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A
Good
afternoon
welcome
to
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
for
today,
April
18th
I
am
joined
by
a
quorum
of
the
committee
that
includes
council
members,
chug
Tai,
Osman,
rainville
and
Chavez,
which
is
a
quorum
of
the
committee
as
well
as
at
the
moment
council
member
Payne.
Other
council
members
who
come
I
will
introduce
when
the
moment
allows.
We
have
a
lengthy
agenda
today,
so
we
will
first
take
up
the
consent
agenda.
The
consent
agenda
consists
of
item
8,
which
is
the
liquor
license.
A
Approvals
and
item
number
nine,
the
liquor
license
renewals
item
10
or
the
Gambling
License
approvals
item
number
11
is
a
licensed
settlement
conference
with
recommendations
and
business
license
operating
conditions
for
the
gay
90s
at
400,
Hennepin
Avenue
item
12
is
an
extension
of
exclusive
development
rights
with
Sherman
and
Associates
for
a
property
at
1500
4th
Street
South
item
number
13
are
allocating
funding
through
our
B
etab
program,
Business
technical
assistance
program
for
over
a
dozen
small
community
organizations
working
in
partnership
with
the
city
and
businesses.
Item
number
14
is
our
home
cdbg
and
NSP
program.
A
Income
appropriation
and
item
number
15
is
the
livable
communities
account
award
for
the
city
of
Lakes
Community
Land
Trust
item
number
16
is
the
deed,
Redevelopment
grants.
These
are
accepting
grants
that
have
been
applied
for
by
a
number
of
affordable
housing
and
economic
development
programs.
Item
number
17
are
the
winning
awards
for
the
spring
2023
brownfields
round
through
the
county
and
item
number
18
is
approval
of
Hennepin
County's
Redevelopment
Authority
doing
a
bond
issuance
at
Whittier
community
housing,
which
is
at
2609
Blaisdell
Avenue
South
item
19
is
Oakland
Square.
A
This
is
approving
Hennepin
County
to
also
put
Bond
issuance
into
that
project.
Item
number
20
is
revising
program
guidelines
for
our
NOAA
preservation
fund
item.
21
is
a
rezoning
at
11,
8th,
Avenue,
Northeast
and
800
Sibley
Street
Northeast
item
number
12
is
a
referral
to
staff
as
it
pertains
to
our
mold
ordinance
item
number
23
is
setting
a
public
hearing
for
May
2nd
for
Plymouth
Avenue
Apartments
tax,
increment
housing
plan
and
item
number
four
setting
a
public
hearing
for
May
2nd
to
consider
a
housing
revenue
bonds
for
Northrop
King
in
the
First
Ward.
A
With
that
I
am
going
to
move
items
off
the
entire
consent
agenda,
which
is
items
8
through
24.
I'll
note.
The
committee
has
been
joined
by
council
member
Allison,
who
should
be
recorded
as
present
and
I
will
see.
If
there's
any
item,
anyone
would
like
to
pull
from
the
consent
agenda.
Councilmember
rainville.
B
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anyone
from
the
park
board
here,
but
this
item
is
about
Graco
Park
they've
done
a
great
job.
It's
a
very
complex
issue.
The
neighborhood
has
been
very
patient,
as
has
parkport
staff
and
I
want
to
just
thank
the
park
staff
for
their
great
work
on
on
doing
this.
Parkland
along
the
river
is
very
desired
and
valuable
and
we're
all
very
excited.
So.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
other.
A
Comments
or
questions
on
the
consent
agenda
for
members
of
the
committee,
seeing
not
on
the
chair's
motion
to
approve
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
those
items
are
approved.
We
will
now
move
to
our
public
hearing
agenda.
There
are
three
five
public
hearings
in
addition
to
two
quasi-judicial
public
hearings.
A
I
believe
the
total
time
will
need
to
do.
These
is
about
60
to
90
minutes.
Once
we've
concluded
with
that,
we
will
take
up
the
discussion
item
of
the
forgivable
loan
for
the
indigenous
people's
task
force
project
and
then
move
into
item
number
26,
which
is
the
staff
presentation
on
the
rent,
stabilization
economic
analysis.
We
have
set
90
minutes
for
item
number
26,
which
is
the
staff
analysis,
there'll,
be
a
presentation
from
staff,
as
well
as
the
opportunity
for
members
of
the
committee,
followed
by
other
members
of
the
council,
to
ask
questions
of
Staff.
A
Should
we
need
more
time?
I
am
absolutely
open
to
taking
it
up
again
at
the
next
meeting,
as
well
as
offering
the
opportunity
to
submit
written
questions
from
members
of
the
council
to
staff
that
could
be
addressed
in
the
next
committee
meeting.
But
there's
going
to
be
a
hard
stop
on
the
meeting
today
at
4
25
to
accommodate
the
Heritage
preservation
commission
that
meets
at
4
30,
as
well
as
the
90-minute
timeline
we
set
so
that
everyone
could
plan
their
schedules
accordingly.
A
So
if
we
run
out
of
time
and
I'm
going
to
work
very
hard
to
make
sure
we
don't,
we
can
take
it
up
at
the
next
meeting
and
it
will
be
at
the
will
of
the
committee.
So
if
someone
is
interested
in
putting
it
on
the
next
agenda,
I'm
perfectly
happy
to
do
that
with
that.
We'll
start
with
public
hearing
number
one
which
is
nolo's
kitchen
and
we'll
hear
from
Mr
Cervantes
on
item
number.
One
thank.
C
You
chair
Goodman
and
committee
members,
I'm
licensed
inspector
Max,
Cervantes
licenses
and
consumer
services
I'm
presenting
an
application
from
nolo's,
Kitchen
and
Bar
the
basement
bar
owned
by
the
Maytag
project.
Llc.
The
business
address
is
511
Washington,
Avenue
North,
located
in
Ward
3..
The
current
license
is
an
on
sale,
liquor,
General,
entertainment,
Sunday
sales
license.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
permanent
expansion
of
premises
to
include
the
rooftop
of
their
building,
nolo's,
Kitchen
and
Bar.
The
basement
bar
has
been
operating
at
this
location
since
2017..
C
Their
proposed
hours
of
operation
for
this
space
are
11,
am
to
10
p.m:
Sunday
through
Wednesday
and
11
A.M
to
12
a.m.
Thursday
through
Saturday,
the
expansion
will
provide
85
seats
for
food
and
beverage
service
on
the
rooftop
on
March
28th
public
hearing
notices
were
sent
to
Property
Owners
within
450
feet
of
the
premises,
notices
we're
also
sent
to
the
north
loop
neighborhood
association,
the
warehouse
District
Business
Association
and
council
member
rainville.
We
have
received
three
comments
from
the
community
with
concerns
about
noise.
C
This
business
has
used
the
space
in
this
manner
with
a
temporary
permit
over
the
last
three
years,
and
no
311s
have
been
generated
for
noise
on
the
rooftop.
There
would
be
background
music
at
ambient
levels.
There
would
be
three
speakers
placed
on
the
floor
with
the
roof,
sidewalls
bathroom
structure
and
bar
structure,
to
act
as
noise
barriers.
The
volume
of
the
speakers
will
be
controlled
by
the
manager
on
duty,
the
licenses
and
consumer
services.
Division
recommends
approval
of
a
permanent
expansion
of
premises
for
nolo's,
Kitchen
and
Bar
the
basement
bar.
This
concludes
my
presentation.
A
You
Mr
Cervantes.
Are
there
any
comments
or
questions
for
on
this
application?
Seeing
none
thank
you.
Will
we
will
curing
an
item
number
one
there's
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue.
If
you
are
please
step
forward
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please
feel
free
to
make
any
statement.
You'd
like.
D
D
I
think
we
just
wanted
to
introduce
ourselves
be
available
for
any
questions.
We've
been
in
the
neighborhood
five
years
now,
we're
sure
we're
grateful
to
be
there.
We
feel
like
the
building
and
the
businesses
inside
have
been
a
great
asset
to
the
community,
we're
super
proud
of
our
staff
and
the
culture
that
it's
sprung
again
being
open.
Breakfast
lunch
and
dinner.
D
We're
yeah
we're
super
excited
for
the
expansion
on
the
rooftop
I
think
it's
a
a
great
asset
to
the
neighborhood.
If
the
snow
ever
melts
and
we
finally
get
to
eat
and
eat
and
drink
outside,
but
yeah
we'll
be
available
for
any
questions
and
I
know.
There's
a
lot
on
the
agenda,
so
I
don't
want
to
eat
up
much
time,
but
I
think
Max
covered
kind
of
the
main
details,
but
we'll
be
available
to
to
address
any
questions.
I
think
Marty
has
a
couple
comments
as
well.
E
Collins
yeah
just
want
to
hearken
back
to
the
original
idea
here
being
a
neighborhood
place
for
people
to
gather.
You
know
we
are
that
a
lot
of
people
like
to
gather
our
place.
They
have
a
wonderful
time.
We
pride
ourselves
in
hospitality
and
being
here
for
the
community.
We
stayed
open
during
covid.
We
have
a
breakfast
spot
when
everyone
else
is
closing
so
we're
here
for
the
community
as
a
gathering
space.
We
would
like
to
continue
that
on
a
beautiful
Rooftop
in
the
north
loop.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I've.
Thank
you,
Mr
Collins,
for
coming
today.
We've
we
spoke
the
other
day
and
thank
you
as
well
Mr
Johnson
and
is
it
Peter
or
Pete,
yeah
and
I'm?
Sorry
I,
thank
you
for
coming,
but
I
have
spoke
with
Mr
Collins
I
want
the
committee
and
all
that
I'm
going
to
vote
to
a
postpone
this
motion
of
postpone
this
for
one
cycle.
So
they
have
the
chance
to
talk
to
the
neighbor
group.
B
There's
been
some
miscommunications
on
both
sides,
but
to
talk
to
them
as
well
as
to
speak
with
our
Police
Department
upgrade
your
security
plan.
It's
been
in
existence
for
five
years.
Things
have
changed,
especially
with
the
rooftop
deck.
So
let's
get
those
two
items
taken
care
of
Miss
lingo
is
in
in
the
crowd.
She'll
help
you
she's
a
naughtiest
here,
she'll
help
you
make
contact
with
the
police
department
for
the
security
plan
upgrade
and
with
that
I'll
motion
to
postpone
this
one
cycle
item.
A
A
G
A
C
You
chair,
Goodman
and
committee
members:
I
am
licensed
inspector
Max,
Cervantes
licenses
and
consumer
services
I'm,
presenting
an
application
from
underground
leaf
and
Vine
owned
by
underground
wine
club
LLC.
The
business
address
is
702
and
a
half
First
Street
North
located
in
Ward
3..
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
off
sale
liquor
license.
This
is
a
new
business
in
the
Itasca
building.
C
Their
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
Tuesday
through
Saturday
12
P.M
to
8
PM
Sunday,
12
P.M
to
6
pm
on
March
28th
public
hearing
notices
were
sent
to
Property
Owners
within
450
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
north
loop
neighborhood
association,
the
warehouse
District
Business,
Association
and
council
member
rainville.
We
have
received
no
comments
from
the
community,
the
licenses
and
consumer
services.
Division
recommends
approval
of
an
off
sale,
liquor
license
for
underground,
leaf
and
Vine.
This
concludes
my
presentation
at
this
time.
I'll
stand
for
any
comments
or
questions
are.
A
H
H
My
previous
life
Country
Club
GM-
probably
not
a
great
job
here
since
we're
only
open
six
months
a
year,
but
during
covid,
when
we
had
to
shut
down
for
three
to
six
months
for
a
restaurant,
all
my
friends
that
sold
wine
worked
on
commission
pretty
much,
not
making
any
money
so
I
asked
them
just
send
me
a
list
of
like
50
ones
by
the
case,
I'll
send
it
out
to
our
membership,
see
if
we
can't
get
you,
you
know
a
little
money
on
the
table.
Sure
enough.
H
A
I
Afternoon
my
name
is
Andrew
Morse
I
live
in
the
North
Loop
and
I
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
of
support
for
Jason's
business.
I
met
him
a
few
months
ago.
I
think
he's
a
smart
and
solid
operator.
I
feel
good
about
the
business
model
he
wants
to
bring
to
the
building
my
perspective
is
this
I've
lived
personally
in
the
Itasca
for
five
years,
but
my
mother
bought
the
place
in
1994.,
so
the
Itasca
has
been
my
family's
home
for
three
decades
I'm.
I
Actually,
the
fifth
generation
of
worst
living
working
in
the
north
loop
so
happy
to
say
that
we
need
more
retail
in
North
Loop.
His
business
model
would
be
perfect
for
that
building
and
I
also
wanted
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
other
residents,
including
those
like
me
who
choose
to
live
a
car
free
lifestyle,
who
think
would
be
wonderful
to
have
access
to
high
quality
beer
and
wine
without
having
to
drive
to
it.
I
A
B
Thank
you,
man,
I'm
sure,
I'm,
going
to
move
approval
of
this,
but
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you.
Mr
Vogel,
for
coming
down.
You've
done
a
great
job
of
public
Outreach,
and
the
input
from
the
community
has
been
very
positive,
Mr
Morris,
thank
you
for
coming,
but
Mr
Vogel,
your
kind
words
for
our
staff
are
very
much
appreciated.
They
work
very
hard,
they're
they're,
good
good
people
and
they
make
the
city
work.
B
A
J
J
J
The
proposed
hours
of
operation
for
the
restaurant
will
be
Monday
through
Friday
3
P.M
to
4
a.m
and
Saturday
and
Sunday
from
9
A.M
to
4
a.m.
On
the
interior,
the
exterior
will
be
Monday
through
Friday
3
to
11
and
Saturday
and
Sunday
from
9
00
a.m.
To
11
P.M
notices
were
sent
to
Property
Owners
within
600
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
Loring
Park
Business
Association
citizens
for
alluring
Park
Community,
as
well
as
Community
member
Lisa.
Excuse
me,
council,
member
Lisa
Goodman.
J
We
have
not
received
any
feedback
from
the
community.
There
have
been
no
complaints.
Three
one
one
calls
or
police
calls
associated
with
this
business.
There
are
no
operating
conditions
or
other
issues,
the
license
and
consumer
services
division
recommends
approval
of
an
extended
hours
and
a
Sidewalk
Cafe
license.
This
concludes
my
presentation
at
this
time.
I
will
stand
for
any
comments
or
questions.
Thank
you
are.
A
K
A
L
Thank
you,
Tara
Goodman,
council
members,
I'm
Andra,
bosniak
the
policy
data
and
Communications
manager
and
Regulatory
services
and
I'm
here
before
you
today
to
talk
about
the
skateboard
ramp
ordinance
update.
Currently,
all
skateboard
ramps
are
prohibited
in
residentially
zoned
areas
in
Minneapolis.
After
a
request
reviewed
this
ordinance
staff
from
multiple
departments
agree
that
a
limited
exception
would
result
in
an
approach
more
consistent
with
moderating
treatment
of
this
and
other
Recreational
Sports
Equipment.
L
The
update
before
you
would
allow
exceptions
of
skateboard
ramps
in
residentially
zoned
areas
as
long
as
they
are
non-permanent
movable
and
exceed
and
don't
exceed
four
feet
in
height.
This
update
would
still
require
constituents
to
comply
with
all
applicable
ordinances,
such
as
the
required
yard
setbacks,
as
well
as
noise
level,
noise
levels
and
hours.
A
M
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Corey
Bracken
I'm,
owner
of
pillar
skateboards
in
pillar
Forum,
Cafe
I
started
skateboarding
when
I
was
six
years
old
and
always
had
ramps
in
my
yard.
One
of
the
favorite
pictures
of
myself
is
going
off
a
jump
in
my
front
yard
and
I.
My
business
is
in
Ward
one
and
just
knowing
other
community
members
that
live
in
that
area.
M
A
N
N
We
greatly
appreciate
the
creativity
and
the
responsiveness
that
you
have
given
and
thought
into
this
ordinance
originally
award
nine
resident
did
reach
out
about
all
of
them,
wanted
to
build
a
non-permanent
skateboard
ramp
in
their
backyard
and
Andra
quickly,
responded
to
my
office
and
saying:
let's,
let's
find
a
solution
to
this,
and,
and
that
was
just
something
that
deeply
meant
a
lot
to
me
and
councilor
Payne
on
finding
these
Solutions
together
I
think
it
shows
like
well.
This
may
be
a
small
issue.
N
It
shows
like
how
responsive
we
can
be
as
a
city
when
we
find
want
to
find
Creative
Solutions
to
the
situations
our
our
constituents
are
dealing
with
on
a
daily
basis.
So
just
wanted
to
show
my
appreciation
to
our
staff
on
this
work
and
I.
Think
one
important
thing
is
that
I
just
want
to
see
more
youth
get
involved
in
a
safe,
Manner
and
I
think
this
can
help
improve.
Like
you
know
the
the
things
that
they
can
do
in
their
backyard
so
just
want
to
show
my
great
appreciation
and
things.
O
And
so
you
know
couldn't
agree
with
our
speaker
anymore
and
and
really
thankful
to
staff.
I
think
this
could
be
it's
a
again,
it's
a
small
step,
but
it's
something
that
can
be
really
transformative
for
a
corner
transformative
for
youth,
especially
but
not
only
youth.
So
you
know
a
lot
a
lot
of
Elder
skateboarders
out
there.
So
thank
you.
N
A
P
The
existing
hospital
was
constructed
in
the
mid-1900s
with
surgical
rooms
that
are
now
too
small
to
accommodate
modern
surgical
equipment.
So
constructing
the
new
Surgical
and
care
pavilion
will
greatly
improve
the
types
of
surgeries
Abbott
Northwestern
can
provide
and
the
number
of
patients
that
they
can
serve.
The
nine-story
for
575
000
square
foot
facility
will
contain
30
operating
rooms
with
Associated
prep
and
Recovery
space
192
inpatient
beds,
a
Lobby
Cafe
amenities
for
staff
and
visitors
and
a
floor
for
future.
Build
out.
P
Alina
is
requesting
400
million
in
revenue
bonds
to
finance
the
construction
of
the
new
facility.
With
these
types
of
bonds,
the
funds
come
from
bondholders,
purchasing
the
bonds
and
are
repaid
with
revenues
by
the
project.
So
none
of
the
project
cost
for
repayments
will
come
from
the
city
and
I
do
have
Representatives
here
from
Allina
and
at
this
time
I
will
stand
for
any
questions
you
may
have
are.
A
There
any
questions
for
Michelle
on
item
number
five,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
for
your
report,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
five,
which
is
the
issuance
of
400
million
dollars
in
tax-exempt
revenue
bonds
to
align
a
Health
Systems.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue
representatives
from
align
are
here?
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
representatives
from
Allina
they're
willing
to
pass
in
order
to
allow
us
to
move
forward?
I'll
just
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
the
committee?
A
Seeing
no
questions
from
the
committee
I'll
ask
one
last
time:
if
there's
anyone
else
here
who
would
like
to
testify
on
this
issue,
seeing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
approval
of
the
staff
recommendation,
further
comments
or
questions,
seeing
none
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
approved
and
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
quasi-judicial
public
hearings.
This
is
kind
of
a
different
setup
than
the
last
set
of
public
hearings.
A
We
will
hear
a
staff
report
followed
by
a
10-minute
presentation
from
the
appellant,
and
then
we
will
open
the
public
hearing,
and
each
additional
person
who
is
here
to
speak
can
speak
for
two
minutes.
I
would
urge
the
appellants
to
take
all
of
your
people
in
your
10
minutes.
The
public
hearing
really
should
be
for
the
public
hearing
portion
of
it.
So
given
we
have
a
lengthy
agenda
that
would
be
ideal
today
and
we'll
start
with
item
number
six,
which
is
a
variance
appeal
at
2023,
40th,
Street,
East,
Mr
Cole
house.
Welcome.
Q
Thank
you,
chair
group
and
members
of
the
committee
before
you
today
is
an
appeal
of
a
decision
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment,
denying
a
variance
request
to
increase
maximum
fence
height
in
a
required
reverse
Corner
front
yard
accessory
to
the
single
family
dwelling
at
223,
40th,
Street
East.
This
property
is
in
the
r1a,
multiple
family
District
in
the
interior.
One
built
form
overlay
district
is
a
lot
area
of
6072
square
feet.
The
appellant
is
Chris,
Ruiz
who's,
the
resident
of
the
property
and
was
the
applicant
for
the
variants.
Q
This
is
part
of
a
a
slightly
bigger
project,
so
just
give
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
property
and
other
things
that
are
happening
at
the
same
time.
This
is
a
overhead
photo
from
back
in
2018
showing
the
previous
conditions.
You
can
see
the
properties
reverse
Corner
Lots
in
the
north
sides.
The
top
of
your
screen
is
that
reverse
Corner
front,
which
is
regulated
as
a
front
yard
for
zoning
purposes.
Q
Q
This
is
a
photo
from
2019
showing
those
same
conditions,
and
this
is
again
looking
at
that
North
Side.
So
you
can
see
there
is
a
short
retaining
wall
right
along
the
public
sidewalk
and
a
previous
fence
a
bit
further
up
the
slope
there
that
retaining
wall
and
the
fence
you
see
in
this
photo
are
in
the
public
right
away.
Right
behind
that
fence
is
a
a
metal
shed
that
was
in
the
northwest
corner
of
the
property
that
shed
has
since
been
removed
from
the
property.
Q
This
is
a
survey
again
showing
the
current
condition
so
after
these
improvements
have
been
made.
Also,
just
again
highlight
towards
the
northwest
corner
where
that
shed
used
to
be
that
shed
has
been
removed.
And
now
there
is
a
brick
paver
patio
and
some
new
walkways
connecting
that
patio
to
the
front
entrance
to
the
house,
as
well
as
to
the
garage
and
parking
area
to
the
South.
Q
This
required
a
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
height
of
a
fence
from
three
feet
to
six
feet
in
a
required:
reverse
Corner
front
yard.
There
were
some
other
variance
requests
that
were
included
as
part
of
the
overall
application
that
went
to
the
board.
The
subject
of
today's
appeal
is
specifically
the
fence,
height
variants
and
not
the
other
variances
that
were
required
related
to
the
retaining
wall
or
the
patio
or
the
impervious
surface
coverage
overall
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
those
other
components.
Q
If
anyone
on
the
committee
is
interested,
but
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'll
focus
on
the
defense
height
variants,
which
was
denied
on
the
board
and
that's
specifically
the
subject
of
of
this
appeal.
As
the
members
of
the
committee
are
aware,
there
are
three
required
variance
findings
that
need
to
be
considered
in
this
case.
I'll
go
through
the
individual
analysis
from
From
staff's
perspective
for
each
of
these,
but
ultimately
the
staff
recommendation
was
for
denial
and
that
staff
recommendation
analysis
was
the
basis
for
the
board's
decision
denying
this
varied
sequest.
Q
So
the
first
required
finding
regard
practical
difficulties
due
to
circumstances
unique
to
the
property
staff
finds
is
met.
This
is
a
reverse
Corner
property
which
has
more
strict
setback
requirements
and
therefore
more
strict
fence,
height
requirements,
and
if
hypothetically,
if
this
were
a
standard,
Corner
side
for
zoning
purposes,
on
the
north
side
of
the
property,
a
six
foot
privacy
fence
would
be
allowed
in
the
same
location
without
the
need
for
a
variance
in
this
reverse.
Q
Corner
nature
goes
back
to
the
the
plotting
and
development
of
this
property
in
the
neighboring
properties,
which
I
think
is
from
around
1911.
In
this
case,
so
staff
finds
that
that
finding
is
met.
The
second
required
finding
regarding
reasonable
use
and
spirit
and
intent
of
the
ordinance
and
the
comprehensive
plan
staff
finds
that
this
is
not
met.
Q
The
intent
of
the
ordinance
generally
regarding
maximum
fence
Heights
is
to
encourage
an
aesthetic
environment
to
allow
for
privacy
while
maintaining
access
to
light
and
air
and
to
protect
the
public
health
safety
and
Welfare
in
in
front
yards
fence.
Height
requirements
are
more
strict
to
ensure
the
most
visibility
to
and
from
public-facing
sides
of
properties,
and
the
code
is
also
structured
to
to
limit
visual
obstructions
within
what
we
call
a
site
triangle.
Q
The
angle
or
the
area
near
technically,
it's
Street
or
alley
intersections
is
the
way
the
code
applies,
but
in
this
case
we're
talking
about
public
Street,
public
sidewalk
in
a
private
driveway.
So
a
similar
consideration
is
made
in
in
terms
of
the
spirit
and
the
tent
of
the
ordinance
so
as
constructed
in
this
case.
The
retaining
wall
plus
the
fence,
are
a
total
of
nine
feet
in
height
approximately.
Q
This
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
public
sidewalk
in
the
neighbor's
driveway.
So
it's
a
large
visual
obstruction
that
creates
some
potential
for
for
or
increases
some
potential
for
conflicts
between
vehicles
and
pedestrians
in
the
area,
and
this
new
fence
is
on
the
reverse
Corner
side.
It's
the
the
same
side
as
the
the
architectural
front
of
the
house.
Q
So
it's
the
area
that's
intended
to
have
the
most
visibility,
so
staff
finds
it
doesn't
meet
the
spirit
in
the
tent
of
the
ordinance
in
that
regard,
for
the
third
required
finding
regarding
essential
character
of
the
locality
and
potential
for
injury
or
detriment.
Staff
also
finds
this
is
not
met.
Staff
finds
this
would
not
alter
the
essential
character
of
the
locality,
but,
as
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago,
it
does
create
some
potential
for
injury
or
detriment
due
to
the
the
visibility
around
that
neighbor's
driveway
in
the
sidewalk.
Q
I
would
note
if
the
committee
is
inclined
to
Grant
this
appeal
or
any
sort
of
in
lieu
of
appeal
staff
would
recommend
a
condition
that
they
receive
approval
of
an
encroachment
permit
through
Public
Works.
For
portions
of
this,
which
are
in
the
right-of-way
I
think
there
are
a
total
of
three
written
public
comments
which
were
received
for
this
item,
all
of
which
should
have
been
made
available
to
you.
The
appellant
is
in
attendance
during
today's
hearing.
This
concludes
my
presentation,
but
I'll
stand
for
questions
are.
R
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
really
quick.
The
is
this
retaining
wall
and
then
the
the
the
fence,
on
top
of
it
I,
can't
tell
if
it's
just
visually
from
the
the
prior
to
putting
this
in
versus.
Now,
if
it
looks
like
it's
encroaching
on
the
driveway
or
if
it
actually
is
further
into
into
the
driveway
for
the
for
the
adjacent
property.
R
Q
Q
Whether
someone
is
pulling
forward
or
backing
up
in
or
out
of
this,
this
driveway
there's
a
it's
a
substantial
visual
obstruction.
You
know
the
retaining
wall
plus
plus
defense
that
could
make
it
difficult
to
see
around
that
corner
hard
to
know
if
someone
is
walking
or
rolling
or
riding
a
bicycle
and
could
create
some
potential
for
conflict,
understood.
A
Additional
questions
for
staff,
seeing
none!
Thank
you
for
your
report.
We
are
now
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
six
and
ask
the
appellant
Mr
Ruiz.
If
he
would
like
to
come
forward,
I
would
urge
you
to
stick
to
the
main
characteristics
in
the
staff
report,
as
well
as
the
opinion
of
the
board
of
adjustment
with
regard
to
essential
character
and
reasonable
use.
Sir,
and
you
have
10.
S
S
S
S
So
we
started
doing
these
projects
just
to
have
somewhere
to
go
outside
and
with
that
these
issues
came
happened
right
and
I
understand
the
issues,
the
safety
issues,
the
potential
safety
concerns
that
this
defense
brings
up,
as
it
is
right,
so
I
did
have
proposals
that
I
gave
to
Alex
here,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
the
committee
has
those
right.
A
S
A
S
Actually,
I
never
had
an
opportunity
to
negotiate
the
last
proposals
that
I
did
provide.
I
did
give
the
Miss
Alex
here,
but
aside
from
that,
we
never
negotiated
any
we're
heading
up
to
negotiate.
Okay,
and
you
can
speak
to
that
because
he
his
words
after
our
last
hearing
word
that
he
wasn't
aware
that
I
was
open
to
negotiations.
S
S
S
You
can
see.
That's
about
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
measuring
it,
but
I
think
I
counted
about
like
eight
feet.
Nine
feet
from
the
sidewalk,
so
I
mean
my
proposal
is
just
putting
that
fence
that
I
already
have
12
feet
back
to
where
that
is,
and
just
having
it
six
feet.
I
mean
the
obstructions.
The
views
from
the
driveway
were
already
obstructed
by
what
was
there
before
I've
lived
on
that
black
for
about
30
years?
There's
never
been
an
accident
ever
coming
out
of
that
driveway.
S
A
A
Okay,
sing,
none
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
deny
the
appeal,
it's
very
clear
that
this
is
not
something
that
would
be
supported
by
staff
or
the
board
of
adjustment,
but
I
would
ask
staff
to
work
with
Mr
Ruiz
to
come
up
with
something
that
could
fit
reasonably
within
our
code.
Understanding
what
we
understand
the
situation
to
be.
Certainly
an
improvement
is
good,
but
I
mean
I
can
see
a
conflict
immediately.
A
Next
door
and
I
can
see
a
precedent
being
set
by
allowing
offense
of
nine
feet
in
a
front
yard
to
be
allowed.
There
isn't
any
legal
basis
to
allow
it
and
I
would
ask
Mr
Ruiz
to
work
with
staff
to
determine
what
his
next
steps
are,
so
he
can
become
in
compliance
with
the
ordinance,
because
this
isn't,
as
built
now
situation,
further
comments
or
questions
on
my
motion.
Seeing
none
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
resolved.
F
F
The
current
zoning
map
shows
that
the
property
is
currently
zoned
for
the
c3a
district
and
it
is
located
on
the
University
Avenue
Goodson
Services
Corridor
I'm,
going
to
go
through
a
little
bit
of
the
policy
context
and
then
talk
about
the
proposal
itself.
The
site
under
the
2040
plan
is
guided
for
the
Transit
30
built
form
overlay
District.
F
This
is
one
of
the
more
intensive
land
use
and
built
Forum
districts
that
the
city
has
it's
primarily
due
to
its
proximity
to
high
frequency,
high
quality
transit,
in
that
it's
located
between
two
existing
LRT
stations
and
close
to
the
University
of
Minnesota
East
Bank
campus.
The
primary
function
of
that
built
form
district
is
to
encourage
a
level
of
development
intensity
that
supports
both
local
businesses
and
the
existing
Transit
Service,
as
well
as
providing
for
important
housing
choices
and
options
for
employees
and
students
at
the
University
of
Minnesota
and
surrounding
neighborhoods
for
context.
F
As
far
as
the
city-wide
built
form
Guidance,
the
Transit
30
district
is
applied
very
selectively
to
areas
of
the
city
in
and
around
downtown
and
specifically
adjacent
to
the
University
of
Minnesota
campus.
So
it's
not
a
very
widely
distributed.
Bill
form
overlay
district.
There
are
very
few
areas
of
the
city
outside
of
downtown
that
have
this
minimum
development
expectation.
F
This
is
a
context
image
showing
the
aerial
of
the
site.
The
site
is
currently
occupied
by
a
one-story
commercial
building
occupied
by
restaurant
use
and
then
a
large
surface
parking
lot.
It's
adjacent
to
an
existing
office,
building
immediately
to
the
west
and
a
post
office
building
to
the
east,
it's
a
through
site,
so
it
is
connecting
both
University
Avenue
and
4th
Street
Southeast
and
has
Frontage
along
both
streets.
F
There
has
been
a
significant
amount
of
development
in
the
area
recently,
primarily
due
to
that
adjacency
to
the
university
and
to
high
frequency
Transit.
Much
of
that
development
is
in
the
six
to
eight
to
tens
sort
of
story,
development
intensity.
It's
important
to
point
out
that
most
of
those
projects
were
either
approved
and
or
constructed
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan
and
prior
to
the
implementation
of
this
built
form
overlay
that
has
a
minimum
height
requirements
and
development
intensity
requirements.
F
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
new
seven-story
mixed-use
building
with
135
dwelling
units.
This
is
an
image
of
the
site
or
of
The
Proposal
from
the
University
Avenue
foreign.
They
are
proposing
commercial
uses
along
that
University
Avenue
goods
and
services
Corridor,
as
well
as
one
level
of
underground
and
one
level
of
at
grade
and
closed
parking
and
then
six
stories
of
residential
units.
F
Above
is
it
just
context,
images
showing
that
proposal
in
relationship
to
the
surrounding
Bill
form
and
then
the
applications
that
are
required
to
entitle
this
project
were
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
height
requirement
in
the
Transit
30
built
form
overlay
and
that's
the
the
primary
application
at
issue
here.
The
minimum
height
in
the
Transit
30
is
10
stories.
F
Non-Compliance
with
that
minimum
height
requirement,
staff
recommended
denial
of
all
applications
and
the
City
Planning
Commission
upheld
that
recommendation
at
its
meeting
on
March
6th
I
will
point
out
just
for
the
record
that
we've
been
meeting
with
this
applicant
regularly
through
the
proposal
development
process.
We
don't
like
bringing
applications
forward
with
a
denial
recommendation.
It's
not
common,
but
we
did
provide
consistent
and
clear
feedback
that
that
minimum
height
requirement
was
something
that
we
felt
strongly
about
and
would
not
be
supportable
from
staff.
A
Okay,
we'll
see
if
there
are
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
I
have
a
few,
but
I'm
certainly
willing
to
defer
to
anyone
else.
First,
Mr
Crandall.
Can
you
note
all
of
the
different
times
that
you
told
Mr
oberpillar
that
you
are
not
going
to
consider
a
building
that
was
so
far
less
dense
than
what
the
Transit
30
required?
So
that
was
at
the
committee
of
the
whole.
F
Yes,
so
we
conduct
a
pre-application
meeting
with
every
applicant
prior
to
any
applications
being
submitted
or
any
meetings,
and
we
did
provide
the
feedback,
because
that
was
the
main
question
from
the
developer
about
the
minimum
height
that
we
would
not
support
that
variance.
We
did
take
a
very
basic
version
of
this
proposal
to
the
City
Planning
Commission
Committee
of
the
whole
meeting
for
formal
feedback
from
the
City
Planning
Commission,
and
their
feedback
was
consistent
with
staff
that
they
would
not
likely
support
that
variance.
Recommendation
and.
A
Then
they
applied
anyway
and
the
staff
recommended
denial
and
then
the
Planning
Commission
officially
met
correct
move
to
deny
it
correct.
Okay,
so
four
times
they
were
told,
no
and
so
I'm
very
interested
in
what's
changed
to
get
them
in
front
of
us
today,
I'm
wondering
if
you
or
Mr
Nelson
could
potentially
answer
the
question
regarding
economic
hardship.
I
understand
after
doing
this
many
years,
that
economics
cannot
be
the
sole
Factor
in
creating
a
practical
difficulty
to
avoid
the
conditions
of
the
city's
new
comprehensive
plan.
T
K
U
K
F
I
think
the
primary
driving
Factor
has
to
do
with
construction
type
in
that
wood
frame.
Construction
has
a
maximum
height
of
seven
stories
in
this
case,
so
in
a
switch
to
a
different
construction
type
would
likely
result
in
an
increase
in
cost
and
a
significant
increase
in
development
intensity
to
recoup
that
cost.
The
developer
can
speak
probably
more
to
that
question.
A
A
A
F
Well,
as
I
pointed
out,
there
are
very
few
areas
in
the
city
where
we've
guided
for
this
level
of
development
intensity,
and
so
staff
feels
strongly
that
we
capitalize
on
that
investment
in
terms
of
time
and
guidance
and
energy
of
the
2040
plan
to
make
sure
that
we're
developing
to
our
minimum
expectations.
At
the
very
least
and
taking
advantage
of
these
significant
Transit
Investments
that
we've
made
over
the
years.
A
A
G
Good
afternoon
committee
members
I'm
Carol
Lansing
I'm,
the
attorney
for
the
developer
and
going
to
make
our
presentation
today.
It
is
probably
the
first
time
you've
heard
a
application
for
a
variance
of
minimum
height.
It
is
a
new
ordinance
and
there
is
some
natural
tension
when
there's
new
ordinances.
G
What
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
appeal
is
to
better
articulate
where
there
are
conditions
of
the
property,
physical
conditions
that
reflect
that
that
have
economic
impacts,
but
are
not
economic
considerations
alone
and,
as
Mr
Nelson
said,
economic
considerations
are
relevant.
They
just
can't
be
the
only
Factor
it.
V
G
It's
the
that
made
construction
of
a
taller
building
infeasible
and
we've
tried
to
illustrate
that
by
showing
you
buildings
and
sites
where
taller
buildings
have
been
constructed.
So
this
is
the
our
site,
the
North
Bay
site.
You
see
it's
a
narrow
through
lot
with
limited
Street.
Frontages
no
corners
here
is
the
pillars.
It's
down
the
street.
It's
three
quarters
of
a
block:
it's
got
lots
of
street
frontages
street
frontages.
Let
you
have
units
with
Windows
facing
the
street
they're
not
going
to
face
walls.
That's
important!
G
This
is
been
approved
not
yet
Constructors
under
construction
on
University
Avenue,
more
than
half
the
block
three
Street
frontages
rise.
It's
a
whole
block
development.
The
residential
portions
are
aligned
on
Major
Street
Frontage.
This
is
Wahoo
again
most
of
the
block,
half
block
development,
that's
been
approved
in
Dinkytown
and
a
strange
but
whole
block
called
the
field
house.
That's
going
to
be
opening
soon.
G
Are
where
building
over
seven
stories
and
doing
the
different
construction
type
is
feasible?
All
the
economic
factors
are
relevant
to.
Can
you
Market
the
units?
You
know
what
Revenue
you're
going
to
get
from
the
building
and
you're
not
going
to
get
it
on
a
narrow
lot
like
this,
where
most
of
the
windows
are
facing
the
side
and
other
buildings,
potentially
so
I'm.
A
G
There's
none
now,
but
it
is
these
physical
conditions
of
the
site.
If
this
was
a
larger
site,
if
it
had
more
Street
frontages,
it
would
be
economically
feasible
to
build
a
bigger
building,
there's
also
high
water
table
and
soil
contamination
which
limit
the
ability
to
do
underground
parking,
which
is
important
that
there's
only
proposing
0.35
parking
spaces
per
unit.
But
you
do
have
to
have
some
proportion
of
parking,
because
people
do
have
cars
and
that's
what
they
look
at
some
of
them,
it's
important
to
who
they
choose
to
rent
with,
but.
G
Calls
for
no
parking,
that's
right,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
it's
Market
and
all
development
has
to
be
marketable.
It
has
to
be
financable.
The
city
knows
that
through
the
funding
decisions
they
make
so
we
we
do
believe
there
are
physical
conditions
that
are
relevant
to
the
Practical
difficulties
here,
and
we
also
believe
that
it
is
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
ordinance.
It
is
high
density.
It's
you
know,
135
or
150
dwelling
units
per
acre,
it's
very
high
density
by
City
standards.
W
G
A
X
X
It
is
not
in
my
parents
or
family's
nature
or
a
legacy,
to
ask
for
anything
that
we
have
not
worked
hard
for
for
or
in
or
complain
will
appear
ungrateful
for
the
opportunity
to
have
built
our
American
Dream.
Rather,
it
is
quite
opposite.
I
understand,
before
you
confuse
and
and
anxiously
humble,
as
I
asked
for
your
support
for
the
proposed
project.
Our
family
has
owned
the
restaurant
and
property
at
this
location
for
the
past
30
years.
X
X
Experienced
labor
is
is
short
in
Supply,
dining
and
event.
Bookings
are
still
down.
We
are
fortunate
to
keep
afloat
due
to
the
ownership
of
the
building,
but
as
well.
It
is
also
a
burden
as
well
I
hope
you
were
able
to
read
the
email
that
was
sent
over
and
submitted
as
a
gatekeeper
of
our
city.
I
believe
that
it
is
important
that
you
understand
our
family's
history
as
it
relates
to
this
project.
X
X
X
X
It
was
by
luck
that
what
our
family
found
and
could
afford
this
location,
as
we
knew
very
little
about
the
area
we
worked
more
hard
to
fit
in
and
served
a
community
that
did
not
have
minority
own
vendors
or
many
residents
or
homeowners
of
color.
Apart
from
the
Glendale
housing
projects,
our
minority-owned
business
created
employment
opportunities
and
we
learn
to
engage
in
in
and
give
the
community.
X
As
previous
letters
of
support,
explain.
While
my
family
was
successful,
it
was
not
as
easy
journey
in
the
community
that
lacked
minority
representation,
as
it
relates
to
the
project
in
question.
That
is
the
10th
floor.
Minimum
requirement
for
the
project
I
believe
a
10
floor.
Minimum
requirement
is
on
this
block.
Has
some
room
for
change?
Most
of
the
recent
Construction
in
the
surrounding
areas
are
six
to
seven
floors.
X
It
includes
the
front
and
back
of
the
properties
recently
built,
in
my
opinion,
requiring
the
project
to
block
requiring
the
project
block
to
have
a
10
floor.
Minimum
is
not
absolutely
necessary,
as
you
can
easily
build
the
same
density
population
with
a
seven
floor,
Building
without
additional
cost
in
this
High
Rich
interest
rate
environment.
X
X
In
addition,
there
are
current
exceptions
to
increase
the
height
maximum.
There
should
be
exceptions
to
decreased
height
minimum
as
well.
The
city
Minneapolis
continues
to
make
gains
in
supporting
the
creation
of
minority-owned
business
ventures
and
their
success.
My
family
is
asking
for
your
support.
X
My
family
has
an
opportunity
to
bring
our
American
Dream
to
be
heard
too
too
ahead
to
secure
our
family's
Legacy,
a
legacy
that
has
been
transferred
down
to
privilege
and
mostly
non-minority
families
for
Generations
council
members.
You
have
the
power
to
support
a
reasonable
project
so
that
our
family
can
rest
in
peace
that
my
parents
have
closure
as
they
retire
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
and
just
for
members
of
the
committee
I
gave
them
10
minutes
total
and
I
counted
this
gentleman
in
their
10
minutes.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
here
to
speak
to
this
issue,
anyone
anyone
seeing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
I'm
going
to
move
to
deny
the
appeal:
it's
not
a
secret.
How
I
feel
about
this
I
do
not
think
that
there
is
a
practical
difficulty.
A
A
Are
there
further
comments
or
questions?
You
are
welcome
to
speak.
If
anyone
else
has
anything
to
say
ing,
none
on
the
chair's
motion
to
deny
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
denied
and
we
have
made
it
to
230
with
one
discussion
item
a
very
important
discussion
item
before
the
rent
control
staff,
presentation
and
so
I
want
to
have
an
opportunity
to
introduce
Mark
Garner
who's
been
our
very,
very
long
time
highly
regarded
staff
person
along
with
Mike
Newman,
our
Project
Director.
A
Y
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Mark
Garner,
a
senior
project
coordinator
with
cped
business
development.
This
report
implements
the
city's
2022
commitment
in
the
budget
to
provide
one
million
dollars
to
the
indigenous
people's
task
force
or
iptf
for
the
mequonadon,
autosuken
art
and
Wellness
Center
project.
Y
This
report
also
confirms
and
updates
actions
that
were
adopted
as
part
of
the
city's
previously
approved
land
sale
and
land
write
down
for
the
project.
I
will
focus
my
report
briefly
on
the
new
iptf
facility
and
the
business
terms
for
the
one
million
dollar
forgivable
loan
iptf
has
proposed
the
end.
Well,
the
indigenous
people's
task
force
is
a
non-profit
that
is
used,
cultural-based
and
experiential
approaches
to
improve
the
health,
educational
outcomes
and
economic
success
of
Native,
American,
Native,
Americans
and
other
individuals
in
the
community.
Y
Y
The
primary
goal
of
this
project
is
is
to
provide
a
permanent
modern
facility
for
iptf
to
consolidate
and
expand
its
Health
wellness
and
education
programs,
while
creating
opportunities
for
Youth
and
families
with
its
expanding
career
and
entrepreneurial
training.
Programs
in
the
green
economy,
Health
native
arts
and
Foods.
Y
The
mequonadon
autosukin
project
is
an
11
million
dollar
project
with
funding
sources
that
include
New,
Market,
tax
credit,
Equity
loans,
contributions
from
tribal
communities,
foundations
corporations
and
individual
donors.
Public
Funding
is
being
provided
by
the
state
of
Minnesota
Hennepin
County
and
the
City
of
Minneapolis
business
terms
for
the
city's
one
million
dollar.
Forgivable
loan
include
the
borrower
will
be
the
indigenous
task,
indigenous
people's
task
force
or
an
Affiliated
entity.
The
term
of
the
loan
is
20
years.
The
loan
origination
fee
has
been
waived.
Y
Y
In
addition
to
this,
one
million
dollar
forgivable
loan
city
rolls
to
support.
This
project
include
the
previously
approved
land,
sale
and
land
write
down,
as
well
as
managing
a
deed
pass
through
contamination.
Cleanup
Grant
iptf
expects
to
close
on
all
financing
in
August
with
construction
commencing
shortly
thereafter
and
the
new
facility
opening
in
2024.
Y
K
K
A
Approval
has
been
moved
of
item
number
25.
Are
there
additional
comments
or
questions?
Seeing
none
on
council
member
osman's
motion
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed,
that's
approved.
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
Garner
for
being
here
today.
We
will
now
move
on
to
our
remaining
item.
Our
remaining
item
is
a
staff
presentation.
That's
motion
is
to
receive
and
file
on
the
analysis
of
anticipated
impacts
of
the
rent,
stabilization
policy
recommendations.
I
will
note
that
we
are
beginning
the
conversation
at
2
37
and
we
will
give
this
90
minutes.
A
Should
we
want
to
have
further
questions
I'm
completely
open
to
that
and
I
have
a
process
kind
of
in
place.
Should
we
want
to
do
that?
Should
we
want
to
have
further
conversation
at
the
next
meeting,
I'm
also
open
to
that
and
I
think
we
should
just
see
how
it
goes
and
if
it
feels
like
we
need
that,
then
let's
discuss
it
at
the
end
of
the
conversation.
A
I
will
also
note
I'm
going
to
use
speaker
management
for
the
question
and
answer
portion
of
the
discussion,
obviously
not
for
our
staff
and
I'd
ask
each
person
to
speak
or
ask
a
question
for
no
more
than
five
minutes.
So
if
everyone
on
the
committee
can
get
their
questions
answered
and
then
you'll
have
a
second
opportunity
to
speak
for
seven
minutes
and
the
timer
for
speaker
management
will
give
you
a
sense
of
where
you're
at
on
time,
Mr
Carl
did
I.
Get
that
correct.
V
The
city
council
adopted
a
resolution
in
April
2022,
establishing
a
rent
stabilization
work
group
charged
with
recommending
one
or
two
Frameworks
for
a
rent,
stabilization
policy.
This
action
was
taken
in
response
to
the
Minneapolis
voters,
approval
of
Charter
amendment
number
185
authorizing
city
council
to
regulate
rents
on
private
residential
property.
V
The
city
council
resolution
stipulated
that
the
policy
framework
should
be
targeted
to
protecting
Minneapolis
residents
experiencing
the
worst
housing
disparities
based
on
race,
ethnicity,
income
and
other
factors.
The
resolution
further
stipulated
that
the
policy
framework
should
hold
rental
owners
accountable
to
Fair,
Equitable
and
reasonable
practices
by
prohibiting
excessive
annual
rent
increases.
V
Our
presentation
will
summarize
the
two
Frameworks
recommended
by
the
work
group.
It
is
important
to
note
that
the
work
group
did
not
agree
on
a
single
framework.
A
simple
majority
of
56
percent
of
the
work
group
membership
recommended
one
framework
and
a
sizable
minority
of
44
of
the
work
group
membership
recommended
a
second
framework.
V
If
the
work
group
could
not
agree
on
a
single
framework,
our
presentation
will
summarize
staff's
analysis
of
the
anticipated
fiscal
and
policy
impacts
of
the
two
Frameworks.
This
analysis
was
required
by
the
city
council
resolution.
Specifically,
the
city
council
resolution
stipulated
that
the
policy
Frameworks
must
not
constrain
the
goals
of
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan.
V
V
when
addressing
the
impact
of
rent
control
programs.
The
cura
study
found
that
quote
outcomes
and
individual
cities
are
dependent
on
the
unique
features
of
not
only
the
rent
regulations
themselves,
but
also
the
characteristics
of
the
local
housing
market.
Unquote.
In
other
words,
the
impacts
of
rent
stabilization
policies
are
dependent
on
the
specific
components
of
the
policy
and
market
conditions.
V
A
Z
Good
afternoon,
chair
Goodman
council,
president
council
members,
my
name
is
Joey
Dobbs
and
I'm.
The
housing
and
Equitable
Equitable
development
policy
coordinator
in
cped
I'll
begin
by
providing
some
background
and
context
on
the
work.
That's
led
up
to
the
report
before
you
today,
as
director
Brennan
mentioned.
This
report
responds
to
the
analysis
objectives
in
the
resolution.
It
provides
high-level,
anticipated
impacts
of
a
rent,
stabilization
policy
for
the
city,
with
specific
attention
to
the
policy
Frameworks
developed
by
the
work
group.
Z
So
this
team
has
been
meeting
weekly
from
the
beginning
of
January
to
determine
our
content
areas.
We
also
coordinated
on
the
final
report
we
consulted
as
director
Brennan
mentioned,
with
external
Partners,
including
experts
at
the
city
of
St
Paul,
and
the
Federal
Reserve
Bank
of
Minneapolis.
This
was
to
get
feedback
on
our
analysis
to
make
sure
we
weren't
missing
anything.
Z
This
project
has
been
a
top
priority
for
each
of
the
staff
you
see
in
the
room
today
and
several
others
who
are
not
in
the
room
to
ground
this
analysis.
We
needed
to
clearly
identify
the
problem
that
a
rent
stabilization
policy
would
be
aiming
to
address.
The
relevant
problem
here
is
renter
cost
burden.
Z
Z
This
chart
shows
the
percentage
in
change
in
rents
in
the
light
blue
and
incomes
in
dark
blue
from
2006
to
2019..
This
is
broken
down
by
income
bracket.
You'll
see
that
for
the
top
quartile
and
medium
income
earners
incomes
over
this
time
period
increased
at
a
significantly
more
rapid
Pace
than
their
rents.
However,
the
opposite
was
true
for
the
bottom
quartile
renter
for
renters,
with
the
lowest
incomes
in
Minneapolis
rents,
dramatically
outpaced
their
incomes
over
this
time
period.
This
is
a
serious
problem.
Z
We
understand
the
problem
of
renter
cost
burden
as
twofold
part
of
the
problem
is
an
income
problem
too
many
for
too
many
people
in
Minneapolis
their
incomes
aren't
enough
to
afford
their
homes
and
other
aspects
of
life.
The
other
part
is
a
supply
problem.
There
aren't
enough
housing
units
and
not
enough
affordable
homes
for
renters
who
have
low
incomes.
Z
The
city
began
work
to
better
understand,
rent
stabilization
policies
following
participation
in
a
national
anti-displacement
policy.
Network
work
that
some
of
you
directly
participated
in
in
2020.
As
Dr
Brennan
mentioned,
the
city
engaged
with
the
University
of
Minnesota's
Center
for
Urban
and
Regional
Affairs
Cura
to
conduct
a
study.
Z
This
report
outlined
the
history
of
rent
stabilization
in
other
cities
and
the
impacts
of
those
policies:
analyzing,
the
Minneapolis
rental
market,
the
rental,
housing
stock,
rent
trends
and
habitability
issues.
Findings
from
the
study
were
presented
at
a
city
council
study
session
and
then
to
further
local
learning
on
this
issue.
Last
spring,
the
Federal
Reserve
Bank
of
Minneapolis,
in
conjunction
with
Uli
Urban
Land
Institute
of
Minnesota,
hosted
a
four-part
series
of
expert
panel
discussions.
These
are
focused
on
rent
regulation
policies
across
the
country
and
their
impacts.
Z
Z
Z
This
slide
represents
the
question
as
it
appeared
on
the
ballot,
and
this
slide
shows
then
the
amended
relevant
language
that
now
exists
in
the
city's
Charter
as
the
language
indicates.
Any
rent
stabilization
policy
adopted
through
this
legislative
process
would
need
to
be
submitted
to
voters
for
approval
on
a
ballot.
Z
Legal
considerations
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
anticipated
impacts
of
a
policy
on
City
goals,
anticipated
fiscal
implications
for
the
city,
including
revenue
and
property
tax
implications
and
the
cost
of
enforcement,
and,
finally,
an
opportunity
cost
analysis,
comparing
other
existing
strategies
that
address
renter
cost
burden.
The
report
then
concludes
with
findings
and
recommendations.
Z
Z
So
here
are
the
components
of
the
two
Frameworks
that
were
fully
developed
by
the
work
group,
they're
titled
framework,
5
and
framework
seven,
because
they
were
part
of
a
larger
list,
a
larger
number
of
options
that
were
considered
by
the
group.
These
are
the
ones
that
the
members
continued
developing
throughout
until
the
end
of
the
process.
Z
Z
It
recommends
no
rent.
Banking,
which
means
rent
banking
is
a
is
a
mechanism
by
which
a
property
owner
could
not
if
they
chose
not
to
increase
the
rent
by
the
full
amount
in
one
year,
they
could
bank
that
amount
or
save
it,
make
up
the
difference
in
a
later
year
for
exemptions,
this
framework
recommends
that
the
policy
would
apply
to
all
types
of
buildings
and
rental
units.
Z
It
does
recommend
allowing
a
property
owner
to
be
able
to
apply,
for
a
one-time
exception
to
the
policy
in
a
given
year
to
account
for
Investments
or
substantial
Capital
Improvements
to
a
unit
for
enforcement.
This
framework
recommends
that
the
city
certify
rent
increases
and
recommends
the
creation
of
a
board
that
would
assist
with
compliance
and
monitoring.
Z
It
also
recommends
the
inclusion
of
an
appeals
process
as
supplemental
policy
recommendations.
This
framework
recommends
the
city
adopt
a
just
cause:
eviction
policy
and
extending
the
existing
pre-eviction
filing
notice
ordinance
framework
7
on
the
right
was
supported
by
11
of
the
25
members
or
44
of
the
group.
Z
Z
This
framework
recommends
exempting
some
types
of
housing,
including
subsidized,
affordable
housing,
new
construction
for
30
years
on
a
rolling
basis,
an
owner
occupied
housing
for
enforcement.
This
framework
recommends
self-certification,
along
with
an
appeals
process,
some
form
of
alternative
dispute
resolution
and
an
annual
analysis
of
the
program
cost.
AA
Thank
you,
Miss
Dobson
and
on
behalf
of
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
legal
aspects
of
run,
control
or
run
stabilization
programs,
but
I'll
be
very
brief
because,
generally,
this
is
more
of
a
policy
determination
or
a
policy
discussion
than
a
legal
one,
at
least
at
this
point,
and
that's
because,
as
you
can
see
for
many
decades
now,
the
Supreme
Court,
through
a
series
of
cases,
has
recognized
the
underlying
validity
of
rent
control
and
rent
stabilization
programs
and
more
of
the
Contemporary
litigation.
AA
AB
Any
new
policy
that
hinders
this
priority
would
be
out
of
alignment
with
both
the
adopted
City
goals
and
the
overall
effective
approach
the
city
has
employed
in
recent
years.
As
part
of
this
analysis,
we
explored
anticipated
impact
to
three
critical
areas:
housing
stability,
housing
quality
and
housing
Supply.
AB
With
regards
to
housing
stability,
we
all
are
in
agreement
that
more
predictable
rent
increases,
assist,
assist
current
renters,
avoid
involuntary
displacement
and
increase
their
sense
of
security.
It
also
assists
current
renters,
who
may
be
interested
in
home
ownership
to
better
plan
and
better
budget
for
a
successful
transition
to
that
space.
However,
rent
increase
cap
would
incent
more
aggressive
rent
increases,
especially
without
an
option
for
rent
banking
vacancy
decontrol,
as
recommended
in
framework
7.
AB
Lastly,
housing
Supply
the
adoption
of
a
rent,
stabilization
policy
with
slow
housing
production,
especially
without
an
exemption
for
new
construction
and
subsidized,
affordable
housing,
as
was
recommended
in
framework
framework.
Seven
later
in
this
presentation,
you
will
be
provided
with
an
overview
of
the
academic
studies
that
support
these
anticipated
impacts.
Allow
me
at
this
time
to
call
on
the
director
coover
who
will
transition
the
discussion
to
the
fiscal
impact
of
rent
stabilization.
AC
AC
AC
We've
interviewed
key
participants
in
the
housing
housing
market
in
the
state
of
Minnesota,
as
well
as
in
the
region,
particularly
and
we've
used
all
of
those
points
of
information
to
calculate
a
range
of
impacts.
So
one
thing
that
this
work
isn't
is
an
academic
study.
We
are
not
we're,
not
economists,
we
are
not
academics.
We
were
we're
providing
a
fiscal
impact
analysis
of
what
this
could
mean
for
the
city.
AC
Thank
you.
So
we'll
walk
through
our
methodology
a
little
bit
more
next,
but
just
to
start
off
with
a
high
level
summary
of
our
findings.
We
find
that
City
revenues
will
be
less
than
current.
Projections
for
housing
related
license
fees,
sales,
taxes
and
franchise
fees.
Under
these
policies,
we
find
that
City
spending
will
be
more
than
current
projections
to
administer
the
two
proposed
Frameworks.
AC
AC
Thank
you.
This
this
slide
is
really
to
show
the
work
that
got
us
started.
These
are
the
academic
papers
that
we
reviewed
to
begin
this
work.
This
is
all
part
of
the
record
on
Limbs
and
part
of
our
report.
If
anyone
wants
to
do
more
reading
on
that,
thank
you
and
for
this
slide,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
off
to
my
colleague,
Angie.
U
Good
afternoon
council
members
committee
members
I'm
Angie
skeldom
I'm,
the
director
of
the
development
finance
department
and,
as
it
pertains
to
the
reference
list
that
we
just
looked
at
I'm,
going
to
spend
a
few
minutes
kind
of
talking
through
what
what
we
really
learned
from
those
studies
because
well,
they
do
focus
on
different
elements
of
rent
stabilization
policies.
But
there
is
agreement
around
the
directionality
of
impact
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
so
the
first
issue
overall,
is
that
these
policies
can
lead
to
a
lower
quantity
of
rental
units
in
the
jurisdiction.
U
The
second
economic
impact
is
that
we
anticipate
a
lower
quality
of
rent
control
of
units
in
the
city
as
well
and
again.
This
is
because
rent
control
policies
can
disincentivize
owners
of
existing,
affordable
housing,
sometimes
referred
to
as
NOAA
housing
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
in
the
marketplace,
from
making
large
sale,
large-scale
investments
in
their
property
when
they
can't
raise
their
rents
to
recoup
those
Investments
over
time.
U
U
U
The
fifth
area
of
economic
impact
is
the
suppression
of
property,
values
and
properties
that
are
classified
classified
as
rental
properties.
This
is
true
for
both
rent,
controlled
and
non-rent,
controlled
properties
and
we're
going
to
look
at
some
detail
and
put
some
numbers
around
the
impact
on
that
as
well
shortly
and
then
the
final
economic
impact
is
just
higher
future
rents,
and
this
is
because,
due
to
a
constraint
and
Supply,
it's
kind
of
the
simple
supply
and
demand
Dynamic
when
the
supply
is
constrained
over
time,
rents
tend
to
increase.
U
So
this
next
slide
puts
some
numbers
around
the
staff's
estimate
as
to
the
impact
on
new
construction
specifically
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
differences
between
framework,
5
and
framework
7
are
meaningful
differences
in
terms
of
the
impact
that
we
anticipate.
However,
both
of
these
Frameworks
will
will
result
in
fewer
new
construction
units
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis,
and
the
table
shows
that
for
framework
five,
this
is
a
10-year
cumulative
impact.
We
would
anticipate
somewhere
between
25
000
and
30
500
fewer
newly
constructed
units
in
the
city
than
would
occur.
U
In
the
absence
of
this
policy
for
framework,
seven,
the
impact
is
less
but
still
meaningful
somewhere
between
9917
900
units
and
I
should
note
that
you'll
see
a
range
in
most
of
our
estimates,
because
it's
difficult
to
exactly
predict
what
will
happen
over
time,
but
we
are
confident
in
the
directionality
of
these
impacts.
Within
These
ranges.
U
Same
thing
happens
when
you
consider
the
impact
on
the
existing
rental
housing
stock,
so
the
city
is,
of
course,
always
losing
housing
over
time
due
to
it
aging
out
and
converting
to
other
uses
Etc.
But
again
we
anticipate
that
both
of
these
Frameworks
that
we
analyzed
will
accelerate
the
attrition
or
the
loss
of
units
in
these
areas
for
framework
five
somewhere
between
7900
and
12
500
units
and
for
framework,
seven
somewhere
between
two
thousand
and
five
thousand
units
again
cumulatively,
over
10
years.
U
This
graphic
is
just
a
graphic
representation
of
the
tables
and
the
numbers
that
we
were
just
looking
at
the
on
the
left
is
framework
seven
and
on
the
right
is
framework.
Five.
The
top
line
is
the
projection
of
growth
in
stock.
That
is
our
Baseline.
It
is
a
one
percent
base,
growth
assumption
which
is
consistent
with
our
recent
history
in
terms
of
growth
of
units,
and
then
you
can
see
the
ranges
of
impact
for
framework
seven
and
framework
five.
U
We
think
it's
important
to
talk
about
the
Laos,
the
loss
of
housing
stock
and
the
loss
of
market
rate
housing
stock,
because
our
our
housing
stock
matters,
the
way
that
we
get
out
of
a
housing
crisis,
is
to
build
more
housing,
and
so
the
the
development
of
all
types
of
housing
plays
a
number
of
important
roles
in
our
city
and
its
economy
and
our
ability
to
achieve
adopted
policy
goals.
It
provides
places
for
people
of
all
incomes
to
live.
U
It
helps
to
balance
the
rental
market
which
actually
helps
to
stabilize
rents,
and
that
is
in
fact,
what
we've
experienced
in
the
Twin
Cities
in
recent
history,
with
the
growth,
the
successful
growth
of
housing
that
director
Port
referenced
earlier.
It
also
adds
to
the
market
value
of
our
city
and
allows
new
residents
to
share
in
the
costs
the
share
in
supporting
the
public
costs
and
which
reduces
costs
for
existing
residents.
AC
Thank
you,
council
members,
so
this
chart
shows
you
the
specific
kinds
of
revenues
that
we
expect
to
be
impacted
by
our
analysis
of
rent
stabilization
policies,
so
the
first
line
is
around
development,
license
permits
and
fees.
These
are
all
revenues
that
we
collect
related
to
new
construction
in
the
city.
The
next
one
down
on
the
line
is
rental,
license
fees
these
are
paid
annually
annually
for
each
rental
unit
in
the
city,
the
the
third
one
is
local
sales
tax,
so
we
have
a
number
of
different
local
sales
taxes
that
we
collect
at
the
city.
AC
For
this
analysis,
we
looked
only
at
one
of
the
five
just
at
the
the
sales
tax
collected
across
the
city.
We
have
a
few
others
that
are
focused
really
on
downtown.
We
decided
we
to
leave
those
out
of
this
analysis
and
just
look
at
what
are
the
sales
tax
generated
for
folks
that
live
in
the
city
and
how
might
that
be
impacted
by
a
slowing
of
the
production
of
new
residential
units.
The
last
one
is
franchise
fees.
AC
AC
AC
When
we're
looking
at
all
four
of
the
revenue
streams
that
we
took
a
look
at
for
framework,
five,
we're
looking
at
a
cumulative
10-year
loss
of
108.3
million
dollars
to
139.6
million
dollars
for
framework
seven,
we
see
a
smaller
loss
again
over
10
years
of
39.3
million
to
74.8
million.
We
took
a
look
at
10
years,
I
think
for
all
of
the
slides
you've
seen
around
the
the
economic
impact
you've
seen
that
10-year
window.
AC
We
started
out
looking
at
five
years
just
because
that
we
have
a
five-year
Financial
direction
that
we
publish
and
update
each
year
as
a
part
of
our
budget
process.
We
received
some
feedback
while
we
were
doing
this
work
from
folks
that
are
experienced.
Researchers
in
this
field
that
10
years
is
really
a
more
reasonable
time
period
to
look
at
for
these
policies
to
take
effect.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
everything
in
that
cumulative
10-year,
Mark,
yeah
I,
think
that's
it
go
ahead
to
the
next
one
and
I
will
pass
it
back
to
Angie.
AC
U
We
should
also
note
that
the
that
Levy
will
increase
over
time
on
its
own
due
to
inflation
and
obligations
related
to
City
costs,
but
really
again,
it's
important
to
emphasize
that
the
growth
in
the
housing
stock
that
the
city
has
experienced
recently
has
helped
protect
Minneapolis
residents
from
feeling
the
full
impact
of
that
growth.
That
happens
strictly
due
to
inflation,
as
it
relates
to
this
policy
specifically
because
of
that
total
Levy
amount
is
fixed.
U
Any
changes
will
not
impact
the
city
budget,
there's
no
loss
of
Revenue
to
the
city,
but
there
will
be
a
shift
that
will
incur
on
who
primarily
incurs
those
costs.
So,
in
the
short
run,
we
anticipate
that
again,
the
market
value
valuation
of
rental
properties
will
Decline,
and
so
other
categories,
commercial,
industrial
or
homeownership
property
will
bear
the
burden
of
that
shift.
U
And
given
the
fact
that
commercial
industrial
Levy
in
the
city
is
also
facing
unique
pressures
coming
out
of
the
pandemic,
we
anticipate
that
the
any
the
burden
of
the
rental
shift
will
be
further
pushed
onto
homeowners.
So
that's
what
we
anticipate
will
happen.
Kind
of
in
the
immediate
to
short
run
over
the
longer
term.
Both
renters
and
homeowners
will
feel
the
burden
of
this
shift,
because
fewer
residents
in
the
city
means
fewer
people
to
spread
that
cost
too.
U
So
this
next
chart
again
put
some
numbers
around
the
concept
that
we
just
introduces
and
shows
what
we're
anticipating
in
terms
of
the
impact
to
the
market,
values
of
rental
property
and
staff,
is
anticipating
a
decline
in
value
for
rental
properties
of
approximately
20
percent.
This
has
been
empirically
observed
in
Saint
Paul
and
is
actually
a
pretty
conservative
estimate
of
impact
based
on
some
of
the
academic
literature.
U
So
again,
because
the
levy
is
fixed,
there
will
be
no
impact
in
terms
of
Revenue
that
is
collected,
but
the
people
upon
whom
these
costs
are
shifted
will
experience
that
shift
as
a
cost
to
them.
So
we
wanted
to
estimate
what
that
would
look
like
and
what
we're
anticipating
for
framework,
seven
again
cumulatively
over
10
years,
is
somewhere
between
an
812
million
and
1.02
billion
dollar
shift
on
Premier
7,
somewhere
between
410
million
and
649
million.
The
final
column
shows
you
again
kind
of
middle
of
the
range
middle
of
the
10-year
cumulative
impact
range.
U
My
final
slide
is
kind
of
a
combination
of
what
you
just
heard
from
Amelia
and
director
Krueger
in
terms
of
the
loss
anticipated
loss
of
fee
revenue
and
sales
tax
revenue,
combined
with
this
cost
shift
around
the
market
values
and
also
inclusive
of
the
information
that
director
Garnett
will
be
describing
next
in
terms
of
the
administrative
cost
to
the
city.
So
this
is
kind
of
all
in
Impact
same
same
way,
the
table
works
on
this
one.
U
So
again,
the
average
annual
cost
all
in
on
framework
5
is
estimated
at
around
106
million
a
year
on
average
and
for
framework,
seven
is
60
million
a
year.
So
again
that
represents
either
the
shift
costs
or
the
amount
of
savings
that
would
have
to
be
found
in
the
city
budget.
If
the
council
wanted
to
adopt
a
policy,
keep
it
kind
of
not
not
neutral
to
the
to
the
taxpayers
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
director
Garnett
well
holy
to
talk
about
administration
of
the
program.
AD
We
conduct
proactive
and
complaint
inspections
works
with
Pro.
We
work
with
property
owners
to
to
come
into
compliance
with
licensed
standards
and
support
renters,
who
are
concerned
about
retaliation,
retaliatory
action
from
the
property
owner
enforcing
a
rent,
stabilization
policy
through
reg
Services,
existing
rental
license
program,
and
it
enables
the
city
to
leverage
existing
resources
and
strengthens
capacity.
The
enforcement
component
of
the
rent
cap
is
not
related
to
safety
and
habitability
of
the
unit
and
therefore
not
an
effective
use
of
our
Inspection
Services
Division.
AD
AD
I
will
say
that
this
image
was
utilized
because
we
have
rental
units
in
every
part
of
this
city,
and
I
also
want
to
convey
that
the
highlighted
or
those
darker
areas
are
density.
Not
more
units
I
mean
we're
seeing
more
of
our
new
construction
apartments
in
the
downtown
area.
So
again,
this
hits
every
neighborhood
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis
to
understand
potential
impacts
of
rent
stabilization
policy
in
the
city.
AD
The
two
proposed
Frameworks
developed
by
the
rent
stabilization
work
group
serve
as
the
foundation
of
the
analysis,
the
two
rent
stabilizations
policies,
Frameworks
Center,
on
these
five
high-level
areas.
What
units
are
included?
What
happens
when
the
unit
turns
over
and
a
couple
folks
have
talked
about
it
already?
How
much
can
rent
be
increased?
AD
How
do
we
confirm
the
rent
increases
and
who
manages
disputes
next
slide
before
we
go
into
the
enforcement
specifics
of
the
framework,
it
is
important
to
understand
the
pool
of
units
in
the
context
of
the
framework.
Non-Exempt
means
that
the
units
would
be
subject
to
the
rent
stabilization
policy,
the
city
licenses,
as
I
stated
107
000
units
annually.
AD
So
a
framework
five
This
is
complicated,
so
this
I've
been
told.
This
image
is
really
helpful
for
folks
to
understand
so
framework
5,
historically,
28
of
all
units
have
rent
increases
over
higher
than
the
three
percent.
So
if
we
see
that
large,
it's
all
in
a
hundred
and
seven
thousand
units,
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
exemptions,
Capital
Improvements.
AD
So
if
a
property
owner
decides
to
improve
their
property,
let's
say
gut
and
renovate
the
kitchen
and
bathrooms
that
will
be
pulled
out
and
I
will
note
that
this
number
is
based
on
the
permits
that
are
pulled,
that
we'd
see
annually.
So
this
is
actually
what
our
Market,
our
housing
market,
is
doing
again.
Historically
69
300
units
historically
they're
under
the
proposed
limits,
so
these
units
they're
not
touched,
and
then
the
last
we
see
historically
over
the
proposed
limit
of
29
000.
AD
again
I
want
to
indicate
that
any
one
of
these
on
that
on
that
right,
the
rents
could
range
from
a
thousand
to
six
thousand.
This
is
all
in
all
our
properties,
regardless
of
rent
his
framework.
Seven-
and
this
is
this-
is
more
specific
and
I
will
note
that
this
is
complaint
based
on
the
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
exemptions
here.
So
initially
we
have
the
107.
AD
But
if
we
look
at
units
less
than
30
years
old
that
pulls
off
or
peels
off
Thirty
One
Thousand
nine
hundred,
then
we
have
subsidized
units
that
are
exempt
that
pulls
off
another
twenty
four
thousand.
Then
we
have
a
exempt
homesteady
unit.
So
if
you're
living
in
a
property-
and
you
rent
it
you're
homesteaded-
that's
about
6175
you're
pulled
out.
So
then
we
get
to
potentially
non-exempt.
Then
that
leaves
us
with
forty
four
thousand
nine
hundred
and
twenty
five
exempt
estimated
renter
turnover.
AD
So
we
see
about
17,
858
and
non-exempt,
which
would
be
about
twenty
seven
thousand
and
then
historically,
we
know
that
24
000
are
under
the
proposed
limit.
But
then
we
peeled
off
additional
information
and
historically
framework
five
would
would
get
at
the
population
that
we
believe
is
really
struggling
similar
to
the
one
of
the
first
slides
we've
seen
with
the
income
disparities
between
income
and
rent.
AD
So
what
does
it
mean
for
a
city
to
actually
have
a
policy
that
makes
sense
and
then
having
the
staff
in
the
wherewithal
to
actually
enforce
on
it?
So
when
we
looked
at
this
information,
the
implementation
of
the
rent,
stabilization
policy
represents
and
I
want
to
be
clear.
This
will
be
a
new
enforcement
program
and
work
that
would
require
a
new
dedicated
staff
team.
Well
best
practices
and
existing
infrastructure
may
be
leveraged.
In
standing
up
this
new
staff
team.
The
work
can't
be
added
onto
our
existing
work
portfolio,
so
this
would
be
a
new
program.
AD
In
addition
to
the
work
analysis
outline
for
the
new
staff,
there
will
be
demands
on
the
existing
staff
and
capacity
prior
to
and
during
the
implementation
of
either
rent
stabilization
framework.
These
Staffing
models
were
developed
by
conducting
informal
interviews
with
with
internal
and
external
stakeholders,
planning
out
a
process
for
enforce
enforcement
and
workloads
based
on
enforcement
levels
of
our
of
the
respective
framework.
AD
In
addition
to
the
workload
analysis
outlined
for
the
new
team,
there
will
be
demands
on
existing
staff
capacity
prior
to
enduring
the
implementation
of
this
framework.
So
this
is
significant
depending
upon
which
framework
we
go.
We
go
from
7
to
12
new
ftes
and
it
hits
majority
of
regulatory
services,
but
also
we
did
take
into
consideration
3-1-1,
as
we
would
hope
that
renters
would
call
into
that
number
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
their
their
calls
are
being
answered.
AD
So
this
is
the
last
slide,
and
this
is
important
because
I
think
this
is
really
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
the
implementation
cost,
while
the
number
of
renters
impacted
and
level
of
resources
needed
to
manage
a
rent,
stabilization
enforcement
program
is
driven
by
the
framework.
Both
would
require
significant
investment
to
implementation,
to
implement
program,
operating
costs
of
supplemental
to
staff
costs
include
technology,
mailing
translation
services,
printing
marketing
and
advertising.
AD
AD
I
also
want
to
manage
expectations
that
a
14-month
wrap-up
period
is
needed
before
rent
stabilization
policy
could
be
enforced.
This
Planning
and
Development
period
would
include
hiring
and
onboarding
new
staff
sourcing
and
standing
up
technology,
creating
policies,
procedures
and
outreaches
Outreach
materials
and
educating
our
stakeholders.
AD
So,
in
closing
on
my
part,
framework,
five
would
be
1.5
million
dollars
a
year
and
framework.
Seven
would
be
one
point
about
a
million
dollars.
I
also
want
to
note
that
as
our
housing
stock
ages
and
as
more
housing
stock
comes
online,
that
increases
our
capacity,
so
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
my.
The
ftes
will
scale
if
we're
to
enforce
this
appropriately.
Z
Z
Z
We
considered
the
effectiveness
of
existing
City
strategies
to
get
at
Cost
burden,
looking
at
the
impact
on
a
household
and
the
cost
to
the
city
to
deliver
that
impact.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
state
and
federal
action
is
a
part
of
addressing
this
problem
as
well.
We
know
that
we're
confident
that,
in
this
legislative
excuse
me
legislative
session
we'll
be
delivering
at
least
some
rent
assistance.
But
this
work
focuses
on
known
City
strategies.
Z
Staff
acknowledge
that
certainly
some
existing
renters
would
benefit
from
increased
housing
stability
with
a
policy.
However,
there
is
a
concern
that
a
policy
would
have
unintended
consequences,
leading
to
Greater
housing
and
stability
for
renters
long
term
and
Property
Owners
may
be
incentivized
to
increase
rents
more
dramatically
than
they
otherwise
might
have,
or
pull
units
off
the
market.
Z
So
the
conclusion
of
this
work
staff
came
to
these
recommendations.
Based
on
the
findings.
We've
discussed
staff
recommend
against
the
adoption
of
a
rent.
Stabilization
policy
I'll
highlight
that
the
concern
that
right
now
is
a
particularly
risky
time
to
adopt
to
take
any
action,
really
that
would
impede
the
development
of
new
rental
housing
units.
The
city
and
Market
are
still
recovering
from
economic
impacts
of
the
pandemic,
and
it's
critical
that
the
city
continue
developing
new
units
for
our
residents.
Z
Z
Z
A
A
You
have
been
an
amazing
addition
to
the
budget
office,
the
finance
team,
a
great
leader
in
our
city
and
it's
a
really
major
loss
for
Minneapolis
and
yay
Kim,
Keller
I,
guess
in
St,
Louis
Park,
and
let
us
be
weary
of
the
fact
that
this
could
continue
to
happen.
But
we
do
appreciate
all
of
your
incredible
work.
You've
done
a
great
job
and
been
really
wonderful
to
work
with
as
part
of
the
budget
process
and
a
part
of
this
very
important
team.
N
You
trade
Goodman
and
thank
you
for
everyone
for
this
presentation
and
all
the
work
that
went
into
it.
My
first
question
is
in
regards
to
it
being
that
56
of
the
work
group
water
for
framework
five,
which,
in
my
opinion,
is
a
clear
majority
of
the
work
group.
Can
someone
walk
me
through
the
statement
that
there
was
no
recommendation
made
from
the
work
group
when
56
percent
is
a
majority,
and
given
that
the
city
council
did
unanimously
approve
this
work
group.
Z
Thank
you,
chair,
Goodman
and
council
member
Chavez.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So
the
resolution
that
this
body
passed
last
April
State
stated
you
know
a
request
for
policy
recommendations
and
the
specific
components
of
a
framework.
The
resolution
stated
that
if
the
group
could
not
agree
on
a
framework,
the
work
group
could
present
up
to
two
policy
Frameworks
to
this
body
for
consideration.
Z
As
director
Brennan
outlined
in
her
introduction,
there
wasn't
agreement
amongst
the
body.
There
were
25
members,
a
majority
56
percent
did
support
framework
five
at
the
end
throughout
the
process
and
11
members
supported
an
alternative,
and
the
resolution
did
not
Define
simple
majority
as
the
as
the
definition
of
agreement,
so
because
there
was
not
agreement
amongst
the
group.
That
is
why
we
conducted
analysis
of
the
two
Frameworks
that
made
it
and
were
fully
developed
throughout
throughout
the
process.
N
I
appreciate
that
I
I
mean
I
would
say
that
question
one
passed
with.
You
know
over
50
percent.
We
established
that
question
two
failed
question
three
passed
and
allowed
us
to
explore
this
right.
So
I
would
just
say
that
simple
majority
I
think
to
anybody
means
that
that
work
group
decided
that
they
chose
what
they
want
to
move
forward.
But
but
I
appreciate
the
context.
N
Z
Yes,
chair
Goodman
and
to
council
member
Chavez.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I'm
happy
to
provide
some
detail
about
the
process
that
staff
underwent
so
as
as
we've
noted,
the
resolution
called
for
this
analysis
and
so
beginning
last
summer.
So
the
the
resolution
was
adopted
in
April
and
then
modified
simultaneously
to
when
we
were
considering
applications
to
put
together
the
work
group
membership
itself.
We
worked
through
the
city's
procurement
policies.
Initially
we
worked.
Z
We
submitted
an
RFP
through
the
target
market
program
which
the
city
has
developed
to
provide
opportunities
for
local
and
small
businesses
to
do
work
with
the
city.
What
I?
What
I
need
is
identified
for
an
external
partner?
No
bids
were
received
through
that
process
and
so
immediately
after
it
closed,
we
opened
up
that
bid
or
that
bidding
process
to
the
public.
So
anyone
could
apply.
Z
Staff
did
complete,
dedicated
Outreach
to
local
and
National
entities
that
we
thought
might
be
interested
in
the
opportunity
and
throughout
that
process
which
we
you
know,
we
followed
the
procurement
process.
We
did
not
receive
any
bids
through
that
process
either,
and
so,
once
that
timeline
had
completed,
we
would
an
additional
step
and
staff
did
some
dedicated
recruitment
to
some
known
again,
local
and
National
partners
that
we
had
you
know
heard
about
who
might
have
the
resources
and
the
interest
in
doing
this
work.
Z
Z
N
I'm
not
sure,
if
that's
what
they
think,
but,
but
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
that
brought
these
concerns
to
me
is
that
I,
don't
think
the
city
council
was
walked
through
this
process
and
Council
owners.
Weren't
engaged
that
this
was
happening
and
that
there
was
no
one
accepting
these
contracts
to
do
this
work
so
I
think
that
that
would
have
been
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
do
our
own
Outreach,
but
I'll
just
move
on
to
more
about
the
analysis
component.
Z
Do
the
chair
and
to
council
member
Chavez
I
believe:
are
you
referring
to
the
list
of
studies
that
is
identified
on
a
slide
in
this
presentation,
since
I
didn't
put
that
slide
together,
I'm
wondering
if
someone
else
I
mean
I
would
say
we
in
the
background
I
gave
earlier.
You
know
the
panel
that
the
fed
the
Federal
Reserve
of
Minneapolis
in
conjunction
with
Uli,
that
was
a
really
helpful
knowledge
sharing
process.
Z
It
was
again
there
were
four
panels
over
the
course
of
a
few
months
and
through
that
process
we
identified
a
lot
of
the
key
players,
both
kind
of
practice,
practitioners
at
local
jurisdictions,
Nationwide
and
academics,
who
had
done
work
studying,
rent
stabilization
I
would
say
that
process
was
really
helpful,
as
well
as
the
the
the
academic
studies
that
are
cited
in
the
report.
That
Kira
did
for
the
city
before,
but
is
there
anything
else
to
add.
AC
Thank
you,
so
much
council
members,
I
just
the
other
thing
I
would
add,
is
after
we
started
getting
this
list
together
and
talking
about
the
you
know,
important
research
that
we're
using.
We
did
talk
to
other
researchers
and
experts
in
the
field
to
say
what
are
our
blind
spots.
Are
there
other
things
that
we're
missing
in
that,
and
so
that
was
a
step
in
our
process
before
we
got
here
too.
N
Question:
okay,
thank
you,
Chuck
have
been
I.
Have
one
last
question
in
regards
to
that.
So
can
you
walk
me
through
how
we
got
to
a
conclusion
that
run
civilization
would
impact
development
in
this
analysis?
I
was
reading
through
the
Cure
report
and
it
said
that
there's
little
empirical
evidence
to
show
that
relation
policies
negatively
impact
new
construction.
It
also
says
that
there's
little
evidence
that
rent
regulations
cause
a
reduction
in
housing
quality,
so
I
want
to
get
to
why
the
Cure
report
is
different
from
our
run,
civilization
analysis.
Z
Chair
Goodman
into
council
member
Chavez,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I'll
I'll
note
one
piece
and
pass
it
to
director
skildam.
That
is,
that
is
absolutely
what
what
is
stated
in
the
Cure
report.
Since
the
publication
of
that
cure
report,
we
had
the
kind
of
really
helpful
benefit
of
our
city
across
the
river
adopting
a
policy,
and
so
the
process
that
they
went
through
would
provided
a
lot
of
guidance
and
I'll.
Z
U
And
so
that
is
the
reason
that,
in
addition
to
the
academic
research,
we
took
the
the
step
that
Kira
took
as
well
in
their
work
to
talk
to
people
who
are
participants
in
the
local
market.
So
we
could
better
understand
what
their
reactions
would
be
to
particular
policies,
specifically
in
our
jurisdiction.
A
K
V
Madam
chair
councilmember
Osman,
at
the
beginning
of
when
the
resolution
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
we
staff
weighed
in,
and
we
said
that
we
thought
that
longer
time
more
time
to
do
this
kind
of
detailed
economic
impact
analysis
would
be
extremely
helpful
as
a
way
of
comparison.
For
example,
the
inclusionary
zoning
policy
that
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
was
the
result
of
three
years
of
of
analysis
of
intensive
stakeholder
engagement,
a
lot
of
economic
analysis,
Etc
and,
and
we
would
have
recommended
more
time,
be
dedicated.
We
would
have
recommended
more.
V
You
know
bringing
in
a
third
party
Economist
to
do
some
additional
analysis,
but
we
were
constrained
by
the
timeline
of
the
council
in
achieving
a
question
for
the
ballot
in
2023.
So
that
was
our
understanding
of
the
constraints
that
we
had.
You
know
at
the
longest
first
quarter
of
the
year
to
do
this
analysis
and
in
In
fairness
to
the
ideas
that
we
would
have
had
a
consultant
on
board
to
help
us
like
in
the
sort
of
you
know.
V
That
said,
given
the
short
time
frame
that
we
had,
we
really
did
I
mean
we
dropped
a
lot
of
work
that
was
happening
and
we
again
about
30
staff
from
five
different
departments
that
were
all
busy
doing
other
things
and
have
all
of
those
things
still
waiting
for
them.
We
we
brought
as
much
capacity
as
we
could
to
doing
doing
this
analysis
and
I
think
we,
we
feel
very
good
about
the
level
of
analysis
that
was
done.
K
K
K
You
know
how
much
rent
one
I've
been
sitting
in
Minneapolis
and
how
some
residents,
especially
around
to
residents,
are
in
a
crisis
and
would
it
would
you
think
that
you
can
have
you
look
into?
Let's
say
what
the
impact
will
be
10
years
from
now
for
not
having
or
unstabilization
or
rent
control
or
any
policy.
V
Sure
I'm
Adam,
chair
councilmember
Osman,
that
is
the
framework
that
we
tried
to
use,
was
a
10-year
sort
of
lens
looking
out,
because
so
many
of
the
effects
that
we
described
today
and
in
this
report
really
have
are
our
effects
that
take
a
while
so
and
I'm
I
I.
If
you
want
to
stand
up
and
jump
in
on
this
too,
but
you
know
I
the
so
the
in
the
findings
that
are
in
the
report,
that
is
looking
with
a
longer
term
that
you
know
10-year
lens.
V
But
the
other
thing
I
will
say
about
you
know
the
the
analysis
that
was
done
is
that
you
know,
since
I
brought
up
the
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance.
For
example,
you
know
that
analysis
was
done,
assuming
no
rent
stabilization
policy,
so
that
is
something
that
we
didn't
do
in
our
analysis,
but
it's
something
we
probably
will
would
need
to
do
in
an
analysis
is
review
whether
or
not
an
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance
is
even
feasible
anymore,
with
rent
stabilization
policy.
V
U
So
that
is,
of
course,
not
every
individual
renters
experience
at
all,
but
across
the
board
the
market
has
actually
quite
stabilized
locally
and
that's
largely
due
to
the
again
successful
policies
that
have
been
focused
on
increasing
growth
and
increasing
the
development
of
housing
in
the
Twin
Cities
overall,
again
just
kind
of
the
simple
supply
and
demand.
Thank
you
thank.
AC
A
B
A
B
Z
First
reason
being
the
time
the
timeline
which
we've
already
discussed
a
really
tight
timeline,
especially
for
some
of
the
bigger
National
firms,
the
timeline
just
wasn't
in
alignment
with
their
process
and
how
they
work
for
getting
approval
and
that
kind
of
thing.
The
second
is
some
of
some
substantive
concerns:
around
availability
of
data
and
availability
or
confidence,
inability
to
project
to
make
projections
based
on
a
local
market,
and
then
the
third
piece
was
that
there
was
some
hesitance
there's
some
hesitance
to
engage
in
this
topic.
Z
There's
a
lot
of
political
there's,
a
lot
of
opinions
around
this
topic
right
and
a
lot
of-
and
we
heard
some
sensitivity
to
engaging
in
a
project
like
this
out
of
a
concern
that
a
work
product
might
be
used
to
advance
or
negate
a
political
position
that
the
The
Firm
might
not
feel
comfortable
with.
So
I
would
say
those
are
kind
of
the
nature
of
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
heard
great.
B
Thank
you
next
question
is:
could
someone
speak
to
the
effects
in
Saint
Paul?
So
what
we've
read
in
the
paper
heard
from
people
in
the
development
business
is
that
the
financing
for
projects
in
St
Paul's
dried
up,
that
their
production
has
dropped
while
the
same
time
same
year,
our
production
has
increased.
If
someone
could
I'm
sure
you
Analyze
That.
U
U
B
U
Chair
Goodman
Council
memory
mobile,
it's
not
an
exact
analogy,
but
I
would
say
that
framework
5
looks
more
like
what
was
originally
passed
in
St
Paul,
but
not
identical
and
framework.
Seven
looks
a
little
bit
more
like
what
they
is
is
the
current
law
of
the
land
in
St
Paul
right
now,
so
they
did
introduce
some
exemptions
and
some
different
appeals
process.
U
I,
don't
have
like
the
list
in
front
of
me,
but
we
can
sure
provide
that
too
of
of
exactly
what
the
changes
were
in
those
policies
across
time,
but
largely
it
was
due
to
what
I
would
call
anecdotal
evidence,
but
is
certainly
their
daily
experience
in
terms
of
the
the
difficulties
and
problems.
This
created
around
specific
developments
that
were
already
in
the
pipeline
in
St
Paul.
So
there
have
been
a
few
projects
that
have
in
fact
closed
and
moved
forward
since
the
changes
to
the
policy
in
St
Paul,
but
they
are
doing
so.
U
U
B
U
Chair
Goodman,
council
member
rainville,
you
know
I
I,
think
that
certainly
it
provides
empirical
evidence
to
us
about
the
investment
of
opportunities
in
our
Market
relative
to
other
markets
around
the
country.
So,
yes,
we
would
get
more
information
on
that
specifically
over
time.
I
think
that
staff
would
say
that
the
overall
directionality
of
the
impact,
though
that
we've
presented
in
our
report,
is
what
we
would
expect
to
see
so
over
time.
I,
don't
think
that
it
would
is
likely
to
change
the.
U
AC
Thank
you,
chair,
Goodman
and
council
members.
I
would
just
restate
that
we
weren't
necessarily
evaluating
success
for
all
rent
State
program
stabilization.
We
were
asked
really
narrowly
to
look
at
what
are
our
city
goals
around
more
people
living
in
the
city,
more
rental
units,
more
affordable
housing,
and
how
does
this
stack
up
against
those
specific
goals,
and
that
is
what
we
find
a
negative
impact.
God.
A
You
councilmember
rainville
I
will
note
that
council
members,
trunktai
and
Ellison
elected
to
defer
to
council
members
pain
and
Jenkins,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
that
way
and
I
will
assume.
That
means
that
they
will
ask
for
another
half
hour
hour
at
the
next
meeting
and
we
are
going
to
discuss
that.
But
council
member
Payne,
you
have
waited
a
long
time.
So
you
you
thank
you,
council,
member,
chug,
Tai
we're
going
to
turn
to
you
for
seven
minutes.
Sir.
AE
Thank
you,
chair
Goodman,
thanks
for
your
hospitality,
so
albanus
prefaces
with
outlining
some
of
my
expectations
and
I
think
you've
been
done.
A
really
good
job
of
kind
of
providing
the
context
around
like
whether
or
not
my
expectations
were
feasible
in
terms
of
how
much
time
you
had
and
whether
or
not
you
had
the
expertise
necessary
through
RFP
and
partnership,
but
my
expectation
was
to
see
some
sort
of
statistical
model
that
was
looking
at
various
parameters,
whether
it
is
rent
control
as
like
a
dummy
variable
in
the
statistical
model.
AE
Don't
think
that
we
again
had
the
time
and
resources
to
get
to
my
expectation
of
an
empirical
answer
to
this
question,
and
so
that's
a
long
setup
for
my
actual
question,
which
is
you
have
your
projections
of
the
decrease
in
existing
rental
housing
for
both
Frameworks
and
that
ranges
somewhere
between
0.9
percent
to
two
percent
annually
and,
as
I
said,
my
expectation
would
have
been.
You
know
some
sort
of
regression
analysis,
statistical
model
that
could
give
us
some
confidence
around
what
the
actual
cause
and
effect
relationship
is.
AE
AC
Thank
you,
council
members,
so
I,
that's
your!
Your
Preamble
is
very
helpful
for
us
to
try
and
sort
of
understand
the
the
difference
between
expectations
and
what
we
did
produce
because,
as
you
said,
we
and
as
I
sort
of
gave
a
brief
overview.
We
approached
this
more
like
a
fiscal
note
than
like
an
academic
study,
so
I
think
that
there
is
a
mismatch
there,
but
what
I
will
say
is
to
get
to
those
specific
ranges
of
decreases.
We
largely
looked
at
the
the
academic
studies
that
resulted
in
a
specific
percentage
decline.
AC
So
thinking
like
the
one
top
of
my
mind
is
the
research
done
around
San
Francisco
and
the
I
think
25
percentage
decrease
in
rental
units
over
the
time
period
that
they
looked
at
that's
we.
We
looked
at
sort
of
the
variety
of
studies
that
had
that
kind
of
percentage
drop
applied
it
to
our
own
numbers
here
in
the
cedaron
projections
around
rental
units.
In
addition
to
just
sort
of
picking,
we
know
we're
not
San
Francisco.
AC
So,
in
addition
to
using
those
data,
that's
where
the
sort
of
qualitative
work
that
my
counterparts
in
development
Finance
their
work,
interviewing
people
that
work
in
the
actual
the
Minnesota
housing
market
to
try
and
understand
how
that
that
could
relate
to
our
city
again,
to
put
out
ranges
to
try
and
get
close.
We
don't
we
that's.
We
don't
have
an
exact
number,
because
we
don't
have
a
model,
but
we
tried
to
say
here's.
What
we've
seen
in
other
studies
was
what
actual
economists
have
determined
in
other
cities.
AE
And
then
a
follow-up
question
again
kind
of
with
that
Preamble
still
applying
we're
trying
to
look
at
the
cause
and
effect
relationship
of
run
stabilization
policy,
but
we
don't
have
any
analysis
of
a
cause
effect,
relationship
to
say,
interest
rates
and
what
downward
pressure
that
is
putting
on
new
unit
production.
We
don't
have
a
cause
effect
analysis
on
costs
right,
so
I
did
my
own
kind
of
like
lit
review
and
stakeholder
interviews
and
one
of
the
big
issues
that
a
lot
of
the
property
owners
have
is
that
they
say
their
costs
are
skyrocketing.
AE
Well,
the
FED
Reserve
is
increasing
our
interest
rates
to
try
to
change
that
outcome,
so
that
increase
in
interest
rates
is
putting
downward
pressure
on
new
new
unit
production.
But
it's
also
putting
downward
pressure
on
cost.
So
I'm
trying
like
I,
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
missing
information
that
we
have,
because
for
every
one
of
these
points
that
you
say
is
negative.
There
is
a
potential
policy
solution
to
that
point
right.
AE
So
if
the
negative
impact
is
increasing
run
year
over
year,
so
that
landlords
are
at
least
maximizing
that
rental
increase,
that
they're
permitted
to
I
know
that
some
folks
on
the
Deus
are
interested
in
rent
banking.
That's
a
complete
counter
policy
to
that
effect.
That's
right
and
so
I
feel
like
we,
we
could
use
quite
a
bit
more
information
to
look
at
not
just
like
here
goes
some
of
our
goals,
and
here
goes
either
the
positive
or
negative
relationship
to
the
outcome
of
those
goals.
AC
That's
right,
chair
Goodman
and
council
members.
We
because
of
the
limited
time
and
the
time
spent
trying
to
get
the
third
party.
We
really
tried
to
focus
narrowly
on
our
charge
right,
City
goals,
just
as
you
laid
out.
How
does
this
get
us
closer
or
further
away
from
our
city
goals?
What
you're
talking
about
sort
of
a
more
nuanced,
hear
the
hear
the
factors
that
aren't
so
good
and
here's
some
ways
to
mitigate
them
or
hear
some
other
options
outside
of
the
two
Frameworks
that
we
looked
at
I.
AC
AE
Then
I'll
just
kind
of
wrap
up.
My
question
of
basically
your
entire
narrative
or
analysis
follows
this
kind
of
Base
Assumption
of
this
decrease
of
0.9
to
2.2
percent
annually.
So
from
there
you
say:
okay
here
goes.
The
number
of
units
impacted
here
goes
the
cost
per
unit
or
cost
to
enforce.
Based
on
these
assumptions,
essentially,
everything
follows
based
on
the
confidence
we
have
in
those
numbers
right.
AC
And
chair
Goodman
council
members
that
is
correct
and
I
think
again.
That
is
why
we
try
to
put
forward
a
range
just
to
say
you
know
from
the
research
we
looked
at
from
the
conversations
we
had
to
understand
the
local
market.
We
feel
very
confident
in
the
sort
of
Direction
compared
to
our
goals.
The
ranges
are
trying
to
sort
of
put
our
arms
around
the
magnitude,
but
we
don't
feel
confident
to
put
a
single
number
out
there.
So
yeah
I
think
that's
our
oh
yep.
U
U
This
report,
as
well
to
the
best
available
data
that
we
had
and
we
did
try
to
really
show
our
work
on
how
we
got
to
the
numbers
that
we're
presenting
in
this
and
they're
detailed
in
the
appendix
kind
of
step
by
step.
And
if
you
do
have
any
questions
about
that
analysis.
We'd
certainly
be
happy
to
kind
of
meet
with
you
and
walk
you
through
yeah.
A
S
AF
Thank
you,
chair,
Goodman
and
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
participate
in
your
committee
meeting
I
know
my
seven
minutes
has
taken
away
seven
minutes
from
a
Committee
Member,
so
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity.
I
didn't
want
to
just
note
for
some
of
our
audience
members
who
may
not
be
in
this
Chambers.
Very
often
there
is
a
correctional
facility
upstairs
and
I
think
it's
recreational
time,
and
we
hear
a
lot
of
bouncing
during
that
time,
so
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
I
I
probably
won't
take
the
entire
seven
minutes.
AF
AF
AF
However,
you
want
to
frame
it
to
really
help
people
with
the
significant
inequities
in
income
that
exists
in
our
society
and
in
our
community
here
locally,
and
that
has
to
be
a
part
of
whatever
solution
that
we
come
up
with
as
a
council
and
so
once
again,
thank
you,
chair,
Goodman
and
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today
and
I.
Look
forward
to
the
next
conversation
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
I
think
so.
A
That
was
the
perfect
last
word
and
I
appreciate
it,
and
often
that
happens.
I
want
to
thank
our
staff.
I
am
going
to
make
the
following
suggestion.
The
next
Biz
meeting
is
on
May,
2nd
I'd
like
to
allocate
one
hour
to
answering
questions
as
a
follow-up
from
today.
I
will
note
that
we
will
lose
Amelia,
obviously
she'll
be
at
her
new
job,
and
there
are
a
few
others
that
have
you
know
long
plan,
medical
appointments
or
vacations,
and
so
we
might
not
have
the
entire
staff
team
as
a
result
of
that
I'm.
A
Also
inviting
council
members
to
submit
questions
in
writing
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
clerk,
because
I
don't
want
to
run
afoul
of
this
legislative
directive
thing.
So
perhaps
he
could
just
tell
us
what
the
best
way
council
member
Payne
had
asked
for
an
individual
meeting.
I
thought
that
was
terrific
and
it
sounds
like
the
staff
team
is
willing
to
do
that.
Also,
and
so.
I'll
leave
that
to
individual
council
members
to
meet
with
staff
at
their
request,
but
Mr
Carl.
A
Perhaps
you
could
suggest
a
process
by
which
people
could
submit
written
questions
and
the
staff
then
could
answer
those
first
at
the
one
hour
meeting.
I'll
also
note
that
I
had
to
postpone
the
conversation
about
Kmart
at
Lake,
Street,
Community
participation
in
order
to
accommodate
this,
and
that's
going
to
be
on
the
next
agenda,
also
as
well.
All
of
the
other
Bond
issuance
public
hearings
and
quasi-judicials
that
we
will
have
so
I'm
happy
to
do
it.
I
appreciate
again,
council
members,
chugti
and
Ellison
deferring
to
others
and
I.
A
AG
AG
We'd
want
to
have
all
of
those
questions
submitted
to
the
clerk
by
noon
on
Thursday,
so
that
gives
counselors
a
chance
to
think
through
their
questions.
Consult
with
peers.
Put
those
questions
together
by
noon
on
Thursday
April
20th.
Using
this
slide
and
the
way
it's
laid
out
the
report
and
presentation.
We
would
then
categorize
those
questions
into
these
various
issues.
AG
So
things
around
background
or
process
questions
policy
component
questions,
fiscal
impact,
analysis,
legal
questions,
things
like
that,
it's
very
possible
that
multiple
council
members
will
have
similar
or
same
questions,
and
so
we
would
try
and
combine
those
where
they
make
sense
circulate
that
whole
list
of
questions
both
to
council
members
and
to
the
staff
so
that
they
have
as
much
time
as
possible
to
respond
to
what
I
anticipate
could
be
a
lengthy
list
of
questions.
We
would
transmit
that
to
them,
then
that
Thursday
afternoon
giving
them
all
the
way
up
until
noon.
AG
On
May
1st
the
day
before
the
next
Biz
committee
to
work
diligently
to
respond
to
as
many
of
those
as
they
can.
Obviously
they
would
submit
their
report
back
to
us
in
writing
and
we
would
circulate
that
full
report
to
all
members
that
afternoon,
the
day
before
Biz
posted
in
limbs,
so
that
there's
Public
Access
and
transparency
to
all
of
those
questions.
All
of
those
answers
and
make
sure
that's
available
for
the
meeting
with
your
direction.
Madam
chair.
AG
We
would
also
go
ahead
and
set
aside
an
hour
at
the
May,
2nd
Biz
committee
meeting,
so
that
there
was
time
to
address
the
questions
and
any
further
clarifying
questions
at
that
meeting.
That
staff
can
address.
Obviously,
if
questions
can't
be
addressed,
that
is
a
very
short
turnaround
time
of
less
than
two
full
weeks.
A
Okay,
so
that
sounds
like
a
process
for
the
written
questions
does
not
preclude
answering
asking
questions
out
loud
in
committee,
starting
with
council
members,
Ellison
and
chugti
and,
of
course
any
other
members
of
the
committee
and
then
anyone
else
on
the
council
who
would
like
to
do
so
for
an
hour
on
the
second.
Is
there
any
objection
to
that
path?.
A
Okay,
then,
thank
you
very
much,
then
I
think
what
we'll
do
is.
We
will
just
continue
this
item
until
the
next
cycle.
It
won't
appear
on
the
council
agenda,
of
course,
and
we
will
continue
to
move
forward.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
in
the
audience
who
sat
so
patiently
through
many
many
items
today.
We
appreciate
your
presence
in
the
chamber
today,
seeing
no
business
before
us
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
the
meeting
adjourned.