that
again.
Well,
you
might
not
be
able
to
discuss
everything
at
you
know
a
finite
level
in
a
public
setting.
It
still
does
allow
for
the
observation
of
you
know,
patterns
and
practices,
and
Trends
issues
can
be
raised
for
discussion.
D
You'll
buy
the
full
body
so
getting
into
what
is
it
the
community
Commission
on
police
oversight?
As
we
touched
on
it's
that
creation
of
that
single
Community
Driven
entity,
the
name
was
chosen
deliberately.
Community
is
the
first
word
for
a
reason.
This
is
the
body,
and
this
is
a
responsibility
that
is
going
to
be
owned
by
this
community
commission.
It's
playing
that
sole
role
as
a
civilian
entity
in
the
deliberative
process.
D
The
work
of
the
commission
will
take
place
during
public
meetings,
which
is
also
I,
think
an
improvement
on
what
we
currently
have.
You
know
we
do
have
the
bifurcation,
where
we
have
a
commission
and
we
also
have
the
internal
panels.
Well,
the
panels
continue
the
fact
that
we
will
have
panelists
in
that
public-facing
Community
role,
I
think,
does
add
value
to
that
piece
of
the
process
on
the
commission
structure.
So
the
membership
consists
of
15
members.
D
We
currently
have
the
split
kind
of
system
that
we
operate
under
now
with
the
it
will
generally
operate
with
eight
civilian
pool,
a
pool
of
eight
civilian
panelists,
and
we
will
have
eight
commission
members
so
by
keeping
this
at
15,
it
can
ensure
that
there's
a
minimal
reduction
in
the
opportunities
for
people
to
participate
in
this
process.
It
also
ensures
that
this
body
can
be
larger
and
more
representative,
the
composition
of
that.
D
It's
again
13
Commissioners
appointed
by
the
city
council,
two
Commissioners
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
then
kind
of
with
the
initial
iterations
of
this
commission.
Those
would
be
staggered
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
that
mix
of
appointment
terms
and
then
everybody
will
subsequently
be
three
years.
D
A
quick
look
at
the
proposed
structure
of
the
civilian
roles,
and
this
is
important
again
just
to
kind
of
illustrate
where
a
transition
takes
place.
The
complaint
didn't
take
an
investigation
role
right
now,
that
is
our
civil
rights,
opcr
staff,
the
investigative
body
they're
responsible,
for
you
know
the
intake
investigations
identifying
Trends,
and
you
know
things
through
that
actual
process.
D
They
also
are
responsible
for
conducting
case
investigations.
When
those
are
complete,
they
actually
facilitate
the
review
panel
process,
so
they
will
get
those
scheduled
and
ensure
that
an
entire
investigative
file
goes
forward
for
review
by
the
panel.
D
The
great
the
great
part
you'll,
see
in
the
middle
again
like
color,
was
chosen
deliberately
just
to
illustrate
that
a
transition
takes
place
with
regard
to
the
civilian
Rule
and
that's
where
we're
shifting
we're
shifting
from
civilian
staff
to
civilian
Community
role
and
the
change
in
that
role
means
that
that
Community
role
is
a
deliberative
review
and
recommendation
process.
D
So
they're
responsible
for
review
of
cases,
you
know
and
issuing
recommendations
on
the
merits.
They're
also
responsible,
for
you
know,
holding
these
public
meetings.
You
know
they
get
notified
of
case
outcomes.
They
can
identify
these
patterns
and
practices
issues.
You
know
for
discussion
with
members
of
the
public
at
their
publicly
held
meetings,
the
impact
it
changes
again
like
this
is
I,
like
the
hope
that
we
wish
to
see.
D
You
know
like
from
this
proposal
so
again,
Commissioners
just
being
able
to
serve
on
the
review
panel
and
having
that
direct
access
provides
something
that
we
don't
currently
have
currently
panelists
do
receive.
You
know
those
Case
Files.
They
have
the
ability
to
review
everything.
However,
when
the
investigation
is
done,
they're
just
there
isn't
that
public
facing
component,
where
the
information
and
kind
of
all
this
knowledge
that's
gained
through
you
know
their.
You
know
the
time
they
spend
on
these
panels
hasn't.
D
Had
you
know
an
effective
outlet
and
so
I
think
the
goal
is
that
by
combining
these
roles
and
providing
these
public-facing
meetings,
they
have
a
you
know
a
built-in
opportunity
to
be
able
to
share
what
they've
learned
and
what
they've
observed
firsthand.
Without
you
know
the
complete
Reliance
on
staff
or
on
publicly
available
case
summaries.
D
So
all
of
this
is
coming
from
their
first
hand,
role
on
this
group
and
from
you
know,
like
things
that
they're
observing
you
know
themselves
without
having
to
you
know,
like
hope
that
somebody,
you
know
they
share
something
with
them
on
the
topic.
Commissioners
can
also
again
like
exposure
to
real-time
cases.
Like
that's,
that's
important.
We
have
the
public
facing
case
summaries
right
now.
I
think
that
process
will
continue.
However,
you
know,
there's
always
a
delay
to
that.
Some
cases
need
to
be
closed.
The
fact
that
they'll
be
seeing
things
in
real
time.
D
It
definitely
has
a
benefit.
Since
you
know
like
these,
are
you
know
it's
up
to
date?
You
know
of
events
that
they
can
see
so
obviously,
topics
patterns
practices,
it's
all
going
to
be,
as
you
know,
as
close
to
real
time
as
we
can
get
and
I
think
just
that
end
to
end
role
in
the
deliberative
process
and
just
having
a
group
instead
of
having
this
kind
of
in-between
group
of
the
review
panelists,
who
are
the
ones
that
are
making
the
recommendations?
D
You
know
this
is
now
coming
from
the
same
body
where
we
have
commission
members
serving
on
the
panels
and
issuing
recommendations,
but
then
we're
also
closing
the
loop
on
the
back
end
with
them
being
able
to
discuss
their
experiences.
You
know
and
kind
of
what
they've
taken
from
that.
So
there's
no
longer
this
kind
of
Gap,
where
there's
a
piece
of
the
process
that
wasn't
happening.
D
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
Mr
Hawkins
right
now,
I'm
going
to
ask
if
any
committee
members
have
questions
for
staff
Vice,
chair,
Payne,.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah,
I'm
encouraged
by
the
Commissioners
getting
full
access,
at
least
from
a
repeat
view,
panel
perspective,
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
makeup
of
the
review
panel.
It's
two
sworn
officers,
two
Commissioners.
If
there
is
disagreement
between
the
sworn
officers
and
the
civilians
it
essentially,
it
provides
a
veto
for
any
of
those
investigations.
So
from
a
balanced
perspective,
shouldn't
we
be
prioritizing
or
preferencing
the
civilian
role
on
that
panel.
D
So
I
think
that's
something
that
the
council
can
certainly
look.
Vice
European,
like
you,
know,
take
under
consideration
and
decide.
You
know
how
I'd
like
to
proceed.
You
know
with
this.
It
was
you
know
we
kind
of
based
it
on
our
current
operation,
where
it
is
that
two
and
two,
and
also
for
what
it's
worth.
It's
like
in
the
event
that
there
is
a
split.
D
You
know
where
we
have,
whether
it's
two
officers
and
two
civilians,
or
if
it's
a
civilian
and
an
officer
and
a
civilian
officer,
all
of
the
cases
that
go
to
panel
will
move
forward,
regardless
of
whether
it's
a
merit,
no
merit
or
a
split
decision.
So
there
is
no
mechanism
that
you
know
where
that
would
split,
and
then
just
essentially
the
case,
you
know
like
no
longer
proceeds
to
go
forward
so
but
I,
but
I
think
they
again.
D
The
consistency
of
what
this
makeup
looks
like
is
definitely
something
that
the
council
can
and.
C
Then
a
follow-up
question
to
that
that
determination
of
Merit
versus
no
merit
at
what
degree
are
we
making
those
decisions
publicly
accessible?
Are
we
only
making
cases
that
result
in
discipline
publicly
accessible
or
is
the
determination
of
Merit
to
the
complaint,
also
going
to
be
publicly
accessible.
D
So
under
state
of
Minnesota
law
we're
limited
with
what
we
can
share
about
a
case
unless
there
has
been
a
disciplinary
decision
made.
However,
we
currently
have
this
on
our
public
facing
portal.
That's
maintained
by
the
Civil
Rights
department
and
I
would
think
that,
in
the
event
that
you
know
this
is
moved
forward
in
this,
this
commission
is
created.
I
would
advise
that
you
know
they
are
tasked
with
maintaining
a
portal.
That's
reflective
solely
of
their
work,
the
piece
that
exists
on
our
portal
right
now.
D
We
can
go
through
and
see
how
many
panels
were
held.
You
know
how
many
allegations
were
made
and
then
you
can
actually
see
the
outcome
of
those
panels
like
there's
a
degree
when
we
get
into
aggregate
statistics
statistics
where
we
are
allowed
under
data
practices
to
share
that
so
for
any
given
quarter.
You
can
see
what
the
trend
was.
As
far
as
you
know,
like
the
votes
on
Merit,
the
votes
on
no
merit
split
offer
any
given
time
period
and.
C
Can
I
do
another
good?
There
has
been
a
lot
of
attention
paid
a
lot
of
focus,
paying
attention
to
the
issue
of
utilizing
coaching
as
a
way
of
coming
to
a
finding
but
categorizing
the
response
to
that
finding
as
coaching
which
is
not
classified
as
discipline.
So
therefore,
from
a
data
practices
perspective
that
information
doesn't
need
to
be
public.
Do
any
of
these
reforms
address
that
concern.
D
With
this
specific
reform,
I
know
that's
a
process
that
would
happen
on
the
investigative
side
and
something
that
I
think
you
know
their
other
people
can
speak
to.
However,
I
know
there
are
cases
that
go
forward
to
the
review
panels,
where
you
know,
depending
on
the
allegations
that
might
be
an
outcome
that
would
happen
from
them.
D
So
I
think
that
again,
albeit
not
necessarily
directly
related
to
I,
think
what
you're
asking
I
think
this
does
provide
an
opportunity
for
I
think
some
more
insight
on
that,
where
there
might
be
some
allegations
that
come
through
where
they
have
the
opportunity
to
see
firsthand
what
occurred.
You
know
what
the
allegation
was.
What
was
said
about
this,
you
know
that
can
I
think
like
does
help
to
kind
of
educate
some
of
the
discussion
that
happens
beyond
that
point,
but.
D
I
think
again
like
not
knowing,
like
that's
a
side
that
I
think
there's
you
know
continued
discussions
and
reform
efforts
that
are
that
are
underway,
but
that's
more
I
think
than
that
conversation
I'm,
not
in
a
position
of
really
nowhere
with
the
future
of
that
holds.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Yep.
A
Any
further
discussion,
I
just
have
a
couple
questions.
My
first
question
is:
what
do
you
think
about
the
community?
Can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
the
community
input
process
in
this
transformation?
Yep.
D
So
again,
it's
I
think,
just
speaking
from
you
know,
from
my
role,
like
I've
managed
a
lot
of
our
Communications
over
the
past.
You
know
several
years.
This
is
obviously
you
know
oversight,
especially
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis,
following
the
murder
of
George
Floyd.
D
You
know
there
was
no
shortage
of
you
know
of
media
coverage
of
input.
You
know
of
you
know,
like
events
that
were
held
around
this
topic
to
you
know,
facilitate
Community
input
and
continued
discussion.
I
think
that
definitely
provided
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
get
a
very
you
know
like
wide
range
of
opinions
and
input
on
this.
D
You
know
whether
you're
having
somebody
contact
you
and
kind
of
run
through
a
list
of
input,
they've
gotten
from
a
you
know
like
multiple
you
know,
areas
of
the
community
I
know
just
again
the
community
connections
people
very
engaged
around
this
topic.
We've
also
had
you
know
just
I,
think
just
the
opportunity
to
you
know
to
hear
from
people
through
you
know
throughout
the
meetings
themselves,
you
know
of
the
existing
bodies.
You
know
when
they
have
public
comment:
City
Council,
when
we'd
have
input
there.
G
D
But
no
so
I
think
that
this
has
definitely
been
a
situation
where
you
know
there
have
been
like
a
number,
a
number
of
areas
where
input
you
know
was
available.
The
mayor's
Community
safety
group
I
was
the
staff
liaison
for
that.
So
that
provided
an
opportunity
to
sit,
and
you
know
to
engage
with
individuals
around
this
topic.
D
We
spoke
into
former
members
about
this.
We've
also
had
a
number
of
community
engagement.
We've
had
I
believe
three
now
like
public
Forums
on
this
together
input
from
the
community
and
then
we've
also
again,
we've
had
that
just
like
I
think
just
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
our
staff
that
are
also
out
in
the
field.
As
far
as
what
they're
hearing.
A
D
I
think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction
again
like
I,
don't
I
think
that's
something
where
ultimately
again,
as
we
talked
about
with
the
state's
statute,
it's
like
ultimately
going
to
fall
to
the
chief
to
issue
disciplinary
decisions.
I
do
think
that
bringing
the
individuals
at
least
the
civilian
individuals
that
are
responsible
for
the
role
in
the
deliberative
process
in
that
review
of
cases
and
the
people
that
are
sitting
on
the
panels
that
are
seeing
things
firsthand.
D
You
know
providing
that
public
Avenue
you
know
for
them
to
meet
and
to
share
their
experiences.
You
know
with
community
members
is,
you
know,
I
think
it's
absolutely
a
step
that
is,
is
taking
us
in
the
right
direction
and
something
that's
been
missing.
That's
been
something
where
we
currently
have
those
discussions
around.
You
know
what
does
a
review
process?
Look
like
you
know
we
want
to
talk
about.
You
know
like
what
are
the
recommendations
going
forward.
D
You
know
if
we
have
that
under
the
existing
structure,
we
have
that
at
public
meetings,
but
we
don't
have.
You
know
like
the
individuals
that
are
playing,
that
critical
role
as
part
of
that,
so
it
essentially
just
creates
a
vacuum.
So
I
think
what
this
does
is
you
know
it's
a
step
towards
filling
that
and
having
individuals
that
can
speak
directly
from
their.
You
know,
experiences
subject
matter
experts
and
you
know
like
provide
that
information
through
residents.
A
H
A
Just
one
second
Vice,
chair
Payne,
has
another
question.
C
Yeah
apologies
was
curious
if
you
could
expand
on
the
details
around
the
firewall
of
information
and
what
are
the
boundaries
of
that
firewall
who?
What
information
is
behind
the
firewall
what's
accessible
to
Commissioners
versus
the
public
kind
of
those
different
tiers
of
information
access,
I.
D
C
I
Certainly
chair
of
Utah
Vice,
chair
Payne,
council
members,
my
name
is
Yvonne
ludmer
I'm
in
the
city
attorney's
office,
I'm,
an
assistant,
City
attorney
and
I,
had
a
short
presentation
to
follow
on
to
Mr
Hawkins,
just
to
address
to
give
an
overview
of
the
changes
to
the
ordinance
itself,
because
there
were
some
updates
that
were
being
made
because
of
an
update
process.
When.
J
I
Ordinances
are
being
passed
that
weren't
directly
related
to
the
Civil
Rights
proposal.
I
can
speak
to
your
question
right
now.
Vice
chair,
Payne,
the
firewall,
is
a
continuation
of
what
was
previously
in
the
ordinance.
The
goal
is
to
limit
the
information
that
is
gathered
in
the
investigative
process
only
to
those
Personnel
who
need
access
to
it
to
perform
their
jobs,
and
so
the
goal
of
the
language
of
the
firewall
as
it
exists,
is
to
make
sure
that
investigators
get
access
from
the
solar
ice
Department
from
the
police
department.
I
People
who
support
investigations
from
the
city,
attorney's
office,
people
who
make
Brady
or
Giglio
decisions
in
the
city,
attorney's
office,
people
who
might
need
to
produce
the
the
document
produced
documents
related
to
it
in
litigation,
the
state
attorney's
office
as
well.
Those
people
have
access
to
it
as
needed,
and
then
the
commission
members
would
have
access
to
it
as
they
serve
on
the
panel
to
on
these
panels
in
order
to
make
their
determinations.
I
Right
so
stepping
back,
you
know,
Mr
Hawkins
went
over
what
this
proposal
is
and
the
idea
behind
the
proposal,
as
these
ordinances
are
getting
reviewed.
The
city
attorney's
office
is
reviewing
the
chapters
to
ensure
conformance
with
the
government
structure,
Charter
amendments
that
were
passed
recently,
which
you
know,
broadly
speaking,
delegate
executive,
Authority
and
administrative
Authority
staff
supervision
to
the
mayor
and
to
and
a
delegate
legislative
functions
to
the
council.
I
So
chapter
172
governs
police
oversight
and
currently
includes
pretty
specific
directions
of
Investigation
procedures
for
the
joint
work
of
the
office
of
police
conduct,
review
and
Internal
Affairs,
and
it
also
includes
several
unit
and
staff
level
directives
that
relate
to
decision-making,
Authority
Etc,
the
updates
that
are
in
the
early
part
that
I'll
go
over
shortly.
Those
are
generally
directed
at
making
sure
that
the
ordinance
directs
Department
level
activities
as
opposed
to
specific
office
or
unit
level
activities
that
are
now
that
are
that
are
within
the
administrative
authority
of
these
departments.
I
So,
starting
with
the
first
two
sections,
172.10
172.20-
and
these
are-
it-
makes
those
changes
that
are
referred
to
making
the
directives
to
the
department
level
to
the
Civil
Rights
Department,
to
the
police
department.
Rather
than
to
office.
A
police
conduct
review
into
office
of
internal
affairs,
but
substantively
it
continues
to
mandate
the
same
to
cover
the
same
ground.
It
continues
to
require
meaningful
police
oversight
and
civilian
participation
review
process.
I
The
former
section
172.90
that
where
that
is
the
section
that
required
access
to
Police
Department
information
for
the
investigative
staff
and
for
civil
rights,
Department
staff
conducting
the
programs
of
research
and
study
that
Mr
Hawkins
alluded
to,
and
this
was
just
a
move
and
and
that
that
is
now
included
in
the
news
section.
172.20.
I
Section
172.30
has
some
other
changes
related
to
the
government
structure.
It
no
longer
prescribes
a
specific
procedure
to
be
followed
by
opcr
and
Internal
Affairs.
Instead,
it
commits
it
requires
the
development
of
policies
and
procedures
by
those
departments,
but
by
by
the
administration
that
would
cover
those
that
would
cover
those
areas.
It
does
not
mandate
any
change
to
the
current
operating
procedures.
Those
could
be
brought
wholesale
over
and
adopted
as
the
new
policy
and
procedures,
but
it
commits
to
those
to
to
the
city
Administration
the
development
of
those
policies
and
procedures.
I
Then
we
have
section
172.5-
and
this
is
this-
this
up.
This
is
an
update
of
former
172.70
relating
to
timing
for
disciplinary
decisions.
It
updates
language
to
refer
to
Police
Department
rather
than
individual
staff.
Former
170.50
is
now
deleted
that
that
section
required
notification
of
complainants
of
the
outcome
of
a
review
panel
decisions
and
the
loud
request
for
consideration,
but
that
is
not
compatible
with
the
data.
Practice
Act
requirements
of
only
disclosing
the
existence
and
status
of
complaints,
and
so
it
was
not.
I
172.40
describes
the
procedures
and
the
how
the
panels
would
operate
very
similar
to
previous
172.50
is
the
public
facing
aspect
of
the
former
pcoc
it
includes
eligibility
requirements
must
be
an
adult,
must
pass,
what's
called
a
criminal
justice
information
system
background
check.
I
This
is
the
minimal
level
of
background
check
that
we
can
have
in
order
to
provide
access
to
criminal
justice
information
to
the
panelists,
so
they
can
make
decisions
based
on
full
investigative
files
if
the
the
city
is
required
to
implement
procedures
for
certification
of
individuals
who
receive
criminal
justice,
information,
information
from
Criminal,
Justice
information-
and
so
this
is
the
the
this
level
is
required
is-
is
something
that
panelists
would
need
to
pass
in
order
to
serve
on
panels
and
receive
information.
I
Then
it
also
includes
a
minimum
of
four
regularly
scheduled
meetings
per
year.
This
is
just
a
minimum.
The
commission
could
set
more
meetings.
It
could
set
monthly
meetings.
It
could
set
bi-monthly
meetings
how
at
whatever
rate
it
wanted
for
a
regular
schedule,
and
they
can.
They
can
also
add
special
meetings.
The
reduction
to
four
required
meetings
a
year
relates
to
increased
workload
expected
because
the
same
Commissioners
serve
on
the
commission,
as
well
as
the
police
conduct
review
panels.
A
Happy
thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation,
I'm,
going
to
ask
attendees
to
please
limit
conversations,
we're
trying
to
listen
to
our
presenters.
We
want
everyone
to
have
opportunity
to
listen.
So.
Thank
you
all
so
much.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Are
there
any
questions?
Vice,
champagne.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah,
in
light
of
the
new
government
structure,
I'm
curious
as
to
what
the
thought
process
was
or
if
there
was
any
discussion
around
the
role
of
audit
in
this
process,
and
should
there
be
a
role
for
audit
in
this
process.
I
For
the
audit
Department
yeah
I
am
not
aware
of
discussion
on
that
of
that,
but
you
know
that
is
something
that
I'm
sure
that
could
be
could
be
discussed
and
considered.
C
Okay
and
then
another
consideration
with
government
structure
I
see
that
we
have
two
mayoral
appointments
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
rash.
The
rationale
for
that,
given
the
kind
of
heightened
Authority
that
the
mayor's
office
now
has
so.
I
The
current
ordinance
as
stands
includes
two
mayoral
appointments
and
the
mayor
and
mayoral
appointment
of
the
chair
with
the
committee
selecting
the
vice
chair.
Most
of
these
boards
and
commissions
reflect
a
close
to
even
split
between
Council
appointments
and
mayoral
appointments
with
bodies
selecting
their
own
chairs,
so
that
was
that
was
a
proposal
that
was
developed
as
this
body
was
created.
But
that
is
something
that
is
certainly
within
the
council's
purview.
To
consider
and
address.
A
Any
further
discussion,
thank
you
so
much
Mr,
ludmer
and
I'm.
Sorry
that
I
kind
of
skipped
over
you
a
little
bit
at
the
beginning.
There
you
are
listed
as
a
presenter.
So
I'm
really
sorry
about
that.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
apologize!
Thank
you
charity.
Thank
you.
With
that
I'm
going
to
proceed
to
the
public
hearing.
A
I
will
grow.
I
will
go
through
the
list
of
speakers
in
the
order
that
they
registered.
If
you
did
not
sign
up
yet
and
wish
to
speak,
please
see
the
clerk
over
this
side
and
do
so
I'll.
Ask
that
you
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
keep
your
comments
to
two
minutes.
The
timer
is
right
there
by
the
clerk
and
it'll
show
you
how
much
time
you
have
remaining
the
first
person
up
is
David.
Bicking
welcome
hello.
J
Yes,
my
name
is
Dave
picking,
Ward
8.
for
the
past
year.
It
has
been
the
obvious
intent
of
the
city,
the
mayor,
the
City
attorney
and
the
majority
of
the
city
council
to
shut
down
the
existing
pcoc
when
challenged
in
court
to
follow
the
city
ordinance
requiring
the
appointment
of
the
pcoc
members.
The
city
decided
to
quickly
repeal
that
ordinance
instead
and
kill
the
pcoc
for
good
in
its
place
would
be
the
new
ccpo
which
you
are
considering
today.
Based
on
past
experience.
J
That
is,
unless
the
city
can
keep
the
new
body
weak,
dependent
on
the
mayor,
this
Council
and
staff
and
disconnected
from
the
public.
The
text
of
the
ordinance
you
are
considered
considering
makes
it
abundantly
clear
that
the
intent
of
the
authors
is
to
do
just
that.
The
letter
from
cuapb
and
the
detailed
email
from
Chuck
turchik
lists
the
many
many
ways
in
which
the
ordinance
is
drafted
without
bad
intent.
I
can't
possibly
go
into
all
of
those
and
even
more
in
a
two-minute
comment.
J
The
haste
and
the
lack
of
public
input
are
shown
in
the
grossly
incompetent
wording
of
this
ordinance.
The
City
attorney
should
be
embarrassed.
The
city's
urgency
is
also
clear
in
the
last
section
which
repeals
the
currents
172.80
regarding
the
pcoc
during
the
interim
between
passage
of
this
ordinance
and
its
effective
date.
There
is
nothing
worth
keeping
in
this
ordinance
it
as
well
as
its
intent
must
be
scrapped.
We
point
out
the
flaws,
not
with
the
goal
of
having
them
addressed
one
by
one.
J
K
My
name
is
Michelle
gross
and
I'm.
The
president
of
communities,
United
against
police
brutality
and
I
live
in
Ward
7..
The
proposal
for
the
ccpo
is
first
of
all
the
process,
for
it
was
fatally
flawed,
because
no
Community
input
was
sought.
Secondly,
it
does
not
address
the
many
many
problems
with
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
and
only
merely
looks
at
the
piece
that
was
formerly
public
facing.
Of
course,
we
know
it
hasn't
been
publicly
facing
since
April,
because
you
folks
have
refused
to
appoint
people
to
the
pcoc.
K
Moreover,
a
flawed
process
results
in
a
flawed
program
and
ordinance.
This
ordinance
has
many
many
fatal
flaws
to
it.
It
is
not
ready
for
prime
time
it
includes
things
like
that.
A
majority
vote
of
the
Quorum
would
be
what
passes
things,
and
that
means
only
five
people
would
have
to
vote
in
favor
of
something
to
pass
something.
You
know,
there's
so
many
errors
in
here
as
to
be
both.
K
K
It
also
lessens
the
impact
of
the
community
on
the
opcr
process,
which
is
already
weak
enough
as
it
is,
as
Dave
pointed
out,
the
the
gutting
of
172.80
would
end
the
pcoc
some
four
months
before
the
new
process
starts
and
then
that
new
process
would
only
allow
people
to
meet
with
them
one
four
times
a
year
yeah
they
could
have
special
meetings
on
three
days
notice.
That
means
the
community
would
have
to
look
at
the
City
calendar
every
single
day
to
see
if
they
could
figure
out.
K
K
L
I'm
Rick
Jacobs,
I'm
Ward,
one
and
I
am
here
to
ask:
how
are
you
going
to
get
rid
of
the
racist
cops
in
the
department?
There's
no
question
about
that.
Yet:
okay,.
L
L
M
Welcome
hi,
thanks
for
having
this
public
hearing
I
wish,
there
was
more
details
put
out
like
the
City
attorney
put
out
to
the
public
about.
What's
going
on.
A
M
You
state
your
name
sure
my
name
is
Lyndon
gallboy
I'm,
with
the
Twin
Cities
Coalition
for
justice
for
Jamar
and
I,
live
on
the
West
Bank
and
there's
a
lot
in
this
proposal
that
I
that
I
don't
like,
and
we
don't
like
I'm
going
to
focus
on
one
thing,
just
one
thing,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
telling
thing,
and
that
is
that
thing
is
that
we
should
be
focused
on
accountability
and
taking
the
issue
of
accountability
seriously.
M
This
proposal,
similar
to
what's
in
place
now
throws
the
civilians
that
are
appointed
as
the
public
face
50
bucks
per
meeting.
Oh,
maybe
some
parking
and
bus
fare
I'm
sure
they
have
to
put
a
voucher
in
for
that
and
to
me,
that's
just
not
taking
the
role
of
this
commission
seriously
in
general
or
this
issue
seriously
in
the
meanwhile.
We
know
that
the
example
these
appointees,
like
you,
have
a
lot
of
things
on
their
plates.
M
That
is
why
we're
fighting
for
a
new
entity
called
a
civilian
police
accountability.
Commission
I'm,
a
CPAC.
It
would
be
made
up
if
it
passes
of
people
who
have
to
run
for
election
who
have
to
State
their
plans
State
their
stance
be
and
be
in
constant
communication
with
the
community.
Basically,
their
job
description
would
include
accountability.
M
So
I
can't
say
that
I
even
appreciate
this,
this
gesture,
because
that's
basically
what
it
is
just
a
gesture,
and
we
just
think
that
sticking
the
word
community
in
the
name
of
this
proposal
does
not
mean
that
it
is
what
the
community
has
been
calling
for.
What
we
need
is
accountability.
Please
vote
this
down
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
N
Hello,
my
name
is
Paul
Bossman
I'm,
a
proud
South
cider,
since
the
early
90s
and
I'm,
also
an
attorney
working
for
communities,
United
against
police
brutality
that
rid
of
mandamus
to
make
sure
that
people
are
appointed
to
the
commission
I'm,
the
guy,
who
brought
that
the
problem
that
we
have
here
Michelle
talked
briefly
about
the
the
problem
with
Quorum
I.
Think
that's
illustrative
15
people
doesn't
say
how
many
aquarium
is,
but
assuming
it's
a
majority,
eight
people
are
in
a
quorum.
N
A
majority
of
a
quorum
is
five
and
it
says
that
we
can
pass
something
on
five
people's
vote
instead
of
15..
Normally
that's
written
differently,
that's
written
as
a
majority
of
the
people
present.
The
reason
that
that
kind
of
boner
is
in
this
ordinance
is
because
it's
half
baked
and
I
for
proof
that
it's
half
baked
it
has
the
entire
policies
and
procedure
section
to
be
written
later,
so
how
it's
actually
going
to
work
is
not
in
front
of
you
today.
N
That's
legislative!
That's
your
job!
If
you
let
let
this
go
through
the
way,
it
is
all
the
rules
for
how
this
is
legislated
are
made
by
the
mayor's
office
and
staff.
You've
you've
abandoned
that
this
also
lacks
any
real
change.
We
understand
what
has
been
said
about
the
restrictions
in
state
law
in
terms
of
information
on
what
can
be
given
out,
but
we
also
know
that
we're
in
the
city-
that's
more
famous
for
George
Floyd
than
we
are
for
anything
else
right
now,
and
we
can
make
some
changes.
N
We
can
certainly
say
that
we
can
release
that
composite
number,
how
many
complaints
were
considered
and
recommended
how
many
the
chief
granted
discipline
to
and
released
that
a
month
before
the
chief's
annual
review?
That's
a
hard
number,
that's
information
that
we
can
release
and
it
can
make
some
change
happen.
But
that's
not
in
here
because
this
was
released
yesterday
afternoon.
N
O
Hello,
council
members,
my
name
is
Emma
Peterson,
Ward,
12,
I,
think
I'm,
the
former
captain
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Explorers
program,
I'm,
an
alumni
of
the
Minneapolis
youth
congress,
I
served
on
the
police
chief
search
committee
and
I
am
earning
my
master's
degree
in
public
policy,
specifically
on
police
policy.
O
So
several
complaints
against
police
officers,
the
complaint
system
was
fundamentally
broken.
It
took
way
too
long
for
investigators
to
to
look
into
my
case
to
investigate
I
got
no
updates,
and
meanwhile,
while
they
were
investigating
the
police
officers,
I
complained
about
got
updates.
They
showed
up
outside
my
house.
O
They
followed
my
sister
and
I,
allegedly,
they
retaliated
against
my
sister
and
I.
They
threatened
my
career.
They
physically
threatened
my
sister,
and
so
this
new
ordinance
completely
leaves
out
any
protections
for
complainants.
It
also
eliminates
the
the
remedies
that
it
used
to
have
in
the
old
language
before
complaints
could
request
for
reconsideration
about
their
complaints.
That's
gone
now
before
they
could
be
provided
a
penalty
fee.
O
If
the
chief
made
an
untimely
decision,
that's
completely
taken
out,
there
are
no
protections
for
complainants
at
all
in
this
there's
no
com
and
one
of
the
city
attorneys
that
the
the
public
forum
on
Monday
said
to
me
that
oh,
the
police
department
policies
are
supposed
to
protect
complaints
against
harassment
and
retaliation.
Well,
where
were
they
for
me?
Where
were
they
when
I
was
retaliated
against
by
City
Council
Members
by
police,
commanders
and
sergeants?
And
others
those
policies
that
were
put
in
place
didn't
protect
me.
O
Q
Name
is
Maddie
Peterson
I'm
in
ward
12.
I'm
just
going
to
read
this
I
urge
you
to
delay
this
vote,
and
here
is
why
I
was
a
police
explorer
and
Community
Service
Officer,
with
MPD
from
2011
to
2017.,
and
in
that
time
I
experienced
sexual
harassment
and
I
witnessed
police
misconduct
such
as
officers
drinking.
While
we
were
at
Police,
Explorers
youth
program,
competitions,
I
experienced
a
lot
more
and
I
witnessed
a
lot
more
as
well,
but
I
only
have
two
minutes.
Q
My
sister
who
was
in
the
program
and
I,
made
the
brave
decision
to
file
a
formal
complaint
to
Internal
Affairs
that
took
years
to
investigate
and
then
when
we
did
or
and
then
we
went
to
the
Civil
Rights
department
and
the
opcr
and
that
took
just
as
long.
What
is
important
about
is.
Our
story
is
that
we
are
here.
We
are
the
just
like
Emma
said
we
are
the
only
ones
here
who
have
gone
through
this
process
and
who
know
the
realities.
Have
you
guys
filed
a
complaint
with
opcr
or
internal
affairs?
Q
Probably
not
bad
policy
makes
bad
process,
and
this
is
bad
policy,
because
I
did
speak
up
against
The
Thin
Blue
Line
that
opened
me
up
to
retaliation
in
the
police
department.
I
was
followed,
allegedly
threatened
to
be
punched
in
the
face
by
the
officer.
I
complained
against
and
was
told
I
better
watch
it
on
fto
long
story.
Short
I
was
run
out
of
not
just
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
but
also
Bloomington
as
well,
because
I'm
the
wrong
kind
of
blue
in
this
new
ordinance.
Q
R
R
I,
don't
understand
if
we've
tried
this
for
over
30
years
and
we
don't
want
the
police
investigating
the
police
to
find
themselves
innocent
and
unaccountable
we're
still
waiting
on
things
that
in
the
city
we've
paid
out
over
111
million
dollars
in
settlements,
27
million
to
the
Floyd
family,
20
million
to
Justine
demons,
family
1.7
million
to
Soarin
Stevenson,
who
had
his
eye
put
out
by
the
police,
Linda
tirado
700
000,
who
had
her
eye
put
out
by
the
police.
R
You
talk
about
Floyd,
we've
had
numerous
other
people
since
then,
six
months
prior
to
George,
Floyd's
murder,
I
sat
at
a
listening
session
with
A.G
Allison
and
commissioner
Harrison
and
I
said
at
that
time.
A
riot
is
the
language
of
the
unheard
six
months
later
you
saw
what
happened
it.
Ain't
changing.
A
S
S
S
Police
officers
in
America
have
much
more
rights
than
we
have
and
we
want
that
because
we
want
them
to
do
their
job.
Well,
unfortunately,
when
we
sit
in
a
closed
meeting
with
two
police
officers
with
myself
and
another
citizen,
we
are
not
able
to
be
on
equal
ground
because
again,
they're
police
officers,
so
I
I
think
a
reasonable
proposal
is
changing
it
to
one
police
officer
and
two
two,
two
citizens
or
three
citizens
and
two
police
officers.
S
We
all
want
to
do
the
right
thing
and
I
think
most
of
the
police
officers
do
as
well.
We
also
ask
that
the
city
clearly
identify
the
facts.
We
will
measure
if
this
proposal
goes
forward,
so
we
can
track
success
of
the
community
Commission
on
police
oversight.
We
can't
improve
what
we
don't
measure.
Here's
why
this
is
important
today
it
can
take
at
least
a
year
from
the
date
of
a
complaint
is
filed
until
it
completes
the
investigative
stages
before
our
complaint
is
even
brought
before
the
current
Commission.
T
Hey
everybody
Dan
engelhardt
Ward,
one
resident
constituent
of
council
member
Payne,
so
I
consider
myself
a
community
expert
on
the
issue
of
Just
Cause,
And,
collective
bargaining
and
what
is
possible
and
what
we've
seen
is
the
exact
opposite
of?
What's
possible,
no
accountability
and
lies
nothing
but
lies
saying
we
can't
do
anything
and
that
is
making
a
signal
that
you're
not
going
to
do
anything
to
hold
officers
accountable.
A
core
Union
value
is
quality
work.
T
We
are
not
getting
quality
work
up
to,
including
you
know,
horrible
atrocities
that
we've
heard
so
many
and
become.
You
know
disgrace
of
the
nation
and
this
land
in
terms
of
what
our
police
are
doing.
Management
can
manage
under
the
current
system,
but
they
refuse
to
and
they
lie
to
us
and
say
they
cannot.
Arbitrator.
T
Beffert
has
written
a
piece
in
that
U
of
M
law,
professor
one
of
the
most
respected
arbitrators
in
the
land,
about
the
City
of
Minneapolis,
not
Police,
Department,
not
disciplining
for
anything,
let
alone
excessive
force,
they're
not
being
held
accountable
to
to
keep
us
safe
or
protect
us
safe
to
show
up
on
time
to
do
their
jobs.
We're
seeing
a
work
slow
down
because
their
feelings
are
hurt,
that
is
a
failure
of
management,
is
what
it
is.
T
So,
whatever
is
decided
with
with
you
know,
whatever
Community
thing
might
end
up
happening
until
we
have
accountability
and
us
as
a
community
of
ripping
the
shield
off
of
these
lies
that
we've
heard
and
we've
come
to
accept
and
believe
there
are
seven
tests
of
just
cause.
The
burden
of
proof
is
on
the
employer,
you
can
set
rules
and
you
can
enforce
them
and
it's
time
to
do
it.
It
needed
to
happen
forever
ago.
It
can
happen,
starting
today
say
we
will
not
accept.
T
You
know
inferior
work,
we
need
quality
work
and
you
will
be
disciplined
up
to
it,
including
termination.
It
can
happen.
There's
nothing
special
in
this
collective
bargaining
agreement
compared
to
any
other
ones.
I
work
for
I
represent
state
employees.
Currently
I've
been
a
public
sector
business
agent
for
10
years,
state
employees
get
disciplined
for
far
less
and
that
in
the
in
the
termination
stick,
because
the
state
of
Minnesota
is
a
far
better
employer
than
the
City
of
Minneapolis
Police
Department.
It's
time
to
change.
G
Let
me
start
on
a
positive
note:
there
are
just
111
days
left
till
spring
now
the
ordinance
three
comments.
First,
you
ought
to
delay
the
decision.
The
ordinance's
wording
has
been
available
for
two
days.
Last
time,
a
major
overhaul
of
Civilian
oversight
was
done.
That
was
in
2012.
The
citizens
had
the
wording
for
several
weeks
before
any
forums,
public
forum
or
Community
forums
were
held,
and,
curiously,
as
of
last
night,
the
video
of
this
committee's
November
9th
meeting
where
Mr
Hawkins
made
a
similar
presentation,
was
not
available
on
YouTube.
G
Moreover,
even
the
previous
pcoc
chairperson,
who
raised
the
most
questions
about
the
city,
obstructing
the
ability
of
a
pclc
to
do
its
work,
which
the
mdhr
also
noted,
was
not
consulted
on
this
for
input
on
this
process,
I
asked
her
on
Monday
if
she
had
been
consulted.
She
hadn't
second
yesterday,
a
young
woman
who,
incidentally,
was
an
unsuccessful
applicant
to
serve
on
the
pcoc,
sent
me
a
version
of
the
proposed
ordinance
changes
that
was
far
more
informative
than
the
version
posted
on
the
city's
website.
G
It
showed
both
the
current
ordinance
and
the
proposed
ordinance
together
what
language
would
be
deleted?
What
would
be
kept
and
what
would
be
new
in
that
format,
which,
by
the
way,
was
the
format
the
console
used
in
the
2012
overall
civilian
oversight?
It's
much
clearer
what
the
proposed
changes
are
on
Monday
when
I
listened
to
the
presentations
from
the
Civil
Rights
department
and
the
city
attorney's
office.
G
None
of
the
most
controversial
changes
were
even
mentioned
by
them,
and
they
weren't
mentioned
by
either
of
them
today,
either
again
a
lack
of
transparency
about
what
is
being
proposed,
which
leads
to
a
lack
of
trust
and
remember.
The
only
reason
we
have
civilian
oversight
is
because
of
a
lack
of
trust.
Third,
the
thrust
of
these
changes
is
how
to
have
the
complaints
received
by
the
opcr
best
better
informed,
the
policy
recommendations
of
the
new
commission.
The
community
overwhelmingly
recommended
that
10
years
ago.
G
You
didn't
listen,
then,
but
under
this
proposal,
why
the
new
commission
as
a
whole
after
a
year
will
have
the
facts
on
about
30
cases.
Each
commissioner
will
have
the
facts
only
in
four
cases.
Now
they
see
the
facts
in
72
cases
a
year.
Under
this
proposal,
the
transparency
expanded
to
four
cases.
I,
don't
think
that's
an
expansion.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
U
Thank
you,
councilmember
Vita
and
the
other
council
members
here
today.
Thank
you
for
this
public
hearing
on
this
proposal.
I
share
the
concerns
by
my
fellow
community
members.
I'm,
a
resident
of
Ward,
6
and
I
have
been
organizing,
along
with
others,
with
Minneapolis
for
community
control
of
the
police.
Many
of
you
we've
had
Direct
I've
had
meetings
with
some
of
you.
Others
have
met
with
other
people
working
on
our
campaign.
We
have
thousands
of
community
members
more
than
have
voted
for.
U
Most
of
you
sign
a
petition
to
put
the
actual
community
control
on
the
ballot
in
Minneapolis,
not
a
so-called
Community
commission,
where
Commissioners
get
50
bucks
a
meeting
and
treat
this
as
a
side
job
and
share
power
with
police
and
in
fact,
don't
have
power.
Ours
is
a
real
commission.
It's
a
real
job,
it's
a
full-time
job,
it
has
actual
teeth.
We
want
a
community
controlled
all
civilian
police,
accountability.
Commission.
U
We
want
people
that
are
elected
by
us,
not
selected
by
you
and
the
mayor,
and
we
want
a
commission
that
has
the
power
to
decide
not
just
make
recommendations
at
the
end
of
the
day.
If
we
only
have
the
power
to
make
suggestions,
it's
not
power
and
I.
Think
like
many
of
my
fellow
Minneapolis
residents,
especially
those
who've,
been
engaged
in
trying
to
address
the
issue
of
police
racism
and
violence
in
our
communities.
U
I
took
offense
from
the
jump
at
the
proposals
from
your
staff,
which
say
things
like
this
will
be
a
way
to
empower
and
make
us
feel
like.
We
have
something
to
say
about
the
police.
I
wish
I
had
the
language
in
front
of
me,
but
I
didn't
quite
have
it
together.
But
if
you
look
at
the
first,
the
first
presentation
it
it
it's
not
about
actual
power
and
actual
empowering
of
the
community.
It's
about
making
us
feel
like
we
can
see
more
and
we
can
know
more
and
we
can
do
more.
U
At
the
end
of
the
day
until
you
put
the
Power
in
the
hands
of
community
members
to
decide
who
Patrol,
who
polices
our
communities
and
how
our
communities
are
police
they're,
not
giving
the
community
power
at
all.
What
you're
doing
is
continuing
the
status
quo.
So
I
want
to
urge
you
all
to
vote
no
on
this
plan
and
instead
work
with
us
to
push
forward
for
CPAC,
a
civilian
police,
accountability,
commission
and
real
change
to
put
a
real
end
to
police
abuses
in
our
names.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
V
My
name
is
Justin
Grady
I
live
in
Ward,
six
I've
lived
in
I'm,
sorry,
I
live
in
Ward
7.
I've
lived
in
Ward
7
for
about
almost
25
years
now,
I
was
reading.
The
proposal
for
the
ccpo
and
I
would
just
say
just
even
as
like
a
regular
citizen
trying
to
understand
this
legislation,
it's
very
confusing,
it
seems
very
convoluted.
It
seems
very
like
a
process
that
takes
a
long
time
to
get
through
and
get
any
kind
of
Justice.
V
If
you
get
that
it
doesn't
sound
like
this
proposal,
will
I
mean
I
agree
with
all
the
all
the
criticisms
that
have
been
stated
before
and
I
I
stand
behind
that
it
just
does
not
seem
like
this
proposal
would
be
very
helpful.
Communities
United
against
police
brutality
has
done
some
really
great
research
on
what
could
work
better
and
I.
Think
that
that
should
be
considered
by
the
city
council.
Also,
the
Twin
Cities
Coalition
for
justice
for
Jamar
has
written
some
a
proposal
that
is
I,
think
much
better.
That
would
actually
hold
police
accountable.
V
W
W
We
have
to
give
them
the
tools
of
which
to
work
so
that
we
can
get
on
top
of
the
community
I'm.
Also
Minneapolis
police,
Reserve
retired,
served
17
years
in
the
United
States
Army,
as
military
police
supervisor
and
K-9
Handler
bomb
dog
handler
I
would
ask
that
our
people
would
have
enough
vision
to
be
appointed
where
you
understand
both
sides
of
the
issue,
there's
not
always
bad
cops
but
sure
we
have
bad
cops
and
we
need
to
get
rid
of
the
bad
cops
but
you're
not
going
to
get
rid
of
everybody.
W
W
So
I
would
ask
that
we
move
this
forward
and
we
get
going
with
things
that
are
backlogged
on
us,
so
that
we
can
start
answering
these
issues
and
I
would
ask
the
citizens
to
please.
Please
don't
put
this
to
a
vote.
This
isn't
a
vote.
This
is
an
appointment.
These
Personnel
aren't
running
for
an
office
they're.
The
Commissioners
are
running
to
protect
the
citizens
of
Minneapolis
from
unruly
law
enforcement
so
that
we
can
correct
it,
knowing
it
and
working
it,
you
have
a
better
chance
and
I.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
X
Hello,
my
name
is
rias
mikulski
I
live
in
ward
8..
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
allowing
me
to
have
two
minutes
of
input.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
also
stolen
land.
It
is
Dakota
land.
It's
important
for
us
to
remember
that
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
there
should
be
no
cops
on
review
panels.
X
X
The
members
of
this
should
be
elected,
not
selected,
doesn't
allow
actual
Community
input.
X
X
Y
Yes,
my
name
is
Daniel
Corby.
Thank
you
city
council,
for
offering
us
this
time
to
speak.
I'm
with
Twin
Cities
Justice
for
Jamar
and
I
want
to
start
off
by
stating
a
statistic
that
was
brought
to
light
by
communities
United
against
police
brutality,
which
is
that
under
the
pcoc,
only
six
officers
who
were
disciplined
in
a
five-year
period,
that's
out
of
over
1600
civilian
complaints
in
that
same
period,
and
that
was
of
course,
before
they
stopped
meeting
altogether.
Y
There
is
nothing
in
this
new
proposed
ccpo
that
would
stop
that
from
happening
again.
It
is
still
two
officers,
two
City
a
pound,
his
City
appointed
board
members,
and
they
still
can
only
make
recommendations.
They
cannot
actually
discipline.
That's
why
we
need
CPAC,
which
would
be
elected
with
no
police
affiliation.
They
would
actually
be
able
to
discipline
instead
of
just
making
recommendations
and
they
would
actually
be
a
transparent.
They
would
have
to
publish
the
result
of
every
investigation
to
the
public,
unlike
this
proposed
ccpo,
which
would
not
be
transparent
at
all.
Y
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
putting
the
word
community
in
this
proposal
is
just
deceptive
because,
as
others
have
stated,
the
community,
it
was
not
consulted
at
all
in
this
proposal.
Thank
you
again
for
your
time
and
just
want
to
say
that
we
should
have
seat
back
instead,.
A
Z
Z
Civilian
review
board
couldn't
find
any
any
evidence
and
dropped
a
case.
We
went
back
and
opened
it
up
and
started
a
new
case.
We
found
four
eyewitnesses,
we
found
Mike
curtising
guilty
and
his
his
partner
as
well,
instead
of
going
to
jail.
If
you
turn
off
your
headlights,
you
run
a
child
over
that's
premeditated
okay.
Z
He
got
promoted
to
the
mayor's
chauffeur
and
bodyguard
and
he
was
a
bodyguard
for
and
chauffeur
for,
sales
Belden
and
for
our
RT,
my
nephew
that
they're
aerodondo
ex-chief
he
arranged
meetings
when
he
was
a
surgeon
for
me
and
Mike
to
sit
down
and
talk
and
I
humanized
him
and
he
started
a
program
called
cops
on
bikes
for
kids,
okay
and
he
started
working
in
my
community
and
we
got
to
know
each
other
a
little
better
and
Mike
became
officer
of
the
year.
Z
Instead
of
going
to
jail
for
four
or
five
years
like
you
should
have,
he
got
a
promotion
all
right.
We
don't
need
this
to
happen
anymore.
We
need
to
do
something
in
our
each
Community.
We
need
to
get
officers
from
our
community.
We
need
to
recruit
our
young
people
from
our
community.
We
need
to
adopt
a
cop
for
each
community.
Z
Okay,
we
need
Community
officers
and
we
need
to
do
this
on
community
level.
You
guys
don't
know
us
and
we
don't
know
them,
but
we
need
officers
that
know
us
and
we
need
officers
that
we
do
know
so
that
when
something
does
happen,
we
are
accountable
as
well
as
they
are.
We
need
to
humanize
this
city
council,
as
well
as
the
police
department
for
the
community's
sake.
Z
AA
Hello,
everybody,
my
name
is
Tammy
skinnerway,
formerly
from
East
Phillips
community
and
other
areas
of
Minneapolis
I'm
born
and
raised
born
at
General
Hospital
before
it
was
Hennepin.
Healthcare
I
have
no
permanent
address
at
this
time.
I
am
an
educated
woman,
I
like
to
stand
up
and
tell
my
truths,
which
I
would
hope
that
you
know
us
in
our
beautiful
city
here
would
promote
those
things
to
to
be
the
normal
thing
for
young
people
as
well
as
ourselves.
AA
Here
we
are
again
with
a
minute
and
34
seconds
and
I
have
so
much
in
my
mind
to
say
in
2018.
At
the
same
time,
I
was
applying
for
the
position
to
work
for
Mr,
Clyde,
Bell
Court
rest
in
peace
at
the
American
Indian
movement,
interpretive
Center,
which
gave
the
history
of
the
American
Indian
movement
and
many
other
issues
that
indigenous
peoples
have
faced
and
still
face
to
this
day.
AA
Every
time
I
see
the
mayor,
he
knows
what
I
say
you,
sir
you're,
a
human
being.
We
have
souls
so
with
my
28
seconds
here.
I
would
just
like
to
ask
you
to
please
if
it
was
in
a
good
way,
the
times
that
you
thought
about
sitting
at
that
desk
right
there
behind
at
your
offices,
think
about
why
you
started
in
the
first
place,
if
it
wasn't
a
good
way
for
the
people,
rewind
the
tape,
because
that
gavel
hurts
my
ears.
AA
It
sounds
like
we
don't
listen
to
each
other.
So
if
you
could
look
back
at
the
history
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
the
history
of
Minneapolis,
on
YouTube,
there's
black
and
white
videos-
there's
you
know
just
educate
yourself,
and
it
can
tell
you
where
we're
at
right
now,
but
it's
all
love
we
will
heal.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank.
P
Hello,
listen
Alyssa,
Washington
here
with
the
wrong
fleeing
incarcerated
and
over
sentence
families
Council
my
fiance
has
been
incarcerated
for
17
years,
serving
a
life
without
possibility
of
parole
on
her
first
ever
any
case,
he's
ever
been
involved
in
and
it
all
started
with
the
crooked
cops
in
the
fourth
precinct
they
are.
There
is
two:
it
happens
time
and
time
again,
where
we're
offering
sentences
deductions
to
people
to
falsely
testify
against
our
people.
P
It
happens
too
often,
and
it's
still
happening
today
in
2006,
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
was
taking
men
out
of
our
community
and
locking
them
up
with
no
evidence
or
with
nothing
just
taking
them,
ripping
them
from
our
homes.
These
are
leaders
that
we
would
have
had
out
here
today
to
help
curb
the
violence
that
we're
going
through
right
now
and
that's
a
fact.
P
I
would
like
anybody
to
everybody
here
to
educate
yourself
on
the
racial
disparities
that
were
that
are
amongst
us
in
Minneapolis,
I'm
educated
as
well
and
I'm,
educating
myself
more
and
more
on
how
we're
really
treated
here
in
Minneapolis,
I
asked
myself.
How
did
my
family
end
up
here?
It's
scary
to
be
here
to
see
that
my
loved
ones
when
they're
when
they
come
out
the
womb,
it
seems
like
they're,
making
inmate
inmate
they're,
giving
them
inmate
numbers
when
they're
coming
out
the
womb.
P
You
know
like
we,
it
seems
like
we
have
no
we're
not
getting
nowhere
and
we
don't
have
a
chance
coming
from
where
I
come
from.
You
know,
I
I
really
hope
that
you
guys
vote
no
on
this
because
it
all
all
the
people
that
have
passed
away
here
by
at
the
hands
of
police
I
can
assure
you
if
they
weren't
killed.
P
They
would
have
been
wrongfully
incarcerated
or
locked
up,
and
that's
that's
the
it
happens
too
often
here
that
is,
that
is
what's
going
on
here
in
it
and
it
troubles
me
it
and
I
really
hope
that
you
guys
find
it
in
your
heart
to
really
vote.
No,
that's
not
it's
not
getting
this
nowhere.
I
would
like
to
have
a
say
so
on
who
polices
my
neighborhood,
you
know
my
family
would
love
to
have
a
say-so,
as
somebody
at
least
coming
from
where
we're
from
you
know.
A
H
Yeah,
my
name
is
Jay
Yates
I'm,
a
ward
9
resident
I
first
want
to
address
the
residency
issue
because
nobody's
brought
that
up.
Yet
only
eight
percent
of
Minneapolis
cops
live
in
the
city.
Are
the
other
92
percent
of
non-residents
eligible
to
make
decisions
for
us
as
residents
in
the
presentation,
it
stated
that
the
residency
requirement
can
be
waived.
H
Any
commission
whose
decisions
can
simply
be
vetoed
by
the
police
chief
is
pointless.
We
have
seen
time
and
time
again
that
when
officers
are
allowed
to
conduct
their
own
investigations,
they
find
themselves
not
guilty.
Our
community
has
been
ravaged
by
racist
police
violence
for
decades
and
we
would
serve
better
than
this
farceable
legislation.
No
cops
and
police
oversight
vote
no
on
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
A
F
You
chair,
Vita
I,
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
every
single
person
who
testified,
I've,
heard
a
lot
of
concerns
and
criticisms
about
the
specifics
of
this
proposal,
but
more
than
anything,
I
heard
that
it's
simply
not
good
governance,
to
propose
something
and
give
the
public
only
48
hours
to
consider
it
and
then
have
a
public
discussion
on
it
before
we
vote
on
it
and
that's,
including
us,
even
as
council
members,
having
being
made
aware
of
this
ordinance
on
Monday
afternoon,
while
also
being
charged
with
moving
forward
a
budget
proposal
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
residents,
while
also
having
to
shape
and
submit
our
our
deadlines
of
of
legislative
amendments,
so
that
we're
also
lobbying
at
the
capitol
for
the
things
our
residents
need.
F
It's
just
not
good
governance
to
be
making
this
decision
right
now
and
I
know
very
clearly.
Police
oversight
is
a
top
priority
for
all
of
our
residents.
We
have
many
folks
in
community
who
have
been,
as
many
of
you
testified,
to
been
deeply
hurt
by
officers
and
by
our
City's
failure
to
hold
them
accountable.
We
have
folks
who
have
been
dedicated
for
decades
to
organizing
for
a
better
system.
F
This
ordinance
about
delaying
it
to
actually
give
us
the
time
all
the
committee
members
to
actually
bring
something
that
is
going
to
be
meeting
the
community's
demands
that
we
heard
today
and
have
been
for
a
number
of
years,
so
I'm
making
the
motion
to
delay
this
until
our
next
PHS
cycle
again
to
give
us
the
time
to
review
the
proposal,
develop
more
amendments
than
what
is
just
before
us
today.
Right
now,
before
we're
being
asked
to
take
a
vote,
I
will
even
know
just
on
Monday
I.
F
My
office
held
a
community
conversation
on
this
very
proposal
and
you
all
showed
up,
and
you
showed
out
again
with
all
of
these
concerns
and
you
all
even
name
that
the
action
that
we're
taking
today
felt
like
a
legislative
assault
and
I
heard
that
I
take.
That
accusation
very
seriously
and
I
encourage
my
colleagues
to
also
do
the
same
and
vote
in
favor
of
the
lane
as
giving
ourselves
three
weeks
to
actually
bring
something
that
the
community
will
feel
confident
in
because
they
had
a
chance
to
co-shape
it
with
us.
A
We
have
a
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
now
for
a
delay
and
I'm
gonna
ask
the
clerks
to
take
a
Voice
vote
council
member
wansley's
motion
to
delay.
C
A
Fails
please
please,
no,
please.
A
Least
till
this
ordinance
gets
fixed,
I
I'm,
asking
you
to
please
I'm
Matt
I'm,
asking
you
to
please
be
quiet,
Miss
gross.
When
you
spoke
a
pen
could
drop
in
this
room
and
we
could
hear
it
so
I'm
asking
you
to
please
be
quiet
and
respectful
when
other
people
are
speaking.
Thank
you
Council.
Vice
president
palmisano.
AB
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
pcoc
and
opcr
are
things
we've
been
working
on
for
years.
I've
worked
on
them
myself
for
some
of
those
years
and,
as
has
been
mentioned,
as
has
been
mentioned
in
the
public
feedback
sessions,
and
today
it
wasn't
good
enough
and
we
get
that
our
city
deserves
more,
and
this
is
our
attempt
to
do
better.
AB
This
doesn't
address
the
many
criticisms
of
police
overall.
This
is
only
about
the
oversight
of
documented
allegations
of
police
misconduct
and
one
really
important
piece
that
we've
tried
to
do
in
other
ways
over
time,
but
got
confusing
is
to
give
a
public
face
to
the
opcr
and
more
access
by
the
public.
This
will
help
them
be
in
contact
with
our
community.
It's
it's
more
than
a
gesture.
We
are
working
to
build
transparency
and
accountability.
AB
AB
We
need
to
continually
increase
accountability,
and
that
is,
and
has
been
my
driving
force
in
this
whole
government
restructure
that
we've
been
going
through
since
this
last
election.
One
of
those
ways
is
to
do
important
revisions
and
improvements
to
all
of
our
boards
and
commissions
things
we
ask
of
residents
of
our
city
to
participate
in
and
this
one.
This
has
been
the
top
priority
in
terms
of
being
the
first
board
in
commission
that
we
need
to
revamp.
So
we
are,
as
you've,
seen
getting
this
done
and
not
waiting
several
weeks
to
pass
it.
AB
In
fact,
we
have
unique
ability,
as
we
walk
into
budget
markup
tomorrow,
to
make
sure
we're
investing
in
these
new
Commissioners
and
their
training.
I.
Don't
think
there
is
a
good
reason
to
wait,
but
there
might
be
additional
improvements
to
make
and
let's
get
this
started
already.
I
think
we
can
move
forward
today
and
keep
in
conversation
and
vote
on
it
as
a
full
body.
Next
week.
A
Not
please
don't
have
back
and
forth
conversations
Latonya,
please
Miss
gross
I've
asked
you
several
times.
If
this
Behavior
continues,
I'm
gonna
ask
that
you
be
removed.
We
were
respectful
of
you
and
I'm
asking
you
to
do
the
same
of
every
single
person
in
this
room
be
respectful
when
other
people
are
speaking.
A
Being
rude
is
gonna,
get
you
nowhere
in
this
in
this
committee,
being
rude
is
going
to
get
you
nowhere.
If
you
want
to
have
a
conversation,
you
all
had
your
two
minutes
to
speak.
We
can
speak
afterwards,
if
that's
the
case,
but
please
be
respectful
of
other
people's
time.
I
would
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
AB
Go
for
it.
Please
I
want
to
clarify
an
assertion
that
the
new
ccpo
ordinance
limits,
access
to
necessary
information
regarding
Police
Operations
policies
and
practices
for
Commissioners.
What
the
ordinance
does
is.
It
enables
the
commission
to
request
information
and
projects
from
civil
rights
staff.
The
expansion
of
duties
of
the
commission
also
provides
each
commissioner
with
access
to
policemen
misconduct,
investigative
data
when
they
are
being
review
panelists,
so
that
is
a
new
and
expanded
Authority.
AB
That's
being
granted
to
this
Commission
we've
heard
concerns
about
background
checks
being
required
to
apply
to
the
commission
were
required
by
federal
law,
to
conduct
background
checks
on
anyone
who
have
will
have
access
to
this
kind
of
data,
and
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
remove
that
element
from
this
ordinance.
It
should
be
in
there
we've
heard
concerns
regarding
residency
requirements
of
Commissioners
being
removed.
That
is
not
the
case.
AB
So
with
that,
in
all
of
this
conversation
in
mind,
I'm
bringing
forward
the
author's
amendments,
this
is
by
council
president
Jenkins
to
respond
to
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
have
received
through
the
full
vetting
process.
She
can't
be
here
in
person
today.
There
are
copies
for
the
public
on
the
Deus
and
there
are
copies
for
the
public
in
front
of
my
colleagues.
I
will
move
these
and
ask
if
I
can
just
briefly
outline
them
if
there's
a
second
would.
A
AB
AB
Again
state
law
says
that
only
a
chief
can
impose
discipline
and
that
panels
can
give
recommendations.
So
I
see
this
as
an
important
compromise.
The
council
president
sees
this
as
an
important
compromise
to
give
an
additional
ccpo
member,
so
it
would
be
three
ccpo
members
and
two
sworn
positions
on
these
panels.
The
Third
change
is
a
change
in
the
description
of
vote
requirements
for
official
action
by
the
ccpo.
AB
We
want
to
make
that
consistent
with
other
bodies
such
as
the
board
of
estimate
and
Taxation,
and
we
hear
that
there
is
a
lot
of
confusion
in
How,
It,
Was
Written
in
the
draft.
The
fourth
is
a
change
in
the
selection
of
the
commissioned
chair.
AB
It's
been,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
on
that
with
the
council
president
and
where
she
wishes
to
take
the
feedback
that
we've
received
through
these
sessions
and
have
that
commissioner,
chaired
selected
by
the
body
a
more
minor
one
is
about
the
balance
of
who
in
City
Hall
does
the
appointing
the
mayor
versus
the
council,
and
so
that's
another
change.
You'll
see
in
there.
I
think
that
pretty
well
summarizes
them.
AB
AB
I
cannot
speak
for
council
president
Jenkins,
but
I
do
know
and
agree
with
her
that
it's
important
that
we
get
this
work
started
on
the
right,
foot
and
I
think
her
improvements
do
that.
Thank.
C
So
I
was
thinking
of
Madam.
Chair
I
was
advocating
referring
this
back
to
staff
so
that
we
weren't
throwing
amendments
around
at
the
Deus.
But
I
guess
we'll
do
Committee
of
working
on
committee
so
I'm
making
a
motion
to
amend
the
section,
172.60,
B
composition
for
this
to
remain
15
members
appointed
by
city
council,
two
members
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
the
chair
and
vice
chair
selected
by
the
body.
F
C
E
Sure
Madam
chair
into
councilmember
Payne's
additional
Amendment.
It's
my
understanding
and
I
think
this
is
Page
Three,
section
172.60,
section
B
you're
proposing
to
leave.
Tell
me
if
I'm
correct
the
membership
at
15
members
with
the
allocation
of
eight
to
the
council
and
or
did
I
did
it
go
back
to
13
13
by
the
council.
C
E
Returning
back
to
the
original
as
written
is
shown
in
strike
through
13
by
Council
two
by
the
mayor
and
I
didn't
catch
the
rest,
that's
why
I
jumped
up
to
the
diocese.
E
The
body
okay,
so
that
would
be
an
amendment
in
section
H1,
further
down
which
says
instead
of
the
commission,
selecting
its
members,
it
would
be
that
the
council
would
select
the
chair
in
the
vice
chair,
so
I
think
we've
captured,
that
is,
that
correct,
councilmember,
Payne.
C
E
A
AB
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
between
the
council
president
and
the
mayor
this
morning
and
I
wasn't
part
of
their
discussion,
but
this
was
seen
as
the
compromise,
given
the
fact
that
you
know
this
is
about
a
balance
of
being
able
to
select
something
and
work
together.
AB
So
I
won't
be
able
to
support
this
amendment
to
the
original
motion,
because
I'm
just
going
to
respect
the
the
conversations
that
are
we're
trying
to
be
a
bridge
between
the
council
and
the
mayor's
office
here
and
I,
don't
think
that
would
make
sense
to
revert
it
back
to
what
it
is
given.
These
other
changes
like
election
of
the
chair
from
the
full
from
the
body
itself.
F
Thank
you,
chair,
V,
Todd
I
just
want
to
know
something
that
you
raised
Council
vice
president
palmisano.
It's
our
job
up
here
to
make
legislative
amendments
from
my
understanding.
This
is
an
ordinance
that
we
all
have
the
responsibility
to
weigh
on.
This
is
not
a
mayor
in
council
president
Jenkins
ordinance.
This
should
be
shaped
by
this
body,
so
would
love
to
either
take
up
council
members
pains
motion
to
refer
back
to
the
author
so
that
they
can
spend
time
to
get
those
conversations
with
us.
A
So
we're
gonna
vote
on
a
clerk
just
for
clarification,
we're
going
to
vote
on
Council
Vice,
chair,
Payne,
Amendment.
E
So
with
a
second
I'll,
just
read
again
on
page
three
under
Section
172.60,
subsection,
V
composition,
it
would
say
the
community
Commission
on
police
oversight
should
be
composed
of
15
members,
13
of
whom
she'll
be
appointed
by
the
city
council
and
two
of
whom
shall
be
appointed
by
the
mayor
further
on
in
subsection
H1
under
organization.
On
the
next
page
page
four,
it
would
say
that
the
city
council
shall
designate
the
chair
and
vice
chair
of
the
commission,
and
then
it
would
cut
to
the
next
line.
All
members
of
the
commission,
Shall
Serve.
AC
C
A
That
fails
and
now
we're
on
to
council
member
Paul,
massano's,
Amendment
and
I'm
gonna,
also
council,
member
Payne.
C
I'm
going
to
make
an
emotion
to
amend,
section,
172.40
A
to
have
our
panel
be
composed
of
five
panelists,
one
of
which
would
be
a
sworn
oftener
sworn
officer
and
four
of
which
would
be
members
of
the
commission,
can
I
get
a
second.
AC
AC
AC
A
And
two
knees
that
carries
and
on
to
the
main
motion,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
main
motion,
please
signify
by
saying
I
I.
U
Y
C
A
There
are
three
eyes
and
two
names
that
motion
carries
and
the
committee's
recommendation
will
be
forwarded
to
next
week's
council
meeting
for
final
action.
Thank
you.
Everyone
who
came
today
and
supported
this
public
hearing.
Our
second
public
hearing
is
on
the
approval
of
appointments
to
the
Civil
Rights
Commission
and
here
to
present
on
this
item
is
Kayla,
McCannon,
hello
and
welcome
hello.
AD
A
F
A
You
can
you
hold
on
one
second,
please
I'm
gonna,
ask
folks
to
please
step
in
the
hallway.
We
have
a
presentation,
that's
coming
up
and
again
we're.
We
want
to
be
respectful
of
the
people
here.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
for
coming
today.
AE
Good
afternoon,
chair,
Vita
Vice,
chair
Payne
council
members.
Thanks
for
having
me,
my
name
is
Kayla
mcconnendiera
and
I'm.
The
director
of
the
complaint
investigations
division
within
the
Minneapolis
civil
rights
department,
and
it
is
my
division's
pleasure
to
provide
the
staff
support
to
the
Civil
Rights
Commission
I'm
excited
to
be
here
today
to
present
our
proposed
slate
of
new
civil
rights.
Commissioners.
AE
We're
really
excited
about
the
diverse
backgrounds,
experiences
and
skills
that
these
folks
could
bring
to
these
Civil
Rights
Commission
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
commissioners
prospective
Commissioners
who
are
here
today
in
person,
especially
because
they
had
to
wait
quite
a
bit.
So
I
really
appreciate
their
patience,
and
what
I
plan
to
do
is
just
provide
a
brief
background
on
the
commission.
AE
Go
through
each
of
the
candidates
and
provide
you
just
a
very
brief
synopsis
of
their
backgrounds
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
any
of
the
Commissioners
who
are
here
who
are
prospective
Commissioners,
who
are
here
who
would
like
to
make
a
statement.
So,
to
start
just
for
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
Civil
Rights
Commission,
it's
been
around
for
quite
some
time.
It
has
a
pretty
impressive
history.
It
was
established
in
1975
with
this
language
in
city
ordinance.
AE
It's
21
members,
so
it's
one
of
our
bigger
commissions
and
they
are
appointed
by
both
mayor
and
city
council.
We
do
have
a
requirement
for
a
number
of
attorney
members.
There's
a
minimum
of
six
and
a
maximum
of
eight
attorney
seats
on
the
commission,
and
those
attorneys
must
be
actively
licensed
and
all
Commissioners
must
be
residents
of
Minneapolis
unless
granted
a
waiver.
Everyone
being
brought
forward
today
is
a
resident
of
the
city
and
then
I
just
want
to
highlight
two
key
roles
that
the
commission
plays.
AE
First
is
community
engagement,
so
this
is
a
really
important
part
of
the
work
that
the
commission
does
and
they
engage
the
community
via
tabling
and
volunteering,
disseminating
educational
materials,
attending
lectures
and
events
throughout
the
city,
planning
events
and
Forums
on
civil
rights
issues.
A
recent
example
is
George
Floyd
day,
which
happened
a
few
weeks
ago
and
was
commission
inspired
and
sponsored
and
then
also
meeting
with
community
members
and
elected
officials,
and
then
an
additional
role
is
serving
on
review
panels.
AE
So
our
commissioners
serve
on
review
panels
responsible
for
appeals
made
by
complainants
those
who
file
charges
of
discrimination
in
discrimination
cases.
These
appeals
come
from
determinations
made
by
the
division
that
I
manage
the
complaint
investigations,
division
of
the
Civil
Rights
department
and
they
look
at
appeals
of
dismissals
and
no
probable
cause
findings
that
we
make
with
that.
I
will
go
through
our
list
of
prospective
Commissioners
and
provide
you
just
a
brief
amount
of
information
about
all
of
them.
So
our
first
is
Sheila
Scott.
AE
She
is
from
Ward
4
and
a
retired
attorney
who
previously
worked
for
the
Minnesota
Department
of
Human,
Rights
and
other
state
agencies
on
issues
around
Equity
compliance
and
affirmative
action.
She
served
as
a
workplace
activist
Advocate
throughout
her
career,
as
well
as
an
advocate
for
residents
on
the
North
side,
and
she
has
proposed
to
fill
seat.
Three
Anne-Marie
scoot
from
Ward
11
is
a
licensed
attorney
currently
working
as
a
civil
rights
investigator
for
the
University
of
Minnesota
has
previous
experience
in
employment
law
and
is
interested
in
Fair
Housing
Resource
allocation
and
compliance.
AE
She
has
proposed
to
fill
seat
six,
which
is
an
attorney
seat.
Next
we
have
Anthony
Burns
from
Ward
10.
He
is
a
security
professional
with
extensive
Community
involvement,
particularly
with
youth
and
unhoused
community
members.
He
previously
won
the
youth
leadership
of
the
Year
award
from
the
YMCA
and
a
service
award
from
Ramsey
County,
homeless,
shelter
staff.
He
has
proposed
a
fill
seat
13..
AE
We
have
Jameson
witting
from
Ward
12
a
licensed
attorney
practicing
currently
at
fagory
Drinker
and
with
extensive
Community
involvement,
including
membership
in
the
Twin,
Cities
diversity
and
practice.
He
serves
as
a
pro
bono
advocate
for
local
non-profits
and
is
a
football
coach
at
Washburn
High
School.
AE
Next
we
have
Cindy
Lord.
This
is
a
reappointment.
Ms
Lord
has
served
on
the
commission
for
quite
some
time
and
is
the
current
chair
of
the
engagement
and
research
subcommittee.
She
led
commission
initiatives
around
equity
in
home
ownership,
as
well
as
addressing
implicit
bias
in
education
and
she
is
proposed
to
fill
seat
16..
We
have
another
reappointment
in
Brian
Bradford
from
Ward
three.
AE
He
was
appointed
to
the
commission
last
year
and
he's
the
assistant
director
of
alumni
and
employer
relations
at
the
Humphrey
school
and
has
years
of
experience,
building
Equity
inclusion
efforts,
and
it
also
manages
a
large
group
of
volunteers
and
does
event
planning
in
his
work.
He
has
proposed
to
fill
seat
17..
AE
Next
we
have
Cindy
devanish.
This
is
also
a
reappointment
and
she
is
the
current
chair
of
the
commission
and
has
led
many
of
the
commission
initiatives,
including
George
Floyd
day,
which
I
mentioned
earlier.
The
push
for
a
gun,
violence,
accountability,
task
force
and
proclamations
regarding
islamophobia
and
anti-asian
hate,
among
other
things,
and
she
has
proposed
to
fill
seat
18..
Next
we
have
Stella
Thomas
from
ward
3.
AE
Next,
we
have
Michael
Smith
from
Ward
11
recently
received
award
an
award
actually
from
the
commission
itself
for
his
work
in
creating
Community
spaces
for
Youth
and
community
outreach
for
the
unhoused
he
currently
Works
in
housing,
and
is
interested
in
community
well-being,
Community
safety
and
investing
in
youth
initiatives,
and
he
has
proposed
to
fill
seat
20
and
then
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
we
have
Alyssa
Green
from
Ward
13..
AE
She
is
an
experienced
mental
health
counselor
with
a
background
in
political,
organizing,
she's,
a
current
Humphrey
school
policy
fellow
and
is
interested
specifically
in
addressing
discrimination
in
housing,
health
care
and
Public
Safety,
and
she
has
proposed
to
fill
seat
21..
So
with
that
I'll
take
any
questions
that
council
members
might
have
and
then
I
would
invite
any
of
our
commissioners
who
prospective
Commissioners,
who
are
president
and
would
like
to
make
a
statement
to
come
up.
I
will
also
note
that
I
have
a
timing
conflict.
AE
A
AE
A
Any
questions
see
no
other
questions.
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing.
I
will
go
through
the
list
of
speakers
in
the
order
in
which
they
were
registered.
If
you
have
not
signed
up-
and
you
wish
to
speak,
please
see
the
clerk
and
do
so
I'll.
Ask
that
you
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
your
comments
are
limited
to
two
minutes.
The
timer
by
the
clerk
will
show
you
how
much
time
you
have
remaining,
and
our
first
speaker
is
commissioner
Cindy
Davis
welcome.
AF
Good
afternoon,
distinguished
Commissioners,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Cindy
devanish
and
I
currently
live
in
Ward
4
and
have
been
in
2016
personally
I.
Think
it's
the
best
word.
Sorry
me
too.
There
you
go
as
as
a
current
chair
for
the
Minneapolis
civil
rights
commission
I,
take
the
great
pleasure
and
honor
to
work
for
Equity
inclusion
and
diversity
on
a
regular
basis
by
reviewing
discrimination
cases
providing
findings
in
issuing
orders
to
dismiss
certain
cases
or
remedy
discrimination
cases
on
our
review
panels.
AF
Proclamations
and
letters
to
elected
officials,
I'm
proud
that
I
have
wrote
and
are
assisted
in
writing
the
stop
islamophobia
resolution
and
stop
Asian
hate
and
stop
the
gun
violence
day
for
2021
and
2022
I
utilize,
the
racial
Equity
tool
from
the
City
of
Minneapolis
to
write
to
stop
the
gun,
violence
resolution
and
we
created
I
led
in
creating
the
first
George
Floyd
day,
which
was
not
only
in
Minneapolis
but
the
state
of
Minnesota,
which
was
on
his
on
George
Floyd's
birthday,
1014
2022
and
it
was
held
here
in
City,
Hall
and
I'm.
AF
AF
I
also
created
two
surveys:
one
for
Commissioners
and
the
other
two,
the
other
one
for
Commissioners
and
Community,
to
create
a
matrix
to
measure
our
success
and
our
areas
of
needed
Improvement,
which
can
be
found
on
our
Facebook
and
Linkedin
page.
So,
thank
you.
That's
my.
A
AG
Justin,
thank
you
and
first
just
a
thank
you
to
Ashley
and
the
rest
of
the
team,
Kayla
Matthew
and
John
for
their
work
behind
the
scenes.
AG
My
name
is:
Jameson
Whiting
I'm,
a
mini
out,
proud,
Minneapolis,
resident,
Ward,
12
and
moving
into
into
three
so
proud
to
be
there
soon,
I'm
a
proud
Hale
field,
Washburn
Alum
attorney
at
factory
Drinker,
like
Kayla,
said,
and
most
importantly,
football
coach
at
Minneapolis,
Washburn
I
know
it's
not
Southwest
and
I
won't
hold
that
against
you,
but
we
might
have
to
ask
you
know
councilmember
Ellis,
and
if
we
can
let
North
High,
let
us
get
a
few
wins
this
year,
so
we'll
see
but
I
want
to.
AG
Thank
you
know
this
body
and
the
mayor
for
the
recommendation
and
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
serve
our
city
in
the
city
that
that
has
given
me
so
much
as
a
young
man.
I
lost
my
father
to
gun
violence
at
a
young
age,
and
this
city
stepped
up.
So
you
know,
especially
as
a
mixed
race.
AG
Black
man
in
this
community
in
the
city
that
can
be
in
go
different
ways
right,
and
so
this
city,
the
city's
teachers,
the
cities,
coaches,
the
city's
parents,
the
cities
neighbors,
the
city's
elected
officials
stepped
up
made
sure
I
went
down
the
right
path,
and
so
it's
been
a
lifelong
journey.
For
me
to
give
back
and
say,
thank
you
to
this
city
and
help
you
all
and
do
that
and
make
sure
we
go
beyond
the
right
path
and
do
the
things
the
right
way.
AG
So
I
appreciate
all
of
your
help
and
I
look
forward
to
joining
this
team
over
here
with
you
all
and
making
sure
we
get
things
done
right.
So
I
appreciate
it.
If
there's
anything,
I
can
do
to
help
you
all
and
help
serve
this
community.
Please
feel
free
to.
Let
me
know
and
I
appreciate
it.
Thanks
again.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else,
I
missed
I'm.
So
sorry,
all
right,
seeing
no
one
else.
I
will
ask
my
oh
I'm,
gonna
close
the
public
hearing
and
now
I'm
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
they
have
any
questions.
AC
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Actually
Jameson
his
before
you
leave.
Could
I
get
a
card
I'd
like
to
have
a
cup
of
coffee
with
you?
Oh.
A
I
I
just
I,
don't
know
what
just
happened
in
my
committee,
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
who
came
today
to
speak.
You
know
that
wants
to
serve
this
way
serving
is
not
easy
and
you
all
have
stepped
up
in
a
big
way
and
are
going
to
serve
this
community
and
I
appreciate
all
of
you.
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
in
particular,
some
of
our
commissioners
have
gone
above
and
beyond
what
I
thought
folks
serving
on
this
body
would
do
and
they're
here.
A
These
two
lovely,
ladies
in
the
back
right
here,
have
done
a
Phenom.
Yes,
a
phenomenal
job
at
as
servant
and
I.
Think
it's
wonderful
that
personally
I
believe
all
the
great
work
they've
done
is
why
we
have
so
many
great
applicants
this
time
around,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
the
service.
Thank
you
for
the
folks
who
are
stepping
up
now
to
join
the
commission.
A
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
and
with
that
seen
nothing
else
before
us
and
in
this
matter,
I'd
like
to
vote
on
it
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
I
I
any
opposed
that
motions
carry
and
the
committee's
recommendations
will
be
forwarded
to
the
next
council
meeting
for
final
action.
Thank
you
all
again,.
A
Next,
we
have
the
consent
agenda
before
us
and
there
are
eight
items
on
today's
consent
agenda
item
three
is
authorizing
a
contract
with
the
Minneapolis
safety
Initiative
for
neighborhood
Patrol
Services
item
four
is
authorizing
a
contract
with
Le
mental
health
for
trauma-informed
Psychological
Services
for
the
police
department
item
five
is
accepting
a
grant
for
the
Minnesota
Department
of
Health
for
evidence-based
family
home
visiting
Services
item.
Six
is
authorizing
an
increase
to
the
contract
for
services
between
special
district
number
one
and
the
health
department
for
mental
health
services.
A
Item
seven
is
approving
appointments
to
the
police
conduct
review
panel
item
8
is
approving
an
appointment
to
the
Homegrown
Minneapolis
food
Council
item.
Nine
is
approving
appointments
to
the
public
health
advisory
committee
item
10
is
approving
the
legislative
directive
related
to
the
administration
of
the
police
department's
buyback
program.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
these
items.
A
A
Oh
I'm,
sorry
so
that
carries
and
the
consent
agenda
is
approved,
and
then
we
have
a
discussion
item.
The
next
item
is
receiving
and
filing
a
report
relating
to
the
operations
of
the
Health
Department's
school-based
clinics
here
to
present
is
Barbara
Kyle
and
Paulie
Yang
from
the
health
department.
Thank
you
both
so
much
for
being
here
and
be
impatient.
A
AD
Well
good
afternoon-
and
we're
really
happy
to
be
here-
and
my
name
is
Barbara
Kyle
I'm,
the
manager
of
the
school-based
clinic
program
and
my
colleague,
Paulie
and
I
are
going
to
do
a
present,
an
overall
presentation
of
the
school-based
clinic
program
and
just
starting
off
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know.
The
school-based
clinic
program
provides
integrated
holistic
care
to
the
young
people
in
our
high
schools.
We
provide
mental
health,
physical
health
in
Partnerships
within
the
school.
AD
Our
Minneapolis
school-based
clinics
have
been
around
for
a
very
long
time
or
one
of
the
early
clinics
about
40
years,
and
you
can
see
in
this
picture
where
we're
located
we're
located.
As
I
said
in
six
of
our
big
high
schools
in
two
smaller
schools,
one
for
pregnant
and
parenting
students
and
another
one
that
we
just
opened
last
year
for
fair
well-stone,
downtown
students
show
you
our
overall
model.
AD
It's
helpful
to
show
that
you
know
we're
looking
at
the
whole
child,
we
partner
with
the
schools
and
we
intersect
in
trying
to
have
positive
Health
outcomes
and
educational
outcomes
for
young
people.
People
sometimes
ask
aren't
you
the
school
nurse,
no
we're
separate,
but
we
work
very
closely
together
and
I
like
how
this
slide
kind
of
shows,
what
we
do
versus
the
other
health
providers
in
the
school
buildings
as
I
started
off.
AD
Seeing
our
school-based
clinics
provide
an
integrated
model,
we
have
health,
education,
Medical,
Services,
mental
health
that
we're
open
to
all
students,
regardless
of
their
insurance
status.
We
do
require
apparent
consent
and
some
Services
young
people
can
consent
for
themselves,
which
is
called
a
minor
consent.
We
have
a
multi-disciplinary
approach
right.
Currently,
we
have
about
30
ftes
in
the
school-based
clinics,
along
with
additional
staff
that
are
residents,
students
and
some
CDC
Associates.
AD
We
have
two
and
so
we're
really
accessible
where
kids
are
at
and
very
skilled,
in
working
with
teenagers
being
very
adolescent,
focused
and
friendly
I
think
you
might
be
interested
in
what
services
we
do
or
how
much
and
I
like
this
pie,
because
it
kind
of
demonstrates
we
do
about
a
third
of
mental
health,
a
third
of
physical
health
and
a
third
of
reproductive
or
sexual
health,
and
so
we're
kind
of
pretty
well-rounded
in
the
services
we
provide.
AD
I
thought
I'd
just
give
you
a
picture
of
what
our
clients
look
like,
and
this
is
again
from
last
school
year,
but
our
our
population
really
reflects
reflects
well
who's
in
the
building.
We
work
very
hard
to
reach
all
different
communities
within
the
building
in
a
range
of
students
we
yeah,
so
every
every
our
makeup
varies
by
building
and
it
represents
the
students
enrolled.
But
overall
we
have
about
65
percent
to
70
percent
of
our
clients.
AD
Our
kids
of
color
and
I
think
on
the
side
is
I
put
our
stats
from
our
last
full
school
year.
We
saw
about
over
2
000
unique
students,
231
of
them
in
that
school
year
were
mental
health,
only
clients,
and
we
had
over.
We
had
eight
thousand
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
individual
visits
and
3128
Mental
Health
visits,
so
that's
just
kind
of
a
picture
of
our
clients
and
the
types
of
services
that
we
provided.
AD
This
is
a
a
picture
from
a
2017
to
current
last
year
and
you
can
see
we
had
a
big
dip
with
the
pandemic.
Like
all
Healthcare
Providers
schools
were
closed.
We
had
a
harder
time
accessing
our
clients,
and
so
we
had
about
a
50
drop
in
the
number
of
clients.
We
saw
the
number
of
visits
and
the
revenue
that
we
collected,
but
I
think
last
year
was
not
a
normal
year.
AD
Yet
for
us
we
had
lots
of
breaks
with
illnesses
in
covid
and
we
had
to
teachers
strike,
but
we
still
saw
our
visits
starting
to
resume
back
closer
to
normal,
and
so
we
were
very
excited
about
that
that
we're
on
our
way
back
up
after
a
couple
challenging
school
years,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
picture
of
the
insurance
status.
As
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
see
all
students,
regardless
of
insurance.
We
do
try
to
maximize
billing
Insurance
whenever
possible,
about
60
percent
or
if
clients
are
on
public
Insurance
programs.
AD
We
have
about
20
percent
that
have
no
insurance
and
about
20
in
commercial
or
private
insurance,
and
that
fluctuates
visit
to
visit.
We
also
help
young
families
and
young
people
apply
for
medical
assistance,
and
so
that
fluctuates
so
I
think.
Maybe
you
were
thinking
in
your
head
like
how
do
we
fund
these
school-based
clinics
that
have
been
around
for
40
years?
AD
We
have
kind
of
a
complex,
complicated
budget,
a
complex
budget,
not
one
funding
source.
Our
budget
right
now
is
about
a
four
million
dollars
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
do
build
third-party
Insurance
whenever
possible
and
we've
gotten
very
successful
in
that
we
also
receive
funding
dollars
from
the
health
department
that
are
Maternal,
Child
Health
block
grant
that
comes
into
the
from
the
state
and
also
our
local
public
health
Grant
is
allocated
to
the
school-based
clinic.
AD
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
probably
right
now
8
to
12
contracts
or
grants
that
are
often
competitive,
that
we've
worked
at.
We
have
an
arpa
fund
right
now
for
mental
health.
We
have
a
DHS
grant
for
mental
health.
We
have
a
health
department,
safer
sex
Grant.
We
have
a
federal
pregnancy
prevention,
Grant
and
quite
a
few
others.
So
a
lot
of
times.
Those
might
restrict
the
types
of
care
that
we
give
and
or
the
focus
is
really
designated
based
on
the
funding,
but
we
have
kind
of
a
complex
funding
mechanism.
AD
This
is
a
cliff
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
that,
but
we
right
now
we're
kind
of
on
this
funding
Cliff.
You
know
right
now
we're
hearing
that
we
have.
We
have
a
bigger
demand,
coming
back
with
schools
back
in
session
and
young
people
coming
back
to
school,
the
demand
for
mental
health
that
we'll
share
in
a
minute
and
other
care
we're
seeing
increasing.
At
the
same
time.
AD
You
know
we
see
some
of
our
grants
are
ending
in
June,
a
Workforce
Grant
we've
had
for
school
health
and
so
and
another
big
Federal
Grant,
and
so
you
know
we're
always
kind
of
looking
at
putting
in
applications
looking
at
how
to
strengthen
our
Revenue.
We're
very
grateful
this
year,
we're
in
the
mayor's
budget
with
general
fund
for
the
first
time
ever,
and
so
we're
very
grateful,
because
I
think
that
steady,
some
study
based
cell
funding
helps
us
not
have
things
come
and
go.
AH
All
right,
my
name
is
Polly
and
I'm.
The
assistant
manager
at
the
school-based
clinic
so
and
I'll
help
education
program.
We
also
have
a
team
Council
called
Teen,
Health,
empowerment,
Council.
It
is
a
peer
education.
Advocacy
group
consists
of
high
school
students.
It
is
led
by
youth
only
and
facilitated
by
our
staff.
AH
We
they
meet
bi-weekly,
to
talk
about
different
Health
topics
that
are
interested
to
them
and
also
they
also
work
with
us
to
provide
feedback
in
terms
of
what
services
that
that
we
should
make
it
available
for
them
and
what
it
needs
to
be
in
order
to
be
Team
friendly.
They
also
use
this
space
as
a
meaningful
support
for
outreach
and
education
across
all
the
high
schools.
So
they
come
together.
They
share
about
the
health
topic
interest
and
help
us
provide
with
service
so
that
we
can
better
improve
our
services
for
all
students.
AH
They
said.
Being
a
part
of
the
team.
Council
has
been
a
very
positive
experience
for
me.
I
have
really
enjoyed
being
able
to
connect
with
students
from
other
high
school
that
I
wouldn't
otherwise
have
met.
That
share
of
passion
for
health
I've
learned
a
lot
from
discussions
that
we
had
with
and
from
Ariel
Michelle
and
other
health
mentors.
We
do
have
our
one
of
our
Health
Mentor.
Here
she
tried.
She
came
all
the
way
from
the
high
school
just
to
support
us
today.
So
shout
out,
thank
you
for
coming.
J
AH
A
AH
Should
I
continue?
Okay,
all
right
in
addition
to
health
education,
we
also
do
Mental
Health
Services.
We
work
alongside
with
many
students,
as
you
guys
may
all
know,
mental
health.
It
is
clearly
declared
as
a
National
Emergency.
As
of
today
are
you
gonna?
Oh
okay.
According
to
the
American
Academy
of
pediatric,
emergency
visit
increases
by
31
for
children,
ages,
12
to
17
between
March
2020
and
October
2020..
AH
In
addition,
the
U.S
Surgeon
General
advisory
also
reported
that
in
one
in
three
high
school
students
and
one
and
two
female
high
school
students
report
feeling
of
sadness.
As
you
can
see,
this
increase
impact,
local
and
inpatient
and
outpatient
services.
Therefore,
it
is
at
our
Max
Capacity,
as
of
today
with
waiting
list
at
this
Clinic.
We
do
see
an
increase
of
referral,
as
well
as
an
increase
of
severity
and
need
of
services.
AH
AH
Our
services
is
built
on
a
framework
by
Hennepin
County,
school-based,
Mental
Health,
and
this
framework
is
recognized
nationally
and
locally
for
best
practices
and
knowledge.
This
includes
building
strong
partnership
between
school
families
and
Community
agency,
developing
a
referral
process
that
we
can
make
sure
we
see,
students
on
site
serve
them
where
they're
at
right
and
also
using
a
trauma-informed
and
culturally
sensitive
approach,
while
working
with
students
and,
most
importantly,
working
with
students,
regardless
of
their
ability
to
pay.
AH
In
addition
to
mental
health,
we
also
do
community
engagement
and
Outreach
activities.
We
call
this
group
activities
within
a
school-based
clinic.
This
consists
of
interaction
we
have
with
students,
parents
peer
education
group.
It
could
be
within
a
classroom,
presentation,
other
presentation
we
have
at
other
school
or
class
or
lunchroom
table
or
even
open
house
where
we
meet
the
parent,
the
parents
and
work
with
them
to
sign
their
student
up
here
is
a
lovely
picture
of
two
of
our
staff
Michelle.
AH
AD
We
kind
of
want
to
highlight
what's
what
we're
looking
at?
What's
on
our
Horizon,
we
kind
of
shared
just
a
big
overview
of
the
clinic,
but
right
now
we're
still
in
that
ketchup
mode.
We
have
a
lot
of
young
people
that
haven't
had
Primary,
Care
sports,
physicals
and
musicians.
AD
Besides
coveted
musicians
and
flu,
we're
also
doing
just
regular
childhood
up,
and
we
also
are
seeing
the
need
for
outreach
we're
seeing
some
grades
of
students
that
haven't
been
in
in
our
high
school.
So
they
don't
know
about
us,
so
we're
spending
more
time
in
classrooms.
Doing
different
curriculum,
I
think
Paulie
already
talked
about
the
demand
for
mental
health.
AD
We
have
you
know,
waiting
lists
already
and
trying
to
triage,
so
nobody
sits
on
a
waiting
list
that
they
get
where
they
need
to
be,
but
we
know
that
they
do
more
they're
more
successful
when
it's
accessible
right
in
the
same
space,
where
they're
going
to
school,
we
also
are
focused
on
STIs
quite
a
bit
right
now.
We
know
that
people
didn't
get
tested
like
they
usually
do.
AD
AD
We
have
a
new
state
organization
called
the
Minnesota
school-based
Health
Care
Alliance
that
we
in
Minneapolis
helped
Foster
along
with
some
of
our
other
Metro
partners,
and
so
this
state
Alliance
is
really
working
with
startup
school-based
clinics
across
the
state
and
also
sustaining
our
existing,
and
currently
we
have
some
legislature
Glacier
that
we
think
that
might
be
passed
defining
what
a
school-based
healthcare
center
is,
and
also
looking
at
trying
to
get
some
funding
for
startup
and
also
studability.
So
we're
very
excited
about
that
group.
We're
involved
with
you
know.
AD
We
know
that
having
a
preventive
approach
is
really
critical
in
being
where
young
people
are
at.
You
know
we
have
been
in
this
business
a
long
time.
You
know
over
40
years,
North
Point
also
has
been,
is
a
partner
doing
school-based
clinics
for
over
40
years,
but
I
think
we
keep
changing
and
adapting,
and
we
yeah
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
show.
In
closing
this
is
a
photo
from
the
summer
of
our
staff.
AD
We
have
a
wonderful
staff
of
people
that
are
really
committed
and
passionate
about
working
with
young
people
and,
like
I
said
we
have
so
much
to
do.
I
mean
in
catching
up
so
with
that
our
formal
presentation
in
our
slides
we've
gone
through,
but
we're
open
to
any
questions
that
you
might
have
anything
we
could
explain.
We
I
also
want
to
put
an
invitation
out.
I
know,
chair
Vito,
you
came
to
visit
us
and
that
was
wonderful
at
Henry,
High,
School
and
and
vice
chair
Payne.
AI
School
based
clinics
are
incredibly
effective
and
they
really
highlight
the
values
of
having
an
honest
relationship
with
one's
bodies.
Not
only
do
we
provide
health
care,
but
we
provide
information.
Just
so
teens
can
have
a
general
understanding
of
these
types
of
things.
We
strive
to
help
teens
become
more
comfortable
in
communicating
about
their
sex
life,
because
it's
not
something
that
should
be
looked
down
upon
and
there's
a
lot
of
social
stigmas
that
prevent
teens
from
coming
into
the
clinic
and
we're
here
as
a
safe
space
to
break
down
and.
AJ
The
Teen
Health
empowerment
council
is
amazing
for
students
like
myself,
to
be
active
in
our
community.
Every
two
weeks
me
and
other
students
from
the
Minneapolis
Public
School
System,
come
together.
We
work
on
certain
things
for
the
school-based
clinics,
our
schools
in
general
and
our
community
from
small
things
like
updating
posters
in
the
clinic
to
bigger
things
like
organizing
STI
testing
days
for
our
school
learning
and
teaching
sex
education
to
having
the
difficult
conversations
about
the
world
and
how
we
can
make
positive
change
within
it
and.
AK
That
clinic
is
really
helpful
to
me
because
it's
easy
access
and
it's
fast
when
I
need
something
and
I
don't
have
to
be
absent
from
school
to
make
an
appointment
at
my
regular
Clinic,
and
it
also
helped
offer
free
covid-19
testing,
which
was
really
helpful
to
me,
since
I
have
a
12
month
year
old
brother,
and
when
he
was
a
baby
as
well
covet
was,
it
was
a
big
pandemic.
It
helped
me
to
protect
my
family.
AL
I
think
that
the
school-based
clinic
is
very
important
to
the
health
and
safety
of
all
the
students,
based
mainly
off
of
its
confidentiality.
It
makes
a
lot
more
kids,
more
comfortable
and
confident
in
coming
to
seek
care
for
their
health.
AM
AN
For
me,
the
school-based
clinics
have
been
really
important
and
my
in
my
life
as
a
visiting,
because
it's
provided
me
with
a
lot
of
sexual
health
care
that
have
helped
boost
my
confidence.
A
lot
and
also
just
it's
been
a
way
for
me
to
be
able
to
like
take
care
of
myself
and
my
own
body.
It's
also
really
important
to
provide
teens
with
a
group
of
adults
trusted
adults
that
they
can
turn
to
in
any
crisis
or
any
occasion
that
they
might
need
any
support.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
I
was
curious
about
if
you
actually
go
to
the
slide
that
had
the
insurance
I
had
I
was
just
curious
about
billing
and
how
like
successful,
that's
been,
especially
as
we
look
at
that
fiscal
cliff
and
then
I
was
also
curious
and
I.
Don't
know
if
this
might
be
too
technical
a
question,
but
is
there
a
likeliness
that
we
would
be
able
to
meet
the
criteria
of
becoming
something
like
an
ACO
where
maybe
that
could
also
be
another
way
of
thinking
about
sustainable
funding,
Accountable
Care,
Organization.
AD
We
are
really
I,
think
proactive,
I,
think
billing
started
in
2001
and
we
contract
for
that
service
from
an
agency,
and
recently
we
did
an
RFP
and
selected
a
non-profit
that
used
to
work
for
Planned
Parenthood,
and
it
brings
us
this
expertise
that
it's
pretty
hard
as
the
only
billing
agency
within
the
city
that
we
have
and
so
I
feel
like.
We
do
a
very
good
job
of
building
everything
we
can
and
in
fact,
last
year
we
did
start
asking
people
to
pay
co-pays
for
mental
health
and
deductibles,
and
it's
an
online
they
can
donate.
AD
We
only
ask
once
if
you
have
a
problem,
your
therapist
might
tell
us,
we
won't
send
you
the
billing,
and
you
know
so:
we've
really
we've
made
eight
thousand
dollars
by
just
asking
for
folks
who
can
afford
to
pay
the
co-pays
for
mental
health.
So
we
look
really
closely
at
where
we
get
reimbursed
how
we
can
change
coding,
trying
to
get
people
off
of
Confidential
Care
onto
medical
assistance,
programs,
I.
Think
in
2001
I
wasn't
here,
but
I
have
a
check
in
my
office
like
that.
We
got
our
first
200
check.
F
AD
You
know
last
year
our
revenues
were
quite
down,
but
we
were
about
1.2
million
dollars
in
charges,
so
we're
we
really
look
very
closely.
How
can
we
get
a
better
contract?
We
are
at
a
an
essential
Community
provider
in
Minneapolis.
It's
a
state
designation
that
makes
insurance
companies
contract
with
us
and
we're
really
assertive
and
we're
getting
pretty
good
at
it.
So
we
try
to
have
updated
contracts.
We
work
on
credentialing
all
of
our
staff
and
we
use
an
outside
agency
that
has
one
person.
That's
you
know
working
with
us
very
closely.
AD
You
know
I
think.
Over
the
years
the
health
department
has
looked
at
different
Partnerships,
a
lot
of
things
school-based
clinics
do
are
not
billable
services
or
sometimes,
if
you're,
in
some
plans,
you
turn
off.
You
know
certain
people,
and
so
we've
really
had
we're
there
for
all
students,
regardless
and
so
I
think
they
have
looked
in
the
past,
and
you
know
we
in
our
state
Alliance.
AD
There
are
some
sponsoring
organizations
that
are
public
health
or,
and
then
there's
others
that
are
health
plans
like
St
Paul
is
a
federally
qualified,
Health,
Care
Center,
and
so
there's
pros
and
cons
of
different
models.
But
you
do
need
other
dollars
because
not
everything
you
Bill
can
be
reimbursed
and
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
have
that
time
to
deal
with
that
mental
health
crises
and
we're
not.
AD
AC
AD
You
so
much
for
your
gratitude,
council,
member
rainville.
We
wanted
to
bring
our
students,
but
we
didn't
know
if
they
could
take
them
out
of
class,
and
so
it
was
kind
of
a
last
minute.
Can
we
pull
a
few
people
down
and
Aria
did,
and
so
we
hope
to
make
more
professional
videos
so
I'm
glad
that
it
it
showed
and
showcased
a
few
of
our
students.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Thank.
A
You
and
I
just
want
to
say
you
know,
I
love
the
work
that
you
all
do.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
presentation.
It's
been
a
highlight
coming
to
visit
at
the
school-based
clinic,
that
is
in
my
ward,
at
Patrick
Henry,
High
School.
It's
it's
been
warm
to
hear
from
young
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
say
they
use
the
clinic
and
it's
a
safe
space
for
them,
and
they
continue
to
go
there
and
how
connected
they
are
to
the
staff
and
speaking
of
staff.
I
looked
at
that
photo.
AD
That's
all
but
I
think
they're
good
people
and
we
have
an
amazing
staff
with
a
strong
passion.
We
also
would
like
to
offer
our
annual
report
that
we
do
every
year.
So
it's
last
year's
data
and
we
put
it
in
the
record.
But
if
you
would
like
to
see
our
annual
report
with
more
details,
we
will
pass
those
out.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
presentation
and
the
work
and
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
receive
and
file
that
report
and
quickly
before
I,
adjourn
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
been
a
year.
This
is
my
last
committee
meeting
for
this
year.
I
first
want
to
thank
my
team,
Betsy
and
Maggie
I
couldn't
have
done
this.
Without
them,
they
have
truly
been
I
I,
don't
even
I've
never
lost
for
words,
but
they
they've
been
phenomenal.
A
It's
been
a
joy
and
a
pleasure
to
work
with
the
both
of
them
and
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues,
my
Council
colleagues.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
grace
for
your
support
for
your
patience
as
a
new
chair
of
a
really
big
committee.
It's
been
great
to
serve
with
you
all
in
this
capacity.
I
want
to
thank
the
clerks.
Who've
taught
me
so
much
and
answered
lots
and
lots
and
lots
of
questions.
Thank
you,
Peggy
and
thank
you.
A
Kendall
I
was
scared
when
I
thought
I
was
going
to
lose
Peggy,
but
she
told
me
she
was
going
to
stay
for
a
little
while
to
get
me
through
this.
So,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
to
clerk
Carl
who
likes
to
fight
with
me,
but
whatever
no.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
every
single
City
of
Minneapolis
staff.
Member.
That's
come
to
PHS
agenda
settings,
that's
met
with
me
and
my
staff.
That's
walked
us
through
things
10
times
over.
A
Thank
you
to
every
single
person
who
has
taken
this
committee
as
serious
as
I
have
who's
done.
The
work
I
lean
on
all
of
you
to
do
the
work
in
this
committee,
and
you
have
done
that
you
have
shown
up
for
me.
You
have
shown
up
for
our
city
with
so
much
grace
and
so
much
love
and
so
much
compassion
and
I
couldn't
have
imagined
it
and
I
appreciate
all
of
you
so
much.
Thank
you
for
making
my
job
easy
and
thank
you
for
loving
Minneapolis
like
I.
Do
it
really
shows
a
lot
of
times?
A
A
Every
single
person
that
belongs
to
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
is
meant
the
world
to
me
to
get
to
know
you
I
know
I,
don't
know
you
all,
but
next
year,
I'll
make
sure
I
I
meet
whoever
I
haven't
so
far.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
and
thank
you
Vice,
chair
Payne,
for
serving
with
me
in
this
capacity.
A
AC
Would
be
able
to
not
acknowledge
your
leadership,
your
skills
in
navigating
this?
These
are
very
serious
topics.
We
don't
always
agree,
but
you
place
the
Quorum
above
all
else
and
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
It's
a
pleasure
to
serve
with
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
rainville
and
again.
Oh
that's.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
All
see
no
business
before
us.
I'll
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.