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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Public Safety Advisory Board Meeting scheduled for 7:00 PM, Thursday May 27, 2021.
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A
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
state
of
california
executive
order.
In
29-20
dated
march
17
2020,
all
members
of
the
public
safety
advisory
board
are
participating
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
this
meeting
live
may
do
so
on
youtube
or
through
this
webinar.
A
If
you
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment
during
this
period,
you
may
do
so
either
through
the
webinar,
by
raising
your
hand
or
by
dialing
area
code,
669,
900
9128
and
entering
webinar
id
nine
937.95,
two,
seven,
nine
zero,
nine,
two
any
emails
that
were
received
today
by
4
30.
I
forwarded
on
to
the
members
of
the
public
safety
advising
call
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
begin
this
meeting
with
the
roll
call.
A
F
A
All
right,
so
with
that,
I
will
move
to
item
three
oral
communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
subcommittee
on
any
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
public
safety
advisory
board
from
acting
on
any
non-agendized
items.
A
H
H
I
I
First
response,
even
before
the
pandemic,
non-violent
mental
health
crises
have
often
been
handled
first
and
foremost
by
sworn
police
officers
in
san
jose
or
the
santa
clara
county.
We
know
that
the
mobile
crisis
response
team
program
has
done
a
really
great
job
of
providing
mental
health
care
to
people
in
crisis,
but
they
mostly
serve
other
areas
of
the
county,
because
we
know
their
capacity
is
still
really
limited
at
this
time,
they're
rarely
able
to
support
mountain
view
residents
due
to
long
response
times.
I
We
also
know
that
the
county
has
begun,
considering
similar
programs
in
other
areas,
specifically
east
and
san
jose.
I
forgot
what
their
acronyms
are,
but
there's
clearly
a
lot
of
momentum
behind
this
idea
and
we'd
love
for
similar
resources
to
be
made
available
to
our
neighbors
here
in
north
county.
I
This
has
always
been
an
important
issue,
but
recent
times
make
it
particularly
critical
that
this
is
important.
The
pandemic
has
taken
such
a
huge
toll
on
the
mental
health
of
our
community,
especially
for
children,
for
unhoused
residents
and
for
other
vulnerable
members
of
our
community.
So
now
is
a
really
important
opportunity
to
provide
those
folks
experiencing
non-violent
crises
with
fast,
compassionate
and
non-punitive
care
by
highly
trained
mental
health
professionals.
I
We
hope
to
ensure
that
the
services
being
provided
for
students
are
targeted
and
responsive
to
the
challenges
that
they
face
and
are
delivered
by
expertly
trained
professionals
and
youth
services.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
your
work
to
improve
public
safety
for
everybody
in
our
city.
Thanks.
J
Hi
everyone
I'm
anna
marie.
I
want
to
start
by
congratulating
everyone
on
their
appointments
to
the
pete
two-piece
lab
I've
lived
in
mountain
view.
For
40
years
I
went
to
mountain
view,
schools
I
went
to
los
altos
high
school.
It
is
really
important
for
me
that
sros
this
is
actually
owned
by
either
p
saber
city
council
and
someone
takes
the
time
to
do
thorough
feedback
from
the
most
impacted
people
on
this,
and
I
kind
of
want
to
just
parrot
what
tim
and
dana
both
said
about
this
and
mental
health.
J
K
Hey
everyone
yeah,
so
my
name
is
sebastian
brisbot
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
black
and
hispanic
residents
have
more
contact
with
police
per
the
2019
mbpd
data.
That's
the
most
recent
I've
seen
and
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
because
well,
for
example,
black
residents
are
about
six
times
as
likely
as
white
residents
to
be
arrested
and
hispanic
residents
about
four
times
as
likely
to
be
arrested.
K
If
you
run,
the
numbers
do
some
math
and
so
and
this
data
has
been
similar
previous
years,
so
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
anomaly,
and
so
this
shows
that
there
is
systemic
racism
here
in
mountain
view,
and
it's
not
like
utopia,
unlike
the
rest
of
america,
that
experiences
this
racism.
So
I
I
think
we'll
continue
to
see
the
same
statistics
year
after
year
unless
there
is
systemic
change
and
I
really
think
our
black
and
hispanic
neighbors
deserve
better
than
how
they're
currently
treated.
K
So
I
really
hope
that
whatever
conversation
happens
here,
whatever
is
worked
on
this
reality
is
kept
in
mind
and
hopefully
the
status
quo
is
challenged
because
the
way
public
safety
is
in
mountain
view
is
just
simply
not
working
for
many
residents
and
also
it's
always
good
to
get
residents
input,
but
some
may
be
busy
unable
to
attend
these
meetings
and
so
on.
So
there's
these
numbers
that
demonstrate
the
disparities
in
treatment
by
race
in
mountain
view.
K
L
Hail,
can
you
hear
me,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
take
this
opportunity
to
say
welcome
to
some
of
you
welcome
back
to
serving
on
a
city
committee.
I'm
very
excited
to
see
this
take
off,
and
I
think
that
the
psap
has
a
lot
of
potential
to
do
great
things
in
the
city.
I
also
want
to
support
all
the
previous
speakers,
especially
my
my
fellow
envy,
mha
member
and
steering
committee
member.
L
I
think
that
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
comes
out
of
this
body
and
hearing
what
we
can
do
as
a
city
to
make
mountain
view
better
for
the
people
of
mountain
view,
and
you
know
seeing
you
guys
on
here
in
this
zoom
room,
I'm
hardened,
I
think
I
think
I
think,
there's
a
chance.
We
might
be
able
to
do
something.
A
A
C
M
There
we
go
can
that
everyone
see
that
okay
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name
is
sandy
lee,
I'm
a
senior
assistant
city
attorney
in
the
city
attorney's
office,
and
welcome
to
your
first
meeting
as
the
newest
advisory
board
for
the
city
of
mountain
view.
As
you
embark
on
your
new
role,
we
wanted
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
open
meetings,
laws
that
applies
to
all
of
our
city's
boards
and
commissions,
as
well
as
the
city
council.
M
There
we
go
okay,
so
the
brown
act
is
the
open
meeting
law
of
the
state
of
california,
and
it
applies
to
local
agencies.
Like
the
city
of
mountain
view,
it
has,
oh
it
advanced
sorry.
It
has
been
around
for
a
very
long
time.
It
was
enacted
in
1953
after
a
period
when
there
were
scandals
and
then
followed
with
scrutiny
over
the
long-standing
practice
of
government
meetings
being
held
behind
closed
doors
in
smoke-filled
rooms
outside
the
view
of
the
public.
M
Time
a
meeting
might
occur
through
a
series
of
communications
involving
a
majority
of
the
body
and
that
would
constitute
a
violation
of
the
brown
act.
A
serial
meeting
is
a
series
of
communications
that
ultimately
involve
a
majority
to
discuss,
deliberate
or
take
action
on
an
issue
within
the
body.
Subject
matter
jurisdiction.
M
There
are
two
typical
or
traditional
ways
that
an
unlawful
serial
meeting
might
occur.
One
is
referred
to
as
the
daisy
chain,
and
this
is
an
example
where
you
know,
member
a
contacts.
Member
b,
who
then
contacts
member
c,
who
then
contacts
member
d
so
on
until
a
quorum,
has
discussed
a
subject
outside
of
a
noticed
public
meeting.
M
The
other
typical
serial
meeting
is
called
the
hub
and
spoke,
and
this
is
sort
of
like
a
bicycle
wheel,
where
there
is
one
person
in
common
who
speaks
to
various
members
and
that
ultimately
involves
a
majority
of
the
body
and
the
most
common
way
this
might
occur,
and
what
you
need
to
be
cautious
about.
As
do
all,
bodies
that
are
subject
to
the
product
is
through
email.
M
So
a
couple
of
good
practices
to
avoid
serial
meetings
through
email
is
that
members
of
the
body
should
send
communications
to
the
staff
liaison.
So
mr
gaines
should
be
your
primary
contact
rather
than
emailing.
Your
fellow
board
members,
please
work
through
your
staff
liaison
and
then
be
cautious
when
forwarding
or
replying
all,
to
emails
and
in
the
use
of
social
media.
M
M
E
M
And
a
body
of
this
size
with
seven
members,
three
can
speak
together
on
public
safety
issues
and
it
wouldn't
constitute
a
brown
act
violation
because
it's
less
than
the
majority,
but
the
rules
on
social
media
are
a
bit
more
strict.
At
this
point,
I
think
it's
still
an
evolving
area
of
the
law,
but
it
is
something
to
be
cautious
about
so
and
and
these
allowances
in
ab-992
assume
that
this
activity
is
occurring
on
a
open
and
accessible
social
media.
M
M
So
two
people
talking
that's
not
a
meeting
they
they
could
become
a
serial
meeting
if
two
people
talk
and
then
one
of
them
talks
to
another
and
one
of
them
and
then
they
talk
to
another.
But
two
members
speaking
or
you
you,
as
a
member
speaking
to
a
member
of
the
public
one
other
person
that
that's
not
a
meeting,
there's
also
an
exception
for
conferences
and
seminars
that
are
open
to
the
public.
M
So
long
as
you
didn't
discuss,
city,
business
or
pisa
business
at
that
meeting.
The
same
is
true
of
community
meetings
and
those
are
community
meetings
that
are
also
open
to
the
public,
they're
open
and
publicized
and
and
they're
meetings
that
are
not
held
by
the
city.
So
you
know
a
neighborhood
association
that
holds
a
meeting
that
is
open
to
the
general
public
as
well.
A
majority
could
attend
that
as
long
as
you
don't
discuss
pisa
business
at
that
meeting
amongst
yourselves,
so
unless
it's
part
of
a
notice
program.
M
M
M
Regular
special
and
adjourned,
most
importantly,
the
regula
regular
meetings
are
those
that
are
yours
on
your
established
schedule
at
the
established
date
and
time
and
agendas
have
to
be
posted
72
hours
in
advance.
They
have
to
contain
a
brief
description
of
what
you
will
be
discussing
or
acting
upon,
and
this
agenda
must
be
freely
accessible
to
the
public
and
at
all
regular
meetings.
You
must
have
a
general
comment
period
for
the
public,
so
not
only
is
there
and
we
we
had
our
general
comment
period
before
this
part
of
the
meeting
started.
M
So
there
is
a
distinction
in
the
brown
act
for
special
meetings,
and
these
are
usually
called
on
a
shorter
time
frame,
but
in
mountain
view,
typically-
and
I
suspect
this
will
be
true
for
your
body
when
we
have
special
meetings-
it's
usually
because
the
the
meeting
is
starting
at
a
slightly
different
time
than
would
typically,
and
so,
if
your
regular
meeting
time
is
7
p.m
and
you
start
at
6
p.m.
That's
a
special
meeting,
and
so
we
we
generally
follow
all
the
rules
for
regular
meetings,
even
for
what
we
call
special
meetings.
M
M
You
are
confined
to
speak
to
those
topics
at
the
meetings,
but
the
public
during
the
general
comment
period
can
bring
up
anything,
that's
related
to
public
safety.
They
might
bring
up
things
that
they
want
you
to
think
about
for
a
future
meeting
or
they
might
talk
about
something
you've
spoken
about
before
the
public
is
entitled
to
a
more
broad
scope
of
comment
at
meetings
than
than
then
members
of
the
body
are
so
the
public
comment
must
be
allowed
before
or
during
consideration
of
an
item.
M
There
are
rules
of
decorum
that
are
allowed
and
time
limits
on
public
comment
are
permissible,
as
we
have
been
using
here.
Speakers
generally
should
speak
through
the
chair
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
they
shouldn't
address
individual
members
of
the
board
or
staff
or
each
other.
It's
just
a
recipe
for
a
meeting
getting
a
little
out
of
hand.
M
So
you
know,
typically,
you
might
have
heard
people
say
through
the
chair.
Obviously
you
don't
have
to
use
that
work,
that
those
words
but
address
the
chair
in
general
comments
should
be
germane
to
the
scope
of
the
of
the
work
of
the
body,
and
I
would
know,
while
disruptive
speakers
can
be
ejected
from
a
meeting,
they
have
to
be
causing
an
actual
disruption
to
to
allow
for
that
very
extreme
remedy.
D
M
M
So
more
typically,
members
of
the
board
can
provide
a
brief
response
to
comments
or
questions
that
come
up
from
the
public,
with
the
emphasis
on
brief
it
can't
there
shouldn't
be
a
you
know,
five
minute
discussion
that
ensues
from
a
comment
that
a
member
of
the
public
made.
You
can
also
ask
for
clarifications
or
refer
a
matter
to
staff.
M
M
This
is
this
is
less
typical
that
there
would
be
litigation
that
ensues,
but
it's
the
kind
of
reputational
harm.
I
think
that
is
the
more
common
consequence
and
I
made
it
all
the
way
through.
I
I
didn't
know
if
melvin
wanted
quite
or
if
we
have
time
we
may
not
have
time,
but
I
also
wanted
to
just
note.
A
B
So
on
matters
that
I
find
like,
let's
say
I
read
an
article
about
community
policing
or
actions
that
another
government
has
taken,
that
they've
seen
a
reduction
in
recidivism
or
whatever,
and
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
the
rest
of
the
board.
I
would
send
that
to
melvin,
yes,
okay,
so
so,
if
I
like,
you
know,
I
I'm
out
hiking,
I
I'm
reading
an
article.
I
find
it
might
be
pertinent
to
mountain
view
and
I'd
like
to
potentially
discuss
it.
Yeah
like
in
public.
Like
does
this.
Would
this
method
work
for
mountain
update
yeah?
M
Yeah,
I'm
not
quite
sure
about
your
agenda
setting
process
and
I
think
maybe
melvin
and
the
rest
of
you
will
discuss
that
later
in
the
meeting.
However,
for
you,
but
your
specific
example,
what
I
would
do
is
send
that
information
to
melvin
and
he
may
be
compiling
that
information.
It
would
also
be
shared
with
the
public.
So,
whatever
all
of
the
board
members
received,
it
would
be
posted
to
be
available
to
the
public.
So
they
would
know
all
the
information
that
you're
considering.
N
A
F
We
literally
had
to
not
allow
one
city
member
council
member
to
come
in
because
he
wanted
to
come
in.
We
say
no,
you
can't
they're.
Already
three
city
council
members
come
back
in
two
hours,
so
that
worked
and
then
the
other
comment
is.
I
would
tell
all
the
members
of
this
lovely
board
that
the
staff
members
in
all
my
experience
nine
years
on
the
hrc,
they've
always
been
very,
very
resourceful
anything
you
need
just
reach
out
to
them.
F
D
A
Seeing
none
so
thank
you
very
much
miss
lee.
We
appreciate
the
the
brown
neck
training.
You
know
it's
super
useful
and
relevant.
Obviously,
as
we
are
embarking
on
this
new
advisory
board-
and
you
know
mostly
new
commissioners-
some
of
our
members
have
experience
serving
other
mountain
view.
Commissions
and
others
are,
are
brand
new.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
I
will
move
on
to
item
4.2
discussion
of
the
city
council,
advisory
bodies
handbook.
A
I'd
also
like
this
to
provide
the
opportunity
for
everyone
to
introduce
yourselves
a
bit
and
I'll
I'll.
Let
you
know
when
and
with
that,
to
kind
of
establish
some
group
norms
of
things
that
we
believe
would
be
useful
for
us
as
a
body
as
far
as
working
styles
and
communication
styles
and
things
that
would
help
this
body
function
effectively
as
far
as
how
we
interact
with
one
another,
both
during
these
public
meetings,
as
well
as
if
you
meet
outside,
of
a
public
meeting
in
a
non-brownex
violation,
type
of
way.
A
O
A
A
Ultimately,
city
council
advisory
bodies
assist
the
city
council
to
make
policy
decisions.
However,
advisory
bodies
do
not
set
or
establish
city
policy.
You
also
don't
independently
provide
direction
to
city
staff
that
the
city
council
sets
policy
direction
and
they
direct
the
council,
hires
the
city
manager
and
the
city
attorney
the
city
clerk
and
the
mass
majority
of
the
rest
of
us
city
staff
members
are
under
the
direction
of
the
city
manager
or
their
designees.
Various
different
department,
heads
or
managers.
A
As
far
as
kind
of
guidelines
and
responsibilities
for
you,
as
a
council
opponent,
advisory
body
member,
there
are
kind
of
two
core
things
that
all
members
are
expected.
One
is
being
present
at
meetings,
if
you,
if
you
fail
to
be
present
and
are
absent
for
three
unexcused
meetings,
consecutive
meetings,
you
may
be
removed
from
the
body
by
a
city
council,
and
we
also
is
an
expectation
that
members
of
the
advisory
body
as
agents
of
the
city
are
moral.
A
Considering
how
you
may
interact
with
the
public,
you
may
do
so
somewhat
freely.
Members
of
city
boards,
commissions
and
committees
are
representatives
of
the
city
of
mountain
view.
However,
you're
allowed
to
have
your
individual
opinions,
but
it's
important
that
you
are
clear
when
you're
making
comments
as
a
whether
you're
making
that
comment
as
a
representative
of
the
public
safety
advisory
board
and
the
city
of
mountain
view,
meaning
that
this
comment
reflects
a
collective
decision
of
the
public
safety
advisory
board.
Furthermore,
that
the
city
council.
A
As
far
as
your
relationship,
the
relationship
between
a
advisory
board
member
and
the
city
council,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
city
council
appoints
advisory
boards.
You
all,
as
members
were,
appointed
to
help
the
council
to
fulfill
their
goals
and
vision
and
objectives
for
the
community,
but
you
may
still
take
opinion,
have
opinions
that
are
divergent
to
those
of
the
city
council.
A
Your
recommendations
as
a
public
safety
advisory
board
are
advisory
to
the
city
council,
the
council
values
the
input
of
the
psab
and
all
other
advisory
bodies,
but
there
are
times
when
the
city
council
may
not
accept
the
recommendation
or
may
decide
to
do
something
different
than
what
the
advisory
body
recommended
and,
of
course,
any
final
city
position
that
you're
going
to
communicate
should
definitely
be
that
that
has
been
absorbed
and
enhanced
and
endorsed
by
the
city
council.
Prior
to
stating
that
this
is
an
opinion
of
the
city.
The
city
council
should
endorse
that.
A
As
far
as
access
to
information,
captain
canfield-
and
I
are
here
to
serve
you
we're
here
to
provide
you
with
information
that
you
may
request
to
an
extent
as
long
as
we
can
do
it
and
within
our
our
capacity
and
it's
not
going
to
involve
a
great
level
of
time
beyond
our
regular
kind
of
responsibilities,
then
we
can.
We
can
fulfill
that
request,
but
a
request
that
is
greater
than
captain
can
filled.
A
As
a
general
rule
board,
members
are
allowed
to
have
subcommittees.
You
cannot
take
on
a
life
of
your
own
as
a
subcommittee,
a
three
of
the
seven
of
you
can
form
a
subcommittee
and
you
can
take
on
a
particular
project,
but
you
can't
really
set
the
clear
policy
for
that.
You
can
bring
it
back
to
the
entire
public
safety
advisory
board
to
to
adopt
that
recommendation.
But
you're
allowed
to
do
that.
However,
you're
not
allowed
to
independently
use
resources,
monies
and
things
of
that
matter.
A
A
And
with
that,
I
did
mention
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
group
agreements
again.
These
are
things
that
will
help
us
function.
Well
as
a
board,
there
are
seven
different
public
safety
advisory
board
members.
You
all
have
bring
different
experiences,
you
have
different
backgrounds
and
you
have
different
styles,
so
I
wanted
to
take
some
time
today.
First
I'd
like
to
ask
you
guys,
if
you
have
any
questions
from
what
I
presented,
but
then
I'd
like
to
discuss
these
group
agreements
and
really
just
establish
some
agreements
that
would
help
the
psab
operate
effectively.
C
C
A
I
call
you
all
a
member,
because
that's
what
I
figured
was
a
great
way
to
start
and
be
respectful
initially,
but
you
all
have
the
liberty
to
say.
If
you
want
me
to
reference
you,
otherwise,
myself,
I'm
happy
with
melvin,
I'm
happy
with
mr
gaines,
I'm
happy
with
those
two
things
and
captain
canfield
again,
I'm
being
informal,
but
once
we
get
a
feel
for
each
other,
and
maybe
people
want
to
be
called
by
their
first
name.
Then
we
may
do
so.
It's
you
all
set
the
the
tone
for
that.
B
So
yeah
with
regards
to
addressing
people-
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
you
know
we're
talking
about
now
or
I
I
will
admit,
I'm
definitely
a
little
more
of
derek
works
for
me.
You
know
I've
been
called
trooper
langton
before
and
I
wasn't
necessarily
thrilled
with
official
titles,
but
I'm
willing
to
go
with
whatever
the
group
as
a
whole
kind
of
would
like
to
you
know
in
addressing
each
other,
whatever
they
feel.
A
A
F
I
will
send
somebody
on
there.
Well,
my
name
is
cal
want
sand.
Do
everyone
calls
me
cal?
For
short,
sometimes
you
use
my
middle
name.
Sing
depends
on
who
under
can
call
me,
but
my
first
name.
It
doesn't
matter
that
sounds
respectful
and
I
try
to
be
respectful
and
respectful
of
everyone
else
too.
So
I'm
originally
from
singapore,
been
here
for
40
years,
served,
went
to
university
of
san
francisco
on
a
soccer
scholarship,
and
then
I
went
to
university
of
phoenix.
F
F
We
also
literally
addressed
each
other
by
first
name,
even
the
staff
member,
but
I
know
that
whenever
things
got
a
little
testy
people
started
to
use
the
name
like
a
commissioner.
Sandu
so
became
a
bit
more
formal,
so
you
know.
Hopefully
we
don't
have
to
do
that,
but
if
either
way
it's
fine
with
me,
that's
my
two
cents.
For
that
I
am
a
businessman.
I
am
a
mentor.
I
do.
I
teach
young
entrepreneurs
around
the
world,
I'm
a
professional
youth
soccer
player,
I'm
a
coach.
F
I
just
came
back
from
coaching
70
girls
in
palo
alto
at
psb
union
football
club,
and
I
do
I'm
an
inch.
One
of
my
businesses
is
in
life
insurance
and
fixed
income
annuities.
So
those
are
the
things
I
do
I
like
to
keep
busy.
I
I've
told
people,
I've,
never
retired,
because
I
look
silly
in
golf
bands
and
I
don't
like
boring
games,
so
I'm
I
like
to
keep
myself
busy.
F
That's
one
reason
why
I
volunteered
to
come
back
after
a
haters
of
well
nine
years,
eight
nine
years
when
I
was
termed
out
in
2012
from
the
hrc,
so
I
hope
I
know
this
is
a
great
bunch
and
I
could
already
sense
it
a
lot
of
we
can
bring
a
lot
of
positiveness
into
our
community.
So
that's
what
I
my
input
is:
I'm
I'll
leave
it
to
someone
else
to
take
the
microphone
now.
Thank
you.
A
F
Yes,
be
respectful,
courteous,
you
know
just
in
somebody
else's
shoes.
I've
always
said
this
to
even
young
kids
that
you
have
two
eyes.
So
look
more!
Look
before
you
do
anything.
You
have
two
ears,
listen
three
times
two
times
as
much.
You
got
two
nostrils
breathe
in
breathe
out
as
much,
but
you
got
one
mouth
so
use
your
brain
before
you
open
your
mouth,
so
that
avoids
a
lot
of
problems.
That's
that's
my.
N
N
All
right,
thank
you.
I've
lived
in
mountain
view
for
off
and
on
for
the
last
10
years
or
a
little
bit
more
and
I
spent
most
of
my
working
life
in
mexico
city,
so
I'm
bilingual.
I
think
that
one
of
the
reason
people
wanted
me
here
was
because
they
thought
I
might
be
latina
and
I
have
one
foot
in
the
latin
community
so
I'm
interested
in
in
this,
because
I
was
alarmed
at
that.
I'm
interested
in
this
group
because
I
was
alarmed
at
the
george
floyd
upset
a
year
ago.
N
C
C
I'm
I'm
here
because
I
believe
communities
can
evolve
and
I
believe
community
policing
can
evolve
and
I'm
excited
about
the
possibilities,
and
so
I'd
like
to
end.
I
wanted
to
be
part
of
it
and
that's
why
I
put
my
through
my
hat
in
the
ring
to
potentially
be
on
here
in
terms
of
group
agreements.
For
me,
it's
I
think
it's
just
an
awareness
of
the
space
that
you're
occupying
and
the
space
you're
taking
up
and
making
sure
there's
room
for
other
folks.
C
I
think
everyone's
voice
is
really
important
to
hear
and
it
helps
when,
when
you
yourself
are
aware
of
the
space
that
you're
taking
up,
and
secondly,
I
would
really
encourage
everyone
to
do
the
work
right.
So
I
don't
think
the
work
just
happens
in
these
meetings
in
these
regular
or
special
meetings,
but
I
think
there
might
be
work.
I
don't
just
think.
I
know
there
is
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
meeting
with
members
of
the
community
meeting
with
some.
C
I
think
one
of
our
public
commenters
talked
about
students
and
sros
talking
to
the
school
board
there
talking
to
police
officers
right
that
I
I
just
hope
that
that
folks
are
willing
to
do
the
work,
to
really
understand
the
overall
context
of
a
situation
and
not
just
limiting
it
to
our
time
here
and
I'm
fine
being
called
kavita.
I
don't
need
to
be
addressed
as
member.
D
I
am
also
a
police
explorer
at
the
mountain
view,
police
department
and
I
think,
some
of
my
experiences
there
could
be
helpful
or
beneficial
as
part
of
the
conversation,
I'm
fine
with
being
called
jeannette,
and
I
think
one
of
the
group
agreements
that
I
think
could
be
helpful
is
to
be
open
to
new
and
a
variety
of
platforms
of
communication,
and
I
think
that
might
help
us
reach
out
to
a
wider
variety
of
people.
Thank
you.
B
There
you
go
so
yeah,
I'm
happy
with
derek
I'll,
second
or
third,
that
we
don't
necessarily
need
titles.
But
again,
whatever
everybody
agrees
upon,
I
I
think
I
think
we
could.
All
some
of
us
might
want
to
be
called
he
him
or
they
or
whatever
to
me,
it's
it's
more
just
what
each
person
really
I'd
like
to
identify
each
member
by
what
they
feel
most
comfortable
with.
As
far
as
my
background,
I've
done
all
kinds
of
things
like
driving
tractor
trailers.
B
I
think
I
bring
a
good
perspective
as
far
as
a
larger
department
and
kind
of
the
biases
that
I
that
were
basically
trained
in
me
through
through
modeling
that
I
honestly
always
took
offense
to-
and
you
know,
tried
not
to
copycat
those
behaviors
when
I
felt
that
they
were
wrong.
I've
been
out
in
california
for
about
since
2011
I
moved
here
with
my
husband.
B
I
met
him
in
boston,
but
he's
a
saratoga
resident.
I
grew
up
in
saratoga,
went
to
mit.
He
was
an
ex-googler.
He
started
back
in
2003.
I
was
exposed
to
the
silicon
valley
culture.
While
we
did
a
long
distance
relationship
going
to
google
christmas
parties
and
seeing
all
these
people
that
thought
more
collegiate
like
or
collaboratively,
whereas
you
know
where
I
worked,
they
were
like
you
make
the
decision,
you
make
the
decision
right
and
you
follow
it
through.
B
You
know,
and
it
was
amazing
to
come
out
and
and
see
this
other
world
that
I
felt
like
I
was
living
in
a
fantasy
land,
and
so
I
yeah
I
look
forward
to
bringing
all
my
experiences
and
you
know
my
interaction
with
people
in
silicon
valley
and
mountain
view.
I
even
volunteer
at
csa
at
the
food
bank
and
I've
enjoyed
contributing
to
the
community.
B
I
I
really
feel
like
the
group's
pretty
diverse
and
honest
and
genuine,
and
I
I
you
know,
I
really
value
the
diversity
of
it
and
yeah.
I
don't
yeah
to
me,
it
seems
like
it
should
go
pretty
well,
we
seem
very
respectful
for
each
other
again.
I
I
think
I'm
the
only
agreement
I
have
is,
you
know,
call
each
other
or
by
whatever
what
makes
us
comfortable.
G
G
So
if
I,
if
I
call
you
something
more
formal
than
you
are
comfortable
with
I'm
sorry,
I
might
need
to
some
training
with
that.
Whatever
you
would
like
to
call
me
is
fine,
but
please
remember
that
my
first
name
is
pronounced
eva,
not
eva
and
I'm
here,
because
I
was
also
distraught
at
the
murder
of
george
floyd
and
also
brianna
taylor
and
countless
others
starting
last
year,
and
I
am
the
type
of
person
to
do
something
about
it.
G
O
O
I've
co-chaired
the
last
two
bond
and
parcel
tax
measures
for
this
district,
and
I
sat
on
several
very
difficult
task
forces
for
them,
including
all
three
boundaries,
conversations
the
past
six
or
seven
years
in
the
past,
I've
written
voting
districts
for
a
city
of
about
700,
000
people
and
done
a
lot
of
other
advocacy
work
in
most
of
my
life.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
with
police
departments
through
neighborhood
watch
and
other
crime
prevention
programs.
O
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
my
father
and
I
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
with
the
city
on
how
he
created
one
of
the
earliest
versions
of
this
kind
of
board
in
the
70s
and
my
father
passed
away
about
10
days
ago,
and
so
before
he
got
a
chance
to
see
this
meeting,
and
so
it's
an
honor
to
participate
in
this,
and
I
thank
the
city
for
their
kindness
in
in
their
discussions
with
him.
I
am
a
filmmaker
and
a
content
producer
by
profession
and
I've
lived
in
mountain
view.
O
O
I
think
it's
a
couple
things
that
I
would
like
for
us
to
to
consider,
and
one
of
which
is
to
remember
that
the
problems
and
the
solutions
we're
seeking
and
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
improve
in
this
city
are
unique
to
our
city
and
not
the
problems
that
we
see
on
tv
faced
in
other
governments
and
in
other
cities
around
the
country.
We
don't
have
the
same
problems
that
other
police
departments
have,
and
we
shouldn't
try
to
create
those
issues
here,
so
that
we
can
then
solve
them.
O
I'd
like
for
us
to
focus
on
the
things
that
our
community
needs
and
not
things
that
we
don't,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
these
are
issues
that
are
fraught
with
personal
experience,
my
own
among
them,
and
they
are
emotional.
And
I
would
like
for
us
to
remember
that.
We
may
not
agree
on
on
solutions
and
pathways
to
these
things.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
respect
each
other's
opinions
or.
A
A
A
As
we
mentioned,
we
got
to
speak
with
his
father
and
had
a
a
robust
conversation
for
an
hour
and
a
half
two
hours,
and
he
was
just
telling
us
about
all
the
ways
that
the
model
of
public
oversight
was
used
in
melbourne
florida,
as
well
as
many
other
communities
where
it
was
additional
built
to
make
personal
to
those
different
communities.
But
that
model
was
implemented
in
various
different
communities
and
ultimately
that
informed
our
recommendation
to
form
this
body.
A
So
your
father's
guidance
was
was
very
useful
and
I
again
it
informed
the
formation
of
this
committee
and
I
think
that
this
public
safety
advisory
board,
although
different
from
what
went
on
in
melbourne,
will
have
his
hands
kind
of
sprinkled
into
it.
So
thank
you
for
offering
your
father
and
condolences
to
you
and
thank
you
for
being
here
with
that.
A
P
Absolutely
bored
people
watching
I'm
mike
canfield,
I'm
a
police
captain
here
at
the
mountain
view,
police
department-
I've
been
here
for
a
little
over
22
years.
Currently
I
oversee
all
of
our
field
operations,
division,
which
in
short
means
everybody
in
a
uniform,
is
under
my
my
purview.
There's
two
captains,
one
runs
support
operations,
the
other
runs
field
operations.
A
A
Thank
you
for
the
comment,
mr
salzman.
That
is
noted.
We
aren't
allowed
to
respond
to
that
item.
Necessarily
it's
not
necessarily
on
the
agenda
or
it's
not
related
to
this
item,
but
you
will
hear
later
about
how
the
public
safety
advisory
body
advisory
board
will
set
forth
its
work
plan
and
how
that
inputs,
how
that
impacts
recommendations
to
the
city
council?
H
Great
to
meet
you
all,
I'm
looking
forward
to,
I
will
all
be
attending
most
of
these
meetings.
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
work
that
y'all
get
together
and-
and
do
I
know
a
couple
you
from
mvpdx
was
great
working
with
you
had
some
really
nice
conversations
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
work
in
the
board
thanks.
Good
luck,.
P
A
P
Mike
canfield,
please
captain
the
board
has
received
a
memorandum
detailing
the
work
plan
process
and
providing
an
overview
of
city
council
policy
a23,
but
staff
would
like
to
review
the
process
with
the
board
city
council
policy.
A23
requires
that
the
public
safety
advisory
board,
like
all
advisory
bodies,
provide
a
work
plan
to
city
council
for
review
and
approval.
P
The
process
of
determining
the
work
plan
is
normally
done
during
the
summer
months
and
submitted
to
city
council
in
september.
That
being
said,
staff
proposes
that
the
public
safety
advisory
board
discuss
your
work
plan
items
during
the
next
two
months
june
and
july
to
inform
your
discussion.
Staff
will
provide
the
board
with
updates
on
work
already
done
by
the
human
relations
commission's
ad
hoc
subcommittee
on
race
equity
inclusion
often
referred
to
as
the
hrc
and
the
rei.
P
There
are
four
main
there.
There
are.
The
following
topics
have
been
prioritized
by
city
council
and
the
rei
as
an
area's
importance
in
no
particular
order.
The
four
topics
are:
mountain
dew,
police
departments,
racial,
stop,
data,
alternative
responses
to
mental
health
incidents,
community
input
from
the
hrc,
listening
forums
on
local
policing
and
the
mountain
view
police
department,
school
resource
officer
program.
P
A
P
So
the
city
council
would
like
to
have
their
own
council
meeting
or
had
their
own
study
session
regarding
the
school
resource
officer
program,
and
that
was
the
request
was
to
have
that
by
or
they
would
like
to
have
that
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So
the
only
timeline
for
those
four
general
topics,
if
that
is
what
you
propose,
will
be
for
the
ability
for
your
board
or
our
board
to
to
complete
its
work
on
the
school
resource
officer
program
prior
to
the
the
council
session.
A
C
A
P
Maybe
I'll
I'll
start
and
then
melvin
will
fix
whatever
I
mess
up,
it's
not
what
you're
required
to
adopt
is
your
work
plan.
I
think
there's
a
request
for
you
to
review
those
issues,
perhaps
even
an
expectation,
certainly
on
the
school
resource
officer
issue
that
was
specifically
addressed,
but
ultimately,
I
believe
the
decision
to
the
request
to
city
council
for
your
work
plan
is
yours
to
make.
However,
I
think
these
are
the
the
areas
of
previous
work
and
discussion
by
the
hrc,
as
well
as
by
city
council.
B
D
A
Sure
I'll
take
that
one,
so
this
was
just
recently
discussed
on
tuesday
and
the
city
council
would
like
to
discuss
the
topic
of
school
resource
officers
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year.
Whether
or
not
that
means
that
this
body,
the
psalm,
has
to
be
done
with
whatever
you
all
propose
to
do
is
somewhat
independent
of
that.
But
ideally,
what
this
body
is
able
to
do
would
help
inform
the
city
council's
discussion.
F
Basically,
we
advised
and
recommended
that
every
member
of
the
commission
bring
as
many
ideas
as
possible
and
then
we
categorize
them,
and
then
we
decide
what
exactly
our
priorities
are
in
conjunction
with
some
of
the
recommendations
of
the
city
council
and
that
way
we
can
have
a
solid
work
plan
and
work
on
it
throughout,
and
so
I
would
highly
recommend
that
whatever
ideas
are
bad
ideas
projects,
you
have
bring
it
to
the
table
and
that
makes
it
a
good
work
plan.
Otherwise
you
know
we
are
just
picking
and
choosing.
If
you
bring
anything
you
have.
F
B
Yeah,
just
one
more
so
as
far
as
the
school
resource
officer
officer
issue,
even
though
we
don't
have
a
work
plan
for
this
current
fiscal
year,
what
we
can
basically
put
forward
through
you
an
agenda
item
that
we
want
to
discuss
school
resource
officers.
You
know
in
next
months
or
the
months
afterwards
meeting.
How
does
how
does
stuff
that
doesn't
have
a
work
plan
factor
into
trying
to
get
it
accomplished
before
the
end
of
the
year?.
B
B
B
A
A
No
problem,
thank
you.
So
if
there
are
no
more
questions,
did
I
open
public
comment
on
this
item?
Yet?
Did
someone
remind
me
I
did
not
thank
you.
I
would
like
to
open
this
up
to
public
comment
again
going
to
stick
with
90
seconds
for
comments,
and
with
that
I
will
begin.
I
see
that
tim
mckenzie
has
his
hand
raised.
So
mr
mckenzie.
H
Hi,
oh,
I
really
want
to
echo
what
one
of
the
members
said
earlier
about
looking
at
the
situation
in
mountain
view,
which
is
a
place
that,
while
the
citizens
were
calling
for
defunding,
the
police
and
city
council
was
saying
everything
is
okay.
The
police
were
calling
in
palo
alto
police
k-9
unit
to
sick
their
dog
on
someone.
This
is
the
department
that
hired
someone
who
was
involved
in
an
officer
involved,
shooting
in
sunnyvale
and
then
pulled
someone
through
their
car
window
and
there's
now
a
10
million
dollar
lawsuit.
H
But
this
is
not
the
law
enforcement
advisory
board.
I
don't
think
anyone
wants
to
turn
this
into
police
bashing.
This
is
the
public
safety
advisory
board
and
I
really
hope
that
there
will
be
a
broad
view
of
what
public
safety
is,
especially
looking
through
the
framework
of
maslow's
hierarchy
of
needs
where
physiological
needs
need
to
be
addressed
before
safety
needs.
That's
primary.
The
community
services
agency
fills
a
lot
of
those
basic
needs
for
our
neighbors
mental
health
response
has
been
brought
up
a
few
months
ago.
H
H
A
L
Brown,
all
right,
hey
for
selfish
reasons.
I
want
as
many
study
sessions
as
you
guys
can
fit
in.
I
feel
like
there's
no
such
thing
as
too
much
information
or
too
deep
in
analysis,
and
if
you
have
the
opportunity
to
bring
light
and
clarity
to
very
murky
issues
that
face
the
residents
of
mountain
view,
I
think
you
should
do
it
it's
folly
to
make
recommendations
without
context
or
details,
and
now
is
the
time
to
do
your
due
diligence
and
for
melvin
to
put
together
some
fun
and
informative
presentations.
L
J
J
I
also
really
think
what
alex
brown
said
about
having
as
much
outreach
as
possible
to
the
public,
because
I
know
for
a
fact:
there
are
people
who
aren't
underrepresented
and
are
actually
fearful
about
talking,
even
in
this
and
like
in
this
space.
So
I'm
hopeful
we
can
reassure
them,
get
outreach
and
get
more
people
involved
in
this
and
lots
more
feedback,
because
there
are
a
ton
of
various
opinions
and
we
want
to
hear.
J
E
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
as
you
go
forward,
doing
outreach
for
people
that
you
also
keep
in
mind
that
a
ton
of
work
has
already
been
done
on
this
topic
by
hrc,
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
in
your
interest
to
look
at
the
stories
that
they
have
the
the
outreach
they've
already
done
as
you
as
you
work
in
the
future,
because
they've
they've
spent.
I
I
think
weeks,
if
not
months,
on
this
on
this
exact
sort
of
outreach,
so
it
would
be
useful.
Thank
you.
A
A
I'm
in
time,
sorry
so,
with
with
moving
on
to
item
4.3,
you
as
a
public
safety
advisory
board,
have
the
liberty
to
nominate
any
member
of
this
body.
As
chair,
all
seven
of
you
are
eligible
to
become
chair.
Your
term
will
run
from
it'll
be
an
annual
term
running
from
the
date
of
your
initial
appointment,
which
was
april
13th
of
2021
through
april
12th
of
2022.
N
A
A
B
A
A
B
Yeah,
yes,
okay,
I
was
going
to
nominate
two
people.
One
of
them
has
already
been
nominated,
so
I
now
nominate
cleave
frank,
I
think,
is
the
historical
component
of
his
father
participating
in
the
you
know:
formation
of
a
public
safety
advisory
board-
and
I
just
I
don't
know
it's
nice
to
see
that
continuation.
B
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
kavita.
As
the
newly
nominated
and
appointed
chair.
Would
you
like
to
take
us
through
the
remainder
of
this
meeting,
beginning
with
the
election
of
a
vice
chair
and
then
going
into
item?
Five?
Is
board
staff,
comments,
questions
and
reports
and
I
totally
messed
up
and
I
apologize
because
we've
already
taken
action,
but
I
did
not
open
public
comment.
So
members
of
the
public,
please
forgive
me,
I
I
didn't
ask
you
if
you
want
to
speak,
I
will
do
that
now.
H
J
A
D
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
A
J
C
O
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
about
my
comment
earlier
about
how
we
should
focus
on
our
problems,
and
there
were
a
couple
of
comments.
After
about
a
couple
of
incidents
that
have
happened
in
the
city,
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
when
we
talk
about
these
issues,
police
issues
are
very
complex
and
we
can't
talk
about
these
issues
with
just
headlines.
O
And
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
that
we,
that
we
always
provide
all
of
the
information
so
that
everybody
has
all
the
context
and
that's
not
to
say
that
our
police
department
won't
make
mistakes
because
they're
made
up
of
humans,
and
so
people
will
make
mistakes.
But
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
always
being
fair
to
all
of
the
participants
in
these
incidents
so
that
all
the
information
is
provided
and
the
community
has
a
clear
picture
of
things
that
happen
in
the
way
that
they
happen.
Thank
you.
N
N
C
N
F
I
see
your
hand
up.
Yes,
thanks
guys.
Congratulations.
Thank
you.
Welcome
to
the
gavel
anyways.
I
want
to
echo
what
cliff
had
said
and
congratulations
to
you
too,
that
what
we
need
to
do
is
to
do
proper
due
diligence
in
line
with
what
joan
just
said
to
just
just
don't
follow
the
headlines.
Let's
get
the
grasp
of
what
the
meat
is,
because
without
that
we
would
be
doing
a
disservice
not
only
to
the
community
but
to
ourselves
as
a
preset.
F
So
that's
one
thing
I
really
want
us
to
do
is
you
know,
take
a
look
thoroughly
at
every
issue
and
then,
as
the
other
thing
I
would
really
like
is
you
know?
As
a
chair
I
had
one.
One
thing
I
do
did
was
talking
to
chief
vermeer
years
ago
that
when
you
see
a
kid,
especially
a
teenage
boy,
they
see
a
police
officer,
they
run
the
other
way
and
now
the
police
officers
think
why
they're
running
right.
My
kids,
three
boys
has
happened
to
them,
but
they
didn't
know
what
it
was.
So
they
ran.
F
One
boy
ran
everyone
ran
and
then
a
couple
of
cars
came
by,
but
I
told
him:
why
not
have
you
know
sheer
madness?
You
know
sometimes
previously
years
ago
they
did
to
the
beat.
I
don't
know
how
the
budget
set,
walk.
The
streets
say
hello
good
morning,
just
simple
things
like
that
and
for
a
little
while
that
worked.
But
you
know
after
that
I
don't
know
what
happened,
changes
and
I've
not
seen
as
many
police
officers
unless
there's
something
going
on
in
castro
street.
F
So
that's
one
of
the
line
item
work
plans.
I
would
like
to
see
back
on
the
table
but
again,
like
john
said,
we'll
just
write
it
all
down
and
we'll
bring
it
next
time,
but
as
for
the
agenda
for
next
time,
I
think
the
one
of
the
important
things
is
the
sro.
We
should
address
that
not
only
because
not
because
the
city
council
kind
of
once
they
got
a
deadline.
We
were
thinking
about
this
I
know
individually.
F
D
I
know
we
aren't
taking
any
action
right
now,
but
I
think
it
should
be
considered
that
if
we
want
to
kind
of
have
a
comprehensive
idea
of
what
what
students
think
of
sros
having
this
year's
students
before
graduation
would
be
really
valuable,
because
next
year
the
people
on
campus,
who
have
been
there
for
longest,
would
have
only
been
there
for
a
year
and
a
half
because
of
online
school.
So
I
think
they
would
be
lacking
experience
like
real
life
experience
with
sros.
D
So
then,
if
we
try
to
gather
opinion
then
by
the
next
school
year,
it
would
be
a
lot
more
of
what
people
think
they
think
about
sros
rather
than
based
on
their
real
life
experiences.
So
I
think
trying
to
get
this
class,
who
has
at
least
been
on
at
least
been
on
campus
for
two
and
a
half
years
to
to
kind
of
give
their
opinion
on
that.
C
D
D
So
I
think,
and
it's
anonymous
so
I
think
people
feel
a
lot
safer
kind
of
filling
out
the
filling
those
out.
So
maybe
if
we
could
work
with,
maybe
like
the
school
board
or
the
the
high
school,
because
I
know
I
think
it's
just
mountain
view-
high
school
to
kind
of
send
out
a
survey
and
make
sure
that
it's
anonymous
and
kind
of
ask
them
to
carry
that
survey
out
and
have
people
fill
it
out.
And
people
are
used
to
doing
that
at
that
year
as
well.
O
C
O
Just
wanted
to
to
comment
when
we're
talking
about
sros,
a
couple
of
things
that
we
have
to
remember
is
that
the
sro
program
is
a
resource
for
under-resourced,
kids
and
these
kids
don't
just
meet
sros
at
high
school.
They
start
working
with
event
elementary
school,
so
most
kids
in
our
city
have
had
a
relationship
with
nsro
of
one
name
or
another
throughout
most
of
their
history
in
this
district.
O
So
it's
important
to
remember
that
it's
also
important
to
remember
that
it's
a
resource
for
those
kids
who
are
under
resource,
so
a
lot
of
folks
are,
are
saying
that
this
is
a
program
that
isn't
needed
and
those
folks
are
not
the
subject
of
the
work
that
sros
do
and
it's
it's
it's
good
to
want
to
revise
things.
But
if
you
take
away
a
resource
from
a
group
that
needs
that
resource
and
as
a
youth,
basketball,
coach,
I'm.
I
firmly
believe
this
says
this
is
a
resource.
O
You
must
have
a
backfield
for
that,
and
so
that
has
to
be
part
of
the
conversation.
If
you
want
to
discuss
something
else-
and
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that-
and
it's
also
important
to
remember
that
the
sros-
don't
just
do
just
the
school
component-
they
also
do
a
lot
of
the
youth
services
and
youth
recreation
programs
that
the
police
department
runs
they're
tied
up
into
that
as
well,
and
there's
a
lot
of
success
in
the
work
that
those
teams
do.
B
And
if
you
have
an
officer
that
actually
can
do
an
enforcement
present
for
a
presence,
but
also
be
you
know,
an
open
ear
for
for
the
students
in
general
and
potentially
even
a
recruiting
opportunity
for
mountain
view.
Police
department
by
you
know,
modeling
what
a
police
officer
does
and
how
they
can
impact
the
the
community.
B
So
that's
just
my
somewhat,
but
I
do
think
the
kids
we
should
you
know
talk
to
some
kids
and
that
are
affected
by
them
and
hear
from.
Hopefully
hear
from
some
that
actually
have
engaged
with
the
resource
offices
directly,
but
also
ones
that
just
might
have
a
standoffish
opinion
and
are
scared
of
them
or
whatever.
F
C
D
B
Okay,
just
please
here's
one
more
quick
thing.
I
I
I
posted
a
a
a
link
in
the
chat.
If
people
have
the
time
to
read
it,
but
I'll
send
it
to
melvin,
basically
about
a
study
in
massachusetts
where
they
they
stopped
prosecuting
low-level
and
misdemeanor
crimes,
and
they
had
some
success
in
their
recidivism
rate.
You
know,
I
think
it
might
be
an
interesting
topic.
You
know
just
as
far
as
the
decisions
to
prosecute
low-level
offenders
and
what
impact
that
may
have.
C
C
A
That
that
is
something
that
we
would
prioritize
is
something
that
is
important
to
the
council
into
this
body.
We
would
find
a
way
to
at
least
make
you
know
a
informational
item
come
forward
or
we're
able
to
present
that
and
the
staff
liaisons
captain
campo
and
I
will
meet
with
you
and
cleve
to
set
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
Okay
flush,
that
out
in
our
in
our
meeting.
C
Okay,
do
I
do
I
need
to
open
this
section
melvin
to
public
comment?
Okay,
yeah,
it
might
be
dangerous.
We
know
who's
out
there.
Okay,
all
right!
Oh
no!
Am
I
not
allowed
to
make
jokes
if
I'm
the
chairper,
chairperson,
okay,
sorry,
so
is
there
anything
else
before
we
call
for
an
adjournment,
and
I
do
I
call
for
adjournment,
do
I
have
to
have
it
does
it
have
to
be
seconded?
Do
we
all
need
to
just
get
out
of
here.
F
One
last
thing
kavita
actually
had
to
put
my
hand
up.
I
would
really
recommend
that
all
members,
you
know
when
you
get
a
chance,
go
out
talk
to
the
public.
One
problem
we
had
in
the
early
days
of
the
hrc
was
that
we
met
once
every
two
months
and
when
you
told
people
you're
the
hrc,
they
said.
Can
I
get
a
job
with
the
city?
They
did
not
know
what
hrc
means.
This
is
a
little
different.
It's
public
safety
advice
you
bought,
so
do
it
cautiously.