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A
B
C
C
D
E
D
D
Okay,
we
move
on
to
public
comment.
We
have
two
tonight,
please
come
forward
when
your
name
is
called
give
your
name
and
address,
and
you'll
have
five
minutes
to
speak
on
your
topic.
Michael
stack,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
towsley
tanya
vanderveen.
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Okay,
you
want
to
do
it
that
way.
This
is
added
something
we
do
every
year
and
it's
for
our
insurance
for
the
city.
At
this
time,
we
need
to
move
it
on
to
the
special
agenda,
get
started
on
it,
so
I'm
motioned
to
add
ordinance,
46
2019
to
tonight's
special
agenda
with
emergency
language
and
looking
to
waive
the
second
and
third
readings
I'll.
E
I
just
want
to
say
if
I
would
for
the
record,
we
got
that
the
information
from
wickard
insurance
just
a
day
or
two
before
we
gave
it
to
you
guys.
So
it's
not
like
we
were
sitting
on
it
so,
but
we
would
ask
that
readings,
get
away
and
gets
passed.
Okay,.
G
H
H
I
I
D
Any
further
discussions
or
comments
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
to
add
ordinance,
number
46
2019
to
this
special
meeting
for
its
first
reading
with
claire
call
the
role
please.
D
D
C
Comments,
this
was
just
the
585
project
to
make
it
safe,
and
it
sounds
to
me
like
there's,
not
a
lot
of
liability
to
this
for
the
city
as
far
as
financially,
unless
something
would
be
deemed
unnecessary
and
we'd
bear
a
hundred
percent
of
the
cost
of
the
unnecessary,
which
I
doubt
that
that's
going
to
happen.
E
C
E
Like
to
also
state,
though,
that
odot
did
have
a
public
meeting
up
at
the
community
center
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
it
was
open
to
the
public,
had
open
discussion
and
dialogue
to
many
residents,
as
well
as
people
that
outside
the
area
that
came
with
with
some
interest,
looking
at
the
project
to
see
what
exactly
was
going
to
happen.
Okay,
I.
D
Do
know
for
years.
J
D
G
K
You
have
very
limited
input
now
they
did
take
some
of
our
public
safety
concerns
regarding
the
closure
and
and
and
they
said
that
they
would
implement
some
of
those
concerns.
So,
while
again,
it's
not
the
perfect
solution,
it's
a
solution
that
that
I
am
optimistic
that
it'll
work
to
be
successful.
Just.
L
D
K
You
know
I
I
was
hopeful
that
it
was
going
to
happen
this
summer,
but
I'm
not
certain
with
the
budget
uncertainty,
even
though,
with
the
increase
in
gas
tax,
I'm
not
sure
that,
because
it
wasn't
the
18
cents
that
they
wanted.
If
this
is
one
of
the
projects
that
will
be
funded
this
year
or
next
year,.
G
When
I
was
speaking
to
the
engineer
from
odot,
I
kind
of
questioned
with
the
the
r
cut
the
expense
of
adding
lanes,
and
why
couldn't
you
just
put
a
light
in
and
his
claim
was,
if
they
put
a
light
in
they'd,
have
to
put
in
turning
lanes
anyhow
and
the
price
would
almost
be
a
wash.
So
just
for
public
information.
I
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Yeah.
Yes,
we
have
three
non-bargaining
salary
rate
changes
that
we
will
be
retroactive.
First
of
the
year
we
have
the
clerk
of
counsel
kerry.
When
she
first
came
in
here,
she
didn't
have
her
cmc
certification.
I
I
We
have
administrative
assistant,
shannon
which
would
be
taking
on
more
responsibility
with
the
boards
and
commissions
and
her
salary
will
go
up
to
48
000
and
we
created
a
new
position
for
larry
hess.
The
service
department
manager
for
management
of
the
service
department
and
his
new
salary
will
be
61
000..
So
I
guess
is
there.
I
Okay
with
that,
I'd
like
to
add
this
to
tonight's
special
meeting
for
its
first
reading,
only
second
half.
D
A
Yes,
mr
president,
I'd
just
like
to
add
that
the
administrative
assistant
has
been
actually
taking
on
more
duties
at
the
rate
she's
been
paid
since
even
last
year,
so
she's
been
taking
care
of
all
the
boards
and
commissions
for
months
now.
As
far
as
doing
their
minutes.
F
A
D
Moving
on
to
letter
d,
ordinance
number
49
2019,
mr
gainer.
J
Yes,
this
concerns
four
parcels
to
be
re-zoned
from
different
zoning.
Two,
I
won
I'd
like
to
ask
the
motion
to
move
this
to
tonight's
special
meeting
for
first
reading,
only
I'll
second,
that.
D
G
I
personally
a
lot
of
folks
here
are
here
for
this
specific
reason,
I
think
it's
a
mistake
by
council
to
move
this
to
a
special
meeting
tonight,
because
it
takes
away
one
more
meeting
that
these
people
could
hear
their
voices.
G
M
M
I
built
my
house
with
no
industry
now
you're
bringing
industry
to
me.
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
protect
the
residents
right
now?
You
call
for
100
feet.
I'm
asking
for
200
feet
from
property
line
to
a
20-foot,
high
earth
and
mile
with
shrubbery
and
grass,
and
then
at
least
100
feet
from
there
to
the
building.
M
A
M
N
Thank
you
for
hearing
me,
mr
president,
I'm
here
today
to
voice
my
concern
over
this.
Many
of
you
have
listened
to
me
speak
about
it
at
the
previous
planning
that
I
attended
did
a
little
bit
of
homework.
So
forgive
me
as
some
of
my
numbers
are
wrong,
but
I
I
have
some
statements
to
make
and
some
questions
to
ask.
N
In
2018,
there
were
132
ordinances
presented
to
this
council
for
passage.
110
of
those
were
declared
emergencies
in
2019.
Thus
far,
there
have
been
22
applications
to
rezone
property
in
the
city
of
norton,
all
of
which
have
been
afforded
three
public
hearings
along
with
those
statistics,
I'm
asking.
Why
is
this
being
declared
an
emergency?
N
N
I
respectfully
ask
you,
mr
president,
along
with
other
council
members,
if
you
believe
that
this
is
the
best
way
to
serve
the
residents
of
norton.
It
is
my
contention
as
well
that,
as
others
sitting
here
tonight
that
declaring
an
emergency
when
there
is
not
one
is
nothing
more
than
the
council's
way
to
push
their
agenda
through
and
avoiding
having
to
listen
to
what
the
public
has
to
say
on
the
matter.
N
N
N
N
I
showed
up
again
on
3
21
19
to
further
inquire
on
the
matter,
only
to
be
told
that
I
could
not
speak
because
city
the
city
had
made
a
mistake
and
was
not
actually
required
to
notify
any
of
us
by
letter.
Even
though
I
received
one
stating
that
I
could
appear
to
voice
my
opinion
for
or
against
the
matter,
I
was
told
that
I
could
not
speak
and
that,
quite
frankly,
that
it's
said
enough
already
your
own
agenda.
L
N
N
G
O
D
O
O
D
D
O
J
O
D
D
All
right
and
I
did
we
have
a
motion
in
a.
D
All
right,
so
we
have
an
amended
motion
and
second,
to
place
ordinance
49
2019
for
its
first
reading
on
the
next
regular
council
meeting,
which
will
be
next
week.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
or
comments
regarding
the
legislation.
G
Like
she
does
too,
but
is
it
my
understanding
of
some
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
will
probably
be
answered
in
the
next
subject
matter:
yeah.
D
D
F
D
D
Okay
letter
e
purchase,
metroparks
property,
ms
whipkey
ordinance,
number
50,
2019.
A
Okay
motion
first
and
then
talk
okay.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
motion
to
move
ordinance,
number
50
2019
to
tonight's
special
meeting
for
first
reading.
Only.
D
H
D
A
Whipkey,
this
is
proposing
that
the
city
pay
1
million
260
thousand
dollars
for
137.48
acres,
and
this
would
be
the
property
that
you
had
inquired
about.
Mr
stack,
the
park
property.
So,
yes,
we
are
looking
to
purchase
that
at
this
time,.
D
D
N
This
too,
is
being
declared
as
an
emergency,
and
I'm
wondering
why
there's
no
emergency
in
my
mind
and
all
again
this
allows
you
to
do-
is
to
push
this
through
without
any
discussion
regarding
our
concerns
over
this
project
and
I'll.
Add
to
that
that,
at
the
previous
meetings
that
I
have
attended
and
spoken
at
and
unfortunately,
council
members,
most
of
you
were
not
there,
I
I
did
voice
along
with
mr
stackvoice
and
other
members
that
are
sitting
here
tonight,
voice
that
we
are
not
opposed
to
prosperity
coming
to
the
city
of
norton.
N
We
are
just
looking
to
be
protected
so
that
our
property
is
protected,
and
so
I
don't
understand
why
this
is
this
needs
to
be
an
emergency.
I
I
need
some
help,
understanding
why
that
is
the
case,
especially
since
you
just
voted
to
move
the
first
reading
of
the
rezoning
to
the
first
to
next
week's
council.
A
The
rezoning
is
different
from
making
a
purchase,
we
could
have
emergency
language
here.
Emergency
language
does
not
mean
it
won't,
go
three
readings
to
where
you
wouldn't
have
the
opportunity
to
talk,
but.
L
O
Unless
you
can
really
clarify
that
so
there's
two
separate
requirements
under
charter
and
ohio
law.
The
first
is
that
an
ordinance
has
to
be
read
on
three
separate
occasions
unless
it's
unless
there's
a
motion
from
counsel-
and
that's
just
that's
more
of
a
procedural
matter
for
counsel,
so
they
can
choose
to
not
read
an
ordinance
three
times.
If
and
then.
The
second
requirement
is
an
emergency
clause.
O
The
emergency
clause
allows
the
ordinance
to
go
into
immediate
effect,
they're
separate
requirements
that
they
get
confused
a
lot,
but
council
can
pass
three
readings
with
emergency
without
emergency
they
can
go
one
reading
with
emergency
without
emergency
really
there
are
independent
requirements,
but
I
think
the
intention
is
to
only
do
the
first
reading
of
this
ordinance
tonight.
Correct.
D
The
emergency
language
in
this
is
because,
once
the
at
least
in
my
mind,
I
can't
speak
for
everybody
else,
but
we
want
to
effectuate
the
sale
once
the
ordinance
is
passed.
We
want
to
move
the
sale
along
and
effectuate
the
sales
as
soon
as
possible.
A
N
N
A
That's
we
have
the
contract
with
the
parks
is
actually
in
the
packet
for
everybody
to
read
and
to
be
perfectly
blunt
about
it,
us
purchasing
that
property
gives
us
the
ability
to
help
you.
People
have
some
of
the
things
that
you
want
or
get
closer
to
it
than
if
we
just
let
someone
else
come
and
purchase
it,
and
they
could
literally
do
basically,
whatever
the
code
allows
them
to
do.
But.
O
Explain
that
yeah
the
zoning
is
the
zoning
zoning
code
applies
city-wide.
What
we
talked
about
was
some
of
the
buffering
issues,
some
of
the
the
things
you're
talking
about
mounting,
buffering
landscaping,
light
pollution,
noise
pollution.
Those
are
issues
that
are
addressed
in
the
site
plan
goes
before
plan.
Commission
council
has
the
ability
to
restrict
by
either
deed
or
easement,
there's
there's
a
number
of
things
that
can
be
done
any
sale
contract.
If
the
city
were
to
sell
the
property
could
specify
those
requirements.
O
N
O
Selling
piece,
I'm
sorry
the
selling
piece,
so
the
zoning,
the
zoning
code
is
what
it
is.
It's
not
going
to
be
varied.
So
when
the
property
gets
rezoned,
there's
a
set
of
requirements
that
apply
to
the
property,
I
think
what
you're
asking
for
is
in
addition
to
what
those
requirements
are
for
developing
the
property.
You
want
some
additional
protections
like
mounting
setback,
requirements
and
landscaping
that
is
done
by
development
agreement,
either
the
sale
agreement
of
the
property,
a
development
agreement,
an
easement
that
the
city
can
record
on
the
property
to
restrict
development
in
certain
areas.
O
G
And
this
is
for
the
administration.
Do
we
have
many
commitments
to
this
property
because
the
risk
is
a
is
a
big
consideration
in
my
mind,.
N
P
D
D
Yes,
letter
f
ordinance,
number
51,
ms
whipkey.
A
A
G
O
O
Sure
so
the
ordinance,
the
idea
is:
there's
the
1.26
million
dollar
purchase
price.
That's
in
the
purchase
contract,
the
the
thought
would
be
for
the
city
to
pay
for
that
proportion
with
cash
on
hand,
and
then
the
balance
of
that
would
be
borrowed.
Through
this
note,
what
the
note
is
when,
when
a
city
government
borrows
in
ohio,
they
typically
do
in
one
of
two
ways.
One
is
a
note
which
is
a
short
term
borrowing
usually
up
to
a
year,
and
the
second
is
a
bond
which
is
a
long
term
borrowing
it's
the
same.
O
So
what
the
note
is
is
allows
you
typically
a
government
goes
to
a
note
when
they
don't
have
fixed
costs
for
a
project
yet
so,
for
example,
in
this
project
up
to
800
000
finance
to
purchase
if
we
were
to
sell
property
in
the
future,
we'd
have
money
that
we'd
be
able
to
apply
to
pay
off
the
note,
so
that
note
will
go
for
one
year.
Maturity
so
say
it's
april,
30th,
I'm
sorry
bad
date
may
30th.
O
When
you
issue
the
note,
may
30th
2020
that
note
comes
due:
it'll
have
a
pretty
low
rate
of
interest.
Usually
it's
around.
I
would
say
around
two
and
a
half
percent
right
now.
For
a
one
year
note,
and
when
that
note
comes
due,
you
either
refinance
it
and
borrow
rebar
the
money
and
at
a
different
interest
rate,
or
you
can
pay
a
portion
of
it
down.
So
the
thought
would
be
because
he's
purchasing
his
land.
G
Okay,
maybe
you
can
help
me
too
section:
10,
no
section
11,
I'm
sorry,
letter
c.
E
G
O
Yeah,
so
all
all
debt-
that's
borrowed
on
a
general
obligation
basis,
which
is
the
full
faith
and
credit
of
the
city
is
theoretically
debt
that
is
borrowed
within
what
they
call
the
10
ml
limitation.
This
is
we're
getting
like
way
out
in
bottom
lawyer,
land,
but
all
property
in
ohio
is
subject
to
a
limitation
of
it.
It
can't
have
more
than
10
mills
million
mill
being
the
rate
of
property
tax
levy
applied
to
the
property.
O
So
this
is
saying,
while
this
note's
outstanding,
that
that
no
that
note-
let's
say
the
city
weren't
going
to
come
due,
a
note
holder
can
or
wouldn't
pay
when
it
comes
due.
A
note
holder
can
go
to
court
and
say
court.
You
need
to
levy
a
property
tax
against
the
properties
in
norton
to
pay
that
service.
So
it's
our
it's
enforcing
our
covenant
to
repay
this
right.
This
debt-
and
I
know
the
language-
is
not
right.
L
O
It's
it's.
If
you
want
to
answer.
H
O
P
O
Mr
messner
will
go:
we
have
a
variety
of
banks.
We've
worked
with
historically
huntington
national
bank
key
bank
fifth
third
bank.
These
are
all
banks
that
buy
municipal
debt,
there's
other
national
firms
that
do
it
and
he'll
go
and
collect
the
best
interest
rate
from
those
banks
and
they'll,
say
hey.
I
need
a
note
for
a
hundred
thousand.
It's
done
all
the
time.
This
way
and
they'll
come
back
with
bids
on
the
lowest
interest
rate.
H
Sorry,
you
don't
have
an
interest
rate.
I've
got
one,
that's
about
three
percent,
but
it
just
won
I'll,
probably
get
three
or
four
more
bids
all
right.
Thank
you.
N
N
N
D
D
For
the
emergency
language
is
to
effectuate
and
complete
the
contract
and
be
able
to
put
signatures
on
contract
the
emergency
language,
for
the
note
would
be
so
that
he
has
the
legislation
in
place
so
that
he
can
go
out
to
the
banks
and
say:
look.
I
have
a
piece
of
legislation
now
we
want
to
finalize
this.
He
can't
really
finalize
anything
until
this
council
passes
the
legislation
they
can't
do
anything
until
council
approves
this.
If
council
approves
this,
I.
N
Understand
that,
but
from
my
perspective
I
feel
like
it's
kind
of
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse,
because
you're
asking
to
be
able
to
finalize
the
purchase,
but
you
don't
have
everything
in
place
yet
to
finalize
the
purchase.
So
why
not
just
provide
authorization
to
give
him
permission
to
secure
the
money
to
finalize
the
purchase?
Well,.
N
O
D
O
N
N
So,
along
with
that
and
again
I'm
just
you
know,
learning
about
local
legislation
and
how
the
rules
work.
I
forgot
my
thought:
can
you
repeat
your
comment
from
mr
markey.
O
Yeah
the
the
purchase
agreement
and
the
note
they
will
they'll
be
done
simultaneously
and
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
point
where
both
legislation,
if
they
determine
to
pass
them,
we'll
be
ready
to
we'll
have
a
lender
lined
up
in
an
interest
rate
lined
up
it's
just
a
little
too
early
in
the
process.
To
have
mr
messner,
have
those
interest
rates
they're
only
good
for
a
certain
amount
of
time,
so.
N
Q
O
Yeah,
so
it's
up
to
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
the
note
can
be
up
to
eight
percent
as
it's
less
than
eight
percent
and
that's
permitted
under
the
ordinance.
But
obviously
the
note
or
note
rate's
not
going
to
be
eight
percent.
So
we'll
have
those
we'll
have
those
for
the
next
council
meeting.
D
H
Q
Aside
from
that,
this
does
affect
the
property
taxes
and,
in
general,
the
taxes
that
are
money,
because
I
have
businesses
that
own
property
in
norton
and
are
impacted
by
these
tax
rates
and
all
this
funding
that
goes
to
purchases
like
this.
So
as
a
concerned
business
owner,
I
feel
that
the
council
should
be
very.
Q
They
should
consider
the
liability
that
they're
taking
on
with
not
having
a
purchaser,
which
is
what
you've
made
clear
to
us,
that
there
is
no
purchase
agreement.
There
is
no
purchaser
in
the
wings
that
you're
possibly
going
to
incur
the
expenses
which
I
I
apologize.
If
I
missed
it,
I
was
stuck
at
work
late.
This
is
our
busy
season,
but
you're
talking
a
property
that
has
the
possibility
of
some
actual
some
land
issues
that
could
make
it
possibly
unbuildable.
I
I
Q
Okay
and
I'm
asking
for
it,
but
no
one
has
that
answer:
I'm
not
trying
to
be
rude
or
pumped
I'm
just.
These
are
things
that
I
do
with
our
business
when
we
make
major
land
purpose
purchases,
because
I
will
tell
you
that
whoever
selling
it
wants
it
to
look
the
best
that
it
can.
So
I'm
asking
is
a
citizen
and
a
business
owner
in
town
that
our
tax
dollars
are
going
to
be
used
for
this,
how
many
acres
are
actually
buildable
and
how
many
are
not?
I.
A
Q
Podium,
so
if
we
could
for
the
next
reading,
you
have
documentation
and
also
at
that
point
will
you
have
started
to
get
bids
to
know
percentage
rates
of
what
your
interest
I'm.
E
Q
L
Q
Concerns
known
I'm,
my
concern
is
that
is
the
property
buildable,
and
is
it
a
good
investment
for
the
community
to
purchase
a
piece
of
property?
Can
it
really
can
it
really
serve
the
purpose
that
the
community
is
hoping
that
it
will
or
will
these
other
properties
like?
Are
we
making
a
purchase
assuming
that
maybe
down
the
line,
we
might
be
able
to
buy
this
other
piece
of
property
that.
G
I'd
like
to
add
one
thing:
real,
quick.
Something
was
said
by
mr
messner
that,
because
I
I
understand
how
this
works,
there's
a
lot
of
confusion.
G
He
said
there
would
be
six
weeks,
but
if
we
do
a
reading
tonight,
there's
actually
only
I
think
three
weeks,
because
that
first
reading
will
be
tonight
and
then
next
week
will
be
the
second
and
then
skip
two
weeks.
So
just
for
clarity,
I
don't
want
you
to
come
back
and
say:
wait
a
minute
five
weeks.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
you
don't
think
someone
was
trying
to
mislead
you,
okay,
so
thank.
I
I
A
D
G
Thank
you,
mr
president.
This
is
something
the
administration
has
been
working
on
for
quite
a
while
now.
Actually,
this
would
be
an
agreement
with
the
with
the
city
of
barberton
to
jail,
norton's
prisoners
for
sixteen
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
three
dollars
per
year
and
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
that's
less
what
we've
already
put
in.
O
G
D
D
D
Yes,
letter
h,
small
wireless
facilities,
mr
gainer,
yes,.
J
J
This
is
something
that
needs
to
be
done
almost
immediately,
because
justin
did
you
come
up
with
the
date
on
that
or.
O
O
I
just
didn't
get
to
it
in
time,
so
they
are
allowing
cities
that
pass
legislation
essentially
by
tonight
tax
day,
happy
every
day
for
us
that
if
you
have
reasonable
design
guidelines
in
place
as
of
tonight,
which
is
tonight,
then
those
are
allowed
to
stay
in
place.
If
you
don't
have
design
guidelines
in
by
tonight,
then
moving
forward,
you
can't
put
new
design
guidelines,
so
this
ordinance
you
have
before
you
is
an
ordinance
that
a
number
of
communities
have
adopted
for
these
small
cell
wireless
facilities.
O
You
know-
and
we
never
want
to
be
the
test
case
for
legal
challenges.
So
to
my
knowledge,
these
have
not
been
challenged
in
court,
but
a
number
of
communities
last
year
in
particular
when
the
state
of
ohio
sort
of
tried
to
preempt
everybody
put
these
types
of
regulations
in
place.
So
this
is
mild
on
that.
O
D
J
J
D
With
emergency
language-
yes,
I
think
it's
in
there
is
that
me,
that's
you
me.
D
F
I
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Yes,
our
our
part-time
police
officers
are
lower
paid
than
other
communities,
and
I
think
it
was
time
for
the
job
they
do
to
increase
their
hourly
salary.
It's
kind
of
hard.
I
I
was
talking
to
chief
today
to
try
to
get
someone
in
there
as
a
part-time
policeman
when
other
communities
are
paying
just
a
little
bit
more
and
it's
and
the
proposed
wages
I
was
we
were
asking
for
if,
if
it
was
less
than
one
year,
complete
service
they'd
make
18.66
an
hour
after
one
year,
it'd
be
20.15
an
hour
after
10
years,
21.77
cents
an
hour
and
after
15
years
have
completed
service
they'd
make
23.51,
and
this
would
be
retroactive
as
the
first
of
the
year.
I
D
D
All
right
hearing
none,
then,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.
Let's.
F
D
Here
under
new
business
committee
of
the
whole,
is
there
anything
to
come
before
committee
of
the
whole
moving
on
to
introduction
of
new
legislation,
ordinance
46
2019,
ms
whippke.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
if
you
read
it
for
me,
please.
D
A
D
D
D
J
C
D
A
F
G
G
J
Yes,
I
like
to
offer
53
2019
for
its
first
reading
and
wave
the
second
and
third.
D
D
J
J
D
F
I
A
A
I
was
under
the
impression
you
needed
to
get
this
done,
so
you
could
get
the
books
caught
up.
Mr
towsley,
last
time
we
had
it
before
she
didn't
want
to
do
it
because
of
exhibit
a
right.