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B
Thank
you.
So
this
is
the
council
policy
and
procedure
committee
meeting
of
September
28th
and
during
this
declared
state
of
emergency.
This
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
California
government
code,
section
54953e,
as
authorized
by
resolution.
Please
contact
city
clerk
mountainview.gov
to
attain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
B
All
members
of
the
council
policy
and
procedures
committee
will
participate
in
the
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
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May
do
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just
going
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say
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city's
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B
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B
Okay,
so
with
that,
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will
call
the
meeting
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order
at
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and
if
we
could
have
a
roll
call
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attendance,
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C
B
B
D
C
B
Yes,
thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
item
four
oral
Communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
a
person's
machine
to
address
the
committee
on
any
matter
that
is
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
limited
to
three
minutes.
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law
prohibits
the
committee
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items
and
I
see
one
hand
Bruce
England.
B
Let's
see,
do
I
need
to
do
anything,
Mr
England.
B
We
can't
hear
you
if
you're
talking
but
do
I
need
to
do
anything
to
unmute
him
or
anything.
He's.
A
Not
he's
not
muted,
oh
now,.
E
Great
thank
you
I'm
hearing
some
Echo
okay,
it
went
away
good
Bruce,
England,
whisman,
Station,
Drive
I
have
several
questions
and
I
know
that
none
of
these
are
on
the
agenda.
So
I
think
these
are
things
where
I'm
requesting
that
they
be
placed
on
a
future
agenda,
but
just
a
sec.
Okay.
Here
we
go
so
I'm
wondering
Who,
develops
questions
for
advisory
body
interviews.
I
know
that
they're
static
questions
that
are
asked,
but
I
have
not
seen
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
that.
E
That's
the
first
one
request
for
advisory
body
handbook
updates
around
residency
requirements.
There
was
a
recent
change
made
for
the
psab,
and
those
changes
might
be
reflected
in
a
future
update
to
the
handbook.
I
would
like
to
see
towels
for
all
the
advisory
bodies,
the
tentative
agendalists
for
all
some
advisory
bodies.
Do
it
some
don't,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
consistency.
E
There's
also
inconsistency
on
improved,
rather
on
responses
to
public
comments
during
meetings.
I
know
that
questions
can't
be
answered,
but
there
can
be
some
response.
This
is
also
inconsistent.
Cross-Advisory
bodies.
There's
much
feedback
to
members
of
the
public
as
possible
would
be
great,
there's
of
some
kind
of
means
for
advisory
bodies
to
regularly
report
back
to
council.
That's
not
in
place.
They
had
at
the
council
meetings
and
also
I'm
almost
done
as
much
as
possible.
E
If
meeting
packets
can
be
available
before
the
weekend,
that
would
be
great
because
oftentimes
people
only
have
the
weekends
to
work
on
it.
There
was
discussion
at
the
bpac
about
responding
to
zoom
comments.
You
know
in
the
chat
and
so
on
and
I
think
that
the
City
attorney
has
said
that
that
should
be
turned
off,
but
apparently
it's
happening
anyway
and
so
I
don't
know.
E
If
you
want
to
discuss
that-
and
lastly,
I've
said
this
before
in
other
meetings,
but
the
means
for
advisory
bodies
to
consider
legislation,
recommendations
back
to
city
council
that
didn't
show
up
on
any
of
the
work
plans
for
the
fiscal
year,
and
my
request
is
that
that
be
included
by
Council
a
direction
over
to
the
advisory
bodies
to
include
that
in
their
work
plan.
So
at
least
consider
it
because
most,
if
not
all
the
ADV
advisory
bodies
could
benefit
from
being
able
to
provide
that
input.
That's
a
lot,
but
I'm
done
foreign.
B
F
F
So
good
afternoon,
mayor
vice
mayor
and
council
members
today,
we'll
be
discussing
recommended
revisions
to
council
policy
B13
a
Mountain,
View,
employee,
home
buyer
and
relocation
assistance
program,
while
this
policy
outlines
the
relocation
program
in
addition
to
the
homebuyer
program,
today's
recommendations
are
solely
related
to
the
home
buyer
program
in
the
presentation,
we'll
briefly
review
the
major
elements
of
the
current
program
and
then
walk
through
the
loan
Provisions,
for
which
staff
is
recommending
revisions
to
address
recent
challenges
with
these
provisions
and
to
provide
administrative
flexibility
in
responding
to
employee
and
participant
needs.
F
Okay.
So
the
current
policy
that
stands
today
was
revised
in
2019
to
support
organizational
goals,
including
those
listed
here.
Those
listed
here
are
the
goals
that
today's
recommendations
are
intended
to
Future
to
further
support.
F
So
in
terms
of
Recruitment
and
Retention,
it's
been
discussed
as
employees
establishing
themselves
in
the
community
may
elect
to
work
longer
for
the
city
with
Community
ties
established
and
also
with
better
work-life
balance,
including
reduced
commute
time
in
terms
of
housing.
Market
challenges.
Housing
continues
to
be
a
challenge
for
those
in
and
around
Mountain
View,
including
the
attainability
of
home
ownership,
and
that
challenge
is
no
different
for
our
employees
and
then
in
terms
of
including
increasing
the
participation
in
the
program.
F
This
is
a
consideration
as
we
look
at
the
provisions
and
ensure
that
the
program
is
valuable.
It's
attainable
and
it's
flexible
to
include
reasonable
parameters
without
creating
unattainable
barriers
and
then,
lastly,
in
terms
of
streamlining
Administration,
we're
looking
at
including
reduced.
Excuse
me,
including
reasonable
parameters,
by
reducing
the
frequency
of
exceptions
that
must
go
before
Council.
F
Council
may
recall
that
the
last
two
loans
issued
under
this
policy
recently
required
Council
action
due
to
restrictions
in
the
current
policy,
so
that
kind
of
informs
us
to
where
we
are
a
brief
view
here
of
the
current
program
overview.
There
are
three
home
loan
categories
as
outlined
here.
Staff
is
not
recommending
changes
to
the
categories
you
see
here
or
to
the
loan
amounts.
F
Okay,
so
this
Slide
outlives
the
provisions
brought
before
you
today
for
consideration
I'll
Summarize
each
one
of
these
and
then
after
this
slide,
we'll
I'll
conclude
the
presentation.
A
welcome
discussion
so
in
terms
of
the
provisions
recommended
for
all
employee
loans
attached
to
the
memo
distributed
last
week
was
a
map
when
Council
approved
the
revised
policy
in
2019.
This
map
was
attached
to
the
report.
However,
it
may
have
been
unclear
whether
the
radius
was
determined
by
commute
miles
or
general
miles
as
outlined
on
the
map
attached.
F
So
staff
is
recommending
confirmation
of
the
general
radius
map
and
that
GIS
would
be
used
to
satisfy
the
requirement
of
proximity
to
Mountain
View
in
terms
of
the
interest-only
payment
periods.
The
current
policy
includes
a
three-year
provision.
Prior
policies
have
included
between
a
five
and
seven
year,
provision
to
allow
for
additional
flexibility,
requests
for
interest
only
payments
in
in
the
recommendation
from
staff
incred.
The
requests
for
interest
only
payments
would
be
reviewed
as
set
forth
in
administrative
guidelines
for
the
program.
F
The
city
would
ensure
that
recipients
are
aware
of
how
this
would
impact
their
future
payments
for
principal
and,
in
addition,
consideration
would
be
made
as
to
the
ability
for
the
city
to
recover
payments
from
participant,
employee,
paychecks
and
industry
standards
such
as
equity
in
the
home
housing
market
conditions
and
any
impact
to
being
able
to
provide
future
loans.
Through
this
program,
the
provisions,
the
last
two
Provisions
for
Council
appointee
and
department
head
loans,
have
both
been
prompted
by
the
city's
recent
experience
administering
loans.
F
In
accordance
with
the
current
policy
provision,
the
current
policy
requires
10
Equity
is
established
in
the
home,
which
may
be
reduced
for
department
heads
to
five
percent
by
the
city
manager
in
recognition
that
in
some
cases,
including
in
the
most
recent
Council
appointee
loans,
the
city's
loan
will
not
exceed
the
loan
amount
available
to
other
employees.
In
this
case,
First
Responders
have
a
loan
amount
limit
of
500
000
and
First.
F
Responders
do
not
have
an
equity
requirement,
so
in
accordance
with
this
staff,
it
recommends
removing
the
equity
requirement
entirely
for
Council
appointees
and
department
heads
in
the
case
that
the
city's
loan
does
not
exceed
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
consistency
in
the
issuance
of
loans
up
to
this
amount
for
other
employees
and
then,
lastly,
the
subordinate
loan
requirements
to
date.
The
provision
that
any
additional
loan
be
subordinate
to
the
city's
loan
has
been
difficult
to
obtain,
thereby
reducing
the
chances
of
a
successful
home
purchase.
B
Great,
thank
you.
So
are
there
any
questions
from
committee
members,
so
I
had
a
few.
What
do
you
know
what
the
industry
standard
is
for
the
term
of
interest?
Only
payments.
F
Something
that
Jesse
can
speak
to.
G
Yes,
hi
Jessie
Takahashi,
the
finance
administrative
Services
director
thanks
for
the
question,
so
there
are
interest
only
standards
in
the
industry,
so
that
is
a
common
provision
in
a
lot
of
loans
for
a
limited
period
of
time.
A
lot
of
them
are
in
adjustable
rate
mortgages
where
people
have
an
initial
period
of
time
to
grow
into
it.
G
Little
different
in
that
the
interest
rate
would
not
be
adjustable
but
be
fixed,
but
otherwise
in
the
industry
there,
that
that
is
a
fairly
common
provision.
B
G
Yeah
so
I
think
it's
up
I've
seen
up
up
to
10
years,
but
again
those
are
on
adjustable
or
eight
mortgages,
and
so
there's
you
know
they
work
a
little
bit
differently.
There's
more
risk
both
ways,
and
so
you
know
the
the
longer
you
go
out.
There
is
more
potential
that
your
interest
rate
could
go
down,
but
also
more
likely
generally
will
go
up,
can
go
up,
so
it
varies
yeah
anywhere
up
to
maybe
10
years.
B
So,
but
did
I
just
hear
you
say
that
you
don't
usually
see
interest
only
on
a
fixed
interest
rate
loan.
G
No
I
I
think
what
I
said
is
the
one
that
is
in
our
program
would
not
adjust,
so
it
would
be
a
fixed
loan
versus
the
ones
in
the
industry
typically
are
associated
with
adjustable
mortgages
which,
where
the
interest
rate
does
fluctuate
so
depending
upon
when
you
know
that
that
that
period
ends
that
that
could
then
lock,
in
whatever
rate,
is
at
that
time.
B
Right
yeah,
so
I
get
that
so
for
arms.
It
you
often
have
an
interest-only
loan
for
a
period
of
time.
I
guess
I'm,
I,
I,
don't
know
what
industry
standard
practices
are
for
fixed
rate
loans.
How
many
years
you
might
have
the
option
to
pay
interest
only
so,
but
I'll
move
on
on
page
two
of
the
draft
policy.
It
says
the
interest-only
period
could
be
up
to
seven
years
and
assessed
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
So
who
actually
does
the
assessment?
And
how
has
the
decision
made.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So
the
policy
as
outlined
in
the
policy
at
the
end
of
policy,
the
administrative
guidelines
are
created
and
approved
by
the
city
manager.
So
this
would
be
established
in
the
administrative
guidelines
so
that
it
can
be
reviewed
by
expertise,
staff
in
terms
of
the
the
different
Provisions,
not
only
in
terms
of
the
participants
ability
to
pay.
So
that
would
be
one
thing.
B
Okay,
so
it
could
be
that
the
terms
are
different
for
different
employees.
B
Okay,
I'm
curious,
why
it's
broken
out
into
two
periods
three
years
and
then
you
can
ask
for
up
to
seven
is
like
three
years
automatic.
F
Typically
yeah,
so
the
the
current
policy
allows
for
the
request
for
up
to
three
years
and
doesn't
request
a
review.
Often
someone's
situation
doesn't
change
as
quickly
or
as
drastically
as
significantly
I
would
say
within
a
three-year
period,
whereas
things
maintained
more
over
a
seven
year
period.
F
So
not
only
is
it
a
larger
impact
or
a
bigger
difference
to
the
few
future
payments
employees,
just
as
any
individuals
may
have
changes
in
their
situations,
and
so
it
allows
the
city
to
assess
essentially
closer
to
the
time
at
which
the
principal
payments
would
start.
Whether
or
not
additional
interest
only
could
have
impacts
that
should
be
considered
is.
F
No,
so
there
were
two
different
previous
policies
that
were
a
separate
one
for
all
employees
and
then
one
for
department,
heads
and
Council,
appointees
and
I
believe
the
one
for
department,
heads
and
council
appointees
did
not
have
a
tiered
system
had
different
Provisions
I'd
have
to
look.
Those
up
had
different
Provisions
to
safeguard
that
review
in
the
review
of
that
based
on
the
loan
Provisions,
but
it
was
not
in
a
tiered
approach
to
review
and
the
employee.
F
The
prior
employee
policy
for
a
loan
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
was
five
years
and
did
not
have
a
review
here.
Okay,.
B
B
F
G
Yes,
so
the
policy
indicates
that
it's
the
AFR
at
the
time
that
the
loan
is
originated.
So
that
would
be
when
basically
upon
closure
of
of
the
Paul
of
the
purchase
and
when
that
loan
is
is
made.
B
Okay
and
it's
the
long
term
right.
B
B
Okay,
so
all
the
questions
I
have
so
I
will
open
this
up
for
public
input.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
provide
comments
on
this.
B
Don't
see
a
hand
going
up
so
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
committee.
If
there's
any
comments,
mayor
Ramirez.
C
H
C
This
is
a
valuable
employee,
Recruitment
and
Retention
tool
and
I
appreciate
the
staff
recommendations
to
improve
it.
So
I'm
happy
to
move
the
staff
recommendation.
B
So
I
actually
have
a
concern
about
the
interest
only
I
am.
B
The
AFR
has
been
incredibly
low
like
around
one
percent,
two
percent
three
percent
for
several
years
now
granted
in
the
past,
it's
been
higher
but
gosh.
B
If
you
get
a
loan
and
your
interest
rate
is
like
one
and
a
half
percent
I
think
that's
an
incredible
benefit,
and
so
I
kind
of
have
concerns
about
saying
it's
interest
only
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
when
you
already
have
a
great
rate,
I
think
it's
been
a
long
time
since
a
traditional
mortgage
has
an
interest
rate
that
low
actually
I
can't
think
of
time
when
it's
been
that
low
foreign,
so
I
guess
I
have
concerns
about
making
it
interest
only
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
I
I
Now,
when
we
would
be
applying
this
to
the
potential
future
department,
heads
or
current
department
heads,
if
we
want
them
to
remain
in
Mountain
View,
where
we
all
know
it's,
a
very
High
I
would
say
could
be
a
barrier
to
entry
in
getting
any
sort
of
home
here
when
the
when
the
median
home
price
is
2.9
Million
dollars.
I
So
if
we're
trying
to
have
employees
come
to
Mountain
View
and
stay
in
Mountain
View
having
that
cushion
I
think
is
very
helpful
to
us,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
it
will
be
approved
or
used,
but
being
able
to
talk
about
that
and
Market
that
and
have
that
as
a
benefit.
And
you
are
right,
chair
matacek,
it
is
definitely
a
benefit
and
I
think
it's
one
that
helps
distinguish
Us
in
Mountain
View
from
other
places
in
order
to
keep
really
valuable
staff
here.
B
Thank
you,
yeah
I
guess,
I
feel
more
comfortable
if
it
was
a
shorter
period
of
time,
maybe
initially
like
five
years
instead
of
three
years
rather
than
the
two
tiers,
so
I'd
actually
propose
that
instead,
so
I
guess,
I
feel
comfortable
with
all
the
other
staff
recommendations,
but
can
I
do
a
substitute
motion
here
that
the
period
for
interest
only
is
just
a
standard
five
years
rather
than
the
three
years,
and
you
can
ask
for
four
years
mayor
Ramirez.
C
Thank
you,
I
I
wanted
to
give
the
finance
director
a
chance.
I
thought.
Did
you
raise
your
hand
Jesse?
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
as
well?
I'm.
G
Thanks
not
no,
not
not
a
problem.
Hey
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
you
know
Mountain
View.
If
you
look
in
the
bay
areas
and
one
of
the
higher
priced
homes
and
so
the
interest
rate
and
as
you
know,
interest
rates
have
been
actually
on
the
rise
significantly
over
this
past
year
and
which
is
already
making
it
difficult
to
get
into
a
home
and
so
having
the
AFR
does
counteract
that
somewhat
and
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
feasible
to
get
into
it.
G
D
I
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
comfortable
with
it,
as
proposed.
I,
understand,
I,
appreciate
the
discussion
of
risk,
but
I
feel
like
we
like
weighing
two
things.
We
have
a
healthy
budget,
but
it
but
I
think
recruiting
and
retaining
staff
is
the
thing
I
want
to
work
on
so
I
I
think
that
it
it's
it's
worth
it's
worth
the
money.
In
my
opinion,
thank.
A
Roll
over
okay-
here
we
go
Committee
Member
Hicks,
yes,
Committee
Member,
Ramirez,.
C
J
Good
afternoon
Jennifer
Logue,
a
City
attorney
for
the
city
of
Mountain
View
I
am
going
to
take
you
through
today.
A
few
suggested
amendments
to
council
policy,
a13
and
the
council
code
of
conduct.
J
These
Amendment
recommendations
come
from
council's
vote
to
have
the
cppc
or
this
committee
I'm
sorry
consider
some
amendments
related
to
parliamentary
procedure.
J
Some
amendments
related
to
council
attendance
at
at
hybrid
meetings,
in
addition
to
one
recommended
amendment
that
I
am
making
with
regard
to
a
change
in
state
law,
so
I
will
share
my
screen
now
and
walk
you
through
them.
J
Okay,
hopefully
you're
able
to
see
Council
policy
a13
on
the
screen
and
I
will
start
at
the
beginning
here
under
policy
section
1B
I
am
recommending
the
first
amendment
I
am
recommending
to
this
policy,
addresses
Council
attendance
at
hybrid
meetings
and
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
background
and
context
for
this
recommended
Amendment.
Currently
under
the
brown
act.
As
you
all
are
aware,
the
council
is
permitted
to
meet
completely
remotely
through
video
conference,
with
no
physical
meeting
location,
okay
and
prior
to
this
Amendment
to
the
brown
act.
J
If
any
council
member
was
going
to
attend
a
meeting
remotely
you
needed
to
post
notice
in
the
location
where
you
were
meeting
remotely
and
also
make
that
location
accessible
to
members
of
the
public,
but
right
now,
in
light
of
this
modifications
of
the
brown
act,
you
can
actually
meet
completely
remotely.
I
know
that
the
city
is
considering
having
hybrid
meetings
in
which
council
members
or
staff
could
some
could
be
in
person.
J
Some
could
be
meeting
remotely
and
members
of
the
public
could
always
still
participate
through
Zoom
or
or
some
other
video
conference
method
made
available
by
the
city.
It
was
the
interest
of
the
city
council
to
consider
amending
Council
policy
a13
in
order
to
require
in-person
attendance
of
all
Council
meetings
at
hybrid
meetings,
and
so
a
hybrid
meaning
for
clarification
would
not
be
the
video
conference
meeting
where
it
is
fully
remote.
J
It
would
require
the
adoption
of
the
ab361
resolution
which
we
currently
adopt
in
order
to
meet
by
video
conference,
but
the
but
the
hybrid
meeting
there
would
be
people
attending
in
person,
and
so
the
issue
came
up
of
whether
or
not
all
council
members
should
be
required
to
attend
in
person.
I
have
amended.
J
So
that
would
happen
in
the
context
of
assuming
there
was
a
surge
in
covid-19
and
you
wanted
to
go
back
to
full
video
meetings
or
if
you
are
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor,
and
let
me
explain
why
I
use
that
term
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor.
You
already
have
a
policy.
J
J
In
light
of
that
language
in
the
charter,
Council
had
already
adopted
what
constitutes
absent,
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor
and
I
did
not
modify
that,
and
so,
if
I
go
down
here
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor
has
always
meant
either.
City
council
has
consented
to
the
absence
in
order
for
the
council
member
to
attend
a
city,
official
city
of
business
or
attend
to
some
other
conference
or
regional
board.
Meeting
the
council
member
is
ill.
J
The
council
member
is
on
family
leave
for
birth
or
adoption
of
a
child.
The
council
member
is
on
bereavement
leave
or
the
meeting
was
not
on
the
council's
formally
adopted
annual
schedule
of
meetings,
meaning
it
was
a
new
special
meeting
at
which
you
already
had
a
conflict,
so
that
has
already
been
part
of
the
policy.
J
What
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor
means?
It
means
one
of
those
things,
and
so
all
I
did
was
adopt
that
into
the
requirement
for
attending
hybrid
meetings.
A
Oh
yeah,
we
were
actually
apologies
from
from
staff
that
we
were
actually
going
to
move
Jennifer's
item
up,
but
I
should
have
drawn
your
attention
to
that.
It
was
going
to
be
552,
which
is
actually
Heather's
item,
so
we're
taking
five
three
out
of
order.
Yeah.
B
So
I
said
we're
gonna,
do
five
two
and
I'm
like
well.
This
doesn't
sound
like
five,
two
okay,
so
any
questions
on
five.
Three
sorry.
B
C
C
The
same
question
I
wasn't
certain
if
we
were
supposed
to
be
looking
at
what
was
that
K2?
Thank
you,
Jennifer
for
the
the
recommended
changes.
I
did
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
hybrid
meetings
and
what
is
law?
Can
we
actually
compel
attendance
physical
participation
of
the
council
in
a
hybrid
meeting?
If
a
if
a
member
of
the
council
signed
in
virtually
and
they
wanted
to
participate,
could
we
actually
could
the
mayor
not
recognize
that
member
of
the
council
and
allow
that
member
to
speak.
J
Well,
the
charter
allows
you
to
compel
attendance,
so
you
can
compel
attendance
at
any
meeting
and-
and
it
is
within
the
body's
authority
to
adopt
these
procedures.
So
if,
if
if
this,
if
this
committee
voted
in
favor
of
this
amendment
and
you
and
you
moved
it
forward
to
council-
and
the
council
adopted
this
policy
with
this
amendment,
the
council
has
that
authority
to
compel
attendance
of
all
council
members,
so
so
that
is
within
the
authority
of
the
entire
Council
body.
J
However,
a
hybrid
meeting,
it's
an
anomaly,
it
is
not.
It
is
not
the
video
conference
meeting
right.
The
video
conference
meeting
is
a
special
meeting
that
is,
is
authorized
under
the
brown
act
right
now.
That
section
of
the
Brown
net
is
is
scheduled
to
Sunset
in
2024,
okay,
and
when
that
goes
away,
you
go
back
to
having
the
the
option
to
tell
a
conference
into
a
meeting.
But
again
you
have
to
post
where
you
are
and
make
your
location
available
to
the
public
right.
J
It's
it's
really,
it's
really
something
that
we're
coming
up
with.
So
you
have
the
authority
to
compel
attendance
in
person
you
don't
have
to.
You
can
allow
them
to
call
in
by
video
conference,
but
the
body
can
adopt
a
policy
that
says
you
all
need
to
be
in
person
and
that
Authority
is
provided
by
the
charter.
C
C
Is
it
ab361
I
always
forget
the
number
resolution
for
as
long
as
those
both
are
true,
we
really
can't
compel
physical
participation
of
the
council,
because
that
that
that's
the
the
state
presumably
is
overriding
the
charter
requirement
to
participate
in
person,
so
so,
outside
of
that,
though,
we
can
elect
to
allow
public
in
a
regular
meeting
right
so
outside
of
the
emergency
context.
C
B
B
So
I
I
don't
know
if
the
City
attorney
heard
everything
you
said,
but
I
didn't
I.
J
I
got
the
you
cut
out
a
little,
but
I
heard
you
and
I
think
I
understand
the
question.
So
let
me
provide
a
little
clarification.
The
brown
Act
is
not
overruling
the
charter.
The
the
brown
Act
is
providing
the
ability
for
Council
to
adopt
a
resolution
and
allow
the
council
to
meet
fully
remotely
okay,
but
you
do
not
have
to
so.
It
is
not
overruling
the
charter
at
all.
J
You
can
still
compel
attendance
that
is
still
authorized
under
the
charter,
even
if
you
adopt
the
ab361
resolution
right
and
and
oftentimes
and
a
lot
of
cities
are
adopting
them
now
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
right,
you
we're
it's
so
volatile,
you
never
know
when
you're
gonna
have
to
be
you
know
remote
or
in
person
things
go
up
and
down.
So
when
you
adopt
A3
ab361,
it
allows
you
to
meet
remotely,
but
it
doesn't
require
you
to
meet
remotely.
J
If
the
meeting
is
going
to
be
hybrid
or
called
for
an
in-person
meeting,
you
can
still
adopt
that
policy,
but
you
don't
have
to
I
mean
you
can
let
so
it
really
is
a
body
decision.
The
brown
act
just
gives
you
flexibility,
to
meet
fully
remote
right
or
to
meet
remotely
have
some
of
your
council
members
remote
without
posting
their
location
and
making
their
location
available
to
the
public.
That's
all
the
brown
act
does.
Is
it's
giving
you
some
flexibility?
What
how
you
decide
to
run
your
meetings
is
really
up
to
the
body.
C
Yeah
it
it
does.
Hopefully,
my
my
microphone
is
working
a
little
bit
better
now,
so
so
that
that
is
helpful.
I
think
the
the
concern
I
have
or
had
is
in
the
events.
A
member
of
the
council
elects
to
participate
virtually
in
a
hybrid
meeting.
I
wasn't
sure
if
there
was
a
legal
risk
in
denying
that
member
of
the
council
an
opportunity
to
participate.
It
sounds
like
you
know.
Even
in
a
hybrid
setting,
you
know
even
with
ab361,
we
could
you.
C
Mayor
the
council
could
deny
that
member
of
the
council
the
opportunity
to
participate
virtually
and
actually
compel
physical
attendance
and
that's
good
to
know.
The
other
question
I
have
is
related
to
the.
H
C
D
C
Mayor
and
you
know,
I've
been
on,
you
know,
I've
had
to
do
this
a
couple
of
times
now
and
you
know
I'm
I'm,
I,
I'm,
generally
fine
with
it,
but
I
think
different
mayors
will
have
sort
of
different
tests
that
they
will
apply
and
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
with
that
is
treating
similarly
situated
parties
differently
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
better
way
to
do
this
than
than
seeking
the
consent
of
of
the
mayor
where
we
might
have
a
more
objective
set
of
criteria
that
are
enforced
consistently.
Is
there?
J
So,
unfortunately,
the
consent
of
the
mayor
language
comes
from
your
Charter,
so
you
that
may
the
mayor
is
provided
that
discretion
by
Charter
and
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
that
part.
What
you
have
adopted,
what
you
the
body
has
tried
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
it
is
applied
equally
across
the
board
by
limiting
your
discretion
or
the
mayor's
discretion.
J
Whomever
that
may
be
at
any
given
time
and
and
by
doing
that,
they've
outlined
scenarios
under
which
consent
will
of
the
mayor
will
be
presumed
okay,
so
whether
you
said
no
or
not,
it's
it's
as
if
consent
of
the
mayor
is
presumed
under
these
circumstances.
So
if
a
council
member
calls
you
up
and
says
I'm
sick
I
won't
be
there
today,
it
doesn't
require
you
to
look
into
that
or
require
a
medical
note,
or
anything
like
that.
A
member
that
calls
in
sick
is
presumed
to
be
absent
with
your
consent
right,
a
member.
J
The
only
one
that
allow
that
requires
actually
brings
in
the
entire
body
is
the
first
one,
which
is
the
entire
Council
consents
to
an
absence
either
before
or
after
the
absence
in
relation
to
attending.
To
official
City
business
right
or
attending
some
regional
meeting
or
a
conference
and
I
think
that's
fairly
common
right.
Your
your
the
body
is
usually
aware.
When
a
council
member
is
going
to
go,
attend
some
conference,
you
know
out
of
state
or
out
of
town
or
something
like
that
and
can't
participate
and
again
birth
or
adoption.
J
You
know
it's,
it
doesn't
provide
a
lot
of
discretion.
There's
a
new
baby
or
an
adopted
child
and
and
they're
entitled
to
be
absent
from
the
meeting
same
thing
with
bereavement
leave
and
then
the
final
one
is
is
the
one
that
probably
provides
the
most
flexibility
but
again
doesn't
provide
the
mayor,
much
discretion,
which
is,
if
you
schedule
a
special
meeting,
one
that
was
not
contemplated
right
but
was
necessary
and
that
council
member
is
already
has
a
conflict
and
cannot
attend.
That
absence
is
considered
excused.
J
So
if
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
for
people
to
be
treated
differently
as
you've
defined
it,
you
could
add
to
this
list
of
reasons
that
constitute
consent
with
the
mayor.
I,
just
wasn't
asked
to
do
that,
and
so
I
didn't
do
it,
but
that
is
something
that
could
come
back
to
this
committee
to
consider
whether
or
not
you
would
want
to
add
other
reasons
or
other
bases
that
would
automatically
be
considered
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor.
J
C
Okay,
that
that
is
helpful
and
then
the
last
question
is
sort
of
The
Fringe
cases
where
someone
may
need
an
ability
to
participate
virtually,
but
it's
too
late
to
to
provide
the
the
notice
that
would
be
required
under
the
brown
act.
So
let's
say
somebody
gets
covered
or
the
flu
or
something,
and
they
have
you
know
the
the
mental
capability
to
participate,
but
it
would
be
prudent
for
them
to
participate
virtually,
so
they
don't
get.
C
The
rest
of
us
sick
is
that
is
that,
in
that
case,
with
with
the
mayor's
consent,
allow
them
to
participate
virtually
in
a
hybrid
setting
or
you
know.
Is
that
not
a
scenario
that's
really
contemplated
and
they
would
have
to
sit
it
out
or
come
to
the
meeting
and
participate
physically.
J
I
could
write
it
in
such
a
way
to
because
it's
not
an
absence
right
if
they
show
up
by
hybrid.
It's
actually
not
an
absence
and
right
now
the
consent
of
the
mayor
contemplates
a
full
absence.
I
could
add
language
that
covered
that.
That
would
allow
for
virtual
attendance
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor.
You
know,
and
this
and
they
have
these
same
things
apply
right,
so
maybe
birth
or
adoption
right
like
same
thing,
you
you.
Could
your
bereavement
leave
you're
out
of
town
for
a
funeral,
but
you
can
attend
for
whatever
reason
right.
J
You've
you've
decided
that
you,
you
want
to
participate
and
you
can
participate.
You
are
just
in
another
state
because
the
funeral
is
tomorrow
in
you
know,
New
York.
We
certainly
would
want
to
a
council
member
that
wanted
to
participate
and
not
be
fully
absent.
I
can
understand
where
you
would
want
to
allow
that
person
to
participate
remotely
and
I
could
write
that
in,
but
once
again
remember.
That
only
applies
during
the
time
that
this
section
of
the
brown
act
exists,
and
it
goes
away
once
if
it's
actually
sunsets
on
January
1
2024..
C
D
One
is
I
had
thought
that
and
tell
me
if
I'm,
using
the
wrong
legal
terms,
I
had
thought
that,
when
that,
given
our
experience
of
remote
and
hybrid
meetings,
that
when
this
is
the
part,
I
may
say
wrong,
when
the
exception
to
the
brown
act
or
whatever
the
one
that's
been,
allowing
us
to
meet
without
posting
signs
and
all
that
when
that
expires,
I
thought
there
were
some.
We
were
expecting.
Maybe
some
changes
so
that
so
that
the
posting
would
not
be
required
in
the
future.
J
I
think
there
there
are,
there
is
legislation
or
other
amendments
under
consideration,
but
I
have
not
heard
of
anything
final
I
said
well,
there
will
result
in
a
permanent
change,
not
yet
I
haven't
heard,
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
there.
It
is
under
consideration
and
I,
don't
know
if
Heather
is
on.
If,
if
she
is
more
aware
of
any
legislative
action
that
may
be
taken
to
make
it
permanent
Heather.
K
Do
you
yeah?
No,
not
at
this
time
there
have
been
some
bills
that
have
have
come
through
and
died,
but
nothing
nothing
seems
like
it's
gaining
a
lot
of
traction
in
this
particular
realm
right
now.
Oh.
D
Interesting
because
I'd
heard
some
time
ago
that
that
people
might
want
to
take
more
advantage
of
the
possibility
of
hybrid
meetings
and
change
that
so,
but
you
all
would
know
more
than
I
would
about
that
and
then
I
I'm,
not
so
I'm,
not
fully
clear
on
the
difference
between
pre-covered
and
what
you're
proposing.
Now
the
idea
that
the
mayor
can
legally
compel
a
counselor
member
to
come
to
a
meeting
what
what
would
have
happened
if,
in
the
first
year
I
was
elected?
D
If
I
had
said
Lisa
was
mayor,
I
had
said
you
know,
I'm
gonna
go
do
this
and
I
want
to
come
virtually
and
she
had
said
no.
She
would
have
been
able
to
compel
me
I'm
going
to
take
care
of
my
sick,
mom
and
I'll
come
virtually
from
her
house,
and
she
said.
No
then
would
I
be
I
would
have
to
come
back
and
attend
in
person.
Is
that
or
would
it
just
have
been,
that
I
would
have
been
doctors
and
pay.
J
So
so,
let's
let
me
provide
some
clarification
and
and
ask
for
your
example.
Let
me
ask
ask
some
other
clarification.
Are
you
saying
that?
Are
you
talking
about
prior
to
enactment
of
this
portion
of
the
brown
act
that
allows
everyone
to
meet
remotely?
Are
you
talking
about
pre-covered
the
pre-covered
situation,
because
it's
different
on
covid
pre-covered?
J
The
council
can
compel
attendance
of
council
members,
so
you
as
a
body
can
adopt
a
policy
that
says
you
need
to
participate
in
person
and
if
you
adopt
a
policy
that
says
that,
and
you
said,
I
want
to
participate,
virtually
I
don't
want
to
be
here.
Then
it
would
be
our
duty
to
impose
the
policy
to
say
that
you
don't
have
an
option
in
light
of
this
policy
to
participate
remotely.
J
But
again
we
should
you
know,
that's
why
we
write
an
exception.
We
write
in
exceptions.
So
what
mayor
Ramirez
just
brought
up
was,
you
know
an
in-between
right
now,
it's
not
written
where
you
know
if
you
are
able
to
participate,
but
you
need
to
do
it
remotely,
because
you're
caring
for
someone,
who's,
sick
or
you've
tested
positive
right,
and
it's
not
a
good
idea
for
you
to
be
near
other
people.
J
We
need
to
put
in
some
Middle
Line
there
so
that
you
can
participate,
but
it's
not
the
mayor
that
prevents
you
it's
the
policy
adopted
by
the
ball,
the
body
that
would
prevent
you.
It
would
just
we're
just
imposing
a
local
policy.
That's
been
adopted,
so
the
body
has
to
be
on
board
with
this.
It
is
not
that
the
mayor
has
power
to
exclude
a
council
member.
J
It's
just
that
the
charter
has
used
this
terminology
as
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor
and
and
that
and
it's
tied
to
whether
or
not
you
get
paid
when
you're
absent
from
a
council
meeting
right
and
so
all
I
did
was
adopt
the
same
process
you,
you
would
have
an
unexcused
absence
if
you
were
not
absent
with
the
consent
of
the
mayor.
You
have
an
excused
absence.
J
You
can
meet
by
you
can
join
by
video
conference
again,
if
you
you
know,
if
you're
on
bereavement
leave
but
still
want
to
participate,
you
could
participate
ver.
You
know
virtually
that's
why
I'm
saying
it
I
think
it
probably
makes
make
sense
to
put
something
put
an
in-between
in
there.
So
because
that's
not
an
absence,
that's
providing
criteria
under
which
you
could
participate.
Virtually
it's
an
exception
to
the
in-person
rule.
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
I,
just
that's
good,
to
hear
I
you
know,
would
actually
like
to
add.
Probably
a
number
of
them.
D
I
think
that
you
know
the
the
technology
using
allows
us
to
you
know:
I
would
like
staff
to
be
able
to
come
in
virtually
from
time
to
time
and
I
would
like
more
ways
for
Council
to
be
able
to
do
some
of
the
the
things
that
we
you
know
normally
do
the
ones
that
I'm
thinking
of
are
things
like
well,
Elder
Care,
also
when
Margaret
traveled
for
sports
with
her
teen
children,
just
General
job
requirements
doesn't
have
to
be
a
conference,
but
for
a
job
you
have
to
be
in
another
city.
J
D
We're
allowing
and
I
would
like
to
allow
staff
to
I
was
staff
once
and
I
had
small
children,
and
it
was
really
hard
for
me
to
get
back
to
evening
meetings
in
San,
Jose
and
I.
Think
staff
can
often
be
very
effective.
I
mean
I've
found
the
presentations
effective
if
they're
on
screen,
but
if
we're
giving
staff
that
leeway,
I
would
like
to
give
I
mean.
Council
people
honestly
are
not
paid
that
much.
So
I
would
like
to
give
us
some
of
that
flexibility
as
well.
That
I
would
like
to
offer
to
staff.
D
B
Okay,
so
what
I
think
we'll
do
is
we'll
just
have
the
City
attorney
continue
and
then,
if
we
pause
for
more
questions
but
after
we're
done,
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
public
comment
and
then
come
back
to
us.
J
Okay,
I
think
I
can
move
for
the
rest
of
these
fairly
quickly.
J
The
next
recommended
edit
is
to
Section
8
D
of
the
council
policy
a13,
and
this
is
just
a
minor
edit
that
I'm
recommending
to
be
consistent
with
par
General
standards
for
parliamentary
procedure,
all
motions
we've
all
the
council
has
already
always
required
all
motions
to
have
a
second,
but
what
I've
clarified
is
that
emotion
doesn't
require
a
second
if,
if
otherwise
stated
herein,
because
there
are
some
motions
under
both
Robert's
Rules
and
rosenberg's
rules
that
do
not
require
a
second,
so
I'm
just
clarifying
that
there
are
exceptions
to
that
rule
in
making
this
amendment
okay,
so
I
didn't
I,
didn't
want
our
hands
tied.
J
You
know
if
emotion
that
doesn't
require.
Second
is
made
okay,
now
I'm
moving
to
section
9
general
policies
regarding
meetings
and
procedures
and
I
have
several
recommended
amendments
here.
J
The
first
recommendation
that
is
different
than
the
way
the
council
currently
proceeds
is
a
recommendation
that
generally
there
shall
be
no
more
than
three
motions
pending
on
the
floor.
At
the
same
time,
this
is
adopted
from
rosenberg's
rules
and
and
if
I
could
just
back
up
a
little
bit,
I
will
say
that
the
the
Parliamentary
procedure
that
has
been
adopted
by
Council
through
this
policy
a13
is
a
little
bit
of
a
combination
of
both
rosenbergs
and
Robert's.
Rules.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
J
Rosensburg's
rules
recommends
not
having
more
than
three
emotions
pending
on
the
floor,
because
it
can
get
unwieldy
and
so
I
was
I
am
recommending
an
amendment
to
adopt
that
process
so
that
you
have
only
three
motions
pending
on
the
floor
with
one
exception,
which
is
not
in
rosenberg's
rules
and
I'm.
Putting
this
in
here
that
allows
the
presiding
officer
the
discretion
to
accept
a
fourth
motion.
J
This
would
allow
that
person
to
make
a
motion
for
a
recess
just
to
have
a
10
minute
time
out
for
everybody's
tempers,
to
cool
off
and
to
come
back
and
and
have
a
more
productive
conversation,
and
so
I
didn't
want
to
preclude
a
fourth
motion
of
that
nature.
So
I'm
recommending
no
more
than
three
motions
pending
on
the
floor,
with
that
exception
for
the
privileged
motion
as
a
fourth
and
then
I've
also
clarified
here
that
the
last
motion
made
shall
be.
J
The
first
motion
voted
on
that
is
consistent
with
the
procedure,
but
it
is
a
little
bit
more
confusing
the
way
it's
been
handled
in
the
past.
But
this
way
we
know
in
order.
You
know
whoever
made
the
first
motion
second
or
the
third.
The
third
motion
gets
handled.
First,
then,
you
go
to
the
second,
then
you
go
to
the
First,
with
the
exception
of
a
privileged
motion.
If
that
fourth
privileged
motion
comes
in,
which
is
a
motion
to
recess
that
can
be
taken
over
all
of
the
other
pending
motions.
J
Okay,
the
next
modifications-
these
are
just
simple
cleanup
edits,
but
the
next
major
modification
is
adding
section
subsection
9e
that
clearly
allows
for
friendly
amendments.
It
is
already
the
practice
of
council
to
offer
friendly
amendments.
We
did
not
have
a
procedure
that
allowed
for
them,
and
I
have
just
written
that
in
section
9f,
I've
added,
which
allows
for
substitute
motions
there
is
we
get
sometimes
a
a
mix
of
both
motions
to
amend
and
motions
to
substitute
motions.
Let
me
clarify
the
difference
and
I
think
it
helps
to
have
have
a
clarification
here.
J
A
motion
to
amend
leaves
the
same
motion
generally
in
place,
but
maybe
adds
to
it
or
deletes
from
it.
A
motion
to
substitute
completely
would
wipe
out
the
motion
pending
on
the
floor
and
changes
at
saying.
So
a
motion
to
substitute
would
be,
for
instance,
there's
a
motion
pending
to
adopt
staff
recommendation.
A
motion
to
substitute
would
be
to
deny
staff's
recommendation.
They
are
complete,
they're,
Polar
Opposites,
a
motion
to
amend
would
be
I'm
I
move
to
adopt
staff's
recommendation
with
the
following
modifications.
J
Okay,
moving
to
section
d,
10,
I'm,
sorry
of
council
policy,
a13
I've
just
done
some
clarific,
some
cleanup
here,
defining
what
each
motion
is
it
just.
It
just
helps
for
anyone
who's
guiding
parliamentary
procedure
to
understand
the
difference
between
privileged
motions,
incidental
motions
and
subsidiary
emotions
probably
doesn't
require
long
discussion.
It
literally
just
provides
clarification
on
what
each
motion
is
under
subsection,
C,
subsidiary
motions,
I've
added
in
six,
which
is
the
substitute
motion
and
clarify
that
it
requires
a
second
that
it
is
subject
to
debate.
J
J
The
next
substantive
amendment
is
in
section
11,
under
motions
for
reconsideration
of
council
policy.
A13
I
did
not
change
the
way.
Motions
for
reconsideration
are
handled,
I,
cleaned
up
the
language,
It
Was
Written
in
one
one
full
block
format
of
a
paragraph
and
I
split
it
into
subsections,
so
that
it
is
easier
to
read
and
understand
how
emotion
for
reconsideration
can
work.
Who
can
make
a
motion
for
reconsideration
the
timing
for
making
a
reconsideration
and
under
what
circumstances,
emotion
for
reconsideration
cannot
be
made.
J
J
The
next
significant
amendment
is
to
section
12,
which
is
decorum.
This
is
the
Amendments
that
I
am
recommending
making
in
light
of
a
change
in
state
law.
There
was
a
recent
adoption
of
legislation
that
allows
for
a
presiding
officer
to
remove
or
cause
the
removal
of
an
individual
for
disrupting
a
meeting
in
accordance
with
procedures
set
forth
in
the
California
government
code.
J
I've
just
adopted
that
and
put
it
into
your
policy
saying
that
the
presiding
officer,
may,
you
know,
may
take
steps
to
remove
an
individual
that
is
disruptive
consistent
with
state
law.
I've
also
cleaned
up
the
section
that
follows
that
which
allows
for
the
council
as
a
body
to
clear
a
room
and
continue
a
council
meeting
with
nobody
in
the
room
to
the
extent
that
a
group
or
groups
of
group
of
persons
was
creating
such
a
disruption
that
the
council
meeting
couldn't
proceed
and
you
cannot
fix
it
or
restore
order
by
simply
removing
one
person.
J
Okay,
the
next
major
amendment
is
in
we
are
in
section
18,
administrative
matters
under
B2
and
three.
This
was
to
provide
clarification
at
the
request
of
counsel
about
sharing
information
between
council
members.
J
B2
makes
it
clear
that
council
members
should
not
send
written
communication
on
matters
of
City
business
to
other
council
members
without
consulting
with
the
city
attorney
or
the
city
clerk,
because
those
run
a
high
risk
of
violating
the
brown
act,
so
it
just
it
just
encourages
you
to
consult
with
us
before.
You
know,
sitting
written
Communications
to
a
majority
of
the
of
other
council
members.
J
You
know
have
a
written
policy
so
that
you
can
share
this
information
and
what
I've
done
has
written
it
in
such
a
way
that
allows
for
this
to
be
accomplished
in
a
way
that
would
not
violate
the
brown
act
and
I've
made
it
clear
that
you,
you
send
the
documents
to
the
city
clerk
for
distribution
to
the
entire
Council.
J
But
you
should
not
modify
or
summarize
or
comment
on
that
information,
so
that
information
should
be
forwarded
to
the
city
clerk
as
you
got
it
without
comment,
and
then
it
can
be
distributed
to
the
entire
Council.
And
then
that
way
you
can.
The
the
entire
Council
can
have
that
information,
and
you
can
make
your
comments
on
it
under
under
the
appropriate
council
meeting
agenda
item
I.
J
And
the
last
amendments
are
just
it's
for
Section
again
we're
still
under
Section
18
administrative
matters.
We
are
now
under
Section,
subsection
c
3
and
C4.
I
am
recommending
amending
C3
to
make
it
clear
that
the
fallback
rule
for
this
body
will
be
rosenberg's
Rules
of
Order,
as
opposed
to
Robert's
Rules
of
Order.
J
So,
in
the
event
that
your
Council
policies
do
not
address
a
particular
matter
of
parliamentary
procedure,
we
will
turn
to
rosenberg's
Rules
of
Order
for
direction
as
opposed
to
Robert's
worth
because
they
are
just
simpler
and
easier
type
to
digest,
and
this
will
help
your
your
committees
and
commissions
that
do
not.
You
know
that
have
voluntary
members
that
are
not
as
as
familiar
with
rules
of
parliamentary
procedure,
because
Robert's
Rules
is
much
easier
to
read
and
under
I
mean
I'm.
J
Sorry
rosenberg's
rules
is
much
easier
to
read
and
understand
so
I'm
recommending
that
be
your
fallback
and
then
I've
just
cleaned
up
language
that
if
there's
a
conflict
between
the
provisions
of
this
policy
and
the
brown
act,
the
brown
act
shall
prevail.
J
Very
briefly,
I
will
move
to
the
council
code
of
conduct.
I
think
it's
this
one.
Yes,
the
I
am
only
making
a
recommendation
that
you
amend
one
section
and
that
is
to
keep
it
consistent
with
Council
policy
a13
and
again.
This
is
with
regard
to
decorum,
allowing
for
you
to
remove
an
individual
that
is
disruptive
and
also
clarify
how
the
accounts
Council
may
clear
the
room,
if
necessary,
to
proceed
with
an
orderly
meeting.
J
B
Thank
you.
So
are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee
I
see
and
there's
Amazon.
B
Okay,
so
I
just
had
mine,
are
pretty
minor.
I
actually
agreed
with
all
of
the
proposed
edits
and
didn't
have
any
changes
to
them.
But
you
know
a
little
knit
in
the
council
code
of
conduct,
the
library
board
was
changed
to
the
board
of
Library
trustees,
or
vice
versa.
Now,
I
can't
remember
and
I
feel
like
we're
inconsistent
on
the
use
of
that
term,
and
it
said
it
their
name
was
changed.
B
So
are
we
supposed
to
use
their
change
name
if
we
could
just
take
a
look
at
that
and
make
sure
we're
using
the
right
name?
That
would
be
great.
If
we
didn't
change
it
officially,
then
we
should,
if
we're
going
to
use
that
other
name,
and
there
were
also
a
lot
of
cleanup
items
in
fighting
item
5.2
as
well
as
5.3
on
the
same
documents
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
they
were
coordinated,
because
I
felt,
like
I,
saw
a
few
that
were
different.
So.
J
What
happened
is
the
city
clerk
handled
some
cleanup
items
on
Council
policy
a13
and
the
code
of
conduct
and
I
handled
some
substantive
amendments,
and
what
happened
is
that
our
our
changes
got
combined
into
one
document,
so
I
believe
Heather
will
go
through
her
sort
of
cleanup
items
under
her
item
and
so
I
apologize.
It
that's
why
I
was
skipping
over
some
of
the
red
line
because
it
wasn't
mine
and
that's
her
cleanup,
which
I
think
she'll
address.
Is
that
correct,
Heather.
K
Yeah
I
was
gonna
say
since
mine
was
listed.
First
I
was
gonna.
Make
sure
that
the
committee
knew
that
any
revisions
that
were
recommended
by
the
committee
would
be
Consolidated
together
in
any
overlap
or
changes
to
your
point
about
the
board
of
Library
trustees.
That's
how
they're
listed
in
the
charter.
So
we
were
just
changing
that
for
consistency,
so
that
it
aligns
with
the
charter.
B
K
Think
yeah
no
I
think
that
their
name
has
been
kind
of
tossed
around
in
different
different
versions.
K
No
formal
change,
but
I
think
you
know
some
people
have
referred
to
them
as
the
library
board.
For
short,
but
technically
the
charter
calls
them
the
board
of
Library
trustees.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
so
there's
no
other
questions,
we'll
open
it
up
for
public
comment.
B
I
do
not
see
a
hand
being
raised,
so
we
can
close
public
comments
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee.
If
there's
any
further
questions
or
comments
on
this
by
smear
Hicks,.
D
So
I'm
fine
with
everything,
except
that
I,
do
think
that
the
first
item
that
we
were
talking
about-
I
lost
the
number
of
it,
but
the
the
the
reasons
that
council
members
would
be
able
to
come
virtually
should
be
expanded
and
I
even
think
that
that
might
be
something
that
the
full
Council
would
want
to
discuss.
But
but
I
would
certainly
like
to
add
ones
like
job
requirement
team.
You
know
children's
care
elder
care.
You
know
some
of
those
things.
I
haven't
fully
fleshed
it
out,
but
I
I
would
support
it.
D
If
we
could
expand
the
list
of
reasons.
B
B
Sorry
I
spoke
over
you.
What
was
that.
C
Thank
you
so
similarly,
I
think
all
of
these
recommendations
are
are
very
strong
and
I'm
happy
to
support.
B
C
C
Like
this
February
of
last
year,
when
I
had
just
gotten
out
of
surgery
and
really
was
in
no
position
to
go
to
a
council
meeting
but
participated
nevertheless,
which
is
harder
to
do
if
I'm
compelled
to
do
so
in
person,
so.
H
C
Think
not
everyone's
going
to
go
through
surgery,
but
if
someone
has
the
flu,
if
someone
has
contagious
illness
I
do
think
it's
appropriate
if
there's
a
means
to
participate
virtually
in
a
hybrid
hybrid
setting,
I
think
you
know
we
should
allow
a
council
member
to
do
so,
but,
generally
speaking,
I
think
once
we
once
we
start
I'm
moving
to
something
closer
to
a
free
pandemic
normal.
C
You
know
there
was
the
expectation
that
everyone
participate
in
person
and
I
think
that
should
be
sort
of
a
standing
obligation,
excluding
some
as
as
the
vice
mayor
was
describing
some
defined
scenarios
where
it
would
be
appropriate
to
allow
a
virtual
virtual
participation,
the
only
minor
correction
I
guess.
Maybe
this
has
already
been
fixed.
Sorry
if
I
missed
it
on
page
90
of
the
PDF,
it's
section
f
of
council
policy,
a13
conflicting
out,
maybe
I
misreading
this.
C
It
says
after
a
member
by
the
council
and
then
the
member
shall
exit
the
council
meeting
and
I
was
wondering
if
that
should
be.
If
the
council
member
should
council
meeting,
but
that's
that's
what
I'm
reading
on
my
PDF
just
a
minor
typo
if
it's
already
fixed?
No
worries
everything
else
looks
good
to
me.
J
C
Sorry,
eight
f,
okay,.
J
J
B
I
feel
like
we
should
decide
on
what
we
would
want
to
recommend
to
council
and
then
obviously
it
would
be
discussed
at
the
council
meeting,
but
I
think
we
should
say
sort
of
a
strong
man
to
start
with
and
from
my
perspective,
I
think
The
Fringe
cases
where,
if
you
yourself
have
health
issues,
and
maybe
it's
not
that
you're
ill
but
in
case
I've
had
surgery,
but
you
feel
well
enough
to
participate
in
mating,
but
it
would
make
sense
for
you
to
not
be
in
the
council
chambers
I.
B
Think
that's
fine
to
participate
virtually
or
I
would
say.
If
you
are
caring
for
a
sick,
family
member
and
you're,
the
only
care
provider.
That
really
could
do
that
I.
Think
that's!
You
know
an
acceptable
reason.
B
Yeah
I
I
in
general,
feel,
like
you
know,
we
signed
up
for
this
role
and
we
ran
and
that
we
should
the
default
should
be
we're
here
in
person
and
that
there
would
be
a
few
exceptions
to
that
and
so
I'm
not
really
looking
to
have
a
large
laundry
list
of
options
for
when
you
can
participate
remotely.
D
D
I
mean
off
anyway,
so
that's
one
I
just
think
job
requirements
are
another
I,
don't
think
job
requirements
just
have
to
be
conferences,
and
you
know
like
if
you
have
to
be
in
another
state
or
another
city
for
for
a
job
and
yeah.
I.
Think
that
that
child
care,
as
well
as
Senior
Care,
was
that
was
that
on
your
list,
I'm.
H
D
B
Yes,
I'm
fine
with
the
child
care,
Elder,
Care,
I,
guess:
I
have
a
different
perspective
about
your
job.
I
think
you
should
be
here
there.
Any
thoughts.
C
So
I'm
I'm
not
prepared
to
I
think
Define
a
list
right
now.
I
think
I'm
I'm
in
general
agreement
with
some
of
the
scenarios
we're
describing
so.
E
C
Unless
I'm
mistaken,
the
city,
the
city
attorney,
did
say
we
could
continue
to
participate
remotely
you
could
by
public
conference.
You
just
have
to
disclose
your
location
under
the
brown
act
right.
So.
H
B
C
Like
you
know
is,
is
that
is
that
fair,
if
I
elect
to
participate,
you
know
outside
of
the
AV
361
Provisions,
you
know
I
can
do
so.
We've
had
council
members
call
in
in
the
past
from
you
know,
out
of
state
or
out
of
country.
C
C
To
actually
get
it
into
the
agenda
that
the
disclosed
locations-
or
you
know,
if
you're
at
your
you
know:
elderly
parents,
house
and
caretaking,
you
know
your
your
parents,
home.
C
J
J
So
we're
talking
about
this
kind
of
anomaly
that
that
jurisdictions
can
do,
which
is
the
hybrid
meeting,
and
you
know
you
can
you
can
have
people
in
person
and
remote
and
without
with
only
posting
the
one
location,
the
one
in
person
like
council
chambers
as
the
as
the
location
and
then
providing
a
zoom
link,
and
so
what
I
think
I'm
understanding
and
the
way
I
think
I
can
help
move.
This
forward
is
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
bring
to
counsel.
J
You
know
if
you
want
to
move
this
forward
to
council.
What
I
can
do
is
come
up
with
separate
draft
language
on
a
different
piece
of
paper.
That
would
that
would
show
what
we
would
add
in
right,
which
would
add
this
exception
this,
in
between
line
that
allows
for
council
members
to
participate,
participate
remotely
under
a
set
of
circumstances,
and
maybe
I,
don't
I,
don't
include
you
know,
I,
don't
make
an
exhaustive
list,
it's
it's
as
such
as
and
then
that
way.
J
When
this
entire
item
is
before
the
full
body,
you
can
debate
and
discuss
what
is
included
on
or
off
that
list
and
provide
me
direction
on
how
to
finalize
it.
So
it's
it's.
It's
going
forward.
I
think
the
way
you
could
make
the
motion
now,
if,
if
you
wanted
to,
is
make
the
motion
to
forward
as
written
to
counsel
for
consideration
with
the
addition
of
proposed
language
for
creating
a
categories
under
which
council
members
can
can
participate
virtually
under
certain
circumstances
and
I
would
bring
that
for
the
the
body's
consideration.
J
C
Consider
I
I
would
be
happy
to
move
that
and
that
would
give
staff
the
first
bite
at
the
Apple
and
you
can
come
to
council
with
some.
Some
of
these
I've
been
calling
them
Fringe
cases
I,
don't
know,
but
that's
the
terminology
we
want
to
use
but
I'm
very
comfortable
with
giving
staff
an
opportunity
to
to
come
up
with
that
list.
D
B
Okay
yeah
after
the
reading
the
policy
I
feel
like.
Perhaps
we
haven't
been
following
it.
B
Maybe
because
not
everybody
read
it
I
know:
I
haven't
read
every
single
policy
and
I
I
think
we've
been
doing
things
Without
Really,
realizing
that
we
weren't
necessarily
following
the
policy
so
I
think
it's
good
to
have
this
discussion
as
well
as
with
the
full
Council.
So
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
So
we
need
to
do
a
roll
call
vote.
C
D
B
You
so
you
know
these
topics
are
pretty
in
depth
that
some
of
them
that
are
on
the
agenda
and
I
am
looking
at
the
time
here
and
wondering
you
know,
I
kind
of
feel
like
five.
Two
is
another
big
topic,
so
I
don't
know
if
people
have
a
hard
stop
at
four
I,
don't
I
have
a
hard
stuff
at
six
for
the
airport.
Land
use
Commission
meeting,
but
you
know
I,
don't
know
about
staff.
B
A
If
the
committee
would
like
to
consider
taking
those
out
of
order
and
then
5.4
I
also
believe
Mary,
that's
a
little
bit
shorter
I
think
what
we
could
potentially
do
Heather,
if
that's
not
too
challenging
and
I'm.
Sorry,
since
we
moved
it
around
anyway,
we
could
just
put
a
pin
in
5.2
for
a
moment,
there's
no
issues
on
staff's
end
and
we
can
go
as
as
long
as
the
committee
is
comfortable
with
going.
B
Sorry,
you
said
so
I
think
five,
five
and.
B
But
I
think
five
five,
hopefully,
is
a
relatively
short
one.
Obviously,
five
six
would
be
apply.
Four,
not
sure
five
two
to
me
is
kind
of
a
major
one,
although
I
did
sort
of
summarize
it,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
information
there.
A
Don't
know
if
I'm,
so
so,
yes,
so
so
five
two
is
probably
the
most
substantive
that
we
still
have.
Five
four
would
be
manageable
to
probably
do
within
the
next
next
half
hour
and
then
the
item
from
John
for
the
downtown
committee
bylaws.
That
is
a
relatively
brief
item
and
then
item
five
six
was
an
update
associated
with
I'm.
Sorry,
I
misspoke
on
seven
I,
said
seven.
A
A
Great,
so
if
the
Committees
open
to
that
idea,
we
could
start
with
five
four
five,
five
and
five
six
and
then
hold
on
five
two
to
allow
you
to
have
some
potential
additional
time
for
a
deeper
discussion
on
that.
B
Would
we
be
able
to
have
another
meeting
this
calendar
year.
A
We'd
we'd
obviously
need
to
to
provide
that
item,
so
we
need
to
get
it
scheduled
and
scheduling
is
usually
the
challenge,
but
that
would
be.
The
report
is
already
ready
to
go,
so
we
just
need
to
find
a
time
frame
that
works
well
for
everyone.
Okay,.
B
So
actually
do
we
want
to
do
five,
five
first,
because
it's
John's
here
and
I
think
it's
the
shortest.
H
Happy
to
I
just
have
a
very
quick
slide
presentation,
because
I
think
it
conveys
what
we're
trying
to
do
so.
Just
give
me
a
second
here
so
good
afternoon,
members
of
the
committee
John
Lang
economic
Vitality
manager.
The
item
that
I
am
trying
to
bring
up
for
you
is
a
small
change
to
the
downtown
committee
bylaws.
H
The
downtown
committee
has
been
in
existence
for
about
24
years
and
over
that
time
little
changes
have
occurred
and
a
fairly
range
occurred
as
it
relates
to
an
organization
into
in
2020,
and
that
was
the
Central
Business
Association,
also
known
as
the
downtown
Business
Association.
Essentially
it
kind
of
folded
if
you
will
and
was
absorbed
into
the
Mountain
View
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
we
have
brought
forward
to
council
those
changes.
H
Council
did
approve
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
to
be
the
Authority
for
the
business
Improvement
or
business
Improvement
areas
last
year,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
actually
clean
up
the
bylaws
that
reflect
the
old,
downtown,
Business,
Association
and
chamber,
and
that
change
is
here
so
in
the
composition
of
the
downtown
committee.
H
There
are,
as
you
see
here,
four
groups
of
folks
and
what
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to.
Is
this
third
group.
So
in
the
third
group
there
are
four
positions:
two
of
the
four
reflect
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
downtown
Business
Association.
Now
this
is
when
they
were
two
technically
separate
organizations.
H
They
now
are
technically
one
organization.
There
is
a
Nuance
there,
but
they're
technically
one,
and
we
want
to
be
fairly
transparent
with
this,
so
the
downtown
Business
Association
does
have
an
Advisory
board
that
is
conducting
business
separately,
so
the
chamber
does
staff
the
DBA
and
they
do
operate
independently,
but
they're
all
within
the
chamber
umbrella.
So
we're
going
to
focus
on
three,
but
it's
going
to
impact
group
one
and
group
three.
So
this
is
what
it
is
today
and
what
we're
proposing
is
to
do
a
little
shift,
and
this
is
literally
shuffling
deck
chairs.
H
So
we're
proposing
to
out
of
group
three
move:
the
downtown
Business
Association
membership
up
into
the
top
Group,
which
is
the
property
owners
and
business
owners
of
downtown,
so
we're
looking
to
add
an
additional
seat
in
that
category.
So
that's
a
plus
one
and
then
the
third
category,
where
both
the
downtown
Business
Association
and
the
Chamber
existed,
we're
going
to
reduce
one.
So
the
chamber
will
remain
in
that
category.
So
what
does
that
effectively?
Look
like?
H
So
the
red
line,
that's
in
front
of
you
for
the
downtown
bylaws,
is
looking
to
increase
that
top
category
by
one
which
is
moving
the
downtown
Business
Association
into
that
category
and
effectively
removing
them
from
category
three.
So
there
Still
Remains
11
seats
with
clear
delineation
where
the
chamber
exists
and
then,
where
the
the
now
downtown
Business
Association
as
it
exists
today
in
22.,
we
are
seeking
your
approval,
so
we
can
move
forward
to
city
council.
That
is
the
end
of
my
report.
Happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
Okay,
we'll
open
it
up
for?
Oh
actually
I.
Actually,
you
answered
my
question
during
your
presentation,
so
we'll
open
up
to
public
comment.
If
there's
any
members
of
the
public
that
want
to
comment
on
this
and
I'm
not
seeing
any
hands
raised
so
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
mayor,
Ramirez.
B
D
J
H
A
B
Okay,
so
should
we
do
the
update,
because
that's
the
next
short
one,
oh.
A
It's
that
one's
quite
short,
so
that
would
be
fine
if
that's
okay
for
the
committee
staff,
just
providing
a
brief
update,
letting
you
know
that
there
are
three
additional
remaining
items
that
are
on
your
work
plan
for
this
year,
which
would
include
some
minor
modifications
that
still
need
to
be
made
to
council
policy
A-10,
which
is
the
authorization
of
City
contracts
and
agreements.
A
If
you
may
recall
approximately
two
years
ago,
there
were
a
number
of
refinements
made
to
that
and
some
minor
additional
items
are
requested
by
finance.
That
is
a
non-urgent
item,
but
we
would
be
having
that
scheduled
for
the
spring.
A
In
addition,
there
is
one
additional
update
or
possibly
more
than
one
additional
update
that
is
needed
to
the
council
policy
a15,
which
is
for
the
shoreline
ticket
process,
and
that
will
be
something
that
we
will
have
for
you
in
the
spring
and
and
then
lastly,
we
will
continue
to
provide
a
brief
overview
update
of
any
pending
items
at
each
meeting,
so
that
the
cpbc
is
aware
of
what
their
pending
items
are
and
then
I
will
flag
for
the
committee
here
that
there
were
a
number
of
items
that
were
raised
in
public
comment
earlier,
and
so
those
will
be
incorporated
into
the
minutes
and
if
there's
any
further
action
on
that,
we
would
need
that
direction
from
the
committee.
B
So
I
think
we
also
refer
to
the
cppc
sort
of
documenting
the
comments
under
item
eight.
B
A
A
Refining
and
defining
Council
comments
for
Section
Eight
on
the
council
agenda
setting
some
parameters.
If
you
will,
if
I'm
correct
on
that
chair,
yeah.
B
At
one
of
our
Council
Retreats,
we
we
talked
about
limiting
our
announcements
to
things
we
did
were
City
money,
money
was
expended
and
then
our
regional
boards,
because
we
can
talk
about
a
lot
of
different
things,
given
the
opportunity
and
we've
kind
of
gotten
away
from
that
practice
and
so
I
think
we
said
we
were
going
to
I
think
we
referred
that
to
the
cppc,
but
hey
that
just
Could
Have
Been
Me,
hoping
we
had
done
that
if
nobody
else
remembers
that
I'll
bring
it
up
at
a
council
meeting
so
that
we
could
do
the
referral
anybody.
A
A
C
I
I'm,
okay
with
that
I'm.
Just
out
of
curiosity,
that
feels
like
it
fits
pretty
nicely
in
a13,
which
already
has
other
council
meeting.
G
C
A
J
I
I
think
I
I
do
not
remember
hearing
that,
but
I've
only
been
at
one
Council
Retreat,
so
it's
possible
that
it
was
a
prior
one.
I
can
certainly
incorporate
it
into
my
substantive
edits.
I
just
I
need
some
clear.
There
is
something
about
Council
disclosures
or
comments
under
under
item
eight
and
I
just
need
to
know
what
is
it
that
you're
looking
for
more
so
I
can
I
can
modify
that
section.
B
Can
we
do
that
at
this
meeting?
I
don't
want
to
yeah,
okay,
so
the
what
we
had
agreed
to
at
The
Retreat-
and
this
was
not
the
most
recent
Retreat.
B
It
was
the
one
before
that,
because
actually
it
was
when
councilmember
Clark
brought
this
up
and
he
was
the
one
who
made
the
suggestion
that
we
limit
our
comments
to
reports
from
Regional
boards
to
which
we've
been
assigned
or
to
activities
we've
done
where
City
money
has
been
expended
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
disclose
if
we've
attended
something
that
City
money
has
been
expended
for.
B
That's
someplace
else,
because
I
feel
like
I've,
seen
that,
but
the
one
about
just
limiting
comments
to
those
two
things
that
isn't
I
think
specified
anywhere.
B
So
like,
if
you've
attended
a
conference
because
obviously
that
the
city
pays
for
that,
oh
I
just
froze
sorry.
J
And
if
it
was
referred
by
a
at
a
prior
meeting,
I
think
I
can
go
ahead
and
incorporate
that
in.
If
there's
no
objection,
I
can
just
incorporate
it
in
and
for
council's
consideration.
A
A
D
Other
words,
the
kinds
of
things
that
wouldn't
come
anymore
would
be
something
from
the
council,
Transportation
committee
or
somebody,
because
that's
not
a
regional
committee
or
or
something
happened
at
check
when
you
were
on
the
board.
Those
kinds
of
things
would
no
longer
come
to.
Council
is
what
you're
saying
well.
B
No,
if
you're
assigned
to
chat,
you
would
report
on
your
attendance
at
their
board
meeting.
But
what
you
wouldn't
report
on
is
you
know:
I
went
to
a
opening
of
a
business
or
something
like.
L
B
J
Okay,
so
the
only
concern
I
have.
Is
it's
going
to
be
hard
for
me
to
draft
this
language
without
knowing
exactly
what
the
parameters
are
that
I
don't
know
all
the
Committees
that
everybody's
on
and
which
ones
would
be
because
I
don't
know
that
it?
It's
not
Regional
boards,
it's
more
than
that
right.
I.
B
B
Or
it's
the
regional
boards
and
the
internal
Council
committees,
we've
been
appointed
each
other
okay,
yeah.
A
Thank
you
with
the
committee
like
to
have
that
incorporated
into
the
current
work
that
Jennifer
is
doing
related
to
item
5.3
or
have
that
item
come
back.
A
B
Okay,
so
we'll
open
up
item
5.6
for
public
comment.
If
there
is
any.
A
A
Of
bounced
around
a
lot
so
five,
five
four
Mary
is
15
minutes
workable.
On
your
end,
yeah
yeah,
to
be
okay,
I'll.
L
Do
my
best
to
keep
it
brief
for
the
sake
of
everyone's
time,
please
feel
free
to.
Let
me
know
if
there's
anything
that
you'd
like
me
to
expand
on
or
if
you
have
any
questions.
What
you
have
before
you
today
is
a
draft
policy
that
was
prepared
at
the
request
of
one
of
the
committee
members
to
formalize
our
policy
as
it
pertains
to
recognition
of
events,
individuals,
achievements
and
observance
months
throughout
the
city.
We
currently
have
our
practices,
but
we
do
not
have
a
formal
policy
as
it
pertains
to
proclamations
and
certificates
of
recognition.
L
So
the
draft
policy
that
you
have
identifies
some
terms
one
would
be
appropriate
to
recognize
types
of
events
and
issue
them.
It
also
sets
guidelines
for
the
lead
time
and
information
that
our
office
needs
to
prepare
these
in
a
timely
manner.
As
of
stated,
the
information
typically
just
kind
of
captures,
what
we've
already
been
doing,
you
do
have
some
discretion.
L
L
B
I
guess
I
was
wondering
when
we
do
proclamations
or
letters
or
certificates
of
recognition.
B
L
I
wouldn't
say
so:
typically,
the
ones
that
we've
seen
that
are
issued
on
a
regular
basis
are
the
ones
that
carry
over
year
to
year.
So
a
specific
awareness
month
or
Awareness
Week
for
items
that
we
have
recognized
on
an
annual
basis.
We
occasionally
do
receive
requests
from
specific
individuals
or
organizations,
and
the
mayor
always
has
the
discretion
to
decide
if
it's
something
that
is
relevant
to
the
city
into
the
area
worth
recognizing
by
the
city.
L
B
Okay
city
clerk,
laser.
K
Did
you
have
a
comment?
I
was
just
going
to
build
on
that.
Of
course,
you
know
this
is
gonna
vary
from
mayor
to
Mayor,
so
it'll
depend
on.
You
know
what
the
preference
of
the
mayor
is
and
how
much
is
brought
forward
by
the
mayor,
but
I
I
do
agree
that
a
lot
of
it
is
year
over
year
of
recognitions,
and
you
know,
certificates
for
Eagle,
Scouts
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
K
B
I
guess
that's
the
only
question
I
have
so
before
we
get
into
comments,
we'll
open
it
up
for
public
inputs.
There's
any
members
of
the
public
who
want
to
comment
on
this
item.
B
C
C
B
So
I
think
I
was
the
one
who
asked
if
we
could
have
a
policy
around
this
I
know
the
year
I
was
mayor.
We
had
some
requests
that
I
didn't
really
see
the
connection
to
Mountain,
View
and
I.
Think
we
did
very
few
proclamations
and
certificates
of
recommendation
of
recognition.
B
B
Of
course,
the
mayor
always
has
the
option
to
you
know
do
what
they
want
to
do,
but
you
know
I
felt
like
I
could
have
used
something
to
say.
Well,
this
doesn't
really
fit.
You
know
the
criteria
of
what
we
traditionally
do
and
I
felt
like
in
recent
years.
We've
done
a
lot
more
than
we
used
to
in
the
past
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
amount
of
time
that
it
takes
to
put
those
together
and
the
amount
of
time.
Then
we
dedicate
to
meetings
going
through
proclamations
and
presentations.
B
I
personally
would
like
to
have
fewer
of
those
so
that
we're
being
respectful
of
Staff
time
and
that
so
the
council
meetings
are
perhaps
a
little
bit
shorter,
so
actually
I
would
modify
the
you
know.
Well,
this
might
be
the
practice
we
had
more
recently
I'm,
not
sure
this
was
the
practice
we
had
before
that,
and
so
I
actually
would
like
to
kind
of
tighten
it
up
a
little
bit
so
that
perhaps
we
do
fewer
of
these
so
I'm
kind
of
wondering
what
my
colleagues
think
of
that.
D
L
B
Are
sure
I
can
do
that
so
on
proclamations,
I
would
change
the
second
one
b
to
call
public
attention
to
a
significant
Mountain,
View
Community
event
period
and
on
C
I
would
say
to
highlight
a
special
period
of
observance,
celebration
or
recognition
for
Mountain,
View
or
national
occasions,
they're
important
to
Mountain
View.
So,
basically
that
would
be
eliminating
Regional
and
State
foreign.
B
And
then
I
would
also
you
know
we
talked,
or
we
heard
a
little
bit
earlier-
that
we
could
potentially
limit
the
number
that
are
discussed
or
presented
at
a
council
meeting
and
I
would
add
under
one
at
the
very
end
that
a
general
guideline
is
one
to
two
presentations
per
council
meeting
and
the
same
thing
with
the
certificate
or
frequent
recognition.
That
a
general
guideline
is
one
to
two
at
a
council
meeting.
B
B
K
Sorry,
don't
worry
about
it.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
to
two
presentations
for
proclamations
or
certificates.
Is
that
combined
or
one
to
two
you
know
of
each
I.
B
C
A
H
C
Really
wanted
to
avoid
and
it's
challenging
when
there
are
often
temporal
components
to
the
proclamations
and
if
we're.
C
A
month,
then,
we
might
miss
out
on.
You
know
some
kind
of
week
of
significance,
so
I
I
do
think
just
as
a
guiding
principle
for
staff,
one
to
two
makes
sense
and
then
for
B
to
call
public
attention
to
the
significance.
You
know
Mountain
View
event
where
I
I,
like
keeping
the
word
for
including
the
term
Mountain
View,
to
make
sure
we're
focusing
on
things
that
do
have
significance
to
Mountain
View
I.
Don't
have
a
problem
with
including
service.
C
Just
in
the
event
that
there
is
something
that
we
want
to
elevate,
you
know
to
our
to
the
community's
awareness,
but
but
keeping
it
specific
to
that
interview
makes
sense
and
then
for
C
there
may
be
a
regional
or
state
occasion
that
is
worthy
of
consideration
and
I
guess
we
would
know
if
it
comes
to
our
attention
right
or
none
of
these
preclude
the
possibility
of.
C
Of
the
guidelines
so
I'm,
okay,
with
all
of
those
recommendations,
you
know
focusing
on
Mountain
View
and
then
just
you
know,
keeping
keeping
it
clear
that
the
the
mayor
could
decide
to
include
a
different.
You
know
recognition
or
Proclamation
if
it
if
the
mayors
of
time
feels
it's
appropriate
so
I'm
happy
to
add
those
into
the
motion.
L
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
call
out
that
preceding
the
bullet
for
item
one.
It
does
note
on
there
that
things
should
be
should
be
specific
to
Mountain
View.
So
you
know
that
goes
for
both
the
certificates
of
recognition
and
the
proclamation,
which
is
why
the
text
wasn't
dropped
down.
I'd
be
happy
to
include
it
in
there
as
well,
but
yeah.
L
We
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
line
with
the
council
priorities
that
it
does
relate
to
the
city
but
also
does
give
discretionary
Power,
as
as
mayor
Ramirez
mentioned,
that
there
may
be
events
that
they
would
like
to
recognize.
B
Okay,
yeah
I
think
it's
worth
repeating
down
below,
but
yes,
it
is
up
above
thanks
for
pointing
that
out.
Okay,
so
any
other
comments
or
anything
nope.
Okay,
so
I
will
call
vote
on
that.
One
Committee.
C
A
One
item
that
would
remain,
it
was
the
5.2
and
it
will
carry
over
to
the
next
meeting.
But.
B
Are
there
any
nope?
Okay,
then
I
guess
we
are
adjourned
at
3
59..
B
L
B
All
thank
you.
This
was
I,
think
a
good
discussion.
There
was
a
lot
to
it.
So
thanks
very
much
bye.
Now.