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C
D
B
All
right
we
have
forum
and
we
can
move
forward.
I
would
like
to
start
with
item
three
on
the
agenda,
which
is
oral
Communications
from
the
public.
I
would
like
to
note
this
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
committee
on
any
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
limited
to
three
minutes,
and
state
law
prohibits
the
committee
from
acting
on
these
non-agendized
items
for
any
members
of
the
public
who
have
comments
on
our
agendized
items.
Later
we
will
be
getting
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda
momentarily.
B
This
is
a
time
for
things
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
Do
we
have
any
members
what
I
see
one
hand
from
Bruce
England
I
was
wondering
if
someone
could
unmute
them
and
Brandon?
Would
you
like
me
to
time.
E
E
Y'all,
this
is
actually
it
is
actually
an
action
item,
but
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
problem
and
Brandon.
E
You
don't
need
to
answer
this
because
I
know
you're
not
well
so
wish
you
a
speedy
recovery,
but
the
URL
in
the
agenda
is
still
lacking
the
code
for
the
zoom
session
and
I'm,
hoping
that
in
future
bpac
meetings,
you
can
put
URLs
in
the
agenda
files
that
include
that
so
that
it
can
be
a
single
click
thing
I'm,
asking
all
the
advisory
bodies
this
and
that
singling
be
pack
out
gradually
progress
is
being
made.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
bring
up
thanks.
B
Thank
you,
Bruce
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
also
see
hand
raised
from
a
member
of
the
public
Holger.
A
B
F
G
B
G
Can
I
I
like
to
point
out
about
some
recent
improvements
which
has
been
made
with
good
intentions
to
increase
bicycle
safety
in
the
area
year
round,
but
at
least
in
my
opinion,
which
reduced
the
safety
for
cyclists
in
some
situations
here,
for
example,
this
one
in
Palo
Alto
on
Hanover
Street
crossing
Crossing,
Page,
Mill
Road,
where
the
complete
Road
was
resurfaced,
we
paved
on
the
small
fort
on
the
right
shows
the
previous
conditions,
with
barely
any
Street
markings
and
the
new
conditions
in
the
large
photons
are
left
with
nice,
clear,
Street
markings
and
bike
Lanes
bike
lane
between
the
Straight,
Ahead,
Car
Lane
and
the
right
turn
car
Lane.
G
But
the
problem
with
it
is
if
you
are
waiting
or
riding
on
the
bicycle
lane,
a
cyclist
cars
are
speeding
along
you
on
the
right
side,
with
high
speed,
much
much
faster
speeds
than
I
noticed
before
and
I
I'm
riding
there.
Maybe
once
a
week
almost
and
previously,
with
no
Street
markings
were
almost
no
Street
markings.
It
was
much
safer
because
cars-
maybe
they
were
confused,
they
drove
slower
but
I
felt
safer
before
it's
interesting
observation.
Maybe
in
the
next
slide,
please.
G
This
is
in
San,
Francisco
Presidio,
with
sweet
corn
methods,
and
it's
completely
confusing
what
false
added
here.
It's
a
t,
Crossing
the
the
high
speed
curve,
marking
so
really
curve
markings
in
the
way
that
you
can
increase
your
speed,
even
instead
of
making
sharp
turns
and
then
the
speed
bump
in
the
middle,
which
is
barely
visible
in
the
shades
there
and
the
sharp
metal
science
in
his
bloggers
there
it's
a
bit
unfortunate
yeah.
Thank
you.
That's
all.
B
Thank
you.
Holger
I
really
appreciate
the
slides
and
to
see
the
visuals
of
some
of
those
bike.
If
things
that
you
raise
up.
Thank
you
so
much
other
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised
from
a
member
of
public.
B
The
minutes
are
from
the
November
30th
2022
meeting
and
I
believe
just
a
point
of
record
that
a
member
Stone
you
are
allowed
to
vote
on
these
if
they
look
accurate
and
complete,
but
you
may
also
abstain.
I
know
you
were
not
here,
so
that
is
up
to
you
to
decide
what
at
your
comfort
level,
but
there's
no
rule
thing.
You
cannot
have
an
expressed
voice
on
this,
particularly
if
you
found
any
errors.
C
Yes,
there
was
just
for
the
random
committee
comments.
It
says
that
I
said
that
Fremont
has
great
bike
infrastructure.
If
we
can
correct
that
to
say
that
I
read
an
article
about
Fremont
having
great
bike
infrastructure,
it
was,
and
you
don't
need
to
add
anything
else,
but
I
ineffectively
brought
it
up
to
say
that
probably
someone
in
Fremont's
PR
department
is
reaching
out
to
Publications
to
advertise
their
good
work
and
just
to
wonder
whether
Mountain
View
could
do
the
same.
But
anyway,
if
we
can
just
change
it
to
that,
I
read
an
article
thanks.
B
Are
there
any
public
comments
on
our
meeting
with
it?
I
don't
see
any
all
right
with
that
change,
do
it
I
forget?
Do
we
need
to
make
a
motion
to
change
the
minutes
or
for
that
correction?
So.
H
I
would
just
put
it
down
as
approved
the
minutes
from
the
bpac
meeting
on
November
30th
2022,
with
the
following
edit
Dominic
read
an
article
that
Fremont
had
great
bike
infrastructure.
Does
that
work.
I
C
B
B
All
right
so
any
and
then
abstentions,
I
believe,
remember,
Stone.
You
said
you
were
going
to
abstain
all
right,
so
that
is
that
that
the
minutes
have
been
approved
for
zero
one
with
one
extension
and
we
had
no
unfinished
business.
So
this
gets
us
to
item
6.1
on
our
agenda,
which
is
the
election
process
for
2023,
chair
and
vice
chair.
So
we
are
as
as
is
our
custom
in
the
first
meeting
in
the
New
Year,
we
as
a
bpac
elect
a
new
chair
and
a
new
Vice
chair
to
take
us
through
the
next
year.
B
It's
been
a
great
pleasure
for
me
to
serve
here.
There
is
a
great
member
Memo
from
staff
on
this
that
details
the
process
staff.
Is
there
any
additional
presentation
beyond
the
memo?
I
see
a
no.
So
basically
we
start
out
with
taking
nominations
for
chair
and
we
run
the
election
for
chair
first
and
then
we'll
run
the
election
for
vice
chair.
Second,
so
is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
stand
for
chair
in
2023.
B
B
D
I'll
make
a
motion
to
nominate
member
of
Cushman
as
chair
for
the
upcoming.
B
Year,
thank
you.
Member
Barton
do
I,
have
a
second
I'd
like
to
second
thank
you.
Member
adamek
I
would
like
to
take
of
any
I
didn't
hear
any
other
nominations.
So
I
would
like
to
take
a
vote
for
Vice
chair
kushma
to
become
chair
for
2023
bpac,
all
in
favor.
If
you
could
raise
your
hand,
I
I
see
it
is
unanimous.
Adamic,
Fenwick,
Barton,
kushma
and
stone
have
all
voted
in
favor,
so
there
will
be
no
objections
and
no
abstentions
on
that.
So
welcome
chair
kushma
I
hand.
I
I
I
Think
last
time
either
Terry
nor
I
were
willing,
and
so
it
fell
to
cheerful
or
but
former
chair
fin
Mike.
B
I
So
I
hear
member
Stone
nominated
himself.
Anyone
else
wants
to
nominate
themselves,
foreign
none.
Do
we
have
a
a
motion
for
that.
I
That
appears
to
be
unanimous
to
me,
so
we
now
have
a
vice
chair
for
the
upcoming
year,
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
was.
We
at
any
point
needed
to
take
public
comment
on
that
item,
but
I
do
not
see
any
hands
rates
on
that.
So
we
will
continue
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
6.2
and
is
the
active
Transportation
collision
and
bicycle
theft.
Report
I,
assume
that
is
Mr
St,
critter,
nope,
okay,.
K
C
K
For
this
quarter
we
saw
a
total
of
eight
bicycle
coalitions
across
the
city,
and
we
saw
only
two
pedestrian
collisions
and
then
you'll
also
see
the
near-miss
layers
included
with
the
yellow
dots
I
believe
it
was
slight
decrease
from
last
quarter
by
one
Collision,
but
that's
trending
in
the
right
direction.
K
If
there's
any
questions,
you
can
take
those.
Otherwise
we
can
move
over
to
the
stolen
bicycles
for
the
quarter.
C
C
Would
you
ever
count
that
as
a
collision
or
is
it
strictly
like?
There
was
no
police
report?
Therefore
it
doesn't
count
as
a
collision.
It's
just
a
near-miss.
K
Yes,
so
if
it's
not
reported
to
the
department,
we
have
no
way
of
vetting
it
and
we
have
not
taken
a
report,
so
that
would
not
count
as
an
actual
Collision.
We
do
encourage
people
to
file
a
report
if
they
are
hit
that
way,
we
can
keep
track
of
our
numbers
more
accurately.
Thanks.
K
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
store
on
bicycles,
we
had
62
Stolen
Bikes
in
the
city.
That's
also
up
from
slightly
nothing
really
out
of
the
ordinary
to
report
that
continue
to
be
through
burglary's,
residential
and
also
petty
theft
and
Grand
Theft,
and
a
slight
reminder
if
you
are,
if
anyone
does
have
high
school
still
in
the
city,
make
sure
you're
taking
note
of
the
serial
numbers
and
reporting
that
when
you
report
the
theft,
that
is
a
lot
easier
for
us
to
track
and
hopefully
get
it
recovered.
For
you.
I
All
right
was
that
all
you
had
for
presentation.
I
I
will
actually
ask
one
question
that
I
only
just
occurred
to
me.
You
mentioned
that
there
are
a
lot
more
or
in
this
report.
There
are
a
lot
more
bicycle
than
pedestrian
reported
into
the
crashes.
Does
I
recall
that
from
the
vision,
zero
stuff
or
the
Y
solution,
zero
data
that
I
remember
there
have
historically
been
more
pedestrian
fatalities
and
bicycle
fatalities?
Did
there
also
used
to
be
more
pedestrian,
collisions
than
bicycle
collisions.
K
I,
don't
have
specifics,
but
I
I
can
say
anecdotally
that
I
do
believe.
There
are
my
more
bicycle
collisions
than
there
are
pedestrian
collisions
in
the
city.
I
Okay,
thank
you.
We
will
go
to
public
comment.
It
appears
that
holder
Eisenberg
has
his
hand
traced
all.
F
G
I
If
you
can
respond,
that
would
be
great
an
order.
K
Okay,
yeah.
We
always
recommend
that
you
up
your
bikes,
it
definitely
deters
the
crimes,
but
it
does
not
stop
them.
Unfortunately,
we
have
some
crafty
criminals,
all
over
the
Bay
Area
and
unfortunately,
we
just
don't
have
a
way
to
pull
out
the
data
in
a
way.
K
I
All
right
any
committee
comments
or
further
questions:
I
guess,
member
of
domic.
C
Okay,
maybe
this
is
more
a
work
plan
comment,
but
we
get
these
relatively
frequently
and
I
I
think
they're
valuable,
but
just
relative
to
other
things
that
could
be
presented,
I'm,
not
sure,
because
it's
a
relatively
high
frequency,
which
makes
at
least
the
Collision
data
relatively
sparse
and
I'm,
not
sure
what
we
are
supposed
to
conclude,
or
you
know,
we've
given
feedback
in
the
past
and
they're
nice.
C
Things
like
the
ask
Mountain
View
near
misses
are
now
included,
but
other
things
like
what
actually
happened
in
this
Collision,
it
seems
like
it's
kind
of
a
stasis
of
like
well.
This
is
what's
written
down
in
the
report,
so
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
know
and
I'm
just
thinking.
This
is
like
the
negative
stuff
that
happens
and,
on
the
other
hand,
I
feel
very
like
disoriented
when
it
comes
to
like
the
positive
stuff.
I
Thank
you,
member
Barton.
D
Yeah
I
guess
two
comments
so
number
one:
just
a
reaction
to
a
lot
of
comment.
I
do
like
seeing
the
data
I,
don't
know
that
they
need
to
be
a
discussion
Point
other
than
that
attachment
to
the
agenda,
and
if
there's
questions
or
comments,
we
can
follow
at
a
later
time,
but
I
think
more
data
is
better
and
what
a
lot
is
common
basically
says:
is
she
likes
this
data,
but
I
think
she
would
also
look
for
additional
data
now.
Well,
resourcing
is
an
issue
and
I.
Don't
know
if
the
question
would
be.
D
Is
there
a
way
that
volunteers
or
vpac
members
could
compile
on
the
data
from
the
database
in
a
more
usable
format
for
spotting
Trends,
but
I
see
this
as
progress
from
where
we
were
and
obviously
we
have
progress
to
go
and
the
one
comment
about
the
data
itself
is
on
the
Collision
data.
D
D
B
I,
this
is
a
I
guess,
a
descent
to
a
member
atomics.
A
a
comment.
I
find
this
really
useful.
Having
been
on
the
bpac
now,
I
believe
this
is
my
seventh
year
we
did
not
formally
have
this
data
and
I
think
it
really
helped
myself
as
a
bpac
member
make
more
informed
decisions.
It's
also
a
bit
of
I
I
appreciate
the
police
department
taking
the
time
to
collect
and
collate
this
from
the
multiple
sources.
I,
don't
believe.
B
Perhaps
Kelly
could
comment
on
that,
but
I
don't
believe
this
is
all
of
these
are
public
sources
of
data.
These
are
ask
Mountain,
View,
Q
information
together,
not
Kelly
doing
these
are
not
public
sources
of
data,
so
this
is
a
I
appreciate,
seeing
it
quarterly.
There
are
times
in
the
past
when
we
wouldn't
get
it
and
often
I
think
then
it
was
a
little
bit
of
an
exercise
to
go
back
and
find
all
the
data
to
have
the
presentation.
So
I
really
appreciate
it.
B
It
gives
me,
and
also
now
that
we
have
the
data
presented
here.
It
is
now
readily
available
for
staff
and
I
know
it
can
help
when
we
have
intersections
coming
up.
I
also
believe
staff
does
a
pretty
good
job
of
bringing
projects
to
us
as
well,
and
I
see
a
lot
of
emails
from
the
city
that
get
forwarded
from
staff
as
well,
but
there's
always
a
lot
of
work
going
on
I
I
for
one
just
really
really
appreciate
these
reports.
B
I
have
seen
a
lot
more
awareness
with
other
residents
in
the
city,
with
this
data
and
and
for
myself,
I
find
I
can
make
better
decisions
having
it
and
I
have
found.
It
also
helps
influence
staff.
At
least
we
can
pull
back
stuff.
If
we
hear
something
anecdotally
about
an
intersection,
we
can
go
back
and
look
and
see
those
crashes
and
it's
more
data
driven
and
I
appreciate
it.
J
Yeah
I'm,
when
I
look
at
this
data,
I
guess
going
back
to
member
atomic's
comment,
it's
hard
to
know
what
to
do
with
it,
especially
knowing
that
there's
data,
that's
missing
that
I
feel
would
be
necessary
to
really
interpret
it.
Like
you,
you
you're,
given
a
numerator
without
the
denominator.
We
know
where
bicycle
collisions
are,
but
we
don't
know
how
many
cyclists
are
on
that
road.
We
know
how
much
that
there
is,
but
we
don't
know
how
much
bicycle
ownership
is
going
up
or
or
other
factors.
J
I
guess
it
would
be
really
nice
to
get
this
additional
data.
But
I
also
am
aware
that
that
you
know
there's
limitations
in
staff
and
resources
and
data
collection,
I,
I
guess.
My
comment
is
to
to
to
coincide
with
memorandomic
it's
hard
to
know
what
to
do
with
this.
In
absence
of
more
data,
but
also
as
member
Fenwick
said,
data
is
good,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
have
the
data.
So
I
guess
that's
my
comment.
J
It's
nice,
but
it
would
be
really
nice
to
have
more
data
such
as
ridership
data
or
even
kind
of
a
guess
of
how
much
is
not
reported.
I
know
there
was
a
collision
in
front
of
Randall's
Elementary.
That
was
not
reported
because
they
chose
not
to
file
a
police
report
I
think
last
month.
So
it's
you
know
it's
good
to
have
data
Petra
data
is
always
better,
but
it
may
not
be
practical
to
achieve.
I
All
right,
thank
you,
yeah,
oh
Brandon,
do
you
want
to
say
something?
First,.
A
I'm
sorry,
chair,
I,
didn't
want
to
cut
you
off
just
when
you
all
done
making
your
comments.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
message
from
staff.
I
Yeah
I
I
really
appreciate
these
reports.
I
think
it's
important
that
they
come
before
bpac
as
an
item,
because
that
helps
to
make
sure
they
keep
coming.
I
would
not
mind
them
being
semi-annual
instead
of
quarterly,
because
we
tend
to.
We
are
getting
to
have
more
and
more
in
our
agendas
and
I
would
not
mind
being
able
to
keep
the
meetings
concise,
so
I
I,
don't
know
what
the
the
procedure
would
be
to
get
the
semi-annually
instead
of
quarterly
people
were
comfortable
with
that.
But
I
I
would
not
mind
that
personally.
I
A
Not
what
I
had
clipped
over
for,
but
we
would
address
this
during
that
draft
work
plan
in
the
work
plan.
It's
where
we
set
and
it's
currently
set
for
quarterly,
so
we'll
maintain
that
obligation
until
we
do
the
bring
you
to
the
draft
work
plan
and
we
discussion
what
I
wanted
to
just
interject
was
just
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
Kelly
Kelly
will
be
moving
on
over
to
Maryland.
A
A
And
then
I
also
want
to
welcome
the
officer
Frank
Sinclair,
Lieutenant,
Dan
has
retired
and
officer.
Frank's
declare
has
been
my
understanding
he's
coming
back,
at
least
temporarily
to
assist
here
with
epec.
Thank
you
welcome.
H
And
I
want
to
reiterate
the
thanks
book
for
Kelly's
work.
It's
been
really
great
and
we've
met.
We've
made
great
progress
since
you've
been
with
the
city,
so
we
really
appreciate
your
work
and
your
engagement.
I
I
A
All
right
and
I'll
be
giving
that
I'm
going
to
give
it
a
little
bit
slower
than
I.
Ordinarily
might
so,
let
me
go
ahead
and
take
the
screen.
A
So
what
we're
looking
for
from
me
today,
staff
is
going
to
be
recommending
short-term
alternative
to
we'd
like
to
know.
If
you
pack
supports
that
recommendation,
staff
will
also
be
recommending
long-term
alternative
to
and
we'd
like
to
know,
bpac
sports
that
recommendation
and
then.
Finally,
if
bpac
has
any
other
comments.
A
So
the
goals
of
the
project
first
is
to
support
the
council's
major
goal
of
mobility
and
connectivity,
so
creating
remote,
Mobility
Network
across
the
city
of
Mountain
View
that
establishes
green
corridors.
Most
Transit
Safe
Transportation
reduces
single
occupancy
vehicles
and
increases
walking
and
biking.
A
All
right
history:
this
was
brought
to
the
bpac
in
August
of
2020
and
brought
in
April
of
21.
in
April
21,
three
Alternatives
were
presented
alternative
one,
it's
class,
two
bike
Lanes
throughout
alternatives
to
what's
class
three
sharrows
multi-use
Lane
markings
throughout
an
alternative.
Three
was
a
hybrid
option
of
the
two,
the
class
two
bike:
Lanes
from
El
Camino
Real.
It's
a
high
school
way
and
class
three
shares
from
high
school
way
to
California
Street.
The
staff
recommendation
was
the
hybrid
alternative.
Three.
A
A
A
This
allows
the
space
behind
the
trees
to
be
utilized
for
other
things,
including
bike
racks,
art
plants.
We
have
an
example
of
what
the
art
might
look
like
if,
if
development
occurs,
Fairmont
may
be
vacated
enclosed
per
the
downtown
precise
one,
and
if
that
does
occur,
then
this
would
allow
for
additional
parking,
parallel
parking
and
then
lastly,
there's
pedestrian
Refuge
Island
provided
as
part
of
that
project.
A
Now,
moving
North
in
the
project
area
so
for
a
short-term
alternative
one
was
the
spike
Lanes
with
existing
parking.
When
we
see
the
existing
parking
here
is
angled
and
we
have
brought
the
bike
lane
farther
than
it
was
in
the
past.
We
brought
it
up
as
as
close
as
we
believe
possible
to
the
intersection.
Once
we
reach
the
intersection,
we
do
switch
to
Cheryl
markings
in
order
to
preserve
the
eight-phase
signal
that
does
provide
pedestrian
protections
at
the
intersection.
A
Lord
of
the
church,
it's
the
same
situation
with
chicharrows
provided
near
the
intersection,
maintaining
the
protected,
maintaining
the
protection
for
pedestrians
at
church
and
Castro,
but
providing
bike
Lanes.
To
the
extent
we
can
bike
lane
turns
into
a
class
4
protected
Bikeway
near
the
Kaiser
Permanente
driveway
and
Northbound
Direction.
A
A
three
foot
for
that
area:
seventh,
rideable
space
and
11th
foot
for
the
traveling,
not
11
feet-
is
important
because
buses
do
operate
on
Castro.
That
is
also
the
reason
why,
in
all
of
the
short-term
Alternatives,
a
bike
lane
cannot
be
provided
for
southbound
from
California
to
the
Kaiser
driveway
Gyros
are
the
only
option.
An
11
foot.
Traveling
is
required
for
a
bus,
the
minimum
bike.
Lane
width
is
5
feet
which
makes
16
feet
when
we
have
15
feet
from
curve
to
curb
face.
Therefore,
sheriffs
are
utilized.
A
A
A
A
Let
me
talk
about
alternative
too
again.
Everything
from
El,
Camino
Real
to
Yosemite
is
the
same.
An
alternative
to
the
only
change
is
the
provision
of
parallel
parking,
and
you
can
see
that
parallel
parking
is
provided
here,
bringing
up
space
behind
the
trees
and
all
of
our
examples.
None
of
the
trees
in
the
parking
area
are
Disturbed
and
here's.
What
that
could
possibly
look
like-
and
here
is
a
measurement
of
what
the
tree
curve
and
gutter
in
parking
area
looks
like
on
an
each
cross
section.
A
A
Moving
to
Alternative
three
alternative,
three
maintains
existing
parking.
What's
different
about
alternative
three
is
the
intersection
of
church
and
Castro.
The
bike
lane
is
bought
through
this
would
require
a
change
in
the
signaling,
which
is
an
increased
cost
and
the
loss
of
The
Pedestrian
Productions,
provided
for
by
the
APA
signal.
A
A
And
at
the
intersection
of
church
and
Castro
and
Castro
and
mercy
and
analyzes
and
considers
the
feasibility
of
a
roundabout
or
a
pedestrian
scramble,
roundabouts
would
lower
travel
time
for
all
users.
Pedestrian
scrambles
would
increase
travel
time
for
all
users.
Both
treatments
would
allow
for
the
Bike
Room
to
be
brought
through,
while
still
maintaining
pedestrian
Productions.
A
It's
brought
through
until
you
reach
the
Kaiser
Permanente
driveway,
the
Northbound
Direction
in
the
Kaiser
Permanente
driveway
is
the
same
as
in
the
short
term
in
the
southbound
Direction.
It
is
different
in
the
southbound
direction.
We
are
able
to
provide
a
bike
lane
and
once
we
provide
for
a
bike
lane,
we
have
to
then
provide
a
proper
fire
code
protections
by
moving
that
curve
line,
which
indicates
that
then
we
will
have
to
move
the
curve
and
the
median
that's
the
curb
line,
I'm
speaking
of
in
by
five
feet.
A
If
we
move
that
group
line
in
by
five
feet,
the
existing
trees
have
to
shift
down
by
approximately
three
to
five
feet.
Our
Forester
has
reviewed
the
trees
and
believes
they
are
healthy
enough
to
withstand
that
transplant
and
the
shifting
down.
If
that
is
to
occur
soon,
if
it
does
not
occur
soon,
the
trees
would
be
replaced
with
nutrients
foreign
you'll
see
here
it's
a
buffered
space
and
again
protected
where
possible.
This
is
a
bus
stop
here.
A
A
A
Now
this
roundabout,
we
do
show
it
here
in
the
long
term,
although
we
do
believe
that
it's
possible
that
it
can
be
in
the
short
or
medium
term
as
development
and
design
is
occurring
quite
rapidly
on
the
pedal,
and
this
would
be
part
of
that
ped
mode
project
and
what
we
are
suggesting
for
that
roundabout.
This
is
a
much
bigger
roundabout,
so
we're
not
suggesting
this
for
Castro
and
mercy
this
this
roundabout
would
have
full
protection
of
the
bike
Lanes
throughout,
and
you
can
see
here
what
that
might
look
like,
pastor
and
mercy.
A
Long-Term
alternative
to
long-term
alternative
to
is
the
same
as
long-term
alternative
one,
except
it
has
parallel
parking
parallel
parking,
it
utilizes
the
space
behind
the
tree
line
and,
in
this
case,
with
a
long-term
option,
we'd
also
be
bringing
that
sidewalk
out,
which,
of
course,
adds
to
the
project
cost.
We
bring
that
sidewalk
out
and
create
a
curved
line
against
the
parking.
A
And
one
site
difference
here
with
parallel
parking
foreign,
the
cars
are
now
parallel
and
we
ensured
that
we
had
a
four
foot
buffer
space
against
the
parking
by
the
average
car
door
when
open
is
four
feet
wide
and
that
would
fully
accommodate
the
car
door
and
a
five
foot
buffer
State
five.
What
rideable
space
with
a
four
foot
buffer
space.
A
Short
to
median
turn
Alternatives
alternative
one
provides
some
bike
Lanes,
it
maintains
the
ankle
parking,
it
loses
as
all
of
these
Alternatives
do.
We
use
seven
parking
spaces
from
Motor
Vehicles,
but
increases
parking
space
by
40
for
bicycle
spaces.
The
relative
cost
is
the
lowest
there
for
all
of
our
short-term
options.
There
is
no
change
in
the
level
of
service.
A
Alternative
two
provides
some
bike
lanes
and
also
bike
racks
and
art.
It
does
that
by
providing
parallel
parking
and
reutilizing
the
space
behind
Street
trees.
It
does,
however,
have
an
increased
loss
in
motor
vehicle
parking
of
five,
so
12
total
loss
of
spaces
which
can
be
offset
with
we
are
suggesting
at
the
national
94
bicycle
parking.
Spaces,
however,
is
slightly
more
extensive.
A
A
A
As
alternative
three,
except
it
has
parallel
parking
instead,
therefore
reutilizing
some
of
the
space
behind
the
trees
and
as
a
similar
cost,
an
an
increased
cost
due
to
the
changes
of
church
and
Castro
short,
long-term
alternatives.
Long-Term
alternative
one
class,
two
by
ways
buffered
in
class
for
protected
bikeways
wherever
possible,
can
test
maintain
angle
parking.
It
does
have
a
loss
of
10
spaces
which
are
made
up
for
was
10
bike,
racks,
bicycle
spaces
being
added.
That's
five
bike
racks
for
10,
bicycle
spaces:
it
has
a
lower
relative
cost
than
alternative
to
to
be
clear.
A
The
long-term
options
cost
more
than
the
short-term
options,
significantly
more
in
the
short-term
options:
they're
moving,
curves
changing
infrastructure
in
significant
ways,
the
low
automobile
level
of
service
is
maintained
unless
a
roundabout
isn't
if
a
roundabout
is
installed,
level
of
service
will
go
up
for
all
users.
There'll
be
less
wait
time
for
all
users,
whereas
if
The
Pedestrian
scramble
is
installed,
wait
time
will
increase
for
all
users.
A
That's
the
same
at
all.
The
interceptions
alternative
to
has
parallel
parking
and
I
should
have
noted
that
parallel
parking
is
a
significant
decreased
risk
of
crash
for
all
users
and
a
decreased
risk
of
Crash
severity
for
cyclists
over
angled
parking,
Class,
2
class
4
bike
Lanes
throughout
the
airspace
behind
the
trees
and
re-utilize,
and
the
curb
line
pulled
up
has
a
slight
increase
in
the
loss
of
motor
vehicle
parking
of
12,
which
is
offset
by
94
bicycle
spaces
and,
as
I
said,
it
does
cost
more
with
the
significance.
A
A
It
converts
the
angle
parking
to
parallel,
which
increases
The,
Pedestrian
space
for
art,
bike
parking
and
other
uses,
and
it
has
a
moderate
cost.
In
the
long
term,
staff
recommends
the
alternative
to
and
the
further
consideration
of
roundabouts
or
pedestrian
scrambles
at
Castro
and
church
and
Castro
and
mercy
intersections.
This
design
supports
both
pedestrians
and
icicles.
A
It
increases
bike
Lanes
throughout
the
project
area
and
Converse
parallel
parking
from
angled
lowering
crash
risk.
It
increases
that
and
reallocates
that
pedestrian
space
for
our
bike
parking
and
other
uses.
However,
it
does
have
our
highest
cost
if
a
long-term
option
is
pursued,
staff
is
recommending
to
move
the
trees
in
the
short
term.
A
I
B
Hi,
just
a
couple
of
tiny
questions:
I
hope
when
I
just
was
I
think
looking
at
a
different
just
what
it
was
presented
now,
long-term,
both
long-term
Alternatives
had
more
than
the
seven
spaces.
Is
that
incremental
I
know
you?
You
have
an
asterisk.
That
said,
all
scenarios
will
involve
losing
seven
automobile
parking
spots
on
the
long-term
Alternatives
I
think
it
was
10,
and
something
else
is
that
three
additional
over
not
10
more
over
the
seven
right.
F
B
A
B
The
seventh
Big
Ten-
it's
not
ten
more
on
top
of
that
great
thank
you
and
then
our
and
and
are
the
short
and
long
term
scenarios
mutually
exclusive,
or
if
my
original
understanding
from
reading
this
was
that
what
do
we
want
to
do
short
term
and
then
what
do
we
want
to
do
long
term,
and
this
is
all
moving,
hopefully
towards
long
term?
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
thank
you!
Thank
you.
That
was
what
I
thought.
Thank
you.
That's
all.
I
Right
member
Stone.
J
Yeah,
sorry,
if
you
have
covered
this
before
I'm
curious,
could
you
clarify
a
little
bit
about
alternative?
Three,
you
said
would
be
more
dangerous
for
pedestrians
and
I'm
wondering
why
that
is
yeah.
A
Well,
we
would
never
say
an
alternative
is
more
or
less
dangerous,
but
alternative
free
lowers
the
crash
risk
for
pedestrians
because
it
provides
protection
against
the
left
turn.
So
motorists
do
not
have
pedestrians
Crossing
when
they're
making
a
left
turn
and
many
crashes
occur
when
a
motorist
is
making
a
left
turn,
and
so
this
adds
the
additional
phase
time
so
that
pedestrians
cannot
cross
when
motorists
are
going
and
Motors
cannot
go
when
pedestrians
are
crossing
and
it
eliminates
those
types
of
crashes.
Okay,.
C
I
heard
that
in
the
long
term
the
crosswalks
would
be
raised.
Does
that
not
occur
in
the
short
term.
C
H
So
for
that
first
block
at
the
top
I
guess
it's
the
900
or
something
Block
near
El,
Camino
that
we
plan
to
do
regardless
of
all
the
other
options.
F
D
You
are
a
mute,
a
couple
of
questions
like
you,
though
you
can
take
them
in
the
order.
That
seems
most
logical
to
answer
so
number
one
was
the
roundabout
at
California.
It
didn't
indicate
green
paint
and
I'd
like
more
detail
on
what
the
expected
movements
for
bicycles
would
be
through.
The
roundabout
number
two
would
be.
F
A
So
this
is
what
we're
proposing.
This
is
a
feasibility
study,
so
this
does
not
mean
that
this
is
what
would
show
up
in
the
design.
But
if
this
is
approved,
the
the
designers
would
be
directed
to
take
an
approach
that
looks
like
this,
and
this
approach
is
based
off
of
Massachusetts
dots
designed
for
protected
roundabouts,
which,
to
my
knowledge,
is
the
most
detailed
and,
in
my
opinion,
most
protective
version
of
a
roundabout
and
the
way
that
the
bicycle
travels.
I
It's
very
faint
I
think
because
the
high
resolution
display
it's.
A
Hard
I
think
I
can
I
could
use
highlighter
Maybe.
D
So
basically,
the
green
paint
stops
because
it
becomes
a
protected
area
at
that
point.
Yes,.
A
Now
the
this
would
be
the
path
of
travel
and
it
reduces
the
conflict.
Points
I
can't
remember
how
many
are
are
presented
in
a
traditional
intersection,
but
it
reduces
them
quite
a
bit
to
just
to,
and
it
gets
the
rider
inside
of
the
field
of
vision
of
the
driver
very
quickly,
we're
fortunate
that
we
have
enough
space
to
We
Believe
to
something
like
this
in
that
area.
A
If
we
would
probably
we
would
be
allowed
to
install
green
paint
and
I'm
sure
we
would
in
the
crossing
areas
that
let
me
switch
back
to
my
highlighter
that
would
be
here
and
here
it
only
does
it
once
so.
We
would
put
not
inside
of
the
triangle,
but
right
here,
and
here
is
where
we
would
very
very
likely
put
green
paint.
Our
current
standard
for
bike
crosswalks
is
to
put
green
paint
and
I
do
not
see
why
that
would
not
apply
in
this
case.
D
Okay
and
then
I
guess
to
expand
on
the
question
on
Crossing
California
on
the
south
side
that
cyclists
have
an
easy
option
to
stay
in
the
lane
of
travel
as
opposed
to
taking
the
protected
Bikeway
bring
it.
D
No,
would
they
be
able
to
stay
with
the
cars?
Let's
say:
they're
assuming
they're
traveling
yeah.
D
From
the
top
from
both
directions,
but
primarily
from
the
top,
where
either
they
have
to
use
the
crosswalk
to
cross
Castro,
Street
or
use
the
traffic
going.
D
If
you're
coming
from
a
shoreline,
okay
heading
all
the
way
through
California
Street,
okay,
would
you
have
the
option
of
staying
in
the
automobile
lane
of
travel
assuming
you're
at
approximately
the
same
speed
as
the
automobiles
versus
using
the
retracted
bike
lane,
which
may
have
to
slow
up
and
merge
with
pedestrians
when
Crossing
castle
by.
A
Law,
you
would
have
the
ability
to
take
the
lane
if
you
wanted
to
and
what
this
these
provided.
You
a
gap.
If,
if
that
is
how
California
is
protected,
if
California
is
protected
at
all,
it
might
just
be
a
conventional
bike
lane.
You
would
be
able
to
leave
the
bike
lane
and
enter
into
the
motor
vehicle
into
the
motor
vehicle
roundabout.
However,
you
know
we
would
recommend
that
you
utilize
the
protections
provided
in
the
bike
lane.
D
D
A
A
A
That
brings
us
in
compliance
compliance
with
fire
code,
and
then
it
also
allows
for
us
to
provide
a
full
door
swing
with
from
the
parking
to
the
rideable
bike
space,
which
is
five
feet.
Those
trees
that
are
located
here
along
this,
this
area,
they're
pretty
much
right,
you
can
sort
of
see
them
would
be
within
one
foot.
They
would
be
on
exactly
where
the
the
new
curb
is
and
that
root
systems
will
not
obviously
tolerate
being
on
literally
on
the
curb.
A
So
the
trees
would
have
to
be
moved
to
the
center
of
the
median
three
to
five
feet
and
they
are
forced
to
physically
went
out
and
inspected
every
individual
tree,
and
it's
recording
that
all
of
them
can
be
moved
if
they're
moved
soon
and
they
will
still
be
able
to
live.
D
Got
it
so
I
think
the
photographic
overlay,
their
shows
two
roads,
two
rows
of
trees
with
plantings
in
the
middle
and
the
one
row
would
be
closer
to
the
center
line
as
I
understand
it.
D
Okay
and
then
the
final
question
was
related
to
member
Stones
question
about
the
increased
protection.
What
specifically,
is
the
phase
change
on
which
intersection
was
that
reference
to,
because
I
think
church
and
Castro
already
has
full
phase
protection
for
pedestrians.
I
A
J
D
Yes,
I
I
know
I
understand
because
I
I
thought
it
was
adding
when
it's
actually
removing
an
alternative
tree
that
was
being
referenced.
So
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
Okay,
I
had
one
question
that
had
not
occurred
to
me
as
a
question
during
the
original
or
during
written
questions.
Was
the
the
original
motion
to
ask
about
angle
versus
parallel
parking
in
the
April
2021
meeting
also
include
sort
of
was
raised
in
with
and
included,
potentially
removing
parking
lots
together
to
for
safety
or
for
simplifying
design
or
whatever
was
removal
of
car
parking
entirely
considered
for
either
the
short
or
long
term
designs.
G
Hello
here,
I
was
wondering
if,
when
considering
moving
to
parallel
parking,
also
the
alternative
of
reverse
angle,
parking
was
discussed.
Reverse
angle
means
that
the
car
is
backing
up
in
Reverse
into
the
angle
parking
and
that
decreases
the
bicycle
risk
drastically,
because
when
you
leave
it,
then
when
you
leave
the
parking
spot
with
the
car,
you
sit
on
the
left
and
you
look
to
the
left
that
reduces
the
risk
and
when
you
back
up
into
it,
everyone
on
the
car
speed
has
to
stop
anyway,
and
you
have
to
make
clear
signals
with
the
backing
code.
G
Reverse
signal,
and
it
might
be
possible
here
in
this
case,
if
the
trees
allows
it
and
in
general
I'm
in
favor
of
reducing
the
eight
phase
that
hurt
s
Castro
Crossing
to
less
fewer
phases,
because
the
eight
phases
are
not
needed
there.
Well.
Thank
you,
foreign.
H
G
G
A
I
may
add,
additionally,
with
the
trees,
we
made
a
an
effort,
a
pledge
almost
to
not
affect
the
trees
that
are
in
the
parking
area.
I
think
they
would
be
not
well
tolerated
by
the
public,
but
I,
don't
think
back
back
in
angled
parking
will
be
tolerated
by
the
public
anyway,
but
especially
adding
an
obstacle.
A
It
would
not.
It
would
probably
not
last
very
long.
E
Thank
you,
I
will
rush
through
these
and
Brandon
for
the
sake
of
your
sanity.
I
will
send
these
all
to
you
by
email
these
topics,
so
you
don't
have
to
madly
write
these
down
as
I
talk
through
them
and
also
there's
a
lot
of
detail
here.
So
I
hope
that
you
might
have
already
covered
some
of
these.
E
So
don't
worry
about
that.
So
you
talked
about
the
trees
can
be
moved
if
they're
moved
soon.
So
my
question
is:
how
soon
can
they
be
moved
so
that
that
process
can
happen?
E
The
the
Lumix
property
in
particular,
looks
like
it
might
be
cut
off
there,
I
assume
that
the
businesses
have
been
consulted
to
make
sure
that
they're
content
with
the
changes
that
will
happen
and
the
California
Castro
roundabout
is
its
own
CIP
project
right.
So
I'm
not
sure
why
that
would
be
discussed
as
part
of
this
I'd
like
to
some
clarification.
There
I
agree
with
lada's
comment
about
race
crosswalks.
That
could
also
be
similar
to
what
might
happen
at
Evelyn
at
Celia.
Palmer
brought
up
at
an
earlier
meeting.
E
I
agree
with
Holger
about
the
Castro
Church
intersection
being
sort
of
phased
to
the
max
when
it's
such
a
small
intersection,
as
it
is
I
try
to
avoid
that
intersection
myself
at
all
times,
so
keeping
it
less
complex
is
great
if
the
speed
limit
can
be
brought
down
throughout
I'm,
not
sure
what
it
is
right
now,
but
even
down
to
20
or
something
would
be
great,
just
slow
everybody
down.
So
we
don't
need
to
worry
so
much
about
safety.
Question
about
loss
is
that
for
all
modes.
E
I
was
not
clear
on
that
and
Brandon
I
think
we
talked
about
this,
but
the
underlying
maps
are
out
of
date,
doesn't
show
the
structures
that
are
there
currently
and
then
bike
racks
are
needed
on
that
South
End
of
California
Street,
given
the
plans
for
the
PED,
mall
I'm
sure
that's
been
considered,
but
the
more
bike
racks
at
that
North
End
of
the
project,
the
better
and
then
I
I
trust
that
you've
taken
into
account
the
Castro
Commons
plans
down
at
El,
Camino
and
Castro,
even
though
they're
still
flushing
those
out
we're
expecting
that
those
will
come
to
fruition
eventually
and
that's
all
I
got
and
again,
Brandon
I'll
send
you
some
notes
on
this.
E
I
Just
to
pull
up
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
heard
in
there
to
have
staff
response:
how
soon
would
the
trees
be
moved
or
could
they
if
we
were
try
aiming
to
move
them
soon?.
A
I
Okay,
since
it's
useful
for
our
own
discussion
is,
is
the
California
Street
intersection
part
of
this
world.com
later
as
a
separate
CIP
item
versus.
A
I
A
It's
definitely
still
in
flux,
and
the
downtown
precise
plan
takes
into
account
a
potential
closure
of
pheromone,
and
that
is
sufficient
enough
for
our
planning
purposes,
but
just
to
be
clear,
the
downtown
precise
man
takes
into
account
the
closure
closure
of
Vermont.
That
does
not
mean
that
it
would
itself
close
Vermont.
It
would
be
a
development
that
would
have
closed
Fairmont.
The
city
would
not
be
going
out
of
its
own
way
to
close.
Furthermore,.
I
All
right,
thank
you,
I
think
that
closes
the
questions
we
had
in
public
comment.
Member
comments
with
which
I
assume
there
are
many.
C
All
right,
let's
see,
maybe
to
just
back
up
what
Bruce
said
and
I
think
Holger
too
about
the
and
I've
brought
this
up
in
previous
meetings
that
Castro
and
church
intersection.
Please
please
get
rid
of
the
eight-way
signal.
I
mean
I,
think
you
can
say
that
it's
an
improvement
and
that,
theoretically,
if
everyone
waited
for
their
eighth
turn
on
that
signal
that
it
would
be
safer.
C
However,
my
jaywalking
has
increased,
like
a
thousand
percent
changed
and
I
think
it
would
be
wise
or
you
know,
advisable
to
do
a
study
or
something
just
to
go
out
there
for
a
few
minutes
and
see
how
many
pedestrians
are
waiting
for
the
walk
signal
before
declaring
that
it's
a
that
it's
safe
for
for
pedestrians.
I
could
be
wrong
on
this,
but
just
from
like
casual
observation,
I
think
it
increases
jaywalking
and
might
not
be
needed.
C
The
other
thing
is
I've
said
in
sorry
about
this,
like
so
many
ask:
Mountain
View
tickets,
for
whatever
reason
my
bike
is
not
picked
up
at
that
intersection,
so
a
simplification
so
like
it's
not
detected,
and
this
has
been
true
over
a
long
period
and
it's
just
this
intersection
like
somehow
for
other
intersections.
It
works
even
ones
that
aren't
marked
as
like
bike
like
stand
here,
like
it
picks
up
my
bike.
C
E
C
Like
getting
rid
of
the
eight
face
signal,
but
maybe
that's
not
the
main
point
of
this
discussion-
I
went
there
this
morning
it
kind
of
walked
along.
Maybe
that's
not
the
high
AI
traffic
time
for
Castro,
but
the
traffic
was
very
light
and
in
particular
it
was
very,
very
light
between
mercy
and
California.
C
So
when
we're
talking
about
we're
going
to
be
moving
trees-
and
you
know,
there's
like
a
long-term
alternative
and
so
on,
given
that
there's
so
few
cars
I
mean
maybe
I
have
to
go
back
during
lunch
or
something
to
see
like
a
lot
of
cars
going
on
that
section
of
Castro,
but
really
like.
Where
are
they
going?
They
have
to?
They
can't
go
straight.
They
have
to
turn.
C
If
that
is
going
to
be
very
low,
like
utilization
by
cars,
then
I
wonder
if
we
can
take
like
Bruce's
suggestion
of
like
slowing
things
down
what,
if
we
made
it
like
Shadows
or
kept
to
the
shadow,
but
somehow
made
the
cars
be
guests,
so
everyone
can
use
that
section
and
cars
can
go
there,
but
they
really
should
feel
like
they're
guests
and
I
for
moving
trees.
I
appreciate
that
the
and
they
know
more
than
I
do,
but
you
can
move
the
tree
and
it
might
survive,
but
cork
Oaks
normally
grow
to
60
feet.
C
If
you
move
the
tree
and
you
sever
its
roots-
and
you
stress
it
out,
those
trees
are
not
going
to
grow
the
same
way
that
they
would.
If
we
leave
them
now,
I
mean
leave
them
in
the
ground,
so
I
would
not
support
the
long-term
alternative
to
move
the
trees.
I
would
prefer
something
that
instead
slowed
things
down
sufficiently
so
that
all
modes
can
exist
within
the
ex
existing
structure.
C
Overall,
I
think
switching
to
parallel
parking
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
That's
great
and
yeah.
Just
to
reiterate
the
raised
crosswalks,
like
still
that
section
between
I
guess
like
where
Yosemite
comes
out,
a
lot
of
school
kids
come
out
there,
I
guess,
probably
a
stop
sign
was
considered
and
rejected,
so
I
think
the
least
we
can
do
is
like
make
it
bumpier.
So
it's
not
this.
Like
very
long,
uninterrupted
stretch
for
cars
and
then
the
last
thing
I
mean.
C
Maybe
this
is
more
for
the
Arts
committee,
but
whenever
I
see
like
random
art,
I
know,
I
know
it's
like
well-intentioned,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
a
bonus
to
have
things
like
you
know
some
balls
that
have
been
painted
in
a
like
if
it's
cohesive,
if
it
has
a
theme,
if
it's
like
really
well
thought
out,
but
to
just
saying
like
we're
going
to
improve
things
by
sticking
art
there
I'm
not
sure
that's
always
the
case,
but
there
are
other
people
who
who
deal
with
that
and
more
bike
parking
sounds
great.
C
So
sorry,
so
the
longest
comment
ever
I
think
I'm
for
alternative
for
in
the
short
term
and
no
long-term
alternative
kind
of
making
the
short-term
work
and
then
whatever
happens
with
the
roundabout
at
California.
You
know
kind
of
worry
about
it.
Then
thanks.
I
All
right,
Vice,
chair,
Stone
and
I
think
member
Dominic
did
end
up
getting
all
the
questions,
but
it's
reminded
there
are,
it
does
sound
like
there
are.
There
are
three
questions
that
we're
trying
to
be
hit
on
so
yeah.
J
J
Don't
know
if
it's
confusion
about
The,
Pedestrian
law
or
other
things,
but
it
does
seem
like
it's
a
super
long
way
and
also
I
have
had
trouble
getting
that
like
to
signal
on
my
bike
so
much
that
I
go
through
Mercy
now,
if
I'm
going
across
Castro,
so
yeah
I
can
I
can
back
up
both
of
those
comments.
J
I'm
thinking
about
the
the
kind
of
the
the
area
with
the
median
between
I
think
mercy
and
California.
What
I
don't
like
about
the
short-term
military,
alternative
and
I?
Don't
know
if
there's
any
solution
to
this,
but
the
problem
with
the
15
foot
travel
Lane
with
the
sharrow
is
that
it's
fine
if
the
cyclist
takes
delaying
and
the
motorist
is
patient
and
they
ought
to
be
patient
because
there's
not
really
anywhere
to
go
right.
J
But
the
observation
is
that
a
lot
of
cyclists,
especially
young
cyclists,
stay
to
the
right
as
much
as
possible
and
there,
even
though
there
is
no
safe
way
for
a
motorist
to
pass
a
cyclist
on
a
15-foot
travel
Lane,
it
still
happens,
I've
seen
it
happen,
I
had
the
thought
of
narrowing
it
to
11
foot
and
putting
Planters
or
something
but
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
trigger
barcode,
and
then
you
have
to
make
a
20-foot
I,
don't
know
I,
guess
I'm,
saying
I'm
conflicted
I
mostly
prefer
alternative
to.
J
It
looks
really
good,
but
I'm,
worried
about
that
intersection
and
about
the
15-foot
travel
Lane
I
should
say
clarify
the
short
time
alternative
too.
B
Thank
you,
chair,
I've,
wanted
to
just
say
thank
you
for
this
I'm.
Taking
this
back
to
the
drawing
board.
I,
really
appreciate
that
that
it
looks
to
me
that
you
really
did
listen
to
both
the
downtown
committee
and
bpac
comments
from
the
prior
meetings
and
those
team
really
well
Incorporated,
and
that
is
greatly
appreciated.
B
Thank
you
so
much
I'm
generally
as
someone
who
probably
walks
more
than
I
bike
around
the
Bay
Area
I'm
generally,
a
fan
of
the
eight
phase
approaches
I
know
that
we
had
to
change
it
right
in
Shoreline
that
so
now
people
don't
get
to
buzz
me
for
fun
when
I'm
walking
through
the
intersection
and
making
a
left-hand
turn,
which
was
a
regular
occurrence
before
as
a
pedestrian.
B
So
I
really
do
appreciate
those
I'm,
not
sure
that,
like
others,
that
it's
required
at
this
place
at
this
location,
but
it
is
already
installed
and
I,
really
appreciate
the
effort
that
staff
went
through
to
research
what
it
might
look
like
to
remove
that
infrastructure
and
other
Alternatives
I
think
what
is
proposed
here
is
seems
to
me
very
safe
for
both
the
short-term
and
long-term
I
appreciate
both
Alternatives
I,
believe
it
was
the
staff
recommendations
of
alternative
to,
for
short
and
for
alternative
to
for
long
term.
B
I
support
both
of
those
I
believe
I
I,
like
first
of
all,
I
mean
as
committee
has
asked
you
several
times
like.
What
can
we
do
quickly
and
what
can
we
do
longer
term
and
keeping
that
long-term
in
vision-
and
this
is
an
outstanding
example
of
just
that-
a
short
term
that
flows
into
a
long-term,
better
Improvement,
so
often
I
find
in
City
committees
and
other
city
meetings.
Many
of
us
are
looking
for
the
perfect,
as
opposed
to
the
much
better,
with
a
way
to
get
better
long
term
and
I
think
this.
B
What
you've
proposed
here
get
gets
us
to
much
improved
to
even
better
in
the
future.
I
appreciate
you
working
and
partnering
with
the
forestry
service
on
the
trees,
if
they
must
be
moved,
I
appreciate
their
advice
on
whether
or
not
it's
safe
to
do
so
and
and
also
I,
just
I
I
I'm
feeling
very
contradictory
tonight
with
member
of
Dominic,
which
is
unusual
but
I
love,
art,
City,
Art,
I,
that's
another
and
I
realize
what
you've
presented.
There
are
just
examples
and
I
know
that
what
I've
seen
the
city
do.
B
Otherwise,
when
I
see
some
of
the
examples
and
thought
I
don't
really
like
that
sample,
like
it
Castro
moffatt
cash
room
off
at
Central,
where
I
think
it's
100
Moffitt
is
that
apartment
complex?
What
was
in
the
original
drawings
I
was.
F
B
Oh
I
really
don't
like
that,
but
what
was
created
is
actually
very
pleasant.
I
enjoy
enjoy
it
when
I'm
waiting
to
cross
the
intersection
there,
so
I
really
I
would
defer
I
know.
City
staff
will
always
works
with
the
other
art
committee
and
other
committee.
Sanitation
get
a
nice
installation,
so
I
do
appreciate
that,
and
the
short
answer
is
thank
you.
So
much
and
I
agree
with
staff
recommendations.
I
D
Are
off
me?
Okay,
thank
you.
So
my
comments,
I
guess,
generally
aligns
with
both
alternative
to
short
and
long
term
I'm
not
stuck
to
the
Alternatives.
However,
so
let
me
say
indicate
my
priorities
and
I
I
think
it
should
be
an
evolutionary
incremental
approach,
especially
in
the
long
term.
So
number
one
priority
I
would
say
would
be
removing
parallel
parking.
D
That's
almost
a
tie
for
removing
the
angle
parking
just
to
facilitate
flow
with
the
caveat,
the
specific
measurements
and
details
of
the
space,
especially
at
California
and
Castro,
and
if
one's
considered
it
the
other
intersections
evaluating
that
as
well,
because
I
think
that
is
a
step
toward
changing
expectations
and
in
combination
with
the
changes
to
El,
Camino
and
Foods
Castro
mall
I
think
people
will
start
to
Envision
get
used
to
different
things.
D
I,
don't
necessarily
need
the
bike
lane
the
full
way,
but
I
do
I
agree
with
that
member
Stone's
comments
about
15
foot
and
cyclists,
who
are
shy
and
not
near
the
center
of
the
road,
encourage
almost
unsafe,
behavior
and
getting
past.
D
So
if
you're,
asking
for
the
specific
question
alternative
to
both
short
and
long-term
would
be
my
Foundation,
if
you
have
flexibility
and
are
still
looking
at
looking
at
options
and
moving
removing
angle,
Parking
Way
number
one
reduce
the
roundabouts
at
California
Street,
also
a
higher
priority
and
exploring
them
at
the
other
intersections
as
well.
D
The
8
phase
signal
I,
think
you
know
I'm
neutral
on
that
I
think
people
find
a
way
around.
It
Crossing
at
other
alternate
points
to
avoid
long
glaze
when
they
can
and
like
it
was
mentioned.
If
it's
severe
people
are
going
to
ignore
the
signals
anyway.
Those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
I
All
right,
I
think,
once
I
make
my
comments,
we
will
given
that
I'm
not
sure
we're
in
perfect
alignment
and
probably
be
in
order
to
make
some
motions
to
make
be
clear
about
what
we
are
and
are
not
supporting
I
for
the
short-term
alternative,
I
generally
like
alternative
too,
given
that
it
requires
some
shares.
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
look
at
what
we
can
do
to
lower
the
speed
of
traffic,
at
least
in
those
sections,
if
not
along
the
whole
section
of
Castro
Street,
whether
that
is
merely
via
posted
speed
limits
or
by
speed
pumps
or
race.
Crosswalks
I,
don't
know
how
much
that
would
raise
the
cost
of
the
project,
but
it
feels
it
all.
I
Those
feel
in
line
with
the
magnitude
of
the
other
changes
being
considered
and
don't
feel
like
they
would
drastically
change
any
of
the
designs
I
for
the
short-term
alternative.
I
am
fine
with
not
messing
with
the
these
signals
or
the
such
I.
I
do
have
my
quibbles
with
church
and
Castro,
but
in
the
name
of
sort
of
making
sure
our
project
can
go
through
sooner
rather
than
later.
I
am
I'm
content
with
it.
I
The
longer
term
Alternatives
bother
me.
They
are
it.
It
feels
like
in
some
spots
the
amount
we
are
making
a
lot
of
comp.
We
are
making
too
many
compromises
for
safety
in
the
name
of
keeping
a
few
extra
car
parking
spaces.
I
I
I
do
not
see
any
door
buffer
Mart
on
the
long-term
approaches
or
on
the
long-term
plans,
for
the
approaches
to
Cal
to
Church
Street
from
either
side,
and
so
those
would
still
be
door
zones
and
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
the
we're
talking
about
a
very
small
number
of
car
parking
spaces
compared
to
just
the
bicycle
traffic
on
the
street
and
even
especially
compared
to
the
number
of
car
parking
spaces
even
on
the
same
blocks
as
this
project.
I
Like
the
city
hall
garage,
the
private
garages,
the
God
I,
don't
even
know
what
all
which
old
garages
are
public
versus
private
I
know.
The
Downtown
parking
strategy
is
looking
at
trying
to
give
more
public
access
to
some
of
the
private
garages.
I
This
is
we're
looking
at
what
represent
is
in
it's
a
tiny
number
of
people
in
terms
of
usage
compared
to
what
is
already
from
the
traffic
Council
presented
back
in
the
April
2021
meeting,
a
substantial
number
of
people
bicycling
down
this
road
and
an
order
of
magnitude
even
more
than
that
of
people
walking
down
the
road
or
not
down
the
road,
but
through
the
intersections
and
I
expect
the
number
of
people
biking
walking
this
area
to
increase
even
more
with
the
Castro
Commons
project,
with
the
that
sabrato
commercial
project
over
the
old
Wells
Fargo
site,
with
anything
else
that
gets
put
up
and
so
I.
I
It
feels
like
the
long-term
alternative,
for
somebody,
that's
being
taught
that
we
would
have
as
a
plan
for
seven
to
twenty
years
out
is
not
doing
enough
to
prioritize
safety
on
the
road,
and
it's
my
impression
is
that's
because
it's
doing
we're
putting
too
much
effort
and
too
many
resources
to
preserve
the
car
parking,
although
perhaps
I
am
missing
something
there,
but
I
mean
among
Alternatives
one
and
two
I
prefer
alternative.
Two
I
am
thrilled
that
we
are
at
least
looking
at
turning
the
angular
parking
into
parallel
parking
yeah.
I
B
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
support
medium-term
shorts
to
medium
term,
alternative
to,
as
recommended
by
staff,.
B
I
would
like
to
amend,
withdraw
my
motion
and
amend
my
motion.
I
would
like
to
move
that
we
accept
staff
recommendation
of
short
to
medium-term
alternative
to
with
the
addition
of
consider
methods
to
reduce
speed
where
there
are
share
rows.
D
I'll
second,
that
New
Motion.
Thank
you.
C
C
I
Yeah
all
right,
then,
shall
we
have
a
a
vote
on
this.
All
in
favor
of
the
the
motion
from
member
Fenwick
hi.
B
I
I
see
four
in
favor
all
except
remember:
Dominic
all
opposed.
C
I
And
that
leaves
no
abstentions.
That
motion
passes
four
to
one
I
believe
there
was
also
a
long-term
alternative
question
foreign.
B
Discussion
on
whether
or
not
to
do
long-term
options,
I
think
just
to
express
another
comment:
I
think,
as
it
is
longer
term
I
would
expect
the
city
to
revisit
it
as
condition
change,
I,
I,
think
by
our
chair
kushma.
You
mentioned
a
number
of
developments
that
made
change
conditions.
So
I
was
thinking
of
emotion,
along
a
move
to
recommend
staff
to
staff
staff
recommendation
of
long-term
alternative
to
with
the
caveat,
to
consider
changes
as
conditions
and
development
change
in
the
area
and
bring
it
back
to
bpac,
if
required.
B
Something
like
that.
That's
what
I
think
that
wasn't
an
official
motion.
Yet
that
was
just
something
because
that
I'm
trying
to
like
sense
what
I
heard
from
other
members
is
that
we're
a
little
nervous
about
the
long-term
motion,
not
knowing
what
might
happen
in
the
future.
C
I
One
thing
I
would
be
curious
about
with
regards
to
moving
the
trees
is
whether
if
we,
if
the
car
parking
along
that
section
of
Castro
Street
did
not
exist,
would
that
provide
enough
right-of-way
to
build
a
bike
lane
without
needing
to
spend
the
money
and
effort
to
move
the
median
and
I?
Don't
know
if
that's
a
question
that
can
be
answered
quickly,.
H
I
A
I
We
were
to
remove
the
car
parking
along
Castro
Street
by
the
sections
that
would
need
the
median
moved
under
the
current
long-term
alternatives
when
removing
the
car
parking
remove
the
need
to
move
the
median
and
thus
make
it.
So
we
didn't
have
to
move
the
trees
in
that
shorter
time
frame
or
or
say.
A
A
A
A
Okay-
and
that
is
if
this
eight
feet
was
then
allocated
we're
needing
five
feet
from
the
center
median.
Therefore,
we
would
get
eight
feet
plus
three,
five
E
plus
three-
for
a
total
of
eight
from
the
car
parking.
We
would
still
have
to
either
move
the
median
here
or
move
the
curve
here,
because
you
can
see
that
it
bottlenecks
at
the
Curve
I
believe
that
should
answer
your
question.
A
Is
the
different
situation
in
the
next
spot?
Because
there
is
no
parking
there
and
in
that
next
block
up,
you
would
either
have
to
shrink
the
sidewalk,
which
is
still
an
option
in
this
one.
It's
not
what
we're
proposing,
because
you
have
to
do
it
on
the
other
side
or
you
have
to
shrink
the
median
or
a
combination
of
the
two.
I
I
B
So
I,
if
I'm
hearing
things
kind
of
write,
what
I'm
here,
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
it?
The
sentiment,
is
if
anything
could
be
done
to
not
move
the
trees
would
be
great,
but
like
remove
car
parking.
Is
that
so
I'm
thinking
of
emotion,
maybe
I'll,
make
the
motion
I
would
move
to
accept
long-term
alternative
to
with
consideration
or
changing
conditions
with
the
major
developments
coming
in
the
area
and
asking
staff
to
please
consider
removing
parking
along
all
parking
along
the
median
where
the
trees
would
have
to
be
moved.
J
Can
I
just
just
to
clarify
in
my
mind
what
else
is
in
long-term
versus
short-term
alternative
to?
There
was
moving
the
curb
for
the
parallel
parking
to
where
the
cars
are
or
something
like
that
or
what
I
I'm
sorry
I
forgotten.
I
Yeah
sorry
just
keep
us
reasoning
or
I'll.
Second,
the
motion,
but
I
I
went
to
hear
the
discussion
from
vice
versa.
I
So
you're
asking
what
other
changes
there
are
in
the
long-term
Alternatives
beyond
the
short-term
alternatives.
I
A
A
So
I'm
going
to
bring
up
Ash,
porch
long-term
alternative
one
and
very
quickly
go
through
that
on
what
possible
changes
are.
Are
there
well?
Actually,
let
me
let
me
focus
on
alternative
to
YouTube.
You
guys
don't
seem
to
have
interest
in
alternative
one,
so
here
alternative,
so
here
the
curved
line
would
relocate
to
become
in
front
of
the
current
trees,
where
the
current
trees
are
in
the
parking
area.
That
would
be
a
significant
change,
a
significant
change
as
presented.
I
So
I
also
wanted
to
ask
I,
don't
know
what
the
right
answer
is,
but
I
wanted
to
include
some
there's
still
sections
around
the
intersection
nature
in
the
long
term,
around
the
intersection
of
church
and
Castro
that
have
the
bike
lane
in
the
door
Zone
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
any
long-term
proposal
address
that
one
way
or
another.
I
Obviously,
removing
the
car
parking
would
address
that
I.
There
may
be
other
Alternatives,
but
if,
if
you
would
accept
a
I
guess
friendly
Amendment
to
the
motion
to
asked
staff
to
to
address
the
fact
that
the
long-term
alternative
would
contain
would
put
a
bike
lane
through
the
door,
Zone
I
would
well
enough.
B
B
Thank
you,
Brandon.
Were
you
able
to
capture
that.
B
Fantastic,
so
that
some
thank
you,
so
you
seconded
yeah.
J
Can
I
ask
clarifying
question
or
so
I
guess
the
the
recommendation
is
to
consider
either
a
pedestrian
scramble
or
a
roundabout
I'm
very
opposed
to
a
pedestrian
scramble,
but
I
don't
know
if
supporting
this
motion,
as
is,
would
I
mean
it's
it's
an
ore,
so
I
guess
I'm
not
clear
what
supporting
the
motion
means
in
this
context.
I
My
interpretation
would
be
elite
would
be
at
leaves
that
that
question
open,
but-
and
we
could
make
additional
comments
after
this.
J
I
All
right
seeing
no
further
comments
on
this
motion.
It
would
be
in
order
to
make
a
vote
on
the
motion
regarding
the
long-term
alternatives.
B
I
Hi,
it
appears
to
be
unanimous
all
right,
any
additional
comments
or
emotions
that
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
formal
motions,
I
I,
don't
think
I
think
the
main
priority
was
that
we
used
to
get
the
short-term
alternative
and
anything
related
to
the
trees.
But
if
we
want
to
make
it
motions,
we
are
free
to
do
so.
So.
D
I'll
come
and
pleased
with
emotions
and
supported,
but
both
I
guess
I
might
want
to
emphasize
the
thought
that,
especially
as
we
evolve
toward
the
long
term,
removing
parking
I
think
becomes
more
feasible
and
tolerable
as
people
get
used
to
new
approaches
and
we
didn't
go
back
and
discuss.
D
You
know
if
fairmont's
closed,
adding
parking
there,
but
I
would
rather
recapture
that
space
for
something
other
than
parking
term,
but
I
think
perceptions
will
likely
change
as
the
incremental
improvements
of
The
Pedestrian
Mall
changes
on
El
Camino
potential
roundabout
at
Castro
and
other
developments
come
in.
I
I
think
the
long-term
favors
walking
and
smooth
transitions
for
bicycles,
so
I
think
we've
supported
that.
E
C
Maybe
following
on
Terry's
example,
just
thinking
for
the
long
long
term
I
think
we
could
arrive
at
a
state
where
cars
are
guests
and
proceed
slowly
and
cautiously
in
this
entire
stretch,
and
so
maybe
just
not
to
overdo
it
with
like
building
very,
very
separate
infrastructure.
If
there's
like
a
long-term
thing,
where
it's
like
oh
shoot,
maybe
we
could
have
kept
the
trees
if
we
thought
of
things
a
little
differently
where
everyone
is
like
going
at
walk
or
bike
Pace,
or
something
like
that.
So
yeah.
D
Autos's
guest
is
common
in
European
cities
with
you
know
timed
bollards
that
stop
traffic
at
popular
pedestrian
times
so
again
in
the
long
term.
Those
are
the
types
of
things
that
were
made.
Consider
and
it's
that
it
avoids.
You
know
putting
concrete
to
formalize
infrastructure.
That's
going
to
look
unusual
10
years
later.
We
should
those
Investments
and
keep
flexibility.
I
All
right,
if
there
aren't
any
more
comments
and
since
I
think
we
addressed
these
staff
questions
I
will
move
us
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
bpac
members
manual.
H
Okay,
is
everyone
seeing
that
great,
so
I'm
going
to
be
providing
an
update
on
the
menu
members
manual?
Most
of
you
have
seen
something
along
these
lines,
so
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
skim
over
the
key
items
today.
H
H
H
H
Next
month
we
will
be
moving
back
to
in-person
meetings
and
this
is
still
in
flux.
But
when
I
put
this
presentation
together,
the
plan
was
that
you
would
be
meeting
in
the
atrium.
H
In
any
case,
you
will
be
meeting
at
500
Castro
Street,
which
is
where
City
Hall
is
and
you'll
either
be
in
the
atrium
or
the
plaza
conference
room,
and
there
are
still
some
things
being
figured
out
in
terms
of
which
room
and
whether
there
might
be
a
hybrid
option,
but
at
this
stage
let's
assume,
there's
no
hybrid
option
and
that
it's
fully
in
person,
but
we're
still
working
on
some
things.
H
In
the
background,
the
so
in
terms
of
the
basic
format,
the
format
is
similar
to
what
we
had
today
with
you
know
your
genderized
items,
work
plans
and
updates
for
each
item
generally.
The
the
process
is
that
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
Then
we
have
clarifying
questions
and
staff
responses
and
then
public
comment
and
then
be
pack,
emotions
and
discussion
and
also
the
the
meeting
follows
the
brown
act.
H
So
it's
very
important
to
to
follow
the
brown
act
and
I
think
that
everybody
has
been
briefed
well,
I,
think
the
new
people
have,
or
new
person
has
been
briefed
individually
by
the
attorney's
office
this
this
year.
So
that's
a
new
development
that,
instead
of
coming
and
briefing
you
all
you
get
that
individually.
H
H
So
please
be
careful
with
anything
that
I
mean
when
we
send
things
as
staff,
we'll
put
you
all
as
BCC,
but
if
things
come
through
from
the
members
of
the
public,
just
be
very
careful,
it's
you
know
just
you
can
reply
to
that
person
or
you
can
reply
to
staff,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
put
it
in
BCC,
but
that's
kind
of
the
easiest
way
to
run
into
problems
with
this
idea
of
Syria
real
Communications,
and
so
this
is
just
the
process.
H
When
we
get
correspondence
we
the
bccu
on
those
items,
oh
and
back
in
the
day
we
had
hard
copies.
We
haven't
been
doing
that
since
it
since
covert
in
terms
of
the
work
plan.
So
you
we
have
the
work
plan
that
we'll
be
discussing
in
the
next
item.
There's
two
rays
of
altering
the
work
plan.
H
One
is
through
changes
that
happen
once
a
year
and
there
is
another
process
that's
outlined
in
Council
policy
a23,
it's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
if
they're,
if
the
change
involves
additional
work
for
the
city,
so
that's
kind
of
the
general
process
by
which
our
work
plan
you
know,
changes
to
the
work
plan
occur,
oh
a
little
more
items
there
and
then
at
the
at
the
the
members
manual.
We
provided
some
reference
material
to
help
you
as
you
kind
of
grow
in
your
role
as
as
advisory
committee
members.
H
So
some
of
the
links,
some
of
the
items
include
City
Links
links
to
legislation
or
things
that
may
Monday
become
legislation
like
Pro
work,
there's
links
to
key
plans
and
policies.
So
you
can
refer
to
that
if
you
need
to
refer
to
them
when
you're
reviewing
certain
things
and
then
various
standards,
guidelines
and
standards
and
also
academic
literature,
and
then
there's
also
a
glossary.
So
hopefully
those
items
are
useful.
As
you
fulfill
their
duties
as
vpac
members,
and
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
city.
I
E
Thank
you
chair
new
chair,
Bruce,
England,
whisman,
Station,
Drive
yeah,
just
a
couple
of
things
so
I
know
it's
not
part
of
the
handbook,
the
hybrid
meetings
but
Ria
since
you
brought
it
up.
Members
of
the
public
are
really
hoping
to
continue
the
public-facing
hybrid
meetings,
which
means
using
the
atrium
room.
Obviously
the
plaza
room
right
now
is
not
set
up
for
this.
E
So
just
letting
you
know,
if
you
don't
already
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
out
here
in
the
community
to
continue
these
meetings,
we're
already
running
into
some
problems
with
a
few
like
the
senior
advisory
committee
and
BRC,
because
they
choose
to
use
the
senior
center
and
the
community
center
on
rengsdorf,
but
otherwise
we
ought
to
be
able
to
make
this
work
as
long
as
there's
not
a
conflict
in
time,
so
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there
also
I
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
address
it
here,
I'm
interested
in
talking
about
it
with
somebody
perhaps,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
slack
channels
that
we
use
in
the
advocacy
front
out
here,
and
it's
really
useful
to
discuss
things
share
information
and
things
like
that.
E
But
we
try
to
be
very
conscious
of
the
brown
act
too,
and
yet
we
do
like
to
have
involvement
from
members
of
bpac
where
they
feel
comfortable
participating
in
there.
So
I
don't
know
kind
of
flexibility.
We
might
have
around
that,
but
some
guidance
might
be
useful
there
and
then
lastly,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
safe
routes
to
school
covered
in
the
handbook,
but
of
course
there's
review
of
the
Capital
Improvements
program,
items
for
sure
and
the
police
department
and
all
that,
but
with
safe
routes
to
school,
ramping
up
now,
post
coved.
I
B
I
just
want
to
say
a
great
big
thank
you.
This
is
very
useful.
I
did
go
through
and
read:
judge
rosenberg's
Rules
of
Order
and
I
appreciate
that
reference
being
on
other
committees
using
Robert's,
Rules
or
other
rules.
They
are
a
lot
more
even
archaic
than
and
difficult
to
follow.
B
So
I
really
appreciated
that
I
and
when
I
first
joined
bpac,
we
didn't
have
a
manual
like
this,
so
I
know
I'm
feeling,
like
you
know,
but
I
really
really
appreciate,
just
like
in
particular
like
how
to
get
items
on
the
work
plan.
Why
we
do
what
we
do
makes
a
lot
more
sense
with
this
manual.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
and
I
did
want
to
just
comment
on
as
well.
Like
I
I
saw
on
our
Brown
act
training.
B
There
was
a
lot
of
I
know
the
system
Brown
act
topic,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
information
specifically
on
social
media
even
like
liking
posts
from
each
other
and
as
someone
who
does
like
to
stay
current
on
what's
Happening
I
know
I'm
a
member
of
some
email
list
where
they
talk
about
like
developments,
it
might
post
like
something
from
like
the
newspaper
or
something
it
really
helps
me
keep
up
on
all
the
different
news
sources
and
but
I
know
that
can
be
a
problem
if
we
have
more
than
two
members
or
something
maybe
on
a
group.
B
I
Yeah,
if
there's
nothing
else,
we
can
move
on
to
item
6.5
our
fiscal
year,
2022
to
2023
work
plan.
H
J
A
You
but
Philips
for
you
to
chime
in
if
you'd
like,
as
as
our
normal
process,
I
highlight
what
has
changed,
and
so
let
me
go
through
that.
A
Here
is
a
case
of
pastoral
bike
feasibility
study,
which
we
were
aiming
to
bring
to
you
in
November,
but
we
did
delay
one
vpac
meeting
and
brought
to
you
today
bicycle
pedestrian
dashboard.
We
aimed
to
bring
it
in
Fall
of
22
and
we
did
that.
That
is
a
typo.
A
A
A
Because
of
that,
and
because
some
of
the
deadlines
we're
going
to
have
a
special
meeting
with
the
chairs
approval
on
Thursday,
the
13th
of
April,
and
in
that
meeting
we'll
cover
TDA
3A
Article
28
article
refunding
they
will
have
a
recommendation
for
you.
Based
off
your
input
that
you
provided
to
us
in
the
November
meeting.
A
You
will
notice
that
we
are
going
to
split
out
the
active
Transportation
Improvement
funding
from
that
process
and
we're
splitting
that
out
due
to
workload
concerns
of
our
staff.
In
order
to
give
you
a
quality
set
of
options
and
recommendations.
We
have
to
know
what
the
cost
estimates
are
and
we
need
to
have
staff
in
order
to
generate
those
cost.
Estimates
and
those
staff
are
I
believe
in
the
close,
are
very
close
to
being
hired.
A
Cip
development
will
bring
to
you
that
meeting
and
then,
as
per
your
direction,
you'd
like
to
draft
a
plan
a
little
bit
earlier
than
it
has
to
be
approved
and
so
we're
bringing
that
in
April
it
Still
Remains,
The,
Joint,
meaning
for
safe
routes
to
school,
with
Los,
Santos
and
April
and
in
our
final
Collision
review.
D
So
question
the
active
Transportation
plan
scheduled
for
next
month
does
that
have
any
impact
on
some
of
the
other
items
you
mentioned,
where
they're
both
TDA
article
3
funding,
I
sort
of
assume
not
but
the
other
one
says
active,
Transportation
Improvement
fundings:
can
you
describe
any
relationships
between
those.
B
A
I
can
but
the
timings
is
not
there.
So
while
there's
definitely
a
relationship
between
the
ATI
funds,
tda3
funds,
the
CIP,
all
of
those
three
items
have
to
be
I
guess
ATI
does
not
have
to
be,
but
you
probably
want
it
to
be
addressed
before
the
completion
of
the
active
Transportation
plan
and
the
active
Transportation
plan
is
about
a
year
away
from
being
done
all
three
of
those
items
you
would
want
to
address
now
now
the
active
Transportation
plan
will
set
up
for
possibly
next
year
and
definitely
the
year
after.
I
All
right
any
public
comment:
I
do
not
see
any
hand
raised
from
the
public,
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
committee.
I
If
there
are
any
comments
and
I
recall,
we
had
some
discussion
during
the
Collision
thing
about
the
work
plan.
But
maybe
that's
just
me
remember
or
did
you
still
have
your
hand
up
for
to
comment
or
just
okay,
great,
remember,
Dominic,.
C
F
C
I
Okay,
yes,
yes,
go
ahead.
Valerie.
B
I
I
believe
right
now
this
is
our
already
approved
work
plan
and
Brandon
is
showing
us
just
some
updates
in
the
changes.
This
is
we're
not
voting
on
a
new
work
plan
that
will
come
to
us
in
gone
there
somewhere
a
little
earlier
than
normal
I
I.
B
Just
I
I
will
say
this
again
and
I
will
probably
say
it
again
when
we
create
our
new
work
plan,
having
been
on
the
B
pack
and
attending
bpec
meetings
for
more
than
a
decade
prior
vpeg
meetings,
I
was
there
in
the
conference
room
when
the
Collision
data
was
not
presented
on
a
regular
basis,
it
became
difficult
to
access
when
there
were
development,
for
example,
when
this
Council
Transportation
committee
would
meet
that
data
was
not
available.
This
is
in
the
past.
This
is
different.
B
Staffing
Resources,
different
stuff,
different
members
of
the
police
department,
but
historically
having
on
a
quarterly
basis,
keeps
the
data
collection,
Fresh
So.
When
the
data
is
needed,
it
is
available
when
it's
been
reduced.
In
particular,
that
was
a
major
change
we
made
to
the
work
plan
in
the
past
was
to
have
near
missed
data
reported
as
part
of
this.
The
near
Miss
data,
which
was
being
reported
by
the
constituents
was
not
making
it
in
front
of
bpac,
was
not
accessible
by
bpac
was
not
findable
by
bpac
or
the
member
of
the
public.
B
Everything
is
a
lot
better
than
what
we
had
before,
which
was
people
coming
as
members
of
the
public
to
be
pack
and
talking
about
their
near
misses,
and
then
they
may
or
may
not
have
been
captured
in
our
minutes
and
wouldn't
be
there
for
consideration
in
the
future.
In
this
way
that
data
is
collated,
so
I
I
think
this
is
I
appreciate
this.
My
understanding
need
for
an
extra
meeting.
B
I
All
right
memory,
Dominic.
C
Sorry
or
maybe
Brandon
could
clarify,
but
we're
not
talking
about
whether
the
data
will
be
collated
or
gathered.
That's
already
there
and
there's
a
public
like
web
page
where
it
is
plus
like
now
this
additional
dashboard
so
I
think
no
one's
saying
like
this
data
is
going
away.
C
It's
just
and
again,
thank
you
for
the
reminder
that
this
isn't
the
time
to
change
the
work
plan,
we're
just
talking
about
how
often
it's
presented
at
bpac,
not
the
existence
of
the
data
or
its
availability
to
the
public
or
the
way
that
we
can
retrieve
it
now,
which
is
at
any
time
through
an
interface.
I
Prior
to
mirror,
would
this
be
value?
Would
this
be
a
reasonable
discussion
to
have
when
the
draft
work
plan
comes
forward.
B
I
think
so
I
I
I
would
we
can
have
it
at
that
time,
I'm
just
saying
when
it
was
not
presented,
it
was
not
collected
and
the
like.
When
we
had
a
because
of
timing
and
covet
it
didn't
get
presented
for
a
while.
The
old
data
wasn't
there
and
it
was
onerous
for
staff
and
police
to
collect
and
they
did,
but
it
is
having
a
presentation
helps
to
keep
the
data
fresh.
I
Okay,
I
do
not
see
anything
additional
for
the
work
plan
and
tend
to
stitch
into
West
item
I.
Guess
we
will
move
to
item
6.6.
The
VTA
bpac
update.
C
Right:
okay,
that's
me!
It
did
meet
Stacy
Banerjee
from
Los
Altos
was
re-elected
as
chair.
Betsy
makers
from
Santa
Clara
was
re-elected
as
Vice
chair,
so
they
do
things
differently.
If
people
want
to
yeah
serve
longer,
they
can
and
the
one
item
was
this
tfca,
which
is
Santa
Clara,
County
transportation
fund
for
clean
air,
which
is
about
2.2
million
annually.
C
That
is
collected
based
on
a
four
dollar
surcharge
on
vehicle
registration.
We
were
only
updated
on
how
the
projects
were
doing
their
new
Mountain
View
projects.
It's
mostly
San
Jose
Santa
Clara.
There
was
one
Los
Gatos
bike
project
I
so
about
there
were
about
20
signal
timing
projects
and
I
finally
bothered
to
look
at
what
these
things
are
and
why
they're
related
to
clean
air,
and
it
turns
out
that
some
consulting
firm
once
did
a
back
of
the
envelope
calculation
and
said
well.
C
No
thought
to
inducing
demand
increasing
the
number
of
vehicles
if
they
have
faster
travel
times
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
showed
up
I.
You
know
it
was
like
who
can
I
talk
to
about
this?
This
is
outrageous
because
in
fact,
so
these
projects
I
think
spanned
years.
There
was
4.1
million
on
Signal
retiming
about
one
and
a
half
million
on
Transit
improvements
like
shuttles
and
Signal
priority
for
Transit,
but
then
there
were
only
about
I,
think
500k
for
bike.
Improvement
things
out
of
all
this
money,
which
I
I
was
ready
to
fight.
C
I
was
kind
of
outraged
and
I
was
like
who
do
I
write
about
this
and
they
were
like.
Actually
you
know
they
just
changed
the
criteria
this
year
and
because
of
the
things
you
mentioned,
that
no
one
thought
about
induced
demand
or
the
fact
that
this
could
actually
increase
submissions,
so
I
mean,
although,
like
improving
signal,
timing
is
probably
good.
C
It
probably
shouldn't
have
been
coming
out
of
this
pot,
so
this
pot
now
has
different
criteria
and
so
I
don't
know
if
Mountain
View
is
planning
to
apply
for
it,
but
hopefully
there'll
be
more
chance
of
getting
bike
improvements
and
maybe
ped
improvements
to
funded
from
this,
and
that's
it.
I
Thank
you,
I
guess
any
questions
from
the
committee.
D
C
H
You
yeah
I
can
respond
to
that,
so
it
applies
to
both.
Actually,
we
received
tfca
funds
A
couple
of
years
ago,
but
not
on
the
list,
because
we
already
spent
it
and
got
reimbursed.
That
was
for
the
bike
racks
that
you
see
around
town
and
then
we
also
were
awarded
a
fund
in
the
last
last
year's
funding
for
the
charging
infrastructure
for
the
shuttle.
J
F
I
I
Anyways
I
see
no
further
comments.
We
will
move
to
the
staff
presentation
item.
7.1
assume
there
is
one,
although
I
do
not
know
that
for
sure.
H
Yeah,
that's
me.
Let
me
just
share
my
screen
again,
so
we
do
not
have
an
update
on
the
ask
mvs
this
month
that
will
we'll
consolidate
that
next
time
and
bring
that
to
you,
then
foreign,
okay,
so
in
terms
of
Staff
updates
a
couple
of
things,
we
have
a
community
meeting
on
the
2nd
of
February
That's
Thursday
at
6
p.m.
H
It's
a
joint
meeting
between
Mountain
View
and
the
City
of
Sunnyvale,
on
Bernardo
Avenue
under
Crossing,
and
so
we'll
be
kind
of
trying
to
narrow
down
the
preferred
alternative
on
each
side.
It's
taken
a
very
long
time
to
get
Caltrans
a
Caltrain.
Sorry
Caltrain
input
on
you
know
their
exact
standards
now
that
they're
electrified
and
so
or
in
the
process
of
being
electrified,
so
that
now
that's
been
pinned
down
and
so
we're
hoping
to
narrow
down
the
options
of
that
meeting
or
at
least
move
towards
narrowing
them
down.
H
When
we
go
to
council,
Brandon
is
working
on
the
active
Transportation
plan
and,
and
there
is
a
advisory
committee
that
is,
you
know,
part
of
that
we're
looking
for
a
representative
from
bpac
and
also
from
the
disability
community.
So
if
this
is
of
interest
to
any
of
you
or
anyone
that
you
know,
please
email
him
on
that
issue
and
then
a
couple
of
other
updates.
So
we
have
started
the
infrastructure
portion
of
the
secrets
to
school
program.
H
H
If
you're
interested
in
participating
or
getting
details
on
those
please
email,
priority
and
final
update.
Is
that
we're
organizing
a
smart,
smart,
cycling
training,
so
smart
cycling
is
like
one-on-one
course
on
bicycle
safety
skills.
So
if
you
want
to
improve
your
bicycle
safety
skills,
this
would
be
useful
for
that.
H
It
also
serves
as
the
prerequisites
for
becoming
a
league
cycling
instructor
and
getting
the
certification
as
an
LCI,
and
so
the
training
will
be
happening
from
9
till
11
on
Tuesday,
the
11th
of
April,
and
that
is
the
kind
of
the
theory
portion
which
is
you
can
either
come
to
the
city
hall
or
do
it
online.
H
The
second
part
is
the
in-person
part
with
you
know,
being
on
your
bikes
and
that
it
will
be
on
Wednesday
the
19th
of
April,
and
this
is
something
that
is
offered
by
the
American
bicycling
league
and
in
the
in
Silicon
Valley.
The
Silicon
Valley
Bike
Coalition
is
actually
putting
this
together
for
City
staff,
the
staff
from
various
different
agencies.
That's
why
it's
a
daytime
training,
and
so
we
hope
to
get
good
turn
out
at
this.
H
If
there's
anybody
that
you
think
would
be
interested
in
participating,
please
let
me
know
we're
particularly
interested
in
people
who
speak
Spanish,
Chinese
or
Russian,
and
people
who
could
be
affiliated
with
the
school
districts.
Who
are
you
know,
PE
teachers,
for
example,
and
who
would
like
to
become
an
LCI?
We
could
really
do
with
this
for
our
safe
routes
to
school
program.
Thank
you.
H
I
You
all
right
was
that,
oh
for
that,
okay,
so
that
was
all
for
the
presentation,
member
questions,
number
Fenwick.
B
I
just
had
a
and
I
I
it.
You
may
not
be
able
to
give
this
now
I.
You
gave
a
legislative
update
previously
and
I'm,
seeing
some
new
interpretations
of
ab20
and
97,
which
removes
the
minimum
car
parking
for
new
developments
that
in
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
our
number
of
bicycle
parking
spots
required
for
new
developments
is
tied
to
the
number
of
car
parking
spots,
which
are
no
longer
required.
I
wasn't
sure
if
staff,
if
that's
still,
if
that's
currently
under
analysis
by
staff,.
H
H
C
Okay,
sorry,
maybe
this
already
got
answered
I'm
just
wondering
so
the
Bernardo
under
Crossing.
It
seems
like
it's
likely
to
happen.
Timing
wise,
like
is
it
likely
to
happen
before
improvements
on
Evelyn
or
like
how
I
mean
we
might
have
this
great
under
Crossing,
but
not
sure
how
we'll
get
there.
H
I'm
not
sure
how
to
say
this
diplomatically,
but
when
it
involves
other
agencies
like
Caltrain,
it
may
take
longer
so
I
think
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
in
our
improvements
on
Evelyn.
You
know
to
sort
of
be
at
least
sync
up
with
this.
F
E
Thank
you
chair.
Just
two
really
quick
things:
I
I
know
that
you
were
going
to
do
an
ass,
Mountain,
View
report
back
at
the
next
meeting,
but
I
just
want
to.
E
Let
you
all
know
that
I
am
in
I've
had
a
conversation
with
Brandon
about
this,
but
I'm
also
talking
with
Community
Services
of
the
parks,
division
about
monitoring,
Trail
speeds
and
the
reason
I
asked
the
question
about
that
with
them
is
because
there's
potential
for
putting
some
kind
of
a
monitoring,
automated
monitoring
system
along
the
trail
as
a
pilot
project,
and
so
I
wanted
to
see
how,
especially
with
the
e-bikes
now
around
and
about
how
they're.
E
Looking
at
that,
so
I
got
a
really
good
response
back
from
Brenda
Sylvia
I'll
share
that
with
Brandon.
You
know
offline
as
a
starting
point
with
other,
with
members
too,
if
you're
interested
in
my
describing
that
to
you
and
also
some
discussion
about
bike
safety.
Training
for
people
who
are
stopped
by
the
police
instead
of
getting
a
ticket
because
we
really
want,
is
not
to
make
them
suffer
by
pulling
money
out
of
their
wallets,
but
by
actually
becoming
better
at
using
the
roadways.
E
Of
course,
we
want
our
drivers
to
be
better
drivers
too,
but
drivers
can
go
to
driver
school.
You
know
safety
school,
but
bike
riders.
Don't
get
that
same
option
so
asking
questions
around
currently
to
see
what
we
might
be
able
to
come
up
with
I'm,
mainly
talking
with
Mike
Canfield
at
PD,
so
he's
looking
into
this,
but
I
don't
have
information
back
from
him
just
yet
on
this
again.
If
anybody
wants
to
talk
to
me
about
it,
just
let
me
know
thanks.
I
I
I
Nope
lovely,
then
we
move
to
the
time
and
date
of
the
next
meeting,
which
will
be
Wednesday
February
22nd
at
6
30
PM.
Unlike
our
meetings
for
the
past
three
years,
it
will
be
in
person
at
City
Hall
and
with
that
I
believe
we
get
to
adjourn
the
meeting
before
9
pm.