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A
Good
afternoon
I'm
sorry,
it
is
5
30
and
we
will
call
the
meeting
of
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
September
the
19th
2023
to
order
roll
call
at
the
record
reflect
that
all
members
are
present.
C
A
D
A
Under
old
business,
under
our
business,
we
have
a
a
table
of
a
rezone
request
from
R1
a
to
PRD
at
635
James
Huff
Road,
Madison
Ridge.
A
D
A
The
spring
and
Cemetery
Mr
calender
would
you
give
us
a
presence
of
those
reports.
E
So
yeah,
based
on
the
planning
commission's
decision
to
table
this
item,
there
were
two
pieces
of
evidence
that
were
provided.
The
first
was
in
the
in
to
address
the
issue
about
the
wetlands.
There
was
a
report
prepared
back
when
this
property
was
originally
rezoned
in
2006
and
annexed
into
the
city
for
development.
E
You
can
see
it's
not
visible
on
this
aerial
photograph
here,
but
the
results
of
that
report
from
2006
and
appears
to
be
remain
unchanged
is
that
that
is
just
a
farm
pond.
That
was
for
the
purpose
of
gathering
storm
water
to
for
cattle,
and
it
was
isolated
and
it
was
not
identified
as
being
spring
fed.
E
So
that
was
that
was
concern.
Number
one
by
the
Planning
Commission
was.
Was
that
a
spring
fed
pond,
and
even
if
that
were
an
issue
with
zoning
I
mean
it
shouldn't,
be
an
issue
with
zoning,
necessarily
unless
you
would
like
to
condition
that
be
addressed.
But
it's
standard
that
if
the
project
is
rezone
and
moves
forward
for
development,
they
are
going
to
be
required
to
prepare
a
new
report
and
if
it
is
spring,
fed
they'll
be
required
to
buffer
it
based
on
city
standards.
E
So,
ultimately,
there
is
a
solution
to
this
issue
if
it
is
identified
as
a
spring
fed,
but
according
to
the
report
and
based
on
the
evidence
that
I've
seen
it
is
not-
and
the
second
part
was
regarding
a
cemetery
and
one
of
the
citizens
that
was
here
at
the
meeting
that
evening
did
provide
staff
with
the
information
that
they
had
regarding
something
from
the
Walton
genealogical
society,
and
it
was
regarding
the
a
the
glass
and
Family
Cemetery.
Now
the
property.
E
You
can
see
this
green
border
here.
This
is
your
subject:
property
being
considered
for
a
rezone,
and
the
exact
coordinates
that
were
listed
in
you
can
see
they
actually
provide
the
coordinates
here
of
that
Cemetery
that
that's
north
of
the
site
north
of
Jack's
Creek
across
from
the
property,
is
not
located
on
the
subject
property.
In
fact,
that
cemetery
is
owned
by
property
of
the
family
of
the
same
name.
E
They
the
Kelly's
on
that
property
and
I,
know
it
says
glass
and
Family
Cemetery,
but
apparently
the
Kelly's
still
owned
this
property
and
they're
the
ones
identified
as
having
some
relatives
that
live
there,
but
not
on
the
subject
property.
So
to
answer
the
two
issues
that
Planning
Commission
had
last
month
was
location
of
cemeteries
on
the
subject,
property
and
the
location
of
potential
Wetlands
at
the
farm
pond,
and
the
answer
is,
is
no
on
both
thank
you,
sir
I'm,
sorry
and
just
to
wrap
up,
though
our
recommendation
Remains,
the
Same.
E
A
Right:
okay,
the
discussion
for
both
pro
and
con
for
this
discussion
was
made
during
the
August
the
15th
meeting.
Therefore,
there
will
be
no
further
open
discussions.
I
will
ask
this
board
if
there
are
any
questions
concerning
the
two
conditions
of
the
pond
and
also
for
the
cemetery.
None
for
me.
None
for
me.
D
E
E
At
that
point,
if
there
are
any
the
city
requirements
to
buffer
from
those
will
be
a
standard
minimum,
so
it
would
impact
the
plan
you
see
before
you.
They
would
lose
some
Lots
they're
about
to
move
a
street,
some
other
things
would
happen
or
they
could
apply
for
a
core
permit
to
mitigate
that
wetland.
A
A
Under
new
business,
the
first
item
is
a
request
for
a
COA
assigned
modification
at
195.
Martin
Luther
King,
Jr
Boulevard.
That
would
be
Zaxby's
Mr
code
officer.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
I'm.
Sorry,
we
had
that
wrong
on
your
agenda.
It's
a
site
modification,
and
so
this
is
your
existing
Zach's
fees
out
here
on
the
Martin
Luther
King
Jr,
Boulevard
and
they're,
asking
to
make
some
Modern
modifications
to
the
site.
Nothing
too
dramatic,
but
simply
seen
here
on
the
plan.
There's
the
existing
site.
E
They
have
their
parking
around
the
building,
their
drive
through
Lane
on
the
North
side,
they're
proposing
to
remove
the
parking
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
and
then
add
dual
order,
taking
drive-through
Lanes
with
some
canopy
features
and
some
other
modern
looking
features
to
accommodate
order.
Taking
it's
pretty
straightforward
and
none
of
your
COA
standards
are
excuse.
Me.
Cdo
standards
are
affected
by
this
request
and
the
recommendation
is
approval
as
submitted
without
conditions.
B
Good
afternoon
I'm
Jeff
Carter,
with
Carter
engineering
Consultants,
we
are
working
with
Zaxby's
and
I'll,
be
glad
to
try
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
but
I
think
Mr
Skylander
said
it
very
well.
All
we
want
to
do
here
is
just
improve
the
drive
through,
so
it
doesn't
keep
stacking
on
out
in
the
road.
So
that's
really
what
this
is
about.
Thank.
A
D
A
All
opposed
no
motion
is
passed.
E
E
This
is
a
21
and
a
half
acre
property
on
the
corner
of
Vine
Street,
Alcovy,
Street,
Crystal,
Road
and
they're.
It's
the
same
exact
preliminary
plant
that
was
approved
before
they're,
asking
simply
for
the
renewal
it
proposed
56
single
family,
detached
Lots.
The
recommendation
is
approval
I
submitted
without
Corrections.
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
someone
present
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
request?
F
Brian
Elrod
with
Hamburg
station
LLC,
so
this
is
a
project
that
was
approved,
presented
rezone
annexed
into
the
city
back
in
two
thousand
and
six
I
think
2006
2007.,
and
so
we
are
back
here
to
renew
before
it
expires
a
preliminary
plant
that
we
have.
That
has
been
active,
so
we
can
get
going.
D
A
Old
opposed
no
motion
request
is
approved.
A
E
Officer,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman.
The
proposal
is
for
our
child
care
home.
As
you've
read
in
your
staff
report.
We
provide
the
definition
of
what
a
child
care
home
is
in
the
city
of
Monroe.
It's
care
up
to
six
children
for
a
period
in
less
than
24
hours,
and
so
this
you
can
see
the
photograph
of
the
home
here.
E
This
is
839
overlooked,
Trail,
where
the
conditional
use
is
requested,
and
they
are
asking
for
this
approval
to
provide
the
care
for
children
up
to
six
six
at
a
time,
so
they
are
proposing
modified
hours
compared
to
what
we
would
normally
permit.
E
E
These
are
permitted
in
the
R1
District
as
conditional
uses
as
long
as
they
maintain
the
limit
of
six
children
and
stay
within
the
Realms
of
the
definitions
of
our
zoning
ordinance.
So
the
recommendation,
as
was
submitted,
is
approval
with
two
conditions
that
they
do
not
take
care
of
more
than
six
children
at
any
given
time
and
that
if
there's
a
sale,
the
property,
then
this
cup
would
be
become
null
and
void.
G
G
All
yes,
sorry,
my
name
is
Mercedes
Mrs,
Mercedes
Pridgen
and
it's
an
honor
to
be
here
to
submit
a
request
to
operate
a
family
child
care
home
in
my
residential
home.
Would
you
like
me
to
present
what
I
have
in
my
portfolio
or
do
you
prefer
question
and
answer.
G
G
We
see
a
need
in
the
city
of
Monroe
and
we
want
to
contribute
to
the
growth
and
expansion
of
the
community
to
provide
quality,
child
care
to
Growing
families,
and
so
I
have
a
passion
for
doing
this.
It
is
my
hope
and
that
you
all
would
be
willing
to
approve
my
operation
of
the
family.
Child
care
home
I
have
some
pictures
if
you're
interested
of
which
shows
my
experience
working
with
children,
and
you
don't
have
to
look
at
that.
G
I'm,
not
sure,
if
you're
interested
in
knowing
why
I
want
to
start
a
family
child
care
home.
But
I
would
like
to
start
a
family
shelter
home.
Like
I
said
my
passion
is
just
in
helping
the
community
and
I
saw
a
need
in
the
community
and
there's
benefits
to
being
in
a
multi-age
group
environment.
G
A
G
Well,
I
try
my
best
to
have
children
that
are
in
good
family
homes
I,
if
I'm
licensed
in
order
to
get
license.
I
have
to
first
be
approved
through
zoning
and
I'm
working
directly
with
decal.
So
if
they
are
distressed,
I
am
I
have
to
report
that
to
decal
and
defects,
and
it
has
to
be
addressed
right
away.
A
Are
there
any
other
approval
just
to
do
this
licenses
from
like
the
state
of
Georgia
or
anywhere
else
that
you
would
have
to
have
before
you
can
start
well.
G
I
registered
as
an
LLC
with
the
state
of
Georgia.
That
was
my
personal
choice.
You
don't
have
to
do
that,
but
it's
really
just
with
right
from
the
start
and
decal
they
take
care
of
the
licensing
process
and
they
have
their
specific
standards.
That's
required
before
you
even
get
licensed.
There's
Fire
Marshal
needs
to
come
out.
C
And
can
you
explain
quickly
what
the
the
justification
is
for
the
extended
hours
I
mean?
Is
that,
based
on
specific
known
needs
of
your
clients,
now.
G
It
doesn't
have
to
be
extended
to
be
honest
with
you
from
taking
care
of
the
two
children
that
I'm
legally
allowed
to
take
care
of.
Five
to
seven
is
not
going
to
work
for
me.
G
I
believe
that
that
needs
to
be
adjusted
to
some
General
hours
personally,
I'm
more
comfortable
with
7am
to
4
P.M,
and
maybe
until
maybe
6
PM,
for
after
school
students,
but
I,
don't
foresee
myself
doing
5
a.m.
Business
hours.
G
C
A
All
opposed
no,
the
motion
is
approved.
A
A
E
I'll
go
ahead
and
jump
into
it,
though
yeah
save
time
so
yeah.
This
is
the
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
development
regulations.
Your
seventh
update.
We
did
propose
a
seventh
update.
You
saw
two
months
ago.
We
withdrew
that
from
Council,
so
this
will
do
that
will
be
the
official
seventh
update
and
we've
gone
backwards
to
one
that
we
had
proposed
two
months
ago
on
a
proposal
to
amend
this
section
regarding
development
permits.
E
So
you
can
see
that
the
existing
code
section
there
if
you
read
that
that
struck
out
in
red,
it's
pretty
pretty
vague
and
has
some
pretty
unusual
language
in
it
that
doesn't
help
staff
identify
specifically
when
Landis
turbines
permits
expire.
So
we
are
going
to
clarify
that
language
and
actually
enhance
the
time
frame.
E
So
currently
now
12
months
is
when
it's
allowed
we're
going
to
extend
that
for
another
12.,
we're
going
to
give
them
24
months
to
have
a
valid
ldp,
and
then,
if
there
is
one,
a
need
for
a
one-time
extension,
we
will
grant
a
six-month
extension.
So
someone
that
gets
an
ldp
basically
has
30
months
to
get
a
final
plot
approved
by
city
council
and
in
the
same
section
here
below
this
was
the
same
language
we
had
proposed
to
this
Clinic
commission
here
two
months
ago
about
development
permits
not
commencing
within
six
months.
E
E
that
clear.
That's
the
proposal
for
the
land
disturbance,
permanent
language,
we've
just
expanded
the
time
that
we
had
originally
proposed.
If
you
remember
it
was
18
months
with
no
extension,
this
is
24
now
with
one
extension
of
six
months.
E
The
other
proposed
amendments
in
this
section
are
enhancing
the
subdivision,
review
procedures
and
I,
say
by
enhancement
we're
going
to
clarify
some
things
here
in
the
preliminary
Platte
section
going
to
clarify
the
number
of
copies
that
need
to
be
submitted,
including
the
individuals
that
can
prepare
pulmonary
plots.
You
can
see
there.
We
got
the
number
two
we're
going
to
change
that
from
six
to
two
copies
is
all
we
need
for
review
and
then
we're
going
to
allow
surveyors
to
also
be
ones
that
can
submit
preliminary
plot.
E
They
should
be
the
main
ones
to
be
honest
with
you,
and
then
we
are
proposing
that
the
language-
and
you
see
there
in
section
c-
a
lot
has
been
struck
and
there's
a
lot
being
added.
That
is
a
duplicate
of
your
preliminary
plant
section.
We
amended
there
back
in
January
that
clarifies
the
procedure
for
our
preliminary
plant
and
how
applications
are
submitted
and
processed
and
then
moving
on.
We
are
clarifying
some
language
for
the
Planning
Commission
to
include
the
word
zoning
ordinance
right
now.
E
That
should
be
a
part
of
the
review
for
a
preliminary
plaid,
it's
not
written
in
there,
and
then
we
are
going
to
designate
in
this
section
D
that
you
see
there
we're
going
to
change
the
city
council
as
the
approval
authority
to
this
Planning
Commission.
So
the
Planning
Commission
would
be
the
approval
Authority
for
all
preliminary
plots
moving
forward.
Based
on
these
amendments,
it
doesn't
strike
any
powers
away
from
city
council
or
anything
like
that.
E
It
just
grants
this
this
body
the
ability
to
approve
the
pulmonary
plant
instead
of
a
two-month
process
for
preliminary
plants
because
they're,
not
it's
a
technical
review.
It's
not
an
official
approval
other
than
an
ability
to
start
the
ldp
process.
So
we've
struck
the
language
that
describes
city
council
being
the
authority
that
has
to
prove
the
platin.
We
actually
move
some
of
that
language
up
there
and
you
see
section
D
that
designates
the
Planning
Commission
The
Authority,
that
appraisal
preliminary
plan
and
then
moving
on.
E
This
is
specifically
related
to
that
last
amendment
is
adding
the
language
to
the
approval
stamp
for
the
Planning
Commission.
This
is
the
language,
that's
for
City
council's
approval
and
then
we're
going
to
propose
to
add
that
from
City
councils
and
you'll
see
we'll
strike
their
approval
stamp
here.
So
they'll
only
be
three
approval
stamps
on
a
preliminary
plan
instead
of
four.
E
So
that's
all
the
changes
that
we
have
for
the
development
regs,
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
H
Mr
chair,
if
I
may
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
little
tidbit
great
job
explaining
it
so
the
extension
of
the
time
period
from
12
to
24
months
plus
the
additional
six
month,
administrative
extension.
So
that's
not
an
automatic
administrative
extension.
That's
for
special
circumstances
like
suddenly
the
city
is
unable
to
provide
water
meters
or
there's
a
backorder
of
gas
meters.
Electric
Transformers
things
like
that
real
outside
the
box
circumstances,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
That's
noted.
E
A
And
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
to
approve
or
deny
still
moved.
Second.