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Description
Live Teleconference of the Meeting of the City of Mountain View's Rental Housing Committee
B
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
September
25
2023
rental
housing
committee
meeting.
If
you
are
joining
in
person
with
our
hybrid
environment,
we
no
longer
can
accept
recordings,
except
unless
they're
sent
in
advance
by
4
30
on
the
meeting
date.
And
additionally,
we
ask
speakers
to
line
up.
We
no
longer
ask
speakers
to
line
up
on
an
item
and
instead
we
ask
speakers
to
turn
in
a
card
in
advance
to
Andrea
just
to
the
staff,
and
your
name
will
be
called
so.
B
So
I'm
going
to
squeeze
into
this
agenda
item
one
announcement
that
we
have
an
opening
on
the
rental
housing
committee
and
applications
are
due
by
September
28th.
This
Thursday
at
5
pm
and
the
City
website
provides
more
information
about
how
to
apply.
Thank
you.
B
So
next
is
our
consent,
calendar
and
these
will
all
be
approved
together.
Unless
anyone
wishes
to
a
pull
an
item,
do
we
have
a
slide
of
our
consent?
Calendar.
B
E
B
I
did
not.
Is
there
any
online
or
in-person
public
comment
on
the
consent
calendar?
C
F
B
B
Moving
on
okay
next
is
oral
Communications
and
again,
if
you're
in
person,
and
would
like
to
speak
at
Oral
Communications
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
B
H
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening,
I'd
like
to
you
guys,
can
hear
me
all
right.
I
can
see
the
clock
started.
I'd
like
to
start
with
a
comment,
a
general
comment
to
the
committee-
and
this
applies
to
some
more
than
others.
But
the
only
thing
worse
than
being
blind
is
having
sight
with
no
vision
and
comments
when
talking
about
rubs,
for
example,
that
I'm
not
going
to
pay
any
attention
to
water
conservation
or
something
to
that
effect
is
definitely
an
example
of
having
sight
without
Vision.
H
So
I
ask
that
you
all
keep
that
in
mind
when
you're
I
mean
the
position
the
committee
is
there
for
the
vision
quote
unquote
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View
so
and
while
we're
talking
about
rubs
I
agree
that
there
are
people
that
are
being
charged
more
than
the
csfra
allows.
There
are
Provisions
in
the
csfra
for
those
people
to
file
a
petition.
Yet
that
seems
to
be
being
ignored
and
jumping
past
that
to
try
and
come
up
with
some
option.
One
option:
two
option:
whatever
is
being
considered.
H
I
I
think
it's
kind
of
clear
why
people
have
filed
petitions.
They
have
not
been
heard
and
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
because
of
the
the
shortcoming
of
the
csfra
and
and
how
it
relates
to
to
rubs,
there's
no
way
to
have
a
petition
process,
because
you,
you
can't
answer
any
of
the
questions.
So
so
my
my
comment
is
to
spend
time
clarifying
what
needs
to
be
clarified,
so
the
provisions
the
existing
Provisions
within
the
csfra
can
be
used.
There
are
people
that
that
their
rubs
charges
exceed
the
csfra
rules.
H
There
are
more
people
that
that
is
not
the
case.
So
it's
it's.
Only
the
the
provisions
in
the
csfra
are
there
to
be
used,
let's
use
them
and
and
if
it's
not
clear
on
how
they
can
be
used.
Let's
clarify
that,
let's,
let's
not
jump
to
some
thought
that
hey
this
option
is
better
than
that
option.
Let's
use
the
provisions
that
exist
and
and
let
the
people
who
are
experiencing
what
they
feel
is
is
ingest
charges.
Let
them
use
the
the
provisions
and
and
petition,
as
as
the
as
as
the
the
document
describes.
I
Yeah
hi
I
request
I
requested
some
extra
time
and
there
should
be
other
people
on
the
call
that
are
yielding
their
time.
So
do
I
just
need
to
tell
you
that
and
start
talking
or
yes,.
A
I
Okay,
thanks
yeah
rhc
I'm
here
with
my
colleagues
representing
the
renters
of
mountain
View's,
Mobile
Home,
Park,
Mobile
Homes,
the
renters
and
Mountain
View's
mobile
home
parks,
rent
both
their
homes
and
the
space
from
the
park
owner,
there's
roughly
200
to
tell
the
actual
number
registry,
where
seniors
disabled
folks,
families
with
children,
blue
collar
workers,
white
collar
workers
and
ethnicities
and
immigrants
of
all
types.
These
folks
are
the
lifeblood
of
Mountain
View.
I
They
make
Mountain
View
what
it
is
we're
here
tonight
to
tell
you
that
the
mobile
home
ordinance
is
currently
structured,
which
was
written
to
prevent
displacement
and
keep
folks
in
their
home
is
not
working
as
intended
after
two
onerous
cycles
of
five
percent
increases,
which
remain
in
effect
until
August
31st
of
next
year.
On
top
of
what
are
already
the
highest
rents
in
the
country,
residents
are
facing
unsustainable,
impractical
Rim
increases
at
this
rate
in
20
years,
rents
will
be
over
nine
thousand
dollars
a
month.
I
In
essence,
the
mobile
home
ordinance
is
ill-equipped
to
keep
folks
in
their
homes
long
term,
which
was
the
whole
intent
of
passing
the
ordinance.
Now
landlords
may
claim
that
rent
control
is
hurting
them.
So
let
me
refute
that
claim.
Let's
take
a
look
at
how
the
current
legal
regime
sustains
an
ongoing
windfall
for
landlords
under
current
federal
state
and
local
law,
landlords
received
the
benefits
of
Prop
13,
which
caps
the
increase
in
the
assessed
value
of
their
properties
at
two
percent
annually.
They
receive
tax
deductions
on
their
tax
returns,
which
are
not
available
to
renters.
I
They
receive
preferential
treatment
on
mortgages
which
are
not
available
to
folks
who
don't
own
land.
They
are
guaranteed
a
current
two
percent
AGA
floor,
which
they
can
pass
honduraners
even
in
a
deflationary
environment
or
in
a
market
with
high
vacancy
rates,
and
they
can
take
advantage
of
a
built-in
mechanism
in
the
current
law,
which
allows
landlords
to
request
rent
increases
beyond
the
AGA
if
they
feel
they're
making
insufficient
profit
now
think
about
that
for
a
minute.
There's,
not
a
single
industry
or
Market
segment
anywhere
in
the
country
that
receives
such
a
comprehensive
set
of
guarantees.
I
The
current
ordinance
is
putting
residents
on
a
path
that
is
simply
not
sustainable,
and
it's
incumbent
upon
staff
and
the
rhc
to
ensure
the
council
is
well
aware
of
these
deficiencies,
so
the
ordinance
can
be
fixed.
We're
recommending
the
following
enhancements:
first:
accelerate
the
time
frame
for
lowering
the
AGA,
which
is
currently
set
for
spring
of
2025
in
the
housing
element
to
the
spring
of
2024
before
the
next
AGA
cycle
starts.
I
If
that
doesn't
happen,
folks
could
see
almost
16
percent
cumulative
increases
over
a
25-month
period
due
to
compounding,
if
Council
doesn't
address
this
issue
until
2025
and
that's
on
top
of
rents
that
are
already
the
highest
in
the
country.
Two
rethink
the
current
model,
which
sets
the
AJ
in
the
future,
based
on
trailing
12-month,
based
on
a
trailing
12-month
inflation
rate
under
the
current
regime,
folks,
whose
leases
renew
in
August
of
2024
will
receive
five
percent
increases,
even
though
inflation
at
that
time
might
be
different
or
even
zero
or
deflationary.
I
It's
a
broken
model
that
incorporates
historic
inflation
rates
recorded
as
many
as
31
months
ago
for
some
folks,
third
Antioch
enrichment.
Recognizing
this
issue
recently
passed
a
rent,
Control
Ordinance
with
an
annual
cap
of
3
percent
or
sixty
percent
of
CPI.
Whichever
is
less
with
no
floor
and
there
are
numerous
rental
communities
throughout
the
state,
Santa
Ana,
Inglewood,
Beverly
Hills,
with
similar
agas,
so
Mountain
View
would
not
be
blazing
a
new
Trail
here.
Fourth
consider
adopting
rent
caps.
If
your
rent
is
a
thousand
dollars,
five
percent
might
be
manageable.
I
If
it's
four
thousand
five
percent
is
like
adding
a
car
payment
to
your
limited
budget
every
month,
compounded
year
after
year,
they
just
percentage
increases
just
don't
work,
we're
in
areas
that
have
the
highest
rents
in
the
country
like
Mountain
View,
five
roll
the
base
rent
back
to
a
year
in
alignment
with
the
csfra
for
the
csfra,
which
was
passed
in
2016.
The
base
rent
date
for
apartment
dwellers
was
set
to
October
of
2015,
but
for
the
mobile
home
ordinance
we
got.
We
got
it
set
back
six
years
later
to
March
of
2021..
I
I
Landlords
are
raising
rents
as
high
as
legally
allowed,
irrespective
of
market
conditions
simply
because
they
can
and
because
they
know
it's
difficult
for
renters,
especially
the
elderly,
to
move
eight
approach,
the
landlord
about
buying
the
rental
homes
and
turning
them
into
affordable
housing.
There's
money
in
the
housing
element
to
do
this.
The
homes
are
far
less
expensive
than
building
new
housing
from
scratch,
and
the
landlord
is
signaled
to
the
city
they're
open
to
the
idea.
I
I
We
believe
it
appropriate
that
the
rhc
draft
a
letter
to
council
conveying
this
feedback
from
the
public
with
a
recommendation
to
seriously
consider
implementing
the
enhancements
alluded
to
above,
and
we,
as
you
take
this
issue
up
at
your
next
meeting
in
October
when
you
have
a
work
plan,
discussion
schedule,
otherwise
folks
will
continue
to
be
displaced
and
our
community
will
suffer.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
work
you
do
and
for
doing
your
best
to
help
Mountain
View's
mobile
home
renters.
Thank
you.
E
Yes,
I
may
I
ask
a
question
of
the
person
who
just
spoke.
Could
you
repeat
your
name
again
and
also
tell
me,
are
you
speaking
on
behalf
of
an
organization
like
the
Mountain
View
Mobile
Home
Alliance
or
just
are
you
speaking
your
own
personal
opinion.
I
I'm,
a
little
nervous
about
landlord
retaliation
I
do
participate
in
the
Mountain
View
Mobile
Home
Alliance,
as
do
the
other
five
people
on
the
line
that
well
five
people,
including
myself,
who
yielded
their
time
to
me
to
speak
on
this
issue.
We're
all
renters,
we've
all
been
active
in
trying
to
get
something,
that's
fair
to
everyone,
and
we
feel
the
current
ordinance
is
not
working
and
that's
why
we
put
this
letter
together
in
hopes
that
both
the
rhc
and
Council
would
hear
us
enact.
E
I
Although
we
did
speak
about
this
in
Saturday's,
Mountain,
View,
mobile
home
Alliance
meeting,
but
I'm
only
comfortable
saying
the
five
of
us
on
the
line
right
now,
sorry.
I
B
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
take
just
a
really
quick
break
and
ask
for
some
technical
assistance
with
my
screens.
B
D
B
B
Before
we
get
started,
rhc
members
are
required
to
disclose
any
Communications
they
have
had
with
any
of
the
parties
to
the
petition
or
the
party's
representatives
and
the
substance
of
those
Communications.
Since
the
date
the
petition
was
filed.
The
decision,
the
RAC
of
the
rhc,
is
to
be
based
on
the
record
presented
to
the
hearing
officer.
Information
disclosed
to
an
rhc
member
that
is
not
part
of
the
record
is
not
to
be
considered
in
the
hearing
to
any
rhc
members
have
ex
parte
communication
that
they
need
to
disclose.
B
A
B
Okay
and
then
online
speakers,
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
raise
hand
to
speak,
no.
J
Thank
you.
We
can
go
to
the
first
slide.
J
J
We'll
first
talk
about
the
rental
housing
committee's
decision
process,
including
the
role
of
the
rental
housing
committee,
the
scope
of
your
decision,
as
well
as
the
dis
decision
process
visualized
for
those
who
are
visual,
Learners
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
schedule
for
the
appeal
hearing
and
then
finally,
we
will
cover
the
petition
and
a
summary
of
the
tentative
appeal
decision.
J
So
for
questions
of
fact,
the
rental
housing
committee
must
determine
whether
or
not
each
appealed
element
of
the
hearing
officer's
decision
is
supported
by
substantial
evidence.
In
doing
so,
you
are
not
re-weighing
the
evidence
or
re-litigating
the
issues.
The
appeal
is
based
on
the
records
submitted
to
the
hearing
officer.
The
parties
are
not
permitted
to
submit
new
evidence,
and
this
does
not
mean
that
you
have
to
reach
the
same
conclusion
that
the
hearing
officer
did
in
reviewing
the
evidence
in
the
record.
J
So
staff
does
not
recommend
a
de
novo
Hearing
in
this
case
that
would
require
a
new,
formal
hearing,
representation
of
all
of
the
evidence
by
the
parties.
This
requires
significant
time
to
prepare
for
the
rental
housing
committee
and
the
existing
evidence
is
sufficient.
As
far
as
the
facts
go,
they
tend
to
be
pretty
Undisputed
in
this
in
this
case,
and
the
existing
record
demonstrates
adequate
review
and
ample
opportunities
for
the
parties
to
present
relevant
evidence.
J
There
is
one
piece
of
the
decision
that
staff
is
recommending
be
remanded
to
the
hearing
officer
for
further
briefing,
and
we
feel
that
the
hearing
officer
is
better
positioned
to
make
a
determination
on
that,
after
additional
briefing
from
the
parties,
as
well
as
Gathering
additional
evidence
and
research
versus
the
rental
housing
committee,
making
that
decision.
J
So
the
petition
defines
the
scope
of
the
hearing
officer
decision.
In
this
case,
the
petition
was
for
a
downward
adjustment
for
failure
to
maintain
the
premises
due
to
a
lack
of
hot
water,
and
that
is
what
the
hearing
officer's
decision
just
made.
A
decision
about
the
appeals
of
the
hearing
officer's
decision,
our
limit
limit,
the
scope
of
the
rental
housing
committee's
review
on
appeal.
So
that
means
that
you
can
only
consider
the
things
that
are
being
appealed
by
the
appellant.
J
As
I
mentioned,
this
is
for
those
who
are
visual,
Learners
I.
Don't
I
won't
go
over
this,
but
you
can
see
what
the
process
is
here
all
right.
So
the
schedule
for
the
appeal
hearing
the
chair
has
already
taken
public
comment
and
there
was
none,
so
the
we're
getting
into
the
actual
hearing
part
right
now
we're
in
staff's
presentation.
After
we
conclude
our
presentation,
the
appellant
will
have
an
opportunity
to
present
and
they
will
have
10
minutes
to
do
so,
followed
by
The
respondent.
J
Who
will
have
10
minutes
and
then
the
appellant
can
do
a
rebuttal
for
five
minutes
and
then
the
respondent
for
five
minutes,
and
then
the
rhc
can
ask
questions
of
Staff,
the
appellant
or
the
respondent.
And
finally,
the
rhc
will
deliberate
and
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
to
affirm
or
modify
the
tentative
appeal
decision.
J
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
petition
was
a
petition
for
downward
adjustment
of
rent
for
failure
to
maintain
a
habitable
premises
due
to
a
lack
of
hot
water.
J
This
is
a
summary
of
petition
timeline
just
here
for
your
informational
purposes,
not
super
relevant
to
the
actual
decision
to
be
made.
You
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
So
to
summarize,
the
hearing
officer's
decision,
the
hearing
officer
concluded
based
on
the
evidence
in
the
record
that
between
November
12
2022
and
the
date
of
the
petition,
the
maximum
water
temperature,
as
measured
from
the
faucet
in
the
tenants
unit,
failed
to
reach
100
the
120
degree,
minimum
required
by
health
and
safety
code.
Section
114192.
J
J
J
So
on
appeal,
the
appellant
landlord
raises
five
issues.
The
first
issue
is
that
the
appellant
was
not
permitted
into
the
pre-hearing
conference
until
1
30
PM,
even
though
the
pre-hearing
conference
was
scheduled
to
begin
at
1pm.
The
second
is
that
the
hearing
officer
relied
on
an
inapplicable
section
of
the
health
and
safety
code
in
reaching
his
decision.
J
Okay,
so
there's
two
parts
to
the
tentative
appeal
decision.
The
first
part
affirms
the
hearing
officer's
decision
in
part
based
on
the
following.
The
appellant
provides
no
support
that
the
pre-order
hearing
conference
was
started
without
her
presence
and,
in
fact
the
hearing
officer's
notes
and
comments.
In
the
in
the
hearing
decision
indicate
that
it
did
not
start
until
1
20
p.m,
and
all
parties
were
let
in
at
that
time
and
also
does
not
State
how
that
affected.
J
The
outcome
of
the
petition
appellant
also
provides
no
support
that
the
method
of
testing
from
the
faucet,
which
is
what
their
maintenance
used,
was
more
accurate
than
tenants
plastic
container
method.
The
hearing
officer
found
the
tenants
method
to
be
reliable
after
a
line
of
questioning
as
to
how
the
tenant
was
measuring
the
water
in
temperature
in
the
plastic
container.
J
Third,
testimony
by
both
parties
at
the
hearing
supports
the
hearing
officers
interpretation
that
the
landlord
reimbursed
the
tenant
for
a
portable
heater.
Also,
this
issue
has
raised
on
appeal.
The
appellant
doesn't
really
indicate
how
this
affects
the
out.
The
ultimate
outcome
of
the
decision
and,
finally,
the
hearing
officer
actually
reached
their
same
conclusion
regarding
the
water
heater
temperature
and
found
that
there
were
no
issues
related
to
bacteria
growth
or
pathogens.
As
far
as
how
the
water
was
stored
and
heated
in
the
water
heater.
J
The
second
part
of
the
tentative
appeal
decision
would
remand
the
hearing
officer's
decision
in
part.
The
appellant
landlord
collectively
asserts
that
the
health
and
safety
code,
section
114192
relied
on
by
the
hearing
officer,
does
not
control
in
this
case,
because
it
relates
to
restaurant
and
food
services
facilities
not
to
residential
dwellings.
J
There's
and
the
reason
that
staff
is
recommending
that
the
decision
be
remanded
is
that
there
is
insufficient
evidence
in
the
record
for
the
committee
to
conclude
whether
the
water
temperature
is
constituted
a
violation
of
civil
code,
section
1941.183
or
health
and
safety
code,
section
17920.385,
which
are
the
two
sections
that
are
cited
by
the
csfra
as
far
as
failure
to
maintain
a
habitable
premises.
J
For
this
reason,
further
briefing
and
research
is
required
by
the
hearing
officer
to
determine
what
is
actually
the
appropriate
temperature
standard
for
hot
water
in
a
residential
dwelling
and
So,
based
on
all
of
that,
staff
is
recommending
that
you
remand
this
part
of
the
decision
to
the
hearing
officer
for
determination
of
the
proper
standard
and
a
decision
as
to
whether
the
facts
of
the
case
is
applied
to
that,
just
that
standard
would
constitute
would
still
constitute
a
failure
to
maintain
a
habitable
premises.
J
So
the
tentative
appeals
decision
the
fiscal
impact
since
it
recommends
remanding
one
part
of
the
decision
to
the
hearing
officer.
This
will
increase
the
cost
of
the
hearing
officer's
time
associated
with
this
petition.
However,
the
rental
housing
committee's
budget
for
the
csfra
sufficiently
accounts
for
the
cost
of
hearing
officer
time
already.
J
And
to
continue
the
fiscal
impact,
adoption
of
the
tentative
appeal
decision
could
potentially
lead
to
litigation
which
would
have
fiscal
impacts.
However,
the
one
of
the
purposes
of
having
an
appeal
process
is
to
ensure
that
the
hearing
decisions
are
illegally
defensible
and
so
the
whole
purpose
of
the
appeal
process
to
the
rental
housing
committee
is
to
reduce
the
overall
risk
of
legal
liability
and
litigation
expenses.
J
B
So
next
we
will
hear
from
our
appellant,
landlord
and
I
believe
they're
going
to
speak
here
in
person.
Thank
you.
K
Can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Shirley
ankenbauer
and
I'm
the
property
manager
for
Villa
direct
Apartments
located
at
1725
Broad
Avenue
here
in
Mountain
View,
it's
a
complex
with
72
units
and
approximately
175
to
200
tenants
in
at
all
times.
K
As
far
as
a
with
the
pre-hearing
Joanne
fam
explained
to
me
that,
for
reasons
out
of
her
control,
the
meeting
did
not
start
until
1
20..
So
even
though
I
was
there
at
10
minutes,
2-1
I
was
not
able
to
get
on
until
1
20..
So
that's
that's.
Fine
things
happen.
I,
understand
that
it
was
just
a
little
misguiding
for
me
to
understand
exactly
why
this
meeting
that
was
so
adequate
saying
you
had
to
be
there
at
one
was
not
taking
place.
K
K
It
was
also
mentioned
in
the
documentation
that
I
got
from
the
committee
that
code
1941.1
and
17920.3,
which
states
that
there
is
no
specific
legal
requirement
for
hot
water
temperature,
and
that
is
because,
when
the
water
comes
out
of
the
hot
water
tank,
it
has
to
travel
to
the
destination
where
it's
going,
whether
it
be
a
bathroom
kitchen
whatever
so
wherever
the
hot
water
tank
is
located,
is
determines
how
hot
it's
going
to
be
or
how
not
hot
I
mean
that's
just
common
sense.
K
Most
apartment
complexes
have
recirculating
hot
water
to
kind
of
alleviate
that
problem.
So
all
the
tenants
are
going
to
be
at
least
within
a
certain
range
of
degrees,
and
that's
something
that
has
not
been
given
a
every
person.
I
talk
to
every
plumber,
every
Code
Enforcer
said
that
there
is
not
any
specific
legal
requirement
for
hot
water.
K
Because
of
that
reason,
so
I
went
on
to
go
on
about
the
recirculating
lines
from
the
hot
water
tanks
and,
as
we
quote
quoted
it
reads
138
at
all
times,
and
it
varies
and,
as
you
know,
this
last
winter
was
very,
very
cold.
Due
to
the
atmospheric
river.
That
came,
and
we
were
just-
we
were
claimed-
a
disaster
area
because
of
this,
so
it
was
very,
very
cold,
very
damp,
and
so
that
also
plays
a
part
in
the
range
of
the
water
temperature.
K
So
I
also
submitted
a
letter
from
the
Board
of
Supervisors
in
San
Francisco,
that
was
putting
in
a
housing
apartment.
B
K
K
My
findings
and
I
had
submitted
that
at
the
very
first
meeting
to
the
hearing
officer,
but
he
was
only
concerned
with
code
114,
the
restaurant
code,
so
anyway
going
on
and
as
far
as
the
it
was
also
mentioned
in
there
that
my
pictures
that
the
plumbers
had
sent
me
showing
the
readings
of
107
and
110
in
both
rooms,
was
not
admissible
because
of
they
were
saying
it
was
submitted
after
the
hearing
which
it
was
not.
It
was
submitted.
K
I
have
two
different
photos
that
were
submitted
at
different
times
and
so
I
don't
understand
that
part
of
it
as
to
why
it's
saying
it
was
not
going
to
be
entered
into
the
records,
but
the
March
29th
was
submitted
for
the
May.
9Th
I
mean
March.
29Th
was
submitted
for
the
May
9th
meeting
and
then
the
June
26th
was
submitted
for
this
appeals
meeting
that
we're
having
this
evening
so
and
those
readings
show
that
all
the
range
is
there
from
105
to
120
and
Mr
Walker's
apartment
is
within
that
range.
K
His
as
hot
water
is
adequate
and
all
the
other
tenants
around
him
were
adequate
at
that
time
also.
But
the
hearing
officer
did
not
want
to
hear
about
the
other
71
units
he
just
wanted
to
hear
about.
72
I
mean
not
72
53.,
but
so
anyway,
that's
basically
it
there
was
just
a
lot
of
after
we
had.
The
meeting
I
felt
like
I
was
not
being
heard,
but
my
evidence
was
like
to
the
side
and
he
was
not
listening
to
what
I
had
to
say.
K
So
that's
why
I
appealed
his
decisions
and
I
have
paperwork
and
plumbers
and
boiler
people
that
were
called
in
to
take
care
of
this
problem
for
Mr
Walker
and
his
temperatures
now
yesterday
was
111
in
his
tub
and
107
in
the
kitchen,
and
that
was
taken
by
a
plumber,
not
my
maintenance
man
and
not
me.
So
that
being
said,
I
tried
to
make
the
decide
as
possible.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
for
me,
fine
and
I
think
I'm
done.
Thank
you.
A
B
Thank
you,
Kevin,
okay,
so
moving
on
for
now,
our
respondent,
tenant
I
think
you'll
be
joining
us
online,
and
so
we
would
like
to
hear
from
you
right.
A
L
Okay,
can
you
all
hear
me
yes,
hi!
Thank
you
all
for
your
time,
I
appreciate
it.
I'll
keep
this
brief.
I
have
done
myself
a
bit
of
a
disservice
as
to
my
chosen
times
throughout
this
to
collect
my
water
temperatures
as
it
goes
as
low
as
73
degrees.
But
yes,
during
the
day,
we're
we're
up
around
100
105,
no
disagreement
there,
just
hoping
to
have
some
warm
showers
in
the
morning.
That's
all
I
I
did
just
want
to
comment
on
the
documents
initially
submitted.
L
I
had
used
the
the
one
relevant
for
restaurants
and
food
service,
as
stated
previously,
there
is
no
specific
hot
water
temperature
for
housing,
so
I
just
located
the
only
relevant
County
document
that
actually
had
a
hot
water
temperature
reading
other
than
that
I'm
happy
to
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
Thank
you
all
again.
B
Thank
you.
Now
we
are
ready
for
up
to
five
minutes
from
our
repellent
landlord
to
rebut
any
statements
made
by
the
respondent,
and
we
incur.
We
ask
you
to
limit
your
comments
to
rebuttal,
rather
than
repeating
information
already
stated.
K
K
They
have
to
sterilize
their
dishes
to
serve
their
food
people,
so
everything
I
looked
at
I
even
went
through
the
codes
that
are
written
down
in
the
Appellate
thing
from
you
guys
talking
about
the
different
codes
is
one
one,
four,
nine
and
all
of
them
there's
so
many
codes
out
there,
but
it's
and
like
he's
admitting
it's
hard
to
get
a
certain
number,
so
he
went
with
the
highest
one
and
I.
K
Also,
if
I
told
him
I
said
if
your
water's,
not
hot
enough,
you
need
to
be
closer
to
where
the
main
heat
is
I'll.
Let
you
move
to
a
different
apartment
once
there
was
two
that
were
vacant
at
that
time.
When
this
came
up
and
he
declined
so
I,
don't
know
what
else
I
can
offer
to
him
and
I
think
that's.
It.
B
L
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
I
did
not
go
with
the
highest
temperature.
I
could
find.
I
went
with
the
only
stated
hot
water
temperature
that
I
could
find
there.
There
wasn't
one
Rel
relevant
for
housing,
so
I
went
with
the
only
available
hot
water
temperature
for
Santa,
Clara
County
and
on
the
final
point
in
regarding
moving
given,
it
is
the
same
complex
and
my
concerns
about
hot
water,
weren't
resolved
or
taken
very
seriously.
I.
L
Don't
think
that
requiring
me
to
move
in
the
hopes
of
hotter
water
temperature
at
a
new
location
would
be
suitable,
as
opposed
to
just
slightly
lowering
the
amount
I
pay
per
month
to
match
the
decrease
in
water
temperature.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
B
I
have
one
so
we
received
a
lot
of
information
and
all
of
it
is
admissible.
Correct.
J
You
need
to
be
more
specific
with
your
question.
No,
all
of
it
is
not
admissible.
There
are,
in
fact
the
the
Board
of
Supervisors
letter
that
was
submitted
by
the
appellant
is
not
admissible.
It
was
not
in
the
original
administrative
record.
Additionally,
there
are
some
photos
that
were
submitted
of
readings
as
the
response,
as
the
appellant
mentioned,
that
our
readings
after
the
May
9th
hearing
that
were
submitted
only
for
the
purposes
of
this
hearing
that
are
also
not
admissible.
B
The
picture
I'm
interested
in
is
the
picture.
I
guess
the
readings
at
the
adjacent
Apartments.
Is
that
admissible
or
not.
J
It's
not
relevant,
the
hearing
officer
did
not
find
it
relevant
and
so
did
not
consider
it
and
reaching
his
decision.
So
no
those
are
not
admissible.
B
And
I
just
like
to
understand
better.
If
so,
it
was
part
of
the
original
hearing,
but
it
was
considered
not
relevant
by
the
right.
J
B
Okay,
I
think
now
we'll
move
on
and
ask
do.
Committee
members
have
questions
for
the
landlord
or
the
tenant.
B
B
So
now,
we'll
ourselves
deliberate
the
issue
and
consider
what
we
want
to
how
we
want
to
resolve
the
appeal:
Committee
Member,
Cox.
E
Okay,
so
I
went
first
of
all
I
want
to
thank
the
landlord
and
tenant
for
coming
here
and
giving
us.
Your
reasoning
and
I
also
want
to
thank
thanks
staff
for
going
through
the
issues
in
a
very
thorough
and
appropriate
way,
and
I
will
give
you
what
my
initial
opinion
is
on
this.
But,
of
course,
I
want
to
hear
what
the
other
people
on
the
commission
I
mean
a
committee.
E
Think
about
this,
because
this
only
second
time
I've
done
this,
like
many
of
us,
except
for
the
vice
chair.
So
anyway,
yeah
I
I,
agree
on
all
the
things
that
the
hearing
officers
said
should
not
be
remanded,
basically
in
accordance
with
what
it
is.
She
said
and
I
think.
The
thing
here
that
is
most
important
is
from
my
perspective.
It
isn't
even
the
matter
of
whether
or
not
something
is
simply
true.
E
You
can
state
things
that
are
true,
but
unless
they're
material
to
the
issue
at
hand,
then
I
mean
you
know
they
don't
enter
into
the
decision-making
process.
So
I
will
acknowledge
that
many
of
the
points
of
erased
could
be
true,
but
we
have
to
restrict
ourselves
to
the
things
that
are
material
and
then
I
think.
The
other
thing
is
that
comes
back.
Is
whether
or
not
the
issue
on
the
recommendation
to
remand
the
issue
of
the
water
temperature
should
be
done.
E
My
opinion
is
that
it
should,
for
the
following
reason:
I
do
agree
that
a
clear
and
simple
reading
of
the
health
and
safety
code
is
that
it
applies
to
Food
Service
facilities
and
not
residences
the
civil
code
section
and
health
safety
code
sections.
They
refer
to
hot
water
without
specifically
defining
it,
and
but
I
did
find
that
the
Calif
chapter,
2
of
the
California
plumbing
code,
does
Define
hot
water
as
water
at
a
temperature
exceeding
or
equal
to
120
degrees.
E
So
but
I
don't
know
whether
that's
compelling
toward
the
decision
and
that's
why
I
would
like
to
see
it
remanded,
because
another
thing
that
I
found
was
that
in
such
cases
like
with
the
civil
code
in
the
health
code,
where
there
isn't
a
specific
definition
of
the
hot
water,
then
it
could
be
up
to
a
local
code
if
a
minimum
temperature
is
required
and
I
don't
have
any
evidence
on
whether
there
is
any
local
code
that
makes
that
any
clearer.
E
So
for
all
of
that,
I
think
you
know
there's
this
needs
to
go
back
for
more
information
and
so
I
support.
The
tentative
appeal.
B
D
B
So
I'm
going
to
stay
with
the
printed
items
and
our
PowerPoint
will
be
off
just
a
little.
B
N
Good
evening
rental,
housing
committee
and
thank
you,
chair
Keating
this
evening,
item
7.1,
is
and
for
the
is
for
the
rental
housing
committee
to
consider
an
update
to
the
hearing
officer
remuneration
scale,
as
well
as
an
ongoing
methodology
to
address
this
in
the
future.
N
So,
for
a
little
background
here
in
June
of
2017,
the
rhc
adopted
a
structure
for
appointment
of
hearing
officers
that
established
qualification
and
experience
requirements
contracted
with
project
Sentinel
to
provide
hearing
officer,
Recruitment
and
administration
services,
and
also
adopted
the
initial
remuneration
scale.
Two
years
later,
in
2019
the
rhc
received
and
hearing
officer
and
facilitator
update
and
the
rhc
reducted
adopted
a
revised
remuneration
scale
at
that
time.
N
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background,
so
the
petition
process
has
a
variety
of
people
who
support
it,
including
City
staff.
We
provide
hearing
Administration
related
support
for
the
entire
petition
process.
We
have
facilitators
that
step
in
they
are
skilled
in
a
mediaries
to
perform
the
settlement
petitions
outside
of
the
hearing
process.
N
N
The
we
want
to
mention
here
that
settlement
conference,
facilitators
and
hearing
officers
are
crucial
to
the
Africa
efficacy
of
the
event
stabilization
program.
The
remuneration
scale
has
not
been
updated
since
2019
and
in
order
to
retain
qualified
hearing
officers
and
facilitators
staff
proposed
the
rhc
consider
adopting
an
updated
remuneration
Scale
based
on
the
same
Consumer
Price
Index.
As
the
annual
General
adjustment
of
rent.
N
And
this
is
what
that
would
look
like.
So
we
are
looking
here
at
the
past
four
increases
in
the
AGA
from
the
time
the
last
remuneration
scale
was
passed
and
relevant
AGA
was
passed
as
well
until
today's
relevant
Aga,
so
keep
in
mind
that
these
are
set
back
in
April
and
based
on
the
February
to
February
index.
So
when
we
were
looking
at
this
and
we're
talking
about
applying
the
next
year's
AGA
on
the
fiscal
year
as
a
fiscal
year
increase
on
July
1st,
this
index
will
already
be
available
for
that
increase.
N
As
we
move
forward
in
the
process,
so
staff
recommends
a
total
remuneration
scale
increase
of
14.9
percent.
That
is
what
you
see
here.
So
we
have
the
previous
increases:
2.9
percent
2.0
percent,
5.0
percent
for
the
past
fiscal
years,
and
then
five
percent
for
fiscal
year
2022-23
and
that
combines
to
14.9.
So
we
have
a
one-time
cost
of
living
adjustment
of
9.9
percent
to
capture
the
prior
fiscal
year
increases
and
then
a
five
percent
increase
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
N
N
So
the
recommendation
from
staff
is
to
update
an
adopted
and
is
to
adopt
an
updated
remuneration
scale
for
settlement
conference
facilitators
and
hearing
officers
for
fiscal
year,
2023-24
that
incorporates
prior
cost
of
living
adjustments
for
fiscal
year
2019
through
2020
through
fiscal
year
2023-2024,
and
sets
an
annual
Cola
increase
every
year
thereafter,
at
the
start
of
the
fiscal
year,
unless
otherwise
adjusted
by
the
rental
housing
committee.
N
For
the
fiscal
impact
fiscal
year,
2023-24
is
total
Associated.
Hearing
officer
costs
are
estimated
to
be
135
100
without
a
remuneration
scale
increase
155,
100
000,
with
the
increase
applied
both
are
above
the
fiscal
year.
2023
2024
budgeted
amount
for
hearing
officers
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
the
rhc
approve
a
contract
Amendment
to
the
project,
Sentinel
csfra
contract
of
an
additional
eighty
thousand
dollars.
With
this
contract
Amendment,
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
was
previously
budgeted
for
hearing
officers,
and
this
Edition
brings
a
total
line.
N
Item
amount
to
one
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars.
This
then
brings
the
entire
csfra
related
project
Sentinel
contract
to
a
total
not
to
exceed
amount
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
The
overall
budgeted
revenues
and
reserves
for
fiscal
year.
2023
2024
for
the
rent.
Stabilization
division
are
projected
to
cover
the
associated
increase,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
the
product
Sentinel
mobile
home,
rent
stabilization
ordinance
contract
does
not
require
an
amendment
at
this
time.
N
And
so
we
have
two
recommendations
here.
As
you've
seen,
we
have
the
first
one
which
update,
which
has
the
rhd
adopting
an
updated
remuneration
scale
and
the
second
one
which
authorizes
the
program
manager
or
other
designee
to
execute
an
amendment
to
the
agreement
with
project
sentimental
to
provide
administrative
and
hearing
process
services
for
fiscal
year
2023-24
to
increase
the
line.
N
Item
amount
for
hearing
officer
services
to
an
amount
not
to
exceed
at
one
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars,
resulting
in
the
total
amount
of
the
contract
not
to
exceed
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
order
to
adequately
address
the
increase
in
petitions
filed
with
the
division
and
the
associated
hearing
officer
increases
staff
would
like
to
note
that
if
you
would
like,
we
can
pull
up
the
remuneration
scale
tables
to
show
what
was
approved
in
2019,
as
well
as
what
is
being
recommended
for
this
current
year
and
otherwise.
This
concludes
staff's
presentation.
B
C
I
have
a
few
questions.
First
question
is
why
why
is
this
being
considered
now
and
not
back
when
we
were
discussing
the
budget
earlier
this
year?
Was
it
because
the
contract
was
up
for
renewal
at
this
time,
or
is
this
just
a
recent
ask.
N
Historically,
this
was
brought
as
a
separate
item
to
the
rental
housing
committee
outside
of
the
budgetary
process,
and
we
continued
with
that
historic
precedence
in
the
future.
Well,
one
we
likely
won't
have
to
bring
this
back.
Should
you
consider
and
adopt
the
recommendation
two
in
the
future.
It
will
be
wrapped
into
the
budget
process
if,
if
so
needed
and.
N
The
for
the
contract
Amendment,
we
have
exceeded
our
anticipated
and
expected
petition
filings
for
last
fiscal
year
and
for
this
fiscal
year
and
we'll
need
additional,
as
mentioned
in
the
staff
report,
additional
funding
to
be
able
to
cover
those
costs.
Regardless
of
whether
or
not
you
determined
to
you
decide
to
as
a
body
increase
the
remuneration
scale.
C
Okay,
because
I
was
going
to
ask
if
you
I
would
have
preferred
seeing
the
table
at
the
time
of
the
budget
just
because
it
seems
like
we
haven't,
touched
the
thing
in
four
years,
so
maybe
for
maybe
best
practice.
We
would
just
add
that,
as
part
of
maybe
an
information
memo
next
time,
it
comes
in
May.
E
I
was
looking
at
there's
an
hour
cap
for
tenant
petitions,
a
d
and
an
hour
cap
for
decision
on
remand
and
the
first
one
was
increased
from
eight
hours
to
15
hours
and
the
second
one
from
five
hours
to
ten
hours.
And
this
isn't
a
question
of
you
know
the
remuneration
per
se,
but
how
many
hours
would
be
allowed
for
a
process
and
I'm
wondering
what
went
into
the
decision
to
increase
that.
N
We're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
complexity
of
petitions
overall,
and
so
therefore,
staff
recommends
that
hearing
officers
be
able
to
adequately
bill
for
their
time
without
having
to
check
in
with
staff
prior
to
to
reaching
those
low
low
caps.
B
Other
comments,
okay,
then
so
I
think
we've
asked
all
our
questions
now.
Do
we
have
any
comments
we'd
like
to
share.
D
N
We
would
we
would
need
to
increase
the
request
or
contract
Amendment
from
you
for
project
Sentinels
csfra
contract,
regardless
of
the
remuneration
scale
increase
because
of
the
amount
of
petitions
that
we
have
filed
for
this
year
and
that
are
will
finally
be
finalized
and
build
to
this
year's
budget
from
last
year.
However,
the
current
budgeted
revenues
and
reserves
for
the
rent
stabilization
division
will
cover
this
Associated
increase.
C
N
N
E
Just
for
a
point
of
clarification,
isn't
simply
the
CPI,
but
it's
has
the
lower
bound
of
two
percent
in
the
upper
bound
of
five
percent.
Yes
or
no.
N
N
The
actuals
for
one
was
I,
think
5.3
percent
and
one
was
eight
point.
Something
percent
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
it
was
and
then
we
have
the
the
lower
one
here
for
two
percent
and
that
was
below
the
two
percent
threshold.
So
staff
is
recommending
that
you
stick
with
the
bounds,
but
you
do
not
have
to
do
that.
It's
up
to
the
rhc
for
consideration.
B
B
E
Yeah,
were
you
were
first
okay,
I,
don't
know
I'm
inclined
to
stay
with
what
the
staff
had,
because
you
know
I
mean
for
me
personally,
I
mean
it
isn't
just
the
CPI
that
judges,
what
is
the
fair
market
rate
for
some
service
or
whatever,
because
I
mean
we
might
have
to
go
higher,
because
you
know
there
might
be
a
shortage
of
people
doing
the
particular
work
and
we
need
to
pay
more
for
that
to
happen,
but
I
mean
you
know,
I
I'd
like
to
try
this
out
and
see
how
it
goes.
G
B
Comment
I
think
one
of
the
considerations
here
is
that
we
don't
want
to
kind
of
fall
behind
in
our
payments,
and
you
know
we
have
our
own
reasons
for
having
you
know,
views
about
that,
for
example,
fixed
rate
mortgages.
B
When
we
look
at
the
the
AGA
that's
used
in
the
in
the
actual
csfra
AGA
calculation
and
I'm,
not
I,
haven't
really
thought
through,
but
I
guess
the
you
know.
The
reason
why
this
is
forgiving
is
because
we
can
always
change
it,
and
if
we
have
a
study
that
comes
along
that
says,
we've
fallen
behind
in
our
level
of
payment
to
the
hearing
officers.
Then
we
can
adjust.
B
So
this
is
certainly
better
to
have
some
built-in
adjustments
than
to
not
have
an
adjustment
and
get
years
behind
inflation
like
we
have.
So
are
we
ready
for
a
motion.
F
B
E
Is
there
more
or
should
I
add
the
specifics?
I'll.
E
G
A
Well
style,
Development,
Committee,
Member,
Brad,
yep,
Committee,
Member,
Ma,
Committee
Member,
yes,
Vice,
chair,
Rosas,
hi,
chair
Keating,
yes,
motion
path
is
unanimously.
Thank.
G
I
moved
to
authorize
the
program
manager
or
other
designee
to
execute
an
amendment
to
the
agreement
with
project
Sentinel
to
provide
administrative
and
hearing
process
services
for
fiscal
year
2023-24
to
increase
the
line.
Item
amount
for
hearing
officer
services
to
an
amount
not
to
exceed
180
000,
resulting
in
the
total
amount
of
the
contract
not
to
exceed
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
In
order
to
adequately
address
the
increase
in
petitions
filed
with
the
division
and
the
associated
hearing
officer
increases.
B
Community
member
roses
is
it,
would
you
like
to
Second?
Oh
yes,
I
would
like
to
second
okay
and
we're
ready
for
another
roll
call.
A
Many
member
Brown,
yes
Committee
Member,
ma
Committee
Member
Cox,
yes,
Vice,
chair,
Rosas,
aye,
chair
Keating,
yes,
motion
passes
unanimously.
G
You
said
updater
remuneration
scale,
it's
a
reference
to
the.
B
Are
they
both
chapter
12?
They
are
public
comment
will
occur
after
the
presentation
and
after
committee
questions
we
invite
you
to
submit
a
speaker
card
now.
If
you
know
you
would
like
to
comment
and
I
think
we're
ready
for
our
presentation.
N
N
It's
a
little
bit
of
background.
The
csfra
and
the
mhrso
authorize
the
rhc
to
establish
rules
and
regulations
for
administration
and
enforcement
of
the
ordinance
or
of
the
csfra
and
csfra's
section.
1709D
13
and
mhrso
section
46.9
a13
both
authorize
the
rhc
to
establish
a
schedule
of
penalties
that
may
be
imposed
for
non-compliance
with
that
mhrso
or
the
csfra,
and
for
the
csfra
with
the
rules
and
regulations
promulgulated
under
the
csfra.
N
That
is
September
2022
rhc
meeting
the
committee
considered
and
adopted
regulations
establishing
a
schedule
of
late
fees
to
be
imposed
when
a
landlord
fails
to
timely
pay,
their
annual
rental
housing
fee
or
space
fees
and
or
a
landlord
or
mobile
home
park
owner,
fails
to
timely,
complete
their
annual
registration
c
section
e
of
chapter
12
in
both
the
ordinance
and
the
ordinance
regulations
and
the
csfra
regulations
in
both
instances,
as
currently
written.
The
associated
fines
continue
to
accrue
month
over
month
and
do
not
cap
at
the
end
of
each
Associated
year.
N
Instead,
they
continue
to
accrue
until
the
compliance
issue
is
addressed
either
by
payment
or
by
registration
respectively
and
in
relation
to
the
rental
housing
fee
and
the
space
fee.
Fines
those
compound
from
month
to
month
so
there's
a
four
percent
fine
on
the
rental
housing
fee
and
the
space
fee,
if
not
paid
a
timely
manner
and
that
compounds
month
to
month,
historically
just
to
give
a
little
bit
more
perspectives.
The
compliance
with
the
rental
housing
fee
payments
has
been
high,
but
compliance
with
the
mandatory
registration
of
units
has
been
low.
N
The
registration
and
fee
cycle
for
2023
provided
the
initial
opportunity
to
test
compliance
measures
and
there's
an
Associated
correlation
in
landlord
compliance
with
mandatory
registration
and
the
implementation
of
the
new
compliance
measures.
Registration
compliance
increased
significantly
and
fee
compliance
is
equal
to
Prior
years
because,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
historically
a
high
compliance
rate
with
the
rental
housing
fee,
and
this
is
what
that
looks
like.
We
are
looking
here
at
the
2022
billing
and
registration
cycle
and
the
2023
billing
and
registration
cycle.
N
N
We
have
the
2022
cycle
and
the
2023
cycle,
showing
last
year
we
had
for
the
entire
calendar
year
about
93
of
properties
for
the
csfra
pay,
their
fees,
and
for
this
year,
we're
at
94
and
again
we're
not
done
with
with
the
cycle
staff
would
like
to
note
that
the
compliance
for
fee
payments
for
last
cycle
is
higher
than
93,
but
we
wanted
to
show
a
comparative
time
frame
and
illustrate
the
difference
as
best
as
possible.
So
this
is
what
that
looks
like,
and
the
increase
in
in
the
registration.
N
Since
the
adoption
of
chapter
12
staff
has
worked
with
the
finance
and
administrative
services
department
and
the
committee's
registration
database
vendor
to
identify
the
best
way
to
implement
fees
and
fines.
Based
on
these
discussions,
staff
recommends
using
3di
for
future
implementation,
a
bowl
of
both
the
fees
and
fines
payment
platforms.
However,
this
will
still
require
modification
to
the
current
fine
structure
in
order
to
more
effectively
administrator
administer
the
fines
portion
of
the
compliance
measures.
Staff
began
discussions
with
3di
to
process
invoices
and
payments
through
their
system.
N
This
will
greatly
reduce
manual
processes
and
the
likelihood
of
associated
errors
in
this
implementation.
However,
there
are
considerations.
It
is
very
challenging
for
the
system
to
process
fines
if
they
continue
to
accrue
continuously.
The
system
cannot
continue
to
accumulate
fines
on
the
prior
Year's
lack
of
compliance
and
once
the
system
transitions
to
a
new
registration
cycle,
property
owners
are
unable
to
register
their
properties
for
years
previously
unregistered.
In
the
system.
N
Additionally,
the
registration
and
fee
payment
due
dates
are
different.
This
the
may
lead
to
confusion
about
the
community
among
the
community
about
when
registration
and
fee
payments
are
due
and
it's
beneficial
to
bring
both
the
rental,
housing
and
space
fee
and
the
registration
due
dates
into
alignment.
This
ensures
consistency
with
the
application
of
the
regulations
and
late
fees.
N
Should
there
be
a
significant
decrease
in
compliance
after
the
implementation
of
the
suggested
amendments,
the
rhc
May
review
and
revise
regulations
as
needed.
Additionally,
should
the
rhd
want
to
continue
the
current
fine
structure
without
caps
and
turn
the
alternate
solution
is
not
currently
available
at
this
time
would
require
extensive
research
may
result
in
a
recommendation
to
find
alternate
vendors
outside
of
the
current
portal
system,
and
it
is
unknown
if
alternate
vendors
exist
at
this
time.
Shifting
away
from
the
current
portal
would
also
impact
the
decision
division's
budget
and
require
additional
funding.
N
The
fiscal
impact
is
as
follows:
the
adoption
of
the
process
proposed
amendments
to
the
csfra
regulations.
Chapter
12
are
not
anticipated
to
impact
the
csfra
budget
and
the
adoption
of
the
proposed
amendments
to
mhr
so
regulations.
Chapter
12
are
not
anticipated
to
impact
the
mhrso
budget.
However,
the
committee's
decision
to
not
to
adopt
the
proposed
amendments
may
have
an
impact
on
their
rhc's
budget
for
both
the
csfra
and
the
mhrso
by
delaying
implementation
of
the
regulations
and
therefore
delaying
collection
of
late
fees
and
charges
and
requiring
that
staff
seek
out
proposals
from
additional
vendors.
N
Therefore,
in
order
to
address
these
issues,
staff
recommends
the
rhc
amend
the
regulations
as
follows:
capping
the
accrual
of
associated
fines
at
the
end
of
a
10-month
period
for
each
year
and
for
any
Associated
late
fines
from
a
previous
year.
The
full
amount
of
New
Balance
includes
any
prior
Year's
balance
line
itemized
by
year
and
staff
recommends
the
rhd
set
and
November
1st
end
date
for
the
accrual
of
late
charges
and
fees
that
best
supports
with
the
technical
limitations
of
the
system.
N
So
this
is
what
the
staff
recommendations
are.
The
first
recommendation
is
to
amend
the
csfra
regulations
and
mhr
regulations,
chapter
12
compliance
and
enforcement
to
cap,
the
accrual
of
associative,
fines
on
an
annual
basis
and
to
amend
the
CSF
regulations
and
mhrso
regulations;
chapter
12
compliance
and
enforcement
to
adjust
the
annual
rental
housing
fee
and
property
registration
due
dates
for
Section
e
of
chapter
12
of
both
regulations
to
be
due
on
January
31st
of
each
year.
N
Staff
would
like
to
note
that
this
is
not
the
full
text
of
the
updated
regulations
that
is
provided
in
the
staff
report
and
in
the
draft
regulations
that
were
presented
to
you
as
attachments
for
this
staff
report.
And
that
concludes
staff.
Presentation.
B
So
I
think
I'm
guessing
we
probably
won't
have
public
comment,
but
for
order
the
we
should
be
doing
Committee
Member
questions
next
before
public
comment.
Is
that
correct.
B
Okay,
so
before
we
ask
for
if
there
is
any
public
comment,
Committee
Member
questions,
Committee,
Member,
Cox.
E
Yes,
I
just
want
to
understand
a
few
points
here
so
from
these
changes
in
these
amendments.
It's
still
the
case
that
if
a
person
got
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
the
year,
without
and
being
in
compliance
than
if
a
new
Seer
starts,
he
continues
to
accrue
new
late
fees.
Is
that
right?
N
So
if
you,
if
you
did
not
pay
your
your
fee
for
2023,
that
and
and
you
you
didn't
pay
it
ever,
those
fines
currently
would
just
continue
to
accrue
into
the
future
and
then
be
added
into
continually
accruing
into
the
future.
If
there
were
additional
late
fees
and
late
fines
and
this
the
system
is
not
able
to
continually
accrue
for
prior
years
lack
of
compliance.
N
So
what
would
happen
is
there's
a
cap
on
that
fine
with
basically
10
month
cap
and
that
cap
stops
the
fees
from
accruing
additional
fees
at
fines
for
that
year.
So
it's
it
freezes
it
in
time
and
then,
if
there's
a
balance
on
that
account,
it
would
roll
over
that
Frozen
capped
amount
to
the
next
billion
cycle.
N
N
If
you
had
a
fine
of
100
in
2023
and
it
was
capped
in
2023
that
100
would
roll
over
to
the
next
cycle.
So
if
you
had,
if
the
rental
housing
fee
was
a
hundred
dollars,
you
would
have
your
new
rental
housing
fee
of
a
hundred
dollars,
plus
that
new
line
item
of
the
fines
and
and
Associated
late
fee
for
the
prior
year
of
100.
So
you
now
would
have
a
Bill
of
two
hundred
dollars
and
then
moving
forward.
N
Fines
would
only
accrue
on
that
100
for
the
news
cycle,
because
the
system
has
challenges
otherwise.
E
N
As
mentioned
previously
that
we
have
really
high
compliance
numbers
with
the
fee,
there
are
additional
factors
outside
of
staff's
control
that
we
have
challenges
with
annually,
including
when
properties
transact
finding
new
the
new
owners,
ensuring
that
properties
are
in
compliance
is
challenging
if,
if
there
are
new
owners
and
we
are
unable
to
reach
them,
so
there
are
our
reasons
why
that
occurs,
and
staff
does
try
to
minimize
that
as
much
as
possible.
B
I'm
going
to
jump
in
with
a
question
first,
so
I'd
like
to
also
check
my
understanding,
which
is
getting
better
but
I
just
want
to
be
sure
of
it.
So
let's
say
that
in
a
certain
year
that
the
a
landlord
owes
a
hundred
dollar
fine
and
let's
and
they
be.
They
first
owe
that
hundred
dollar
fine
in
February,
let's
say
because
they
failed
to
pay
in
January
and
then,
if
they
so
that
hundred
dollar
fine-
and
this
is
in
the
new
in
either
the
current
or
the
new
system
in
March.
B
You
are
roughly
getting
it
correct,
yes,
and
but
then,
in
the
current
system
the
the
fine
amount
for
that
year
would
just
grow
and
grow
a
little
bit
every
month
forever
and
ever,
whereas
in
the
new
system
that
fine
amount
will
grow
all
through
10
months
or
11
months,
let's
say:
I!
Guess
it's
10.
B
and
then
it
becomes
Frozen,
but
it's
still
owed
that's
correct
and
then
there's
a
new
registration
or
rental
housing
fee,
and
that
will
you
know
for
the
next
year
and
if
that
isn't
paid,
that
will
have
its
own
new
fine.
So
there's
the
old
hundred
dollars
and
change
fee
that
carries
forward,
but
it
never
changes
again
and
then
a
new
hundred
dollars
that
then
will
escalate
if
it's
not
paid
to
101
or
so
or
102,
or
three
or
so
ongoingly,
but
only
for
10
months,
and
then
that
becomes
Frozen,
but
it's
still
owed.
B
So
thank
you.
I'm
feeling
you're
you're
nodding
your
head
as
a
perfect
answer.
I
appreciate
that
so
I'm
gonna
sneak
in
one
more
question.
Sorry
other
committee
members,
but
then
I'll
get
back
to
you.
So
is
this
change?
B
You
know,
there's
the
another
fee
that
the
city
charges
and
sends
out
bills
for
that
the
rental
housing
fee
has
been
involved
with
I
forget
what
the
inspection
or
something,
and
so
with
this
change.
Are
we
still
going
to
be
incorporated
or
we're
going
to
be
separate,
I'm.
B
D
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
thanks.
So
my
question
is
a
follow-up
from
Edie
Keaton,
so,
for
example,
from
the
chair.
Sorry,
so
my
question
is:
let's
say
that
you
do
carry
that
rears
right
and
then
now
a
new
year
comes
will
I
be
able
to
pay
that
new
year,
but
still
maintain
that
rears
or
or
will
I
will
not
be
allowed
to
pay
the
current
year.
N
C
So
follow
up
from
meant
comment
in
the
presentation,
so
the
fee
payment
compliance
numbers
were
done
on
a
Apples
to
Apples
comparison.
So
what
was
the
compliance
rate
for
2022
cycle
for
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year?
What
what
percentage
would
that
have
been.
N
So
these
are
the
Cycles
run
from
January
to
January
for
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
If
you're
looking
for
how
much
in
total
the
fees
collected
for
the
rental
housing
fees
were
by
by
current
date
or
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
for
2022,
we
would
have
to
pull
that
number
I
don't
have
it.
N
G
So
the
system
can't
handle
applying
the
compound
to
the
unpaid
balance
you're,
given
the
10
the
10
months,
or
is
that
through
something
that
was?
Is
that
an
option?
Is
that
not
an
option
system.
G
See
so
can.
G
Yeah
in
in
the
the
late
fees
for
failure
to
pay
annual
rental
housing
fees
right,
the
current
tax
has
four
percent
compounding
for
the
unpaid
balance
for
previous
years.
Is
that
something
the
system
can't
handle
is
apply?
Is
continuing
to
apply
the
compound
interest
to
the
pro
the
prior
years?
Balance.
N
That's
correct:
it
has
to
the
the
compounding
has
to
stop
well,
the
count
we're
recommending,
based
on
the
system,
limitations
that
the
compounding
stop
after
10
months
on
November
1st
for
the
the
system.
N
G
N
I
I
from
my
understanding
of
what
we
have
been
told
by
the
third
party
administrator.
It
is
unable
to
do
that
in
an
elegant
manner.
J
It's
because
there
one
of
them
is
not
yet
being
charged
late
fees,
so
you
have
one
half
of
the
balance
or
a
part
of
the
balance.
That's
new
for
the
new
rental
housing
fees
that
is
not
yet
recruiting
accruing
a
late
charge,
and
then
you
have
the
piece
that
is
accruing
the
late
charge
and
the
system
can't
do
both
simultaneously,
even
with
the
rollover.
B
D
But
you
still
cannot
I
mean
if
I
understand
it
right,
you
will
not
be
able
to
pay
accrue,
you
would
not
be
able
to
pay
ever.
You
would
have
to
pay
everything
at
the
time
that
you
want
to
come
current,
so
you'd
have
to
pay
everything
and
then,
if
it
becomes
a
way
to
ballooned,
it's
like
well,
you
know
what
I'm
just
gonna
sell
yeah.
B
B
Sorry
I'm
just
trying
I,
know
I
had
a
question.
Oh
I
know
the
timing
of
getting
this
done.
I
mean,
assuming
we
you
know,
go
with
the
plan
as
proposed.
January
is
coming
up
fairly
quickly
and
is
there
confidence
that
this
will
be?
This
change
will
happen
by
January.
Yes,.
N
B
N
As
staff
assist
the
system
in
sending
out
push
notifications
and
other
other
communication
through
the
system
itself,
and
then
we
also
do
a
lot
of
extensive
Outreach
regarding
the
new
fees
and
registration
every
year.
That
starts
in
October.
B
So
if
I
could
summarize,
then
we
have
a
calculation
change,
that
the
is
needs
to
be
implemented
before
January,
and
this
is
also
our
first.
So
when
we
have
our
Billings
now
are
they
recorded
in
the
our
proprietary
system?
They.
N
Are
not
so
that's
currently,
it
goes
through
the
finance
department
through
the
city's
finance
department,
and
this
would
be
shifting
to
allow
payments
through
the
Vendor,
Portal
and
also
manually
through
check
or
through
check.
So.
B
That's
quite
a
few
changes.
You'll
have
a
lot
of
testing
to
do,
but
it
sounds
like
this
is
what
you
believe
your
best
option
have.
Is
there
any
way
to
stay
with
the
current
system
of
having
the
city?
Do
the
billing.
D
You
chair
one
more
question:
will
this
system
will
this
impact
the
landlords
in
any
way.
N
Well,
they
will
be
able
to
make
payments
through
the
portal
instead
of
having
to
go
through
the
finance
department,
so
that
would
be
the
the
biggest
shift
for
the
property
owners
and
staff
will
be
able
to
more
quickly.
You
know,
have
information
on
payment
and
registration,
whether
or
not
people
have
paid
or
registered
their
property.
D
N
Will
have
trainings,
as
we
have
in
the
past,
to
assist
with
registration
that
this
is
no
different.
It
does
not
affect
registration.
This
just
provides
a
way
for
people
to
now.
Instead
of
having
to
go
to
the
city's
website
or
to
go
to
the
city's
finance
department
with
their
invoice.
Now
they
can
access
that
all
in
one
place
in
the
portal,
so
they
don't
have
to
leave
the
portal
system
with
this
new
process.
They
stay
in
the
portal
system
and
they
can
pay
right,
along
with
the
the
registration.
B
E
Sure
you
know
I.
This
is
just
as
a
guy
who
spent
the
last
40
Years
of
his
life
working
with
software.
You
know
I'm
always
kind
of
amazed
when
a
limitation
like
this
comes
up.
You
know
where
I
mean
anybody
with
a
pencil
and
a
paper
and
a
calculator
would
have
been
able
to
do
it,
but
some
sophisticated
system
cannot
and
but
I
do
understand
that
when
you
make
a
choice
of
a
system
that
you're
going
to
use,
there
are
a
lot
of
considerations
involved,
and
you
know
just
being
able
to
do
you
know.
E
Fourth
grade
math
with
a
calculator
is
not
the
only
thing
that
you
would,
you
know
require
of
it.
So
I
I
understand
you
have
good
reasons
for
one
is
wanting
to
stick
with
the
system
that
you've
chosen
and
I
also
understand
that,
while
it
does
raise
my
eyebrows
a
little
bit
that
you
know,
I
mean
this
means
that
you
know
people
who
are
you
know
not
current
with
their
payments
on
on
this
we'll
be
getting
a
discount
of
somewhat
as
a
result
of
it,
I
mean
the
point.
E
The
penalties
is
not
to
raise
money
for
the
city
or
to
be
punitive,
but
simply
to
encourage
compliance
and
so
I
guess
if
I
don't
hear
anything
substantially
different
from
the
other
committee
members,
I
I
would
go
for
this.
E
You
know
bewildered
okay
by
the
fleet
fee
compliance
plateauing
and
that's
because
you
know
I
mean
it's
really
easy
to
understand
what
the
fees
are
and
they've
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
so
here's
my
illustration.
You
know:
I
live
on
Houghton
Street,
there's
about
23
houses
on
the
street,
okay,
and
so,
if
one
let's
say
I
went
around
to
my
neighbors
and
I'd
say:
do
you
feel?
Okay?
If
everybody
on
the
street
pays
this
property
taxes
except
one
person,
you
know-
and
you
know
smart.
I
E
Might
answer
if
it's
me
yeah
but
I
mean
you
know,
but
in
reality
most
people
with
just
that
information
would
probably
say.
No,
that's
not
fair
and
I'd
like
to
know
why,
but
then
there
can
be
extenuating
circumstances
as
you
bring
up
like
what
happened.
If
somehow
you
know
that
the
owner
of
the
home,
you
know,
is
lost
in
the
Sierras
and
they
don't
know
where
he
is
right.
I
mean
you
know,
and
then
he
doesn't
pay
the
fee.
E
Okay,
but
then
he
gets
found
later
and
you
know
he
pays
the
fee,
so
I
mean
you
know.
I
can
believe
that
there
are
reasons,
but
I
really
do
if,
if
it,
if
it
doesn't
get
to
like
around
98
I'd
I'd
really
like
to
see
staff,
take
the
time
to
explain
at
least
what
the
cases
where
not
I'm,
not
asking
for
any
personal
information
with
people,
but
just
the
for
instances
to
see
whether
they're,
reasonable
and
that's
not
for
tonight.
But
that's
just
my
comment.
Thank
you.
N
The
for
whether
or
not
people
have
paid
it's
if
they've
paid
their
invoice.
N
N
A
Yes,
it's
it's
not
that
it's
mainly
County
data
and
we
also
cross-check
that
with
our
multi-family
housing
inspection
program,
who
also
covers
many
of
the
same
buildings
with
their
program
as
with
our
program.
So
we
cross-checked
both
of
those
data
sets
that
come
up
with
the
most
accurate
number
of
properties
covered
by
the
csfra,
and
we
have
all
of
those
properties
in
our
database
and
that's
who
we
bill
every
year.
B
And
I'm
gonna
jump
in
with
one
question,
and
so
it
should
be
a
pretty
static
number
because
we
can't
add
new
new
apartments.
Don't
are
not
subject
to
the
csfra,
so
it
would
just
be.
You
know
pretty
much
attrition
or
if
there
was
a
you
know
an
unused
and
un
rented
forever.
You
know
off
the
market
unit,
I
guess
that
could
come
on,
but
mostly
owner
move
in
or
other
things
or
if
an
owner
moved
out
and.
A
Even
though
we're
we're
not
I
mean
they
can
apply
for
an
exemption,
but
otherwise
we're
still
counting
this
unit
when
we're
billing
until
they
apply
for
an
exemption
for
an
owner
occupied
unit,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
was
just
going
to
mention
is
that
the
the
biggest
decrease
in
numbers
is
if
a
property
is
demolished,
but
that's
not
as
common
these
things.
G
So
so
we
don't
have
ghost
properties
in
the
spreadsheet.
Okay,
yeah
like
Committee,
Member,
Cox
I,
also
don't
like
the
two-month
discount
idea
and
it
reading
this.
It
still
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
that
you
wouldn't
just
add
in
the
light
item
for
the
previous
the
accrued
amount
and
then
apply
the
four
percent
to
the
unpaid
balance,
including
the
unpaid
balance
for
previous
years.
I
I
can't
imagine
a
system
that
can't
handle
that
it's
it
boggles
the
mind
as
an
engineer
who's.
Doing
this
that's
a
comment.
It's
not
a
question.
B
Committee
Member
Ma.
No,
oh
I'd
like
to
speak
first
I'm,
not
ready
for
emotion
yet
so
my
thoughts
about
well
I
I
have
a
lower
level
of
frustration
or
imbalance.
My
first
I
do
have
frustration
about
that.
The
escalation
doesn't
continue
into
the
next
year.
However,
balancing
that
and
far
outweighing
it
is
you
need
to
get
this
done,
because
we'd
be
in
bad
shape
and
we'd
have
really
bad
press,
not
to
mention
bad
finances
if
we
aren't
collecting
fees.
B
So
if
this
is
what
it
takes,
we
can
come
back
to
making
it
work
better
in
the
future.
But
if
we
need
to,
you
know,
make
a
significant
change
in
our
billing
process
and
in
order
to
you
know,
improve
things
because
I'm
happy
to
hear
improved
efficiency
for
staff
and
well,
there
were
questions
about.
Could
this
possibly
be
a
worse
experience,
there's
also
the
possibility.
B
This
may
be
a
better
experience
for
landlords
to
have
it
all
in
one
place,
which
is
also
a
good
thing,
and
so
I
am
going
to
be
supporting
the
staff
recommendation
to
out
of
the
sense
of
do
whatever
you
need
to
do,
because
time
is
short
and
we
can
make
it
better
later,
but
we
don't
need
it
better.
We
don't
need
it
perfect
or
as
pure
right
now.
We
just
need
it
done
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
staff
recommendation,
I'm
ready
for
a
motion,
no
I.
Just
another
comment:
Committee
Member,
Cox,
I.
F
B
D
May
remember
roses:
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
really
what
we're
trying
to
prevent
here
is
the
loss
of
more
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
more
other
things
that
we
need
to
deal
with,
especially
like
the
Rob.
So
if
we
can
get
this
item
done
tonight
so
that
our
staff
can
focus
on
rubs,
that
is
my
comment,
because
I
think
the
community
has
been
waiting
for
this
for
a
long
time
and
I,
don't
think
they
could
wait
another
month.
So
that's
my
comment
on
this
item
holiday,
I.
D
Think
that
I'll.
C
Do
it
yeah
I,
move
staff
recommendation,
do
I
have
to
say
anything
more.
Is
that
enough?
Okay,
I
moved
to
a
man's
here,
Safari
regulations,
chapter
12:
she
plays
a
10-month
cap
on
the
assessment
of
late
charges
for
failure
to
time
we
pay
annual
rental
housing
fees
and
on
the
assessment
of
late
fees
for
failure,
timely
registered
recovered
units
and
and
then
mhrso
regulation,
chapter
12
to
place
a
10-month
cap
on
the
assessment
of
late
charges,
for
failure
to
timely
pay,
an
annual
space
rental
fees
and
on
the
assessment
of
late
fees.
G
B
E
A
B
N
J
E
A
Next
slide,
I
will
start
with
going
over
our
upcoming
workshops
and
the
housing
eviction.
Health
Center
dates.
A
A
So
we
are
having
some
hybrid
landlord
workshops
now
that
are
you're
going
to
be
starting
to
see
in
our
schedule.
So
the
first
one
here
is
October
5th
and
it's
at
2
p.m,
during
working
hours
for
our
landlords
and
property
managers
and
the
topic
will
be
how
to
lawfully
increase
rent
we're
going
to
do
this,
both
online
and
in
person
at
our
office,
298,
Escuela
and
then
after
you'll
see
we
have
our
next
Workshop
October
12th.
A
That
one
is
not
at
2PM,
sorry
that
I
think
6
30
and
it
is
healthy
and
safe
housing.
This
is
open
to
all,
and
it's
also
going
to
be
virtual,
sorry,
hybrid
virtual
and
at
our
office
at
298,
Escuela
and
then
finally
to
round
out
the
month
of
October.
We
have
October
19th.
This
one
is
at
2PM
and
it's
landlord
focused
and
we'll
be
going
over
rent
increases
and
petitions,
and
that
will
also
be
hybrid.
A
Right
and
of
course,
we
like
to
highlight
our
housing
and
eviction
help
center
that
we
hold
every
first
and
third
Thursday.
We
are
on
the
second
floor
program
room
at
the
Mountain
View
Public
Library.
Our
hours
continue
to
be
from
6
to
8
p.m,
and
we
have
seen
some
good
success
at
this
later
date
when
people
are
getting
off
of
work
and
they're
able
to
come
into
the
library
instead
of
during
working
hours.
A
These
continue
also
to
be
hybrid,
so
you
can
join
in
person
as
a
walk-in
or
you
can
join
us
on
Zoom
and
we
provide
many
different
programs,
such
as
help
with
anything
related
to
rent
stabilization,
affordable
housing,
sign
ups.
We
have
CSA
in
person
with
us
there
at
The,
Help
Center,
and
they
can
help
people
with
rental
assistance
and
food
assistance.
Things
like
that,
and
we
also
have
pluspa
on
Zoom
at
The
Help
Center.
N
N
Staff
would
like
to
also
note
that,
beginning
October
5th,
we
will
have
a
landlord
focused
housing
help
center
at
298
Escuela
from
one
to
three
that
first
Workshop
that
Andrea
mentioned
on
the
5th
is
part
of
that.
Where
now
landlords
can
come
to
a
help,
center
specifically
focused
to
assist
them.
So
again,
that's
going
to
be
on
the
third
and
the
first
and
third
Thursday
of
every
month
at
our
offices
in
298
Escuela,
and
it
will
be
from
one
to
three.
N
We
will
have
workshops
and
staff
will
be
available
to
assist
Property
Owners
as
needed.
C
C
N
Oh
you're,
talking
specifically
about
the
valuation,
how
hearing
officers,
value
habitability,
concerns
and
petitions?
Yes,
so
that
is
something
that
the
rhc
can
consider
addressing
in
the
future
right
now,
hearing
officers
have
full
discretion
on
how
habitability
concerns
are
valued
in
the
petition
decisions
it
has
been
brought
to.
The
rhc
has
requested
in
the
past
that
staff,
eventually
at
some
point
in
the
future,
bring
a
potential
evaluation
scale
for
consideration
and
to
increase
consistency
across
petitions,
but
that
is
a
challenging
piece
of
policy
for
for
staff.
F
M
B
November
very
good,
so
is:
are
there
any
expected
appeals
in
our
October
16
meeting?
Okay?
Yes,
there.
J
Are
sorry
we
have
the
postponed
appeal
they're
supposed
to
be
two
tonight
and
one
was
postponed
because
for
religious
reasons,
so
there
is
an
appeal.
Yes,.
B
Okay,
so
we
will
have
a
full
agenda
at
our
next
meeting
with
rubs
and
an
appeal
yay
how
it
goes.
Okay,
I
think
we're
close
to
adjournment.
Is
there
any
anything
else
we
need
to
discuss
or
ask
about
before?
We
adjourn,
oh,
no,
never
mind
and
I.
Don't
need
emotion
to
adjourn.
I
just
need
to
record
the
time.