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From YouTube: May 8, 2023 Planning Commission
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A
Good
afternoon,
everybody
Welcome
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
City
Planning
Commission
today
is
Monday
May
8th.
My
name
is
Alyssa
Olson
and
I'm.
The
president
of
the
Planning
Commission,
the
city,
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
YouTube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
Public,
Access
and
transparency.
A
C
A
All
right
we
have
a
quorum
with
that.
We
will
proceed
to
the
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
limbs.nn.gov,
and
there
are
also
copies
on
the
counter
by
the
clerk
we
will
be
getting
with
acceptance
of
the
minutes
from
April
24th
2023
could
I
have
a
motion
to
accept
those
minutes.
A
Is
there
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
opposed
any
abstentions,
all
right
that
motion
passes
and
the
minutes
are
adopted
before
we
get
started
on
sorting
the
public
hearing
agenda
for
today.
I
just
want
to
note
that
I
know.
Many
of
you
are
here
for
the
Hiawatha
maintenance
facility,
roof
Depot
site.
A
We
will
be
discussing
that
item
and
it
will
not
be
approved
on
consent,
but
we
do
have
some
other
pieces
of
business
to
cover
before
that.
There's
not
a
ton
of
people,
but
if
anyone
would
feel
more
comfortable
sitting
in
the
room
across
the
hall,
there's
a
live
stream
in
there
and
when
we
get
to
that
item
you
could
you
could
come
in
here
at
that
time
at
that
time.
A
Let's
see
here
all
right
with
that
being
said,
our
next
order
of
business
is
to
organize
organize
the
public
hearing
agenda,
which
is
again
available
at
Lim.
Stop
Minneapolis
mn.gov
I'm,
going
to
read
through
the
agenda
items
and
numbers
and
the
addresses
and
state
whether
they're,
slated
for
consent
or
discussion
consent
items
will
be
passed
without
discussion
by
the
board.
We
will
be
adhering
to
the
staff
recommendation
listed
on
the
agenda
and
the
item's
recommended
motion
section.
Any
conditions
listed
in
that
section
will
also
apply.
A
A
All
right,
so
we
have
the
following
items
on
our
agenda.
This
evening
item
number
four
is
600
Park
Ave
and
commissioner
Meyer
has
has
pulled
this
item
for
discussion.
So
we'll
discuss
item
number
four
item.
Number
five
is
200
South
5th
Street
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
number?
Five
foreign,
we'll
put
item
number
five
on
consent:
item
number,
six
vacation
of
a
water
main
and
storm
sewer
easement
between
Hennepin
Avenue
and
Fremont
Avenue
South
near
seven
points.
A
Mall
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
this
item
all
right?
Seeing
none
we'll
put
item
six
on
consent
item
seven
is
2605
Broadway
Street
Northeast
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
seven,
seeing
none
will
put
item
7
on
consent.
Item
number
eight
is
411.
East
38th
Street
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
A
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
eight,
seeing
none
we'll
put
item
8
on
consent.
Item
number
nine
is
828th
Street
East
2753
Chicago
Avenue
2701
Elliott
Avenue
2742
10th
Avenue
South
924
28th,
Street,
East,
916,
28th,
Street
East
and
9
20
28th
Street
East
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
this
item?
Item
number:
nine
will
put
item
9
on
consent
item
10
is
1924
26th
Street,
East
Stafford
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
A
Is
there
anyone
here
to
spec,
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
10.,
seeing
none
will
put
item
10
on
consent
item
11
is
5757.
Irving
Avenue
South
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
11.,
seeing
none
will
put
item
11
on
consent
and
then
number
12
is
Hiawatha
maintenance
facility.
As
previously
stated,
we
will
discuss
this
item.
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
read
through
the
address
is
one
more
time
or
the
numbers.
If
you
think
you
don't
know
what
item
you
may
want
to
speak
on,
now
would
be
the
time
to
speak
up
all
right
number:
four
600
Park
Ave
number,
five
200
South,
5th
Street
number,
six
vacation
of
a
water
main
number:
seven
2605,
Broadway,
Street,
Northeast
number,
eight
411,
East,
38th,
Street
number
9,
800,
28th,
Street
East.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
addresses
I'm,
not
going
to
read
them
all:
okay
item,
10,
1924,
26th,
Street,
East,
item
11,
57,
57,
Irving,
Avenue,
South
and
then
item
12
Hiawatha
maintenance
facility.
We
will
discuss
all
right,
so,
let's
review,
we
will
discuss
items
number
four
and
twelve
and
on
consent
we
have
items
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
nine,
ten
and
eleven
Commissioners
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended
so
moved
all
right.
A
D
Madam
president,
could
I
interrupt
for
just
one
moment.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
you
mentioned
the
live
broadcast
to
this
meeting.
I
just
want
to
mention
for
the
record
in
case
Commissioners
or
anyone
in
the
audience
is
getting.
Messages
are
YouTube.
Live
stream
is
not
currently
working.
D
A
Great,
thank
you
all
right,
so
we
are
on
our
consent
items.
This
is
for
items
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
nine,
ten
or
eleven.
If
there's
anyone
here
who
would
like
to
speak
on
these
items,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing.
Now
you
can
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
comments.
A
E
A
A
All
right,
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
discussion
items
and
I'm
going
to
explain
how
those
are
going
to
work.
So
we
will
have
presentations
and
take
public
testimony
for
these
items
and
deliberate
on
them
and
then
make
a
decision
after
the
public.
Testimony
has
been
heard
for
each
discussion.
Item
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
that
agenda
item
once
I
close
the
public
hearing
for
an
item.
No
additional,
no
additional
public
testimony
can
be
taken.
A
However,
staff
may
still
be
asked
to
answer
questions
from
the
board
after
the
public
hearing.
For
an
item
is
closed,
board
members
will
discuss
and
then
act
on
motions,
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
room
to
testify
this
evening,
so
we'll
be
limiting
time
to
two
minutes
per
person.
So
if
you've
prepared
comments
plan
on
on
two
minutes-
and
we
do
have
a
timer,
so
you
can
keep
track
of
how
much
time
has
gone
by,
but
that
makes
sure
everyone
has
time
to
speak
on
on
the
items
all
right.
F
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
is
an
item
that
was
continued
from
a
previous
Planning
Commission
meeting,
which
we
did
not
open.
The
public
hearing
for
the
application
is
back
before
you
this
evening.
It's
by
Hennepin
Healthcare,
it's
for
the
Hennepin
Healthcare
purple
parking
ramp,
Expansion
Project
at
600,
Park
Avenue
the
site
is
down
zoned.
Excuse
me
downtown
neighborhood
District,
it's
located
in
the
Downtown
parking
overlay
and
in
the
Transit
30
overlay
District.
G
F
Avenue,
it
is
the
property
here
in
the
middle
of
the
screen.
It
occupies
the
entire
block
bounded
by
Portland
sixth
Park
Avenue
and
7th
Street.
The
East
half
of
the
block
is
occupied
occupied
by
an
existing
parking
garage
which
has
1332
spaces
in
it.
The
West
half
of
the
site
is
occupied
by
a
surface
parking
lot
that
would
be
removed
for
the
addition
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
expand
the
parking
garage.
F
F
F
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
connect
the
parking
garage
to
the
new
Thrivent
Building,
located
across
Portland
Avenue
from
the
site
via
a
Skyway,
and
then
this
Skyway
would
connect
through
the
building
through
the
existing
purple
parking
garage
and
then
into
the
HC
campus
itself.
Hcmc
campus
excuse
me
itself
and
the
exterior
materials
of
the
parking
garage
include
precast,
concrete
metal
panel,
both
perforated
and
solid
and
then
glass
and
then
to
blend
the
existing
parking
garage
with
the
proposed
parking
garage.
F
They
did
need
to
complete
a
travel
demand
management
plan
for
the
development
strategies
that
they
picked
were
Transit,
Fair,
subsidy,
real-time
transfer
information,
and
then
there
were
several
that
were
proposed
by
the
applicant
utilizing
Metro
Transit
guaranteed
ride
home
program.
They
offer
patients
with
more
than
four
appointments
in
a
row
rides.
F
F
They
did
work
with
public
works
and
cped
and
they
did
achieve
the
points
necessary
for
this
tdmp,
and
so
we
have
approved
that
document.
The
site
was
subject
to
an
environmental
review
back
in
2022,
the
city
council
found
that
the
eaw
was
adequate
for
the
project
and
that
no
Eis
was
needed.
F
There
are
four
applications
that
are
needed
tonight.
One
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
Hennepin
or
for
the
parking
garage
itself.
The
proposed
parking
garage
is
an
addition
to
an
existing
parking
ramp
located
on
the
site.
This
is
part
of
a
larger
campus-wide
master
plan
affecting
the
entire
HCM
campus.
F
G
F
Shows
the
new
the
new
ramp
Edition.
What
is
green
is
operational
areas
of
the
garage
or
amstan
ramps
out
and
then
the
blue
is
the
commercial
space
and
then
the
yellow
here
is
your
lobby
and
entrance
along
Portland
Avenue
again.
The
project
is
part
of
the
HCMC
campus
ride
master
plan
and
provides
necessary
parking
for
the
hospital
campus.
F
The
traffic
study
concluded
that
there
would
be
no
major
disruptions
to
traffic
operations
for
either
the
existing
or
fill
build
out
conditions,
and
it
was
recommended
in
that
study
that
the
city
review
signal
timing
at
different
intersections
around
the
site,
and
that
is
a
normal
outcome
of
travel,
demand,
management
plans
and
traffic
analysis
that
is
done
by
engineers
and
reviewed
by
both
Public
Works
and
cped.
So
that
is
not
an
unusual
outcome
of
a
of
a
traffic
of
a
travel
demand.
F
Management
plan
are
with
those
or
for
those
reasons
we
are
recommending
approval
of
the
conditional
use
permit.
There
are
two
variances
that
are
needed.
The
first
variance
is
to
reduce
the
minimum
height
of
the
building
from
10
stories
down
to
Nine
Stories,
the
minimum
height
requirement
in
the
Transit
30
overlay
district
is
10
stories.
This
will
be
nine
practical
difficulties
do
exist
in
complying
with
the
ordinance.
F
The
other
variants
that
is
needed
excuse
me,
is
to
reduce
the
minimum
width
of
the
dry
vial
in
the
parking
garage
itself
from
18
feet
down
to
14.2
feet.
The
zoning
code
requires
parking
spaces.
The
drive
aisles
we
have
a
certain
size
depending
on
the
angle
of
the
parking
space,
and
if
the
drive
aisle
is
one
or
two
way,
the
parking
styles
are
proposed
to
be
striped
at
60
degrees,
which
requires
an
18
foot
wide
dry
vial
and
the
proposed
width
is
14
feet.
F
Practical
difficulties
do
exist
in
complying
with
the
ordinance.
The
parking
spaces
and
dry
valves
in
the
existing
ramp
do
not
meet
the
size
requirements
of
the
zoning
code
and
they
are
replicating
those
sizes
in
this
Edition,
because
this
is
an
addition
to
the
garage
and
one
can
drive
between
the
two
structures
without
maybe
even
realizing
you're
going
from
old
to
new
is
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
match
the
parking
space
and
drive
out
Dimensions
to
make
it
easier
for
the
customers
who
park
there.
F
G
F
The
principal
entrance
to
the
garage
is
not
on
6th
Street,
which
is
the
sixth
or
seventh
would
have
been
the
front
yards
Portland
would
have
been
the
corner
side.
However,
when
this
parking
ramp
was
designed,
it
was
designed
with
the
existing
ramp
in
mind.
Obviously,
so,
cars
can
flow
between
because
the
entrances
and
exits
to
the
existing
ramp
are
along
sixth
and
seventh.
That
is
how
this
worked
out
best
for
the
new
entrances
and
exits.
F
So
given
the
limited
Street
Frontage,
if
you
will
along
sixth
and
seventh,
the
decision
was
made,
was
to
put
the
principal
entrance
into
that
commercial
space
on
Portland
Avenue.
We
are
recommending
that
you
grant
alternative
compliance
for
that.
F
As
you
can
imagine
our
as
you
can
imagine,
the
parking
garage
doesn't
have
Windows
and
they
do
have
some
blank
walls,
because
this
is
meant
to
be
an
open
air
parking
garage.
It
is
not
fully
enclosed
for,
for
all
of
the
mechanical
and
heating
reasons
that
go
into
those
decisions.
We
are
recommending
that
you
grant
alternative
compliance
for
those
and
also
for
the
active
functions
in
the
parking
garage
along
the
street
level.
F
As
you
can
see,
from
the
site
plan
or
from
the
floor
plans,
they
have
maximized
where
they
can
have
active
uses
on
the
ground
floor
and
the
rest
of
the
spaces
have
been
used
for
parking
ramp
for
operations
operation
purposes
in
in
and
out
the
other
area
that
needs
alternative.
Compliance
is
specifically
related
to
the
parking
garages
or
the
parking
garage
itself
and
our
regulations
around
those
I'm
having
to
do
with
the
active
functions
uses
on
the
upper
floors.
I'm
not
exceeding
70
percent.
F
The
top
level
needs
to
be
screened,
and
then
the
the
size
of
the
parking
garage
should
not
exceed
the
size
of
the
other
uses,
because
this
is
an
existing
garage
with
a
garage
Edition.
It
is
not
practical
to
meet
these
requirements
to
site
plan
review,
so
we
are
recommending
that
you
grant
alternative
compliance.
A
Hillary
questions
for
staff
I
see
commissioner
Meyer.
H
Do
you
know
the
lifespan
of
the
parking
garage
that
is
going
to
be
demolished
like
what
the
approximate
duration
of
it
would
have
been?
Otherwise.
A
Steph
CNE,
so
thank
you.
Hillary
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
now
for
this
item
is
the
applicant
here,
and
would
they
like
to
come
forward
and
say
anything
on
this
item.
I
Okay,
I,
so
I,
don't
know
that
I'll
add
additional
information
in
terms
of
what
Hillary
presented
she
did
a
very
great
thorough
job.
Thank
you.
Hillary.
I
Thanks
I
think
so,
let's
see
here,
so
it's
it's
going
to
be
duplicate
information.
We
just
wanted
to
go
over
again
the
variants,
so
so
really
on
the
new
edition
for
the
height
variants,
we
want
to
be
respectful
of
the
helipad,
that's
on
the
existing
building,
so
the
new
building
is
going
to
be
Nine
Stories
so
that
we
don't
interfere
with
the
flight
pass
to
the
helipad
on
the
existing
HCMC
ramp
that
we
are
doing
the
addition
to
than
in
terms
of
the
the
drive
aisle
Dimensions.
I
As
Hillary
mentioned,
we
are
connecting
on
Floors
three
and
above
to
the
existing
ramp,
and
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
maintain
that
consistent
travel
path
for
patients
Parkers
users
of
this
ramp,
so
that
they
notice
or
I
guess,
don't
notice
that
they
will
be
traveling
from
new
to
existing
ramp.
So
really
keeping
that
consistent,
14-8
Drive
aisle.
I
So,
as
you
can
see
here
on
the
exterior
design,
we
are
taking
cues
in
terms
of
materiality
and
color
from
the
newer
CCS
building
on
the
HCMC
campus.
We
are
also
taking
the
materials
to
the
existing
parking
ramp
that
exists
today
to
try
to
create
one
block
design.
You
could
say
with
a
perforated
metal
metal
panels
in
in
two
tones,
the
orangey
tone
and
a
gray
tone
as
well
as
glazing.
I
I
Bringing
some
sustainability
into
the
project
of
solar
panel
roof,
which
serves
as
a
cover
to
surrounding
buildings
that
are
taller,
so
you
won't
be
able
to
see
those
cars
parking,
as
well
as
bringing
sustainability
and
sourced
power
to
the
project,
and
then
I
did
I
did
put
in
the
presentation
specific
plans.
If
you
have
any
specific
questions
to
the
1005
space
parking
ramp,
that
we
can
I
can
refer
to
as
as
needed.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
H
I
I
I
don't
know
the
exact
year
we
weren't
the
designer
or
the
building
of
that
of
that
ramp,
but
I
can
say
that
there
are
currently
sections
of
that
ramp
that
are
closed
due
to
the
unusability
of
that
ramp
and
due
to
its
I,
guess
crumbling
nature.
I
So
so
really
the
goal
is
to
to
get
Parkers
out
of
that
ramp
as
soon
as
possible,
because
it
is
at
end
of
life.
Okay,.
H
And
then
I
have
questions
related
to
the
travel
demand
management
discussion
which
I'm
not
sure,
if
they're
better
suited
for
the
staff
or
the
applicant
or
maybe
both.
H
But
can
you
talk
to
me
about
the
reasoning
behind
some
of
the
African
recommended
staff
proposed
ones
like
the
one
for
bus
passes
for
your
patients?
Can
you
talk
more
about.
J
J
You
know,
obviously
being
a
a
business
and
a
a
service
to
the
downtown
area
has
challenges.
Parking
is,
is
a
challenge
that
they
continue
to
struggle
with
and
they're.
The
Hennepin
Health
has
been
continually
looking
for
opportunities
for
alternative
modes
of
transportation.
In
order
to
alleviate
you
know
the
parking
needs
I
had
it
is
that
I
guess.
Does
that
answer
your
question,
or
was
there
something
more
specific
about.
H
Yeah
so
I'm
pulling
it
up
here,
so
it
was
like.
If
a
patient
is
there
four
times
in
a
month
they
get
a
they
get
a
chance
to
pass,
am
I
remembering
that
one
right.
J
H
So
I'm
wondering
so
that's
what
you
that's
what
you
already
have
now.
That's
not
something
correct.
J
Okay,
correct
correct:
that's
not
something
we're
adding
it's
something
we're
doing
now
in
order
to
alleviate
the
the
parking
which
is
only
going
to
get
worse.
When
we
take
down,
you
know,
1400
stall
parking
ramp,
which
is
at
its
end
of
life
and
replacing
it
with
less
parking.
Okay,.
J
H
J
J
Hennepin
Health
is
working
with
a
with
a
consultant
to
look
at
all
of
their
parking
needs
and
and
how
they
might
thanks.
L
We
did
hire
a
new
hire
to
run
that
and
we
worked
with
some
other
Hospital
systems
that
were
put
in
touch
with
and
we're
going
to
build
that
program,
because
it's
going
to
be
extremely
important
to
us
as
an
organization
with
the
reduction
of
those
stalls
to
have
these
Consolidated,
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
employees
find
other
employees
to
ride
charity
together.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
easy
transportation
for
them,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
focus
Initiative
for
the
organization.
L
It
takes
a
little
while
to
roll
out
to
an
organization
our
size,
but
we
do
know
that
we
need
to
have
these
strategies
in
place
by
the
time
we
open
this
ramp
so
that
we're
successful
in
being
able
to
park
those
that
need
to
be
there
and
then
also
have
easy,
optional
volunteers
that
are
able
to
find
other
modes
of
transportation
available
for
them
and
we're
taking
that
initiative
to
do
in-house.
So
we
didn't
want
to
stop
just
with
this
process.
L
We
want
this
to
be
part
of
our
culture
going
forward,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
are
taking
place
there
now,
but
we
did
take
some
major
steps
in
that
direction.
Just
reaching
out
to
some
other
Hospital
Systems
understand,
what's
available
out
there
and
how
to
kind
of
build
that
program.
Thank.
H
M
Hi
my
question
is
for
the
applicant
as
well:
I'm
I
remember
this
project
from
Arc
many
of
the
whole
conversation
and
there
still
looks
like
there's
no
short-term
bike
parking
included
in
this
facility.
Can
you
please
explain
that.
I
We
did
look
at
options
for
short-term
bike
parking,
and
you
know
that
you
do
bring
up
a
very
good
point.
We,
you
know
I,
think
that's
that's
one
of
those
items
that
is
still
outstanding.
We
have
looked
at
the
campus
as
a
whole
in
terms
of
where
short-term
bike
parking
is
and
where
it's
best
suited.
If
it's
best
suited
in
this
ramp
and
really
right
now,
it's
an
ongoing
discussion.
Is
it
best
suited
by
like
Ed,
for
instance,
because
that
is
a
24-hour
entrance.
I
I
know
when
we
were
here
last
time
we
talked
about
it
being
in
a
covered
space,
and
that's
why
it
was
talked
about
in
the
ramp
I
think,
there's
a
a
discussion
that
has
to
be
had
about
really
having
in
a
ramp.
How
do
you
keep
bikers
safe
when
cars
are
continually
reversing
out
of
parking
spaces?
So
that's
one
thing
that
that
you
know
we're
taking
a
look
at
in
terms
of
on
campus
is
within
this
ramp.
The
best
place
for
non-secured
bike
parking,
an
ongoing
discussion.
N
M
Able
to
do
that
successfully,
but
I
think
we
sat
up
here
and
talked
about
that
for
a
long
time
at
Committee
of
the
whole,
and
you
guys
were
talking
to
the
you
know,
the
medical
team
and
about
who
was
going
to
be
using
it.
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
inclined
to
say.
I
would
not
approve
this
unless
that
was
there,
because
that
was
a
long
part
of
our
discussion
last
time
we
were
all
here
and.
I
We
do
have
the
staff
bike
parking
on
the
ground
level,
which
is
the
secured
bike
parking.
The
one
thing
that
we
don't
have
in
the
ramp
is
the
the
patient
bike
parking,
but
there
is
patient
bike
parking
Elsewhere
on
campus,
so.
M
I
It's
not
not
as
the
campus
as
a
whole,
there's
other
in
the
in
the
tdmp
there's
other
bike
parking
identified
on
campus
was.
I
M
L
Think
your
colleague
Mike
yeah
I,
just
want
to
help
out
here
a
little
bit.
We
do
have
a
number
of
hurricane,
our
bike
parking
that's
already
available
on
campus
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
if
people
are
coming
to
the
campus,
we
try
to
get
them
to
park
as
close
to
the
entrances
as
possible,
so
they
don't
have
to
drive
around
campus
or
walk
around
campus
so
much,
and
so
that's
what
we
kind
of
have
been
premising
to
get
people
to
those
doors
and
locations.
L
M
Okay
and
then
I
also
had
a
question.
I
remember
the
design
when
we
didn't
see
that
Committee
of
whole
of
the
whole,
there
was
kind
of
corner
panels
where
there
was
kind
of
community
mural
spaces
going
in
the
new
design
does
not
have
that.
So.
I
J
On
the
exterior
yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
what
you
probably
saw
in
some
of
your
packet
was,
if
you
saw
some
I,
don't
think
I.
Have
it
up
here
exterior
images,
it's
not
on
this
one,
okay,
the
shot.
So
what
you?
What
you
saw
was
a
placeholder
for
for
a
community
art
installation.
J
We
have
a
internal
art
person
at
Hennepin
Health,
who
has
been
running
a
selection
process
for
an
art
consultant
to
help
do
go
through
that
that
process
to
help
us
engage
with
our
community
and
ultimately
design.
What
that
looks
like
so,
no
that's
fully
a
component
of
the
exterior
of
the
of
the
project.
That's
currently
contemplated
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
identified.
What
it
actually
looks
like
and
that's
not
identified
today.
I
So
it
would
actually
be
if
you're
able
to
see
my
cursor.
It
would
be
right
on
this
back
side
here.
So
it's
on
the
existing
Park
Side.
I
Of
right
now,
yes
right
now,
yeah
so
currently
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
art
consultant
to
really
how
do
we
Engage
The
Local
art
community
in
that
process,.
O
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
as
the
Hennepin
County
rep
I
should
say
a
few
things,
but
I
certainly
appreciate
the
process
in
which
the
public
art
has
been
the
way
in
which
Hennepin
Healthcare
has
incorporated
public
art
into
its
spaces
and
its
buildings,
and
the
way
that
Community
has
been
engaged
around
that
so
I'm
pleased
that
it's
a
ongoing
conversation
so
that
the
people
who
are
living
and
breathing
all
the
things
set
up
in
healthcare
in
the
surrounding
area
can
really
design
that
for
themselves.
O
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
add
on
to
commissioner
Myers
Point
around
the
travel
management
design
plan
is
that
there's
some
work
that
I
am
trying
to
do
it
to
to
do
as
well,
because
there
are
gaps,
I,
think
and
I
think
the
gentleman
mentioned
that
it's
an
ongoing
conversation
around
the
consistency
of
which
parking
passes
are
given
the
accessibility
in
which
Transit
passes
are
given
and
to
whom
those
are
given
to.
So.
O
As
someone
who's
very
familiar
with
having
to
visit
Hennepin
Healthcare
regularly
each
month,
we
are
absolutely
working
on
a
more
consistent
way
to
make
that
happen.
So
I
appreciate
commissioner
Meyer
bringing
that
up
and
that
it's
something
that
you
will
continue
to
take
into
consideration
as
this
moves
forward.
So
thank
you
absolutely.
A
All
right
any
more
questions
for
staff,
otherwise
our
po
or
for
the
applicant.
Otherwise
our
public
hearing
is
still
open
that
we
need
to
finish:
okay,
I'm,
not
seeing
any.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
A
You
so
our
public
hearing
for
this
item
is
open.
So
if
there's
anyone
here
who
would
like
to
come
and
speak
on
this
item,
you
will
have
two
minutes.
You
can
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
comments
or
name
in
neighborhood.
A
H
So
I
have
a
lot
of
thoughts
about
this.
Some
of
these
variances
I
think
are
pretty
straightforward.
Some
of
them,
one
of
them
I,
encourage
the
county
to
go
further
than
they're
they're,
going
they're
requesting
a
reduction
in
the
minimum
height
variance
from
10
stories
to
nine
I'd
love
to
see
it
be
smaller
than
that
to
to
be
as
small
of
a
of
a
parking
garage
as
possible.
H
H
So
you
know
for
number
one:
The,
Establishment,
maintenance
or
operation
of
the
conditional
use
will
not
be
detrimental
to
or
endanger
the
public,
health,
safety,
Comfort
or
general
welfare
number.
Four
adequate
measures
have
been,
or
will
be
taken
to
minimize
traffic
congestion
in
the
public
streets
number
five.
The
conditional
use
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan
I
mean
when
we.
H
When
we
look
at
these,
you
know
one
way
to
look
at
it
is
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
parking
garage
of
1400
spaces,
that's
going
to
be
removed,
and
this
is
going
to
be
less
than
that.
So
it's
a
it's
a
net
reduction.
H
If
you
look
at
it
just
that
way,
then
it's
meeting
you
know
Public
Health
targets
and
comprehensive
plan
targets
around
climate
action
and
things
like
that.
But
you
know
the
existing
parking
garages.
You.
H
Have
a
pretty
short
lifespan,
I
mean
I'm,
just
looking
in
on
Google
like
how
long
is
the
average
lifespan
of
a
parking
garage?
You
know
it's
about
20
to
50
years.
It's
not
very
long,
and
you
know
we
already.
We
heard
the
applicants
say
that
this
one
is
the
existing
one
is
crumbling,
so
it
might
be
the
case
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
keep
it
for
much
longer,
and
then
we
would
have
you
know
just
in
the
status
quo.
H
If
there
was
no
new
parking
garage,
then
there
might
be
a
significant
reduction
in
in
traffic
and
pollution
in
the
area.
The
for
the
you
know,
item
that's
next
on
the
agenda.
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
pollution
generated
from
I,
think
like
400
vehicles
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
this.
Is
you
know
more
than
twice
as
much
as
that?
So
it's
something
important
to
be
considering,
so
you
know
I
really
wanted.
H
You
know
to
closely
look
at
the
travel
demand
management-
that's
being
proposed
for
this,
because
because,
if
you
look
at
it
in
in
that
way
that
this
other
parking
garage,
you
know
has
a
limited
lifespan,
it's
probably
going
to
go
away
anyway,
then
we
are
allowing
a
new
parking
garage
to
be
built,
that'll
be
there
for
a
couple
generations
and-
and
you
know,
really
entrench
more
driving
them.
H
So
I'd
really
like
to
see
the
county
really
do
whatever
it
can
to
mitigate
that
now,
and
it
sounds
like
they're
having
this
study
to
consider
that
I
mean
it
seems
like
that,
should
have
come
first
to
figure
out
like
how
big
this
parking
garage
needed
to
be.
H
Maybe
it
could
have
been
smaller,
but
one
thing
I
want
to
propose
is
that
in
case
the
county
is
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
redirect
their
customers,
our
their
patients
in
different
ways
that
we,
you
know
authorized
making
in
like
I,
don't
know
seven
stories
instead
of
the
the
nine
that
they
requested,
so
that
I
mean
not
requiring
them
to
do
that,
but
giving
them
the
space
that
they
wouldn't
have
to
come
back
here
if
it
was
smaller
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
have
some
discussion
about.
H
Possibly
you
know
adding
conditions
around
the
travel
demand
management
like
you
know,
right
now,
the
status
quo
is
they
give
the
passes
to
customers.
If
that
customer
has
is
going
to
be
there
four
times
in
a
month
consistently
month
after
month.
You
know
for
the
meetings
that
we
have
here.
H
You
know
they
give
me
two
Transit
passes
for
each
for
each
meeting
here
right
and
that
helps
a
lot
to
you
know
to
incentivize
people.
So
you
know,
maybe
the
county
could
copy
what
the
city
is
doing
and
give
Transit
passes
to
all
their
customers
who
don't
drive
there,
and
then
maybe,
if
you
did
that,
then
you
could
get
by
with
a
much
smaller
parking
garage
which
might
save
you
a
lot
of
money
as
well.
But
but
that
part
is
beyond
our
scope
anyway.
H
Those
are
those
are
the
things
that
I
really
wanted
to
to
scrutinize
I'd
like
to
hear
what
other
Commissioners
have
about
those
ideas
about:
first,
reducing
the
height
requirement,
giving
a
bigger
variance
than
what
the
applicant
asks
for,
and
then
second
I'd
like
to
request
comment
about
you
know
possibly
adding
conditions
related
to
the
transit
demand,
travel.
K
O
Yep,
so
just
so
just
so
I'm
clear
what
is
the
specific
purpose
to
reduce
from
nine
to
seven,
because
we
know
that
there's
a
helipad
there
and
we
know
that
the
helipad
needs
to
land
at
a
trauma,
One
hospital,
so
bringing
it
down
to
seven,
isn't
a
requirement.
But
are
you
saying
to
add
it
as
a
recommendation,
meaning
that
Hennepin
Healthcare
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
bring
it
down
to
seven?
They
can
keep
it
at
nine
to
be
consistent.
P
H
Thank
you,
commissioner
Conley.
My
thought
is
to
not
I'm,
not
you
know,
requiring
anything,
but
I.
Think
the
the
helicopter
argument
would
justify
you
know,
possibly
a
shorter
building
to
give
them
more
clearance,
so
it
would
be
justified
under
the
existing
variance
logic,
but
would
also
just
give
the
county
more
room
to
build
a
smaller
one
if
they
chose
to
do
that
after
the
study
is
completed
as
I
answer,
the
question.
F
Yeah
go
ahead.
Hillary
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
if
you
were
to
choose
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
parking
garage
further
you
would
have
to
address
the
findings
and
staff
has
an
evaluated
the
impacts
of
having
a
seven
story
versus
a
nine
story.
We
know
that
nine
can
go
there.
It's
really.
We
really
want
ten.
We
want
30,
but
we
have
a
limitation
with
the
helipad.
We
have
a
practical
difficulty
here,
so
going
less
would
require
a
new
variance
and
I
have
talked
about
this
with
the
applicants
like
what
happens.
F
If
we
want
to
come
in
with
six
in
the
future
just
in
case,
then
you
have
to
come
back
to
Planning
Commission,
because
the
variance
is
to
nine.
So
we
have
an
evaluated
a
variance
to
last.
So
we
cannot
just
approve
a
new
variance
that
has
not
been
evaluated
by
staff,
so
that
would,
it
would
have
to
they'd
have
to
come
back
and
that's
not
what
they're
requesting
they're
requesting
down
to
nine.
A
Hillary
I
have
a
question
what
or
commissioner
Meyer
was
talking
about
conditions
around
the
tdmp
I'm
guessing
I'm,
just
trying
to
understand
what
that
would
look
like
as
far
as
on
which
application
this
would
be.
Would
it
be
like
a
condition
on
site
plan,
review
or.
F
It's
it's
an
administrative
application.
We
do
condition
that
they
meet
the
points
or
the
strategy
points
part
of
site
plan
review,
so
I
think.
If
you
wanted
to
add
conditions,
you
could
add
them
there.
F
A
Thank
you,
I
guess,
I
will
chime
in
and
I'll
say.
You
know,
I
think
that
this
is
a
regional
facility
and
I
think
that,
as
a
hospital,
I
I
feel
like
it's
important
to
have
as
Regional
hospital
to
have
a
certainly
adequate
amount
of
parking.
I,
obviously
do
agree
with
Commissioners
that
we
need
to
have
as
many
amenities
available
for
multimodal
transportation,
not
just
for
staff,
but
for
visitors
and
patients
as
well.
A
Q
Thank
you
in
response
to
the
questions
that
you
posed,
commissioner,
Meyer.
First
of
all,
I
think
I
would
be
interested
just
given
that
that
a
lot
is
in
process.
It
sounds
like
knowing
if
we
could
possibly
condition
having
the
applicant
coming
back
to
give
a
report
on
the
ultimate
strategies
in
the
future.
I
believe
that
might
be
part
of
the
TDM
plan,
ordinance
that
that
there's
a
report
required
where
there's
some
checking
in
on
the
strategies
after
a
certain
period
of
time,
I,
don't
know
if
it
comes
back
to
the
Planning.
Q
Commission
does
not
okay
well
anyway.
I
would
be
interested
in
a
in
a
follow-up,
because
this
is
a
major
Medical
Institution
that
serves
has
a
huge
public
service
and
huge
public,
good
and
I
think
does
a
lot
for
our
community
and
Beyond
level.
One
trauma
facility
I,
mean
I'm,
so
glad
that
we
have
Hennepin
Healthcare
here
in
downtown,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
us
take
a
great
deal
of
interest
and
in
the
future,
what
of
this
Healthcare
institution?
Q
So
I
I
personally
would
like
to
see
what
you
know
kind
of
an
ongoing
discussion
as
part
of
this
and
as
a
taxpayer
in
Hennepin
County.
So
that
would
be
one
one
thing:
I've
thought
of.
A
All
right,
commissioner
Meyer,
is
your
your
thing
up
or.
N
M
I
I
also
think
you
know,
understanding
that
we
can,
with
the
nine,
is
that
they
can
build
to
it,
based
on
the
research
that
they're
kind
of
completing
makes
sense
to
me,
with
the
variance
because
of
the
helipad
I
think.
My
problem
is
still
just
that
there
was
no
short-term
bike
parking
I.
Think
that
encourages
the
fact
that
visitors
won't
be
able
to
really
have
secure
parking
if
they
want
their.
As
someone
who
uses
that
hospital
system
often
I
like
to
bike
there,
I
live
very
close
by
too,
but
it's
bikable
distance.
M
It's
not
a
walkable
distance
I
think
by
not
including
that
you're
kind
of
doing
a
disservice
to
the
whole,
to
the
vicinity
of
folks.
That
would
would
want
to
use
short-term
bike
parking.
So
I
would,
as
part
of
the
condition
foresight
plan
review,
to
put
in
a
condition
as
part
of
their
tdmp,
to
include
short-term
bike
parking
to
that
facility
for
approval.
R
Thank
you,
Council
chair,
you
know
what
the
on
the
question
of
size,
commissioner,
Meyer
I,
think
you
know.
Potentially
they
could
go
higher.
They
could
put
the
helipad
on
the
new
side
and
have
all
the
clearance
and
we
can
go
up
to
nine
or
ten
stories.
I'm
sure
that's
possible
for
me.
I
think
I
believe
they've
studied
this
and
I
think
keeping
it
consistent
in
size.
R
Keeping
the
existing
helipad
is
a
nice
compromise
for
the
requirements
of
the
facility
now
into
the
future.
I
believe
they've
studied
this.
They
talked
about
this
last
time.
They
were
here
so
an
arbitrary
reduction
I
would
look
at
other
ways
to
encourage,
like
commissioner
marwa
for
other
modes
of
transportation,
but
to
me
both
aesthetically
and
performance,
wise.
The
the
proposal
as
presented
seems
appropriate.
So
say
that.
H
Yeah
so
I'm
wondering
if
the
applicant
would
be
receptive
to
adding
a
condition
to
modify
the
gdmp
so
right
now
you
know
it's
a
if
a
patient's
there
four
times
a
month.
Would
the
applicant
be
receptive
if
there
is
a
condition
to
make
that
for
patients
who
come
twice
a
month.
S
F
Approved
administratively
between
Public,
Works
and
cpad,
and
so
we're
not
debating
the
strategies
that
have
been
selected,
I
think
there
can
be
guidance
given
to
the
applicant
about
looking
into
other
things,
but
we're
talking
about
whole
systems,
policies
and
procedures
and
benefit
packages
to
employees
and
so
I,
don't
think
the
Consulting
team
sitting
here
can.
G
F
This
is
the
assurances
that
we
built
in
with
2040
right
as
to
you
know,
these
are
the
requirements
for
height
for
far
and
then
travel
demand
was
part
of
that
whole
21
ordinance
change.
F
You
know
we
we
wanted
assurances
for
the
public
and
for
the
applicants
to
know
what
they
can
and
can't
do,
and
so
some
of
these
things
you
have
to
trust
staff
and
the
and
the
professional
design
teams
that
are
selected
by
the
applicants
that
we've
work
things
out,
we've
negotiated,
we've
discussed,
you
know,
we've
debated,
we've
come
full
circle
and
we're
you
know
we
have
an
approved
plan,
so
you
know.
A
Good
Conley
and
then
Ford.
O
Thank
you.
So
it
sounds
to
me,
I'm,
going
back
to
the
commissioner's
point
about
the
bicycle
parking
within
this
specific
ramp.
O
I
guess
I
would
want
to
be
clear
about
why
the
specific
space,
if
and
maybe
we
can
get
more
clarification
on
where
there
is
bike
parking,
I
heard
on
one
side
of
the
street
on
the
other
side
of
the
street
in
and
around
the
area,
there's
also
Mass,
there's
Maybe
I,
don't
I'm
not
going
to
put
a
number
on
how
many
Transit
lines
go
through,
but
if
you
live
close
and
want
to
bike
there,
where
are?
Is
there
the
secured
parking
now
right
and
I?
O
Guess
you're
already
evaluating
secured
bike
parking,
just
maybe
not
in
the
specific
building,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
why
this
building
specifically
and
why
not?
O
Yeah,
just
basically
seeking
Clarity
on
why
we
would
need
to
change
the
complete
application
for
secured
parking
specifically
in
this
building.
Is
it
elsewhere?
Are
you
planning
it
elsewhere?
Is
the
consultant
going
to
look
at
the
overall
secured
parking
situation
on
campus
to
be
able
to
resolve
this.
L
So
we
usually
don't
just
identify
without
data
and
understanding
where
people
want
the
parking
it's
best
for
them
to
get
where
they're
going.
We
do
realize
that
this
parking
garage
is
not
Central
to
the
campus
right.
It's
way
on
one
side,
so
you
have
to
travel
about
five
blocks.
If
you
park
your
bike
there
or
go
through
the
tunnels
and
things
where
you
want
to
go
so
as
we
go
through
this
process,
we're
going
to
listen
right,
we're
going
to
understand
we're
going
to
say:
where
is
it
appropriate
to
do
it?
L
We
have
a
large
campus
and
we
can
look
at
that
entire
campus
and
see.
How
do
we
resolve
this?
But
it's
one
of
those
things
too
is.
We
also
know
that
we
have
issues
with
our
existing
Park,
our
bike
parking
right,
where
we
have
security
issues
that
are
there.
People
are
jumping
fences
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
just
completed
that
study
to
say
how
do
we
help
that?
Because
it's
not
just
a
community,
it's
also
the
people
that
are
there
right.
It's
the
people,
do
they
feel
safe
working
their
bike.
L
S
E
Right,
I'm
going
to
move
adoption
of
the
plant,
this
staff
report
and
items
a
of
the
conditional
use
permit,
B
and
C
the
two
variances
and
D
the
site
plan
review
and
put
it
before
us
so
that
if,
if
they
want
to
be
some
actual
amendments
made,
we
can
then
discuss
those.
But
thank
you
all.
A
H
You
know
I
didn't
hear
much
support
for
my
conditions,
so
I
won't
propose
them.
I
do
want
to
say,
though,
like
I,
don't
feel,
there's
been
much
debate
about
these
particular
ones,
because
these
were
like
the
the
TDM
strategies
that
were
approved
were
approved
by
the
by
the
staff
and
they
weren't
part
of
any
official
policy.
So
it's
and
then
that's
why?
H
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
really
scrutinizing
this
in
the
first
place
was
because
this
is
the
as
far
as
I
know,
the
first
time
that
some
of
these
alternative
ways
of
meeting
the
TDM
requirements
are
being
proposed.
I
do
think
you
know
it
is
within
our
domain
to
add
conditions
that
are
relevant
to
the
condition
criteria.
H
So
I
think
we
do
have
that
Authority
if
we
wanted
to
expand
those
conditions
but
having
having
not
heard
support
for
adding
those
I
won't
today,
but
I
am
encouraged
that
the
county
is
is
doing
this
study
and
I'm
going
to
just
really,
you
know,
push
the
county
to
do
as
much
as
possible
to
try
and
make
this
parking
garage
used
as
little
as
possible.
Thank
you.
A
A
friendly
amendment
to
attic
condition,
number
seven
to
item
D
site
plan,
review
I
was
thinking
about
maybe
adding
10
bicycle
racks
on
the
sidewalk
near
the
parking
garage.
I
know
it's
not
secure
bike
parking,
but
maybe
that
would
use
some
concerns.
M
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
adopt
staff
recommendation.
Is
there
any
other
discussion?
Otherwise,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
roll.
A
All
right,
seeing
none,
please
call
the
roll.
B
You
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
Okay
with
that,
commissioner
Alper
aye
Baxley.
T
E
M
This
include
commissioner
Olsen's
amendment
that
she
just
stated:
no,
no.
No.
We
are
we
voting
on
that
separate.
We
didn't
no,
no
okay,
abstain.
H
B
Thank
you
so,
with
that
there's
six
years,
one
Nays.
A
H
I
just
wanted
to
say
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
because
I'll
be
leaving,
but
oh
wanted
to
announce
that
I'd
be
recusing
myself
from
this
vote.
After
having
a
discussion
with
the
lawyer,
the
unique
circumstances
with
my
employment
for
Senator
amorfate,
you
know
they
recommended
that
I
recuse,
so
great.
U
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Peter
Crandall
senior
city
planner,
with
cpad
land,
use
the
project
before
you
is
located
at
1901
26th,
Street,
East,
1860,
28th,
Street,
East
and
2717
Longfellow
Avenue.
U
U
This
is
a
zoning
map
showing
those
existing
parcels
and
then
a
survey
showing
on
the
south
parcel
and
existing
one-story
industrial
building.
That's
currently
vacant
the
former
roof
Depot
building
and
then
on.
The
North
Parcel
is
an
existing
City
street
and
equipment
maintenance
facility,
otherwise
known
as
the
Hiawatha
maintenance
facility.
U
The
project
itself,
the
site
plan
is
is
before
you
hear
with
this,
for
your
the
project
includes
several
new
structures,
in
addition
to
renovation
and
expansion
of
some
of
the
existing
structures
on
site.
So
building
a
is
the
existing
facility
maintenance
offices
on
the
North
End
of
the
site,
the
applicants
proposing
an
expansion
addition
and
renovation
of
that
structure.
U
There's
a
new
tempered
storage
building
on
the
west
side
of
the
site,
a
new
three-story
parking
garage
for
Fleet
and
staff
vehicles
on
the
east
side
of
the
site,
adjacent
to
Hiawatha,
a
new
temperate
storage
and
vehicle
Maintenance
building
in
the
center
portion
of
the
site,
and
then
a
new
water
department
offices
facility
on
the
southern
end
of
the
site,
adjacent
to
28th,
Street
East
site
access
will
be
primarily
from
26th
Street
East
and
28th
Street
East
on
the
north
and
south
end
of
the
site,
with
a
secondary
vehicle
access
point
that
is
existing
on
27th
Street
East,
coming
off
of
Longfellow
Avenue
there
to
the
West.
U
U
Avenue
and
28th
Street
East
for
future
development,
and
then
these
are
some
axonometric
views
of
the
site.
That
I
think
the
applicant
is
going
to
address
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
to
talk
about
the
design.
But
this
shows
you
some
of
those
existing
and
future
planned
facilities
with
a
little
bit
more
dimensionality.
U
And
then
some
renderings
of
the
existing
and
proposed
facility
and
the
exterior
material
expression
there's
a
combination
of
brick
weathered
metal
metal
panel
and
precast
concrete
and
burnished
block
for
proposed
exterior
materials
for
that
proposed
parking
garage
along
Hiawatha.
U
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
perforated
anodized
metal
panel
with
a
architectural
pattern
to
provide
visual
interest
to
that
portion
of
the
project,
and
then
there
is
a
proposed
public-facing
bike
equipment,
maintenance
facility
at
the
corner
of
East,
28th,
Street
adjacent
to
the
Midtown
Greenway,
and
then
this
kind
of
shows
you,
the
applicant's
proposed
mitigation
strategies
for
any
blank
wall
conditions
along
that
Greenway
facing
elevation
of
the
water
Department
offices
structure.
U
I
did
it
include
a
detail
of
the
proposed
parking
counts
to
show
the
breakdown
of
the
proposed
Fleet
and
staff
vehicle
counts,
and
now
that
it's
up
here,
I
can't
read
that.
But.
U
So
it's
a
total
of
888
parking
spaces
with
406
spaces,
reserved
for
fleet
vehicles
and
304
reserved
for
personal
vehicles,
as
well
as
a
number
of
them
guest
parking
and
then
equipment
and
maintenance,
parking
spaces
and
the
various
structures
on
site.
U
So
the
applications
required
are
rezoning
of
that
portion
of
the
site
that
is
currently
zoned
for
i1
to
I2.
To
make
the
entire
site
consistent.
I
will
point
out
that
the
entire
site
will
be
rezoned
as
a
part
of
the
land
use
and
rezoning
study
to
a
production,
mixed-use
zoning
District.
That
would
allow
this
use
as
a
conditional
use,
in
the
same
way
that
the
existing
zoning
on
the
site
does
today,
so
that
doesn't
change
the
fundamental
zoning
characteristics
of
the
site.
U
With
regard
to
this
use,
and
then
two
conditional
use
permits
one
for
an
expansion
to
that
existing
Street
and
equipment
maintenance
facility
and
then
one
for
the
new
proposed
parking
facility
on
the
site.
There
is
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
interior
side
yard
along
the
east
property
line
adjacent
to
the
Midtown
Greenway,
and
that
is
primarily
due
to
the
fact
that
the
greenway
itself
is.
S
U
For
residential
zoning,
which
I
can't
necessarily
explain
why,
but
the
that
would
require
a
reflective
yard
along
that
that
side
yard.
So
the
applicant's
requesting
a
reduction
of
that
from
five
feet
to
zero.
U
A
Thanks
Peter
Commissioners
any
questions
for
staff.
Q
Yeah,
just
a
quick
question
that
north
east
corner
could
could
you
describe
that
or
will
the
applicant
who's
also
the
city
be
describing
that
corner
where
it
says
patio
and.
U
A
V
Thank
you,
Chris
Bacchus
project
manager
and
Terry
part
of
our
design
team
to
that
question,
and
hopefully
you're
highlighting
I'm,
highlighting
the
patio
and
there's
bike
storage
area
and
that
that
is
for
staff.
A
All
right,
thank
you
great.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
continue
with
the
public
hearing
as
a
kind
reminder
we'll
be
limiting
comments
to
two
minutes.
A
person
and
you'll
know
how
much
time
you
have
left
by
the
timer
right
there
and
I
just
want
to
say
we
have
applications
before
us
and
that's
what
we
are
allowed
to
act
on.
A
So
if
you
could
try
to
keep
your
comments
related
to
the
applications
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
the
ability
to
act
on,
and
we
would
appreciate
that
so
I
have
some
of
you
signed
up
here
and
I'm
going
to
call
through
all
of
these
names
and
you
can
come
up
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your
comments.
So
up.
First,
we
have
Kent
Mori.
A
Kent
Mori
here,
no
okay,
maybe
we'll
come
back
I,
think
it's
maybe
Shayna
Thompson
Shea
Thompson.
G
Foreign
I
am
Hardy,
Coleman
and
I
live
at
2619,
Cedar
right
in
the
heart
of
it.
If
you
sit
in
our
living
room
and
we're
just
having
a
conversation,
10
12
15
times
a
day,
you
gotta
shut
up
and
wait
for
the
house
to
stop
a
rumbling.
G
It's
like
Godzilla
is
walking
through
your
neighborhood
all
the
time.
It's
kind
of
disrupting
I,
don't
think
it's
good
for
the
house
and
it's
not
good
for
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
with
lights
on
it.
Like
light
industrial,
Sony
and
City
wants
to
increase
it
to
heavy
Industrial.
G
That's
the
sound!
You
know
we
we,
we
are
citizens
of
this
city
me
my
neighbors.
We
got
kids
on
either
side
of
us.
We
have
kids
up
and
down
the
street.
G
G
S
W
Name
is
Timothy
Hart
I
live
in
the
Hiawatha
neighborhood
and
I'm,
asking
Commissioners
to
not
recommend
this
zoning
and
conditional
use
for
this.
My
just
first
thing
it
sounded
like
there
is
a
land.
W
The
zoning
code
is
getting
updated
in
a
way
that
this
will
become
less
relevant
once
the
city
council
votes
on
that,
so
it
feels
like
this
is
less
of
a
pressing
concerning
could
be
postponed
to
see
what
the
city
council
does
on
that,
but
if
it
is
voted
on
tonight,
I
would
say
to
vote
against
it,
particularly
considering
the
alternative
that
the
community
has
proposed.
That
would
be
a
fantastic
green
investment
and
a
real
tangible
benefit
to
the
residents
and
to
their
future.
I
feel
like
that.
W
The
use
of
this
site
both
is
inconsistent
with
the
goals
of
disparity
reduction
as
well,
as
does
not
maintain
the
goals
of
the
South
Side
green
zone
and
addressing
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
area,
particularly
considering
the
letter
from
Healthcare
professionals
that
the
Seward
vaccine
Equity
project
recently
put
out
speaking
to
the
potential
impacts
of
this
site.
Thank
you.
X
Kip
Hedges
4114
40th,
Avenue,
South,
Longfellow
neighborhood.
To
me
the
the
the
best
argument
against
this,
or
at
least
the
the
strongest
argument
for
postponing,
is
as
Tim
Hart
mentioned.
The
city
council
is
likely
to
act
on
this
fairly
quickly,
I'm
sure
all
of
you
are
aware
on
one
level
or
another
that
this
is
one
of
the
political,
hot
potatoes
of
the
city.
X
Right
now
that
there's
tremendous
tumult
over
the
issue
of
the
urban
farm,
the
the
Water
yard,
Etc
and
there's
a
lot
of
balls
in
the
air,
the
state
legislature
potentially
is
going
to
vote
for
money
to
allow
the
East
Phillips
Urban
Farm
people
to
to
purchase
the
site,
and
it
would
be
who
of
all
of
you,
I
believe
in
the
interest
of
responsible
leadership
to
at
least
delay.
X
Your
decision
on
this
until
some
of
those
balls
have
have
have
come
to
the
ground
or
been
caught
I
to
me,
that's
the
the
the
most
pressing
issue
right
here
is
to
give
us
a
little
more
time.
You
know
just
give
us
a
little
more
time.
Thank
you.
Y
My
name
is
Janet
Court
I
live
at
1216
Powderhorn
tariff.
That's
in
ward,
nine
I,
as
a
elderly
retired
person,
I
volunteer
on
several
of
the
work
groups
that
the
city
has
had
I've
worked
on.
Vision
zero
I
also
worked
on
two
of
the
work
groups
for
the
Minneapolis
energy
and
Equity
plan.
Y
The
goals
of
the
city
have
been
to
reduce
trapped
death.
This
area,
actually
the
very
tiny
area
between
24th
and
28th
street,
is
one
of
the
very
very
worst
portions
of
the
city.
The
city's
goals
are
to
reduce
traffic
in
that
area,
not
to
increase
it
again.
Also,
the
city's
plan
for
energy
and
Equity
is
to
create
safety,
safe
and
healthy
places
for
people
to
live
in
all
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
This
applies
to
East
Phillips,
as
well
as
every
other
section
of
the
city.
Y
This
is
also
a
very
bad
time
to
do
this,
because
there's
a
possibility
of
other
things
being
done
with
that
land
and
the
particular
zoning
change
could
really
restrict
some
of
the
uses
that
that,
if
ebony
acquired
the
property
that
they
would
want
to
use
it
for
and
lastly,
I
want
to
call
again
the
the
health
letter
and
the
need
for
reduction
of
traffic
in
that
area
as
far
as
asthma,
we're
in
the
process
of
actually
qualifying
how
each
truck
transfers
to
how
many
asthma
cases.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
A
All
right,
Patricia,
anger.
Z
Anger
I
live
at
2619,
Cedar,
Avenue
I
used
to
be
a
real
estate
agent.
I
understand
why
the
city
wants
to
have
this
place,
because
this
is
the
best
location
to
get
from
anywhere.
I
lived
in
Downtown
Minneapolis
I
couldn't
go
anywhere,
I
live
at
26,
seater
I
can
get
anywhere
in
the
city.
This
is
a
wonderful
place
to
live,
except
it's
a
beat
up
part
of
the
city.
It's.
Z
Z
Well,
I
guess:
I
I
pick
up
garbage
in
the
neighborhood
and
I've
gone
over
to
that
site
along
Longfellow
and
picked
up
for
I
guess
what
the
city
should
they
are
the
stewards
at
this
time
I
believe
that
property
they
don't
take
good
care
of
it.
Why
should
I
believe
if
they
bring
a
bunch
of
trucks
in
there
they're
going
to
take
better
care
of
it?
We're
a
neighborhood.
Z
We've
got
kids
all
around
us
and
I,
don't
know
if
I
was
dreaming
but
I
believe
I
went
to
a
meeting
with
people
from
the
state
they're
going
to
be
fixing
up
our
section
of
Cedar
and
they
asked
us
for
our
input
on.
What
can
we
do?
What
would
we'd
like
to
see?
Well,
one
of
the
things
certainly
was
not
more
traffic
from
big
trucks.
Z
AA
AA
AA
AA
P
Okay
but
yeah
I'm,
Brian,
halbach
I,
live
on
Longfellow
and
28th
so
directly
across
from
the
roof
Depot.
When
I
look
outside
I,
see
the
roof
Depot
every
day
and
I
got
a
new
job
where
I
work
from
home,
so
I'm
going
to
be
there
24,
7,
365.,
so
yeah.
The
everything
that
will
be
going
on
will
be
affecting
me
non-stop
same
with
my
partner,
who
also
got
a
new
work
from
home
job
and
but
really
we're
kind
of
the
lucky
ones.
P
Because,
although
we're
going
to
be
working
from
home,
the
reason
we're
home
is
because
we
have
these
nice
jobs,
but
the
other
people
that
are
home
all
the
time
are
either
the
elderly,
the
children
or
sick
and
so
they're,
the
ones
that
will
be
affected
by
this
even
more.
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
bring
about
just
as
my
experience
as
a
resident
is
that
there's
there's
a
bad
smell
in
the
neighborhood
from
the
existing
businesses
there
and
any
existing
projects.
P
What
they
either
May
dig
up
from
the
earth
or
additional
diesel
trucks
will
have
a
compounding
effect
on
that.
The
odor
is
actually
something
that
is
addressed
in
the
zoning
lies
the
the
I,
I2
and
i1.
Additionally,
when
I
got
the
letter
about
this
today,
I
said
that
they
wanted
to
rezone
from
I3
light
to
I2
medium.
An
action
that
this
group
can
take
is
I,
don't
think.
P
That's
necessary,
I
think
that
they
can
continue
to
get
conditional
permits
for
what
they
need,
that
the
I3
zone
is
actually
too
permissive
and
will
allow
too
much.
In
fact,
the
the
wording
even
says
that
it'll
allow
adverse
effects
to
the
neighborhood
and
that
the
existing
businesses
that
are
there
are
already
doing
I3
Zone
activities
such
as
asphalt,
rock
and
other
things
in
the
I3
zone,
so
I
think
by
making
all
of
that
I2
it's
too
much,
it'll
it'll,
be
too
broad.
P
A
Thank
you
all
right,
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
two
names
I,
just
to
make
sure
no
one's
here
is
there
Kent
Mori.
A
No
okay
and
Shea
or
Shanae
Thompson,
all
right,
it's
appropriate!
If
people
didn't
sign
up
to
speak,
though
okay,
so
if
there's
anyone
who
wants
to
speak,
who
hasn't
spoken
yet
you
can
come
up
to
the
podium
now
and
actually
might
be
best
to
just
form
a
line.
If
there's
a
few
of
you
and
state
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record
and
go
ahead
with
your
comments.
Thank
you.
AB
AB
AB
Green
zone,
the
alternative
site
where
the
Water
Works
is
currently
located,
can
be
rebuilt
and
updated
with
a
lot
less
taxpayer
money
post.
My
my
request
is
that
postponement
for
the
item
12
and
deny
the
recommendations
that
are
not
within
the
area
of
the
city
ordinance.
A
If
you
who
I,
don't
remember
your
name,
who
just
spoke.
A
If
you
could
sign
in
please
okay
is
there
anyone
else
here
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item?
Yeah
we'll
wait.
C
My
name's
shimra
shy,
I
I
I,
don't
live
in
the
East
Phillips,
but
I've
been
involved
with
this
group.
That's
afp4,
East,
Phillips,
neighborhood,
Institute,
I
actually
live
in
Marcy
homes
or
the
way
out
where
the
dinky
town
is
the
billboard
between
two
but
I
I
I
I
I.
Don't
really
have
anything
else
to
add
much
to
all
the
other
points
if
it
made
it
agree
with
everything.
That's
been
said
about,
you
know
the
environmental
impact
stuff.
C
I
would
just
say
that
one
thing
that
seems
to
come
to
mind
is
that
it
seems
like
the
zoning
change
just
seems
to
be
like.
Maybe
the
developers
are
trying
to
like
nibble
away
yeah
site
or
something
because
of
and
and
you
know,
I'm
not
sure,
if
that
that's
I
don't
know,
if
that's
what
is
going
on,
but
it's
something
that
seems
like
to
me
and
you
know
even
before
they
get
the
thing
in
hole,
and
you
know
so
I
think
that
you
know
that
that,
because
of
that,
I
think
I
tend
to
agree
with.
C
A
A
O
G
E
About
those
the
the
dates
and
I'm
wondering
I,
think
I
saw
January's
a
June
6
13th
day
Somewhere
In
Here
Am
I
Wrong.
Can
we
ask
staff?
What
did
timing
is.
U
Yes,
that's
correct,
so
we
are
required
to
act
on
any
formal
land
use
requests
within
60
days
that
60-day
timeline
can
be
extended
an
additional
60
days.
So
June
13th
is
the
60
day
window.
So
we
would
be
able
to
go
60
days
beyond
that
without
needing
the
applicant
to
Grant
the
city,
some
kind
of
special
permission
to
extend
the
timeline
and.
A
Q
I
personally
would
prefer
to
move
to
deny
one
of
the
conditional
use
permits
and
then,
if
that
fails,
maybe
then
consider
commissioner
Conley's
motion
if,
if
that
might
be
possible,
chair
Olson.
A
Okay,
commissioner
Alper,
would
you
like
to
talk
about
what
your.
Q
So
let
me
start
just
by
saying
that
conditional
use
permits
are
are
or
uses
that
could
have
potential
impacts,
so
they
come
before
us
to
be
evaluated
further.
So
it's
totally
within
our
purview
to
evaluate
a
conditional
use,
permit
I
believe
unless
staff
tells
us
otherwise
to
evaluate
it
and
potentially
deny
it,
and
so
that
is
really
what
I
would
like
to
put
before
us
tonight
parking
garages.
Q
They
are
a
conditional
use
in
all
zoning
districts
and
we
have
an
application
before
us
for
one
of
them
I
the
first
finding
by
staff
that
the
establishment
and
operation
of
I
I
believe
that
the
establishment
and
operation
of
the
conditional
use
this
parking
garage
will
be
detrimental
or
in
danger.
The
public
health
safety,
Comfort
or
general
welfare
welfare.
Q
The
high
Injury
Network
of
streets,
2022,
High
Injury
Network,
includes
a
high
concentration
of
fatal
crashes
and
serious
injuries
on
all
the
major
streets
that
bound
this
site.
That
includes
Hiawatha,
28th,
26th
and
Cedar.
The
vision,
zero
website
for
the
city
states,
Native
American
residents-
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
traffic
deaths.
This
is
home
to
little
Earth,
and
this
is
directly
from
the
cities,
the
the
applicant
and
the
reviewer
of
this.
This
application
before
us
might
I
add.
This
is
directly
from
the
city's
safety
data
website.
Q
Also,
crashes
are
concentrated
in
neighborhoods,
with
people
of
color
and
people
of
lower
incomes,
again
from
the
city's
safety
webpage
and
most
sadly,
I
want
to
share
a
story
with
you
from
just
12
days
ago
that
a
person
walking
through
the
intersection
of
Cedar
and
28th
was
struck
and
killed
by
a
large
vehicle
going
West
on
28th
Street
and
turning
left
onto
Cedar.
This
was
a
person
walking
his
name
and
I
want
to
share
this
with
you
today.
His
name
was
Josue
gotes
Peres.
Q
He
was
27
years
old
and
he
left
behind
three
kids
and
a
wife
in
Mexico
this.
This
is
the
type
of
harm
that
is
being
done.
Okay
and
I
want
to
be
clear.
This
is
exactly
the
same
routes
that
fleet
vehicles
will
take
from
this
facility
exiting
on
28th
and
turning
on
to
one
of
our
high
Injury
Network
streets
on
the
28th,
there's
a
GoFundMe
campaign
out
there
to
help
his
burial
and
body
being
flown
back
to
Mexico,
and
this
happened
on
April
26th
2023
12
days
ago.
Q
So
really
I,
guess
the
motion
and
I
want
to
say
today
was
a
groundbreaking
for
the
beeline.
Q
This
is
this
project
is
not
consistent
with
our
comprehensive
plan
and
I'm,
so
those
were
the
the
first
finding
and
then
related
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
is
not
consistent
with
policy
16
environmental
impacts
of
Transportation,
which
was
cited
in
the
staff
report,
but
I
do
not
believe
that
it.
It
meets.
It's
page
139
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
point
B,
increase,
availability
and
attractiveness
of
public
transportation
and
non-modorized
modes
and
continue
to
disincentive,
disincentivize,
driving
and
driving
alone.
Q
As
far
as
I
can
tell
they're,
building
this
garage
will
do
exactly
the
opposite.
Also:
policy,
26,
Vision,
zero,
like
I,
said,
eliminate
fatalities
and
severe
injuries.
This
this
this
will
increase.
Q
This
will
increase
fatalities
and
severe
crashes
in
our
city
and
then
last
but
not
least,
which
I've
managed
to
lose
policy.
67,
61,
environmental
justice
and
green
zones
and
I
want
to
read,
read
to
you
from
that
and
say
it's
because
these
three
taken
together
that
I
believe
that
we
should
deny
the
conditional
use
permit
before
us
today.
It's
environmental
justice
and
green
zones
establish
environmental
justice,
Frameworks
for
policy
resources
and
Regulation,
and
I
received
the
eaw
at
5,
30
or
4.
30.
Q
Excuse
me
today
and
I
read
through
the
pages
that
we
received
as
fast
as
I
could,
and
it
stated
that
that
the
environmental
impacts
of
Transportation
are
supposed
to
be
taken
as
an
average
across
the
city.
But
I
would
argue
that
policy
61
that
this
disproportionately
burdens
this
neighborhood
with
this
parking
facility
and
concentrating
the
fleet
vehicles
at
this
site.
Q
Fair
treatment
from
page
199
of
the
comprehensive
plan
means
that
no
group
of
people
should
bear
a
disproportionate
share
of
the
negative
environmental
consequences
resulting
from
industrial,
governmental
and
Commercial
operations,
or
the
execution
of
federal
state,
local
and
tribal
programs
and
policies.
The
concept
of
fair
treatment
includes
the
equitable
distribution
of
environmental
resources
and
burden,
and
this
facility
does
exactly
the
opposite
if
we
are
to
Grant
this
conditional
use
permit.
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
I
guess.
Make
a
motion
which
are
awesome
is.
AA
Q
My
rights,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
the
Point
C
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
parking
facility.
Second,.
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
we
will
discuss
Hillary.
What
type
of
findings
would
be
necessary
for
us
to
make
to
deny
conditional
use,
permit
item
C.
F
Q
That
it
will,
you
want
the
policy
numbers
first,
those
are
policy,
16,
point
B
policy,
26
on
Vision,
zero
and
policy,
61
environmental
justice
and
green
zones,
and
it's
the
combination
of
those
three
that
that
is
why
I
believe
this
I'm
making
this
motion
and
did
you
need
the
first,
the
first
finding
that
it
would
be
The,
Establishment
and
operation
of
the
conditional
use
will
be
detrimental
or
endanger
your
public
health,
safety,
Comfort
or
general
welfare.
Q
N
F
Right
go
ahead
or
commercial
Opera
when
you
started.
Yes,
your
motion,
the
first
time
that
you
had
some
sentences
that.
Q
Q
Q
This
proposed
parking
facility
is
bounded
by
2022
High
Network
streets,
including
Hiawatha,
Cedar,
28th
and
26th,
and
a
the
largest
urban
population
of
Native
American
residents
in
Minneapolis,
who
are
disproportionately.
Q
F
F
If
the
okay
I'm
just
going
to
state
that,
if
we
are
going
to
continue
some,
we
should
continue
all
we.
If
we're
going
to
deny
we,
we
need
to
act
on
all
of
the
applications
or
we
continue
all
of
the
applications.
We
can't
piecemeal
them
because
they're
all
running
on
a
clock
together
and
it
gets
too
complicated
and
we
don't
we.
You
know
we
can
currently
review
everything.
So
we
can't
pull
things
apart
and
approve
some
tonight
and
continue
other
things
so
collectively
the
commission
should
decide
which
path
you're
going
down.
F
A
N
Q
This
is
the
one
I
feel
or
we
can
do
it
all
together.
Whatever
I
don't
know,
all.
A
Right,
commissioner,
Conley
and
Mar
was
had
hers
up
for
a
while
too.
F
S
F
A
A
All
right,
commissioner,
marwa.
M
Yes,
hi,
my
question
is
for
staff:
can
you
just
clarify
a
little
bit
about
the
timeline
we
heard
with
our
the
rezoning
study
that
we
approved
going
to
Council
on
May
16th
right
that
that
would
change
what's
in
site
plan
review.
So
then,
if
we
were
to
postpone
or
delay
this
decision,
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
timeline
wise
which
what
could
possibly
change
on
the
16th,
based
on
what
we're
seeing.
U
U
The
new
zoning
on
the
site
is
a
production,
mixed-use
District,
which
allows
a
street
and
equipment
maintenance
facility
as
a
conditional
use,
in
the
same
way
that
the
existing
zoning
on
the
site
does
today,
so
that
substantive
zoning
change
doesn't
really
change
the
realities
of
the
site
in
terms
of
what
is
allowed
and
not
allowed
by
zoning.
The
timing
issue
I
think
that
we
would
have
is
that
we're
rezoning
to
a
district,
the
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
rezone
to
a
district
under
the
current
zoning.
U
We're
not
accepting
applications
after
this
meeting,
essentially
for
that
code
because
of
the
way
that
the
timing
works
out
with
the
zoning
change,
and
so
we
would
have
to
wait
essentially
to
entitle
the
project
potentially
until
that
effective
date
in
July,
because
we'd
have
to
wait
for
the
new
zoning
to
be
in
place
because
there
isn't
time
for
this
rezoning
application
to
move
through
the
process
of
approval
by
city
council,
signature
Etc.
So
that's
the
only
timing
issue.
A
You
all
right,
it
looks
like
commissioner
Albert
did
you
have
something
else,
commissioner?
Conley
did
you
have
anything
else
right
now?
No,
that's!
Okay!
All
right,
I'm,
not
seeing
anyone
else,
so
we
could
call
the
roll
on
commissioner
alper's
motion
for
item
c.
A
conditional
use
permit,
denying
it
based
on
the
findings
that
she
established.
Is
there
any
more
discussion
before
we
do
that.
A
I
guess
I'll
just
say
this:
isn't
the
first
stop
for
this
application
and
it's
certainly
not
the
last
stop
I'm
having
a
hard
time
with
this
specific
finding,
because
we
just
approved
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
parking
garage,
the
same
kind
of
additional
use
permit
downtown.
So
if
we're
associating
all
parking
facilities
with
traffic
deaths,
it
seems
It's
Tricky
for
me,
but.
E
Yeah
so
mad
imprisonment,
the
the
as
I
recall
the
thing
we
approved
earlier
reduced.
The
number
of
vehicles
parked
there
right.
N
A
All
right,
commissioner,
Alper,
okay,
all
right,
I'm,
not
seeing
any
more
discussion,
so
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
roll.
Q
Hate
going
first,
even
though
I
made
the
motion
so
yes
to
denial,.
O
Would
like
to
move
that
we
postpone
this
to
the
final
June
CPC
meeting
of
Tuesday
June
26th,
and
we've
heard
that
that
would
not
mean
that
the
city
would
need
to
push
back
it's
within
that
60-day
timeline.
Okay,.
A
Is
there
a
second
on
that
motion?
Sure?
Okay,
we
have
a
second
discussion,
commissioner,
marwa
yeah.
O
Please,
thank
you.
So
there's
a
number
of
moving
Parts
happening,
there's
Court,
there's
other
things
happening
with
the
city
and
I
believe
that
if
we
were
to
wait
until
June
26th,
that
would
give
us
more
time
to
understand
all
that's
going
on.
Lots
of
things
could
have
happened
and
been
signed,
sealed
and
delivered
by
then
I
just
feel
like
there's
too
many
moving
parts
right
now
and
since
we
do
have
the
time
frame
of
June
26
to
work
with
I
feel
like
that's
a
good
next
meeting
to
bring
this
back
before
us.
E
That
and
president
that
there
was
reference
to
the
requests
for
State
money
for
profitable
Urban
Farm
here
and
the
they
will
not
adjourn
until
approximately
May
22nd
I
recall
so,
but
you
you
would
hear
what
happened
there
too.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
question
for
staff
if
this
or
when,
if
we
postpone-
and
this
comes
back,
the
public
hearing
will
have
taken
place
today
or
okay.
So
we
closed
the
public
hearing
on
this
item,
but
we
could
act
on
it
at
a
later
date.
Okay,
all
right.
Let's
see,
commissioner
marwa.
M
U
The
current
timeline
and
with
the
applications
in
front
of
us,
we
would
need
to
extend
the
approval
window
for
another
60
days
in
order
to
consider
making
an
action
at
a
later
date,
but
we
could
do
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
U
I,
don't
have
that
rationale
we,
as
planners
in
cped,
are
just
responding
to
the
application
in
the
same
way
that
we
would
any
other
application
in
terms
of
the
timeline
okay,
but
the
applicant
could
potentially
speak
to
that
if
the
commission
wanted
to
hear
from
them,
but.
A
V
So
if
I
can
I
think
pretty
much,
no
matter
what
path
that
we're
on
would
require
us
to
stop
here.
So
it's
a
part
of
the
process
kind
of
no
matter
what
happens,
what
the
outlot,
with
the
potential
it'll
all
need
to
come
through
this
process.
T
So
my
other
question
then,
would
be
I
know
we
don't
like
to
play
around
in
hypotheticals,
but
let's
say,
for
instance,
that
there
is
a
legislative
decision
made
to
fund
the
request
made
by
the
neighborhood
association
here.
What
our
actions
today
in
a
way
impact
that
request
either
the
ask
or
the
outcome.
Well.
V
It
and
I
can't
speak
to
that
realm,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
it
would
need
to
get
rezoned
regardless
yeah.
If
that
kind
of
better
feeds,
I'm,
not
sure
the
zoning
and
the
needs
of
that
process.
That
would
again
almost
go
back
a
little
bit,
but
it
would
need
to
get
rezoned
and
put
together
regardless
yep.
F
Was
just
the
clerk
and
I
were
just
talking
that
you
know,
there's
May
22nd
is
our
next
Planning
Commission,
so
that
would
not
be
an
ideal
date
to
pick,
but
there
is
the
June
12th
funding
commission
date
as
well,
so
I,
just
that's.
What
we
were
discussing
was
just
looking
at
dates
on
a
calendar,
because
we
need
to
choose
a
date.
You
do
need
to
choose
the
date.
O
26
is
the
last
meeting
in
June
and
I
figure.
That
gives
us
plenty
of
time
and
it's
within
the
staff
says
that
they
can.
A
A
Right
so
we
have
a
motion
to
continue
these
items
to
the
June
26th
meeting
of
the
City
Planning
Commission.
Any
other
discussion.
Seeing
Nano
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
roll
Alper.
N
R
B
A
F
Yes,
one
second
place:
we
do
have
a
command
the
whole
meeting,
this
Thursday.
We
will
start
it
here
at
4
30.
We
do
have
two
projects
on
the
agenda
and
then
we
will
be
retiring
at
5,
45
or
continuing
or
concluding.
Excuse
me
at
5
45
walking
over
to
the
public
service
building
for
the
funding
commission
click
committee
meeting
that
starts
at
six.
A
If
you
guys,
could
please
be
quiet
while
we
finish
up
here,
thank
you
or
take
your
conversations
to
the
hall.
We.
F
Do
have
a
minimum,
we
do
have
a
quorum
that
we
need
to
meet
at
five,
because
this
is
a
body
of
the
Planning
Commission,
not
of
the
committee
of
the
whole.
So
if
you
are
not
going
to
be
there
on
Thursday
and
I
believe
we've
heard
the
only
commission
that
we
know
of
that
won't
be
here.
As
commissioner
marwa
is
please
let
us
know,
so
we
don't
show
up
to
the
click
joint
meeting
and
not
have
a
quorum.
I.
Think,
last
time
we
had
three.
F
A
I
think,
that's
it
all
right
anything
else
from
Commissioners
before
we
adjourn,
if
not
and
without
objection,
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
Our
next
regular
meeting
of
the
Planning
Commission
will
be
Monday
May
22nd.
A
A
We
will
need
five,
so
our
next
Committee
of
the
whole
meeting
will
also
be
this
Thursday
May
11th
at
4
30
here
in
the
chambers.
Thank
you.
Everybody.