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B
A
The
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum
with
that
we'll
move
to
our
consent
agenda.
There
are
three
items
on
the
consent
agenda
that
I
will
read
for
the
record
item
number
one
is
accepting
a
grant
from
the
state
of
Minnesota
for
the
Central
City
storm
Tunnel
construction
project.
Item
number
two
is
approving
appointments
to
The
Pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
item
number.
Three
is
authorizing
Elise,
with
the
Minnesota
state
patrol
for
storage
space
at
the
Minneapolis
impound
lot.
I
will
also
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
council
member
Chuck
Dai.
B
D
on
May
18th,
the
city
council
designated
a
public
hearing
for
July
13th
of
23
to
consider
assessment
charges
for
sidewalk
repair
and
construction
that
remain
unpaid,
Public
Works
completed
its
annual
inspection
repair
of
public
sidewalks
in
2022,
with
property
owners
having
the
option
of
Contracting
for
the
repairs
themselves
or
allowing
the
city
to
complete
the
work
and
Bill
or
assess
the
work
for
those
choosing
the
ladder.
This.
This
action
is
to
proceed
with
the
process
for
collecting
those
assessments.
A
total
of
1
228
repair
orders
were
performed
in
2022.
D
All
Property
Owners
receive
a
bill
for
the
completed
work.
If
the
owner
did
not
pay
the
bill,
the
cost
of
the
work
will
be
listed
on
the
assessment
role
and
assess
the
property
taxes
as
a
special
assessment
on
January
1st
2024.
If
the
property
owners
should
choose
to
contest
the
work,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
appeal
at
an
administrative
hearing,
Public
Works
conducted
five
Administrative
Hearings,
two
in-person
at
City
Hall
in
three
virtual.
There
were
12
appeals
at
that
administrative
hearings.
A
D
Results
of
the
administrative
hearing
officers
determination.
They
may
elect
to
appeal
at
a
public
hearing
before
Public,
Works
and
infrastructure
Committee
of
the
city
council.
If
they
are
not
satisfied
with
the
decision
of
that
committee,
they
may
appeal
to
the
district
court.
This
appeal
must
be
made
within
30
days
of
the
adoption
of
the
assessment
role
by
the
city
of
council.
D
A
list
of
properties
and
charges
to
be
assessed
will
be
provided
at
the
time
of
public
hearing
the
properties
on
the
list
to
be
assessed
which
are
on
file
at
the
city's
Engineers
special
assessment
office
had
a
sidewalk
repair
and
construction
work
done
in
2022
by
the
city.
Sidewalk
contractor
the
amount
to
be
assessed
is
a
special
assessment,
is
a
total
of
965.
D
336.73,
the
Minneapolis
city
council
has
passed
resolutions
whereby
deferment
of
special
assessments
may
be
obtained
by
showing
hardship
for
any
Homestead
property
owner
by
age
of
65
years
of
order
or
retired
by
virtue
of
a
permanent
and
total
disability
or
military
personnel
ordered
into
active
duty
service.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
I
am
available
for
questions.
A
A
Who
is
not
signed
up
yet
anyone
anyone
all
right,
I'll
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing,
having
not
seen
anyone
wishing
to
speak
and
I
will
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
committee
members
on
this
item
not
seeing
any
so
with
that
I
will
go
ahead
and
move
this
item
for
approval
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye,
those
opposed,
say,
nay.
C
A
We
also
appreciate
as
well
so
thank
you
very
much
to
the
department
for
all
their
work
on
this
item
and
Mr
Dodd
welcome
the
floor
is
yours.
E
Thank
you,
chair
members
of
the
committee,
Brian
Dodds,
deputy
director
city,
engineer.
Public
works
good
to
be
here
today
we're
talking
about
the
legislative
directive
from
our
from
June,
and
this
is
the
Pilot
cost
analysis
for
a
city-led,
sidewalk,
snow
and
ice
removal
program.
So
these
are
the
pilots
that
were
identified
in
the
report
that
was
provided
so
just
to
kind
of
give
a
timeline
February.
This
is
our
more
recent
timeline.
February
16th.
E
We
had
a
presentation
on
June
8th
to
the
committee
presenting
that
that
work
and
I
had
a
follow-up
legislative
directive
on
June
22nd,
asking
for
some
high-level
cost
analysis
of
the
pilot
projects
included
in
that
report.
So
we're
here
today
to
report
out
on
that
and
a
future
item
that
you
will
be
seeing
this
fall
will
be
yet
another
continuation
of
this
work
and
update
to
the
winter
maintenance
study.
E
So
the
proposed
pilot
programs
I
just
want
to
refresh
your
memory
they're
in
our
report,
these
sidewalk
snow
and
ice
removal
report,
and
that
was
presented-
and
these
are
the
page
numbers.
It's
the
senior
snow
and
ice
or
senior
snow
clearing
assistance
program.
Our
snow
case
worker
program,
mobile
team,
authorized
contractor
clearing
policy
and
program
changes
as
well
as
the
snow
ambassador
program.
E
I
know
that
in
the
report
was
pretty
well
detailed,
but
we've
lost
a
couple
minor
changes
on
that
and
just
wanted
to
keep
the
format
consistent
as
we
as
we
look
at
these
different
options,
so
kind
of
our
assumptions
in
schedule
and
budgeting
Etc.
So
we're
assuming
this
is
for
a
2024
budget.
Ask
so
the
funds
would
become
available.
January
1st
2024
funds
allocated
funds
available
so
first
quarter
we
would
hire
staff
that
could
work
on
these
items.
E
Second
and
third
quarter
of
2024
we'd
be
working
on
fleshing
out
these
proposals,
really
getting
them
off
the
ground
really
getting
them
started
so
that
we
could
have
a
roll
out
November
1st
kind
of
the
beginning
of
our
official
snow
and
ice
season
and
have
them
available
and
starting
to
serve
the
public.
So
all
the
numbers
we're
looking
at
are
in
2024.
E
We
didn't
include
escalation,
even
though
I've
got
kind
of
two
years
of
costs
in
here
and
additional
support,
and
we
have
an
FTE
I'll
show
you
in
the
table
at
the
end
kind
of
additional
support
needed.
If
we're
doing
a
bunch
of
these,
we
need
more
help
managing
it
running
the
numbers
trying
to
just
make
sure
we're
serving
this
program
as
best
we
can,
and
so
that's
kind
of
variable
and
I'll
discuss
that
a
little
bit
later,
I'll
have
a
number
of
numbers
and
italics
that
can
be
scalable.
E
Those
are
ones
that
can
be
scaled
down.
Some
of
these
programs
can
be
scaled
up
as
well
and
I'll.
Note
those
and
our
estimates
are
high
level
sub
digit
change.
You
know
we.
We
have
not
fully
vetted
out
all
these,
and
these
are
our
our
best
work
here
in
the
short
amount
of
time
to
give
you
kind
of
a
good
number
for
what
these
could
be
so
I'll
get
into
it
foreign.
E
They
provide
snow,
shoveling
equipment
and
some
sort
of
wage
to
those
doing
this
work,
that's
kind
of
the
model
that
was
identified
in
the
report
and
we
believe
we
would
need
an
FTE
to
kind
of
manage
this
program,
make
sure
we're
communicating
well
tracking
the
data
making
sure
we're
having
a
good
level
of
service
and
the
program
is
successful
and
so
that
in
the
first
line
here,
you'd
see
a
prorated
year,
One
cost
of
hiring
that
person
after
the
first
quarter
and
then
the
next
year
will
be
kind
of
the
full
loaded.
E
Fte
cost
the
contractual
Services
here
this
could
this
could
be
a
sliding
scale,
and
so
we
we're
looking
at
it
was
estimated
in
the
report.
25
different
properties
served
in
each
neighborhood,
350
bucks
for
each
of
those
properties
for
the
season,
and
so
you
know
it's
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars
a
neighborhood.
This
could
be
scaled
up
and
down
depending
on
this.
So
this
this
full
900
000
includes
the
number
that
was
in
the
report
for
735
000
plus
when
we
talked
to
NCR
these,
these
neighborhood
associations,
these
neighborhood
organizations.
E
This
is
this-
would
be
a
burden
on
them,
and
so
we
added
20
as
kind
of
an
administrative
fee.
So
they
could.
They
could
have
some
additional
resources
to
be
able
to
manage
the
program.
E
Okay,
next
is
the
snow
caseworker
pilot,
so
this
would
be
an
individual
that
would
go
out
with
our
proactive
sidewalk
inspections.
They'd
probably
also
be
involved
in
other
3-1-1
complaints.
They
would
actually
be
a
touch
point
for
those
at
the
properties,
so
they
could
talk
to
them.
What
are
the
barriers
learn
more
about
what
they
could
do,
follow
up
with
them
and
just
engage
with
them
on
these
non-compliant
properties?
This
would
give
us
this
would
be
a
great
resource
to
get
a
lot
more
information
about
about
what
are
the
barriers?
E
What
could
we
be
doing
in
the
future
to
overcome
those
barriers?
And
this
would
be
again
one
one
FTE?
E
We
have
that
prorated
Personnel
cost
again
hired
after
in
the
q1
Q2
time
frame
contractual
Services
here
we
think
they
would
need
a
vehicle,
and
so
the
equipment
and
the
contractual
Services
is
the
vehicle
and
repair
costs
and
ongoing
replacement
costs
for
that
vehicle
next
item
is
our
mobile
team
pilot,
so
this
would
be
to
basically
get
a
contractor
pool
and
hire
a
contractor,
and
they
could
go
to
targeted
properties
and
work
through
issues
that
are
seen
out
there.
They
would
get
information
of
what
properties
to
address.
E
We
think
the
best
vehicle
for
that
would
be
through
the
snow
caseworker
program
is
to
have
that
person
working
together
with
these
folks.
So
if
they
identified
someone
who's,
just
not
able,
you
know
what,
whatever
the
criteria
end
up
being
but
have
them
get
connected
and
provide
this
service
of
clearing
the
public
sidewalk,
and
this
this
assumes
eight
routes,
50
properties.
Again,
it's
an
italics
here
in
the
in
the
contractual
area.
This
is
very
scalable
for
different
sizes.
E
We
think
we
still
think
we
need
an
engineer
or
a
a
FTE
to
manage
this
program
and
it
could
go
up
or
down,
and
you
can
see
400
properties
roughly,
that
it
could
address
and
but
it
you
know,
it
would
ramp
up
through
the
season
for
all
these
things,
with
our
people
that
would
start
early
I
mean
for
this.
We
would
probably
be
looking
at
what
happened
in
the
past.
Could
we
do
some
pre-identification
throughout
the
season,
so
we
can
really
hit
the
ground
running
starting
in
November,
authorized,
contractor
clearing
policy
and
program
changes.
E
So
this
would
be
a
staff
person,
a
similar
time
frame
for
hiring
to
look
through
our
program.
Look
through
our
proactive
inspection
work
with
business
licensing
work
with
just
kind
of
all
portions
of
the
Enterprise
city
attorney's
office,
to
look
at
different
ways
that
we
can
incentivize
the
compliance
that
we're
looking
to
see
and
ultimately
we
want
to
create
sidewalk,
that's
free
of
snow
and
ice
looking
for
Equitable
outcomes,
and
so
we
can
have
everyone
walking
and
rolling
through
our
city
without
barriers.
E
So
this
is
just
another
way
to
do
that
and
finally,
the
snow
ambassador
program
for
those
of
you
calling
the
report.
This
was
a
kind
of
a
two-year
pilot.
It's
scalable
up
down.
This
would
just
be
two
folks
going
around
maybe
doing
20
miles
of
The
Pedestrian
priority
Network
and
if
they
see
a
property,
that's
not
compliant,
they
start
and
they
clear
it
immediately
and
they
knock
on
the
door.
E
Try
to
engage
with
the
people
that
live
there,
maybe
leave
a
door
hanger
if
no
one's
there
and
follow
up
with
that
property
and
then
the
next
time.
If
it's
that
same
property,
that's
not
compliant,
we
would
clear
it
and
we
would
charge
them
the
cost
to
do
that,
and
just
continuing
working
and
engaging
on
that
and
just
being
a
focused
area
on
a
section
of
The
Pedestrian
priority
Network.
E
So
here's
a
summary
slide
of
these
different
options.
Again,
you
can
see
in
italics
with
the
snow
senior
snow,
clearing
assistance
program
and
the
mobile
team
pilot
things
that
those
could
be
adjusted
down
most
likely,
but
could
be
bigger
too
the
snow
caseworker
we
could
get
more
of
them.
So
that's
that
scale
could
be
scaled
up
same
with
the
snow
ambassador
program.
Just
a
reminder
here
that
snow
case
workers
really
a
key
element
of
of
having
success
with
the
mobile
team
pilot,
and
the
last
item
on
here
is
just
support
staff.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
Dodds
for
this
presentation
again
really
appreciate
the
quick
turnaround
and
it
has
a
lot
of
detail
and
it's
really
helpful,
especially
as
we're
having
these
budget
conversations.
So
I'm
gonna
see
if
there
are
any
comments
or
questions
from
colleagues,
council,
member.
F
Payne,
thank
you,
chair
Johnson,
and
thank
you
Mr
Dodds,
the
snow
case
worker
I
think
you
already
mentioned
the
tight
collaboration
between
the
snow
case
worker
and
the
mobile
team
pilot
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
some
opportunities
for
I,
don't
know,
synergies.
That
sounds
a
little
corporate,
but
alignment
between
the
the
caseworker
and
the
snow
ambassador
program,
because
I
mean
either
way
you
have
people
out
in
the
field
and
it's
just
a
matter
of.
F
A
And
maybe
Mr
dots
before
you
answer
that
too,
and
just
for
the
public
and
for
colleagues
as
well,
certainly
when
we
ask
for
that
tight
turnaround
time
on
this
as
well,
it
was
also
knowing
that
we
might
not
have
the
depth
on
some
of
these,
so
you
might
have
depth
on
this
one,
but
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
as
well,
that
some
of
these
things
probably
need
to
be
figured
out
more
so,
with
the
benefit
of
more
time
but
anyways
Mr,
duns
I.
E
Appreciate
that
commentary
Johnson
councilmember
Payne
a
number
of
these
items,
they're
all
there's
overlap.
You
know
these
are
all
seeking
kind
of
different
flavors
of
the
same
goal,
and
so
yes,
they
they
definitely.
We
could
be
grabbing
elements
of
other
ones
and
incorporating
them.
There
is
some
flexibility.
I
mean
these
These
are
ideas
they
can
be
developed
further.
There
can
be
some
cross-pollination
between
them,
so
definitely
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
mix
and
match
and
create
a
program
that
maybe
isn't
even
presented
here
today.
No.
F
I
love
that
it's
the
exact
answer
I
was
hoping
for
because
it's
just
this
I
really
like
how
we're
and
I
think
I
said
this
during
the
the
larger
presentation
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people's
eyes
popped
out
of
their
head
when
they
saw
the
price
tag,
but
I
think
it's
really
important.
How
we
highlight
that
there
are
ways
that
we
can
accomplish
that
accessibility
through
a
number
of
different
approaches
and
40
million
dollars
versus
you
know.
Six
figures
is
there's,
there's
some
wiggle
room.
We
have
to
accomplish
our
goals.
It
looks
like.
G
Chair
and
yeah
I
also
want
to
really
appreciate
that
you
brought
this
information
back
to
us
on
such
a
tight
timeline
kind
of
going
off
of
what
council
member
Payne
was
saying.
You
know,
I
I
see
a
lot
of
like
the
repetitive
nature
of
the
authorized,
contractor
clearing
policy
and
program
changes
that
pilot
and
the
support
staff
pilot
as
an
example,
and
is
there
a
way
to
have
the
the
support
staff
person
or
whatever?
G
That
role
looks
like
being,
you
know,
ensuring
coordination
between
some
of
these
different
pilots
and
also
working
within
the
Enterprise
on
on
identifying
some
of
those
some
of
those
goals
listed
for
for
this
for
this
pilot,
but
that's
you
know
one
thing
that
that
kind
of
jumped
out
at
me
a
couple
of
questions
for
you
going
back
to
the
snow,
the
senior
snow,
clearing
assistance
program,
the
very
first
pilot
that
we
went
over
you
I
think
you
mentioned
it's.
G
These
numbers
are
built
off
of
25
properties
per
neighborhood.
Where
is
that
number
coming
from?
Is
it
based
on?
You
know
the
existing
number
of
seniors
in
the
city
as
that's
projected
to
change
over
time
and
or
yeah.
How
did
you
get
to
25
properties
per
neighborhood.
E
We
we
had
some
discussions
with
some
of
our
neighborhoods
that
are
that
are
doing
similar
work
today,
bancroft's
one
example,
and
that
that
number
kind
of
seemed
to
be
kind
of
a
sweet
spot
for
what's
happening
today
and
so
and
what
might
be
possible,
the
number
could
be
higher.
The
number
could
be
lower.
We
have
different
parts
of
the
city,
we
have
more
seniors
in
some
neighborhoods
than
others,
and
so
again
this
is
this
is
scalable
and
as
it
evolves
over
time,
we'll
really
see
more
about
what
the
need
is.
G
Okay,
that's
very
helpful,
thank
you
and
then
the
the
the
caseworker
pilot
the
is
would
this
is
the
the
thinking
here
to
have
this
pilot
program
be
specific
to
any
non-compliant
Properties
or
some
of
our
more
chronic
violators
or
both
a.
E
Chair
Johnson,
council
member
Chuck
Tai,
yes
again,
we,
the
the
write-up
in
the
report,
was
focused
on
our
proactive
inspections
and
going
with
those
teams
as
kind
of
a
first
priority.
But
if
you
look,
if
we
hire
this
person,
they
start
in
March
there'll
be
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
look
at
our
what
history
we
do
have
what
properties
have
been
problematic.
As
we
look
at
the
report,
we
had
a
number
of
998,
that's
kind
of
our
one
percent
of
properties
that
have
been
most
challenging.
E
We
have
660
that
have
a
huge
percentage
of
of
non-compliance,
and
so
we
could
look
at
some
of
those
folks
that
we've
had
issues
with
those
properties.
We
have
had
issues
with
every
year
and
we
could
start
working
on
those
first
and
so
yeah.
We
would
definitely
be
looking
at
the
higher
opportunity
ones
and
and
going
from
there.
G
Sounds
good
and
then
last
question
specific
to
one
of
these:
the
mobile
team
pilot
based
on
eight
routes
of
50
properties.
Each
can
you
just
help
me
understand
the
eight
routes
50
where,
where
did?
Where
did
that
number
come
from.
E
So
there
was
chair,
Johnson
councilmember,
Chuck
Tay,
that
was
kind
of
a
scalable
number
looking
at
what
a
contractor
could
perhaps
do
in
a
day
and
so
just
kind
of
created,
eight
routes.
We
don't
know
what
properties
that
they
would
address,
and
so
we
would
look
at
our
data.
We
would
look
at
the
issues
we're
having
at
the
time
going
over
the
next
winter
season,
but
that
was
just
maybe
it's
about
it's
about.
E
Eight
routes
could
kind
of
spread
across
the
city
having
having
several
in
each
each
area,
so
that
would
give
us
kind
of
a
rough
coverage
of
the
city.
Again
could
be
scalable.
G
This
is
then
to
be
clear,
not
based
off
of
the
rate
of
non-compliance,
it's
more
so,
what's
feasible,
reasonable
could
work.
G
Thank
you,
yeah
yeah.
You
know,
I
really
really
appreciate
seeing
some
of
these
initial
numbers
I
know
that
this
is
based
off
of
a
lot
of
assumptions
and
and
these
numbers
could
change
some
of
them.
I
know
like
the
I
think
the
snow
ambassador
program
is
one.
G
That's
there's
been
a
little
bit
more
thinking
done
on
it
over
the
past
several
months,
so
that
one
I
know
is
likely
a
little
bit
more
baked
in
regardless
I'm
excited
to
see
a
more
clear
cost
estimates
for
some
of
these
programs
that
that
we
can
look
at
funding
in
this
upcoming
budget
cycle
and
I
know
we're
in
the
middle
of
July
now
about
a
month
away
from
the
start
of
of
budget
season,
and
so
you
know,
I
know
I've
shared
this
with
with
chair,
Johnson
and
and
vice
chairkovski
and
I
feel,
like
we've,
had
conversations
as
we've
worked
together
throughout
this
legislative
directive
process,
but
you
know
I
I
think
I
would
love
for.
G
For
this
body
and
this
committee
to
to
consider
formalizing
these
these,
these
programs-
and
you
know
somehow
including
those
as
as
as
things
we
hope
to
see
in
the
administration's
proposed
budget
in
this
upcoming
year.
G
I
know
I
would
really
like
to
see
that
and
I'd
love
for
for
us
to
to
decide.
If
that's
that's
a
path
we
want
to
go
down
together,
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
different
from
how
we've
traditionally
done
things
in
the
past,
but
we're
in
in
we're
learning
a
lot
about
how
we
relate
to
our
budget
in
our
new
biennial
budgeting
process.
H
Thank
you,
chair
Johnson,
a
couple
questions,
one
kind
of
just
piggybacking
off
of
consumerator
and
I
see
we
have
someone
from
NCR
here.
So
maybe
it's
them
to
answer
this,
but
and
again.
I
know
that
you
maybe
haven't
done
a
deep
dive
on
this.
But
when
we
talk
about
the
senior
snow,
clearing
assistant
program-
and
you
said
you
know
it's
an
estimate
of
how
many
neighborhoods
have
this
capacity,
do
you
have
an
idea
of
how
many
neighborhoods
would
have
a
capacity
to
do
this
or
neighborhood
associations?
Sir.
I
Afternoon,
council
members,
Stephen
Gallagher
I
work
for
the
neighboring
community
relations
department
as
the
manager
of
neighborhood
neighborhood
programs.
So
right
now,
there's
around
three
four
neighborhood
organizations
that
are
actually
doing
type
of
snow
removal
through
different
Partnerships
or
volunteers.
Right
now,
I
I
think
there's
probably
about
seven
eight
organizations
that
could
probably
step
in
to
help
out
because
they
have
the
capacity
of
Staff
or
a
volunteer
recruitment
person
and
manager.
So
I
think
they
could
come
in.
But
if
we
wanted
to
extend
this
a
little
bit
further
I
think
there'd
be
some.
I
We
would
have
to
do
some
training
on
some
other
organizations
and
increase
their
capacity
overall,
and
that
could
take
a
significant
amount
of
time
through
next
year
to
do
that.
H
I
H
You
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
next
question
that
I
have
is
just
you
know,
again
kind
of
on
the
same
theme
of
the
overlapping
programs
and
I'd
be
curious
to
know
when
we,
the
you
know
the
crossover
with
the
mobile
team
pilot
like
how
many,
how
much
crossover
do
you
think
that
might
have
actually
with
our
seniors,
do
we?
H
You
know
that
we'd
actually
be
covering
some
of
those
individuals
anyways
and
then
maybe
be
able
to
see
a
decrease
in
the
need
with
our
seniors,
because
we're
still,
you
know
we're
already
supporting
them
in
another
program.
E
Chair
Johnson's
vysharkovski,
there
definitely
could
be
we
don't.
We
don't
have
specific
numbers
of
what
the
need
is
today,
and
so
we
would
need
to
get
into
it.
I
think
you're
identifying
that
there
are
overlapping
Services.
There
they're
just
two
different
approaches
to
accomplishing
a
very
similar
outcome,
so
they're
they're
two
different
strategies
we
would
just
need
to
choose
which
or
both
or
a
blend
to
move
forward
with.
H
Thank
you
and
then
just
last
question:
do
you
have
you
guys
considered
or
have
a
recommendation
of
where
we
would
begin
or
how
to
which
ones
you
would
I
mean
I,
understand
that
you
said
the
snow
case.
Worker
pilot
program
would
be
helpful
to
have
with
the
mobile
team
pilot
right,
but
any
like
would
you
say
like
from
your
experience
where
you
would
begin
and
what
you
would
recommend.
H
E
Thank
you
for
the
question,
sir
Johnson
Vice
chair
Koski.
We
we
work
to
provide
just
kind
of
an
overall
scrub
of
these
numbers
and
these
programs.
We
did
not
bring
forward
a
recommendation
today.
We
could
work
on
that
with
you.
You
know
again.
Each
of
these
will
provide
more
data
and
provide
additional
services,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
have
further
discussion
on
if
we
were
going
to
choose
one
and
if
you
wanted
us
to
be
part
of
that
conversation,
we
would
be
happy
to
join
with
that.
H
Again,
what's
what's
council
member
chunktai
and
her
comments
about
the
budget
and
I
think
that
is
precisely
what
this
committee
can
do
is
to
work
together
to
to
think
about
what
would
be
best
but
I.
Think
having
your
expertise
and
understanding
would
be
helpful
in
that
process.
All.
A
Right,
thank
you.
Vice
chair
council,
member.
J
Wansley,
thank
you.
Chair
Johnson
also
has
similar
comment,
comments
related
to
the
budget
piece
and
recognizing
that
I
know,
there's
lots
of
conversations
publicly
about
the
budget
being
tight,
but
from
actually
one
of
our
budget
presentations
a
couple
weeks
ago.
We
know
that
there
is
a
surplus
and
there's
a
bare
minimum
of
as
I
think
council
member
Payne
mentioned.
This
is
reaching
under
maybe
less
than
six
million
dollars
where
we
can.
J
Actually,
you
know,
deliver
targeted
programs
and
start
building
that
case
around
data,
because,
as
someone
who
wholeheartedly
supports
a
city-wire
approach,
I
would
like
to
see
evidence
as
we've
done,
for
instance
with
BCR
to
say.
Okay,
if
we're
looking
for
a
city-wide
service,
what
are
the
the
metrics
of
success?
J
What's
the
benchmarks
and
I
think
the
things
that
you're
providing
here
are
the
recommendations
can
help
us
to
start
getting
that
more
specific
data,
that's
more
hyper
local,
so
we
can
actually
track
and
know
how
we're
scaling
up
and
what
we're
phasing
into
so
I
don't
see
this
as
either
or
approach,
especially
when
we
have
a
surplus
where
we
can
actually
fund.
J
Probably
all
of
these
things
in
front
of
us
that
you've
recommended,
through
this
analysis
and
also
in
light
of
that
I,
will
name
this,
and
this
might
be
related
to
our
NCR
folks.
If
we're
talking
about
sharing
the
burden
or
responsibility
for
clearing
our
sidewalks
with
neighborhood
associations
can't
ignore
the
fact
that
we
have
neighborhood
associations
who
are
literally
saying
they're,
underfunded
right
now,
and
that's
also
been
raised
to
our
awareness
repeatedly
about
the
the
base
level
funding
not
being
adequate
for
our
neighborhood
organizations
just
for
the
work
that
they
do
now.
J
So,
if
we're
saying
hey
now,
instead
of
doing
city-wide
work,
we
want
you
to
join
in
to
like
Personnel
costs
and
help
us
clear
sidewalks.
That
is
definitely
going
to
ramp
up
and
escalate
conversations
with
our
neighborhood
associations
and
justifiably
so
around.
What
supports?
Are
we
providing
to
them?
Because
I
can't
imagine
that
only
10
neighborhood
associations
we'll
just
see
this
and
be
like
yeah
nope
we're
just
going
to
stay
there
and
not
the
rest
of
the
60.
and
saying
like?
J
Maybe
we
want
to
get
in
on
this
too,
and
also
you
know,
have
a
role
in
making
sure
that
our
sidewalks
are
safe,
so
I'm.
Thinking
of
that
too,
of
we're
having
budget
conversations
or
conversations
in
general
around
funding
for
our
neighborhood
associations,
the
impacts
that
doing
something
like,
for
instance,
to
see
your
you
know,
pilot
initiative,
I
know
you
factor
in
administrative
costs.
J
We
might
need
some
more
scalable
figures
on
that.
If
we're
saying
like,
we
want
to
invest
in
that,
and
just
thinking
of
that
piece
as
we're
having
this
broader
conversation
around
neighborhood
associations,
but
I
just
wanted
to
also
share
a
support
with
council
member
Chuck
tie
and
really
saying
this
committee
has
the
opportunity,
as
we
just
did,
with
our
legislative
Department
to
say:
hey.
This
is
a
city-wide
priority.
We
know
our
residents
wants
to
see
their
sidewalks
be
clear.
They
want
them
to
be
safer
and
snow
and
ice
is
not
going
away.
J
Here's
the
opportunity
to
step
up
and
do
that
even
starting
with
this
smaller
menu
of
options
as
we
build
for
something
broader,
so
I
at
least
wanted
to
note
that
thank
you,
councilmember
Chuck
Tai
for
all
your
work
and
collaborating
with
my
office
and
our
staff.
Also,
you
know
councilmember
Johnson
to
really
have
a
deeper
and
more
thorough
conversation
around
how
we
can
have
some
final
or
tangible
products
that
we
can
deliver
to
Residents,
hopefully
this
year,
to
make
this
winner
more
manageable,
yeah.
F
Thank
you,
chair
Johnson
yeah,
both
councilmember
one's
Leanne,
drug
tie,
kind
of
started,
touching
on
my
question,
but
yeah
I
was
excited
about
this,
specifically
as
one
of
the
co-authors
I
think,
with
both
council
member
onesie
and
Johnson,
around
neighborhood
association
funding
and
my
question's
a
little
technical
here,
but
for
the
line
item
for
a
contractual
under
the
senior
snow.
Clearing
assistance
program.
Is
that
just
technically
the
grant
dollars
that
would
be
going
to
the
neighborhood
associations
or
okay
and
then
would
it
be?
Would
we
anticipate
those
neighborhood
associations?
F
E
We
have
not
gone
that
far
down
to
define
the
program
that
much
it
was
anticipated
to
be
grants
for
supplementing
their
volunteer
or
neighborhood
kids
in
the
neighborhood
folks,
folks
that
are
looking
for
some
some
supplemental
work
if
they
want
to
do
employ
a
contractor,
I
think
I,
think
it's
worth
talking
about,
haven't,
haven't
really
landed
on
that
hard.
Okay,.
F
That's
perfect
because
one
of
the
conversations
I
had
with
Mr
Gallagher
actually
was
around
that
base
funding
conversation
and
how
maybe
we
do
have
the
keep
the
lights
on
base
funding,
which
is
what
we
currently
have
right
now,
which
is
not
enough
for
operations,
but
if
we
had
kind
of
different
funding
tiers
and
based
on
those
funding,
tiers
you're
increasing
your
capacity
and
increasing
your
services
that
you're,
providing
and
I
can
see
this
as
being
a
component
to
that.
So
I
just
really
like
that.
This
is
structured
this
way.
So
thank
you.
A
Excellent,
thank
you.
Council,
member
I
am
not
seeing
anyone
else,
so
really
thoughtful
questions
really
thoughtful
answers
to
the
questions
as
well.
For
me,
as
I'm
looking
at
this
I
mean
the
emphasis
is
on
the
word
pilot.
A
You
know
this
is
about
learning
and
trying
things,
and
these
are
ideas
that
you
all
brought
forward
when
asked
to
look
at
this
Municipal
sidewalk,
clearing
and
I
think
these
are
all
really
reasonable.
Great
ideas.
I
want
to
piggyback
off
of
councilmember
chugti's
comments
around
this
committee
saying
this
is
a
priority.
I
I
agree
with
that
analysis.
I
mean
typically
you'd.
Think
about
that,
and
it's
not
something
that
at
least
in
past
years
that
the
council
has
really
done.
A
We
obviously
have
some
changes
around
government
structure
and
also
I
think,
even
though
we
always
want
to
consider
precedent
setting
with
things
like
this,
because
certainly
we
could
say
every
idea
or
everything
brought
forward
sounds
great
right,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
budgeting
is
about
making
trade-offs
in
in
decisions.
They
can
be
really
tough
and
challenging.
A
It's
also
shouldn't
not
not
lost
on
I'm
sure
anyone
in
this
room
that
we're
a
winter
City.
You
know
this
is
a
really
big
deal.
It
affects
everyone
and
it's
a
huge
issue
right
now
and
it's
not
where
it
needs
to
be
in
terms
of
compliance,
because
there's
people
out
there
that
don't
fulfill
their
obligations
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
this
is
something
that
I
personally
think
and
from
listening
to
many
different
council
members
over
the
years
that
this
is
a
fairly
consensus
issue.
A
That
is
of
concern
broadly
to
council
members
and
to
the
public
and
is
something
that
I
think
this
committee
could
say:
hey.
We
have
some
interest
in
moving
some
or
all
of
these
forward
in
the
budget
and
that
we'd
hope
that
the
administration
is
there
making
the
budget
decisions,
as
the
mayor
makes
his
budget
decisions
that
this
would
get
included.
I
am
sure
he
is
very
thoughtfully,
considering
this
information
as
well,
that
this
is
of
value
to
him
and
his
office.
A
Is
there
making
these
considerations
as
well
and
so
looking
forward
to
working
in
partnership
with
the
administration
in
seeing
these
included
in
the
budget,
because
I
think
these
all
make
a
ton
of
sense
and
we
can
learn
a
lot
and
then
continue
to
iterate
forward
in
order
to
get
sidewalks
to
the
expectations
that
I
think.
Frankly,
people
have
for
them
of
safe,
clear
and
passable,
so
exciting
work
very
thankful
to
everybody
in
this
room
and
those
that
aren't
able
to
be
in
this
room
today.
A
I
C
I
just
want
to
recognize
my
colleague,
director
of
neighborhood
and
community
relations.
Karen
Moe
is
in
the
room
and
we
appreciate
Mr
Gallagher.
We
appreciate
her
and
her
advice,
particularly
on
the
neighborhood
piece
and
understanding
what
additional
funds
might
be
needed,
so
she
was
invaluable
in
that
and
we
also
appreciate
that
she
came
to
Public
Works
to
show
her
support.
So
thank
you.
A
J
Yeah
before
I
forget
I,
just
went
to
have
my
vote,
be
recorder
for
both
the
public
hearing
and
the
consent
decree,
as
well
as
my
presence
at
today's
committee.
All.
A
Right.
Thank
you.
Unless
there's
any
objection
from
committee
members
I'll
direct
the
clerk
to
make
those
modifications.
Thank
you
and
seeing
no
further
discussion
on
this
presentation.
I'll
direct
the
clerk
to
receive
and
file
this
report,
and
with
that
we've
concluded
all
business
before
the
committee,
so
without
objection
We,
Stand
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone.