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A
Good
afternoon,
I
called
to
order
the
February
28
2023
regular
meeting
of
the
Minneapolis
Heritage
preservation
commission.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Barbara
Howard
and
I
am
serve
as
chair
of
the
commission.
Just
a
reminder
to
please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
electronic
devices
and
to
speak
clearly
into
the
microphones,
whether
you're
speaking
at
the
diocese
or
giving
testimony
today.
Would
the
clerk
please
call
the
rules
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
B
C
B
A
A
Number
four
730
Washington
Avenue,
North,
ward
3.
This
application
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Item
number
four
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
Unless
someone
wants
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
item
number
five
113
First
Avenue
North,
Ward
3..
This
application
is
also
for
certificate
of
appropriateness,
and
the
item
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
Unless
someone
wants
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
staff
recommendations.
A
Item
number
six
1100
4th
Street
Southeast,
ward.
3.
This
item
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
This
item
will
be
discussed
with
the
public
hearing
item
number:
seven,
the
engagement
project
for
Minneapolis,
African-American,
historic
and
cultural
context.
Study
the
final
deliverables
item
number
seven
will
be
discussed
so
the
proposed
agenda.
The
consent
agenda
will
include
the
following.
Two
items:
item
number:
four:
seven:
thirty
Washington
Avenue
northward,
three
item
number
five:
113
First,
Street,
North,
ward,
3.
Is
there
any
opposition
from
Commissioners
to
the
staff
recommendations
for
these
two
items?.
A
I
want
to
verify.
We
have
Greg
Cardinal
on
the
public
comment
sign-in
sheet
for
this
item.
Will
they
want
to
speak
related
to
this
item?
You
will
Okay
so
not
now
we'll
we'll
take
item
four
off
the
consent
agenda,
then
so
that
you
can
speak.
C
Madam
chair
and
at
that
point
will
I
be
able
to
ask
Mr
scalucky
two
questions.
A
So
is
there
any
one
in
the
public
that
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
to
item
number
five.
A
Hearing
no
opposition
to
placing
item
number
five
on
consent.
We
will
approve
that
consent
item
in
one
motion
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
the
following
items
will
have
staff
presentation,
public
comment
and
commission
discussion
in
action:
item
number:
four
730,
Washington,
Avenue,
northward,
3
and
item
number,
six
Eleven
Hundred,
Fourth,
Street,
Southeast,
Ward
3.
A
A
A
Our
next
order
of
business
will
be
to
approve
the
minutes
from
our
January
31st
2023
meeting
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
on
those
minutes
the
members
absent
should
include
Commissioners,
bjornberg,
booty,
Dreyer
and
Nystrom
they're,
all
being
shown
as
presidents
at
the
top
of
those
minutes,
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
with
that
correction
for
the
members
absent
sampled,
so
moved.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Sand
bold.
Is
there
a
second
Melbourne.
A
A
But
the
minutes
are
approved
with
those
four
abstentions,
so
before
I
open
the
public
hearing
to
public
comments,
let
me
summarize
the
process.
First,
we're
going
to
act
on
that
consent
agenda
that
we
just
set
once
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved.
The
commission
is
done
with
those
items
and
applicants
may
contact
planning
staff
tomorrow
about
next
steps.
After
the
consent
agenda
item
is
approved,
we'll
take
any
all
of
the
remaining
agenda
items
in
order
planning
staff
present.
A
A
A
If
you
have
happen
to
have
any
materials
to
hand
out
also,
please
give
those
to
the
clerk
so
that
they
can
be
distributed
to
the
commission
and
entered
into
the
public
record
after
the
public
comments
are
complete.
I'll
close,
the
public
hearing
and
Commissioners
will
deliberate
and
act
on
the
applications
before
us.
A
F
A
A
G
G
Good
afternoon,
chair,
Howard
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Erin
K
and
I'm,
a
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
the
Department
of
Community
planning
and
economic
development
or
cped
I'm.
Here
today
to
present
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
application
for
the
property
located
at
730,
Washington
Avenue
North.
It
is
part
of
the
Minneapolis
Warehouse
historic
district,
the
boundary
of
which
runs
along
the
northeast
side
of
the
subject.
Parcel
staff
has
not
received
any
public
comments
about
this
project.
G
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
new
rear
Edition
for
Resident
access
to
the
building
from
the
adjacent
parking
lot
at
715,
2nd,
Street,
North,
so
you'll
see
on
this
aerial
view,
the
building
in
question
is
called
the
else
warehouse
and
then
that
parking
lot
is
to
the
north.
Although
this
adjacent
parcel
is
part
of
the
project,
it
is
not
part
of
this
application
because
it
falls
outside
of
the
Minneapolis
Warehouse
historic
district.
G
G
G
And
here's
a
plan
view
this
Edition
will
contain
a
stairwell
and
an
elevator.
Its
design
is
contemporary
and
compatible
with
the
historic
district.
It
will
be
minimally
visible
from
the
district
and
the
public
right-of-way
and
ensure
the
district's
continued
integrity
staff
finds
that
the
materials
are
differentiated
from
the
subject
building,
while
also
maintaining
compatibility
with
that
brick
texture.
It
is
also
consistent
with
several
preservation
policies
in
the
Minneapolis
2040
comprehensive
plan.
The
recommended
motion
is
the
Heritage
preservation.
G
Commission
approves
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
new
rear
addition
for
Resident
access
at
the
property
located
at
730
Washington
Avenue
North
in
the
Minneapolis
Warehouse
historic
district
subject
to
the
standard
conditions.
This
concludes
my
presentation
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
questions.
H
H
We,
as
is
mentioned,
we
own
elsewhere
house
and
managed
property
as
well,
residential
and
mixed-use
building
in
the
north
loop.
The
property
also
owns
the
parking
lot
just
to
the
north.
Currently,
there's
not
a
direct
access
between
that
side
of
the
building
and
the
parking
lot
currently
on
that
parking
is
contracted
out
for
those
in
the
neighborhood.
Our
goal,
which
you
know,
is
the
the
purpose
of
essentially
purchasing.
H
That
lot
was
to
allow
our
residents
to
park
there
with
surface
parking
made
accessible
to
them
and
because
of
how
that
area
is
set
up
and
all
the
streets.
It's
not
very
easy
to
access
from
the
you
know
front
entrance
along
Washington
of
the
building.
You
really
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
either
stoplight
along
Washington
and
go
kind
of
all
the
way
around
the
block,
and
so
our
goal,
with
with
this
proposal,
is
to
create
a
secure.
H
You
know
fobbed
entrance
for
our
residents.
It
would
be,
as
is
mentioned,
a
small
structure
just
at
the
back
of
the
building.
You'll.
Be
slightly
visible
from
the
street
on
second
on
the
other,
you
know
Northern
side
of
the
parking
lot
and
it'll
allow
us
to
secure
that
entrance.
Allow
residents
to
come
in
through
that
door,
go
down
into
the
building
and
have
easy
access
to
that
parking.
So
please,
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
for
me.
H
A
A
I
Name
is
Greg
Cardinal
I'm
the
facilities
director
for
the
Star
Tribune
at
800,
North
First,
Street,
Star
Tribune
owns
a
parking
lot
immediately
adjacent
to
this
project
at
803,
North,
2nd,
Street,
Star
Tribune
does
not
oppose
the
project.
We
only
want
it
to
be
known
that
any
contractors
do
not
access
our
parking
lot
without
a
signed
access
agreement.
I
can
get
a
copy
of
that
to
Jessica.
A
J
F
F
A
K
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair,
Howard
and
good
afternoon
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Rob
scalecki
senior
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
cped
today,
I'm
presenting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
application
for
the
property
located
at
1100,
4th
Street
Southeast
in
the
University
of
Minnesota
Greek
letter,
Chapter,
House,
historic
district.
K
The
HPC
recently
heard
and
denied
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
on
September,
28
2022
by
the
same
applicants
and
Property
Owners.
So
the
previous
application
proposed
removal
of
12
historic
double
hung
wood
window
systems,
including
frames
at
the
basement
level
on
all
elevations
of
the
property,
with
the
exception
of
the
windows
that
exist
on
the
North
elevation,
which
faces
4th
Street,
Southeast
and
those
who
are
prepared
to
those
were
proposed
to
be
repaired
and
have
metal
grates
installed
over
the
openings.
K
The
applicants
had
planned
to
infill
all
openings
at
the
basement
level,
with
glass
block
excluding
those
two
that
I
mentioned
on
the
4th
Street
Southeast
side,
which
were
again
proposed
for
repair
after
the
Heritage
preservation
commission's
denial
of
the
previous
application.
The
applicant
team
did
follow
up
with
staff
and
began
discussions
to
submit
another
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
revised,
a
revised
scope
of
work
that
would
address
some
of
the
comments
by
the
HPC
as
well
as
staff.
K
The
applicants
have
submitted
photo
evidence
and
have
a
detailed
assessment
to
address
the
existing
window
conditions,
which
show
varying
levels
of
deterioration
that
are
present
at
the
property's
windows.
The
new
application
includes
survey
and
repair
treatments
planned
for
all
other
windows
at
the
building,
so
this
addresses
treatment
plans
for
each
of
the
building's
76
window.
Openings.
K
The
applicants
are
proposing
to
remove
and
excuse
me,
the
applicants
are
proposing
to
remove
the
remaining
historic
materials
of
10
wood,
double
hung,
sash
windows,
including
their
frames
at
the
basement
or
half
story
level
of
non-primary
elevations
of
the
building.
So
these
are
the
South
and
the
East
elevations
that
do
not
face
streets.
K
The
applicant
to
note
that
eight
of
these
windows
are
covered
up
and
also
that
there
are
four
that
are
missing
entirely
basement
level
windows
at
the
north
and
west,
which
are
the
primary
elevations,
will
be
retained
and
repaired
with
a
protective
storm
window
installed
over
those
openings,
and
you
can
see
an
example
of
one
of
the
north
elevation
Windows
here
on
the
right
and
then
compared
to
the
original
Lindstrom.
Drawing
of
the
interior
of
a
window
of
that
type.
K
The
applicants
have
also
submitted
a
numbering
system
in
their
application
materials
to
label
specific
prescribed
treatments
for
each
of
the
properties
window,
openings
on
a
scale
of
one
to
five,
which
you
can
actually
switch
to
that
I
believe
I
had
that
in
here,
somewhere,
I
guess:
I
do
not
I,
don't
know
it's
right.
There
I'm
sorry
right
on
on
the
right,
I'm
used
to
seeing
it
condensed
in
my
own
staff
report.
So
each
each
item
is
detailed
there
for
the
treatments.
So
this
includes
one
routine
maintenance.
K
So
the
Department
of
Community
planning
and
economic
development
has
analyzed
the
application
to
repair
and
replace
windows
at
the
property
located
at
1100,
a
Fourth
Street
Southeast
in
the
University
of
Minnesota
Greek
letter
Chapter
House
historic
district
based
on
the
following
findings
and
I
will
focus
on
the
findings
under
the
district's
design
guidelines.
So
that
would
be
the
third
section.
K
The
proposal
to
replace
historic
window
systems
in
the
semi-basement
openings
with
glass
block
does
not
meet
the
design
guidelines
for
Windows,
since
glass
block
is
not
recognized
as
a
window
by
preservation,
staff,
glass
block,
infill
does
not
appear
to
be
necessary
and
similar
scales
of
window
removal
and
glass
block
infill
have
not
been
considered
in
the
past
for
other
locally
designated
properties
in
the
Marcy
homes.
Neighborhood.
K
K
The
applicants
have
also
included
information
in
their
application
to
show
that
many
of
the
non-primary
elevation
basement
window.
Opening
windows
are
in
Port
condition
where
repair
would
not
achieve
the
desired
outcomes
for
those
non-promic
primary
elevation
basement
windows
when
compared
to
replacement,
given
the
over
a
limited
scope
of
the
planned
window,
replacements
at
the
property,
the
condition
of
the
non-primary
elevation
windows
and
their
placement
in
less
visible
locations
when
compared
to
Street
facing
windows.
K
So,
for
example,
you'll
see
here
an
elevation
drawing
based
on
the
original
elevations
of
a
street-facing
window,
and
this
is
the
other
on
11th
Avenue
Southeast,
and
then
you
can
see
here
in
the
South
or
the
Southwest
elevation
which
is
non-primary.
Has
the
basement
windows
proposed
to
be
in
fill
with
glass
block
their
treatment
category
five.
K
So
with
that,
the
Department
of
Community
planning
and
economic
development
recommends
that
the
Heritage
preservation
commission
adopts
staff
findings
for
the
property
located
at
11
1100
4th
Street
Southeast
in
the
University
of
Minnesota
Greek
letter,
Chapter,
House,
historic
district
and
recommended
the
Heritage
preservation.
Commission
approves
the
repair
and
replacement
of
windows
at
the
property
located
at
1100
4th
Street
Southeast
in
the
University
of
Minnesota
Greek
letter,
Chapter,
House,
historic
district
subject
to
the
following
conditions.
K
The
first
is
at
the
basement
level
windows
on
the
non-primary,
so
the
South
and
the
East
elevations
shall
be
replaced
with
new
windows
to
match
the
glazing,
operability
and
profile
of
the
historic
windows.
New
sash
shall
be
wood
or
metal
and
be
painted
or
baked
enamel
finish
and
shall
duplicate
the
historic
models,
including
the
division
of
lights,
and
the
second
condition
is
that
repair
and
select
replacement
of
Windows
shall
be
documented
to
staff
for
and
submitted
to
staff
for
review.
K
During
the
process,
the
applicant's
shall
show
shall
work
with
staff
to
ensure
treatments
are
finalized
and
recorded,
and
the
final
two
conditions
of
approval
are
standard
conditions
of
approval
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
I'm
available
as
staff
to
take
any
questions,
but
I
do
understand
that
the
applicant
and
property
representatives
are
here
as
well.
Thank.
A
C
K
Commissioner
Melbourne
that's
a
good
question:
you
can
find
glass
block
in
historic
districts
in
the
city,
most
of
the
time
that
was
done
prior
to
District's
designation.
A
landmarks
designation
I
am
not
aware
of
any
design
guidelines
that
allow
for
glass
block
replacement
in
the
city.
A
L
I
can't
both
see
you
with
my
glasses
on
and
read
so.
Forgive
me,
commissioners.
Good
evening.
My
name
is
Tamara
Halverson
I'm,
the
historical
consultant
I'm
with
pigeon
Consulting
at
2395,
University
Avenue
in
St
Paul
we've
been
working
with
Kappa
Ada
Kappa,
Alumni
Association.
This
is
Robert
to
develop
a
solution
for
what
is
the
ongoing
vandalism
at
the
ground
level
Windows,
as
we
discussed
when
we
presented
in
September,
the
proximity
to
a
large
Sports
facility
has
created
different
traffic
patterns
that
result
in
these
windows
being
regularly
kicked
in
and
vandalized.
L
This
is
a
co-ed
fraternity
house
that
houses
college
students
and
and
the
fraternities
trying
to
find
a
solution
to
safely
manage
their
ground
level
window.
Vandalism
that
is
creating
both
I
mean
thermal
efficiencies,
are
an
issue,
but
both
safety
issues
and
access
to
the
facility
through
Vermin,
particularly
at
the
secondary
elevations,
that
we're
asking
you
to
reconsider
our
application
for
those
secondary
allegations
line
up
against
a
kitchen
service
spaces,
including
the
boiler
room,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
access
for
vermin.
L
So
we
wanted
to
ask
the
commission
to
reconsider
our
application
as
submitted
as
Rob
noted.
We
were
here
in
September
and
we
took
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
and
suggestions
that
the
commission
made
to
heart,
and
you
see
that
in
the
application
in
front
of
you,
the
commission
indicated
that
it
would
be
helpful
at
the
time
of
that
application.
The
upper
level
windows
were
considered
a
second
scope
of
work.
We
submitted
understanding
that
we
would
follow
up
and
come
in
with
another
application.
L
Commissioners
indicated
it
would
be
helpful
to
understand
how
we
would
treat
those
upper
level
windows,
so
we
took
the
fall
to
assess
their
condition
and
develop
a
repair
plan,
and
that
is
included
in
the
application
before
you.
In
addition
to
the
initial
application,
had
security
bars
at
4th,
we
removed
those,
and
we
followed
the
commissioner's
suggestion
that
we
adopt
shatterproof
storm
windows
at
4th
and
11th
Street
and,
as
we
went
through
all
of
our
notes,
4th
and
11th
Street.
L
Having
will
proceed
with
custom
swords
with
polycarbonate
glazing
and
then
the
third
thing
that
we
considered
as
we
revise
the
application,
is
that
several
Commissioners
noted
that
they
felt
that
glass
block
would
be
better
suited
for
the
secondary
elevations
that
are
not
easily
visible
and
that's
why
we
kept
them
in
the
application,
because
we
did
hear
encouragement
that
it
was
possible
to
explore
that
treatment
if
we
retained
or
we
can
kept,
that
to
the
secondary
elevations.
We've
adopted
all
of
those
recommendations
in
this
application
and
that's
what
you
have
before
you
do.
A
A
N
I
didn't
see
you
down
there.
No,
this
is
fine.
This
is
good.
I
just
came
today,
I'm
very,
very
sensitive
to
the
point
that
they
they
did
and
first
of
all,
it
was
a
great
staff
report,
and
we
have
talked
about
this
so
I
appreciate
what
you
have
done
as
a
staff
and
to
help
move
this
project
along,
but
I'm
here
today
to
advocate
for
the
glass
block
windows,
I
I
live
in
that
area.
N
In
fact,
I
have
put
glass
black
windows
in
my
own
home,
I
live
in
Northeast,
and
it's
it's
a
different
world
than
now
and
and
the
fact
of
that
it's
a
safety
factor
for
this
organization.
I'd
just
like
to
have
you
consider
that,
as
you
go
with
your
discussion,
so
that's
why
I
came
in
today
to
just
listen
and
learn
a
little
bit
more.
Thank
the
staff
for
the
the
good
report,
but
also
ask
the
Commissioners
to
consider
allowing
glass
block
for
the
safety
purposes.
Thank
you.
A
A
C
C
If,
if
they
were
asking
about
well,
first
of
all,
I'll
say
the
issue
of
security.
It
I'm
not
gonna
I'm,
not
talking
speaking
to
that
at
all,
because
I
I
agree
with
Mr
scalucky,
there's
other
ways
to
deal
with
security,
but
I
think
under
the
as
the
question
of
is
glass
block
appropriate
or
not
I.
Don't
have
problems
with
it
because
it
is
a
it
is
not
the
primary
facade
of
the
building
and
if
we're,
to
allow
other
interventions
on
non-primary
facades
of
buildings
that
don't
unreasonably
bar
them
or
destroy
them.
C
I,
don't
think
infilling
with
glass
block
is
an
unreasonable
request,
especially
given
that
there
is
an
issue
with
safety
that
they're
trying
to
address
so
I
would
support
striking
the
prohibition
on
the
glass
block
windows
in
the
staff
recommendation.
O
So
I
will
just
start
out
by
saying
I
remembered
this
when
it
came
across
our
table,
I
was
like
okay
I.
Remember
some
of
the
comments
and
I
appreciate
going
over
that
again
and
I
think
that
for
me
it
is
really
helpful
to
see
a
as
a
package
of
a
whole
to
sort
of
understand.
O
Okay,
there
are
lots
of
Windows
that
we're
talking
about
and
lots
of,
different
treatment
approaches
to
it
and
I
think
that,
from
my
perspective,
that
really
makes
it
a
stronger
argument
to
talk
about
the
glass
block
in
in
the
select
areas.
So
I
would
also
advocate
for
striking
condition.
One.
E
Thanks
Mr
scalecki
in
talking
about
the
glass
blocks
as
an
alternative
to
security.
Storm
windows,
which
you
mentioned
security,
difference
with
glass
blocks,
or
is
this
more
of
a
cost
saving
to
use
that
instead
of
the
security,
storm
windows
or
other
approaches
that
would
preserve
more
of
the
appearance
of
the
historic
windows.
K
A
Other
questions
or
comments,
discussion,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
in
response
to
commissioner
moblem
that,
typically
when
we
do
allow
changes
to
the
rear
of
the
building,
they
still
have
to
complement
the
the
building
and
I
think
that
staff
is
is
indicating
that
this
glass
block
would
not
be
a
complementary
treatment.
So,
typically
when
we
have
allowed
new
window
openings
and
additions,
things
like
that,
it's
designed
to
complement
the
building.
C
I'll
make
a
motion
I
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
the
staff
report,
except
that
we
strike
item
number
one
specifically
where
they
talk
about
not
allowing
the
the
glass
block
so
I,
guess
that
would
probably
striking
the
entire
comment.
P
C
F
P
C
Yes,
so
I
I
recommend
I
I
am
proposing
that
we
accept
the
recommended
motion.
The
Heritage
preservation
commission
approves
the
repair
and
replacement
of
Windows
on
the
property
located
at
1.1
104th
Street
Southeast
in
the
emergency
Minnesota
Greek
letter,
Chapter,
House
historic
district
subject
to
the
following
conditions,
except
that
I
would
like
to
eliminate
condition.
Number
one
of
the
staff
recommendation.
A
A
F
I
A
Thank
you
that
motion
passes
and
that
concludes
our
public
hearing
items.
We'll
go
on
to
our
last
discussion
item,
which
is
item
number
seven:
the
engagement
project
for
a
Minneapolis,
African-American,
historic
and
cultural
context,
study
the
final
deliverables.
The
staff
memo
is
presented
by
Robert
scalecki.
K
Thanks
again,
chair
Howard
I'm,
Rob,
scalecki
senior
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
cped,
and
this
is
a
project
that
I
know
a
lot
of
you
have
been
wondering
about
and
have
heard
about,
some
for
a
while,
so
we're
very
glad
to
be
able
to
share
it,
and
hopefully
all
of
you
were
able
to
read
through
the
final
deliverables
before
this
meeting.
So
just
to
give
a
brief
background.
In
2020,
the
historic
preservation
team
received
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
Grant
from
The
National
Trust
for
historical
preservation.
K
This
is
more
specifically
through
their
African-American
cultural
heritage
action
fund,
and
this
grant
was
to
conduct
Community
engagement
for
an
eventual
contact
study.
So
I
took
over
as
project
manager
later
in
2021,
the
city
had
hired
a
Consulting
team
of
three
firms,
a
primary
consultant
and
two
subconsultants,
so
judge
Lejeune
Lang
of
Lang
Johnson
development,
Equity
strategies
and
the
106
group
to
compile
the
document
as
well
as.
Q
K
The
Consultants
also
conducted
oral
history
interviews
and
a
select
windshield
survey
of
sites
that
were
identified
during
this
project,
so,
as
you
hopefully
saw.
The
final
report
summarizes
all
of
this
in
a
378-page
document
that
is
available
for
public
viewing
and
comment
on
the
city's
project
webpage.
So
there
are
19
recommendations
that
were
compiled
for
possible
next
steps.
Based
on
what
was
put
together,
there
was
an
outline
that
was
completed
for
an
eventual
context
study
as
the
next
step
to
so
staff.
K
At
this
point,
were
you
know
going
around
trying
to
get
the
communications
going
and
get
the
word
out
about
the
project?
It's
kind
of
like
Community
engagement
for
a
community
engagement
project,
but
we've
we've
also
I
think,
as
we
mentioned
before,
we've
applied
for
a
pre-application
Grant
from
the
same
grantor,
The
National
Trust
to
hopefully
get
invited
to
submit
a
full
application
for
that
context.
Study
itself.
So
at
this
point
we're
not
sure,
but
we
are
being
proactive
in
some
of
the
recommendations,
and
you
know
the
ultimate
goal
of
eventually
drafting
the
context
study.
K
So
I
would
like
to
say:
Aaron
K
is
here
as
well,
and
Aaron
did
a
lot
of
the
work
as
a
consultant
at
the
time
of
of
the
drafting.
So
Aaron
is
the
better
staff
member
for
the
actual
context
of
the
report.
We
are
both
available
to
answer
any
questions
or
take
any
comments
if
you
would
like,
but
otherwise
I'm
just
very
happy
to
be
up
here
and
be
able
to
share
this
with
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
sharing
the
report
with
us.
I
know,
I've
been
begging
for
months
and
I
I
appreciate
that
you
had
some
challenges
and
being
able
to
get
it
to
us.
It
was
really
great
to
see
I
love
that
it
brought
the
context.
Well,
the
potential
for
context
all
the
way
up
to
the
current
day
to
see
brother
Ali's
name
in
there,
along
with
all
of
the
other
long-known
Minneapolis
figures
was,
was
great
to
see
that
it
recommends
that
so
I
was
excited
about
that.
Q
D
I
mean
I'm,
basically
I,
say
the
same
thing,
but
I'm
just
itching
for
more
information
right
we're
reading
some
of
this
stuff
I'm
like
I,
want
to
dig
deeper
into
some
of
these
topics.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
see
where
this
goes,
because
I
thought
it
was
really
awesome
to
get
all
that
information.
So.
O
I'm,
like
I,
don't
know
if
that's
fourth,
now
that
I'll
Echo
the
comments,
I
will
say
that
I
was
at
the
shippo
conference
and
there
was
a
presentation
on
this
and
I
was
like
so
excited
and
like
have
been
talking
to
people
about
it
since
then,
and
I'm
very
excited
that
we
can
now
sort
of
see
this
and
and
look
at
this
and
excited
to
hear
what
next
steps
are.
I
feel
like
when
this
came
up
last.
O
One
of
the
questions
that
had
been
brought
up
is
sort
of
how
can
Commissioners
support
this
work
and
I
would
encourage
staff
to
continue
to
think
about
that,
and
maybe
at
our
next
Retreat
that
can
be
a
conversation
topic
or
whatever,
but
would
love
to
be
able
to
support
this.
However,
we
can.
C
Mr
skalkier
a
couple
of
questions
does
and
I
apologize.
I
read
this
on
Sunday.
Is
there
going
to
be
proactive
Outreach
by
the
city
to
the
and
it
was
a
20
or
25
property
owners
that
were
identified
as
kind
of
the
the
priority?
If
you
want
to
put
it
that
way
to
actually
to
encourage
people
or
help
them
help
them
go
through
the
process
of
getting
their
properties
placed
on
the
register
or.
K
Thanks,
commissioner
Melvin,
that's
not
something
that
we've
thought
of
yet
it's.
K
We
haven't
gotten
that
far
I
guess
to
to
go
forward
with
notifying
Property
Owners
of
if,
if
their
property
had
been
identified
for
further
research,
you
know
to
to
reach
out
to
property
owners
and
ask
if
they
would
be
interested
in.
You
know
going
forward
with
further
research,
but
that
is
you
know
something
we
can
take
into
account
and
think
about.
Okay,.
C
And
my
understanding
from
reading
through
this
was
that
the
report
was
driven
because
you
got
a
grant
specifically
to
do
this.
Is
there
any
inclination
on
the
part
of
the
city
to
try
to
get
similar
future
grants
to
direct
address
other
groups,
because
I'm
thinking
what
we
think
of
historical
discrimination
in
the
city,
I
think
the
Native
American
Community
probably
has
been
I,
don't
want
to
say
I
will
say,
probably
equally
treated
punitively
by
the
majority
population
in
this
city.
C
K
Thanks
again,
commissioner
milbuma,
that's
something
that
our
team's
always
looking
at
for
more
opportunities
to
to
fund
opportunities
like
that.
Based
on
your
comment,
the
City
of
Minneapolis
does
have
a
Native
American
historic
and
cultural
conduct.
Study
that
was
completed,
I
want
to
say
2012
2015
for
some
reason
that,
but
we
we
do
have
some
documents.
We
understand
that
a
lot
of
times
it's
it's
not
enough,
especially
when
you
know
there's
more
engagement.
That
could
be
done.
K
P
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Milton
and
and
Rob
I
wanted
to
touch
on
a
couple
comments
that
you
made
just
following
up
on
some
of
the
comments
that
Rob
made
for
the
properties
that
were
listed
in
there
I
want
to
just
make
it
very
clear
that
the
city
has
no
intention
to
designate
any
properties
that
were
listed
in
this
context.
Study.
I
C
P
So
on
that
note,
we
so
the
engagement
was
very
much
a
pre-step
to
the
context
study
and
the
context
study
is
really
very
much.
The
first
broad
step
in
the
preservation
planning
process
kind
of
as
a
as
a
field,
but
in
our
planning
an
idea
for
this
was
we
didn't
feel
it
was
appropriate
for
professionals
to
go
out
and
do
a
lot
of
primary
and
secondary
research
and
then
write
a
contact
study
about
a
community
without
their
input.
And
so
we
took
a
different
approach
to
actually
go
to
the
Community
First
and
ask
them.
P
What
was
important
workplace
is
important.
Is
this
something
that
is
valued
at
all
or
even
thought
about
eat
some
of
these
places?
And
so
a
lot
of
it
was
just
I
mean
there
was
some
research
done
by
the
106
group.
But
then
some
of
the
places
were
also
mentioned
in
some
of
these
meetings
and
they're
very
much
just
sort
of
a
jumping
off
point
in
terms
of
preparing
to
write
the
context
study,
which
is
kind
of
it's,
a
contextual
history,
bringing
in
lots
of
different
themes
and
topics
and
a
period
of
time
throughout
Minneapolis.
P
But
I
I
I
hesitate
to
say
that
we
we
want
to,
and
and
I
and
I
do
speak
strongly
about
this
to
to
notify,
because
I
guess
I
don't
want
any
Property
Owners
to
think
that,
as
a
result
of
this
that
their
properties
are
now
on
a
specific
list
that
the
city
will
use
to
evaluate.
Now
we
understand
they're
there.
We
have
them,
but
I
think
I
wanted.
You
know
we
wanted
the
participants
of
this
study
to
be.
P
After
we
have
this
input
and
I,
you
know
our
hope
is
to
yes,
we
would
be
applying,
for
we
have
actually,
as
Rob
mentioned
already
applied
for
money,
to
produce
the
contact
study,
whether
we
will
get
that
or
not
I
really
don't
know,
but
then
that
would
take
more
of
a
deeper
dive
into
laying
out
some
of
these
themes
that
were
identified
by
the
community
in
terms
of
what
they're
interested
in
seeing
and
kind
of
like
a
meshing
of
of
the
architectural
history
and
historic
preservation
field,
but
then
also
getting
in
community
input
on
it.
P
From
that
point,
from
a
from
a
post
context,
usually
there
are
surveys,
they
can
be
centered
around
themes.
They
can
be
centered
geographically,
there's
many
different
ways
to
do
kind
of
a
Recon
survey
from
a
Recon
survey.
Then
it
kind
of
goes
to
an
intensive
survey
and
then
from
there
you
can
start
talking
local
or
national
register.
You
know
listing
or
designation.
However,
one
thing
I
think
that's
really
peaked
in
our
minds
as
a
result
of
this
or
has
really
been
brought
to
the
light
in
this.
P
Are
there
other
forms
of
recognition
that
doesn't
involve
designation
because
with
designation
does
come
some
pretty
tight
strings,
not
always,
but
there
are
strings
attached
to
it,
and
you
know,
as
as
I've
said
many
times,
local
designation
is
the
strongest
form
of
preservation
regulation
out
there
and
is.
Could
this
be
a
starting
point
to
identify
other
forms
of
recognition?
P
Nothing
is
directly
on
the
table
at
the
moment
right
now,
because
we
don't
at
this
point
in
time,
have
funding
at
the
moment,
but
we
are
searching
for
funding
sources
to
complete
this
second
step,
but
to
us
it
was
important
to
separate
them
and
not
in
other
places
such
as
St
Paul
have
done
them
together
and
I
think
that
works
as
well,
but
I
know.
That
was
something
we
wanted
to.
Try
was
to
separate
and
see
if
we
could
really
just
do
a
focus
on
engagement
and
get
some
input.
So
thank
you.
C
I
guess
Mike
it
and
I
appreciate
everything
you
just
said:
I
guess.
My
concern
is
that
you
did
this
Outreach
people
I'm
assuming
you
got
people
excited
about
this
and
you
got
people
thinking
hey
the
city.
Is
the
city
may
have
more
appreciation
of
the
value
that
a
large
population
of
the
city
that
has
been
neglected
historically
and
what
you
describes
sounds
very
logical,
but
it
also
sounds
like
a
very
large
process
and
I
would
just.
C
It
would
be
somewhat
so
crushing
to
think
that
now
people's
excitement
is
now
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
whole
churn
of
the
government,
bureaucracy
and
I.
Don't
say
that
as
a
negative
I
just
say
it
is
that's
kind
of
the
reality
of
of
how
our
government
works
for
many
good
reasons,
so
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
way
that
staff
can
encourage
those
individuals
to
come
forward
on
their
own
and
to
you
know,
kind
of
start
bringing
these
things
forward
to
hire.
C
People
like
you
know,
Tamara
and
all
the
other
smart
people
that
do
historic,
Consulting
to
actually
start
figuring
out
are
these.
Are
these
buildings
and
places
and
neighborhoods
worthy
of
designation,
and
should
we
start
that
process
as
opposed
to
kind
of
letting
it
go
through
the
the
city,
the
city
directed
process,
because
in
some
ways
the
city
controls
one
process,
but
the
individual
homeowners
or
the
neighborhood
groups
can
initiate
it
themselves
and
I?
C
P
I
hear
you
and
I
think
this
is
where
Barb
major
or
chair
Howard
May
jump
in
and
explain
our
limited
tools
available,
but
I,
but
I
do
hear
you
yeah
and,
and
I
and
I
see
your
point
and
it's
something
we
have.
We
have
talked
about
and
and
mauled
over
as
well
and
all
to
be
completely
honest.
We
don't
have
a
good
answer
at
this
point,
but
thank.
A
You
yeah
I,
really
appreciate
your
thoughts
on
that,
commissioner
Melbourne.
You
know
we
have
to
have
that
historic
context
to
be
able
to
do
the
evaluations
and
so
for
the
city
staff
to
be
able
to
go
through
that
process.
We
need
to
go
through
our
typical
process,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
means
we
can
stop
on
any
of
the
other
things.
We
can
continue
the
engagement
throughout
all
of
that,
including
to
the
the
homeowners
or
property
owners
that
are
identified
because
that'll
be
part
of
doing
that
context.
A
Because
of
issues
with
Integrity
because
of
issues
with
the
age
of
significance
because
of
issues
of
properties
being
gone,
but
those
stories
still
being
so
important
to
tell
and
what
the
African-American
Community
we
have
such
a
Vibrant
Community
today.
That
has
significance
that
doesn't
fall
under
the
traditional
designation
of
buildings,
and
so
we
need
to
be
looking
at
those
other
things
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
partner
with
perhaps
other
folks
in
the
city
we've
talked
about.
You
know
the
cultural
districts
and
things
like
that.
A
A
O
Would
just
really
like
to
add
that,
like
it
is
really
encouraging
to
me
to
hear
this
conversation
happening
and
also
I
feel
like
it
was
reflected
in
this,
but
about
having
the
conversation
of
like
maybe
National
register
nomination.
Isn't
the
right
choice
for
this,
but
there
is
still
really
important
history
that
needs
to
be
recognized
and
told,
and
so
I
would
really
encourage
another
thing
right,
because
there's
not
enough
as
sort
of
the
next
steps
are
happening
in
this.
O
For
that
to
really
be
part
of
the
conversation
is
not
just
what
is
the
history
that
you
want
told,
but
how
do
you
want
it
reflected
and
that
very
well
may
not
be
in
a
nomination?
It
might
be.
You
know
in
a
marker,
it
might
be
in
something
completely
different
that
none
of
us
know,
because
that
isn't
our
history,
so
I
think
that
sort
of
having
that
be
part
of
that
conversation
feels
really
important.
O
C
Miss
Q
I
have
a
question
for
you,
so
you
worked
on.
The
study.
G
Thank
you,
chair
Howard,
commissioner
melblum,
so
I
would
say
the
specific
properties
that
are
mentioned
in
the
recommendations
in
terms
of
possible
National
register
nominations
and
local
Landmark
designations,
where
the
properties
that
Rose
to
the
the
top
in
conversations
in
these
Community
engagement
meetings.
G
As
you
know,
multiple
people
across
multiple
meetings,
we're
bringing
them
up
and
I
think
that
perhaps
not
a
direct
output
of
these
meetings,
but
it
was
already
happening
concurrently
was
the
community
effort
to
push
for
the
national
register,
designation
of
Hiawatha,
Golf,
Course
and
so
I
think
there
are
other
properties
that
the
community
has
an
ion
that
they're
reaching
out
and
trying
to
learn
more
about
the
designation
process
and
the
national
register
nomination
process.
G
C
And
if
I
could
ask
you
one
more
question:
I'm
particularly
sensitive
to
the
idea
of
well
I.
Think
it's
a
really
nice
I
think
it's
there's
a
lot
of
validity
to
saying.
C
G
Thank
you,
chair
Melbourne,
so,
in
each
engagement
meeting
near
the
end
of
the
two-hour
sessions,
we
would
post
a
poll
that
asks
you
know.
Is
this
history
important?
Yes
or
no?
And
how
would
you
want
this
history
to
be
told
and
the
selections
for
that
were
I
would
say
generally
geared
more
towards
public
history
initiatives
than
necessarily
designation,
and
so
there
was
definitely
interest
in
like
historical
Maps
or
websites
or
exhibits
like
how
do
we
reach
a
broader
audience?
So
many
people
who
attended
would
comment.
G
I
never
knew
this
about
our
history.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
future
Generations
know
about
this,
and
we
didn't
necessarily
Drive
the
point
home
about
designation
options,
because
I
think
this
was
also
the
first
time
that
many
people
were
even
having
conversations
about
historic
preservation
and
from
the
consultant
side.
G
That
was
a
little
challenging
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
not
dominate
this
conversation
when
that's
not
what's
most
important
and
just
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
foundation
for
it,
and
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
great
Partnerships
that
are
possible
through
the
city
with
the
Minnesota
African-American,
Heritage,
Museum
and
gallery
with
the
Hennepin
History
Museum.
Who
could
help
tell
those
stories
in
a
way
that
might
reach
a
broader
audience
than
necessarily
focusing
on
one
specific
property
and
designation
option?
Does
that
answer
your
question.
E
A
So
excited
to
actually
have
it
in
front
of
us
now
all
right.
That
concludes
our
discussion.
Items.
Does
staff
have
any
announcements,
I.
P
Do
chair
Howard,
thank
you.
Andrea
Burke
supervisor
for
the
historic
preservation
team
in
c-pad
wanted
to
just
give
you
a
very
brief
update,
but
things
are
shaping
up
for
the
Washburn
fur
Oaks
design,
guidelines,
update
and
engagement
meetings,
we're
just
finalizing
some
dates,
but
for
our
two
Commissioners
one
who's
who's
absent
tonight,
we
will
be
reaching
out
to
you
very
soon
with
some
more
info
about
that
very
soon
we
were
just
chatting
about
it
right
before
we
came
here
also
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
we
have
another.
P
What
we
have
a
draft
of
Dinkytown
done,
design
got
yes,
I
know,
and
you
can
you
can
look
at
me
for
that,
one
that
one
is
that's
on
me,
but
we've
we've
got
another
draft
done
and
we're
we're
beginning
to
move
forward
with
that.
One
again,
now
that
we
are
fully
staffed
again
and
can
distribute
things
a
little
more
evenly
so
I
just
wanted
to.
P
Let
you
know
that
also
we
have
submitted
our
CLG
Grant
application
for
a
re-survey
of
the
Fifth
Street
Southeast
District,
similar
to
what
we
were
doing
with
Washburn
fur
Oaks,
but
maybe
a
little
more
involved
in
getting
a
little
bit
more
history
behind
some
of
those
properties,
since
it's
smaller
and
are
available,
resources
are
fairly
Limited
at
this
point
in
time.
So
I
think
we
find
out
in
I.
Think
we
found
out
in
April
is
that
right,
yeah
in
April,
Minneapolis
preservation
awards
are
coming
up,
March,
Wednesday,
March,
15th
and
I.
P
Can't
you
will
know,
but
it's
in
the
evening
it's
at
the
Capri
theater
registration
is
open.
It's
no
charge,
but
I
encourage
you
all
to
attend.
It
is
in
person
and
then
also
dovetailing
off.
Commissioner
bjornbergs
comment.
Yes,
the
our
Retreat
is
coming
up
in
early
April
and
speaking
of
topics.
It
is
now
almost
March
1st.
So
look
for
a
message
for
me,
but
you
are
also
welcome
to
tell
me
any
topics
that
are
at
the
top
of
your
head
at
the
moment
and
I
will
start
taking
them
down.
P
A
You
thank
you.
Do
any
Commissioners
have
any
announcements
or
commission
business
with
that.
We
have
completed
all
items
on
the
agenda
for
this
meeting.
I
will
ask
members
of
the
commission
and
staff
once
more
if
there
are
any
other
matters
to
come
before
the
meeting
there
being
no
other
business
to
come
before
this
meeting
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
R
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