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From YouTube: June 9, 2022 Public Works & Infrastructure Committee
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B
A
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum
with
that.
The
agenda
for
today's
meeting
is
before
us.
There
are
two
items
on
our
consent
agenda.
We
also
have
a
public
hearing
that
we'll
get
to
in
just
a
moment
and
then
a
discussion
item
on
hennepin
avenue
street
reconstruction,
which
was
carried
over
from
the
previous
committee
meeting,
so
we'll
first
go
ahead
with
the
consent
items.
A
B
A
And
that
motion
carries
and
those
consent
items
are
adopted.
I
will
also
mention
two.
I
didn't
mention
it
up
at
the
beginning,
but
council
member
vita
is
out
sick
today,
so
we
wish
her
well
and
that
she
feels
better
quickly
and
has
a
full
recovery,
so
we
will
now
go
on
to
our
public
hearing,
which
is
for
the
storm
water
management
program
and
annual
report.
E
I
want
to
provide
you
with
a
little
bit
of
history
on
the
underground
development
of
minneapolis.
First,
as
in
other
older
cities,
minneapolis
sewers
originally
carried
both
sewage
from
homes,
as
well
as
storm
water
directly
to
the
mississippi
river.
Before
the
first
wastewater
treatment
plants
were
built
in
this
area
in
the
1930s.
E
E
E
I
want
to
be
clear
that
storm
water
is
not
treated
at
a
storm
like
a
management
facility
or
a
treatment
plant.
What
falls
on
our
spills
in
our
city
streets
and
on
the
in
the
gutters
ends
up
in
our
water
bodies.
There
are
some
treatment
opportunities,
such
as
storm,
water
ponds,
green
storm,
water
infrastructure,
underground
grit
chambers
and
facilities
like
that.
But
storm
water
is
not
treated
like
an
industrial
facility.
E
E
These
are
also
known
as
npdes
permits
or
full
of
acronyms
in
stormwater
because
of
the
unique
relationship
between
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
the
minneapolis
park
and
recreation
board.
The
two
are
co-permitees
in
the
stormwater
permit
and
are
required
to
abide
by
the
same
regulations
and
requirements.
E
E
E
E
E
The
city
stormwater
management
work
is
guided
by
two
important
documents.
The
first
is
our
water
resources
management
plan.
This
document
is
completed
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
process,
which
most
recently
was
the
minneapolis
2040
plan.
It
speaks
to
the
city's
goals
and
aspirations
around
our
system,
management
and
planning.
E
The
second
document
is
our
stormwater
management
program
document
that
we
call
our
swamp.
This
is
a
regulatory
document.
It
outlines
the
specific
things
that
the
city
must
do
to
stay
in
compliance
with
our
clean
water
act.
Permit
not
being
in
compliance
with
the
requirements
of
our
swamp
can
leave
the
city
open
to
enforcement
action
from
the
epa
and
the
state
pollution
control
agency.
E
E
E
E
E
The
other
area
where
we've
seen
success
is
with
our
combined
sewer
system.
I
mentioned
earlier
that
minneapolis
began
separating
our
storm
water
and
sanitary
sewer
systems
back
in
the
1930s
over
time.
We've
seen
fewer
and
fewer
events
where
we've
released
sewage
into
the
river
doing
due
to
storm
events.
E
We
have
a
significant
litter
problem
in
lake
hiawatha.
The
chart
on
this
slide
shows
the
litter
scores
tallied
by
the
minneapolis
park
and
recreation
board
during
their
regular
summer
sampling
events.
Lake
hiawatha
is
the
line
in
yellow.
You
can
see
that
there's
a
significant
problem
in
this
lake
that
is
not
being
seen
elsewhere
in
minneapolis.
E
E
Are
there
commercial
businesses
that
aren't
emptying
their
trash
cans?
Are
there
construction
sites
or
apartment
complexes
that
aren't
securing
their
dumpsters?
Is
there
a
heavier
amount
of
litter
around
major
bus
routes?
Knowing
this
information
will
then
guide
what
we
do
next,
besides
source
identification?
Another
thing
that
we're
working
on
is
litter
characterization.
E
E
E
We
are
recommending
changes
to
the
public
education
and
outreach
public
participation
and
engagement,
illicit
discharge,
detection
and
elimination,
construction
site,
stormwater,
runoff
controls
and
pollution
prevention
and
good
housekeeping
for
municipal
operations.
Section
of
our
swamp
to
better
address
this
issue.
E
E
A
Thank
you,
mister.
We
really
appreciate
the
presentation
I'll
quickly
see
if
any
committee
members
have
questions
for
missed
out,
not
seeing
any
really
again.
Thank
you
really
appreciate
it.
We'll
now
move
to
opening
the
public
hearing,
so
I
see
six
speakers
signed
up
today
and
then,
if
you're
not
signed
up
yet
you
can
certainly
talk
to
our
clerks
over
here
if
you're
interested
in
speaking
on
this
item-
and
we
also
have
a
timer
set
up
as
well
for
folks.
A
So
if
you
can
limit
your
comments,
please
to
three
minutes
that
would
be
appreciated
and
our
clerks
will
help
us
with
that.
So
our
first
speaker
signed
up
is
sheila.
Wegman
welcome,
sheila.
F
F
We
are
especially
concerned
about
the
storm
water
impacts,
resulting
in
the
continual
presence
of
trash
plastic
micro,
plastics,
hazardous
materials,
oil,
oil,
auto
fluids,
fertilizers,
syringes
and
waste
of
all
sorts
in
the
lake
has
been
documented
by
through
a
number
of
efforts,
including
friends
of
lake
hiawatha,
as
well
by
the
city,
and
we
have
had
a
chance
to
review
the
proposed
changes
to
the
stormwater
management
program
and
we
do
support
the
addition
of
litter
as
a
as
a
pollutant.
F
Secondly,
we
support
the
proposed
changes
to
the
illicit
discharge
and
pollutant
prevention
programs
that
will
that
will
help
decrease
the
litter
that
is
discharged
through
the
stormwater
system.
As
well
as
other
pollutants
that
are
of
concern-
and
lastly,
we
were
able
to
see
the
the
response
to
comments
and
we
appreciate
them-
and
there
is
a
discussion
in
the
response
to
comments
of
structural
best
management
practices
for
pollution
control,
pollutant
control
in
lake
hiawatha.
F
We
appreciate
that
and-
and
that
is
really
what
the
the
main
emphasis
of
the
stormwater
management
program
is-
the
use
of
best
management
practices.
Some
are
structural,
meaning
they're
they're
ponds,
and
it
could
be
any
chambers
and
any
sort
of
hard
hard
treatment
that
that
can
be
used
for
storm
water,
as
well
as
the
the
softer
ones
called
non-structural,
which
are
the
education
and
outreach,
and
a
number
of
others
like
that.
F
So
those
are
the
things
we
support,
but
we
also
recommend
that
the
stormwater
management
program
include
a
written
requirement
for
the
assessment,
installation
and
maintenance
of
structural
best
management
practices
within
the
storm
sewer
system
and
at
the
43rd
street,
pipe
that
discharges
into
lake
hiawatha
and
also
that
this
be
completed
and
operating
within
a
spec
specified
period
of
time
to
ensure
that
this
best
management
practice
is
implemented.
So
trash
and
and
similar
ways
are
not
tolerated
in
lakes
across
the
the
country.
F
We've
done
some
research
with
the
us
epa
and
with
in
other
cities
and
and
states,
and
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
really
appreciate
that
and
and
for
folks,
if,
when
you
hear
that
feel
free
to
wrap
up
your
sentence
too,
it's
not
like
you
gotta
drop
right
there,
but
we
really
appreciate
the
comments.
Thank
you
sheila.
Next
we
have
sean
connady,
welcome
sean.
G
Hello,
council
members,
thanks
for
having
us
and
thank
you
for
a
great
presentation
and,
and
we
so
value
that
that
trash
is
being
considered
as
a
pollutant.
It's
awesome,
so
sean
connery
award,
12,
I'm
chair
of
friends
of
lake
hiawatha
and
so
lake
hiawatha
is
home
to
255
species
of
animals,
including
endangered
and
vulnerable
species,
and
a
critical
stop
on
the
mississippi
river
flyway.
G
G
We
have
also
learned
that
no
amount
of
volunteer
labor
can
remove
all
the
plastic
accumulating
on
the
shore
in
the
soil,
in
the
water
at
lake
hiawatha,
and
for
eight
years
we
have
asked
for
comprehensive
storm
water
treatment
and
labor
to
remove
the
plastic
trash
from
lake
hiawatha
one
piece
at
a
time
and
we're
ten
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
pounds
is
our
total.
Currently
trash
is
not
considered
a
pollutant
in
the
state
of
minnesota.
G
This
results
in
a
lack
of
enforcement
that
has
meant
that
unaddressed
plastic
trash
accumulating
for
decades
has
now
broken
down
into
microplastics.
Our
agencies
have
no
obligation
to
address
this
problem.
That
is
why
we
celebrate
and
commend
city
staff
for
the
meaningful
step
that
has
been
taken
to
acknowledge
that
trash
is
indeed
a
pollutant
of
concern
in
review
of
the
updated
swmp.
G
In
order
to
address
the
phosphorus
impairment
of
lake
hiawatha,
we
also
request
site-specific
phosphorus
monitoring
for
discharges
originating
from
golf
course
pumping
and
the
43rd
street
pipe
golf
course
pumping
is
arguably
part
of
the
minneapolis
storm
water
conveyance
system.
Total
phosphorus
loads
discharged
into
lake
kayatha
from
pumping
are
increasing.
G
A
H
My
name
is
carol
dungan,
I
am
a
resident
of
ward
12..
I
am
a
member
of
the
cena
neighborhood
association
board
and
I'm
also
volunteer
with
friends
of
lake
hiawatha.
H
H
They
came
out
with
rashes
and
hives
due
to
the
pollutants
in
in
the
lake.
I've
recently
begun
volunteering
with
friends
of
lake
hiawatha,
and
I
can
attest
everything
that
sean
and
sheila
say
they
are
the
experts
and
I'm
not
gonna.
You
know
try
and
add
anything
into
that,
except
that
I
do
find
it
extremely
encouraging
that
trash
is
now
going
to
be
considered
a
pollutant
of
concern.
H
The
reason
for
this
is
that
when
I
volunteer
with
the
the
cleanups
on
saturday
mornings,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
young
people
who
came
and
helped
us
with
the
cleanup
and
watching
them
dig
down
into
the
dirt
and
find
more
plastic
more
hypodermic
needles,
more
used
condoms,
more
tampon
applicators
is
heartbreaking.
H
H
H
A
I
Thank
you.
My
name
is
kristin
olsen
and
I
live
on
29th
avenue,
south
in
ward,
12,
a
block
from
lake
hiawatha,
and
I'm
here
today
as
a
minneapolis
resident
over
the
past
several
years.
I
have
helped
pick
up
trash
at
the
lake,
including,
as
carol
just
mentioned:
tampon
applicators
syringes,
condoms,
oven,
cleaner
straws,
wrappers
bottles,
rusted,
pop
cans
and
plastic
of
every
color
shape
and
size.
I
I
now
feel
sorrow
and
outraged
too,
especially
because
the
problem
will
worsen
in
the
future,
as
climate
change
brings
more
frequent,
rainstorms
I'm
concerned
about
the
deterioration
of
lake
hiawatha,
which
I
see
as
the
centerpiece
of
our
neighborhood.
If
nothing
is
done,
thank
you.
So
much
for
proposing
to
add
litter
to
the
as
a
component
of
the
storm
launch.
I
We
need
a
specific
timetable
and
enforcement.
Our
neighborhood
and
all
its
residents,
including
the
people
and
the
wildlife
that
depend
on
the
lake,
deserve
clean
water
words
matter,
but
words
alone
won't
clean
up
the
lake.
Please
add
structural
best
management
practices,
an
aggressive
timetable
and
enforcement
to
clean
up
our
lakes.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
kristen.
We
appreciate
you
showing
up
for
our
public
hearing
today.
Next
we
have
ed
feline,
welcome
ed.
J
Thank
you.
Please
stop
using
us
as
your
dumping
ground.
You
are
poisoning
us
chemicals
that
you
put
on
your
lawns
in
lyndon.
Hills,
come
down,
minnehaha,
creek
and
end
up
in
lake
hiawatha
come
and
see
your
blue
green
foam
that
washes
to
the
shore,
but
don't
let
your
dogs
drink
it,
it
could
be
lethal
and
it
is
not
safe
for
children
to
swim
in
the
lake.
My
mother
taught
me
to
swim
in
lake
hiawatha
theodore
worth
designed
lake
hiawatha
and
park
in
1924.
J
He
dredged
the
lake
in
1929
to
a
depth
of
33
feet.
So
kids
from
the
proletarian
part
of
town
would
have
some
place
to
go
swimming
in
the
summer,
but
the
city
started
sanding
the
streets
in
winter
and
washing
that
sand
down
storm
sewers
from
lake
street
to
43rd
street
from
chicago
avenue,
to
27th
avenue
into
lake
hiawatha,
and
now
it's
hard
to
find
anywhere
on
the
lake.
That's
12
feet
deep,
it's
so
shallow
aquatic
life
cannot
survive
the
winter.
J
Lowering
the
lake
level
by
4.5
to
5
feet
would
increase
storm
water
storage
in
lake
hiawatha
by
80
million
gallons,
and
it
would
drain
the
water
table
by
five
feet.
Draining
five
feet
of
saturated
peat.
Soil
around
lake
hiawatha
will
help
drain
saturated
peat,
soil
around
lake
nacomas
and
salomon
park,
because
peat
soil
connecting
those
areas
is
so
porous
and
spongy
that,
like
a
wick,
it
can
carry
con
water
uphill
and
then,
when
it
rains,
the
water
has
nowhere
to
go.
The
rain
from
above
meets
the
water
below.
A
A
So
going
once
going
twice
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Everyone
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing,
and
I
will
see
if
any
of
my
colleagues
have
any
questions
or
comments
on
this
item
before
us,
not
seeing
any.
I
did
through
the
clerk
distribute
a
substitute
resolution
on
this
item,
so
the
original
resolution
was
adopting
both
the
phase,
one
permit
the
actual
stormwater
management
program
and
the
annual
report
for
activities.
A
Clearly,
we've
heard
a
lot
of
great
testimony
today
around
concerns
with,
in
particular,
lake
hiawatha
and
all
the
pollution
running
into
it,
and
so
I've
talked
with
staff
about
this
program
and
if
we
can
take
some
more
time
to
look
at
bmps
and
other
potential
amendments
to
this
program,
to
strengthen
it
to
address
the
concerns
around
lake
hiawatha
and
worked
with
staff
on
this
resolution.
So
this
will
move
the
annual
report
which
is
required
to
the
minnesota
pollution
control
agency.
A
A
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
move
that
substitute
for
the
resolution
on
number
one,
and
I
will
see
if
the
clerks
want
to
correct
me
on
anything
with
that
motion.
But
I
think
that
motion
should
be
good.
So
I
will
see
if
my
colleagues
have
any
comments
or
questions
on
that
motion.
A
B
A
So
that
substitute
passes
so
then
we're
left
with
the
underlying
passage
of
this
now
substituted
resolution
and
the
authorizing
public
works
to
submit
that
annual
report
to
the
pca
for
review
and
approval.
So
I
will
see
if
there's
any
additional
comments
or
questions
on
that,
not
seeing
any
so
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll
council.
A
A
Motion
carries
and
again
I
really
want
to
thank
everyone
who
showed
up
to
speak
today
on
this
and
looking
forward
to
continued
discussion
and
really
appreciate
our
staff
as
well,
and
specifically,
the
mention
of
lake
hiawatha
and
the
issues
going
on
there.
Certainly,
it
is
a
broad
reaching
concern
for
folks,
not
just
in
ward
12,
ward
11
as
well
and
the
south
side,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
have
a
clean,
healthy
lake
and
also
manage
our
storm
stormwater
effectively.
A
C
So,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
think
that,
because
this
item
is
at
this
point,
essentially
unchanged
from
when
it
was
before
committee
last
time,
I
will
introduce
folks
who
can
answer
questions
about
the
items
before
and
if
it's
your
pleasure,
certainly
they
can
come
up
to
the
podium
at
any
time.
But
we
have
with
us
today
both
jennifer
hager,
director
of
transportation
and
planning
and
programming
and
brian
dodds
who's.
The
deputy
director,
one
of
two
and
also
our
city
engineer
with
us
today.
A
Perfect,
thank
you
director.
We
really
appreciate
that
and
appreciate
miss
hager
and
mr
duds
for
being
here
today
as
well
for
the
committee
to
be
available,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
clear
this
with
our
clerk
here.
I
know
there's
some
different
motions,
so
I'm
thinking
what
I'll
do
is.
We've
got
items
four
and
then
one
through
five
listed.
So
I
was
thinking
I
would
take
up
each
of
these
individually
and
just
want
to
make
sure
I
don't
need
to
do
any
additional
motions
to
do
that
and
walk
through.
A
If
we
don't
have
any
objections
from
committee
members,
so
I'm
seeing
head
nods
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
item.
One
item
number
one
approving
the
layout
for
hennepin
avenue,
south
street
reconstruction
project
between
douglas
avenue
and
west
lake
street,
and
I
will
see
if
any
colleagues
have
any
motions
on
that
council
member
chuck
thai.
K
Thank
you,
chair
johnson,
in
front
of
committee
members
today
and
with
our
attorneys,
as
well
as
at
the
side
over.
There
are
copies
of
an
amendment
to
item
4.1
approving
the
layout
for
the
hennepin
avenue
south
street
reconstruction
project
between
douglas
avenue
and
west
lake
street.
K
As
you'll
remember
in
our
last
public
works
and
infrastructure
committee
meeting,
we
brought
forward
a
substitute
motion
and
I
know
we're
going
to
get
to
that
later,
but
over
the
the
week
following
following
committee
and
before
we
got
to
council,
you
know,
we've
we've
received
actually
a
lot
of
updated
information
from
our
city
attorney's
office
and
have
been
able
to
make
some
changes
to
to
make
sure
that
we
are
within
the
scope
of
council
authority,
and
so
after
you
know,
working
closely
with
the
city
attorney's
office,
our
clerks
and
our
public
works
leadership
team
we're
bringing
forward
a
couple
of
different
items.
K
The
amendment
is
to
the
attachment
labeled,
the
hennepin
avenue
south
reconstruction
project
layout
and
it's
titled,
the
hennepin
south
reconstruction
lake
street
to
douglas
avenue,
recommended
design
layout
from
5
22
2022,
and
what
we're
doing
is
providing
that
all
areas,
components,
throwaways
and
zones
designated
as
transit
lane
and
reflected
in
red,
which
you
can
see
on
the
map,
should
be
designated
as
transit,
lane
no
parking
and
to
provide
that
no
parking
is
authorized
in
those
areas:
components,
throwaways
and
or
zones
throughout
the
reconstructed
corridor,
upon
project
completion
and
to
further
direct
staff
in
the
public
works
department
to
amend
all
underlying
plan
documents,
including
the
complete
streets
checklist
to
effectuate.
K
This
change
in
policy
for
the
hennepin
avenue
south
corridor.
This
is
essentially
doing
you
know
the
same
thing
that
we
were
intending
to
do
with
the
staff
direction,
but
it
is
more
clear
legislation
and
it
is
more
clear
within
the
scope
of
authority
of
the
city
and
and
this
council.
D
K
Good
question
we
did
play
around
with
the
idea
of
drawing
on
the
map
and
submitting
it
as
an
amendment
but
decided
that
that
was
not
the
right
call
and
so,
like
really
think
of
the
so
on
the
map,
which
is
the
physical
document
that
we
we
are
approving.
K
It
is
designating
that
transit
lane,
as
as
a
a
dedicated
transit
lane
right
a
transit
lane
where
there
is
not
parking
and
it
you
know
like
the
map
itself,
is
it's
the
the
physical
document
that
has
a
bunch
of
supporting
documents
that
you
know,
inform
it
and
so
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
supporting
items
line
up
with
that
with
that
change.
D
Thank
you.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
direct
this
to
you
or
one
of
the
attorneys,
I'm
just
curious
to
know
you
know
I'm
a
new
council
member,
I'm
just
wondering
is
this
typical?
Do
we
have
we
do
as
a
council
as
a
body
have
we
changed
labels
and
layout
like
or
I
guess,
labels
that
way
and
in
the
past
or
for
other
projects,
or
is
this
something
that
typically
happens
or
is
this
new.
A
I
will
ask
our
city
attorney
to
weigh
in
on
that,
and
maybe
just
add
around
our
authority
as
well
as
this
within
the
authority.
I
think,
is
also,
if
part
of
the
question
or
is
at
least
a
fair
question,
to
ask.
L
Sure,
chair
johnson,
councilmember
koski
I'd
be
happy
to
to
discuss,
particularly
as
it
raised
to
the
authority
here,
the
history
as
as
whether
or
not
in
in
past
practices,
the
council
has
amended
legends
or
maps
or
labels.
I
cannot
speak
to
that.
I
would
defer
to
our
public
works
staff.
To
answer
that
question,
I
do
believe
that
we
are
circling
back
to
the
conversation
we
had.
L
You
know
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
regarding
some
of
these
lane
designations
and
the
delegation
of
authority
to
the
director
of
public
works
through
a
couple
of
prior
council
actions.
I'll
also
note
in
and
first
of
all,
I
want
to
be
clear.
L
The
council,
of
course,
has
the
authority
to
legislate
within
the
city
of
minneapolis.
Okay.
The
charter
has
given
you
that
that
authority,
the
issue
is,
is
simply
with
these
previous
council
actions
that
have
given
that
power
to
the
director
of
public
works,
and
so
the
options
you
have
available
are
are
amending
previous
actions
revising
previous
delegations
or
even
particularly
as
we
we
talk
about
parking
regulations
and
restrictions.
L
You
do
have
the
authority
via
ordnance
and
478.90
is
one
example
in
which
you
can
regulate
the
manner
and
methods
of
parking.
That
being
said,
that
was,
would
require
an
ordinance.
It
would
have
to
be
uniformly
applicable
across
the
city,
and
it
would
have
to
be
a
separate
action,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
A
And
councilmember
koskinen,
I
think
I'll
call
on
council
member
chuck
thai
after
that,
because
I
think
that
I'm
sure
you've
had
conversations
with
the
city
attorney's
office
around
this
as
well.
D
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarity
here,
because
there
were
base
kind
of
two
questions.
One
we'd
have
to
kind
of
public
works
would
have
to
answer.
If
council,
adding
information
or
directing
information
on
a
legend
or
label,
maybe
public
works
can
help
us
answer
that.
But
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
that
this
is
still
kind
of
crossing
the
line
of
our
authority
or
or
was
that
not?
Is
that
not
what
I'm
hearing.
L
Council,
member
johnson
or
chair
johnson
councilmember
koski,
I
believe
you
know
to
clarify
you
absolutely
have
the
authority
and
the
power
right.
It's
just
the
matter
of
how
you
get
to
that
end,
and
I
believe
that,
with
the
action
that
you
have
previously
taken,
the
1995
delegation,
as
well
as
the
city
ordinance
in
which
you
entrust
the
management
and
operation
and
control
of
the
right-of-way
to
the
director
of
public
works,
you
would
need
to
take
action
to
revise
or
amend
those
previous
delegations.
L
If
you
wanted
to
proceed
with
a
directive
like
this,
the
alternative
which
which
you
may
not
need
to
take
those
you
may
not
need
to
rescind
or
amend
those
previous
actions
would
be
something
like
the
parking,
ordinance
478.90
and
you
could
explore
potentially
adding
additional
conditions
with
respect
to
the
parking
ordinance.
I
will
state,
though,
that
you
know
an
ordinance
requires
uniform
applicability
across
the
city
and
it
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
narrowly
tailored
to
this
specific
program.
L
But
that
is
one
option
as
you,
you
know,
decide
how
how
to
move
forward.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
murkowski,
and
I
know
pogba's
interested
in
responding,
maybe
on
that
piece
about
the
history,
but
I
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
councilmember
chuck
thai
just
speak
to
any
interactions
with
the
city
attorney's
office,
just
kind
of
in
response.
Yeah.
K
For
sure
dynamic,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
I
think.
Thank
you,
george
johnson,
councilmember
koski.
This
is
a
really
good
line
of
questions,
and
I
think
one
that
we've
spent
the
last
few
weeks
really
digging
in
on
and
getting
really
clear
about
our
our
lanes
and
our
our
way
of
approaching
right.
So
sure
you
know
it's
it's
like
both
the
staff
direction
and
this
amendment.
All
of
these
things
are
different
ways
and
routes
of
getting
to
an
outcome
right.
K
When
you
ask
the
question
of
well,
why
are
we
amending
a
map
legend?
Is
this
normal
as
this
does
this
happen?
Previously
it
it's
really
about
trying
to
get
to
ensuring
that
the
e-line
is
able
to
run,
and
this
was
the
way
for
us
to
get
there
so
a
couple
of
pieces
to
to
speak
to
that
just
a
little
bit
one.
I
want
to
speak
to
the
1995
resolution
that
mr
wilcox
was
referencing
earlier.
K
That
resolution
certainly
does
designate
power
to
the
public
works
director
and
to
the
city
attorney
to
make
decisions
not
on
operations,
but
on
a
list
of
things
that
it
lists
right.
It
says
bus
stops
and
stop
signs
a
list
of
different
things
that
that
we
have
delegated
authority
to
the
public
works
director
and
to
the
city
engineer.
K
The
last
sentence
of
that
exact
resolution
actually
reads:
if
any
recommended
action
by
the
director
of
transportation
is
not
approved
by
the
council.
Member
of
the
affected
ward,
it
shall
be
placed
as
a
matter
of
review
by
the
transportation
and
public
works
committee,
and
then
it's
there's
a
letter
that
actually
came
attached
with
it.
That
was
that
was
sent
to
the
the
the
chair
of
the
transportation
public
works
committee
at
that
time
signed
by
the
public
works
director
at
that
time.
K
Final
review
and
authority
in
this
body
is
always
taken
by
the
council,
so
whether
whether
we
you
know
whether
we
want
to
you
know,
go
back
and
forth
on
on
designation
of
power
and
council
authority,
the
the
the
resolution
that's
being
referenced
over
and
over
again
right
as
the
trump
card
for
you
don't
get
to
make
this
decision.
K
So
that's,
I
think
one
important
piece
of
this
and
then
second,
is
you
know
both
this
amendment
and
all
actions
that
are
going
to
be
brought
in
front
of
you
today
that
that
came
from
my
office
and
and
that
came
from
me-
have
actually
been
reviewed
by
our
deputy
city
attorney
and
have
been
approved
by
our
deputy
city
attorney
as
things
that
are
within
the
scope
of
power
that
that
the
council
has.
So
you
know,
I,
I
think
it's
good
that
we're
having
this
discussion
on
the
public
record.
K
L
Chair
johnson
councilmember,
chuck
ty,
I
appreciate
just
a
quick
opportunity
to
respond
council
member.
You
reference
the
1995
resolution
you're
spot
on.
Obviously
there
is
the
provision
when
the
city
implemented
the
special
law
that
it
received
from
the
legislature
that
the
affected
council,
member
of
the
ward,
needs
to
be
provided
notice,
and
then,
if
that
council
member
disagrees
with
the
action
it
has
to
be
placed
on
the
agenda.
However,
that's
just
one
of
the
delegations
we
reference
minneapolis
code.
L
451.30
is
another
source
where
you've
delegated
authority
to
the
director
of
public
works
with
respect
to
the
operate
quote:
operation,
maintenance
and
control
over
city,
owned
infrastructure
and
city
managed
public
rights
voya.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
where,
where
we're
at
here
is
there?
Are
these
multiple
sources
of
delegation
of
power?
But
once
again
these
aren't
these
aren't
delegations
that
you're,
you
know
you
have
to
just
throw
your
hands
up.
L
You,
of
course,
can
take
action
to
to
modify
or
amend
previous
delegations
and
and
circling
back
to
this,
this
amendment
before
us,
if
the
if
the
intent
if
the
council
intent
is
to
ultimately,
you
know,
create
an
enforcement
mechanism
where
a
penalty
could
be
assessed
for
parking
in
that
area,
a
resolution
is
going
to
be
an
ineffective
way
of
doing
that.
Only
an
ordinance
can
assess
a
violation,
a
penalty
for
violation.
L
So
you
know
if
we
think
about
citations
that
ultimately
go
into
prosecution
as
petty
misdemeanors
and
in
court
or
something
along
those
lines.
That
requires
an
ordinance
and
it
requires
a
penalty
to
be
prescribed.
So
so
this
amendment
is,
is
going
to
be
ineffective.
L
If
that's,
if
that's
the
intent
and
then
furthermore,
we
just
go
back
kind
of
to
that
distinction
between
reviewing
the
proposed
action
of
public
works
versus
the
ability
to
change
or
modify
the
plan,
and
I
think
I
think
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
distinction
there.
A
Thank
you,
mr
wilcox.
I
don't
know
councilman
if
you
have
anything.
K
K
I
mean
I,
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
I
I'll
just
say
like
these
actions
have
been
vetted
and
approved
by
our
deputy
city
attorney,
and
so
I
don't
I
don't
quite
understand.
You
know
why
we're
ending
up
in
a
back
and
forth
on
council
authority
again
and,
like
you
know
sure,
if,
if
what
you're
reading
is,
is
like
that,
in
the
same
way
that
you're
telling
me
that
you
know
the
resolution
gives
council
the
authority
to
review,
but
perhaps
it
doesn't
say,
review
and
amend
or
change.
K
The
intent
of
that
resolution
is
actually
explained
very
explicitly
by
the
the
then
director
of
public
works,
and
so
like
that's,
I
think
one
piece
of
it
in
the
same
way
that,
like
you
know
you
can
designate
power
to
someone
else.
It
does
not
mean
that
it
is
it
is
you
have
the
absence
of
it
right
and
so
that
type
of
logic
can
actually
be
applied.
Both
ways
in
and
the
end
result
of
both
of
those
is
that
this
amendment
is
fully
within
the
the
authority
that
this
body
has.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
chuck
thai
and
I
know
there
was
a
another
part
of
councilman
murkowski's
question
around.
Has
the
council
made
modifications
before
amendments
to
the
layout,
so
director
anderson,
kelleher.
C
So,
mr
chair
and
councilmember
koski,
and
thank
you
for
the
question,
and
I
I
first
want
to
start
by
saying
what
is
this
plan
that
you
are
being
asked
a
plan
layout
a
plan
layout
is
a
30
layout
of
a
project.
You
are
asked
to
approve
the
curb
line
and
basic
roadway
geometry.
C
You
are
not
being
asked
to
approve
operations
of
the
roadway
and
to
that
point
I
think
that
is
why-
and
I've
been
here
three
months,
but
we
hope
we've
talked
to
our
staff
and
we
have
people
who
have
been
here
much
much
longer
about
50
years
of
combined
experience
in
minneapolis
public
works.
They
can
never
remember
a
layout
being
amended
in
this
way.
A
M
Thank
you,
chair
johnson
yeah,
I
just
want
to
say,
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
games
here,
and
this
should
be
a
pretty
straightforward
question.
There
are
a
number
of
people
on
this
council
that
want
to
see
24,
7
bus
lanes
and
the
legality
of
council's
authority
seems
to
be
kind
of
this
ball.
That's
tossed
in
the
air.
That's
kind
of
getting
us
away
from
the
core
question
and
the
core
question
is:
do
we,
as
council,
have
the
authority
to
block
parking
to
create
a
right-of-way
for
a
dedicated
transit
lane?
M
The
answer
to
that
seems
to
be
clearly
yes,
so
I'd
like
to
frankly
call
the
question
on
on
this
amendment
by
council
member
chuck
thai.
A
A
And
while
we
wait
for
her,
I
guess
I'll
go
ahead
and
speak
on
this
item.
I
support
this
amendment
today.
I
understand
the
legal
concerns
raised
and
also
understand
that
councilman
I
talked
to
our
deputy
city
attorney
in
working
on
this.
A
I
also
think,
regardless
of
that,
this
amendment
does
express
intention
by
the
council
whether
it
is
at
the
end
of
the
day
legally
binding,
and
we
can
absolutely
unquestionably
restrict
parking
on
this
particular
stretch
through
this
action
or
not,
and
I
want
to
speak
to
why
I
support
this
because
I
actually
think
the
dynamic
lanes
are
a
good
concept,
but
all
the
evidence
I
have
seen
suggest
we
are
going
to
have
serious,
serious
problems
with
it.
The
data
that
public
works
staff
has
that
they
presented
during
my
hennepin
technical
briefing
was
well.
It
was
limited.
A
It
was
from
hennepin
avenue
from
last
year
just
during
the
evening
and
essentially
revealed
that
every
single
day
they
are
having
to
issue
citations
where
people
are
illegally
parking
in
the
dynamic
lanes
that
exist
today
on
hennepin
avenue
and
by
the
way,
that's
citations,
not
toes,
so
it's
not
actually
clearing
the
problem
from
the
street.
It
is
just
ticketing
people
and
leaving
obstructions
still
in
the
right-of-way
that
are
impacting
bus
operations.
A
On
top
of
that,
because
of
citations,
it's
assuredly
underrepresenting
the
problem,
because
there
are
plenty
of
times
where
people
can
park
there
and
they,
frankly,
don't
get
cited,
and
the
concern
I
have
is
that
we're
basically
well
it's
well
intentioned.
I
believe
we
are
going
to
end
up
with
stop
and
go
traffic,
and
all
it's
going
to
take
is
one
person
parking
in
that
lane
out
of
a
couple
hundred
spots
for
that
to
impact
operations
and
then
have
buses
waiting,
trying
to
merge
back
in
people
breaking.
A
Ultimately,
we've
all
seen
this
back
up
when
we're
on
highways
and
all
of
a
sudden
traffic
comes
to
a
standstill.
Yet
there
are
no
accidents.
There
seems
to
be
no
issue.
It
only
takes
a
slight
change
in
dynamics,
especially
when
you
get
close
to
capacity
when
you're
at
higher
utilization
levels
for
there
to
be
a
pretty
significant
impact
operation.
So
I
see
how
it
only
takes
one
person.
We
know
that
people
are
doing
this
every
single
day,
violating
these
dynamic
lanes
and
suddenly
you're
going
to
have
a
big
traffic
mess.
A
Traffic's
going
to
be
snarled,
you're
going
to
have
customers
out
there
getting
tickets
for
these
small
businesses,
you're
going
to
have
bus
operations,
impacted
you're,
going
to
have
the
customers
mad
at
the
small
business
owners,
you're
going
to
have
the
traffic
backing
up
and
it's
going
to
be
a
mess,
and
we
don't
really
have
any
examples
of
us
doing
this
successfully.
Now,
of
course,
the
idea
is
well
within
a
couple
years
within
several
years,
we'll
figure
it
out,
but
I
would
say
that
puts
things
backwards.
A
We
really
need
to
have
some
demonstration
of
success
before
we.
Ultimately,
as
a
council
say,
we
are
done
with
this
issue
and
forever
are
going
to
have
no
more
control
over
this.
I
really
want
the
council
to
be
engaged
on
this.
I
think
if
we
can
have
success
elsewhere
and
by
the
way,
as
I'm
saying
this,
this
isn't
just
a
public
works
issue
right.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
also
a
regulatory
services.
This
is
a
minneapolis
police
department.
This
is
a
metro,
transit
and
their
enforcement
arms.
A
So
it's
it's
a
complex
issue
around
enforcement,
but
it
hasn't
been
done
really
successfully
yet
and
the
data
that
we
have
shows
that
it.
It
is
a
problem
and
there's
no
reason
to
believe
that
it
won't
be
a
problem
here
and
meanwhile,
I
also
have
concerns
about
expectations
being
said:
everyone
seems
to
have
different
understandings
of
what
these
dynamic
lanes
are.
I've
heard
business
owners
say:
oh,
it's
just
a
couple
hours
in
the
morning
couple
hours
in
the
afternoon,
but
the
reality
is,
and
public
works
is
very
transparent
about
this.
A
It's
not
determined
yet
and
in
my
hennepin
avenue
technical
briefing,
my
understanding
was.
If
there
are
traffic
problems,
they
could
immediately
take
away
these
dynamic
lanes,
and
so
it's
even
how
long
they
would
be
there
and
by
the
way
we
understand
the
intention
is
right
that
we're
going
to
get
to
eventually
having
all-day
bus
lanes
on
hennepin.
A
So
I
appreciate
the
intentions,
but
I
I
don't
think
we're
ready
to
move
forward
with
dynamic
lanes
and
at
a
minimum.
I
want
the
council
to
weigh
in
on
what
is
our
intention
here
that
we
want
to
convey
to
staff
regardless
of
this
question
of
authority.
What
would
the
council's
preference
be
on
this?
What
do
we
think
is
the
right
situation
given
how
complex
this
is.
A
I
will
also
say
in
full
transparency,
I'm
open
to
something
in
between
the
idea
of
24
7
and
this
dynamic
lane
as
proposed,
but
given
the
options
that
we
have
today,
I
think
this
makes
sense
to
move
forward
now
saying
all
of
that.
I
also
want
to
take
a
step
back
here,
because
what
is
before
us
is
a
layout
approval
for
a
really
really
really
big
road
reconstruction.
That's
a
huge
project.
N
Thank
you,
chair
johnson.
I
just
had
a
couple
clarifying
questions,
some
of
which
kind
of
builds
upon
what
you've
already
shared
they're,
mostly
directed
at
our
city,
attorneys.
So
getting
back
at
this
dynamic
of
I
I
want
to
be
quite
frank.
The
biggest
contention
point
is
you
know,
making
sure
that
24
7
bus
lanes
are
included
in
this
layout
starting
on
day
one,
and
that
was
part
of
the
original
concept
that
was
brought
by
our
amazing
staff
to
council.
N
It
is
the
proposal
with
those
24
7
bus
lanes,
in
which,
as
you
noted,
our
staff
went
out
and
engaged
thousands
of
our
residents
around
and
there's
tons
of
public
support.
There's
a
public
mandate
in
moving
us
or
having
the
city
move
forward
with
this
particular
and
crucial
component
of
this
layout.
So
from
my
understanding,
councilmember
chuck
thai's
amendment
that
she's
brought
forward
is
basically
guided
in
this.
This
intention
to
ensure
that
24
7
bus
lanes
are
included
on
day
one
based
off
of
what
you
shared.
N
It's
still
kind
of
murky
and
thank
you,
councilmember
johnson,
for
crystallizing
of
or
at
least
stating
that
we
shouldn't
even
have
to
be
in
this
point,
where
we're
talking
about
back
and
forth
about
like
what
is
within
the
scope
of
legislative
authority
when
this
is
within
the
scope
of
legislative
authority.
But
if
this
amendment
is
not
it,
you
know
that
that
we
would
have
to
take
ordinance
actions.
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
process
needs
to
happen.
To
get
us
back
to
that
original
layout.
That
council
have
all
been
briefed
on
that.
L
Sure,
chair
johnson,
mr
wilcox,
yes,
I
think
chair
johnson
and
councilmember
wansley.
There
are
really
multiple
avenues
you
could
take
here,
first
and
foremost,
those
original
delegations,
you
could
amend
or
rescind
so
I
I
referenced
the
city
ordinance
the
1995
resolution
as
well.
You
could
modify
those
as
council,
that's
entirely
within
your
authority,
and
you
know
just
to
clarify
again.
I
said
it
earlier,
but
at
least
me
sitting
in
this
chair,
I'm
number
one
saying:
council
does
not
have
the
authority
to
do
this.
L
I'm
saying
that
you've
it
as
it
currently
states
you've
delegated
some
of
the
authority
to
public
works
and
the
the
proper
process
would
be
to.
You
know,
claw
that
back
or
retake
that
or
amend
that
which
of
course
carries
with
it.
Some
some
other
considerations,
an
alternative
which
I
mentioned
would
be
to
amend
the
no
parking
ordinance
that
is
is
in
place
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
that
is
mini
minneapolis
code
478.90
and
that
prescribes
parking
regulations
that
the
council
has
established
throughout
the
city.
L
Right
things
like
you
know
you
can't
park
on
a
sidewalk.
You
can't
park
within
20
feet
of
a
fire
department.
You
know
entryway
those
types
of
regulations
that
would
have
uniform
applicability
throughout
the
city
and
would
carry
the
weight
of
enforcement
right.
A
violation
would
be
enforceable
in
court,
and-
and
that
is
something
that
you
could
consider
right,
for
example,
and
of
course
I
wouldn't
ever
seek
to
try
to
tell
our
elected
officials
policy
that
they
could
consider.
L
But
if
you
state
that
there's
no
parking
in
transit
priority
lines
and-
and
that
was
you
know
the
case
across
the
city
through
ordinance
through
a
you-
know-
lawfully
enacted
ordinance
that
this
body
chose
to
to
pursue
and
and
adopt
and
pass,
and
that
is
something
that
I
think
would
achieve.
L
Probably
the
end
result
that
you're
seeking
here,
but
would
be
doing
so
in
a
way
that
we
wouldn't
run
into
this
murky
issue
of
hey.
Is
this
power?
This
is
this
really
just
a
lane
designation
that
was
delegated
to
the
to
the
director
of
public
works
or
not.
So
I
think
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
L
There
are
multiple
ways
you
could
you
could
you
know,
look
at
those
delegations
and
choose
to
tweak
those
amend
those
or
you
could
pursue
a
you
know
entirely
different
route
through
the
parking
restrictions,
because
you
do
have
the
authority
to
obviously
to
you
know,
you're
the
legislative
body.
You
have
the
authority
to
regulate
the
mannered
method
in
which
vehicles
are
parked
in
the
city
of
minneapolis.
Of
course,.
N
Yes-
and
I
think
somewhat
gets
at
maybe
a
part
of
my
question-
I
think
the
the
original
piece
is.
We
already
had
our
original
policy
that
was
approved
by
prior
counsel,
so
prior
administration
that
included
24
7
bus
lanes.
That
was
the
original
layout
that,
under
our
current,
is
not
now
from
day
one.
N
Well,
that's
news
to
me,
but
nevertheless,
I'm
more
interested
in
the
original
layout
that
I,
from
my
understanding,
still
prioritized
24
7
on
day.
One
you've
mentioned
this
mac
director
margaret
ellison
keller
tell
her
that
this
is
the
same
proposal.
N
If
it
is,
then
we
should
see
that
reflected
in
what
we're
considering
and
I
don't
think
it
is.
Hence
why
we're
having
council
member
chuck
ty's
amendment
also,
why
I'm
supporting
it,
because
it
does
not
seem
the
delegation
of
that
this
new
exemption
of
delegation
to
leadership
that
now
we're
seeing
this
change,
and
that's
a
very
concerning
dynamic
that
we
have
to
consider
considering.
A
C
C
I
know
that
we've
provided
all
of
those
comments
to
council
member
chug
thai
at
this
point
and
the
number
one
concern
in
that
round
of
the
final
round
was
a
concern
about
parking,
and
so
that
is
why
you
see
the
modification
which
is
for
a
dynamic
lane,
with
full
implementation
for
all
day
bus
lanes
in
the
very
near
future,
us
working
with
metro
transit
to
establish
the
hours
of
the
dynamic
lane
so
that
it
works
for
them.
They
have
more
data
about
that.
C
That
is
that's
what
you're
seeing
it?
There
was
no
vote
or
approval
that
I
am
aware
of
that
happened
previously
to
this
layout.
The
layout
is
a
curb
to
curb
layout.
It
shows
you,
the
geometry
of
the
street.
It
allows
us
to
move
this
plan,
which
is
a
plan
at
30
percent
into
transportation
engineering,
which
is
mr
ellwood's
section
as
director
to
be
able
to
get
to
the
work
to
get
this
designed.
We
have
two
years
of
design
before
we
begin
construction
on
this
project.
C
D
What
I'm
most
concerned
about
is
getting
the
layout
approved
by
the
city
council
and
by
the
mayor,
so
that
our
public
works
staff
can
meet
their
june
deadline
for
the
federal
funding,
and
this
timeline
already
is,
were
you
know
aggressive,
so
I
do
understand
that
my
fellow
council
members
want
to
have
this
conversation
about
the
operations
plan
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't,
but
I
I'm
also
hearing
from
the
attorney
that
the
best
way
to
go
about
this
isn't
meddling
necessarily
with
our
layout
plan.
D
If
it's
in
the
interest
of
the
council
members
they
should,
we
can
take
the
recommended
channels
that
have
been
outlined
for
us
today,
and
this
conversation
about
operations
plan
can
and
should
happen
separate
from
this
layout
plan.
But
that's
that's.
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
and
I
hope
that
we
can
move
forward
with.
You
know
this
layout
plan
as
we
and
has
been
given
to
us
by
our
public
works
staff.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
before
I
recognize
councilmember
truck
tile,
just
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
councilman
member
rainville,
welcome
to
the
pwi
committee,
councilmember
chuck
thai.
K
Last
thing,
and
then
I'll
I'll
call
the
question
at
the
end
of
this,
but
I
just
just
want
to
clarify
so
everyone's
on
the
same
page:
we're
we're
not
we're
not
actually
getting
into
the
operations
plan
right
now,
we're
not
getting
into
the
operations
plan
with
this
amendment,
that's
why
you
don't
see
references
to
when
buses
will
run
and
what
metro
transit
where
it
needs
to
do
and
what
we're
asking
them
of
we're.
This
is
an
amendment
to
the
layout
to
approve
this
layout,
which
you
know.
K
I
actually
think
you
make
an
excellent
point
and
it's
something
that
we've
talked
about,
but
I
don't
know
if
we've
done
it
on
the
public
record
that
we
need
to
complete
this
layout
approval
and
we
need
to
do
it
now.
We
actually
needed
to
do
it
months
ago
and
and
we're
we're.
You
know
we're
we've
run
out
the
clock,
and
at
this
point
we
we
need
to
approve
this
layout.
So
with
this
with
this
amendment,
you
know,
I
think,
we're
we're
ready
to
do
that
as
a
council.
K
So
with
that
call
the
question.
A
Well,
maybe
I'll
just
as
a
friendly
component
here.
If
nobody
else
has
any
discussion
or
comments,
we
could
just
go
straight
to
a
vote
on
the
amendment
right.
So
a
informal
call
to
question
we'll
call
it
and
I'm
not
seeing
any
additional
comments
or
questions.
So
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
on
this
amendment.
B
A
That
motion
carries
so
we
have
completed
the
first
of
five,
the
other
ones
I
think
are
related,
though
so
we'll
now
move
on
to
items
number
two
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
move
that
item
and
see.
If
there's
any
comments
or
questions
on
that-
and
I
am
not
seeing
any
so,
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll.
A
A
M
B
A
For
five
eyes
that
motion
carries
and
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
four
and
I
believe,
there's
a
substitute
for
that.
Councilman.
K
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
johnson,
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
learned
during
our
our
technical
briefing
on
hennepin
avenue
earlier
this
week
on
monday
was
that
in
the
initial
items
that
came
to
this
committee
for
approval,
there
was
a
the
passage
of
this
resolution
directing
the
city
engineer
to
establish
restrictions
to
meet
the
state
aid
rule,
and
this
was
a
like
a
and
we
all
we
had
a
ton
of
questions
on
this
last
time
we
decided
to
hold
it
back
in
committee
and
then
we're
gonna
move
it
forward
this
time
between
committee
and
and
today,
what
we've
learned
is
that
we
actually
don't
have
to
pass
this
resolution
to
meet
that
state
aid
rule.
K
We
believe
right
now,
and
so
that
being
said,
you
know
I'm
bringing
forward
a
substitute
resolution
that
you
know
still
does
the
the
same
exact
thing
that
the
previous
resolution
was
going
to
do
it's
it's
word
for
word
the
same
language,
but
it
removes
the
references
to
needing
to
approve
a
resolution
like
this.
In
order
to
meet
the
state
a
requirement,
so
we're
still
doing
the
same
exact
thing,
but
but
not
for
the
for
for
for
checking
a
box
for
the
state.
K
I
think
a
a
couple
of
important
things
to
note
about
this
resolution.
We
do
things
like
this
as
a
council,
actually,
all
of
the
time
just
recently,
you
know
we
approved
a
a
parking
restriction
resolution
like
this
for
upper
harbor
terminal,
where
we
removed
parking
from
that
from.
I
think
it
was
lindale
entirely,
and
this
parking
resolution
actually
doesn't
do
that
it.
K
It
has
exemptions
for
for
the
the
the
loading
zones
or
the
parking
bays
to
ensure
that
you
know
we're
still
able
to
have
some
parking
on
on
this
corridor,
and
so
I
wanna
just
bring
this
substitute
resolution
to
this
committee.
A
D
Thank
you,
chair
johnson,
so
I
just
want
to
get
some
clarity,
I'm
not
sure
who
can
help
answer
this
question,
but
to
your
point
we
talked
about
this
and
they
stated
that
this
was
going
to
be.
This
would
be
unnecessary
to
move
this
forward.
So
I'm
curious
to
know
why
we
cannot
just
remove
this
altogether,
but
I'm.
K
That's
that's
a
really
good
question,
so
we
do
not
need
to
move
this
forward
in
order
to
meet
the
state's
requirement
for,
for
you
know,
moving
forward
with
this
reconstruction.
We
are
moving
this
forward
because
we
are,
we
are.
We
are,
you
know,
removing
parking
with
the
exception
of
these
specific
zones
from
hennepin
avenue,
which
we
were
doing
kind
of
no
matter
what
and
then
we've
been
having
this
separate
conversation
about.
D
C
This
has
been
a
step
that
is
unnecessary
and
has
been
being
done
unnecessarily
frankly
and
making
work
for
all
of
you,
because
this
was
covered
by
that
original
or
the
law
change
the
legislative
law
change
and
then
the
practice
had
been
to
continue
to
bring
this
there's
nothing
in
the
legislation
that
says
you
have
to
bring
this
and
the
state
aid
division
or
of
mndot
has
told
us,
because
it's
a
delegated
authority,
it
is
not
needed.
Minneapolis
is
unique
in
this
way,
I
will
say
that
we
have
because
of
that
law
change.
C
A
A
That
motion
carries
and
now
we'll
move
on
to
the
fifth
item
and
if
this
is
actually
a
staff
direction
from
councilmember
chug
thai
customer
chuggtai.
K
A
A
Oh,
oh,
after
five,
okay,
perfect,
I
will
see
any
additional
comments
or
questions
on
that
not
seeing
any
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
A
Aye
there
are
five
eyes
that
motion
carries
and
before
that
complete.
Well,
that
completes
item
number
four
for
us
today
and
before
we
adjourn,
I
see
councilmember
wansley
for
a
comment
or
question.
N
Yeah,
this
is
more
of
a
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
get
this
on
public
record,
especially
now
that
this
process
is
moving
next
week
into
kind
of
a
more
full
council
discussion.
N
I
just
want
to
put
on
public
record
some
of
my
frustrations
and
major
concerns
about
how
this
project
has
been
moved
forward
over
the
past
few
months
and
highlighted
to
the
connection
to
what,
as
you
noted,
councilmember
johnson,
it's
clearly
an
entrepreneur
enterprise-wide
problem.
N
Our
current
city
has
major
credibility
issues
right
now,
and
I
believe
that
this
project,
in
the
way
that
our
leadership
has
handled
it,
is
indicative
of
a
city's
problem.
Our
city's
problem,
with
breaking
away
from
the
status
quo,
which
inherently
does
not
include
or
prioritize
people
of
color,
low-income
folks,
renters
students
and
those
with
accessibility
needs.
N
As
we
noted
earlier
about
how
the
discussion
around
24,
24
7
bus
lines
was
already
included
in
original
council
action.
This
partic
this
this
was
laid
out
when
city
council
approved
the
transportation
action
plan
last
year
under
action,
transit,
2.
2.5.
It
states
that
road
construction
projects
on
high
frequency,
transit
corridors
allocate
dedicate
space
or
allocate
and
dedicate
space
for
bus
only
lanes
and
other
transit
advantages.
N
That
will
actually
have
significant
impact
on
bettering
the
lives
of
working-class
people
in
our
city.
So
I
just
want
the
public
to
be
aware
of
this
dynamic,
because
this
hennepin
project,
as
you
know,
the
council
member
johnson,
is
so
much
more
of.
It
sets
a
new
president
for
how
we
really
embrace
a
new
road
infrastructure
in
our
city
that
really
champions
the
needs
of
working-class
people
and
bipod
communities,
and
I'm
very
saddened
to
see
that
our
leadership
could
continue
throughout
this
process
to
conflate
issues
between.
What's
in
our
authority,
council.
A
Yeah
councilmember,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you,
but
I
we
just
want
to
remind
folks
on
decorum,
especially
talking
about
leadership
or
how
other
people
are
operating
in.
N
That
way-
and
I
can
only
name-
and
I'm
only
naming
leadership,
including
us
and
those
who
have
been
part
of
policy
creation.
This
is
not
saying
any
negative
things
about
them.
I'm
saying
I'm
very
disheartened
by
the
confusion
that
we've
experienced
for
the
past
three
weeks.
That
has
been
completely
unnecessary.
N
That
has
been
murdering
our
authority
and
that's
not
appropriate.
I
think
in
this
current
climate,
where
the
legislative
body
is
the
closest
decision-making
body
to
the
public,
and
I
want
our
public
to
trust
and
know
that
we're
here
to
carry
out
their
interests,
and
I
would
hope
also
that
our
staff
and
all
leadership
that
has
a
place
in
the
city.
N
A
I
know
these
are
oftentimes
very
big
issues
right
and
they
have
real
outcomes
and
affect
people
and
whether
that's
transit
users,
whether
that's
folks,
who
don't
use
transit,
whether
that's
small
businesses,
and
these
are
really
challenging
issues
that
we
work
through,
and
I
know
that
I
feel
very
fortunate
to
get
to
work
with
so
many
smart
dedicated
people
that
care
deeply
about
our
city
and
we
can
have
a
lot
of
smart,
dedicated
people
all
looking
at
the
same
data,
the
same
issues
and
we
can
come
to
different
conclusions
on
it,
and
I
just
want
to
really
remind
us
of
that
and
and
really
lean
into
the
fact
that
we
have
these
processes
to
try
to
sort
that
out.
A
And
it
is
important
to
have
differences
of
opinion
to
be
able
to
talk
about
these
concerns
in
these
issues
as
well,
and
it's
okay
too,
when
we
are
on
different
pages
when
it
comes
to
votes
or
issues
and
we're
just
going
to
work
through
it
all
and
keep
working
for
the
people
of
minneapolis
as
we're
all
committed
to
do.
So.
Thank
you
and
not
seeing
any
further
business
before
this
committee.
Without
objection,
we
stand
adjourned
thanks.
Everyone.