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A
Things,
thank
you,
everyone
in
the
audience
for
your
patience,
I'm
going
to
just
start
to
do
the
back
of
house
promotions
of
the
applicant
team
for
today's
item.
So
you
can
all
just
hang
tight
while
I
do
that
and
wait
also
for
the
rest
of
the
BRC
to
join
we'll
get
rolling
shortly.
A
Hey
Chris,
so
I'm
writing,
Carrie
and
James,
and
down
is
anyone
else
here
that
I
should
be
promoting
of
item.
A
C
We
have
James
stockham,
also
yep,
and
we
may
have
Melinda
from
bkf
as
well.
We
brought
the
full
compliment
right.
A
A
When
she
gets
here,
I
agree,
so,
let's
see
I
think
we
are
all
here,
then,
on
the
DRC
side,
and
so
with
that
I
just
will
welcome
everyone
to
the
development
review
committee
meeting
of
January
18th,
a
quick
Rule
of
Order
I'm,
just
gonna
read
the
required
agenda
language
regarding
the
fact
that,
during
this
declared
state
of
emergency,
this
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
California
government
code,
54953e
AS
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
A
You
can
contact
the
city
clerk
at
city.clerk
and
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution
which
allows
all
members
of
the
DRC
to
participate
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location,
also,
just
by
way
of
information,
this
will
be
the
particularly
for
any
folks
in
the
audience
who
are
regular
attendees
of
the
DRC
meetings.
A
This
will
be
our
last
virtual
DRC
meeting
with
Advisory
board
meetings
returning
to
in-person
status
in
February,
so
with
that
a
quick
roll
call
and
deputies
learning
administrator,
Rebecca
Shapiro
I
chair
the
DRC
I'm
joined
by
two
Consulting
Architects
Linda
poncini
and
Emily
Jones,
who
are
both
here
with
me
today
on
today's
agenda.
We
have
one
project
which
is
2400
to
2700,
Charleston
Road
and
we'll
kick
off
that
item
in
just
a
moment
just
for
everyone's
information
as
well.
A
We'll
handle
this
item
like
we
do
all
items
at
DRC
with
an
opportunity
for
the
applicant
team
to
do
a
brief
presentation
on
their
proposed
project
design.
Then
we'll
follow
that
with
an
opportunity
for
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
wish
to
ask
questions
or
provide
design
feedback
to
do
so
during
a
public
comment
period,
and
then
we
will
bring
it
back
to
the
DRC
for
for
discussions
and
recommendations.
A
So
with
that,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
the
applicant
team
or
this
project,
which
is
a
proposal
to
construct
site
and
building
improvements
associated
with
a
conversion
of
free,
existing
Warehouse
retail
spaces
to
office
r
d
use
in
an
existing
multi-tenant
Center.
So
take
it
away.
Thank.
D
You
okay,
I'll,
go
first,
my
name
is
Katrina
I'm
with
Presidio
Bay
Ventures
I'm,
the
owner's
representative
I'm,
the
design
and
construction
manager
for
Charleston
Plaza.
The
proposed
project
I'll
be
overseeing
the
project
on
the
design
and
construction.
Through
completion
of
the
project.
D
We
will
have
also
medicine
Monopoly
joining
us
in
a
few
moments:
she's
our
development
manager,
she
oversees
kind
of
the
entitlement
and
financial
aspects
of
the
project.
A
little
bit
about
PVB.
We
are
a
commercial
real
estate
investment
firm,
focused
on
the
Bay
Area.
We
specialize
in
commercial
and
residential
kind
of
mixed
use
projects
in
the
Bay
Area.
You
know
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
life
science,
residential
and
then,
like
we
said
mixed
use
with
some
retail
components
in
our
portfolio.
D
We
also
have
about
five
lab
buildings
currently
under
us.
That.
D
And
building
so
we've
got
quite
a
bit
of
expertise
in
the
design
and
construction
of
these
types
of
facilities.
We're
very
excited
to
breathe
some
new
life
into
this
project
at
this
retail
Center.
It's
kind
of
a
nice
adaptive
for
use,
excuse
approach
that
we're
taking
to
this
project
with
that.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
our
architect
otj,
because
we
have
Chris
and
guy
on
the
line,
and
we
also
have
the
gazardo
partnership
on.
B
B
We
certainly
consider
this
to
be
a
conversation
and
discussion.
So
please,
let
us
know
if
you
have
any
questions
along
the
way
or
any
feedback,
we're
more
than
happy
to
kind
of
pause
and
talk
things
over
as
we
go.
B
B
We're
then
going
to
move
into
the
architectural
development,
the
site
strategy,
the
materiality
and
the
elevation
design,
and
also
some
of
the
coordination
that
we
went
through
with
the
planning
department
and
then
we're
going
to
transition
into
landscape
development
with
the
site
concept,
the
linear,
Park,
Place,
making
and
The
Pedestrian
circulation
design,
so
the
first
getting
off
into
the
existing
context.
You
can
see
that
our
site
is
toned
here
in
red,
we're
at
a
really
interesting
location,
kind
of
a
pivot
point
between
a
number
of
different
zones.
B
So
we
have
existing
Tech
campuses
to
the
north,
toned
and
blue.
We
have
residential
toned
in
yellow
to
the
west
and
then
we're
surrounded
by
light
industrial
and
Retail
around
the
site.
You
can
see
that
we're
bounded
on
the
North
by
the
101
and
then
on
the
south
by
Charleston
Road,
and
then
you
can
see
this
black
line,
we're
actually
right
on
the
border
of
Mountain
View
in
Palo
Alto.
So
there
is
a
very
small
portion
parking
only
of
our
site,
which
is
straddling
that
line
and
actually
part
of
Palo
Alto.
B
So
this
is
zooming
in
a
little
bit
more
into
our
site.
In
particular,
the
total
Site
Area
is
just
about
10
acres.
It's
comprised
of
three
buildings
currently
on
the
site.
We
have
the
three
buildings
which
we're
going
to
be
considering
M1,
M2
and
M3.
As
we
move
through
the
presentation,
their
existing
big
box
stores.
They
are
currently
vacant,
they're
108,
000
square
feet.
Then
we
have
what
we're
calling
M4,
which
is
existing
PetSmart.
B
This
building
is
occupied,
it
has
a
tenant
and
is
currently
active,
27
500
square
feet,
and
then
we
also
have
retail
down
here
along
Charleston,
which
has
active,
tenants,
9750
square
feet.
You
can
see
that
surrounding.
We
have
actually
a
Costco
just
to
the
south
of
us
again
that
101
is
bounding.
Us
there's
really
high
visibility
on
the
101
from
Charleston
Road.
It's
an
interesting
scenario
in
that
we're
set
back
about
500
feet
from
Charleston,
so
not
typical.
B
B
You
can
see
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
exaggerated
articulation
here,
very
typical
of
retail
typology.
This
is
a
from
Charleston
and
then
on
the
bottom.
This
is
the
highly
visible
North
facade
from
the
101..
Again,
you
can
see
you
know
articulation.
That's
really
meant
to
break
apart.
The
volumes
expressed
in
that
way
painted
different
colors,
so
in
in
all
of
that
adaptive
reuse
project
is
actually
perfect
for
us.
These
large
format
buildings
they
offer
large
floor
plates
for
life
science
use.
B
They
have
high
ceilings
for
a
variety
of
tenants
that
need
that
height,
there's
space
for
MEP
infrastructure
and
then
also
very
clearly
there's
an
abundance
of
parking
which
is
great
for
us
and
actually
perfect
in
that
we
can
reduce
some
of
that
parking
and
give
it
back
to
the
project
in
the
form
of
of
amenity
space
and
connective
areas
that
form
a
campus
between
the
life
science
uses
and
and
the
existing
retail
uses.
B
Zooming
in
a
little
bit
more
just
on
some
of
the
different
conditions,
this
is
along
Charleston.
This
is
actually
the
entry
into
the
project.
Currently
the
intersection
of
Charleston
Independence.
You
can
see
that
the
project
is
there
in
the
background,
but
there
is
a
substantial
buffer
of
landscape
and
parking
area,
and
there
is
a
little
bit
of
retail.
B
That's
fronting
that
Charleston
Road
in
the
back
again
highly
visible,
the
existing
condition,
vacant,
Big,
Box,
store
use
and
then
some
of
the
in
between
around
the
building,
so
we're
30
feet
or
so
from
the
property
line.
There
is
area
for
emergency
circulation
and
other
kind
of
back
of
house
functions,
but
you
can
see
some
of
the
typical
typical
conditions
that
we
face,
with
articulated
stucco
boxes
painted
foreign.
B
Like
we
said
it's,
it's
light
industrial
and
Retail
uses.
We
have
a
Costco
across
the
street
also
across
the
street.
Our
retail
uses,
like
Michael's
and
other
small
retail
outlets,
there's
also
a
mix
of
one
and
two-story
light
Industrial
and
Commercial
buildings,
so
it
fits
our
building
fits
rather
nicely
in
terms
of
the
scale
and
the
height
with
these
one
to
two
story:
buildings
that
are
surrounding
us
and
we'll
get
a
little
bit
into
the
architectural
development
of
the
project
itself.
B
So
this
is
the
site
plan.
I.
Think
the
most
important
thing
for
us
when
we're
looking
at
this
project
and
plan
is
to
create
a
true
mixed
use,
project,
one
that
reimagines
the
commercial
into
life
science,
but
also
retains
that
existing
retail.
B
That's
there
currently
with
M4
and
R1,
and
creates
a
project
that
encompasses
all
of
the
uses
and
doing
that,
like
I
had
mentioned
earlier,
we're
able
to
reduce
a
little
bit
of
the
parking
and
create
these
areas
of
connectivity
so
we're
creating
we're
calling
the
Central
Park,
which
is
out
front
of
the
m2m2
M2
M3
buildings,
which
is
a
collaborative
and
Gathering
space
that
can
be
used
by
tenants,
as
well
as
visitors
for
M4
and
R1,
there's
also
very
generous
landscape
areas
that
are
leading
to
the
buildings
and
then
also
areas
that
serve
as
a
bit
of
a
an
entryway
or
a
Gateway
into
the
project,
with
seating
and
opportunities
for
for
people
to
to
gather
and
to
to
use
basically
the
whole
project
itself
you're,
seeing
some
of
the
circulation
diagrams
here.
B
So
we
are
encouraging
a
new
pedestrian
and
bike
paths
into
the
project.
So
the
Green
Arrow
is
bike.
So
you
can
come
straight
into
the
project,
though
there's
ample
area
to
park
outside,
but
each
building
also
contains
bike
rooms
inside
to
encourage
that
parking
that
bike
parking,
we
have
the
pink
which
is
vehicular
parking,
and
so
basically
that
circulation
comes
in
and
then
we
immediately
want
that
vehicular
circulation
to
move
into
the
parking
areas
and
free
up
that
area
down
the
central
spine
and
then
also
encouraging
pedestrians
to
walk
in.
B
B
One
of
the
most
important
parts
of
this
project
is
is
the
Adaptive
reuse
or
the
sustainable
story,
so
literally,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
we're
stripping
it
down
to
to
the
essential
structure,
so
the
existing
buildings
take
a
CMU
structure
and
then
add
a
bunch
of
furring
on
top
of
it,
we're
basically
taking
it
down
to
that
structure
and
one
of
the
big
things
you'll
notice
are
all
of
the
windows
so
of
course,
punching
new
openings,
which
allow
light
for
the
new
lab
function
inside,
but
also
creates
an
approachability.
B
B
What's
really
important
is
that
by
retaining
all
of
the
existing
walls
or
most
of
the
walls,
we're
really
reducing
the
amount
of
carbon
or
offside,
offsetting
the
carbon
emissions
that
are
associated
with
demo
and
taking
demo
waste
to
storage
and
so
forth,
so
really
trying
to
embrace
that
adaptive
reuse
retain
as
much
of
the
existing
structure
as
possible
and
then
using
that
as
as
a
story
to
further
the
project.
So
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
a
strategy
of
adding
Windows,
adding
light
and
also
embracing
the
innate
horizontality
of
the
building.
B
So,
instead
of
trying
to
go
higher
and
incorporating
pieces
of
articulation
that
are
are
more
or
less
double
story.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
cutting
the
building
horizontally
and
allowing
for
articulation
at
that
pedestrian
level,
so
at
The,
Pedestrian
scale,
there's
articulation
and
then
above
that
we're
incorporating
a
facade
of
various
textures
scales
and
colors
in
order
to
add
identity
and
interest.
So
you
can
see
here
we're
wanting
to
use
a
color
that
has
a
little
bit
of
warmth
a
little
bit
of
approachableness
instead
of
a
more
cool
or
gray
color.
B
We're
going
with
this.
This
kind
of
rusty
brown
color,
which
we
think
will
fit
well
with
the
existing
context
and
also
just
lead
to
a
more
rich
and
kind
of
vibrant,
take
on
the
buildings
themselves.
We're
really
utilizing
light
and
Shadow
to
the
fullest
degree.
And
then
you
can
see
that
we
have
landscape
elements
that
fit
really
well
with
the
building.
B
Of
course
we're
going
to
retain
some
of
the
stucco,
but
we
will
be
painting
and
enhancing
the
color
of
that
we're
going
to
be
using
a
wood
or
some
kind
of
composite
wood
siding
on
some
of
the
elements
of
the
buildings,
especially
at
the
entry
portals,
so
that
at
that
pedestrian
level,
you
have
a
really
tactile,
a
very
real
material.
That's
approachable
and
soft
in
that
just
creates
a
more
of
a
connection
with
that
natural
Central
Park
area
out
front.
B
This
is
a
project
that
we're
kind
of
using
this
coloring
for
for
this
project,
so
you
can
see
that
it
actually
changes
color
quite
a
bit
in
different
daylighting
conditions.
So
in
Shadow
it
has
a
little
bit
more
of
a
muted,
rust
or
brown
tone
and
then
in
direct
sunlight.
It
has
this
very
vibrant
kind
of
core
10
Rusty
appearance.
So
we
think
that
contrast
is
going
to
be
really
nice,
especially
facing
south
and
how
the
the
sun
moves
across
the
project
to
have
that
varying
degree
of
sun
light
and
Shadow.
B
Here
are
some
examples
of
the
materials
that
we're
going
to
be
using.
We
have
different
scales
of
metal
panel.
These
again
are
arrayed
along
horizontally,
and
so
we
have
that
change
of
texture
as
we
as
we
move
to
the
next
datum
line,
but
we're
still
utilizing
the
same
material,
just
a
different
scale
of
that
material,
M2
utilizes
a
slightly
different
metal
panel.
So
this
uses
an
ACM
panel
which
is
more
smooth.
B
It
has
kind
of
a
standing,
seam
effect,
so
a
different
scale,
slightly
different
appearance,
and
we
think
it
will
give
M2
its
own
unique
identity,
we're
also
utilizing
corrugated
metal.
This
will
be
up
at
the
mechanical
screens
and
then
we're
also
using
potentially
perforated
metal
fins
that
help
to
diffuse
the
light
coming
into
the
building.
B
I
wanted
to
bring
up
just
a
quick
example
of
some
of
the
collaboration
that
we
had
with
with
planning,
as
we
were
moving
through
this.
So
you
know
we
got
some
feedback
overall,
very
positive
feedback
about
the
southern
facade
of
the
project,
and
we
got
comments
about
how
maybe
M2
wanted
to
have
its
own
unique
identity.
B
Apart
from
M1,
we
thought
this
was
an
excellent
comment
and
that
we
thought
was,
you
know
very
worthwhile
to
to
tackle
and
see
if
we
could
bring
something
that
added
to
the
project
that
added
that
unique
identity
to
to
M2
these
buildings
are
all
you
know
stuck
together
and
so
I
think
you
know
creating
that
slight
difference,
even
though
we're
utilizing
the
same
materials
but
at
a
different
scale,
is
really
important
to
give
a
little
bit
of
variety
and
identity
to
the
building.
B
So
we
gave
a
few
different
options
and
ultimately
one
was
chosen
that
added
a
little
bit
more
glazing
to
the
the
upper
datum
level
of
M2,
and
we
use
that
to
kind
of
progress
into
an
idea
of
utilizing
small
mullion
based
fins
and
then
a
little
bit
of
fritting.
To
add
texture
still
allow
all
that
light
to
come
in
from
the
South,
but
to
add
interest
through
different
treatments
on
the
glass
and
mullions.
B
So
this
is
the
southern
facade
of
of
the
project
below
you
can
see.
Existing
above
is
the
proposed
facade.
Really.
What
we
tried
to
do
is
keep
all
of
the
entries
all
of
the
openings.
In
the
exact
same
places,
you
can
tell
from
the
existing
condition
that
really
the
only
openings
are
for
the
entries
again,
big
box
stores
no
need
for
natural
light,
a
little
bit
of
skylighting
on
the
roof,
but
really
these
are
the
elements
that
you
have
to
emit
light.
B
So
you
can
see
again
breaking
apart
the
building
horizontally.
We
have
that
concrete
Wades
coating
at
the
base
metal
panel
at
that
second
datum
level
up
and
then
at
the
parapet,
switching
to
a
finer
scale,
metal
panel
that
way
we're
introducing
interest
at
each
level
and
breaking
it
apart,
rather
than
using
like
a
volume
effect,
rather
we're
using
material
and
different
combinations
to
bring
interest
and
depth
to
the
project.
B
Here's
a
rendering
from
of
the
project
from
Charleston,
so
you
can
see
again
we're
set
pretty
far
back.
We
have
a
nice
landscape
buffer
between
the
project
and
the
road,
but
you
can
see
it
back
here
very
low
profile.
The
mechanical
roofs
are
are
just
visible
at
this
point.
As
you
get
closer
to
the
building,
the
mechanical
screens
actually
go
away,
we've
placed
them
very
Central
to
the
buildings,
so
that
visibility
is,
is
very
minimally
impacted
and
that
they
they
basically
are
only
visible
when
you're
this
far
away
from
the
building.
B
As
you
enter
the
project,
this
is
M3
on
the
corner,
which
is
the
former
REI
building
we're
really
using
this
as
the
showpiece,
the
identity
of
the
project.
These
openings
are
all
existing,
so
we're
just
utilizing
the
existing
openings
framing
out
a
new
entry
portal
that
emphasizes
that
entry,
creating
a
canopy
to
assist
just
with
identification
of
the
entry,
and
then
you
can
see
again
utilizing
those
different
scales
of
metal
panel
in
this
case,
bringing
all
the
way
to
the
ground.
B
This
is
from
the
other
side.
M3
is
in
the
background
here.
M1
is
in
the
foreground.
You
can
see
again
the
long
ribbon
Windows
allowing
light
in
M1
has
a
mezzanine
level.
So
all
of
this
mezzanine
is
very
accessible
to
people
working
inside
again.
Getting
that
light
and
Views
out
to
the
Central
Park
in
front.
You
can
see
the
shading
canopies
and
the
wood
portals
at
the
entries.
B
You
can
see
that
there
is
a
difference
between
M1
and
M2
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
panel.
M2
is
again
utilizing
the
same
kit
of
parts
in
terms
of
the
windows
lip
frames,
entry
portal,
but
now
we
have
a
different
scale
of
of
metal
panel
and
it's
also
again
coming
to
the
ground,
which
is
a
little
bit
different
than
M1.
B
Foreign
and
then
zooming
in
a
little
bit
more
now
we're
looking
really
at
the
place
making
of
the
landscape.
So
we
have
the
the
hard
lines
of
the
architecture.
We
have
the
Rolling
mounding
Hills
of
the
landscape,
and
you
have
the
shading
devices
in
between
that
allow
for
open
collaboration
activity
linking
this
portion
to
the
retail
and
really
inviting
people
to
use
this
space
and
make
it
an
active
place.
B
We
have
a
couple
of
other
elevations
around
the
building.
This
is
the
west
elevation,
so
it's
not
super
visible
from
the
part.
The
parking
lot
it's
around
the
corner,
but
we
still
wanted
to
wrap
the
main
facade
around
to
make
sure
that
we're
completing
the
idea
and
then
we're
utilizing
some
steps
and
raises
of
the
parapet
in
order
to
Define
different
volumes
and
break
up
that
long
kind
of
ubiquitous
volume,
but
also
adding
lots
of
windows.
So
this
is
all
at
ground
level.
At
the
second
level.
B
This
is
the
north
elevation,
so
this
is
the
elevation:
that's
adjacent
to
101.,
we're
adding
windows
again
similar
to
the
other
facades
in
order
to
allow
for
for
air,
not
air,
but
light
to
come
in
from
from
the
north.
B
You
can
also
see
that
instead
of
some
of
these,
these
volumes
that
are
existing
we've,
stripped
it
back
but
utilized
the
existing
bump
outs,
but
brought
some
of
that
metal
metal
panel
from
the
south
facade
onto
the
north
again,
there's
that
continuity
of
facades,
but
also
this
kind
of
serves
as
wayfinding
identif
identification,
that
this
is
something
special
from
the
101
that
there's
something
unique
happening
here,
and
this
is
I
think
this.
This
color
and
this
metal
panel
will
serve
as
identity
for
the
building
itself,
here's
a
rendering
from
the
101.
B
So
again
you
can
see
some
of
the
windows
that
we're
adding.
We
are
going
to
be
painting
and
upgrading
the
stucco
finish
to
the
to
the
north
facade,
there's
already
an
existing
landscape
buffer,
that's
quite
Lush,
so
the
building
will
actually
be
poking
up
above
the
landscape
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
these
three
volumes
that
represent
M1
M2
M3.
B
Then
this
is
the
East
facade
of
the
building.
This
is
directly
adjacent
to
M4
the
PetSmart,
so
we
are
again
wrapping
that
metal
panel
around
the
corner.
You'll
see
in
the
next
slide
that
we're
utilizing
this
panel
in
M4
as
well
to
have
that
connection
between
New
Life
Science
and
existing
retail,
and
really
form
kind
of
a
cohesive
idea
for
the
campus.
B
So
here
is
M4
PetSmart
PetSmart
is
is
active.
There
is
a
tenant
they
will
be
in
the
building
while
we're
working
on
M1,
M2
and
M3.
So
we
wanted
to
be
delicate
in
how
much
we
affect
their
facade,
but
at
the
same
time
wanting
to
make
sure
that
again
this
is
a
campus.
This
is
a
collective.
This
is
a
whole
we're
not
splitting
it
between
lab
and
Retail
sides.
We're
wanting
this
to
be
a
cohesive
site
in
property.
B
So
you
can
see
that
we
have
the
metal
panel,
that's
Reaching,
Across
onto
the
PetSmart.
We
are
upgrading
and
painting
all
the
stucco
finishes,
but
we're
we're
taking
that
existing
canopy
lightening
out
up
so
that
it's
much
more
in
line
with
what's
happening
across
at
the
other
three
buildings
and
then
incorporating
that
that
wood
texture
as
well.
So
that
way
you
have
more
of
a
connection
they're
they're,
more
like
siblings,
rather
than
distant
cousins.
B
At
this
point,
and
then
here's
a
rendering
you
can
see
that
entry
canopies
you
enter
through,
and
then
you
have
that
connection
between
life,
science
and
Retail
and
again
we
have
enhanced
all
the
pavement
so
that
there
is
that
connection
and
free
flow
across
again.
We
really
see
this
as
a
true
mixed
use
project,
so
this
is
a
pet
store,
but
that
R1,
that's
closer
to
Charleston,
is
retail
in
the
sense
that
it
has
restaurants
and
other
services.
B
A
It
thank
you.
Chris
I
apologize
I'm,
just
going
to
ask
in
that
in
the
interest
of
time,
because
the
the
presentation
has
been
a
little
bit
on
the
longer
side.
If,
if
you
could
keep
it
a
little
bit
more
more
brief,
so
we
can
get
the
public
commenting
discussion.
That
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
F
Yep
sure
I'll
I'll
I'll
summarize
as
best
as
I,
can
looking
at
the
plan
as
a
whole
adaptive
views
from
a
site
in
campus
creation
standpoint.
It
was
inherently
a
sustainable
approach,
so
we're
going
to
take
advantage
of
existing
trees.
Where
we
can.
We
worked
with
the
city
forestry
to
save
most
of
the
trees.
F
There
will
be
no
existing
Heritage
trees
removed,
approximately
50
new
trees
planted
a
majority
of
them
being
California
natives
for
much
needed
shade,
so
I
think
Chris
touched
a
lot
on
the
Central
Park
and
and
some
of
the
way
finding
elements
that
are
weeds
throughout
the
site.
This
is
good
at
the
character
images
Chris
Buzz
through
this.
F
F
And
then
we'll
certainly
plan
to
Showcase
California
natives
with
mosaics
of
grasses
and
shrubs
for
Habitat,
texture
and
color.
All
right
go
ahead
again,
the
Central
Park.
F
F
This
touches
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
workshops
that
we
did
with
DRC
and
developing
this
area.
We
think
it's
nicely
amenitized.
Now
it
has
similar
tensile
structures
that
that
are
bolstered
with
a
little
more
formality
and
it
has
a
California
Native
growth
and
some
art
moments
go
ahead
and
the
last
the
we
did
a
workshop
on
pedestrian
circulation.
F
A
Made
up
for
my
approach,
no
no
worries,
but
with
that
I
will
turn
to
our
short
about
my
day.
Attendee
list
right
now,
I
see
one
hand
raised
already,
but
for
anyone
else
in
the
audience,
who's
participating
and
is
interested.
In
speaking,
please
raise
your
hand
Now
using
the
raised
hand,
functional
Zoom,
I,
don't
believe
anyone's
participating
by
phone.
But
if
you
are,
you
can
use
star
9
to
raise
your
hand
and
then,
when
called
upon
star
six
to
unmute
yourself.
A
So
with
that
our
first
speaker
will
be
Bruce
England.
E
Thank
you,
Rebecca
I'm,
Bruce
England,
here
speaking
for
Mountain
View
Coalition
for
sustainable
planning
and
green
spaces,
Mountain
View.
This
looks
like
a
good
project,
but
we
do
have
a
couple
of
comments.
We'd
like
to
make
one
has
to
do
with
a
number
of
Windows
and
I
understand.
That
sounds
like
you
want
to
do
that
to
have
the
natural
lighting,
especially
from
the
south.
However,
there
is
risk
of
exposing
too
much
light
to
the
outside,
which
can
compromise
wildlife
and
also
exacerbate
energy
use.
E
So
we
hope
that
you
will
take
that
into
account
and
also
trust
that
the
windows
are
bird
safe,
adequately.
Bird,
safe
I
think
that's
actually
a
requirement
for
projects
so
that
part's
fine
and
then
this
might
go
beyond
DRC,
but
I'm
just
going
to
bring
it
up
anyway.
The
linear
Park
sections
in
the
parking
lot,
that's
great
I
mean
the
more
trees
and
the
more
pedestrian
friendly
infrastructure
the
better.
E
However,
it
appears
to
be
kind
of
cut
off,
it's
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
the
parking
lot
and
then
cut
off
from
the
rest
of
the
greenery
in
front
of
the
buildings.
Maybe
that
could
be
remedied
by
just
accenting
the
the
Gap
in
between
the
two,
so
the
people
don't
feel
like
they're
isolated
in
the
middle
of
the
parking
lot.
I'm
sure
you've
thought
of
these
things,
but
we
just
wanted
to
mention
that
we
noticed
it
and
wanted
to
comment
on
it.
Thank
you.
B
A
You
thank
you
Bruce
next
up
Yasmine,
if
you're
still
interested
or
Jasmine,
if
you're
still
interested
in
speaking,
please
raise
your
hand.
Otherwise
I
will
bring
the
deliberations
back
to
the
DRC.
A
All
right
sing,
No
More,
raised
hands.
I
oh
wait
hand
this
up
again,
so
Jasmine
Yasmine.
You
should
be
able
to
to
speak
right
now.
Oh.
G
Okay,
thank
you
just
a
very
quick
comment
about
the
area
in
the
sort
of
primary
drive
to
the
to
the
buildings
so
where
you
have
shading
on
both
sides
of
the
drive
way,
I'm
just
suggesting
that's
a
little
bit
too
exposed
for
people
to
see
it,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
Separation
there
with
some
sort
of
clever
planting.
It's
just
a
very
little
comment
there,
but
otherwise
I
thought
it
was
pretty
interesting.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
with
that
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
panel
chriser
or
whoever
is
controlling
the
the
slide
deck
for
the
otj
team.
If
you
could
maybe
bring
up
one
of
the
overview
site
plans,
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
place
to
start,
as
we
do
typically
start
with
a
site
plan.
Discussion,
I
I,
will
say:
I
I
I,
believe
you
are
kind
of
rushing
your
submittal
a
little
bit
after
the
holidays
to
to
try
to
meet
some
middle
deadlines
for
this
meeting.
A
But
one
big
picture
note
just
to
make
is
to
ensure
you
know
out
of
this
meeting
and
as
you
proceed
towards
your
final
public
hearings
on
this
project,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
plans
are
thoroughly
scrubbed
to
remove
inconsistencies
across
sort
of
various
architectural
landscaping
and
civil
sheets.
A
It
avoids
confusion
as
far
as
you
know,
folks,
who
are
looking
at
materials
ahead
of
the
final
public
hearings,
but
also
you
know,
voice
confusion
when
you're
reaching
the
building
permit
stage-
and
you
know
we
don't
want
to
to
be
scrubbing
our
memories
for
weight,
which
is
the
right
proposal.
So
so
that's
just
the
big.
A
big
picture
reminder
as
we
move
out
of
this
meeting
today:
I
I,
guess,
Emily
and
Linda
I.
A
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we're
observing
in
the
plan
is
a
little
bit
about
a
little
bit
of
what
a
couple
of
our
attendees
picked
up
on,
which
is
there.
There
is
this
sort
of
slight
disconnect
as
the
the
sort
of
Paving
plan.
The
special
Paving
plan
has
evolved
in,
what's
happening
in
front
of
you
know,
M1
through
three
and
what's
happening
on
the
entry
drive
and
I
know.
You
know
a
lot
of
that.
A
So
you've
arrived
at
the
current
strategy
through
feedback
from
staff,
about
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
pedestrian
Crossings
occur,
that
they're
really
clearly
delineated
to
create
a
safe,
safe
and
a
walking
environment
as
possible.
But
I
think
what
we've!
What
we've
ended
up
with
is
something
that
feels
a
little
bit
incongruous
and
as
far
as
the
paving
condition,
along
that
linear
entry
drive
and
Park
area
and
and
what's
happening
in
front
of
the
one
of
the
in
front
of
the
renovated
units,
the
adapted,
reuse
units.
A
So,
while
you
know
as
a
whole,
we're
supportive
of
and
and
want
you
to
continue
to
work,
to
make
sure,
there's
pedestrian
Crossing
locations
are
really
strongly
delineated
and
differentiated.
We.
We
do
think
that
more
of
that
sort
of
special
Paving
treatment,
that
sort
of
sinuous
or
circular
accent
element
needs
to
be
brought
back
into
and
around
the
the
entry
Drive.
Particularly
you
know,
starting
with
that
first
on-site
intersection
through
the
the
second
one
closer
to
the
buildings.
A
One
observation
I
had
on
my
own
as
I
I,
think
that
one
of
the
things
you're
grappling
with
is
how
to
integrate
The
Crossings
or
integrate,
while
differentiating
the
crossings
and
and
the
paving
pattern
and
I
do
wonder
whether
the
waves
stage
sort
of
these
sort
of
the
angular
striping
is
is
making
it
a
little
bit
more
challenging
to
devise
crossings
that
Crossings
and
other
special
Paving.
That
feels
feels
more
integrated,
so
you
might
want
to
look
a
bit
sort
of
give
another.
A
Look
at
your
striping
pattern
to
see
if
adjustments
to
that
lead
to
opportunities
for
a
more
more
more
integrated
Paving.
As
you
you
come
into,
the
linear
or
linear
entry
drives.
A
A
F
Yeah
and
I
think
there's
a
layer
of
wanting
to
preserve
these
existing
trees
as
well.
So
the
goal
is
to
be
able
to
have
as
much
canopy
as
possible
and
buffering
those
planting
areas.
So
we
that
that
was
a
big
consideration.
So,
whatever
the
interface
of
occupied
area
parking
existed,
it
was
our
goal
to
have
as
much
planting,
and
you
know
it's
not
a
major
area
to
do
a
lot
of
topography,
but
we'll
do
as
much
as
we
can
and
do
the
rest
of
the
planting.
A
Okay,
yeah
and
we're
not
looking
at
the
detailed
planting
plans,
but
it
does
look
like
you
have
some
buffer
areas
there,
and
so
just
you
know,
be
deliberate
with
very.
H
A
I
G
A
Would
also
say
that
I
think
one
another
thing
to
just
continue
to
refine
a
little
bit
further
is
how
how
the
canopies
are
situated
around
and
above
some
of
the
seating
areas.
I
know,
you
know
these
are
more
schematic
drawings,
but
it
it
seems
a
bit
like
the
canopies.
Do
a
lot
of
shading
of
landscape
and,
or
you
know,
walking
areas
and
and
aren't
aren't
as
sort
of
as
well
covering
of
some
of
the
seating
areas.
A
I
know
some
of
that
kind
of
the
coverage
you're
trying
to
create
from
the
higher
canopy
trees,
but
I
think
there's
some
tweaking
of
the
the
actual
structures
that
you
could
do
to
to
make
them
a
little
bit
better
integrated
with
the
locations
where
you
actually
have
tables
and
chairs
proposed
you're.
A
Two
final
small
notes,
which
are
the
things
that
that
staff
had
identified
to
to
me,
is:
you
know
one
I
think
one
of
the
incongruities
that
we
we
noted
was
location
of
vehicle
security
gates
based
on
some
of
the
you
know,
the
workshop
options
you
presented
to
staff,
so
you
know
please
make
sure
that
those
are
are
correctly
reflected
in
the
drawings
to
be.
You
know,
sitting
behind
the
architectural
elements
along
the
front
of
the
buildings
and
low
profile
spec.
A
Similarly,
although
this
is
not
something
that
you
know,
DRC
typically
weighs
deeply
into
our
planning
and
public
work.
Staff
have
recommended
that
you
continue
to
work
with
them
on
the
location
of
the
Interior,
secure
bike
parking
rooms
to
make
sure
that
they
they
are
easily
accessible
to
the
main
building
entrances.
In
particular,
you
know
we're
always
looking
we're
always
striving
to
make
those
sorts
of
facilities
as
accessible
as
possible.
A
So
this
is
certainly
something
that
DRC
supports,
even
though
it's
it's
not
as
has
sort
of
central
to
the
the
architecture
and
site
design
feedback
that
we
typically
provide.
I.
Think
most
of
what
we
want
to
talk
to
you
today
about
was
in
the
building,
design
and
I,
guess,
Emily
or
or
Linda.
A
Do
you
want
to
to
kick
us
off,
I
I?
Think
generally,
we
were
reacting
positively
to
the
concept,
but
do
have
some
areas
where
we
have
you
know,
questions
or
or
recommendations
to
drive
things
just
a
bit
a
bit
further
Emily
I
think
you
had
some
yeah
or
Linda
you.
You
had
some
thoughts
on
kind
of
the
front
in
relationship
to
the
back
and
how
we
might
treat
maybe
M2
in
a
slightly
different
way.
Sure.
H
If,
if
you
don't
mind,
Linda
I'm
happy
to
to
kick
it
off,
thanks
for
the
presentation,
guys,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
really
thoughtful
work
happening
here
and
I
applaud
the
project
for
the
Adaptive
reuse
approach
working
within
existing
openings
and
transforming
a
more
Auto
focused
Place
into
a
place
that
is
more
pedestrian,
friendly,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
really
nuanced
great
design
decisions
here
so
new
to
the
project.
H
Think
when
we
look
at
just
the
next
click
of
development
on
on
the
M2
facade,
I
think
I
I
question
the
idea
that,
because
we
all
know
that
glazing,
big
expenses
of
glazing,
well,
it's
great
for
the
people
inside
isn't
often
as
as
a
visually
penetrated
from
the
outside
and
I,
think
that
another
way,
meaning
that
it
can
be
very
reflective
and
I
I,
don't
think
it
necessarily
always
communicates
approachability.
H
So
I
think
you
could
think
about
that
developing
this
fritting
and
the
emollient
system
in
a
way
that
gives
material
scale
and
articulation
that
can
also
be
approachable.
You
don't
necessarily
have
to
see
in,
but
by
by
getting
that
fine
scale,
granularity
that
I
think
you're
already
developing
you
you're,
adding
an
approachability
to
the
project.
That's
in
line
with
your
kind
of
textural
strategy
throughout
the
rest
of
the
project
and
I
think
the
team
before
we
met,
we
think
I.
H
We,
we
think
you're
doing
a
lot
of
really
elegant
things
facing
the
new
landscape,
Plaza
that
you
call
the
Central
Park.
But
when
you
look
at
the
North
facade,
Casey
101
it
well.
There
are
some
very
that
you're
cleaning
up
a
lot
of
what
the
the
building
and
the
kind
of
more
auto
focus
existing
building
does
it.
It
does
still
seem
a
little
bit.
Blank
I
understand
that
there
are
only
certain
places
you
can
put
Windows,
but
fundamentally,
this
is
no
longer
a
big
box
store
that
needs
loading
on
the
back
right.
H
So
how
does
this
building
become
more
human
scaled
accessible
from
from
this?
This
view,
I
still
see
a
lot
of
kind
of
high
contrast
volumes,
which
you
know
tie
to
the
materiality
of
the
other
side
of
the
project,
but
don't
really
have
the
same
nuanced
scalar
relationships
that
you're
deploying
on
the
the
landscape
side,
so
I
think
there
could
be
a
little
bit
more
thought
to
some
of
what's
great
on
the
south
onto
the
northwest
side.
I
Yeah
I
think
that
this
rendering
shows
precisely
what
Emily's
talking
about
there's
only
one
of
these
projecting
elements
that
has
Windows
in
it
and
I
think
it
would
really
benefit
you
to
do
a
real,
intense
study
of
where
you
could
introduce
more
windows,
so
that
that
it
helps
to
break
up
these
masses
and
also
makes
it
more
clearer
that
this
building
is
an
r
d
building.
Now
that
these
buildings
are
r
d
buildings,
they
aren't
big
box
stores,
anymore
and
I.
I
Think
that's
I
think
that's
important
to
realize
that
the
the
roof
level
does
go
up
and
down,
but
it
needs
this.
This
needs
further
study
to
see.
If
you
can't
introduce
more
windows
into
that
elevation
facing
one-on-one,
then
you
realize
that
the
character
of
the
building
is
more
appropriate
for
the
use
that's
inside
of
it
I
guess
it's
the
best
way.
To
put
it.
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
yeah
and.
E
B
Absolutely
I
I
feel
like
you're
right.
You
want
the
the
outside
to
reflect.
What's
inside,
I
completely
agree,
and
we
we
appreciate
that
and
actually
it's
only
M1
and
M3
that
have
second
levels.
So
that's
why
M2
doesn't
have
that.
It's
actually
just
one
tall
space
on
the
inside
but
completely
agree
and
we'll
look
at
what
we
can
do
for
this
North
facade.
I
And
even
if
it's
possible
and
again
I
don't
know
but
at
if
it's
possible,
and
then
you
want
to
sit
that
first
floor,
especially
in
M2,
just
thinking
of
how
an
r
d
building
might
be
configured
internally,
maybe
it's
going
to
have
a
central
Courtyard
who
knows
when
you
get
that
right
down
to
it,
but
the
idea
of
being
able
to
have
workspaces
around
the
perimeter
of
that
since
it
doesn't
have
m
spaces.
A
Yeah
and
again,
I
think
going
going
back
to
Emily's
original
summary
and
building
on
that
window
is
saying
if
there
are
opportunities
to
get
additional
windows
in
there.
A
It's
a
you
know
great
beer
for
future
users,
but
also
you
know
we're
thinking
about
this
as
far
as
the
presence
of
these
buildings
will
have
towards
towards
the
freeway
and-
and
you
know,
unlike
unlike
retail,
that
has
you
know,
such
loading
back
of
house
focused,
needs
and
I'm,
not
that
you
know
life
science
doesn't
have
any
of
that,
but
you
know:
there's,
there's
greater
opportunity
and
and
I
would
imagine
sort
of
Greater
desire
to
create
an
architectural
presence
on
the
freeway.
A
It's
it's
a
different
base
of
the
project
and
you
know
you'll
be
opposite
some.
A
Some
new
development
in
North
Bay
Shore,
that's
going
to
be
pretty
special,
so
you
know
when
those
are
a
great
opportunity,
but
we'd
also
again
encourage
you,
as
as
Emily
I
think
was
noting
there's
you
know,
textural
and
other
other
detailed
elements
from
your
facade
treatments
that
that
might
you
know,
be
able
to
play
some
role,
particularly
maybe
for
for
M2
to
the
extent
that
the
the
interior
might
not
as
easily
support
similar
glazing
solutions.
A
That
Linda
touched
on
that
we'd
we'd
encourage
you
to
look
at
to
to
give
this
more.
You
know
more
four-sided,
design,
focus
and
Highway
presence.
I
Writing
as
many
of
the
features
that
you
can
pull
around
these
elevations,
so
that
it
is
a
cohesive
design
expression
all
the
way
around
the
building.
We
think
that's
important
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question:
I
think
on
the
site
plan,
and
probably
the
rendering
is
fine,
but
the
and
I
do
like
what
you're
doing
up
against
the
building.
I
think
that's
very
creative
and
very
nice.
I
I
was
a
little
struck
by
the
appearance
of
the
site
plans
that
makes
it
look
like
the
existing
trees
are
really
large
and
Lush,
but
they
really
aren't
and
just
wondering
what
the
plan
is
to
try
to
encourage
those
trees
to
Thrive.
There
are
Unfortunately
they
they
look
like
they're
struggling
and
what
is
the?
F
F
We
could
have
some
hope
that
the
especially
in
the
Central
Area
there
we'll
be
removing
a
lot
of
Paving
that
in
parking
that
was
surrounding
them
and
they'll
now
be
surrounded
in
linear
planting
areas
up
against
the
Gathering
spaces,
so
that
there's
some
hope
there
that
they'll
have
a
lot
more
permeability
around
them.
19
area.
I
F
I
I
I'm
concerned
that,
what's
out,
there
is
struggling
so
much
that
it's
going
to
defeat
some
of
your
concept
of
this
lush
green
surrounding
these
buildings.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
on
the
on
the
materials
for
the
building.
I
think
you
have
some
some
nice
materials
they're
the
way
the
wood
siding
is
presented.
I
It
seems
that
that
you
might
be
looking
at
options
that
are
real
wood,
not
real
wood,
various
materials
that
perhaps
you're
considering
I,
don't
know
for
composite
panels,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
to
provide
real
samples
to
staff
and
I'm
sure
staff
would
look
closely
at
this
as
to
how
it's
really
going
to
come
off
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like,
because
as
We
Know,
some
systems
are
much
better
than
others
in
terms
of
how
they
look,
how
they,
last
over
time
and
and
the
feeling
that
you
get
from
that
material.
I
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was,
as
we
all
know,
looking
at
different
screens
and
I
have
two
screens
that
I'm
looking
at
right
now,
the
colors
look
so
different
on
one
screen
than
another,
and
again
that's.
What's
going
to
be
really
important
with
the
sample
boards
that
you
provide
to
staff
and
as
you
go
forward
with
the
project,
I
think
that
my
initial
reaction
in
looking
at
my
small
screen
was
that
the
the
color
palette
looked
fairly
gray
and
a
little
cold.
I
But
when
I
look
on
my
large
screen,
it's
very
warm
and
I
think
it
looks
very
good.
I.
Also
like
the
some
of
those
examples
that
you
showed
the
photograph
of
how
these
panels
help
finish
on
the
panels.
Changes
when
the
light
hits
it
differently,
and
that
was
something
thank
you
for
explaining
that
that
I
I
I
was
very
pleased
to
hear
that,
because
what
it
does
as
the
Sun
hits
it
is
very
attractive.
I
And
so,
as
you
go
forward,
developing
your
final
palette
of
materials
in
color
I
think
it
will
be
important
for
staff
to
to
review
all
that
with
you
and
be
sure
that
it's
giving
the
right
the
right
feeling
of
what
you're
trying
to
do
with
the
building.
And
that
was
about
all
of
my
comments.
A
I
guess
one
one
quick
question:
Emily
and
Linda
I
mean
one
of
the
you
know
the
questions
we'd
pondered
was,
you
know
how
far
is
far
enough
for
giving
answer.
What
what
are
the
right
levers
to
pull
for
looking
at
M2
and
the
applicant
team
sort
of
highlighted
the
sort
of
the
options
that
they
had
considered
and
I
think
we're
we're
narrowing
in
on.
A
You
know,
I
think
what
they
showed
us
was.
You
know
a
mix
of
irregularly,
spaced
fins
with
frit
associated
with
that,
based
on
the
description
they
they've
provided
on
the
color.
Is
there
a
feeling
that
that
sort
of
a
lightning
of
of
M2
isn't
necessary
and
and
really
what
they
need
to
to
lean
in
on
is?
Is
you
know
further
study
of
that
pattern
of
of
fins
and
frit
to
create
a
little
bit
more
texture
and
lightness.
H
Yeah
I
think
from
my
from
my
take
after
hearing
Chris
present.
The
project
relies
heavily
on
scale
and
texture
and
shade
and
Shadow,
and
so
I
think
the
strategy
as
it
stands
is,
is
a
great
Direction.
I
do.
If
you
go
to
page
11,
I
wanted
to
look
at
kind
of
the
the
fifth
facade
for
a
second
to
Rebecca,
because
you
mentioned
you
know.
We
should
think
about
this
in
four
sides
and
we
talked
about
the
mechanical
screen
and
and
how
life
science,
often
the
equipment,
is
even
larger
than
you
know.
H
In
our
experience,
12
feet
you
know
presents
these.
This
roofscape
is,
is
really
critical
to
how
you
perceive
your
project,
especially
as
you're
thinking
about
Shifting
the
Paradigm
from
this
kind
of
the
big
box,
overly
articulated
faux
Skyline
to
something
that
is
more.
You
know
horizontal
in
read
which,
which
I
think
is
successful,
but
still
differentiates
place.
H
I
wonder
if
maybe
your
mechanical
screening
strategy
takes
a
lighter
color,
that's
more
akin
to
you,
know
the
sky
and
takes
it
out
of
the
kind
of
warm
brown
tones
so
that
those
masses
as
they
become
more
real,
maybe
in
their
size
and
their
organization,
don't
detract
from
what
you're
doing
on
the
the
other
facades
but
I'm
feeling
up
for
effort,
discussion.
A
A
A
B
It's
possible
I
think
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this,
what
we
were
concerned
about
doing
that,
if
we
were
to,
for
instance,
just
as
a
hypothetical,
if
we
were
to
take
the
mechanical
equipment
from
this
location
of
M2
and
put
it
over
onto
this
honestly,
it's
dead
zone
underneath
this
is
all
furred
out,
there's
nothing
there.
B
But
if
you
were
to
combine
these
together,
you're,
actually
taking
that
volume
and
you're
putting
it
closer
to
the
perimeter
of
the
building,
so
in
essence
what
you're
doing
is
you're
actually
making
it
more
visible
than
less.
So,
although
you
are,
you
know,
I
guess
centralizing
the
volume
you're
making
it
bigger
so
our
take
on
it
was
to
put
the
mechanical
screens
at
the
center
of
the
project.
So
essentially,
when
you're
at
more
or
less
the
center
of
the
parking
they
become
very,
very
minimal
from
eye
level.
B
Really
it's
only
when
you
get
out
to
Charleston
that
they
become
even
partially,
you
know
sticking
out
of
the
top
of
the
building.
So
we
just
think
the
closer
that
you
move.
The
mechanical
screen
to
the
perimeter,
the
more
visible
it
becomes
and
the
more
volume
you
know
the
heavier
the
building
becomes.
Actually
so
you
know
that
was
our
take
on
it.
B
It
is
maybe
possible
to
move
the
M1
mechanical
so
that
it's
butting
up
against
the
the
second
level
portion
of
of
M1
that
that's
a
possibility
but
functionally
it
seemed
like
putting
them
together,
served
the
buildings
better.
It
was
much
more
efficient,
so
there
were
a
couple.
There
are
a
couple
of
different
factors,
but
I
think
mainly
the
visibility
portion
is
we're
trying
to
keep
it
towards
the
center
of
the
buildings
to
reduce
the
mass.
A
Yeah
and
I
guess,
if
you
can
hold
hold
still
it
just,
it
seems
like
it
seems
like
they're
so
like
looking
at
M2
as
an
example,
you,
you
kind
of
have
some
of
that
M2
enclosure
jutting
out
towards
the
front
facade
currently
as
compared
to
M1,
and
then
it
just
seems
so
so
awfully
kind
of
like
close
to
to
there.
A
That,
like
you,
know,
elongating
it
sort
of
on
the
horizontal
and-
and
you
know,
seems
like
it
might
be-
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
meet,
meet
multiple
objectives
or
potential
design
objectives
that
that
we're
talking
around
you
know
a
combination
of
minimizing
views
and
integrating
with
forms
that
are
are
complementary,
so
yeah
I
think
it.
You
can
go
in
in
one
of
one
of
two
directions
there
yeah,
especially
if
there's
a
a
strong
likelihood
of
of
these
mechanical
screens
needing
to
get
taller
based
on
future
teneting.
A
Then
you
know
looking
at
at
color
and
looking
at
integration
with
other
forms
that
actually
allow
you
to
be
like,
be
purposeful,
with
creating
architectural
interests
with
them
and
or
integrating
them
with
other
other
forms
that
are
doing.
That
might
might
be
the
right
strategy.
I
I
think
another
thing
that
that
the
renderings
do
is
the
color
is
the
same
as
this
is
hot.
I
On
M3
and
I
liked
Emily's
comment
about
the
considering
what
color
you're
going
to
use
for
those
screens
that
I
think
you
don't
want
those
screens
to
feel
like
they're,
the
same
material
as
the
facade
and
if
I'm
looking
at
the
drawings
that
seem
like
they
are
a
different
material
but
I
think
you
really
need
to
study
the
color
that
you're
going
to
put
on
the
because
I
think
you
don't
want
those
to
be
mistaken
for
part
of
the
habitable
part
of
the
building.
I
So
just
you
know
I
think,
taking
into
account
all
the
all
the
comments
and
and
really
trying,
especially
with
that
screen
on
M2,
to
pull
it
back
and
make
it
more
linear
is,
is
Rebecca
was
suggested,
but
that's
so
weird
yeah.
A
So
diving
into
some
of
the
the
details
you
you're
applying
you're,
applying
stucco
to
the
existing
CMU
or
are
you
utilizing
existing
stucco?
What's
what's
the
strategy
there.
A
That
that
is
something
that
we'll
want
to
see
in
the
material
palette.
Before
proceeding,
you
know,
generally,
you
know
we
aim
for
something
on
the
smoother
smoother
end,
so
we'll
we'll
want
to
see
that
specification
before
before
public
hearings.
A
Similarly,
where
are
you
as
far
as
looking
at
Park
books
versus
sequoia
or
or
natural
theater?
Is
there
a
possibility
that
you'll
use
sort
of
different
things
for
different
applications
like
what
what's?
What's
the
Thought
there.
B
I
think
it
would
be
ideal
to
use
the
same
material
throughout.
Our
thought
was
some
kind
of
thermally
modified
wood,
so
it
had
the
it
had
the
longevity.
It
would
still
need
to
be
maintained
every
couple
of
years,
but
that
it
did
have
that
lifespan
that
we're
looking
for
in
a
commercial
building.
It
is
possible
that
maybe
we
do
thermally
modified
at
the
portal,
like
the
vertical
portions
of
the
portals.
Let
me
find
so
you
know
like
for
all
these
panels.
Maybe
we
do
that
thermally
modified,
maybe
for
the
actual
portals
themselves.
B
A
Yeah
yeah
I
will
say:
we've
seen
success
with
with
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
parkworks
pretty
much
products
and
akoya
I
do
Wonder
a
little
bit
if
Cedar
is
going
to
gray
out
more
than
some
of
those.
Those.
A
Which,
which
might
be
a
concern
but
similar
to
the
the
stucco
I,
think
our
our
goal
would
be
to
have
something?
That's
our
our
sort
of
starting
point.
So
you
know
if,
if
parklick
seemed
like
it
was,
it
was
viable
for
the
the
range
of
of
products
or
you
know,
whatever.
Whatever
you
go
with
I
think
we
could
support
one
of
those
three
but
we'd
like
one
as
a
starting
point
to
serve
as
the
basis
for
for
the
review.
You
know
if
product
availability
or
other
issues
come
up.
A
We
can
consider
an
alternative
that
is
comparable
to
to
that,
but
but
I
think
we
want
to
narrow,
narrow
the
lens
there.
As
far
as
what's
being
proposed
as
much
as
possible,
a
small
detail
on
a
detail
is
just
making
sure
that
you're
you're
identifying
the
extent
of
window
recess,
for
whatever
conditions
are,
are
around
the
projects
that
rolls
into
standard
conditions
of
approval
that
these
projects
have,
and
just
it
adds
assurance
and
Clarity
to
what
the
proposal
is.
So
we're
not
questioning.
A
But
you
know
I
think
you
know
broadly
what
we.
What
we're
recommending
today
is
is
continued
refinement.
A
I
think
you
you've
shown
some
real
success
in
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
with
staff
to
the
the
combination,
thin
and
frit
Concepts
on
on
M2,
some
further
investigation
of
of
how
you
can
control
additional
texture,
detail
and
or
glazing
around
to
the
the
rear
of
the
buildings
zeroing
in
again
more
on
the
mechanical
screens
and
how
they
fit
into
or
differentiate
from
The
Building
architecture.
A
Further,
and
then
you
know
again
continued
refinement
of
the
paving
Concepts
to
maintain
delineation
of
The
Crossings,
but
integrate
more
of
that
special
detailing
through
the
the
entry
drive
and
refinement
to
the
amenities
in
that
linear.
Well,
the
near
park,
space
amenities
and
Landscaping
and
Luminaire
park
space
I
think
those
are
in
addition
to
the
material
items
that
we
just
talked
through.
A
The
the
key
final
recommendations
of
the
DRC
today
Linda
Emily
or
Ella,
is
there
anything
that
I
I
might
have
missed
or
or
that
you're
remembering
is,
is
one
more
point
that
you
you
felt
like
we
needed
to
talk
with
the
applicant
team
about
today.
I
Well,
I
think
I
think
that
you
mentioned
the
Road
access
control
and
pushing
that
back.
I
think
this
is
a
good
rendering
to
show
where
the
arm
is.
You
can
see
the
arm
off
to
the
right
there,
and
it
would
definitely
be
much
better
if
it's
pulled
back
significantly
so
that
it
it
doesn't
hit
right
where
that
large
wrapping
form
is
Right.
A
Okay,
great
so
with
that
I
feel
a
little
Bittersweet.
We've
got
Emily
new
to
us
today,
but
the
last
virtual
ERC
meeting.
It's
been
a
run
of
about
three
years
now
of
these
Dr
community.
So
it's
gonna
be
weird
talking
with
folks
in
person
and
learning
how
to
to
mark
up
drawings
in
person
again.
But
you
know
thank
you
to
the
applicant
team
for
the
work
you've
done
up
to
now,
and
you
know
the
feedback
and
information
you
you
gave
to
us
today.
A
I
think
we're
confident
that
you
can.
You
can
resolve
these
issues
and
working
with
staff
and
don't
need
to
come
back
to
DRC
with
the
solutions.
So
again
you
know
Workshop
some
some
resolutions
with
staff
and
and
then
screw
up
the
plans
for
consistency
throughout
before
public
hearings.
A
You
can
coordinate
with
Ella
to
dig
into
more
of
the
weeds
of
how
to
effectuate
those
next
steps
offline,
but
she
is
your
best
resource
and
she
can
easily
reach
me
so
with
that
I
will
be
adjourning.
Today's
Final
virtual
DRC
meeting
and
we'll.
F
A
Sure
talk
with
some
compliment
of
all
of
you
again
sometime
in
the
not
at
least
in
the
future,
so
I
hope
everyone's
well
and
stays
well
and
and
have
a
good
rest
of
your
day.
Thank.